Emo Community Thread

[Matt?]

i don't feel that great about FDR either though

[bottlerocket]

Republicans...Democrats...two sides of the same coin.

IT'S ALL THERE TO CONTROL YOU.

Waking Life ++

[cobert]

It's End Of A Year.

Oh. You should probably read Less Than Zero because its great.

Even though I like Obama, I feel Clintons winning this one.

Socialism ftw though

This grilled cheese Im eating is amazing.

[bottlerocket]

Obama > Clinton

Clinton keeps changing her mind and isn't that great of a public speaker. Obama is sincere, legit, and isn't a flip-flopper.

I'd be content with Hilary, though. I can deal with her.

All I can say is I hope the Dems win this election...

If another Republican as bad as Bush gets in office again, seriously, I will transfer to a school out of the country and live there.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Isn't there speculation that Al Gore will run again. I hope John Kerry doesn't run again.

[bottlerocket]

Al Gore would be alright.

Kerry...meh. =/

[whiteminority]

As long as some social conservative dick wad doesn't win I'm chill.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Ben hates gays and minorities.

[whiteminority]

You bet your spic ***.

[Matt?]

hi



MY DOG JUST TYPED THAT

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

My dog got his balls removed 3 days ago.

[whiteminority]

Matt is your dog a genius?

[RCVA]

Oh. You should probably read Less Than Zero because its great.
Cool i will.

[Matt?]

Matt is your dog a genius?

i helped

[whiteminority]

Matt it's rather obvious that your dog's intellect is far in excess of your own so I would much rather speak with it than yourself.

[Matt?]

he's not here at the moment unfortunately :(

[cobert]

In these 24 hours we stretched into
a room filled with heart and soul
This is the way
Step inside and march in the procession of empty hearts
ISOLAAAAATION!!!!

Guys how much does Thursday rule?

[Matt?]

not as much as assfactor 4

[symmetrix]

i fell in love with a webcam girl what do i do :(

[Matt?]

pay the five dollar monthly fee and jack off and pity yourself.

[symmetrix]

its $2 a min i cant afford that i love her though and i cant live without her any longer

[Matt?]

kill yourself i guess considering your life is f'ucked

or

find her email and send her praise and joy

[team_racket]

hahaha

[symmetrix]

kill yourself i guess considering your life is f'ucked

or

find her email and send her praise and joy

i tryed to get all the info i could but i didnt get much because she goes by "cunilingus494" or something like that. i discovered you have to be a "top member" get get 1 email a day from her

[whiteminority]

Jump off a bridge.

Cobabe you know that Thursday rule.

HEART IN A BLENDER
WATCH IT BE GROUND INTO A BEAUTIFUL OBLIVION
RENDEZVOUS THEN I'M THROUGH WITH YOU

Guys how much does Eve 6 rule?

[DFelon204409]

Why would you not vote for Hilary?

If a Republican wins in 08, this country is screwed.

Plus, she's married to one of the best presidents in US history.

Because I want to restart and have a new family in the white house, ya know?

Untrue. Most of us here are white so being screwed applies to us differently.

I highly doubt this statement. He's so lucky that whole impeachment thing was at the end of his stay. Otherwise he wouldn't have established all of his programs. In general, I feel like just because we've been sandwiched by the Bushes for so long that people like romanticize Clinton's value as being a not terrible president. He's still a terrible person.

[whiteminority]

As long as this dude is not elected I'm happy: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070120/ap_on_el_pr/brownback2008

[Matt?]

Because I want to restart and have a new family in the white house, ya know?

Untrue. Most of us here are white so being screwed applies to us differently.

I highly doubt this statement. He's so lucky that whole impeachment thing was at the end of his stay. Otherwise he wouldn't have established all of his programs. In general, I feel like just because we've been sandwiched by the Bushes for so long that people like romanticize Clinton's value as being a not terrible president. He's still a terrible person.

so everyone that has an affair is a terrible person?

[whiteminority]

I'm gonna go with Dfel on this one, Clinton was a good president, but yeah he was a complete misogynistic womanizer.

[cobert]

Jump off a bridge.

Cobabe you know that Thursday rule.

HEART IN A BLENDER
WATCH IT BE GROUND INTO A BEAUTIFUL OBLIVION
RENDEZVOUS THEN I'M THROUGH WITH YOU

Guys how much does Eve 6 rule?

How about this one:

HERES TO THE NIGHTS WE FELT ALIVE
HERES TO THE TEARS YOU KNEW YOU'D CRY

[SimonCore]

i fell in love with a webcam girl what do i do :(

I liked a girl I was talking to on the 'ol cam once, then I met her and turned out to be the worst decision ever:amaze:


Yes she turned out to be hideous in reality!

[AIRIC]

Some dude in Korea killed himself after meeting a girl he fell in love with on the internet.

[DaveToopes]

I met Skrunnch on the internet.

[SimonCore]

The internet is responsible for a fair few suicides. Especailly in online games I.E runescape etc. I also heard that someone actually had to go to rehab so they could stop playing World of warcraft. Abit extreme IMO

[lunchforthesky]

Compared with UK politics both the Dems and the Republicans are pretty right wing, futher right than the Conservatives.

[srt-4]

there is almost zero chance of me ever voting for hillary clinton. this rules: http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/crossed.asp

and you can't put bush 41 and 43 into the same category. 41 was a decorated world war II aviator, ambassador to the un, congressman, vice president, and head of the cia. he focused on a multilateral approach to foreign policy and was willing to suffer the political costs of raising taxes to fight a deficit.

i wish lieberman would run and win in 08. too bad he can't get past the far left-dominated democratic primaries.

[Matt?]

writing two cool guitar parts in one day apreesh

also the crossed fingers thing does rule.

[cobert]

I saw that crossed fingers thing before, its pretty funny.

I wrote 4 near-complete sets of lyrics yesterday, mostly about how much of a ****ing ghetto this place is.

[DFelon204409]

so everyone that has an affair is a terrible person?

Well ya, but he also lied pretty bad too. But mostly the whole affair thing.

[bottlerocket]

i fell in love with a webcam girl what do i do :(

It's cool. I fell in love with Sam from Garden State (Natalie Portman's character).

Honestly, if I could marry her, I would.

[The Great Decay]

It's cool. I fell in love with Sam from Garden State (Natalie Portman's character).

Honestly, if I could marry her, I would.

Same.

Have you seen her in Closer? Damn.

[bottlerocket]

Yeah.

Natalie Portman is just the perfect woman.

[The Great Decay]

Agreed.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

What about her character in Star Wars Episode's 1-3?

[Burger Bike]

What about her character in Star Wars Episode's 1-3?

Why you gotta mention that? She looks like a phreak, it ruins her looks when you think of star wars. It ruins any girls looks when they are in star wars.
Except that one bitch, with the donuts on her ears. :thumb:
Edit: Princess Leia. Thats the name. Watch her when she's with slug guy.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Yeah hahaha I dig that part so much in episode 6 when she's all chained up and s'hit.

[cbmartinez]

To the Clinton debate, I think a bumper sticker I saw put it best:

"No one lied when Clinton died"

I'd rather have a President who balanced the budget, stimulated the economy and had a decisive foreign policy get a blowjob and lie about it, then some war hungry conservative idiot who lies and puts our troops in harm's way for oil.

[bleep_bloop]

eh, im not really a natalie portman fan

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I don't see whats so bad about getting the blow job. He was the president, why couldn't he get one just like everyone else? He had a stressful job.

[cbmartinez]

The Republicans, the defenders of morality, said that he was a bad bad adulterer.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

I don't see whats so bad about getting the blow job. He was the president, why couldn't he get one just like everyone else? He had a stressful job.

Honestly, I didn't see what was so bad about it, either. I mean, it is his personal life between his wife, him, and Lewinsky. He was still a good president, and him being blown didn't affect that in the slightest.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

The Republicans, the defenders of morality, said that he was a bad bad adulterer.
You do mean the same moral people that hit on teenage boys over emails?

[cbmartinez]

Yes exactly! Getting a blowjob is right on par with ****ing a dude in the butt and beastiality.

[whiteminority]

How about this one:

HERES TO THE NIGHTS WE FELT ALIVE
HERES TO THE TEARS YOU KNEW YOU'D CRY

God that song rules.

[whiteminority]

there is almost zero chance of me ever voting for hillary clinton. this rules: http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/crossed.asp

and you can't put bush 41 and 43 into the same category. 41 was a decorated world war II aviator, ambassador to the un, congressman, vice president, and head of the cia. he focused on a multilateral approach to foreign policy and was willing to suffer the political costs of raising taxes to fight a deficit.

i wish lieberman would run and win in 08. too bad he can't get past the far left-dominated democratic primaries.

Lieberman is a tight *** prick who wants to make Death Metal and video games illegal to minors.

[RetiredAt21]

Lieberman is a tight *** prick who wants to make Death Metal and video games illegal to minors.

LOL, what a f'aggot.

[Matt?]

F'uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck :(

[bottlerocket]

ARGH.

Dammit.

Oh well.

DAAAAAAAAAA BEARS DA BEARS DA BEARS!

[Matt?]

argh i hate both teams

grossman is a dick

[bottlerocket]

DAAAAAA BEARS.

Ditka v. God?

DITKA IS GOD!

[srt-4]

To the Clinton debate, I think a bumper sticker I saw put it best:

"No one lied when Clinton died"

I'd rather have a President who balanced the budget, stimulated the economy and had a decisive foreign policy get a blowjob and lie about it, then some war hungry conservative idiot who lies and puts our troops in harm's way for oil.
come on. thats hyperbole. a decisive foreign policy? he did a pretty decent job, but he was lucky to serve at the time he did. so what should our troops be put in harms way for, if not where our national interest is concerned?
Lieberman is a tight *** prick who wants to make Death Metal and video games illegal to minors.
i didn't know about the death metal. i wouldn't have thought he even knew what death metal was. haha. but i did know about the video games. he isn't just some curmudgeon lashing out at a youth culture he doesn't understand.

there is a book, on killing, that deals with the psychology of killing in warfare. the army conducted a study at the end of world war II that found that 80-85% of infantrymen couldn't even bring themselves to fire at the enemy. thats how high the human resistance to taking the life of another human being is. in vietnam, that percentage went down to 5%. what changed? the training methods. the military started using operant conditioning in its training methods, probably without even realizing it.

after spending 300 pages on the psychology of killing in warfare, he ends the book with a 30 page warning. he warns that the same methods of operant conditioning the military used to turn men into killers on the battlefield are found in video games. however, military training builds in what he calls "stimulus discriminators" that ensure that soldiers only fire under authority. there are no such safeguards in video games. also, violence in movies and television can work as classical conditioning. and the author isn't just some "tight ***." he was in the army for over 20 years, was an airborn ranger, and is now a psychology professor, and that book is recommended reading for the marine corps and required reading at the fbi academy.

[DFelon204409]

To the Clinton debate, I think a bumper sticker I saw put it best:

"No one lied when Clinton died"

I'd rather have a President who balanced the budget, stimulated the economy and had a decisive foreign policy get a blowjob and lie about it, then some war hungry conservative idiot who lies and puts our troops in harm's way for oil.

Me too without a doubt. However, just because I'd prefer one over the other doesn't mean I still don't want the Clintons out of the White House and I don't think Clinton is still a miserable human being. Honestly, cheaters kill me. I feel like if you can't do your significant other the nobility of not just completely betraying them, then you're a worthless vacuous human being.

[DFelon204409]

Why should the American people have to choose between these two ridiculous options?

[bottlerocket]

^ Because we agreed to it.

Actually, the way the government was set up initially is different from today. If the nation was as big as it is now and we were as technologically advanced as we are now, this nation would've been founded totally differently.

[RetiredAt21]

Clinton was awesome. He really kept us on our toes. You never know who he was gonna touch innapropriately next.

[Flagjacket]

I really like George Bush because it seems like he's trying his damndest but he can't get the job done right. Like a perpetual Adam Sandler movie in the President's Office. To me, I feel like he actually beleives the **** that comes out of his mouth, and he's pretty much Alfredo of the White House.

[cobert]

Some kid today in the doors to get into school walked through the metal detector, and because security was pumped up he got asked to take his coat off and walk through again. He didnt want to and started cussing out the police and head of security around here, so one officer and the security guy (probably going to be a principal to here in a few years) both tackled the kid and sprayed him with mace. SHITS OFF THE CHAIN.

Then my mom makes me call my dad so we can get money off of him because my mom likes to turn me into a whore so I can get money for lunch for school next week (not much at all). So i call him and give the phone to my mom and she starts mother****ing him and screaming how much she hates him then hands me the phone (I dont know why) and he just starts being very caustic and laughing after every sentence because Im a joke to him and then we hang up the phone and I guess my mom was mad because he wouldnt stop talking about the oxycontin hes using. SHITS OFF THE CHAIN.

Highlight of my day was hearing that Im playing a tiny performance for the school of a Ray Charles song with the one special education teacher. But not any old special ed teacher, this one happens to be Joe Grushecky, who won a grammy working with Springsteen and whose band should have been very famous but didnt garner the attention to match its critical praise. SHITS OFF THE CHAIN.

[whiteminority]

DAAAAAA BEARS.

Ditka v. God?

DITKA IS GOD!

God Gav I love you.

[whiteminority]

argh i hate both teams

grossman is a dick

Not at all, Bellicheck (sp?) is a dick. He totally ignored Peyton who tryed to shake his hand, and then acted like a solemn bitch at the press conference.

[cobert]

My sisters friend claims that he was at a Denny's one night and Bathtub Shitter was broke down outside and they needed to get to a show so they loaded all of their stuff into his car and then he drove them, but all they could say in english was 'George Bush is asshole' and 'cameltoe'.

[whiteminority]

come on. thats hyperbole. a decisive foreign policy? he did a pretty decent job, but he was lucky to serve at the time he did. so what should our troops be put in harms way for, if not where our national interest is concerned?

i didn't know about the death metal. i wouldn't have thought he even knew what death metal was. haha. but i did know about the video games. he isn't just some curmudgeon lashing out at a youth culture he doesn't understand.

there is a book, on killing, that deals with the psychology of killing in warfare. the army conducted a study at the end of world war II that found that 80-85% of infantrymen couldn't even bring themselves to fire at the enemy. thats how high the human resistance to taking the life of another human being is. in vietnam, that percentage went down to 5%. what changed? the training methods. the military started using operant conditioning in its training methods, probably without even realizing it.

after spending 300 pages on the psychology of killing in warfare, he ends the book with a 30 page warning. he warns that the same methods of operant conditioning the military used to turn men into killers on the battlefield are found in video games. however, military training builds in what he calls "stimulus discriminators" that ensure that soldiers only fire under authority. there are no such safeguards in video games. also, violence in movies and television can work as classical conditioning. and the author isn't just some "tight ***." he was in the army for over 20 years, was an airborn ranger, and is now a psychology professor, and that book is recommended reading for the marine corps and required reading at the fbi academy.

Dude but it's not the government's job to dictate to parents how to raise their children.

Also, he uses Cannibal Corpse as a primary example whenever he talks about death metal believing that the lyrics are not just granted rather tasteless fantasies but actual suggestions. He has said in interviews that it goes against his morals as a person to allow children to listen to such music, which is reason enough to keep him out of office because the point of government is not to establish morals for the citizentry.

Tight ***? Most definitely.

[whiteminority]

Some kid today in the doors to get into school walked through the metal detector, and because security was pumped up he got asked to take his coat off and walk through again. He didnt want to and started cussing out the police and head of security around here, so one officer and the security guy (probably going to be a principal to here in a few years) both tackled the kid and sprayed him with mace. SHITS OFF THE CHAIN.

Then my mom makes me call my dad so we can get money off of him because my mom likes to turn me into a whore so I can get money for lunch for school next week (not much at all). So i call him and give the phone to my mom and she starts mother****ing him and screaming how much she hates him then hands me the phone (I dont know why) and he just starts being very caustic and laughing after every sentence because Im a joke to him and then we hang up the phone and I guess my mom was mad because he wouldnt stop talking about the oxycontin hes using. SHITS OFF THE CHAIN.

Highlight of my day was hearing that Im playing a tiny performance for the school of a Ray Charles song with the one special education teacher. But not any old special ed teacher, this one happens to be Joe Grushecky, who won a grammy working with Springsteen and whose band should have been very famous but didnt garner the attention to match its critical praise. SHITS OFF THE CHAIN.

So SHITS OFF THE CHAIN in the life of Cobabe?

[cobert]

****'s always off the chain. People in general need to forreal forreal ITP.

Steelers have a new head coach.

Bill Maher put it great when he said the government shouldnt legislate taste. He used the censorship of the porn industry at the time as an example, saying he didnt like some of those weird tapes as much as the next guy but he wouldnt try to make laws against them.

[whiteminority]

Cob are you a senior?

[cobert]

Junior.

[cbmartinez]

come on. thats hyperbole. a decisive foreign policy? he did a pretty decent job, but he was lucky to serve at the time he did. so what should our troops be put in harms way for, if not where our national interest is concerned?

Maybe decisive isn't the best word but as far as I'm concerned his actions in Kosovo and the assassination of Sinan Al-Harithi (who was responsible for the bombing of the Cole) proved that he went in, got the job done, and got out. He didn't entangle us in places where we shouldn't be. And I'm sure you're gonna through Black Hawk Down in my face but the Islamist extremists were more formidable than we could have imagined. And don't get me started on the ****ing nerve of the Republicans of saying that Clinton is responsible for 9/11 because he "let Osama and Al Qaeda go" in Somalia, Yemen (The Cole), Kenya, etc. To blame Clinton for this administration's mistakes is ridiculous. When Clinton left office, he had a five point plan for cracking down on global terrorism which included freezing assets to extremist groups like Al Qaeda and assassinating Osama Bind Laden. The plan was ignored by the Bush Administration. And if you really want to start blaming preceding presidents for terrorist attacks, then George Bush Sr. is responsible for the 1993 WTC bombing and pretty the beginning of Al Qaeda's terrorist plots towards America.

[Matt?]

Not at all, Bellicheck (sp?) is a dick. He totally ignored Peyton who tryed to shake his hand, and then acted like a solemn bitch at the press conference.

ROFL, what was he suppose to be all cheerey? Grossman is completely full of himself and so unaware of the fact that he actually ISN'T a great quaterback.

it's completely different to be upset after losing a big game, but to be a dick after winning a game leaves a bad taste in my mouth

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Black folks love Clinton. He's down.

[bleep_bloop]

i love clinton, am i black?

[RetiredAt21]

I would smoke a joint with Clinton.

[AIRIC]

You would smoke anythign with anyone.

[bottlerocket]

^ Hahahahaha!

Exactly.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I have to write a poetry annalysis essay for my english final tomorrow. We could use lyrics. I'm thinking of using "Heroin" by The Velvet Underground, but I'm not sure yet. I'm also considering a Joy Division song or Xiu Xiu. I might do "Brian The Vampire". Any suggestions guys?

[pixiesfanyo]

Gav, Bright Eyes suck.

Quit putting them in your AIM profile and acting like you're profound.

[srt-4]

Dude but it's not the government's job to dictate to parents how to raise their children.

Also, he uses Cannibal Corpse as a primary example whenever he talks about death metal believing that the lyrics are not just granted rather tasteless fantasies but actual suggestions. He has said in interviews that it goes against his morals as a person to allow children to listen to such music, which is reason enough to keep him out of office because the point of government is not to establish morals for the citizentry.

Tight ***? Most definitely.
ya, i don't think its the government's job to legislate morality either, but subject to mill's harm principle. this isn’t simply an issue of morality; this is an issue of harm to society. violent video games act as operant conditioning in the same manner as military training methods that very successfully turn civilians into killers. that’s scary. the same goes for violence in movies, and to a lesser extent music, except that its classical conditioning instead of operant. the government very much has a role in dealing with dangers to society. another way to look at it is in terms of free market economics. to save me the writing and to provide what is, i’m sure, a better explanation, i’ll just post a link to this decent explanation: http://www.tutor2u.net/economics/content/topics/externalities/what_are_externalities.htm. the case of violent material is one of an externality, as the cost to society of the increased violence is not taken into account in the price of the material. its like free market economics 101 that the role of the government is to take specific action to correct market failures.

also, i really don’t see how preventing minors from purchasing mature-rated materials is interfering with parents raising their children. parents could still purchase the material for their children if they wanted the children to have it.

as far as politicians go, i think he is a pretty good one, and i agree with many of his positions. he seems to be a pretty legit guy. he follows his beliefs and appears to be above much of the partisan pettiness and corruption of washington. i personally haven’t read him say his main reason for taking the stand against violence in the media is because its against his personal beliefs. i've read him say that it is because he believes it is doing harm to kids. but if what you said is indeed the case, then i would disagree with that reasoning. hell, at the end of the day, you might be right. maybe he is a tight ***, but i still think he would be a good president.

[srt-4]

I have to write a poetry annalysis essay for my english final tomorrow. We could use lyrics. I'm thinking of using "Heroin" by The Velvet Underground, but I'm not sure yet. I'm also considering a Joy Division song or Xiu Xiu. I might do "Brian The Vampire". Any suggestions guys?
love will tear us apart

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I would totally use any Joy Division but they don't really use any poetic elements that I can write an essay about.

[srt-4]

Maybe decisive isn't the best word but as far as I'm concerned his actions in Kosovo and the assassination of Sinan Al-Harithi (who was responsible for the bombing of the Cole) proved that he went in, got the job done, and got out. He didn't entangle us in places where we shouldn't be. And I'm sure you're gonna through Black Hawk Down in my face but the Islamist extremists were more formidable than we could have imagined. And don't get me started on the ****ing nerve of the Republicans of saying that Clinton is responsible for 9/11 because he "let Osama and Al Qaeda go" in Somalia, Yemen (The Cole), Kenya, etc. To blame Clinton for this administration's mistakes is ridiculous. When Clinton left office, he had a five point plan for cracking down on global terrorism which included freezing assets to extremist groups like Al Qaeda and assassinating Osama Bind Laden. The plan was ignored by the Bush Administration. And if you really want to start blaming preceding presidents for terrorist attacks, then George Bush Sr. is responsible for the 1993 WTC bombing and pretty the beginning of Al Qaeda's terrorist plots towards America.
i’m not saying that you are, but you kind of come off as a little blinded by party politics.

i’m pretty sure the guy responsible for the cole bombing was killed after 9/11 by the bush administration as part of the war on terror. and i think i remember there being a fuss from some on the left about it being “illegal.”

and as far as not entangling us in places we shouldn’t be. well, i am going to "throw black hawk down in your face", but not because he pulled our forces out, but because we should have never been there. i really don’t understand “the islamist extremists were more formidable than we could have imagined.” the operation in somalia was a humanitarian mission. we were there to stop interference with aid deliveries to starving somalis. it had nothing to do with fighting islamists. our national interest was not concerned there, and therefore there was no reason to put our troops in harms way. the same goes for kosovo and bosnia. we should have never been there. the exact opposite of him not entangling us in places we shouldn’t have been. also, under clinton’s presidency, we had forces in iraq. so, if you say iraq (maybe the middle east as a whole? you haven’t really been clear on this) is some place we shouldn’t be, and clinton ordered operations there, how can you say he didn’t put us in places we shouldn’t have been?

i really don’t understand how you can say iraq is some place we shouldn’t have been, though. by what criteria are you determining that? by realpolitik, it most certainly is. our national well-being is very concerned in iraq. by humanitarian standards (which i reject, but you seem to embrace by your approval of kosovo, which i’ll add was undertaken without UN approval) we also should have been there, considering the actions of hussein’s regime. the fact of the matter is that the middle east was, and is, perhaps the most critical area of the world concerning our national interest, and iraq was one of the biggest issues in the region. however, i can certainly understand, and agree in some points, with criticism of and disagreement with the actions that were taken regarding iraq. but saying it is somewhere we should never have been entangled is way off base in my opinion.

you laid out a defense of clinton from an attack which you seem to have expected, but i never made. i don’t blame clinton for what happened. there is no doubt in my mind that 9/11 would have happened with any likely president instead serving clinton or bush’s term(s). the entire nation neglected terrorism. it was seen as a minor threat by civilian agencies, by the military, by elected leaders, and by the population as a whole. 9/11 is what it took for us to wake up to the threat. similarly, i think it is ridiculous to try to lay the blame on the bush administration. the idea that the bush administration was handed some perfect plan to deal with terrorism and briefed to the imminent danger that was posed to this nation and completely disregarded this and allowed 9/11 to happen is silly. neither party deserves the majority blame for what happened. there is more than enough blame to go around to everyone. what is important is moving forward and learning from and correcting our mistakes. there is more than enough work to be done in that area to keep us occupied without wasting so much effort at endless finger pointing.

[srt-4]

man, that was a lot of typing^^^^. i guess it shows how much i like debating with you guys. haha.
I would totally use any Joy Division but they don't really use any poetic elements that I can write an essay about.
oh. what about a thursday song?

[bleep_bloop]

do an indian summer song. or do a destroyer song. or a song by the knife.

[RetiredAt21]

Injun Summer lol

[whiteminority]

ROFL, what was he suppose to be all cheerey? Grossman is completely full of himself and so unaware of the fact that he actually ISN'T a great quaterback.

it's completely different to be upset after losing a big game, but to be a dick after winning a game leaves a bad taste in my mouth

I don't expect him to be cheery, I expect him to act like a damn professional. This whole season has made him look like an 8 year old, first where he wouldn't even refer to Eric Mangini by name because he was so pissed the dude took an offer to be a head coach. Bellicheck if he didn't have Tom Brady in my opinion wouldn't be ****, compare the two's playoff records.

He wasn't full of himself, he was ****ing happy because everybody shits on the Bears. If you think that he was "trying to avoid making mistakes" as being full of himself then dream on dude, he realizes that when he get's under pressure he has a lot of trouble. One thing though Grossman did lead the league for games in the regular season with a 100+ QB rating, granted he also lead it with ratings under 50 I believe, but if you think about it this way, Grossman had no playing time his first or second season (rookie and injury) and about 3 games last year because of injury so this experience wise is his second year and if you look at stats and such he's doing a ****ing phenomenal job for his experience.

[Matt?]

he openly said that he didn't play well one game because he partied the night before.

that isn't the performance of a good quaterback

[whiteminority]

ya, i don't think its the government's job to legislate morality either, but subject to mill's harm principle. this isn’t simply an issue of morality; this is an issue of harm to society. violent video games act as operant conditioning in the same manner as military training methods that very successfully turn civilians into killers. that’s scary. the same goes for violence in movies, and to a lesser extent music, except that its classical conditioning instead of operant. the government very much has a role in dealing with dangers to society. another way to look at it is in terms of free market economics. to save me the writing and to provide what is, i’m sure, a better explanation, i’ll just post a link to this decent explanation: http://www.tutor2u.net/economics/content/topics/externalities/what_are_externalities.htm. the case of violent material is one of an externality, as the cost to society of the increased violence is not taken into account in the price of the material. its like free market economics 101 that the role of the government is to take specific action to correct market failures.

also, i really don’t see how preventing minors from purchasing mature-rated materials is interfering with parents raising their children. parents could still purchase the material for their children if they wanted the children to have it.

as far as politicians go, i think he is a pretty good one, and i agree with many of his positions. he seems to be a pretty legit guy. he follows his beliefs and appears to be above much of the partisan pettiness and corruption of washington. i personally haven’t read him say his main reason for taking the stand against violence in the media is because its against his personal beliefs. i've read him say that it is because he believes it is doing harm to kids. but if what you said is indeed the case, then i would disagree with that reasoning. hell, at the end of the day, you might be right. maybe he is a tight ***, but i still think he would be a good president.

Look at how many copies of the main scapegoat of the violent video game debate (Grand Theft Auto) have been sold then look at the number of violent youth acts. They're so small they can be known as anomalies, it's up to parents to teach their children that shooting people is ****ed. The games have those damn ratings for a reason to indicate that these games have some violent material, that being said I've been playing the GTA series since I was about 10 when my older brother bought number 2 for the Dreamcast and COMMON SENSE told me that killing people is wrong and I never thought of re-enacting what I saw. Parents need to stop blaming entertainment products and start stepping up their main job as a person for the 18 years that child lives with them BEING A PARENT. Blaming a video game for making someone's little Jonny go psycho is like blaming McDonald's for making you obese; take some god damn responsibility for your own actions.

[whiteminority]

he openly said that he didn't play well one game because he partied the night before.

Yes he did, but at least he accepted that he made a ****ing error.

Matt I'm not saying he is some great quarterback but right now he is doing just fine. Let me put it this way I like Rex Grossman but I know there are better quarterbacks out there.

Also in response to your edit, Rex was dumb enough to admit it. If you think there are quarterbacks who have had off days because they partied the night before or looking forward to a party that night then you are delusional.

[Matt?]

it's not good sportsmanship. sure the game didn't matter but it sure made him look like a fool to everyone who already isn't a fan of the bears.

it doesn't matter qb's can party all they want but the night before a game really gives you no shred of humility at all

[whiteminority]

Well it wasn't before the game, that game was played on New Year's eve.

[Matt?]

ughh that's even worse

[bottlerocket]

Gav, Bright Eyes suck.

Quit putting them in your AIM profile and acting like you're profound.

No, I just like Bright Eyes.

Tool.

[Matt?]

i thought that video was kinda boring tbh.

never could get into his voice

[whiteminority]

No, I just like Bright Eyes.

Tool.

What's wrong with liking Bright Eyes these days?

[bottlerocket]

It's not hardcore.

Jared is just a loser.

Matt: I like the video. I think the ending result is a really cool picture if you look into it.

[Luxor]

What's wrong with liking Bright Eyes these days?

Sucks?

[pixiesfanyo]

What's wrong with liking Bright Eyes these days?

I like me some Bright Eyes.

[RetiredAt21]

I like a couple Bright Eyes songs.

[cobert]

I dont really like Bright Eyes at all.

[Eliminator]

i want a cobert i don't hafta luv

[cobert]

ROFL

[whiteminority]

Sucks?

Nah man.

[whiteminority]

I dont really like Bright Eyes at all.

Cobabe...

Cobhate.

[cobert]

Its not that I dislike him, Im just not interested in his music. It kind of bores me.

[Eliminator]

it's something vague that cob's not seeing

[whiteminority]

Its not that I dislike him, Im just not interested in his music. It kind of bores me.

I understand.

[cbmartinez]

i’m not saying that you are, but you kind of come off as a little blinded by party politics.

i’m pretty sure the guy responsible for the cole bombing was killed after 9/11 by the bush administration as part of the war on terror. and i think i remember there being a fuss from some on the left about it being “illegal.”

and as far as not entangling us in places we shouldn’t be. well, i am going to "throw black hawk down in your face", but not because he pulled our forces out, but because we should have never been there. i really don’t understand “the islamist extremists were more formidable than we could have imagined.” the operation in somalia was a humanitarian mission. we were there to stop interference with aid deliveries to starving somalis. it had nothing to do with fighting islamists. our national interest was not concerned there, and therefore there was no reason to put our troops in harms way. the same goes for kosovo and bosnia. we should have never been there. the exact opposite of him not entangling us in places we shouldn’t have been. also, under clinton’s presidency, we had forces in iraq. so, if you say iraq (maybe the middle east as a whole? you haven’t really been clear on this) is some place we shouldn’t be, and clinton ordered operations there, how can you say he didn’t put us in places we shouldn’t have been?

i really don’t understand how you can say iraq is some place we shouldn’t have been, though. by what criteria are you determining that? by realpolitik, it most certainly is. our national well-being is very concerned in iraq. by humanitarian standards (which i reject, but you seem to embrace by your approval of kosovo, which i’ll add was undertaken without UN approval) we also should have been there, considering the actions of hussein’s regime. the fact of the matter is that the middle east was, and is, perhaps the most critical area of the world concerning our national interest, and iraq was one of the biggest issues in the region. however, i can certainly understand, and agree in some points, with criticism of and disagreement with the actions that were taken regarding iraq. but saying it is somewhere we should never have been entangled is way off base in my opinion.

you laid out a defense of clinton from an attack which you seem to have expected, but i never made. i don’t blame clinton for what happened. there is no doubt in my mind that 9/11 would have happened with any likely president instead serving clinton or bush’s term(s). the entire nation neglected terrorism. it was seen as a minor threat by civilian agencies, by the military, by elected leaders, and by the population as a whole. 9/11 is what it took for us to wake up to the threat. similarly, i think it is ridiculous to try to lay the blame on the bush administration. the idea that the bush administration was handed some perfect plan to deal with terrorism and briefed to the imminent danger that was posed to this nation and completely disregarded this and allowed 9/11 to happen is silly. neither party deserves the majority blame for what happened. there is more than enough blame to go around to everyone. what is important is moving forward and learning from and correcting our mistakes. there is more than enough work to be done in that area to keep us occupied without wasting so much effort at endless finger pointing.

My mistake, he was killed by the Bush Administration.

I don't know, it seems like we're going to get into an argument of semantics, when do we interfere and when do we not, you know? Having troops in Iraq during Clinton's administration isn't the same as what is going on now. In Kosovo, Clinton was working behind NATO, which is a lot different than defying the UN blatantly like we did in Iraq. Again, it's semantics, sure it they both defied the UN but at least by acting as part of the NATO force, there was less chance of long term and large scale commitment. Hey, maybe it was just luck that we went in and out of Kosovo so fast and Bush is stuck in Iraq, but being a Democrat, I gotta point more effective military strategy. As far as humanitarian cause, again, it all goes back to semantics. Humanitarian doesn't mean supporting every thing, risk and the seriousness of the event must be assessed. Darfur, 400,000 dead, 2 million displaced, Kosovo, 850,000 displaced. These things are pretty imminent humanitarian conflicts to me. And similarly, both of these regions are in political disarray. Now, I've never been able to establish a real number for how many people Saddam supposedly killed. Sure he suppressed but the government was stable and suppression exists everywhere. I simply don't see Iraq as a serious enough conflict for us to be involved, an the UN didn't think so either (I know, they didn't think Kosovo was either). Sure, their were the reasons of WMDs and the harboring of Al Qaeda but time has proven both of these accusations to be false. The War In Iraq is a big mess but the hypocrisy that goes on within foreign policy just makes it all the more upsetting. North Korea is clearly a more imminent threat, Darfur is clearly more imminent (UN think so on this one), even Iran is more imminent. The reason we're in Iraq is for oil. George W. Bush lied to the American public from day one. There were no WMDs, Saddam was not harboring Al Qaeda, and the mission sure as hell wasn't accomplished in 2003.

As far as the Clinton thing, I didn't mean to attack you man (preemptive strike heheh). You're the smartest guy on here in regards to politics and you definitely have me on a couple of those points. I definitely need to think this stuff over. In the mean time, I wait for your response.

[Mr. Ron]

So, anyone else like Reds?

[Spiritofmosa]

um dropping by here for the first time... i cant wait for funeral for a friend's new album.

[team_racket]

cant say im a fan of ffaf, seen them a few times as they are local. they dont belong in this forum though, try the pop punk forum mate.

[bottlerocket]

um dropping by here for the first time... i cant wait for funeral for a friend's new album.

Talk about them in the pop-punk forum. They are neither hardcore nor emo.

FFAF is OK, though. Some of their songs are SO BORING but every once in a while there's a pretty cool song in there.

[team_racket]

love the riff at the beginning of the art of american football by ffaf. just finished watching the fugazi dvd. pretty damn good.

[RetiredAt21]

um dropping by here for the first time... i cant wait for funeral for a friend's new album.

They aren't emo, n00b. lol j/k they suck, though.

[pixiesfanyo]

Niko
User
16, United States
Registered: 26 May 2005
Tracks played: 70,823

If you average every month to 30 days and then average every track to 3 minutes. He has spent 60% of the past eight months sitting at a computer listening to music. I'd say 20% of that total time was probably sleeping. So Niko really does nothing ever.

[Luxor]

LOL

[RCVA]

How'd you work that out? It looks like it's been 18 months to me.

[Luxor]

It's 20 months, actually.

If you work it out it's like 6+ hours of listening to music a day.

[RCVA]

That's crazy.


I manage about 2 hours a day and that's usually from like 6-8 pm.

[pixiesfanyo]

Ah.

I seriously didn't believe that anyone could possibly listen to music that much.

Makes sense, since it's 2007 and all. XD

[Matt?]

yes yes yes yes

i just won the navio forge lp + three other lps

[pixiesfanyo]

how much?

[Matt?]

33 dollars.

it was in the post but i edited out because for some reason i felt strange about posting it

[pixiesfanyo]

because it's dumb to spend 33 dollars on a vinyl?

[Matt?]

that was for all four records

[pixiesfanyo]

well i mean, if it was four copies of Rush's 21:12.

[Matt?]

i can't tell if that is condescending towards rush or not.

[deadohiosky9]

guys, i'm stoned.

[pixiesfanyo]

i can't tell if that is condescending towards rush or not.

Dude, if you like rush gtfo.

And I'm not talking about the forums, I'm talking about the kinda **** that Hatebreed saves you from.

[Matt?]

your posts keep me on my toes. but still i'm confused

[cobert]

He might not necessarily be at his computer while those tracks are on. Its not like its impossible to walk around and get things done while your computer is running.

[RetiredAt21]

guys, i'm stoned.

lol me 2

[Luxor]

Rush is badass.

[pixiesfanyo]

Rush is badass.

LOL.

[RetiredAt21]

Rush reminds me of Coheed And Cambria, even though Rush was making music while the guys from C&C were still s'hitting their diapers.

[Luxor]

Most likely even before that.

[whiteminority]

Dude, if you like rush gtfo.

And I'm not talking about the forums, I'm talking about the kinda **** that Hatebreed saves you from.

Dude shut the **** up.

[DFelon204409]

Rush reminds me of Coheed And Cambria, even though Rush was making music while the guys from C&C were still s'hitting their diapers.

Co and Ca > Rush though. I listened to a tape of 2113 on repeat driving to Boston and back for a rugby game. That was intense. I would have been pumped for the game if I weren't so unbeilvably chill.

[RetiredAt21]

Most likely even before that.

Now that I think about, you're right. They probably weren't even born yet.

[Matt?]

yeah rush destroys coheed imo

[whiteminority]

matt have you re-registered for vlv now that it's back with PRESSING INFO?

[Matt?]

yes

[bottlerocket]

Co and Ca > Rush though.

I just lost any respect I had for you. :mad:

[i am the robots]

Co&Ca = Coheed and Cambria?

[cobert]

Yeah.

The Second Stage Turbine Blade rules, you assholes.

[AIRIC]

Yeah Coheed and Cambria aren't THAT bad.

[team_racket]

time consumer reminds me of tom sawyer so much.

[cobert]

Junesong Provision is seriously one of my favorite songs ever.

[i am the robots]

Yeah.

I just threw up in my mouth.

[cobert]

Except The Second Stage Turbine Blade is radddd.

**** Good Apollo.

And while were on the subject of bands I like that nobody in here does (that I know of), Im listening to The Dismemberment Plan again.

[i am the robots]

I'm just saying that comparing Coheed to Rush made me throw up in the mouth.

Rush is elite.

[cobert]

I see I see.

[Arrakakaka]

We played YYZ for a recital. I pwned on bass.

I hate Rush though.

[Luxor]

I got bored with the Dismemberment Plan pretty quickly. And stop comparing Rush to Coheed or I'll punch all of you.

[RetiredAt21]

Alot of people around here like the Dismemberment Plan. I don't know why, though. I think they are lame.

[bottlerocket]

I like The Dismemberment Plan. They have this one song that's like:

'Till Todayyyy
Ohhhh
'Till Today

I forget what it's called. I'm pretty sure its not called 'Till Today.

Some of their songs rule, though; whichever other songs are on that album.

[pixiesfanyo]

Rush is not elite.

They're the worst band ever. Besides maybe Tool.

[Matt?]

dude you gave a circle takes the square album a higher score than minor threats discography...

[RetiredAt21]

I don't like Rush either. I find them really irritating.

[Concubine]

Rush is not elite.

They're the worst band ever. Besides maybe Tool.

Ugh no.

[bottlerocket]

Haha

Minor Threat Discog > CTTS discog by far

[RetiredAt21]

If you could only listen to Minor Threat or CTTS, who would you choose?

[pixiesfanyo]

Hm. Probably CTTS.

But, that EP was rated two years ago. And I recently changed my MT discography rating.

MT's discography is better than that CTTS EP.

[srt-4]

Look at how many copies of the main scapegoat of the violent video game debate (Grand Theft Auto) have been sold then look at the number of violent youth acts. They're so small they can be known as anomalies, it's up to parents to teach their children that shooting people is ****ed. The games have those damn ratings for a reason to indicate that these games have some violent material, that being said I've been playing the GTA series since I was about 10 when my older brother bought number 2 for the Dreamcast and COMMON SENSE told me that killing people is wrong and I never thought of re-enacting what I saw. Parents need to stop blaming entertainment products and start stepping up their main job as a person for the 18 years that child lives with them BEING A PARENT. Blaming a video game for making someone's little Jonny go psycho is like blaming McDonald's for making you obese; take some god damn responsibility for your own actions.
i think you're misunderstanding what i'm saying. its not that i think it will have a conscious effect on kids. i don't believe they will think that something is ok to do just becasue they saw it in a game. i agree, thats ridiculous, and in the cases where it might actually happen, i agree that it would be the parents fault.

what i'm talking about is different. you can't notice any changes. its just that the safeguard thats in our brains that we never realize is there until the moment to kill comes is eroded without us being aware. it wasn't until the moment to kill came that the 80-85% of US infrantrymen in world war II discovered that they couldn't fire at the enemy. operant conditioning destroys the resistance in modern soldiers without them ever realizing it was tehre or that something in their mind has changed. when the moment to kill comes, that resistance isn't there and they never know that it once was. video games condition in the same manner. thats what i'm talking about, not some ridiculous idea of a conscious erosion of morals.

[srt-4]

My mistake, he was killed by the Bush Administration.

I don't know, it seems like we're going to get into an argument of semantics, when do we interfere and when do we not, you know? Having troops in Iraq during Clinton's administration isn't the same as what is going on now. In Kosovo, Clinton was working behind NATO, which is a lot different than defying the UN blatantly like we did in Iraq. Again, it's semantics, sure it they both defied the UN but at least by acting as part of the NATO force, there was less chance of long term and large scale commitment. Hey, maybe it was just luck that we went in and out of Kosovo so fast and Bush is stuck in Iraq, but being a Democrat, I gotta point more effective military strategy. As far as humanitarian cause, again, it all goes back to semantics. Humanitarian doesn't mean supporting every thing, risk and the seriousness of the event must be assessed. Darfur, 400,000 dead, 2 million displaced, Kosovo, 850,000 displaced. These things are pretty imminent humanitarian conflicts to me. And similarly, both of these regions are in political disarray. Now, I've never been able to establish a real number for how many people Saddam supposedly killed. Sure he suppressed but the government was stable and suppression exists everywhere. I simply don't see Iraq as a serious enough conflict for us to be involved, an the UN didn't think so either (I know, they didn't think Kosovo was either). Sure, their were the reasons of WMDs and the harboring of Al Qaeda but time has proven both of these accusations to be false. The War In Iraq is a big mess but the hypocrisy that goes on within foreign policy just makes it all the more upsetting. North Korea is clearly a more imminent threat, Darfur is clearly more imminent (UN think so on this one), even Iran is more imminent. The reason we're in Iraq is for oil. George W. Bush lied to the American public from day one. There were no WMDs, Saddam was not harboring Al Qaeda, and the mission sure as hell wasn't accomplished in 2003.

As far as the Clinton thing, I didn't mean to attack you man (preemptive strike heheh). You're the smartest guy on here in regards to politics and you definitely have me on a couple of those points. I definitely need to think this stuff over. In the mean time, I wait for your response.

Ya, the operations in Iraq under Clinton were very different, I was just saying that the change was in nature of involvement, not area of involvement. And I can completely understand you disagreeing with those changes.

As far as that involvement goes, the majority of the Iraqi people wanted Hussein gone, the majority of the governments in the region wanted him gone, and we wanted him gone. The status quo was no good. Over about a decade, there were nearly endless combat air patrols over half of Iraq, numerous air strikes, attempts by the Iraqis to shoot down aircraft, refusals to admit weapons inspectors, ect. The only ways that it would end were if the US finally gave up trying to keep Hussein in check or if the regime was ended. By looking at his history, we can see that there is no way he would ever have been safe to leave in power unchecked. So that left only one option for changing the status quo.

You see it as hypocritical that we took action against Iraq, but not Iran or North Korea. Well, the situations are different for all three of those states. The situations are such that military action against North Korea was/is very unappealing for various reasons that I won’t get into for the sake of post length, but I’m sure you are already aware of. With Iran, four years ago it was much less of a threat than it is today. At that time, Iraq appeared to be a more significant threat. It was estimated that Iran was a decade away from a bomb at that time, and the current extremist president of Iran wasn’t in power either. Also, a military option, while possible, was far from ideal, and it likely would have turned out much worse at its best than Iraq could have turned out if done right. If handled much better, Iraq really could have been one of the easiest, most bloodless "regime changes" possible. Iraq was the logical choice for a threat to deal with militarily for that reason and also because it would have probably brought Iran into check too. Remember that after it appeared that the US had ending Hussein’s regime effortlessly that Libya gave up its weapons program. Well, the creation of a stable, US-back Iraqi government with US military bases in Iraq would, in my opinion, have led Iran in the same direction. Just look at how much our difficulty in Iraq has emboldened Iran. Our success would have had just as significant an effect but in the opposite way, and done much to diminish other threats in the region (this may seem like a stretch, but history shows many times how geopolitical shifts like that have this remarkable ability to alter other geopolitical realities).

So a success in Iraq would have greatly improved our geopolitical position in the world, as well as that of our allies, and would have only had bad effects for the Iraqis that were part of Hussein's regime and our other enemies in the region, such as Iran and the Islamic extremists. The problem was that it got completely ****ed up. Bush trusted some very experienced people but they failed. As you can tell, I agreed with the goal in Iraq for the most part. However, I disagree with nearly every single aspect of its execution, up until a few weeks ago. Its hard to imagine how it could have been handled worse. Bush is the leader, its all on him, like he stated: “mistakes have been made, and the responsibility rests with me.”

As far as the lying goes, I don’t think he was attempting to deceive the American people. When he declared “victory”, he believed that. It took quite a while for many in the administration to get their heads out of their asses and realize what was really going on. As far as intelligence goes, I don’t think he was really lying to the American people there either. I think he truly believed Saddam had the weapons. Basically there were some contradictory reports, and Hussein either had the weapons or he didn’t, both positions can’t be true. Bush believed he did, so he accepted the intelligence that backed that position as true and rejected the opposing. It turned out to be wrong, and he bears responsibility for that. But the idea that Bush led America to believe Saddam had wmds, while Bush actually believed that he didn’t isn’t accurate in my opinion. The idea that Hussein was somehow connected to 9/11 was completely untrue. I agree with you there. However, it is true that there were links to terrorism.

And could you elaborate on your war for oil statement?

On NATO, it’s a military organization, not a political one. I agree it would have been much better if we had more international support; I really wish that had been the case. But I think a military alliance should be brought into a war only if it serves a military purpose, not a political one. In this case, having NATO involved would have done more harm than good. We had more than enough military capability with the “coalition of the willing.” Having the under-trained, under-equipped, largely ineffective forces that make up much of the rest of NATO there would not have been helpful. Much of this was demonstrated in Kosovo.

And thanks for the compliment. In not too long you could know more than I do now. I’m discussing this so much with you because I respect your opinion. Most places on the internet where this stuff is discussed, like the political forum on this site, I avoid due to the type of people that are usually participating in the discussions.

hopefully all that rambling made some sense. haha.

[pixiesfanyo]

srt-4. i can imagine every girl you've ever been with being severely disappointed with your sheer ability to waste so much time doing **** nobody cares about.

[bottlerocket]

I think srt is a really intelligent guy who has his **** in order.

I bet the dude's hung like an elephant.

[whiteminority]

yes

you still name?

[whiteminority]

Rush is not elite.

They're the worst band ever. Besides maybe Tool.

Pixiesfanyo = worst joke account ever.

[whiteminority]

i think you're misunderstanding what i'm saying. its not that i think it will have a conscious effect on kids. i don't believe they will think that something is ok to do just becasue they saw it in a game. i agree, thats ridiculous, and in the cases where it might actually happen, i agree that it would be the parents fault.

what i'm talking about is different. you can't notice any changes. its just that the safeguard thats in our brains that we never realize is there until the moment to kill comes is eroded without us being aware. it wasn't until the moment to kill came that the 80-85% of US infrantrymen in world war II discovered that they couldn't fire at the enemy. operant conditioning destroys the resistance in modern soldiers without them ever realizing it was tehre or that something in their mind has changed. when the moment to kill comes, that resistance isn't there and they never know that it once was. video games condition in the same manner. thats what i'm talking about, not some ridiculous idea of a conscious erosion of morals.

Ok, I understand what you are saying a bit better now. I don't think you can put all that blame upon video games though, you take violent movies or even the nightly news is filled with images that make the population have a lower value of human life.

I agree that young children shouldn't be playing these games because of the desensitizing that occurs in their minds, however, I still think it should be the parents call on whether the game can be played or not.

[pixiesfanyo]

I think srt is a really intelligent guy who has his **** in order.

I bet the dude's hung like an elephant.

Oh, I mean sure he's intelligent.

But, his four page long speeches about politics are just so pointless it's ridiculous.

[Matt?]

still name

[cobert]

I think srt is a really intelligent guy who has his **** in order.

I bet the dude's hung like an elephant.

prolly loololol

[Eliminator]

i think you're misunderstanding what i'm saying

[cobert]

I read a quote from the president once that said "They misunderestimated me".

[Eliminator]

i never get estimated :(:(:(

[World Burns To Death]

rush rule, listen to the song freewill.

[DFelon204409]

I recorded a new ambient track. www.purevolume.com/primemeridian

It's okay. Has cool parts. Oh ya it s the first track.

[Luxor]

People still use purevolume?

[DFelon204409]

People still use purevolume?

I like it better than myspace because it doesnt have wack shut downs and loading times and it has a way better design. It's made for music, not social networking. And besides, DRACULACORE even still uses hxcmp3.com

[Neoteric]

DRACULACORE are my favourite band ever, like srsly

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

My brother and I took guitar lessons from this guy for about a year and a half before we quit in 8th grade

http://www.whittierdailynews.com/search/ci_5090992

Saw him on the Fox11 news last night. Crazy s'hit.

[cobert]

ROFL

Im taking the SATs tomorrow and it going to suck because i have 2 massive blisters on my fingertips which will surely affect my writing which is already pretty illegible.

[whiteminority]

My brother and I took guitar lessons from this guy for about a year and a half before we quit in 8th grade

http://www.whittierdailynews.com/search/ci_5090992

Saw him on the Fox11 news last night. Crazy s'hit.

They should make that an episode of Law and Order: SVU.

[pixiesfanyo]

DRACULACORE are my favourite band ever, like srsly

DRACULACORE is the only **** worse than CB's band.

[DFelon204409]

I remember listening to cb's back in the day. Was it sort of like Blood Brothers? Upbeat with screaming?

[pixiesfanyo]

No, terrible indie rock.

[DFelon204409]

Somebody repost. I didn't remember it being horrible.

[whiteminority]

http://www.myspace.com/soulcinematheatre

[cobert]

Took the SAT's today, **** was mad easy.

A fire alarm went off in the school i was taking them in, we evacuated (huge school, I went down 6 flights of stairs), but there wasnt a fire.

I need to get the game Diplomacy.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

When I took my PSAT earlier this year during the middle of it my school had a lock down due to a bomb threat.

[i am the robots]

PSAT's are pointless.

and yeah, the SAT's weren't really very hard at all, I'm cool and got a 1270/1600.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Well its a pretty good idea to take the PSAT just to see how you would do and how to prepare.

[i am the robots]

I never took the PSAT, and I got into PSU.

Try to be like me kids, I'm awesome.

NP: Dead Man In Reno - Even In My Dreams

[whiteminority]

You had an underoath avatar. No thanks bro.

[Matt?]

Superchunk

[Matt?]

rules

[i am the robots]

You had an underoath avatar. No thanks bro.

Musical taste isn't everyfing, I mean, I have friends who listen to black metal exclusively...

[RetiredAt21]

I think listening to just black metal would be stupid.

[Matt?]

i didn't take the psats

i'm kinda nervous

[pixiesfanyo]

more like pussyasstitties.

[Matt?]

why does pandora always suck my dick

[RetiredAt21]

more like pussyasstitties.

lololololol

[cobert]

Pandora always has like, a cycle where it plays 30 crap songs then like 5 really good ones then it starts back with the bad ones.

I first heard of superchunk on pandora, theyre pretty radddd.

[Matt?]

my station is beginning to get good.

it just played some sdre which pleased me


edit: now it's playing braid. have i found pandora success

[cobert]

No you havent. I have a station full of indie emo but it still usually starts to **** up.

[Matt?]

well so far it feels pretty cool. i've been doing thumbs up/down on this thing on and off for like a week or two when bored.

now it seems to be paying off

edit: texas is the reason now word

[Eliminator]

I think listening to just black metal would be stupid.

for real

[Matt?]

i think just listening to any one genre would be kinda stupid

[RetiredAt21]

True.

[cobert]

Just installed Medieval II: Total War.

[RetiredAt21]

Nice. Is it cool as hell?

[cobert]

Dont know, it just now finished like a second ago, ive yet to play.

[cobert]

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[RetiredAt21]

This application has failed to start beacuse D3DX9_30.DLL was not found. re-installing the applicaion may fix this problem.

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That's the kinda crap that got me out of PC gaming.

[cobert]

Im tired of fighting with it, im just not going to play it.

[whiteminority]

Computers are evil save for the internet(s).

[pixiesfanyo]

grits grumble grag

[Matt?]

But Things They Change People They Grow Move In Step With The Green Paper Flow And Deep Inside I Wonder Or Maybe I Already Know

They Never Really Find The Answersssssss

[SGlove]

Hey guys.
I almost got herpes.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2748372&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

[pixiesfanyo]

herpes outbreak.

interesting.

[cobert]

Mmmmm Lucky Charms.

[Luxor]

One of my friends just found out he gotz the clap. Hopefully the manwhore will learn something.

[team_racket]

isnt that when they open an umbrella down your pork sword and pull it out, all the nasty gunk with it ?

[Luxor]

Now I'm thinking twice about what the clap is slang for... He's got chlamydia.

Says he just has to take pills, but according to him after he takes them he feels like he's being repeatedly punched in the stomach. Pretty shitty.

[Eliminator]

maybe he shouldn't bone sloppy fat chicks anymore

[RetiredAt21]

Now I'm thinking twice about what the clap is slang for... He's got chlamydia.

Says he just has to take pills, but according to him after he takes them he feels like he's being repeatedly punched in the stomach. Pretty shitty.

The clap is slang for gonohrea (sp?)

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

He said chlamydia

[RetiredAt21]

Did you even read the post? Ryan was talking about his friend getting the clap and he thought it was gonorhrea.

[Luxor]

Risk Revival preorders are up on 29north. ****ing expensive though.

[TheMisterBungle]

Dude I ordered from 29north two weeks ago and haven't gotten ****.
But they say they had some sort of database error and it took them a week to ship. :angry:

[Luxor]

I have to pay $8 for shipping to Canada.

[TheMisterBungle]

I had to pay four, but I bought six CDs so it was a good deal.
Level Plane CDs are cheap too.

[Eliminator]

risk revival sucks

[cobert]

WHOOOOOOOOOOAH WHO IS THIIIIIIIIIIS
WHEEEEERE WAAAAAS SHEEEEE ALL THESE CRAZY YEAAAARS

[RetiredAt21]

risk revival sucks

You think everything sucks, shut the hell up.

[whiteminority]

Dude I ordered from 29north two weeks ago and haven't gotten ****.
But they say they had some sort of database error and it took them a week to ship. :angry:

If you ordered standard shipping then 2 weeks is standard shipping, each time I have ordered from LP they took around 3 weeks to ship. So if you have a database error it's gonna take a while.

[TheMisterBungle]

Hmm alright, I just really hope I get it today.

[cobert]

WHOOOOOOOOOOAH WHO IS THIIIIIIIIIIS
WHEEEEERE WAAAAAS SHEEEEE ALL THESE CRAZY YEAAAARS

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[Eliminator]

You think everything sucks, shut the hell up.

what's your problem?

it doesn't really suck but it's not really all that good either

[DFelon204409]

Eliminator just has to be a contrarian sometimes.

[Eliminator]

im such an individual

[pixiesfanyo]

Anyone heard Andrew Hill's Point of Departure?

It blows my mind.

[DFelon204409]

^^

That's why you have that mad deep, sepia-toned avatar.