Emo Community Thread

[BuddyBigsby]

I have it, but on my other computer.

[cbmartinez]

Haha, it's in my other pants.

[BridgeToSolace]

Otherwise, take your question to pop-punk where you'll be greeted with something like "bcuz tehy por der harts out i meen taek burt form the used he pueks onstage omg thast so intens"

It's not that bad.

Usually.

[capri sun junkie]

Anyone here like Mohinder? I just listened to one song and I really like it. I'm trying to look for their discography..

I have it on this very computer and own it. Its great. Just IM me when I'm on sometime and I'll send it, otherwise my soulseek is rds2020.

[tornpictures]

Anyone here like Mohinder? I just listened to one song and I really like it. I'm trying to look for their discography..

One of best bands of their time.
The basslines are crazy!!!

Marc Bianchi (Indian Summer) played in Mohinder for like a week.
Ken Shipley (September, Tree Records) told everyone he was in Mohinder. Lies lies lies.

[stikkis]

Can anybody suggest some The (International) Noise Conspiricy for me to download? Ago they're hardcore, well I think I haven't heard anything by them to actually know.

Litsen to The Shape Of Punk To Come by Refused. It's the band that broke up and became The (International) Noise Conspiricy, they are the hardcore you're looking for

[stop coming to my house]

i tried to plug this in the alternative section...

but listen to this -
www.purevolume.com/secondsmile

[iheartatreyu]

You aren't good enough to listen to them.

(a)
how am i not good enough to listen to them

[RetiredAt21]

Because you touch yourself at night.

[BuddyBigsby]

You've lurked on Lambgoat, haven't you?

[DFelon204409]

how am i not good enough to listen to them

1) Your user name cites Atreyu as something you "heart."
2) Your user title cites Bleeding Through as a quotable band.
3) "Heart" isn't a mother****ing verb!

[DeathHawk]

Well, they're still L or XL but they're Youth L or XL.

On an unrelated note, anybody wanna send me more You and I?

I have the discography

at

dialupsucks

[Foreverlastsamoment]

I beleive music has its own way of expressing itself, and many bands express it differently. Some bands i would like to suggest are..

I have dreams - a band with good variety of voices and meaningful lyrics. They blend a kind of hardcore guitar taste with screamo singing to make it very fun to listen to.

Sakita Sarra - Probobly one of the best bands from central jersey. "A bunch of freshmen in highschool trying to make a name for themselves..." With their distinct style in the screamo scene, like circle, and their devilish voices they put off a fun vibe as well as a good show. For as young as they are, they are worth the download. New EP coming out soon and you should all look into it. www.myspace.com/sakitasarra

Official Sakita Sarra Website (http://home.earthlink.net/~oklam6)

The Breakout - Another band from central jersey, the breakout is considered hardcore. I suggest the breakout because they put on an awesome show and their music is very well written. On their way with the new EP "Prove Us Wrong", we expect many things from this band. www.myspace.com/thebreakout

Lastly, i would like to reccomend the band Circle Takes The square. This is by far one of my favorite bands, i like them because of their high, and low screams, Their clean guitar riffs and drums beats, Their distinct words as well as style. They are amazing live and i have yet to see them mess up. This is an amazing band that will hit it big in the Screamo scene.

[DFelon204409]

I have the discography

at

dialupsucks

I don't have soulseek. I have a Mac. Worst thing since the OC premiered.

[NewKindofArmy03]

The Breakout - Another band from central jersey, the breakout is considered hardcore. I suggest the breakout because they put on an awesome show and their music is very well written. On their way with the new EP "Prove Us Wrong", we expect many things from this band. www.myspace.com/thebreakout

This band is awesome, i've been listening to them a lot lately.

[DeathHawk]

I don't have soulseek. I have a Mac. Worst thing since the OC premiered.


You have aim though right?


You can just browse my files by going through "get file"


aim is urielerubey

I leave it on for a long time usually so you shouldnt have a problem

[BridgeToSolace]

Sakita Sarra - Probobly one of the best bands from central jersey. "A bunch of freshmen in highschool trying to make a name for themselves..." With their distinct style in the screamo scene, like circle, and their devilish voices they put off a fun vibe as well as a good show. For as young as they are, they are worth the download. New EP coming out soon and you should all look into it. www.myspace.com/sakitasarra

The song is like nothing for the first 3:30. After that, cool. Very good for a group of freshman.

The Breakout - Another band from central jersey, the breakout is considered hardcore. I suggest the breakout because they put on an awesome show and their music is very well written. On their way with the new EP "Prove Us Wrong", we expect many things from this band. www.myspace.com/thebreakout

Good stuff. There are a few other people from NJ though, so most of us know who they are already :p

[cbmartinez]

I've been plugging Sakita Sarra for quite a while. Check their purevolume page for their other song, it doesn't have a long spacey intro.

[CommieCanada]

Chris tells me that this place doesnt suck. i might post on occasion

[CONNER_NWHC]

Re-upload your avatar man.

[frmautumTOashes]

I'm really starting to get into Hot Cross. Personally, I think they are better than Saetia, but a lot of people disagree with me. I think it's just cause Saetia has a more established reputation and have been around longer.

Who do you think is better?

[Lowend]

I'm guessing Hot Cross will be the popular pick.

personally, i listen to Saetia much more than Hot Cross.

[BuddyBigsby]

I listen to Hot Cross way more. I like 'em, but Saetia are kinda overrated.

[CommieCanada]

Re-upload your avatar man.
i'll upload your mom

[BuddyBigsby]

Who hasn't uploaded Chris' mom?

[CONNER_NWHC]

Who's Chris?

[BuddyBigsby]

cb.

[Wow]

I personally like Saetia more but I still love Hot Cross.

[srt-4]

overall i definitely like hot cross better, and i listen to them a lot more. the thing saetia has over hot cross though is the emotion. billy just doesn't seem to put that same emotion out there in his vocals or lyrics that he had with saetia, but people grow and move on, so thats kind of to be expected.

[tornpictures]

I have the discography

at

dialupsucks

Discography doesn't include their best album: The Curtain Falls.

[DFelon204409]

I don't think it's about emotion though. The point of Hot Cross is not to be this immaculate emo band but to mess around with unconventional elements of songwriting and sick guitar. They are probably the least "emotional" emo band around but they're still emo.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Someone should add something like in the punk forum about bands that don't belong in this forum. I'm getting tired of this Taking Back Sunday ****.

[Wow]

Word.

[A-Life-Less-Plagued]

Thank you DFelon.

[syurix]

Discography doesn't include their best album: The Curtain Falls.

God "Curtain Falls" is good, I'd say out of the whole Hot Cross/Saetia/You and I/Neil Perry family that "Curtain Falls" is probably my favorite record from that bunch. I can barely understand a word of it, but it's as much soul as I feel like I've ever heard in a record.

[DFelon204409]

I want it so bad! Somebody IM me!!!!!!

[taxi_driver76]

Does anyone know of bands with the same calibur as The #12 Looks Like You
and the Blood Brothers, everything else i've heard is f***ing repetitive.
Please give me some f***ing suggestions and stop trying to act like the music belongs to you, you shady f**ks!!

[taxi_driver76]

Re-upload your avatar man.
How the **** do you re-upload your avitar ,cause mine is ****ing up too?

[BuddyBigsby]

How the **** do you re-upload your avitar ,cause mine is ****ing up too?

You have to fill your bathtub up and then throw your computer tower into it.

[Wow]

Does anyone know of bands with the same calibur as The #12 Looks Like You
and the Blood Brothers, everything else i've heard is f***ing repetitive.
Please give me some f***ing suggestions and stop trying to act like the music belongs to you, you shady f**ks!!


You ask for music suggestions then call us "shady ****s." Way to go. :thumb:

[srt-4]

I don't think it's about emotion though. The point of Hot Cross is not to be this immaculate emo band but to mess around with unconventional elements of songwriting and sick guitar. They are probably the least "emotional" emo band around but they're still emo.

i agree, i don't think thats what they're going for either, i was just trying to say that i like the emotion that saetia had.

[tornpictures]

I want it so bad! Somebody IM me!!!!!!

www.alonerecords.com

Buy it.

[DFelon204409]

www.alonerecords.com

Buy it.

But that costs money!

[Lowend]

Does anyone know of bands with the same calibur as The #12 Looks Like You
and the Blood Brothers, everything else i've heard is f***ing repetitive.
Please give me some f***ing suggestions and stop trying to act like the music belongs to you, you shady f**ks!!

download songs by Envy.
here is one (http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/160625/envy-adeadsinkingstory-01-chainwonderingdeeply.mp3)
like it.

[Sep]

Lowend, the link doesn't work for me. :(

[Lowend]

i just downloaded it from that link....it should be working.

[Sep]

Yes it works now, thanks a lot. I've always wanted to hear some more Envy.

[DFelon204409]

download songs by Envy.
here is one (http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/160625/envy-adeadsinkingstory-01-chainwonderingdeeply.mp3)
like it.

There's always a sweet song of their linked from epitonic.com

[iEatHeartAttacks]

What would you guys consider The Jonbenet? I love them they remind me of the blood brothers somtimes.

http://www.myspace.com/thejonbenet

[deadohiosky9]

I had never heard any Envy before. I like em a lot. Japanese, its interesting.

[BridgeToSolace]

Yes it works now, thanks a lot. I've always wanted to hear some more Envy.

I've got like three or four of their albums.

They're sooo good.

[tornpictures]

How many copies of A Dead Sinking Story were pressed on 2xLP?

[leeroy123]

Would Envy be considered screamo? I just ordered A Dead Sinking Story and Hot Cross-Cryonics cd should be getting here shortly. :)

[cbmartinez]

Envy is screamo influenced but I'd call them more metalcore/post-hardcore.

[BuddyBigsby]

What's the best of the older Envy?

*has only ADSS*

[leeroy123]

All The Footprints You've Ever Left And The Fear Expecting Ahead is pretty good, you can get a song from that cd off epitonic.com. That was the first song that i heard and got me into Envy.

[NewKindofArmy03]

What's the best of the older Envy?

*has only ADSS*
This is all I have too, but everyone says it's their best. I was listening to them this morning, I love them more each time I do.

[BridgeToSolace]

This is all I have too, but everyone says it's their best. I was listening to them this morning, I love them more each time I do.

I like "All The Footsteps You've Ever Left And The Fear Expecting Ahead" and "The Eyes Of A Single Eared Prophet" much more.

I'm not sure why.

[NewKindofArmy03]

My friend has the split with Iscariote(who I never heard), I want to check that out next time I see him.

[BuddyBigsby]

See, I've heard from others that Footsteps is better.

[cbmartinez]

Their so epic and amazing. I finally heard some Kaospilot. It's good but I can't get into the vocals.

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah well they can't get into you either.

[cbmartinez]

Eff you Bigsby.

[Lowend]

misunderstanding of other post....

ignore

[leeroy123]

All of their cds are great.

[iEatHeartAttacks]

if you like orchid or pg.99.....ect

www.myspace.com/utarid

this band is seriously amazing...straight out of 1998 screamo. from malaysia.

[BuddyBigsby]

This looks very appetizing

http://www.noidearecords.com/bands/releases/combat_neon.html

[Sep]

I like the cover art.

[Sep]

Fear Before The March Of Flames, Circle Takes The Square, Transistor,Transistor and Breather Resist are touring together.

http://www.equalvision.com/splash/fbtmoftour/

[tornpictures]

I really prefer the newer (All the Footprints, A Dead Sinking Story, etc) stuff to the older.
Earlier songs are shorter, less epic and a little more generic than the later stuff.

[cbmartinez]

Fear Before The March Of Flames, Circle Takes The Square, Transistor,Transistor and Breather Resist are touring together.

http://www.equalvision.com/splash/fbtmoftour/

Old news. I'm seeing CTTS with The End and From A Second Story Window.

This looks very appetizing

http://www.noidearecords.com/bands/releases/combat_neon.html

Not to compare the two bands, but the cover art looks too much like He Is Legend's CD.

[DFelon204409]

So I got The Curtain Falls, no thanks to people IMing me. It's sweetness. I definitely dig the love quadrangle between Saetia, Hot Cross, You and I, and Neil Perry. Pentangle if Joshua Fit for Battle is included but I forget.

[cbmartinez]

In/Humanity- "Super Plan B" (http://www.coalition-records.com/mp3/InHumanity-Your_Future_lies_smoldering-Super%20Plan%20B.mp3)

[cbmartinez]

Actually, that's one of their milder songs. I wish they would put more of their stuff on the internet. Whatever, just search for them on Soulseek.

[DFelon204409]

Didn't like it. Too repetitive and unengaging.

[cbmartinez]

Yeah, upon further review, that song sucks.

[DFelon204409]

Haha. Upon further review, baking pot brownies doesn't suck.

[PlasticGangster]

ctts should hit up the west coast.

[leeroy123]

****, CTTS and Fear are about 2 hours away from but me i found out too late. :upset:

[Wow]

Haha. Upon further review, baking pot brownies doesn't suck.


Pot muffins are better.

[BuddyBigsby]

ctts should hit up the west coast.

They were supposed to come out here next month with HORSE the Band and The Number Twelve Looks Like You but apparently their drummer left or something, but either way it fell through.

[PlasticGangster]

er
i heard about that.

[tornpictures]

So I got The Curtain Falls, no thanks to people IMing me. It's sweetness. I definitely dig the love quadrangle between Saetia, Hot Cross, You and I, and Neil Perry. Pentangle if Joshua Fit for Battle is included but I forget.

If you like those bands, check out A Petal Fallen, Take Down Your Art, The Holy ****ing Spirit, Ampere.

[DFelon204409]

Yessir!

[chips88]

http://www2.vans.com/warpedBB/viewtopic.php?t=112

:eek: intelligence outside of this thread and fourfa on emo!!

[cbmartinez]

Hold the phone, that seems to be the exact list we compiled in the MUST READ thread posted by a kid who also posts on here.

[DFelon204409]

Hold the phone, that seems to be the exact list we compiled in the MUST READ thread posted by a kid who also posts on here.

Ya. It's true. Also, Comadre is a local band only I know about so when people just copy and paste, I am aware.

[pixiesfanyo]

You should post some Comadre.

Dfelon who's the band playing in your Myspace?

[cbmartinez]

Comadre commented on his myspace, if you go to their myspace you can hear them. Dfelon, you know some fine ladies.

[pixiesfanyo]

it's because he lifts weights cb.

[cbmartinez]

Hahaha, I could tell from that picture.

[DFelon204409]

You should post some Comadre.

Dfelon who's the band playing in your Myspace?

It's Gruvis Malt. The song is called "Fists of Protocol." You can download a bunch of free songs from their official site. Google them.

Also, those pics were from before I started lifting. I know ladies because when I'm not on the forum, I play my game. You guys just masturbate.

[pixiesfanyo]

You guys just masturbate.

To those ladies.

[Nick43543]

hey, i'm new here...this thread is pretty cool...anyways, u guys seem 2 hav some disagreements with fourfa on the whole "emocore"/"emo" thing...if they are one and the same, then what would u call the bands he classifies as emocore, like Dag Nasty, Hot Water Music, etc.?

[BridgeToSolace]

Hold the phone, that seems to be the exact list we compiled in the MUST READ thread posted by a kid who also posts on here.

And someone mentioned popcore....

"Or UnderOATH popcore."

[frmautumTOashes]

Wow, people who call underoath popcore are ****ing idiots. Yeah their new stuff is poppier, but if you listen to their old stuff it's definately metalcore. Their new album sounds nothing like the first two. Stop trying to be music leet by lumping all the popular bands into "pop" genres.

[BridgeToSolace]

Only if you stop listening to From Autumn To Ashes.

[seriousness\]
Most people know Underoath by their new stuff, so, generally, when they are spoken about, They're Only Chasing Safety is the album they are judged by. Along with that, it takes too long to type "Popcore(newer stuff)Metalcore(older stuff)" when labeling a band.

Plus, Underoath is almost entirely a new band now from their old stuff. Their and a member or two or really the only things that still tie them to their metalcore days.

[frmautumTOashes]

alright, yeah I would agree with they're only chasing safety being popcore. the same thing happened with hopesfall, there's only 1 or 2 people left from the original band, and now they suck. they were one of my favorite bands too.

[BuddyBigsby]

They don't suck, you suck. It's called change. Deal with it.

[deadohiosky9]

They don't suck, you suck. It's called change. Deal with it.

Dam.n straight.

[DFelon204409]

Wow, people who call underoath popcore are ****ing idiots. Yeah their new stuff is poppier, but if you listen to their old stuff it's definately metalcore. Their new album sounds nothing like the first two. Stop trying to be music leet by lumping all the popular bands into "pop" genres.

This argument already happened at around page 40 in the thread. Guess who won?

[tornpictures]

hey, i'm new here...this thread is pretty cool...anyways, u guys seem 2 hav some disagreements with fourfa on the whole "emocore"/"emo" thing...if they are one and the same, then what would u call the bands he classifies as emocore, like Dag Nasty, Hot Water Music, etc.?

I think that whole 'emocore' section is stretching it.

Hot Water Music are a pop-punk band, as are Jawbreaker, Samiam, Lifetime.

Dag Nasty are just plain hardcore.

[ALLP YO]

Lifetime don't really seem to have any emo in them, and Jawbreaker sound like pop-punk to me. I don't think you'd call Hot Water Music pop-punk though.

[leeroy123]

Yeah, ive always considered hot water music emo.

[ALLP YO]

They're not straight emo. I'm not sure what they are.

[SpecialBoy]

Erm, vaginacore?

[ALLP YO]

pen0rcore.

[_Alexisonfire_]

What would you recommend for me to listen? I like poppy stuff like Alexisonfire, From First To Last, A Static Lullaby, and Saosin , but I'm into the Fall Of Troy ( my favorite band ) ForDireLifeSake, Hot Cross, ATDI, The Kinison, a bit of Converge... Any bands you know that might follow those lines?

Oh, and where could I find The Fall Of Troy songs? I've only I Got This Symphony Goin', Ghostship pt. 4 and Rockstar Nailbomb... I also heard Tom Waits from their site, along with another I don't remember.

And what would you classify ATDI under? Post-emo indie rock?

[BridgeToSolace]

What would you recommend for me to listen? I like poppy stuff like Alexisonfire, From First To Last, A Static Lullaby, and Saosin , but I'm into the Fall Of Troy ( my favorite band ) ForDireLifeSake, Hot Cross, ATDI, The Kinison, a bit of Converge... Any bands you know that might follow those lines?

Oh, and where could I find The Fall Of Troy songs? I've only I Got This Symphony Goin', Ghostship pt. 4 and Rockstar Nailbomb... I also heard Tom Waits from their site, along with another I don't remember.

IM me on AIM and I'll send you Fall Of Troy. ibleedtheskyi

Other stuff you might like: The Prisoner's Dilemma, Across Five Aprils, Broken Horizon, Plans For Revenge, Circa Survive (Anthony Greens new band. I've got their EP :D ), Glory Of This, A Thorn For Every Heart, Albert React, No Hollywood Ending, When Reason Sleeps, Yesterday's Rising, The Tokyo Smash, A taste For Murder, Anthym, The Sound Of Animals Fighting, Before Today, Beloved, Life In Your Way, Nor Am I, Scary Kids Scaring Kids, The Pheonix Rising, The Receiving End Sirens.

Some of that's probably a stretch, I was going for that "Pop-punk + some heaviness thing" Most of them have purevolumes. I've got most of their full albums or EPs, AIM for that too.

[leeroy123]

Try some Envy, Ghosts(formery an embrace of angels) is pretty good too, A Day in Black and White, Saetia, Trophy Scars, oh and Richard Cheese :thumb:

[BridgeToSolace]

Try some Envy, Ghosts(formery an embrace of angels) is pretty good too, A Day in Black and White, Saetia, Trophy Scars, oh and Richard Cheese :thumb:

An Embrace Of Angels is awesome. Ghosts is meh, from what I've heard.

[cbmartinez]

The Receiving End Sirens.

*The Receiving End Of Sirens

/bitch ++

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

Envy are soooo good. Japanese screamo, I love it.

[DFelon204409]

I think that whole 'emocore' section is stretching it.

Hot Water Music are a pop-punk band, as are Jawbreaker, Samiam, Lifetime.

Dag Nasty are just plain hardcore.

Ya, whenever I recommended that site back in the day I'd have a disclaimer about ignorign the emocore section. That's as if you're adding more "-core" to emotional hardcore, which first of all is redundant, and secondly would not result in Samiam and Hot Water Music. It would result in something like screamo. People are idiots though.

[BuddyBigsby]

*The Receiving End Of Sirens

/bitch ++

I used to talk to this stupid chick on AIM that lives in Massachusetts, and she was friends with their singer. I don't know if they still are, but she showed me them when they first got together and they sounded like a complete GlassJAw wannabe. Apparently he punched her too. Normally I'm against stuff like that but once again she was a stupid whore so it's cool.

[cbmartinez]

I enjoy them. They're coming around here sometime soon.

[Nick43543]

cool, thanks to all who answered my question...btw dfelon, i saw u mention earlier on the thread that fourfa has the evolution of emo after 1994 all wrong...would u care 2 elaborate?

[corycamefalling]

is anyone into the saddest landscape? that is definitely emo.

[sink sink]

In regards to bands like Underoath and Hawthorne Heights, a DJ around here called them "mainscream." Thought that was nifty.

[corycamefalling]

i hate hate hate hate hate hawthorne heights.

[YDload]

i hate hate hate hate hate hawthorne heights.

I see them all the time on that commercial for Victory records, where the singer looks like he's about to cry as he yelps "I can't make on my own/ cause my heart is inohwahyeah" or whatever.

[DFelon204409]

cool, thanks to all who answered my question...btw dfelon, i saw u mention earlier on the thread that fourfa has the evolution of emo after 1994 all wrong...would u care 2 elaborate?

Umm. Samiam isn't emo. Hot Water Music isn't emo. Where's the information about Saetia? Stuff like that.

[corycamefalling]

I see them all the time on that commercial for Victory records, where the singer looks like he's about to cry as he yelps "I can't make on my own/ cause my heart is inohwahyeah" or whatever.

of all the bands in that genre full of clones, hawthorne heights became huge, amazing. i really couldnt believe it.

[BuddyBigsby]

There's this pseudo-emo kid that works in the stock room of the store I work at. Every time I'm back there he's blasting the new Underoath or Hawthorne Heights. We talked once:

"That's new Underoath, isn't it?"
"yeah"
"Eww"

*walks away*

[corycamefalling]

the only thing worse than a pseudo-metal kid is pseudo-emo kid

[BuddyBigsby]

pseudo-metal kids are at least funny. pseudo-emo kids are boring.

[Nick43543]

Umm. Samiam isn't emo. Hot Water Music isn't emo. Where's the information about Saetia? Stuff like that.
i see

[DFelon204409]

There's this pseudo-emo kid that works in the stock room of the store I work at. Every time I'm back there he's blasting the new Underoath or Hawthorne Heights. We talked once:

"That's new Underoath, isn't it?"
"yeah"
"Eww"

*walks away*

First of all New Underoath > Anal Fisting > Hawthorne Heights.

Second, give him Thrice. He's too stupid to know the difference.

[FFTLgirl]

My chemical romance
from first to last
underoath

some bands you should hear!

[DFelon204409]

My chemical romance
from first to last
underoath

some bands you should hear!

No. Not at all.

[_Alexisonfire_]

IM me on AIM and I'll send you Fall Of Troy. ibleedtheskyi

Other stuff you might like: The Prisoner's Dilemma, Across Five Aprils, Broken Horizon, Plans For Revenge, Circa Survive (Anthony Greens new band. I've got their EP :D ), Glory Of This, A Thorn For Every Heart, Albert React, No Hollywood Ending, When Reason Sleeps, Yesterday's Rising, The Tokyo Smash, A taste For Murder, Anthym, The Sound Of Animals Fighting, Before Today, Beloved, Life In Your Way, Nor Am I, Scary Kids Scaring Kids, The Pheonix Rising, The Receiving End Sirens.

Some of that's probably a stretch, I was going for that "Pop-punk + some heaviness thing" Most of them have purevolumes. I've got most of their full albums or EPs, AIM for that too.

Thanks a lot! and Leeroy too, I'm definitely gonna check out these bands. :thumb:

[Wow]

My chemical romance
from first to last
underoath

some bands you should hear!


failure!

[_Alexisonfire_]

of all the bands in that genre full of clones, hawthorne heights became huge, amazing. i really couldnt believe it.

Here, Alexisonfire is really the big thing... And every pseudo-emo knows Atreyu and From Autumn To Ashes. :rolleyes:

My chemical romance
from first to last
underoath

some bands you should hear!

I think FFTL is a great band, especially live, but this isn't the thread for them. :wave:

[BuddyBigsby]

This kid is cool.

[_Alexisonfire_]

me? :confused:

I've started digging up the bands I've been suggested, and OMG it'refreshing to breathe into some new sounds. I've been listening to the same bands over and over with my friends for a long time now... The Prisoner's Dilemma is definitely nice, Plans for Revenge as well, I already knew acrossfiveaprils, and I really like Circa Survive... Is this Anthony Green's third band? He was in Saosin and the Sound of Animals Fighting, right?

[BuddyBigsby]

Usually the kids that listen to bands like Alexisonfire, etc. are complete morons. You're all jiggy.

[RetiredAt21]

That's not true. Don't be a moron. But Alexisonfire sucks.

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

I like Alexisonfire. They put on a great show.

[frmautumTOashes]

My chemical romance
from first to last
underoath

some bands you should hear!

really? cool, I'll have to check those bands out!!! :rolleyes:

alexisonfire is really good though. I like George's style of screaming. He doesn't grunt like in metalcore. There's no emotion in that type of screaming. The vocals in bands like FATA and Atreyu getting annoying sometimes. Yeah, I know my user name is FATA, but I'm starting to not like them as much.

[_Alexisonfire_]

That's not true. Don't be a moron. But Alexisonfire sucks.

No, imposing your opinions like they're absolute sucks. :thumb:

I'm really loving Yesterday's Rising.

really? cool, I'll have to check those bands out!!! :rolleyes:

alexisonfire is really good though. I like George's style of screaming. He doesn't grunt like in metalcore. There's no emotion in that type of screaming. The vocals in bands like FATA and Atreyu getting annoying sometimes. Yeah, I know my user name is FATA, but I'm starting to not like them as much.

Lol I noticed your roll eyes icon just in time, I was gonna say NO those aren't emo/screamo :angry:

And yeah Alexisonfire puts on quite a show live, you'd think George would look stupid in all those parts where there's no screaming but he's always doing something funny... though there's not really any emotion in his screaming, it's kinda always the same. Doesn't keep me from loving it :)

[BuddyBigsby]

That's not true. Don't be a moron. But Alexisonfire sucks.

Notice I said usually.

Look around this thread and tell me I'm wrong.

[pixiesfanyo]

Guys you all really need to check out Taking Back Sunday.

They are so hardcore.

[_Alexisonfire_]

Oh man, dashboard confessional are the real definiton of emo... If you want real emo you can cry on, then dashboard is for you

/Is crying right now, the simple fact of mentionning Dashboard Confessional made me so emo I'm sad right now and slitting my wrists

/sarcasm

[Nick Morzov]

Ah, the first of the ignorant. *draws sword*

draw's sword? hey, this isn't dungeons and dragons... sheathe your sword man, we are men of music, not war!

[Nick Morzov]

Guys you all really need to check out Taking Back Sunday.

They are so hardcore.

hey man taking back sunday has a record deal and you don't... just a thought :thumb:

[DFelon204409]

hey man taking back sunday has a record deal and you don't... just a thought :thumb:

Britney Spears has a record deal as well. She probably even has a record label at this point. That doesn't mean anything. Also, most of the people on this board are more musically accomplished than anybody in Taking Back Sunday.

[YDload]

Britney Spears has a record deal as well. She probably even has a record label at this point. That doesn't mean anything. Also, most of the people on this board are more musically accomplished than anybody in Taking Back Sunday.

Yeah, I've never heard from the bassist in TBS, but I'm probably better than him. I can play "Freewill" by Rush so there! :mad:

[BuddyBigsby]

Britney Spears has a record deal as well. She probably even has a record label at this point. That doesn't mean anything. Also, most of the people on this board are more musically accomplished than anybody in Taking Back Sunday.

I was going to use William Hung as an example.

[DFelon204409]

Actually, the bassist is the best part of Taking Back Sunday I think. He may have some cool lines. I can't really remember.

Hey! Anybody want to send me You and I's discography. I already have The Curtain Falls and I'm going to review it as well.

[DFelon204409]

I was going to use William Hung as an example.

Well, he's obviously a joke. It makes it all the more tragic that people try to play Britney Spears off as a serious artist.

[tornpictures]

Umm. Samiam isn't emo. Hot Water Music isn't emo. Where's the information about Saetia? Stuff like that.

Saetia came after the whole 'emo' wave, actually.

[Wow]

Yeah and they are mentioned on the site, just not in as much detail as others.

[Nick Morzov]

i'm not saying anything about musical skill. The fact that a dumb b1tch like britney spears should tell you something about making music. Besides she's just an image of what the Record producer makes. It's harder to make melodies that EVERYONE will like... let's put it this way music is part skill and part creativity... just because it's simple doesn't make it bad.

[DFelon204409]

i'm not saying anything about musical skill. The fact that a dumb b1tch like britney spears should tell you something about making music. Besides she's just an image of what the Record producer makes. It's harder to make melodies that EVERYONE will like... let's put it this way music is part skill and part creativity... just because it's simple doesn't make it bad.

I agree. Aklaline Trio and Damien Rice are two bands who are amazing with simplicity. Taking Back Sunday is definitely not.

[Nick Morzov]

I agree. Aklaline Trio and Damien Rice are two bands who are amazing with simplicity. Taking Back Sunday is definitely not.
That's called opinon.

[DFelon204409]

That's called opinon.

Hahahaha. That's the worst argument ever. You're on a message board. Of course 95% of the things people post here are mere opinion. The difference between my opinion and yours is that I have proven to be educated and have strong reasons for my choices, whereas you're a n00b who likes Taking Back Sunday. How about you give solid reasons if you want cred here.

[Nick Morzov]

Hahahaha. That's the worst argument ever. You're on a message board. Of course 95% of the things people post here are mere opinion. The difference between my opinion and yours is that I have proven to be educated and have strong reasons for my choices, whereas you're a n00b who likes Taking Back Sunday. How about you give solid reasons if you want cred here.
Because instead of trying to look cool in knowing bands that nobody likes. I'm not afraid to put myself out there and say "yeah they're good". Honestly man there are worse things out there than a blow to your ego. The fact that you're arguing with me proves that i struck a nerve somewhere... Educated? I didn't know there was an actual school of rock? You must be a good student in your hardcore class. The fact that you don't like Taking Back Sunday doesn't make you smarter than me, nor more sophisticated. Maybe you need to go back to school... :thumb:

[maggot4875]

hehehehehehehehehehehehehe heh he h

wtf?that was just completely pointless

[BuddyBigsby]

Uh-oh, this one's gonna be bad.

*dives into saloon*

[cbmartinez]

So I just found Number 12 got added to the CTTS show in Montclair. And then my parents told me I CAN'T ****ING GO.

[Nick Morzov]

So I just found Number 12 got added to the CTTS show in Montclair. And then my parents told me I CAN'T ****ING GO.
That's why you must kill them :evil:

[Nick Morzov]

Hey buddybigsby... that is qute the avitar you have there... it makes me feel so... small...

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah, it's pointing towards the interstate, go walk over there and check it out.

[BridgeToSolace]

Is this Anthony Green's third band? He was in Saosin and the Sound of Animals Fighting, right?

Other bands Anthony Green has had anything to do with, that I know of.

Zolof The Rock And Roll Destroyer (Used to do vocals, I've heard)
Jeer At Rome (Meh-ish metalcore bands. Great screams, though. They've only got a four song demo, methinks)
Audience Of One (His highschool band, or one of his first, anyway)
High And Driving (They've got a sweet demo out)
A Trunk Full Of Dead Bodies (he' done some screaming on one of their albums, or so I've heard)

Thats off the top of my head, might be a few more.

I really glad you like the suggestions, though.


Hey! Anybody want to send me You and I's discography. I already have The Curtain Falls and I'm going to review it as well.

I've got the first fifteen tracks, if you want them.

[DFelon204409]

Because instead of trying to look cool in knowing bands that nobody likes. I'm not afraid to put myself out there and say "yeah they're good". Honestly man there are worse things out there than a blow to your ego. The fact that you're arguing with me proves that i struck a nerve somewhere... Educated? I didn't know there was an actual school of rock? You must be a good student in your hardcore class. The fact that you don't like Taking Back Sunday doesn't make you smarter than me, nor more sophisticated. Maybe you need to go back to school... :thumb:

Haha. I'm not afraid to put myself out there for any band. If you are going as far as making the comment "I'm not afraid to put myself out there and say, 'yeah they're good,'" you're acknowledging that they're looked down upon. I'm not protecting an ego. I will admit to any song I listen to. The worst being K-Ci and JoJo's "All My Life," and Skee-Lo's "I Wish." It takes 0 balls to admit about liking music that many look down upon. What takes balls is admitting you're wrong. You're quite wrong. Grow some balls and come back when you either have dumped Taking Back Sunday, or you can admit you're an idiot for liking them.

[Nick Morzov]

Haha. I'm not afraid to put myself out there for any band. If you are going as far as making the comment "I'm not afraid to put myself out there and say, 'yeah they're good,'" you're acknowledging that they're looked down upon. I'm not protecting an ego. I will admit to any song I listen to. The worst being K-Ci and JoJo's "All My Life," and Skee-Lo's "I Wish." It takes 0 balls to admit about liking music that many look down upon. What takes balls is admitting you're wrong. You're quite wrong. Grow some balls and come back when you either have dumped Taking Back Sunday, or you can admit you're an idiot for liking them.
Look i don't know why you're ANGRY with me for liking a band. I am entitled to my opinion and you to yours. I could use the same argument against you about K-Ci and JoJo but I'm not going to. No, I'm not wrong, nor am I right. This isn't about what band I like... this is about you trying to win the argument. So I'm going to stop arguing with you because you're too closed minded to really see what I mean. There's a reason why they have a record contract and it's not because they suck sir (and don't compare them to Britney Spears because that is a fallacy). This is also quite a waste of time and effort on both our parts. I'm going to continue to like Taking Back Sunday and you can continue being a d*ck that thinks his sh*t doesn't stink. :wave:

[RetiredAt21]

Taking Back Sunday isn't all that bad. There is far worse out there DFelon204409...if you disagree, then I guess that means you'd rather listen to stuff like: Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys, etc...

[Nick Morzov]

Taking Back Sunday isn't all that bad. There is far worse out there DFelon204409...if you disagree, then I guess that means you'd rather listen to stuff like: Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys, etc...
thank you

[RetiredAt21]

We're probably gonna get flamed for making fun of a mod. Everyone will take his side, just watch.

[Nick Morzov]

We're probably gonna get flamed for making fun of a mod. Everyone will take his side, just watch.
Whatever just because he's a mod doesn't take away from the fact that he's human and a d0uch3 :evil:

[BuddyBigsby]

yah omg hes a dik

[corycamefalling]

Actually, the bassist is the best part of Taking Back Sunday I think. He may have some cool lines. I can't really remember.

Hey! Anybody want to send me You and I's discography. I already have The Curtain Falls and I'm going to review it as well.

i've got it, slsk: corycamefalling, aim: corycamefalling

[Nick Morzov]

yah omg hes a dik

You'd think a mod would be more accepting and less confrontational... I may be a noob but that doesn't mean I'm not a respectable person... I wonder if he's even in a band?

[Bartender]

..(and don't compare them to Britney Spears because that is a fallacy).

How?

[Davio El Dwarfo]

Taking Back Sunday are the best emo band out there. I love how they express so much emotion through three chord pop punk and screaming.

[Nick Morzov]

How?
Because the manner in which she got her record label is different. In that genre of music you just have to suck a lot of c0000k whereas taking back Sunday’s genre... I mean even the fact that they're a band makes a HUGE difference... you can't suck c0ck to make it big if you're male let's put it that way... i'm just using sucking c0ck as an example... that may be the way it goes but i'm sure taking back sunday has more talent then Britney spears will ever have...

[Bartender]

You're taking it too literally. You used the line "they have a record deal" as an argument not to say they're crap. Plenty of bad bands have had, and do have, record deals. It's a perfectly valid comparison.

[Nick Morzov]

You're taking it too literally. You used the line "they have a record deal" as an argument not to say they're crap. Plenty of bad bands have had, and do have, record deals. It's a perfectly valid comparison.
I don't think so... but my main point was defending a band I like because that's my opinion. Then this guy says shut up that band sucks while using his opinion as an argument. Using the same example in different words to further your argument is a fallacy (Britney Spears)... it's like saying "your chocolate cake is not cake because my vanilla one is" if that makes sense... He's also assuming that the credibility of britney spears as an artist is poor but how does he really know? Not all pop stars are Idiots... but i think he might be right on the assumption that Ms. Spears is an airhead. :D

[Bartender]

First, forget that he mentioned Britney Spears by name. It's just an example to illustrate a point, so don't appeal to facts specific to her.

You might want to try again formulating "it's like saying "your chocolate cake is not cake because my vanilla one is" if that makes sense", because I have no idea what you mean :)

[Nick Morzov]

Taking Back Sunday are the best emo band out there. I love how they express so much emotion through three chord pop punk and screaming.
I think a lot of it has to do with the vocals. That's usually people's first impression of a band... it's sad but not a lot of people really listen to the music as anything but background music :(

[Davio El Dwarfo]

I was actually kidding, but yeah - it's generally musicians that pick up on how genuinely good a band is.

I don't like TBS's vocals much, but they write catchy tunes. That's a skill in itself.

[Nick Morzov]

First, forget that he mentioned Britney Spears by name. It's just an example to illustrate a point, so don't appeal to facts specific to her.

You might want to try again formulating "it's like saying "your chocolate cake is not cake because my vanilla one is" if that makes sense", because I have no idea what you mean :)
haha ok. He's using an artist he thinks sucks in comparison to my argument about record deals, but he's making the same argument as me and assuming that everyone can relate to the fact that they suck. I'm not saying that argument is wrong really but logically it doesn't make sense. Going back to my cake to help you make sense of it. He's trying to make my cake sound like it's bad by using an other cake that is also bad as an example. I'm sorry for the confusion about it... it was really tough explaining in words my logic.. it may still not make sense, which is no big deal I don't really care anymore... Taking back Sunday is a great band and nobody is going to tell me otherwise, that's my opinion and i'm entitled to it.

[Nick Morzov]

I was actually kidding, but yeah - it's generally musicians that pick up on how genuinely good a band is.

I don't like TBS's vocals much, but they write catchy tunes. That's a skill in itself.
Yeah exactly... I personally like Taking Back Sunday's vocals but that's just me... possibly their fans... a few others.. :D

[RetiredAt21]

I've no problem with their vocals either.

[Nick Morzov]

Here's a new topic because I'm sick of talking about taking back sunday. I really like the used, hence my avitar. They're my main fluence and i can't get enough of their music. I saw them at the wiltern in October and they were AWESOME

[Bartender]

haha ok. He's using an artist he thinks sucks in comparison to my argument about record deals, but he's making the same argument as me and assuming that everyone can relate to the fact that they suck.

The specific proper noun is just an example, though, rather than specifying whatever variable is being talked about.

I'm not saying that argument is wrong really but logically it doesn't make sense.

Logically is the way it does make sense..you said that he (or cb, or whoever it was) couldn't say they were bad, because they have a record deal, and he pointed out that it's possible for a bad band to have a record deal, and so it doesn't logically follow that having a record deal implies a good band. It's a classic counterexample argument.

Going back to my cake to help you make sense of it. He's trying to make my cake sound like it's bad by using an other cake that is also bad as an example.

His argument wasn't a standalone thing of "X has a record deal, and X is bad, therefore record deal = bad", it was a response to your contention that record deal = good. He was saying that having a record deal doesn't mean they're good, not that it means they are bad. Important difference.

Taking back Sunday is a great band and nobody is going to tell me otherwise, that's my opinion and i'm entitled to it.

Yeah, practically everything on a forum with a topic such as music is going to be opinion. But to back out of or attempt to end every discussion or argument with "well it's just my opinion"..well, it's a cop-out, so to speak.

[Nick Morzov]

The specific proper noun is just an example, though, rather than specifying whatever variable is being talked about.



Logically is the way it does make sense..you said that he (or cb, or whoever it was) couldn't say they were bad, because they have a record deal, and he pointed out that it's possible for a bad band to have a record deal, and so it doesn't logically follow that having a record deal implies a good band. It's a classic counterexample argument.



His argument wasn't a standalone thing of "X has a record deal, and X is bad, therefore record deal = bad", it was a response to your contention that record deal = good. He was saying that having a record deal doesn't mean they're good, not that it means they are bad. Important difference.



Yeah, practically everything on a forum with a topic such as music is going to be opinion. But to back out of or attempt to end every discussion or argument with "well it's just my opinion"..well, it's a cop-out, so to speak.
thats really what it comes down to though... plus i didn't really want to get into an argument about how he thinks the music i like sucks... i really don't give a ****... what irritates me is he's attacking something that defines me as an individual and when people see that they're hesitant to post THEIR own opinion... especially if he's a mod. My argument with the record deal was it's tough to get a record deal regardless of the signin company. It requres time dedication and SOME skill. Even if pop stars do get record deals there are still reasons why they have them and it's not because people don't like their music. Most pop stars are products of high end producers who want a lot of money. I'm not sure how it went but when a producer came across britney spears or any pop star out there for that matter they didn't see too much talent, whereas Taking Back Sunday... I don't think the producer saw them and instantly there were money signs in his eyes... understand my argument was fairly general though.

[YDload]

Taking Back Sunday isn't all that bad. There is far worse out there DFelon204409...if you disagree, then I guess that means you'd rather listen to stuff like: Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys, etc...

NO STOP WRONG SHUT UP FAGGOT

"if you disagree, then I guess that means you'd rather..." No, shut up right there. You do NOT start making assumptions about someone else's music preferences just because they don't like your favorite pop-punk-but-everyone-calls-them-emo band. This is the equivalent of comparing someone to Hitler in a political debate; you don't bring up boy bands just for the sake of trying to make your musical taste appear superior. DFelon has mentioned the bands he likes thousands of times in this forum, and they all display a degree of skill and creativity more prevalent than Taking Back Sunday.

...unless that post was just some sort of joke. It's hard to tell on the Internet, so I'll have to assume the worst.

[Nick Morzov]

NO STOP WRONG SHUT UP FAGGOT

"if you disagree, then I guess that means you'd rather..." No, shut up right there. You do NOT start making assumptions about someone else's music preferences just because they don't like your favorite pop-punk-but-everyone-calls-them-emo band. This is the equivalent of comparing someone to Hitler in a political debate; you don't bring up boy bands just for the sake of trying to make your musical taste appear superior. DFelon has mentioned the bands he likes thousands of times in this forum, and they all display a degree of skill and creativity more prevalent than Taking Back Sunday.

...unless that post was just some sort of joke. It's hard to tell on the Internet, so I'll have to assume the worst.
Holy CRAP i don't even really like them THAT much, i was just trying to prove a point that not everyone has to like hardcore to be cool. That was a poor assumption on his part, but try and have a little more class when you make a point... don't sound so angry or use vulgarities like "faggot" when you make statements. That has nothing to do with music at all so leave gender identities out of it. It'll make you look a lot better too. Let's end this on a nice note because i don't want this to sound like I'm angry with you. What instrument do you play?

[corycamefalling]

i like tbs, but i think you're in over your head. just stop. and for the record, the used are terrible.

[Nick Morzov]

i like tbs, but i think you're in over your head. just stop. and for the record, the used are terrible.
How is this any of your business? If you don't like reading my posts then block me. Congradulations on kissing the *** of the mod... did it taste good? :naughty:

[Nick Morzov]

And as for the comment about the used:

(_)_)========D~~

-suck it

[YDload]

I thought you didn't like vulgarities. :rolleyes:

[Nick Morzov]

did you feel left out?

(_)_)=======D~~

[Bartender]

Holy CRAP i don't even really like them THAT much, i was just trying to prove a point that not everyone has to like hardcore to be cool...

Don't you think it might help in a Hardcore forum?

[Nick Morzov]

Don't you think it might help in a Hardcore forum?
Only if you're concerned with reputation.

[Rico-drummer]

Anybody here like Underoath? I think they are pretty sweet.
I love underoath,They're awesome!!!

[BridgeToSolace]

Only if you're concerned with reputation*.

*Not looking like an idiot.

It makes no sense to go into a hardcore/emo forum if you don't like either genre.

[pixiesfanyo]

The Used are the O-Town of Pop-punk.

[Nick Morzov]

*Not looking like an idiot.

It makes no sense to go into a hardcore/emo forum if you don't like either genre.
I do like both genre's I just don't care about my rep. Would you like me to draw you a picture?

(_)_)========D~~~

does that help?

[Nick Morzov]

The Used are the O-Town of Pop-punk.
was that supposed to be a compliment or an insult? :confused:

[Nick Morzov]

I think the used would fall under screamo... but their lyrics aren't usually about emo topics... so i'm not sure what to think.

[Wow]

I think the used would fall under screamo... but their lyrics aren't usually about emo topics... so i'm not sure what to think.


The used are pop-punk. Read the ****ing thread.

[Bartender]

Yeah. And I'm still not sure why he started talking about reputation.

[RetiredAt21]

We can't even rep people anymore, which I think is kind of stupid.

[corycamefalling]

I think the used would fall under screamo... but their lyrics aren't usually about emo topics... so i'm not sure what to think.

if only you had any idea what screamo is. you really should just stop, your opinions are obviously not credible. feel free to share them once you've learned a thing or two.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, just because a band has a singer that screams from time to time, doesn't make them screamo.

[SGlove]

C'mon now, suck it? Are you in the Eighth Grade?

What's with this Morov guy's obession with penises?
Freud would say he has issues.

[DFelon204409]

Whoa. A lot has happened in this thread since I was last here. To clarify Morzov, The Used aren't screamo. They aren't emo. They aren't much of anything. They are pop punk to the knowing, popcore to the generous. Emo and screamo are both genres of music that The Used are not a part of. Let's take The Used's new single (the one with the crappy wannabe vaudeville/goth style video), or any other song of theirs for that matter. Listen to the beat. That is a pop punk. The only songs I can find on either CD that stray from the pop beat are "A Box Full of Sharp Objects" and "Maybe Memories," which are actually sorta cool as songs. Then take the guitar. They play simple chord progressions like pop punk bands instead of the often baroque instrumentation of real emo bands and on top of that may throw in an octave melody that revolves around the root, third, and fifth of whatever chord is going on at the moment, which is a far shot from the crazy and sometimes atonal harmonizing of emo octave harmonies. How about the bass. On most emo/screamo songs I can think of, the bass is either rocking out with non-tonic harmonies or is there to create chaos and din, but in The Used's songs, all I'm hearing is root-position harmonies, and no chaos, which is a stable of emo and screamo as genres. Then, the most obvious betrayal of The Used's true genre: the vocals. Bert does this thing called singing. He does it with a whining, noisome voice, and he does it often. Real emo bands will shout, scream, growl, cry, sing, or do whatever it takes to emote whatever emotion they want to broadcast to their audience. Bert does not do this. He sings often in a straight forward way and occasionally screams in a stale repeated fashion. This pattern is unlike any emo/screamo bands because they scream/shout whatever all the time and usually only use singing as a last ditch for melodic input but still rasp their voices tremendously to follow suit with the other more abrasive vocals. And what is he singing about? Bert is singing about saccharine emotions of teen angst, that are geared towards that market of people. His lyrics aren't legitimately and respectably poetic like that of for example, Circle Takes the Square, so his lyrics can't really be considered "emo" like you've labelled them as. See, The Used aren't really any emo or screamo band as I've roughly laid out for you in this post. So, what I don't get is why you're obstinately attacking people from your ignorant perspective who are much more educated than you. You have proven to nearly everybody here that you don't understand emo/screamo. Nobody cares for your take on emo/screamo. It's just because it's wrong. Up in your brain, you've got it all worked out ('teh used has 2 be sk33m0 cuz they scream about emotons!' is what I imagine it's working out to be), but your take on it goes contrary to all history, evolution, musical theory, and general common sense surrounding the genre of emo. If you can't figure that out, you have no place in this forum.

[DFelon204409]

Your take on emo goes contrary to all history, evolution, musical theory, and general common sense surrounding the genre of emo. If you can't figure that out, you have no place in this forum.

Quoted for brevity.

[Wow]

That was, without a doubt, the best verbal schooling I have ever seen.

[dislocated214]

I think the Used is power-pop.

[Nick Morzov]

You're right, maybe I don't know everything there is to know about the genre, but nowhere in there did you give a solid definition of emo/ screamo, (don't compare it to some other band because that would leave it up to interpretation and there'd be confusion in that one). If there is no solid definition to the genre maybe you should poll the members of the forum. What better defines a genre than its fans right? In the event that after all of this the used still don't fall under emo or screamo, I won't stop liking them, but I will back down and apologize for my arguments. Say days ago is a pretty good song as well, also check out pieces mended... As for everyone else, I'm not talking about songs like "all that i've got" or whatever it is you saw on mtv last week... Try listening to the rest of the songs on the cds they're actually pretty good. THE drummer DOES do pop punk beats but at the same time adds flavor and variation. Which makes it easier to listen to. I know there are more hardcore bands out there than the used, but at the same time they are doing what they love and making a d*ckload of money for it... the used are making the music they want to make. I like them. So with that said i'm sorry for generalizing the genre, in tern don't generalize a band like the used... i seriously don't think bert is thinking i need sing in a certain way to keep my band in the pop punk genre... did you ever think that maybe that's just his voice? If you really think the used is that bad of a band... i like the sound... tell me more... what would be a good step up... not a HUGE step but more towards what you would consider respectable?

Thanks and sorry

Nick

[RetiredAt21]

*hug*

[DFelon204409]

You're right, maybe I don't know everything there is to know about the genre, but nowhere in there did you give a solid definition of emo/ screamo, (don't compare it to some other band because that would leave it up to interpretation and there'd be confusion in that one). If there is no solid definition to the genre maybe you should poll the members of the forum. What better defines a genre than its fans right? In the event that after all of this the used still don't fall under emo or screamo, I won't stop liking them, but I will back down and apologize for my arguments. Say days ago is a pretty good song as well, also check out pieces mended... As for everyone else, I'm not talking about songs like "all that i've got" or whatever it is you saw on mtv last week... Try listening to the rest of the songs on the cds they're actually pretty good. THE drummer DOES do pop punk beats but at the same time adds flavor and variation. Which makes it easier to listen to. I know there are more hardcore bands out there than the used, but at the same time they are doing what they love and making a d*ckload of money for it... the used are making the music they want to make. I like them. So with that said i'm sorry for generalizing the genre, in tern don't generalize a band like the used... i seriously don't think bert is thinking i need sing in a certain way to keep my band in the pop punk genre... did you ever think that maybe that's just his voice? If you really think the used is that bad of a band... i like the sound... tell me more... what would be a good step up... not a HUGE step but more towards what you would consider respectable?

Thanks and sorry

Nick

Giving a solid definition of emo is one of the things I've neglected to do as a mod. As a compensation I have a huge band list for each genre so you can listen and figure out for yourself what makes emo or screamo the way it is. Also, a genre is defined by its fans. Good Charlotte's fans think that they're punk, but Good Charlotte is just a stupid pop band. Their new song even has rapping on top of the pop. It's really weird. The fans don't always know best. Often the bands don't even know what type of music they're making (www.purevolume.com allows members to label themselves and tons of people who aren't emo/screamo label themselves as such).

I don't care about your thought on The Used. If you like them, yay for you. I've listened to all of their songs and know that they are not a band that interests me. I'm the one having the argument with you because I know what they're about, and it's not good to me. I'm not generalizing anything. In fact, you're the one generlizing by assuming I don't know anything about The Used.

[Nick Morzov]

Giving a solid definition of emo is one of the things I've neglected to do as a mod. As a compensation I have a huge band list for each genre so you can listen and figure out for yourself what makes emo or screamo the way it is. Also, a genre is defined by its fans. Good Charlotte's fans think that they're punk, but Good Charlotte is just a stupid pop band. Their new song even has rapping on top of the pop. It's really weird. The fans don't always know best. Often the bands don't even know what type of music they're making (www.purevolume.com allows members to label themselves and tons of people who aren't emo/screamo label themselves as such).

I don't care about your thought on The Used. If you like them, yay for you. I've listened to all of their songs and know that they are not a band that interests me. I'm the one having the argument with you because I know what they're about, and it's not good to me. I'm not generalizing anything. In fact, you're the one generlizing by assuming I don't know anything about The Used.

i didn't mean you when i said generalizing... i didn't think you were at all, in fact you probably know more about them then i do... anyways what do you mean by "what they're about"? :confused:

[DFelon204409]

"know what they're about" = understand their genre, appeal, intended demographic, and mechanics of their music.

[Wow]

I missed the A Day In Black And White concert. I hate life.


Edit: I got the date wrong. I love life and cb.

[RetiredAt21]

Are you guys still arguing? Jeez, stop.

[BuddyBigsby]

I love it when n00bs think they can out-argue DFelon.

[SGlove]

That was beautiful man.

Has anyone heard any Appleseed Cast?
I haven't seen them mentioned around here recently. I wasn't sure if they were filed with Jawbreaker into the Pop-Punk or the emo and was forgotten about.

[BuddyBigsby]

Appleseed Cast were good.

[tornpictures]

Quoted for brevity.

There are lots of mistakes in your argument, you know.

[DFelon204409]

Please, torn, indulge me with your ultimate wisdom, so that I may never make an error in arguing again.

[srt-4]

The only songs I can find on either CD that stray from the pop beat are "A Box Full of Sharp Objects" and "Maybe Memories," which are actually sorta cool as songs.

the hidden track owns.

[Nick Morzov]

the hidden track owns.
yeah it does but it's not the best song on the cd. right now i think my fav on that cd is pices mended

[Nick Morzov]

Please, torn, indulge me with your ultimate wisdom, so that I may never make an error in arguing again.
Just when you think the ocean's settled, you get smaked in the face by an other wave...

[_Alexisonfire_]

There's not such thing as bad and good music. Everything comes down to opinion, and debating whether TBS is good or not is just a plain waste of my oxygen. Simplicity doesn't make something bad...

But bringing TBS (and The Used) in this thread was, in the first place, wrong.

Before posting keep one thing in mind: emo is NOT poppy. you will probably never (or very rarely, though we'll never hear that type of music on the media where I live) see emo on TV so forget underoath, the used, MCR and all of the likes.

Read at LEAST the first page of the thread, to see names of emo/screamo bands before you post (not wanting to flip through 70 pages of text can be understood, but NOT posting without getting your *** ripped open on the first page of the thread.) This doesn't look like a community thread anymore, it's a n00bie slugfest.

[Nick Morzov]

There's not such thing as bad and good music. Everything comes down to opinion, and debating whether TBS is good or not is just a plain waste of my oxygen. Simplicity doesn't make something bad...

But bringing TBS (and The Used) in this thread was, in the first place, wrong.

Before posting keep one thing in mind: emo is NOT poppy. you will probably never (or very rarely, though we'll never hear that type of music on the media where I live) see emo on TV so forget underoath, the used, MCR and all of the likes.

Read at LEAST the first page of the thread, to see names of emo/screamo bands before you post (not wanting to flip through 70 pages of text can be understood, but NOT posting without getting your *** ripped open on the first page of the thread.) This doesn't look like a community thread anymore, it's a n00bie slugfest.

There was really no need for that at all...

[corycamefalling]

I missed the A Day In Black And White concert. I hate life.


Edit: I got the date wrong. I love life and cb.

i saw them on tuesday, booyah!

[_Alexisonfire_]

There was really no need for that at all...
Yes there was. If you'd have taken a look at the rest of the thread you'd have noticed there are dozens of noobs who come barging in here thinking underoath and my chemical romance are emo. ok thx bye

[leeroy123]

I missed the A Day In Black And White concert. I hate life.


Edit: I got the date wrong. I love life and cb.
I missed them too just a few weeks ago :upset:

[Nick Morzov]

Yes there was. If you'd have taken a look at the rest of the thread you'd have noticed there are dozens of noobs who come barging in here thinking underoath and my chemical romance are emo. ok thx bye
If YOU read the threads you'd see that we'd already settled that... D*CK.

[BuddyBigsby]

I missed them too just a few weeks ago :upset:

As did I, stupid venue being shut down

[cbmartinez]

Are Books Lie emo or just hardcore?

[tornpictures]

To me, they're hardcore.

I don't think anyone could disagree on this one.

[DFelon204409]

If YOU read the threads you'd see that we'd already settled that... D*CK.

Nothing can be settled here. Music and opinions are always open to debate/criticism. If you can't handle having these conversations then go sit at the kiddie table, the Pop Punk forum.

[_Alexisonfire_]

If YOU read the threads you'd see that we'd already settled that... D*CK.

If you read the thread you'd have noticed I don't give a **** about you or your lame argument against DFelon, but rather the never ending flow of pop-centered kids who come here and post about underoath and the likes thinking it's emo. You're just one among the throng. Have a fine day :thumb:

[BuddyBigsby]

Nothing can be settled here. Music and opinions are always open to debate/criticism. If you can't handle having these conversations then go sit at the kiddie table, the Pop Punk forum.

:lol:

[frmautumTOashes]

If you read the thread you'd have noticed I don't give a **** about you or your lame argument against DFelon, but rather the never ending flow of pop-centered kids who come here and post about underoath and the likes thinking it's emo. You're just one among the throng. Have a fine day :thumb:

Who cares if there is a never ending flow of kids that don't know what emo is. Once they read the thread a little they will learn, which is a good thing. The Used, TBS, Finch etc. fans don't really bother me. It's the ****faces that say they hate emo because it's whiny p'ussy s'hit about guys breaking up with their girlfriend. They think that emo is softcore punk. If you try to tell them emo is really emotional hardcore they will laugh at you. If they ever saw this forum they would laugh because hardcore and emo are grouped together. They think Dashboard Confessional is the epitome of emo. Then, you'll have the "emo fans" come back and say that's not real emo. Listen to SOTY, The Used, Thursday, and My Chemical Romance. (I think Thursday and The Used are good bands though, just not emo.) These people think emo kids are all depressed, and wear thick glasses. You know, the same stereotype of emo being a fashion instead of a genre of music which is completely WRONG. You'd be surprised how many people think like this. These are the people that piss me off.

[DFelon204409]

I was digging where you were going on that argument until you used the word "softcore." What the **** is that.

[The_One]

Sup DFelon.

This thread is so old, but really clean. Good modding.

Saetia is neat.

[RetiredAt21]

Saetia definitely is neat.

[_Alexisonfire_]

Who cares if there is a never ending flow of kids that don't know what emo is. Once they read the thread a little they will learn, which is a good thing. The Used, TBS, Finch etc. fans don't really bother me. It's the ****faces that say they hate emo because it's whiny p'ussy s'hit about guys breaking up with their girlfriend. They think that emo is softcore punk. If you try to tell them emo is really emotional hardcore they will laugh at you. If they ever saw this forum they would laugh because hardcore and emo are grouped together. They think Dashboard Confessional is the epitome of emo. Then, you'll have the "emo fans" come back and say that's not real emo. Listen to SOTY, The Used, Thursday, and My Chemical Romance. (I think Thursday and The Used are good bands though, just not emo.) These people think emo kids are all depressed, and wear thick glasses. You know, the same stereotype of emo being a fashion instead of a genre of music which is completely WRONG. You'd be surprised how many people think like this. These are the people that piss me off.


Did that have anything to do with my argument...?

I understand you though on the stereotype thing. One fact people don't necessarily get is that the emo fashion and emo music genre in itself are completely DIFFERENT things today, thanks to the mainstream who elevated TBS and the likes to an "emo" status.

[frmautumTOashes]

I was digging where you were going on that argument until you used the word "softcore." What the **** is that.

I'm just saying stuff that I hear other people say when describing emo.


Did that have anything to do with my argument...?


Yeah I don't know why I quoted what you said.

[_Alexisonfire_]

:thumb:

[Lowend]

i just saw Hot Cross....

jealous much?

[Wow]

Nah, I'm seeing them in a month.


My Saetia demo came today. Whoohoo!

[cbmartinez]

"Patchwork Neurology" is such an awesome song.

[RetiredAt21]

I'm jealous. I desperately want to see Hot Cross.