Emo Community Thread [Archive] - Page 4

Happymeal

01-06-2005, 06:40 PM

I find March On Electric Children is not really cohesive. Sure, they've progressed musically but the focus isn't really on the music. I don't know, This Adultery Is Ripe still stands as the album that is the most cohesive, spastic, focused, hard-hitting, well I could go on forever.

It's actually the quirkiness of MoEC that made me like it more than TAiR. Not that TAiR's seriousness didn't impress me, I just think that the weird factor made The Blood Brothers' music all the more rewarding(take "American Vultures" for example).

Happymeal

01-06-2005, 06:41 PM

edit: wups, double post

A Goonie

01-06-2005, 06:42 PM

Ok im too lazy to look through every thread in here so im just gonna ask... What are The Blood Brothers considered?

Happymeal

01-06-2005, 06:44 PM

^Their classification is actually in the first post.

Dance/Indie/Grind that is rooted in emo but is eclectic

_Alexisonfire_

01-06-2005, 06:48 PM

'Tis true. When I was a n00b like yourself, I called Poison the Well hardcore, Thursday screamo and Saves The Day emo. It was ugly. But I soon learned from the best of the best, Buddy, iHATEgc and Dfelon. I tried to hang on bitterly to my false realities, but now, I''m pwning many a noob so that one day, they might ride along side the greats.

That was so epic.

*cries* I strive to achieve better understanding of what is emo too.

I still have to learn, though. From Autumn To Ashes, Avenged Sevenfold and Atreyu are metalcore, right? FATA being ... more prog then the 2 others?

Does Across Five Aprils ( GREAT band ) fit into emo?

While Alexisonfire are sometimes described as post-hardcore, do they have roots within screamo?

ForDireLifeSake and Saosin? HELP

_Alexisonfire_

01-06-2005, 06:57 PM

Dude. fourfa.com is completely wrong about the evolution of emo from 1994-present. If you'd like, after dinner I'll write it out for you vallely.

How do you know it is wrong?

And is there any other place where we can retrace the evolution of emo from 1994 up to present?

DFelon204409

01-06-2005, 07:02 PM

How do you know it is wrong?

And is there any other place where we can retrace the evolution of emo from 1994 up to present?

I'm going to write it out duder. I know because I care to know.

DFelon204409

01-06-2005, 07:05 PM

*cries* I strive to achieve better understanding of what is emo too.

I still have to learn, though. From Autumn To Ashes, Avenged Sevenfold and Atreyu are metalcore, right? FATA being ... more prog then the 2 others?

Does Across Five Aprils ( GREAT band ) fit into emo?

While Alexisonfire are sometimes described as post-hardcore, do they have roots within screamo?

ForDireLifeSake and Saosin? HELP

alexisonfire - Post-Hardcore, Punk
fordirelifesake - Metalcore
Saosin - Pop Punk
FATA - Popcore (no prog at all)

SubtleDagger

01-06-2005, 07:24 PM

I haven't heard Jets To Brazil yet, but I have heard they are emo. Anyone confirm/deny?

DFelon204409

01-06-2005, 07:36 PM

Not at all. They're indie/alternative. Sort of mopish and chill.

SubtleDagger

01-06-2005, 07:39 PM

It's all because of the Deep Elm emo conspiracy. : |

cbmartinez

01-06-2005, 07:40 PM

The last two pages were awesome. That was some of the best hardcore ***-whooping in the form of lengthy, educational paragraphs I've seen in a while. Nice job.

_Alexisonfire_

01-06-2005, 07:54 PM

What would you classify A Static Lullaby into?

cbmartinez

01-06-2005, 07:55 PM

popcore/"emocore"

srt-4

01-07-2005, 12:45 AM

Saosin - Pop Punk

wow, pop punk is getting good then. when i think of pop punk i think of bands i can't stand like good charlotte and stuff.

and i have a question. does anybody know if there are any more live saeita songs out there besides the five on a retrospective: the poet you never were, ariadne’s thread, notres langues nous trompent, the sweetness and the light, and endymion? cause i would really like to find some more.

SubtleDagger

01-07-2005, 12:49 AM

Pop-punk has a lot of good bands. GC are not pop-punk, just pop.

srt-4

01-07-2005, 12:54 AM

Pop-punk has a lot of good bands. GC are not pop-punk, just pop.

oh. well, i like brand new's latest cd deja entendu. but that was the only band i liked that i thought was pop-punk. but i guess there are others. rise against is punk, not pop punk, right?

BuddyBigsby

01-07-2005, 01:47 AM

I would just like to commend Subtle and DFelon for the near legendary pwning these last two pages. Wish I could've been around to lend a helping hand.

SubtleDagger

01-07-2005, 02:57 AM

oh. well, i like brand new's latest cd deja entendu. but that was the only band i liked that i thought was pop-punk. but i guess there are others. rise against is punk, not pop punk, right?
I would say without a doubt that Rise Against is punk.

srt-4

01-07-2005, 04:31 AM

I would say without a doubt that Rise Against is punk.

ok good, at least i was right about something. the whole saosin being pop punk threw me off though. lol.

srt-4

01-07-2005, 04:32 AM

and i have a question. does anybody know if there are any more live saeita songs out there besides the five on a retrospective: the poet you never were, ariadne’s thread, notres langues nous trompent, the sweetness and the light, and endymion? cause i would really like to find some more.

and a bump for this question

BuddyBigsby

01-07-2005, 04:54 AM

I doubt it. A Retrospective is everything they ever recorded and those 5 songs are likely the only ones the band had in their possession. If there are any other live recordings, they'd be extremely difficult to find.

DFelon204409

01-07-2005, 01:22 PM

I would say without a doubt that Rise Against is punk.

Some songs even bridge onto hardcore punk like the first song from the new CD. I only have Revolutions per Minute and collected mp3s so I wouldn't really know but whatever. The random mp3s tell a lot actually.

SubtleDagger

01-07-2005, 01:56 PM

Some songs even bridge onto hardcore punk like the first song from the new CD. I only have Revolutions per Minute and collected mp3s so I wouldn't really know but whatever. The random mp3s tell a lot actually.
Yeah, they have a lot of flashes of hardcore but they just have way too much punk in them. Lots of really fast chords and some uncommon melodic lines.

BuddyBigsby

01-07-2005, 02:32 PM

From Lambgoat:
Haram, a new outfit from the Virginia/D.C. area, have finished recording a demo. The three-song demo was recorded earlier this week with Matt Squire and you can download a song here (http://www.harammusic.com/track%2001.mp3). Haram consists of Kevin Lamiell (Majority Rule), Matt Michel (Majority Rule), Mike Taylor (pg.99), and Andy Gale (Corn on Macabre). The band will play their first show on January 14th in Washington DC at the Warehouse Nextdoor, along with Malady and Envy. The group is also in the process of booking an April tour, which will run from April 1st through the 16th.

I'm digging the song. It's not really emo though, reminds me of Malady, but better.

cbmartinez

01-07-2005, 02:45 PM

It's pretty good, definitely some emo influence in it. I love pageninetynine and I love Majority Rule more so I'm looking forward to hearing more.

cbmartinez

01-07-2005, 03:23 PM

So I checked out Stickfigure records and they have a lot of cool bands. I'm just going to list them under the genre they are closest too, I'm not sure if they are true emo/screamo.

Screamo/Grind/Hardcore
*I Would Set Myself On Fire For You- "Chinese Freeze Tag" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/iwould.mp3)
Coulier- "**** **** ****" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/coulier.mp3)
*Blame Game- "Dr Hathaway" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stick014cd.mp3)
Blame Game- "Learn(?) To Earn" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/chapi.mp3)
Camaro Crotch (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/camarocrotch.mp3)
Me And Him Call It Us- "Innocent Bystanders Watched In Horror As Peter Jennings Drew His Murder Weapon" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stickcdr010.mp3)
*Lack- "Kill Britney" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/britney.mp3)

Emo/Hardcore/Post-Hardcore
*Milemaker- "Chronology Of The Service Industry" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/003.mp3)
Death Of Marat- "Science Vs. Sorcery" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/vs.mp3)
Electrosleep International- "The Great Tomorrowland Famine" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stick016cd.mp3)
*The Hal Al Shehad- Local Seeing (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/04.mp3)
*Wheeljack- "Kulture Kampf" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/06.mp3)

*= Highly Suggested

Feedback on the correct genres would be nice. Electrosleep International has Portrait's drummer.

DFelon204409

01-07-2005, 04:12 PM

Yeah, they have a lot of flashes of hardcore but they just have way too much punk in them. Lots of really fast chords and some uncommon melodic lines.

Going back to Rise Against, I think the reason I like them so much is because it really sounds like they mean it in the music. They are a very political band who do have some variety to their subjects but the way they play their instruments and especially the vocals are really poignant and candid. I love how it inspires me to believe whatever they believe even if it really isn't the way I think. They have that ability to trasmit a palpable yet difficult to pinpoint emotion throughout their music, which is why they totally own, man.

cbmartinez

01-07-2005, 04:28 PM

Oh yeah, Stickfigure had two Potrait songs. The sound quality on "All My Chances" is pretty bad. "Even Now" is great though.

All My Chances (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/portrait7a.mp3)
Even Now (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stickdisc002.mp3)

SubtleDagger

01-07-2005, 10:41 PM

Going back to Rise Against, I think the reason I like them so much is because it really sounds like they mean it in the music. They are a very political band who do have some variety to their subjects but the way they play their instruments and especially the vocals are really poignant and candid. I love how it inspires me to believe whatever they believe even if it really isn't the way I think. They have that ability to trasmit a palpable yet difficult to pinpoint emotion throughout their music, which is why they totally own, man.
Yeah, they're so good that way. I'm not really sure how they do it, I think it's the speed and the singer's vocals.

SubtleDagger

01-07-2005, 11:06 PM

*I Would Set Myself On Fire For You- "Chinese Freeze Tag" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/iwould.mp3)
Owns. Needs to be louder.
*Blame Game- "Dr Hathaway" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stick014cd.mp3)
Same.
Camaro Crotch (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/camarocrotch.mp3)
Worst recording job ever. Sounds like it's done with a stereo and cassete.
Me And You Call It Us- "Innocent Bystanders Watched In Horror As Peter Jennings Drew His Murder Weapon" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stickcdr010.mp3)
WHY DOES THIS NOT HAVE A ****ING STAR NEXT TO IT THIS OWNS OWNS OWNS BEST SONG BY FAR even though its probably not screamo in any way
*Lack- "Kill Britney" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/britney.mp3)
Haha cowbell. This is pretty good. Great drums. And that guitar thing at 1:45 owns. I like these guys.
*Milemaker- "Chronology Of The Service Industry" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/003.mp3)
The effect thing is cool. If that's a guitar, I hate it. If it's a bass, please use more guitar.
Death Of Marat- "Science Vs. Sorcery" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/vs.mp3)
The Great Tomorrowland Famine (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/stick016cd.mp3)
Second song is kind of cool. There's a lot of indie here. Still, they're pretty boring most of the time to me.
*The Hal Al Shehad- Local Seeing (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/04.mp3)
Get a new name, it sounds too much like Shai Hulud. Also, this sounds really boring to me as well, mostly because of the recording and vocals.
*Wheeljack- "Kulture Kampf" (http://stickfig.spinweb.net/stickfigurerecords/06.mp3)
Jesus, all these bands need a better recording job, they sound the same and a lot of the earlier bands had good recording quality. This sounds a lot like Death Of Marat from before, except the noisy sections are better. I dislike the vocals though.

srt-4

01-08-2005, 01:45 AM

Going back to Rise Against, I think the reason I like them so much is because it really sounds like they mean it in the music. They are a very political band who do have some variety to their subjects but the way they play their instruments and especially the vocals are really poignant and candid. I love how it inspires me to believe whatever they believe even if it really isn't the way I think. They have that ability to trasmit a palpable yet difficult to pinpoint emotion throughout their music, which is why they totally own, man.

you should definitely get siren song of the counter culture. i still like revolutions per minute a little better, but siren song of the counter culture is still really really good.

cbmartinez

01-08-2005, 12:17 PM

Owns. Needs to be louder.

Same.

Worst recording job ever. Sounds like it's done with a stereo and cassete.

WHY DOES THIS NOT HAVE A ****ING STAR NEXT TO IT THIS OWNS OWNS OWNS BEST SONG BY FAR even though its probably not screamo in any way

Haha cowbell. This is pretty good. Great drums. And that guitar thing at 1:45 owns. I like these guys.

The effect thing is cool. If that's a guitar, I hate it. If it's a bass, please use more guitar.

Second song is kind of cool. There's a lot of indie here. Still, they're pretty boring most of the time to me.

Get a new name, it sounds too much like Shai Hulud. Also, this sounds really boring to me as well, mostly because of the recording and vocals.

Jesus, all these bands need a better recording job, they sound the same and a lot of the earlier bands had good recording quality. This sounds a lot like Death Of Marat from before, except the noisy sections are better. I dislike the vocals though.

Thanks for actually listening. There's some good stuff there. The recording is horrible on a couple, I don't know why. And I have no idea why I didn't put a star next to Me And You Calls It Us, that song does ****ing own.

SubtleDagger

01-08-2005, 12:32 PM

That part at about 43 seconds into that Me And You Call It Us song kicks my *** six ways to Sunday.

cbmartinez

01-08-2005, 12:40 PM

:lol:

BuddyBigsby

01-08-2005, 03:50 PM

I downloaded a couple, it's good stuff.

SubtleDagger

01-08-2005, 11:38 PM

Why the hell did I say 43 seconds?

I meant 23. That part kills.

cbmartinez

01-10-2005, 07:55 PM

Yeah, Combatwoundedveteran kick so much ***.

BuddyBigsby

01-10-2005, 08:47 PM

This is true.

cbmartinez

01-10-2005, 08:52 PM

Scott ( :naughty: ), I saw you say something about Codeseven used to scream? Did I interpret this right?

BuddyBigsby

01-10-2005, 09:13 PM

Yeah, listen to something off of their Division of Labor album, or anything before The Rescue for that matter.

DFelon204409

01-10-2005, 09:46 PM

You guys let's refrain from using real names. That's lame. And besides it makes it so you guys don't know who I really am.

BuddyBigsby

01-10-2005, 10:03 PM

I'm naming you Mitch.

A Year and An Ocean

01-10-2005, 10:19 PM

A few days away from seeing Envy, Malady and Today I Wait. :D

A Year and An Ocean

01-10-2005, 10:22 PM

Yeah, Some really good **** is like, Hawthorne Heights, Underoath and I guess I can throw in It Dies Today, cause they come from my town (also the fact they kickass.)

(Rock on.)

Nope sorry. :lol:

BuddyBigsby

01-10-2005, 10:26 PM

A new soldier on our side!

DFelon204409

01-11-2005, 12:31 AM

I had a nickname for you but I'm not going to tell you what it is. Okay, it was laser.

SubtleDagger

01-11-2005, 12:35 AM

Can my nickname be Nick Name?

DFelon204409

01-11-2005, 12:39 AM

Can my nickname be Nick Name?

No. Not at all.

I bet that vallely guy made a new user name he thought sounded emo (A Year and an Ocean) and now is trying to reestablish himself and win back our hearts since we broke him.

SubtleDagger

01-11-2005, 12:42 AM

and now is trying to reestablish himself and win back our hearts since we broke him.
lol 50 3^^0

tornpictures

01-11-2005, 12:14 PM

http://www.epitonic.com/artists/wallside.html

Wallside, amazing MI 'emo' band.

There are hardly any emo bands left. Milemarker and stuff are clearly not emo.
What gives them more emotion than, say, My Chemical Romance?

DFelon204409

01-11-2005, 12:33 PM

Al Burian is an awesome author. I read Burn Collector last year and was impressed.

the-UK-ska-scene

01-11-2005, 02:12 PM

I bet that vallely guy made a new user name he thought sounded emo (A Year and an Ocean) and now is trying to reestablish himself and win back our hearts since we broke him.

You shouldn't have been so mean. He was just a little confused or what have you, and SubtleDagger did say that MCR were "pop-punk" which clearly they aren't on most of the first album. The second album... Yeah maybe. Haven't listened to it much yet.

Silly emo elitists :rolleyes:

I'm going back to my ska thread now, where I can poke n00bs around and make them my bitch...

... :upset:

vallely2004

01-11-2005, 02:35 PM

No. Not at all.

I bet that vallely guy made a new user name he thought sounded emo (A Year and an Ocean) and now is trying to reestablish himself and win back our hearts since we broke him.

actually im still here as strong as ever. stop bitching behind my back you child :rolleyes:

cbmartinez

01-11-2005, 03:38 PM

There are hardly any emo bands left. Milemarker and stuff are clearly not emo.
What gives them more emotion than, say, My Chemical Romance?

Well, at least you were nice about it.

_Alexisonfire_

01-11-2005, 04:08 PM

Anyone heard about The Fall Of Troy? I'm looking for artists who sound close to this:

http://www.purevolume.com/thefalloftroy

I like fast, complex, guitar riffs above everything else, along with lots of screaming and an emo touch.

DFelon204409

01-11-2005, 04:34 PM

actually im still here as strong as ever. stop bitching behind my back you child :rolleyes:

It's straight up in your face cunt.

DFelon204409

01-11-2005, 05:08 PM

chips88

01-11-2005, 07:17 PM

It's straight up in your face cunt.

:lol:

it's so funny, cause it's so true.

and The Fall of Troy is pretty freaking awesome.

A Year and An Ocean

01-11-2005, 07:17 PM

No. Not at all.

I bet that vallely guy made a new user name he thought sounded emo (A Year and an Ocean) and now is trying to reestablish himself and win back our hearts since we broke him.

A Year and an Ocean is a song by The Khayembii Communique. An excellent band, you should check them out. And no, I just stumbled across this whole thing online last night and thought it looked cool so I joined.

DFelon204409

01-11-2005, 07:24 PM

A Year and an Ocean is a song by The Khayembii Communique. An excellent band, you should check them out. And no, I just stumbled across this whole thing online last night and thought it looked cool so I joined.

They've been a band whose mp3's have eluded me for a long time now. Can you send me some songs through AIM. The screen name is DFelon204409. My connection is ridiculously fast because I'm at college.

A Year and An Ocean

01-11-2005, 07:26 PM

They've been a band whose mp3's have eluded me for a long time now. Can you send me some songs through AIM. The screen name is DFelon204409. My connection is ridiculously fast because I'm at college.

Sure thing.

BridgeToSolace

01-11-2005, 07:39 PM

http://www.purevolume.com/thefalloftroy

I like fast, complex, guitar riffs above everything else, along with lots of screaming and an emo touch.

Fall Of Troy are fairly unique, or at least I've never heard another band quiet like them.

The closest I can think of is Fordirelifesake. Amazing band with amazing talent. http://www.purevolume.com/fordirelifesake

The best songs on their newest album, Dance.Pretend.Forget.Defend. are "Recover", "Ammunition For Your Conversation", and "Dependant On Affection".

Another band, The Sound Of Animals Fighting, is more melodic than the two, more like Mars Volta than anything, but still reminiscent of what I think you're looking for.

http://www.myspace.com/thesoundofanimalsfighting (clips, not full songs)

If you like either of the two, hit me up on AIM (IbleedtheskyI) and I'll send you whatever :thumb:

cbmartinez

01-11-2005, 07:41 PM

Dfelon likes the Fordirelifesake. He's the one who told me about them.

_Alexisonfire_

01-11-2005, 07:42 PM

Fall Of Troy are fairly unique, or at least I've never heard another band quiet like them.

The closest I can think of is Fordirelifesake. Amazing band with amazing talent. http://www.purevolume.com/fordirelifesake

The best songs on their newest album, Dance.Pretend.Forget.Defend. are "Recover", "Ammunation For Your Conversation", and "Dependant On Affection".

Another band, The Sound Of Animals Fighting, is more melodic than the two, more like Mars Volta than anything, but still reminiscent of what I think you're looking for.

http://www.myspace.com/thesoundofanimalsfighting (clips, not full songs)

If you like either of the two, hit me up on AIM (IbleedtheskyI) and I'll send you whatever :thumb:

I already know ForDireLifeSake, amazing band. First song I heard was Dependant on Attention... I never heard anything like that before, I totally freaked out. GREAT band. :thumb:

Thanks for the help,I'll look for The Sound Of Animals Fighting right away. Thx a lot! :thumb:

chips88

01-11-2005, 07:44 PM

this thread is such a wealth of info about amazing bands. I love it. I think im gonna make folder in my favorite titled emo/screamo, and then check out all these bands. some time :rolleyes:

BridgeToSolace

01-11-2005, 07:45 PM

Thanks for the help,I'll look for The Sound Of Animals Fighting right away. Thx a lot! :thumb:

Beware though, if you're one of the people who hates Anthony Green from Saosin (formerly), you might wanna stay away. He's the vox.

this thread is such a wealth of info about amazing bands. I love it. I think im gonna make folder in my favorite titled emo/screamo, and then check out all these bands. some time

Sup, Deux :smash:

Find any more Quantice Never Crashed?

A Year and An Ocean

01-11-2005, 07:56 PM

Okay, anyone ever heard of a band called Light Fuse and Get Away (and no, I'm not talking about Light the Fuse and Run). I picked up a live demo and it sounded pretty sweet but I think the band was more of a joke than anything? I dunno. Just wondering if anyone knew anything about this band.

_Alexisonfire_

01-11-2005, 09:25 PM

Beware though, if you're one of the people who hates Anthony Green from Saosin (formerly), you might wanna stay away. He's the vox.

Really? Well I don't dislike him, I just wondered for a while if it really was a man singing when I first discovered Saosin... :amaze:

BleedTheSky, are you the one who made a list of emo/screamo/indie and related bands? You made a large post of bands just listing bands beginning with A, then B... I can't find that thread, anyone have the link? I need to check out some new bands.

BridgeToSolace

01-11-2005, 09:39 PM

Really? Well I don't dislike him, I just wondered for a while if it really was a man singing when I first discovered Saosin... :amaze:

Bah, he's my favorite singer...ever.

BleedTheSky, are you the one who made a list of emo/screamo/indie and related bands? You made a large post of bands just listing bands beginning with A, then B... I can't find that thread, anyone have the link? I need to check out some new bands.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252252

It's even stickied :p

I don't know why I never got around to doing the rest of the alphabet. Lazy, I suppose.

I should add "An Embrace Of Angels" and "Heroes And Hearasy" to that list. Solid emo bands.

BuddyBigsby

01-12-2005, 12:58 AM

SubtleDagger

01-12-2005, 01:03 AM

: | It seemed like no one else cared about that Me And You And We Call It Us song. That song frigging owned. It's obviously not emo, but hey IT FRIGGING OWNED.

/me wants a CD

BuddyBigsby

01-12-2005, 01:23 AM

I liked it.

DFelon204409

01-12-2005, 01:34 AM

Beware though, if you're one of the people who hates Anthony Green from Saosin (formerly), you might wanna stay away. He's the vox.

He's also the good.

SubtleDagger

01-12-2005, 02:13 AM

I liked it.
Good.

Too bad I'll never hear anther song from them again ever.

Saturday Supercade

01-12-2005, 06:28 AM

This thread is getting way to big cause all of those ignorant people calling pop-punk bands - emo!

My favourite emo bands: Rites of Spring, Fugazi, Hoover, Still life, Christie Front Drive, Elliot.

DFelon204409

01-12-2005, 10:59 AM

The Elliott songs I've heard definitely aren't emo.

tornpictures

01-12-2005, 11:01 AM

cbmartinez

01-12-2005, 12:07 PM

Good.

Too bad I'll never hear anther song from them again ever.

/me looks for more mp3s

cbmartinez

01-12-2005, 12:34 PM

Haha, I'm an idiot. The band is actually called Me And Him Call It Us, not Me And You Call It Us. Anyway, their CD is coming out this month and I found another mp3.

"There Is No Question Mark Button On This Computer"
http://www.halcyon5.com/%7Emahciu/there_is_no_question_mark_button_on_this_computer. mp3

SubtleDagger

01-12-2005, 12:41 PM

Link doesn't work. I don't know why, I just had to copy-paste it and fix it, maybe something with MX.

They sound a lot like The Locust. And maybe some Ed Gein too.

cbmartinez

01-12-2005, 12:43 PM

Yeah, the period gets moved or something when you click it. Is it good? I'm in my school library and I get download mp3s. :upset:

Happymeal

01-12-2005, 06:48 PM

cbmartinez

01-12-2005, 06:54 PM

Yeah, I'll make a list of all the bands we've discussed.

chips88

01-12-2005, 06:58 PM

Woa, I think that Planes Mistaken for Stars is coming to Houston. Or at least that's what I've been told.

/investigates

SubtleDagger

01-12-2005, 07:27 PM

Yeah, the period gets moved or something when you click it. Is it good? I'm in my school library and I get download mp3s. :upset:
Not as good as the last one, but still good.

cbmartinez

01-12-2005, 07:48 PM

Screamo:
I, Robot
The Red Scare
Envy
Bleeding Kansas
Welcome To The Plague Year
Off Minor
Van Johnson
The Kodan Armada
Majority Rule
Racebannon
Transistor, Transistor
The Assistant
This Ship Will Sink
Takaru
In/Humanity
Crestfallen
Get ****ed
Yaphet Kotto
Sakita Sarra
Malady
I Would Set Myself On Fire For You
Coulier
Blame Game
The Murder Of Rosa Luxemburg

Emo:
The Fiction
Wolves
Wallside
The Hal Al Shehad

Many mp3s for most of these bands can be found in these two posts:
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6177489&postcount=779
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5941000&postcount=635

Okay, that's a very lose list. I'm asking Buddy, Dfelon, etc., to go through that list and decided which ones are real emo/screamo, as I am still a novice and classifying emo.

Bartender

01-12-2005, 07:54 PM

I'll refrain from editing bands in until you've decided a bit more, then.

cbmartinez

01-12-2005, 08:02 PM

Thank, B man.

DFelon204409

01-12-2005, 09:08 PM

DFelon(or a mod), could you edit the list of bands in the first page? We've discussed a lot of other bands along the way, it's too bad if they'd just float away in obscurity.

edit: The Fall of Troy are releasing new stuff soon, hopefully this year.w00t

The Fall of Troy definitely isn't emo man. The vocals give it away. Musically they are pretty similar to newer Hot Cross. But they are clearly not emo.

DFelon204409

01-12-2005, 09:12 PM

Also, Envy is not a screamo band. They're post-hardcore/emo with some really sick drumming. They have these breakdowns on their songs that are definitely hardcore but the durmming is so frentic that it's impossible to discern the open space like in traditional breakdowns. You guys are coming from some weird directions on a lot of these bands. The problem is I haven't heard all of them so I have to take your word for it, even when you're totally wrong. cbmartinez, you up until like 2 months ago were calling Glassjaw and Poison the Well emocore, so I'd like to get some opinions from Buddy Bigsby, shane italian, or possibly pepino if he'd come back for this one. torn pictures too can just say some crap and we'll see what we'll do with that.

Happymeal

01-12-2005, 09:17 PM

The Fall of Troy definitely isn't emo man. The vocals give it away. Musically they are pretty similar to newer Hot Cross. But they are clearly not emo.

I know, but there's no place else I can post that where anyone gives a **** about that anyway.

DFelon204409

01-12-2005, 09:18 PM

Screamo:
I, Robot
*The Red Scare
-Envy (should be emo or metalcore or something)
*Bleeding Kansas
*Welcome To The Plague Year
*Off Minor
Van Johnson
The Kodan Armada
Majority Rule
Racebannon
Transistor, Transistor
The Assistant
This Ship Will Sink
-Takaru (there's lots of grind, but also weird off kilter angular stuff to counterbalance that. the screaming ain't much like emo/screamo)
In/Humanity
-Crestfallen (their old stuff is random metalcore, and their new stuff is thras/grind. they're not emo at all)
Get ****ed
Yaphet Kotto
Sakita Sarra
Malady
I Would Set Myself On Fire For You
Coulier
Blame Game

Emo:
The Fiction
Wolves
Wallside
The Hal Al Shehad

Bands with a + are bands I've listened enough of to determine are correctly labelled. Bands with a - are bands I've listened enough of to determine are incorrectly labelled with reasons in parantheses. Bands without any marking I am unfit to classify.

DFelon204409

01-12-2005, 09:19 PM

I know, but there's no place else I can post that where anyone gives a **** about that anyway.

Ya but in terms of classification as emo: **** that ****.

BridgeToSolace

01-12-2005, 09:31 PM

A couple more bands for the list: (I'm a n00b at this, if these are wrong...oops)

The Murder Of Rosa Luxenburg:

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=06C0RVGGZMXA701B5SHNR4MCIL

Heroes And Hearsay:

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ECWLWNS95E7O15ZR460I21K6M

An Embrace Of Angels:

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QWNLGQBGHY5I2A994UW9RMY72

Three most in a few minutes, it takes a long time to upload these.

(The links are a little slow, sorry. That's the price you pay for free unlimited hosting)

BridgeToSolace

01-12-2005, 09:40 PM

There Is A Light That Never Goes Out

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02Y5DR825D5AZ3A43464C4V66I

Hugs:

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WFWJAW5DXZ922LQKCIGMU0NJY

Snack Truck:

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3HP9N9K7XKMDM0LEXE5JYCNS5Q

A Year and An Ocean

01-12-2005, 10:47 PM

THIS IS IT! THIS IS IT!
What's what now? I'm confused. :confused:

BuddyBigsby

01-13-2005, 12:44 AM

What's what now? I'm confused. :confused:

Haha, have you heard "The Death of an Aspiring Icon" by The Khayembii Communique?

BuddyBigsby

01-13-2005, 12:47 AM

torn pictures too can just say some crap and we'll see what we'll do with that.

hahahahahaha

I'll go through the list and lend my two cents in my next post.

BuddyBigsby

01-13-2005, 12:53 AM

Well emo and screamo are the same thing to me, just from different time periods, but here we go.

I, Robot = No heard
The Red Scare = No heard
Envy = Lots of stuff going on... they have screamo but they also have like post-hardcore and even some post-rock
Bleeding Kansas = Metalcore inspired emo
Welcome To The Plague Year = Screamo
Off Minor = Emo/Screamo is fine
Van Johnson = screamo
The Kodan Armada = screamo
Majority Rule = Screamo with a strong hardcore presence
Racebannon = No heard
Transistor, Transistor = Heard, but don't really remember
The Assistant = Screamo
This Ship Will Sink = No heard (I'm on a roll here)
Takaru = Heard, don't remember
In/Humanity = Heard, don't remember
Crestfallen = More artsy, grindy type stuff. Little screamo. Enough for the list I guess.
Get ****ed = More artsy rock from what I remember
Yaphet Kotto = Emo/screamo
Sakita Sarra = no heard
Malady = Emo-tinged Indie Rock
I Would Set Myself On Fire For You = screamo
Coulier = no heard
Blame Game = no heard

Haven't heard any of the "emo" bands. Man, does Newbmartinez have me beat on this stuff? :angry:

Also! We should add for screamo: Portrait, Neil Perry, The Khayembii Communique, Cobra Kai, Mara'akate, Orchid, You and I, The Now, Stop It!, Usurp Synapse, Jerome's Dream, Joshua Fit for Battle, Hassan I Sabbah, Love Lost But Not Forgotten, Funeral Diner, and mayyybeee Amanda Woodward.

DFelon204409

01-13-2005, 01:12 AM

Crestfallen goes with the blood brothers and other in that section.

tornpictures

01-13-2005, 12:25 PM

Screamo:
I, Robot
*The Red Scare
-Envy (should be emo or metalcore or something) -> Siqqqqq
*Bleeding Kansas
*Welcome To The Plague Year
*Off Minor
Van Johnson
The Kodan Armada
Majority Rule
Racebannon
Transistor, Transistor -> Hardcore punk
The Assistant
This Ship Will Sink
-Takaru (there's lots of grind, but also weird off kilter angular stuff to counterbalance that. the screaming ain't much like emo/screamo)
In/Humanity
-Crestfallen (their old stuff is random metalcore, and their new stuff is thras/grind. they're not emo at all)
Get ****ed
Yaphet Kotto
Sakita Sarra
Malady
I Would Set Myself On Fire For You
Coulier
Blame Game

Emo:
The Fiction -> San Diego-influenced screamo.
Wolves -> Arty post-punk post-hardcore screamo madness
Wallside
The Hal Al Shehad

SubtleDagger

01-13-2005, 12:29 PM

The Hal Al Shehad is frigging indie.

tornpictures

01-13-2005, 01:24 PM

Whatever dude.

cbmartinez

01-13-2005, 04:36 PM

Alright thanks guys. Check the links I posted for mp3s of those bands and determine the rest.

Also! We should add for screamo: Portrait, Neil Perry, The Khayembii Communique, Cobra Kai, Mara'akate, Orchid, You and I, The Now, Stop It!, Usurp Synapse, Jerome's Dream, Joshua Fit for Battle, Hassan I Sabbah, Love Lost But Not Forgotten, Funeral Diner, and mayyybeee Amanda Woodward.

Those are already on the list. Check the first page. (Never thought I'd be saying that to you :p)

BuddyBigsby

01-13-2005, 08:13 PM

Were they just added or something?

First page? I look to the future, kid. Bigsby doesn't dwell on the past.

BuddyBigsby

01-13-2005, 08:16 PM

Hassan I Sabbah isn't on there you lying sack of ****. I don't recall seeing The Now or Stop It! either and I'm sure there are a few others.

cbmartinez

01-13-2005, 08:31 PM

Well most of them are! And D nizzle hasn't edited since 9-16-04 so I he did not just add them.

cbmartinez

01-13-2005, 08:34 PM

The Hal Al Shehad is frigging indie.

I think the start-stop guitar and shouted vocals give it an emo feel. Let the emo masters decide it.

cbmartinez

01-13-2005, 08:38 PM

I'm listening to this band Gods & Queens who are Level-Plane. They seem to have some emo influence, not enough to put them in the genre though. Check 'em out:

http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/1636/

You can hear songs from The Fiction and Wolves there, also.

BridgeToSolace

01-13-2005, 08:46 PM

Hey, Chris, add Bright Blue Calm to the list too, if it's aproved, kthnx.

http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=D6368E45A319701C1DAC3D3E5EFF69F6

They might not have the chaotic-ness, though.

And those six bands I posted on the last page that got completely ignored :p

cbmartinez

01-13-2005, 08:49 PM

Sorry about that, babe. I'll listen to them now.

BridgeToSolace

01-13-2005, 08:49 PM

:-*

I got all the albums too, if you want 'em later. Hit me up on AIM, if you ever decide to use it again.

cbmartinez

01-13-2005, 08:51 PM

Like you said, I don't know if Bright Blue Calm is chaotic enough. I'm going to leave them off for now, but Buddy/Dfelon/Shane etc. should definitely give them a listen.

BridgeToSolace

01-13-2005, 08:56 PM

Like you said, I don't know if Bright Blue Calm is chaotic enough. I'm going to leave them off for now, but Buddy/Dfelon/Shane etc. should definitely give them a listen.

The whole song remindes me of the "Gravity doesn't grant me..." part in "Crowquill", which is why it made me think of was screamo/emo.

I just thought of another one, Tunes For Bearts To Dance To. I'm determined to get something right today.

http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=D42219C796BF36BF666893B15071D4B1

cbmartinez

01-13-2005, 08:57 PM

Whoa, I'm really digging the Murder Of Rosa Luxemburg. They sound like The Blood Brothers. I'm gonna' go ahead and put them on the list cause they've got the emotion and the chaos and the slowness at the same time.

cbmartinez

01-13-2005, 08:58 PM

The whole song remindes me of the "Gravity doesn't grant me..." part in "Crowquill", which is why it made me think of was screamo/emo.

Yeah, Id have to hear more stuff also before putting them in.

cbmartinez

01-13-2005, 09:02 PM

The rest of the links are coming up as stale links for some reason.

BuddyBigsby

01-13-2005, 09:04 PM

I'm listening to this band Gods & Queens who are Level-Plane.

That's two of the dudes from Lickgoldensky.

BridgeToSolace

01-13-2005, 09:14 PM

The rest of the links are coming up as stale links for some reason.

The links are supposed to work for a week...and they're working fine for me. :amaze:

If the Tunes For Bears To Dance To works (posted in an edit), then I guess they only work for 24 hours. That sucks hxc.

http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/207/

The two from the album "Ere' january be unwintered" are by An Embrace Of Angels. That's all I got for now, finding links is hard, and apparently making them on your own doesn't work well.

Saturday Supercade

01-14-2005, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by DFelon204409 The Elliott songs I've heard definitely aren't emo.

They aren't?
Have you heard the songs from there album U.S. Songs?
That album is mentioned in the 'best emo records out there'-section of www.fourfa.com so I guessed they where definitely emo, but correct me if I'm wrong...

tornpictures

01-14-2005, 07:40 AM

Like you said, I don't know if Bright Blue Calm is chaotic enough.

Hahaha.

Tool.

cbmartinez

01-14-2005, 04:31 PM

No one can win with you, torn.

chips88

01-15-2005, 11:13 AM

Indeed. Do you guys think that along with this list you could post some links to them, if any exist? Or even to where you can buy their music, if you know where you can?

DFelon204409

01-15-2005, 11:17 AM

It's all about knowing random distros or labels.

tornpictures

01-15-2005, 11:27 AM

www.noidearecords.com is pretty good and cheap.

www.limblessrecords.com is aweseome, really great guys.

www.shockvaluerecords.com

chips88

01-15-2005, 11:32 AM

It's all about knowing random distros or labels.

So you can't find any of the bands mentioned in this thread on the internet? No music or anything?

Sep

01-15-2005, 11:45 AM

So you can't find any of the bands mentioned in this thread on the internet? No music or anything?

Check the level-plane website.

Sep

01-15-2005, 12:13 PM

This has become my favorite thread.

I heard someone call the Blood Brothers 'spazzcore' which I thought suited them very well, but I doubt that's an actual genre...

cbmartinez

01-15-2005, 12:58 PM

So you can't find any of the bands mentioned in this thread on the internet? No music or anything?

http://www.purevolume.com/vanjohnson
http://www.purevolume.com/adayinblackandwhite
http://www.purevolume.com/thegreatredneckhope
http://www.purevolume.com/textbooktraitors

DFelon204409

01-15-2005, 04:40 PM

This has become my favorite thread.

I heard someone call the Blood Brothers 'spazzcore' which I thought suited them very well, but I doubt that's an actual genre...

It's a really stupid genre if you ask me when there are bands like Melt Banana that are much spazzier than The Blood Brothers.

Happymeal

01-15-2005, 08:23 PM

www.noidearecords.com is pretty good and cheap.

www.limblessrecords.com is aweseome, really great guys.

www.shockvaluerecords.com

Thanks.

also, http://www.purevolume.com/thenumbertwelvelookslikeyou if they're screamo..

(to Deux)

cbmartinez

01-16-2005, 11:23 AM

Number Twelve is more of a grind/metal band.

fenderstratboy2

01-16-2005, 11:40 AM

Underoath is my favorite right now

cbmartinez

01-16-2005, 11:59 AM

They are not emo or screamo. Read the first page.

DFelon204409

01-16-2005, 02:45 PM

cb will you please IM me so we can coordinate this review business.

tornpictures

01-16-2005, 02:49 PM

We love Uncle Kracker!!

A Year and An Ocean

01-16-2005, 05:02 PM

Haha, have you heard "The Death of an Aspiring Icon" by The Khayembii Communique?
Sorry for the delay, just got back from a weekend at a friends house with next to zero use of a computer. Yes I have, off of their split with the Vidablue. GREAT record in general.

cbmartinez

01-16-2005, 05:23 PM

cb will you please IM me so we can coordinate this review business.

Sorry, will do as soon as possible. I don't get on AIM much.

shane italian

01-16-2005, 05:28 PM

So I popped in Song of Zarathustra for the first time in a while the other day...and I haven't taken it out since :p

cbmartinez

01-16-2005, 05:31 PM

They are so good.

A Year and An Ocean

01-16-2005, 06:02 PM

Song of Zarathustra is indeed amazing. :)

BuddyBigsby

01-17-2005, 01:49 AM

I remember when Shane used to be all about the emo, but he's too tuff for us now.

Sep

01-17-2005, 01:57 AM

What's the deal with the new Hopesfall CD? It sounds nothing like the Sattelite Years. Did they get a new singer or something?

/realized Hopesfall are not emo or screamo
/leaves

BuddyBigsby

01-17-2005, 01:59 AM

They found their sound. They have the same singer.

Sep

01-17-2005, 02:01 AM

They found their sound. They have the same singer.

Do you like their new album?

I like the songs they have on Purevolume.

BuddyBigsby

01-17-2005, 02:15 AM

I love it, I think its way beyond The Satellite Years, maybe even The Frailty of Words.

tornpictures

01-17-2005, 02:31 AM

Sorry for the delay, just got back from a weekend at a friends house with next to zero use of a computer. Yes I have, off of their split with the Vidablue. GREAT record in general.

Not as good as the s/t 7".

DFelon204409

01-17-2005, 06:57 AM

They found their sound. They have the same singer.

No man. They were attempting a sound with this record. They say themselves that they had record goals and just played them out.

pixiesfanyo

01-17-2005, 07:40 AM

The Plot to Blow Up the Eiffel Tower would be Screamo right?

tornpictures

01-17-2005, 07:50 AM

The Plot are:

one cup early San Diego hardcore a la Swing Kids, two tablespoons of mod-ish screamy punk (Nation of Ulysses), a dash of jazz and a whole lotta sass!

capri sun junkie

01-17-2005, 08:00 AM

Torn, do you know how many Struggle releases there have been?

tornpictures

01-17-2005, 09:24 AM

Four, I believe.

Lp on Ebullition
7" on Ebullition
Track on the 'Give me Back' comp on Ebullition
Split 7" with Undertow which was self-released
Discography CD on Ebullition.

tornpictures

01-17-2005, 09:24 AM

Uhh, five.

cbmartinez

01-17-2005, 09:34 AM

I love it, I think its way beyond The Satellite Years, maybe even The Frailty of Words.

Yeah, I hated it at first, but now I'm in love with it. I think I may have to even agree on that better than The Satellite Years comment.

cbmartinez

01-17-2005, 01:46 PM

Approved Screamo:
Welcome To The Plague Year
Off Minor
The Kodan Armada
Van Johnson
Majority Rule
The Assistant
Cobra Kai
Mara'kate
Hassan I Sabbah
Stop It!
The Now
I Would Set Myself On Fire For You
The Fiction
Wolves
The Red Scare
Get ****ed
I, Robot

Approved Emo:
Wallside

Approved Dance/Indie/Grind that is rooted in emo but is eclectic:
Crestfallen
Envy

Unapproved Screamo:
This Ship Will Sink
Racebannon
Coulier
Blame Game
An Embrace Of Angels
The Murder Of Rosa Luxemburg

Unapproved Emo:
The Hal Al Shehad

Please check the following links to approve those bands:
http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/207/
http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/1636/
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6177489&postcount=779

DFelon204409

01-17-2005, 02:51 PM

Okay, I will after I do all my crap tonight.

A Year and An Ocean

01-17-2005, 06:13 PM

Not as good as the s/t 7".

Agreed. They didn't release enough.

A Year and An Ocean

01-17-2005, 06:17 PM

I just got out Broke Up by 1.6 Band for the first time in months. Every time I listen to this I get a bit angrier. :cool:

srt-4

01-17-2005, 11:31 PM

I love it, I think its way beyond The Satellite Years, maybe even The Frailty of Words.

i'm surprised to see that. to me, the frailty of words, no wings to speak of, and the satellite years are so much better than a types. but the frailty of words is by far the best to me.

DFelon204409

01-18-2005, 12:02 AM

Well, that's just like...your opinion, man.

Ganondorf

01-18-2005, 12:39 AM

Hey guys, what genre would you say Funeral for a Friend are?

srt-4

01-18-2005, 03:24 AM

Well, that's just like...your opinion, man.

i know. that's why i said "to me." its just surprising that the underoath guys are sell-outs for getting softer, but hopesfall just "found their sound." not that i'm saying hopesfall sold out, i don't think they did, but i don't think underoath did either.

srt-4

01-18-2005, 03:29 AM

Hey guys, what genre would you say Funeral for a Friend are?

well, they say they are Post Hardcore / Metal. so take that for what you will.

DFelon204409

01-18-2005, 11:48 AM

i know. that's why i said "to me." its just surprising that the underoath guys are sell-outs for getting softer, but hopesfall just "found their sound." not that i'm saying hopesfall sold out, i don't think they did, but i don't think underoath did either.

Hopesfall didn't "find a sound." In case you didn't notice, this album is a very plausible progression from The Satellite Years. The songs are still complex and intense but this time around instead of screaming with a melodic vocal line every so often, they sing the whole time. There's nothing poppy or sell out with singing. Underoath changed away from Christian black metal to pop punk. I mean they even scream more than Hopesfall but have clearly sold themselves beyond anything Hopesfall did on the past album.

tornpictures

01-18-2005, 12:07 PM

I, Robot and Get ****ed are screamo.

Sep

01-18-2005, 12:21 PM

Hopesfall didn't "find a sound." In case you didn't notice, this album is a very plausible progression from The Satellite Years. The songs are still complex and intense but this time around instead of screaming with a melodic vocal line every so often, they sing the whole time. There's nothing poppy or sell out with singing. Underoath changed away from Christian black metal to pop punk. I mean they even scream more than Hopesfall but have clearly sold themselves beyond anything Hopesfall did on the past album.

Underoath were black metal?? The only (older) Underoath I have heard is 'When The Sun Sleeps' and is that really Black Metal?

DFelon204409

01-18-2005, 01:24 PM

Underoath were black metal?? The only (older) Underoath I have heard is 'When The Sun Sleeps' and is that really Black Metal?

Haha. That's from when they had already sold themselves. The Changing of Times is hardly old.

cbmartinez

01-18-2005, 02:11 PM

Act Of Depression is black metal.

I, Robot and Get ****ed are screamo.

Thanks.

littledrummerboy

01-18-2005, 07:16 PM

haha I might get flamed for this but I like the blood brothers and they are like emo/screamo

cbmartinez

01-18-2005, 07:34 PM

Though they some screamo influence, they are primarily a hardcore/indie band.

BuddyBigsby

01-18-2005, 09:57 PM

Hopesfall didn't "find a sound." In case you didn't notice, this album is a very plausible progression from The Satellite Years. The songs are still complex and intense but this time around instead of screaming with a melodic vocal line every so often, they sing the whole time. There's nothing poppy or sell out with singing. Underoath changed away from Christian black metal to pop punk. I mean they even scream more than Hopesfall but have clearly sold themselves beyond anything Hopesfall did on the past album.

How is that not finding a sound? Yeah, they retained a ton of the Satellite Years elements on the new album, they just added melodies and some simpler song structure. I always felt Satellite Years was missing something, and I think what they added on A Types was that something.

40 oz 2 freedom

01-18-2005, 10:13 PM

Though they some screamo influence, they are primarily a hardcore/indie band.

I think they have way more screamo influence than they do hardcore.

srt-4

01-19-2005, 12:34 AM

Hopesfall didn't "find a sound." In case you didn't notice, this album is a very plausible progression from The Satellite Years. The songs are still complex and intense but this time around instead of screaming with a melodic vocal line every so often, they sing the whole time. There's nothing poppy or sell out with singing. Underoath changed away from Christian black metal to pop punk. I mean they even scream more than Hopesfall but have clearly sold themselves beyond anything Hopesfall did on the past album.

you're saying that a types is a plausible progression from the satellite years, but so is they're only chasing safety from when the sun sleeps, where the rest of the guys got more of their way. and how is underoath pop punk. do you guys really act this elitist in real life??? this quote makes me think of you guys, "And as far as kids saying we’ve sold out…kids like that just like to talk."

BuddyBigsby

01-19-2005, 02:09 AM

From "Where the Sun Sleeps", yes. One song. With the exceptions of maybe "Letting Go of Tonight" and the title track, the rest of the CD is pretty different from that song.

Sep

01-19-2005, 02:59 AM

I'm listening to 'Heart of Stone' by Underoath now. Is that song black metal?

srt-4

01-19-2005, 04:20 AM

From "Where the Sun Sleeps", yes. One song. With the exceptions of maybe "Letting Go of Tonight" and the title track, the rest of the CD is pretty different from that song.

you're right. i'm just giving it as an example to show that they did start that sound and many in the band wanted that sound before they started work on they're only chasing safety. its not even my favorite from that cd. i like angel below best.

on a different subject. i liked the stuff from a day in black and white on their purevolume page that was posted in this thread and downloaded some other stuff from them and checked out their website. this was on there, it has nothing to do with anything, but i thought it was funny how they wrote it.

"12/30/05
Steve managed to find our van while looking for a parking spot. Thanks for keeping your eyes peeled; no thanks to whoever stole our sweet jambox and smoked crack in the backseat however."

DFelon204409

01-19-2005, 08:03 AM

you're saying that a types is a plausible progression from the satellite years, but so is they're only chasing safety from when the sun sleeps, where the rest of the guys got more of their way. and how is underoath pop punk. do you guys really act this elitist in real life??? this quote makes me think of you guys, "And as far as kids saying we’ve sold out…kids like that just like to talk."

After sifting through the glaring grammatical errors, I'm going to have to guess that that is a criticism of the way I post here. Changing of Times to They're Only Chasing Safety is not the progression that they sold out on. It was earlier when they went to the much poppier style on Changing of Times. Also here, "sold out," is a weird term because they got many new members. I guess the main problem is that the members that stayed consented to such a change and in fact welcomed it as shown by allowing the new members and new style.

Oh ya. I am this elitist in real life because I really do care about it this much. Everybody has their thing. My youngest brother is addicted to WWE. My middle brother is addicted to Socom II. My dad is addicted to sugar free popsicles. My mom is addicted to shitty Colin Firth movies. I am addicted to music. If you were to suggest that Love Actually actually wasn't a good movie, you'd have some crap to deal with with my mom right? If you ate the last popsicle you'd have to deal with somebody who practically needs them. If you're going to be a douche around music, I'm going to be an elitist about it because it's that important to me.

DFelon204409

01-19-2005, 08:05 AM

From "Where the Sun Sleeps", yes. One song. With the exceptions of maybe "Letting Go of Tonight" and the title track, the rest of the CD is pretty different from that song.

I don't know about that. This CD just seems to have less edge. I guess it's just metalcore. Tepid metalcore at that. Underoath has always sorta sucked what am I talking about.

DFelon204409

01-19-2005, 08:06 AM

How is that not finding a sound? Yeah, they retained a ton of the Satellite Years elements on the new album, they just added melodies and some simpler song structure. I always felt Satellite Years was missing something, and I think what they added on A Types was that something.

I'm seeing much more complex song structure on A Types. Sure, songs like "Breathe from Coma" and "It Happens" are much simpler than one would expect but "Icarus" and "Matchmaker's Haven" are ridiculously cool in the songwriting department.

tornpictures

01-19-2005, 08:58 AM

Let's not talk about Hopesfall.

Bartender

01-19-2005, 09:55 AM

Why?

tornpictures

01-19-2005, 11:10 AM

Because I think they're a boring band.

DFelon204409

01-19-2005, 03:47 PM

You're a boring member.

cbmartinez

01-19-2005, 04:41 PM

Hopesfall kicks it. The Satellite Years is flawed true, but I think it's still stands as a very good album even with the incohesive flow and such.

chips88

01-19-2005, 06:22 PM

rhcpdude90

01-19-2005, 11:40 PM

srt-4

01-19-2005, 11:47 PM

After sifting through the glaring grammatical errors, I'm going to have to guess that that is a criticism of the way I post here. Changing of Times to They're Only Chasing Safety is not the progression that they sold out on. It was earlier when they went to the much poppier style on Changing of Times. Also here, "sold out," is a weird term because they got many new members. I guess the main problem is that the members that stayed consented to such a change and in fact welcomed it as shown by allowing the new members and new style.

Oh ya. I am this elitist in real life because I really do care about it this much. Everybody has their thing. My youngest brother is addicted to WWE. My middle brother is addicted to Socom II. My dad is addicted to sugar free popsicles. My mom is addicted to shitty Colin Firth movies. I am addicted to music. If you were to suggest that Love Actually actually wasn't a good movie, you'd have some crap to deal with with my mom right? If you ate the last popsicle you'd have to deal with somebody who practically needs them. If you're going to be a douche around music, I'm going to be an elitist about it because it's that important to me.

i'm sorry, i didn't know grammar was important on an internet forum. or do you just care so much about grammar too? or is it just that you like to act like you are better than everybody? and just because you care about something doesn't mean you have to be elitist about it. of all the bands i have been fortunate enough to meet, including a couple in this thread, none have ever acted anything like that about music. they all seem to think that taking genres so seriously is pointless; they just want people to get something out of their music. but i guess you must care more about music than them, since you care so much that you have to be an elitist. the only people that i know in real life that act like that are people that like to pretend they are above other people.

look back through this thread, and see some of the stuff said. like people making lists and getting approval and stuff, and other people going through and putting not approved on there. come on. it started cool with good information and stuff, but now it's just like you guys stroking each other. "oh me and such and such decided to put that band in obscureneverbeenheardofbeforecore, blah, blah, blah."

i'm sure you guys have good intentions. you know more about music than me, and i'm found several great bands from this thread. but maybe you should take a step back and see how you are coming off. its not like you are offering your knowledge to help people and introduce them to good music, its like you are saying your word is the definitive word on the subject and you are better than everybody else.

srt-4

01-19-2005, 11:50 PM

You wont be able to tell the difference.

huh?

capri sun junkie

01-19-2005, 11:57 PM

BuddyBigsby

01-20-2005, 12:43 AM

Someone's gotta put her in her place.

DFelon204409

01-20-2005, 01:07 AM

i'm sorry, i didn't know grammar was important on an internet forum. or do you just care so much about grammar too? or is it just that you like to act like you are better than everybody? and just because you care about something doesn't mean you have to be elitist about it. of all the bands i have been fortunate enough to meet, including a couple in this thread, none have ever acted anything like that about music. they all seem to think that taking genres so seriously is pointless; they just want people to get something out of their music. but i guess you must care more about music than them, since you care so much that you have to be an elitist. the only people that i know in real life that act like that are people that like to pretend they are above other people.

look back through this thread, and see some of the stuff said. like people making lists and getting approval and stuff, and other people going through and putting not approved on there. come on. it started cool with good information and stuff, but now it's just like you guys stroking each other. "oh me and such and such decided to put that band in obscureneverbeenheardofbeforecore, blah, blah, blah."

i'm sure you guys have good intentions. you know more about music than me, and i'm found several great bands from this thread. but maybe you should take a step back and see how you are coming off. its not like you are offering your knowledge to help people and introduce them to good music, its like you are saying your word is the definitive word on the subject and you are better than everybody else.

I don't need to "act better" when I am better than all you sucka fools.

In case you didn't notice the people making those approval posts are people like cbmartinez, and people who are making a decent attempt to understand what this thread is about. I mean to learn about emo/screamo you should be listening to bands that are emo/screamo and not metalcore right? That's how confusion starts. A bunch of idiots say "well they're screaming about emotions, I think so it must be screamo!!!" You know that's not how it works so please just be a good kid like cb and try to learn from people who know what they're talking about.

srt-4

01-20-2005, 03:54 AM

I don't need to "act better" when I am better than all you sucka fools.

In case you didn't notice the people making those approval posts are people like cbmartinez, and people who are making a decent attempt to understand what this thread is about. I mean to learn about emo/screamo you should be listening to bands that are emo/screamo and not metalcore right? That's how confusion starts. A bunch of idiots say "well they're screaming about emotions, I think so it must be screamo!!!" You know that's not how it works so please just be a good kid like cb and try to learn from people who know what they're talking about.

i think you missed what i was saying. it wasn't about whether or not you know what you are talking about or me learning or not learning. and telling me to be a "good kid" is just another example of the way you act that i am talking about.

DFelon204409

01-20-2005, 08:13 AM

i think you missed what i was saying. it wasn't about whether or not you know what you are talking about or me learning or not learning. and telling me to be a "good kid" is just another example of the way you act that i am talking about.

If you're complaining that we come off as thinking we're better than everybody else and also whine that we think we are the definitive words on the subject, then why are you even in this thread. If we're such cocks I'd think you'd not be here. But then you say oh I got some good bands from here and you had some useful information. The reason I "missed" what you were saying is because I didn't address it, as you were waffling around that whole entire post. Just admit that we know what we're talking about. Most other people on the site have. The most recent one to not was vallely and he was owned in multiple forums but still didn't give up. You got some good bands out of this thread right? Let us cum in your face for gratitude and then just walk away.

tornpictures

01-20-2005, 08:22 AM

Fax Arcana and Usurp Synapse got dropped from Magic Bullet. Bummer.

Apparently the drummer for Usurp Synapse (singer for Fax Arcana) beat his girlfriend and attacked one of his band mates that tried to stop him.

Travis, right?

He's a dick. He was always talking **** about everybody. He thought he was the best.

Good to see you can still rely on Brent to kick off certain bands.

G_Mac07

01-20-2005, 08:33 AM

Sorry if this is a bad post.

I've been getting into Snapcase lately, and I'm wondering whether or not I should pick up an album? Can anyone give me any suggestions? Thanks if you can. And I'm not sure if they come under Screamo or Hardcore, so if this is in the wrong place I'll try somewhere else :)

tornpictures

01-20-2005, 08:41 AM

You rule, dude.

Seriously.

Agent_Orange

01-20-2005, 10:05 AM

BuddyBigsby

01-20-2005, 10:27 AM

How the hell does a guy with a Blink 182 screen name know about something like Snapcase?

BuddyBigsby

01-20-2005, 10:32 AM

and for the record, DFelon is the elitist. I'm just a snob.

tornpictures

01-20-2005, 10:38 AM

I love the first Get-Up Kids Lp. So sue me.

DFelon204409

01-20-2005, 01:22 PM

I really love Alien Ant Farm's CD ANThology. I even type out their stupid punctuation. Excepting "Smooth Criminal" it's one of the best rock CDs I've ever heard.

tornpictures

01-20-2005, 01:41 PM

Alient Ant Farm are way worse than the Get-Up Kids.

Sep

01-20-2005, 01:56 PM

Hopesfall kicks it. The Satellite Years is flawed true, but I think it's still stands as a very good album even with the incohesive flow and such.

Yes I agree. The individual songs from The Satellite Years are insane, but the flow and how they all sound very samey stops me from giving it a perfect score. They should have taken the two instrumentals off too.

chips88

01-20-2005, 03:33 PM

After reading this thread, I listened to the satellite years, and I'm hooked to it, after not listening to it in weeks. I think I might have too many cd's for my own good.

cbmartinez

01-20-2005, 04:57 PM

"The Bending," "Decoys Like Curves," "A Man Exits," "Dana Walker"

My favorite songs in order. "The Bending" is incredible. The thing I love about The Satellite Years (that I miss on A Types) is those long spacy parts where they get a really neat dual guitar/bass combination going.

I really love Alien Ant Farm's CD ANThology. I even type out their stupid punctuation. Excepting "Smooth Criminal" it's one of the best rock CDs I've ever heard.

Good man. People are so ignorant, they're are such a great band. You should get truANT, I think it's better than Anthology. More mellow, ecletic, etc. One song has a latin groove.

pixiesfanyo

01-20-2005, 05:07 PM

Attitude?

DFelon204409

01-20-2005, 05:13 PM

"The Bending," "Decoys Like Curves," "A Man Exits," "Dana Walker"

My favorite songs in order. "The Bending" is incredible. The thing I love about The Satellite Years (that I miss on A Types) is those long spacy parts where they get a really neat dual guitar/bass combination going.

Good man. People are so ignorant, they're are such a great band. You should get truANT, I think it's better than Anthology. More mellow, ecletic, etc. One song has a latin groove.

I really dislike truANT. Also, there are some spacy parts to A Types like the end of "The Ones" and a lot of "Per Sempre." I like "Decoys Like Curves" the most from TSY.

cbmartinez

01-20-2005, 05:33 PM

Yeah, I can remember two spacy parts. One with some spacy tremolo (I'm assuming "The Ones") and the other being the final moments of the CD. I think "Per Sempre" is a really spectacular album ender.

BuddyBigsby

01-20-2005, 06:28 PM

I love the first Get-Up Kids Lp. So sue me.

I love Something to Write Home About, myself. Four Minute Mile is good too.

cbmartinez

01-20-2005, 06:48 PM

-20 scene points

chips88

01-20-2005, 06:53 PM

scene points are so overrated

/scene points for me

DFelon204409

01-20-2005, 07:43 PM

Yeah, I can remember two spacy parts. One with some spacy tremolo (I'm assuming "The Ones") and the other being the final moments of the CD. I think "Per Sempre" is a really spectacular album ender.

Exactly what I'm talking about. The sad thing is the end of "The Ones" is the best spacey part that Hopesfall has ever done but there's hardly any on the rest of the album. I'd like to see more of their "new take" on spaciness. "Per Sempre" seemed to be their attempt at the glorious six and roughly a half minute that they had nearly mastered with "End of an Era" and "The Bending," which are the two most amazing Hopesfall songs. "Per Sempre" is so disappointing compared to what they had pulled off in the past.

40 oz 2 freedom

01-20-2005, 07:43 PM

I'm a fan of the 'Kids.

srt-4

01-20-2005, 11:19 PM

If you're complaining that we come off as thinking we're better than everybody else and also whine that we think we are the definitive words on the subject, then why are you even in this thread. If we're such cocks I'd think you'd not be here. But then you say oh I got some good bands from here and you had some useful information. The reason I "missed" what you were saying is because I didn't address it, as you were waffling around that whole entire post. Just admit that we know what we're talking about. Most other people on the site have. The most recent one to not was vallely and he was owned in multiple forums but still didn't give up. You got some good bands out of this thread right? Let us cum in your face for gratitude and then just walk away.

i'm here because, like i said, i have found some great bands and learned some stuff. so what if you know a decent amount about music? get over yourself. the people that MAKE the music don't even act like you. why do you think that you can be a prick just because you know about music??? you seem to think that if i say that i found some good bands from your posts, then i can't think you are a prick. well, its both. i'm done arguing about this. but if you are ever in Tampa, Florida, let me know and i will meet you somewhere and you can try to cum in my face.

srt-4

01-20-2005, 11:27 PM

"The Bending," "Decoys Like Curves," "A Man Exits," "Dana Walker"

My favorite songs in order. "The Bending" is incredible. The thing I love about The Satellite Years (that I miss on A Types) is those long spacy parts where they get a really neat dual guitar/bass combination going.

i like all their songs so much, i can't choose favorites, at least not off that cd. but i can say that the bending is amazing live. definitely my favorite live song i've seen them do.

DFelon204409

01-21-2005, 02:36 PM

i'm here because, like i said, i have found some great bands and learned some stuff. so what if you know a decent amount about music? get over yourself. the people that MAKE the music don't even act like you. why do you think that you can be a prick just because you know about music??? you seem to think that if i say that i found some good bands from your posts, then i can't think you are a prick. well, its both. i'm done arguing about this. but if you are ever in Tampa, Florida, let me know and i will meet you somewhere and you can try to cum in my face.

I'm a prick because I am, not because I know a lot about music. The people that make the music don't act like me because they are unaffected. As long as they have fans who care about their music they are happy. I'd rather have an idiot listening to my song and mess up the classification than nobody, because maybe some of its value will teach him something by osmosis.

I will gladly cum on your face next time I'm in Tampa. It'll be easier than dissecting your poorly thought out arguments.

srt-4

01-22-2005, 12:02 AM

I will gladly cum on your face next time I'm in Tampa. It'll be easier than dissecting your poorly thought out arguments.

even if you are anywhere close, i will still meet you, i don't mind driving. but i know that even if you were here you wouldn't say anything. because you are just an internet bad *** like 1 million other nerdy kids.

BuddyBigsby

01-22-2005, 12:32 AM

haha, DFelon likes d00dz.

tornpictures

01-22-2005, 03:30 AM

DFelon204409

01-22-2005, 09:40 AM

even if you are anywhere close, i will still meet you, i don't mind driving. but i know that even if you were here you wouldn't say anything. because you are just an internet bad *** like 1 million other nerdy kids.

I am not just an internet badass. I'm a real life one as well. I came in somebody's mouth last night just as I'm offering to do to you. What did you do? You probably sat on your thumb.

myiaa

01-22-2005, 09:57 AM

Ahhh, so Saetia are emo then? I've been really liking them recently, I need to buy an album.

Sep

01-22-2005, 10:08 AM

Ahhh, so Saetia are emo then? I've been really liking them recently, I need to buy an album.

The only Cd they have ever released is their discography if I'm not mistaken. It contains all the songs they've ever released on tape/vinyl/splits etc. and a few live songs. I've been thinking about getting this album too, as it's very cheap for the 70 minutes of music you get for it. :)

ZEROthirtythree

01-22-2005, 10:46 AM

So what is Hawthorne Hieghts?

pixiesfanyo

01-22-2005, 11:42 AM

One time, I was out shoveling the snow, and Dfelon drove by and shot me in the knee.

Just because I made fun of his new haircut.

cbmartinez

01-22-2005, 12:07 PM

So what is Hawthorne Hieghts?

Pop-punk

I think I'm going to see Hawthrone Heights, Sugarcult, Head Automatica, Hopesfall at the Starland Ballroom. I'll just chill outside for Hawthorne Heights, but I want to see those other bands (yes, I like Sugarcult).

Wow

01-22-2005, 12:29 PM

Hopesfall live = win. You lucky bastard.

cbmartinez

01-22-2005, 01:50 PM

http://www.purevolume.com/superstitionsofthesky

There an acoustic band but they have Josh of Neil Perry/The Now/Hot Cross and Vadim of Marigold/This Day Forward. Check 'em out.

DFelon204409

01-22-2005, 01:59 PM

Ahhh, so Saetia are emo then? I've been really liking them recently, I need to buy an album.

By the way your french is wack. Je t'aime the valley OH! means I like you the valley OH! Try J'adore the valley OH! for the intended I love the valley OH!

cbmartinez

01-22-2005, 02:01 PM

Owned in a foreign language. You've done it all, D.

DFelon204409

01-22-2005, 04:20 PM

No, I'm just trying to help. I'm not even good at French! I hate French! AHH!H!!

tornpictures

01-23-2005, 06:49 AM

By the way your french is wack. Je t'aime the valley OH! means I like you the valley OH! Try J'adore the valley OH! for the intended I love the valley OH!

J'AIME the valley, OH!

tornpictures

01-23-2005, 06:57 AM

Hey, guess what?

A new City of Caterpillar song.

SIKE!!!!!!!!!!

Wow

01-23-2005, 10:22 AM

That was mean :(

tornpictures

01-23-2005, 11:06 AM

Sorry, I meant to post the URL.

http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/21028/

DFelon204409

01-23-2005, 12:29 PM

J'AIME the valley, OH!

Dude. aime = like, adore = love. The song title is "I love the valley OH!"

tornpictures

01-23-2005, 01:01 PM

DFelon204409

01-23-2005, 02:24 PM

Je t'aime means I love you.

J'adore is more like.. I'm crazy about.

It has different meanings in different languages, though. In English it's like.. J'aim des bonbons. I like (love) sweets.
But in Dutch 'J'adore' means 'I'm crazy about' and 'J'aime' means 'I love.'

Okay, end of discussion.

It's not the end of the discussion. The point is, he's quoting a song title, and is translating it incorrectly. The "te" in "je t'aime" should never be there in the first place. If you are just saying "I love" you say "J'adore."

End of discussion.