Emo Community Thread [Archive] - Page 23

whiteminority

11-10-2005, 06:13 PM

you blocked because i said **** you, right? well i only said that because i was just told a second before that a girl I am really good friends with was in a coma and most likely gonna die, so while i am sorry for being mean to you cut me some slack.

Special Brew

11-10-2005, 06:15 PM

Everytime I bvlock someone, I see their posts and I get curious as to what they are saying and unblock them.

deadohiosky9

11-10-2005, 06:27 PM

I Would etc. have the best female vocals in hardcore.

whiteminority

11-10-2005, 06:29 PM

I Would etc. have the best female vocals in hardcore.
IWASMOFFY?

cbmartinez

11-10-2005, 06:31 PM

Yes, you freak.

deadohiosky9

11-10-2005, 06:36 PM

yes ben, iwasmoffy. lindsey's vocals are awesome.

DFelon204409

11-10-2005, 06:48 PM

evolution leads to crazy ****. doesnt it make you wonder how black sabbath lead to bands like emperor and deicide? (metal analogy) its the same way with emo and screamo. and by the way the orchid is sort of weird they are screamo but they sure do sound like grind at times.

Ya, one thing I was going to note is that emo as a genre is a subset of hardcore. However, emo is vastly different because of the things that have influenced its sound ever since it was invited in around 1984. Think about Hot Cross as a subset of emo, because they're an emo band at their core. Just because they've evolved beyond their initial emo label, and what defines the heart of their music, doesn't mean they're not emo. They're just diverse and emo.

This is the same as saying metalcore is a very specific subset of rock and roll because if you think about it:

Rock{Hard Rock[Metal; Punk(Hardcore) => Metalcore]}

RetiredAt21

11-10-2005, 07:45 PM

I like the female vocals in CTTS.

deadohiosky9

11-10-2005, 08:29 PM

Lindsey's vocals > kathy's vocals

RetiredAt21

11-10-2005, 08:30 PM

tr00f, but that chick from CTTS can sing quite well.

deadohiosky9

11-10-2005, 09:32 PM

that is true.

cuts_like_drugs

11-10-2005, 10:19 PM

Ya, one thing I was going to note is that emo as a genre is a subset of hardcore. However, emo is vastly different because of the things that have influenced its sound ever since it was invited in around 1984. Think about Hot Cross as a subset of emo, because they're an emo band at their core. Just because they've evolved beyond their initial emo label, and what defines the heart of their music, doesn't mean they're not emo. They're just diverse and emo.

This is the same as saying metalcore is a very specific subset of rock and roll because if you think about it:

Rock{Hard Rock[Metal; Punk(Hardcore) => Metalcore]}

agreed, thats why I think its werid to call them emo, because em to me is Moss Icon, Still Life, Hoover, etc. Hot Cross and CTTS is screamo. There is a signifficant difference to me.

StandingStill

11-11-2005, 02:22 AM

Grrrr. The Dear Diary thread got closed before I got a chance to go on about how amazing they are.

Wow

11-11-2005, 05:28 AM

agreed, thats why I think its werid to call them emo, because em to me is Moss Icon, Still Life, Hoover, etc. Hot Cross and CTTS is screamo. There is a signifficant difference to me.

Hot Cross aren't screamo.

And Dear Diary own purely for the Johnny the Homicidal Maniac reference.

SunnyDayRealEstateAM

11-11-2005, 09:32 AM

Lindsey's vocals > kathy's vocals
The Assistant's female vocalist is as good if not better than those.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 10:10 AM

many of the emo/screamo/"revolution summer" hardcore groups sound alot like more chaotic and aggressive forms on indie.

So now we have emo/screamo being listed as grindcore, hardcore, and possibly indie for some of them. All of them are very distint genres that have little in common with each other.

My point? i don't have one because I woke up literally five minutes ago and I have no clue what I'm even talking about. :p

Wow

11-11-2005, 10:25 AM

How about you just stop talking about it? Emo will always be emo no matter what people call it.

Belle Epoque > Everyone.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 10:32 AM

becasue it's clear that bands themselves are rejected the emo/screamo label because many of them have taken the genres off of their Myspaces and PVs. And now this Abolish Screamo Tour thing is going on.

Plus it's too hard to explain to everyone, and I hate talking to hard headed idiots that won't believe a single thing I tell them. Labelling it under hardcore or something will just make things much easier in the future.

Wow

11-11-2005, 10:34 AM

Who cares? Rites of Spring hated the emo label but they're an emo band. Just because a band doesn't like the label doesn't change the genre that they are.

And if it's too hard, don't explain it. Let them be ignorant. As long as you know what it is and enjoy it, that's all that matters.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 10:42 AM

Sorry, but I like talking about music with people. I know it's emo, and I love it, but I can't be bothered to explain that to every single person I wish to talk to.

I'm just not going to shame the bands i like by callign them emo or screamo anymore. Apparently the Used is the common example of emo used by the media, and nearly everyone who listens to music. Let these horrible bands and their fans take the label and it's bad reputation, and we'll go on under a new title.

The bands are hardcore, but I'm just looking for more descriptive words so that I can describe a bands sound more learly when I hold a conversatin with someone.

Wow

11-11-2005, 10:47 AM

Dude, it's really not that hard to explain. I've done it dozens of times in less than three minutes.

Shame them? If the bands themselves get so upset over the name of the genre of music they play, they should stop playing it. It's emo, always has been emo, always will be emo. The other bands already have a set genre called pop-rock. Let the public be misinformed. I'd rather have it the way it is now than the little scenesters running around talking about Saetia and how "hot" Billy Werner is just 'cause he was in an amazing band.

If you're looking for a more descriptive word and they're ignorant, just say emotional hardcore. Afterall, that's what emo is.

SunnyDayRealEstateAM

11-11-2005, 10:48 AM

Listen to Wow. Its not important. Emo is Emo. Screamo is Screamo. Hardcore is Hardore. Pop-Punk is Pop-Punk. Drop it.

XDivineFireX

11-11-2005, 10:53 AM

dudes...is there a place i can request a sample of these bands you speak of? I'm into emo/sceamo but i just haven't heard everything. It would be pretty cool if there was a request thread or something like that...

Sep

11-11-2005, 10:54 AM

Wow

11-11-2005, 10:54 AM

AIM me at FuzzyLlamaOfDoom. I'll hook you up with whatever you want.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 11:38 AM

Just call them hardcore bands then? I don't think anyone here cares man.
That's what I've been saying... and I know nobody cares, I'm just looking for an easy way of describing bands to people without using the terms emo or screamo. Like if I want to tell someone about Saetia, I want to describe their sound and genre without actualy using the word emo, because I wouldn't feel like explaining anything more than just that sepcific band.

I give up, since you guys don't see what I'm asking.

Pinkpiche

11-11-2005, 11:51 AM

Lately i've been listening to some french emo like Amanda Woodward, Daïtro and so on. And i found out that on their flyers and posters they call it emocore. But isn't that just emotional hardcore core?. sounds stupid to me anyway.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 11:52 AM

there is no such thing as emocore. That's just stupid.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 12:28 PM

Does anyone know of any books, links, sites, or other forums that I could check out to learn EVERYTHING about the history of emo and screamo. Please don't say fourfa, because I hate taht site with a bloody passion.

I'm looking for anything that will help me learn, and I would rather it be as in-depth as possible. I know there are a couple books that have been published, but I don't know the names.

So, link me to this shizz!

Sep

11-11-2005, 12:53 PM

Wow

11-11-2005, 01:14 PM

whiteminority

11-11-2005, 03:29 PM

Wow

11-11-2005, 03:37 PM

I have scenesters talking about Orchid here.

whiteminority

11-11-2005, 03:42 PM

damn. well orchid are really popular, ive heard the name thrown around at shows along with circle takes the square but thats is about as far as comprehension of screamo goes in my area.

SGlove

11-11-2005, 03:46 PM

I have scenesters talking about UnderOATH and how they go to Church.
It's always refreshing to see little boys in tight pants and femine looks going to church.
The Priests love it.

whiteminority

11-11-2005, 03:54 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol:

latest word from the vatican: "emo is ok"
weeks later: "it seems that the latest convention of catholic priests will be hosting the band underOATH and that all fans of the music are invited to come and listen and then spend the night."

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 04:22 PM

I have scenesters talking about Orchid here.
how do you define scenester exactly? Is it just the way they dress? You know, with the white belt, unisex haircut, and girl pants?

Thanks for the awesome link btw. ;)

whiteminority

11-11-2005, 04:36 PM

http://www.mesaverde.co.uk/mp3/
nice link.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 04:52 PM

If you guys have any more links, let me know. I am compiling a list of educational links to send to people when needed, as well as reading them for myself and learning.

I already know fourfa, the wiki definition, and now that new link, but I need more than that.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 04:53 PM

Location: TN
Where in TN do you live? Sorry if this has come up between us before, I just don't remember. I remember someone aroudnd here was from Knoxville, I think. I don't remember if it was you though.

Wow

11-11-2005, 04:58 PM

how do you define scenester exactly? Is it just the way they dress? You know, with the white belt, unisex haircut, and girl pants?

Thanks for the awesome link btw. ;)

That and the attitude.

"My life is a black hole of nothingness sucking me in as apathy consumes my entire being" type people.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 05:00 PM

Haha, I know what you mean then.

deadohiosky9

11-11-2005, 05:02 PM

Rites of Spring didn't like being called emo because it sounded just as ridiculous to them as "screamo" does to a lot of bands now. I know what you mean about trying to have a conversation with people about music, and all they know is s.hit. But i usually find that those people aren't really worth talking to anyways.

Wow

11-11-2005, 05:06 PM

Neeshacker: damien has 9,000 posts
Neeshacker: 9,000 n00b posts
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom: Dude
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom: That was so stupid
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom: that it was hillarious

deadohiosky9

11-11-2005, 05:08 PM

hahahaha. <3 ash.

EDIT: Ben likes Slayer. He's gay.

whiteminority

11-11-2005, 05:18 PM

Where in TN do you live? Sorry if this has come up between us before, I just don't remember. I remember someone aroudnd here was from Knoxville, I think. I don't remember if it was you though.
that is me. i live up the road from knoxville.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 07:05 PM

Neeshacker: damien has 9,000 posts
Neeshacker: 9,000 n00b posts
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom: Dude
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom: That was so stupid
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom: that it was hillarious
Am I supposed to feel offended? :confused:

deadohiosky9

11-11-2005, 07:15 PM

haha no i love you damien. <3.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 10:06 PM

haha no i love you damien. <3.
I'm really gettin' confused now. :(

SubtleDagger

11-11-2005, 11:14 PM

Yeah, so I like Owls!.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 11:25 PM

I've never even heard them actually.

SubtleDagger

11-11-2005, 11:25 PM

Go listen, it does a body good.

Mute Print

11-11-2005, 11:29 PM

I tried to download some of their stuff on Soulseek earlier today, but I couldn't find anything. I've been meaning to check them out for a while.

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 11:42 PM

Go listen, it does a body good.
I'm trying to, but Myspace is being a fag for me today. Many band's songs just refuse to play. I'll bookmark them if I can't get it to work.

I'm going to repeat my other post for people who didn't see it and don't read past discussion:

Does anyone know of any books, links, sites, or other forums that I could check out to learn EVERYTHING about the history of emo and screamo. Please don't say fourfa, because I hate taht site with a bloody passion.

I'm looking for anything that will help me learn, and I would rather it be as in-depth as possible. I know there are a couple books that have been published, but I don't know the names.

So, link me to this shizz!

Special Brew

11-11-2005, 11:50 PM

Ok, their tunes are working now, and I love it! :-O

http://www.myspace.com/wowowls

I added them and messaged them about their avaiable releases. If that vinyl split is all they have, then I'm going to have troubles because I don't own a record player. :(

deadohiosky9

11-11-2005, 11:56 PM

dude get a record player. you need one.

whiteminority

11-12-2005, 12:06 AM

dude get a record player. you need one.
he tells the truth i dont have one and can barely get my hands on recorded music by my fav bands. (cept the red scare :) )

deadohiosky9

11-12-2005, 12:10 AM

vinyl sounds better than cds.

Special Brew

11-12-2005, 12:20 AM

dude get a record player. you need one.
I've been meaning to, but I haven't seen a real good cheap one yet. ALl the pawn shops have these old players from 40 years ago, and I'm sure half of them don't work well. The local record store (Sam Goody) sells some new models, but they are amazingly expensive for something that plays vinyl, which is rarely actually used these days except in DYI music.

deadohiosky9

11-12-2005, 12:21 AM

look for some on ebay. there are plenty of cheap ones waiting to be bought.

whiteminority

11-12-2005, 12:24 AM

vinyl sounds better than cds.
i have wondered what my red scare cd would sound like on vinyl, probally alot better because production is crap on capillary lockdown.

Special Brew

11-12-2005, 12:27 AM

look for some on ebay. there are plenty of cheap ones waiting to be bought.Wouldn't the shipping be high for such a large item though?

deadohiosky9

11-12-2005, 12:28 AM

probably, but either way it won't amount to how much you would pay for a brand new one.

whiteminority

11-12-2005, 12:29 AM

just buy an old one. if it works your set, and if it doesnt your out $15 at most.

deadohiosky9

11-12-2005, 12:30 AM

luckily my friend had a record player he never used, so i got that and didn't have to worry.

Special Brew

11-12-2005, 12:31 AM

just buy an old one. if it works your set, and if it doesnt your out $15 at most.
hah, good point.

I'll surf around ebay tomorrow. I'm too lazy right now. I'll go through the series of pawn shops out on main street sometime this week as well.

whiteminority

11-12-2005, 12:31 AM

hah, good point.

I'll surf around ebay tomorrow. I'm too lazy right now. I'll go through the series of pawn shops out on main street sometime this week as well.
best idea.

Sep

11-12-2005, 06:02 AM

I want a record player, badly. I think my uncle's bringing me one from Holland or something.

Wow

11-12-2005, 06:04 AM

My record player is the best thing to ever happen to me.

Neeshee, this reminds me of Joey. He has more vinyl than anyone and no record player. This makes me laugh.

whiteminority

11-12-2005, 09:22 AM

how many albums does he have?

SunnyDayRealEstateAM

11-12-2005, 09:31 AM

I'm getting a record player for Christmas :)

tornpictures

11-12-2005, 01:31 PM

vinyl sounds better than cds.

Not to be a dick, but that's toootal bull****.
It's your sound system (amp+speakers) that defines how good y our sound is. I like the warm feel of vinyl, clicks and pops, taking the record out of the sleeve and putting it on the player, but the sound is most definitely NOT better.

deadohiosky9

11-12-2005, 02:28 PM

yeah i didn't think about that. i guess i jsut meant to say that i prefer vinyl over cds.

cbmartinez

11-12-2005, 10:29 PM

You were just trying to sound cool. Save it for vlv.

Storm In A Teacup

11-12-2005, 10:35 PM

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=4272&genreid=17

Another episode of review whoring.

deadohiosky9

11-12-2005, 10:42 PM

Silverstein aren't hardcore/emo. They don't belong in this forum.

Storm In A Teacup

11-12-2005, 10:50 PM

Sorry, I typed in their name and this is the top thing that showed up.

deadohiosky9

11-12-2005, 10:51 PM

ah. its cool.

DFelon204409

11-13-2005, 10:55 AM

The real problem is that he gave it a 3.5

quick_death

11-13-2005, 11:28 AM

i just heard envy :eek:

cbmartinez

11-13-2005, 02:08 PM

So many wasted years of your life.

Wow

11-13-2005, 03:02 PM

icecreamxcore offered another record deal. What's this, three or four?

SubtleDagger

11-13-2005, 03:58 PM

My friend found a copy of Hoover's full-length yesterday at a distro.

ADiB&W, pg.99, and Saetia albums were there too, but we were so broke.

Wow

11-13-2005, 04:32 PM

Please tell me you picked up Hoover.

Special Brew

11-13-2005, 04:34 PM

cbmartinez

11-13-2005, 04:46 PM

That this youdon'tknowemo site has some good information but presents in an obnoxious and unprofessional way. That's why I like fourfa.

Special Brew

11-13-2005, 08:14 PM

Fourfa bugs me, mainly because of the emo fashion section.

Floydfanatic

11-13-2005, 08:50 PM

Not to be a dick, but that's toootal bull****.
It's your sound system (amp+speakers) that defines how good y our sound is. I like the warm feel of vinyl, clicks and pops, taking the record out of the sleeve and putting it on the player, but the sound is most definitely NOT better.

well i don't really know if it's noticable or not, but it's true that vinyl records record more audio frequencies than cd's or mp3's. i can't tell the difference but whatever i like both.

Sep

11-14-2005, 07:44 AM

Fourfa bugs me, mainly because of the emo fashion section.

I'm pretty sure that was put there as a joke.

tornpictures

11-14-2005, 07:45 AM

My friend found a copy of Hoover's full-length yesterday at a distro.

CD or Lp and was it The Lurid Traversal or the s/t?

tornpictures

11-14-2005, 08:28 AM

well i don't really know if it's noticable or not, but it's true that vinyl records record more audio frequencies than cd's or mp3's. i can't tell the difference but whatever i like both.

They don't record, they transmit, but yeah they do. Humans can't hear the frequencies though

Special Brew

11-14-2005, 11:24 AM

I'm pretty sure that was put there as a joke.
I sure hope so. They need to make that more evident, because whenever I link someone to that site, they always laugh because it's there.

It's hard to be taken seriously when I link peopel to such stupid crap.

Wow

11-14-2005, 11:39 AM

Don't link them to Fourfa, then. It's not that good, anyway.

tornpictures

11-14-2005, 11:57 AM

I sure hope so. They need to make that more evident, because whenever I link someone to that site, they always laugh because it's there.

It's hard to be taken seriously when I link peopel to such stupid crap.

Oh come on, the fashion tips thing is pretty ****ing obviously meant in an ironic way dude.

Reading comprehension.

Special Brew

11-14-2005, 12:17 PM

To people who don't know anything about emo, they will take it seriously. And to me obviously. :(

I just ignore it, because the rest of the site is decent, however unorganized.

SubtleDagger

11-14-2005, 01:54 PM

CD or Lp and was it The Lurid Traversal or the s/t?
Lurid CD.

As far as I know, the s/t is nigh impossible to find.

Please tell me you picked up Hoover.
Of course. The other stuff is rather common at the distros we see.

tornpictures

11-14-2005, 02:22 PM

Well the s/t (which is basically stuff they recorded four(?) years after splitting, contains about four or five songs I think) I saw in a record store about two years ago and it's probably still there. The CD that is.
Sooo if you realllly want it, hit me up and I'll check it out for you.

Saturday Supercade

11-14-2005, 05:28 PM

Finding a copy of the Lurid traversal of rte 7 (cd-version) isn't very special..you can just order it at amazon..

SubtleDagger

11-14-2005, 06:07 PM

We don't order albums online. That's for womens.

Special Brew

11-14-2005, 06:21 PM

We don't order albums online. That's for womens.
Apparently I'm a womens :(

BuddyBigsby

11-15-2005, 03:33 AM

Saturday Supercade

11-15-2005, 06:56 AM

We don't order albums online. That's for womens.

bulls'hit

Scabies

11-15-2005, 11:20 AM

Hey guys, this site has a couple emo/screamo shirts if anyone's interested. Angel Hair, Swing Kids, The VSS, and some real sweet Yaphet Kotto. They have some white belt/31G stuff if you're into that, as well.

www.badskulls.com

I was gonna order a dropdead shirt off at that site a while back. then i opened my wallet. and saw nothing.

Special Brew

11-15-2005, 11:54 AM

Hey guys, this site has a couple emo/screamo shirts if anyone's interested. Angel Hair, Swing Kids, The VSS, and some real sweet Yaphet Kotto. They have some white belt/31G stuff if you're into that, as well.

www.badskulls.com
I think either you, or someone else showed me this site a little while back. they have some awesome stuff there.

They have Iron Lung shirts. :cool:

Sep

11-15-2005, 12:05 PM

T'was probably tornpictures.

SunnyDayRealEstateAM

11-15-2005, 06:09 PM

withering_rose

11-15-2005, 08:38 PM

hey guys, I'm trying to educate some (well, one) friend on what real emo is, I'm going to link her to this thread. there was another site that I've seen on these forums before, it was basically a history of emo, starting with, well, when it started in the 80s. I forget what it was called but on the last page it had something about the whitestripes for some reason. can someone link me?

deadohiosky9

11-15-2005, 08:57 PM

http://www.fourfa.com

withering_rose

11-15-2005, 09:17 PM

http://www.fourfa.com
thank you a million times over. I know fourfa isn't entirely accurate but its good for when your starting out

withering_rose

11-15-2005, 09:26 PM

what would you guys classify alexisonfire as? I've really been lovin their stuff for the past couple months. I think they're emo or post-hardcore but I'm not sure. anyone else like them?

Wow

11-15-2005, 09:36 PM

I haven't heard alexis in forever but if memory serves me right, they're post-hardcore. Either way, they're not emo.

SubtleDagger

11-15-2005, 09:39 PM

withering_rose

11-15-2005, 09:46 PM

The last page of fourfa is pretty inaccurate. Stick to the first few, don't take it too much to heart and you'll be about right.
yeah, its for a friend and I told her that so she should be ok. I also told her to get an account here XD

SubtleDagger

11-15-2005, 09:52 PM

Well, it's good that you're educating someone about it.

DFelon204409

11-15-2005, 10:55 PM

Hey does anybody have Scabdates?

StandingStill

11-16-2005, 03:03 AM

Yes. I'm a big Mars Volta fan and it bored me to tears. If you love listening to 45 minute improvisations give it a shot, otherwise steer well clear. Basically its 3 tracks stretched out to the point of ridiculous.
I'm going to this by the way: http://www.atpfestival.com/events/line_up.php?event=19

SubtleDagger

11-16-2005, 03:24 AM

You seem like one of those people who just doesn't get TMV live.

They improvise to make the songs better, and quite often do.

StandingStill

11-16-2005, 04:28 AM

I've seen them a couple of times. Once they were spectacular, once they were boring as hell. I like the way they jumble the songs up and go off on tangents, but I don't really think they've quite got the ability to pull a 30 minute blues/jazz improv. If they were forced to play 5 songs in an hour it'd be great, but the second time I saw them they managed 2 songs in an hour and a 12 minute drum solo.

Sep

11-16-2005, 07:02 AM

What are some good 7"/split 7"s to get from 29northrecords?

JimbobTheSquirrel

11-16-2005, 12:55 PM

Jimmy Eat World: Emo, right?
They've been growing on me lately, at first I didn't like them but their catchiness is changing my mind.

Sep

11-16-2005, 01:00 PM

Nah they're pop-punk/indie.

I really need to pick up Clarity.

JimbobTheSquirrel

11-16-2005, 01:11 PM

Nah they're pop-punk/indie.

I really need to pick up Clarity.
Oh, ok. I'd heard they were and they weren't, I think. What about Biffy Clyro? I wouldn't have thought they were emo, but I heard they were.
After much soul searching (read: actualy thinking about it) I've realised that I don't really object to emo. There's some crap music, as with any genre, and the fashion looks ridiculous to me, but those aren't reasons to discount it. So what are some good emo bands I should check out, now that I've decided to be open-minded about it? I've heard some Atreyu and Avenged Sevenfold (who were emo but aren't anymore?), and I didn't think they were great. My favourite bands right now are Rammstein, QOTSA, Placebo and System, if that helps reccomendations. Sorry if there's already a thread for this and I'm just wasting space in your community thread. Feel free to come spam up the PNWI community thread, it's all we ever do in it:).

Special Brew

11-16-2005, 01:15 PM

Please read these websites before coming back into this thread.

http://www.fourfa.com
http://www.youdontknowemo.tk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo
http://www.mesaverde.co.uk/mp3/

JimbobTheSquirrel

11-16-2005, 01:36 PM

Please read these websites before coming back into this thread.

http://www.fourfa.com
http://www.youdontknowemo.tk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo
http://www.mesaverde.co.uk/mp3/
Will do:thumb: I think I've read the Wikipedia page before, or at least part of it.
Edit: Fugazi are emo? Or just their earlier stuff?

Special Brew

11-16-2005, 01:49 PM

Will do:thumb: I think I've read the Wikipedia page before, or at least part of it.
Edit: Fugazi are emo? Or just their earlier stuff?
As far as I know, they are post-hardcore but the early stuff is considered some of the beginning stages of emo.

JimbobTheSquirrel

11-16-2005, 01:58 PM

As far as I know, they are post-hardcore but the early stuff is considered some of the beginning stages of emo.
Right, I'm pretty sure I've only heard their later stuff, and it doesn't sound particularily emo to me. That being said, after reading three of those pages (wikipedia wouldn't load) I'm now three times more confused. What're some good songs or albums I should be able to get fairly easily?

Sep

11-16-2005, 02:01 PM

As in to download or to buy?

'Cause in record shops you should easily be able to get the Rites Of Spring discography.
I'm not into the older emo bands too much, except for Indian Summer. Who you definitely need to check out.

Special Brew

11-16-2005, 02:14 PM

Last edited by SubtleDagger : Today at 03:08 PM.
:confused:

Sep

11-16-2005, 02:16 PM

Heh.

JimbobTheSquirrel

11-16-2005, 02:18 PM

^I was wondering about that too... I'll keep an eye out for those, then. And I'll make my friend Grace, too, she's into a lot of that non-emo stuff.

Axe

11-16-2005, 02:20 PM

Is Bullet for my valentine considered scremo?
because they seriously rock.
Hand of blood \m/

Special Brew

11-16-2005, 02:21 PM

No. They are metalcore I believe, but I haven't really heard much by them. I haven't listened to them for a long time either.

Axe

11-16-2005, 02:22 PM

I think they are good. nice avatar btw Damien.

Sep

11-16-2005, 02:22 PM

Yeah metalcore, although I remember hearing one or two songs by them that were really poppy?

SubtleDagger

11-16-2005, 02:23 PM

:confused:
Double post. Merged.

You don't like Embrace or Moss Icon, Sep?

Special Brew

11-16-2005, 02:23 PM

I think they are good. nice avatar btw Damien.
Thanks. I don't know what it's from or anything though.

cbmartinez

11-16-2005, 02:36 PM

Moss Icon are the best early emo band.

StandingStill

11-16-2005, 04:36 PM

Is Bullet for my valentine considered scremo?
because they seriously rock.
Hand of blood \m/
They are barely even metalcore to be honest. Pop-metal really, no hardcore to speak of.

DFelon204409

11-16-2005, 04:40 PM

Well, I mean, just read the band name. I'd guess they sound like Atreyu with worse lyrics and more obvious breakdowns.

deadohiosky9

11-16-2005, 05:17 PM

Moss Icon are the best early emo band.

hell yes. :thumb:

Wow

11-16-2005, 05:34 PM

Moss Icon are the best early emo band.

True that, son.

StandingStill

11-16-2005, 08:04 PM

Well, I mean, just read the band name. I'd guess they sound like Atreyu with worse lyrics and more obvious breakdowns.
Well done sir. They are probably better than Atreyu, but only in the way herpes is better than syphilis.

Sep

11-17-2005, 02:00 AM

I haven't heard any Embrace. And I can't even remember what Moss Icon sound like except that the song I heard was like a minute long.

Wow

11-17-2005, 02:32 AM

Sep, download Lyburnum Wits.

quick_death

11-17-2005, 11:04 AM

gooood song

whiteminority

11-17-2005, 11:45 AM

Oh, ok. I'd heard they were and they weren't, I think. What about Biffy Clyro? I wouldn't have thought they were emo, but I heard they were.
After much soul searching (read: actualy thinking about it) I've realised that I don't really object to emo. There's some crap music, as with any genre, and the fashion looks ridiculous to me, but those aren't reasons to discount it. So what are some good emo bands I should check out, now that I've decided to be open-minded about it? I've heard some Atreyu and Avenged Sevenfold (who were emo but aren't anymore?), and I didn't think they were great. My favourite bands right now are Rammstein, QOTSA, Placebo and System, if that helps reccomendations. Sorry if there's already a thread for this and I'm just wasting space in your community thread. Feel free to come spam up the PNWI community thread, it's all we ever do in it:).
well since you havnt heard a single emo band but like metal, I would say start with rites of spring, embrace, and early fugazi (obviously) but after that you might be more interested in the emo's schizophrenic daughter screamo: check out In/Humanity, Pg. 99, Orchid, The Red Scare, Hassan I Sabbah, Usurp Synapse, and After School KnifeFight. :)

Well, I mean, just read the band name. I'd guess they sound like Atreyu with worse lyrics and more obvious breakdowns.
yeah... outright terrible.

JimbobTheSquirrel

11-17-2005, 12:05 PM

well since you havnt heard a single emo band but like metal, I would say start with rites of spring, embrace, and early fugazi (obviously) but after that you might be more interested in the emo's schizophrenic daughter screamo: check out In/Humanity, Pg. 99, Orchid, The Red Scare, Hassan I Sabbah, Usurp Synapse, and After School KnifeFight. :)
Early Fugazi definitely, I already like some of their later stuff. I didn't mean to give the impression that I'm into metal, my taste is sort of... I wouldn't say eclectic, but spread around a bit. Not that I don't like metal, I just don't specificaly like it. I'll have a look around for the other stuff, thanks:)

whiteminority

11-17-2005, 12:08 PM

listening to that will make your friends think your selection of music eclectic as hell... just sit down and to tell them to listen dance tonight, revolution tommorow! and see how they look.

JimbobTheSquirrel

11-17-2005, 12:54 PM

listening to that will make your friends think your selection of music eclectic as hell...
Good... Good...
just sit down and to tell them to listen dance tonight, revolution tommorow! and see how they look.
Hahaha, good one!:lol:
i don't get it... unless you're just being wierd for wierdness's sake. that i get.

RCVA

11-17-2005, 01:03 PM

Is Bullet for my valentine considered scremo?
because they seriously rock.
Hand of blood \m/
They're British i think.

Pretty bad from what i've heard.

RCVA

11-17-2005, 01:08 PM

Oh, ok. I'd heard they were and they weren't, I think. What about Biffy Clyro? I wouldn't have thought they were emo, but I heard they were.
Good band but they aren't emo mate. More like pop-rock.

JimbobTheSquirrel

11-17-2005, 01:16 PM

Good band but they aren't emo mate. More like pop-rock.
So I thought. I didn't see how they were emo myself, but I think I read it in some stupid review...

RCVA

11-17-2005, 01:18 PM

I've got Infinity Land. It's good.

JimbobTheSquirrel

11-17-2005, 01:35 PM

I've got Infinity Land. It's good.
That being one of their albums? I don't particularily like them, they're ok, but I was only mentioning them to confirm my suspicions that they had nothing to do with emo.

quick_death

11-17-2005, 02:09 PM

great band pretty orginal aswell IMO

Special Brew

11-17-2005, 03:00 PM

I like Biffy Clyro from what I've heard.

cbmartinez

11-17-2005, 03:10 PM

I don't care what anyone says, Saetia is one of the best emo bands ever.

Mute Print

11-17-2005, 03:12 PM

I agree Chris. Awesome band.

Floydfanatic

11-17-2005, 03:12 PM

i've never heard saetia

cbmartinez

11-17-2005, 03:14 PM

Hot Cross is better though.

Mute Print

11-17-2005, 03:17 PM

I haven't listened to enough Hot Cross. I have Cyronics and Fair Trades and Fairwells, but I don't listen to them very often.

I do like them a lot though.

SGlove

11-18-2005, 12:17 AM

Nah.
Saetia is better.
The new stuff by Hot Cross sounds empty.
They need another guitarist.

StandingStill

11-18-2005, 03:49 AM

Anyone heard the new JR Ewing? I've heard the new stuff is a bit wierd.

Sep

11-18-2005, 03:58 AM

Sep, download Lyburnum Wits.

I just downloaded that. Incredible song.

I hadn't actually heard Moss Icon yet. I've always mistaken them with Heroin for some reason. Moss Icon are so much better though.

DFelon204409

11-18-2005, 07:58 AM

Jr Ewing reminds me of the Red Scare but in a poppier vein. They're okay. I have the album Ride Paranoia. I don't know what inspired me to get it but I have it.

SunnyDayRealEstateAM

11-18-2005, 08:11 AM

Guys I need bands like Saetia and Hot Cross for a mix I'm making my friend. I can't think of any bands besides CTTS.

Saturday Supercade

11-18-2005, 08:25 AM

I just downloaded that. Incredible song.

I hadn't actually heard Moss Icon yet. I've always mistaken them with Heroin for some reason. Moss Icon are so much better though.

nah..different not better.

Sep

11-18-2005, 10:52 AM

Guys I need bands like Saetia and Hot Cross for a mix I'm making my friend. I can't think of any bands besides CTTS.

As in bands that sound like Saetia/Hot Cross?

I don't think there's many bands that sound like them.
Maybe stick on some:

Joshua Fit For Battle
Jerome's Dream
Orchid
Belle Epoque
Dispensing Of False Halos
You And I
Bright Calm Blue
Kite Flying Society
City Of Caterpillar
Envy

Wow

11-18-2005, 10:54 AM

Guys I need bands like Saetia and Hot Cross for a mix I'm making my friend. I can't think of any bands besides CTTS.

Anasarca, the band Saetia ripped off.

Special Brew

11-18-2005, 11:28 AM

I've never even heard of Anasarca.

tornpictures

11-18-2005, 11:42 AM

Anasarca, the band Saetia ripped off.

So whered i you quote that from? I read it somewhere before. Anasarca aren't that good anyway.

whiteminority

11-18-2005, 11:50 AM

Good... Good...

Hahaha, good one!:lol:
i don't get it... unless you're just being wierd for wierdness's sake. that i get.
that would be the title of a really good album by orchid.

So whered i you quote that from? I read it somewhere before. Anasarca aren't that good anyway.
thats an old thread title off of vlv.

Wow

11-18-2005, 12:10 PM

So whered i you quote that from? I read it somewhere before. Anasarca aren't that good anyway.

It's not a quote. Ask Jamie from Saetia. He even admits they ripped a lot from Anasarca.

whiteminority

11-18-2005, 12:16 PM

new avatar.

EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN

11-18-2005, 01:50 PM

i don't see how you could think hot cross are better than saetia.

a new set of lungs was captivating, but other than that...

RetiredAt21

11-18-2005, 02:07 PM

I think Saetia is much better than Hot Cross.

Special Brew

11-18-2005, 02:07 PM

I don't completely consider hot Cross emo :-/

They're just too weird and I really don't feel the emotion in their music. Post hardcore seems like a better definition... I really enjoy them though.

RCVA

11-18-2005, 03:13 PM

Post hardcore seems like a better definition.
Nah.

deadohiosky9

11-18-2005, 03:39 PM

Hot Cross is better though.

hell yes. and Jamie told me he took a lot of inspiration from Anasarca in Saetia. Damien, you can't deny the emotion in Cryonics or A New Set Of Lungs. On Fairtrades, its def not as apparent, and he doesn't really scream anymore.

Also add I Would Set Myself On Fire For You on Sep's list.

cbmartinez

11-18-2005, 03:42 PM

Yeah, I was listening to Cryonics today and I think it's one of the best emo albums ever. The tracks just have so much movement and the instrumental technicality is so good. The last track is so ****ing awesome.

deadohiosky9

11-18-2005, 03:44 PM

Cryonics is my favorite album. Its just a very solid album throughout. Requiescat is an awesome track, but I think Pretty Picture Of A Broken Face is their best on that album.

cbmartinez

11-18-2005, 03:47 PM

The ending to "Pretty Picture..." is so good. My other favorites are "Dissertation: 14" and "A Tale For The Ages."

deadohiosky9

11-18-2005, 03:51 PM

I like A Tale For The Ages a lot too, it trails behind Pretty Picture..but In Memory of Morvern is another amazing track off that album. Patience and Prudence too.

quick_death

11-18-2005, 05:01 PM

there are no faults on cryonics whatsoever

whiteminority

11-18-2005, 05:08 PM

Hot Cross is better though.
Nah.

deadohiosky9

11-18-2005, 05:11 PM

i have a feeling their new record is going to be faultless.

Floydfanatic

11-18-2005, 05:29 PM

could someone send me cyronics maybe if it's not to much trouble?

aim:senorbatt

whiteminority

11-18-2005, 05:35 PM

i have a feeling their new record is going to be faultless.
you have a feeling that everything they do will be faultless.

deadohiosky9

11-18-2005, 05:43 PM

could someone send me cyronics maybe if it's not to much trouble?

aim:senorbatt

i'll send it to you.

whiteminority

11-18-2005, 05:50 PM

youre just on a sending spree arnt ya neeshee.

about to listen to cryonics.

deadohiosky9

11-18-2005, 05:52 PM

haha yes i am. enjoy that album.

Wow

11-18-2005, 07:12 PM

Neeshee, Hot Cross aren't the only band ever. It's okay to listen to other music.

deadohiosky9

11-18-2005, 07:15 PM

I haven't listened to hot cross in two days. I'm currently in an Against! Me, and The Snake The Cross The Crown addiction.

Wow

11-18-2005, 07:19 PM

I haven't listened to hot cross in two days. I'm currently in an Against! Me, and The Snake The Cross The Crown addiction.

Neeshee there's no need to lie. This is a safe place. We won't judge you. It's okay. I'm not here to laugh, I'm here to help.

Wow

11-18-2005, 08:07 PM

Why the hell was Neeshee banned?

Floydfanatic

11-18-2005, 08:12 PM

because of that link that shredder posted

NOONE CLICK THE SHREDDER POST

Liberi Fatali

11-18-2005, 08:21 PM

Why the hell was Neeshee banned?
He clicked one of Chad's cookie stealing links.

Floydfanatic

11-18-2005, 08:22 PM

liberi

i clicked it

!!! :(

Special Brew

11-18-2005, 08:23 PM

liberi

i clicked it

!!! :(
Watch your posts and delete the next post you make before they get a chance to ban you. You'll probably be posting a link somewhere soon.

Liberi Fatali

11-18-2005, 08:24 PM

liberi

i clicked it

!!! :(
Change your password, clear your cookies then sign in again. :)

If you're using firefox you should be safe, but do it anyway.

Special Brew

11-18-2005, 08:28 PM

I use Firefox and he got me. :-/

Wow

11-18-2005, 09:02 PM

I use Firefox and nothing happened to me. Win.

Edit: Atleast that I know of. :p

Edit2: Guinness is delicious.

Floydfanatic

11-18-2005, 09:10 PM

edit3: i'm ****ing hungry

StandingStill

11-19-2005, 04:11 AM

Ash, your new avatar is amazing.

whiteminority

11-19-2005, 06:37 AM

Neeshee there's no need to lie. This is a safe place. We won't judge you. It's okay. I'm not here to laugh, I'm here to help.
He'll never admit that all he does is listen to those quirky boys from up in Mass.

Sep

11-19-2005, 07:06 AM

I just listened to In Memory Of Morvern and I am blown away. I got that fuzzy feeling in my stomach you only get when you're listening to something really incredible. My mum's letting me order Cryonics on wednesday.

DFelon204409

11-19-2005, 12:23 PM

Edit2: Guinness is delicious.

FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:23 AM): f
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:24 AM): d
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:26 AM): i lolv oe you
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:29 AM): ij love you man
D Felon 204409 (1:09:34 AM): thanks
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:34 AM): i'm fuso cikgin drunk
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:36 AM): <3 you
D Felon 204409 (1:09:40 AM): i can tell
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:41 AM): i wan t you r hot bdy
D Felon 204409 (1:09:46 AM): thursday night is indeed the party night
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:10:02 AM): evertgf night's a part night when uyoi go ot online schol
D Felon 204409 (1:11:04 AM): this is true
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:11:49 AM): Dude i'ma like
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:12:05 AM): go madhturbate to some porn ab oiut gikrfl s sucjkging a bnouncer's cockm
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:12:05 AM): :D
D Felon 204409 (1:13:01 AM): okay

Floydfanatic

11-19-2005, 12:30 PM

sweet

Wow

11-19-2005, 12:33 PM

FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:23 AM): f
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:24 AM): d
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:26 AM): i lolv oe you
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:29 AM): ij love you man
D Felon 204409 (1:09:34 AM): thanks
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:34 AM): i'm fuso cikgin drunk
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:36 AM): <3 you
D Felon 204409 (1:09:40 AM): i can tell
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:09:41 AM): i wan t you r hot bdy
D Felon 204409 (1:09:46 AM): thursday night is indeed the party night
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:10:02 AM): evertgf night's a part night when uyoi go ot online schol
D Felon 204409 (1:11:04 AM): this is true
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:11:49 AM): Dude i'ma like
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:12:05 AM): go madhturbate to some animal photographs ab oiut gikrfl s sucjkging a bnouncer's cockm
FuzzyLlamaOfDoom (1:12:05 AM): :D
D Felon 204409 (1:13:01 AM): okay

Yeah. Whenever I drink I tell everyone online that I love them. I'm a loving drunk.

And I don't appreciate the "animal photographs," mister!

SubtleDagger

11-19-2005, 12:34 PM

Yeah. Whenever I drink I tell everyone online that I love them. I'm a loving drunk.

And I don't appreciate the "animal photographs," mister!
"Animal photographs" was the only thing you spelled right, oddly enough.

I bet you just have a one-track mind. >_>

Wow

11-19-2005, 12:44 PM

"Animal photographs" was the only thing you spelled right, oddly enough.

I bet you just have a one-track mind. >_>

When I said I didn't appreciate it, I mean he added it and I never actually said it. :p

I did tell him I was gonna play with myself, though.

whiteminority

11-19-2005, 12:44 PM

oh my. :lol:

SubtleDagger

11-19-2005, 12:45 PM

Oh sure, so you never said it.

I see how it is.

Special Brew

11-19-2005, 12:46 PM

oh u sillys

Wow

11-19-2005, 01:48 PM

Oh sure, so you never said it.

I see how it is.

:upset:

deadohiosky8

11-19-2005, 02:12 PM

woo i'm back on this account. i use firefox and it still got me, i think. i havent been unbanned to be able to change my password though.

whiteminority

11-19-2005, 02:35 PM

nice neeshee. so i listen to cryonics and on a scale of a 10 it gets 6.7.

cbmartinez

11-19-2005, 02:36 PM

Wrong.

whiteminority

11-19-2005, 02:38 PM

no correct it wasnt that good, the thing that got me was the guitars. im too lazy to actually write a review for it though.

deadohiosky8

11-19-2005, 02:42 PM

Wrong.

:thumb:

cbmartinez

11-19-2005, 02:43 PM

Act Your Age Or Act Alone!

whiteminority

11-19-2005, 02:46 PM

:thumb:
well pooh on you.

deadohiosky8

11-19-2005, 02:50 PM

Act Your Age Or Act Alone!

hahahahaah. how appropriate. but there's no strength in numbers.

Wow

11-19-2005, 02:51 PM

Wrong.

Chris, grow up. Your immaturity's getting old.

Oh and no this isn't just about the Cryonics thing. Just felt like getting that message out.

whiteminority

11-19-2005, 02:52 PM

oh nice.

SubtleDagger

11-19-2005, 02:52 PM

Hey you're that guy who gets drunk on the internet.

REAL MATURE MISTER >:|

deadohiosky8

11-19-2005, 02:54 PM

hahahaha.

whiteminority

11-19-2005, 02:55 PM

Hey you're that guy who gets drunk on the internet.

REAL MATURE MISTER >:|
:lol:

Wow

11-19-2005, 02:56 PM

Hey you're that guy who gets drunk on the internet.

REAL MATURE MISTER >:|

Actually no. I got drunk downstairs and then stumbled up to get something and Dfelon was on so I told him I loved him.

A for effort. :thumb:

Oh and I told about three other people I love them too. Forgot about that.

SubtleDagger

11-19-2005, 02:57 PM

Actually no. I got drunk downstairs and then stumbled up to get something

Animal photographs?

>_>

MissingTheShore

11-19-2005, 02:58 PM

Label.

Label The Lie.

Label.

Label The Lie.

Wow

11-19-2005, 02:59 PM

Animal photographs?

>_>

I told you before, I didn't write that. I jokingly told him I was going to "masturbate to a porno about girls sucking off a bouncer" or something. He added in the "animal photographs" just to poke fun at me.

And look at that. The swear filter adds the animal photographs. Woo.

SubtleDagger

11-19-2005, 03:01 PM

Oh sure, it just "adds them in".

STOP WITH YOUR SLANDER

deadohiosky8

11-19-2005, 03:02 PM

Label.

Label The Lie.

Label.

Label The Lie.

mmhmm.

Wow

11-19-2005, 03:03 PM

Oh sure, it just "adds them in".

STOP WITH YOUR SLANDER

Type "p o r n" without the spaces.

cbmartinez

11-19-2005, 03:04 PM

Chris, grow up. Your immaturity's getting old.

Oh and no this isn't just about the Cryonics thing. Just felt like getting that message out.

Okay, I won't tell people they're wrong in a joking way anymore. Instead I'll reccomend them some obscure, terribly recorded "midwest" emo band that I found out about yesterday and have proclaimed them my new favorite band (and I'm totally looking into buying their 7".)

Wow

11-19-2005, 03:07 PM

Okay, I won't tell people they're wrong in a joking way anymore. Instead I'll reccomend them some obscure, terribly recorded "midwest" emo band that I found out about yesterday and have proclaimed them my new favorite band and am currently looking into buying their 7".

That's the immaturity I'm talking about. Notice how I said it wasn't just about the Cryonics thing. Get over yourself.

SubtleDagger

11-19-2005, 03:07 PM

Type "p o r n" without the spaces.
What about porn?

We are talking about your sick animal photograph fetish here.

cbmartinez

11-19-2005, 03:10 PM

That's the immaturity I'm talking about. Notice how I said it wasn't just about the Cryonics thing. Get over yourself.

Please tell me what you're talking about then?

Arrakakaka

11-19-2005, 03:12 PM

I need it badly :(

Wow

11-19-2005, 03:14 PM

Please tell me what you're talking about then?

Me: Hey I'm Ash and I don't like something Chris likes.
Chris: Hmmm, why don't we ask BOB TILTON what he likes?

Me: Hey I'm Ash and I don't like something Chris likes.
Chris: hay toru okada rulez (When you previously stated you'd hated them, therefore, sarcasm.)
Me: Making fun of me for like Toru Okada is immature.

Me: Hey I'm Ash and I don't like something Chris likes.
Chris: Tilly and the Wall.
Me: What about them?
Chris: They suck.
Me: No they don't and how does that relate to this conversation?

Just a few examples.

Edit: Is it just Neeshee and I who are having mad MX lag?

cbmartinez

11-19-2005, 03:16 PM

Wow

11-19-2005, 03:18 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I admit to doing the Bob Tilton thing but I was joking. You act like you never joke around with the **** I listen to. Whatever man. I like you, you're a funny kid. But if I'm too immature, whatever.

I made fun of you for liking Chevelle once. Other than that, I've never brought it up in a coversation when it doesn't relate to it whatsoever.

Now if we're talking about how awesome our tastes are and why we're cooler than eachother, that's another story. :p

SubtleDagger

11-19-2005, 03:18 PM

Edit: Is it just Neeshee and I who are having mad MX lag?
Tryxx just did an IP scan. It's done now.

cbmartinez

11-19-2005, 03:20 PM

I made fun of you for liking Chevelle once. Other than that, I've never brought it up in a coversation when it doesn't relate to it whatsoever.

Now if we're talking about how awesome our tastes are and why we're cooler than eachother, that's another story. :p

So e-friends?