Emo Community Thread

[penelope_weird_hands]

hahahhahaha..!
ah well.

[Sep]

I always thought the Action Index by Orchid was really good.

[Special Brew]

Anything by Orchid is good, silly billy!

[RetiredAt21]

^^^^^Agreed

[whiteminority]

Amherst Pandemonium Part 1. I go to Williams and Amherst is our rival so I like to imagine them being torn apart to the music of Orchid.
:lol: :thumb:

[whiteminority]

Anything by Orchid is good, silly billy!
yes, you are absolutely right.

[Saturday Supercade]

yes, you are absolutely right.

Well, I don't think they are that great..

/seeks cover

[Saturday Supercade]

I mean there good...but not great...

[Special Brew]

I mean there good...but not great...
:angry:

[spaztik]

I'm trying to find orchid songs online, but I can't. Can anyone tell me where to find some?

[Special Brew]

Soulseek. I have quite a bit by them, my username is 'Damien Rhodes'.

Who the hell is Scary Kids Scaring Kids? That is one faggoty name.

[conniption]

check slsk for orchid.

[spaztik]

Pardon my ignorance, but what's slsk?

[Electric Ocean]

Soulseek. (http://www.slsknet.org) It's a peer to peer filesharing network, it's pretty good for underground/hard to find music.

[Special Brew]

Soulseek > Everything

Except maybe BitTorrent, but I still can't figure out how it works.

[whiteminority]

Soulseek. I have quite a bit by them, my username is 'Damien Rhodes'.

Who the hell is Scary Kids Scaring Kids? That is one faggoty name.
Never heard of the band called that, but it is also the name of a cool song by Cap'n Jazz.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

They're one of those Underoath/Emery type bands. I havn't heard much by them.

[whiteminority]

I ****ing hate bands like Emery so much. :angry:


EDIT: 1000 POSTS :cool: :chug:

[Special Brew]

I've never heard Emery, but I like Underoath.

[whiteminority]

Underoath is alright, I don't mind most of their stuff but I hate seeing them live (with Fear Before and The Chariot) they suck so much.

[Special Brew]

Underoath is alright, I don't mind most of their stuff but I hate seeing them live (with Fear Before and The Chariot) they suck so much.
That is definately the wrong crowd for them :lol:

[whiteminority]

Well a hundred twelve year old girls left as soon as they finished Re-Inventing Your Exit.

[DFelon204409]

Ya. That's good. That means they'll leave before Thrice.

[whiteminority]

Thrice headlining a tour with Underoath? Ooh has it already started?

[hey, you're not cory!]

I'm going to that :D

[DFelon204409]

I just started my Jazz Theory and Improv class today and I'm doing the listening assignment. It's freaking cool to be able to consider learning songs on guitar and listening to sick songs as homework. Also, I started Rugby today and I am pumped to kill some fools.

[Special Brew]

I just started my Jazz Theory and Improv class today and I'm doing the listening assignment. It's freaking cool to be able to consider learning songs on guitar and listening to sick songs as homework. Also, I started Rugby today and I am pumped to kill some fools.
Just wait 'til you have to do ear training. It's a real bitch. :upset:

[StandingStill]

Just wait 'til you have to do ear training. It's a real bitch. :upset:
Theory kills creativity. Beware.

[Special Brew]

Theory kills creativity. Beware.
That is not true. Theory helps you express your creativity.

[DFelon204409]

Just wait 'til you have to do ear training. It's a real bitch. :upset:

Just wait till I pizzowned joo with 5 years of jazz training and 10 years of guitar and I am so mod dunrx right now rugby is the best sopirt on earth i sweart.

/mod irrelsp[onsebiility

[DFelon204409]

fuxors pqwn teh censors

[Special Brew]

:lol: Wtf?

[StandingStill]

Drunk? Anyways, the thing about theory is the more you learn, the more structured and obvious your playing you'll become. Just go to the guitar forums and listen to them talk about Malsteem and Vai. Obviously there are exceptions, but I feel if you learn classical guitar from the age of 5 then your gonna dismiss most hardcore as rubbish, just because its not difficult to play.

[whiteminority]

Incorporating jazz style playing with metal sounds really good if you do it right. (Candiria, some Psy0pus)

[-1up!-]

Theory kills creativity. Beware.
I concur. I think being self-taught is the best way to express creativity to its fullest.

[Nataroo]

Its all about the tech. Theory comes in mad useful if you want to write multiple parts though.

[DFelon204409]

I concur. I think being self-taught is the best way to express creativity to its fullest.

But you self-teach based off of the music you listen to. That's how individual styles are created. People's personalities are formed by their unique take on their influences. Knowing theory will only destroy your playing style if you're a total tool who treats theory like the only way to form good songs. If you have good creativity you can optimally use it in your own special way. Get it?

[StandingStill]

But you self-teach based off of the music you listen to. That's how individual styles are created. People's personalities are formed by their unique take on their influences. Knowing theory will only destroy your playing style if you're a total tool who treats theory like the only way to form good songs. If you have good creativity you can optimally use it in your own special way. Get it?
I understand what your saying. But your wrong. Theory teaches your brain to associate certain scales, chords, patterns together. Sub-consciously. It helps train your brain to find a pleasing series of sounds, rhythms and structures. It affects EVERYTHING to do with your playing style. No one is saying that learning theory will completely stop any form of creativity and reduce you shredding constantly, because it depends heavily on the individual involved. I dont believe being self-taught is the way to truely express yourself either by the way... Your digestion of music, your age, your natural creativity are all factors in the creation of music. A friend of mine once told me to learn everything and then try and forget it all to help allow your individuality to come through again. Just look at the decline of jazz since they began to apply theory to it. If you have good creativity and your a genius then congratulations, well done, your going to be fine. If you aren't as creative then I dont see how a bit of friendly advice can be harmful. Get it?

[Special Brew]

Jazz isn't declining, it is growing. THeory may cause some people to become emotionless robots, but that is't true for even half of the people playing jazz. Theory allows to know what you are doing and express your creativity even better. Theory does not teach you precise structures and patterns. It's actually the opposite, you learn to break normal bou ndaries and express yourself in ways you never could before. Just because someone knows theory, doesn't mean they always abide by the rules and scales, look at Al Di Meola. He is one of the greatest guitar players alive and constantly plays things that sounds way off key or that go out of conventional patterns. And if you say he has no creativity, you have no business playing music.

[StandingStill]

Re-read my post please I think you completely missed what I was saying. I wasnt attacking theory as much as explaining how the brain processes certain information.

I'm no jazz expert, but as far as I'm aware after the initial explosion it lost of its focus (or lack of it) and was swallowed by people attempting to over-analyse it. I will check out this Di Meola fellow sounds interesting....

[-1up!-]

But you self-teach based off of the music you listen to. That's how individual styles are created. People's personalities are formed by their unique take on their influences. Knowing theory will only destroy your playing style if you're a total tool who treats theory like the only way to form good songs. If you have good creativity you can optimally use it in your own special way. Get it?

Of course I get it. But I'm better without theory without being a total tool who treats theory like the absolute truth. I've always been this way, happier and more satisfied with myself when developping my own things without help.

Of course we are self-taught based on the music we listen to; still, that doesn't come near being taught theory. You still have the choice of what you listen to, but not (or, to a lesser extent) what a teacher may teach you.

[DFelon204409]

I understand what your saying. But your wrong. Theory teaches your brain to associate certain scales, chords, patterns together. Sub-consciously. It helps train your brain to find a pleasing series of sounds, rhythms and structures. It affects EVERYTHING to do with your playing style. No one is saying that learning theory will completely stop any form of creativity and reduce you shredding constantly, because it depends heavily on the individual involved. I dont believe being self-taught is the way to truely express yourself either by the way... Your digestion of music, your age, your natural creativity are all factors in the creation of music. A friend of mine once told me to learn everything and then try and forget it all to help allow your individuality to come through again. Just look at the decline of jazz since they began to apply theory to it. If you have good creativity and your a genius then congratulations, well done, your going to be fine. If you aren't as creative then I dont see how a bit of friendly advice can be harmful. Get it?

You're showing how shallow your understanding of theory is. You're treating theory like a rulebook. It's only a set of guidelines. Theory is just a transcribed expression of music that actually exists. Dillinger Escape Plan songs are immensely creative and cannot really be explained by means of normal music theory because they are original guys who have taken their pretty good knowledge of music and totally turned that on its head by means of their own creativity. However, a lot of Dillinger's methods can be explained by Jazz Theory and and Chromatic Harmony Theory. Theory is not a "do this do that this sounds good that sounds bad" thing. It's the exact opposite. It describes the originality of other people and allows people to learn from that and recombine it with their own personality and style.

[Special Brew]

Perfectly said, DFelon.

[StandingStill]

You're all showing your inabillity to read a post. All look at the word 'sub-consciously'. Got it? Good. Find me the point where I treat theory like a rule-book?

I'll spell it out more simply. I was trying to explain the way the brain 'likes' to hear certain sounds. I'm not saying theory is 'evil' and stops people from being creative, I am saying that is scientific fact that in the same way as children are attracted to bright colours, harmonic sounds are pleasant. We enjoy hearing them on a basic, instinctive level. If you play something disonant your brain doesnt react to it in the same way as something harmonious. This is why classical music stimulates brain wave activity and listening to Merzbow for too long gives you a headache ( I like Merzbow, I dont wanna hear a rant about how amazing he is). A combination of this and muscle memory means often on a subconscious level people will run through certain ways of playing in certain modes. Which is why sometimes learning too much theory can be detrimental to a musicians progress. I've studied theory and when my friend advised me to 'forget' it all, he didnt mean everything I'd learnt was useless, just that if you think to hard about practically applying what you've learnt it can suffocate you. Beware. I think you have to be careful of how you approach learning things.

Also as far as I know we are in the emo/screamo thread so shouldnt that mean we are talking about theory application to emo/screamo bands? To some extent it could be argued that the emotional nature of the genre would dictate that the music should be as heartfelt and honest as possible. I'm aware that you can be tech and passionate, but Rites Of Spring certainly weren't. Just a thought, not being too serious there.

Finally, not trying to stir the pot any more or anything but as a massive DEP fan, most of the bands they've influenced seem to just switch time signatures and sweep all the time. Which isn't really what makes DEP so good.

[Special Brew]

Tech + Passion = Hot Cross

I want to see where you have read this studies though. I don't believe studying theory is going to make you think dissonance sounds horrible. Look at bands like Ion Dissonance(coincidence :p) and Between the Buried and Me, perhaps even Penderecki. They heavily apply theory to their music and use plenty of dissonant sounds.

[DFelon204409]

You're all showing your inabillity to read a post. All look at the word 'sub-consciously'. Got it? Good. Find me the point where I treat theory like a rule-book?

I'll spell it out more simply. I was trying to explain the way the brain 'likes' to hear certain sounds. I'm not saying theory is 'evil' and stops people from being creative, I am saying that is scientific fact that in the same way as children are attracted to bright colours, harmonic sounds are pleasant. We enjoy hearing them on a basic, instinctive level. If you play something disonant your brain doesnt react to it in the same way as something harmonious. This is why classical music stimulates brain wave activity and listening to Merzbow for too long gives you a headache ( I like Merzbow, I dont wanna hear a rant about how amazing he is). A combination of this and muscle memory means often on a subconscious level people will run through certain ways of playing in certain modes. Which is why sometimes learning too much theory can be detrimental to a musicians progress. I've studied theory and when my friend advised me to 'forget' it all, he didnt mean everything I'd learnt was useless, just that if you think to hard about practically applying what you've learnt it can suffocate you. Beware. I think you have to be careful of how you approach learning things.

Also as far as I know we are in the emo/screamo thread so shouldnt that mean we are talking about theory application to emo/screamo bands? To some extent it could be argued that the emotional nature of the genre would dictate that the music should be as heartfelt and honest as possible. I'm aware that you can be tech and passionate, but Rites Of Spring certainly weren't. Just a thought, not being too serious there.

Finally, not trying to stir the pot any more or anything but as a massive DEP fan, most of the bands they've influenced seem to just switch time signatures and sweep all the time. Which isn't really what makes DEP so good.

I understood what you were saying but chose to ignore your BS "scientific" analysis of the human brain. So I guess the best way to be original is to lock yourself in a dark room and never ever listen to any music other than anything you create. Nothing will subconsciously taint your unique style. Standing Still, I understand hwat you're getting at, and I know a lot of people abuse the idea of music theory, but the way I use it and most people should I feel, is as a lighthouse. That is, if you're straying too far from something sensible you at least have the foundation to work yourself back if you want to. It's just something to remember as you're sailing along.

[StandingStill]

Ok I know who Hot Cross are, wasn't looking for examples. You definately not getting this. It doesnt make you think dissonance sounds horrible. Your brain already doesnt like dissonant noise, from birth, its why you flinch when someone hits a bum not playing guitar or singing out of tune. I like Wolf Eyes who sound like an industrial accident, but thats my conscious selective musical taste and not my deep-rooted instinct. On a very simple, sub-conscious level.
Look on Google for any study on the way the brain reacts to music and sound.

[Special Brew]

Your brain has a reaction to it, but theory isn't going to make it so you can't recreate those noises. If anything, it will make it even easier. Theory doesn't cause your brain to make you play in certain patterns.

[StandingStill]

I understood what you were saying but chose to ignore your BS "scientific" analysis of the human brain. So I guess the best way to be original is to lock yourself in a dark room and never ever listen to any music other than anything you create. Nothing will subconsciously taint your unique style. Standing Still, I understand hwat you're getting at, and I know a lot of people abuse the idea of music theory, but the way I use it and most people should I feel, is as a lighthouse. That is, if you're straying too far from something sensible you at least have the foundation to work yourself back if you want to. It's just something to remember as you're sailing along.
Ok, its not bull****. Its fact. Or at least theory! Whether you like it or not. Sorry. I don't care enough to trawl my psychology notes to appease you. I am obviously not suggesting the best way to be creative is to lock yourself up from birth with a guitar, I was suggesting learning theory can be detrimental to your creativity. That was a ridiculous cheap shot. Shame on you.
I think we are agreed that theory should be something to fall back on. I like to use it when I get stuck on something I've been writing, then work out what type/style of chord progression I'm playing and use that to help me come up with something else.

[deadohiosky9]

Tech + Passion = Hot Cross

.

Josh never took any lessons, or learned any theory, and hes a dam.n good guitarist.

[StandingStill]

Your brain has a reaction to it, but theory isn't going to make it so you can't recreate those noises. If anything, it will make it even easier. Theory doesn't cause your brain to make you play in certain patterns.
It does. Don't you practice your scales?

[Special Brew]

Yes, I practice my scales, and I know a little bit of theory. I still play plenty of dissonant chords and guitar lines. By what you say, people who study heavily in theory automatically cannot make dissonant sounds because their brain is trained to create melodic sounds. Which is outright wrong.

[StandingStill]

Thats not what I'm saying! Its just makes it harder to break from that for some people.

[DFelon204409]

Thats not what I'm saying! Its just makes it harder to break from that for some people.

I don't know if you've listened to my senior project songs or not (www.purevolume.com/greer) but I mostly made those up out of moments that incited an emotion in me rather than some theoretical attempt at musical perfection. My theory training was only the helpful hand in the mix, which also included all the music I've listened to, all the guitar I've learned, the extra curricular influences (friends, family, sluts, etc.), and lastly my personality, which comprised 50% of that mofo.

/drunk mod

Rugby is insane jesus christ. But ya, I'll bring a more cunning retort tomorrow.

[deadohiosky9]

Are you doing the vocals in that senior project Dfelon?

[StandingStill]

I don't know if you've listened to my senior project songs or not (www.purevolume.com/greer) but I mostly made those up out of moments that incited an emotion in me rather than some theoretical attempt at musical perfection. My theory training was only the helpful hand in the mix, which also included all the music I've listened to, all the guitar I've learned, the extra curricular influences (friends, family, sluts, etc.), and lastly my personality, which comprised 50% of that mofo.

/drunk mod

Rugby is insane jesus christ. But ya, I'll bring a more cunning retort tomorrow.
Those songs are musically pretty good, not so sure about the vocals. The way you described creating those songs is the way people should really approach music. I think I have been twisted by having to play in someblues band in college where this dude just played the most generic crap I've ever heard. I am the only member of my real band to know any real theory and I play bass.
http://www.myspace.com/shutyoureyesandyoullburstintoflames
I didn't know Americans played rugby, I played out on the wing for my college at one stage. You play league or union?

[DFelon204409]

Uhhh. I play college. Division 2. Whatever that means.

The vocals are a mix of me and my friend, but mostly my friend. We did the vocals in 2 hours. That's it. That explains how they are weaker.

[StandingStill]

hmmm. When you get tackled, does the defence have to stop and get 10 yards away from the ball?

[whiteminority]

Uhhh. I play college. Division 2. Whatever that means.

The vocals are a mix of me and my friend, but mostly my friend. We did the vocals in 2 hours. That's it. That explains how they are weaker.
league and union are two different styles of playing. im not sure but i think rugby league is the more common version.

[DFelon204409]

hmmm. When you get tackled, does the defence have to stop and get 10 yards away from the ball?

No. So I guess league. We ruck. It rules. Today we did around 40n scrums. So brutal.

[whiteminority]

rugby is awesome. our high school has a team and they went to state, the girls team went to ****ing nationals, they are really good.

[yapper1200]

why r u talking about rugby in a music forum?

[whiteminority]

this is the community thread, its open to whatever basically but its usually about music. we talk about rugby because it kicks ***.


also spell your words out none of that r and u crap that is not allowed here.

[yapper1200]

Fine.
do you know the band lost prophets
if you do what genre are they? punk or something else?

[whiteminority]

yes I know who the lost prophets are, they started off as nu metal and they are now pop-music. do not ever come into this thread and talk about lost prophets again they are nowhere near the parameters of what this forum covers.

[Arrakakaka]

Tru dat.

[yapper1200]

sorry i didn't know i was just wondering because all their songs sound like different genres i don't like them or anything
does Mindless Self Indulgence fit into this forum or is it just Punk?

[whiteminority]

i had to get a little genre nazi out of me i havnt schooled any noobs in a while.

[yapper1200]

i had to get a little genre nazi out of me i havnt schooled any noobs in a while.

lol it's cool

[whiteminority]

sorry i didn't know i was just wondering because all their songs sound like different genres i don't like them or anything
does Mindless Self Indulgence fit into this forum or is it just Punk?
MSI is not in here and i suggest you not take into punk because they take pride in being mean in there. why dont you try the pop-punk forum and look for the power pop.

[whiteminority]

i have a question for you yapper1200. have you heard of any of the emo bands listed on page 1?

[yapper1200]

ok so in here do we like talk about As I Lay Dying or what about Most Precious Blood?

[whiteminority]

neither in this particular thread but you can try MPB in the hardcore/metalcore community thread. and you will get a better response to AILD in R&M.

[yapper1200]

i have a question for you yapper1200. have you heard of any of the emo bands listed on page 1?

Moss Icon
Julia
Rites of Spring
Heroin
and a few more

[whiteminority]

name a song by each of 'em.

[whiteminority]

oh fifteen minutes and not a single name.
owned.

[yapper1200]

Guatamaula
The Bravery
Thoughts Come Through
And I Don't Know any by julia i was just recomended them today but i've still heard of them

[whiteminority]

hold on lemme double check on those.

[whiteminority]

my computer is being a bitch so i cant double check those songs but im not sure on em. but i dont care im too ****ing lazy to genre bitch anymore.

EDIT: for Julia check out Tonguebiting.

[Wow]

Guatamaula
The Bravery
Thoughts Come Through
And I Don't Know any by julia i was just recomended them today but i've still heard of them


I checked my Heroin, Moss Icon, and Rites of Spring folders and didn't find a single song even resembling those. Maybe I don't have them, but I doubt that.

[yapper1200]

check again
i just listend to them

[yapper1200]

my computer is being a bitch so i cant double check those songs but im not sure on em. but i dont care im too ****ing lazy to genre bitch anymore.

EDIT: for Julia check out Tonguebiting.

can't find tounguebiting are you sure that's how it's spelt???

[cbmartinez]

Julia stuff is kinda hard to find I think.

[deadohiosky9]

there is a Moss Icon song called Guatemala.

[Wow]

Julia's stuff is mad hard to find. I have it all, though.

[cbmartinez]

*slow clap*

[yapper1200]

any other good songs?

[Wow]

The Death of an Aspiring Icon by The Khayembii Communqiue

[-1up!-]

This thread has become harsh. Where's the love? It'll become harder for kids to get into emo than for a fat chick to lose her virginity.

[deadohiosky9]

any other good songs?

Indian Summer- Angry Son.

Saetia- An Open Letter

City of Caterpillar- A Heart Filled Reaction To Dissatisfaction

[DFelon204409]

Those are like the three most token emo songs ever hahaha. Why don't you mention "In the Nervous Light of Sunday" by Circle Takes the Square too?

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Neil Perry - You Can't Fight Jose Quervo and Win

[deadohiosky9]

Those are like the three most token emo songs ever hahaha. Why don't you mention "In the Nervous Light of Sunday" by Circle Takes the Square too?

lmao, i should have.

[tornpictures]

I checked my Heroin, Moss Icon, and Rites of Spring folders and didn't find a single song even resembling those. Maybe I don't have them, but I doubt that.

Guatamala is a Moss Icon song.

And if you check out Julia, don't download the Lp because it's ****. Grab the 7"s. And it isn't 'mad hard' to find.

[whiteminority]

check again
i just listend to them
sorry yapper i was purposely trying to be a dick, but it appears you obviously know your stuff. welcome to the forum. :chug:

[Saturday Supercade]

And if you check out Julia, don't download the Lp because it's ****. Grab the 7"s. And it isn't 'mad hard' to find.

No I think the Lp is good to! Scarification and End are among the best emo-songs ever.
(Still want that 7" though :) )

[Wow]

Guatamala is a Moss Icon song.

And if you check out Julia, don't download the Lp because it's ****. Grab the 7"s. And it isn't 'mad hard' to find.


It's hard to find. I couldn't find a single song 'till i got ahold of your stuff. :p

[-1up!-]

I just got Doppelganger from The Fall of Troy, and I'm just as excited as a kid waiting for candies on Halloween morning.

I like how they remixed "I Just got This Symphony Goin'". I haven't had time to check out the others, so I'll get back to that.

I strongly suspect them of being my favorite band.

[deadohiosky9]

Doppelganger is awesome. I love it.

[whiteminority]

circle takes the square + heavy marijuana use = awesome time... :thumb:

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I'm glad your having fun.

[whiteminority]

yeah i am because i am about to listen to my favorite song. non-objective portrait of karma.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I love that song. Have they found a drummer yet?

[whiteminority]

ME!






i wish :upset:

[whiteminority]

also for all interested check hot crosses myspace, they posted a killer new song.

im out.

[deadohiosky9]

the new hot cross song is awesome. and i believe CTTS has found a new drummer, according to their latest blog on Myspace.

[DFelon204409]

it's all gud

[Special Brew]

I <3 CTTS so friggin' much.

[ohsoXmurderous]

I heard they were horrible in concert.

..I haven't gotten to see for myself yet though.

[Wow]

They aren't.

[Sep]

Since when did everyone start loving Orchid in here?

I think they're very overrated. They sound like Joshua Fit For Battle except JFFB are so much better.

[StandingStill]

I heard they were horrible in concert.

..I haven't gotten to see for myself yet though.
Nah. Mindblowing, maybe better than recorded actually. I hope the bassist gets more vocals on the new album, cos shes got a killer voice.

[Wow]

Since when did everyone start loving Orchid in here?

I think they're very overrated. They sound like Joshua Fit For Battle except JFFB are so much better.


JFFB are so much better than every band.

[quick_death]

orchid are a great band.but yer a bit over rated.
at the moment pg.99 beats all for me

[Special Brew]

Orchid <3

I didn't even know other people loved them until I saw them brought up awhile ago. They have been one of my favorite emo bands for a few months now.

[DFelon204409]

Ya man lots of people give them so much cred.

[RetiredAt21]

Pg. 99 are hella good.

[whiteminority]

Since when did everyone start loving Orchid in here?

I think they're very overrated. They sound like Joshua Fit For Battle except JFFB are so much better.
Orchid > Pg. 99 > Joshua Fit For Battle

[Wow]

Joshua Fit For Battle > Orchid > Pg. 99 < Kite Flying Society

[DFelon204409]

Uh ohhhh.

[-1up!-]

Love Like...Electrocution beats all of those bands.

/flame suit equipped

[Mute Print]

I just downloaded some Kite Flying Society, and they're awesome. I like Pg. 99 and Orchid too. I've never heard Love Like...Electrocution or Joshua Fit For Battle, though.

[royman2001]

Which Hot Cross album should I download first if I were to get into them?

[fathergoat]

I think most would say Cryonics

[StandingStill]

I certainly would.

[deadohiosky9]

Definitely Cryonics, then get Fair Trades and Farewells.

[cbmartinez]

Love Lost But Not Forgotten > Kite Flying Society > pageninetynine > Orchid > Joshua Fit For Battle > Love Like... Electrocution

[royman2001]

Cyonics it is then.

[Special Brew]

I haven't heard Love Like... Electrocution or Kite Flying Society. But I'm pretty sure Orchid is better, hehe.

/downloads

Funeral Diner > All other bands mentioned

[deadohiosky9]

Speaking of Funeral Diner, have any of you heard the songs off their new tour only 10", The Swept Under? they are really good.

[Special Brew]

I haven't heard it. I didn't even know about that. :(

[-1up!-]

Love Lost But Not Forgotten > Kite Flying Society > pageninetynine > Orchid > Joshua Fit For Battle > Love Like... Electrocution
:( :mad: :angry: :evil:

:smash:
:eek: -> You

[whiteminority]

Orchid > all screamo

Love Lost But Not Forgotten is third, with Kite-Flying Society second.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

The Assistant is better than those bands.

[whiteminority]

nah

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Just maybe.

[whiteminority]

no screamo band is than orchid and they barely beat the kite flying society.

[deadohiosky9]

If anyone wants The Swept Under, hit me up on AIM, Neeshacker.

[whiteminority]

is that a band or album. i = stupid and not up to date.

[Special Brew]

You don't read threads either.

Speaking of Funeral Diner, have any of you heard the songs off their new tour only 10", The Swept Under? they are really good.

[whiteminority]

yeah, pretty much. where was it mentioned?

[Special Brew]

It was up there at the top of this page.

[whiteminority]

if it was its not anymore.

[Special Brew]

Speaking of Funeral Diner, have any of you heard the songs off their new tour only 10", The Swept Under? they are really good.
My bad, it was in the middle of the page.

[whiteminority]

**** i am retarded.

[cbmartinez]

No way Orchid is better than LLBNF.

[Wow]

No way Orchid is better than LLBNF.


No way Orchid is better than a lot of bands, including LLBNF.

[DFelon204409]

This is a stupid conversation. In general:

CTTS > Hot Cross > you and i > kite-flying society > all the other crap you're talking about

[Nataroo]

KFS>you and I.

Im getting big on I Hate Myself right now too.

[Special Brew]

This is a stupid conversation. In general:

CTTS > Hot Cross > you and i > kite-flying society > all the other crap you're talking about
I don't consider CTTS is the same league as these other bands. They sounds very different in comparison to them others.

[Sep]

What's so great about Kite Flying Society? I am they're okidoki but nothing to jizz your pants about.

[Wow]

The great thing about Kite Flying Society is the intensity of the vocals and the intro to "We Dance At Night."

[DFelon204409]

I don't have that KFS song. I'm going to be needing that soon.

[Shikyo]

I love Kite-Flying Society a lot... it's just that I've been having a lot of trouble finding stuff by them. That is - since I don't have any programs that give me the ability to download and I have dial-up (I know, I'm not advanced like everyone else.)

[whiteminority]

No way Orchid is better than a lot of bands, including LLBNF.
No.

[Wow]

Yes.

[whiteminority]

No.

[Wow]

Yes. :D

[whiteminority]

they both kick ***. but orchid i prefer much more.

[Wow]

That is true. I just happen to prefer LLBNF, and LLE more than both of them, and KFS more than all.

[RetiredAt21]

Orchid rule all.

[whiteminority]

LLE is killer.

[quick_death]

Pg.99>everything
but i will proberly change my mind in a couple of weeks

[Saturday Supercade]

Ok ok, I get it...Orchid is a good band...and so is pg 99, KFS, LLE and all those other bands you all mentioned...I think we all know that. This is stupid...everyone is like: "ow..Orchid>everything else" or "><<><><Orchid><><>>><<KFS>><CTTS" or whatever. This is going nowhere, come with arguments why you think one band is better than another one.
(or am I the only one with that opinion?)

[quick_death]

you have a point.i'm just lazy.i like pg.99's lyrics more then others, they seem more thought out and i relate, and the music is just blinding.

[Wow]

KFS is better 'cause of the vocals. The only reason.

[quick_death]

i really want to hear some KFS

[Saturday Supercade]

i really want to hear some KFS

Xhttp://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2PZWOC9U34P5537SPAWD67M3HN

There ya go...just remove the X and enjoy

[Saturday Supercade]

ow ****...I just read that I wasnt allowed to upload it for you...

[whiteminority]

I like Orchid's chaos, every time I listen to them I get shivers down my spine.

[Special Brew]

That's only because Orchid > KFS.

[-1up!-]

LLE is killer.

yes. yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes.

[whiteminority]

That's only because Orchid > KFS.
true but just barely. KFS is ****ing amazing.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Any one else think The Assistant are great?

[Mute Print]

true but just barely. KFS is ****ing amazing.
I'm loving KFS so much right now. I like Orchid too.

[bottlerocket]

:wave:

Hey guys...I'm mainly a member of the bass forum, but I figured I'd pop over here to say hi. I love screamo. :D

...and I don't mean "Hawthorne Heights" screamo...I listen to actual screamo. :p

:thumb:

-Gav

[cbmartinez]

90% the people who say Orchid are "omg good" have only heard "Epilogue..."

[SactoUnited]

:wave:

Hey guys...I'm mainly a member of the bass forum, but I figured I'd pop over here to say hi. I love screamo. :D

...and I don't mean "Hawthorne Heights" screamo...I listen to actual screamo. :p

:thumb:

-Gav
Rocko owns.

[Special Brew]

Rocko owns.
Indeed.

90% the people who say Orchid are "omg good" have only heard "Epilogue..."
Not me.

These are albums that I have downloaded...

Orchid - Chaos Is Me
Orchid - Dance Tonight! Revolution Tomorrow!
Orchid - Gatefold
Orchid - Totality

I love 'em all. I don't know much about any hardcore/emo bands other than what they sound like and whether I like them or not. I don't know which are official releases or EPs or anything, so don't flame me if I make mistakes. :p

[SGlove]

I'll take this time to rep Yaphet Kotto.
They have two side projects.
One was mediocore.
Forget the name of it.
The other was Saviour.
It was metal.
Decent.

[Wow]

Yaphet Kotto's album Syncopated Synthetic Laments for Love is one of the best albums I've ever heard. We Bury Our Dead Alive sucked except for a few good moments.

[Special Brew]

I could never find any Yaphet Kotto on any P2P programs. :(

[bottlerocket]

^ I can never find any Kodan Armada, Kite Flying Society, or anything like that...

[Special Brew]

^ I can never find any Kodan Armada, Kite Flying Society, or anything like that...

:thumb:

-Gav
I could probably YSI you some of that stuff if I had your email. :p

Or if you use Soulseek you could hit me up, I'm 'Damien Rhodes'.

[-1up!-]

I could find some KFS, Kodan Armada, A Day in Black and White, Orchid, Pg.99, Welcome to the Plague Year, Amanda Woodward, lickgoldensky, Hassan I Sabbah and Kaospilot all on Limewire. Needless to say I could only find 3-4 songs for each (except Amanda)

I definitely need to get on Soulseek or whatever **** you guys are all using.

[quick_death]

Saturday Supercade: thanks for the KFS song, good stuff

Originally Posted by cbmartinez


90% the people who say Orchid are "omg good" have only heard "Epilogue..."
i never even heard it. i have dance tonight!, revolution tomorrow! and some of chaos is me

[Special Brew]

I could find some KFS, Kodan Armada, A Day in Black and White, Orchid, Pg.99, Welcome to the Plague Year, Amanda Woodward, lickgoldensky, Hassan I Sabbah and Kaospilot all on Limewire. Needless to say I could only find 3-4 songs for each (except Amanda)

I definitely need to get on Soulseek or whatever **** you guys are all using.
I think most of us use Soulseek.

http://www.slsknet.org

[Nataroo]

Best way to find anything worth having is searching the punk/hardcore room on slsk.

[Special Brew]

The 'emo' and 'Metal Mayhem' rooms are good too.

[Nataroo]

Does the emo room actually know whats up?

[DFelon204409]

I could find some KFS, Kodan Armada, A Day in Black and White, Orchid, Pg.99, Welcome to the Plague Year, Amanda Woodward, lickgoldensky, Hassan I Sabbah and Kaospilot all on Limewire. Needless to say I could only find 3-4 songs for each (except Amanda)

I definitely need to get on Soulseek or whatever **** you guys are all using.

Ya you do.

[DFelon204409]

Does the emo room actually know whats up?

There's only a few. I had an extended convo about how 90% of the room are idiots with this guy who's name is cut that city I think.

[cbmartinez]

Lickgoldensky are awesome.

[Wow]

Chris get on AIM.

[Special Brew]

Does the emo room actually know whats up?
Yeha pretty much. A lot of the guys in the chats are idiots, but the real fans just kind of sit around and don't talk much. It's a good room to search though, you can find a lot of emo/screamo, usually more than you can in hardcore/punk.

[whiteminority]

dude soulseek is too confusing for my retarded self.

[Special Brew]

It's extremely simple. What is so confusing about it?

[sink sink]

There's also a screamo room on Soulseek where everyone seems to know what's up and talk about music, although it's pretty quiet because there aren't many people in there, so come by and help populate it. If you can't find it on the room list, just right-click on the rooms, choose "create room," and type in screamo.

[Wow]

/goes in screamo room.

[whiteminority]

It's extremely simple. What is so confusing about it?
i used to have it downloaded and when i tryed using it i didnt know what the hell to do. so i just guessed and put in some bands in search and i didnt get ****.

[StandingStill]

Does someone wanna tell me how to get Soulseek on an Apple running OSX?

[whiteminority]

Should I get Capillary Lockdown or Strangers Everyday by the Red Scare?

[DFelon204409]

Does someone wanna tell me how to get Soulseek on an Apple running OSX?

www.versiontracker.com and then search soulseex

[whiteminority]

Should I get Capillary Lockdown or Strangers Everyday by the Red Scare?
yeah so can somone reccomend one or the other please. i am going to order one of them with an orchid cd and i cant decide.

thanks

[Sep]

I wouldn't know man, I'm not really into the Red Scare.

I am currently download a folder from Soulseek called "Death To False Screamo" and it's a great mix.

[StandingStill]

Get the Red Scare they don't disappoint.

[-1up!-]

Get the Red Scare they don't disappoint.

I concur.

I freaking need to get Soulseek, but right now I'm off to school. Heh.

[Special Brew]

i used to have it downloaded and when i tryed using it i didnt know what the hell to do. so i just guessed and put in some bands in search and i didnt get ****.
Just play with it more. Get in the hardcore chatroom. You'll see it in the list at the right of the screen and the people in there would help you out and tell you how to search for files in just that room, as well as anything else you want to know.

[whiteminority]

new avatar = killer.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Oh ya your new avatr is killer.

[whiteminority]

word. so did you get back at that fat bitch back for your myspace, martin?

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

No not yet. Nextweekend. Post your link so I can add you to my new one.

[whiteminority]

http://www.myspace.com/xbenxthexbastardx

check it bitches. :cool:

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Have you gotten Alaska yet?

[whiteminority]

no i went to order it last night and it was out of stock for what i would have money for (i cant throwdown $23 for it from victory's site) and the stores around here are either sold out or havnt ordered it. so i bought a red scare album and an orchid album.

did you get a new screen name for aim?

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Ya but I'm also on my old one at the same time.

[whiteminority]

awesome.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Have you seen the video I have on my new myspace? Its xhardcorex to the max.

[whiteminority]

nah, i dont plan on screwing with myspace tonight its being fag.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Oh that sucks.

[Special Brew]

Have you gotten Alaska yet?
/got it the morning it was released

[Wow]

How is it?

[Special Brew]

It's better than any of their other stuff. They seem to be getting more progressive and technical as they age. It is my favorite album of the year so far.

[tornpictures]

Should I get Capillary Lockdown or Strangers Everyday by the Red Scare?

Definitely Capillary Lockdown

[whiteminority]

Definitely Capillary Lockdown
thats what i got. :thumb:

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

It's better than any of their other stuff. They seem to be getting more progressive and technical as they age. It is my favorite album of the year so far.
I agree thats its better than their old stuff. Also its one of my favorite albums of the year so far. The best so far for me have been Frances The Mute by The Mars Volta, Nuclear Sad Nuclear by The Number 12 Looks Like You, and Alaska by BTBAM.

[whiteminority]

my favorite album of the year is nothing since i dont have alaska yet and i havnt bought any albums that have come out this year. only new album i have listened to is chimaira's "nothing remains" and that is alright not great.

biggest letdown of the year = O, God the Aftermath

[Special Brew]

That's only because it's Norma Jean. One good song actually, which was Bayonetwork. Everything else they have ever made sucks a nut.

[whiteminority]

i hated that album. but i liked their first one.

[RetiredAt21]

I could never get into Norma Jean. My friend tried to get me into them, but I killed him.

[deadohiosky9]

norma jean were locals around here. they suck.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I like Norma Jean. I think O, God was good. Just my opinion.

[StandingStill]

How many vocalists have they got through now?

[deadohiosky9]

i believe this is only their second.

[whiteminority]

this vocalist made them the scene bastards they now are.

[DFelon204409]

Because Norma Jean was always straight up independent and didn't write generic songs.

[whiteminority]

yeah they were generic but Bless the Martyr, Kiss the Child was alright for what it was.

[Sep]

I love the fast tom tom bit in the beginning of the second half of "Memphis Will Be Laid To Waste". I always rewind it to that bit because is sounds so cool.

I also love that drumfill in the second verse of "Piano" by Glassjaw, where he does the fast triplet thing after the double crashes.

[whiteminority]

word sep, glassjaw rule. in other news in emo i am distraught that i cant buy the orchid/usurp syanpse split 6" on purple vinyl because i am broke.
:upset:



but i am happy because i got Alaska last night :)

[Sep]

That first new song by BTBAM "Selkies" on Purevolume is so amazing.

[whiteminority]

that is one of my favorites but my favorite off the cd is the backwards marathon. you should definately pick the album up if you like selkies.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Yay! Ben finally got Alaska!!!!!!! How do you like it?

[WetNoodle]

I could never get into BTBAM, then my friend showed me some songs off their new album and I loved them. I just dunno what they were called :(

Which tracks should I check out?

/my first post in this thread :eek:

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Check out ''All Bodies", "Selkies:The Endless Obsession", "Backwards Marathon", and "Primer".

[whiteminority]

Yay! Ben finally got Alaska!!!!!!! How do you like it?
im forming a new religion called alakaism.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Hahaha nice. How much do I have to play to join?

[cbmartinez]

I bought Rumors Laid Waste. Nice find, eh?

[WetNoodle]

OMG! haha

I bought Alaska! What a ****ing great album!!

My favorites so far are: Alaska, Selkies:The Endless Obsession, Backwards Marathon and The Primer.

Amazing cd!


BTW, What the hell is up with Laser Speed? :p

[DFelon204409]

Nobody will know. It's a fun CD but not as good as Silent Circus, maybe even the self-titled. I feel this album is goofier and less tight though I admit it is more diverse but at the sacrifice of songwriting.

[whiteminority]

I think Alaska is the album the band has wanted to do from the start but just finally got good enough at their instruments to do (not saying they were bad before hand, they were still ****ing amazing before this.) If anyone has noticed the band progressed from a metalcore sound on their s/t to them exploring tech metal on Silent Circus to Alaska which is full blown progressive tech metal.

Alaska>s/t>Silent Circus