Emo Community Thread

[DFelon204409]

Most of you are immature and relatively less intelligent. That wasn't his point though. He was saying it's ridiculous to get into meeting bands as if they were celebrities when they are more humble and reserved than any of the fans. Hardcore should have a community mentality, and the band members are not meant to be huge icons. Just dudes tearing it up.

[whiteminority]

Most of you are immature and relatively less intelligent. That wasn't his point though. He was saying it's ridiculous to get into meeting bands as if they were celebrities when they are more humble and reserved than any of the fans. Hardcore should have a community mentality, and the band members are not meant to be huge icons. Just dudes tearing it up.
Dude you are the one who in is immature when you have to say that we (15, 16 yr olds) are immature and less intelligent. Most people actually into hardcore treat it as a community mentality rather than the god among men status rampant in the other forms of music. Stop downing all of us you arn't making anyone more hardcore or emo or whatever by calling us stupid.

[RCVA]

Tornpictures is prejudiced. When i first got into hardcore i didn't go round thinking i was the **** and that there was no difference between the hardcore scene and other music scenes. I listened to those whose views i respected and learnt about hardcore from them. The majority of us, i think, did the same.

[-1up!-]

What the **** is this thread about? Emo/Screamo, right? Plus it says Community Thread so I think we should act like a ****ing mob of people who like emo/screamo and act like a community. You know what's immature? Ripping our own selves apart in this thread like whiny kids. Yeah, I get pissed off too when reading torn's posts because I don't like his way of speaking at all I'm no better or worst than any of you. But heck, why don't we all cool off.

Acting as a community doesn't mean bashing other communities, however. So why the **** don't we act like a community ourselves? Stronger emo/screamo MX community means more harmony, means patience with emo ignorants, means more people actually interested in this thread, means stronger emo/screamo community and it starts over again. Get it?

[whiteminority]

Tornpictures is prejudiced. When i first got into hardcore i didn't go round thinking i was the **** and that there was no difference between the hardcore scene and other music scenes. I listened to those whose views i respected and learnt about hardcore from them. The majority of us, i think, did the same.
That is of course unless you were born hardcore like torn.

[DFelon204409]

Acting as a community doesn't mean bashing other communities, however.

Truf.

[DFelon204409]

Dude you are the one who in is immature when you have to say that we (15, 16 yr olds) are immature and less intelligent. Most people actually into hardcore treat it as a community mentality rather than the god among men status rampant in the other forms of music. Stop downing all of us you arn't making anyone more hardcore or emo or whatever by calling us stupid.

You realize what just happened right?

Me: [comment and then explanation about why I think you are immature or relatively less intelligent]
You: No you are immature when you say I'm immature and less intelligent.

Can you see how that is not an argument. It's like "What you say is what you are" or "I am rubber and you are glue..." or some other elementary school comeback. Nobody was getting on anybody's case about being younger, only that you are immature, irregardless of your age. End of argument. Let us talk about Funeral Diner. They are cool.

[whiteminority]

Give me an example of how I am less intelligent, please.

[DFelon204409]

I said relatively less intelligent for a reason. You are of normal intelligence but compared to people who are older and more expreienced in the ways of the world than you, you appear less intelligent. The word "relatively" is a qualifier for you intelligence. But, if you insist on a specific example, I'll have to say completely misunderstanding what tornpictures was saying and pursuing this argument with me. Those are two good examples I think.

[whiteminority]

Torn was making a ****ing elitist statement and I will pursue an argument cause **** talked pisses me off. Sorry I misinterpreted your statement. Funeral Diner is pretty cool.

[DFelon204409]

And the truth comes out. I wrote a review. It rules almost as much as torn and I rule at tricking people.

[tornpictures]

Torn was making a ****ing elitist statement and I will pursue an argument cause **** talked pisses me off. Sorry I misinterpreted your statement. Funeral Diner is pretty cool.

Hahahahhaha. Again you missed the point. Do you fail to see that you kids are the elitists by ruling out everyone who listens to pop-emo?

And I'm not prejudiced, I'm just generalizing. Most of the kids I see here (of your age) are stupid ignorant kids who do nothing else but bag on other people because they listen to music they stopped listening to. Stupid ****ing purists who hide their 'dark' musical past. Annd it seems like most of you are definitely NOT in hardcore for the music which ****ing sucks.

[RCVA]

As -1up!1- has said "why don't we all cool off" and let it lie.

[Saturday Supercade]

Although I partially agree with -1up!- I think it's good to have a firm discussion like this one once in a while..

[Saturday Supercade]

And the truth comes out. I wrote a review. It rules almost as much as torn and I rule at tricking people.

Good review! Even better music!
(some how I can't post a comment at sputnik :confused: )

[whiteminority]

Hahahahhaha. Again you missed the point. Do you fail to see that you kids are the elitists by ruling out everyone who listens to pop-emo?

And I'm not prejudiced, I'm just generalizing. Most of the kids I see here (of your age) are stupid ignorant kids who do nothing else but bag on other people because they listen to music they stopped listening to. Stupid ****ing purists who hide their 'dark' musical past. Annd it seems like most of you are definitely NOT in hardcore for the music which ****ing sucks.
My dark musical past? You want to know what I used to listen to? I listened to nu-metal and punk and a little hardcore up until about 8th grade when I discovered Norma Jean. I still listen to pop-emo or fake-emo (dashboard and older tbs) and "fashioncore" bleeding through, every time i die, old atreyu, and old eighteen visions. In honesty I didn't discover real emo or screamo until about 7 months ago through Saetia, Orchid, and City of Caterpillar. When I listened to dashboard and tbs I never thought of them as emo because I had known that the definition was emotional hardcore and neither of these bands are or were hardcore. I rule out people who come in and tell me that the music I primarily listen to isn't something more past the pop-emo stuff (as in "HAwthorne Heights are the only real emo band".) If someone comes in to the forums and asks about good emo bands saying they like such and such pop-emo band I will tell them some good bands but with the warning it sounds nothing like the stuff their used to.

And I am into hardcore for the music most definately because it wasn't for some popularity statement because until 9th grade I was the only person in the Clemson, South Carolina area into anything besides straight pop-music who liked anything besides nu-metal and marilyn manson.

(I'm in 10th grade now by the way.)

[Shikyo]

My dark musical past? You want to know what I used to listen to? I listened to nu-metal and punk and a little hardcore up until about 8th grade when I discovered Norma Jean. I still listen to pop-emo or fake-emo (dashboard and older tbs) and "fashioncore" bleeding through, every time i die, old atreyu, and old eighteen visions. In honesty I didn't discover real emo or screamo until about 7 months ago through Saetia, Orchid, and City of Caterpillar. When I listened to dashboard and tbs I never thought of them as emo because I had known that the definition was emotional hardcore and neither of these bands are or were hardcore. I rule out people who come in and tell me that the music I primarily listen to isn't something more past the pop-emo stuff (as in "HAwthorne Heights are the only real emo band".) If someone comes in to the forums and asks about good emo bands saying they like such and such pop-emo band I will tell them some good bands but with the warning it sounds nothing like the stuff their used to.

And I am into hardcore for the music most definately because it wasn't for some popularity statement because until 9th grade I was the only person in the Clemson, South Carolina area into anything besides straight pop-music who liked anything besides nu-metal and marilyn manson.

(I'm in 10th grade now by the way.)

Wow, you're pretty intelligent for a tenth grader, I always pictured you as someone much older. I guess it proves, it doesn't matter how long you've been alive - what matters is the amount of knowledge you've gained while you've been here. I don't think that it matters how you got into the music, as long as you're listening to it now. I too, started with nu-metal/punk which branched me into hardcore, then post-hardcore, then emo. I also listen to the pop-emo/fake-emo stuff aswell.

This arguement seems pretty retarded. We just argueing over someone being less intelligent because they're younger? In some cases, it's true. I believe that age doesn't matter anymore though.

[DFelon204409]

My dark musical past? You want to know what I used to listen to? I listened to nu-metal and punk and a little hardcore up until about 8th grade when I discovered Norma Jean. I still listen to pop-emo or fake-emo (dashboard and older tbs) and "fashioncore" bleeding through, every time i die, old atreyu, and old eighteen visions. In honesty I didn't discover real emo or screamo until about 7 months ago through Saetia, Orchid, and City of Caterpillar. When I listened to dashboard and tbs I never thought of them as emo because I had known that the definition was emotional hardcore and neither of these bands are or were hardcore. I rule out people who come in and tell me that the music I primarily listen to isn't something more past the pop-emo stuff (as in "HAwthorne Heights are the only real emo band".) If someone comes in to the forums and asks about good emo bands saying they like such and such pop-emo band I will tell them some good bands but with the warning it sounds nothing like the stuff their used to.

And I am into hardcore for the music most definately because it wasn't for some popularity statement because until 9th grade I was the only person in the Clemson, South Carolina area into anything besides straight pop-music who liked anything besides nu-metal and marilyn manson.

(I'm in 10th grade now by the way.)

Your projected favorite bands for the year 2008 are Del tha Funkee Homosapien, Jeff Beck, and Weird Al Yankovich.

[pixiesfanyo]

And cause a major ruckus while laughing at stupid 15 year-olds who just got into it and don't get the point of hardcore whatsoever.

Oh I see.

We were talking about Hot Cross.

I brought up the point that I bought the singer's vinyl.

That's all.

[RCVA]

What's 10th grade again?

[RetiredAt21]

I was supposed to see Hot Cross awhile ago, then I forgot which day the show was, so I missed it.

[pixiesfanyo]

What's 10th grade again?

It's kind of like anal sex without the lube.

[RetiredAt21]

Hahahahaha.

[RCVA]

Hahahaha. Seriously though, is 10th grade when you're 14 or 15?

[srt-4]

i was 15 when i started, 16 when i finished 10th grade.

[RCVA]

Oh right.

[whiteminority]

Your projected favorite bands for the year 2008 are Del tha Funkee Homosapien, Jeff Beck, and Weird Al Yankovich.
Jeff Beck is a ****ing badass guitarist. And Weird Al hasn't been funny since his parody of beat it. Havn't heard of that of that other dude.

Oh and when I wrote that all I did was listen to nu-metal I only listened to Slipknot otherwise I primarily listened to punk and death metal.

[whiteminority]

It's kind of like anal sex without the lube.
Nah thats 11th grade at this school. School is easy as hell right now.

[-1up!-]

And it seems like most of you are definitely NOT in hardcore for the music which ****ing sucks.

:confused:

What other reason would we listen to hardcore??

EDIT: You mean, people starting to listen to hardcore only so they have different musical taste from others? Hardcore posers, kinda?

[whiteminority]

I was supposed to see Hot Cross awhile ago, then I forgot which day the show was, so I missed it.
I here they are really good live. I wish they would come to the south. :upset:

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I really want to see The Number 12 Looks Like You live but I don't know if I can.

[Mute Print]

I really want to see The Number 12 Looks Like You live but I don't know if I can.
The Number Twelve puts on an awesome live show. I just saw them with The Letters Organzie, and they were amazing.

[Converge#12]

I saw the number 12 in july it was amazing!

[srt-4]

I here they are really good live. I wish they would come to the south. :upset:
you and me both. i have only gotten to see them once.

[whiteminority]

you and me both. i have only gotten to see them once.
What part of the south are you from?

[SGlove]

Off topic.
But.
It's my birthday.
I'm 20.

[RCVA]

Happy Birthday. :chug:

[syurix]

Happy Birthday, I to; am 20.

[srt-4]

What part of the south are you from?
florida

[DFelon204409]

torn is 37, he was in Reach Out.

[StandingStill]

I heard he became disillusioned with hardcore.

[DFelon204409]

ATTN: StandingStill, bahhhhhhh

[srt-4]

torn is 37, he was in Reach Out.
is that our fact of the day? haha.

can't you delete all those threads instead of just locking them? its ridiculous.

[DFelon204409]

Why delete them when they add to our forums' thread count?

[Unleash the bastards]

is that our fact of the day? haha.

can't you delete all those threads instead of just locking them? its ridiculous.
you're a faggot





JUST SAYIN

[Chiller_Than_Most]

That's what I'm saying.

How long are we banned for?

[Unleash the bastards]

i bet its perma

[Chiller_Than_Most]

Nah, you kept making them. I didn't. That's not perm worthy anyways.

[Unleash the bastards]

I already had those accounts

[Chiller_Than_Most]

Making threads, whatever though I don't care. I just wanna know how long 40 oz is banned.

[Unleash the bastards]

Yeah I don't give a **** if I get IP banned even...........hinthint

[srt-4]

you're a faggot





JUST SAYIN
i'm sure you are one of those skinny 13 year olds that think you own this place because you spend 10+ hours a day on it. which one i don't know, and don't care. i don't take any of you guys seriously. don't worry, one day your balls will drop and you can grow the **** up.

[Unleash the bastards]

i'm sure you are one of those skinny 13 year olds that think you own this place because you spend 10+ hours a day on it. which one i don't know, and don't care. i don't take any of you guys seriously. don't worry, one day your balls will drop and you can grow the **** up.
i'm skinny and i was 13 years old not long ago...the balls have dropped though...close

[Chiller_Than_Most]

Wow, what a played out put down.

[srt-4]

Wow, what a played out put down.
hahaha. the fact that you have been told it before only makes it more true, not less.

[Chiller_Than_Most]

I've been told that before? When?

[Happymeal]

what the hell happened here

[Unleash the bastards]

what the hell happened here
a beautiful thing

[srt-4]

I've been told that before? When?
i don't know. just take this and be happy.

http://www.steroidsdeca.com/images/deca4.jpg

[Unleash the bastards]

You don't love Gorilla Biscuits so you don't belong here

[-:Vincent:-]

Anybody here like Underoath? I think they are pretty sweet.

Underoath's awesome...the drumer sings

[conniption]

just got back from mt washington, great hike, just out of curiousity, has anybody skiied any part of tuckermans ravine/boott spur or and of the cone? I want to do it sometime, but at the moment i dont own skis, and am not old enough to do it really.

[DFelon204409]

I got soulseek. I'm DFelon204409. Everybody friend me and post your name here so I can figures it out. I'm going to get an external HD soon for recording, so I should be banking up soon.

[SGlove]

So I walk into Vintage Vinyl tonight.
I was waiting to be called into Red Lobster for my table.
I walk over to the 'H' section of hxc/punk.
Did they have Hot Cross?
NO!
They have Textbook Traitors instead.
They are powerful though.
A fair exchange.

[RCVA]

My local store doesn't have Hot Cross either. The price of living in England...

[tornpictures]

torn is 37, he was in Reach Out.

Actually I turned 42 today and I'm still in good enough shape to play the drums for CTTS without wearing my hearing aid! God**** youngins!

[tornpictures]

I bought 'Cryonics' on CD because it was the only decent CD they had the other day. I felt robbed after I listened to it. Now I remember why I always hated post-10" Hot Cross.
Anyone want the CD? I'll sell it for cheap.

[cbmartinez]

I'll trade you my The Sea, The Sea 7" for it.

[tornpictures]

Too bad they don't have any sevens and I'm not too into them anyway.

[whiteminority]

You don't love Gorilla Biscuits so you don't belong here
We are in the emo/screamo thread and you don't have to love Gorilla Biscuits to post in here since they weren't emo.

[Unleash the bastards]

We are in the emo/screamo thread and you don't have to love Gorilla Biscuits to post in here since they weren't emo.
I'm JUST PLAYIN.

[quick_death]

i found 'cyronics' in virgin megastores

[conniption]

i found 'cyronics' in virgin megastores
i found rumors laid waste, the bloodbrothers ep, its kinda rare, so i guess virgin megastores are decent.

[Special Brew]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300648

^ Could someone add a emo/screamo definition on there? It hasn't been edited in ages.

I refer this thread and the definition thread to people all over the internet when we get in arguments about emo, but that is making it difficult since their is no definition listed for emo or screamo, just hardcore genres.

[Special Brew]

I am subscribing to this thread, ignore this post.

[-1up!-]

Emotional Hardcore, Emo for short, is a genre started in 1985 by bands like Rites of Spring and Moss Icon who took the basic foundations of hardcore and added in artsy guitar lines, poetic lyrics, and passionate vocals. Over time, emo has evolved into a few different styles. There's traditional emo (Moss Icon, Driftwood), hardcore emo (Reach Out, Heroin), mid-west indie influenced (Rockets and Blue Lights, Nuzzle), and screamo (You and I, Usurp Synapse). Although it HAS evolved, absolutley none of the mainstream bands like Hawthorne Heights and Thursday are emo or an evolution of emo. Most, if not all of those bands are either Pop-Punk or Post-Hardcore. The decision to call bands like alexisonfire screamo was arbitrary and mis-informed. Don't be fooled by what the media tells you.

Due to the nature of its bands, emo is not very well known to the public. Most emo bands had very short lives and some of them never released an actual record (only demos and such). This made it impossible for some bands to gain a vast reputation while they were still active. This is not true for all bands though, as there are a few successful acts in the emo genre which are still active and vastly known by the emo "community", Circle Takes The Square and Hot Cross being very good examples.

The emo musical genre has NOTHING to do with the emo "slice-my-wrists" culture. Emo, musically speaking, is not about cutting your wrists, cutting your hair so it covers 50% of your face, wearing girl pants when you're a male, putting mascara all over your eyes, etc. Emo is about making hardcore music in an artsy/poetic way to focus on a varied specter of emotions. Yes, most music is about emotion. However, emo is hardcore-derived; while hardcore focuses on feelings of rage and alienation through a political struggle, emo is generally more introspective.


(Insert examples of emo bands here)

Written by Wow and me. DFelon would probably direct you to Wikipedia's definition but it's epic-length and I'm pretty sure most people won't bother reading it all.

If anyone feels the need to add something to that definition, go right ahead.

[whiteminority]

Good definition.

[Special Brew]

Now we need to get a mod to put it on the definition page, where it belongs :lol:

[Let's Chop Cats!]

No mention of Embrace? How dare you.

[whiteminority]

It said insert examples of emo bands Reiner.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I still do not see Embrace there.

[whiteminority]

Well I guess that was bad that Embrace was not mentioned, but I bought a book called "American Hardcore: A Tribal History" (coverage of american HC from 80-86) and his coverage of the DC scene barely touched upon emotion hardcore and mentioned off-handedly. Even worse in the entire coverage of NYHC Gorilla Biscuits didn't get mentioned until the last page of the 20+pg chapter and it was only a sentence.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

While that book is a fun read, it is deffinently not that good factual wise. I can't think of the right way to word it, but I hope you know what I ment.

I don't think it was ment to cover Emo though.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

You should write a book. It would turn out good.

[whiteminority]

I know it wasn't but you know Emo had a decent impact on DC hardcore and Gorilla Biscuits getting the one sentece thats bulls'hit that whole chapter on NYHC was primarily about Murphys Law and AF.

[Chiller_Than_Most]

You should write a book. It would turn out good.

:rolleyes:

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Your jealous.

[Berserker!]

You should write a book. It would turn out good.

Sycophant.

[Chiller_Than_Most]

You're book would have bad grammer.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

My book would make me millions.

Who the hell cares about grammar in the summer?

Besides there are things called 'editors'.
You're book would have bad grammer.
Good spelling though. Also Pat, it's 'your' since it is my book, representing ownership.

[Berserker!]

My book would make me millions.

Who the hell cares about grammar in the summer?

Besides there are things called 'editors'.

Good spelling though.

'you're'

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Where did I use a form of Your/You're?

[Chiller_Than_Most]

I think he's talking about me, when I said "You're book would have bad grammer".

I was on of the top 15 spellers in the greater san antonio area in 4th grade.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Too bad you weren't in the top 15 for grammar.

[Chiller_Than_Most]

I know how to spell grammar now, but if I put grammar in the quote, I'd be misquoting myself.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

That second comma is unnecessary.

[Chiller_Than_Most]

Yes, it is. I've always been bad with putting too many commas.

[Unleash the bastards]

LOL @ all the 'your' mistakes

[Wow]

Your jealous.


Don't judge someone on their grammar skills when you made the same type of mistake.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Every post on grammar/spelling in this thread (by me) was a joke.

[Chiller_Than_Most]

Me too, except for that comma thing. That was my bad. I'm so stupid.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I was just busting your balls at the comma thing.

[Special Brew]

Me too, except for that comma thing. That was my bad. I'm so stupid.
We need bad grammar occasionally. If all grammar was good, how would we know it is good without having the bad to compare it to?

[Berserker!]

Where did I use a form of Your/You're?

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9196254&postcount=3594

[Chiller_Than_Most]

You better just stay out of this Berserker. It's come and gone.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Too late, amd you quoted the wrong post.

[DFelon204409]

Now we need to get a mod to put it on the definition page, where it belongs :lol:

Shut up. I talked to this guy online who grew up with the emo scene in DC while living in LA from 85-Present. He has written most of the wikipedia emo site, which is pretty informative once I convinced him to make a popcore page to split out all the stuff that we both agreed didn't belong but he had been previously too lazy to fix. Anyway. I'm going to combine his 1ups, and many others to get a really good history when my work ends this Friday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo

[Damrod]

Shut up. I talked to this guy online who grew up with the emo scene in DC while living in LA from 85-Present. He has written most of the wikipedia emo site, which is pretty informative once I convinced him to make a popcore page to split out all the stuff that we both agreed didn't belong but he had been previously too lazy to fix. Anyway. I'm going to combine his 1ups, and many others to get a really good history when my work ends this Friday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo

Too bad that both articles seem to be up for deletion/alteration. They are a great read, and especially the emo-article is educational. (Blows fourfa.com out of the water IMO. People should stop tossing it around, chose this instead)

Seems that quite a lot of people think both articles ar not neutral enough (and the folks at Wiki seem quite anal about that)

EDIT: And a little sidenote for you to laugh about Nick, someone submitted a genre change on Sputnik for Thrice. Proposed new genre: Pop Rock... Yeah, right :rolleyes:

[tornpictures]

Well I guess that was bad that Embrace was not mentioned, but I bought a book called "American Hardcore: A Tribal History" (coverage of american HC from 80-86) and his coverage of the DC scene barely touched upon emotion hardcore and mentioned off-handedly. Even worse in the entire coverage of NYHC Gorilla Biscuits didn't get mentioned until the last page of the 20+pg chapter and it was only a sentence.

Really bad book. Focuses way too much on certain scenes (aka the moshers) and the dude's writing style is wayyy childish.

[whiteminority]

I thought that the coverage of Black Flag and the Misfits (a chapter each) was really good but I am biased and those are two of my favorite bands.

[tornpictures]

Emotional Hardcore, Emo for short, is a genre started in 1985 by bands like Rites of Spring and Moss Icon who took the basic foundations of hardcore and added in artsy guitar lines, poetic lyrics, and passionate vocals. Over time, emo has evolved into a few different styles. There's traditional emo (Moss Icon, Driftwood), hardcore emo (Reach Out, Heroin), mid-west indie influenced (Rockets and Blue Lights, Nuzzle), and screamo (You and I, Usurp Synapse). Although it HAS evolved, absolutley none of the mainstream bands like Hawthorne Heights and Thursday are emo or an evolution of emo. Most, if not all of those bands are either Pop-Punk or Post-Hardcore. The decision to call bands like alexisonfire screamo was arbitrary and mis-informed. Don't be fooled by what the media tells you.

Due to the nature of its bands, emo is not very well known to the public. Most emo bands had very short lives and some of them never released an actual record (only demos and such). This made it impossible for some bands to gain a vast reputation while they were still active. This is not true for all bands though, as there are a few successful acts in the emo genre which are still active and vastly known by the emo "community", Circle Takes The Square and Hot Cross being very good examples.

The emo musical genre has NOTHING to do with the emo "slice-my-wrists" culture. Emo, musically speaking, is not about cutting your wrists, cutting your hair so it covers 50% of your face, wearing girl pants when you're a male, putting mascara all over your eyes, etc. Emo is about making hardcore music in an artsy/poetic way to focus on a varied specter of emotions. Yes, most music is about emotion. However, emo is hardcore-derived; while hardcore focuses on feelings of rage and alienation through a political struggle, emo is generally more introspective.


(Insert examples of emo bands here)

'Emo' is still hardcore and people tend to forget this alot.
Anyway, the bands you mentioned as examples aren't really appropriate as Driftwood are quite obscure and only had one 7". Moss Icon are a good one, although they were still slightly unevolved. Indian Summer or something would be more appropriate.
'Hardcore emo?!' Who the **** came up with that? Very silly.

The whole mid-west thing- Rockets and Bluelights are a relatively new band so they don't really fit in the list that well. Nuzzle sound nothing like those bands.. more in line with Swing Kids and other San Diego stuff.

The real reason bands didn't get too well-known: they didn't tour alot. Just think of bands like Breakwater, September, Driftwood, Fieldtree, Mainspring. Have a couple records out but aren't that well-known as, say Indian Summer.
Emo dhardly still exists, it's a wave that came and went really. Just a couple bands left like Die Emperor, Toru Okada etc.

[whiteminority]

Have you been around since emo started, torn?

[tornpictures]

Nah.

[whiteminority]

How long you been in the scene?

[tornpictures]

How is this relevant?

[whiteminority]

I'm just curious.

[tornpictures]

Going on 3.

[whiteminority]

3 years? ive been in for about a year.

[-1up!-]

'Emo' is still hardcore and people tend to forget this alot.
Anyway, the bands you mentioned as examples aren't really appropriate as Driftwood are quite obscure and only had one 7". Moss Icon are a good one, although they were still slightly unevolved. Indian Summer or something would be more appropriate.
'Hardcore emo?!' Who the **** came up with that? Very silly.

The whole mid-west thing- Rockets and Bluelights are a relatively new band so they don't really fit in the list that well. Nuzzle sound nothing like those bands.. more in line with Swing Kids and other San Diego stuff.

The real reason bands didn't get too well-known: they didn't tour alot. Just think of bands like Breakwater, September, Driftwood, Fieldtree, Mainspring. Have a couple records out but aren't that well-known as, say Indian Summer.
Emo dhardly still exists, it's a wave that came and went really. Just a couple bands left like Die Emperor, Toru Okada etc.

Yeah well I did my best when writing that definiton (Wow wrote the first paragraph, though) There is really no scene where I live (Quebec, Canada) So honestly everything I've written are things I summarized from what I see on this thread and a little bit over the internet. In short, I don't know **** about what the hardcore scene is like, and it kills me.

I'm still pretty much uneducated about the historical evolution of hardcore/emo, I started being interested in the genre about 6 months ago. I have a LOT to learn. :upset:

[tornpictures]

There's a 'scene' everywhere, you just have to look for it.

[DFelon204409]

EDIT: And a little sidenote for you to laugh about Nick, someone submitted a genre change on Sputnik for Thrice. Proposed new genre: Pop Rock... Yeah, right :rolleyes:

Butt sauce. Remember that time Thrice's new CD was inspired by Isis? Ya, I do.

[Damrod]

The best is, that is more of the 'harmless' change submissions, that fly in on Sputnik.

[DFelon204409]

I can imagine. The only time I've actively modded there was having to disapprove two crappy Green Day reviews that were pretty much half paragraphs on why Billie Joe rules.

[RCVA]

There's a 'scene' everywhere, you just have to look for it.
Or be it. Haha. In my town i'm fairly sure that i'm the only one who listens to hardcore and emo.

[Special Brew]

There's a 'scene' everywhere, you just have to look for it.
You are wrong. South eastern Kentucky has NO emo or hardcore scene. I want to play either one but no othe rmusicians around here even know what they are. I have been slowly educating some of my friends, but none of them like screamo/emo but a few are into hardcore a little.

[Special Brew]

Or be it. Haha. In my town i'm fairly sure that i'm the only one who listens to hardcore and emo.
I am too :upset:

[tornpictures]

Maybe among your friends you are.

[Special Brew]

Maybe among your friends you are.
I guess it's possible for someone to be into emo/hardcore, but they aren't open or active about it. I literally know everyone from ages 15-25 that play "rock" music around here. This is a small place with really nothing in it besides some Wal-Marts and gas stations. There may be a scene in Knoxville though, which is about an hour and a half drive from here, but I think that is my only chance.

[tornpictures]

Knoxville!! The Red Scare were from Knoxville!

But yeah, that sucks.

[Iron Bug]

Anyone know where I can buy a Q And Not U shirt?

[tornpictures]

www.dischord.com

[Special Brew]

Knoxville!! The Red Scare were from Knoxville!

But yeah, that sucks.
:eek:

I'm going to have to visit Knoxville soon...

[-1up!-]

Knoxville!! The Red Scare were from Knoxville!

But yeah, that sucks.

The Red Scare! They're amazing.

Anyone know of some Canadian emo scene? I'm guessing there must be something in the Toronto region... (which is 6 hours away from here :angry: ) The "big" city in my region is Montreal, I'm 30 mins away. I'll have to dig up the local bands and see.

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

Halifax has a good hardcore scene.

Risky business
Look Back
Make It Count
The Hold
Oh God
ect.

But no emo... There's crust bands, math rock bands, metalcore bands, indie bands, post hardcore bands... there's like three noisecore bands even... I'm starting an emo band with some freinds soon, it's gonna be really tight.

[whiteminority]

:eek:

I'm going to have to visit Knoxville soon...
I live literally ten minutes from Knoxville. The scene is not very good in terms of emo as in real emo. Otherwise there are some good metalcore and hardcore bands and one really good spazz band. I wish I knew the Red Scare were from my area.

[Special Brew]

I live literally ten minutes from Knoxville. The scene is not very good in terms of emo as in real emo. Otherwise there are some good metalcore and hardcore bands and one really good spazz band. I wish I knew the Red Scare were from my area.
Seriously? Could you give me a few names and possibly some venues to check out that regularly play metalcore/hardcore? I don't want to burden you, I just desperately need some culture and there is none in my local area, rofl.

[whiteminority]

This is Renaissance and Fall of the Fatalist are best. Old City Java usually have metalcore shows. Don't be expecting a thriving scene of emo and screamo though me and like two friends are the only ones who listen to emo primarily.

[DFelon204409]

You are wrong. South eastern Kentucky has NO emo or hardcore scene. I want to play either one but no othe rmusicians around here even know what they are. I have been slowly educating some of my friends, but none of them like screamo/emo but a few are into hardcore a little.

Dude. I've driven farther distances for shows than your whole state. Louisville definitely has hardcore bands and if you're way in the southeast then you aren't far from DC. Suck it up.

[whiteminority]

Dude how far have you driven to see a show? I have driven out to Philadelphia to see Pig Destroyer and I live nearer to Georgia than I do Kentucky, so its about I don't know far as all hell.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I've got to drive about an hour to every show.

[whiteminority]

An hour? Thats what I got to drive minimum for a good show since only local bands primarily in Knoxville.

the philly show took me through three states to get there and i had to be back in town next morning.

[DFelon204409]

I've driven 2.5 hours for a show before. And that's made more impressive when considering I like 40 minutes from San Jose, 20 minutes from San Francisco and 35 minutes from Berkeley.

[whiteminority]

I applaud your efforts. I live in a red state however and no great national bands have graced us with their presence.

[conniption]

dfelon should drive from williams to see us cover draculacore.

[DFelon204409]

I'm in California right now. I go back to school on the 4th.

[conniption]

I'm in California right now. I go back to school on the 4th.
we arent playing til mid-november, so its all good.

[DFelon204409]

Hahahaha I'd invite you to our school but I'm not an idiot.

[srt-4]

i regularly drive like 250 miles one way to shows. racked up about 4k miles going to shows just this summer.

[DFelon204409]

whoa. new fall of troy is cool.

[Mute Print]

whoa. new fall of troy is cool.
This is true. I'm really getting into these guys now, and I hope to go see them with FBTMOF in the fall.

[DFelon204409]

Me too. But it's the same night as Thrice unless we go to Boston. I'm confused.

[Mute Print]

Me too. But it's the same night as Thrice unless we go to Boston. I'm confused.
For me, it would be the same night as Saves the Day, unless I choose to go to see Saves the Day in Toronto, in which case I could go to both.

[deadohiosky9]

Hot Cross is playing like two shows with Fall of Troy.

[MachinegunFoot]

I like Thrice, and Underoath, and Norma Jean, and Emery, and Mae.

[Mute Print]

I like Thrice, and Underoath, and Norma Jean, and Emery, and Mae.
Um, awesome. So do I. But none of those bands are emo. They are still awesome though.

[Special Brew]

Dude. I've driven farther distances for shows than your whole state. Louisville definitely has hardcore bands and if you're way in the southeast then you aren't far from DC. Suck it up.
I've just recently became a fan of hardcore so I never really searched around up there. That is about one and a half to two hours from me. Are there any sites that could help me find bands and venues in specific areas? I want to checkout the Louisville and Knoxville scenes mainly.

[DFelon204409]

Dude I knew this Louisville band. It's something on Level Plane like anodyne. Lemme check.

[Special Brew]

Dude I knew this Louisville band. It's something on Level Plane like anodyne. Lemme check.
I didn't really understand that part, lol.

[deadohiosky9]

Level Plane is a label.

[Special Brew]

Level Plane is a label.
oic :thumb:

[deadohiosky9]

yes, Level Plane (http://www.level-plane.com) check it out. Lots of good bands.

[DFelon204409]

Ya. Who please post people's soulseeks. I just got it. I need to know!

[DFelon204409]

The band from Louisville I think is transistor transistor but I truly can't remember. It's probably a band on Robotic empire.

[Unleash the bastards]

Soulseek tip: go to the punk / hardcore / grind room and do a room search...way easier to find stuff

[DFelon204409]

No I know that. i want to be friends with my forummates though. <3

[Special Brew]

Soulseek tip: go to the punk / hardcore / grind room and do a room search...way easier to find stuff
Thats what I do. If you want, you can get stuff of me, I am DemonScream on slsk. Yeah, gay username but I couldn't think of anyting better at the time.

I think I've heard of Transistor Transistor, I will check them out tomorrow as well as search around on some sites looking for venues. Would there happen to be a list of venues anywhere that you guys know of, or perhaps you know some in Knoxville or Louisville?

Thanks for what help has been and may be provided. I'm off to bed, I leave slsk on so feel free to download from me. Goodnight :wave:

[Mute Print]

I use Soulseek. My username is user515. I have a lot of music, but most of it is pop-punk. You still might be able to find something you like though.

Note: I only allow people on my userlist to view my files, so send me a message and I will add you if I haven't already.

[Tjebby]

How good is Soulseek? I have been meaning to download it, but my computer situation is bad so i can't.

[Unleash the bastards]

it's great. you can find anything on there

[Mute Print]

I think Soulseek is awesome. I used to have Kazaa and Napster a long time ago, but they don't even compare to Soulseek. You can find a lot of great stuff on it.

[Unleash the bastards]

i use kazaa still to download hip-hop and metal stuff...cause i dont know any real unknown hip hop or metal bands i guess

[DFelon204409]

Soulseek rules. You should jsut get a spyware adware blocker.

[Mute Print]

I stopped using Kazaa because my brother's computer ended up with a virus, and I think Kazaa may have caused it. It had a lot of adware/spyware too.

[Tjebby]

AHH! Now i need to set up my computer. My dad is such a procastinator hes making me mad.

[Mute Print]

Computers are pretty easy to set up. What are you trying to do exactly?

[Tjebby]

Wireless internet on a computer that wont allow it. We had a situation, and we brought in an engineer to set it up, and he couldnt get it. So we thought of a plan shifting our computers, and he won't let me start. Its making me mad.

[Mute Print]

Oh. I see. I don't really know anything about that, but I'm guessing it's not too difficult if you know what you're doing. Two of the computers in my house have wireless internet, but we didn't have any problems setting it up.

[DFelon204409]

i use kazaa still to download hip-hop and metal stuff...cause i dont know any real unknown hip hop or metal bands i guess

Good (not unknown) Hip Hop:
Heiruspecs
RJD2
DJ Shadow
Deltron3030
De la Soul
Prefuse73

Good (not really unknown) Metal:
Pelican
isis
Between the Buried and Me
Botch
Unearth

Good (unknown) Metal:
Crowpath
Light This City
Maudlin of the Well

[Tjebby]

IBM computers? D Felon, do you know anything about computers?

[Unleash the bastards]

isis and botch rule. i'm gonna listen to isis now.

[DFelon204409]

IBM computers? D Felon, do you know anything about computers?

ya but I can't help you. I don't know how to configure every kind of router. Just wait. Beat up your deadbeat dad.

[Unleash the bastards]

isis relax the s'hit outta me

[DFelon204409]

They're great.

[DFelon204409]

Hey. After I criticized the member beyondtheblueprint for calling Blink182 hardcore punk, he went and voted against all of my reviews on sputnik. I used to have a perfect 1.0 rating and now it's a 7.1. It would mean a lot to me if you guys go to my page and vote up my songs to return them where they should be. I don't think an idiot like this guy should be allowed to romp around the forums as much as he pleases.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/profile.php?memberid=38638

^ My reviews.

EDIT: At the bottom of every review before the comments there's a section that asks "Is this review well written?" Just say yes.

[srt-4]

done

[RetiredAt21]

Why do people just randomly have to be d'icks like that?

[DFelon204409]

Well, I was a dick too. But nobody is going to go around calling Blink182 hardcore on my watch. Also he freaked out for no reason. I was being reasonable and then he just left.

[RetiredAt21]

He was definitely asking for it though. I would have been a d'ick too. Idiots that call Blink 182 hardcore should be killed. Or their fathers should beat them.

[tornpictures]

Ya. Who please post people's soulseeks. I just got it. I need to know!

chielxwalker

Hit me up- got lots of amazing stuff.

[Berserker!]

My soulseek is Berserker!

[Special Brew]

Good (not really unknown) Metal:
Pelican
isis
Between the Buried and Me
Unearth
:thumb: to all of those choices. Unearth is extremely popular, so anybody learning about metal should know them. BTBAM is pretty popular too, they are one of my all time favorite bands.

[cbmartinez]

Anodyne is the band you're thinking of D. They're on LP but they're more of a metal band.

[Iron Bug]

www.dischord.com
They dont sell shirts.

[tornpictures]

Anodyne is the band you're thinking of D. They're on LP but they're more of a metal band.

Alone Records released some of their stuff too.
And they're not ON any label, they're a DIY hardcore band, not some corporate piece of ****.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Is there anywhere I can get Neil Perry merch?

[tornpictures]

Make it yourself.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Okay.

[tornpictures]

Easy. White t-shirt + sharpie + ugly childish handwriting = Neil Perry shirt.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Thanks

[tornpictures]

Or you could screen it yourself.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I'll probrally just get some sharpies.

[tornpictures]

Screening is way more fun and more intricate etc.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I'll just go ahead and screen. My friend taught me how so it should be easy.

[Lazybassplr56]

Ya its cool but the picture usually doesn't last vey long. I've always wanted to learn how to do it.

[deadohiosky9]

my soulseek is awakeninatrophy, hit me up.

[whiteminority]

Screenprinting is cool. It's fun to make your own shirt and be the only person who has that shirt.

[whiteminority]

Anyone know of any MidWest indie influenced emo besides Cap'n Jazz?

[RetiredAt21]

I want to make myself an Impaled Northern Moonforest shirt. That'd be tight.

[whiteminority]

Make two and send me one. :thumb:

[Wow]

Anyone know of any MidWest indie influenced emo besides Cap'n Jazz?


Boy's Life.

[Saturday Supercade]

Christie Front Drive

[tornpictures]

Ya its cool but the picture usually doesn't last vey long. I've always wanted to learn how to do it.

Liar.

Screening is awesome quiality.

[tornpictures]

Anyone know of any MidWest indie influenced emo besides Cap'n Jazz?

Stricttly Ballroom
CFD
Boy's Life
Gauge
Friction
Braid (sort of)
etc etce tc

[whiteminority]

Thanks torn, wow, and saturday supercade.

[tornpictures]

More:

Audience of One
Empire State Games
State Route 522
Kolya (sort of)
Excitebike
Kossabone Red
Boilermaker (sort of)
Ethel Meserve
Bells on Trike

Done.

[Wow]

Kossabone Red are fun.

[tornpictures]

Yeah, but not half as good as the band they're ripping off.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Who do they rip off?

[tornpictures]

Check it out and you'll hear it instantly.

[Arrakakaka]

Here's Modern Life Is War - My Love. My Way.
hxxp://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LW1XY3OPQ3BL192SVQ01WZ333

[whiteminority]

dude that band ****ing kicks ***. but why did you post in emo? they are hardcore.

[tornpictures]

I'm not too into that kind of stuff.

[xcKyfan37x]

Is anyone from MA going to see FATA at the palladium saturday?

[whiteminority]

no because fata is popcore **** and please dont post in the emo/screamo thread with mainstream crap

[-1up!-]

Is anyone from MA going to see FATA at the palladium saturday?

I won't reply violently as whitemino, but... FATA is far from emo or screamo. Wrong thread.

[tornpictures]

-1up!- is totally a virgin.

[RetiredAt21]

Hahaha, but being a virgin totally turns slutty girls on.

[quick_death]

it does? :confused:

[Ampere]

Could someone direct me to where I'd be able to procure the discographies of both Christie Front Drive and Boy's Life? I've been unable to get them on soulseek.

[tornpictures]

chielxwalker on SouLSeek, hit me up.

[whiteminority]

whats wrong with being a virgin? you can get all the neccessties of horniness taken care of by chicks giving you head and if you are desperate enough masturbation.

[RetiredAt21]

I masturbate all the time and I have a girlfriend.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Hahahahaha

[Wow]

Yeah, I do the same. I have a 3 time a day habit 'cause I'm a total nymph. :p

[deadohiosky9]

3 times a day is insane. lmao.

[Wow]

Shut up, Curry. You'd do it too under the same circumstances.

[deadohiosky9]

i know. hahaha.

[Berserker!]

Yeah, I do the same. I have a 3 time a day habit 'cause I'm a total nymph. :p
1 or 2 for me.

[RetiredAt21]

I'm up to about 5.

[Lazybassplr56]

Listen to "Orgasam Addict" by The Buzzcocks. The lyrics are funny.

[Lazybassplr56]

well you tried it just for once found it all right for kicks.
but now you found out that it's a habit that sticks.
and you're an orgasm addict.
you're an orgasm addict.
sneaking in the back door with dirty magazines.
now your mother wants to know what all those stains on your jeans.
and you're an orgasm addict.
you're an orgasm addict.
uh huh, uh huh, uhhhhh, uhhhhh [x3]
you get in a heat, you get in a sulk.
but you still keep a beating your meat to pulp.
and you're an orgasm addict.
you're an orgasm addict.
you're a kid cassanova.
you're a no-josep it's a labour of love ****ing yourself to death.
orgasm addict.
you're an orgasm addict.
uh huh, uhhhhh [x10] you're makin' out with school kids, winos and heads of state.
you even made it with the lady, who puts the little plastic bobins on the christmas cakes.
butchers' assistants and bellhops, you've had them all here and there.
children of god and their joy-strings, international women with no body hair.
oooh, so where they're askin' in an alley and your voice ain't steady.
if your sex mechanic's rough you're more than ready.
you're an orgasm addict.
you're an orgasm addict.
johnny want ****ie always and all ways.
he's got the energy, he will remain.
he's an orgasm addict.
he's an orgasm addict.
he's always at it.
he's always at it.
and he's an orgasm addict.
he's an orgasm addict

[RetiredAt21]

The lyrics are also true. That song was actually written about me.

[cbmartinez]

The version on the 7" is better.

[Special Brew]

I masturbate all the time and I have a girlfriend.
123 :p

[DFelon204409]

Yeah, I do the same. I have a 3 time a day habit 'cause I'm a total nymph. :p

You're a girl?

[Wow]

You're a girl?


Nah, I just say I'm a nympho 'cause I don't like saying that I'm a sex-addict. :p
(And yes, I meant nympho, but didn't press the "o" key hard enough.)

[DFelon204409]

Nymphomaniac = female sex lover/addict
Satyrimaniac = male sex lover/addict

Get your etymology straight boy. What would Billy say. He'd call you an uber hax n00b for not remembering your latin/greek roots.

[-1up!-]

-1up!- is totally a virgin.
:lol: fortunately no.

But I'm in an no-**** situation since like... 10 months. Oh well :upset:

[tornpictures]

I hate where this is going.

[-1up!-]

Yeah so... is Love Like...Electrocution dead? Or still active?

/makes torn un-hateful