Emo Community Thread

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Tonight I am seeing anberlin, acceptance, code seven, and the main reason I'm going--saosin.

That show was on the other stage at the Kids Like Us show last night.

[DFelon204409]

Codeseven was really interesting and cool live.

[Bartender]

Are Grade worth checking out?

[StandingStill]

Yeah, they were cool. Shame about what happened after though...

[Bartender]

What is that? I'm completely ignorant to anything about them, other than that they are called Grade. A recommended release would be nice, too.

[vocman]

I have a question: can anyone upload some Emo for me? I Think I never heard it, because all the things I thought were emo turned out to be metalcore or something...

thx in advance

ps: which genre are the fall of troy?

[StandingStill]

What is that? I'm completely ignorant to anything about them, other than that they are called Grade. A recommended release would be nice, too.
Get 'Under The Radar' I think its generally considered to be their best album. After Grade the singer went on to form some abysmal pop-punk band whos name escapes me right now.

[Electric Ocean]

I have a question: can anyone upload some Emo for me? I Think I never heard it, because all the things I thought were emo turned out to be metalcore or something...

thx in advance

ps: which genre are the fall of troy?

Some Emo/Screamo:

City Of Caterpillar - ...And You're Wondering How A Top Floor Could Replace Heaven (http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2EMJFUGJNFTK60SXCGICJK4IXO)

Saetia - The Poet You Never Were (http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1X98WXTNW8XM10TWL0X6EUL6CR)

Saetia - Venus & Bacchus (http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2E0TRJ54EN56B3C8KR3EAVM2MI)

Hot Cross - Fortune Teller (http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0VEX576TDDYTX096UHDG6QPLZ2)

I Would Set Myself On Fire For You - The First Word That Comes To Mind (http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0KHWWIR9L58YX24CUG5FDK5DKA)

Trophy Scars - Designed Like Dice (Crickets In Tune) (http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2RVSY3Z7PJ6F9058OEGWCJW6ZZ)

Circle Takes The Square - A Non-Objective Portrait Of Karma (http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=25YE4UCRWSB7W1QZQ6BKL0CEU9)

Indian Summer - Angry Son (http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27OYU4PL9N9VR0M7X5OMTPDW76)

Antioch Arrow - In Love With Jetts (http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ERF2F8O12OOY1KHIOYKYUZ4FV)

These might not be the perfect examples but they were stuff that I'd already uploaded for another toolish forum I found last week where only like me and 3 other people knew what was up. The links should still be valid but I'm not sure for how long.

[vocman]

thank you very much. indeed, it doesn't sound like metalcore...

[~All my life~]

To me, alot of emo music sounds very...um random. Esspecially old emo.

[Wow]

No song structures = hot.

[syurix]

^^^
In agreeance

Kill Sadie "The Laugh Track for Contemporary Music"
Antioch Arrow "Space Age"

After that, your listening to free jazz ;)

Anyone else have recs for scr/emo stuff that's got weird or no obvious structure?

[DFelon204409]

Off Minor and You and I often ditch typical song structure.

[Electric Ocean]

People have been clogging the emo section of Sputnik with non-emo stuff again, can we get rid of it?

[SpecialBoy]

Straylight Run...

[DFelon204409]

I am getting rid of it. Your responsibility for now is to write an emo review so that when we get rid of the other reviews the section won't look so sparse.

[Electric Ocean]

Sure, I'll do I Would Set Myself's Self-Titled when I get some free time.

[StrivingForChange]

Does anyone else listen to I Hate Myself? They are a really good band. It's too bad they didn't put out more albums.
They are screamo but are very diverse at the same time.
If you're interested check out songs: To A Husband At War and Conversations With Dr. Seussicide.

[BuddyBigsby]

IHM were a great band.

[StrivingForChange]

IHM were a great band.

Oh cool. Do you have Four Songs? I only have Ten Songs. I've heard most of the songs on Four, but that was awhile ago.
If you could send them to me through e-mail or AIM that would be cool.

[BuddyBigsby]

I only have some random mp3s, none of their releases whole.

[syurix]

Off Minor and You and I often ditch typical song structure.
how could i forget?

[LoveReality]

I might see The Fall of Troy and this band i like called Maida at The Knitting Factory in Hollywood. This other band called ABW is playing but I never heard them.

[LoveReality]

I also might see Nevea Tears, Planes Mistaken For Stars, Bear Vs Shark, In Memory Bullet Train To Vegas , and Shotblue at the same venue on the 18th.

[BuddyBigsby]

Dude, you need to hop off of that Nevea Tears train.

[cbmartinez]

I still don't get the big deal about PMFS.

[DFelon204409]

how could i forget?

I know you wouldn't forget the touch of a lover as great as you and i.

[LoveReality]

Dude, you need to hop off of that Nevea Tears train.
What about the Maida train.....want to hop on? :naughty:

[sink sink]

Oh cool. Do you have Four Songs? I only have Ten Songs. I've heard most of the songs on Four, but that was awhile ago.
If you could send them to me through e-mail or AIM that would be cool.
I uploaded Four Songs in the File Sharing Thread - http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0J0ZT2MDC8IDT2RA6FDDLEC3AC

[BuddyBigsby]

www.myspace.com/graforlock
tomorrow we will be recording the something new for our split lp with greyskull. this record will be epic you victims of parents that shook their babies

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06/13/2005 08:00 PM - the poison apple
8714 vermont, los angeles, CA 90001 -

w/ the assailant

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06/14/2005 08:00 PM - Che Cafe
UCSD Campus, La Jolla, CA 92092 - $5

Gorlock, The Assailant, plus 2 or 3 more

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06/16/2005 08:00 PM - Metal Devastation Records
2459 n. 16th street, phoenix, 85001 -



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06/17/2005 08:00 PM - Fitzgeralds
, Houston, TX 77001 - ?

w/Bleeding Kansas and Kidnap Soundtrack

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06/18/2005 08:00 PM - Place
, Baton Rouge, 70801 -

w/ Bleeding Kansas

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06/19/2005 08:00 PM - Hub City Skatepark
114 Broadway Drive, Hattiesburg, MS 39401 -

w/ Bleeding Kansas

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06/20/2005 08:00 PM - Place
, Memphis, TN 37501 -

w/ Bleeding Kansas

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06/21/2005 08:00 PM - Chad's Wonderment Palace
, Clarksville, TN 37040 -

w/ Bleeding Kansas

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06/22/2005 08:00 PM - place
, Birmingham , AL -

w/Bleeding Kansas

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06/23/2005 08:00 PM - Under the couch
, Atlanta, GA 30301 -

w/ Bleeding Kansas, THe Power and the Glory

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06/24/2005 08:00 PM - Dan's Romantic GEtaway
, Tallahassee, FL 32301 -

w/Bleeding Kansas and The Power and the Glory

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06/25/2005 08:00 PM - Nicely's
, Daytona , FL 32114 -

Bleeding Kansas, The Power and the Glory

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06/26/2005 08:00 PM - place
, Miami, FL 33101 -

Bleeding Kansas

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06/27/2005 08:00 PM - place
, Orlando , FL -

Bleeding Kansas

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06/28/2005 08:00 PM - place
, St Augustine, FL -

Bleeding Kansas

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06/29/2005 08:00 PM - place
, Savannah , GA -

Bleeding Kansas, Control

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06/30/2005 08:00 PM - place
, Columbia, SC 29201 -

Bleeding Kansas, Control

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07/06/2005 08:00 PM - VFW
1300 star avenue, eau claire, WI 54701 - $5

rick johnson rock and roll machine, chest missile, silvering, amniotics

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07/07/2005 08:00 PM - rad show
645 Rochelle Terrace , Lombard , IL 60148 - ?

gorlock, gunkata

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07/08/2005 08:00 PM - place
, Lincoln , NE -

w/ Fortunate Son and Final Fight

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07/09/2005 08:00 PM - house ****ing show
, provo, UT 84601 - shut up



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07/10/2005 08:00 PM - Vegan Barbecue
, Reno, NV 89501 - free

this will rule

I HIGHLY recommend this local band. They're not emo/screamo, but they're pretty grindy stuff that I figure a lot of you will dig. They thrive on movie samples too, but do an awesome job with incorporating them into the music, unlike most. Think of it as Cinema Grind. At least check out the link, if nothing more, you'll get a good laugh.

[StrivingForChange]

I uploaded Four Songs in the File Sharing Thread - http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0J0ZT2MDC8IDT2RA6FDDLEC3AC

Ah you are so awesome. Thank you so much man.

[RetiredAt21]

Cinema Grind? That's just crazy enough to work.

[pixiesfanyo]

Bigsby that sounds like every other grind band.

What we need is a grind band that has a DJ who makes samples into lyrics.

[Chiller_Than_Most]

Bigsby that sounds like every other grind band

Yeah, just about every "white belt" grind band does that.

[BuddyBigsby]

No. They do it better. You people know nothing.

[Sep]

No. They do it better. You people know nothing.

I'm listening now. It's really good stuff.

[whiteminority]

their stuff is good. not really too stand out as a innovative grind band though.

[RetiredAt21]

I liked it. They sound pretty different to me.

[conniption]

i know this has been talked about before, but what are some(or any) french screamo/emo bands?

[cbmartinez]

Amanda Woodward.

[StandingStill]

Daïtro

[Wow]

I recently discovered Toru Okada and I'm REALLY liking them. Anyone else dig?


myspace.com/toruokada

[StandingStill]

Yeah this is good stuff, kinda chilled out but intense at the same time. Cheers for the tip.

[Wow]

Anytime. I'm trying to buy a 12" from their singer but he hasn't gotten back to me yet. :(

[ifscarscouldspeak]

ok, ok, ok. if any of you people want to hear a good combination of both you should definitely check out the band Monroe from jacksonville, FL. at http://www.myspace.com/monroe

[Saturday Supercade]

originally posted by Wow
I recently discovered Toru Okada and I'm REALLY liking them. Anyone else dig?

Great band! The first time I saw there name, I thought they were a Japanese band or something. Our Great Cities is a real good song!

[conniption]

the kodan armada, thats from the last starfighter, haha, what a sweet name for a band

[conniption]

and a really good band

[cbmartinez]

They rule.

[Wow]

The Kodan Armada are a great band. The ending of Bullshit Buffet = greatest moment in music ever.

[captainhaddock]

the "we are not invincible" part in short walks down long roads = greatest moment in music ever

[Wow]

Lies and a twisted tongue.

[kodan armada]

butterfly effect will always be my favorite kodan armada song

[conniption]

my favorite song is "if i wanted to hear the beat of your heart i would rip it out and stick it next to my ear"

such a good song

[PlasticGangster]

she notes the chariots and life is a fight are my two favorite bands right now. i'm so hooked.

[StandingStill]

butterfly effect will always be my favorite kodan armada song
For me its 'I Wish I Didnt Hate Myself' even though it has lame title.

[conniption]

For me its 'I Wish I Didnt Hate Myself' even though it has lame title.
its "iwishididnthatemyselfdotcom"

it has reasoning behind the title, but i dont have the lyrics, so i dont know it

[StandingStill]

really? The compilation I have it on labels it different, but Im sure your right. (loses 1000 scene points) I like that title a lot better.

[conniption]

really? The compilation I have it on labels it different, but Im sure your right. (loses 1000 scene points) I like that title a lot better.
yea, i think its about how we have to use the internet to complete daily tasks or something like that, im probably completely wrong or right, but its something like that.

[cbmartinez]

My favorite would have to be "In Da Club."

[Wow]

143 (jcm) by You And I is ****ing incredible. I demand you all go and listen to it and for cb to get on AIM so I can send it to him.

[Electric Ocean]

I've never heard any You And I, could you send me that song if I go on MSN?

[DFelon204409]

143 (jcm) by You And I is ****ing incredible. I demand you all go and listen to it and for cb to get on AIM so I can send it to him.

How about you lick my balls. I was repping that crap with my review that you all AHTE I HATE ALL OF YOUT TOO!!!!


:upset:

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

My favorite would have to be "In Da Club."
I can play that 50 Cent song on the guitar.

[Wow]

How about you lick my balls. I was repping that crap with my review that you all AHTE I HATE ALL OF YOUT TOO!!!!


:upset:


I love you?

[whiteminority]

I can play that 50 Cent song on the guitar.
didnt know they had any guitars in there.

[cbmartinez]

He learned it because the chick he's mackin' on likes Fitty.

[pixiesfanyo]

didnt know they had any guitars in there.

just because a song doesn't have guitar doesn't mean you can't learn it on guitar.

dumbhead.

[cbmartinez]

I play the synth line to "Cutsman" on my git box.

[whiteminority]

just because a song doesn't have guitar doesn't mean you can't learn it on guitar.

dumbhead.
my bad.

[indian_summer_alt]

Hi everyone! im new here! :lol: can you guys recommend me some bands that have intense vocals like Moss Icon?

[cbmartinez]

Kite Flying Society, Hot Cross, Saetia, Heron

[BridgeToSolace]

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1X6VLWRC69N2T0W5KOKJ8AO85A

Kite-Flying Society - Art Of Conversation.

Just for you, mate.

[Wow]

A Twisted Path on the S/T > All other KFS stuff.

[BridgeToSolace]

A Twisted Path on the S/T > All other KFS stuff.

I'd say AOC is better to showcase the vocals though.

I haven't listened to Twisted Path in a while though.

[Wow]

A Twisted Path is better for sure. Just listen to the part where the singer screams "And I am holding on. And I have been holding on."

[BridgeToSolace]

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28A00V0EXRWT01OEKYM57N08Y9

Kite-Flying Society - A Twisted Path. Self-titled version.

/sucks Ash's dick

[DFelon204409]

I require more right now it's so good!

[BridgeToSolace]

I require more right now it's so good!

Want me to AIM 'em?

I've got Jochem EP and the Self-titled.

It wont be at 345345345345345 kb/s though.

[PlasticGangster]

is it just me or the only song i could get into by the kite flying society is "a twisted path"

[BridgeToSolace]

is it just me or the only song i could get into by the kite flying society is "a twisted path"

It's just you.

The Self-Titled is jesus.

[Wow]

I have the Jochem and S/T. They recorded a Full Length but never released it. I know a few people who have it and I'm trying to get my hands on it. If I find it, I'll send it to you jon.

[PlasticGangster]

i was really into jr ewing like last month. "the switch" was a dank tune.

[whiteminority]

Kite Flying Society kicks major ***.

[Wow]

Yes they do.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

This thread is lame compared to the hardcore/metalcore community thread.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, this thread hasn't really garnered that much discussion.

[wileycoyote]

I like the blood brothers, they have a very...unique voice, but i like it. it just takes you over

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

yup.......

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I like the blood brothers, they have a very...unique voice, but i like it. it just takes you over
Most people here like the blood brothers :thumb:

[Bartender]

Yeah, this thread hasn't really garnered that much discussion.

Well, why not make discussion?

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

What are you guys doing today?

[DFelon204409]

Taking my bro to tennis camp.

Ya this thread is lamer because people don't treat it like a community thread. You don't only have to talk about music here.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Oh, I'm sooo bored. I might call up some of my friends and hang out with them.

[Saturday Supercade]

I had to work from 6 am to 5 pm, and it's like 35 degrees Celsius here (I don't know how much Fahrenheit that is, but it's really hot!) :(

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

What was your job?

[RetiredAt21]

I quit my job, it sucked.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Oh what was your job?

[RetiredAt21]

A convenience store that gets robbed once a month. I was never there when it was robbed though.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Oh that sucks. I use to have a job. I worked for my dad. I would help install floors and carpet and tiles. I would work about 8-10 hours and get paid $10 an hour. I did that during winter break and came back to school with about $500 dollers in my pocket. I still had more cash at my house too. Pretty good for a 14 year old.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, that's not too shabby at all for a 14 year old. That's probably more money than I made at that stupid convenience store.

[Electric Ocean]

I've gotta apply for a job soon, I need about £1000 so I can get car insurance, it's gonna take ages though :upset:.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Yeah, that's not too shabby at all for a 14 year old. That's probably more money than I made at that stupid convenience store.
Well actually I was 13 back then. I turned 14 a month later.

[RetiredAt21]

**** boy, you could buy some bling.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I can get the job with my dad again. I can go anytime I want to.

[RetiredAt21]

Do it. And then give me the money that you make. We will be friends.

[Electric Ocean]

I think he should give it to me so I can use my car to do a drive-by.

[RetiredAt21]

Only if you tape the drive-by.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I don't know, I like having the summer off and getting money anyways

[Electric Ocean]

Only if you tape the drive-by

It's a done deal.

I don't like being the only person on this page with an avatar. The rest of you all look the same like some sort of ethnic minority.

[RetiredAt21]

I've never had an avatar. I'm tr00.

[Berserker!]

Voila.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I've never had an avatar. I'm tr00.
I've never had an avatar too so I'm tr00 :thumb: :cool:

[incubliss]

i'm really getting into Circle Takes the Square now.

i dismissed them a while ago, saying i didn't like their music but i just love the agression, and the emotion put into the songs. i listen to As the Roots Undo on my minidisk everyday.

Amazon doesn't have anything other than ATRU tho, i'm sure it's not the only CD. am i right?

[Electric Ocean]

Nah, they have a Self-Titled but I'm fairly sure it's out of print; I've never seen anywhere still selling it anyway.

[whiteminority]

why have an avatar? no point.

[RetiredAt21]

I they did a split with Pg. 99 I think.

[Berserker!]

I've never had an avatar too so I'm tr00 :thumb: :cool:

You've been here 3 months.

[RetiredAt21]

So what? He's still tr00.

[whiteminority]

Anyone in here like the band Orchid??? I think they kick *** and wereone of the first screamo bands I listened to.

[RetiredAt21]

Orchid is awesome. Death of a Modernist is one of my favorite songs.

[Electric Ocean]

why have an avatar? no point.

Because it takes me time and effort to read your usernames rather than just recognizing your avatars.

[RetiredAt21]

Electric, I liked your old avatar better.

[whiteminority]

I like their song Epilogue of a Car Crash the best. Is it true that they did a split with Pig Destroyer?

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, and it was awesome.

[Electric Ocean]

Electric, I liked your old avatar better.

He started to get annoying so he had to go.

[RetiredAt21]

Aww...

[Electric Ocean]

Oh go on, just for you then...

[Berserker!]

Yay!

It'd be better if it was Cuntsman.

[whiteminority]

Your avatar kicks *** Beserker.

[cbmartinez]

This thread was awesome back in the day. When it was a refuge in Other Music for us emo fags.

[DFelon204409]

This thread was awesome back in the day. When it was a refuge in Other Music for us emo fags.

Ya, I am sorta nostalgic for being able to so thoroughly pwn people on a daily basis.

[cbmartinez]

Yeah, those were the days...

/remembers my Glassjaw review

[Bartender]

You could always change it back to what it was in Other, and put it back there. Two community threads in one forum seems kind of redundant anyway.

[RetiredAt21]

tr00f.

[RetiredAt21]

Wow, I just noticed that Electric changed his avatar...just for me.

[Wow]

Ya, I am sorta nostalgic for being able to so thoroughly pwn people on a daily basis.


Word.


Also, why are Trophy Scars under the Emo list when they're not emo?

[whiteminority]

Trophy Scars are awesome! Seeing them on the 4th of July!!! :)

[RetiredAt21]

I've never heard any Trophy Scars. Any recommendations on where to start?

[whiteminority]

just goto http://www.purevolume.com/trophyscars

[Wow]

Trophy Scars are awesome! Seeing them on the 4th of July!!! :)


Yes they are. They're my favorite band, but they're still not emo. :p

[whiteminority]

true but someone mentioned them in here so id thought id post about them in here.

[DFelon204409]

Word.


Also, why are Trophy Scars under the Emo list when they're not emo?

Because you use a bidet.

Bartender, I would merge it with Hardcore/Metalcore before ever moving it back to other music.

[RetiredAt21]

Thanks Ben, I didn't know they had a Purevolume. I like'em.

[Electric Ocean]

They're old stuff is my favourite personally, especially "Designed Like Dice".

[RetiredAt21]

Cool, I'll check more of their stuff out.

[Wow]

The Hair-Trigger Flemenco represent.

[DFelon204409]

They're old stuff is my favourite personally, especially "Designed Like Dice".

You mean their middle stuff. Darts to the Sea is their first and only LP.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

What are you guys doing today?

[Wow]

Thinking about doing some shrooms and recording some icecreamxcore. You?

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

cool, nothing much. I'm really bored.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I need some cash

[DFelon204409]

Thinking about doing some shrooms and recording some icecreamxcore. You?

So pretty much you're ripping off DRACULACORE. That's so lame.

[mshort813]

Speaking of Trophy Scars,(a few posts back) my friends band is playing with then on September 16. Everyone in the north Jersey area, be sure to go!

Hamilton Street Cafe, Sept. 16, Noon?:
Trophy Scars
The Prime
Five Across the Eyes
Nobody Knew Who They Were or What They Were Doing
one more TBA.

[whiteminority]

Thanks Ben, I didn't know they had a Purevolume. I like'em.
They are quite the awesome.

[Wow]

So pretty much you're ripping off DRACULACORE. That's so lame.


Actually, no. We've been doing this since before I even registered here. Zach and I have always been playing random **** in my basement screaming about icecream and the like, but it was just recently when we discovered myspace and that we could record and have a site for it. Sorry to rain on your parade.

[DFelon204409]

Actually, no. We've been doing this since before I even registered here. Zach and I have always been playing random **** in my basement screaming about icecream and the like, but it was just recently when we discovered myspace and that we could record and have a site for it. Sorry to rain on your parade.

Your registration date = Jan 2003

DRACULACORE = forever

[Wow]

I said before I registered meaning we very well could = forever too. <3

[BridgeToSolace]

So pretty much you're ripping off DRACULACORE. That's so lame.

Icecreamxcore >>>>>> Draculacore.

And it's not as if screaming random **** was invented by Draculacore anyway.

[cbmartinez]

SunnyDay, don't turn this into a "What are you doing today" thread. I know it says community but I'd prefer it's keep to emo discussion.

[RetiredAt21]

I've never heard Draculaxcore or Icecreamxcore. I want to hear both.

[Wow]

www.myspace.com/icecreamcore


Yes, it's a joke

[RetiredAt21]

The link doesn't work.

[Wow]

That's 'cause it has the lame musiciansforums.com thing before the link. Copy and paste it.

[RetiredAt21]

Alrighty.

[UnDeRoAtHfAn777]

can someone explain to me why hot cross and saetia are emo but ctts and iwouldsetetc and such are screamo???

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

www.myspace.com/icecreamcore


Yes, it's a joke
I scream, you scream, for ice cream!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wow]

can someone explain to me why hot cross and saetia are emo but ctts and iwouldsetetc and such are screamo???


Well if you want to get technical, Saetia are more artsy hardcore and Hot Cross lack the massive amount of emotion that goes along with emo, but yeah, they're calmer than most bands in the screamo genre. Sure Saetia have bursts of chaos, but they're usually very short with a few exceptions.

[DFelon204409]

Icecreamxcore >>>>>> Draculacore.

And it's not as if screaming random **** was invented by Draculacore anyway.

I'd hardly call music handed down from Dracula himself is random.

[DFelon204409]

I've never heard Draculaxcore or Icecreamxcore. I want to hear both.

www.hxcmp3.com/bands/12660
www.myspace.com/DRACULACORE

[BridgeToSolace]

I'd hardly call music handed down from Dracula himself is random.

So then he's not ripping you off at all.

You make un-random structured genius.

He makes unstructured random genius.

I don't see how you could copy someone by doing the exact opposite.

[DFelon204409]

DRACULACORE transcends words like "structured" or "random." You just don't get it.

[RetiredAt21]

I kinda like Draculaxcore.

[littledrummerboy]

HAHAHAH icecream core is the ****!

[Wow]

Thanks. :)

[YDload]

the best name for all those bands falsely given the label "emo" or "screamo" would definitely be "myspacecore." \m/

[cbmartinez]

Hahaha.

[Wow]

Good idea.

[RetiredAt21]

My friend listens to alot of pop-punk, but calls all the bands he listens to emo or screamo. I tried explaining emo and screamo to him about a million times, but he just doesn't listen, so I think I'm gonna shoot him in the anus with a crossbow.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Do it

[RetiredAt21]

I'm gonna, I just have to get him away from his girlfriend, or you know, she'll call the police, have me arrested and all that. Or I could just shoot her too.

[Wow]

Beat him with a Billy Club

[RetiredAt21]

Funny you should mention a Billy Club, my friend's name is Billy.

[whiteminority]

dont shoot him just give him some music that is actually emo/screamo
may i suggest Saetia or Love Like... Electrocution.?

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, I'm sure he would like Saetia. He already likes a bit of Hot Cross, but I think screamo would be too chaotic for him. He does like a smidgen of Orchid though.

[whiteminority]

Make him listen to Epilogue of a Car Crash by Orchid. That was my first screamo song ever and it kicked so much *** .

[RetiredAt21]

I had him listen to my favorite Orchid song, "Death of a Modernist" and he liked it. I'll just expose him to more, little by little.

[whiteminority]

Does he listen to any grindcore? I had listened to like Agoraphobic Nosebleed and Pig Destroyer for a while before I got into screamo and it seemed like a natural progression. So if he's down with grind it shouldn't be too chaotic for him.

[RetiredAt21]

He hates grind. But he thinks Anal Cunt is pretty funny. But I'm not sure if he actually likes the music.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

make him listen to As The Sun Sets

[RetiredAt21]

He would hate that. I wouldn't even bother.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Oh what about.......Funeral Diner?

[used334]

make him listen to this...
http://www.purevolume.com/behindcrimsoneyes
:evil:

where his faith now
haha

[whiteminority]

Oh what about.......Funeral Diner?
thats decent shi't.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

What time is it in your state?

[mediocrityXkills]

Is it bad that I'm disagreeing with some of the bands listed in the emo section?

I realize i'm a 'newb', but that doesn't hinder my knowledge of music, especially the genre screamo. Surely not all of you agree with the list..

[DFelon204409]

It is merely a guideline. A base camp for n00blets like you who want to self-educate. Where do you find fault in the list?

[mediocrityXkills]

I find it funny how I read the rules and guidelines on this group, and you have the audacity to point out that I'm new on the threads, when it mentions that elitists, like yourself, shouldn't post about anyone new, old, etc etc..

So many posts make you knowledgable about music? Uhh no. I've seen many posts by people that have over 1000 posts or so and are complete dimwits, you're proof of this. There's no need in being rude when you know nothing of my musical preference or knowledge, this has nothing to do with self-educating, it has to do with common sense..

Saetia, Hot Cross, Spirit of Versailles, Trophy Scars, Funeral Diner, etc etc..ALOT of the emo bands list is not correct, you obviously don't know what actual emo bands are. I'd gladly list you tons..but you barely even have any of the actual and/or even original emo bands. Anywho, as negative as this post sounds, I'm not trying to be mean, just informing you. If you want to take this comment in a pessimistic way, then so be it, but you should really look at it as constructive crticism. I may not know everything, and neither do you, but I know for sure the amount of posts someone makes doesn't make them correct, nor does it prove that someone's points are valid, so don't point me out as a 'nooblet' and talk down to me as if I know nothing, when I've plainly proven that I know more than you've given me credit for.

[Wow]

Mediocrity, I think I love you. Finally, someone who knows their ****.
I can understand people adding Saetia and Hot Cross and bands similar, 'cause they are very close to the emo genre, but to have Trophy Scars on an emo list? Come on.

[StandingStill]

I'm sure you're very knowledgeable, but you can't just make statements like 'I'd gladly list you tons..but you barely even have any of the actual and/or even original emo bands' without backing them up. If you have an opinion on the genre classification these kids are using share it, tell us what you consider to be an emo band and why the present definition/list is flawed. Present an argument!!!

When a new person comes on here it tends to be someone claiming that Taking Back Sunday is the best emo band and everyone here is an idiot for not agreeing. So perhaps you can forgive the veterans of this board being more than a little cynical when someone comes on and tells them their band list is wrong. That guy is normally really helpful and nice, hence him being a mod. Maybe he was just having a bad day.

(I dont really think trophy scars is emo either....)

[Electric Ocean]

Why's everyone hating on Dfelon, I didn't see anything offensive about what he said, just explaining why the list was there.

Also, I see how some people feel that the newer "emo" bands don't belong in the same genre as the late 80's/early 90's ones, but seperating and over-analysing a genre that is already misunderstood is just going to split it into factions even more.

[cbmartinez]

The Saetia thing is bullshit. Torn left, remember? I don't want to hear "Saetia is an extremely emotional hardcore band, not an emo band," that's bullshit. I mean, you can be picky to a point. I could go through every hardcore band and say "Blacklisted is a heavy, fast punk band not a hardcore band." Every single band on that list has enough emotion to the point where there should clearly be a diffrent sub genre for them.

[Nataroo]

Also, I see how some people feel that the newer "emo" bands don't belong in the same genre as the late 80's/early 90's ones, but seperating and over-analysing a genre that is already misunderstood is just going to seperate it into factions even more.

Truf.

[DFelon204409]

Look mediocrity. That list is loose for a reason; I wanted to include as many similar bands as possible to lend accessibility and diversity to the list. Also, I didn't create more than 20% of the list. I just compiled it from a group consensus about a year ago. If you have things you want to add just e-mail them or IM them to me. Hell man, post them here, I don't care.

P.S. Post count doesn't matter. I've been here for almost four years. That's about five posts a day, which isn't too unreasonable. I hope you would assume I know stuff based not on post count but on my being a mod or by reading posts I've written.

Wow, you're just pissy bashed icecreamcore. Take a Midol.

[Wow]

The Saetia thing is bullshit. Torn left, remember? I don't want to hear "Saetia is an extremely emotional hardcore band, not an emo band," that's bullshit. I mean, you can be picky to a point. I could go through every hardcore band and say "Blacklisted is a heavy, fast punk band not a hardcore band." Every single band on that list has enough emotion to the point where there should clearly be a diffrent sub genre for them.


I fail to see a lot of emotion from Saetia, actually. Sure there's exceptions (1:50 on Some Natures ftw) but yeah. And after watching live videos, I fail to see the emotion even more. It's more just like Billy has a voice that sounds sad but he isn't.


Artsy hardcore. Feel free to drop some knowledge bombs on me.


Edit: I wasn't saying ANYTHING against you, Dfelon. I don't give a **** if you bash icecreamxcore, hell I bash icecreamxcore. It's a stupid joke band but I have fun in it. All I said is that a lot of people don't know as much as some people think and that Trophy Scars shouldn't be on the list. I fail to see where it got personal.

[Saturday Supercade]

The list is indeed just a guideline, so don't come complaining if your favourite emo-bands aren't on that list..the list is correct (well, except for Trophy Scars maybe). And yes, the late 80's and early 90's emo is differrent from the newer emo like Electric Ocean mentioned, but that doesn't mean the newer emo isn't emo at all. Every type of music evolves over the years even if it is just a little bit. And you wouldn't call Still life, Indian Summer, Rites of Spring, Native Nod etc original emo-bands?? Because those bands are on the list to.
Maybe it wasn't really nice of Dfelon to call you a noob, but so far you haven't proven otherwise.

[deadohiosky9]

I fail to see a lot of emotion from Saetia, actually. Sure there's exceptions (1:50 on Some Natures ftw) but yeah. And after watching live videos, I fail to see the emotion even more. It's more just like Billy has a voice that sounds sad but he isn't.


Artsy hardcore. Feel free to drop some knowledge bombs on me.


Edit: I wasn't saying ANYTHING against you, Dfelon. I don't give a **** if you bash icecreamxcore, hell I bash icecreamxcore. It's a stupid joke band but I have fun in it. All I said is that a lot of people don't know as much as some people think and that Trophy Scars shouldn't be on the list. I fail to see where it got personal.

Saetia doesn't really have that over the top omfg emotion. They have a lot of emotion, but compared to some other bands, it just mediocre. I'm sure Billy was sad when he wrote, cause those lyrics are sad, but i do think his voice exentuates his sadness. Plus, for me at least, I heard Saetia before any other emo/screamo band. So they were like amazng then, but once you hear more bands, that are more emotional, they stay amazing, but not as much. And you see that there isn't AS much emotion as you thought.

[Wow]

City Of Caterpillar aren't screamo. They took the idea of emo and branched off and did some really ****eded up **** a lot of people call post-emo. Clikatat Ikatowi and Antioch Arrow screamo? What the hell? Where is this Love Lost But Not Forgotten style material I haven't heard? Everything I have by them is no where NEAR that level of chaos. Antioch are just kinda fast at some points and Clikatat are pretty mellow from what I've heard.


A lot of the list is correct, yeah, but there's some big mistakes. I don't really care all that much but if someone brings it up, I'll talk about it. Having bands like Trophy Scars on there though can cause lots of confusion.


I agree with you about new emo.


Edit: To Saturday Supercade

[cbmartinez]

I fail to see a lot of emotion from Saetia, actually. Sure there's exceptions (1:50 on Some Natures ftw) but yeah. And after watching live videos, I fail to see the emotion even more. It's more just like Billy has a voice that sounds sad but he isn't.


Artsy hardcore. Feel free to drop some knowledge bombs on me.


Edit: I wasn't saying ANYTHING against you, Dfelon. I don't give a **** if you bash icecreamxcore, hell I bash icecreamxcore. It's a stupid joke band but I have fun in it. All I said is that a lot of people don't know as much as some people think and that Trophy Scars shouldn't be on the list. I fail to see where it got personal.

I agree with the Trophy Scars thing but crying doesn't alwaysequal emotion. Torn used that bullshit argument already, what seperates emo from hardcore is that the bands cried onstage Saetia's emotion comes from the blend of introspective picking lines and emotional vocals (I don't agree, Billy's vocals are very emotional in my eyes). Dashboard has a song in which Chris cries, does that make it emo?

[Wow]

I never said anything about crying, I said that I fail to see a lot of emotion. Indian Summer are emo and they never cried (maybe in woolworm, but I think they only did that live).

[cbmartinez]

Right, but you see how this is semantics. Let's take Slayer and System Of A Down. They're both metal. Sure one is more metal than the other but they still both fit under metal.

[Wow]

System Of A Down are a different type of metal. One is metal, one's nu-metal.


Saetia is a different type of hardcore. One's an artsy hardcore band, one's an emotional hardcore band.

[Saturday Supercade]

originally posted by Wow
Clikatat Ikatowi and Antioch Arrow screamo? What the hell?

I wouldn't call bands like that screamo to..They are sometimes harder and faster than other emo bands but I agree with you that they are not screamo. My opinion is that there is a certain difference between "hardcore-emo" bands (thats what I call bands like CLikatat and Antioch) and screamo-bands. But most of the times I put them both under the file; screamo.

But actually I wasn't saying anything about the screamo-list, just about the emo-list.

[whiteminority]

The Saetia thing is bullshit. Torn left, remember? I don't want to hear "Saetia is an extremely emotional hardcore band, not an emo band," that's bullshit. I mean, you can be picky to a point. I could go through every hardcore band and say "Blacklisted is a heavy, fast punk band not a hardcore band." Every single band on that list has enough emotion to the point where there should clearly be a diffrent sub genre for them.
That is one of the most rational thoughts in that whole argument. Bravo.

[RetiredAt21]

Imaginary rep to cb.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Can we all just get along? Where is the love?

[mediocrityXkills]

The list is indeed just a guideline, so don't come complaining if your favourite emo-bands aren't on that list..the list is correct (well, except for Trophy Scars maybe). And yes, the late 80's and early 90's emo is differrent from the newer emo like Electric Ocean mentioned, but that doesn't mean the newer emo isn't emo at all. Every type of music evolves over the years even if it is just a little bit. And you wouldn't call Still life, Indian Summer, Rites of Spring, Native Nod etc original emo-bands?? Because those bands are on the list to.
Maybe it wasn't really nice of Dfelon to call you a noob, but so far you haven't proven otherwise.
To be honest, I did jump this situation in a harsh manner and probably shouldn't have introduced myself like this, but apparently I've made a big splash, no? Eh, back on to topic..I didn't say that Still Life, Indian Summer, Rites of Spring, etc etc wasn't original emo..If I'm not mistaken, I think I told him that he barely has any actual and/or original emo bands listed. He's leaving out so many of the actual ones and posting a list that is misinforming. I don't believe that I'm the smartest thing to have ever walked the planet when it comes to music, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who have read that list and believed it word for word because a moderator of 4 years posted it. I believe misinforming people is why the genres have become more generic and unoriginal than actual and original. I'm not trying to stir up and piss off a pot of people who have been here for a long time/years..because I'd love to converse with everyone on here, share opinions, etc etc..but I guess coming on to this thread knocked up my nerve because I'm constantly hearing people say they listen to screamo and then list bands like UnderOath, Dead Poetic, Emery, etc etc..I have no problem with those bands, but the genre screamo is not their style. And basically, that's sorta the point I was pointing out when I first posted..except it was in reference to emo bands and screamo bands..But anywho, I've read his post to me and I am going to compile a list for him in which I think seems fit, hell, you could even have a 'vote' from the people on here stating their opinions on if they think my list is credible or acceptable. I'm here to share my knowledge and opinions, just as you and everyone else is, and I'm sorry to have instigated something like this. My post was not meant to be taken in a bad way and I can see how some people could take it wrong, and for that, I appologize.

[RetiredAt21]

I like mediocrityXkills.

[mediocrityXkills]

System Of A Down are a different type of metal. One is metal, one's nu-metal.

Not to change the subject, but the other day while on myspace I noticed someone saying in the music forums that System of a Down should go grindcore...

I've never had a really good definition of grindcore other than the fact that most songs are really short and fast paced, etc etc. Judging by that, I could see some similarities in why they said that about System of a Down, but when it comes to song lengths, I don't. Either or..I don't like System of a Down regardless, I just wanted to know if you knew anything about it since this topic was sorta brought up.

[RetiredAt21]

There is nothing grind about SOAD.

[Electric Ocean]

I like mediocrityXkills.

123

I thought he might be a stubborn, elitist asshole, but his last post shows he obviously not.

[RetiredAt21]

I thought the same thing. But I like him.

[Electric Ocean]

Not to change the subject, but the other day while on myspace I noticed someone saying in the music forums that System of a Down should go grindcore...

I've never had a really good definition of grindcore other than the fact that most songs are really short and fast paced, etc etc. Judging by that, I could see some similarities in why they said that about System of a Down, but when it comes to song lengths, I don't. Either or..I don't like System of a Down regardless, I just wanted to know if you knew anything about it since this topic was sorta brought up.

This is a definition from another thread, read it and check out some of the bands listed.

Grindcore in its purest form consisted of short, apocalyptic blasts of noise played on standard heavy metal instrumentation (distorted guitar, bass, drums). Although grindcore wasn't just randomly improvised, it certainly didn't follow conventional structure, either; while riffs could sometimes be picked out, pure grindcore never featured verses, choruses, or even melodies. Grindcore vocals sounded torturous, ranging from high-pitched shrieks to low, throat-shredding growls and barks; although the lyrics were usually quite verbose, they were very rarely intelligible. Some bands in this catagory can also be known as Mathcore or Tech Metal, meaning they're more complex in the musical writings and tend to be more organized.

Grindcore bands:
Napalm Death, Dillinger Escape Plan, Carcass, The Locust, The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza, **** and Ball Torture, Pig Destroyer, Agoraphobic Nosebleed...

[mediocrityXkills]

Well, the only bands that I knew of in the genre that most would agree with are Napalm Death..which is I guess the most known for it? I love The Locust regardless of their terrible costumes..hah..The other day someone was arguing on a thread of mine on my group on myspace called 'screamo/hardcore/metalcore music!!!' about The Locust not being grindcore and he went into a huge discussion on it..etc etc and ended it with saying that the genre that comes closest to describing them would be Screamo..

but anyways, thanks for the post, I'll be sure and download some of the other bands' stuff. For the most part, do you think they'd all be in Soulseek?

[Electric Ocean]

Yeah you shouldn't have much trouble finding that stuff on Soulseek and yeah, I guess you could argue that The Locust aren't straight up grind in a Napalm Death sort of way, but they are pretty close and it's basically debatable like the "which bands are emo" argument that just went on.

[pixiesfanyo]

Man Icecream core is so lame in comparsion to Draculacore.

At least Nick and the middle eastern know how to play insturments.

Plus, Draculacore isn't from Ohio.

lolz, ohio.

[Wow]

That's why we liked icecreamxcore. It takes no effort whatever to play. If you ask people who have been there when we record it, we usually just improvise all of it.


But yeah it is lame. We got really tired of doing it. I don't know why we keep going.

[pixiesfanyo]

That's why we liked icecreamxcore. It takes no effort whatever to play. If you ask people who have been there when we record it, we usually just improvise all of it.


But yeah it is lame. We got really tired of doing it. I don't know why we keep going.

whuteva u say mr. ohio.

[DFelon204409]

I fail to see a lot of emotion from Saetia, actually. Sure there's exceptions (1:50 on Some Natures ftw) but yeah. And after watching live videos, I fail to see the emotion even more. It's more just like Billy has a voice that sounds sad but he isn't.


Artsy hardcore. Feel free to drop some knowledge bombs on me.


Edit: I wasn't saying ANYTHING against you, Dfelon. I don't give a **** if you bash icecreamxcore, hell I bash icecreamxcore. It's a stupid joke band but I have fun in it. All I said is that a lot of people don't know as much as some people think and that Trophy Scars shouldn't be on the list. I fail to see where it got personal.

I thought you thought it was personal. Haha.

Edit: The guy I'm biting in the picture is a) not Middle Eastern. He's indian. b) not in DRACULACORE. He is a mere victim of our TECHNICAL BRUTALITY.

*shreds*

*eats asshole*

Hey this thread sucks now I'm going to close it.

[DFelon204409]

Just kidding. How about Wow, and mediocrity make up their own list and email it to me. GaleriansX at aol.com. Don't organize it in this forum do it through AIM.

Trophy Scars is on there because they're a post-hardcore band that emulates emotional hardcore at times. There are a lot of similar elements and I frankly think they're better than any emo band, excepting maybe Circle Takes the Square. I think people coming to this thread deserve to hear them so I can just move them to the section with Blood Brothers, which I think does them a disservice. DISSSSSS. Yah.

But other than that this argument needs to end. You guys are all punks. I'm glad there's some fire in here though.

Also, I haven't checked that list. I don't even really like City of Catepillar so I just let Buddy and shane name them in whereever they see fit. I only have 5 songs of theirs so I figured I'd let the "experts" do it. Also, that was a year ago.

[Converge#12]

I just figured out that every singe song by The Locust only adds up to one hour of music. I'm not sure if this is completely true but it's somewhere around there.

[Wow]

Just kidding. How about Wow, and mediocrity make up their own list and email it to me. GaleriansX at aol.com. Don't organize it in this forum do it through AIM.

Trophy Scars is on there because they're a post-hardcore band that emulates emotional hardcore at times. There are a lot of similar elements and I frankly think they're better than any emo band, excepting maybe Circle Takes the Square. I think people coming to this thread deserve to hear them so I can just move them to the section with Blood Brothers, which I think does them a disservice. DISSSSSS. Yah.

But other than that this argument needs to end. You guys are all punks. I'm glad there's some fire in here though.

Also, I haven't checked that list. I don't even really like City of Catepillar so I just let Buddy and shane name them in whereever they see fit. I only have 5 songs of theirs so I figured I'd let the "experts" do it. Also, that was a year ago.



I'll work on a list myself and send it to you. I believe your aim is your forum name so I'll send it to you over that.

I agree, I prefer Trophy Scars over most emo (besides Rockets And Blue Lights. <3 midwest indie-ish emo) but just 'cause a band emulates Emotional Hardcore doesn't mean they are and should be on the list.

I'll work on the list now. Have it to you soon.

[used334]

i just listened to trophy scars for the first time and i agree with dfelon they have got enough of the emo element to qualify for the list...
thats just my opinion...
im not saying i dont want to see the new list if it doesnt make it on the thread will someone please email to me at
used334@hotmail.com
thanx

[DFelon204409]

Man you're not helping my case with that Atreyu avatar but thanks for the support anyway.

Why don't you just come back and read the list when it's done.

[xcbmetalcorex]

Dfelon, unban me for old times sake.

[mshort813]

When people come on here thinking Taking Back Sunday, Hawthorne Heights, etc. are emo/screamo, the list in this thread is a great starting point.

When you first learn about something, you don't learn everything about it extensively. You learn the general idea of it and then go back and refine your information. When people come on here, first they realize they have no clue what the hell emo is, then they look at the list. It gives them a good starting point and they can make their own decisions from there.

Point is, don't use the list and the definitive list/"be all, end all"/bible for emo, and don't say, "Why isn't this band on the list? What the hell? They're are so emo," or "Why is this band on it? They are not emo. They are post-hardcore."

Some genres overlap, and with some bands, you don't have to be too specific. Just listen to the music and make your own judgement. The list here is at least a good step-up from what most people think of emo. The vets here don't really need that list as a guideline anymore, so there really is no need to make such a big deal about it.

[DFelon204409]

I agree. I wanted to do make a legit list from the start. It was suitable for the needs of last year but I agree that overhauling it would be a good thing.

You are right though. More right than that mediocre dude. That is since I am the arbiter of the universe and all that.

[xcbmetalcorex]

Well, me and Wow just spent 30 minutes bickering over Saetia.

[DFelon204409]

Silence mendicant. Marduk desires not the barren wasteland of your desecated viscera. Cast off this taint and become taintless. Marduk is not for earthly goods and pleasures. I have complete cognizance of every synapse in my cerebral cortex.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Dude why did change your avatar? The old one was so much better....

[DFelon204409]

The real question is why did the server have to crash and garble my avatar?

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

The real question is why did the server have to crash and garble my avatar?
That sucks

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

When people come on here thinking Taking Back Sunday, Hawthorne Heights, etc. are emo/screamo, the list in this thread is a great starting point.

When you first learn about something, you don't learn everything about it extensively. You learn the general idea of it and then go back and refine your information. When people come on here, first they realize they have no clue what the hell emo is, then they look at the list. It gives them a good starting point and they can make their own decisions from there.

Point is, don't use the list and the definitive list/"be all, end all"/bible for emo, and don't say, "Why isn't this band on the list? What the hell? They're are so emo," or "Why is this band on it? They are not emo. They are post-hardcore."

Some genres overlap, and with some bands, you don't have to be too specific. Just listen to the music and make your own judgement. The list here is at least a good step-up from what most people think of emo. The vets here don't really need that list as a guideline anymore, so there really is no need to make such a big deal about it.
I agree with you 100%

[Wow]

The list we're doing lists every style of emo there is and gives good examples of bands from each style. It's a better one than what's listed now and will help people just as much if not more. I wanted to change it to correct all of the mistakes and Dfelon decided to go into detail about all the styles which I think is a GREAT idea. It's good times.


Sorry if I'm not making sense. Distracted.

[deadohiosky9]

The list we're doing lists every style of emo there is and gives good examples of bands from each style. It's a better one than what's listed now and will help people just as much if not more. I wanted to change it to correct all of the mistakes and Dfelon decided to go into detail about all the styles which I think is a GREAT idea. It's good times.


Sorry if I'm not making sense. Distracted.

It is a good idea. Its gonna be a good list.

[RetiredAt21]

It's a really good idea, and should clear up alot of the confusion with the different styles.

[xcbmetalcorex]

Make sure In/Humanity is on there under Emo Violence. :p

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Hahahaha

[xcbmetalcorex]

In/Humanity ****ing owns. So does Love Lost But Not Forgotten.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I know both are great bands.