Tool

[Syncratic]

I think it's just like the whole Systema Encephale fiasco.

[Spiritofmosa]

no,. not a joke

[Syncratic]

I dunno about that, dude.

Seeing as Blair never posts in red, even if it's regarding the new album, and his signoff doesn't appear at the end of the post, it's awfully odd.

[Shadius]

no,. not a joke

And how do you know this for sure?

[got tool?]

We can't really dismiss the fact that they are telling the truth, since they may be expecting us to think this is gonna be another Systema. But until the album comes out, i suggest that no one lose sleep over this. They're just track names.

[Syncratic]

The only thing that we (and the fake title-makers) have to go on regarding tracklistings is that there is a song title with the initials "L.K."

[Darkness]

L.K is not Lost Keys. :rolleyes:

[Reywas]

The new tracklist is awesome but fake.

[mudvayne420]

maybe some track names are true and some are false.....

[Reywas]

maybe it's a mystery

[Killtacular]

Now, where did I put that time machine?

[Reywas]

timemachines are overundered

woot new album title

March the 2nd

OVERUNDERED

BMB

[Killtacular]

Was that English?

[Reywas]

don't know

[bwnstl]

album cover? (http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=16255&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=260) or this one (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p22oy.jpg)?

Click on that link and scroll down. Near the end there's some guy with a picture of what supposedly might be the album cover.

If those truly are the album and/or single covers, it looks like Tool is taking a page out of Rob Sheridan's art direction.

[Moses]

I like the second one.

[BlindWriting]

Adam confirmed the album title/tracklisting.

http://www.toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=37682

Read the first post and scroll down for more info.

And I like the second album cover too. Definitely wouldn't mind if that turned out to be real.

[Werny]

I thought I read an interview saying that both Adam and Alex Grey are doing the art for this album. Neither of those covers are done by them, especially the second one.

Rosetta Stoned sounds like a Melvins song. Has to be a joke.

[Darkness]

I really don't like these names. :angry:

But if the musics good, I'll get over it.

[something erotic]

The 2nd cover just reeks of Radiohead.

[Otherside]

Agreed, first thing popped into my head when I saw that pic was Radiohead.


Godamn people on Toolshed are idiots. Reading some of the posts in that thread just fills the stereotypes of Tool fans being pretentious dicks with a theasarus.

"Omg guyz seriously u dont understand the pot might not be a great title but in context im sure it will be so cool and be lik completley deep or sumthing"

Whatever, The Pot is a ridiculous name that sounds like something out of a Britney Spears album. I don't really care if it's a great song, you can't justify such a crap name, ever.

[Darkness]

^ I agree. I still refuse to believe this is real.

[toolfreak]

[

Whatever, The Pot is a ridiculous name that sounds like something out of a Britney Spears album. I don't really care if it's a great song, you can't justify such a crap name, ever.[/QUOTE]

Smart man^^

[SmashingPumpkin]

Haha, I agree. I'm registered on Toolshed but never post. Partly due to the fact that most of the people there are complete idiots.

omG but in COnTeXt It WiLL B3 G00D OmGz

The only tracks on this "tracklist" that I think are terrible-sounding names are Rosetta Stoned, The Pot, and Lost Keys (Blame Hoffman)."

[ThePatient]

Jesus, they're track names... Track names. I don't know about you, but I haven't browsed through my cd cases lately to read the tracks on the back. But maybe I'm just strange like that.

[Spiritofmosa]

this (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p22oy.jpg) is awsome, does someone actually have the cd in his hands already?

[G_Mac07]

Looks like just the cover booklet to me.

[Otherside]

It just seems too much like

http://www.pinnix.net/blog/images/albums/okcomputer.jpg

or

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005QXXO.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Well, to me atleast. It seems to have a similair artstyle.

[Spiritofmosa]

It just seems too much like

http://www.pinnix.net/blog/images/albums/okcomputer.jpg

or

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005QXXO.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Well, to me atleast. It seems to have a similair artstyle.

hey i didn't know radiohead had such nice album covers

radiohead.com is interesting

[SmashingPumpkin]

this (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p22oy.jpg) is awsome, does someone actually have the cd in his hands already?
Could be.

[G_Mac07]

Fake (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10000in7ig.jpg)

And yet another. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/G_Mac07/10000_Days_Cover2.jpg)

And yes, that other one does seem to be highly influenced by Radioheads artwork.

[borisdablade]

^ I agree. I still refuse to believe this is real.

oh yeh because tool have never been off-the wall ironic in the past. :rolleyes:

New Album cover...http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7485/toolmeteora8jh.jpg.

[JamJar]

New Album cover...http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7485/toolmeteora8jh.jpg.

:lol:

I'm too psyched for the album now!

[toolfreak]

lol on toolshed someone emailed blair bout the artwork and he said thats all fake but tracklists are real...

[Shadius]

I agree with the Radiohead comparisons on that artwork, thats why I honestly think they're fake, Tool should be way more original.

Has everyone forgotten about that artwork that guy did for Tool site? Maybe the album artwork will be like that. With the organs turning into machines and such. Like the heart/axe thing I seem to remember. Overall it looked really organic/machinical, I really liked it. What ever happened to that?

Anyway, onto the tracks, based just on the names:

Vicarious - Sounds okay.

Jambi - A place in Indonesia? Seems fairly random.

Wings For Marie (Pt 1) - Pink Floyd ripoff part 1?

10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2) - Pink Floyd (Pt 2)

The Pot - The Grudge, the Patient, The Package, The Noose, The Outsider, The Hollow; only with a worse name?

Lipan Conjuring - Sounds okay, and to be honest, based on that one review of the album the guy said Maynard went all North American Indian for no reason; this could be the track.

Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) - Sounds terrible and stupid, amiright?

Rosetta Stoned - Sounds funny and really cheesy. Stone, stoned, lolz, lolz.

Intension - Sounds pretty bland.

Right In Two - I don't know, it dosn't sound very toolish somehow, but maybe it could be.

Viginti Tres - 23 in Spanish? Why Spanish? Sounds okay, I guess, otherwise.

Half the tracks sound okay... but just overall there are some really bad/cheesy/bland names there. A bit disappointing if this ever did turn out to be the real thing.

I can't wait to hear the music, regardless.

[Otherside]

23 in latin actually... spanish would be veintitrés

[Kage]

Is German not good enough for them anymore?

Dreiundzwanzig!

[Shadius]

Ah Latin, well, that makes it more Toolish, being a dead language and all.

[Kage]

:lol:

That track list is like the opposite of sex: When it's good, it's okay, but when it's not good, it's bad.

[Reywas]

The Pot will be the single

[JamJar]

The Pot will be the single

If so, good ol' controverisal Tool.

EDIT: And the 23 thing? It must be fake. Remember the fake listing of 'Aldaraia' had a song called 23.

[Reywas]

it's plausible

[Kage]

I'm surprised there isn't a song called Real Eyes Realize Real Lies.

[SmashingPumpkin]

I'm surprised there isn't a song called Real Eyes Realize Real Lies.
lawlz.

[omgwtfboogie]

Leave it to Tool fans to get upset over track names.

I'm guessing the 'Hofmann' mentioned in the LK title is the infamous person responsible for the invention of LSD.

Rosetta Stoned would obviously have something to do with a cryptic meaning.

The rest aren't as apparent right now.

[lucky luciano]

I was kinda hoping they would have some guest musicians on this album but I guess not.

[borisdablade]

:lol:

That track list is like the opposite of sex: When it's good, it's okay, but when it's not good, it's bad.

...how profound.

[SmashingPumpkin]

I was kinda hoping they would have some guest musicians on this album but I guess not.
I'm happy because there aren't any.

[Spiritofmosa]

i'm listening to maynard feat deftones in passenger

[mudvayne420]

hey guys i figured out something pretty intresting if you play lateralus, eon blue apocalypse, and faaip de oiad in order its cool. in like about 24 seconds in eon blue apocalypse, its sounds like the bass ending to lateralus and if you listen really closely in eon blue, in the end you'll hear like static then if you have like cool edit pro or adobe audition then just put in faaip de oiad when it sounds like something started is when eon ends. its cool, but i like the eon lateralus thing.

don't say a thing just give it a listen then tell me you don't hear the similarities, maybe these songs were meant to be together.

[lucky luciano]

I'm happy because there aren't any.
why is that?

[bwnstl]

Leave it to Tool fans to get upset over track names.

I'm guessing the 'Hofmann' mentioned in the LK title is the infamous person responsible for the invention of LSD.

Rosetta Stoned would obviously have something to do with a cryptic meaning.

The rest aren't as apparent right now.


Because Tool is SO cryptic, I mean, everything they do is all shrouded in mystery and OMG so intellectual.

[incubliss]

Because Tool is SO cryptic, I mean, everything they do is all shrouded in mystery and OMG so intellectual.

Well most of their song titles are cryptic and have no direct meaning. I think most people take pleasure in having another factor to the music. It's fun trying to find out what it all means.

[Reywas]

Love the avatar, who's the girl?

[Kurrpt]

if thats the REAL title and album art...


one word



GAY!

[Spiritofmosa]

dont respect tool for their symbology.. they r jsut a bunch of jokers.

[Kurrpt]

dont respect tool for their symbology.. they r jsut a bunch of jokers.

well, i saw a few un-related sites that confirmed that name. Ill be waiting for it none the less.


Idk man/guys. Im thinking TOoL have been de-throned from my number one spot :upset:

[Spiritofmosa]

if thats the REAL title and album art...


one word



GAY!

imagine how much more gay they would be if they change the album name to a better one due the pressure fomr their fans

[Kurrpt]

imagine how much more gay they would be if they change the album name to a better one due the pressure fomr their fans


actually, less...


If they were like


"hey, we FINALLY realized that this title sounds too much like Disturbed's 10,000 fists. Considering how much they suck, and we do not...


we changed the album name to.... "



C, better already

[Shadius]

I think a self titled would be cool. Maybe as Tool's last album though. There's something definitive and final about it.

[Spiritofmosa]

if the art's not printed yet.. they could change the title

[nowitzki]

I saw an interview with Mike Portnoy during the making of Octavarium, and he was saying how he is really careful not to release details such as album and track titles/lengths, or too much about the music at an early stage. At the time I didn't really see why this was a big deal, but the Tool business has made it perfectly clear. Fans read WAY too much into it, and its absolutely laughable how people are writing off the album, and seem disapointed without hearing a single second of music. After all thats all that really matters.

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet":smoke:

[Kurrpt]

ill still download a leaked version, or buy it the day of...



I just see my tastes have changed to something a bit more technical. Still top 10 none-the-less

[Shadius]

I saw an interview with Mike Portnoy during the making of Octavarium, and he was saying how he is really careful not to release details such as album and track titles/lengths, or too much about the music at an early stage. At the time I didn't really see why this was a big deal, but the Tool business has made it perfectly clear. Fans read WAY too much into it, and its absolutely laughable how people are writing off the album, and seem disapointed without hearing a single second of music. After all thats all that really matters.

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet":smoke:

No one with half a brain is commenting on the music though.

I know i'm certainly not commenting on the music, or how bad the album will be. Most of are displaying our disappointment if this is the real tracklist, and at how bad the track names are.

What's wrong with that? They're mostly bad track names. The music should be brilliant, but tracknames and album name are all part of the package.

[incubliss]

Well, apparently this is a sample someone ripped from a listening party.

http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1D2LCSWEZ9QFG1PUOVG1DEKIW6

[Shadius]

If that's true, it did sound like a rather sweet 11 seconds.

Industrial sounding, with a weird effect on the drums, I imagine? It could be part of the album, I suppose.

[Kurrpt]

the quality is kinda poop, but is interesting none the less

[Adam Jones is GOD]

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet":smoke:

Im suprised nobody said that earlier :p

[Kurrpt]

i tend to shy away from ancient anecdotes

[Shadius]

Haha, yeah, of course the track names are nowhere near as important as the music itself, but people have every right to complain about crappy track names. I mean, if I went into the store and picked up a Tool album called.. I don't know... "Suck on my Tool", or something, it'd be funny, but it takes away from the whole experience of some hopefully amazing, classic music.

[nowitzki]

:lol: Suck On My Tool, that would be awesome.

[Spiritofmosa]

Well, apparently this is a sample someone ripped from a listening party.

http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1D2LCSWEZ9QFG1PUOVG1DEKIW6

hmm heavy

[nowitzki]

I do personally think though, the name of a song/album makes absolutely no difference to my enjoyment of a piece of music. I mean, if Hooker with a penis wasn't already a song, and was on that tracklist, people would think that was a really stupid name. Which it is, yet is still an awesome song.

[incubliss]

^

No, you're right. But if the song name is cool, then an already cool song will be even better according to certain people. People do worry about the tracklist/album name. If there was a Tool song, that was officially called "Razorblade Love" then you'd probably have a lot of fans getting pretty pissed at such a stupid name.

Tool wouldn't ever name something that bad, but you can see where i'm going with it.

[Shadius]

I do personally think though, the name of a song/album makes absolutely no difference to my enjoyment of a piece of music. I mean, if Hooker with a penis wasn't already a song, and was on that tracklist, people would think that was a really stupid name. Which it is, yet is still an awesome song.

Hoooker With a Penis fits the song, and it's sarcastic, it's cynical, it's graphic/witty; it's Tool ten years ago.

Tool, since Lateralus seemed to mature a lot, and those new tracknames don't really reflect that completely, IMO. Rosetta Stoned and Lost Keys off the top of my head sounding dumb.

The music itself won't suffer for the tracknames, of course, and as I say, I'm not saying that, I'm just saying track names and album titles are part of the package, and we all have a right to comment on them.

Rosetta Stoned and Lost Keys just so arn't Tool. There's nothing dark about them, or graphic, or spiritual, or interesting.

[Danish]

That did sound pretty heavy, but Tool likes to play a really heavy intro/bridge and go soft for the rest of the song. It sounds good for a **** 11 second recording.

I'm pretty excited about this album, as I'm sure every other Tool fan is. I was looking for it on slsk but I couldn't find it.

[incubliss]

Rosetta Stoned and Lost Keys just so arn't Tool. There's nothing dark about them, or graphic, or spiritual, or interesting.

Do you know what they mean? No. So there's no point in commenting on them until you get a context.

That sample was really heavy, and i've just learnt to play Ticks & Leeches over the past couple of days, so i'm pretty excited by this. I'm in a 'heavy' for Tool mood. I'm sure they'll have a really fine mix of soft and hard, like you said. That's what completes the package for me.

[Det_Nosnip]

I just see my tastes have changed to something a bit more technical. Still top 10 none-the-less

What does that have to do with album/track titles?

[Kurrpt]

What does that have to do with album/track titles?


little or nothing actually :lol:

[Kage]

Let's please keep leaks and discussion of them out of this thread, folks.

[Kosmos Tree]

Hoooker With a Penis fits the song, and it's sarcastic, it's cynical, it's graphic/witty; it's Tool ten years ago.

We haven't heard the music yet, how do you know that all those titles will not fit with the music?

[Kurrpt]

Let's please keep leaks



you need to shut up about leaks...



REALLY

[mudvayne420]

its all ****ing around, just stop talking about the damn track/album title. It got old quick for me anyway, i ain't gonna believe **** anymore until i have the album cover in my hands and the cd in my cd player on play. as tool said in aenima "believe in nothing." but you could at least take a look for your own health. i posted this and everyone ignored it or they know or you just don't care about something important.


hey guys i figured out something pretty intresting if you play lateralus, eon blue apocalypse, and faaip de oiad in order its cool. in like about 24 seconds in eon blue apocalypse, its sounds like the bass ending to lateralus and if you listen really closely in eon blue, in the end you'll hear like static then if you have like cool edit pro or adobe audition then just put in faaip de oiad when it sounds like something started is when eon ends. its cool, but i like the eon lateralus thing.

don't say a thing just give it a listen then tell me you don't hear the similarities, maybe these songs were meant to be together.

[nowitzki]

i posted this and everyone ignored it or they know or you just don't care about something important.
http://deepu.eroding.com/board/index.php?showtopic=2185

[mudvayne420]

yeh i have read that millions of times and also tried it myself but just the transition from lateralus to eons means thats the end of the album actually. i son't know just ****ing try it and see for yourself....

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Let's please keep leaks and discussion of them out of this thread, folks.

123

(Havent done that for a while)

You really want to open your christmas present in November, discuss it via an IM, not spamming spoilers.

Anyway, now that we've had album information released, fake or not, I really wish there would be some sort of announcement over these missing UK shows. Download is good, but no sign of the 2 nights in London since they were taken down

Edit: My feelings on 11 second sample leaks are I will listen to them, 11 seconds out of 6 min+ dont give away a lot. My opinion on full song leaks remain the same

[Kurrpt]

if someone decides to put a link for a leak, dont click it. How fukking hard is that?


if you dont like the discussion, change the topic, or leave. Thats all I do

[H.w.P.]

Another short leak:
http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3KK79AJMLRNVC2KVBVV0XM6YMQ
sounds more like tool than the other snippet, in my opinion

[Moses]

Eh, I thought the first one was cooler.

[yeahyeah]

All of you pussies need to quit crying about the album name and track titles. Who cares what you deep 16 year old intellectuals think a song should be called? Tool doesn't. Cut off your fingers or keep crying on your keyboard, its all the same.

[Moses]

U r pussees lolzors1

[Kurrpt]

i just want leaks the day of. Some one give me a promise, or at least a false hope

[Esoteric_Creator]

I find the names fitting, and informative about how the band has progressed since Lateralus..

Now before I get flamed, let me explain. In the interview with Kerrang! Maynard and Danny said something that I have been feeling for awhile..
They talk about how since Lateralus they were trying to spread a message, but it never got through the thick heads of the masses. Lateralus was a progression from the "realization" of Aenima, where in Lateralus they wanted to share what they realized. Now imagine trying to share a thought, and everyone is so busy materialistically masturbating that they don't listen. After awhile you would want to tear their heads open and say, "F*ck you! I f*cking tried!"
This is the progression from Lateralus..

Sure, The Pot, Rosetta Stoned, and Lost Keys (Blame Hoffmann), Lipan Conjuring don't sound like anything impressive, yet they have an esoteric foundation. The manipulations to the names just mean that Tool has given them their own brand..

Vicarious, Jambi, Wings For Marie (Pt 1), and 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2) sound like a beginning to me. I have a reason for this thought, but the post is long enough as is already..

Intension, Right In Two, and Viginti Tres sounds like the final "F*ck you!" to me. Again, I have a reason, but people have short attention spans..

If these are fake, "Bravo". If not, "Interesting". Just stop comparing, and wait to masturbate to the music..

My two cents..

[omgwtfboogie]

Actually Esoteric Creator, I'd be very interesting in whatever else you have to say/you think. I've been thinking about this album conceptually the same as you are, but I hadn't gotten into the tracks yet..

[Darkness]

Yeah, leak discussion should be kept out of this thread...

[bwnstl]

I don't see how "Rosetta Stoned" is so un-Tool like. Do you know what a/the Rosetta Stone is? It was a stone that was found in Egypt that had Greek and Egyptian languages on it in 3 scripts, so it was a key to deciphering heiroglyphs. Now, already you have a Tool-ish concept of deciphering things and making hazy things clear. But, yes, of course, you have "stoned." Well......pull your head out of your ***; stoned refers to more things than just getting high. Being stoned used to be a death penalty or a way to make someone unconcious. Put the two together, and I think it has the potential for a very Tool-ish message.

[Esoteric_Creator]

These are the supposed tracklisting:

Vicarious
Jambi
Wings For Marie (Pt 1)
10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2)
The Pot
Lipan Conjuring
Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann)
Rosetta Stoned
Intension
Right In Two
Viginti Tres

*NOTE* These are my views. Interpretations will always vary, yet from what I have read from the boards here (and many others) this is what I have gathered and decided for myself.

In my mind they are broken into 3 "acts". Act one being: Vicarious, Jambi, Wings For Marie (Pt 1), and 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2). Act two being: The Pot, Lipan Conjuring, Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann), and Rosetta Stoned. Finally with act three being: Intension, Right In Two, and Viginti Tres..

Then we have 4 albums: Opiate, Undertow, Aenima, and Lateralus with each being a progression of the other. Opiate/Undertow being the anger and experimental stages of Tool. In these albums they explore what makes them, them through emotions and experimentations with drugs. Then you Aenima, where something was realized. As for what was realized is left to interpretation, yet through the lyrics it's plain to see a discovery was on it's horizons. And at the end you have Lateralus. This was the album were it seemed like the "realization" was at the "come to terms/understanding" stage, and they wished to share the experience. To take what is experienced and learn from it..

Yet! Nothing was heard in the minds of those who experienced. Nothing was learned, and things progressed only to get worse. (take it as you will: Iraq war, re-election of Bush, fundamentalist uprising since 9/11, mis-use/misleading/altering/lack of information, ignorance and hate with no found source, etc.) You want, and the world needs, change, yet people rather masturbate in place..

Then sets in the fustration, and the final need to just say, "F*ck you! I f*cking tried!" And now comes Ten Thousand Days..

This album I think will chronicle the entire process..

The first act dealing with the experimentation with terms like Vicarious (meaning: "experienced or realized through imaginative or sympathetic participation in the experience of another"), Jambi (closest reference is a province in India, yet! alot of Tool's "thoughts" come from eastern philosophy), and finally with WfM/10,000days (wings can be related to the merkaba, and 10,000days can be related to astrology. Again, a vibe of experimentation with different philosophies.)

The second act has deep roots in esoterica, and I think will chronicle the "realization". The Pot is open for meaning, yet to me is the acuminating knowledge. Lost Keys (blame Hoffmann) relates to the lost keys of enoch, and a connection to LSD as an enlightening substance. Lipan Conjuring is another that relates to lost knowledge being known through psychoactives used by shamans (i.e. Native-American, African, and any other ancient civilization shamans) Cryptology with Rosetta Stoned being turned into a verb to describe (maybe) what they learned. This act is the experience..

Finally, act three. The big **** YOU. Intension, which is self-explanatory. Right in Two. Now, I have heard a couple of theories about this one, but none to satisfy my interest. Maybe something in line of 42+2, 44+2, and 46+2 consciousness grids. And finally Viginti Tres (23), which is half of the human genome, and the final statement of fustration with leaving the world to find themselves with only being have human..

I am done..

[Shadius]

That second 'sample' sounded really cool.

I don't see what peoples problems are with people not liking the track names. Yes, we don't know the context of the names, we're taking them at face value at this stage, and some of them appear cheesy or bad. This may change when the music is also heard and/or other titles are revealed, obviously.

[Darkness]

That first sample kinda sounded like the intro to Stinkfist... obviously a different riff, but same idea.

[Kage]

you need to shut up about leaks...



REALLY
I'm really not sure where this came from.



But I'm asking everyone else to shut up about leaks. Don't bring it in this thread, there are many people who agree.

[Darkness]

That was a pretty stupid comment, Che...

Kage is right.

ALL LEAK DISCUSSION SHOULD NOT TAKE PLACE IN THIS THREAD TILL THE DAY OF THE ALBUM RELEASE, BY ORDER OF THE TOP POSTERS OF THE THREAD :cool:

[Werny]

*overanalyses*

You're writing up big essays on what the concept of the album is BEFORE WE CAN BE SURE THAT'S THE PROPER TRACKLIST. Anyone else see a flaw in that logic?

[deadinholywood]

yeah analysing an album based on what in all likeliness is a fake track listing (its Tool people, they lie and mislead) is fairly pointless, dont you have anything better to do.
I restate that i will not believe the tracklisting, album name, artwork or concept until i own the cd.
Prepares to flame Esoteric_Creator to high hell when the album does come out.

[omgwtfboogie]

Prepares to flame Esoteric_Creator to high hell when the album does come out.
Why should we do that? Because he actually brought some discussion to this thread? I thought he had some interesting ideas, regardless of how valid this tracklist is.

[yeahyeah]

WAIT FOR THE ALBUM. Quit smoking pipes and theorizing you silly cunts. In the meantime, you could be ****ing, watching american idol, or butt plugging yourself to the NCAA tournament that is about to kick your *** in four days.

[deadinholywood]

Why should we do that? Because he actually brought some discussion to this thread? I thought he had some interesting ideas, regardless of how valid this tracklist is.

You dont have to, i will, i simply doubt the validity of his analysis of an album that he hasn't heard. Can you write an acurate book review when you haven't read the book? Plus it seems to me he is just making metaphysical and esoteric references in an effort to look smart... There i said it.

[Otherside]

WAIT FOR THE ALBUM. Quit smoking pipes and theorizing you silly squirrels. In the meantime, you could be ****ing, watching american idol, or butt plugging yourself to the NCAA tournament that is about to kick your *** in four days.

You dont have to, i will, i simply doubt the validity of his analysis of an album that he hasn't heard. Can you write an acurate book review when you haven't read the book? Plus it seems to me he is just making metaphysical and esoteric references in an effort to look smart... There i said it.

Would you two gtfo pleze kay thanx cya

[Darkness]

WAIT FOR THE ALBUM. Quit smoking pipes and theorizing you silly squirrels. In the meantime, you could be ****ing, watching american idol, or butt plugging yourself to the NCAA tournament that is about to kick your *** in four days.
Get banned.

[Otherside]

Oh and the NCAA sucks this year because I can't make a bracket because there are too many potential upsets in every division.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I really am excited about the NCAA tourny...I'm especially glad that it'll help me ait for the Tool album.

[horseman]

Does anyone else get a fairly sharp Mars Volta feeling looking at the track names?

[Esoteric_Creator]

You're writing up big essays on what the concept of the album is BEFORE WE CAN BE SURE THAT'S THE PROPER TRACKLIST. Anyone else see a flaw in that logic?

Though, wouldn't your logic be flawed simply because your statement is not fact either..? Therefore, I hold a stand as much as you do..

yeah analysing an album based on what in all likeliness is a fake track listing (its Tool people, they lie and mislead) is fairly pointless, dont you have anything better to do.
I restate that i will not believe the tracklisting, album name, artwork or concept until i own the cd.
Prepares to flame Esoteric_Creator to high hell when the album does come out.

*prepares to flame you incase the titles are on the up-and-up*

Plus it seems to me he is just making metaphysical and esoteric references in an effort to look smart... There i said it.

Don't try to belittle me. You're just making yourself look dumb. I say only what I know. Nothing more. If that threatens you somehow I suggest you stop posting..

Would you two gtfo pleze kay thanx cya
Get banned.
Oh and the NCAA sucks this year because I can't make a bracket because there are too many potential upsets in every division.
I really am excited about the NCAA tourny...I'm especially glad that it'll help me ait for the Tool album.

PWN'ed!

[yeahyeah]

while we are revising stupid people. Stop using the phrase "pwned" geek lord. For the "Mars Volta" track listings. YOure still not obeying TOOL. Quit wondering and comparing you stupid jew. WAIT!

[I'm Charming]

while we are revising stupid people. Stop using the phrase "pwned" geek lord. For the "Mars Volta" track listings. YOure still not obeying TOOL. Quit wondering and comparing you stupid jew. WAIT!

Did you use your mind when you wrote that up?

Geek Lord? Are you five years old?

Pwn3d.

[borisdablade]

I don't see how "Rosetta Stoned" is so un-Tool like. Do you know what a/the Rosetta Stone is? It was a stone that was found in Egypt that had Greek and Egyptian languages on it in 3 scripts, so it was a key to deciphering heiroglyphs. Now, already you have a Tool-ish concept of deciphering things and making hazy things clear. But, yes, of course, you have "stoned." Well......pull your head out of your ***; stoned refers to more things than just getting high. Being stoned used to be a death penalty or a way to make someone unconcious. Put the two together, and I think it has the potential for a very Tool-ish message.

lol I love how some tool fans just HAVE to find an intricate meaning in everything the band does. You seem to be forgetting the many tracks they have done in the past that play on their own pretentiousness (the eggs of satan comes to mind :P) and are more comedic than profound. Dont readily assume that tool is trying to be mysterious and intellectual in everything they do, it just comes across that way because they have a VERY strange sense of humour.

[Reywas]

No Buddha For Mary Here it Comes, First thing that came to mind when I saw Wings For Mary which I think is an actually cool title. 10 000 days (Wings Pt.2) is the worst track name.

Also please stay the hell away from esoteric, if the guy had 10000 posts you would be sucking up. He is constructive and I liked his post and his logic is not flawed for making a THEORY.

[Otherside]

while we are revising stupid people. Stop using the phrase "pwned" geek lord. For the "Mars Volta" track listings. YOure still not obeying TOOL. Quit wondering and comparing you stupid jew. WAIT!

I didn't understand any of this post, gg

[beaNN]

Me either :\

[durkadurka]

im gonna continue theorising jsut to be a wankjob.

im pretty sure viginti tres is a biblical reference to a certain chapter most likely.

[SonorKen]

lol I love how some tool fans just HAVE to find an intricate meaning in everything the band does. You seem to be forgetting the many tracks they have done in the past that play on their own pretentiousness (the eggs of satan comes to mind :P) and are more comedic than profound. Dont readily assume that tool is trying to be mysterious and intellectual in everything they do, it just comes across that way because they have a VERY strange sense of humour.
Well said.


Sup Tool fans, havent been in the thread for MONTHS, any idea of a release date or any kind of tour schedules being tossed around?

[Kurrpt]

That was a pretty stupid comment, Che...

Kage is right.

ALL LEAK DISCUSSION SHOULD NOT TAKE PLACE IN THIS THREAD TILL THE DAY OF THE ALBUM RELEASE, BY ORDER OF THE TOP POSTERS OF THE THREAD :cool:



by order of the "top posters" ?!


where are they jerks so i can teach em a thing or 2. As far as "leak discussion" goes, you are aware that you could just NOT CLICK THE LINK.


I guess that thought never occured to you :lol:

[Reywas]

Illegal

[Kurrpt]

you could upload tracks separately in multiple posts. Thats allowed

[Adam Jones is GOD]

by order of the "top posters" ?!
where are they jerks so i can teach em a thing or 2.


:wave:

Obviously those that want to download any leak straight away wil also be the same people who can easily find them on other parts of the internet, so why bother posting them here when the majority object to it?

And not clicking links is easy, avoiding mass spoiler posts from those who feel the need to describe second by the second each track isnt.

So, no leak discussion please.

And welcome back to SFK. Check toolband.com for tour dates and possible release date

[clearvision]

Haha Ben this thread NEEDS leak discussion. To stop people bitching about metallica :). If you're all gonna hold out so be it...I'll mark my posts appropriatley so spoilers can be avoided.

Am I still considered a top poster?

[Kurrpt]

i agree


as long as people label it as a leak, i fail to see how that ill-ly affects anyone.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

/checks

Yeah, you're still near the top. And I trust you to mark posts with mass spoiler warnings anyway, and wont be one of those people who does a second by second walkthrough of a song.

I must be immune to Metallica bashing these days, I forgot there was any recently till I looked back.

[yeahyeah]

does anyone have the leak for dog fashion discos new album adultery? Leaks are good, someone find the leaks.

[incubliss]

Well said.


Sup Tool fans, havent been in the thread for MONTHS, any idea of a release date or any kind of tour schedules being tossed around?

Check toolband.com, the tour section has the updates.

All of the UK shows have been added to the tour section again, meaning I am definately going to at least one of them, even if it has to be Glasgow.

[Moses]

Cool, I'm top 6! We should start an inner-circle club.

[incubliss]

http://i2.tinypic.com/rh0ach.jpg
http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/8783/tool13mu.jpg

****ing amazing.

[Darkness]

http://i2.tinypic.com/rh0ach.jpg
http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/8783/tool13mu.jpg

****ing amazing.
Where the hell did you find those?! That's awesome. :lol:

[incubliss]

http://i2.tinypic.com/rh27ls.jpg

There's so many. It's all promo stuff, they were just pissing about.

[Esoteric_Creator]

This is great! :lol:

Tool has just completely taken what everyone thought about them, and took a nice steaming dump on it..
..while having a nice roasted wiener in the process..

:chug:

[Darkness]

http://i2.tinypic.com/rh27ls.jpg

There's so many. It's all promo stuff, they were just pissing about.
Where are you finding them though.

[Shadius]

Haha, those are awesome.

[borisdablade]

http://i2.tinypic.com/rh0ach.jpg
http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/8783/tool13mu.jpg

****ing amazing.

lmao...as i said VERY strange sense of humour.

[omgwtfboogie]

There they are crybabies! What are you gonna say,that isn't really TOOL and they are merely stunt doubles? Someone maybe photoshopped them from the AENIMA era into a backdrop of hollywood possibly? Maybe you will say "Oh they look like jocks cooking out before a football game! **** TOOL. Sellouts! They should be in a science labratory holding up alchemy vessels i suppose? blah.
LOL @ U

You're the type of person that would think rice silos are a government conspiracy.

[yeahyeah]

"omgwtfbaby", you are a moron. read it again and again you flabby jew.

[Shadius]

"omgwtfbaby", you are a moron. read it again and again you flabby jew.

Er... gtfo?

Where are those promo pics from, by the way?

[incubliss]

No-one knows, they were found on some German site today. Toolshed has all the news.

You guys should seriously read Toolshed, they find something new everyday.

[something erotic]

http://www.toolcollector.net/fake_artwork/


Cool.

[Moses]

http://www.toolcollector.net/fake_artwork/29.jpg

That's awesome as ****.

[Darkness]

http://www.toolcollector.net/fake_artwork/29.jpg

That's awesome as ****.
Yeah thats sweet. They should use that one..

[Otherside]

http://www.toolcollector.net/fake_artwork/10.jpg

I like that one the best, the other was blatantly made in Bryce 5 :\

[Shadius]

After looking at them all for a while, I don't really think any of them make good Tool album covers.

The tracklist on the one that Otherside mentioned is better than the one we have now though, IMO, even if it is really Mars Volta/nu-metal hybrid sounding.

Oddly though, that fully faked booklet one has a picture of a yellow sky in it. When I first heard the new Tool album would supposedly be called 10 000 days, I pictured a yellow sky with clouds in my minds eye. Freaky collective unconscious **** going on right there.

[lucky luciano]

who can tell me what the time signature is for schism? Does it change back and forth between riffs or what?

[omgwtfboogie]

"omgwtfbaby", you are a moron. read it again and again you flabby jew.
I suppose it would be hard to convey a sense of sarcasm or kidding over the internet..

[borisdablade]

I suppose it would be hard to convey a sense of sarcasm or kidding over the internet..

lmao @ "flabby jew"

[I'm Charming]

Well then how did you figure it out inspector gadget? Get flushed.

Get the **** off MX

[Kurrpt]

i dont know whats MORE annoying...


n00bs trashing this thread, or pseudo-elitists thinking they have any particular say in this thread

[SonorKen]

"omgwtfbaby", you are a moron. read it again and again you flabby jew.
Someone throw that Bob Marley wanna be mother ****er out of here......

[Kurrpt]

Someone throw that Bob Marley wanna be mother ****er out of here......



"there was an a$$hole in the part of the building here..... but we systematically removed him like you would any kind of termine or roach"



"YYYEEEEEEAAAAA!!!!"

[SonorKen]

Man, that guy screaming has to be one of the best live captures ever. Ya know that dude made a t-shirt, "I am the Cold and Ugly screamer".

[Adam Jones is GOD]

i dont know whats MORE annoying...


n00bs trashing this thread, or pseudo-elitists thinking they have any particular say in this thread

I think people with attitude problems wins.

So glad the UK dates are back up. Im guessing all UK'ers* will be at both?



*sorry Rob

[SonorKen]

Man, Im seriously considering flying over for one of the shows. Im gonna bunk up with AJIG, that cool with you?

[Kurrpt]

I think people with attitude problems wins.

So glad the UK dates are back up. Im guessing all UK'ers* will be at both?



*sorry Rob



i definitely wasnt referring to you man :thumb:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Man, Im seriously considering flying over for one of the shows. Im gonna bunk up with AJIG, that cool with you?

Heh, good luck, i've gotta travel half the country to get there myself. Thankfully I know people in London

[SonorKen]

What show would you guys reccomend hitting coming from the states?

Im thinking Hammersmith and do both nights.

[Shadius]

Seeing as I am am absolute nutter, I might go down for both UK dates (Might as well make the most of it, what with it being like a 6 hour or so car journey, right?). I should be able to get my girlfriend to go to at least one though I think, not sure about both.

I'm hoping for a more northern date... Milton Keynes, Manchester Arena? Somewhere in Nottingham? I don't know, wherever bands usually play up here.

[nightbringer]

Hey, you guys say the UK dates have been put back up, but I can only see the download date =/

[nowitzki]

Seeing as I am am absolute nutter, I might go down for both UK dates (Might as well make the most of it, what with it being like a 6 hour or so car journey, right?). I should be able to get my girlfriend to go to at least one though I think, not sure about both.

I'm hoping for a more northern date... Milton Keynes, Manchester Arena? Somewhere in Nottingham? I don't know, wherever bands usually play up here.
Download is very close to Nottingham ;) But yeah, I would definitely go to another date if there was one close by, its just that week is going to be pretty expensive with Download.
Hey, you guys say the UK dates have been put back up, but I can only see the download date =/
They are in the tour dates section of the site I think.

[Det_Nosnip]

while we are revising stupid people. Stop using the phrase "pwned" geek lord. For the "Mars Volta" track listings. YOure still not obeying TOOL. Quit wondering and comparing you stupid jew. WAIT!

I really don't like it when people use "Jew" as an insult.

[Kurrpt]

is your real name "Ted Pinson"

[Shadius]

Download is very close to Nottingham ;) But yeah, I would definitely go to another date if there was one close by, its just that week is going to be pretty expensive with Download.

They are in the tour dates section of the site I think.

Aye, Download is during my Uni exam time though. However, I'll have already done my two major subject exams by then, and only have my Criminology exam to do, with like a week of revision time for it. The Download date is during that week, so me and my girlfriend might be going, along with a couple of other Tool fans that I know.

[Kurrpt]

are you part Jewish? No?


I am. It doesnt bother me

[Shadius]

are you part Jewish? No?


I am. It doesnt bother me

Why should racism only affect people of ethnic minorities?

[Hellion462606]

Okay ****ers, stop your squabbling and answer me this. Has anything else heard anything about/from the new album? Is it really going to happen or are Maynard and the guys screwing with everyone?

[lucky luciano]

One great thing about Tool is that they are always changing and doing something different, taking that next step with every album. If the album name and track listings are true then why wouldn't people support that and be open minded about it instead of bitching about it not being "Toolish" or whatever. I actually hope now that they put out an upbeat happy acoustic album, because I know it would still kick *** and at the same time it would royally piss off all of their narrow minded pseudo-intellectual fans.

And to the guy above me I guess I don't undertand your question. Are you wondering if there is a new album at all? Yes, May 2nd it will be out, a collection of great dance songs, a couple ballads, and even a little pop-rock.:thumb:

[Kurrpt]

Why should racism only affect people of ethnic minorities?



it shouldnt affect anyone. Racial epitaphs shouldnt have the ability to offend anyone, that is, if you want to stomp out racism. If there are still words or phrases that are considered "taboo", that hardly solves the problem

[lucky luciano]

it shouldnt affect anyone. Racial epitaphs shouldnt have the ability to offend anyone, that is, if you want to stomp out racism. If there are still words or phrases that are considered "taboo", that hardly solves the problem:thumb:

Coudn't have said it bettter myself.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

are you part Jewish? No?


I am. It doesnt bother me

Part-Jews unite!

:chug:

[Esoteric_Creator]

I'm guessing there is still no word for a US tour, yet..?

If they don't come to Texas, so help me God, I will bash the face in of every Emo kid I see..! :evil:

Nah, I'd just give them monster wedgies and tell them to cry about that.. Yeah, that would be better..

I'm hispanic, does that count..? Colombian to be exact..

[Shadius]

it shouldnt affect anyone. Racial epitaphs shouldnt have the ability to offend anyone, that is, if you want to stomp out racism. If there are still words or phrases that are considered "taboo", that hardly solves the problem

Not that I disgree with you, but why should "Jew" be an insult at all?

Personally I think it's funny because it's ignorant, but you can tell there are people who laugh at that sort of stuff because they actually think being a Jew is a bad thing.

[clearvision]

I think people with attitude problems wins.

So glad the UK dates are back up. Im guessing all UK'ers* will be at both?



*sorry Rob

:(

When are tickets gonna go on sale. I think it's gonna be tough-ish to scrounge money to go. :(

[nightbringer]

They are in the tour dates section of the site I think.

Ah, thanks, I totally forgot that part of the site even existed lol

[Kurrpt]

Not that I disgree with you, but why should "Jew" be an insult at all?

Personally I think it's funny because it's ignorant, but you can tell there are people who laugh at that sort of stuff because they actually think being a Jew is a bad thing.


thats cool man...


i was just stating my belief, that to have a racist free society/world, statements like that shouldnt bother anyone is all

[incubliss]

I'm definately gonna try to both nights for Tool. It'll be absolutely amazing. Hotels in certain parts of London only cost 30 a night. It'll be an expensive trip in all though. £50 train ticket, aswell as £50 tickets (both nights).

I reckon tix will go for about £25.

[Otherside]

I'm hispanic, does that count..? Colombian to be exact..

Cool, I'm not the only one anymore then.

Although I'm Mexican :cool:

[Esoteric_Creator]

Hell yeah, Otherside!

Let's run amuk, and lay ruin to all who crosses our paths..! El Revolucion! WE shall rape their horses and ride off on their women!

...no,wait..

Still, those Emo kids better watch out.. :lol:

[Daven]

Cool, I'm not the only one anymore then.

Although I'm Mexican :cool:

Im also Hispanic man, Im Guatemalan.

[Sleeper]

I didn't know there were lots of hispanics here, I'm Puerto Rican.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

WE shall rape their horses and ride off on their women!

...no,wait..


:eek: :lol:

[Otherside]

Hell yah, now with our latino powers united, we shall take over mx, starting with R&M!!!




Well maybe if I wasn't as lazy as I am.Yes, that stereotype is true. So true.

[borisdablade]

Someone throw that Bob Marley wanna be mother ****er out of here......

lmao...been some funny calls in this thread, though its tool so we are assured a health mix of the rich and the ignorant :naughty:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Seeing as I am am absolute nutter, I might go down for both UK dates (Might as well make the most of it, what with it being like a 6 hour or so car journey, right?). I should be able to get my girlfriend to go to at least one though I think, not sure about both.

I'm hoping for a more northern date... Milton Keynes, Manchester Arena? Somewhere in Nottingham? I don't know, wherever bands usually play up here.

I was expecting them to play Manchester Arena, but 2 London dates is just as good. And Nottingham would have been a great pick, saved me travel time. But Rock City is too small a venue and I cant see them doing the Ice Arena.

Looks like the whole thread will be converging on London then :) Make sure (should I go into a coma or something) to post as soon as you guys see the tickets go up on sale

[incubliss]

http://toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=37880

There's a thread there, dedicated to updating info on tickets. Most other European places have their tickets already, and Isis are the support act on those stubs. Just make sure to keep an eye on that thread.

ALSO, I have an idea. For the people out there that have limited funds, I suggest the people who read this thread with the most money, buy an extra ticket. Then, people on here can have a chance of buying one at the normal price from them. I'm probably going to be buying an extra one just incase someone misses out. I hate it that people may have to buy on ebay. When I went to see Broken Social Scene in London Barfly back in November, original tickets were £8, I bought 2 on ebay for £62 for me and my friend. I don't want to see that happening again.

We're a good bunch of people, so try help a brother out. All i'm saying.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Good idea. I've got a bunch of people who I think would want to go, but probably wont make it, even when I get tickets. So im likely to be left with spares.

And Isis support.....it started as a dream, but its happening in reality now. Now if only my copy of Oceanic would turn up in the post

[incubliss]

Cool, make sure you keep them then and sell them on here. I doubt i'll be able to get the tickets in time at this rate.

An old CAD song I uploaded for you guys;

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2M0MSDFK951PV14GYE4YDFJQNO

...and an old CAD video featuring Maynard in lycra.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1771559290279971930&q=maynard

Gayest things ever.

[JamJar]

Hell yah, now with our latino powers united, we shall take over mx, starting with R&M!!!




Well maybe if I wasn't as lazy as I am.Yes, that stereotype is true. So true.

I'm a quater Spanish... can I join?

I am so psyched for the new album and am startung to believe the album title and track listing more and more.

[Esoteric_Creator]

I want to believe the titles and tracks, but I'm leaving myself open for any "surprises". Who knows, right..? This *is* Tool we're dealing with..

Last night my mom received her new issue of Rolling Stones. IMO, I hate the f*cking magazine. It's on the same level in my mind as MTV. Yet, I was on the toliet with nothing to read (i'm a guy. what do you expect?), so I was paging through. Either way, they had section for spring releases and reviews. They had a freakin' spot for G&R Chinese Democracy, and yet made Tool and freakin' footnote..! The bastards..
Either way, they are still listing the new album title as TBA, but for a May 2nd release.
According to Blair, Tool did an interview with Revolver (which i'm subscribed to) and should be in their April issue. Here's to good information..

And yeah, we hispanic can be lazy, but I fall in the more procrastinating portion of our race.. To each his own.. *shrugs*

:chug:

[Daven]

Hell yah, now with our latino powers united, we shall take over mx, starting with R&M!!!




Well maybe if I wasn't as lazy as I am.Yes, that stereotype is true. So true.


We just need to beat the thousands of Americans in here and R&M will be ours. :rolleyes:

[Otherside]

Actually I would think they're more Europeans in R&M than Americans(in terms of regulars). Well, maybe not, but there isn't a large margin between the two I woud guess.

[Daven]

Actually I would think they're more Europeans in R&M than Americans(in terms of regulars). Well, maybe not, but there isn't a large margin between the two I woud guess.

I think there are more..... hmmmm americans. Anyways, there are less hispanics than anything, I think.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Last night my mom received her new issue of Rolling Stones. IMO, I hate the f*cking magazine. It's on the same level in my mind as MTV. Yet, I was on the toliet with nothing to read (i'm a guy. what do you expect?), so I was paging through. Either way, they had section for spring releases and reviews. They had a freakin' spot for G&R Chinese Democracy, and yet made Tool and freakin' footnote..! The bastards..
Either way, they are still listing the new album title as TBA, but for a May 2nd release.



Well, to be honest, the last Tool album came out 5 years ago. The last Guns N' Roses album came out like 12 years ago. That's really the only reason why. Besides, Rolling Stone Magazine is very bad often. For example, they called Weezer's Pinkerton album the worst album of the year when it came out. Mainly, they were just following a stupid trend of bashing the album. They now call it one of the best albums of that year (I believe '96) and it is widely considered to be Weezer's best album (or 2nd best to their first album). They said St. Anger had riffs that brought Metallica back to the days of ...and justice for all. I'll stop before I get into how they bashed almost all Zeppelin and Floyd albums when they originally came out.

[Chu]

Well, to be honest, the last Tool album came out 5 years ago. The last Guns N' Roses album came out like 12 years ago. That's really the only reason why. Besides, Rolling Stone Magazine is very bad often. For example, they called Weezer's Pinkerton album the worst album of the year when it came out. Mainly, they were just following a stupid trend of bashing the album. They now call it one of the best albums of that year (I believe '96) and it is widely considered to be Weezer's best album (or 2nd best to their first album). They said St. Anger had riffs that brought Metallica back to the days of ...and justice for all. I'll stop before I get into how they bashed almost all Zeppelin and Floyd albums when they originally came out.
But St. Anger did have very good riffs, although they were over-used... At least imo...

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

But they don't sound like riffs from AJFA. That's the point.

[Chu]

I don't really like ...AJFA all that much, I guess maybe if there was more bass I wouldn't mind it.. But I actually prefer St. Anger as a whole to ...AJFA.

[Darkness]

AJFA slays all other Metallica for me... but lets stop the damn Metallica discussion in the Tool thread, please.

[Stringbreaker]

Hell yah, now with our latino powers united, we shall take over mx, starting with R&M!!!




Well maybe if I wasn't as lazy as I am.Yes, that stereotype is true. So true.
My mom had an affair with a mexican guy, so that means I can join right.

[You'rEuLoGy]

Hey I'm half mexican but my last name is french... so... Goddammit i guess i'm out, i guess this goodbye b/c of my goddamn french, man i wanted to be a part of something too.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

They took the London dates down again ><

[purgatory]

Actually I would think they're more Europeans in R&M than Americans(in terms of regulars). Well, maybe not, but there isn't a large margin between the two I woud guess.

From my short term of posting here in R&M i have noticed that most people are in fact European. I have only come across few Americans.

[incubliss]

They took the London dates down again ><

I'm blaming you. If they do it again, well i'll just have to order the hitman.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

http://toolshed.down.net/pix/10k_promo/07.jpg

Oh Justin, I trusted you to have non fanyboy tastes.

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

Originaly posted by Adam Jones is GOD
http://toolshed.down.net/pix/10k_promo/07.jpg

Oh Justin, I trusted you to have non fanyboy tastes.


Yeah looks like he's a football fan!!! Oh Justin you used to be cool:upset:

Ah no You're stil cool, the fact that you like football is negligable due to the fact that you are one quarter of TOOL!!!:thumb:

[Darkness]

Uh, I think that link just died...

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

Uh, I think that link just died...

Go to toolshed.down.net/pix
and go to band, then 10,000 days promo and pic 07.

[sgrevs]

Didn't work for me...?

Is he wearing a football jersey or something?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Worse than that, he's wearing a Chelsea shirt. Least he's still 100% Brit though

[incubliss]

Yeah, a Chelsea top. Does anyone not even think that he's been a fan all his life? I mean, Chelsea have only just started getting good in the past 2 years.

I'd hardly call a fan of there's a 'glory hunter'. That's Man Utd fans and you know it.

[Spiritofmosa]

yay i adam accepted the add to my new myspace account

[Det_Nosnip]

Those are some wacky pics. What are they trying to pull, now?

[borisdablade]

But St. Anger did have very good riffs, although they were over-used... At least imo...

0-3-5 0-3-5
0-3-5 0-3-5
0-3-5 0-3-5 etc.

The thing i like about it is it hasnt been done to death by every nu-metal band in the world :rolleyes:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Yeah, a Chelsea top. Does anyone not even think that he's been a fan all his life? I mean, Chelsea have only just started getting good in the past 2 years.

I'd hardly call a fan of there's a 'glory hunter'. That's Man Utd fans and you know it.

Speaking as a Forest fan, anyone who supports a club that wins consistently is a glory supporter :p

[Slipknotmxr24]

sorry if anyone thinks im spamming this thread or w/e, but im trying to learn alot of the techniques used by adam jones, mainly in the album Aenima. i have a les paul, marshall amp (soon to have a mesa dual rec also) i have my guitar in drop D tuning, i use alot of delay,rakes,slides,etc. to get his effects, but what scales does he use in the songs???

I was thinking maybe natural minor, but im not too familer with it yet. ive been doing minor pentatonics since forever, and since adams solos have sort of a gloomy,sad feeling, im guessing its the minor scale. any help is much appreciated.

[Reywas]

I was thinking what sounds good is what he uses.

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

sorry if anyone thinks im spamming this thread or w/e, but im trying to learn alot of the techniques used by adam jones, mainly in the album Aenima. i have a les paul, marshall amp (soon to have a mesa dual rec also) i have my guitar in drop D tuning, i use alot of delay,rakes,slides,etc. to get his effects, but what scales does he use in the songs???


I was thinking maybe natural minor, but im not too familer with it yet. ive been doing minor pentatonics since forever, and since adams solos have sort of a gloomy,sad feeling, im guessing its the minor scale. any help is much appreciated.



Here you go


Adam Jones Interview

The best guitar parts I write come from noodling. I'll sit at home watching TV with a guitar in my hands, and just start playing a riff over and over. It's weird. A lot of the stuff I do comes from blues scales.

There you go!!!

[Moses]

I can't write music like that. I always sit down and figure it out. Of course it starts off as improvisation but then I have to build around it with progression and such. I can't really watch TV at the piano either.

Actually Adam Jones doesn't really use alot of blues stuff. Mostly D dorian. Solo-wise maybe blues but whatever.

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

I can't write music like that. I always sit down and figure it out. Of course it starts off as improvisation but then I have to build around it with progression and such. I can't really watch TV at the piano either.

Actually Adam Jones doesn't really use alot of blues stuff. Mostly D dorian. Solo-wise maybe blues but whatever.

Actually he does. He said so him self in an interview with Marshall.:naughty:
:naughty: :naughty: :naughty:

[Rounder]

I can't write music like that. I always sit down and figure it out. Of course it starts off as improvisation but then I have to build around it with progression and such. I can't really watch TV at the piano either.

Actually Adam Jones doesn't really use alot of blues stuff. Mostly D dorian. Solo-wise maybe blues but whatever.


he does use the pentatonic minor scale alot with his soloing, but he doesn't really use D dorian alot. Riff wise, its mostly D minor and D phrygian. D dorian has that raised 6th, which gives it that major feel, not something often found in Tool music.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

sorry if anyone thinks im spamming this thread or w/e, but im trying to learn alot of the techniques used by adam jones, mainly in the album Aenima. i have a les paul, marshall amp (soon to have a mesa dual rec also) i have my guitar in drop D tuning, i use alot of delay,rakes,slides,etc. to get his effects, but what scales does he use in the songs???

I was thinking maybe natural minor, but im not too familer with it yet. ive been doing minor pentatonics since forever, and since adams solos have sort of a gloomy,sad feeling, im guessing its the minor scale. any help is much appreciated.

Do something original instead of trying to mimick every aspect of a guitarist's playing.

[Moses]

Hey Jake, I have that Finale stuff you'd like for me to upload it. It does tabs too but I still prefer notation. I HATE TABS!!!

[Darkness]

Do something original instead of trying to mimick every aspect of a guitarist's playing.
And who might you be? :p

[Moses]

he does use the pentatonic minor scale alot with his soloing, but he doesn't really use D dorian alot. Riff wise, its mostly D minor and D phrygian. D dorian has that raised 6th, which gives it that major feel, not something often found in Tool music.

Lots of his riffs are D dorian. Most of Aenima and Undertow is anyway. I guess it depends on what era we're talking about.

[Turbojugend]

I'll be seeing Tool live this July, I'm expecting them to play a lot of new material.

[Slipknotmxr24]

Do something original instead of trying to mimick every aspect of a guitarist's playing.
i said learning techniques, not trying to walk and talk like him. besides, if can take bits and peices from 20 of the most influencual guitarists, i think that would translate into my own style and help me learn alot more about the instrument itself.

thx for the input though guys.

[misunderstood]

Well, there's a new logo up at the official Tool site along with some album artwork. The artwork isn't bad, at least I don't think so, but I'm not sure what I think of the logo. Anyway, anyone seen the new promo pics that are floating around the net? They're quite humorous..They're not like other Tool promo pics that have been released in the past.

by the way, is anyone else but me having problems with this site?

[Trintar_VIII]

^^ Yeah, I'm having problems too...the pages are taking way to long to load or not loading at all.

The artwork looks fairly good as well.

[Kage]

The new logo is kind of gay, but I like the artwork. Enigmatic, yet not over-the-top. Cool stuff.

[Darkness]

That logo is kind of gay. I like the one on the splash page better, they shoulda used that. The artwork is cool though.

[Det_Nosnip]

The new logo is kind of gay, but I like the artwork. Enigmatic, yet not over-the-top. Cool stuff.

123. I still hate the album title, though.

[Darkness]

123. I still hate the album title, though.
Yeah, me to. I'm still having trouble believing thats the name...

[Otherside]

I love how the new logo says "fool" instead of "tool".

[Killtacular]

The logo's alright. The album art, on the other hand, kicks ***.
I love how the new logo says "fool" instead of "tool".
Hmm... so it does. A clue, perhaps?

[TOOL2SAGE]

First time here. Does anyone have an idea on Tools set at Coachella. Is it worth the trip from Chicago?

[Darkness]

No idea what the set is, but I'm sure it'll be more then worth it.

[bwnstl]

The logo's alright. The album art, on the other hand, kicks ***.

Hmm... so it does. A clue, perhaps?

OMFG, not EVERYTHING that Tool does is a clue to some goddamned mystic puzzle that transcends time, jesus CHRIST

[Darkness]

OMFG, not EVERYTHING that Tool does is a clue to some goddamned mystic puzzle that transcends time, jesus CHRIST
You get jokes.

[Kage]

OMFG, not EVERYTHING that Tool does is a clue to some goddamned mystic puzzle that transcends time, jesus CHRIST
Dude, look who said that. It's our man Scruples for Chrissakes.

[Otherside]

OMFG, not EVERYTHING that Tool does is a clue to some goddamned mystic puzzle that transcends time, jesus CHRIST

Or is it?

[Shadius]

OMFG, not EVERYTHING that Tool does is a clue to some goddamned mystic puzzle that transcends time, jesus CHRIST

None believers. *shakes head*

Edit: My main concern with that new (IMO fake) artwork, is that it's pretty much the background picture they used on the Lateralus tour, just darker looking. Tool havn't been a band to reuse imagery, and they've sure had a lot, I don't see why they'd start now.

[Slipknotmxr24]

well its gata be tough to be band for a decade and still have the imagination and creativity like before. once you reach the top, the only place to go is back down. screw the artwork though, im only interested in the songs.

[misunderstood]

This is an almost exact copy of a piece that was created by Alex Grey a few years back.
http://healinggifts.net/alexgrey.jpg
I thought the band would actually take a different approach on the artwork for this album...just cause this still seems very Lateralus-ish. Then again, they're working with Grey again and all his works are very similar so I can't expect it to be extremely different.

[horseman]

Maybe the whole tool saying fool thing was a clue that it wasn't a real logo? Or is that what most people here were getting at...Ah well, can't hurt quoting the obvious can it?

[Spiritofmosa]

the album art is blanddd...

[UpperDecker]

So i supposedly downloaded the first song off the new cd. It sounds alot like tool but there are no vocals and its only 2 minutes n something and its supposed to be like 7.

[Shadius]

It's probably the Doom 3 theme tune, dude.

[misunderstood]

Is anyone in here a member of ToolArmy? I was considering joining pretty much for pre-sales (not that we have any US dates yet) and well they have some neat stuff that comes along with the packages, but I was just wondering if the membership is a yearly thing you have to sign up for? I thought I read somewhere that once you're a member, you're pretty much in for the long run..just trying to confirm this, I guess...anyone know? If we do only have to pay once then that's awesome and worth it, I think. Most fanclubs or anything else for that matter charges yearly.

[Esoteric_Creator]

Truthfully, I think the art is fitting..

Sure, it's Alex Gray again, but it really helps with the overall tone of the CD that we have been getting news on. The blue hues of the painting, the off center look, and a feeling of the image itself melting..

Though, I'm starting to rethink my original theory of the albums theme. With the art and the logo finally up it shines a new light to where the album is going. But who knows..?