Tool

[clearvision]

10000 days in the aiiiiir.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Oh dear, MJK is gonna sound like a monkey.

[Prince of Darkness]

I really hope that news about the name is crap.
The name sucks. Tool should know that. I thought they were intelligent. NOT DISTURBED FANS!!!

/cries while listening to Undertow

[Kage]

Who the hell thought that was a good idea?


That's the gayest *** name I've ever heard.

[BassMasterMike88]

Who the hell thought that was a good idea?


That's the gayest *** name I've ever heard.

I doubt that would be the album name, how many of these rumors do you think are true? Also I think Tool could come up with a more creative and mystical name then that.

[o_0tool]

I bet its fake but could possible be the new album title. It is kind of a dissapointing title but if the music is good, who gives a ****. :chug:

[Kage]

I doubt that would be the album name, how many of these rumors do you think are true? Also I think Tool could come up with a more creative and mystical name then that.
I don't believe it, but there's some weight behind this rumor because it came from an official source.

[Prince of Darkness]

Blair may be toying with us, but we won't know until another rumor or the release of the album.

10 000 days <----Look at that, It's gay

Let's look at the Discography

Tool - Opiate
Tool - Undertow
Tool - Aenima
Tool - Salival
Tool - Lateralus
Tool - 10 000 days

...

[Kage]

:lol: Man, that soils their discography.

[Prince of Darkness]

Tell me about it!
I actually liked Aladraia, or the S/T rumors. They were at least Tool-ish

10 000 days spoiled my evening

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

...and Blair calls the Enochian title a bad hoax? 10,000 Days is 10,000x weaker (hi-yo!)

But seriously, that is some weak sh!t.

Oh yes, and I haven't listened to Tool in what seems like months.

[o_0tool]

I think the self titled album would be a good title if this was there last album.

[Prince of Darkness]

If the 10 000 days title(oooohhh, that IS bad...) is legit, then the album is S/T for me. NO ONE will use 10 000 days in my presence...

[mudvayne420]

maybe thats what the title is called but in a different language, i thought this was the tool group. Or maybe hes playin with your minds again

[Prince of Darkness]

Does anyone have a Danny Carey Drum solo, except for the 1:50 one?

[Rothmans]

It obviously wont be 10,000 day's remember Lateralus?

No one knew the name of the album until the day it was released please people use your head's.

But if it was 10,000 day's I couldnt care I want to hear the album not read the title...

[lucky luciano]

Wow, I sure hope this is a joke cause we all know if they give it a name thats not "mystical", then I guess it's not intelligent and their music will suck.:p

[Jerzzzey]

10,000 days seems a tad lame but im sure if thats the title theres a good reason for it.

[lucky luciano]

yup

[o_0tool]

I wonder what the concept of this album will be???

[mudvayne420]

its coming soon people.....the end of our wait is coming near.......just breathe, relax..........and pop in some good music to pass the time.

[Prince of Darkness]

We've waited 5 years.
The wait is nearly over.
So who's gonna download it before buying it?
Not me

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

blair is probably just jerkin our chains

I don't think the title sucks, I just don't think it's very good. Plus, the Disturbed similarity is annoying.

[JamJar]

We've waited 5 years.
The wait is nearly over.
So who's gonna download it before buying it?
Not me

Definitely not. I can proudly say that I've never ever downloaded a leak. :)

[misunderstood]

Hmm...I'm not sure I truly believe that's the final offical album title. It seems very..uncreative? I dont know but anyway, I was over at the Tool site earlier and I noticed that the update wasn't signed off by Blair. He didn't leave his little 'BMB' trademark. I don't know if that means anything or not but I just thought that was a bit strange seeing as how he signs off all the time. Maybe that's just telling us that the title isn't offiicial or he'll later claim that he didn't write that so there was no reason for believing it. Who knows.

And I won't be downloading any leaks either! I've waited so long for this album, I can wait just a little longer to have the entire thing in my hands!

[Kurrpt]

anyone that believes that triple is GULLIBLE :lol:


if i CAN download it, i definitely will

[Moses]

Maybe it's for a concept... It does sound pretty retarded otherwise.

[Esoteric_Creator]

10,000 days..

Holy sh*t..

Someone add up the days a see where it lands from the release date. It might have some sort of relation to something..? At least for the titles sake, I hope so.. lol.

Either way, it doesn't really matter much. A title is just a title. Who would have thought that something titled Aenima would have been good..? I'll make a judgement once I get my greasy hands on the album..

[Kurrpt]

someone makes up some BS, and you guys talk about it for days. Uncanny

[Moses]

That's the gayest *** name I've ever heard.
Hah, never seen you post anything like this. :p

[Kurrpt]

he must've known i was coming back :lol:

[got tool?]

In the end, its probably gonna end up being a one word album title that may or may not be creative and cool-sounding, since thats pretty much how their titles have been since Ænima

Ænima...Salival...Lateralus...________

Aldaria sounded kinda cool...but as of now its BS

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

someone makes up some BS, and you guys talk about it for days. Uncanny

What are you talking about?

[Darkness]

If anyone believed this, you're an idiot. It is NOT the album title. Tool may like to joke, but now when it comes down to music.

[got tool?]

If anyone believed this, you're an idiot. It is NOT the album title. Tool may like to joke, but now when it comes down to music.

Amen

[omgwtfboogie]

I'm going to die laughing when it actually is the album title.

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

If anyone would care to look at toolband.com they will see that the 10,000 days post has been taken down. Joke title???!!!

[Darkness]

If anyone would care to look at toolband.com they will see that the 10,000 days post has been taken down. Joke title???!!!
Wow, you're right... I was just there 20 min ago, and it was still up. Maybe it is the real one, and they weren't suppost to post that! :rolleyes:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

It was probably a joke.

[omgwtfboogie]

I'm confused at this point, but I'm leaning towards it being a joke.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Blair must be chuckling to himself over some of the reactions to it. Anythin he posts seems to become gospel truth in most Tool fans minds straight away.

And I wont be downloading anything unless:

1. US release date is before UK by a week or more (should be same time for both this time :angry:)

2. I suddenly become totally broke and its released

[Spiritofmosa]

**** could there be less jokes and fake rumors.. i dont see whats so fun about it

[Darkness]

Really? I think it's pretty funny when a bunch of fans are like "OMG 10,000 DAYS THAT NAME SUCKS TOOLS BEING DUMB!!"

[Spiritofmosa]

i wasnt surprised that the album was called that. i thought tool was taking a new approach to their music or something

[mudvayne420]

i don't think its real. they would've came up with just a simple creative word to go with at least. 10,000 days sounds nu-metalish to me and tool doing nu-metal....scary.

[clearvision]

Oh dear, MJK is gonna sound like a monkey.

Wahahaha ohh ohh ohh wahahaha. I can hear it now.

Lolz i hate the way everyone is screwing about this. I'm not bothered if it's 10,000 days or not. The 4 band members are noway gonna produce a disturbed rip-off or anything. It's still gonna be tool, and if they've dropped all this mystic sh!t they used to involve in their songs, so be it. IT will still be good music.

[Prince of Darkness]

http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3U1NSO5XLT7TC1LGCI6U59EPB9

HAVE YOU SEEN THIS?

MJK fights with a fan that came on stage during Push!t.

Very Funny. MJK looks like his having fun

[nowitzki]

^That video is awesome, its on Google video as well. MJK has trained in Brazillian Jui-Jitsu under Rickson Gracie (who is one of the top guys in martial arts), and he shows he has skills there.

[Prince of Darkness]

But is he having fun with the guy, or is he seriously fighting with him?

[nowitzki]

I think he just got him into a hold so that the guy was helpless and couldn't move, I don't think he was trying to seriously hurt him. Its great how he carries on with the song, I can't imagine anyone else doing something like that.

[Prince of Darkness]

He doesn't only carry on with the song, he sings it perfectly even though he's rolling on the floor. Great stuff!

[Biancazzurri]

Ticks and Leeches
what a song!!!!

[Syncratic]

10,000 Days?

I haven't been online in a few days, enlighten me.

[Darkness]

10,000 Days?

I haven't been online in a few days, enlighten me.
It's a joke.

[Syncratic]

Umm....where did it come from?

[Prince of Darkness]

Umm....where did it come from?


It was posted on Toolband by Blair yesterday(I think) and well, he said that 10 000 days will be the title of the new album. and well, everyone freaked out, but later that day, Blair removed that post on Toolband.

I can't stand Blair.

[Syncratic]

10,000 Days= play on Disturbed's 10,000 Fists?

Last year's April Fool's prank = play on Head from Korn finding religion?

Haha, oh, Tool, you pranksters!

[Prince of Darkness]

Tool are really scaring me. During recording time, they tend to fuk around a lot. Delaying a release. oh look. We waited 5 years for this new album.
later on there will be decade gaps between albums

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

10,000 Days may or may not be a joke. It is on Toolarmy as an exclusive, just like Blair said the album name would be.

[Syncratic]

I just read Blair's Aladraia post on toolband.com.....

Blues TOOL?

I'm scared.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Deep down inside, you know that no matter what the album sounds like, it's going to rock your eardrums off.

[Prince of Darkness]

Imagine the album sucks...like 'St Anger' sucks...

[lucky luciano]

:p It would be pretty damn hard to top St. Anger. That is one ****TY album

[Prince of Darkness]

I'm just pointing out that even Tool can make a bad record.

[Biancazzurri]

Tool are really scaring me. During recording time, they tend to fuk around a lot. Delaying a release. oh look. We waited 5 years for this new album.
later on there will be decade gaps between albums
you and all the people that think like you:
yes its frustrating to wait 5 years but you ought to stop ****ing around and talking about it because tool dont owe you anything, right? and if they want they won't release the album at all... so stfu.

[Prince of Darkness]

you and all the people that think like you:
yes its frustrating to wait 5 years but you ought to stop ****ing around and talking about it because tool dont owe you anything, right? and if they want they won't release the album at all... so stfu.

make me asshole

[strat]

make me asshole

Boourns.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I just read Blair's Aladraia post on toolband.com.....

Blues TOOL?

I'm scared.

Why does that scare you? It would make sense for Tool to add blues elements to an already atmospheric band.

[borisdablade]

Imagine the album sucks...like 'St Anger' sucks...

Dont even think that let alone say it out loud.

[Darkness]

Why does that scare you? It would make sense for Tool to add blues elements to an already atmospheric band.
He's talking about the lyrics, he said they're angry and stuff, so he jokeingly said "this our blues record, were singing the blues".

[Det_Nosnip]

No. He meant that the entire record is going to be composed of variations on the 12-bar blues played in odd time signatures. ;)

[Darkness]

No. He meant that the entire record is going to be composed of variations on the 12-bar blues played in odd time signatures. ;)
That'd be tight.

[Rounder]

I'm just pointing out that even Tool can make a bad record.

Anyone can make a bad record. Tool could, although so far they're 5 for 5 (hey salival was great, even if not a full LP.) so i have high hopes.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I like St. Anger, so I guess I'll be in luck if Tool pulls a St. Anger.

\:D/

[Darkness]

Yeah, St. Anger was actually pretty good!

[Moses]

St. Anger is horrible, I can't put it on and not grind my teeth. Anyway, here's my other band whom I drum for...


http://www.myspace.com/handmedownheroes

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Regular Metallica : St. Anger :: Tool : A Perfect Circle

[Moses]

I still don't like it. I thought it just sounded really bad and the musicianship was horrible.

[Darkness]

:lol: The only song I kind of enjoyed was Frantic, just because I like the main riff. But I'd take And Justice over it any day.

[Killtacular]

I can safely say that St. Anger is the worst album I've ever heard.

Justice isn't too much better. Cmon, let's be honest. It's boring.

[Moses]

I like Master of Puppets best. The title track is just great.

[Darkness]

It's boring.
No you are. :p

I liked Justice a lot back in the day, songs like Blackened, One, To Live is to Die, Dyers Eve are all great songs IMO.

[Killtacular]

Too bad Master of Puppets is better.

Ride the Lightning, contrary to popular belief, is not better than MoP.

[Darkness]

Ride the Lightning, contrary to popular belief, is not better than MoP.
I agree with this. MoP has some good songs to.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Lateralus> MoP+RtL+AJFA-St. Anger+S/T

Relavency++

[Darkness]

Lateralus> MoP+RtL+AJFA-St. Anger+S/T

Relavency++
This is also true. :chug:

[Killtacular]

Nope. MoP owns Lateralus.

That's right, I said it.

[Darkness]

Nope. MoP owns Lateralus.

That's right, I said it.
Get lost. :smash:

[BlindWriting]

Metallica, aside from a few songs, kind of bore me.

[Moses]

Nope. MoP owns Lateralus.

That's right, I said it.
MoP is good but I wouldn't say it's all that special.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

The only song I really like off of MoP is indeed the title track. :p I started learning it once, then i got bored.*



*owned

[Darkness]

Can't down pick those simple little riffs Jake? :p

I think Batterys the best on that cd..

[Futuro]

I like Orion alot. (Sup solo?)

[Killtacular]

It's all about the title track, kiddies.

[Futuro]

It's all about the title track, kiddies.
Yeah Aenima is great! :p

[Killtacular]

You mean Ænema?

[Det_Nosnip]

No, I think he means Lateralus.

And, as far as MOP goes, it's all about Disposable Heroes. :cool:

[Moses]

Did anyone check out my 2nd band up there at the top of the page?

[Huber]

Well, Tool says their angry again.

Who hopes Maynard does the awesome deep stuff like on Undertow again?

[Spiritofmosa]

TOOL > metallica



*prepares flame shield*

[Reywas]

Guns'N'Roses > tool
Buckethead > APC

prepares flame0zord shield

[JamJar]

TOOL > metallica



*prepares flame shield*

Quoted for truth.

My favourite 'Tallica songs are the instrumentals. Hetfield has a horrible voice.
You gotta dig the bass in Orion.

Guns'N'Roses > tool
Buckethead > APC

prepares flame0zord shield

You wa?

[Reywas]

Guys check out Memento, the singer sounds like a cross-bread of tool - apc singer. And both are bald and mysterious.

[toolfreak]

I was kinda hoping tool would sorta continue down lateralus but if its like aenima im still cool with it

[Spiritofmosa]

Guns'N'Roses > tool
Buckethead > APC

prepares flame0zord shield
prepares gigantica FLAMETHROWER

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I still don't like it. I thought it just sounded really bad and the musicianship was horrible.

Why don't you go back to listening to Limp Bizkit's "Everything" then? That was a huge hit in this thread.

[Rothmans]

Guys check out Memento, the singer sounds like a cross-bread of tool - apc singer. And both are bald and mysterious.


Are you retarded?

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I was kinda hoping tool would sorta continue down lateralus but if its like aenima im still cool with it

I think it'll be different from the rest that they've done. It's better if they don't repeat themselves anyway, right?

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

OK lets get back to TOOL here. Kabir took down his post on toolshed.down.net saying that Blair took down the post about 10,000 days. Now it just says

Earlier today, toolband.com posted that the new album's art is finished and being released to the printers today. They also announced the name of the new album: "10,000 Days". [Posted by Chris] §

Several readers have also noted that Jake Daniels, a radio DJ for KATT in Oklahoma City, has announced April 17 as the day the first single will be released to radio. [Posted by Chris] §

As apposed to

Earlier today, toolband.com posted that the new album's art is finished and being released to the printers today. They also announced the name of the new album: "10,000 Days". [Posted by Chris] §

Later in the day the post with the name 10,000 days was taken down, we still don't know why, was it released too early or a prank or what? [kabir] *

Several readers have also noted that Jake Daniels, a radio DJ for KATT in Oklahoma City, has announced April 17 as the day the first single will be released to radio. [Posted by Chris] §

(* This is not an entirely accurate quote, it is from memory)

What does this mean, did the band tell kabir to take down that post as some part of their wierd joke or did they tell him to take it down because 10,000 days really is the title, or did he just take it down because it wasn't relevent or something?

[repcak]

anything new in the world of tool?!

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

the new album, dude

[Blizzink]

St. Anger is horrible, I can't put it on and not grind my teeth. Anyway, here's my other band whom I drum for...


http://www.myspace.com/handmedownheroes

I'm not sure if I have the ability to get to the MSHA showcase. Mostly because I'm lazy and sick.

[repcak]

the new album, dude
is it released?

[Moses]

Why don't you go back to listening to Limp Bizkit's "Everything" then? That was a huge hit in this thread.
That was like last year.

By the way Limp Bizkit does have good musicianship, just a very annoying frontman.

[repcak]

i haven't been around much in the tool thread recently ... therefore i'm not up to date

[Det_Nosnip]

10,000 Days is obviously a joke referencing how ****ING long it is taking for them to release the record.

My favourite 'Tallica songs are the instrumentals. Hetfield has a horrible voice.


He does, but I actually like alot of the vocal melodies that he came up with (past tense, of course...St Anger proved that he can't write anymore).

[Otherside]

I can honestly say that I cannot listen to Metallica under virtually any circumstance. They arn't heavy, the guitar parts are not good, Lars is awful, they mix the bass out of the songs, and james is a pretty stupid guy. Plus the whole Napster deal was retarded.


But back on topic: Tool would never release a CD called 10,000 days. k.

[Kage]

I can honestly say that I cannot listen to Metallica under virtually any circumstance. They arn't heavy, the guitar parts are not good, Lars is awful, they mix the bass out of the songs, and james is a pretty stupid guy. Plus the whole Napster deal was retarded.


But back on topic: Tool would never release a CD called 10,000 days. k.
Agreed 100% with the entire post.

[Prince of Darkness]

But back on topic: Tool would never release a CD called 10,000 days. k.

Of course. But if they do....:eek:...shocking

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

That was like last year.

By the way Limp Bizkit does have good musicianship, just a very annoying frontman.

That song blows

[Reywas]

Are you retarded?

no, how about you?

[clearvision]

The unnamed feeling is a great song. The rest of the album was pants, apart from maybe sweet amber.

Limp bizkit have some great songs, and i have never paid attention to Durst so couldn't give a sh!t if he's a twat or not.

Where the f'uck have the london gigs gone?

[Killtacular]

Master of Puppets is the stuff. That's about all I listen to from Metallica nowadays though, if anything at all.

I've been away from Tool for quite some time, as well. That'll all change once the new album cracks my head open.

[Moses]

Agreed 100% with the entire post.
I knew that was coming.

[Kage]

I knew that was coming.
Any time I get the chance to express my hatred for Metallica, I have to take it.

[toolfreak]

I think it'll be different from the rest that they've done. It's better if they don't repeat themselves anyway, right?

Yeah lol cant help but be nervous though :p

[Flynn]

I can honestly say that I cannot listen to Metallica under virtually any circumstance. They arn't heavy, the guitar parts are not good, Lars is awful, they mix the bass out of the songs, and james is a pretty stupid guy. Plus the whole Napster deal was retarded.

:lol: :lol:

[Killtacular]

What ever happened to my little Danish friend?

[Moses]

Any time I get the chance to express my hatred for Metallica, I have to take it.
Yeah Metallica and SOAD are two bands that I know you loathe, and I think TMV too. I like SOAD and TMV though, and I like Master of Puppets from Metallica.

[Darkness]

I don't like SOAD or TMV either, thumbs up Kage. :)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Shoot, I like all three of those bands. :p

[Futuro]

I like TMV, Big fan of Frances the Mute. One of my all time favorite albums.

[Huber]

I can honestly say that I cannot listen to Metallica under virtually any circumstance. They arn't heavy, the guitar parts are not good, Lars is awful, they mix the bass out of the songs, and james is a pretty stupid guy. Plus the whole Napster deal was retarded.


But back on topic: Tool would never release a CD called 10,000 days. k.

Sorry, but I have to defend my 'Tallica.

They aren't heavy? I don't even see how you can justify that. Same goes for the guitar parts. Metallica have written some great guitar parts.

Lars is awful however. 100% agreed. Same with the bass thing.

I don't think James is stupid at all, and I'd like to hear why you think so.

The Napster thing may have gotten out of hand, but the whole thing wasn't retarded. The MI:2 single I Disappear was leaked onto Napster and Metallica couldn't stand that people had already heard it before the premier. So they sued. I can understand hating album leaks.

[I'm Charming]

Sorry, but I have to defend my 'Tallica.

They aren't heavy? I don't even see how you can justify that. Same goes for the guitar parts. Metallica have written some great guitar parts.

Lars is awful however. 100% agreed. Same with the bass thing.

I don't think James is stupid at all, and I'd like to hear why you think so.

The Napster thing may have gotten out of hand, but the whole thing wasn't retarded. The MI:2 single I Disappear was leaked onto Napster and Metallica couldn't stand that people had already heard it before the premier. So they sued. I can understand hating album leaks.

I love album leaks. Yarr. I don't buy anything.

I agree with the guy you replied to.

I don't think Metallica's guitar work is anywhere near great. I could play it after 6 months of playing guitar, just fine. It's simple. Very simple.
They just come across as money hungry jerks. Most bands would prefer their music be bought, not downloaded. However most don't throw a fit like a five year old and sue. :p

Tool related:
Anyone know what the new album will be like? I'm not much of a fan anymore but I'll give it a listen for sure...See where they have gone with their sound.

[Rounder]

Sorry, but I have to defend my 'Tallica.

They aren't heavy? I don't even see how you can justify that. Same goes for the guitar parts. Metallica have written some great guitar parts.

Lars is awful however. 100% agreed. Same with the bass thing.

I don't think James is stupid at all, and I'd like to hear why you think so.

The Napster thing may have gotten out of hand, but the whole thing wasn't retarded. The MI:2 single I Disappear was leaked onto Napster and Metallica couldn't stand that people had already heard it before the premier. So they sued. I can understand hating album leaks.


that is why I hate metallica. I grew up on them, in fact, for my 14th bday i got Justice, the justice Tab book, my first guitar (series 10 v) and a gorilla amp. So they were there from the beginning. But I can't stand them now. They were my fist concert ever, and I loved playing their music. After black though, they became famous and really big douches, At least Lars did, and everyone else fell in line. There is something so UNMETAL about sueing people. They have lost my respect forever.

[Kosmos Tree]

Is the Tool thread or a Metallica bashing thread?

Anyway, Metallica is one of the most influential Metal bands ever, Kill'em all was an extreme record when it was released and Puppets was groundbreaking.

You can like them or not, it's personal preference anyway, but they are one of the most important bands of the last 20 years, noone can deny that.

Tool related:

The message of 10.000 days is online again, so it's probably the real album name

[Futuro]

http://www.10000-days.com/

Heh a fan site already.

[Otherside]

Sorry, but I have to defend my 'Tallica.

They aren't heavy? I don't even see how you can justify that. Same goes for the guitar parts. Metallica have written some great guitar parts.

Lars is awful however. 100% agreed. Same with the bass thing.

I don't think James is stupid at all, and I'd like to hear why you think so.

The Napster thing may have gotten out of hand, but the whole thing wasn't retarded. The MI:2 single I Disappear was leaked onto Napster and Metallica couldn't stand that people had already heard it before the premier. So they sued. I can understand hating album leaks.


Listen to Necrophagist or Wormed and then tell me Metallica are "heavy". If I was interested in guitars(which I'm really not), then I would listen to John Petrucci or Joe Satriani, both of which can run Kirk and James around in circles on a guitar.

James wrote a song about suicide after having his equipment stolen.


'Nuff said.



The Napster deal was ridiculous. Lars was in it for the money, and he shows it without restraint by suing fans that completely supported them and had bought all the previous albums, and just wanted to hear the single of their new cd early. But I guess Lars doesn't care about his fans.
-----------------------------


So let's talk about them Academy Awards!
I'm glad Brokeback didn't win, but I was sincerly hoping Goodnight and Goodluck would have one :(

Oh well I guess beggars can't be choosers.


Edit: Oh and TMV are great, for the record.

[Kurrpt]

I'm not sure if I have the ability to get to the MSHA showcase. Mostly because I'm lazy and sick.



i love your avatar :D


as far as Metallica "sucking", they are extremely influential. Regardless if you like THEIR music, you like music that was influenced by them

[Otherside]

i love your avatar :D


as far as Metallica "sucking", they are extremely influential. Regardless if you like THEIR music, you like music that was influenced by them

Except that Iron Maiden were about 500 times more influential.


And actually I seriously doubt Metallica influenced any band I listen too, if anything I guess you could claim Opeth, but even then...

[Kurrpt]

i think thats a fairly nieve approach to the matter. Regardless of the fact that i barely like their music, I can respect them for what they are worth.


I think when you start going into pseudo-political issues with bands, you are taking it a little too far.

[Shadius]

Yeah Metallica and SOAD are two bands that I know you loathe, and I think TMV too. I like SOAD and TMV though, and I like Master of Puppets from Metallica.

Metallica have a handful of good songs that i've heard. I quite like Nothing Else Matters, One and For Whom the Bell Tolls, Am I Evil, too. Fade to Black is half decent, and I thought their cover of Whiskey in a Jar was good. Oh, and the song Master of Puppets is a classic, if a little long. Overall though, I've given a few of their albums chances, and find them a little bit boring if the truth be told. I might give some more of their stuff a chance later on.

SOAD... I used to like when I was like 15/16 and sort of grew out of. I've been meaning to get their new albums though, i've heard bits and pieces that interested me.

TMV are an amazing band. I love Deloused, bar Drunkenship of the Lanterns, which oddly does little for me, even being a drummer. Frances the Mute, i've come to the conclusion, has some of their best songs, and worst. The first 4 tracks are absolutely amazing, bar the "ambience". After that point I feel it sort of goes into wank city a little, and the songs become too free form and lose a lot of melody/structure for me, it all becomes a bit too messy overall.

As for the new Tool album title? It's a fake. I mean... I've thought about it, but it's just a joke in the vein of Maynard finding God. 10,000 days, 10,000 fists? Taking 10,000 days to release an album? I mean, come on. I just won't believe it til the album's in my hands.

[nowitzki]

Like Metallica or not, you can't deny they played a big part in bringing metal to the mainstream, hence introducing millions of fans to the genre. Pretty much any metal fan you meet will tell you that they liked and listened to Metallica at some point in time, even if they don't listen to them now. That alone makes them influential.

[Kurrpt]

For me Soad peaked, and died with toxicity. I rather think 95% of the music afterwards is pretty bunk.


Its really hard for me to get into TMV tbh

[Otherside]

i think thats a fairly nieve approach to the matter. Regardless of the fact that i barely like their music, I can respect them for what they are worth.


I think when you start going into pseudo-political issues with bands, you are taking it a little too far.

Well that's your opinion I guess, I just don't see the logic in awarding them with some kind of profound influence, when in reality only a few current bands can claim a direct relationship to them.

And I don't know what you're talking about with the second line, so I won't comment I guess.

[Kurrpt]

Well that's your opinion I guess, I just don't see the logic in awarding them with some kind of profound influence, when in reality only a few current bands can claim a direct relationship to them.

And I don't know what you're talking about with the second line, so I won't comment I guess.

i was talking about the whole Napster thing really...


I personally dont agree with it, bt not listening to a band for some BS like that really misses the mark imo. Refuse to listen because you dislike the music, not for their stance on a particular issue. Obviously this doesnt apply to your stance, im saying generally speaking

[Shadius]

i was talking about the whole Napster thing really...


I personally dont agree with it, bt not listening to a band for some BS like that really misses the mark imo. Refuse to listen because you dislike the music, not for their stance on a particular issue. Obviously this doesnt apply to your stance, im saying generally speaking

Why is it off the mark? I wouldn't listen to a band that was overtly racist, for example. I might say the music was decent, but I still wouldn't listen to them.

Anyway, Metallica's music isn't that amazing to begin with, for the most part. Other bands write better songs, Metallica don't have to be liked by everyone who's into metal. I know i've never been really into them.

[Kurrpt]

i think bands and polotics shouldnt mix, hence my belief

[Huber]

Listen to Necrophagist or Wormed and then tell me Metallica are "heavy". If I was interested in guitars(which I'm really not), then I would listen to John Petrucci or Joe Satriani, both of which can run Kirk and James around in circles on a guitar.


Saying another band is heavier, or another guitarist is better to say one isn't heavy at all or good at all is a terrible argument. It doesn't prove anything.

[Shadius]

i think bands and polotics shouldnt mix, hence my belief

So you would willing listen to a hypothetical band that supported rape, murder, racism, etc. and support them by buying their CD's or showing up to shows, even if the music was "good".

[Kurrpt]

So you would willing listen to a hypothetical band that supported rape, murder, racism, etc. and support them by buying their CD's or showing up to shows, even if the music was "good".



if i liked their music, i wouldnt care about that other, superfluous sh!t. Im not saying id have em over for tea

[Huber]

So you would willing listen to a hypothetical band that supported rape, murder, racism, etc. and support them by buying their CD's or showing up to shows, even if the music was "good".

Everyone in the world can stop supporting them, and I bet the band would still think that way.

[Kurrpt]

thats like saying i can't listen to Michael Jackson's music, even tho he inappropriately touched little boys. I can respect the music, and abhor the man

[JamJar]

TMV are an amazing band. I love Deloused, bar Drunkenship of the Lanterns.

Drunkship is one of if not my favourite on Deloused.

I've never really properly liked Metallica. I bought And Justice, kept me entertained for a few weeks but it doesn't have a re-listen value which something like Lateralus does.

[Otherside]

Saying another band is heavier, or another guitarist is better to say one isn't heavy at all or good at all is a terrible argument. It doesn't prove anything.

What? If something sets a paradigm, a standard that I believe to be the definition of heavy, and another band doesn't meet it, then, by the standards of the other band, they are not heavy. It's not a hard string of logic to follow :\


thats like saying i can't listen to Michael Jackson's music, even tho he inappropriately touched little boys. I can respect the music, and abhor the man

But then again MJ has never been found guilty and only actually prosecuted a few times, and a case has never had any real evidence to speak of.

Metallica on the other hand openly sued their own loyal fans for money. That's just straight bullshit.

If a band has severe views that I don't agree with, I don't generally listen to them. Probably why I don't enjoy old-school punk as much as my other friends do.

[Moses]

TMV are an amazing band. I love Deloused, bar Drunkenship of the Lanterns, which oddly does little for me, even being a drummer. Frances the Mute, i've come to the conclusion, has some of their best songs, and worst. The first 4 tracks are absolutely amazing, bar the "ambience". After that point I feel it sort of goes into wank city a little, and the songs become too free form and lose a lot of melody/structure for me, it all becomes a bit too messy overall.
Drunkenship of the Lanterns is what caught my ear immediately, especially for the drumming. It's got alot of good latin jazz stuff in there.

[Esoteric_Creator]

Metallica, Michael Jackson, and TMV. Three things I wouldn't expect to read about on a Tool Forum. To each his own..

Ah! I actually checked out that fans 10,000 Days website, and he actually had an interesting article there. I haven't seen the article here yet so here we go..

Taken from Sound Rock Magazine:
DEEPER THAN EVER
New Tool Album to Push Things Even Further Forward

Prog-metal pioneers Tool are gearing up to make their long-awaited return with their fourth full studio album, which is tentatively titled “Ten Thousand Days”. Due for release via Sony BMG on May 1, the 11 tracks featured represent the first new material to come from the LA quartet since 2001’s now legendary ‘Lateralus’, and herald a heavier direction for the band. Although the album was self-produced, Tool enlisted the recording know-how of Joe Baresi (Queens of the Stone Age, Melvins) to aid them, and have confirmed track titles including “Rosetta Stoned”, “Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann)” and “Ten Thousand Days”.

Speaking to Rock Sound, bassist Justin Chancellor explained that Baresi was instrumental in helping the band achieve a new level of sonic power; “Because he’s such a guitar-minded person, he really helped us achieve something we haven’t been able to up to now in terms of our sound. At first it was a bit of a trip when we first started to mix it. We had to get our head around doing it in a different way. But we quickly understood why Joe was doing what he was doing, and how it was helping us get better. It’s not just an overload of guitars though – he’s given each instrument its own space to exist and I think that gives the album an overall depth that was missing from the last one.”

Meanwhile, frontman Maynard James Keenan was unapologetic about the band’s long absence: “Clearly if I hadn’t been away with A Perfect Circle, it would have come out sooner, but it’s a complex record that needed time to come together and to solidify. I didn’t want to subject Tool to that pressure that a lot of bands put on themselves to get an album out quickly to keep everyone interested. For a band that makes the kind of music we do, it’s never going to be beneficial.”

Given Keenan’s pre-Tool career as an American solider, the album inevitably features a lyrical preoccupation with the much-debated intervention of Western forces in Iraq and the subsequent fallout, but the vocalist insisted that the new album will not see Tool climbing on to a political soapbox.

“There’s not very much use for sloganeering when dealing with something as complicated as this, so there’s no question about the album being simplified in the way that bands like Green Day have (done things). I’ve tried to employ a more emotional, cerebral element to the things I’ve seen in recent times and the idea of that is to initiate thought rather than aimlessly waving a fist. The other thing that I feel is important is to state how we are all indicted by this situation. There’s no way any of us can distance ourselves from what’s happening and there’s definitely no exoneration for people who chose not to look at it or think about it.”

The band have been confirmed as one of the headlining acts for this year’s Download Festival, and will play a London date around the same time.

[Syncratic]

Sooooooooooooo........

10,000 Days is official?

[Kage]

Don't believe anything until you've got the record in your hands.

[Syncratic]

I'm inclined to believe Blair in this instance, seeing as he is closer to the band than anybody.

He could just be screwing around with us, which is plausible.

[Rothmans]

I think it is 10'00 days now.

I really do but then again I could be wrong.


JUST BRING OUT THE ALBUM.

[Darkness]

Don't believe anything until you've got the record in your hands.
Yep.

[Moses]

Those song names sound fake too. Rossetta Stoned? Lost Keys? wtf!

[Syncratic]

It's just like Systema Enchepale, people.

[Det_Nosnip]

Those song names sound fake too. Rossetta Stoned? Lost Keys? wtf!

Yeah, that's what I thought. *sigh* I really wish that the members of Tool would stop getting such sadistic pleasure out of ****ing with everybody. :lol:

[misunderstood]

^Heh, yeah, no kidding.

[Otherside]

So guys, album title is out, its Tool - Hybrid Idea.

No seriously, it's on Toolband, go check.

[BlindWriting]

So guys, album title is out, its Tool - Hybrid Idea.

No seriously, it's on Toolband, go check.
Hah, yeah.

Come on, guys. I mean. 10,000 Days? Rosetta Stoned? I doubt it. This may just be Systema Encephylae Part Deux. Just wait for the friggin' album!

[misunderstood]

I was going through some Tool thread on another forum and I found an interesting post someone put up. This guy thinks that today's birthday post might be indirectly telling us that it's all a lie/joke.

"As per our (lengthy) conversation last night, without mentioning the actual name (and certainly not the correct time), having checked out a certain website*, I should tell you that I’ve been thinking about this for hours and still have not reached a decision (although I now have a clearer understanding of the situation and therefore shouldn’t ‘panic’ when it comes time to speak up)."

*referring to the newly created fansite, 10,000-days.com

I don't know. He (like many others) might just be over analyzing this but I thought it was worth a mention anyway.

[Kage]

Actually--and everyone in this thread should know I'm not an overanalyzer--that's how I interpreted that post as well. It's not like I studied it and read in between the lines, but that's just how I initially read it.

Interesting.

[Killtacular]

I refuse to believe Tool would release an album with a title so crappy.

Friggin' hippies.

[Darkness]

Hybrid Idea? Ahem, I recall a certain rap metal/nu-metal record with a similar title...

[Futuro]

Hybrid Idea? Ahem, I recall a certain rap metal/nu-metal record with a similar title... Linkin Park or Limp Bizkit right? It has GOT to be a joke. All these titles suck.

[Darkness]

Linkin Park or Limp Bizkit right? It has GOT to be a joke.
Linkin Park. "Hybrid Theory"..

[Spiritofmosa]

hahahahahahaha

[borisdablade]

Listen to Necrophagist or Wormed and then tell me Metallica are "heavy". If I was interested in guitars(which I'm really not), then I would listen to John Petrucci or Joe Satriani, both of which can run Kirk and James around in circles on a guitar.

James wrote a song about suicide after having his equipment stolen.


'Nuff said.



The Napster deal was ridiculous. Lars was in it for the money, and he shows it without restraint by suing fans that completely supported them and had bought all the previous albums, and just wanted to hear the single of their new cd early. But I guess Lars doesn't care about his fans.
-----------------------------


So let's talk about them Academy Awards!
I'm glad Brokeback didn't win, but I was sincerly hoping Goodnight and Goodluck would have one :(

Oh well I guess beggars can't be choosers.


Edit: Oh and TMV are great, for the record.

Metallica - 1)DT respect them enough to have dedicated an entire live set to the faithful reproduction of master of puppets.
2)If you judge works on their technical proficiency alone then you have completely missed the point of music.
3)Ok, Lars is a jerk...he loves money...are you trying to tell me that he is the only rock star alive that has those character traits?

OSCARS

Crash did not deserve best picture, I admire the premise and the boldness of the idea but it came across as idealistic preaching, far too much spoon feeding of the audience.

I am glad PSH won for Capote, he is a great actor and that was a role that in the hands of a lessor actor could easily have come across as a bad impersonation.

Felicity Huffman was robbed of best actress...ffs a women playing a man being a women, how is that not oscar material, and to be beaten by witherspoon in a fairly easy role really sucks.

[Werny]

Linkin Park. "Hybrid Theory"..

They obviously have read all the "God I hope they don't turn Nu-Metal" fears and decided to play on them! Hehe. Tool were influenced by Melvins not only in their music, it seems.

[toolfreak]

They obviously have read all the "God I hope they don't turn Nu-Metal" fears and decided to play on them! Hehe. Tool were influenced by Melvins not only in their music, it seems.

I hope thats the case that would be might funny all the pieces fit that their taking the piss out of nu metal any way 10,000 days and hybrid idea LOL...

[Otherside]

Metallica - 1)DT respect them enough to have dedicated an entire live set to the faithful reproduction of master of puppets.
2)If you judge works on their technical proficiency alone then you have completely missed the point of music.
3)Ok, Lars is a jerk...he loves money...are you trying to tell me that he is the only rock star alive that has those character traits?


Now see you're not understanding my post.


If I was interested in guitars(which I'm really not)

Want to know my favorite bands? Here they are:

Explosions in the Sky
Muse
Opeth
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Wilco
Sigur Ros
Radiohead
Dredg
At The Drive-In

Now not a single one of those save Opeth can claim any extreme technical proficiency, so don't go spouting off to me about missing the purpose of music please.

I don't care that DT did a cover of Metallica, I didn't even say I liked them, just that John Petrucci could run circles around Kirk and James, and he can.

Maybe not, but I'm not attacking the rock and roll industry, I'm attacking Metallica.

[Shadius]

To be fair though, John Petrucci can run circles around 99% of guitarists. So it's not really relevant, right?

Metallica has decent guitarists, who have come up with their share of decent riffs and solo's. People do like them for a reason, they're just not everyones cup of tea, and the fans obviously tend to overrate them because they are a damn popular metal band.

Where are people getting this "Hybrid Idea" thing from?

[Prince of Darkness]

How long before the release of Lataralus was the title revealed?

[BassMasterMike88]

This is a pretty interesting spring so far, Tool fans and RHCP fans are waiting for soon to be released albums, and Metallica is in the studio as we speak (who knows how that will turn out). This my freinds is History in the making.

[Prince of Darkness]

...and Muse, Incubus and Radiohead?
Mastodon?

EDIT: By the way, The "In case your interested..." post on Toolband was put back on by blair.

[JamJar]

Maiden, Pain Of Salvation?

[Prince of Darkness]

exactly. THis year is gonna rock!(& Metal)

[Det_Nosnip]

Metallica is in the studio as we speak (who knows how that will turn out).

I'll give you a hint: it'll start with an 'r' and end with a "EALLY ****ING BAD." :rolleyes:

[borisdablade]

Now see you're not understanding my post.




Want to know my favorite bands? Here they are:

Explosions in the Sky
Muse
Opeth
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Wilco
Sigur Ros
Radiohead
Dredg
At The Drive-In

Now not a single one of those save Opeth can claim any extreme technical proficiency, so don't go spouting off to me about missing the purpose of music please.

I don't care that DT did a cover of Metallica, I didn't even say I liked them, just that John Petrucci could run circles around Kirk and James, and he can.

Maybe not, but I'm not attacking the rock and roll industry, I'm attacking Metallica.

Of course JP can run rings around Metallica technically, as can the rest of DT, but my point with the MOP cover performance is that DT are also indebted somewhat to the style Metallica helped develop (Im not saying they pioneered it, but they were a force in the shaping of metal in the 80s). Now I know DT arent strictly in the same style of metal as metallica were, but they do borrow some elements from that genre.

[misunderstood]

Back now. It's a really ****ing good solid release.

First few tracks are much heavier guitar wise than lateralus. Staying on pretty straight grooves most of the time 6/4.

Vocals are a lot more likened to APC stuff too.
Then the whole album turns a bit spiritual and you get a lot of tabla and bongo work. HEAPS of intense build ups.

Track 5 or 6 will be the single. Punchy. Catchy and has this awesome Vocal intro.

THE LAST SONG IS THE BEST TOOL SONG EVER WRITTEN.
Electronic drum kit and it's just the most epic thing i've heard.

Looks like it's an end of April release and no name is confirmed yet.

Found this at toolnavy. this was posted by some dj in australia who attended a recent listening party.

[Futuro]

Hey guys. Some of you may remember my ambient track I posted a while back. Well, I finally got to recording some "real" songs. So I thought you might like to hear one. Theres gonna be a few changes made still. Im going to add Djembe to it, maybe some bongos. Hopefully I will release a cd within a few months.

http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0G9DGSNNT49G41POCS41LDA8SJ

[sgrevs]

Found this at toolnavy. this was posted by some dj in australia who attended a recent listening party.

I heard a similar thing from the guy who does 'Full Metal Racket' on Triple J, and whose name has escaped me for some reason. Andrew...Boag? Something. But he said it was really hard hitting, and much heavier overall thatn Lateralus.

He also said that at the end of the listening, Maynard himself went over to the cd player and took out the cd and pocketed it before anyone else could go near it.

Very protective.

And apparently there is lots of Meshuggah influence, and the drumming is aboslutely spectacular.

[Det_Nosnip]

electronic drumkit

UGH! :upset: I really hope he doesn't mean FULL electronic kit....that would suck.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Natural drums are always going to be better, but electronic drumkit could mean a massive amount of sounds. Plus anything with the word 'epic' is a soft spot for me.

[Huber]

What? If something sets a paradigm, a standard that I believe to be the definition of heavy, and another band doesn't meet it, then, by the standards of the other band, I think they are not heavy. It's not a hard string of logic to follow :\


That's more like it.

If you're going to base these things on a standard YOU define, it isn't fact.

Even at that it's kind of harsh to take the elite of heavy or guitar playing and saying anything under that isn't heavy/good.

[Otherside]

That's more like it.

If you're going to base these things on a standard YOU define, it isn't fact.

Even at that it's kind of harsh to take the elite of heavy or guitar playing and saying anything under that isn't heavy/good.


Like your standard is any better than mine? So why even attack me on it in the first place? By the logic you just stated, while I can't necessarily prove my statement to be fact, there is no way in hell you can tell me that it's wrong, either.

I just used Joe and John as an example as an example to show the humongous gap between the elite and Metallica. I could list alot more guitarists that are better thank Kirk and James, but why bother if I can just two of the top and get my point across?

[Shadius]

Otherside, while I do mostly agree with you, Metallica are part of a genre of music called heavy metal (Or most of their back catalogue is, anyway). This means that the style of music they play is heavy compared to the rest of music as a whole. This is an accepted fact by the majority of people, and while they may not be heavy within their genre, or compared to other genres; they ARE a heavy band.

(Yeah, I know they're been more specifically thrash, and at other times just hard rock)

[Det_Nosnip]

Natural drums are always going to be better, but electronic drumkit could mean a massive amount of sounds. Plus anything with the word 'epic' is a soft spot for me.

Danny already has a massive amount of sounds. His current setup with acoustic drums combined with electronic triggers is great. I'm with you on the epic part, though.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

A more massive amount of sounds is always better than a massive amount of sounds, though.

Yes, I am American.

[penelope weird hands]

A more massive amount of sounds is always better than a massive amount of sounds, though.

Yes, I am American.

:lol: Nice one.

But, yeah, this album sounds great.
Woke up this morning thinking about it, actually.
I'm looking forward to my brain being sonically massaged by this release.

[Moses]

A more massive amount of sounds is always better than a massive amount of sounds, though.

Yes, I am American.
Jake, this is the band I drum for...

http://www.myspace.com/handmedownheroes

Alot of the rolls including the bass drum sound like regular tom rolls due to a ****ty bass drum.

[G_Mac07]

Any Australians who post here, these are the current rumoured tour dates. I don't have an actual source though, it's just something I saw on another forum. Hopefully someone can confirm it.

Tue August 08 - Entertainment Centre - Brisbane - Australia
Thu August 10 - SuperDome - Sydney - Australia
Sat August 12 - Rod Laver Arena - Melbourne - Australia
Mon August 14 - Entertainment Centre - Adelaide - Australia

Man I hope it's for real.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

^^^
Please god,let that be true.

[G_Mac07]

It's on Toolshed, but it's marked as rumoured only. I guess will find out something concrete soon if it's true.

/listened to Lateralus the other. It's not as godly as I remembered it, but it was enough to arouse my interests again.

[borisdablade]

Any Australians who post here, these are the current rumoured tour dates. I don't have an actual source though, it's just something I saw on another forum. Hopefully someone can confirm it.



Man I hope it's for real.

omg omg omg....if thats not real its bloody cruel :eek:

[horseman]

oh my god....the superdome....thats ****ing awesome.....oh my god i just creamed my pants thinking about going. **** buying a darkness ticket....goin to tool!

[sgrevs]

HOLY CRAP...dates...omg

I just died twice.

If that's not true I'll die a third time, and not come back.

[Huber]

Like your standard is any better than mine? So why even attack me on it in the first place? By the logic you just stated, while I can't necessarily prove my statement to be fact, there is no way in hell you can tell me that it's wrong, either.

I just used Joe and John as an example as an example to show the humongous gap between the elite and Metallica. I could list alot more guitarists that are better thank Kirk and James, but why bother if I can just two of the top and get my point across?

Because it doesn't actually prove that they are bad.

I never said my standard was better at all. In fact, I wouldn't say there is a "standard" in my opinion. There's certain factors of guitar playing I like to see in my guitar players before I say they are good or bad. James and Kirk have those certain things. I never said they were outstanding, I never said they were necessarily better than anyone else, because those things don't matter. What matters to me is that they can pick up their guitar, write some good lines and play them well.

I'm not going to dismiss them as good players simply because better ones exist.

[G_Mac07]

Man, I hope this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4284365265567106977&q) doesn't happen when Tool's touring this time around.

[Kurrpt]

case in point otherside, they both are WAY better then you at guitar, hence you should really talk LESS sh!t :thumb:

[lucky luciano]

I'll give you a hint: it'll start with an 'r' and end with a "EALLY ****ING BAD." :rolleyes:

I bet it will be pretty good actually. They have already said that its going to be more like their older ****. What they need to do if they want to make a good album is go back to getting ****ed up, fighting with each other, and sticking to their own intruments.

[nowitzki]

Man, I hope this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4284365265567106977&q) doesn't happen when Tool's touring this time around.
Argh, that was painful.

[Futuro]

Jake, this is the band I drum for...

http://www.myspace.com/handmedownheroes

Alot of the rolls including the bass drum sound like regular tom rolls due to a ****ty bass drum.
Should have competed in the drum off this year. :chug:

[Moses]

Thanks. Do you just have to submit a recording of a solo? Why is your avatar so small now?

[Spiritofmosa]

Man, I hope this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4284365265567106977&q) doesn't happen when Tool's touring this time around.

lol.. does Maynard always dress like that/

hurt (http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/capi001/hurt/rapture/rapture_v300.asx)

[Det_Nosnip]

I bet it will be pretty good actually. They have already said that its going to be more like their older ****. What they need to do if they want to make a good album is go back to getting ****ed up, fighting with each other, and sticking to their own intruments.

I doubt it. That was what they said about the last record.....I remember there being a ton of hype going into it. Bands that try to "return to their old sound" rarely if ever succeed. Music is about evolution and expansion...case in point: Tool.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Jake, this is the band I drum for...

http://www.myspace.com/handmedownheroes

Alot of the rolls including the bass drum sound like regular tom rolls due to a ****ty bass drum.

Moses, you guys have a cool sound.

I doubt it. That was what they said about the last record.....I remember there being a ton of hype going into it. Bands that try to "return to their old sound" rarely if ever succeed. Music is about evolution and expansion...case in point: Tool.

That's one thing I really like about them, they are absolutely not a static band. Some argue Aenima was better (like me) but others think Lateralus is, either way I love both albums though and the reason I love Tool is large in part to them making, say, a Lateralus even thought it's not my favorite album. Even though I like Aenima more as an album - I think Lateralus has an evolved song structure.

[Otherside]

Because it doesn't actually prove that they are bad.

I never said my standard was better at all. In fact, I wouldn't say there is a "standard" in my opinion. There's certain factors of guitar playing I like to see in my guitar players before I say they are good or bad. James and Kirk have those certain things. I never said they were outstanding, I never said they were necessarily better than anyone else, because those things don't matter. What matters to me is that they can pick up their guitar, write some good lines and play them well.

I'm not going to dismiss them as good players simply because better ones exist.

Well then what matters to me and what matters to you are obviously different, so this argument is pointless. I see them as sub-par and boring, you don't.

The thing is, you were the one who started this string of arguments, with the whole "omg how can u say metallica arnt heavy and good guitar players", which upon giving my reasoning you go "omg but thats just opinion and you cant prove that".

So I don't get what your trying to prove here, that the argument you brought up has no relavence? Ok.

case in point otherside, they both are WAY better then you at guitar, hence you should really talk LESS sh!t

Well I guess if I actually played guitar that would mean something to me, but it really doesn't. You don't have to be superior to be a critic, and you have never had to.

[Darkness]

Guys, please take it to the Metallica thread.


Anyways, I hear Tool's coming out with a new record..

[Otherside]

Yah, I'm done with that argument anyways, nothing good has come out of it, just a bunch of flame wars.

Sorry it had to clutter up this thread.

And no new Tool record, it's just Maynard burping for around 70 minutes. Of course, we'll all buy it.

[Darkness]

I know I will. Wouldn't that be funny if they put 81st Chakra on the album as a bonus track or something? That'd be great... thought it would probably ruin the album.

[Moses]

Moses, you guys have a cool sound.
Thanks man, we've gained alot of popularity in the past couple weeks or so.

[Spiritofmosa]

Thanks man, we've gained alot of popularity in the past couple weeks or so.

is your music consider grunge? sounds kinda prog to me.. i dont know.
but your drums are really raw and i love how it sounds.

[Futuro]

Thanks. Do you just have to submit a recording of a solo? Why is your avatar so small now?Yeah, You should definetly do the next one. You have a solid feel.

As for my avatar, Searched for small pics of Opeth and this was the first one.

[borisdablade]

I'm looking forward to the artwork for this album too, I wonder if it will be a little more subdued this time around as from what I have heard in interviews the album is not really concerned with all the weird spirituality of lateralus/aenima.


Also they said that Meshuggah has been a big influence on the production of the album, I wonder if Adam will abandon the drop-d sixer and grab an 8-string ;), well thats far-fetched but really we could so some lower tunings ala prison sex/parabola (remember friends that St Anger doesnt mean all bands that change tunings will go to ****)

[Kurrpt]

prison sex was just with a B string, hardly a "low" tuning


as far as "messhugah" influenced, hes probably just talking about the weird time signatures that they are known for

[G_Mac07]

Sat August 12 - Rod Laver Arena - Melbourne - Australia

Hugh Jackman is doing The Boy From Oz at Rod Laver that night.
So unless he's working Stinkfist and Prison Sex into Peter Allens life (LOL) I can't see it working.

:upset:

That certainly puts a dampener on our hopes for an Australian Tour in August.

[Trintar_VIII]

from Toolband.com:

TRACK LISTINGS FOR 10,000 DAYS
Here's the track listing for the new TOOL ALBUM entitled 10,000 DAYS

offically set to be released on MAY 2nd, 2006.

Vicarious
Jambi
Wings For Marie (Pt 1)
10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2)
The Pot
Lipan Conjuring
Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann)
Rosetta Stoned
Intension
Right In Two
Viginti Tres

Well, it's all up now.

[Shadius]

ROFL!

As.

If.

[Trintar_VIII]

It seems they took an early start on April Fools this year.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) sounds like being my new favourite track.

Now watch as this really is the tracklist, and we all have to go and re-consider everything we thought we knew about Tool

[Sleeper]

I've checked around the sites, and this sounds pretty legit.

[sgrevs]

I bet 'Wings for Marie' is an acoustic ballad.

That would work.

[Shadius]

You have to ask yourself how these tracknames are any "worse" than Hooker With a Penis, Prison Sex, or Jerk-Off though, don't you.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Just goes to show how any sort of trust most of us had is destroyed thanks to the last few months of false rumours.

And on first seeing:

Wings For Marie (Pt 1)
10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2)

I immediately thought Pink Floyd

[SmashingPumpkin]

That can't possibly be the real tracklisting.

I mean, Rosetta Stoned? The Pot? Lost Keys (Blame Hoffman)?

I'm not too certain that the tracklist is real or the title.

Eh, the album will be probably be awesome even if these are the real track names.

[Trintar_VIII]

Interesting names, nonetheless. But like SmashingPumpkin said, the album will still be great.

[misunderstood]

:amaze:
I'm speechless.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Based on Andy King's review, the first single will in fact be "The Pot" :lol:

Honestly, I consider this to be very fake because of the last track. It's latin for 23. If you remember back about a month ago (maybe a little bit more), there was a fake tracklisting released under the album name Aldaraia. One of the tracks on the album was called "23." As evident by one of Blair's updates, he has seen that tracklist as he points out some of the song titles directly and calls them fake. So, this could just be Blair and/or the band messing with us.

[Darkness]

If this is true, I'm not buying the album. But it's probably not.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

That's not really a good reason to not buy the album. I mean, come on, it's the music that matters, right?

[Moses]

Yeah, You should definetly do the next one. You have a solid feel.

As for my avatar, Searched for small pics of Opeth and this was the first one.
Thanks man. I thought you won the competition last year though, don't you get to keep the big avatar?

is your music consider grunge? sounds kinda prog to me.. i dont know.
but your drums are really raw and i love how it sounds.
Thanks. I mess up once but eh, what can you do? I call our music modern rock...

[Darkness]

That's not really a good reason to not buy the album. I mean, come on, it's the music that matters, right?
Well, I'd probably just not be able to take it as serious as I did for Lateralus...

[Trintar_VIII]

And the one track "Jambi" was that character from PeeWee's Playhouse and it also is a small province in Indonesia.

[BlindWriting]

Things are finally happening.

Even if some of these track names are fake (which they probably are) they're interesting nonetheless and a couple of them are rather eye-catching.

But just a little while longer and we've got a new Tool cd in our grubby little hands.

Here comes the water...

[Spiritofmosa]

Thanks man. I thought you won the competition last year though, don't you get to keep the big avatar?


Thanks. I mess up once but eh, what can you do? I call our music modern rock...

whats up with the techno song.. its crazy man

[Moses]

whats up with the techno song.. its crazy man
Heh, I know. I recorded that in like five minutes.

[deadohiosky9]

i'm assuming that track listing is legit, i'm doubtful blair or tool would be f.ucking with us this late in the game...but i wouldn't be surprised if they were. those are some awesome song titles though, looks like the new album is possibly another concept album.

[misunderstood]

album cover? (http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=16255&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=260) or this one (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p22oy.jpg)?

Click on that link and scroll down. Near the end there's some guy with a picture of what supposedly might be the album cover.

[Spiritofmosa]

album cover? (http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=16255&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=260)

Click on that link and scroll down. Near the end there's some guy with a picture of what supposedly might be the album cover.

looks wired.. could the the single design.

[JamJar]

Could this be the fake album that Blair was hinting at in an earlier post? (The one about album leaks)

[Shadius]

Awesome track names? What the hell? haha.

Those track names are funny, they're fake. I seriously still think Tool are ****ing with us.

This is almost definately the fake album titles in my mind, to avoid tracks being leaked.