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Otherside
02-04-2006, 03:47 PM
Yeah, it's far better to lead them on so they feel frustrated and foolish. Then you can have a few giggles at their expense and feel like a "real" Tool fan.
Seems like someone got their feelings hurt :p
We have no obligation to help every single person with 1 post that asks the same damn question that was answered at the top of the same page or the page before.
Toaster
02-04-2006, 04:24 PM
Seems like someone got their feelings hurt :p
We have no obligation to help every single person with 1 post that asks the same damn question that was answered at the top of the same page or the page before.
You don't have the obligation to ridicule them either. You could just ignore their post, or in your next post simply print "see top of page", or something similar.
Darkness
02-04-2006, 04:38 PM
But they have the obligation to check various other sources, such as the Tool web sites, or even quickly browse a few pages back to see if anythings been said.
Toaster
02-04-2006, 04:50 PM
First of all, you're condoning the behaviour by saying that since one person doesn't do what he is "obligated" to do, you then take it upon yourself to punish him by ridiculing him?
Second, you don't know whether these users checked other sources or not. Users are allowed to ask questions about a release date. When I check other sources about an upcoming album title, and I find nothing, it's obvious I'm going to ask questions when I see titles in this thread. However, I wouldn't ask if I was aware of the fake titles that have been posted recently.. which leads me to think that you're just bored with real Tool discussion, and are posting these falsities for kicks alone.
Futuro
02-04-2006, 05:02 PM
When I check other sources about an upcoming album title, and I find nothing, it's obvious I'm going to ask questions when I see titles in this thread.Dude you found the secret source code message too? :eek:
/Yeah im an ***/
Adam jones.tv should be pretty cool. Well from what I have seen on his myspace at least.
PinkFreud
02-04-2006, 05:26 PM
First of all, you're condoning the behaviour by saying that since one person doesn't do what he is "obligated" to do, you then take it upon yourself to punish him by ridiculing him?
Second, you don't know whether these users checked other sources or not. Users are allowed to ask questions about a release date. When I check other sources about an upcoming album title, and I find nothing, it's obvious I'm going to ask questions when I see titles in this thread. However, I wouldn't ask if I was aware of the fake titles that have been posted recently.. which leads me to think that you're just bored with real Tool discussion, and are posting these falsities for kicks alone.
don't take this so seriously. it's really not a big deal. you're making this out to be something huge. punishing a user by ridicule? i mean, come on, a little joking around is to be expected. and besides, this threads been around for a long time. i'm pretty sure we've almost exhausted talk about what minimal details we get about the new album and older albums.
Toaster
02-04-2006, 06:12 PM
I can't believe how extremely gullible people are in this thread some times
I know...
Transvestite Musings!
o rly?!11
You'd think by the tenth time we've made that joke or something similar, people would catch on.
Yeah its pretty funny.
I know it's not that serious. I was trying to make a point, people wanted to argue, so I defended my position. It just bugs me how I got ridiculed for something so trivial and obviously not indicative in any way of my amount of love for Tool.
And yes, my feelings were hurt somewhat.. this is after I believed that the album was out in 2 weeks. :p
Shadius
02-04-2006, 07:02 PM
First of all, you're condoning the behaviour by saying that since one person doesn't do what he is "obligated" to do, you then take it upon yourself to punish him by ridiculing him?
Second, you don't know whether these users checked other sources or not. Users are allowed to ask questions about a release date. When I check other sources about an upcoming album title, and I find nothing, it's obvious I'm going to ask questions when I see titles in this thread. However, I wouldn't ask if I was aware of the fake titles that have been posted recently.. which leads me to think that you're just bored with real Tool discussion, and are posting these falsities for kicks alone.
I thought it was funny. It dosn't have anything to do with being more or less of a fan of the band. We always joke around like this, mostly because the band members themselves are known to. It's sort of a Tool in-joke, though pretty much everyone knows about it, so it's not exactly exclusive or anything.
When the new album comes out we can think of more interesting things to talk about, rather than either rehashing old discussions or clutching at straws and making up dumb theories.
YouGottaBeCrazy
02-04-2006, 08:05 PM
There's a highly good chance that the album will be out in May. That's 3 months away. It's a long way from now, but atleast we don't have to wait another year. Judging by the timeline from the events leading up to the Lateralus release, we should find out the name of the new album within the next couple weeks.
Futuro
02-04-2006, 08:37 PM
There's a highly good chance that the album will be out in May. That's 3 months away. It's a long way from now, but atleast we don't have to wait another year. Judging by the timeline from the events leading up to the Lateralus release, we should find out the name of the new album within the next couple weeks. And then given fake song names to download. I remember searching for one of the fake ones 5 years ago :(
YouGottaBeCrazy
02-04-2006, 08:43 PM
And then given fake song names to download. I remember searching for one of the fake ones 5 years ago :(
Actually, following the Lateralus timeline, we would've gotten those fake album/song titles already. Plus, I doubt Tool would pull that joke twice.
Darkness
02-05-2006, 03:13 PM
this is after I believed that the album was out in 2 weeks. :p
That would be my fault. :D
Not that I regret it. :p
I wonder if anyone's going to believe the titles are real when they do release the real ones.
Darkness
02-05-2006, 06:07 PM
I'm not believing anything tell the records in my hands.
I'm not believing anything tell the records in my hands.
Man, I couldn't have put it better myself.
Shadius
02-05-2006, 07:10 PM
In your hands? I thought the album was a myth at this point. :p
Dr. Jake Destructo
02-05-2006, 07:15 PM
Man, I couldn't have put it better myself.
Spelling aside, I also agree with this idea. :p
To fill the void, why don't you guys check out Steerpikes most recent spotlight on The Cruxshadows. Wicked good band.
Darkness
02-05-2006, 07:20 PM
What did I spell wrong...
Futuro
02-05-2006, 07:30 PM
I couldn't till you.
YouGottaBeCrazy
02-05-2006, 07:46 PM
What did I spell wrong...
I'm not believing anything tell the records in my hands.
It should be "...'till (or until) the record's in my hands."
Moses
02-05-2006, 07:50 PM
Soon they're going to sell fake albums and we won't know when the real one will come out because there will be all these fake ones and they'll keep releasing them to make you think the real one is a fake too and then they'll sit in their lazy-boys and laugh till someone actually stumbles upon the real album and then Maynard will flip some people and then the Rapture will take place and all the Christians will disappear from the Earth which is kinda sad because they wouldn't have been able to hear the album but who cares cuz they're in heaven as far as they know right?
G_Mac07
02-05-2006, 07:52 PM
So, what's the news guys?
/hasn't been around here for the last 2 months
YouGottaBeCrazy
02-05-2006, 07:57 PM
So, what's the news guys?
/hasn't been around here for the last 2 months
Album is mastered and is coming out in May. They are going to Europe (minus Adam) to do promo touring. Most likely, this is giving the album to certain critics for early reviews. Expect to hear the name of the album and/or song titles within the next couple weeks.
G_Mac07
02-05-2006, 08:00 PM
Thank you. :)
Futuro
02-05-2006, 08:01 PM
Why is uploading illegal?
And since when does tool do love songs?
YouGottaBeCrazy
02-05-2006, 08:14 PM
Why is upload (http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=25EWJMILNAXS016E8QRUOF3OPJ)ing illegal?
And since when does tool do love songs?
It's not allowed on these forums, not sure why. Ask MX.
Oh, and that's not Tool. That's probably a band Maynard was in before he joined Tool.
Futuro
02-05-2006, 08:15 PM
It's not allowed on these forums.
Oh, and that's not Tool. That's probably a band Maynard was in before he joined Tool.
Ok cool, Drummer has the same dynamic style as Carey.
Rounder
02-05-2006, 08:43 PM
It's not allowed on these forums, not sure why. Ask MX.
Oh, and that's not Tool. That's probably a band Maynard was in before he joined Tool.
it is the Replicants, they did a bunch of covers, floyd and stuff. Was looking for some of this stuff, always wanted to hear it. The drummer does have a danny vibe.
it was maynard, Paul d'Amour (tool) some guys from some other band and someone from Danny's side project Zaum.
Darkness
02-05-2006, 09:02 PM
It should be "...'till (or until) the record's in my hands."
Oh, I guess I was just typing the way I talk.
Killtacular
02-05-2006, 09:40 PM
It should be "...'till (or until) the record's in my hands."
Wrong. It should be "...'til."
Because you're shortening "until" not "untill."
Darkness
02-05-2006, 09:44 PM
Wrong. It should be "...'til."
Because you're shortening "until" not "untill."
Oh, burn.
Dr. Jake Destructo
02-05-2006, 09:50 PM
Christ, sorry for the derailment guys. :lol:
Pezzo_di_Merda
02-05-2006, 10:36 PM
You can get info on pretty much anything about TOOL on one of their websites, no need asking anyone here, and quite frankly, I'd much rather go to TOOL's site then to an unofficial one, no offense to anyone
Spiritofmosa
02-06-2006, 05:36 AM
Soon they're going to sell fake albums and we won't know when the real one will come out because there will be all these fake ones and they'll keep releasing them to make you think the real one is a fake too and then they'll sit in their lazy-boys and laugh till someone actually stumbles upon the real album and then Maynard will flip some people and then the Rapture will take place and all the Christians will disappear from the Earth which is kinda sad because they wouldn't have been able to hear the album but who cares cuz they're in heaven as far as they know right?
hahaha ****..
YouGottaBeCrazy
02-06-2006, 02:06 PM
Wrong. It should be "...'til."
Because you're shortening "until" not "untill."
"Till" is a word. The apostrophe isn't needed. When people say till, it's not an abbreviation of until, it's its own word.
Oh, burn. :rolleyes:
Kurrpt
02-06-2006, 03:18 PM
someone need to put a BIG reminder for me that states
THREAD IS WORTH VISITING AGAIN KURRPT
it would be greatly appreciated :lol: :thumb:
Solvent_Abuse
02-06-2006, 04:32 PM
Wow.. talking about 'til' ant 'till' :lol:
Anyway, first post here, expect to see me a lot more.
Just gotta say, Tool has really made a difference to me. I love Third Eye, The Grudge, Jimmy and Lateralus.
Have you guys ever discussed 'toolgasms'?
Well every one of those songs does it for me :lol:
See you around!
Futuro
02-06-2006, 11:06 PM
Have you guys ever discussed 'toolgasms'?Freak! :mad:
I think Tool should either switch to writing songs about dragons(Power metal lol)/and or Boy band pop songs for one album. I can just imagine "Bye Bye Bye" In 5/8 :p
Trintar_VIII
02-06-2006, 11:20 PM
Toolgasms, eh? I call them Tool Moments, but I guess they both mean the same thing. Yeah, I get those on several of their songs. It's good stuff.
Moses
02-06-2006, 11:24 PM
I can just imagine "Bye Bye Bye" In 5/8 :p
This made me laugh out loud and actually try it.
Knifeboy
02-07-2006, 04:56 AM
I've tried "toolgasms" but I'm not so arrogant or ignorant to believe that only Tool can cause them.. So I call them the correct term "eargasms"
Huber
02-07-2006, 09:32 AM
I've tried "toolgasms" but I'm not so arrogant or ignorant to believe that only Tool can cause them.. So I call them the correct term "eargasms"
I call it the "musical g-spot".
Spiritofmosa
02-07-2006, 10:12 AM
the best toolgasm i had was when i was listeining to the grudge and my mind wad half awake , the chunky distorted riffs gave we the great feeling
Trintar_VIII
02-07-2006, 11:34 AM
Yeah, they're quite nice. I've gotten such feelings during some Opeth stuff as well, though it originated with Tool.
I get eargasms from a lot of music, in fact, most of my favorite music.
clearvision
02-07-2006, 12:27 PM
Waking up to the scream in ticks is probably the best experience i've had listening to tool. It ALWAYS happens it's quite amusing. SUUUUUCK
Maybe no quarter/push!t/third eye in the dark too...
ThePatient
02-07-2006, 01:03 PM
Pushit in the dark is my favorite.
I actually cried during it once, but in my defense it was my 6th day in the hospital and I was starting to crack.
Esoteric_Creator
02-07-2006, 03:57 PM
I first had my first Toolgasm (if you don't like me calling them this...sue me. lol.) during a depression I was going through. A cousin had burned this CD for me (I had never heard them beforehand) and I listened to Reflection...
...nearly wet myself after that..
Now I get a toolgasm everytime I'm learning something new and I have the Lateralus CD playing in my ears..
Magicaltroll
02-07-2006, 05:00 PM
I get eargasms from a lot of music, in fact, most of my favorite music.
I get constant eargasms while listening to Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer.
Half an hour of musical bliss...
And it never gets old.
I get constant eargasms while listening to Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer.
Half an hour of musical bliss...
And it never gets old.
I know what you mean, although I have trouble getting any kind of blissful feeling from music that extreme. Softer stuff usually does it for me. ;)
Magicaltroll
02-07-2006, 05:25 PM
I know what you mean, although I have trouble getting any kind of blissful feeling from music that extreme. Softer stuff usually does it for me. ;)
Me too.
Usually heavy stuff is just awesome sounding. Or whatever you wanna call it :p
But that album is the most emotional album I have ever heard. And everything about it for me is just incredible. The riffs, the vocals, the insanely fast drum parts, and just all the intensity you hear in every song, just makes me get shivers. The lyrics are what really do it for me though, since I can relate extremely well to them.
The only album that comes close to this album emotional wise, in my opinion, is NIN - The Downward Spiral
Shadius
02-07-2006, 08:57 PM
Eargasms... Oh dear.
Get laid, you freaks!
:p
Toaster
02-07-2006, 09:08 PM
I get constant eargasms while listening to Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer.
Half an hour of musical bliss...
And it never gets old.
Do you get eargasms or just goosebumps? I've never gotten what I consider an eargasm from grind. It's usually a melodic thing, or a certain way a singer pronounces a part, or something to that effect. However, I get an equally awesome (yet different) feeling from a really heavy, sinister part.
That band really unnerves me. I listened to Prowler in it's entirety one evening, and I swear I had trouble falling asleep because the lyrics to "Starbelly" just kept repeating in my head. A very disturbing concept, but I do agree that the lyrics are well-written.
Dr. Jake Destructo
02-07-2006, 10:36 PM
Eargasms... Oh dear.
Get laid, you freaks!
:p
Being obsessed with a band is by far greater than getting some.
Moses below: You're such a sap. :lol: But I love you.
Darkness
02-07-2006, 10:40 PM
Being obsessed with a band is by far greater than getting some.
Agreed 100%.
Didn't we have a similar discussion about this a long time ago?
Moses
02-07-2006, 10:41 PM
I think it depends on whether you're in love with the girl or not. Sex without love is such a petty and forgettable act.
Mr_Bounce
02-08-2006, 02:15 PM
Hehe, eargasms...
About Tool, they're pretty much just f***ing amazing in all ways.
Kurrpt
02-08-2006, 02:19 PM
I think it depends on whether you're in love with the girl or not. Sex without love is such a petty and forgettable act.
well, if you are man-whore it is...
misunderstood
02-08-2006, 03:19 PM
"Rumors continue to fly around about album release dates, and now rumors are out about the title of the new album. A Seattle radio station this morning announced the title would be "Elephtheria", to which Maynard's response was "nice try." Even more amusing were the song titles they announced (these bogus names are here only so you can laugh and ask yourself if these sound more like Tool titles or Limp Bizkit titles) -- "Greed Lies", "Psychiatrical", "Karma", and "Feminist Souls." Yikes."
:rolleyes:
That album title had been in the rumor mill for quite some time now...especially over at the toolnavy boards. It can finally be scratched out.
Knifeboy
02-08-2006, 04:36 PM
Christ, these fake album titles are some of the dumbest I've ever seen
Otherside
02-08-2006, 05:00 PM
I like how everyone goes for all these psuedo-intellectual names to try and sound like Tool and fail so bad, when it's really not hard to come up with names in the style of Tool.
Merkaba
02-09-2006, 03:12 AM
I like how everyone goes for all these psuedo-intellectual names to try and sound like Tool and fail so bad, when it's really not hard to come up with names in the style of Tool.
I know, Right...
(looks over at screen name)
Esoteric_Creator
02-09-2006, 03:14 PM
Are there anyone in here that are visual artists..?
The reason I ask this is because after first hearing Lateralus so many images were flashing through my head I had to draw some of them. I can only imagine so with the new album on the horizon..
Did any of the past albums strike a creative streak in any of you guys..?
Huber
02-09-2006, 06:17 PM
I get constant eargasms while listening to Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer.
Half an hour of musical bliss...
And it never gets old.
That album is so solid and fresh everytime it's put on.
Didn't you need some Pig Destroyer stuff from me awhile back? I completely forgot.
Moses
02-09-2006, 06:48 PM
This totally qualifies me as MX Sap coming after what I replied to Jake before.
Okay last night I was really dreaming but almost half awake but not quite Lucid Dreaming. I was kind of self aware but not really and all the sudden I hear Sarah (my significan't other) whisper the words "I love you", I thought that she might have been on the phone so I wake up looking around for my phone and it's not with me and this is the point where I figure out it was a dream. I actually get up and find my phone to see that noone called.
I told her about it this morning and she thinks that she might have actually said it and this immediately triggers a question in my head, can there be astral communication? What do you all think?
Darkness
02-09-2006, 08:18 PM
I think you just killed the thread again.
Dried Muffin Remnants
02-09-2006, 08:27 PM
I think it depends on whether you're in love with the girl or not. Sex without love is such a petty and forgettable act.
Haha, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree; at this point, I think love is petty at 17-18 yrs old. Sex is the sh!t.
Trintar_VIII
02-09-2006, 08:32 PM
That's pretty interesting. I've never had such a thing happen to me, so I'm not really sure if it's possible or not. Very interesting, nonetheless.
Spiritofmosa
02-09-2006, 08:32 PM
This totally qualifies me as MX Sap coming after what I replied to Jake before.
Okay last night I was really dreaming but almost half awake but not quite Lucid Dreaming. I was kind of self aware but not really and all the sudden I hear Sarah (my significan't other) whisper the words "I love you", I thought that she might have been on the phone so I wake up looking around for my phone and it's not with me and this is the point where I figure out it was a dream. I actually get up and find my phone to see that noone called.
I told her about it this morning and she thinks that she might have actually said it and this immediately triggers a question in my head, can there be astral communication? What do you all think?
haha wow maybe shes just playing wit you. Maybe you were thinking of her before your body fell asleep.
Once i was lying on my bed waiting for a handphone message, and the lights were off so if i recieved a message there would be light. so i was waiting and i fell into sleep paralys. my body couldnt move and i actually remember seeing light, but i coudlnt get out of the paralys. later i realised i did not recieve any message. :(
Moses
02-09-2006, 08:59 PM
I think you just killed the thread again.
Shut up!!
/:upset:
Haha, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree; at this point, I think love is petty at 17-18 yrs old. Sex is the sh!t.
The thing is I've had a licentious past and I really lost my virginity very young. I guess I just grew up really fast.
Dried Muffin Remnants
02-09-2006, 09:20 PM
No, some day YOU'LL learn that sex is the only thing that matters, when all of sudden your wife turns into an old hag. Something tells me you won't "love" her as much when she's dry pvssy.
edit: excuse this 'licentious' post hahaha
I was gonna say, 'yowza.'
Except at extreme moments of horniness every once in a while, I'm not interested in having sex until it's something meaningful with a girl I really like.
cigaro - Very interesting story. Could you have been dreaming the entire time, perhaps?
Dr. Jake Destructo
02-09-2006, 10:10 PM
Sex isn't as fun when it isn't meaningful.
That is why at this point in my life, I will say sex is overrated.
Anyone smart would deduce that I have not had anything meaningful, which would be correct.
This is relevant to Tool, because I am listening to 4 Degrees, a song about opening up. :)
Moses
02-09-2006, 10:12 PM
Anyway, what does everyone think of my astral communication story?
Oh and Kage I have an album for you.
Extol-The Blueprint Dives
I could see you liking this.
Dr. Jake Destructo
02-09-2006, 10:17 PM
The power of suggestion is a real kicker.
Jake - You and me both. ;)
Anyway, what does everyone think of my astral communication story?
It's shaky, but things like that do happen to me quite a lot. I think when you have a close personal connection with a person, there is some kind of astral connection as well. I find that my brother and I have experiences similar to what you talked about, although, obviously with significantly different details.
Oh and Kage I have an album for you.
/rubs hands together.
Futuro
02-09-2006, 10:21 PM
http://www.johnzguitar.com/noise.htm
Some cool stuff on there.
Moses
02-09-2006, 10:45 PM
/rubs hands together.
So I sent it.
centrum
02-09-2006, 11:38 PM
To all of those talking about sex:
Having sex is fun. It doesn't matter who it is with. I have a few female friends that I am close friends with, but if we are horny we will have sex with each other. It doesn't mean we are all out sleeping with a million people or whatever. What it comes down to is that sex feels good. It is nice being close to another person for that moment. And may I repeat that it feels great.
Sure, some will say that having sex with someone you care about feels better. Which it may (or may not), at times, but the problem is that a large percent of these people have not been experienced enough of these other relationships, or regular relationships for that matter, to make a critical judgement on the matter. But, in my opinion first (or the first couple) time sex is great (but wear protection).
With the protection that is available today, in my opinion, there is no reason to not have sex with random people if you feel inclined. One may bring up the possibility of contracting an STD. Well, to be honest if you are wearing protection the chance of that happening is slim. Another may bring up the chance of pregnancy. Well, if you wear a condom that is not likely to happen. And a decent percent of sexually active women are on the pill, so that helps.
In the end, having sex is fun, and with the right precautions, is just as safe, if not more safe, than a wide spectrum of activities that young, immature, people are involved with.
Darkness
02-09-2006, 11:41 PM
Erm.. you took it a bit far, stop now.
So new album next week...
Spiritofmosa
02-10-2006, 03:23 AM
I was gonna say, 'yowza.'
Except at extreme moments of horniness every once in a while, I'm not interested in having sex until it's something meaningful with a girl I really like.
cigaro - Very interesting story. Could you have been dreaming the entire time, perhaps?
one thing about real dreams is that you are not aware until you wakeup. but i was aware and my mind was seeing something else.
Werny
02-10-2006, 06:17 AM
I get constant eargasms while listening to Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer.
Half an hour of musical bliss...
And it never gets old.
The production is so crisp and clear, yet it still has that spastic grind energy to it, and doesn't sound over-produced.
The guitar is the heaviest and best I've heard. And the riffing in every song is completely different, which is amazing.
The vocals... aren't harsh at all. They're the only bad thing.
The drums play such catchy beats and are so fast... woooo.
I wouldn't call it bliss, but yes it's probably the best grind I've heard.
Shadius
02-10-2006, 07:39 AM
About the astral projection; unlikely it was anything significant. Your unconscious will have the desire to hear her say "I love you", and she apparently loves you, so may have thought she said it, or is perhaps only saying it because you asked and she reconstructed the memory. I believe there are some things that are paranormal, but that story dosn't strike me as being particulary paranormal at all.
About having sex with friends; sex leads to loads of emotion, and emotional attachment for most people. Casual sex, especially with people you know can lead to one person getting the wrong idea, and friendships can suffer or break up for it. Sex for fun is totally fine, I'd just recommend them being strangers (So long as you make sure you use protection, preferably both of you, if not, definately the guy to avoid STI's). The best thing is sex with someone you care about a lot though, in my experience. I've been with my current girlfriend for over two years now, and it's all great. Casual sex wouldn't be quite as fulfilling. I couldn't see myself laying next to someone for hours afterwards, etc. and just being intimate in other ways. Sex isn't the 'be all and end all'.
Moses
02-10-2006, 07:50 AM
About the astral projection; unlikely it was anything significant. Your unconscious will have the desire to hear her say "I love you", and she apparently loves you, so may have thought she said it, or is perhaps only saying it because you asked and she reconstructed the memory. I believe there are some things that are paranormal, but that story dosn't strike me as being particulary paranormal at all.
Well the thing is, I'm really into astral projection and lucid dreaming and such. It could just be nothing but I'd like to figure out if we're capable of having conversations with other people while we sleep. It's really interesting to me and I'd like to look into it more.
Trintar_VIII
02-10-2006, 01:56 PM
I do lucid dreaming every couple of nights. Isn't that when you can take control of your dream? Or if you wake up from a dream, go back to sleep and continue where you left off?
Rounder
02-10-2006, 02:03 PM
one thing about real dreams is that you are not aware until you wakeup. but i was aware and my mind was seeing something else.
Being aware of your dreaming while it is occuring is called lucid dreaming.
Kurrpt
02-10-2006, 02:18 PM
I do lucid dreaming every couple of nights. Isn't that when you can take control of your dream? Or if you wake up from a dream, go back to sleep and continue where you left off?
its REALLY only cogniscent dreaming.
If you go from a waking state, immediately into a lucid dream its called a WILD, or a waking induced lucid dream
controlling your dreams is a totally different aspect of dreaming
Trintar_VIII
02-10-2006, 02:26 PM
Well, I can do both. While I'm dreaming, I'll be fully aware that I'm dreaming and then just "run around" doing stuff that doesn't seem to happen the way it was originally intended.
Spiritofmosa
02-10-2006, 09:19 PM
About the astral projection; unlikely it was anything significant. Your unconscious will have the desire to hear her say "I love you", and she apparently loves you, so may have thought she said it, or is perhaps only saying it because you asked and she reconstructed the memory. I believe there are some things that are paranormal, but that story dosn't strike me as being particulary paranormal at all.
About having sex with friends; sex leads to loads of emotion, and emotional attachment for most people. Casual sex, especially with people you know can lead to one person getting the wrong idea, and friendships can suffer or break up for it. Sex for fun is totally fine, I'd just recommend them being strangers (So long as you make sure you use protection, preferably both of you, if not, definately the guy to avoid STI's). The best thing is sex with someone you care about a lot though, in my experience. I've been with my current girlfriend for over two years now, and it's all great. Casual sex wouldn't be quite as fulfilling. I couldn't see myself laying next to someone for hours afterwards, etc. and just being intimate in other ways. Sex isn't the 'be all and end all'.
i cant imagine having sex with some of my friends and stay the same. i rather have sex with a stranger than with my friend.
* sleep is beautiful
clearvision
02-11-2006, 03:25 PM
The majority of the dreams i remember are lucid. It's not often i'm not in control, because i don't like not being in control. If i do stuff that is not normal for me to do IRL, more often than not i wake up.
Though this thread is pretty damn wierd now, isn't merkaba's thread in politics still open? (Rob complaining about conversation topic in the tool thread :eek: )
Shattered_Future
02-11-2006, 04:14 PM
I've had those dreams, somewhat like lucid dreams, where it's like you're dreaming, but your body isn't. So, in reality, your body is somewhat doing what's happening in the dream.
It's like, if you jump in the dream, you jump in real life. However, you're jumping while laying down on a bed, so it feels really weird. :amaze:
bwnstl
02-11-2006, 04:44 PM
No, unless I'm mistaken, lucid dreaming is when you control what happens in the dream, like what you do in it.
Toaster
02-11-2006, 05:02 PM
On the topic of dreaming, has anyone else here experienced sleep paralysis? It's a really frightening condition where your mind is fully aware but your body refuses to function, and it occurs right after (before?) waking up.
Magicaltroll
02-11-2006, 06:59 PM
That album is so solid and fresh everytime it's put on.
Didn't you need some Pig Destroyer stuff from me awhile back? I completely forgot.
Actually, I think it's you that gave me them first.
So I have you to thank for showing me this incredible album :p
I'm working ona review/interpretation thing of the album right now. I plan on adding it to Sputnik too. So I'll let you guys know when I get it done. I'm on the song Lost Cause right now in the review.
Flynn
02-11-2006, 07:00 PM
On the topic of dreaming, has anyone else here experienced sleep paralysis? It's a really frightening condition where your mind is fully aware but your body refuses to function, and it occurs right after (before?) waking up.
It's called Night Terrors. When you're half asleep, and you're starting to dream, but half awake and try to move but can't. Yeah, I've had those a lot, it's the scariest thing I've ever been through.
Darkness
02-11-2006, 07:01 PM
On the topic of dreaming, has anyone else here experienced sleep paralysis? It's a really frightening condition where your mind is fully aware but your body refuses to function, and it occurs right after (before?) waking up.
I have, usually right when my alarm goes off. It's pretty bad, but it only lasts a quick second.
Flynn
02-11-2006, 07:11 PM
I get them whenever I don't have a few beers before I call it a night. When I'm sober, I concentrate a lot more to get myself to sleep, and find myself half awake when I try to sleep, then start dreaming half awake, and my body freezes. I usually then see frightening images until I snap out of it 10 minutes later. It's scary.
Syncratic
02-11-2006, 07:47 PM
I get them whenever I don't have a few beers before I call it a night. When I'm sober, I concentrate a lot more to get myself to sleep, and find myself half awake when I try to sleep, then start dreaming half awake, and my body freezes. I usually then see frightening images until I snap out of it 10 minutes later. It's scary.
Same here.
Ever have to scream for whatever reason, and your voice is gone or no sound comes out?
Frightens me right outta the dream.
Toaster
02-11-2006, 08:14 PM
I get them whenever I don't have a few beers before I call it a night. When I'm sober, I concentrate a lot more to get myself to sleep, and find myself half awake when I try to sleep, then start dreaming half awake, and my body freezes. I usually then see frightening images until I snap out of it 10 minutes later. It's scary.
Yes! I'll get up sometimes in the middle of the night and see something moving closer to my bed, and I'm totally freaked out but I can't move at all. It's like the dreaming state and the conscious state are mixed together or something.
radioclash177
02-11-2006, 09:00 PM
Are you guys talking about when you, for instance, are fighting somebody and it feels like you have a tenth of your stength as if you are fighting in water or something, kind of the same thing with running too, you are running away and its as if you are in water but still end up ahead of the guy chasing you, thats kind of scary
Dr. Jake Destructo
02-11-2006, 09:34 PM
I once saw the galaxy when I woke up. It was wicked.
Spiritofmosa
02-12-2006, 12:20 AM
i actually enjoy the thrill of sleep paralys and lucid dreaming because the dont come around wheneer you like. sometimes i feel like i'm falling like , and my heart starts beating real quickly and i get this ticklish feeling which makes me giggle.
Adam Jones is GOD
02-12-2006, 05:16 AM
I once saw the galaxy when I woke up. It was wicked.
Until you started to wonder who stole your tent
No Isis or QOTSA quest apperances on the album then. Least that rumour got quashed quicker than the others
Rounder
02-12-2006, 05:23 AM
It's called Night Terrors. When you're half asleep, and you're starting to dream, but half awake and try to move but can't. Yeah, I've had those a lot, it's the scariest thing I've ever been through.
It's called sleep paralysis, and its when you become concious while your body is still alseep. Your brain and body are disconnected. I used to get them really bad all the time, until I figured out if I just concentrate and force my hand or foot to move i could come out of it, after a while I just stopped getting it. In fact, it helped alot knowing what it was and that it wasn't an alien abduction cuz I used to get that sense of a presence in the room pretty bad, which is a major symptom.
Mr_Bounce
02-12-2006, 05:55 AM
****, you guys are scaring me, I'm definitely going to be experiencing "night terrors" or "sleep paralysis" or whatever you want to call it tonight :(
Spiritofmosa
02-12-2006, 07:00 AM
i'm listening to sleepy music (http://www.purevolume.com/bulletsinmadison)
Moses
02-12-2006, 11:34 AM
I finally got Lateralus back from not listening to it for months upon months and it sounds sooo good.
Darkness
02-12-2006, 12:34 PM
It's been near a year that I started my Tool fast... wow..
It hasn't been 100% though, theres been the song here and there.
Damn, I remember that like it was yesterday.
Time really does go faster as you get older.
Lady_Muse
02-12-2006, 12:52 PM
Hi Tool fans. I'm new here. I reckon this is the Tool place. You'll be seeing me around here often.
My friends say girls shouldn't listen to Tool. It's too manly. Fuk that. Tool are amazing and so deap. i really like that kind of stuff.
Moses
02-12-2006, 01:11 PM
No, some day YOU'LL learn that sex is the only thing that matters, when all of sudden your wife turns into an old hag. Something tells me you won't "love" her as much when she's dry pvssy.
edit: excuse this 'licentious' post hahaha
I've banged ugly chicks before, it's not that much different than banging a hot chick.
I wish I could join in on the lucid dreaming talk, but despite efforts over the past month, I have not yet been able to induce lucidity.
:angry:
Dried Muffin Remnants
02-12-2006, 01:18 PM
I've banged ugly chicks before, it's not that much different than banging a hot chick.
:amaze: I'm impressed.
Dr. Jake Destructo
02-12-2006, 01:25 PM
Until you started to wonder who stole your tent
No, I was in my bed, and I woke up, and I saw a concentration of stars out of the corner of my eye. It was probably some kind of optical illusion, but it was still amazing.
Moses
02-12-2006, 01:31 PM
No, I was in my bed, and I woke up, and I saw a concentration of stars out of the corner of my eye. It was probably some kind of optical illusion, but it was still amazing.
Try this, lay down on the grass or somthing at night and focus on one single star for a really long time, it's hypnotic.
Darkness
02-12-2006, 01:41 PM
Damn, I remember that like it was yesterday.
Time really does go faster as you get older.
Yeah, me to.
It really does, and I'm only in grade 11. :upset:
MidnightRider
02-12-2006, 01:45 PM
I've had some really freaky moments with what I guess is called "sleep paralysis." It always happens to me when I fall asleep listening to music. The first time it happened it took me half a day to get rid of that creepy feeling.
Moses
02-12-2006, 01:45 PM
It really does, and I'm only in grade 11. :upset:
Most of us are.
sgrevs
02-12-2006, 02:04 PM
I am too.:wave:
Darkness
02-12-2006, 02:13 PM
Damn! Why'd you have to say something? He was about to kill the thread again! :D
Moses
02-12-2006, 02:18 PM
Damn! Why'd you have to say something? He was about to kill the thread again! :D
I swear, you never get tired of that do you? Don't even think about not replying just to get me to kill the thread again... :angry:
BlindWriting
02-12-2006, 04:13 PM
i'm listening to sleepy music (http://www.purevolume.com/bulletsinmadison)
This band is very good, how did you find out about them?
I downloaded their album and I'm listening to it now. They remind me a little bit of Murder By Death, except more polished, less brooding and without the genre-hopping.
Moses
02-12-2006, 04:34 PM
Okay at the part in Ticks and Leeches where the guitar just kind of fades at about 7:11 theres some growling type vocals in the backround. Can anybody make it out and what the hell is it saying?
bwnstl
02-12-2006, 05:01 PM
Probably just Maynard being unintelligible like usual
Darkness
02-12-2006, 08:42 PM
Why does it say he has 0 posts??
W00t! Adam added me as a friend to myspace. :D
/feels special
Dr. Jake Destructo
02-12-2006, 09:00 PM
What's your myspace?
http://www.myspace.com/drjakedestructo is me.
Darkness
02-12-2006, 09:05 PM
http://www.myspace.com/hewhosoughtfire
I just made it the other day, so it's nothing fancy. I'll add you though, if you want.
Moses
02-12-2006, 09:05 PM
http://www.myspace.com/letmypeopleho
is mine...
and my band's
http://www.myspace.com/spindrift000
Darkness
02-12-2006, 09:13 PM
Holy crap Jake, you have the cast of Seinfeld on yours! That's my favorite show ever!
/Jelous
Spiritofmosa
02-13-2006, 01:58 AM
This band is very good, how did you find out about them?
I downloaded their album and I'm listening to it now. They remind me a little bit of Murder By Death, except more polished, less brooding and without the genre-hopping.
good eh.. i was browsing purevolume. i think they sound like sigur ros and the vocals sound like coldplay.
Futuro
02-13-2006, 02:14 AM
So for my bands first "Ambient" track we are doing a tribute, cover, whatever you want to call it to LAMC. I will upload later to YSI and give the link. I think the tool thread will have a better understanding of what I was trying to accomplish.
Adam Jones is GOD
02-13-2006, 12:33 PM
DVDs out in the UK as of today
If there's that big a delay in release for the album, I will not be happy
repcak
02-13-2006, 12:46 PM
http://www.myspace.com/letmypeopleho
is mine...
and my band's
http://www.myspace.com/spindrift000
does my non-myspace myspace count? www.repcak.tk :p
Artemician
02-13-2006, 01:23 PM
DVDs out in the UK as of today
If there's that big a delay in release for the album, I will not be happy
Ouch.
Here's hoping Tool doesn't screw Britain over.
killerfrop
02-13-2006, 01:50 PM
http://www.rockwerchter.be/rw2006/splash_06.asp
It's now official, Tool is coming to Werchter festival in Belgium :chug:
Esoteric_Creator
02-13-2006, 03:35 PM
http://www.myspace.com/esoteric_creator
Warning!
Those who value their beliefs, and/or their sanity, do not enter link ahead. Watch your head..
misunderstood
02-13-2006, 04:21 PM
Just a little something for those who live in Austria..(repcak :p ):
"Tool have been confirmed as playing the Novarock Festival, which correct me if I’m wrong - is held in Austria. There’s actually a couple of other decent bands on this line-up, including Massive Attack, Placebo and Lagwagon."
omgwtfboogie
02-13-2006, 04:24 PM
So now we can assume they're playing every damn festival ever.
Moses
02-13-2006, 04:36 PM
NP Passenger...
Nu-metal breakdowns ftw.
bwnstl
02-13-2006, 08:25 PM
Pshhh, Deftones? Nu-metal? Pshhhh
Moses
02-13-2006, 10:35 PM
The break down is.
Darkness
02-13-2006, 10:36 PM
I always thought Deftones were pretty nu-metal, but I'm not the hugest fan... what would they be if they aren't nu-metal?
Moses
02-13-2006, 10:40 PM
(Artistic) modern rock.
bwnstl
02-13-2006, 11:09 PM
I'd say alternative metal. I've heard the term Dream Rock applied to them, and I can see where that's coming from because some of their (later) songs are very spacey. I don't know, it's hard to describe.
Moses
02-13-2006, 11:21 PM
Their first album was nu-metal but it was really good too. Their second album had some modern rock songs and some new metal songs. White Pony was really expirimental and has alot of high acclaim to it. Self-Titled had some really good ideas but weren't put together as well. Whoever did the production on Digital Bath on White Pony really knows what they're doing. The drums sound PERFECT.
repcak
02-14-2006, 06:01 AM
Just a little something for those who live in Austria..(repcak :p ):
"Tool have been confirmed as playing the Novarock Festival, which correct me if I’m wrong - is held in Austria. There’s actually a couple of other decent bands on this line-up, including Massive Attack, Placebo and Lagwagon."
NOVAROCK :eek:
noooooo, please not... :upset: i HATE this ****ing festival! its the worst festivals in austria (well, its for me, cause i never liked the line-up).
hm... i hope they will play a single concert or will play at another festival. if not, i will go to novarock, but only to see tool
edit: i just checked out the page and their line-up changed a little bit... they are playing Metal :eek: subway to sally, trivium and even Opeth ... lol
http://www.novarock.at/
thats a surprise, though most of the other bands are crap
Kurrpt
02-14-2006, 07:56 AM
reads last page
/leaves for a few days :lol:
Dude3
02-14-2006, 02:33 PM
I haven't been in this thread for a looong time.
Any new news yet?
JamJar
02-14-2006, 02:41 PM
Heh. I've just been making an electronic version of Reflection with synths and such and as if there's any proper news, if there's any news at all it's Blair talking about irrelevant crap.
repcak
02-14-2006, 02:50 PM
who? tony blair? :lol:
/bad joke
emo=elmow/otheL
02-14-2006, 05:26 PM
Tools playin' Coachella.
IS there any news about a release date more specific than spring? (I saw that on a Lateralus picture disc that I couldn't afford. *sigh*)
A pig in a cage on antibiotics
02-14-2006, 05:39 PM
Well seeing as how tool is playin loads of european festivals, does anyone think they might play the Oxegen festival in Ireland?
Is there anyone else here from Ireland, maybe we can all unite and get on a plane and go to L.A and try findin maynards house in the Arizona desert and get some of his wine and if we can't find that we'll try and position ourselves directly under the sun and try and find Adam and if we can't do that go to the lodge and see if Danny's around and.....ahhh screw it, too much effort!!!!
They'd beter come to Ireland though!! If your readin Maynard, Danny, Justin or Adam come on over, you can play at my house!!
Darkness
02-14-2006, 08:38 PM
Feb. Newsletter is up. Some interesting stuff... and a picture of Danny playing Guitar Hero.
Forget all this Europe crap.
Have they forgotten about the U S of A?
Darkness
02-14-2006, 09:47 PM
Forget all this Europe crap.
Have they forgotten about the U S of A?
I hope so, then they'll have more time for Canada. :)
misunderstood
02-14-2006, 10:00 PM
Forget all this Europe crap.
Have they forgotten about the U S of A?
Yeah, no kidding. Maybe we'll get some small club mini-tour or something before the albums comes out...or maybe that's just me wishful thinking.
omgwtfboogie
02-14-2006, 10:15 PM
Yeah, no kidding. Maybe we'll get some small club mini-tour or something before the albums comes out...or maybe that's just me wishful thinking.
That'd prolly be a California mini-tour. Which would rule.
bwnstl
02-15-2006, 01:20 AM
Forget all this Europe crap.
Have they forgotten about the U S of A?
You don't even understand, last time they were in St. Louis (which was before I was a fan of them so I didn't go) the crowd was apparently bad so they said their not coming back to St. Louis ever again. I'm biting my lip and hoping that they renege on that promise.
Adam Jones is GOD
02-15-2006, 06:46 AM
"I'm guessing that the most enthusiastic Tool fans have probably heard all of the band's previously released material, but when the new record comes out in May, these people should try to constrain themselves from listening to the entire CD in one sitting. Save a couple of tracks (or, say, just track #2) for a month, or a couple of months, or for a year, or a couple of years, and then while everyone's itching for new material, YOU HAVE SOME!,. and now it's only a matter of year or so before the next release!"
Blair says something cool.
Kurrpt
02-15-2006, 07:29 AM
...or you could just NOT loop the CD for 4 months straight
clearvision
02-15-2006, 12:47 PM
Danny's ****?
Adam Jones is GOD
02-15-2006, 12:49 PM
Im guessing someone's ego got a bit hurt after Maynards dick.
Im waiting for Adam's wang next album
BassMasterMike88
02-15-2006, 12:55 PM
...or you could just NOT loop the CD for 4 months straight
I honestly doubt that anyone in this thread has the will to pull that off.
Kurrpt
02-15-2006, 12:58 PM
yea, that will be hard at first. at least for me, ive find other, more challenging guitar peices then AJ guitar work. Not to take anything away from the man, i just like working on technique a bit more then crazy ambient noises i cant reproduce
BassMasterMike88
02-15-2006, 01:03 PM
Its gonna be impossible not to pick it up for me, Justins bass riffs and use of chords on Lateralus were orgasmic. So I'm expecting a whole buffet of great bass lines to try to learn by ear.
Kurrpt
02-15-2006, 01:04 PM
yea, learning by ear WOULD require that amount of attension. Maybe ill try that
Prince of Darkness
02-15-2006, 01:22 PM
Its gonna be impossible not to pick it up for me, Justins bass riffs and use of chords on Lateralus were orgasmic. So I'm expecting a whole buffet of great bass lines to try to learn by ear.
Looking at riffs like Forty Six & 2 and Shism...I mean, what more can the man create?! Justin>Paul, any day of the week.
A pig in a cage on antibiotics
02-15-2006, 01:24 PM
Danny's ****?
Danny's **** = Danny's SOLO?
Could it be? It has the right amount of letters, That would be amazing though, a Danny Carey drum solo.
Anyone think its plausible?
Dried Muffin Remnants
02-15-2006, 01:39 PM
Danny's DIIIIIIIICK Danny's DIIIIIIICK
I bet it's bigger than Maynard's.
Knifeboy
02-15-2006, 01:40 PM
Anyone think its plausible?
Seeing as it wouldn't be the first time he had solo.. then yea
Im waiting for Adam's wang next album
:lol: :lol:
A pig in a cage on antibiotics
02-15-2006, 03:05 PM
Originaly posted byKnifeboy
Seeing as it wouldn't be the first time he had solo.. then yea
I ment a whole song solo like John Bonhams Moby Dick or Tim alexanders Drum and whammola jam, not just a solo break like in 46&2 which I think is what your talking about. (unless you have access to tool songs I havn't heard!!)
Futuro
02-15-2006, 03:06 PM
Danny's DIIIIIIIICK Danny's DIIIIIIICK
I bet it's bigger than Maynard's.
Well he is 6'5, maynard is 4 feet. So naturally. :p
The picture of Danny playing guitar hero made me crack up.
Moses
02-15-2006, 03:07 PM
Well he is 6'5, maynard is 4 feet. So naturally. :p
The picture of Danny playing guitar hero made me crack up.
I'm sure he's not that short...
I'm sure he's not that short...
No hez a mijet.
Moses
02-15-2006, 03:12 PM
Midget's have normal penis sizes.
clearvision
02-15-2006, 03:38 PM
I thought **** stood for gong.
Futuro
02-15-2006, 04:03 PM
I'm sure he's not that short...
Sarcasm on internets. :smash:
I thought **** stood for gong. That big paiste gong is awsome...
Darkness
02-15-2006, 09:21 PM
Rumor has it May 2nd is the release date. I checked, it's a Tuesday. :)
I'm still believing nothing... except that it's in May sometime.
Moses
02-15-2006, 10:18 PM
Sarcasm on internets. :smash:
derrr course I knew that.
Huber
02-15-2006, 11:54 PM
Danny's DIIIIIIIICK Danny's DIIIIIIICK
I bet it's bigger than Maynard's.
Everything about DC is huge.
However, I hope it's solo and not dick.
Otherside
02-16-2006, 06:54 AM
Opeth concert last night was amazing.
thought i'd just in here and say that.
Adam Jones is GOD
02-16-2006, 07:01 AM
Out of interest, what was the setlist? Both times I saw them their sets were radically different
Rounder
02-16-2006, 07:01 AM
Their first album was nu-metal but it was really good too. Their second album had some modern rock songs and some new metal songs. White Pony was really expirimental and has alot of high acclaim to it. Self-Titled had some really good ideas but weren't put together as well. Whoever did the production on Digital Bath on White Pony really knows what they're doing. The drums sound PERFECT.
From what I understood, Maynard produced Pony didn't he?
bwnstl
02-16-2006, 12:48 PM
Opeth concert last night was amazing.
thought i'd just in here and say that.
I hate you.
Futuro
02-16-2006, 12:51 PM
From what I understood, Maynard produced Pony didn't he?
IMO that would make sense. Im not a huge Deftones fan, but White Pony is one of my all time favorite albums.
Out of interest, what was the setlist? Both times I saw them their sets were radically different Nice user title AJIG. :p
Rounder
02-16-2006, 01:00 PM
IMO that would make sense. Im not a huge Deftones fan, but White Pony is one of my all time favorite albums.
Same here, I really like that album, but im not their biggest fan. Great musicianship, I really don't know why I don't like them more.
Prince of Darkness
02-16-2006, 01:04 PM
Why does everyone hate eMOTIVE?
Futuro
02-16-2006, 01:12 PM
Why does everyone hate eMOTIVE?
Im not a big Perfect circle fan anyway. But I went from listening to 13step, Which was really good. Then I bought Emotive and thought it sucked. All the songs are cookie cutting material. The only 2 songs I liked was the remake of When the Levee breaks(Zepplins was still better), And passive I think it is called.
Prince of Darkness
02-16-2006, 01:36 PM
Im not a big Perfect circle fan anyway. But I went from listening to 13step, Which was really good. Then I bought Emotive and thought it sucked. All the songs are cookie cutting material. The only 2 songs I liked was the remake of When the Levee breaks(Zepplins was still better), And passive I think it is called.
But the mistake everyone made was going into the album expecting a Third Album. I went in expecting a cover album. It really helps. I mean, I love that album.
Futuro
02-16-2006, 01:39 PM
But the mistake everyone made was going into the album expecting a Third Album. I went in expecting a cover album. It really helps. I mean, I love that album. Different opinions. I dont want to have to be saying to myself "Ok this is a cover album" To find something enjoyable. I still wouldnt, IMO That album was garbage. Some songs are just flat out horrible (Bodies like sheep, Gimmie, Lets have a war)
I just can not listen to that album.
Prince of Darkness
02-16-2006, 01:47 PM
Different opinions. I dont want to have to be saying to myself "Ok this is a cover album" To find something enjoyable. I still wouldnt, IMO That album was garbage. Some songs are just flat out horrible (Bodies like sheep, Gimmie, Lets have a war)
I just can not listen to that album.
agree to disagree:chug:
Rounder
02-16-2006, 04:09 PM
Why does everyone hate eMOTIVE?
Well. I heard the cover of Imagine and decided right there i would not be purchasing that album.
Sleeper
02-16-2006, 04:26 PM
Why does everyone hate eMOTIVE?
When i first got Emotive, i was really dissapointed. But after listening to it a few more times, it's a really creative and mellow album to relax too. My favorite track from that album at the moment is When The Levee Breaks.
Sleeper
02-16-2006, 04:29 PM
Different opinions. I dont want to have to be saying to myself "Ok this is a cover album" To find something enjoyable. I still wouldnt, IMO That album was garbage. Some songs are just flat out horrible (Bodies like sheep, Gimmie, Lets have a war)
I just can not listen to that album.
I'll agree with you there, i have no idea what they were thinking when they did Bodies like sheep.
Moses
02-16-2006, 05:40 PM
From what I understood, Maynard produced Pony didn't he?
I think he just helped out with it, because he was trying to help give Chino an idea of how to sing the parts on Passenger and they ended up just using his track.
Spiritofmosa
02-16-2006, 08:16 PM
Why does everyone hate eMOTIVE?
no that the album sucks of anything.. but i cant help but feeling a little cheated because of the album cover and how they promoted emotive through the music video and constatine the movie... the way they promoted the album gives people a different view of how the whole album actually sounds like
Sleeper
02-16-2006, 08:51 PM
no that the album sucks of anything.. but i cant help but feeling a little cheated because of the album cover and how they promoted emotive through the music video and constatine the movie... the way they promoted the album gives people a different view of how the whole album actually sounds like
I somewhat agree with Emotive being promoted through Passive. It was a kick in the teeth when half of the album was Electronica/Ambient sounding, but IMO a very creative/artsy album.
Rounder
02-16-2006, 09:02 PM
I think he just helped out with it, because he was trying to help give Chino an idea of how to sing the parts on Passenger and they ended up just using his track.
You're right Pony was produced by Terry Date.
Maynard had absoluetely nothing to do with the production of White Pony.
Moses
02-16-2006, 10:43 PM
That's right, Terry Date also produced Catch Without Arms by dredg. The man is truly great at what he does.
Futuro
02-17-2006, 12:22 AM
That's right, Terry Date also produced Catch Without Arms by dredg. The man is truly great at what he does. Dredge are amazing. I only have Catch without arms. But It is great. I like the piano drumming :p
Moses
02-17-2006, 12:35 AM
Dredge are amazing. I only have Catch without arms. But It is great. I like the piano drumming :p
That's just their take on pop songs. You should hear the real stuff. El Cielo is a masterpeice.
Dude3
02-17-2006, 02:54 PM
Since a lot fo you guys are fans....ont the Radiohead albums O.K. Computer and The Bends, are there any songs that has lyrics that deal with, concern, or have anything to do about death? I have a song interpretation to do for school, and I would like to get a sogn off one of these albums. The thing is, it has to do with something about death.
So, do any songs off those albums apply?
Since a lot fo you guys are fans....ont the Radiohead albums O.K. Computer and The Bends, are there any songs that has lyrics that deal with, concern, or have anything to do about death? I have a song interpretation to do for school, and I would like to get a sogn off one of these albums. The thing is, it has to do with something about death.
So, do any songs off those albums apply?
Street Spirit, The Tourist etc.
Most songs on those albums deal with a sense of alienation that can easily be compared to death.
The obvious choice is Street Spirit, possibly one of the most beautiful songs ever written.
Sleeper
02-17-2006, 03:08 PM
That's just their take on pop songs. You should hear the real stuff. El Cielo is a masterpeice.
Speaking of El Cielo, have you got a chance to send me that?
Futuro
02-17-2006, 11:55 PM
I still have yet to finish this, Im not exactly the best guitar player, And There is going to be a subtle guitar track over this. The last ringbefore the big haitus Someone will pick up the phone and start a dialouge, That has yet to be recorded, basically because I dont like the sound of my voice.
Um, This is only a transition piece between 2 songs (Which are still being worked on) I thought you guys might like it, But probably not heh.
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1G4M2I85NVT8912LYNNBY603YR
Moses
02-17-2006, 11:57 PM
Speaking of El Cielo, have you got a chance to send me that?
The friggin thing never uploaded. My connection got broken over night so I'll do it tonight hoping it works. I'll send it in the morning.
Sleeper
02-18-2006, 12:04 AM
The friggin thing never uploaded. My connection got broken over night so I'll do it tonight hoping it works. I'll send it in the morning.
Thats cool man, thanks again.
Sleeper
02-18-2006, 12:07 AM
I still have yet to finish this, Im not exactly the best guitar player, And There is going to be a subtle guitar track over this. The last ringbefore the big haitus Someone will pick up the phone and start a dialouge, That has yet to be recorded, basically because I dont like the sound of my voice.
Um, This is only a transition piece between 2 songs (Which are still being worked on) I thought you guys might like it, But probably not heh.
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1G4M2I85NVT8912LYNNBY603YR
Wow, that was pretty frickin' good. What was that for, it was pretty eerie and i liked the synth beat you had in there. The sound bytes are pretty cool also.
Futuro
02-18-2006, 12:20 AM
Wow, that was pretty frickin' good. What was that for, it was pretty eerie and i liked the synth beat you had in there. The sound bytes are pretty cool also.
Cool, Im surprised someone actually downloaded it. It is going on a cd, Just for transitional purposes. I have always been a big fan of Dark ambient music. The drum beat is actually me hitting an up right bass drum with drum sticks, and a 15 inch piece of sheet metal (The bass drum is looped, the Sheet metal is not) I made most of the sounds that I looped out of wierd noises(Closing a door then expanding it 500 times, Raising the pitch etc) and a abstract style recording process I learned from a friend.
Sleeper
02-18-2006, 01:09 AM
Cool, Im surprised someone actually downloaded it. It is going on a cd, Just for transitional purposes. I have always been a big fan of Dark ambient music. The drum beat is actually me hitting an up right bass drum with drum sticks, and a 15 inch piece of sheet metal (The bass drum is looped, the Sheet metal is not) I made most of the sounds that I looped out of wierd noises(Closing a door then expanding it 500 times, Raising the pitch etc) and a abstract style recording process I learned from a friend.
Ambient music is really fun to play. I'm taken back by the way you have made the sounds, i would certainly listen to whatever cd it's going to be on. Keep up the good work dude.
jacobees
02-18-2006, 01:13 AM
Dose anybody know anything about when Tool is touring australia? I heard that they were coming out this year but i think its just a rumour. If anyone has any information let me know please.
G_Mac07
02-18-2006, 01:23 AM
Tool haven't announced anything about performing in Australia, and I doubt that they will any time soon. I read something a while ago about a couple of the bands members coming here to do some promo stuff, but don't expect much. I don't anyway.
Sleeper
02-18-2006, 01:24 AM
Pretty much everything at the moment is up in the air, all we can do is wait and see.
Futuro
02-18-2006, 01:27 AM
Ambient music is really fun to play. I'm taken back by the way you have made the sounds, i would certainly listen to whatever cd it's going to be on. Keep up the good work dude.
Heh thanks man :) That made my day. Most people who have heard it hated it. Good to hear something posotive once and a while :D
Moses
02-18-2006, 10:18 AM
Thats cool man, thanks again.
Damn, I think I have to restart the uploads. Don't worry, you'll get it soon.
I'm doing more than one so I can put it in the mailing list.
I listened to the track. The only thing I didn't like is how the Art Bell show was really long. I think if it's a transitional song it should be shorter but that's just me. I liked the ambient stuff though, that was cool.
Futuro
02-18-2006, 12:23 PM
Damn, I think I have to restart the uploads. Don't worry, you'll get it soon.
I'm doing more than one so I can put it in the mailing list.
I listened to the track. The only thing I didn't like is how the Art Bell show was really long. I think if it's a transitional song it should be shorter but that's just me. I liked the ambient stuff though, that was cool.Ok thanks for the input, Maybe I will cut down some of the begining. I cant cut down the middle section as the dialouge will not fit. Thanks for listening too. :)
Futuro
02-19-2006, 11:17 PM
Finally heard those Alice in chains songs with maynard. Pretty good. To me it sounded like maynard had hard time hitting some of the lower notes. <Shrug> Still hecka good though ;)
Opinions?
EDIT: Just finished Man in the box. WOW!
omgwtfboogie
02-20-2006, 02:00 PM
Yeah, the live "Man in the Box" with Maynard is my favorite of that bunch.
centrum
02-20-2006, 02:20 PM
http://toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=36481
New title and track list? hmm
Knifeboy
02-20-2006, 03:03 PM
http://toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=36481
New title and track list? hmm
So fake it's not even funny
Futuro
02-20-2006, 04:16 PM
Heh chuckled at it. Real cheesy names. Sounds like someone was trying to make up werd names that are somewhat relevant.
heavy metal kid
02-20-2006, 05:07 PM
So, Tool is playing at the coachella art and music festival on April 30th, i'm planning to go but it's a bit expensive($ 85).
Now, i know Tool is planning to release a new album this year, so: Should i wait till they make a tour by themselves and buy cheaper tickets, or should i buy the coachella ones?
I also don't know if their normal shows are for all ages.
Adam Jones is GOD
02-20-2006, 07:06 PM
I would get Coachella tickets, as Mogwai are also on that bill, and you should make it your duty to see them while they're in the US.
They still havent announced any UK festivals though :(
I'm seeing Mogwai on March 24, I believe. I'm extremely excited about that. I'll probably never see Tool.
Futuro
02-20-2006, 08:54 PM
Collide featuring Danny Carey on drums.
EDIT crap I keep forgetting it is illegal. Wanna post your emails?
Turkish
02-20-2006, 09:09 PM
So, Tool is playing at the coachella art and music festival on April 30th, i'm planning to go but it's a bit expensive($ 85).
Now, i know Tool is planning to release a new album this year, so: Should i wait till they make a tour by themselves and buy cheaper tickets, or should i buy the coachella ones?
I also don't know if their normal shows are for all ages.
If you're going to Coachella, I'll see you there...being as I have my tickets!!
:D
YouGottaBeCrazy
02-20-2006, 10:24 PM
Toolnavy going slow for anyone else?
Anyway, over there, the newest album rumor, Aldaraia, is being shown to atleast be the closest to the real thing, if it's fake. The person who posted them, if he made them up, actually spent time researching for those titles. Plus they have other evidence to show that that track list is for real. IDK, i like to wait for blair's updates. Just to know for sure.
nowitzki
02-21-2006, 03:22 AM
Tool apparently to be confirmed for Download!:
http://www.efestivals.co.uk/festivals/lineups.php
Hell yeah! I'm so pleased about this.
Hey guys, just for any of the aussies that are unaware, the Schism/Parabola DVD's are in JB now if ya bear one, also, on the cover it says "Look out for a new release in Spring '06".....:eek:
Adam Jones is GOD
02-21-2006, 05:56 AM
Tool apparently to be confirmed for Download!:
http://www.efestivals.co.uk/festivals/lineups.php
Hell yeah! I'm so pleased about this.
That is a long shot rumour im afraid. Plus with the way the lineup is going, Tool would be the one band worth seeing.
The Sunday at Reading looks a much stronger bet
Knifeboy
02-21-2006, 06:11 AM
Toolnavy going slow for anyone else?
Anyway, over there, the newest album rumor, Aldaraia, is being shown to atleast be the closest to the real thing, if it's fake. The person who posted them, if he made them up, actually spent time researching for those titles. Plus they have other evidence to show that that track list is for real. IDK, i like to wait for blair's updates. Just to know for sure.
I bet you 50 imaginary bucks that it's fake
G_Mac07
02-21-2006, 07:43 AM
Don't know if you guys have seen this or not, because I rarely look in here anymore. I quoted the entire thing because it's from one of those sites that you have to register for before you can see anything. I haven't ever read it myself, because I don't want to have any preconceptions when I first hear the new material, so this might also be bollocks. I can't guarantee it, but I thought I'd share anyway.
The TOOL Story Marches On
From Andy King, TotalRock… New Album playback at 10, Golborne Road, London W10 - February 20th 2006... 4pm and 7.30pm
There is something delightfully Toolian about staging a series of European album press/radio playback and ‘meet-the-new-Record-Company’ dates whilst not only not revealing the name of said new album but also keeping all the track titles themselves firmly under wraps.
For your roving Tool reporter, this presents two particular difficulties – firstly it makes accurate reviewing a task almost as hazardous as Quail shooting whilst under the influence (perish the thought that anyone could even contemplate such foolishness) and secondly it prompts momentary, and forgivable, cynicism along the lines of ‘They’re ‘avin’ a larff! This is just an elaborate, fake decoy album!’. Oh ****, there I go with those hunting expressions again.
Today (and I use the word entirely accurately - as my Tool obsession squirts into me such blind courage as to prompt me to lurk, contrary to Record Company wishes, in the shadows for 90 minutes - so as to catch both the 4pm and 7.30pm playbacks) - today, the Record Company has displayed a remarkable degree of Tool-savvy by booking an unheard of pub-for-bohemians in West London’s debatably fashionable and trendy (or downright dangerous – unless, like me, you have at least two layers of hoodies on top of your baseball hat) W10 area. 10, Golbourne Road is at the foot of one of London’s once most notorious and scary tower blocks – Erno Goldfinger’s (not to mention The Clash’s) Trellick Tower – now perversely, and miraculously, transmogrified into one of the City’s most desirable residences. It sez ‘ere.
It’s a joy – in this day and age and with such a multi-million selling global mega-band (yes, it really is true, fans!) – to immediately bump into ¾ of the band casually swigging beer from bottles (or, somewhat surprisingly, Starbucks from a paper cup in Maynard’s case) and chatting amiably with the assembled mid-afternoon gathering of hacks. It’s always a joy to meet a man so much ‘his own man’ and Maynard, as usual, manages to take such an expression to dizzy new heights. As inscrutable as the bastard offspring of Chairman Mao and Wallace & Gromit’s Were Rabbit (slightly caught in the headlights of my immediate and presumptuous ‘hail fellow well met’ self-introduction) Maynard professes to ‘feeling a little jet-lagged’ and at once hops off to safer environs. Meanwhile big haired Danny and Justin look, for all the world, like a brace of goddamn hippies from the Bong Shop down the road. As has been revealed – Adam has remained in LA ‘directing the video’.
After a 30 minute delay in proceedings – caused by a tardy and self-important bunch of hacks creeping out of some rank corner of the evil EMAP Empire (they’re all Borgs, we suspect) the Anonymous Playback of The Nameless Songs commences… ‘probably nearly in their Final Running Order’, we are told. Readers will, hopefully, forgive any inaccuracies in reportage. On first listen I surmised this was an 9 track album, managing to squeeze this figure up to 10 on second hearing, whilst having confirmation from the band that it was, in fact an 11 track album. (They thought).
Queens Of The Stone Age, The Melvins, Turbonegro, Satyricon, Weezer and Hole. Hmmm... Joe Baresi’s CV might not be an immediate one to catch the attention whilst puzzling over a new Producer for a band such as our heroes. But then, Tool never have been noted for the obvious, the easier, softer way. The band dynamic IS different on this work. But it’s a challenging difference – perhaps no great surprise for a band which often borders on the recalcitrant. As might have been expected from a ‘guitar-oriented’ knob twiddler– the guitars are very much to the fore. Perhaps more so than on any work since Opiate. And there are other notables – but more of those later. What we have here with The Album With No Name (rather a good title, boys… why not go for it? Surely it’s not too late?) is yet another milestone in the journey of one of the most innovative of rock bands of the last 30 years. It’s a Rollercoaster. It’s difficult (‘Hurrah!’ I hear you yell!). It’s at points dense, frustrating and impenetrable (‘Wahaay!’). On occasion it provides the band’s most commercial work to date. At worst, it heavily borrows hooks and snippets from, mainly, the Lateralus album. At best, it’s soaring and stunning and staggering – an exercise in aural, no sensory, exploration. In short, it’s the new Tool album and it’s f@!# great…
Track 1 (7min 3sec). Mesmeric start. Hypnotic beat. Jagged, angular off beats. Familiar trancey passages punctuated by a guitar part reminiscent of an older Tool track. Tribal drum beats f@!# with a lovely melody and climax with Maynard’s vocals. I am going to cry.
Track 2 (7min 12sec) Melodic intro with almost balladic vocals from Maynard. Lighter feel (almost, dare I say it, APC-tinged) but not for long. Danny gets stronger – Baresi releases our tubthumper and the feel gets much heavier into ‘chugga chugga’ off beats. Then – here’s some unusual guitar work. Man, it’s almost Hendix-like! Then back into a heavy tribal groove. I fight off the urge to masturbate furiously.
Track 3/4 (This is either one 17 minute monster or two tracks – of 6min 20sec and 10min 26sec – only the Gods Of The Stinkfist know the answer). Whichever it is – DO NOT SMOKE THE WEED WHILST LISTENING TO IT! Starting with Buddhist temple-flavoured gong tweaking the collective nipples of Kraftwerk, a deep sphincter-rumbling bass and om chanting might recall ‘Parabol’. After 3 minutes of this nerve-wracking niceness, all Hell breaks loose with mega-heavy riffdom before slipping back into spaciness after 30 seconds. Like an epileptic convulsion in a night of deep sleep. Hawkwind does Greensleeves whilst Pink Floys look on. The Record Company people are starting to look nervous and uncomfortable as if they have seldom HEARD anything so strange and worrying. What the f@!# is this? Let me outta here! I need to go snuggle the Radio One Playlist! Suddenly it’s a crazed sea shanty for whacked-out space travelers. ‘You’re the only one who can hold your head up high. It’s my time now… my time now… give me my… give me my…’ duets Maynard with himself. Danny fights free of the evil clutches of Dr Baresi and goes off on one. Adam’s guitar recalls something off Lateralus again. It’s Triad, I think, but it’s almost impossible to identify one riff whilst another song goes on. The musical equivalent of rubbing one’s head and tummy simultaneously in different directions. They’re doing this on purpose to f@!# with our heads. Bastards! Returns to full-on rhythmic Toolishness to end. No it isn’t the end. It doesn’t end like any other song ends. Tool never ends. I’m losing it. Therap me now, please.
Track 5 (Probably. 6min 11 sec definitely). Oooooooh. This is THE one. Ya know what, pluggers? Radio might even go for this! Maynard’s vocals at the start are quite extraordinary. Place equal parts of Chris De Burgh, Tiny Tim and Bilal The Muezzin in a blender and run for your life. Easily the most commercial track to date. In fact, easily the most commercial track Tool have EVER done. That guitar is waaay strong again. Did Adam bribe Baresi? This is still twisted. It’s hard but commercial. The end spells a relief as climactic as a boil bursting. I go ‘Yessssss’ and the whole room of cool jouros looks round at me as if I’m a Bateman cartoon ‘The Man Who Ordered A Pork Sandwich In Blooms’. This is a SERIOUSLY awesome track. Just you mark my words.
Track 6 (1min). In which Maynard becomes a Native American for no good reason. Strange, but we like a bit of strangeness.
Track 7 (Maybe. Could be two medium length tracks and a terribly short one, too. I’m now losing the will to live with the stopwatch. It’s 14min 45sec of music, whatever). Guitars to the fore again. One long note with almost blues-like, overlaid note progressions. f@!# me, it’s House Of The Rising Sun cut with Ketamine. There are unsettling whispers and talking. Is this a bad trip or a psychiatry session? Come to think of it, is there a difference? ‘How Are You Today?’… ‘Tell Me Everything’ then THWACK! Into such a breathtakingly slappy, powerful riff kick that I’m actually physically winded for a nanosecond. Demonic, growling, rap noise over rhythmic heavy heavy groove. Forget the Were Rabbit jibe. This is a f@!# full-on, nasty, shaven headed WEREWOLF. A lightbulb goes mental in the room. The Record Company almost lose all cool and run for it. I damn nearly join them but now I AM crying. I am gulping back wracking sobs at the sheer Toolishness of this monstrous, magnificent track. This is the real deal. Again snippets from Lateralus. You ARE playing with us. You ARE! This is Tool’s equivalent of ‘spot the Hitchcock in the Hitchcock film’! But I don’t care. It’s like The Best Of Tool in one song. The Bomb. It ends like the violent end of a violent life. And then it ends again. Unless that’s another track, of course….
G_Mac07
02-21-2006, 07:44 AM
Track 8 (6min 44sec). Odd noises. Sea shore meets ironworks. Ever see the cartoon meisterwerk ‘Spirited Away’? You MUST! In it there is a character called Kamajii The Boiler Keeper who has 6 arms and an army of small black coals. This sound is similar. Soon joined by elastic bass and drum twangling over multi-layered Maynard whisperings and chanted vox. Shades of Pink Floyd again. Shades of the more ‘moody’ Lateralus tracks again. Reflection. Disposition. Tribal and hypnotic.
Track 9 (9min 04sec. I think). Melodic, slow, hypnotic. Almost balladic. Wall of Sound build-up. Danny does some Bamboo pole-type drumming into big riffage. Big, big sound. Tool at their weightiest. It’s almost Chinese at the end. I can think of worse things to be like. Perhaps the boys have their eyes on the World’s fastest developing market?
Track 10 (OK it’s 11 but I’m f@!# if I can work out how we got here). The walk out track (their description not mine). Oddness. The Noodles of Satan.
And that’s it. First playback and Maynard bids us farewell. ‘Hope you enjoyed it. If you didn’t we could put on a little Green Day for you?’. Second playback and Justin apologises for not being The Arctic Monkeys. We smoodge and chatter. We remember that Danny is actually the World’s nicest (and tallest) man. If only I could feel as comfy in my skin as he does. That’s it – go on, compare my insides with his outsides. We rejoice in the fact that ¼ of Tool is, in fact, English. We clamber onto our pushbike past legions of hoodies whilst the Tool Carnival ups and offs to Amsterdam. f@!# knows where THAT playback will take place but I have a shrewd idea or two…
Andy King - http://www.TotalRock.com - 20/2/2006
That's the rest of it, it went over the character limit.
deadinholywood
02-21-2006, 07:59 AM
^ I want to hear this NOW
I read something a while ago about a couple of the bands members coming here to do some promo stuff, but don't expect much. I don't anyway.
As far as i can remember some of the band are visiting melbourne and sydney in March to do promo work/talk to radio stations/tease us.
nowitzki
02-21-2006, 08:30 AM
Wow, I just can't wait to hear it.
That is a long shot rumour im afraid. Plus with the way the lineup is going, Tool would be the one band worth seeing.
The Sunday at Reading looks a much stronger bet
That website is usually quite reliable, and seeing as it says "to be confirmed", that means it must be pretty certain, unless there's been a big mistake.
Darkness
02-21-2006, 09:43 AM
Wow... that's awesome.
I fight off the urge to masturbate furiously.
I like the sound of that! :lol:
Futuro
02-21-2006, 12:04 PM
Good job Gmac! That looks great! Oh man Im excited about this!
Adam Jones is GOD
02-21-2006, 12:35 PM
Good find G man (I feel a little inferior not finding this out when it took place on my own back porch).
Lots of positives, especially the mention of guitar taking center stage more.
And if a UK mag says a song could be radio friendly, it has to be. Fair to say this has added to my already excited mood
Shadius
02-21-2006, 12:56 PM
I'm excited. I'm glad to know this sounds to be progressive as ever, whilst having a great potential single-worthy track, the Stinkfist or Parabola (Schism?) of the album. Excellent, I expect nothing less.
Can't wait now.
JamJar
02-21-2006, 02:11 PM
That sounds absolutely amazing... must hear new album NOW!