Tool

[Futuro]

Marshall- That still sounds cool, heh. How long do you get to play for, and what did the guy who won perform? They gave me an extra minute because of all my crappy luck, so I got 4 in total. The dude that one was just flat out better than me. Him and I could play the same groove, and his could sound 1000 times better, just from his dynamics alone(Something that takes years to perfect) And his control was unreal! He started going through the rudiments at an insane tempo while flamming every 3 note of each rudiment :O Pretty crazy stuff.

Im still happy I made it this far. They had 10 drummer from all of florida, and I got to represent the Tampa store.... Me = Happy haha

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I have McAfee Virus-scan, Spy Doctor, and I recently acquired Ad-Aware. Reccomend me something if you have any other ideas. :p

[Darkness]

I've had good succsess with Spybot Search & Destroy. Also, if your really really desperate, you could download a trail version of Spy Sweeper, which is the best one I've come across, but you can only get the trail version, but it'll clean you up good.

[Spiritofmosa]

Whoa, I didn't relise I was sending to everybody... I better start uploading...

The file is 21.8 MBs.
thanks

[Kage]

I have McAfee Virus-scan, Spy Doctor, and I recently acquired Ad-Aware. Reccomend me something if you have any other ideas. :p
Ad-Aware is all you need.

Ahhh, this weather! It's frigid. I've been for this all year. I love it.

[Spiritofmosa]

haha the vid is hilarous, maynard was like humping the fan.

[sol]

it just proves that its the little guys you dont want to **** with.

[bjjcloud]

haha i dont neg rep dude...

and like i said, if you dont like the topic of discussion, bounce to another thread, ignore it, or try to change it.

which is exactly what he was trying to do. i hope you're retarded.

[Kurrpt]

which is exactly what he was trying to do. i hope you're retarded.



hahaha



stfu

[Futuro]

Theres alot of people that need to lurk for a while. I thought I was the shittiest poster till recent people have proved me wrong <SHRUG>

Ahhh, this weather! It's frigid. I've been for this all year. I love it. It just started cooling down here in Florida...It's still way too hot though :(

[youll_remember_me]

is anybody there rite now? i need to know the order of the alternative playlist to lateralus.....serisouly, i cant find it. there are way too many posts......but i remember reading it before

[Darkness]

http://aiden.vzz.net/lateralus/index.html

Check this site out.

[Syncratic]

So, I have my account back.

Any news?

[Darkness]

Nope, but Schism DVD is out the 20th of December, I don't know if you know that or not.

[Syncratic]

Same old news to me.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Theres alot of people that need to lurk for a while.

Im doing my part :cool:

[Futuro]

Im doing my part Too much so man. Last time I saw you in here was on your birthday lol.

[Spiritofmosa]

http://aiden.vzz.net/lateralus/index.html

Check this site out.
thats just too deep

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=20913840&blogID=62393256&Mytoken=5d63b88c-7133-4914-8a81-730031a0ec7c

New Adam Jones blog. Interesting pictures included.

[Darkness]

That just takes me to the signup page... can I have a direct link to his main page? I don't remember how I got around this problem last time...

[One Groovin Clown]

That just takes me to the signup page... can I have a direct link to his main page? I don't remember how I got around this problem last time...

you could just sign up.

[bwnstl]

http://aiden.vzz.net/lateralus/index.html

Check this site out.

Crap like this are the reason Tool fans have such a bad name.

[repcak]

i find it quite interesting; i don't think its too deep, and i don't think its crap

[clearvision]

Im doing my part :cool:

Ah-men brotha'.

When the album leaks i'll be back up in this place like old times.

robertchapman88@gmail.com

If you're mailing some shizz.

Cheers

[Mother_Of_Abominations]

Whoa, I didn't relise I was sending to everybody... I better start uploading...

The file is 21.8 MBs.
I also desire this. marilynmanson216@sbcglobal.net is my e-mail.

[Darkness]

Blast... I don't have the link anymore...

[something erotic]

Let's all have a round for Justin's 34th birthday. :chug:

[Kage]

Im doing my part :cool:

Ah-men brotha'.
:(.

[Darkness]

Let's all have a round for Justin's 34th birthday. :chug:
Thats today? Awesome. :chug:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=20913840&Mytoken=13CDF25D-F0B6-5453-BAD9152BA8D2B36325401625

Hopefully that can get you to Adam's profile. Click on his most recent blog entry to see the pictures and such.

[Darkness]

http://myspace.com/20913840 was the link I was looking for, but thanks anyway.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Last night, I saw the music video for Sober for the first time. Holy crap. WICKED!

After that, I watched Salad Fingers, and if you've seen that, the two are somewhat akin in terms of crypticness. :p

[Spinal Pap]

Yeah salad fingers is pretty weird. It freaks my little brother out.:)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

If you're not freaked out by it, you should probably see some kind of psychiatrist.

[Kage]

I love the one where he accidentally cooks the guy in his oven.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah, we watched that one.

"Smells like the fish is about done."

:-/ Ew.

[Darkness]

I'm listening to Ænima... and yesterday, while playing Warcraft III with a friend, I listened to Lateralus... :upset: I'm not a bad person, right?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Wait, are you still on your Tool fast?

[Darkness]

Yeah... its been like, half a year now... I needed some relief. I think its worked though, this feels so good to listen to these albums again... so many memories...

[Knifeboy]

Hey Jake, what makes you think the Eulogy scream is looped?.. Doesn't sound like it to me, and would be a bit silly to loop it when it isn't that long

[clearvision]

http://myspace.com/20913840 was the link I was looking for, but thanks anyway.

Check the Parabola link on his myspace. :eek:. (watch the video, it's just amazing)

[Darkness]

Hey Jake, what makes you think the Eulogy scream is looped?.. Doesn't sound like it to me, and would be a bit silly to loop it when it isn't that long
When did he say that? :confused: I highly doubt thats looped, if anything, The Grudge would be the one with the looping (though I doubt that to..).

Check the Parabola link on his myspace. :eek:. (watch the video, it's just amazing)
I love that thing under "Adams Interests" with the whole Lateralus eye thing, and you hold it over a certain spot and the Ænima spashly thing comes up.

[Otherside]

He said it was either looped or drenched in echo, probably the second one.


In other news: 4,000 posts :cool:

Edit: And back to 3,999 because of deleted threadz :\

[PinkFreud]

When did he say that? :confused: I highly doubt thats looped, if anything, The Grudge would be the one with the looping (though I doubt that to..).
he said it in the vocalists comp thread in response to me saying that the grudge scream was looped.

it still sounds like it me, but i could be wrong.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Hey Jake, what makes you think the Eulogy scream is looped?.. Doesn't sound like it to me, and would be a bit silly to loop it when it isn't that long


In parantheses I said something like "Perhaps he just slathered it in some echo/reverb effect." I doubt it's actually a loop, but there's some effect that lengthens it a few seconds.

Either way, PinkFreud was pretty out of line to say what he said in the first place. (BASTARD! :p)

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415263&page=3

[PinkFreud]

i'll admit that i jumped without checking any sources, just going on what i thought from listening to it, and from what i believe/d i had heard elsewhere.

the backlash from my comment was pretty severe and made me regret it.

[Knifeboy]

Haha, I wasn't trying to give any form of backlash or anything.. It was just a sarcastic post based on me hearing about Maynard holding the note for 32 seconds in some Bootleg (in the "longest scream" thread, that was on here a long time ago)

[paganman7]

I've just noticed that both Sam Goody and Amazon have two separate DVDs listed for the December 20th release: Schism AND Parabola.

Does this mean that each DVD only has the corresponding video, or is this two different packaging for each DVD? Both are the same price ($9.98).

I thought this release was pathetic with both videos on the same disk, if there is now only one video per disk, my opinion of the Tool commercial machine would be greatly diminished.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

"We bathe in expensive plum sauce because our fanbase will pay us anything"

-81st Chakra

It's damn true too. :upset:

[Darkness]

"We bathe in expensive plum sauce because our fanbase will pay us anything"

-81st Chakra

It's damn true too. :upset:
Thats what I said when I first heard that. I'd buy both of those DVDs, even if they were 20 bucks each. :upset:

[Toaster]

When did he say that? :confused: I highly doubt thats looped, if anything, The Grudge would be the one with the looping (though I doubt that to..).




I think you can actually hear the looping on The Grudge. At one point his scream gets slightly lower in volume, as if it starts again. This could just be the recording though, I know a guy who says he screams longer live.

[Darkness]

Yeah I've seen Maynard do that live to, (bootlegs) and I wouldn't be surprised if it was real in the recording, but I also wouldn't if it was fake. At around 7 seconds into the scream you can hear him start to loose then note then bring it back up again... so I donno.

Who cares, Maynard is Gawd. :p

[PinkFreud]

ah, support.

it just sounds like it to me. ive also heard people say that he does it longer, but that doesnt mean that they still didnt loop it for the album.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Is anyone good with identifying pitches? If you are, tell me what note he is 'singing,' and I'll try to isolate it in Audacity. This will help me figure out if it's looped or not.

[Darkness]

Just hold a guitar tuner up to the speaker while its playing.

:lol:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

But then you pick up the guitar and the drums. :lol:

Whatever, It doesn't matter that much to me. If he can do it live, I've believe he did it on the album. :shrug:

[Futuro]

4th Octave D.....

[Syncratic]

I think he can hold the scream.....he seems that versatile.

[YDload]

4th Octave D.....

Ahahaha, you're kidding right? Jeez, everything about Tool is in the key of D.

[Futuro]

Ahahaha, you're kidding right? Jeez, everything about Tool is in the key of D. Yeah it was a joke Lmao :) The tone of screams is to hard to decipher note wise.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Except for a few songs that are in E, like Ticks and Leeches, Part of Me..I'm sure there are others, but those are the only 2 that I can think of off the top of my head.

But yeah, Tool does play in D quite often. :p

[Shadius]

Ahahaha, you're kidding right? Jeez, everything about Tool is in the key of D.

Except the songs that arn't in drop D.

I'm sure Parabola and Prison Sex arn't in the key of D?

[YDload]

Those songs are an exception, I say MOST of them are in D.

[PinkFreud]

I think he can hold the scream.....he seems that versatile.
that has nothing to do with versatility though. it has to do with power and tone, seeing as how it stays fairly constant. i dont doubt that he can do it, but the album version sounds looped to me.

[Toaster]

Is anyone good with identifying pitches? If you are, tell me what note he is 'singing,' and I'll try to isolate it in Audacity. This will help me figure out if it's looped or not.

It's a G#, the flatted fifth of D minor.

[Darkness]

I'm starting to doubt its looped. Listen really carefully. I you can hear him start to struggle a bit, and you can really hear his throat opening up.

[Toaster]

I just did, heh. At 7:11, right when the band changes measures it sounds to me like his scream stops for a fraction of a second. It's almost inaudible. Again, it could be the recording, because even if it isn't looped it's not too astounding.

[Otherside]

I'm sure the studio version is touched up abit, but I really don't thin it's looped...

[Darkness]

I just did, heh. At 7:11, right when the band changes measures it sounds to me like his scream stops for a fraction of a second. It's almost inaudible. Again, it could be the recording, because even if it isn't looped it's not too astounding.
I don't hear that... at all. :confused:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Those songs are an exception, I say MOST of them are in D.

Actually, I think most Tool songs are in the key of D Minor.

[Toaster]

I don't hear that... at all. :confused:

No? Try listening to it on a cd player, with earbuds. Maybe I'm imagining it.

[Darkness]

No? Try listening to it on a cd player, with earbuds. Maybe I'm imagining it.
Wait wait. It almost sounds like... right at 7:11, it gets louder. Is that what you ment?

[Toaster]

Well, not so much gets louder, but there's a brief lessening in volume in Maynard's scream. It's like the drums and music get louder to mask his vocals getting softer for that brief moment.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Actually, I think most Tool songs are in the key of D Minor.

Technically, it's D major. It's just in the Dorian mode(Which is a major mode) the majority of the time, which sounds like a minor key.

:n3rd:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Technically, it's D major. It's just in the Dorian mode(Which is a major mode) the majority of the time, which sounds like a minor key.

:n3rd:

D Major and D Minor are quite different from each other, though. If they are in D Major, but they sound minor, they'd be in B Minor, not D Minor.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

In talking to Adam last night, he told me that he MIGHT be sitting in on the Altamont/Melvins/Biafra extravaganza at The Henry Fonda Theatre; it's just a matter of finding the time as he is currently very busy working on Tool-related projects (art design and video stuff). The Almuchefi has been a little off lately*, but I thought I saw a SilverBurst... Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Sweet. That means we're closer to having a single and stuff! :-D

satch- Yeah, but..Bah, I don't even care. :shrug:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

satch- Yeah, but..Bah, I don't even care. :shrug:

:p I feel you man.

[Darkness]

ooooo Jake got pwned. :p

[BlindWriting]

Honestly, there's enough gradual change in the sound of the scream that leads me to believe it wasn't looped at all. Meh.

Plus he does it amazingly well on that Oklahoma show bootleg.




I want new Tool. Preferably now.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm not sure I did. I think he's lying. :p

[Moses]

Sorry Jake, but I'm the theory n3rd around here.

Tool's songs start mostly in D Dorian which is neither major nor minor but has elements of both, also the most common in rock music. One thing people forget is that the songs go through lots of key changes too.

All scales are modes but two are used more than all the others, Aeolian (minor, and natural minor in most metal) Ionian (major). A mode is a series of notes in which there is one principal note (root) to which all the others are related. The first and last notes of a mode define the key or tonality. The step pattern which defines the sound of a mode can be generated by simply taking a scale, the major scale, for example, and by changing the note the modes start and end on. Because there are seven notes in the major scale, there are seven places to start a scale. So there are seven modes that can be derived from the 7-note major scale. Each of the seven arrangements of notes will have their own distinct sound.

So Tool does usually base their songs around D Dorian, but Dorian is not a type of major scale, in fact it's more commonly associated with minor scales.

[Toaster]

Yeah, I always thought Dorian had more of a minor feel. I'm pretty sure it has a minor 3rd, the only difference between that and Aeolian is the raised 6th. I may be thinking of a different mode though.

[Moses]

Yeah, I always thought Dorian had more of a minor feel. I'm pretty sure it has a minor 3rd, the only difference between that and Aeolian is the raised 6th. I may be thinking of a different mode though.
You're correct.

[paganman7]

You both amaze me! I'm impressed with the ability to, not only have an understanding of notes and scales, but also identify notes by ear.

It makes what I do seem mundane!

Strong work mates!

[Darkness]

Honestly, there's enough gradual change in the sound of the scream that leads me to believe it wasn't looped at all. Meh.

Plus he does it amazingly well on that Oklahoma show bootleg.




I want new Tool. Preferably now.
Oh god, on that bootleg when he does the scream... that's probably the coolest/best thing I've ever seen. So much power and feel/emotion...

[PinkFreud]

sounds like i need this bootleg then.

hmmm.

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

Hey, long time no chat!
I just got the Lateralus vinyl and I'm thinking about playing it once just to hear it and I want to know will it have ANY effect on the picture disk because I want to keep it in MINT, no, ABSOLUTE MINTcondition!!
Will playing it lower the quality of the picture in the slightest. thanks.

[One Groovin Clown]

if any one would like to send me the oklahoma bootleg i would be much grateful >_<

behind_the_bass@hotmail.com

[Darkness]

Ugh... I'm not uploading that behemoth again... maybe later..

[Kage]

Ugh... I'm not uploading that behemoth again... maybe later..
Haha...behemoth is right. I may upload it later, but right now all my bandwitdth is being used by my friend getting files off me, and my own downloading. =\

[Darkness]

If I did do it, it'd be either Wednesday or the weekend.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So I was more right than Satch was? :p

:partcool:

You know, that video has to be torrented somewhere. :confused: I'm sure you guys could find it somewhere without having to upload it every time someone wants it.

[Kage]

Haha, 'artcool.'

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I got owned by the ":p" smiley. I fix'd it though. :cool:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

So I was more right than Satch was? :p



Actually, no. What Moses said is correct, but what you and I were talking about was different. Essentially, I was correct in our argument, but it didn't matter because Moses settled it anyway. Did that make sense?

[Kage]

I like it. I'm going to use it from now on in describing things. ;)

Yeah, like Jake said, the Oklahoma video is readily available on Soulseek for anyone who can use that to download it. And I agree, it make sense if it was torrented somewhere.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'd look for a torrent for you guys, but that would do me little good, as it would probably take me until Christmas to download it all. :lol:

EDIT: http://www.geocities.com/tenmileshugh/tool.htm

Holy crap. That's a long list of Tool bootlegs. Perhaps it'll help some of you guys out.

[One Groovin Clown]

I'd look for a torrent for you guys, but that would do me little good, as it would probably take me until Christmas to download it all. :lol:

EDIT: http://www.geocities.com/tenmileshugh/tool.htm

Holy crap. That's a long list of Tool bootlegs. Perhaps it'll help some of you guys out.

that's quite thourough. Man i wish i was into Tool during the lateralus tour. Now i'll just have to wait for they're next tour. :(

[Darkness]

All of my Tool bootlegs are on my soulseek, including OK.

[Syncratic]

This information is probably nothing new, but the call from "Faaip de Oiad" took place on Art Bell's show on September 11, 1997.

:thumb:

[violator]

anyone know what adam's pedal setup is as of late?

[randomthought9]

http://guitargeek.com/rigview/593/

That was all I could find.

[violator]

http://guitargeek.com/rigview/593/

That was all I could find.

yeah that's all i could find myself as well... doesn't even have the model #'s of the ibanez pedals... i've also heard that he uses a boss flanger, not ibanez.

[jamesclelland]

i guess he uses mostly boss, but he has an interesting tone for just boss pedals. must be his pickups or cab/head setup that really defines his tone.

i had the tone to opiate down for a while till i upgraded my pedal board now im screwed again

[Kurrpt]

This information is probably nothing new, but the call from "Faaip de Oiad" took place on Art Bell's show on September 11, 1997.

:thumb:


maynard, where in PA are you located?

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

Originaly posted by Violator
anyone know what adam's pedal setup is as of late?

Here it is a couple of weeks ago.


16157

I can make out a dunlop wah, a boss digital delay, a boss chorus emsemble, a boss tuner, one of those wierd effects things that John Paul Jones out of led zeppelin used (the thing that looks like organ pedals), two what appear to be boss mega distortion pedals(which seems kinda wierd), and some pedals are blanked out, also i think I can see a small stone phaser , he also stopped using the Boss flanger, its not in the pic and it isnt behind the black either.

I also have a great pic of justins gear, if anyones interested just ask.

[Kage]

Yeah, post Justin's stuff.

[Kurrpt]

nice friggin post dude :thumb:

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

OK heres justins stuff.

16161

he's usin a bass whammy VERY HARD TO FIND, a boss flanger, boss digital delay, line 6 modulation unit, a boss chorus ensemble and a bunch of other stuff, dig the fancy flipflops!!

[BlindWriting]

This information is probably nothing new, but the call from "Faaip de Oiad" took place on Art Bell's show on September 11, 1997.

:thumb:
http://www.metatech.org/Art%20Bell%20Area%2051%20Call.mp3

[TemperamentalGoat]

This information is probably nothing new, but the call from "Faaip de Oiad" took place on Art Bell's show on September 11, 1997.

:thumb:

news to me, that's awesome. I used to love that radio show, but it got too weird to take seriously

[repcak]

Haha...behemoth is right. I may upload it later, but right now all my bandwitdth is being used by my friend getting files off me, and my own downloading. =\
Behemoth? what? i wann have it ... i love behemoth :thumb:

[YDload]

one of the perks of maynard's voice is how he pronounces the word "lie," almost like it rhymes with "boy."

like in Intolerance: "You LOY, cheat and steal, LOY cheat and steal, LOY cheat and steal, and yet I toleraaaaaaate."

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

one of the perks of maynard's voice is how he pronounces the word "lie," almost like it rhymes with "boy."

like in Intolerance: "You LOY, cheat and steal, LOY cheat and steal, LOY cheat and steal, and yet I toleraaaaaaate."

I don't hear that at all. I do hear that type of pronunciation in Korn's singer's voice.

[randomthought9]

I guess. His voice has evolved a lot, IMO. Listen to Opiate, and then Lateralus, or A Perfect Circle. It sounds different, and better, IMO.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Very wierd. Now Jones is using a chorus pedal and Justin is using a flanger? That seems backwards from previous years, heh. Where exactly did you find these pictures?

Ian- I think it's because of the style in which he delivers the "lie." If you pronounce it as it should while singing in that very guttural, distorted tone, it sounds rather "girlish," for lack of a better term. :p LOY sounds darker, I suppose.

repcak- When he said "behemoth," he was referring to the size of the Oklahoma live show, not the band. :p

[Toaster]

one of the perks of maynard's voice is how he pronounces the word "lie," almost like it rhymes with "boy."

like in Intolerance: "You LOY, cheat and steal, LOY cheat and steal, LOY cheat and steal, and yet I toleraaaaaaate."

Yeah, I've noticed that too. I wouldn't call it a perk, but it's something that distinguishes him.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I guess. His voice has evolved a lot, IMO. Listen to Opiate, and then Lateralus, or A Perfect Circle. It sounds different, and better, IMO.

Oh, definitely. On Opiate and Undertow, he had a rather one diminsional style, but now he can do his whole nasal croon thing, and he has also greatly improved the technique with which he started off with. He has a very mature voice, and also a very unique one at that.

[LetsLynchChad]

Edit: Nevermind, the OK show is on that bootleg page up there. ^

2nd Edit: As far as I can tell there aren't any downloads on that page, so if there is a desire for it I'll upload part one of the OK show again overnight.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Heh, I see we have another victim of teh chad. Sorry to see that, heh. Well, I won't be having any use for the OK bootleg, but if you're willing, there were several takers whne the OK show was mentioned.

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

Originaly posted by Dr. Jake Destructo
Very wierd. Now Jones is using a chorus pedal and Justin is using a flanger? That seems backwards from previous years, heh. Where exactly did you find these pictures?

Well just think, who would have access to taking pics like that? Now ask yourself why the blacked out areas and then maybe just maybe you'll think.. and why do you assume I got them somewhere on the internet? tool DOES appreciate fans.

[Mr Herb]

Erm what does a chorus pedal exactly do?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

pig- Where are you from, exactly? You're a lucky bastard. :p

Herb- Listen to the bass intro of 46&2. I'm not sure how to describe it, but just listen carefully, and that's what it does. More guitarists use chorus than bass players, but that ought to give you an idea of what a chorus pedal sounds like. It just creates a different sound. It's often used in a clean setting, but it can also be used wonderfully with distortion.

[Magicaltroll]

Well just think, who would have access to taking pics like that? Now ask yourself why the blacked out areas and then maybe just maybe you'll think.. and why do you assume I got them somewhere on the internet? tool DOES appreciate fans.
...
/goes to look for pics

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Look up. Or down a line or two.

Jones' gear (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10526892&postcount=22367)

Justin's gear (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10527044&postcount=22370)

[randomthought9]

I learned what a chorus pedal is by trying it out. Just look online, and they have demos of pedals, and what not. One time I was at the music store, just playing around w/ the pedals for like a half hour, and then I had to go. I want to get some effect pedals so bad, but I have no money. :upset:

[Dude3]

Just dropping in to say 'HEY'. Any new Tool news?

I used to be a regular in here, but I have been on MX a lot less recently.

Which, is a good thing, because I now have a life.

But still.......

[Moses]

I have almost abandoned this thread because of the lack of news. I just decided to forget about the new album and listen to Dredg, Nevermore, Extol, Dillinger Escape Plan, Dark Tranquility, Porcupine Tree, and Mastodon.

[Killtacular]

I have almost abandoned this thread because of the lack of news. I just decided to forget about the new album and listen to Dredg, Nevermore, Extol, Dillinger Escape Plan, Dark Tranquility, Porcupine Tree, and Mastodon.
From what I remember, Extol wasn't anything special, but that was a while ago. Name off songs to change my mind, this instant!

[Moses]

Ember, Undecieved. I'll send you some if you'd like. They go from tech to melo to emo to power. They're also Christian but you really can't tell.

[Killtacular]

Ember, Undecieved. I'll send you some if you'd like. They go from tech to melo to emo to power. They're also Christian but you really can't tell.
Please do: doom___cannon@hotmail.com

I knew they were Christian, but only because a friend told me (which is where I first heard them). I'd've otherwise never known, much like everyone else.

[Killtacular]

Someone give me the video where Maynard chokes the fan trying to hug him during Pushit.

Now, please.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Moses, if you end up sending those Extol songs to him you might as well send them to me as well.

spiralout7@gmail.com if you get around to it. Thanks in advance. :)

Oh, and nice overall list of bands you've substituted to take place of Tool.

[Darkness]

Someone give me the video where Maynard chokes the fan trying to hug him during Pushit.

Now, please.
I sent you that already man.

[Killtacular]

But I couldn't understand it. It was in Kanadian.

*teh shifty*

[Darkness]

But I couldn't understand it. It was in Kanadian.

*teh shifty*
You're lucky I have an amazing connection. :thumb:


/is sending it to him over msn... again

[Killtacular]

You and your ownage Kanadian intrawebz.

[Moses]

Okay I was away stuffing myself while it was uploading so I'll send it now.

Edit: Sent.

[Magicaltroll]

I have almost abandoned this thread because of the lack of news. I just decided to forget about the new album and listen to Dredg, Nevermore, Extol, Dillinger Escape Plan, Dark Tranquility, Porcupine Tree, and Mastodon.
I've ditched Tool for Converge and Pig Destroyer.

NP-Converge-Thaw (the really cool "emo" sounding part at the end)

:thumb:

[Moses]

If anyone else wants those 5 Extol songs, just tell me.

[Spinal Pap]

Hit me up man.

UTvol48@aol.com

[Moses]

Sent.

[Daven]

Can I also have them please.

daven.mx@gmail.com

[Moses]

I'm planning on bringing back the Classical Mailing list but I can't find the thread. Or any of them for that matter.

[Matter]

I'd be blessed if anyone could YSI Zuam to me...I had it before but lost it when my computer died...thanks in advance. matter4u420@yahoo.com

[Killtacular]

I'm planning on bringing back the Classical Mailing list but I can't find the thread. Or any of them for that matter.
Thanks for those Extol files, I'm milling away at them at the moment.

I'd also be very interested in that Classical Mailing List.

[Spiritofmosa]

Look up. Or down a line or two.

Jones' gear (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10526892&postcount=22367)

Justin's gear (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10527044&postcount=22370)

Boss rocks !
but y doesnt any artist use boss mt2, everybody seems to be choosing that pedal for distortion, probably overatted or just too popular

[Spiritofmosa]

Ember, Undecieved. I'll send you some if you'd like. They go from tech to melo to emo to power. They're also Christian but you really can't tell.
amos_amplified@hotmail.com
thanks

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

originaly posted by Dr. Jake Destructo
pig- Where are you from, exactly? You're a lucky bastard.

Where am I from? Well I live directly under the sun.. pretty much.

[Killtacular]

Sent.
Extol has some great instrumentation, but those vocals...
Uggggh, horrible. It's the most grating, abrasive form of death metal vocals I've ever heard, which I remember now is why I didn't like them.

So, in closing, great instrumentation, horrible, horrible, terrible vocals.

[Moses]

I think the clean vocals are ace, especially on Gloriana. The dirty vocals are, well, dirty. Do you just not like growling?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Where am I from? Well I live directly under the sun.. pretty much.

Ah, that would explain your association with Tool. You're sure are one lucky bastard. :upset: How many times have you gone to see them in the recording studio?

[Moses]

What'd you think of those Extol songs, Jake?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm downloading an Ulver album right now(and last night, dinosaurnet++) but I'll check them out once I'm done with this.

[Moses]

Koolies.....

Oh hell yess, I just said koolies.

/slaps him self in the face and comes back to reality

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

Originaly posted by Dr Jake Destructo
Ah, that would explain your association with Tool. You're sure are one lucky bastard. How many times have you gone to see them in the recording studio?

Ahh im just yankin ya man!! sorry bout that. I've never seen tool in the studio. (I'd sell my soul to see them though!!:lol: ) I just said directly under the sun for a laugh. Im actually from Ireland. so I cant really be much further away from LA:lol:

I got the pics on the net, in some message board, I think it was toolnavy.com, I made the list of what was in the pic though.

think of this as a lesson, never believe anyone!! (I never actually said I met tool anyway)

Happy trails.:thumb:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Ahh im just yankin ya man!! sorry bout that. I've never seen tool in the studio. (I'd sell my soul to see them though!!:lol: ) I just said directly under the sun for a laugh. Im actually from Ireland. so I cant really be much further away from LA:lol:

I got the pics on the net, in some message board, I think it was toolnavy.com, I made the list of what was in the pic though.

think of this as a lesson, never believe anyone!! (I never actually said I met tool anyway)

Happy trails.:thumb:

After this, I've decided that you don't have a soul. ;)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So right now, I'm downloading a 6 track Tool bootleg from Soulseek. The songs are Stinkfist, 46 & 2, The Grudge, Prison Sex, Push it, and Schism. I've only listened to Stinkfist so far, and it's quite awesome. Of course, it's typical bootleg quality, but it's very cool to hear the different version of Stinkfist. Adam does some awesome improv-style stuff to spice up the main riff. The second verse, Maynard sings different lyrics(I beleive they're from an Elvis song), and the added segment after Adam's "solo" is great. :p

EDIT: It's "Live in San Diego," in case anyone was curious.

NP: Tool - No Quarter

[repcak]

haven't been here for a while... anything new about tool? :rolleyes:

[Darkness]

haven't been here for a while... anything new about tool? :rolleyes:
CD next week.

[Kage]

CD next week.
I'm camped out right now in front of Best Buy with my lap top and wireless internet. :cool:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I'm camped out right now in front of Best Buy with my lap top and wireless internet. :cool:

I'd do it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm camped out right now in front of Best Buy with my lap top and wireless internet. :cool:

Sweet, I always wondered if you could leech off of Best Buy's Clearwire server. :p

It's really too bad they're only releasing Refractionoid as a limited edition though...I don't want to pay 30 bucks for an album, but eh, it's Tool. I'd pay anything for Tool.

[Toaster]

Is it really next week? Jeez, I'm behind. Anyone know the title?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Refractionoid. It's in my post up there. ^

[Kage]

Sweet, I always wondered if you could leech off of Best Buy's Clearwire server. :p

It's really too bad they're only releasing Refractionoid as a limited edition though...I don't want to pay 30 bucks for an album, but eh, it's Tool. I'd pay anything for Tool.
Hey, man, I'm gonna buy five and sell the extra four for ninety bucks apiece on Ebay as imports. Pretty good profit margin, I'd say. That is, if I can get my hands on five during the stampede.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

That's a good idea. I think I'm gonna bring my pellet gun, just in case Best Buy sells out. I'll pull my gun out on someone who's on their way out with the album.

You bastards better watch out! :evil:

[Kage]

I'm packin' heat. My tent is filled with piles of rocks, so I've got ammo to spare.

[Darkness]

but eh, it's Tool. I'd pay anything for Tool.
Yeah, we have to pay lots, this way they can bathe in expensive plum sauce.

[Txus]

I don't know how many of you have done this but it's really amazing i took it from toolnavy.com


Well, here´s something to amuse and amaze you. I will write these instructions in steps, so don´t read it all at once, if you dont want to spoil it before you try this on your own. But I´llsuggest you to read this whole thing even if youhave "solved the puzzle", to see how far I could take it.And I´m sorry if my English is ****ed up at some points.


Well here goes:

Step 1:

Take that black slip covering the actual album package and turn it around so
you can see the track listing. Now take the inner sleeve and open it up, so you can see the man with the pentagram stuck in his throat. Use only this and the following page,fold back the last page (Bottleopenerpage, so it wont distract you.)
I prefer these two pages on for certain reasons. Next you´ll have to put the inner sleeve on the top of the tracklistblackslipthingee. Now as you´re beginning to position the inner sleeve to thecorrect position, remember to keep the inner sleeve page´s edges and the black slip´s edges parallel (this does not mean
that the inner sleeve edges should be on top of the black slip edges, they´ll just have to be parallel). Now youshould make the man´s tip of the nose touch the little quadrangle which is followed by a text:Triad.


Step 2:
With this positioning hold the slip and the sleeve against a light. Now you can see through the man.

Step 3:
If you´ve done the positioning as I did it and told you to do, then you can see certain things. You´ll see certain lines coming out from certain positions of the man´s face.


Step 4:

Faaip de oiad-line is coming from the mouth. (notice the pentagram)
Reflection-line is connected into the eye of the man. (I personally think that eye has a lot to do with reflections)
The little Disposition-X is in a small cavity (?) in the man´s forehead.
Lateralus is connected to the brain. (Thinking, thinking)


Step 5:
And now look on the top of the man´s head. There is something.

Step 6:
Reminds me of a crown. Keter? Or the crown of negativity?

Step 7:
Turn the page.

Step 8:
Definitely Keter. But on the other hand Ticks & Leeches are pretty close to the crown. Maybe it is the crown of negativity.


Now I´ll have a little extra fun for you.

Now that you have positioned the man so the GOD is crowned. Well there´s more crowns. Now flip the sleeve around so that you see the GOD from end to beginning "DOG", GOD as a mirror image, you know. Now above the crown that we found last time,you can see another crown. Now position the "DOG" in the exact same manner as you did with the GOD(The crown a little inside his skull.
If youve done this correctly, youll see a line connected to the man´s mouth. This aint no ordinary line. Well, youll, find out the rest.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ugh, I want to try this, but I think you typed it out too quickly or something, because I can't get past step one without getting a headache. :p

[Darkness]

Yeah it confused me to... and I don't want to bend up my Lateralus booklet. :p

[Moses]

Did anyone else listen to those Extol songs?

[Txus]

Ugh, I want to try this, but I think you typed it out too quickly or something, because I can't get past step one without getting a headache. :p
What confuses you?

[BlindWriting]

Are you talking about the Lateralus vinyl, or the CD? You're saying a lot about sleeves and slips.

[Darkness]

Pretty sure its the cd.

[BlindWriting]

Well in that case I'm not bending up the booklet.

[Txus]

Well in that case I'm not bending up the booklet.
Im talking about the CD.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

DVD singles artwork:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000C3L2S4.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000C6NPJU.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

I like 'em.

[repcak]

the font reminds me the font-style of black metal :(

[BlindWriting]

Does that mean they're releasing them separately? There are two separate entries on amazon.com.

[Six Foot Revolver]

DVD singles artwork:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000C3L2S4.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000C6NPJU.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

I like 'em.
It looks pretty cool but it seems way too bland.

[repcak]

It looks pretty cool but it seems way too bland.

lol ... your avatar :lol:

/sorry for this off-topic post :rolleyes:

[Six Foot Revolver]

lol ... your avatar :lol:

/sorry for this off-topic post :rolleyes:
You got a problem with Snake celebrating the festive season?

[repcak]

You got a problem with Snake celebrating the festive season?
no, you inspirated me

<---- :p

though, to be serious i like christmas, but i don't like the christmas time(!) - well i know that doesn't make sense... who cares :D

[beastman168]

i love that icon though

[Otherside]

You got a problem with Snake celebrating the festive season?

'Sup Christmas Snake brother :cool:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Does that mean they're releasing them separately? There are two separate entries on amazon.com.

I guess so.

[something erotic]

I see many people are in the Christmas spirit. :-)

<-------So am I!

[Killtacular]

I think the clean vocals are ace, especially on Gloriana. The dirty vocals are, well, dirty. Do you just not like growling?
I enjoy growling, when it's not abrasive, scratchy and annoying like these guys do.

/late reply

[Darkness]

Man.. those DVD covers look nice... I'm glad they didn't over do them, just plain and simple.

[Otherside]

So AJG, are we going to see a Santa-Blair this holiday season?

[Toaster]

So AJG, are we going to see a Santa-Blair this holiday season?

Heh, good to see Snake is excited for Xmas.

Man.. those DVD covers look nice... I'm glad they didn't over do them, just plain and simple.

What DVD covers are these?

[BlindWriting]

The new Schism/Parabola DVD single.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

They're going to be released seperately? Bullshit.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

No, I thought they were just releasing two different covers...

[BlindWriting]

No, I thought they were just releasing two different covers...
I hope so.

We'll see what the newsletter has to say, I guess tomorrow night or the day after.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Btw, somebody needs to give Richard D. James a Santa-hat.

[mudvayne420]

if they did decide to release the Schism/Parabola DvD seperatly i think they might have behind the scenes footage, like a making of thing. But, they could also do this on one vid. but it wouldn't seem right to only have one dvd with both singles and the two seperate behind the scenes. But lets hope that they'll have making of......vids.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I doubt those covers will be the final covers for the DVD. They seem way too simplistic for Tool standards. :p Plus, the Olde English seems rather out of place considering Tool usually stick to their signature "melting letters" the majority of the time nowadays.

[Spiritofmosa]

i was looking at jerk off lyrics -
"But it must not be true
for jerk-offs like you.
Maybe it takes longer to catch a total asshole.
but I'm tired of waiting.
Maybe it's just bull**** and I should play GOD,
and shoot you myself.
Because I'm tired of waiting."

what does maynard mean by waiting ?

[paganman7]

They're going to be released seperately?


I've been saying this for the past two weeks.

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

Originally Posted by satchforever
DVD singles artwork:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000C3L2S4.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000C6NPJU.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

I like 'em.

......................man you could of at least tried!! I could crap on a page and make a more convincing cover than that!

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

......................man you could of at least tried!! I could crap on a page and make a more convincing cover than that!

They're from amazon.com.

[Reywas]

I've been saying this for the past two weeks.

tool are the biggest money grabbers in music

[Artemician]

tool are the biggest money grabbers in music

As has been stated on several occasions, Tool need our money so that they can bathe in expensive plum sauce. Really man, gotta pay attention to these things....

[Reywas]

I overreacted, no one beats fiddy, but seriously releasing two DVD's with easilly attainable videos SEPERATELY seems like they're just miliking the fans.I hope this bonus material is well worth the separate buy.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Tool are not even close to "money-grabbers" in the least. If they wanted to make a lot more money then they'd advertise more, do more interviews, and would make more melodic music.

They're simply putting things out to appease the fans...as the due-date for the album was pushed a lot further back than the fans anticipated...

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

Originaly posted by Satchforever
They're from amazon.com.

I was just messin man. there pretty intricate looking. I like the design of Parabola.

[paganman7]

They're going to be released seperately? Bull****.

Indeed. They're definately seperate; they only cost $7 each.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I was just messin man. there pretty intricate looking. I like the design of Parabola.

Okay, cool. :cool:

[JessJansen]

CD next week.

Where did you find out about the cd being released next week?

[Darkness]

Where did you find out about the cd being released next week?
From when I saw Maynard at the moviest last week.

[repcak]

Where did you find out about the cd being released next week?

:lol: from his official homepage... äh... myspace... but ... pssst... its secret

[Kage]

I won't buy those DVDs. Those are a joke in my opinion; just something to milk some money out of the fans.

[Toaster]

Where did you find out about the cd being released next week?

Is it honestly being released next week? I'm confused.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Is it honestly being released next week? I'm confused.

No.

[Killtacular]

No.
Don't listen to this fool, as he's trying to cover up the tr00f.

[something erotic]

Don't know if anyone saw it, but there are 3 pics from Justin's party on toolband taken by Aaron Harris of Isis.

http://tinypic.com/i1jwhe.jpg

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Don't listen to this fool, as he's trying to cover up the tr00f.

But the album isn't coming out next week, it's coming out in 2 weeks. You didn't read the newest update from Blair? They are delaying it one week because the stars won't be aligned correctly next tuesday.

[Killtacular]

But the album isn't coming out next week, it's coming out in 2 weeks. You didn't read the newest update from Blair? They are delaying it one week because the stars won't be aligned correctly next tuesday.
Oh, I guess I missed that part, then.
If I've waited this long, I can wait another week.
Carry on.

[Toaster]

Wow. I've been hearing January 2006. I even checked the website.. although I am quite lazy. Sorting through all that religious confusion was very labour-intensive.

[something erotic]

:rolleyes:

[Kage]

Damn it. This means I'll have stay here in my tent for another whole week...I was wondering why there weren't many people lined up yet.

[Darkness]

:rolleyes:
Whats your problem? Do you deny the tr00f about the new Tool CD, Refractionoid?

[something erotic]

lollollollollollollollollol

[Toaster]

Why did you post a single rolling eye smiley as a reply to my post?

I apologize, I don't buy into the whole "magik" thing. I guess I'm an ignorant poser to be scorned and ridiculed by the true followers of Tool.

:rolleyes:

[something erotic]

:lol:

[Kage]

Why did you post a single rolling eye smiley as a reply to my post?

I apologize, I don't buy into the whole "magik" thing. I guess I'm an ignorant poser to be scorned and ridiculed by the true followers of Tool.
I don't think it was that. He's a fool, ignore 'im.

I've started to get quite a few stink eyes from the Best Buy employees. :o

[Toaster]

I don't think it was that. He's a fool, ignore 'im.

I've started to get quite a few stink eyes from the Best Buy employees. :o

How are you showering, out of curiosity?

And how's the toilet paper issue?

[Darkness]

Why did you post a single rolling eye smiley as a reply to my post?

I apologize, I don't buy into the whole "magik" thing. I guess I'm an ignorant poser to be scorned and ridiculed by the true followers of Tool.

:rolleyes:
toaster, you're one of the few people who fell for my whole "CD next week" joke. I've been doing it for some time to people who just come in the thread and go "HEY GUYZ WENZ DA NEW T00L CD OUT?!1??. :lol:

Thats why he rolled his eyes at you.

[Toaster]

We people are so few because the cool are few. :cool:

[Kage]

How are you showering, out of curiosity?

And how's the toilet paper issue?
Showering?

Toilet paper?

:confused:

[Killtacular]

toaster, you're one of the few people who fell for my whole "CD next week" joke. I've been doing it for some time to people who just come in the thread and go "HEY GUYZ WENZ DA NEW T00L CD OUT?!1??. :lol:
Thats why he rolled his eyes at you.
You ruined the fun.

You pHail.

[Toaster]

The best part is, I bet this guy at school "1000 dollars" that the album is coming out next week. Have your laughs.

But I still don't know when the album is being released.

[Otherside]

No one else does either :/

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Showering?

Toilet paper?

:confused:

Hygiene becomes somewhat of a complex after spending a week in a tent.

[Otherside]

Tool > Hygiene.

Fact.

[paganman7]

Amazon has just posted a list of CDs to be released on January 3rd...anyone want to guess who's not listed?

Even if the band are finished recording, they haven't a clue when they're going to release the album. It takes time for Adam to draw eyeballs.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

It takes time for Adam to draw eyeballs.

Maybe if Adam = Cam De Leon or Alex Gray.

[omgwtfboogie]

tool are the biggest money grabbers in music
Yeah. Money grabbers with artistic integrity do not exist dude.

[Darkness]

No one else does either :/
I do, next week.


(Happy Scruples?)

[paganman7]

Maybe if Adam = Cam De Leon or Alex Gray.

I thought I read that Adam was involved with the album artwork?

I guess that's why I'm the noob.

[Otherside]

I do, next week.


(Happy Scruples?)

oh em gee rlly?

I thought I read that Adam was involved with the album artwork?

I guess that's why I'm the noob.

Adam did the Undertow album front thing, if I remember correctly.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

The Ænima artwork was done by Cam De Leon, and Lateralus was done by Alex Gray. Both are amazing artists, but I tend to prefer Alex Grey, just because his style is just way more original than pretty much anything I've ever seen. Someone of you who appreciate the Lateralus artwork should check out his site sometime.

http://alexgrey.com/

[Otherside]

I've seen his site, even used some of the artwork for school projects. Very interesting stuff.

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

Hey speakin of the pics of justins party, doesn't he look like some mincing paedophile in the pic on the left!!:lol:

It's also nice to see Dannys now frequently wearin Dungerees!! (á la Tim Alexander!!)

also Whos the guy with Blair and Camella in the centre picture? anyone?

heres the pic

16220

[mudvayne420]

i wish i knew, but in the center picture the guy on the left looks like Ray Manzarek(however you spell his last name) from the doors.

[Txus]

Maybe if Adam = Cam De Leon or Alex Gray.
They are both amazing artist but i do prefer Alex Grey, the guy is so unique, another great artist even though he has nothing to do with tool is Tony Koehl.

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

Originaly posted by Mudvayne420
i wish i knew, but in the center picture the guy on the left looks like Ray Manzarek(however you spell his last name) from the doors.

Thats Blair Mc Kenzy Blake, the moderator of toolband.com who we all love for his clear and concise news about tool....am I right??!!!!

Out of ten how would you all rate Blair as a moderator (or what ever his "job" is called!!)
.............Well??

Come on its not like we have anything else to talk about!