Tool

[Daven]

I can send, but only the song. If you want the whole cd i can send you most of it. But not Faip De Oiad, MAntra and Eon Blue Apocalypse.

[milkman41]

hey everybody, I'm not new here, I usually just lurk and don't contribute or anything, but, as douchebaguettey as it might sound, I lost my copy of Aenima, so I was wondering if somebody could possibly upload it and send it to me.

my email is sparklepinknick@gmail.com, and this would seriously be like insanely appreciated.

pce out.

oh, and tool is awesome.

[Moses]

Agreed. Adam's rhythmic riffs are much better than any shred solo any day.
If Adam did shred, I'm sure he'd make it fit well. He's not self indulgent and he'd only shred to improve the song so if he thought it would improve the song I think he'd do it to the best of his ability.

[Kage]

If Adam did shred, I'm sure he'd make it fit well. He's not self indulgent and he'd only shred to improve the song so if he thought it would improve the song I think he'd do it to the best of his ability.
"Shredding" and "self-indulgent" are synonymous.

[BlindWriting]

I honestly don't know where all this dislike for shredding comes from.

Like any musical technique, it works if done well.

[Moses]

"Shredding" and "self-indulgent" are synonymous.
Only if you think of it that way. I think alot of the solos that Jeff Loomis and Steve Smyth do on This Godless Endeavor aren't that self-indulgent but they are hard stuff, too.

Same with Debussy or Chopin, would you call them self-indulgent?

[Kage]

I stand by that shredding is self-indulgent, in any form. Whether it sounds good or not is another question. Mostly it doesn't, sometimes it can.

Generally, I've never liked shredding on a guitar. It just doesn't sound good to me.

[Moses]

The sound of a thousand high notes going through my ears a second is almost theraputic to me. Rusty Cooley, while being the most self-indulgent guitarist to ever walk the earth, does some cool hypnotic things with 2-string sweeps.

[Kage]

Well, you just proved my point then. He's self-indulgent, but that doesn't mean it sounds bad. For me, I usually can't stand shredding guitar (Nevermore often being an exception :)).

[Moses]

On Enemies of Reality they got way too technical with the solo's even though they have some awesome riffs. They really saved their career with the new album.

[Kage]

The solos on that album are some of my favorite of that style, no doubt. I've come to really love the whole album.

Can anyone think of any bands that start with "M" and end with the word "head'?

Mushroomhead
Machine Head...

Any others?

[Moses]

No, I really can't think of any others but why would you ask such a daring question?

[heavy metal kid]

Can anyone think of any bands that start with "M" and end with the word "head"
Totally random question...
Motorhead

[Moses]

Damnit!! I knew there was one more.

[Kage]

Totally random question...
Motorhead
Yeah! That's it! Nice job!


No, I really can't think of any others but why would you ask such a daring question?
:lol: It's a long story.

[Moses]

Whew, all that pwning of those trolls is entertaining but I need to sleep.

[Phototropic]

I know this is probably ancient news but I didn't want people to miss out

http://www.bandsvideos.com/download-tool-live-san-bernardino.htm

Full tool concert, 294 MB

Camera footage from someone in the crowd :( But its alright like!!!

:wave:

[Spiritofmosa]

wow i have tool live at ponoma year 1996, i though that was old enuf. i've never seen their new stuff

[repcak]

I know this is probably ancient news but I didn't want people to miss out

http://www.bandsvideos.com/download-tool-live-san-bernardino.htm

Full tool concert, 294 MB

Camera footage from someone in the crowd :( But its alright like!!!

:wave:
hey, thank you :thumb:

[Six Foot Revolver]

The video doesn't work on it for me and I only have sound :(.

[G_Mac07]

The video doesn't work on it for me and I only have sound :(.

What media player do you use/What file type is it?

[Six Foot Revolver]

What media player do you use/What file type is it?
I tried it on both Winamp and WMP. The file type changes on which media player I use, when it is on 'open with winamp' it says it is a Winamp video file and on WMP it says video clip.

/Confuzzled

[G_Mac07]

Post your E-Mail. I'll send you a codec that should fix most problems you will ever have with Video Files and WMP.

[Six Foot Revolver]

ukwildheart @ gmail.com

Cheers :).

[G_Mac07]

Let me know if it helps.

[Six Foot Revolver]

It did thanks :-*.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Culd GMac or anyone fix it for me as well? It doesn't play for me.

jericho3213@yahoo.com

[clearvision]

Whoah what up with that version of stinkfist?

And the date of the show must be wrong...aenima was released '96 and there are aenima songs on the vid.

Setlist...

Intolerance
Eulogy
Bottom
Sober
Stinkfist
Part Of Me
Undertow
4 degrees (wtf is that woman all about?)
Push!t
Prison sex
Cold & Ugly
Opiate
Swamp Song

2 Songs from aenima..so before it was released?

[Darkness]

Culd GMac or anyone fix it for me as well? It doesn't play for me.

jericho3213@yahoo.com
Me to, please.

somebodysomeone509 at hotmail.com

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Whoah what up with that version of stinkfist?

And the date of the show must be wrong...aenima was released '96 and there are aenima songs on the vid.

Setlist...

Intolerance
Eulogy
Bottom
Sober
Stinkfist
Part Of Me
Undertow
4 degrees (wtf is that woman all about?)
Push!t
Prison sex
Cold & Ugly
Opiate
Swamp Song

2 Songs from aenima..so before it was released?

Promo for the upcoming album.

[Darkness]

Man... this whole waiting for the new Tool release is getting really, really old. It's getting frusterating...

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

The megaupload didn't work either. :-/

[Six Foot Revolver]

Culd GMac or anyone fix it for me as well? It doesn't play for me.

jericho3213@yahoo.com
I wish you guys would have requested before I deleted the e-mail :(.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Promo for the upcoming album.

My first reaction upon reading this. (I bypassed reading the quote)

wtf new album promo, zomg songs? :erection:

Then I read the quote and didn't feel dissapointed.

[G_Mac07]

Codec (hxxp://s34.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2JH759C6DQ1P40CY2UD1UZ0HHE)

Here's a YSI link for those who need the codec

[Phototropic]

hey, thank you :thumb:

Glad to be of service :D

[G_Mac07]

Setlist...

Intolerance
Eulogy
Bottom
Sober
Stinkfist
Part Of Me
Undertow
4 degrees (wtf is that woman all about?)
Push!t
Prison sex
Cold & Ugly
Opiate
Swamp Song

2 Songs from aenima..so before it was released?

Eh?

[clearvision]

Eh?


Glad someone is awake :rolleyes:

[repcak]

hm... but the quality of the video is really bad :( but the first concert of tool i am able to see :thumb:

[Kurrpt]

my friend had one from Vegas (bootleg)



maynard has this long talk before he sings eulogy. comes out looking like a priest, carrying a megaphone, shoutin some banter

[Magicaltroll]

my friend had one from Vegas (bootleg)



maynard has this long talk before he sings eulogy. comes out looking like a priest, carrying a megaphone, shoutin some banter
If you could upload that, I would love it.
I used to live in Vegas, so that'd be pretty cool, because my old Math teacher went to that show, and said alot of cool things about it that I'd love to see.

[One Groovin Clown]

If you could upload that, I would love it.
I used to live in Vegas, so that'd be pretty cool, because my old Math teacher went to that show, and said alot of cool things about it that I'd love to see.

That's almost as sweet as having a dad that's into Tool as much as you are. :cool:

[Otherside]

My 9th English teacher was the first person to introduce me to Tool, which pretty much saved me from the horrible music I was listening to at the time. He was a pretty cool guy, but I think he moved to New Zealand :\

[Magicaltroll]

That's almost as sweet as having a dad that's into Tool as much as you are. :cool:
You have no idea.
The whole period one day, we listened to Nine Inch Nails, because I got the new CD. It was sweet, because we talked about alot of bands and stuff.

[Dude3]

Brian(or anybody), I need a suggestion. I want your opinion on the most fuking brutal and insane breakdown ever. I'm having a little 'mood-swing', and to sum it all up, I need inspiration to write a Metal/Hardcore/Grindcore song, that will make kids under 7 cry.

This is the result of a girl.


NP: Destroyer Destroyer - I'm tired of making you listen

[Magicaltroll]

Brian(or anybody), I need a suggestion. I want your opinion on the most fuking brutal and insane breakdown ever. I'm having a little 'mood-swing', and to sum it all up, I need inspiration to write a Metal/Hardcore/Grindcore song, that will make kids under 7 cry.

This is the result of a girl.
Pig Destroyer-Towering Flesh
Aborted-Whole Goremageddon album
Pig Destroyer-Starbelly
Converge-Pretty much the whole Jane Doe album

Sorry if you've already tried most of those. But that's usually just what I put in when I get pissed. I've been going through alot of that also, so I can sort of relate.

Aborted-Goremageddon is seriously brutal though, especially the song The Saw And the Carnage Done. Hope you get some kick-*** inspiration somewhere/from those songs.

And I'm still on the ever-lasting search for the most insane breakdown ever. So when I find one, I'll let you know for future reference.

EDIT:Also, All Else Failed-Route 1 is pretty awesome stuff too. It has a good breakdown if I remember right, and a big thing where it gets kinda soft and angsty sounding, in a good way.

[Matter]

On a side-note I came across a mint condition T00L shirt while browsing my local Goodwill thrift store this afternoon, picked it to make sure it was the right size and check the price....YES AND 1 DOLLAR...:thumb: :cool: :)

[Killtacular]

[rambling about getting better Tool shirts than mine for far cheaper]
Bastard.
:mad:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

On a side-note I came across a mint condition T00L shirt while browsing my local Goodwill thrift store this afternoon, picked it to make sure it was the right size and check the price....YES AND 1 DOLLAR...:thumb: :cool: :)

Whenever I go to Goodwill, I take a look for cool shirts. The only thing I ever find of interest to me are the trench coats, and a cool hat my friend bought. It read "Kiss my bass" and it had a pick of a fish under the lettering. :p

Rob- That extended version of Stinkfist is pretty sweet huh? I have a GP4 tab with that extra bridge in there if anyone wants to check that out.

(I'm just sharing the only thing that's practical to share on my phag connection) (a)

[Matter]

I have a very old cover of stinkfist I did including teh extended version...scroll down all the way to the bottom its one of the last ones...feel free to listen to all the tool covers on thier as well as other covers and Originals. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=175879

...yes I know many parts are incorrect but that was like 5 years ago i should prolly redo it correctly.

[ThePatient]

I'm not sure what that extended version of Stinkfist is (I'm downloading now), but if its the same as the OK video, the extended part is from an Elvis song called Suspicous Minds.

[Spiritofmosa]

check this , hope it works http://www.bandsvideos.com/download-apc-pittsburgh.htm

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I don't think that's it. I thought that Maynard substituted the lyrics from Suspicious minds into the verse of Stinkfist or something. This version actually has an added riff, but I could be wrong. They could be one in the same.

EDIT: So I just listened to The 81st Chakra again. It's thenewtoolsingle for those who don't remember. I forgot how hilarious it was. :lol:

[Magicaltroll]

New Tool single?
Huh?

[Darkness]

Yeah man, 81st Chakra. Great track.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Someone has to upload that. It's basically a joke track someone made poking fun at Tool.

[Darkness]

I will, tomorrow.

[deadline666]

I'm pretty sure Die Eier Von Satan has the most meaningful lyrics I've ever heard.

And I'm going to try and make the cookies...without hash though:upset:

[ThunderBass]

if it doesnt work are you going to complain? lol can see it now...

"Tool receive angry fanmail due to hash cookies not coming out according to plan, recipe spoken in german blamed"

[G_Mac07]

^ Where in Brisbane are you from?

clearvision, sorry to come across as such a picky bastard the other day. No hard feelings. :)

[Darkness]

The new Tool song, 81st Chakra.

hxxp://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ITUEZRR976GR18HRQ0SCXTMK8

[Dude3]

Hey guys. Still, it seems there is nonew Tool news.

I got bored in American Government class today, like always, and I wrote a poem. Maybe I'll sparsely use it in some lyrics for a song I'm writing. Tell me what you think.


"Neon in the horizon

One never smelt the dew-scented perfume

Optimistic of pessimism


Exorbitant ties can never decipher:

The plan

The idea

Now forgotten"

[Magicaltroll]

Hey guys. Still, it seems there is nonew Tool news.

I got bored in American Government class today, like always, and I wrote a poem. Maybe I'll sparsely use it in some lyrics for a song I'm writing. Tell me what you think.


"Neon in the horizon

One never smelt the dew-scented perfume

Optimistic of pessimism


Exorbitant ties can never decipher:

The plan

The idea

Now forgotten"
Pretty sweet.
Did I help you out at all with those songs I recommended?


:lol:
This Tool song is pretty funny.
Who made it?

[Dude3]

Pretty sweet.
Did I help you out at all with those songs I recommended?
Thanks man. I'm getting my band started up, and I wanna get my writing skills up, along with my vocals(I would like to sing....who know where that is going? Haha)

I haven't gotten to listen to the stuff yet, other than the Converge. They're pretty sweet.

I'm making a birthday list of cd's right now. So far, I've got:

The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Irony is a Dead Scene
Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come: A Chimerical Bombation
Death - Individual Thought Patterns
The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium
Bring me the Horizon - This is what the edge of the seat was made for
Isis - Panopticon(Still considering Oceanic, but not sure)
Unearth - The Oncoming Storm
Pelican - The Fire in our Throats will Beckon the Thaw

Still adding....

[repcak]

and i already thought thats a real song from tool... just another fake :upset:

[Magicaltroll]

Thanks man. I'm getting my band started up, and I wanna get my writing skills up, along with my vocals(I would like to sing....who know where that is going? Haha)

I haven't gotten to listen to the stuff yet, other than the Converge. They're pretty sweet.

I'm making a birthday list of cd's right now. So far, I've got:

The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Irony is a Dead Scene
Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come: A Chimerical Bombation
Death - Individual Thought Patterns
The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium
Bring me the Horizon - This is what the edge of the seat was made for
Isis - Panopticon(Still considering Oceanic, but not sure)
Unearth - The Oncoming Storm
Pelican - The Fire in our Throats will Beckon the Thaw

Still adding....
Go with Oceanic by Isis, it's really great.
And that looks like a pretty cool list.

I'm getting the Animal Cruelty band together also, and I'm gonna be the singer, it's gonna be so fun, because I love screaming my head off :D

[omgwtfboogie]

Thanks man. I'm getting my band started up, and I wanna get my writing skills up, along with my vocals(I would like to sing....who know where that is going? Haha)

I haven't gotten to listen to the stuff yet, other than the Converge. They're pretty sweet.

I'm making a birthday list of cd's right now. So far, I've got:

The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Irony is a Dead Scene
Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come: A Chimerical Bombation
Death - Individual Thought Patterns
The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium
Bring me the Horizon - This is what the edge of the seat was made for
Isis - Panopticon(Still considering Oceanic, but not sure)
Unearth - The Oncoming Storm
Pelican - The Fire in our Throats will Beckon the Thaw

Still adding....


Go for Oceanic. It has "The Other" and "Hym" on it. Enough said.

[Dude3]

Go with Oceanic by Isis, it's really great.
And that looks like a pretty cool list.

I'm getting the Animal Cruelty band together also, and I'm gonna be the singer, it's gonna be so fun, because I love screaming my head off :D
K. I probably will.

Good luck with the Animal Cruelty thing man. From what I've heard, its been sounding really awesome. I'm not really sure on what I'm trying to get my band to sound like. I want like a mix of Hardcore, Metal(Death, MElodic death, Post, maybe some doom), wrap it in some prog, and maybe throw in some jazz interludes. And lots of breakdowns!

I really want to sing. Its always been a little secret dream of mine. I just need to work on it...all. And get a good scream aswell. I hope I can do it. Out of all the singing 'candidates' for the band, I truely believe I have the most potential, but that's just me. I guess we'll see how it goes.

[Magicaltroll]

K. I probably will.

Good luck with the Animal Cruelty thing man. From what I've heard, its been sounding really awesome. I'm not really sure on what I'm trying to get my band to sound like. I want like a mix of Hardcore, Metal(Death, MElodic death, Post, maybe some doom), wrap it in some prog, and maybe throw in some jazz interludes. And lots of breakdowns!

I really want to sing. Its always been a little secret dream of mine. I just need to work on it...all. And get a good scream aswell. I hope I can do it. Out of all the singing 'candidates' for the band, I truely believe I have the most potential, but that's just me. I guess we'll see how it goes.
Same here, I love showing people what I'm capable of, and I think showing emotion through screaming is one of the coolest things a person can do. Screaming in a band of course though :lol:

But yeah, bands like Pig Destroyer, Converge, All Else Failed, and other metalcore bands do that great. And I want the intensity of their shows in one of mine, and I think I can do that ;)

Good luck with everything though. And thanks for the compliments, they mean alot.

[Darkness]

:lol:
This Tool song is pretty funny.
Who made it?
Some guy from myspace a while back.

[Otherside]

I got bored in American Government class today, like always, and I wrote a poem. Maybe I'll sparsely use it in some lyrics for a song I'm writing. Tell me what you think.


"Neon in the horizon

One never smelt the dew-scented perfume

Optimistic of pessimism


Exorbitant ties can never decipher:

The plan

The idea

Now forgotten"

Well, I like the first two lines, but the third is a bit cliched and doesn't seem to fit well. You might want to try and rewrite it somehow. Opposites shouldn't really be used that close together, except in some special cases.
The next part sounds almost Opeth-ish, but I don't think I dig the list thing. Consider something like messing around with the order; "The plans and ideas now forgotten, exorbitant ties cannot decipher." Or something to that effect.
Just some suggestions though...

Hope this helps :)

[Kage]

Hey guys. Still, it seems there is nonew Tool news.

I got bored in American Government class today, like always, and I wrote a poem. Maybe I'll sparsely use it in some lyrics for a song I'm writing. Tell me what you think.


"Neon in the horizon

One never smelt the dew-scented perfume

Optimistic of pessimism


Exorbitant ties can never decipher:

The plan

The idea

Now forgotten"
Very cool. I especially like the tone of the second part of the poem. It's similar to the way I write when I do write poetry, which is not very often at all.

EDIT: Otherside gave some useful advice. Keep the tone and ideas of the poem, work on the diction. :)

[Dude3]

Well, I like the first two lines, but the third is a bit cliched and doesn't seem to fit well. You might want to try and rewrite it somehow. Opposites shouldn't really be used that close together, except in some special cases.
The next part sounds almost Opeth-ish, but I don't think I dig the list thing. Consider something like messing around with the order; "The plans and ideas now forgotten, exorbitant ties cannot decipher." Or something to that effect.
Just some suggestions though...

Hope this helps :)
Cool, thanks.

I agree with the 3rd line. I don't like it.
Personally, I agree with Kage on the 2nd part. I like to write like that. That's kinda how I would write lyrics to a song, and I try to sometimes think of a poem in a song's setting.

Thanks man!

[bwnstl]

What other albums by Opeth should I get besides Ghost Reveries?

[repcak]

My favourites are "Still Life" and "Morningside".

but you better ask in the Opeth-Thread...

[Darkness]

Blackwater Park to.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I like to write poetry, but I prefer free prose. I always tell my self to write in some wierd artsy mode, but in the end, it always ends up being me writing in first person about some cliched topic. :upset:

[Kage]

I have one poem that I've written that I'm really proud of. It's just kind of free form. I never write to a certain set of guidlines or form. I wait until I have a certain emotion, and one phrase or word that I really like and then build it around those two things. Sometimes it's good, most times it's not.

[repcak]

would you mind to post the poem?

[Otherside]

I'm not too great at poetry, but if I'm ever inspired I do try and write some of my thoughts down in free-form, just to remember what I felt at that time.

[Reywas]

please post the poem

[Rounder]

What other albums by Opeth should I get besides Ghost Reveries?

Blackwater Park.

[Txus]

I'm not a big poet but i really like to write a lot of stuff, this is one of my best and the longest poem i've ever written.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335668

[Prince of Darkness]

Tool Question:

In the 2002 Oklahoma Live Show, during Reflection(on part 2), MJK is playing an instrument. What is it?

[Magicaltroll]

Someone post another link to that 81st Chakra song again, I need it.

[G_Mac07]

The new Tool song, 81st Chakra.

hxxp://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ITUEZRR976GR18HRQ0SCXTMK8

Found one page back.

[Magicaltroll]

Sorry, I thought it didn't work, because my friend said there was an error, so I thought it expired.

Turns out he didn't put the "tt" in there :/

Sorry?

[G_Mac07]

:lol: Nah thats cool.

Until last week you were my closest musical neighbour on last.fm

/random info

[Magicaltroll]

Yeah, I remember that.
I've been listening to alot of Brutal Death/Metalcore stuff lately, so maybe that's why?

[G_Mac07]

I'd assume so, although now I have intentions of giving Pig Destroyer a good listen.

[Magicaltroll]

I'm still obsessed with that band :D

I got my friend into them too. It's pretty cool.

Only listen to Terrifyer and Prowler In The Yard though, the earlier stuff isn't that good :/

[misunderstood]

"Some of you having been emailing about the "Schism" DVD that's being advertised on several websites with a release date of December 20th. To answer your questions as to whether or not I can confirm this, the answer is that, while I can't confirm that EXACT date, the plan is to release a DVD featuring the videos for Schism and Parabol/Parabola with added extras (more details later) sometime in DECEMBER of this year. So, the December 20th date looks pretty good for the Sam Goody's type chains, and when more specifis become available to me, I'll post this additional info in the news section. PLEASE NOTE that this is NOT the (much anticipated) Tool live DVD, which will be released at some point, although exactly when is still a great unknown."

from toolband.com

[Kage]

At least it's some news, even if it's crappy news. :)

[misunderstood]

yeah, no kidding.

[Kage]

A Schism/Parabol/a DVD? Big deal. Let's get to the good stuff, ya know?

Random thought:
Billy Budd is quite possibly the worst novel I've ever read.

[Magicaltroll]

A Schism/Parabol/a DVD? Big deal. Let's get to the good stuff, ya know?

Random thought:
Billy Budd is quite possibly the worst novel I've ever read.
What's it about?

[misunderstood]

The most 'exciting' part was probably where he mentions that the actual live dvd will be released at some point. I was starting to lose hope already.

[Kage]

It's about this completely innocent, good-looking sailor whom everybody likes...except (the plot thickens!) of course, this one guy (Claggart) who is jealous of his good looks and charm. Now, Budd's innocence also leads him to be being very naieve, and never realizes that Claggart dislikes him through Claggart's subtle hints. Anyway, Budd is perfect except for one flaw: when he gets flustered or angry, he stutters severely. So Claggart, determined to extract revenge on Budd for nothing in particular, accuses Budd of rousing mutiny on the ship. When Budd is confronted, he is so angry and confused that he can't even speak, so he lashes out and kills Claggard. Despite the captain's love for Budd, he declares that he should be hung, blah blah blah.

And there's all this very thin, weak allegory to the story of Jesus Crist and Adam's fall from the garden of Eden. But, like I said, it's all very weak to me. And the author's explorations into the "nature of evil" through Claggart are so weak and un-insightful that it's laughable.

[Magicaltroll]

Hmm, sounds pretty bad.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So the Schism DVD isn't the same as the long-awaited live DVD? :upset: Lame. Still, new Tool excites me.

Has anyone in here read The Plague by Albert Camus? I am right now, and so far, it's pretty good.

[paganman7]

A DVD...with two video? You've got to be kidding me. The band decides to honor us with a $20 DVD containing two videos? Here's a thought: if the band wants to respect their loyal fans, maybe try releasing some information about the new album? I'm not talking about trade secrets, but maybe an estimate of a release date, or even recording status.

I've been a loyal Tool fan for many years, but this is just absurd and, quite frankly, disrespectful.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

the plan is to release a DVD featuring the videos for Schism and Parabol/Parabola with added extras (more details later)

Bolded text means it is rather important.

[Futuro]

Meh. I have both videos on my computer. They better pull something off to make me buy it.

Other news/ Collides first live DVD is coming out soon :D

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Collide, describe. How'd you download the videos on your fag connection? (and where from?)

[Futuro]

Collide, describe. How'd you download the videos on your fag connection? (and where from?) :lol: I extracted from a cd my friend made for me (He has a pimp connection)

Collide is this electronic, trippy band. I wouldn's say all there "Songs" are "Songs" But they are awsome to listen to. Danny carey played on a track for the latest "Normal" cd.

[BlindWriting]

You know, I could make a post about how displeased I am about how the nearest new Tool release is the Schism DVD, but I'd be contradicting myself because I know I'm going to buy it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

:lol: I extracted from a cd my friend made for me (He has a pimp connection)

Collide is this electronic, trippy band. I wouldn's say all there "Songs" are "Songs" But they are awsome to listen to. Danny carey played on a track for the latest "Normal" cd.

Whats the name of the track he played on? I'll search for it on Soulseek

BW- This is true, although I'm probably a lot happier about the release of the DVD than most Tool fans, because I've not seen one Tool music video. :-D

[One Groovin Clown]

Whats the name of the track he played on? I'll search for it on Soulseek

BW- This is true, although I'm probably a lot happier about the release of the DVD than most Tool fans, because I've not seen one Tool music video. :-D

You're missing out then. The onyl video i havn't seen from them is Parabola. I ahve schism on my computer and i ahve Salival.

[Futuro]

BW- This is true, although I'm probably a lot happier about the release of the DVD than most Tool fans, because I've not seen one Tool music video. :-D WTF?! Im finding this hard to believe (Irony coming from me?)

Whats the name of the track he played on? I'll search for it on Soulseek That is definetly not collides best song, but whatever (Best drumming maybe) The track he played on is called "Somewhere"

Also whenever Karen was mentioned on the Tool newsletters, That is the singer of collide.

The dude that programs the music for Triad, is also in collide (His name is Statik or sumthing)

[Kage]

You know, I could make a post about how displeased I am about how the nearest new Tool release is the Schism DVD, but I'd be contradicting myself because I know I'm going to buy it.
Haha. I most likely won't, because I'm really strapped for expendable cash in the wake of me buying a new guitar and saving up for a new amp. Unless it's something great, I won't be able to spend the money on it. As for the actual live DVD, I'll run to the store the day it comes out.

[misunderstood]

I've seen both videos as well and I'm more than sure I'll still end up getting it anyway. Who knows, since it's coming out around the holidays, I might just end up asking for it. Anything "new" is always good.

[ThePatient]

Anyone think they like money?

I was going to ask if any good news has come out since I've been working/schooling non-stop for two weeks, but it seems my question has been answered.

[BetweenTheEchoes]

Damn capitalism! I say Tool goes Socialist and just hands out albums to all their true fans. IE those who realize Eulogy is about Jesus not Bill Hicks, and that the lyrics to Reflection are a direct result of Maynard's shroom tripping.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Damn capitalism! I say Tool goes Socialist and just hands out albums to all their true fans. IE those who realize Eulogy is about Jesus not Bill Hicks, and that the lyrics to Reflection are a direct result of Maynard's shroom tripping.

What in the hell are you talking about?

[Cravinov13]

I liked A Perfect Circle more then Tool for a long time because Maynard's voice stood out more in APC. But I've grown a lot on Tool since then and can't wait for their new album to come out in 2006.

My favorite album is Aenima by far.

[Darkness]

I'll still end up buying this Schism DVD, as pathetic as it is... :upset:

[maggot4875]

A DVD...with two video? You've got to be kidding me. The band decides to honor us with a $20 DVD containing two videos? Here's a thought: if the band wants to respect their loyal fans, maybe try releasing some information about the new album? I'm not talking about trade secrets, but maybe an estimate of a release date, or even recording status.

I've been a loyal Tool fan for many years, but this is just absurd and, quite frankly, disrespectful.

tool doesnt have anything to do with the price the store thats selling it does.and if you dont want to buy it dont buy it,that simple

[bwnstl]

Damn capitalism! I say Tool goes Socialist and just hands out albums to all their true fans. IE those who realize Eulogy is about Jesus not Bill Hicks, and that the lyrics to Reflection are a direct result of Maynard's shroom tripping.

You are a moron.

Besides, I've never known of anyone who thought Eulogy was about Bill Hicks; most commonly it's referred to L. Ron Hubbard, although I have heard the Jesus idea.

But that doesn't matter, because the lyrics are open to interpretation, so shove a sock down your throat.

[Reywas]

You are a moron.

Besides, I've never known of anyone who thought Eulogy was about Bill Hicks; most commonly it's referred to L. Ron Hubbard, although I have heard the Jesus idea.

But that doesn't matter, because the lyrics are open to interpretation, so shove a sock down your throat.

You're wrong.Nobody says it's about L.Ron Hubbard.

[Red Cow]

You're wrong.Nobody says it's about L.Ron Hubbard.I think the piont he was making is that its open to interpertation and thats HIS opinion. Unless Maynard told somebody(and hed probly be jokeing)theres no way of knowing and Maynard stressed in many interviews songs are open to interpertation. Oh and i cant wait for the Schism DVD.

[paganman7]

Tool doesnt have anything to do with the price the store thats selling it does.and if you dont want to buy it dont buy it,that simple

Indeed. The DVD could be $5, and I'd still miffed that the band presume that they are honoring us with a DVD with two videos. After months of speculation about releases of various items, they "quench" our curiosity with two videos? I'm less than impressed.

And to your comment that if I don't like it, I don't have to buy it: that's profoundly suggestive. I hadn't actually believed that I had an option of not purchasing this nonsense until you said something. Thanks mate, you've changed my life.

Please don't get me wrong. I've been a huge fan for over a decade. It's just frustrating to be patronized by a band whose talent you respect so much.

[Dude3]

I'm not planning on getting this dvd at all. Same with the live one, although I'll probably rent it.

I'm at home on a Friday night while all of my other friends are at either a party or a concert. This sucks. Although, I am making some good process on the first song I'm writing for my band. I went down from Drop-d to Drop-c in the tunings. I don't know why, but the tone you get when you play drop-c type stuff is just awesome to me. Its basically a metalcore song too.

I'm thinking more progressively in writing style, and not necessarily having a chorous to the song. Maybe a few similar melodies here and there guitar wise, but you know what I mean. Its much harder writing in this style, but the outcome should be good. I'm now writing the breakdown(1st one at least) which is going good, but I'm lost as to where to go after that. Mainly, I'm trying to decide if I should have a solo or not. I'm not sure if I should. This is friken hard to decide on. I used to be all about the solos, but now realized that a lot of them are just useless wankage that only takes away from the song. If I don't do a solo though, I'll probably put in some melodic guitar harmonies and the sort. I don't know. It'll probably come out completely different than I'm thinking.

[Magicaltroll]

I'm not planning on getting this dvd at all. Same with the live one, although I'll probably rent it.

I'm at home on a Friday night while all of my other friends are at either a party or a concert. This sucks. Although, I am making some good process on the first song I'm writing for my band.
I know how it is man, this is one of the only weekends I've got out of the house.
And Drop-C rules, it's what I use for Animal Corpse stuff.

And yeah, that style of writing is ALOT better, and more challenging for the musician too, and I like that.

I'm interested in hearing the song when it gets recorded.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Im really suprised there's so much negative reaction to this DVD news. Did we all miss the 'added extras' bit? I would think there must be something of worthy note there, ranging from behind the scenes pictures of a shoot, to a Merkaba style track. Who knows.....

Plus im quite happy to get the full Tool video collection (legally) on my shelf, so I have no problem with buying it.

[Kage]

Im really suprised there's so much negative reaction to this DVD news. Did we all miss the 'added extras' bit? I would think there must be something of worthy note there, ranging from behind the scenes pictures of a shoot, to a Merkaba style track. Who knows.....
When they don't elaborate on what the "added extras" are, it usually means it's some interview with the band answering questions we've all heard the answers to before. Especially when they say NEW TOOL DVD WITH PARABOLA VIDEO and some added extras.

[Dude3]

I know how it is man, this is one of the only weekends I've got out of the house.
And Drop-C rules, it's what I use for Animal Corpse stuff.

And yeah, that style of writing is ALOT better, and more challenging for the musician too, and I like that.

I'm interested in hearing the song when it gets recorded.
This song probably won't be too progy now that I get further into it. Maybe I'll save that for some other songs. I don't know, I'll see where it goes.

Right now I'm deciding if I should put the breakdown after the chorous(I probably won't actually repeat the chorous at all, but its kinda catchy like a chorous so I'm calling it that), or put another verse(a more melodic one) before that.

I'd say the song is somewhat Unearth style. Well, just metalcore style really. And I'm still wondering if I should do a solo, and if I do, where to put it. Hmmmm...

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'd like it if a Tool pulled "Dredg" and released it as a promo.


Then again, Tool could probably do with a little less promotion, considering the majority of their fanbase. :p

[bwnstl]

You're wrong.Nobody says it's about L.Ron Hubbard.

toolshed.down.net
go to the FAQ
Go to question G27.

If by "nobody" you mean "Danny Carey"

[Prince of Darkness]

Catching on with new Tool news is confusing!

So, am i right here...
...The Live DVD is still coming out, but no date has been given, unlike the Schism DVD, that kinda has a release date-ish, but it's gonna suck.
Am I on the right track here?

[Kage]

Exactly.

[Prince of Darkness]

But that's not bad news! What are you all complaining about? The live dvd is still coming out, we just have to be patient.

[Kage]

We all knew the live DVD was coming out, it's no surprise. The DVD that has a more secure release date is a peice of crap, unless those "added extras" are amazing.

[Prince of Darkness]

I bet those extras are good...Tool always have a few suprises hanging around. If you don't believe me: Lateralus.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Perhaps in the extras, they'll talk about their cool barbecues they have. :rolleyes:

[Darkness]

Perhaps in the extras, they'll talk about their cool barbecues they have. :rolleyes:
Or all the different kind of guns they have in their studio.

[paganman7]

We all knew the live DVD was coming out, it's no surprise. The DVD that has a more secure release date is a peice of crap, unless those "added extras" are amazing.


I agree completely...well said mate.

The most recent update on the official website indicates that Adam may not have time to sit in on some other projects because he is working on album art and video related stuff. Does this suggest that recording is finished? Blair didn't say he was busy recording, but with artwork.

[Kage]

I agree completely...well said mate.

The most recent update on the official website indicates that Adam may not have time to sit in on some other projects because he is working on album art and video related stuff. Does this suggest that recording is finished? Blair didn't say he was busy recording, but with artwork.
Hmm..I'd say that's a good guess. I bet the recording is done, but perhaps not all the production, mixing, and mastering is done yet. Who knows?

[Darkness]

I agree completely...well said mate.

The most recent update on the official website indicates that Adam may not have time to sit in on some other projects because he is working on album art and video related stuff. Does this suggest that recording is finished? Blair didn't say he was busy recording, but with artwork.
The recording has been done for some time.

[Kage]

The recording has been done for some time.
I guess I missed that update.

[Darkness]

I guess I missed that update.
We knew that a while ago, Blair keeps talking about how its done and hes heard it 1000 times, and that they've just been doing the other things like artwork and what not.

[Kage]

Ah, well I never read the official site. I knew he heard it, I thought he meant the band actually performing the songs. Whatever.

Tool sucks.

[Wave.Existance.Tears]

An avid Tool fan, I choose to ignore Blair by this point :DD

[SmashingPumpkin]

An avid Tool fan, I choose to ignore Blair by this point :DD
Good choice.

And as for the DVD, I look forward to the "extras" as well as the videos because I just want them for whatever purposes.

[Wave.Existance.Tears]

I personally think we deserve a documentary or something juicy like that rather than stuff thats easily obtained via internet that is turned into a money grabbing collector's item. D@mnit.

...

YOU SUCK, TOOL!

[SmashingPumpkin]

I personally think we deserve a documentary or something juicy like that rather than stuff thats easily obtained via internet that is turned into a money grabbing collector's item. D@mnit.

...

YOU SUCK, TOOL!
Hey, you never know what the "extra" will be, it could very well be a documentary for all we know.

[paganman7]

I'm a little confused. When Tool were finished recording Lateralus, they released a statement. It was January 23rd (I believe). They even released an album title, Systeme Encepahle (or something to that effect), although it was clearly changed. I have two statements to make in light of this information:

1. They finished recording 5 months before Lateralus was released. Does this mean that we have to wait 5 months in post-production?

2. If they are finished recording, why not tell us? Why all of the secrecy?

[Spiritofmosa]

2. If they are finished recording, why not tell us? Why all of the secrecy?

this band takes album release very seriously. in fact too seriously

[Knifeboy]

all I hope is that this dvd isn't some limited edition thing... I hate when they do that, because it makes it impossible to get a hold of here in Denmark to a decent price

[Artemician]

this band takes album release very seriously. in fact too seriously

You pretty much have to at this point. What with albums leaking weeks before their official release and everything.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

At this point, I'm just going to forget about Tool. Then, when I get some new music by the band, I'll be much happier. :)

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

You pretty much have to at this point. What with albums leaking weeks before their official release and everything.

Exactly. I'm still trying to figure out how the new Disturbed album was leaked out on in the internet about 2 months before it came out.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

So the Schism DVD is coming out Dec. 20 and the live one is coming when? march?

I need more Tool! (nohomo)

[Darkness]

March? I'm pretty sure its in January.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Where'd you hear March, Muffin boy? :p

[Moses]

March? I'm pretty sure its in January.
I don't think albums come out in January.....

Kage, you should change your name to:

You end where I bend...... (penis reference)

[something erotic]

Kage, you should change your name to:

You end where I bend...... (penis reference)


:lollies:

[Kage]

Kage, you should change your name to:

You end where I bend...... (penis reference)
:lol: My name? Or usertitle?

[ThunderBass]

lol you can change both if you like.... :P

[Moses]

:lol: My name? Or usertitle?
Yeah that's what I meant. Haven't been on MX in a while and a half.

[Futuro]

(art design and video stuff). The Almuchefi has been a little off lately*, but I thought I saw a SilverBurst... Guess we'll just have to wait and see. Hmmm... Preformance video? Silver burst guitar. It is hard to tell if he changed subjects in his newest update. Makes me wonder.....

[paganman7]

The Schism DVD is listed at Sam Goody and Amazon.

Enjoy:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C3L2S4/103-5206720-4011031?v=glance&n=130

[SmashingPumpkin]

The Schism DVD is listed at Sam Goody and Amazon.

Enjoy:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C3L2S4/103-5206720-4011031?v=glance&n=130Thanks. Maybe it really is coming out the 20th....

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Hmmm... Preformance video? Silver burst guitar. It is hard to tell if he changed subjects in his newest update. Makes me wonder.....

Wow. A song will be played in B tuning. This made my day. Yay.

Hey, at least the DVD will only be ten bucks, though. :p

[BlindWriting]

The Schism DVD is listed at Sam Goody and Amazon.

Enjoy:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C3L2S4/103-5206720-4011031?v=glance&n=130
Hopefully we get some real details soon though.

[Trintar_VIII]

Well, the fact that it's $10 and not $20 probably means that there isn't too much content on it. Oh well, I'll buy it anyways.

[Futuro]

Wow. A song will be played in B tuning. This made my day. Yay. UGH! I Hate when guitarist downtune to B. Why not just play a 7 string?

[Kage]

Wow. A song will be played in B tuning. This made my day. Yay.
I thought his Silverburst was in Drop D tuning?

I don't want him to go to B. I prefer the regular Drop D signature sound that I'm used to. I hope he isn't too low on the album for very many songs.

[Darkness]

UGH! I Hate when guitarist downtune to B. Why not just play a 7 string?
Because there untr00, sept in Nevermores case.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I thought his Silverburst was in Drop D tuning?

I don't want him to go to B. I prefer the regular Drop D signature sound that I'm used to. I hope he isn't too low on the album for very many songs.
Yeah, you're right. I got em backwards. :upset:


Greenburst, Siverburst, whatever. It's all the same to me. :p

[Kage]

A lot of people don't like the feel of a seven string. If you tune it down, it keeps the feel of the six-string with a seven string sound. Of course, Adam doesn't do it properly, so when he plays songs in B, the intonation of the guitar is completely different. It could be a bad thing, but he makes it not. :)

Yeah, you're right. I got em backwards. :upset:


Greenburst, Siverburst, whatever. It's all the same to me. :p
Yeah, that's what I thought. Because I was pretty sure the Silverburst was his main axe, and he doesn't play in B that often. :shrug:

[Darkness]

A lot of people don't like the feel of a seven string. If you tune it down, it keeps the feel of the six-string with a seven string sound. Of course, Adam doesn't do it properly, so when he plays songs in B, the intonation of the guitar is completely different. It could be a bad thing, but he makes it not. :)
I heard he tried out a sevan string once, but didn't like it the feel of it, which would proove your first sentance correct.

[S@R@H]

Tool rocks !

[Kage]

No they don't. Didn't you read that this thread is soley for bashing Tool and how much they suck?

[BlindWriting]

Meg White > Danny Carey

[YDload]

The last song that Tool tuned down to B was "Parabola" and that's pretty much their best song ever so I say go for it!

[Darkness]

The last song that Tool tuned down to B was "Parabola" and that's pretty much their best song ever so I say go for it!
Yeah, all their drop b songs were jems.

[Omar Keenan]

SO, you may or may not recognize me, but I'm Maynard James Keenan (the user). I had my account hacked by Chad.

Any news other than the DVD?

[Darkness]

Why did he hack you? :confused:

[Omar Keenan]

I clicked a link :upset:

He didn't hack me.......I was just banned for having it stolen.

[Darkness]

Oh... Ok.

No, no new news really, theres the Schism dvd out December 20th, and we were just talking about how Adam uses Drop B tuning instead of just playing a sevan string.

[Magicaltroll]

No they don't. Didn't you read that this thread is soley for bashing Tool and how much they suck?
Duh.

If Tool was any lamer, I'd die.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

A lot of people don't like the feel of a seven string. If you tune it down, it keeps the feel of the six-string with a seven string sound. Of course, Adam doesn't do it properly, so when he plays songs in B, the intonation of the guitar is completely different. It could be a bad thing, but he makes it not. :)


Could you further explain this?

I have a tab for Parabola, and the tuning is B E D G B E. In other words, the lowest 2 strings are dropped down, but the higher 4 remain the same. Is this what you were referring to, or is the tab that I have just wrong?

///

All their drop B songs = Prison Sex and Parabola, right?

[Kage]

Could you further explain this?

I have a tab for Parabola, and the tuning is B E D G B E. In other words, the lowest 2 strings are dropped down, but the higher 4 remain the same. Is this what you were referring to, or is the tab that I have just wrong?

///

All their drop B songs = Prison Sex and Parabola, right?
Yeah, that's what I was talking about. It's kind of a conceptual thing, that when you hear/feel it, you'd know what I was talking about, but it's hard to explain. I don't know the exact gauge strings Adam uses, but I'd guess he uses 10s, which are designed for standard E or Drop D tuning. When you tune down so low as B, the string becomes really lax and loses the tension it had, thus shifting the action on the guitar lower and giving the intonation and sound of the notes a different tone. It sounds "looser" so-to-speak.

To do it properly, you would have to buy thicker gauged strings that are designed to be that low, and adjust the nut of the guitar to work with those guages.

Adam just tunes the strings down, and doesn't use the thicker gauge strings and adjust his guitar accordingly. In this way, the intonation and tone on Adam's guitar when he uses that tuning is quite different, but it sounds really cool, in my opinion.

[Futuro]

No they don't. Didn't you read that this thread is soley for bashing Tool and how much they suck? Tom Jones could learn to play the guitar though.

Meg White > Danny Carey123, Dana Carvey is funny, but no where near the talent of Meg Ryan.

The last song that Tool tuned down to B was "Parabola" and that's pretty much their best song ever so I say go for it! That is my favorite, off Lateralus. But H. Still makes my knees weak <3

[BetweenTheEchoes]

Just a quick question.

I noticed some posts back when I said something about Eulogy and then something about Maynard tripping out on shrooms, some ****ing idiot neg repped me. Now, honestly, I could give a **** less about this whole rep system thing, but I'm trying to figure out if it's the part about Eulogy or the part about shrooms that offended this loser?

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Just a quick question.

I noticed some posts back when I said something about Eulogy and then something about Maynard tripping out on shrooms, some ****ing idiot neg repped me. Now, honestly, I could give a **** less about this whole rep system thing, but I'm trying to figure out if it's the part about Eulogy or the part about shrooms that offended this loser?

Probably your ignorance.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

lol a bunch ov tools lissen to tool how apprpriete

[sol]

dude, learn to spell. people who listen to and appreciate tool also generally tend to have at least an above average IQ and the ability to spell.

[Kurrpt]

dude, learn to spell. people who listen to tool also generally tend to have at least an above average IQ and the ability to spell.


dude, shut up, you are better then NO ONE :thumb:


the ability to spell does not reflect IQ

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

lol a bunch ov tools lissen to tool how apprpriete

i noes! why dunt they mediatite awlredy or sumthin!

[repcak]

hm... i uses 9strings (to 42) and i had always problems with downtuning. can you explain me, what strings are good for downtuning... C for example? any experience, any tips?!

SOL yore teh man^°°!! :lol:

[sol]

I've had good luck with ernie ball skinny top-heavy bottoms. In fact I play nothing but ernie ball but thats probably because I'm to lazy to drive forty five minutes to get anything else.

[Dude3]

I guess I might as well ask in here, seeing as a lot of Tool fans like these guys.

I'm looking for some t-shirts of Pelican. If you have any links of some websites that see them, it would be appreciated if you posted them.
Thanks!

[Futuro]

This has nothing to do with tool really....But, Im playing the finals tonight at Guitar Centers Drumoff. Im thinking of doing something loosely based on the 46&2 solo. Wish me luck fellas' :)

[Darkness]

This has nothing to do with tool really....But, Im playing the finals tonight at Guitar Centers Drumoff. Im thinking of doing something loosely based on the 46&2 solo. Wish me luck fellas' :)
Good luck d00d.

[Huber]

This has nothing to do with tool really....But, Im playing the finals tonight at Guitar Centers Drumoff. Im thinking of doing something loosely based on the 46&2 solo. Wish me luck fellas' :)

Good luck.

Is it one of those weekly one they do? I joined one once. I thought I did good, but the guy who beat me deserved it. He was amazing, and younger than me too.

[Kage]

I guess I might as well ask in here, seeing as a lot of Tool fans like these guys.

I'm looking for some t-shirts of Pelican. If you have any links of some websites that see them, it would be appreciated if you posted them.
Thanks!
https://secure.bluecollardistro.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=HHI&Category_Code=TEXTILES

Some really awesome shirts there. I'm thinking about picking a few up myself. Scroll down to find the Pelican ones.

[Futuro]

Is it one of those weekly one they do? I joined one once. I thought I did good, but the guy who beat me deserved it. He was amazing, and younger than me too. Nah, they do it for 3 weeks at the store. The winners then go back in a month (Where im am going) If you win there you go to A selected place in your region, Then finally hollywood. :) I have only made it to the second stage, but im doing it just for fun.

[Dude3]

https://secure.bluecollardistro.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=HHI&Category_Code=TEXTILES

Some really awesome shirts there. I'm thinking about picking a few up myself. Scroll down to find the Pelican ones.
Link isn't working man.

And good luck Marshall!

[YDload]

Does Guitar Center have Bass-offs as well? Because I'd imagine the only bassists able to woo the crowd would be the ones who do lots of slapping and popping.

Dammit why does it have to sound so damn impressive to everyone. Even me :(

[Kage]

Odd...just go there:

http://www.hydraheadshop.com/

Click on Textiles.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Does Guitar Center have Bass-offs as well? Because I'd imagine the only bassists able to woo the crowd would be the ones who do lots of slapping and popping.

Dammit why does it have to sound so damn impressive to everyone. Even me :(

Slapping and popping gets lame really fast, imo.

[Kage]

It doesn't impress me at all.

[Britton]

I'm not a huge fan of slapping and popping either

[YDload]

Slapping and popping is a lot of fun if you have no amp and want to hear yourself playing better. I wish I was better at it, but I'm mainly focusing on building up my two-finger speed like Steve Harris.

I don't use a pick but it sounds good when guys like Chris Squire and Justin Chancellor do it. Except for the times when JPJ and Entwistle also chose to use picks, there are really no other pick players that I really enjoy.

[Britton]

I play with a pick on occassion. But I prefer to use my fingers


Maybe I don't like slapping and popping cause I suck at them...

although I still don't really enjoy even good slapping and good popping

[Dude3]

Odd...just go there:

http://www.hydraheadshop.com/

Click on Textiles.
Shhhiiiiittt, NICE! Thanks man,

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I play with a pick on occassion. But I prefer to use my fingers


Maybe I don't like slapping and popping cause I suck at them...

although I still don't really enjoy even good slapping and good popping

It just doesn't really seem like bass to me. Sometimes I like the sound of it, but like I said, it gets lame really fast. I love the way Geddy Lee plays bass, and he plays with speed in certain songs, but he's still playing it like a bass. Slapping and popping in rock music is just really obtrusive, in my opinion.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Just a quick question.

I noticed some posts back when I said something about Eulogy and then something about Maynard tripping out on shrooms, some ****ing idiot neg repped me. Now, honestly, I could give a **** less about this whole rep system thing, but I'm trying to figure out if it's the part about Eulogy or the part about shrooms that offended this loser?

It was me who negged you. The "****ing idiot" is you. It was neither the Eulogy comment nor the shrooms comment, but your overall idiocy and the incoherence of your post that brought me to neg you. Have a nice day. Gtfo. :)

[Dude3]

And now to give you something to look at, help me decide on which Dillinger shirt to get. I'm mainly looking at the 2 green ones.

http://www.infinity1.com/bcat.asp?flt=303&cat=119

And while we're at it, which Pelican and/or Isis shirt?

http://www.hydraheadshop.com/

Go to textiles, like Kage said.

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[Dude3]

^C'mon, I know someboyd has an opinion. I mean, we ARE Tool fans.

[Otherside]

http://www.infinity1.com/%5CImages%5CTSHIRT%5C41369f.jpg

I like that one, or the green one with the tower.. rocket.. thing.
As for Pelican.. I'd get this one: https://secure.bluecollardistro.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=HH-PELICAN-SHIRT-06&Category_Code=TEXTILES&Store_Code=HHI

On the subject of T-Shirts, anyone know of any websites at all with Explosions in the Sky shirts?

[Dude3]

Crap, all of the best Isis shirts are out of stock.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Do you guys remember those rumors of Adrian Belew, Danny Carey, and Les Claypool making music together? Well, it's true, and it's on one of Adrian Belew's solo albums. I'm currently downloading "Writing on the Wall" and I would encourage you Tool fans to do so. :)

[YDload]

Do you guys remember those rumors of Adrian Belew, Danny Carey, and Les Claypool making music together? Well, it's true, and it's on one of Adrian Belew's solo albums. I'm currently downloading "Writing on the Wall" and I would encourage you Tool fans to do so. :)

Wow, Claypool and Carey are awesome. I don't think Les has ever sat in with a bad drummer in his life.

Oh wait, he auditioned for Metallica didn't he?

[Darkness]

Do you guys remember those rumors of Adrian Belew, Danny Carey, and Les Claypool making music together? Well, it's true, and it's on one of Adrian Belew's solo albums. I'm currently downloading "Writing on the Wall" and I would encourage you Tool fans to do so. :)
Wasn't that brought up a while back, and faith+1 I think said he owned it or something.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

YD- :lol:

Mike- Oh, did he? I thought that, at the time it was brought up, it was still in the "rumor" stage. Meh, still figured I'd share, heh.

[Dude3]

https://secure.bluecollardistro.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=HH-ISIS-SHIRT-05&Category_Code=TEXTILES&Store_Code=HHI

You'll get soo much e-sex if you find that shirt in-stock somewhere.


And more opinions on the Pelican shirta would be appreciated. Its down between these 2:

https://secure.bluecollardistro.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=HH-PELICAN-SHIRT-06&Category_Code=TEXTILES&Store_Code=HHI

OR

https://secure.bluecollardistro.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=HH-PELICAN-SHIRT-05&Category_Code=TEXTILES&Store_Code=HHI

[Kage]

Nice, man, those are the two Pelican shirts I was considering as well. In the end, I went with the first one because 1) that one absolutely rules, and 2) I like the color, because I need more shirts that aren't black.

I'm also getting a Mare shirt and an Isis shirt. Actually, I'll probably get a Mare hooded sweat, a Pelican shirt, and an Isis shirt.

[Otherside]

I want a EITS shirt, but I don't think they exist :upset:

[Dude3]

I want that green Isis shirt sooo bad. I wish they had them in-stock.

[BetweenTheEchoes]

It was me who negged you. The "****ing idiot" is you. It was neither the Eulogy comment nor the shrooms comment, but your overall idiocy and the incoherence of your post that brought me to neg you. Have a nice day. Gtfo. :)

Oh, I'm sorry. Since when did sarcasm and randomness become a crime?

But by the way, since you wasted your life points negging me, it merely proves that you have fallen victim to an elitist system created by imperialistic ideals brought about through idiosyncratic beliefs such as "authority" and a heriarchal(think I spelled that wrong...) ladder. So have a nice day being a TOOL of the system.

Hell, in fact, neg me again. I'd positively love it.

[BetweenTheEchoes]

I do have a question though.

Does anyone know of a place besides MX where I can get good drum tabs of Tool songs? A lot of Carrey's drumming is very subliminal, and it's hard to find good tabs on it.

[randomthought9]

Yeah, that's what I was talking about. It's kind of a conceptual thing, that when you hear/feel it, you'd know what I was talking about, but it's hard to explain. I don't know the exact gauge strings Adam uses, but I'd guess he uses 10s, which are designed for standard E or Drop D tuning. When you tune down so low as B, the string becomes really lax and loses the tension it had, thus shifting the action on the guitar lower and giving the intonation and sound of the notes a different tone. It sounds "looser" so-to-speak.

To do it properly, you would have to buy thicker gauged strings that are designed to be that low, and adjust the nut of the guitar to work with those guages.

Adam just tunes the strings down, and doesn't use the thicker gauge strings and adjust his guitar accordingly. In this way, the intonation and tone on Adam's guitar when he uses that tuning is quite different, but it sounds really cool, in my opinion.

Really? That's crazy. He actually tunes that low w/ 10's? I tried tuning drop C with 10's once, and it sounded like sh*t! Imagine that in drop B. I thought he used a 7 string, but I guess I'm wrong.

[Rounder]

Nah, they do it for 3 weeks at the store. The winners then go back in a month (Where im am going) If you win there you go to A selected place in your region, Then finally hollywood. :) I have only made it to the second stage, but im doing it just for fun.

Good Luck. I made it to the regonials, where we played at the House of Blues in Orlando. (My feet on the same ground as DT, 311, G3.....)

At the local finals one of the judges was the bass player from Live. I got to hang with him and he told me i was a pretty good guitar player...:smoke:

[bwnstl]

Oh, I'm sorry. Since when did sarcasm and randomness become a crime?

But by the way, since you wasted your life points negging me, it merely proves that you have fallen victim to an elitist system created by imperialistic ideals brought about through idiosyncratic beliefs such as "authority" and a heriarchal(think I spelled that wrong...) ladder. So have a nice day being a TOOL of the system.

Hell, in fact, neg me again. I'd positively love it.

Wow. Since when did using phrases like "elitist system," "imperialistic ideals," and "idiosyncratic beliefs" make you an intellectual? Especially describing an internet forum? GG moron. You pretty much insulted the entire forum with your wannabe-intellectual bull****, and then you ask us where to find tabs? Are you seriously retarded?

[Futuro]

Good Luck. I made it to the regonials, where we played at the House of Blues in Orlando. (My feet on the same ground as DT, 311, G3.....) Awsome man! I didnt make it to Regionals :( The left foot clave slipped off the bracket!

[Kage]

Oh, I'm sorry. Since when did sarcasm and randomness become a crime?

But by the way, since you wasted your life points negging me, it merely proves that you have fallen victim to an elitist system created by imperialistic ideals brought about through idiosyncratic beliefs such as "authority" and a heriarchal(think I spelled that wrong...) ladder. So have a nice day being a TOOL of the system.
Wow, what a load of complete garbage. You're going to have to do more than throw some big words together to impress people here. You've got to have rules and some kind of leadership to keep a place like this from falling apart, nice try you jackass.

I do have a question though.

Does anyone know of a place besides MX where I can get good drum tabs of Tool songs? A lot of Carrey's drumming is very subliminal, and it's hard to find good tabs on it.
You come in here and start (trying to) bash one of the most respected/coolest regulars in this thread and elsewhere and then expect us to answer a question? Nice try.

[sol]

no offense but since I joined I've noticed that people on these threads are too goddam touchy. no offense to anyone but arent we here to discuss Tool? not thats its not normal to get pissed off at some jackass but too much just kills a thread.

[Kurrpt]

no offense but since I joined I've noticed that people on these threads are too goddam touchy. no offense to anyone but arent we here to discuss Tool? not thats its not normal to get pissed off at some jackass but too much just kills a thread.


i have to say, ive read more then 20% of your posts, and its all bitching...



if you dont like the current topic of discussion, or lack there of, start one yourself

[sol]

i have to say, ive read more then 20% of your posts, and its all bitching...



if you dont like the current topic of discussion, or lack there of, start one yourself

dude. you viewed 20% of my posts? I have seven. thats like 1.4 posts. so one of my posts was bitching. go ahead. neg rep me. I could give seven ****s. it wasnt like I was even trying to start anything here. just the opposite in fact. so, new topic you say? has anyone seen the video of Maynard kicking some fans *** on stage when the idiot runs up and trys to hug him? I had a link at one point but cant seem to find it. if anyone else could produce one it would be helpful

[something erotic]

dude. you viewed 20% of my posts? I have seven. thats like 1.4 posts. so one of my posts was bitching. go ahead. neg rep me. I could give seven ****s. it wasnt like I was even trying to start anything here. just the opposite in fact. so, new topic you say? has anyone seen the video of Maynard kicking some fans *** on stage when the idiot runs up and trys to hug him? I had a link at one point but cant seem to find it. if anyone else could produce one it would be helpful

Everyone has seen that.

[BetweenTheEchoes]

Everyone has seen that.

See, it's this kind of assholishness that he's talking about. The man merely asked if anyone had seen the video, yet you feel the need to reply to him with a condescending post.

Oh and BTW in case a lot of you thought the words were too big and didn't realize what I was talking about, I was referring mainly to the rep system, not the forum as a whole or everyone in general on it. So while you made fun of me using "big words" I guess you had a hard time understanding them too huh?

[something erotic]

:rolleyes:

[Kurrpt]

dude. you viewed 20% of my posts? I have seven. thats like 1.4 posts. so one of my posts was bitching. go ahead. neg rep me. I could give seven ****s. it wasnt like I was even trying to start anything here. just the opposite in fact. so, new topic you say? has anyone seen the video of Maynard kicking some fans *** on stage when the idiot runs up and trys to hug him? I had a link at one point but cant seem to find it. if anyone else could produce one it would be helpful


haha i dont neg rep dude...

and like i said, if you dont like the topic of discussion, bounce to another thread, ignore it, or try to change it.

[Kage]

See, it's this kind of assholishness that he's talking about. The man merely asked if anyone had seen the video, yet you feel the need to reply to him with a condescending post.

Oh and BTW in case a lot of you thought the words were too big and didn't realize what I was talking about, I was referring mainly to the rep system, not the forum as a whole or everyone in general on it. So while you made fun of me using "big words" I guess you had a hard time understanding them too huh?
No, I understood exactly what you said. Trouble is, you were waaay too general and your thesarus skills too poor (either that or you're fresh out of eighth grade or ninth grade history class) to be talking about any subject in specific. Again, nice try, but before you try to expand your vocabulary, make sure youc an do it effectively. You may be able to place the words together in some form of vague coherence, but that does not mean it will be effective, as you proved with your post.

[bwnstl]

See, it's this kind of assholishness that he's talking about. The man merely asked if anyone had seen the video, yet you feel the need to reply to him with a condescending post.

Oh and BTW in case a lot of you thought the words were too big and didn't realize what I was talking about, I was referring mainly to the rep system, not the forum as a whole or everyone in general on it. So while you made fun of me using "big words" I guess you had a hard time understanding them too huh?

As Kage just said, you may be able to use big words, but that doesn't mean you can use them correctly. Thank you, come again.

[Futuro]

Does anyone know of a place besides MX where I can get good drum tabs of Tool songs? A lot of Carrey's drumming is very subliminal, and it's hard to find good tabs on it. If you are going to look at tabs for a tool song, you are not good enough yet. Spend time on Rudiments, or something that matters. Than learn the songs by ear once it is trained. Playing to a song isnt learning to drum. There are basic fundamentals, as with anything that are more important than learning a passage to a track.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Everyone has seen that.

I haven't, but I'm an exception. Dialup isn't internet any more. :upset:

Fag who says I got owned by the idiosyncratic system of anty-functioning hypocratic-orkiness aka "BetweenTheCheeksof-his-own-mom"- Wow.

Everyone who e-raped this man for having no brain- Great going. Further proving my point, anyhow. :p

Marshall, what did you end up playing in the drum off?

[Killtacular]

Everyone has seen that.
I haven't.
:(

[Darkness]

I haven't.
:(
I can send through msn, if you want.

[something erotic]

I haven't.
:(
:amaze:

I haven't, but I'm an exception. Dialup isn't internet any more. :upset:

:lol:

[deadinholywood]

please! i deleted my clip :upset:
dead_in_holywood@hotmail.com
Thanks! :thumb:

[bwnstl]

I would like that clip.

bjwumr AT gmail DOT com

[Spiritofmosa]

i wnat to see that clip
amos_amplified@hotmail.com

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

How big is the file? If you choose to YSI it, you might as well send it to me.

spiralout7@gmail.com

If you just end up sending it to me people via msn, then never mind. It's probably not worth my time in the first place, heh.

[Futuro]

Marshall, what did you end up playing in the drum off? Basically had to improv my *** off. I kept breaking everything! The bass pedal slid off the first clave bracket. I broke the Rod on the second bracket. After that I got pissed and said screw it, Then I played with no "feel", as fast as I could, REALLY LOUD to show my anger :lol:

I did throw in some tool style fills and grooves, I basically did the grudge tom groove if it was written in 11/8 (Did a little something different)

I haven't, but I'm an exception. Dialup isn't internet any more. Yeah, it sucks man! Im getting tired of this crap! 3 kb per second. And when i surf while Dl'n it goes to 1.4 :Purpledudeinshock:

[Darkness]

Whoa, I didn't relise I was sending to everybody... I better start uploading...

The file is 21.8 MBs.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Mike- Never mind, then. :upset: My max is 10 now. Spyware++

Marshall- That still sounds cool, heh. How long do you get to play for, and what did the guy who won perform?

[Darkness]

You should get that spyware fixed dude, I'd be happy to recommend you some programs and help you out if you want. That stuff drives me crazy.