Tool

[something erotic]

/adds Jakez0rz

[Kage]

http://www.myspace.com/ridethespirals
Wow, I was really digging that Dream Theater song you have in your profile...but then it just got really bad. Man, it irritates me that Dream Theater squash the potential to make great music just for the sake of virtuosity. It was really cool when it was a simple build up, and then they go into the complex, intricate guitar parts and it sounds like complete junk.

[something erotic]

Wow, I was really digging that Dream Theater song you have in your profile...but then it just got really bad. Man, it irritates me that Dream Theater squash the potential to make great music just for the sake of virtuosity. It was really cool when it was a simple build up, and then they go into the complex, intricate guitar parts and it sounds like complete junk.

....then don't listen to much of anything else. If you think they're acting virtuostic there, then you'll really despise all their other stuff.

[Huber]

I haven't heard that song before, it's awesome IMO. What album is it on?

[Kage]

....then don't listen to much of anything else. If you think they're acting virtuostic there, then you'll really despise all their other stuff.
I know, I've tried many times to get into Dream Theater. I just don't like them at all for some reason. I wasn't trying to knock you or anything, I was just giving my opinion on Dream Theater. Sorry if I came across like an *** or something.

[Dude3]

Here' mine(add me guys):

http://www.myspace.com/14190229

Check out the totally awesome vid I have on there. I'm totally seeing that band on Friday!

[something erotic]

I know, I've tried many times to get into Dream Theater. I just don't like them at all for some reason. I wasn't trying to knock you or anything, I was just giving my opinion on Dream Theater. Sorry if I came across like an *** or something.

You didn't, you're fine. To each his own, I guess.

I haven't heard that song before, it's awesome IMO. What album is it on?

Scenes From A Memory

[Kage]

Here' mine(add me guys):

http://www.myspace.com/14190229

Check out the totally awesome vid I have on there. I'm totally seeing that band on Friday!
I don't see a video :confused:

[Dude3]

I don't see a video :confused:
Go down. Its in Quicktime though, so that might cause a problem for some people.

[something erotic]

Go down. Its in Quicktime though, so that might cause a problem for some people.

Nice occupation :lol:

[Dude3]

Nice occupation :lol:
Why, thank you :p

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Wow, I was really digging that Dream Theater song you have in your profile...but then it just got really bad. Man, it irritates me that Dream Theater squash the potential to make great music just for the sake of virtuosity. It was really cool when it was a simple build up, and then they go into the complex, intricate guitar parts and it sounds like complete junk.

I have to agree with you on some of your arguments here. Im also not definatly bashing DT here! (I own 3 of their dvds! :lol: ).

But to me it also sounds as if they sometimes throw away what acould have been great. And sometimes in their songs its just random melody afther melody, and sometimes just random keyboard-guitar playing.

I dunno if this made sence to anyone. Just my opinion anyway. :)

[something erotic]

Why, thank you :p

I've got a job for you right now. :naughty:














:upset:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I have to agree with you on some of your arguments here. Im also not definatly bashing DT here! (I own 3 of their dvds! :lol: ).

But to me it also sounds as if they sometimes throw away what acould have been great. And sometimes in their songs its just random melody afther melody, and sometimes just random keyboard-guitar playing.

I dunno if this made sence to anyone. Just my opinion anyway. :)

Live at Budokan is a great DVD.

[something erotic]

Budokan>2000

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

True.

[something erotic]

2000 is great, but the Beyond This Life break in Budokan pwns teh n00bz0rz.

[YDload]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=3693&genreid=2

Will somebody please tell this kid that the beginning to Schism is all bass?! I swear he will die for his mistakes :evil: :evil:

Nah that's okay. I like Tool but I haven't posted in this thread before, ain't that strange? Parabol/Parabola is as good as it gets.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Well, that review sucks anyway. I mean, come on, he called Parabol filler. However, the beginning of Schism is not all bass. The chords hit in the beginning is a combination of bass and guitar chords. The next part is all bass though. Is that what you meant? Oh, and yes, Parabol/Parabola is great. The way they are connected, the melodic singing, the awesome riffage, it just all comes together so well. I find Parabola to be one of the heaviest songs on the album musically, but the beautiful singing that Maynard does really makes a nice contrast to it, and it ends up somewhere in the middle in terms of heaviness because of it. Anyone else agree?

[YDload]

Well, that review sucks anyway. I mean, come on, he called Parabol filler. However, the beginning of Schism is not all bass. The chords hit in the beginning is a combination of bass and guitar chords. The next part is all bass though. Is that what you meant?

Hmm, upon closer listening, I guess there is a bit of guitar in the very beginning. But the reviewer is still wrong because he seems to think that's ALL the intro is. He somehow interpreted the faint guitar and rich bass double-stops are "extremely beautiful and melodic guitar." I think that does a bit of disservice to Mr. Chancellor. I bet he thinks the bridge of Parabola is also guitar when it's high-register bass melodies with intermittent guitar chords! Grr.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Hmm, upon closer listening, I guess there is a bit of guitar in the very beginning. But the reviewer is still wrong because he seems to think that's ALL the intro is. He somehow interpreted the faint guitar and rich bass double-stops are "extremely beautiful and melodic guitar." I think that does a bit of disservice to Mr. Chancellor. I bet he thinks the bridge of Parabola is also guitar when it's high-register bass melodies with intermittent guitar chords! Grr.

Okay, yeah, I see what you're saying now. Yeah, that reviewer sucks :lol:

[Darkness]

Is that the guy who said Chester from LP is better then Maynard?

[Huber]

Yeah. He aint too bright.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

He also called Disposition filler :upset:

[something erotic]

He also called Disposition filler :upset:

That kid is gonna get shot one of these days. :evil:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

That kid is gonna get shot one of these days. :evil:

By me :evil:

[something erotic]

By me :evil:

And me. :evil:

[Darkness]

He also called Disposition filler :upset:
I remember starting to tear up when I first read that.

No joke.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I remember starting to tear up when I first read that.

No joke.

I hear you, man.

[Sleeper]

I'm starting to record the bass for the second Lateralus cover on Soundclick, I prolly wont have it ready till monday or tuesday.

[BlindWriting]

It really wasn't that bad of a review.

Yeah, it suffers from the unprofessionalism that most track-by-track reviews hold, and his English isn't great. I agree, Parabol and Disposition are NOT fillers, and Chester Bennington is not a better singer than Maynard. But all in all it's nothing to get your panties in a bundle over.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Someone should get Med to delete that. I mean, 2 reviews is enough, 3 is a bit overkill, and 4 is just kind of ghey.

[Darkness]

Yeah, lets vote on the best ones. :D

[mudvayne420]

about the Alternative track listing for lateralus, i wanted to know, what you guys think about THE one with that aiden guy. i tried it and i get what he means by that but thats just me.

[Kage]

I think Triad is the only song that goes on too long. Reflection is amazing, and Disposition is just as good.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I don't see why we needed any more than one review. I remember seeing sputnik before I came onto MX and completely agreed with much of what bartender wrote. His review is the best by far.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

That's become one of my favourite songs on the album. Reflection and Triad go on a bit too long for me but I've never got bored of Disposition.

See, I wouldn't say Reflection goes on for too long because when I'm done listening to it, I feel very satisfied. However, I do think that the verse doesn't come soon enough. That's the only complaint I have with the song. If I'm in the mood to just relax and listen and not really pay close attention to the music, then I have no problem with it. Yet, if I'm riding in a car, and I want to get to my favorite parts of the song, I feel everything pre-verse could have been shortened by about 8 bars. Or maybe they're should have been more sound effects.

[Shattered_Future]

Has any new information been posted on Tool's new album? A release date, leaks, anything?

I got the sudden urge to go see Tool live last night...I listened to Lateralus for the first time in a year, and it got me back into Tool.

[repcak]

Has any new information been posted on Tool's new album? A release date, leaks, anything?

I got the sudden urge to go see Tool live last night...I listened to Lateralus for the first time in a year, and it got me back into Tool.

there was a release of a single, by tool!
/but it was a fake

hey, i haven't listend to tool for some weeks... i'm waiting for the new record.

[Kage]

The new album came out last Tuesday...

[Shattered_Future]

In America?

I was at the cd store on Saturday, and I didn't see it in the new releases section...and they usually have stuff like that up there.

[Kage]

Yeah, I think that was the American release date, it was probably different in Europe.

[Shattered_Future]

I live in America though, and I still didn't see it...

I even looked under Tool (well, I skimmed over it), and I didn't see it.

[Kage]

That's weird. Where do you live? Sometimes they do a limited release for the first week.

[Knifeboy]

What's it called?

[Kage]

Dance Dirty

[something erotic]

:lol:

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

You guys are cruel.

[Knifeboy]

Guys? Hehe, the only one in on this was Kage.. Evil Kage

[Moses]

That's funny when it actually works.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Really, you've taken it too far. Faith would be ashamed.

[Kage]

What's Faith got to do with it? I couldn't help it.

:)

[Shattered_Future]

Ah, you were joking... :)

It's not wise to do that. What if I turn psychotic, and find your house, and show up there with a chainsaw?

In all seriousness, though, when does it come out?

[Kage]

No one knows. Which is why when people ask, it's tempting to joke around like that.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

For every tool bashing post, theres a release date enqiry one to match it

Its funny when they come from the same user too

[Shattered_Future]

Oh...ok.

Stupid tight-lipped Tool...can't drop hints on album release dates/tour dates. :upset:

EDIT: Was that directed at me? I don't think I've ever bashed Tool before... :confused:

[Moses]

Tool sucks....

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Oh...ok.

Stupid tight-lipped Tool...can't drop hints on album release dates/tour dates. :upset:

EDIT: Was that directed at me? I don't think I've ever bashed Tool before... :confused:

Nononononononono, was a general comment, as the post below yours shows :p

[Knifeboy]

Tool blows...

[Shadius]

Been listening to Undertow recently, and I just listened to/watched a an entire live show I have of them in Radio City (8-13-02), which is absolutely stunning, pretty mediocre quality video, but the performance you can still tell is fantastic.

I still love Tool. I was getting worried.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Maynard's ghey.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Tool sucks....

Yeah, they sold out. I'm an O.G.T. They betrayed me! :angry:

[something erotic]

Tool blows...

So do I.

[BlindWriting]

Since it's the end of September, we should be expecting a new Newsletter soon.

[Kage]

I'm glad I have the people in this thread to read those for me, so I don't have to. Yuk.

[BlindWriting]

I'm glad I have the people in this thread to read those for me, so I don't have to. Yuk.
There's a lot of crap to wade through before you get something interesting. Goes for just about everything posted on that site.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I still believe that Blair deleted a section of the August newsletter a few days after he released it (or am I just delusional?).

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

"Blair's a rollerblading f@ggot."

Whoever said that is a genius. Who was it, Jake?

[something erotic]

"Blair's a rollerblading f@ggot."

Whoever said that is a genius. Who was it, Jake?

Me. Cough.

[repcak]

Evil Kage.... Dance Dirty :lol:

hey, guys, what do you think when everybody will guess a date when the new tool-album will be released? The one who will be the nearest to the official date will win ... äh.... a chewing gum... no bad idea... a backstage pass to a tool concerts sponsored by all tool-threads-regulars :D

[Kage]

Estimated Release Date - - 09/25/07

[repcak]

25.9.2007 or 25.7.2009? :lol:

ps.: Kage, you past already your 1000th post in this forum (to be exaclty 1001) :thumb: congratulations

[Kage]

Yup...haha. Thanks. It was a long time coming.

[Darkness]

Maynard's ghey.
To far.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

To far.

...in the closet.

Release date: */-*/----*

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Release date: */-*/----*

****it. :lol:

[Dude3]

"But grace is already deeaaad!!!!!!!!!"

DEP rules!

Goodnight guys :wave: :wave:

[Killtacular]

Asah whasah wha?

[BlindWriting]

I refuse to sleep.

[Killtacular]

That's logical. Sleep is over-rated, anyway.

Go Da Vinci!!

[Knifeboy]

Yeah, they sold out. I'm an O.G.T. They betrayed me! :angry:

I never understood what O.G.T meant


The Tool album have already been realesed, they released it under an alias.. It's called "The Flying Cumdumpsters - The taste of skin"

[Phobophile]

I never understood what O.G.T meant

Original Gangster Tool. Just like how people say they are an O.G. in rap.

[Knifeboy]

Aah.. I learned something new today \o/

[Spiritofmosa]

i got the original lateralus today..the art concept and album cover isunique, ive never seen anything like that

[repcak]

i have an better idea for the new tool album: 'tool - fake, haha' :lol: :upset:

[Spiritofmosa]

...

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

i have an better idea for the new tool album: 'tool - fake, haha' :lol: :upset:

I don't get it. :confused:

[JamJar]

Hi, I love Tool, I've been browsing this forum for a while now and I've finally decided to post :). I hav all of Tools albums and like most people I'm torn between aenima and lateralus. Aenima has the coolest song ever (Pu****) on it but i luv the maturity of Lateralus. My theory is that it's an album about the relationship between man and god. All the song lyrics seem to fit this theme and its the sort of thing that they wud do.

[something erotic]

Hi, I luv Tool, I've been browsing this forum for a while now and I've finally decided to post :). I hav all of Tools albums and like most people I'm torn between aenima and lateralus. Aenima has the coolest song ever (Pu****) on it but i luv the maturity of Lateralus. My theory is that it's an album about the relationship between man and god. All the song lyrics seem to fit this theme and its the sort of thing that they wud do.

Lose the "luv" and you're cool.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Hi, I luv Tool, I've been browsing this forum for a while now and I've finally decided to post :). I hav all of Tools albums and like most people I'm torn between aenima and lateralus. Aenima has the coolest song ever (Pu****) on it but i luv the maturity of Lateralus. My theory is that it's an album about the relationship between man and god. All the song lyrics seem to fit this theme and its the sort of thing that they wud do.

Glad to see another Tool fan on here. Honestly, your view on Lateralus is actually pretty good. I personally don't believe that that was what the band was going for, but what do I know? All the songs, technically, do seem to fit in with the idea of a man and his relationship with his god. I've never really heard that idea or theory before, but I like it. I do sense a lot of spiritualness in the lyrics actually. Plus, you know, the band says that Lateralus means "upward thinking." Taken literally, since the cliche is that heaven is above us and hell is below us, it could mean upward in the sense of God.

[Artemician]

Glad to see another Tool fan on here. Honestly, your view on Lateralus is actually pretty good. I personally don't believe that that was what the band was going for, but what do I know? All the songs, technically, do seem to fit in with the idea of a man and his relationship with his god. I've never really heard that idea or theory before, but I like it. I do sense a lot of spiritualness in the lyrics actually. Plus, you know, the band says that Lateralus means "upward thinking." Taken literally, since the cliche is that heaven is above us and hell is below us, it could mean upward in the sense of God.

I doubt that actually. Mainly because of a lyric in the title track. "as below, so above and beyond, I imagine." This stems from an old medieval saying, "as above, so below," meaning what happens in heaven (or some other higher plane) reflects what's going on down here. Tool reverse this, obviously they place more importance in this realm.

[chongi]

so how come you guys all stopped working on the covers?

[jamesclelland]

the upward thinking/lateralus part makes sense, but how do we know thats true. as we all know tool is known for spreading false information for what ever reason. so as it does kind of fit, im not sure if i can believe it.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Yeah, I don't neccesarily believe in this theory, I just like how it fits.

[repcak]

If anyone of you is interesting in Anathema and want to get some songs for free (upload), then put your email on the list:
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9803384#post9803384

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Whoa now, anyone check out the Tool site? Newest update links to an advertising of electric drums that Blair says Danny uses extensively on the new record. You click on a button or two, and you get to look at it, read about it, while hearing a sample of someone (perhaps Danny?) playing it. It sounds really cool and I can't wait to hear what effects Danny will be using on the new album. If they're anything like what I just heard on the Tool site, then it could be something really cool (just as long as the electric drums aren't overkilled).

[BlindWriting]

It says EXTENSIVELY (yes, in all caps) in Blair's update, so I hope the use of electronic drums and triggers don't overshadow his real kit work.

[paganman7]

"(Spring 2005) Confirmed that the new Tool album may still be incomplete, so it will probably not be released until some time next year, 2006."


Not sure of the validity...

Taken from:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0444665/bio

[Spiritofmosa]

lateralus is one of the best albums i heard. it brings 'heavy' to another new level, and the flow of thealbum is great

[ThePatient]

So, I was at the Orioles game tonight, and a little clip of an Elvis song comes on and I'm like, "Hey, I've heard that somewhere before". I realized its the little bit they play in the middle of Stinkfist in the OK show. So I came home and googled the lyrics "I'm caught in a trap...Because I love you too much baby", and low and behold, it is what they play in Stinkfist, its called Suspicious Minds. I found that rather interesting, and I haven't seen anyone post that, so I figured I'd share.

[Huber]

lateralus is one of the best albums i heard. it brings 'heavy' to another new level, and the flow of thealbum is great

I like that. It's a good way of saying it.

[Kage]

Ok, the name changing has got to stop. I have no idea who the hell is whom anymore.

[Huber]

I was a tad tired of trying to argue a point and just getting a post in response going, "Har har, atleast my name isnt Sliptallica LoLZ!!!1!uno!!1"

It isn't the big a deal anyways. I'll keep my user-title like that for awhile.

[Kage]

:lol: That justifies it, I guess, but I always liked your name. Beyond the fact that it was combining two bands I don't like, I thought it always fit you. I dunno, I'll get used to this, I guess. :)

EDIT: Oh, I feel like an idiot. I just saw your response to my same question in the community thread. :(

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Ok, the name changing has got to stop. I have no idea who the hell is whom anymore.

Im clearvision now. We swapped names

I wonder if any dedicated Tool fan drummers (with wallets the size of my room) are getting hold of that drum technology and trying to second guess the sound of the album through using them?

And the 'super fast' trigger thing sounds cool. Does it like, set off the trigger BEFORE you hit it?

[Spiritofmosa]

i'm watching apc live at pittsburgh, they are awsome .
y didnt they put the band version of 'the nurse who loved me' into any of their albums

[ThePatient]

i'm watching apc live at pittsburgh, they are awsome .
y didnt they put the band version of 'the nurse who loved me' into any of their albums
So, you want to upload that? I've wanted live APC for a while.

[Kurrpt]

any news on the new release?

is that TOoL DVD out? what is that all about?

[clearvision]

Im clearvision now. We swapped names

'Sup Rob?

I don't post here much anymore, the world of tool has just gone so flat, news was building, then it all just collapsed. :(

[Huber]

:lol: That justifies it, I guess, but I always liked your name. Beyond the fact that it was combining two bands I don't like, I thought it always fit you. I dunno, I'll get used to this, I guess. :)

EDIT: Oh, I feel like an idiot. I just saw your response to my same question in the community thread. :(

Heh, Huber is my name. It suits :p

Im clearvision now. We swapped names

I wonder if any dedicated Tool fan drummers (with wallets the size of my room) are getting hold of that drum technology and trying to second guess the sound of the album through using them?

And the 'super fast' trigger thing sounds cool. Does it like, set off the trigger BEFORE you hit it?

When my income gets larger I'm definetly investing into a module and some trigger pads. Acoustic/Electric hybrid kits are great.

[repcak]

i didn't know you can change your name... i was sure it's forever.

so huber = ex-sliptallica
the patient = ?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

'Sup Rob?

I don't post here much anymore, the world of tool has just gone so flat, news was building, then it all just collapsed. :(

Same here, least the waiting isnt as unberable now with lots of other good releases/great bands touring

[Kage]

Same here, least the waiting isnt as unberable now with lots of other good releases/great bands touring
Very true.

[ThePatient]

the patient = ?
Err... ThePatient, or Jeff if that tickles your fancy. I just haven't come around much lately, so I guess that's why you didn't recognize me.

[Esoteric_Creator]

Glad to see another Tool fan on here. Honestly, your view on Lateralus is actually pretty good. I personally don't believe that that was what the band was going for, but what do I know? All the songs, technically, do seem to fit in with the idea of a man and his relationship with his god. I've never really heard that idea or theory before, but I like it. I do sense a lot of spiritualness in the lyrics actually. Plus, you know, the band says that Lateralus means "upward thinking." Taken literally, since the cliche is that heaven is above us and hell is below us, it could mean upward in the sense of God.

I really like this type of thought process towards their music. Though, I think the phrase of "upward thinking" goes beyond the restrictions of simple Heaven and Hell..
Tool were always the first to criticise the persona known as Satan, and Satan being the mythical ring leader of Hell, I doubt they find heaven or Hell as a basis for their thinking.. Besides, I don't think Danny Carey would bother with Satan or his opposing God..
Rather it's inner upward thinking. Self-improving and reaching a higher level of humanity and consciousness...46+2..
It's really shown in their fondness in Alex Grey and titles of their songs. You can even look at the comic genius of Bill Kicks and see where their thinking and beliefs lay..

[YDload]

Tool were always the first to criticise the persona known as Satan...

That's awfully presumptuous of you to say that. I think pretty much all religious music in Western culture was condemning Satan many centuries before Tool or rock music in general was formed.

People like this were the reason I held off on visiting the Tool thread. I consider Tool to be a very good band, and one that I enjoy listening to, but their fans seem to have this cult surrounding the band. They twist the cryptic lyrics into this massive bombardment of spirituality and higher meaning that it really takes all the fun out of the music for me. Music doesn't HAVE to be a path to enlightenment, you can still enjoy it on many other levels without complicating things.

I realize that Tool is a very complicated band, and by over-explaining things I'm just digging myself deeper and deeper, so I'll try to stop. Phew.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I really like this type of thought process towards their music. Though, I think the phrase of "upward thinking" goes beyond the restrictions of simple Heaven and Hell..
Tool were always the first to criticise the persona known as Satan, and Satan being the mythical ring leader of Hell, I doubt they find heaven or Hell as a basis for their thinking.. Besides, I don't think Danny Carey would bother with Satan or his opposing God..
Rather it's inner upward thinking. Self-improving and reaching a higher level of humanity and consciousness...46+2..
It's really shown in their fondness in Alex Grey and titles of their songs. You can even look at the comic genius of Bill Kicks and see where their thinking and beliefs lay..

The way you view Tool's lyrics is how I view them too actually, I was just saying how I liked his views too.

[repcak]

yeah, i like tool but i don't look at the lyrics soooo exactly/carefully. i listen to the lyrics, i read them and try to think about the meaning; but i don't overdo this.
the music is more important for me and there are bands whom lyrics i can identify more than with tool.

[clearvision]

Same here, least the waiting isnt as unberable now with lots of other good releases/great bands touring

Meh i listen to loads of pop-punk atm. Though ig ot tickets to alec empire ont he 13th of october :D, he better be good.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I also agree with the aforementioned point about Tool being overwrought in terms of the meaning of everything they do. I think a lot of the songs are simpler than many here think. The lyrics are very good and meaningful to an extent, but they aren't brilliant.

[Huber]

I also agree with the aforementioned point about Tool being overwrought in terms of the meaning of everything they do. I think a lot of the songs are simpler than many here think. The lyrics are very good and meaningful to an extent, but they aren't brilliant.

In this world where words like awesome, brilliant, and outstanding are used on an everyday basis just to emphasize how great something is they kind of lose there meaning. The word awesome is hardly ever used to actually describe something that left people in awe and so on.

My point is to say and use the real definition of brilliant: Marked by unusual and impressive intellectual acuteness; that kind of does describe most of Maynards lyrics I think, and is kind of accurate.

Either way, I think that all these attempts to say that it isn't so good, or they aren't truly unique etc., is just us regulars in the thread trying to not be called fanboys. That's kinda lame, we all know we don't worship Maynard or herald them as the best band ever. That would be ignorant. But to say that Maynard's lyrics are unique or took some wit isn't. It's pretty easy to see that they are unique and often witty at times.

Meh, that almost sounds offensive now that I read it, but I'm just trying to make a point. I don't mean any offense.

[Kage]

I think Maynard is a great lyricist...but people take it too far, as we all know. It's fun to delve into the meanings of the songs, but lyrics shouldn't be taken as some almighty gospel of higher spirituality or being. They're lyrics to a rock song, and they are often cryptic, which is part of the fun.

[Huber]

I think Maynard is a great lyricist...but people take it too far, as we all know. It's fun to delve into the meanings of the songs, but lyrics shouldn't be taken as some almighty gospel of higher spirituality or being. They're lyrics to a rock song, and they are often cryptic, which is part of the fun.

But none of us do. We aren't "their fans". Some of "their fans" are complete idiots, but like I said I don't think the posters in this thread are the ones who need to be avoided.

That comment about Tool being the first to criticize Satan was wrong, but I don't think it was meant that they were the first in history. I think he meant more like they are always willing to come out and do so. It was just worded wrong I think.

[Stinkfist2]

Track 69

I love how they named it that cause the 6 and 9 are the same up you turn it and it goes on forever like they say in the song... life feeds on life feeds on life but I am confused on what the real meaning is.

[repcak]

the funny thing about me is that i'm not a fanboy of tool. i am in this thread only cause of the ppl and the topics.
i would rather call me a CoB-fanboy or NIN-fanboy... even more DT-fanboy than tool.

don't understand me wrong. i like tool, their music, everything... but i am not fanatic.

[YDload]

Track 69

I love how they named it that cause the 6 and 9 are the same up you turn it and it goes on forever like they say in the song... life feeds on life feeds on life but I am confused on what the real meaning is.

You don't know what 69 is? It's actually really childish and immature (to be obsessed with the number, I mean. Not the act itself). That's what makes it so weird that Tool would do it, definitely no higher numerology behind it.

[Stinkfist2]

You don't know what 69 is? It's actually really childish and immature (to be obsessed with the number, I mean. Not the act itself). That's what makes it so weird that Tool would do it, definitely no higher numerology behind it.Yeah I know what 69 is but I thought they meant it differently.

[Kage]

You don't know what 69 is? It's actually really childish and immature (to be obsessed with the number, I mean. Not the act itself). That's what makes it so weird that Tool would do it, definitely no higher numerology behind it.
Another shining example of Tool's brilliant sense of humor. :rolleyes:

[repcak]

69 has something to do with sex, not numbers :rolleyes:

/ :lol:

[Stinkfist2]

69 has something to do with sex, not numbers :rolleyes:

/ :lol:Yes, I know 6=man 9=woman but I thought they might have meant it to mean about how they keep saying the words over and over.

[Kage]

That seems like a pretty vague connection, but I'd be willing to bet they just put it at track 69 for the obscurity and just because that number is so ****in hilarious.

[repcak]

maybe... who knows?

[repcak]

i think a lot of things tool is making of fun... they are sitting there, are playing with numbers (like 69)... someone says... hey thats cool, we put it on the record... maynard asks: what about the meaning behind it... the others: **** it! who cares?

theres now this 69 on the record and ppl all over the world/forums are discussing the meaing, though it hasn't one :) thats the irony behind tool

/****... sorry for the double-post

[Stinkfist2]

That seems like a pretty vague connection, but I'd be willing to bet they just put it at track 69 for the obscurity and just because that number is so ****in hilarious.I don't know just cause if you listen to the words...

[Kage]

ppl all over the world/forums are discussing the meaing, though it hasn't one :) thats the irony behind tool
Something like that ;)

[Huber]

Yeah, I see what you mean, but I think they just wanted to have a "69" appear when you put it in your CD player.

[Stinkfist2]

Yeah, I see what you mean, but I think they just wanted to have a "69" appear when you put it in your CD player.Haha, yeah I could see Tool doing that. They prolly just did it to make people wonder what the hell they mean.

[repcak]

Yeah, I see what you mean, but I think they just wanted to have a "69" appear when you put it in your CD player.
cause it looks great 'in print'?!

a lot of numbers are interesting and mysterious:
3,7,13,23,69,666,616

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You don't know what 69 is? It's actually really childish and immature (to be obsessed with the number, I mean. Not the act itself). That's what makes it so weird that Tool would do it, definitely no higher numerology behind it.

You know what though- This guy could be on to something. I mean, Tool perhaps wanted to think of sex, when really, the meaning was a tad deeper than that. :) Either way, I really like the guy's theory.

Also, Disgustipated appears at different track numbers depending on the version, or edition of Undertow. It says exactly where it appears on the Tool FAQ, but since tdn is undergoing some sort of makeover(gomf finally) I won't be able to tell you. :( I do recall reading track 10,69, and 100, though, but don't quote me on this.

[Spiritofmosa]

But none of us do. We aren't "their fans". Some of "their fans" are complete idiots, but like I said I don't think the posters in this thread are the ones who need to be avoided.



y do you say that?

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Tool has sort of a magic realism type of humor. They'll say or do something ridiculous in a totally dead-pan manner. Well, I don't know about "deadpan" but they try to present the ridiculous in a serious way, if you catch me.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think I get what you mean. They can say anything they want, and there will always be someone who dissects the hell out of what they do or say until they reach some kind of extremely complex and deep meaning. Something that Tool may or may not have intended to do in the first place.

[YDload]

I think it's ironic that a band which stresses keeping an open mind can have some of the most narrow-minded fans imaginable. How could they boo bands like Fantomas and Meshuggah just because they're opening for Tool and taking away their precious Tool time (with Tim Taylor, heh)? That's not right.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm sure Tool have kicked themselves more than once for becoming so mainstream. They're "Tool" that they have used to get their message across to their fans has essentially backfired, mainly because of what you said, Ian.

[Futuro]

I have not been listening to tool lately, Im starting to find them boring :-/

Thats why I hardly come in here anymore.

[Darkness]

Im starting to find them boring :-/
Thats why I stopped listening several months ago.


In other news faith, do you have MSN or something we can chat on (besides AIM..) about our song?

[Futuro]

In other news faith, do you have MSN or something we can chat on (besides AIM..) about our song? I have YIM Its marshprobe Im on now

[Darkness]

Dammit, don't have that either.. would you happen to have Soulseek?

[Futuro]

Dammit, don't have that either.. would you happen to have Soulseek? I used too, not anymore......Who doesnt have AIM nowadays? :lol: Sorry man.

EDIT@BELOW: Yeah ill do the drums for ya, If you have a file give it to me through Email

Norsiedals@Yahoo.com

[Darkness]

:lol: I live in Canada, no AOL for me. Everyone here uses MSN. Your still interested in doing the drums, correct?

[One Groovin Clown]

Oh Canada! :cool:

I just got one of the new Ipod Nano's, you get your bang for your buck. And of course i have all the tool songs on it. ^_^

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

My friend got one of those. It is so freaking small. I knew they were smaller than Ipod minis, but..It's like the size of a credit card. :confused:

[One Groovin Clown]

My friend got one of those. It is so freaking small. I knew they were smaller than Ipod minis, but..It's like the size of a credit card. :confused:

smaller, its "fits in your pocket" size.

[Futuro]

I just got one of the new Ipod Nano's, you get your bang for your buck. And of course i have all the tool songs on it. ^_^ UGH i hate the anime faces >.<

I think when the new tool DVD comes out i might get excited, but till then...

/Puts Aenima to the back of cd shelf

[Darkness]

Faith, we me and the other guitarist played tonight to polish some things up (we only had an hour and half... but it was still pretty good for such a short time). Were getting together again on Sunday, and we should have a decent recording for you. We were thinking recording a demo of it, get you to write/record drums, send it back to us then we'll rerecord over it. Otherwise it may be a bit sloppy at some parts.

[Spiritofmosa]

i'm watching tool live.. they r boring. its just amazing that these was happening 10 years ago when i was about 8 years old?

[Knifeboy]

Why did noone point out the fact that; "life feeds on life" is just a "clever" way of talking about doing the 69, on the last page?

[Shadius]

i'm watching tool live.. they r boring. its just amazing that these was happening 10 years ago when i was about 8 years old?

They're far from boring live, but to each their own. It's not that amazing to be honest, either. How about some old Iron Maiden live shows, from BEFORE you were born? Or many other bands.

I recommend Lateralus era live shows over any others, Ænima era shows are prtety cool too, but they're just getting better and better.

Why did noone point out the fact that; "life feeds on life" is just a "clever" way of talking about doing the 69, on the last page?

I did mention that last time this was brought up. No one seemed to want to mention it then either. It's quite funny, but obviously totally immature, Tool kinda grew up a lot with Lateralus.

[Spiritofmosa]

i see two different mynards when i watch him perform in apc and tool.. in Apc he is shy or something, he hides hes face with his hair and sometimes faces his back to the audience and sings to himself in the corner most of the time. however with all the lighting and effects its one of the best live performances ive seen.

[something erotic]

Exactly how I feel about Maynard. It's like he's two people in one. Weird, eh?

[Knifeboy]

I did mention that last time this was brought up. No one seemed to want to mention it then either. It's quite funny, but obviously totally immature, Tool kinda grew up a lot with Lateralus.


Immature, yes.. But I actually find it kind of clever.. Heheh

[Shadius]

Exactly how I feel about Maynard. It's like he's two people in one. Weird, eh?

In Tool he hides how he looks with body-paint, wigs, weird clothing, stands in the dark or in front of a TV screen, etc.

In APC, as they're more mainstream sounding he does similar things by wearing wigs and weird different clothing, glasses, etc. With APC he's even more the focus, so he goes to possibly greater lengths to protect his identity.

Obviously two different acts, so two different images. He said he joked about feeling schizo after APC tours and such.

[something erotic]

In Tool he hides how he looks with body-paint, wigs, weird clothing, stands in the dark or in front of a TV screen, etc.

In APC, as they're more mainstream sounding he does similar things by wearing wigs and weird different clothing, glasses, etc. With APC he's even more the focus, so he goes to possibly greater lengths to protect his identity.

Obviously two different acts, so two different images. He said he joked about feeling schizo after APC tours and such.

:lol: That's probably how I would've described it, but he isn't actually schitzo. He certainly acts like it though, but not like in an evil/good way.

[Esoteric_Creator]

That's awfully presumptuous of you to say that. I think pretty much all religious music in Western culture was condemning Satan many centuries before Tool or rock music in general was formed.

That comment about Tool being the first to criticize Satan was wrong, but I don't think it was meant that they were the first in history. I think he meant more like they are always willing to come out and do so. It was just worded wrong I think.

He hit it right now the money. Thanks for that, my friend..

People like this were the reason I held off on visiting the Tool thread. I consider Tool to be a very good band, and one that I enjoy listening to, but their fans seem to have this cult surrounding the band. They twist the cryptic lyrics into this massive bombardment of spirituality and higher meaning that it really takes all the fun out of the music for me. Music doesn't HAVE to be a path to enlightenment, you can still enjoy it on many other levels without complicating things.

I realize that Tool is a very complicated band, and by over-explaining things I'm just digging myself deeper and deeper, so I'll try to stop. Phew.

Now, I see this statement as being sort of short sighted..
Every song that enters our ears stir some sort of feeling or thought. Most Tool fans are just willing to explain their views. Like church goers or gospel singers...the songs they sing could just be uplifting songs, or they can take on deeper meaning for those who want the meaning..
The same applies to Tool songs. Some connect with music on different levels. Musicians hear notes and rythme. Artists here beautiful images and sound. Philosophers here truth or ideas. Thinkers hear thoughts and points of view.
There is no shame in wanting to find a meaning in a music (in this case Tool), or understanding something in a different way than others..

The deeper you dig the more you learn, and this applies to anything..
Never take things for just what they are..
Question it..
Learn from it..
And maybe grow from it..

~daniel

[YDload]

He hit it right now the money. Thanks for that, my friend..



Now, I see this statement as being sort of short sighted..
Every song that enters our ears stir some sort of feeling or thought. Most Tool fans are just willing to explain their views. Like church goers or gospel singers...the songs they sing could just be uplifting songs, or they can take on deeper meaning for those who want the meaning..
The same applies to Tool songs. Some connect with music on different levels. Musicians hear notes and rythme. Artists here beautiful images and sound. Philosophers here truth or ideas. Thinkers hear thoughts and points of view.
There is no shame in wanting to find a meaning in a music (in this case Tool), or understanding something in a different way than others..

The deeper you dig the more you learn, and this applies to anything..
Never take things for just what they are..
Question it..
Learn from it..
And maybe grow from it..

~daniel


Oh my god are you serious? Here, you can read this article, just for fun of course ;)

http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=1829

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

"Just because one says it, doesn't make it true"

-MJK '97

[Shadius]

He hit it right now the money. Thanks for that, my friend..



Now, I see this statement as being sort of short sighted..
Every song that enters our ears stir some sort of feeling or thought. Most Tool fans are just willing to explain their views. Like church goers or gospel singers...the songs they sing could just be uplifting songs, or they can take on deeper meaning for those who want the meaning..
The same applies to Tool songs. Some connect with music on different levels. Musicians hear notes and rythme. Artists here beautiful images and sound. Philosophers here truth or ideas. Thinkers hear thoughts and points of view.
There is no shame in wanting to find a meaning in a music (in this case Tool), or understanding something in a different way than others..

The deeper you dig the more you learn, and this applies to anything..
Never take things for just what they are..
Question it..
Learn from it..
And maybe grow from it..

~daniel

As pretentious as he sounds, this guy is right. There really shouldn't be any shame if you want to learn where their song references are from and what you think the songs are about, you can do a lot of digging with Tool, and thats great, some people really enjoy it. I'm sure 95% of people who post in this thread have wondered about the meanings behind one or more of their songs, and maybe had a bit of a think about it.

So what?

It dosn't make you some big dork, or some crazy person who thinks only they understand Tool, and that Tool are Gods that know all and pass it off in messages in their music. It's only when people get totally pretentious/obsessed that fans of ANY band become extremely silly.

[YDload]

It dosn't make you some big dork, or some crazy person who thinks only they understand Tool, and that Tool are Gods that know all and pass it off in messages in their music. It's only when people get totally pretentious/obsessed that fans of ANY band become extremely silly.

Well, that's what this guy is passing himself off as. It's not what he says, but how he is saying it that makes him look like the stereotypical holier-than-thou Tool fan. :-/

[Shadius]

Well, that's what this guy is passing himself off as. It's not what he says, but how he is saying it that makes him look like the stereotypical holier-than-thou Tool fan. :-/

Yeah, he sounds on the line, dosn't he.. It's mostly just the silly pretention and talking like you're educating people with your ways and have reached enlightenment.

I love reading song lyrics and analysing them and thinking about what they mean to me. People use these skills all the time in English classes to analyse texts and such, it's not that weird. And, for me, personally, they can help me to appreciate the songs more after I know what all the words are, and what the message of the song is about, and that dosn't just apply to Tool's music. Though, it's definately not essential, I really enjoy loads of songs I don't even know the words to. CoB comes to mind, hehe.

There's no denying that Tool create deep songs (Deeper than most artists, lyrically), and I see no reason why people shouldn't explore them further if they enjoy doing so. :cool:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Well, that's what this guy is passing himself off as. It's not what he says, but how he is saying it that makes him look like the stereotypical holier-than-thou Tool fan. :-/

I didn't get that kind of vibe from his comment at all. :confused:

[Huber]

Quick, someone find me some cool Tool wallpaper

[Kurrpt]

dude i used to have the best


let me see if i still have that link

[repcak]

yeah, i wann have it too... the wallpapers.

hey, tommorow i will move to vienna to study and i get finally an unlimited and faster internet connection: so i am ready for the download ... it was a tool-concert-video right?
so in 24h i will be ready! :thumb:

[Esoteric_Creator]

Well, that's what this guy is passing himself off as. It's not what he says, but how he is saying it that makes him look like the stereotypical holier-than-thou Tool fan. :-/

The funny thing is this..
I didn't specifically refer to just Tool. I refered to music in general..

You on the other hand keep making me out to be *just* a Tool fanboy. But that's fine. For some reason I always see people come onto this board and they have to try and make a distinction between themselves and the "weird tool fans", as if they are going to be thrown out of the popular club if they don't..
So they say that it's stupid to try and look into lyrics and music in fear that a pop-culture nazi will beat them upside the head. But what does it matter if someone does..? Then they come back and say, "Well, you're doing the exact same thing Tool tells you not to do, and over analyse!" Again...and?

Music since the beginning of time was made to teach, stir feeling, stir thought, and tell stories. If a person just wants to listen to just music, put on some headphones, blast the techno/classical/soundtracks, and don't worry about lyrics..

Lyrics are words. Words have meaning. Therefore, there is always something to get from lyrics..

But you have your view and I have mine. I respect that. But you can't bash a person for finding a joy in listening to lyrics and music as a whole and getting something from it..

Thanks you to satchforever and Shadius for understanding..

~daniel

[BlindWriting]

I have not been listening to tool lately, Im starting to find them boring :-/

Thats why I hardly come in here anymore.
This will change with the new album.

[Kage]

This will change with the new album.
Most definately. I dont' listen to Tool as much as I used to, not that I find them boring at all, but because, in all fairness, they only have two albums out that I listen to very much. Undertow is an occaisonal listen for me, and I hardly even listen to Opiate anymore. I just need new material from them, becuase I don't want to burn myself out on Aenima and Lateralus.

[Darkness]

When I listened to Tool, Opiate got more spins then Undertow.

[Shadius]

Undertow is oddly getting a few spins from me lately. It has has the least attention though, I must admit. I really want that new **** album again.

They owe us a frikkin' double disk at this stage, surely.

[Futuro]

This will change with the new album. Yes, im sure they will be in my number 1 spot again (which was recently taken over by Porcupine Tree :eek: )

[Darkness]

Undertow is oddly getting a few spins from me lately. It has has the least attention though, I must admit. I really want that new **** album again.

They owe us a frikkin' double disk at this stage, surely.
Or at least something like Salival.

[Shadius]

Or at least something like Salival.

Oh, yeah, the Live DVD would be MOST welcome by now as well. Waiting is so depressing.

*sobs quietly*

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yes, im sure they will be in my number 1 spot again (which was recently taken over by Porcupine Tree :eek: )

Thanks to me. :cool: What else have you gotten by them? If you still only have Deadwing, then ":amaze:."

Huber- Here (http://toolpantheon.com/wallpaper.htm) are some of the most wicked Tool wallpapers around, even though you didn't vote for me in the RMOTM. (:p)

[Shadius]

I have Deadwing and In Absentia, what album you rekon I should get next? I prefer Deadwing slightly to In Absentia.

[Darkness]

Oh, yeah, the Live DVD would be MOST welcome by now as well. Waiting is so depressing.

*sobs quietly*
Yep.. OK show perfessionally shot & better quality would be rather... my favorite thing ever. :thumb:

[Futuro]

Thanks to me. :cool: What else have you gotten by them? If you still only have Deadwing, then ":amaze:."

Yes, thanks too you haha, Haven't seen you on lately mang. :p

....sadly yes i only have Deadwing....im so lame *humph* :upset:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I haven't been on much lately, as I've been supporting my volleyball team (w00t for spandex!) and cooking and extracting illegal chemicals in my AP Chem class. :p

Mike- Okay, my mom said that she will call the DSL people tomorrow, so be ready to YSI the OK show. :)

Shadius- Most people would say Lightbulb Sun. If you want more of a psychadelic trip album, you should be able to find Voyage 34 at your record store, as it was just rereleased, meaning it will probably be in stock.

[BlindWriting]

Yes, thanks too you haha, Haven't seen you on lately mang. :p

....sadly yes i only have Deadwing....im so lame *humph* :upset:
Get

In Absentia

Now

.


Then delve into the wonders of eleven years' worth of albums before that.

[Darkness]

Mike- Okay, my mom said that she will call the DSL people tomorrow, so be ready to YSI the OK show. :)
Thats a big 10/4.

[Futuro]

Mike- Okay, my mom said that she will call the DSL people tomorrow, so be ready to YSI the OK show. Soon to be the only MXr with dial up...:upset:

Get In Absentia Now
Then delve into the wonders of eleven years' worth of albums before that. Yeah its hard to find in florida :)

[BlindWriting]

Yeah its hard to find in florida :)
Really, that's surprising. If there are any chain stores near you, like Tower, Virgin, etc., I'm sure you could find it.

[Futuro]

Really, that's surprising. If there are any chain stores near you, like Tower, Virgin, etc., I'm sure you could fine it. Lol What i meant was its hard to find the time for me to get my fat *** off the coutch :lol:

[YDload]

The funny thing is this..
I didn't specifically refer to just Tool. I refered to music in general..

You on the other hand keep making me out to be *just* a Tool fanboy. But that's fine. For some reason I always see people come onto this board and they have to try and make a distinction between themselves and the "weird tool fans", as if they are going to be thrown out of the popular club if they don't..
So they say that it's stupid to try and look into lyrics and music in fear that a pop-culture nazi will beat them upside the head. But what does it matter if someone does..? Then they come back and say, "Well, you're doing the exact same thing Tool tells you not to do, and over analyse!" Again...and?

Music since the beginning of time was made to teach, stir feeling, stir thought, and tell stories. If a person just wants to listen to just music, put on some headphones, blast the techno/classical/soundtracks, and don't worry about lyrics..

Lyrics are words. Words have meaning. Therefore, there is always something to get from lyrics..

But you have your view and I have mine. I respect that. But you can't bash a person for finding a joy in listening to lyrics and music as a whole and getting something from it..

Thanks you to satchforever and Shadius for understanding..

~daniel

I'm sorry I lashed out at you (although I still think signing posts is pointless and looks ridiculous). Compared to what "in2deep060501" posted above me, everything you've said is golden. At least you can spell.

[in2deep060501]

who gives a **** if i can spell..this is a forum, im not writing a letter to the president ok and i agree with what esoteric creator said...it was awesome. :thumb:

[YDload]

who gives a **** if i can spell..this is a forum, im not writing a letter to the president ok and i agree with what esoteric creator said...it was awesome. :thumb:

ahahahaha so how is being taken seriously goin' for ya?

[in2deep060501]

ahahahaha so how is being taken seriously goin' for ya?

i dont kno what kind of drugs ur on but u need to stop seriously. ok i admit im new to the whole posting/thread starting deal and ur making it way more complicated than it needs to be. i kno there are other *official* threads for the bands i listed in my thread ok im not a dumbass. I wanted to make a sort of disscusion for those bands. I wanted to hear other people's opinions about them b/c they are some of my fav bands. i would apperciate if u would try to help me out here instead of bringing me down. u seem like u kno alot more about the forums than me, but that doesnt give u the right to be an ******* like u have been.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

We don't care if you're dumb or smart. Just stop typing in short-hand - it is as irritating as hell...

[in2deep060501]

We don't care if you're dumb or smart. Just stop typing in short-hand - it is as irritating as hell...

alright..I'll stop. I've developed a bad habit of typing in shorthand and it's hard to break. I'll be sure to type right in future posts.

[BlindWriting]

So it's October.

Where's that friggin' September newsletter.

[Huber]

who gives a **** if i can spell..this is a forum, im not writing a letter to the president ok and i agree with what esoteric creator said...it was awesome. :thumb:

The reason for trying your best to type with good grammar/puncuation/spelling is so that everyone can read your post well and understand what your saying without busting out there pocket decoder. No one's trying to be a prick, it's just friendly on the eyes.

Huber- Here (http://toolpantheon.com/wallpaper.htm) are some of the most wicked Tool wallpapers around, even though you didn't vote for me in the RMOTM. (:p)

RMOTM? What's that? :confused:

[SickoKid]

I'm guessing something-something of the month.

[Darkness]

So it's October.

Where's that friggin' September newsletter.
Good question.


As for me... I have Audioslave tonight. :thumb: :D

[Syncratic]

So...for the past week, I haven't listened to Tool or APC.

For me, it was unhealthy to listen to primarily those two bands.

I think I'll have a new outlook on this music now.

[Red Cow]

So...for the past week, I haven't listened to Tool or APC.

For me, it was unhealthy to listen to primarily those two bands.

I think I'll have a new outlook on this music now.I found when i first started realy geting into Tool nothing eles had the same impact or emotion,now i can still apericate good music,but only if its realy good

[paganman7]

The reason for trying your best to type with good grammar/puncuation/spelling is so that everyone can read your post well and understand what your saying without busting out there pocket decoder. No one's trying to be a prick, it's just friendly on the eyes.

Indeed. ;)

[Magicaltroll]

So... Any news on Tool that's worth hearing?
My computer has been dead, so I haven't been on.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Nothing great. Lateralus came out on vinyl, but you probably already know that, depending on how long you're computer has been fried. Welcome back, anyways. :)

[Magicaltroll]

Yup, that's OLD news :p
And thanks.

[ThePatient]

Speaking of which, has anyone actually gotten it?

[something erotic]

I did, for collector purposes.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

The guy who made up the story about the September 25th release date did. He said it was 30 bucks, so forget that. :p I did also hear though, that the track order is somehow messed up. Disposition appears somewhere earlier in the album, which is odd. :confused:

[Dude3]

It seemed like you were missing for a little bit on here, Brian.

No news really. I went to Ska is Dead 3 in St.Petersburg, Florida. Streetlight Manifesto headlined. Possibly the best concert I've ever been to.


On a side note: Does anybody have any live videos of The Dillinger Escape Plan? I used to have some, but I accidently deleted them.

[YDload]

It seemed like you were missing for a little bit on here, Brian.

No news really. I went to Ska is Dead 3 in St.Petersburg, Florida. Streetlight Manifesto headlined. Possibly the best concert I've ever been to.


On a side note: Does anybody have any live videos of The Dillinger Escape Plan? I used to have some, but I accidently deleted them.

I'm sure all footage is destroyed during Greg Puciato's chaotic water bottle attacks on the audience. I was lucky to make it out alive without having an Evian bottle rammed down my throat.

[Dude3]

I saw DEP in Orlando, during Gigantour.

Well technically, I was in-line getting autographs from Megadeth. But I could still see them a little bit.


Anyways, if somebody does have some live DEP vids and would'nt mind sending them to me, my AIM is Crazynessdude3
My e-mail is Crazynessdude3@aol.com

[BlindWriting]

Just got back from Porcupine Tree live. All I can say is wow.

It's now that Dan-whores-his-brief-live-review time.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9857261#post9857261

[something erotic]

I saw them in Boston; one of the best shows I've ever been to.

[Huber]

Indeed. ;)


The reason for trying your best to type with good grammar/puncuation/spelling is so that everyone can read your post well and understand what your saying without busting out there pocket decoder. No one's trying to be a prick, it's just friendly on the eyes.

:rolleyes:

[deathmetal]

Kick *** Tool site! The wallpaper, f-ing phenomonal and the site it's self f-ing great. Too great for words. Wish I could do that kinda ****t

[BlindWriting]

Thread is dead.

Anyway, there are some new (I think) pictures on Adam's myspace.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=20913840&blogID=41799967&Mytoken=20050816193059

Oh, and there's a Toolshed.down.net myspace.
http://myspace.com/thetoolpage

And Kabir's:
http://www.myspace.com/kabir11

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Those aren't new pictures, sadly. :upset: Man, I almost got excited for a second, and now I'm just kind of sad. Bastard! :p

He hasn't updated in a while. I want more recording pictures.

[BlindWriting]

August 14th...

Ach. My bad.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Hey, no problem for me. I'm sure someone can use it. I mean, I'm probably the only guy who checks Adam's myspace every other day for updates. :cool:

[Darkness]

Saw Audioslave last night... holy crap. That show was f'ing incredible to say the least. They played a part of Bulls on Parade, all of Sleep now, Testify and Killing in the Name. Plus some Soundgarden songs and a crap load of Audioslave songs. It was amazing, Tom really can shred when he wants to, and that guys still full of as much energy as he was on the Self titled RATM DVD, believe it or not.

Oh yeah, and we had really good seat tickets, and some guy wanted to trade us his floor tickets because his girlfriend didn't want to stand up the whole time... (even though they could have just sat in seats anyway..) so naturally we took the tickets and got onto the floor. :thumb:

/random post in a thread that has nothing to do with Audioslave :cool:

[Txus]

^^ That's awesome that they still play their ex-band stuff.

[Knifeboy]

Audioslave rocks live.. I'd go see them again in a heartbeat

[Darkness]

Audioslave rocks live.. I'd go see them again in a heartbeat
Agreed, the band looked like they were having a great time, joking with the crowd, Tom smiling through half the set, and Chris said they were definatly going to make it a habit of coming back (its their first time here)... :thumb:

[Thor]

Audioslave rocks live.. I'd go see them again in a heartbeat
I saw their live videos of them at Live 8 and it didn't look all that great.

[ThePatient]

Off topic, but I figure that anyone who would be interested in this will likely be in this thread. I got King Crimson's live DVD, and its great. Trey Gunn and his Warr is incredibly cool. And Robert Fripp just sat off to the side under a blue light and just looked like a mad scientist the whole time. If you can get your hands on this, I highly recommend it.

...check torrents, that's where I got it...

[Knifeboy]

I saw their live videos of them at Live 8 and it didn't look all that great.

It is impossible to judge how bands are live through live videos

[BlindWriting]

Saw Audioslave last night... holy crap. That show was f'ing incredible to say the last. They played a part of Bulls on Parade, all of Sleep now, Testify and Killing in the Name. Plus some Soundgarden songs and a crap load of Audioslave songs. It was amazing, Tom really can shred when he wants to, and that guys still full of as much energy as he was on the Self titled RATM DVD, believe it or not.

Oh yeah, and we had really good seat tickets, and some guy wanted to trade us his floor tickets because his girlfriend didn't want to stand up the whole time... (even though they could have just sat in seats anyway..) so naturally we took the tickets and got onto the floor. :thumb:

/random post in a thread that has nothing to do with Audioslave :cool:
Audioslave is pretty cool, and I've heard great things about their live show.

[BlindWriting]

Off topic, but I figure that anyone who would be interested in this will likely be in this thread. I got King Crimson's live DVD, and its great. Trey Gunn and his Warr is incredibly cool. And Robert Fripp just sat off to the side under a blue light and just looked like a mad scientist the whole time. If you can get your hands on this, I highly recommend it.

...check torrents, that's where I got it...
Nice. I love King Crimson, and Fripp opened for the Porcupine Tree show I went to last night. He always sits when he performs.


King Crimson is awesome.. I love the bootleg of Tool and KC playing live together. It's neato.
Woah woah woah.

http://www.yousendit.com/

[ThePatient]

King Crimson is awesome.. I love the bootleg of Tool and KC playing live together. It's neato.
I still love you for that. :-*

[repcak]

i know its offtopic, but a few of you are nin fans i today i uploaded my own homepage where you will find photos from my nin-conert

www.repcak.tk

[Kage]

The link isn't working for me. I copy/pasted it exactly as it is, and it can't be found. :confused:

[Kurrpt]

It is impossible to judge how bands are live through live videos


hmmm...

id say to an extent.


I saw a live show of TOoL, heard things from my bro, and id say they kick arse, though ive never seen them live myself


/:upset: about NOT seeing them live when they came


DON'T ask

[Artemician]

Off topic, but I figure that anyone who would be interested in this will likely be in this thread. I got King Crimson's live DVD, and its great. Trey Gunn and his Warr is incredibly cool. And Robert Fripp just sat off to the side under a blue light and just looked like a mad scientist the whole time. If you can get your hands on this, I highly recommend it.

...check torrents, that's where I got it...

I saw an interesting King Crimson DVD a while ago. Apart from the normal live show, it has a little feature where you choose a vocalist, soloist and rhythm section for 21st Century Schizoid Man out of any Crimson era. Alas, I didn't get it. It was interesting feature, but I didn't particularly think the normal songs on it were worth buying a DVD for.

[repcak]

The link isn't working for me. I copy/pasted it exactly as it is, and it can't be found. :confused:

hm? impossible...

link (http://www.repcak.tk/)

[Kage]

Still not working.

[Huber]

It works for me. However it's in a language I don't understand. I found some avatars though...

[repcak]

yeah, its in german. did you like the avatars? self-made :D

Kage: i don't know why you can't enter this site.... is it blocked by your firewall/computer.... try another computer.

[Darkness]

"CHAT PARTY WITH MEMBERS OF TOOL

It 's looking pretty good for another OCTOBER 12th CHAT PARTY with the MEMBERS OF TOOL for you members of the 'Collective.' We did this last year, had some fun, so I thought we'd try it again (I'm sure you TA guys will think of something to ask them about). Along with the members of the band, it's also your chance to chat with some of their musician friends, including the members of BUTCHER (Sasha, Camella, Reeder & more), kaRIN and Statik of COLLIDE, Aaron and some of the guys from ISIS, Buzz and Dale of THE MELVINS, some PLC folk and VOLTO! As soon as I get the Silver Coleman back from Heather's, and figure out who's going to take charge of the grill, I'll get back with you with more details. "

Look! News! Sadly its not album related... :upset:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

How exactly does that work, though? Like, is it some AIM chat room, or what? :confused:

Is there a newsletter yet?

[Darkness]

Members of the 'Collective'?? Whats that?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Perhaps it's (gay) exclusive to members of Tool Army.

Screw that, I'm not gonna pay 90 bucks to chat to Tool online. :skeptical:

[Darkness]

It costs 90 bucks to join Tool Army? Whoa...

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I may or may not have just pulled that digit out of my ***, but I do recall reading that somewhere. (a)

https://www.toolarmy.com/catalog/login.php

Read the bottom part. "Not a member? Join the Collective Concious."

What it costs:
From $40 to $99, depending on which membership package you choose.

Blegh.

[Txus]

That's too much money IMO, but HEY it's tool so i would buy it.

[Darkness]

Wow, what a rip.

"We bathe in expensive plum sauce, because our fan base will pay any cost"

Edit to post above: HA!! That was perfect timing.

[Dude3]

Money! Ouch!

[Huber]

So, if the new album leaks, are you guys going to wait for it's release? Chances of a leak are slim because it's such a secret, but if it did would you get the leak?

I think I'd control myself. I really like getting albums right when they come out and enjoying the CD fresh from the case I bought it in.

[Darkness]

Wouldn't even think about downloading the leak... if a songs released to the radio though, I'd download that one.