Tool

[clearvision]

Whoah I've never seen Maynards voice critiscised before, what bands have vocalists that sound similair to him?

[superpeer]

Whoah I've never seen Maynards voice critiscised before, what bands have vocalists that sound similair to him?

Meh, that's the main thing that bother me about Tool, (apart from the fanboys :p), the vocals, I really don't like them. And like I said, all those post-grunge nu metal bands, I'm not sure about their names. Sevendust, Cold, ??? Those things.

[Futuro]

Meh, that's the main thing that bother me about Tool, (apart from the fanboys ), the vocals, I really don't like them. And like I said, all those post-grunge nu metal bands, I'm not sure about their names. Sevendust, Cold, ??? Those things.I like his voice alot, but we all have our opinions. most tool fan on here are not fanboys, infact i make fun of tool all the time, so feel free to criticize them:)

I dont agree with the "cold" "sevendust" comment, the music is more technicaly thought out than that stuff (more oddtimes, tribal tendencies ETC )

[superpeer]

Sure, they have that, but to me it sounds like nu metal with issues. :\

[clearvision]

I dont agree with the "cold" "sevendust" comment, the music is more technicaly thought out than that stuff (more oddtimes, tribal tendencies ETC )

He was talking about the vocal sound, I never notice any similarities with those bands, I think Pete from Chevelle and Chad from Mudvayne have the closest voices to Maynard.

[superpeer]

He was talking about the vocal sound, I never notice any similarities with those bands, I think Pete from Chevelle and Chad from Mudvayne have the closest voices to Maynard.

Yeah, I guess I meant those bands, I don't like those bands either, I hate that type of voice, it's not just Maynard.

[Futuro]

Sure, they have that, but to me it sounds like nu metal with issues. I dont understand what you meant by that? you might like lateralus better than Aenima, but if you didnt like Aenima i doubt there will be much of a difference. :)

[clearvision]

Yeah, I guess I meant those bands, I don't like those bands either, I hate that type of voice, it's not just Maynard.

What vocals are more your thing then? The high vocals? Claudio from coheed and cambria, omar from the mars volta? Harsher vocals?

[Kurrpt]

nu metal?


explain?


i hear refrences, but no backing

[Prince of Darkness]

IMO, Maynard's voice is one of the best in the Rock/Metal scene of today. He is very clear, has the abillity to go high and low(ish) and also does a great sceam.
He certainly improved from Opiate till now. And I think he could go beyond extremely good on the new album(new album....).

[superpeer]

What vocals are more your thing then? The high vocals? Claudio from coheed and cambria, omar from the mars volta? Harsher vocals?

Nah, I don't like high vocals either, mostly. :lol:

I like neutral vocals, not too whiny, not too high, you know, normal people. I like Harsh vocals as well.


nu metal?


explain?


i hear refrences, but no backing

Well, like I said, to me they sound like those bands, with longer tracks. The simple riffs, repetitive structure of the song, 'whiny' vocals, just the overall sound. I don't know if I would call them just Nu-metal, but they do have lots of similarities.

[Knifeboy]

I wouldn't really call the riffs simple.. Well.. they are simple, but the way the simple riffs from the bass, and guitar interact, is more complex

[superpeer]

Maybe, but I just don't see the appeal of it.

[Futuro]

Maybe, but I just don't see the appeal of it.heh....i just noticed you post better than most regulars on here. :-/

There riffs are pretty basic, but im in love with danny carey.


/opens up closet to danny carey shrine <3

*sigh* someday danny.....someday.

[clearvision]

It's not really about the riffs, it's about the whole musical texture. The bass and drums sort out the rhythm to the song, the vocal line provides the melody, and the guitar just reinforces the vocals maybe adding a countermelody once in a while.

[repcak]

i dont call them progressive, but thats me.

i will call tool progressive-metal

[Kurrpt]

can we NOT try to influence this guy anymore


PLEASE

[Futuro]

i will call tool progressive-metal

Pravada, and Freewill are progressive metal. Tool on the other hand is modern rock.

If fringe progressive metal acts are to be included, Tool would be the most popular group in the genre. Tool exploded to prominence in the mid 90s with the release of their third album, Ænima, and have since gone on to become one of the most popular rock acts in the world. Their eclectic mix of heavy metal, rhythmic drumming, complex structures and deep lyrics has prompted many people to classify them as a progressive metal band although their music differs substantially from traditional progressive acts (see Diversity section, below). However, Tool's next release, 2001's Lateralus solidified the band's standing in the Progressive Metal scene with its complex structure and highly conceptual nature, although some purists contend that Tool is more akin to Industrial music rather than traditional Progressive metal. im more of the "purist". they are not progressive metal at all to me.

[superpeer]

It's not really about the riffs, it's about the whole musical texture. The bass and drums sort out the rhythm to the song, the vocal line provides the melody, and the guitar just reinforces the vocals maybe adding a countermelody once in a while.

Yeah, I guess it is, but since I don't like the vocals much, It's hard for me to get into it, hence leaving long and simple structure with no melody ---> bores me. :) If only I liked the vocals, it would have been way different.


can we NOT try to influence this guy anymore


PLEASE

Can't handle the criticism, fanboy? :p

heh....i just noticed you post better than most regulars on here. :-/

There riffs are pretty basic, but im in love with danny carey.


/opens up closet to danny carey shrine <3

*sigh* someday danny.....someday.

Yeah, the drums were pretty cool. :)


i will call tool progressive-metal

Naaah, Faith is right, they're more modern rock.

[Otherside]

To me, Tool is alternative prog rock. There are prog genres outside of metal people.

[BlindWriting]

I would say Tool was a dark, heavy, but artistic rock band throughout the Opiate/Undertow years, and added some slight prog influences during the Aenima days. Lateralus I could classify as progressive.

[repcak]

for me tool is still more metal than rock, but thats only my opinion...

and can you mention me some modern rock bands that will suit to the style of tool?

[repcak]

I would say Tool was a dark, heavy, but artistic rock band throughout the Opiate/Undertow years, and added some slight prog influences during the Aenima days. Lateralus I could classify as progressive.

yeah, thats a good definition... i can live with 'dark, heavy rock'

[Futuro]

and can you mention me some modern rock bands that will suit to the style of tool? no, thats because tool do it better than most modern rock bands. just because someone is better and more intresting, doesnt mean that we should start another genre.

[superpeer]

Porcupine Tree is pretty much the same genre, in my opinion.

[joemarsh]

no, thats because tool do it better than most modern rock bands. just because someone is better and more intresting, doesnt mean that we should start another genre.


Ludacris is alot like tool .....................PsyKE!!!!


no for real the most similer band is prolly ............hmmm none really

there like pink floyd mixed with a dude playing a tabla mixed with i dunno.....

[clearvision]

Similair bands...

Kyuss, 30 seconds to mars, A perfect circle, Chevlle, cog

[lucky luciano]

I would like to hear it if you dont mind :) (i think they suck too so dont worry)

why the hell are you in a tool thread if you think they suck

[clearvision]

why the hell are you in a tool thread if you think they suck

It's a little joke he has going on, I don't quite get it though, sadly :(

[Otherside]

why the hell are you in a tool thread if you think they suck

Tool does suck, this thread is just a front for our underground drug ring.

[lucky luciano]

really

[Kage]

I've always considered Tool Prog Metal, because they were the first progressive band I got into before I realized the acutal depth of the genre, so I just stick with that because that's what they've always been to me.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

and can you mention me some modern rock bands that will suit to the style of tool?

There aren't really that many bands that are similair to Tool, but here are some bands that most Tool fans seem to like:

Porcupine Tree
Dredg
Pink Floyd
Opeth
Cog
Rush
A Perfect Circle(duh)

About categorizing Tool- Based on their overall sound, I'd say they're a prog rock band. I mean, sure, they have their less complex songs, like Stinkfist, and everything from Opiate, but for the most part, each song is a lot more complex when compared to your typical soup of rock bands. Let's take 46&2, for example. Aside from brining up the mathematical aspect of the song, there are tons of riffs involved in the song, and multiple variations of the chorus and verse riffs that resurface throughout the song. There are a lot of Tool songs like this, where they have an intro, chorus, verse, chorus, verse, then a basically entirely different mult- minute song in between, chorus verse, outro. Lateralus is similair to this, Ticks and Leeches is(I'm not even counting the segue in the middle) and a few more. This style of song structure makes for an extremely progressive sound.

Oh, and did I mention Third Eye? The most free-form song ever made? :p

[repcak]

Similair bands...

Kyuss, 30 seconds to mars, A perfect circle, Chevlle, cog

kyuss doesn't sound like tool ... its stoner rock :)

Tool does suck, this thread is just a front for our underground drug ring.

****, now you've told them; police will come, arrest us, and this thread will be closed :upset:

[Kage]

Porcupine Tree is pretty much the same genre, in my opinion.
Porcupine Tree is modern rock?

[repcak]

I've always considered Tool Prog Metal, because they were the first progressive band I got into before I realized the acutal depth of the genre, so I just stick with that because that's what they've always been to me.

yeah, at least kage is on my side :p

[lucky luciano]

Well, I didn't like it. The album started off pretty good, Stinkfist is an okay song, apart from the vocals, that's something that annoyed me throughout the entire album, the vocals are so bland, whiny even. I don't really know why you call them progressive, especially with maynard's vocals, they sounds like another post-grungy nu-metal band, I'm not saying that to piss you guys off. Well, maybe a little. :lol:

But seriously, they do sound like a lot of those bands, I forget all their names, the ones who have videos on Launch, only Tool's songs are longer. All of the songs just go on and on, with the exception of Stinkfist, which is about the right length.

The album wasn't particularly terrible or anything, but the fact that it was so long, I mean 9 minutes or even 13 minutes for a song that barely even shows a lot of change. Sure, there were some moments where I would think 'Hmm, nice riff' or sometimes I would enjoy part of the song. The drums were pretty nice, I guess.

Best songs : Stinkfist and especially Intermission, at least that song had some energy.

That reminds me, what's with all the useless tracks? They only add to the boredom.

Overall, I would give it a 2/5 or so, maybe 1.5/5 for beign so damn long.



RUN!

thats great that you actually listened to the whole album but I really don't care to hear what you thought of it cause it doesn't sound like you know **** about music. I guess you shouldve listened to lateralus if you wanted to hear some complex songs, but they probably wouldve been to long for you.

[superpeer]

thats great that you actually listened to the whole album but I really don't care to hear what you thought of it cause it doesn't sound like you know **** about music. I guess you shouldve listened to lateralus if you wanted to hear some complex songs, but they probably wouldve been to long for you.

I know more about music than you, mother****er.

[Kage]

I know more about music than you, mother****er.
While that's true, to say that Third Eye has little change is just plain foolish.

Your comment on Porcupine Tree was also pretty foolish.

[lucky luciano]

thats great im glad you think so superqueer but all i hear are stupid things from you.

[Kage]

Hey, man, cut it out now or get the **** out of this thread. Can't you handle a little criticism of the band?

[superpeer]

While that's true, to say that Third Eye has little change is just plain foolish.

Your comment on Porcupine Tree was also pretty foolish.


I've only heard songs of in Absentia, and they're both clearly prog rock, same style. That's what I hear. Just a bit more energetic.


And Third Eye didn't have much change for the length it had, to pull off a thirteen minute track, you have to surprise me with something new each minute, otherwise it gets hopelessly boring.


thats great im glad you think so superqueer but all i hear are stupid things from you.


Great point, man, really shows off your vast musical knowledge, not to mention your near genius intelligence.

[repcak]

i think i have to check out porcupine tree... i once downloaded the song 'piano lesson' and i hated it, cause i heard it on the radio all the time.

but that was some years ago

[Kage]

I've only heard songs of in Absentia, and they're both clearly prog rock, same style. That's what I hear. Just a bit more energetic.


And Third Eye didn't have much change for the length it had, to pull off a thirteen minute track, you have to surprise me with something new each minute, otherwise it gets hopelessly boring.
But I thought that Tool is modern rock in your opinion? Because Porcupine Tree is clearly a progressive rock band, that's where I was confused.

Eh, I guess you're right...there are basically two segemnts of the song with different main melodies that get varied throughout the whole thing. I find it interesting enough. :-\

[lucky luciano]

superpeer you must not like pink floyd one bit huh?

[clearvision]

Third eye doesn't change that much. It only has a few riffs, though i just love the atmosphere it gives off, and maynards 'so good to see you...' bit is quality. Oh and the solos are great too.

But i can see where 'peer is coming from. He doesn't like the vocals, so tool is pretty much lost. Wouldn't you agree that most songs are driven by Maynard? The rest of the band just give him a building block or complement him.

And come on Saying Kyuss aren't liek tool because it's 'stoner rock' What the **** is stoner rock? Rock played by stoners? Why does that make it different to rock played by non-stoners? I think the way that kyuss is very riff based, without showing much virtuosity on the guitr side of things is comparable to tool. As is the general sludgieness of the music.

[superpeer]

But I thought that Tool is modern rock in your opinion? Because Porcupine Tree is clearly a progressive rock band, that's where I was confused.

Eh, I think there's enough change in Third Eye. There are basically two segemnts of the song with different main melodies that get varied throughout the whole thing. I find it interesting enough. :-\

Well yeah, but since you were all calling Tool progressive rock, I thought it would have been clearer. I guess, yeah, both are basically modern rock, with progressive elements, but not enough to be called progressive in my opinion. But then again, I'm not a big prog fan, sometimes making really long songs is considered progressive. Maybe i'm just interpreting the term wrongly.

And yeah, you must like it because you're probably a tool fan, that's why you're here. It might have been caused by the fact, that it's all the way at the end, and I was getting very bored. :p

My loss, probably, Tool fans seem to quite passionate about the music.


superpeer you must not like pink floyd one bit huh?

I'm not a big fan, no. Are you gonna use that as an argument?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

And come on Saying Kyuss aren't liek tool because it's 'stoner rock' What the **** is stoner rock? Rock played by stoners? Why does that make it different to rock played by non-stoners? I think the way that kyuss is very riff based, without showing much virtuosity on the guitr side of things is comparable to tool. As is the general sludgieness of the music.

Heh, uh, stoner rock is a genre. That's like saying "Death metal is all about people killing other people."

[BlindWriting]

But i can see where 'peer is coming from. He doesn't like the vocals, so tool is pretty much lost. Wouldn't you agree that most songs are driven by Maynard? The rest of the band just give him a building block or complement him.
Actually Maynard would heavily disagree with that statement. He's adament in saying that he is strictly just 1/4 of the band, and that he's adding to the whole. I can upload an interview with him that someone else posted here months ago.

[Futuro]

Great point, man, really shows off your vast musical knowledge, not to mention your near genius intelligence. christ! dont base your opinion of US on him please thanks.

thats great that you actually listened to the whole album but I really don't care to hear what you thought of it cause it doesn't sound like you know **** about music. I guess you shouldve listened to lateralus if you wanted to hear some complex songs, but they probably wouldve been to long for you. Neg rep and STFU please :thumb:

[Kage]

Well yeah, but since you were all calling Tool progressive rock, I thought it would have been clearer. I guess, yeah, both are basically modern rock, with progressive elements, but not enough to be called progressive in my opinion. But then again, I'm not a big prog fan, sometimes making really long songs is considered progressive. Maybe i'm just interpreting the term wrongly.

And yeah, you must like it because you're probably a tool fan, that's why you're here. It might have been caused by the fact, that it's all the way at the end, and I was getting very bored. :p

My loss, probably, Tool fans seem to quite passionate about the music.
Acutally, if you listen to Porcupine Tree's old stuff, then they're more than progressive elements...they're a full-on Progressive rock band. It's only lately that they've been more "modern-rocky." Stuff like Voyage 34 and Metonia is Prog rock at its most pure.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

If you took away one peice of Tool, you'd be lost, IMO. Like BlindWriting said, Maynard is just adding to the whole.

[lucky luciano]

for some weird reason i don't think tool is the only band with passionate fans, i don't know maybe im wrong AREN'T MOST PEOPLE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE MUSIC THEY LISTEN TO?

[repcak]

But i can see where 'peer is coming from. He doesn't like the vocals, so tool is pretty much lost. Wouldn't you agree that most songs are driven by Maynard? The rest of the band just give him a building block or complement him.

isn't it the opposite? i once read an interview how tool is making his records; the band plays as long they come up with a good riff,then maynard tries to see/feel the whole picture and think what lyrics will sound good, to complete the picture.

And come on Saying Kyuss aren't liek tool because it's 'stoner rock' What the **** is stoner rock? Rock played by stoners? Why does that make it different to rock played by non-stoners? I think the way that kyuss is very riff based, without showing much virtuosity on the guitr side of things is comparable to tool. As is the general sludgieness of the music.

kyuss is more in the style of quotsa, than tool. that's what i wanted to say. and yes, they have great riffs.

[superpeer]

christ! dont base your opinion of US on him please thanks.


I didn't? :\

Look, if you guys want me to get the hell out, just tell me. :lol:


Acutally, if you listen to Porcupine Tree's old stuff, then they're more than progressive elements...they're a full-on Progressive rock band. It's only lately that they've been more "modern-rocky." Stuff like Voyage 34 and Metonia is Prog rock at its most pure.

Ah. Well, like I said, I've only heard newer stuff.

[Futuro]

why the hell are you in a tool thread if you think they suck Better question. Why are you more ignorant than me? you deserve to die.

for some weird reason i don't think tool is the only band with passionate fans, i don't know maybe im wrong AREN'T MOST PEOPLE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE MUSIC THEY LISTEN TO? Caps lock is right next to your pinky. Turn off please


And all this genre talk is giving me a headache.....

I didn't? :\ ok good. :cool:

Look, if you guys want me to get the hell out, just tell me. Nah, you are fine. :)

[Kage]

I didn't? :\

Look, if you guys want me to get the hell out, just tell me. :lol:
YES! You've compltely disrupted the harmony of this thread :p

Actually, this is the only Tool-related talk we've even had in forever.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

for some weird reason i don't think tool is the only band with passionate fans, i don't know maybe im wrong AREN'T MOST PEOPLE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE MUSIC THEY LISTEN TO?

Coincidentally, most bands also have idiot fans.

Hint hint..

[superpeer]

YES! You've compltely disrupted the harmony of this thread :p

Actually, this is the only Tool-related talk we've even had in forever.

That's what I thought, you fags! If all of you guys would post in the community thread, it wouldn't die as much.

[clearvision]

Heh, uh, stoner rock is a genre. That's like saying "Death metal is all about people killing other people."

Hmm point taken, but i think it's a ridiculous name for a genre :)

Maynard can say what he likes about how he fits into the band, but for me it's all about complementing his lines. the drums, bass and guitar just back him up and fill in the spaces when he doesn't sing. This does complete the band, and he is just a part of the band, without the other members the band wouldn't be as good. But he is the main focal point of the band..

[lucky luciano]

faith are you that worried about what people on internet think of you? If so im sorry and maybe YOU should STFU. please.

[Kage]

That's what I thought, you fags! If all of you guys would post in the community thread, it wouldn't die as much.
We've got our own community right here.

/clique


Hey luciano, get the hell out of here. All you're doing is casuing conflict.

[Futuro]

faith are you that worried about what people on internet think of you? If so im sorry and maybe YOU should STFU. please. Dang it :upset: i totally got Pwned.

You > ME im so sorry.

That's what I thought, you fags! If all of you guys would post in the community thread, it wouldn't die as much. :lol:

[superpeer]

faith are you that worried about what people on internet think of you? If so im sorry and maybe YOU should STFU. please.

Are you so worried about what people on the internet think of Tool?

[lucky luciano]

no i really could care less. but i don't really understand why you would come to a tool thread if you don't like them, explain that to me.

[clearvision]

Are you so worried about what people on the internet think of Tool?

Because he's a n00b, leave him alone..

It's one thing to come into our thread and slag off our band, it is completeley another to try and discipline our n00bs.

/overprotective.

no i really could care less. but i don't really understand why you would come to a tool thread if you don't like them, explain that to me.

He is a mod, he was fixing something. We told him how special tool were, he said give me an album I'll give you my opinion. Hence we invited him to come share his opinion, stop whining.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

faith are you that worried about what people on internet think of you? If so im sorry and maybe YOU should STFU. please.

I'd actually be happier if you died, than if faith did, personally. But hey, this is just me. I mean, some people must loooove morons, so I guess you can just take this as a grain of salt.


summary: GTFO


Jelle- I don't mean to push Tool on you or anything, but before you totally place Tool on your sucky list, give each song in individual listen. Like, maybe listen to one or two at a time, if you're not digging the length of the album. Skip the fillers, of course, but try it. Perhaps you'll find my enjoyment this way, or something. :p

[repcak]

http://www.metalstorm.ee/bands/view_band.php?band_id=tool

tool = avantgarde metal :D :D

[lucky luciano]

its just a friendly argument kage, take some midol and try to calm down

[Futuro]

no i really could care less. but i don't really understand why you would come to a tool thread if you don't like them, explain that to me. Cause I hate the band. My hole intraweb expirience is based on pissing off tool fans. HAHA that will show those freaks! :dude with the horns:

[lucky luciano]

lol
you are funny i give you that

[superpeer]

no i really could care less. but i don't really understand why you would come to a tool thread if you don't like them, explain that to me.

First of all, the expression is 'I couldn't care less', what you say makes no sense. Second of all, I came in here to see if I would like an entire album by them. And just because I'm saying negative things about Tool, doesn't mean it isn't ABOUT Tool. Got it?

[BlindWriting]

Dang it :upset: i totally got Pwned.

You > ME im so sorry.
yea man lol stop gettin PWNed all teh time ur makin us loOk bad :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Knifeboy]

Porcupine Tree is pretty much the same genre, in my opinion.

Do you dislike porcupine tree too?

(me readies the :angry: smiley)

[lucky luciano]

no could you explain some more

[Kage]

its just a friendly argument kage, take some midol and try to calm down
Nice...now you try to back out of it. Just leave, man, you suck.

[superpeer]

Do you dislike porcupine tree too?

(me readies the :angry: smiley)

Actually, I like some songs by them, I'm not entirely sure if I like them or not though.

no could you explain some more

Maybe when you're older, let's say 12?

[Knifeboy]

Actually, I like some songs by them, I'm not entirely sure if I like them or not though.


You've only heard In Absentia? .. If you're interested, you could tell me wich songs from it you liked, and I could most likely guide you to other tracks that you'd enjoy

[lucky luciano]

that ain't for like four years man. im only six but i still realize you don't know **** about music

[Killtacular]

...What?

[clearvision]

that ain't for like four years man. im only six but i still realize you don't know **** about music

Haha this guy's brilliant.

Forget 2+2=5

6+4=12 :cool:

[repcak]

that ain't for like four years man. im only six but i still realize you don't know **** about music

you are six and you wanna talk about tool?
lawl

you're too young to understand their music. i am nearly 20 and i don't even captured the whole picture of tool yet. there is so much to discover....

[Futuro]

that ain't for like four years man. im only six but i still realize you don't know **** about music Tellus what you know MIGHTY ONE!

(swear filter pwnd your *** ) :lol:

^irony^ :lol:

[lucky luciano]

well i was waiting for superqueer to correct that and once again think he is great for finding a typo or mistake in my math, but i nevermind i guess

[Rothmans]

He is obviously not six.

[superpeer]

that ain't for like four years man. im only six but i still realize you don't know **** about music

I think you already said that, little boy. Running out of things to say?

PS; Sorry, I don't do maths.

You've only heard In Absentia? .. If you're interested, you could tell me wich songs from it you liked, and I could most likely guide you to other tracks that you'd enjoy

I've heard stuff from that album yeah, I remember liking 'Strip the Soul' the best.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ah, you must hook him up with Russia on Ice! The only song that perhaps equals the darkness of Strip the Soul! :-D

[lucky luciano]

I think you already said that, little boy. Running out of things to say?




I've heard stuff from that album yeah, I remember liking 'Strip the Soul' the best.

i would much rather end this argument but if you want to continue thats fine by me, lets discuss the bands you listen to

[repcak]

i would much rather end this argument but if you want to continue thats fine by me, lets discuss the bands you listen to

hm... shouldn't you be in bed?

but that's a good idea... i'm gonna sleep...

[lucky luciano]

ya i should since you apparently believed that bit about me being six, lol

[Rothmans]

ya i should since you apparently believed that bit about me being six, lol


Gtfo and get cancer.

[lucky luciano]

ill get right on it

[Futuro]

i would much rather end this argument but if you want to continue thats fine by me, lets discuss the bands you listen to Dude, im gonna be serious for like the 3rd time ever in my life. Be happy this moment rarely comes around. Stop while you are ahead, you will probably try to share your crappy view of his music. And i would rather not hear it. I on the other hand could tell him what I like and what I dont like (I havent been a little bitch the past 30 minuets) so ....stop...k?

[lucky luciano]

how bout YOU GET THE **** OUT AND **** YOU MOTHER WITH A STEAKKNIFE

[BlindWriting]

Somebody ban the guy and finish it. Where's Ken?

[lucky luciano]

its only a matter of time before i get kicked out by you nerds so you can all celebrate because you were too stupid to have an intelligent conversation in the first place

[Futuro]

Somebody ban the guy and finish it. Where's Ken? no!!! please let him be, he is funny cause he gets pwnd by the swear filter everytime he says something.

[Futuro]

its only a matter of time before i get kicked out by you nerds so you can all celebrate because you were too stupid to have an intelligent conversation in the first place :confused:

how bout YOU GET THE **** OUT AND **** YOU MOTHER WITH A STEAKKNIFE :confused: Thats an intelligent conversation?

My mom talks like this to sewer rats. are you a sewer rat? that would clear alot of things up.

[superpeer]

Somebody ban the guy and finish it. Where's Ken?

Why does everyone forget that I'm a mod as well. :( Longer than any Rock and Metal mod as well.

its only a matter of time before i get kicked out by you nerds so you can all celebrate because you were too stupid to have an intelligent conversation in the first place

I think you don't understand the concept of an intelligent conversation. It doesn't consist of "YOU DONT KNOW **** ABOUT MUSIC". ok?

[lucky luciano]

its funny to you that i get pwned by the swear filter. its funny to me that people like you figure out ways around it

[superpeer]

It's also funny that I'm gonna ban you.

[Knifeboy]

Ah, you must hook him up with Russia on Ice! The only song that perhaps equals the darkness of Strip the Soul! :-D

Exactly what I was thinking.. :D

If you like Strip the soul, there's a great chance of you loving Russia on Ice
YSI of it here: http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28OSHS83T8XEP02U9TNHS35X4F

There's tonnes of other great dark PT songs if you enjoy this.. Half of their stuff is really gloomy, while the other half is more light and poppy

[superpeer]

Exactly what I was thinking.. :D

If you like Strip the soul, there's a great chance of you loving Russia on Ice
YSI of it here: http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28OSHS83T8XEP02U9TNHS35X4F

There's tonnes of other great dark PT songs if you enjoy this.. Half of their stuff is really gloomy, while the other half is more light and poppy


Thanks, I'll give it a listen. :)

[Knifeboy]

Anytime!.. If you want more just say the word

[Adam Jones is GOD]

From what i've read, we've shown a person who really doesnt like Tool that we're not mad fanboys, and its the n00bs that give us the bad reputation.

/steals PT download

[Kage]

Ah, you must hook him up with Russia on Ice! The only song that perhaps equals the darkness of Strip the Soul! :-D
Yay to Russia on Ice! My favorite PT song. I don't listen to it too often so it stays great and it's a treat to listen to.

To add something to this useless post, is there anyone else really digging the new Opeth album? I can safely say this is some of their best material I've ever heard.

[superpeer]

From what i've read, we've shown a person who really doesnt like Tool that we're not mad fanboys, and its the n00bs that give us the bad reputation.

/steals PT download

Yeah, you've all surprised me. <3

The fanboys only seem to show up when Tool is in some kind of poll.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Its due to the large number of lurkers who love to click pretty buttons and make the only band they've heard win a poll. Then they tell their friends, and they all start signing up.

Thats my theory anyway


To add something to this useless post, is there anyone else really digging the new Opeth album? I can safely say this is some of their best material I've ever heard.

Some of the clean mellow sections are the best they've done, but this one is taking some listening compared to the others. It seems like something ill grow to love more, as there are bits I picked out first listen that struck me

[Kage]

The first song completely blew me away. Also, Harlequin forest is an amazing song. I was afraid that the use of full-time keyboards would be overdone and sound waterd-down, but, aside from slight overuse on The Grand Conjuration, it's not overdone at all. It adds some great ambience to it. I also love the theme/concept of the album. It's very haunting. The artwork is brilliant.

[Futuro]

Yeah, you've all surprised me. <3

The fanboys only seem to show up when Tool is in some kind of poll. yeah someone told me about the multi votes for lateralus under the same IP(best album ever....i wasnt around at the time). most of us tool Regulars have useful things to say, and we all just like the band. i try to stay away from the tool fan persona, as does everyone in here.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I was listening it with the mindset of how these songs would work live, in excitement of next week (seeing them in London next week :) ). But I agree the keys add well instead of over-doing it

yeah someone told me about the multi votes for lateralus under the same IP(best album ever....i wasnt around at the time). most of us tool Regulars have useful things to say, and we all just like the band. i try to stay away from the tool fan persona, as does everyone in here.

I've not voted for Tool in this poll at all yet, and I only did once in the albums poll (I think)

[Knifeboy]

Even though I haven't listened to it for weeks, I still think the new opeth album is one of their best, and in fact, at the moment I'd say it is their best... The vocal work is absolutely stunning, I was so suprised that Mikaels voice actually could be more beautiful than it was on Damnation and Blackwater park.. And that his growls could be more evil than on Deliverance

[Futuro]

Opeth would be better if they had a Kazoo player to lighten up there heavy parts

/cant get into them because the death growl always sounds like he is saying "YOU TOOK MY MEAT LOAF!"

[Knifeboy]

Opeth would be better if they had a Kazoo player to lighten up there heavy parts

Hahaha


http://www.last.fm/user/Knifeboy/ <-- I always end up listening to dredg even though I have so much amazing music on my playlist... /living up to usertitle

[Killtacular]

'Tis pretty good, though as of now, I don't think it's their best. Better than Blackwater Park? Maybe, though I'm still undecided. Can't top Still Life.

[Kage]

Even though I haven't listened to it for weeks, I still think the new opeth album is one of their best, and in fact, at the moment I'd say it is their best... The vocal work is absolutely stunning, I was so suprised that Mikaels voice actually could be more beautiful than it was on Damnation and Blackwater park.. And that his growls could be more evil than on Deliverance
Agreed 100%.

His voice is just amazing. I was listening to it with a friend who'd never heard Opeth, and he was just stunned. He's a singer, and he was floored by Mikeal's singing/screaming abilities. BWP is/was my favorite, but this is almost topping it.

[BlindWriting]

I definitely want to pick up the new Opeth album. Blackwater Park is amazing, and after hearing Demon of the Fall, I'm dying to pick up My Arms, Your Hearse.


Why does everyone forget that I'm a mod as well. :( Longer than any Rock and Metal mod as well.
Ah. Sorry dude. Thanks for doing the deed, though.

[Endless Obsession]

Hey. Im just starting to really get into Tool and I already have Lateralus, and Ænima. I was just wondering if someone could do me a HUGE favor and upload Undertow for me that would be GREATLY appreciated.

Neurotoxin - Thanks man. If I had rep I would give you a lot because you have Uploaded so much for everyone around here.

[Neurotoxin]

Tool - Undertow
hxxp://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3GBE3G23F3YTH05ZWUY0HQ5FRY

[Darkness]

I know I'm really late and stuff, (was out buying new Opeth and listening and hanging with this girl...nevermind) but Superpeer dude... have you given any other albums a listen? I don't think you would like Lateralus (which happens to be my favorite :p) but what about Undertow? It has harsher vocals (to an extent) and shorter songs. If you want, I could get you a track or two?

Edit: just noticed someone else is uploading Undertow... listen to it Superpeer. :wave:

[Petary791]

I could have sex with the bass tone on Undertow.

I know you guys wanted to hear that.

[Darkness]

I could have sex with the bass tone on Undertow.

I know you guys wanted to hear that.
I did. :cool:


Well not really, but I don't think Paul gets enough credit. Its always like "Paul was good, but Justin is much much much better!!!". I like Paul.

[deathmetal]

Well, I didn't like it. The album started off pretty good, Stinkfist is an okay song, apart from the vocals, that's something that annoyed me throughout the entire album, the vocals are so bland, whiny even. I don't really know why you call them progressive, especially with maynard's vocals, they sounds like another post-grungy nu-metal band, I'm not saying that to piss you guys off. Well, maybe a little. :lol:

But seriously, they do sound like a lot of those bands, I forget all their names, the ones who have videos on Launch, only Tool's songs are longer. All of the songs just go on and on, with the exception of Stinkfist, which is about the right length.

The album wasn't particularly terrible or anything, but the fact that it was so long, I mean 9 minutes or even 13 minutes for a song that barely even shows a lot of change. Sure, there were some moments where I would think 'Hmm, nice riff' or sometimes I would enjoy part of the song. The drums were pretty nice, I guess.

Best songs : Stinkfist and especially Intermission, at least that song had some energy.

That reminds me, what's with all the useless tracks? They only add to the boredom.

Overall, I would give it a 2/5 or so, maybe 1.5/5 for beign so damn long.



RUN!

The songs are long, and there are some useless tracks, but above all they're pretty good. At least their lyrics mean something, and you have to actually listen to the music to get the meaning or whatever. It's not just some useless "I f*cking hate you" bs, but thats my own opinion

[Kosmos Tree]

I needed over one year to get into Laterlaus, i even disliked it after i heard it the first time. Today Tool is my favourite band, so you should give them another listening, maybe it'll also grow on you.

[horseman]

tool are a band which grow on you, i know lateralus took me fookin ages to get into, now i loves it

unless you start with opiate, which is a kick-*** album, but unfortunately it isnt proggy tool, just pissed-off angry tool.....with paul

[Neurotoxin]

Tool - Undertow
hxxp://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=204YFSD7FV09G3V6ZLFRBVKMOW

Apparently the first link didn't work. Try this.

[superpeer]

Alright, I'll listen to that album. :p

[clearvision]

See, you can't get enough of tool!

[superpeer]

Haha, I do remember hearing a song from that album and thinking it was okay. So who knows? ;)

[clearvision]

It was Sober, I remember you saying (i think). Yeah it is a top song, there are a few others, Intolerance, Flood and undertow.

And 4 degrees before AJIG shoots me in my ****ing head!

[Kurrpt]

i really dont like sober......at all....

never did.

Can only watch the video

[Riva]

Undertow is actually my favourite Tool album.

[Kurrpt]

im a huge fan of undertow, 4 degrees, and prison sex

[Riva]

Yeah, Bottom, Intolerance and 4 Degrees are my top tracks on that album.

[sgt.bukkake]

prison sex is one of my favorite Tool songs but the lyrics are ****ing creepy

[Prince of Darkness]

Yeah, Prison sex is good, but concidering the lyrics....strange.

Undertow was in the beginning when they didn't have a lot of knowledge, but enough to make a great album. But, I think we all agree that its not up there with Lateralus or Aenima.

A while back, I saw Maynard James Keenan(The MX user) post a discoraphy. It had another cd between Undertow and Aenima. Somethin ......Saurus? Do you know what it is?

[SonorKen]

Salival. Its the combination CD/DVD that is really rare and hard to get.

[clearvision]

Salival. Its the combination CD/DVD that is really rare and hard to get.

It was between Aenima and Lateralus, Not undertow an Aenima. :-/

[Prince of Darkness]

yeah. the thing I saw was a long name. Made I think 1995. I'm not kidding. Well thats what MJK(user) said.

[Kurrpt]

u guys ever hear 3rd leg....
i got that

[Prince of Darkness]

No. tell us more.

[Kurrpt]

its an all live CD (import i believe)


i love it because it has prison sex, with the EXTRA VERSE



/true story

[Prince of Darkness]

Is it a bootleg? Cause all bootleg I know is the SOBER one.

[Kurrpt]

Is it a bootleg? Cause all bootleg I know is the SOBER one.


well, i would have to assume that at one time it WAS bootlegged, but it doesnt seem to be of a bootleg nature.


The quality is reminescent (sp) of salival

[SonorKen]

Hmmm I dont recall anything made between Aenema and Lateralus.

Opiate - Undertow - Salival - Aenema - Lateralus.

[Prince of Darkness]

Strange. Never heard of it. But even stranger is that other cd i've read about. It's probably a very important bootleg.

[clearvision]

Hmmm I dont recall anything made between Aenema and Lateralus.

Opiate - Undertow - Salival - Aenema - Lateralus.

I do...It's called salival, since it features re-worked versions of Aenema songs, I would assume it comes after Aenema? No?

[Kurrpt]

yea urrite, its AFTER ænemea

[clearvision]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/artist/glance/-/38175/ref=m_art_dp/103-8946813-1067056

Have a scroll down that for proof.

[Kurrpt]

i dont need proof, but thanks anyways

[Prince of Darkness]

Ask MJK(user) when U see him again. It was definatly made between Undertow and Aenema(1993-1996). But the name eludes me at the moment....it had a saur or saurus in it.

BTW: I know people are checking for any signs at the Toolband site, but this one really hits me:
Remember some guy gave the new album a release date(26 Sept 2005) and a name (Eleupheria?Sp?), but at the site, the Aug newsletter was posted on Aug 26, 2005. see what I mean? I couldn't ignore it...

[SonorKen]

You guys are smoking crack.


Lateralus was released May 15, 2001
Aenema was released October 1, 1996
Salival was released December 12, 2000
Undertow was released April 6, 1993
Opiate was released March 10, 1992

[Kurrpt]

Ask MJK(user) when U see him again. It was definatly made between Undertow and Aenema(1993-1996). But the name eludes me at the moment....it had a saur or saurus in it.

BTW: I know people are checking for any signs at the Toolband site, but this one really hits me:
Remember some guy gave the new album a release date(26 Sept 2005) and a name (Eleupheria?Sp?), but at the site, the Aug newsletter was posted on Aug 26, 2005. see what I mean? I couldn't ignore it...


dude, if the DVD had the video of ænema on it, how is this possible

[clearvision]

You guys are smoking crack.


Lateralus was released May 15, 2001
Aenema was released October 1, 1996
Salival was released December 12, 2000
Undertow was released April 6, 1993
Opiate was released March 10, 1992

:lol:.

[Prince of Darkness]

No! not Silival. The other thing.

[Kurrpt]

You guys are smoking crack.


Lateralus was released May 15, 2001
Aenema was released October 1, 1996
Salival was released December 12, 2000
Undertow was released April 6, 1993
Opiate was released March 10, 1992


thank you...

and i tried it once, but didnt like it

[SonorKen]

I have no idea what your talking about. If there is something else out there Id like to know. I don't think there is, Im sure I would have bought it.

There are some total crap documentaries out there, ones that the band didn't authorize, maybe your talking about that stuff. Unauthorized stuff holds no merit tho.

[Kurrpt]

No! not Silival. The other thing.


the other thing....


im not sure if it ever got a real release. I know they have lyrics for the extra verse and sh!t on that official site though (for the extra verse)

[Kurrpt]

I have no idea what your talking about. If there is something else out there Id like to know. I don't think there is, Im sure I would have bought it.

There are some total crap documentaries out there, ones that the band didn't authorize, maybe your talking about that stuff. Unauthorized stuff holds no merit tho.



i assure you i have the CD. My bro had it, and i took it from him

[Prince of Darkness]

MJK(user) knows his Tool and he put it there on his discogrphy. I'm not talking porkies.

[Kurrpt]

"....so sweet was your surrender. WE HAVE BECOME ONE. I have become my terror, and you my prescious LIVING MARTYR"


thats part of the extra verse....

i forget some of it before then

[Prince of Darkness]

It looks so familliar....I've seen that before...oh. yeah. In the Tool FAQ.

[SonorKen]

i assure you i have the CD. My bro had it, and i took it from him
Cool, upload it to YSI and post up the link to the download.

[repcak]

well, considering they are about having sex, in prison, up the butt, thats a natural response

i can remember when 2yrs ago my cousin came to me (after i lend him a tool-cd) and said that he likes 'prison sex' so much and its the best song he ever heard.

well, i said nothing, cause he was 13yrs old and still learns english at school. with 13 your english is too bad to understand lyrics. that was funny - now he is 15yrs - hm, i have to ask him if he still likes that song :lol:

[Kurrpt]

the extra verse makes owning that CD so worth it.


When i saw it (burned) in his CD collection, i almost sh!t myself because


1. never saw it
2. never heard of it
3. thought it was fake

i listened to it, he said he would make a copy, never did, so i just beat it from him

[Kurrpt]

Cool, upload it to YSI and post up the link to the download.


well, i cant do it here (at work) since i fukked the usb ports (drivers) and i dont have the access to fix it


at home i have a 56k modem, that connects at 50.6 (if im lucky) so im not sure exactly how i could do that

[Kurrpt]

i can remember when 2yrs ago my cousin came to me (after i lend him a tool-cd) and said that he likes 'prison sex' so much and its the best song he ever heard.

well, i said nothing, cause he was 13yrs old and still learns english at school. with 13 your english is too bad to understand lyrics. that was funny - now he is 15yrs - hm, i have to ask him if he still likes that song :lol:


haha i like the song, i just refuse to paint a mental picture in my head...


4 degrees lyrics are real bad too, but u didnt mention that haha

[Prince of Darkness]

You're such a caring brother.

Is the cover nicely done like the real Tool albums, or does it have MJK's face on it?


EDIT: OMG! Triple post! :lol:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

well, i cant do it here (at work) since i fukked the usb ports (drivers) and i dont have the access to fix it


at home i have a 56k modem, that connects at 50.6 (if im lucky) so im not sure exactly how i could do that

Get back to work. What the hell are you doing on here? Earn some money. :thumb:

[Prince of Darkness]

i can remember when 2yrs ago my cousin came to me (after i lend him a tool-cd) and said that he likes 'prison sex' so much and its the best song he ever heard.

well, i said nothing, cause he was 13yrs old and still learns english at school. with 13 your english is too bad to understand lyrics. that was funny - now he is 15yrs - hm, i have to ask him if he still likes that song :lol:


:lol: that's funny. When i was 13, I understood that. :amaze: :lol:

Have you guys ever seen the Technology part at www.DannyCarey.com ?
Go to future. A taste of his new set. Sweet purple.... :cool:



Would you look at that!post 600

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Would you look at that!post 600

Congrats.

[Futuro]

Have you guys ever seen the Technology part at www.DannyCarey.com ?
Go to future. A taste of his new set. Sweet purple.... only new electronics, he is still using his bronze kit as shown in the studio pics.

[Kurrpt]

You're such a caring brother.

Is the cover nicely done like the real Tool albums, or does it have MJK's face on it?


EDIT: OMG! Triple post! :lol:


ive never seen the cover actually...

and whoever told me to get back to work, im on the fukking phone right now

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

ive never seen the cover actually...

and whoever told me to get back to work, im on the fukking phone right now

Sure you are.

[Kurrpt]

Sure you are.


yea, im talking to a pharmacist on my headset.....

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

yea, im talking to a pharmacist on my headset.....

Is that what you call your drug dealer these days?

[Kurrpt]

Is that what you call your drug dealer these days?


alright well, if you dont believe me, i really couldnt care less :lol:


if you KNEW me, you'd understand. Considering the way you are conducting yourself, im not sure id want to know you :lol:

[Endless Obsession]

Tool - Undertow
hxxp://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=204YFSD7FV09G3V6ZLFRBVKMOW

Apparently the first link didn't work. Try this.

Thanks again Neuro. You are the most generous guy around.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

alright well, if you dont believe me, i really couldnt care less :lol:


if you KNEW me, you'd understand. Considering the way you are conducting yourself, im not sure id want to know you :lol:

What's that supposed to mean? :lol:

[Kurrpt]

What's that supposed to mean? :lol:


its means you are ignorant to the fact, and not worth the time it could/would take for me to prove otherwise

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

its means you are ignorant to the fact, and not worth the time it could/would take for me to prove otherwise

Yeah? Well, your avatar sucks.

[Kurrpt]

Yeah? Well, your avatar sucks.



and urs is streets of rage :lol:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

and urs is streets of rage :lol:

Hey! It's Streets of Rage 2. Get it right. :p

[Kurrpt]

Hey! It's Streets of Rage 2. Get it right. :p


ur rite, its worse

[Shadius]

Classic gaming. Along with Golden Axe.. I used to play those so much as a little kid. Mega-Drives were awesome. Sonic the Hedgehog anyone?

[SonorKen]

well, i cant do it here (at work) since i fukked the usb ports (drivers) and i dont have the access to fix it


at home i have a 56k modem, that connects at 50.6 (if im lucky) so im not sure exactly how i could do that
You have to upload it, doesnt matter how long it takes, cus if ya don't then everyone will think your full of crap.

Using YSI is SIMPLE. You goto www.yousendit.com, enter the email address you want to send it to, mine, knance@ntelos.net click on the file and press send. If you work on the phone you can send stuff YSI, a 10 year old could do it.


GUYS, DONT SPAM THIS THREAD. Please don't force me to ban people for spamming this thread.

[clearvision]

You have to upload it, doesnt matter how long it takes, cus if ya don't then I will secerely restrict your posting privilages


^What you should have wrote.

[Kurrpt]

haha i know how to yousendit thank you...

ive up loaded plenty of albums in my day, until i fukked up the drivers.


You could believe me or not, no skin off my nose. I have YET to lie on the internet, cause i really see no point in it. Who am i trying to impress ya know?


actually, i may be able to use my BOYS computer. Id prolly use megaupload if i were to do anything. Ill see what i can do for ya though

[Kurrpt]

^What you should have wrote.


eh, ill learn more theory if thats the case

[SonorKen]

Ok, in all seriousness, quit with the double and triple posting. Use the edit feature and put more information in the post you just made. I have officially brought out the ban hammer.

[Kurrpt]

Ok, in all seriousness, quit with the double and triple posting. Use the edit feature and put more information in the post you just made. I have officially brought out the ban hammer.


hmm...

i can leave :lol:

[Endless Obsession]

hmm...

i can leave :lol:

Or you can just follow the simplest instructions and not double post.


Neuro, the same thing happened. IDK whats wrong, but I know its not my computer. I guess Im right back where I started.

If anyone has Undertow could they please upload it for me?

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

GUYS, DONT SPAM THIS THREAD. Please don't force me to ban people for spamming this thread.

What exactly is the definition of spam? The point of this thread is to talk about Tool and any band connected with them by a member. Yet, there have been numerous conversations about Dream Theater, Opeth, and Porcupine Tree in here. So, isn't that just as much spam as say a harmless little argument?

[Kurrpt]

Or you can just follow the simplest instructions and not double post.


.... or i could leave

[SonorKen]

What exactly is the definition of spam? The point of this thread is to talk about Tool and any band connected with them by a member. Yet, there have been numerous conversations about Dream Theater, Opeth, and Porcupine Tree in here. So, isn't that just as much spam as say a harmless little argument?
As long as the conversation is worthwhile its ok. But when ya spam up 2 pages worth of useless posts about being on the phone or silly crap like that, its spam.

Kurrptsenate last warning.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

As long as the conversation is worthwhile its ok. But when ya spam up 2 pages worth of useless posts about being on the phone or silly crap like that, its spam.

Kurrptsenate last warning.

Okay, I gotcha'. Sorry 'bout that.

[G_Mac07]

If anyone has Undertow could they please upload it for me?

Coming.

EDIT: Some cocksmoker is streaming off my computer on my network, so it'll take a while.

[Endless Obsession]

Coming.

EDIT: Some cocksmoker is streaming off my computer on my network, so it'll take a while.

No problem dude, I go to private school and all my public school friends already started so I just sit around basically all day.

[G_Mac07]

Sorry dude, but my laptop seemed to stop sending anything about half way through the upload. It's currently 5:00am here, so I'll upload it after a few hours sleep if nobody beats me to it.

[repcak]

:lol: that's funny. When i was 13, I understood that. :amaze: :lol:[/SIZE]

well, when you're a native english speaker, you will; but when you start learning english with 10yrs, you won't. [and spoken words are easier to understand, than sang words]

@kurrptsenate: pls, stop making these triple/double posts... thats exhausting

[Syncratic]

So, any new Tool news. Haven't posted in a few days.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Prince of Darkness- You're reffering to Necrosaurus, right? :lol:

Band Members

Maynard James Keenan-Vocals (1992-Present)
Adam Jones-Guitar (1992-Present)
Justin Chancellor-Bass Guitar (1995-Present)
Paul D'Amour-Bass Guitar (1992-1995)
Danny Carey (1992-Present)

Biography

Widely labled as 'Progressive Rock/Metal', Tool got their start in LA in 1992, with Maynard James Keenan at vocals, Adam Jones at guitar, Paul D'Amour at bass, and Danny Carey at percussion.

Maynard's real names is James Herbert Keenan. He grew up in Ravenna, Ohio, where his parents were both teachers. A dark bit of his past, his abuse at the hands of his stepfather, is prevelant in Tool's material. In high school, he was an outgoing individual, participating in many activities. Upon graduation, Keenan joined West Point Academy, which he attended for three years before moving to Los Angeles. This is also where he adopted the name 'Maynard'. In LA, Maynard was living next door to future bandmate Danny Carey.

Adam Jones grew up in Libertyville, Illinois, where he went to school with none other than Tom Morello, future member of Rage Against the Machine. Adam played the violin in his early years, switching to bass guitar for Tom in the band Electric Sheep. Adam also became interested in film. Instead of going to film school, Adam opted for art school instead. Later, he would work for Stan Winston's studio, creating special effects for films such as Jurassic Park and Terminator 2: Judgement Day. Adam would later be introduced to Maynard via Tom Morello.

Danny Carey was raised in Kansas, where he played the snare drum in the school band, before getting his first drum set at age 13. He passed up a basketball scholarship to go to music school (I belive, don't quote me on that). Danny also played the tabla under the guiding of master Aloke Dutta, who would later sit-in with Tool during live performances. Danny then moved to LA,and Adam and Maynard would audition band members, who often blew them off, in which case Danny would sit in.

Paul was raised in Spokane, Washington. He moved to LA in search of a career in film. He was introduced by Adam to the other members of Tool. During the recording of the record 'Ænima,' creative differences with the other members lead to Paul leaving the band.

Enter Justin Chancellor, whose band Peach was the supporting band on Tool's '93 Eurpean Tour. When Paul left, the band asked Justin to join. Peach had just broken up, so Chancellor jumped at the chance.

Never rushing themselves to make others happy, Tool have made the music they have wanted to make for over a decade. In 2000, Maynard joined Tool guitar techniction Billy Howerdel to form the band A Perfect Circle. Through legal troubles and side projects, Tool have never faltered in their quest to make great music.

Discography

Opiate (EP-1992)
Undertow (LP-1993)
Necrosaurus(LP-1995)
Ænima (LP-1996)
Salival (CD/DVD or VHS-2000)
Lateralus (LP-2001)

[Syncratic]

Thanks for reposting it, Jake.

I appreciate it....but why'd you do it?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Thanks for reposting it, Jake.

I appreciate it....but why'd you do it?

Read back a few pages; Prince of Darkness is convinced that Tool released something in between Undertow and Ænima, and that it's called Necrosaurus. He says he saw it in your writeup, so I reposted it.

[Syncratic]

I didn't put Necrocaurus in my write-up.

WTF?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

http://www.awesomoforums.tk Go look it up then. I just copy pasted it. :shrug:

[Syncratic]

I honestly do not remember putting that in. I don't know how it got there.

[LP|Stang]

omgomgomgomg

Tool r0x my b0xers!

[Syncratic]

omgomgomgomg

Tool r0x my b0xers!

No.

Your avatar looks like a douchebag who recently graduated from my school.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I've never heard of this rip. You'd think a band wouldn't be careless enough to rip a Tool riff and think to get away with it.

I know this is freaking old, but I might as well enlighten you all, since it went unanswered:

I'm not liking the term "rip" here. It's more of showing a sign of respect for Pink Floyd on Tool's part. The riff is from Part I of Shine on You Crazy Diamond, by Pink Floyd. I will be uploading the similair segments in a few minutes via YSI.

And hey you guy from Toolnavy- You weren't a bad poster when you first joined. Then you started spamming, and such. It'd be nice to have another worth while Tool fan around here, so you wanna clean up your act, and post with a wee bit more brain power? :p

Shine on You Crazy Diamond clip(copy paste link into your browser)

s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1WZXHG1A7LSTB0LMUJT6Q26X1N

The Grudge clip

s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1Q7NSB2PIUXHK39P3JCQZMZMUN

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I know this is freaking old, but I might as well enlighten you all, since it went unanswered:

I'm not liking the term "rip" here. It's more of showing a sign of respect for Pink Floyd on Tool's part. The riff is from Part I of Shine on You Crazy Diamond, by Pink Floyd. I will be uploading the similair segments in a few minutes via YSI.

And hey you guy from Toolnavy- You weren't a bad poster when you first joined. Then you started spamming, and such. It'd be nice to have another worth while Tool fan around here, so you wanna clean up your act, and post with a wee bit more brain power? :p

Shine on You Crazy Diamond clip(copy paste link into your browser)

s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1WZXHG1A7LSTB0LMUJT6Q26X1N

The Grudge clip

s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1Q7NSB2PIUXHK39P3JCQZMZMUN

Wow, I never noticed the similarities until now. It's the same few notes. I'd hardly call that a ripoff, it might not have even been intentional. Pretty cool find too. I always found a similarity between The Grudge and Yyz actually. The part where it's just the percussion doing the main ryhthm of the song seems similar to me to the beginning of Yyz. You know what I'm saying?

[Spiritofmosa]

No.

Your avatar looks like a douchebag who recently graduated from my school.
mynard what r you doing in musicianforums

[Darkness]

mynard what r you doing in musicianforums
He got bored with recording the new album ofcourse. This is his time pass. :thumb:

:rolleyes:

[Futuro]

the two tracks placed ontop of one another do not create dissonance. there are a few spots where the tempo "creates" the dissonance but thats it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Wow, I never noticed the similarities until now. It's the same few notes. I'd hardly call that a ripoff, it might not have even been intentional. Pretty cool find too. I always found a similarity between The Grudge and Yyz actually. The part where it's just the percussion doing the main ryhthm of the song seems similar to me to the beginning of Yyz. You know what I'm saying?

It's definitely on purpose. I mean, what are the chances that Tool, who have cited Pink Floyd as a huge influence, and SYOCD is proclaimed as one of their best songs. It'd be a crazy coincidence.

///

You know the glass shattering noice in YYZ? Listen to Hooker, and you'll hear it in there. :cool: Tool has also said they're big Rush fans.

[Futuro]

Listen to Hooker

first time thats ever happend :rolleyes: :p

i never heard the rush thing in "hooker" but i will listen now.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I'll listen for it next time in "Hooker..."

[Rothmans]

It's definitely on purpose. I mean, what are the chances that Tool, who have cited Pink Floyd as a huge influence, and SYOCD is proclaimed as one of their best songs. It'd be a crazy coincidence.

///

You know the glass shattering noice in YYZ? Listen to Hooker, and you'll hear it in there. :cool: Tool has also said they're big Rush fans.

Yeah on Danny's favourite album's of all time was one of rushes albums might I add I found it in dissectional :cool:

[G_Mac07]

Tool - Undertow (hxxp://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3HBUMSHZO50OK2XP6XCDYQ3LPZ)

just change the hxxp to yada yada yada

[deathmetal]

im a huge fan of undertow, 4 degrees, and prison sex

PRISON SEX KICKS ***!!!!!!!!!!

[Darkness]

For some reason I don't like 4 Degrees... does nothing for me. Undertows best are the first 4 and Flood. The rest isn't the best they've done, but still decent.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Four Degrees is awesome. The high point on Undertow happens during that song.

"Let meeeeeeeeeeeeee in"

[BlindWriting]

Maynard's vocals on Undertow were brilliant. I love the part in Flood, during the silence, when he goes, "I was wrong, this changes everything." Something about that is so great.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Yeah on Danny's favourite album's of all time was one of rushes albums might I add I found it in dissectional :cool:

I always knew he had such great musical taste.

*Is listening to 2112 right now...*

[Rothmans]

Flood is by far my favourite song on that album its amazing so is crawl away and that doesnt get the repsect it needs, same with undertow aswell though :/

[Darkness]

I like the part where hes like "Cleanse and purge me in the water!!".. thats sweet. 4 Degrees is ok, nice to listen to a slower song after the hearing the rest of the cd, but I donno.. it just doesn't appeal to me.

[Rothmans]

I went through a stage of preffering Undertow for ages then I slapped on Lateralus :cool:

[Darkness]

Lateralus is still my favorite. As much as I like Ænima, I think its missing something when compared to Lateralus... (yet everyone else thinks its the other way around..)

Lateralus stands as my favorite record of all time. :D

[Rothmans]

Same here everyone seems to love AEnima here but it pales in comparsion to Lateralus imo.

[Endless Obsession]

Lateralus > Ænima

[BlindWriting]

In my opinion, each Tool release got better. Hopefully the trend will continue with the new one.

[Rothmans]

Hopefully anyway, all this anticapation is pretty agravating at this point.

To be quite honest I am starting to get turned ott Tool heavily I cant remember the last time I played one of there albums let alone one of there songs. :/

[Huber]

In my opinion, each Tool release got better. Hopefully the trend will continue with the new one.

Yeah. That'd be nice. I don't expect something greater than Laterlus though. If I get to antsy about it being Lateralus 2.0 than when I listen to it first I'll think it's garbage, because like Lateralus it took some time to sink in.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

In my opinion, each Tool release got better. Hopefully the trend will continue with the new one.


My thoughts exactly.

[Darkness]

The first time I listened to Lateralus, it just clicked. I knew I loved them after The Grudge. I think the cds got better to.

[repcak]

Undertow (LP-1993)
Necrosaurus(LP-1995)
Ænima (LP-1996)

Can anyone explain whats the deal with the album 'Necrosaurus'? Is it a fake or does it exist?

[Spiritofmosa]

i like tool - H.

[Shadius]

Can anyone explain whats the deal with the album 'Necrosaurus'? Is it a fake or does it exist?

Just look at the name. I'd go with either:

1) Fake, a la fake albums in the Ænima booklet.

2) A possible unofficial bootleg, but it even almost sounds too bad for that.

Hopefully anyway, all this anticapation is pretty agravating at this point.

To be quite honest I am starting to get turned ott Tool heavily I cant remember the last time I played one of there albums let alone one of there songs. :/

Me too. Well, actually i'm listening to Undertow now, but this is the first time in ages. I think this will all change when their new album comes out though.

[Kurrpt]

i hoping this new CD is heavy as fuk

[Knifeboy]

Just look at the name. I'd go with either:

1) Fake, a la fake albums in the Ænima booklet.

2) A possible unofficial bootleg, but it even almost sounds too bad for that.



I'd go with 3. Fake as in, just something completely random written on a random message bord, by someone we don't know (apparently, since MJK doesn't remember writing it)... I hate how rumours get started so easily

[Kage]

i hoping this new CD is heavy as fuk
I hope it's not.

[Shadius]

I hope it's not.

I hope it has it's heavy moments, but I just want an excellent CD, and the whole thing being really really heavy wouldn't be an excellent CD for me.

[Kage]

I hope it has it's heavy moments, but I just want an excellent CD, and the whole thing being really really heavy wouldn't be an excellent CD for me.
That's what I was going for, but you articulated it better. :p

Actually, I wouldn't mind if it wasn't heavy at all. But it will be, because it's Tool.

[Kurrpt]

That's what I was going for, but you articulated it better. :p

Actually, I wouldn't mind if it wasn't heavy at all. But it will be, because it's Tool.


blasphemy :lol:

[Prince of Darkness]

Ha. i stand Corrected. There was a Necrosaurus. I didn't say it was real, but I did say MJK posted it in his write-up.

/proud

[repcak]

i expect a more calmer cd, like Aenima. Lateralus was (imo) heavier than Aenima.

in fact i don't mind. hey, it's tool! if it will be heavy or not, i'm sure it will be a excellent record.

[Prince of Darkness]

Lateralus has a lot of chilled(ish?) songs, but so did Aenema. But Aenema had more rough edge than Lateralus. Yeah. I do hope the new one has it's heavy moments, but not to heavy...I heard they're inspired by Mashuggah on this album? That could make it too heavy. But, yeah. It's Tool, and they allways seem to impress.

[repcak]

when they really got inspired by meshuggah, the next record can be really interesting!! even if that means that it will be a heavy one...

[Knifeboy]

I hope there's a song on there that's so heavy, my legs fall off

[Kurrpt]

I hope there's a song on there that's so heavy, my legs fall off


thats what im trying to say. Thank you for doing it first