Tool

[clearvision]

Sup thread I'm back.

I got AABC in my As levels..w00t...(that means i will be predicted straight A's for my uni application...:p)

American radio plays alot of tool...which i found kinda strange as the heaviest thing on english radio is the libertines and the likes :( They also seem to have an obsession with slipknot and Alice In Chains, it is impossible to flick the radio on for more that half an hour without hearing them. Well I make it sound like all radio is like this but i was only listening to the first rock station i found. Meh.

I can't be bothered in catching up with all the topics mentioned in the thread since i left, mainly because Ben has already informed me there has been no news.

GG Jake on overtaking my postcount while i was on hols :(

[Kurrpt]

sup fellas


:lol:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I will say that Schism is clearly about Christianity, although the song shows no objectivity to it whatsoever.

I would not say clearly. Obviously, we can have our own views of lyrics, and there's nothing wrong with that at all. However, to me, the lyrics on the surface are possibly about The Great Schism, but I believe it to be an analogy (am I using the right word there?) for a failed relationship. That way, you could look at it with either view and you'd think you're correct. However, why would there be a song on the album about Christianity? I guess this also depends on your views of the other songs too. You could say they are very spiritual lyrics on the album, or you could have a more "real" interpretation of them. For example, I've heard someone's view of The Patient is that it is about "living your life to the fullest, but to also be patient about the afterlife." What I get from the song is more general. I feel the song is just about having hope and optimism about "something." The lyrics don't really seem to mention anything specifically, it could be about a lot of things. You know what I'm saying?

[Spiritofmosa]

Schism]
I know the pieces fit cuz I watched them fall away
mildewed and smoldering, fundamental differing,
pure intention juxtaposed will set two lovers souls in motion
disintegrating as it goes testing our communication
the light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us so
we cannot see to reach an end crippling our communicatioooon.

I know the pieces fit cuz I watched them tumble down
no fault, none to blame it doesn't mean I don't desire to
point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over.
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communicatioooon.

The poetry that comes from the squaring off between,
And the circling is worth it.
Finding beauty in the dissonance.

There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away.
Mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting
I've done the the math enough to know the dangers of a second guessing
Doomed to crumble unless we grow, and strengthen our communicatioooon.

cold, cold, cold,
Cold silence haaaas
a tendency toooo
atrophy anyyyyy
sense of compassiooooon.

between supposed loverrrs
between supposed brotherrrrrs.

(I know the pieces fit. I know the pieces fiiit!


how has this got to do with christianity

[Kurrpt]

i think argueing about what the lyrics mean is completely pointless. What someone gets out of a peice of art is totally different than the person who read/looks at it next.

[ThePatient]

And that's exactly why I've never discussed the meaning of songs on here, about any band. Its like arguing over a favorite color.

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

In an interview with maynard and billy maynard told the interviewer that "i'm not necissaraly a christian,persay, but i think all those spiritual leaders had their point" so basically maynard isn't a christian but he lives by the words of jesus, buddah, allah, etc. he says he's a spiritual guy and he studies into religion and mythology so take whatever opinion from that that you want.

[Kurrpt]

And that's exactly why I've never discussed the meaning of songs on here, about any band. Its like arguing over a favorite color.

thanks you :D


someone posted their "idea" of what stinkfist was. They said it was anal fisting :lol:

i told them they should check out the lyrics again :thumb:


they were all upset and wanted to argue over it, and I explained how pointless that was.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

thanks you :D


someone posted their "idea" of what stinkfist was. They said it was anal fisting :lol:

i told them they should check out the lyrics again :thumb:


they were all upset and wanted to argue over it, and I explained how pointless that was.

:lol:

[clearvision]

thanks you :D


someone posted their "idea" of what stinkfist was. They said it was anal fisting :lol:

i told them they should check out the lyrics again :thumb:


they were all upset and wanted to argue over it, and I explained how pointless that was.

That argument was with me. It is clear that the song, taken literally is about anal fisting.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Schism]
I know the pieces fit cuz I watched them fall away
mildewed and smoldering, fundamental differing,
pure intention juxtaposed will set two lovers souls in motion
disintegrating as it goes testing our communication
the light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us so
we cannot see to reach an end crippling our communicatioooon.

I know the pieces fit cuz I watched them tumble down
no fault, none to blame it doesn't mean I don't desire to
point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over.
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communicatioooon.

The poetry that comes from the squaring off between,
And the circling is worth it.
Finding beauty in the dissonance.

There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away.
Mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting
I've done the the math enough to know the dangers of a second guessing
Doomed to crumble unless we grow, and strengthen our communicatioooon.

cold, cold, cold,
Cold silence haaaas
a tendency toooo
atrophy anyyyyy
sense of compassiooooon.

between supposed loverrrs
between supposed brotherrrrrs.

(I know the pieces fit. I know the pieces fiiit!


how has this got to do with christianity


1. The word Schism came around during "The Great Schism," which was the separation between the Catholic and Protestant churches(both are the main branches of Christianity, I may add)

"I know the peices fit, cause I watched them fall away" is a reference to a time when the two churches had no problem coexisting in the same world.

I'll try and explain it more thouroughly if you're not seeing it, but those are the two most obvious reasons.

[Kurrpt]

O SH!T..


this is what i was TRYING to get away from....


SOOOOOoooooo


we have any guitarists in here?

[Reywas]

Dr.Jake is an awesome guitar player.

[Kurrpt]

i havent heard him...

[clearvision]

O Shi' I just realised i missed out on ben's recordings...link?

[Kurrpt]

im posting a metroid recording on monday. Its the norfair dungeon music, sped up, and added some nice metal flair :lol:

[SugarCoatedSour]

The beauty of Tool's lyrics (and their complexity) is that they write seemingly deep vague lyrics which adds a certain level of mystery this in turn has you fanboys gabbing away in order to disect every single word Maynard says. Possibly the most clever and well thought out gimmick. No doubt Tool are a lot more than they seem. A clever bunch.

Tool doesnt have a particular meaning for every single song, their message is more universal. Tool is about getting you to think about things in your daily life. Tool's main message is that of personal independance, they urge you to live a self-sufficient life in which you make your choices. This especially apparent whenever Maynard does an interview, his opinions on today's world are clear. And I agree with him, the western hemisphere has become one big walmart.

[SugarCoatedSour]

O SH!T..


this is what i was TRYING to get away from....


SOOOOOoooooo


we have any guitarists in here?

I play guitar, but at the moment poorly and without any real method.

[Kurrpt]

do me a favor...

buy a metronome

and dont rush it :thumb:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Bobert- http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=361500

Nobuo>>- I'm not that great, but thanks. :p

SugarCoatedSour- Socialism is overrated.

[Kurrpt]

what is it Jake?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

That link is the Soundclick for this thread.

O SH!T..


this is what i was TRYING to get away from....

What, intelligence? :confused:

[Kurrpt]

That link is the Soundclick for this thread.


What, intelligence? :confused:


ah jesus, here we go....

yea Jake thats EXACTLY what i was going for :rolleyes:

i havent seen one discussion go without some pointless arguement. thats what im trying to get away from

I asked what the recording is about because i cant download at work. I wanted to know what it was, because when i leave in 5 hours, i might sign on and download that

[SugarCoatedSour]

Bobert- http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=361500

Nobuo>>- I'm not that great, but thanks. :p

SugarCoatedSour- Socialism is overrated.

I know...everything has its faults. But I'd prefer true freedom rather than what their giving you now. Seeing as how I live in Canada I've been exposed to much of the mass media mindf^!K but none of the moral bombardment. So I've actually gained an eye for the BullSh@t and can easily laugh at it. I truly don't know what kind of media American's have because I havent lived there for an extended period of time, but from what I can sense through communication you guys are stuck in pretty deep. The important thing is not to take a side or rebel but instead educate yourself, you have to become wise to their motives.

Slowly the government has been taking away your independance...making things easier through technology and other ****, it just complicates your life.
Sorry I hate to preach but neck deep in bu!lsh!t every time i turn on the tv.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah, some of the tracks aren't completed, but they all have guitars. Download Lateralus 2, as it has everything minus bass.

I saw that you lived in Lancaster County. I used to live there, about 10 or so years ago. Do you happen to know a girl named Stephanie? I don't know her last name, but she has a younger brother named Derrick. I think they're something like 15 and 17ish?

[Kurrpt]

Yeah, some of the tracks aren't completed, but they all have guitars. Download Lateralus 2, as it has everything minus bass.

I saw that you lived in Lancaster County. I used to live there, about 10 or so years ago. Do you happen to know a girl named Stephanie? I don't know her last name, but she has a younger brother named Derrick. I think they're something like 15 and 17ish?


hmm...

do you know where in lancaster they are at.

I lived in elizabethtown my whole life

[BassMasterMike88]

This is abit of topic, but this mourning i got in the car and turned on the radio to hear Trapts new song, i forgot the title, but it sounds like a complete rip off of Tool's Laterus or somthing. I don't know how long Trapts song has been playing though because i usslay dont bother with commerical radio

[clearvision]

This is abit of topic, but this mourning i got in the car and turned on the radio to hear Trapts new song, i forgot the title, but it sounds like a complete rip off of Tool's Laterus or somthing. I don't know how long Trapts song has been playing though because i usslay dont bother with commerical radio

I didn't really hear anything that reminded me of lateralus.

NP - Kanye west - Late Registration.

[Kurrpt]

kayne west is such a stuck up prick..

[clearvision]

kayne west is such a comical, musical genius..

123 :)

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Kayne West as a musician = Tight, credit given

Kayne West as a human being = WTF? Whats up with this guy?

[Kurrpt]

well, regardless to what he does musically, you ever hear that guy in an interview?


and i bought his first CD, so

[Kurrpt]

Kayne West as a musician = Tight, credit given

Kayne West as a human being = WTF? Whats up with this guy?


yea, plus his live performances are straight sh!t.

[clearvision]

He is so funny. I don't know if he does it as an act or it's just him, but he makes me laugh.

Some quotes...

'I drop the college dropout it sound like a best of'

'There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance, I think I tread it niceley'

He is brilliant. Music needs more people like him, arrogant, but funy-arrogant.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I saw him on the making of his latest video. He just doesnt seem all...there, if you get me. Plus he's growing himself quite the ego

[Kurrpt]

He is so funny. I don't know if he does it as an act or it's just him, but he makes me laugh.

Some quotes...

'I drop the college dropout it sound like a best of'

'There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance, I think I tread it niceley'

He is brilliant. Music needs more people like him, arrogant, but funy-arrogant.


well, i think as a person, he doesnt even respect the people that BROUGHT him up

[clearvision]

I saw him on the making of his latest video. He just doesnt seem all...there, if you get me. Plus he's growing himself quite the ego

I just have to think of the irony of us bieng in the tool thread, and maynard never seeing at all there.

I know he is over the top, but I just find it funny. And he is really good with music, though i think he turned common's album into a kanye west ft common album. Which i though was out of order.

well, i think as a person, he doesnt even respect the people that BROUGHT him up

He's always praising his Mama...:confused:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

But we know my views on MJK, so its not like im being hypocritical.

Best Kanye West monet, Beastie Boys vid for Triple Trouble, where he's interviewed at the end

[Kurrpt]

He's always praising his Mama...:confused:


NO, the people that brought him into the industry, like Jay Z, and a lot of other people

i saw an interview with him on MTV. i think hes prolly the biggest cocksucker in show biz right now. Ill still bump his beats though

[Syncratic]

hmm...

do you know where in lancaster they are at.

I lived in elizabethtown my whole life

Ever been in Patton?

[Killtacular]

Today I listened to Pushit from Salival for the first time in a while. I'd almost forgotten how orgasmic this song was. Good stuff.

[GiB]

Just started listening to em the other night so far they're awesome. My favorite song is The Grudge.

[Syncratic]

Just started listening to em the other night so far they're awesome. My favorite song is The Grudge.

What have you listened to so far?

Glad you like them, though! :thumb:

[Mr Herb]

Kanye West is on of the best rappers and is a brilliant producer, Ive never really seen him do stupid stuff outside of music.

[Syncratic]

I liked 'Diamonds of Sierra Leone,' that was a good song, and 'Gold Digger' wasn't bad, I'm interested in hearing other work from him.

I've never heard about him being a dick about anything.

[Mr Herb]

Listen to jesus walks or just buy hes other cd, the new one is pretty good to

[Shadius]

So... Porcupine Tree, how good is Deadwing! Why didn't I listen to these guys properly before now. Which of their other albums is their best?

[Rothmans]

Am I the only one who isnt into Porcupine Tree?


Yeah they are good enough but I just dont see the brilliance everyone else does I feel left out :/

I have In Absentia and Deadwing and I havnt listend to the newer on yet but the other I have and it didnt really wow me.

[Darkness]

They are rather good, mind you I've only heard Deadwing, but they seem to be a bit overrated by their fans.

[Dude3]

Am I the only one who isnt into Porcupine Tree?


Yeah they are good enough but I just dont see the brilliance everyone else does I feel left out :/

I have In Absentia and Deadwing and I havnt listend to the newer on yet but the other I have and it didnt really wow me.

I heard some of their stuff before, and didn't really find it that great. Although, I never really like anything the first time I hear it anyway. I'll give them another chance, when I get my computer fixed.

On another note, "Na na naaaaa na-na-na-na-na na na naa naa naa na na NA NA NA NA!"

[Darkness]

I love Steven Wilson as a backing vocalist, but as a lead... hes not that good IMO.

[Shadius]

Helpful as ever Med, In Absentia is next on my list. Cheers.

[Syncratic]

It's odd as I see no reason for Porcupine Tree not to have the same sort of success as Radiohead do at the moment really.

It must be a popularity issue. I might be the only on in my county to have even heard of PT. They just don't get the recognizition. Also, accesibility might be a factor.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Adam Jones just messaged me on myspace.


:amaze:

It was about the morse code thing too. :amaze:

:eek:

[Syncratic]

Adam Jones just messaged me on myspace.




It was about the morse code thing too.

Quit playin........that's not funny.

[Darkness]

Adam Jones just messaged me on myspace.


:amaze:

It was about the morse code thing too. :amaze:

:eek:
WHAT?!

[Rothmans]

Adam Jones just messaged me on myspace.


:amaze:

It was about the morse code thing too. :amaze:

:eek:



:lol:

I actually found this funny.

[Magicaltroll]

Adam Jones just messaged me on myspace.


:amaze:

It was about the morse code thing too. :amaze:

:eek:
...
Message.
Now.

[Dude3]

:eek:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You guys are going to be dissapointed. :upset: It's seriously nothing.

From: A D A M
Date: Aug 18, 2005 7:26 PM
Subject: ||||.|.||||
Body: jake
please leave positive comments
blairs one of my best friends
i hope your kidding
and its • • • - • • - - • - -
A

/pwned. :(

I don't even remember what i messaged him about, but I think I was conspicuosly hinting about how we knew what <insert morse code here> was about. :-/ I wasn't even negative, though! What should I say to him back?

Oh, and what do you make of the title?


EDIT: HOLY CRAP!!!!!! |•|•|•|-.•|•.-|-|-|-|

I took the morse code, and alternated placing the symbols from the title of his message, and I got that. :eek:
I doubt it's a conincidence that they match up..:eek:

[Syncratic]

What did he mean by typing out the morse code?

EDIT:

The newsletter is up.

[Rothmans]

You guys are going to be dissapointed. :upset: It's seriously nothing.



/pwned. :(

I don't even remember what i messaged him about, but I think I was conspicuosly hinting about how we knew what <insert morse code here> was about. :-/ I wasn't even negative, though! What should I say to him back?

Oh, and what do you make of the title?


Hey Adam messaged you that is good enough for me.

[Dude3]

Pwned by Adam Jones! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

omgomfsd;lkadfj;asdlkfj


THEY"RE ****ING OPPOSITES!

[Dude3]

woooooooooooooooooooah

[Magicaltroll]

I just messaged him about it.
I'm about to get pwned too.

:upset:

[BlindWriting]

Hmm.

[Syncratic]

Hey Guys, The Fracking August Newsletter Is Up, Go Look At It Now!!!!!!!!!

[Magicaltroll]

I knew that.
I want to hear L.K. so bad.

[Syncratic]

Hey posted about the 'radio song', and he dubbed it **, maybe the song is two letters long.

[BlindWriting]

I read it already.

As usual, no big revelations.

[something erotic]

I read it already.

As usual, no big revelations.

Sigh. Nothing big, as always.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Did you read MY post? Biggest Tool revelation in months, I reckon!!

[BlindWriting]

You just might be right about that.

[Rothmans]

Well if anyone interested I just done a Neurosis review

Souls At Zero (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=3367&genreid=15)

[Darkness]

That newsletter was alright, the picture of their board was awesome.

METAL X 4

[Magicaltroll]

What does opposite have to do with anything?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

There have been numerous rumors about the new album involving opposite pairs.

Plus, this rumor ties in with my Tool=Pagan theory, as opposites are considered sacred. :p

[something erotic]

Like the whole Light is to Dark as blah is to blah thing.

[BlindWriting]

Well I feel like I waited a long time for absolutely nothing.
That bit about the new Maynard vocals was awesome, but then they went onto say that they weren't using them. So nothing is learned.

Goddamnit.

[deadohiosky9]

Alright seeing as how Dr.Jackdestructo has gotten all this new Tool info and whatnot, i find it to be a good time to reveal a few things. Thirteenthstep and I were bored as hell during summer a month or two ago, and we had met the pervious year in the tool thread, etc. So I thought we'd prank some tool fans, just get them excited see what happens, though i truly doubted anyone would believe me if I just went in the forum after a year and was like I GOT NEW TOOL NEWS BLAH BLAH. Tool fans are smart. So i thought i'd pick up this Morse Code controversy, and see if i could somehow convince the people in this thread that it was a release date. yeah im an a.sshole i know, im sorry. bored kills. anyways. so i was talking to him, and that was when i made that post that i knew blair and had new info and to IM me. once i got some IMs i made up s.hit about album themes, liike light and dark, astronomy and whatnot. hell i don't even remember, its been a while. so Thirteenthstep made this ( i have no f.ucking idea how, it still puzzles the hell out of me) ***-**--*-- = original symbol
Take the first 6 characters, because generally in a date there are 6 characters, for example (09/25/05)

***-**
There are 5 stars altogether, each with 5 points.
The first 3 stars, if multiplied by their points (3 x 5) would be 15.
The second set of stars, then multiplied by their points (2 x 5) would be 10.
This adds up to the 25th, the day of the last quarters of the moon, but Sundays are generally not days for a CD to be released.
Therefore the line, which is one by one persay, would simply be 1 and when added to the others would be 26, Monday.


--*--
The second 5 characters are the month.
Once again the star rule applies, 1 star multiplied by its 5 points would be 5.
When added to the four lines, this makes the ninth month, September, whose day the 25th is the last quarter of the moon.

Blair also affirmed this date, and added he could not make the information obvious at all to his fans, therefore he made it almost impossible, especially by putting the day before the month.


yeah so all that was made up. sorry guys. but it just worked sooo well. and then the whole the next day being national tool day, and the MJK website update, and the updates and toolband and s.hit. it was beginning to get creepy. because all this wasj ust made up, none of it is true. its kind of brilliant in a way, but mean/as.sholeish as well. yeah sorry guys. i bet i'll get banned or some s.hit. so yeah i don't really know blair, and sept. 25th is not a release date, its just a random date i pulled out of my a.ss, that Thirteenthstep fit into the morse code amazingly. also i had told everyone not to tell, so if you look back you'll see that it was Thirteenthstep who spilled the beans, that was planned. it was intended for him to "accidentally" say everything i told him, so as to cause chaos/discussion/suspicion or whatever in the thread. so yeah. i guess we've had out fun. sorry to disappoint, i really am. so yeah thats the truth. img onna get flamed for this.

[Darkness]

That vocal style thing they spoke of sounded weird... I want at least SOME classic Maynard... but yeah they said their not using em anyway.

[Dude3]

****

[BlindWriting]

...
My oh my.

[Magicaltroll]

Alright seeing as how Dr.Jackdestructo has gotten all this new Tool info and whatnot, i find it to be a good time to reveal a few things. Thirteenthstep and I were bored as hell during summer a month or two ago, and we had met the pervious year in the tool thread, etc. So I thought we'd prank some tool fans, just get them excited see what happens, though i truly doubted anyone would believe me if I just went in the forum after a year and was like I GOT NEW TOOL NEWS BLAH BLAH. Tool fans are smart. So i thought i'd pick up this Morse Code controversy, and see if i could somehow convince the people in this thread that it was a release date. yeah im an a.sshole i know, im sorry. bored kills. anyways. so i was talking to him, and that was when i made that post that i knew blair and had new info and to IM me. once i got some IMs i made up s.hit about album themes, liike light and dark, astronomy and whatnot. hell i don't even remember, its been a while. so Thirteenthstep made this ( i have no f.ucking idea how, it still puzzles the hell out of me) ***-**--*-- = original symbol
Take the first 6 characters, because generally in a date there are 6 characters, for example (09/25/05)

***-**
There are 5 stars altogether, each with 5 points.
The first 3 stars, if multiplied by their points (3 x 5) would be 15.
The second set of stars, then multiplied by their points (2 x 5) would be 10.
This adds up to the 25th, the day of the last quarters of the moon, but Sundays are generally not days for a CD to be released.
Therefore the line, which is one by one persay, would simply be 1 and when added to the others would be 26, Monday.


--*--
The second 5 characters are the month.
Once again the star rule applies, 1 star multiplied by its 5 points would be 5.
When added to the four lines, this makes the ninth month, September, whose day the 25th is the last quarter of the moon.

Blair also affirmed this date, and added he could not make the information obvious at all to his fans, therefore he made it almost impossible, especially by putting the day before the month.


yeah so all that was made up. sorry guys. but it just worked sooo well. and then the whole the next day being national tool day, and the MJK website update, and the updates and toolband and s.hit. it was beginning to get creepy. because all this wasj ust made up, none of it is true. its kind of brilliant in a way, but mean/as.sholeish as well. yeah sorry guys. i bet i'll get banned or some s.hit. so yeah i don't really know blair, and sept. 25th is not a release date, its just a random date i pulled out of my a.ss, that Thirteenthstep fit into the morse code amazingly. also i had told everyone not to tell, so if you look back you'll see that it was Thirteenthstep who spilled the beans, that was planned. it was intended for him to "accidentally" say everything i told him, so as to cause chaos/discussion/suspicion or whatever in the thread. so yeah. i guess we've had out fun. sorry to disappoint, i really am. so yeah thats the truth. img onna get flamed for this.
Dick.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Can someone link/copy paste the newsletter? I can never find this stuff. :upset:


DOS9- Utterly brilliant.

[Dude3]

You do understand we are going to unleash the almighty power of Plexi on you, as we are the Apocalypse Dudes.

[Rothmans]

Alright seeing as how Dr.Jackdestructo has gotten all this new Tool info and whatnot, i find it to be a good time to reveal a few things. Thirteenthstep and I were bored as hell during summer a month or two ago, and we had met the pervious year in the tool thread, etc. So I thought we'd prank some tool fans, just get them excited see what happens, though i truly doubted anyone would believe me if I just went in the forum after a year and was like I GOT NEW TOOL NEWS BLAH BLAH. Tool fans are smart. So i thought i'd pick up this Morse Code controversy, and see if i could somehow convince the people in this thread that it was a release date. yeah im an a.sshole i know, im sorry. bored kills. anyways. so i was talking to him, and that was when i made that post that i knew blair and had new info and to IM me. once i got some IMs i made up s.hit about album themes, liike light and dark, astronomy and whatnot. hell i don't even remember, its been a while. so Thirteenthstep made this ( i have no f.ucking idea how, it still puzzles the hell out of me) ***-**--*-- = original symbol
Take the first 6 characters, because generally in a date there are 6 characters, for example (09/25/05)

***-**
There are 5 stars altogether, each with 5 points.
The first 3 stars, if multiplied by their points (3 x 5) would be 15.
The second set of stars, then multiplied by their points (2 x 5) would be 10.
This adds up to the 25th, the day of the last quarters of the moon, but Sundays are generally not days for a CD to be released.
Therefore the line, which is one by one persay, would simply be 1 and when added to the others would be 26, Monday.


--*--
The second 5 characters are the month.
Once again the star rule applies, 1 star multiplied by its 5 points would be 5.
When added to the four lines, this makes the ninth month, September, whose day the 25th is the last quarter of the moon.

Blair also affirmed this date, and added he could not make the information obvious at all to his fans, therefore he made it almost impossible, especially by putting the day before the month.


yeah so all that was made up. sorry guys. but it just worked sooo well. and then the whole the next day being national tool day, and the MJK website update, and the updates and toolband and s.hit. it was beginning to get creepy. because all this wasj ust made up, none of it is true. its kind of brilliant in a way, but mean/as.sholeish as well. yeah sorry guys. i bet i'll get banned or some s.hit. so yeah i don't really know blair, and sept. 25th is not a release date, its just a random date i pulled out of my a.ss, that Thirteenthstep fit into the morse code amazingly. also i had told everyone not to tell, so if you look back you'll see that it was Thirteenthstep who spilled the beans, that was planned. it was intended for him to "accidentally" say everything i told him, so as to cause chaos/discussion/suspicion or whatever in the thread. so yeah. i guess we've had out fun. sorry to disappoint, i really am. so yeah thats the truth. img onna get flamed for this.


Seriously that is just being a dickhead.

[Darkness]

...Who is that guy? I don't think I've seen him before...

[BlindWriting]

Can someone link/copy paste the newsletter? I can never find this stuff. :upset:
When you get onto the main Tool page, click the "News" button, even though you're already there, and you will see options for "News", "Newsletter", and "15 Mintutes".

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Dudes, dudes, duuuudes. Chill out. Think how brilliant this really is. I mean, you're all just jealous you had thought it up, right?

...

Yeah, you are. :lol:

[Magicaltroll]

You do understand we are going to unleash the almighty power of Plexi on you, as we are the Apocalypse Dudes.
No... Not plex!!!

...
Well, maybe it's ok.

[deadohiosky9]

Can someone link/copy paste the newsletter? I can never find this stuff. :upset:


DOS9- Utterly brilliant.

haha thanks. and to the dude who said hed never seen me before, i posted in the verrry early days of this thread. and i dont post in R and M, i post in hardcore/emo. thats probably why you haven't seen me.

[Darkness]

Oh ok.


Strange... a Tool fan whos into emo...

[deadohiosky9]

Oh ok.


Strange... a Tool fan whos into emo...

haha i guess so. thirteenthstep is into emo too. im surprised i dont meet many tool fans into emo, because i find tool to be pretty emotional.

[Darkness]

Maybe in the older days, but I find Lateralus is more spiritual, rather then Maynard just being angry.

[deadohiosky9]

I agree, Laterlaus is more spiritual, where as Aenema was probably the more emotional album.

[Lateralias]

Wow we are just fed more Blairesque info.... I'm growing impatient but I know the wait must be worth it.

[ThirteenthStep]

helllllo. i guess you all know about the prank, i was in on it with deadohiosky. sorry if u guys are mad about it, but it was pretty **** funny i have to say. this wasnt like to make fun of u guys, it was mainly cause we were bored out of our minds. so yeah, i hope u guys enjoyed that. or not. it was all in good fun. and tool still kicks as.s

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

/me emails Blair

Here I was, innocently messaging the beloved Adam Jones through myspace, trying to convince him that I knew stuff I shouldn't, and here's the response I got back from him:

From: A D A M
Date: Aug 18, 2005 7:26 PM
Subject: ||||.|.||||
Body: jake
please leave positive comments
blairs one of my best friends
i hope your kidding
and its • • • - • • - - • - -
A

I saw the subject, and I thought "hmm, I wonder what that is?"

Then, luckily for myself, Adam included the original series of dots and dashes. I noticed how he also included spaces between each character, and somehow, my mind made the connection that there are an equal number of characters in each series. So, I intertwined them, and got this :

|•|•|•|-.•|•.-|-|-|-|

I suppose you could place the dot in front of the vertical line, but either way, the series is an exact opposite, which sort of carries along with these rumors I've been hearing about Maynard writing lyrics about light and dark, and other opposite pairs.

The time is right. Every avvid Tool fan is dying to know what exactly is up with this odd assortment of symbols, and I would like you to tell us exactly what is going on here. If anything, please email me back with something about sausagues, just so I know this link isn't some cheap gimmick.

Without Wax,

Jake

(I hope you're as big of a Dan Brown fan as I expect you to be)

[Rothmans]

Ah I will admit I would of loved to of made something like that, that is brilliant and really well done but still I wouldnt dare torture a very eager fan if someone came out with that with Neurosis god...

[Rothmans]

/me emails Blair


Actually Blair complains in one of his secret places about how Dan Brown ripped off another book I can find it for you if you want?

[Spiritofmosa]

wooohooo the mjk site finally works..
a haiku for all my friends
Nude Family Act
Takes a Bow Covered With Pooh
The Aristocrats

thats it?
i dont understand

[Rothmans]

wooohooo the mjk site finally works


Not cool.

[Lateralias]

It has been like that for awhile actually.

[BlindWriting]

It's a reference to the documentary The Aristocrats.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Actually Blair complains in one of his secret places about how Dan Brown ripped off another book I can find it for you if you want?

Dammit. I figured since The Davinci Code was on Tool's booklist, Blair would have to like his books. :upset:

Oh well. :shrug:

[Rothmans]

Dammit. I figured since The Davinci Code was on Tool's booklist, Blair would have to like his books. :upset:

Oh well. :shrug:


Still your the man of the hour for me Adam messaged you goddammit!!!

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Wow. Good for Blair...The Davinci Code was an overrated, poorly written piece of crap.

[Mr Herb]

Justin uses fernandez basses. . like I do :) :cool:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Do you have one of those portable ones, with effects, amp, etc.. built directly in? Those look extremely cool, although I've never heard one played, so they could sound cheap.

[Mr Herb]

waT? I have a fernandez starters kit,its very good

[Moses]

Wow, Jake that's awesome. Yes, DIOSKY9 that was very ******* like of you but props on fooling everyone.

I haven't been on alot since my girlfriend just came back from a month and a half absence.

/cues skeptics like Clearvision to come out and say "I told you so".

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Yes, DIOSKY9 that was very ******* like of you but props on fooling everyone.

Weren't there a lot of skeptics? Anyone who comes on a message board will bullsh!t you.

This guy just had a lot of time on his hands.

"I have nothing to contribute, so I'll just baffle a bunch of idiots with some bullsh!t!"

Yay! Good for you. You good at internet! lOL!!11

[InChains]

i got lateralus. it was pretty cool, ill have to listen to it again, didnt match my expectations since everyone in the R&M forum loooves Tool.

seemed like a lot of the songs were just dragged on, but a pretty rockin album for the most part. maynard's voice is too weak and sad at times, but it gives a darkness to the album, which is cool i guess. not a a very powerful voice tho, even on that huge scream in grudge, hes got the range but not the height if you know what i mean.

album is too long for me to really enjoy on a daily basis, average length of the song has got to be like 7 1/2minutes?, not counting those pointless 1minuters. but a pretty solid album, which one should i get next?

[deadohiosky9]

i got lateralus. it was pretty cool, ill have to listen to it again, didnt match my expectations since everyone in the R&M forum loooves Tool.

seemed like a lot of the songs were just dragged on, but a pretty rockin album for the most part. maynard's voice is too weak and sad at times, but it gives a darkness to the album, which is cool i guess. not a a very powerful voice tho, even on that huge scream in grudge, hes got the range but not the height if you know what i mean.

album is too long for me to really enjoy on a daily basis, average length of the song has got to be like 7 1/2minutes?, not counting those pointless 1minuters. but a pretty solid album, which one should i get next?

get Aenema.

[Huber]

i got lateralus. it was pretty cool, ill have to listen to it again, didnt match my expectations since everyone in the R&M forum loooves Tool.

seemed like a lot of the songs were just dragged on, but a pretty rockin album for the most part. maynard's voice is too weak and sad at times, but it gives a darkness to the album, which is cool i guess. not a a very powerful voice tho, even on that huge scream in grudge, hes got the range but not the height if you know what i mean.

album is too long for me to really enjoy on a daily basis, average length of the song has got to be like 7 1/2minutes?, not counting those pointless 1minuters. but a pretty solid album, which one should i get next?

It'll grow on you. I didn't like the album much at all when I first got it.

[Reflection]

i got lateralus. it was pretty cool, ill have to listen to it again, didnt match my expectations since everyone in the R&M forum loooves Tool.

seemed like a lot of the songs were just dragged on, but a pretty rockin album for the most part. maynard's voice is too weak and sad at times, but it gives a darkness to the album, which is cool i guess. not a a very powerful voice tho, even on that huge scream in grudge, hes got the range but not the height if you know what i mean.

album is too long for me to really enjoy on a daily basis, average length of the song has got to be like 7 1/2minutes?, not counting those pointless 1minuters. but a pretty solid album, which one should i get next?

Go for Aenima

[Rounder]

Go for Aenima

yes. The best introduction to Tool is Aenima. In fact, it will make you appreciate Lateralus in a new way. Trust us dude, get Aenima.

[Shadius]

|•|•|•|-.•|•.-|-|-|-|


Uh, arn't you missing the dot on the right there? That would make it not opposites at all.

Surely it should be |•|•|•|-.•|•.-|-|•|-|

And thats missing off one of the -'s anyway.

[clearvision]

Weren't there a lot of skeptics? Anyone who comes on a message board will bullsh!t you.


Me and Ben will now take this time to bow.

[1One1]

In regards to the bloke who wasn't fond of Lateralus:

As everybody says: It grows on you. Have a look into the lyrics too because when you start to get some of them, it all becomes a much more interesting listen.

[G_Mac07]

yes. The best introduction to Tool is Aenima. In fact, it will make you appreciate Lateralus in a new way. Trust us dude, get Aenima.

It took Lateralus to make me truly appreciate Aenima. When I first got it, I loved Stinkfist and Aenema, but the rest of the album I thought was kind of average. After Lateralus blew me away, I began to appreciate songs like Pushit, Eulogy, H. and Third Eye a whole lot more. The 'epic' nature of the songs on Lateralus is really what made Tool what they are for me.

[Petary791]

Justin uses fernandez basses. . like I do :) :cool:

Mr Herb, he plays Wals.

[Dude3]

Hey guys. Ohio Sky and 13th step, I forgive you. It was pretty friken funny.

I might be going to the mall today, and I want to pick up a Pelican cd(assuming they have them). I'm having a tough time deciding which one to get. I've been leaning on their new one, but I've heard Autralasia is better. What do you suggest I pick up by them?

Or maybe I'll pick up an Isis cd. Dang, what Isis cd shall I get? I'm thinking Panopticon. Is that the best choice?

[Syncratic]

I believe that Ænima was an album that showed a lot of emotion, also it showed where the band stands on a lot of issues.

Lateralus is mostly spiritual and epic. End of story.

NP: Willie the Pimp-Frank Zappa featuring Captain Beefheart.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Best newsletter update ever. That song structure board is awesome

And :lol: at Jake getting Adam Jones'd

[Darkness]

This is random, and off topic...


I JUST GOT AUDIOSLAVE TICKETS!!!:D

[Kage]

Hey guys. Ohio Sky and 13th step, I forgive you. It was pretty friken funny.

I might be going to the mall today, and I want to pick up a Pelican cd(assuming they have them). I'm having a tough time deciding which one to get. I've been leaning on their new one, but I've heard Autralasia is better. What do you suggest I pick up by them?

Or maybe I'll pick up an Isis cd. Dang, what Isis cd shall I get? I'm thinking Panopticon. Is that the best choice?
Any Pelican CD you get is a good choice. They're both amazing in different, yet similar ways. For Isis, I recommend Oceanic.

I seemed to have missed a lot in this thread.

/goes back several pages to catch up

[Magicaltroll]

Isis-Oceanic is great.

Hey everyone, go check out my new OMGWAGB thread :D

[Arrakakaka]

Hey guys. Ohio Sky and 13th step, I forgive you. It was pretty friken funny.

I might be going to the mall today, and I want to pick up a Pelican cd(assuming they have them). I'm having a tough time deciding which one to get. I've been leaning on their new one, but I've heard Autralasia is better. What do you suggest I pick up by them?

Or maybe I'll pick up an Isis cd. Dang, what Isis cd shall I get? I'm thinking Panopticon. Is that the best choice?
Pelican's new one is a more atmospheric approach, but all of their stuff is different.

Same with Isis. I prefer the new one, but all of their stuff is different. It's a hard choice.

[Turbonegro]

ok i havent read any of this thread but instead of making a new thread and getting flamed i was wondering if anyone knew when the new tool album will be released in the UK, it would be great help :).

[Darkness]

Next week.

[Arrakakaka]

ok i havent read any of this thread but instead of making a new thread and getting flamed i was wondering if anyone knew when the new tool album will be released in the UK, it would be great help :).
We don't even know when it's going to be released in the US :lol:

Or is it just me?

[Arrakakaka]

Next week.
We could only wish.

[Turbonegro]

Next week.

Thank you :thumb:

[Huber]

We don't even know when it's going to be released in the US :lol:

Or is it just me?

Nope, I doubt Tool knows it's so **** secret.

[Darkness]

Thank you :thumb:
Sorry dude that was a joke. :lol:

[Syncratic]

Nope, I doubt Tool knows it's so **** secret.

But, by some unknown reason, Blair does.........

It's probably true.....

[Magicaltroll]

no im sorry
here's a hint
you cant please anybody...
. . . -
. . - -
. - -


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Brian
Date: Aug 26, 2005 8:49 PM

Well, I just found out that that whole code thing that I included in the last message was all bull****. Made up by some fan who had way too much time on his hands.

Sorry about that, I was really curious, and now that I know that it's all bull, disregard that whole bit.

But I would still love it if you answered the other questions in that last message I sent you.

Again, sorry.


------------------------------------------------------------
Straight from Adam's... fingers.
Again, OMGZZZ opposites.

[Turbonegro]

Sorry dude that was a joke. :lol:

:upset: i was happy then :evil:

[Darkness]

:upset: i was happy then :evil:
Sorry. :upset:

[Turbonegro]

Sorry. :upset:


:p its ok, so does noone actually know when the new albums out?

[Darkness]

Noone knows, yeah.

[Arrakakaka]

:p its ok, so does noone actually know when the new albums out?
Probably late this year. Estimated.

[repcak]

is it really that important when the album is coming out? for me it doesn't matter... its tool! when its released its released

[Darkness]

Its just... We've been waiting so long...

[Huber]

is it really that important when the album is coming out? for me it doesn't matter... its tool! when its released its released

Knowing when an album comes out and anticipating up until that day and getting it right away and taking it in for the first time is a great experience. Knowing when it's out is a pretty big deal.

[Syncratic]

At least we have some discussion going on.

Earlier this week was slow.

Ahh.....school Monday, but I don't care.

[Huber]

I start Monday too. I don't care though, all my classes are super easy this year except two.

[Turbonegro]

i go back school on the 6th, nile are playing on the 5th and opeth are playing on the 7th :D its going to be great

[Huber]

Yeah, there are some awesome concerts this fall. Cryptopsy, Nile, Meshuggah, Children of Bodom. It'll give me some fun for first semester.

[Darkness]

Nile is awesome... actually all the bands you guys mentioned are awesome... you guys are really lucky. Cryptopsy is coming here but I can't make it, and the only other good band thats coming is Audioslave, which I am going to.

[Syncratic]

My birthday is the 5th (Labor Day this year, I'm off of school :awesome:).

I'm not worried about school, I'm actually really intelligent.

[Futuro]

Knowing when an album comes out and anticipating up until that day and getting it right away and taking it in for the first time is a great experience. Knowing when it's out is a pretty big deal. TRUE THAT!!!! i remember getting lateralus from a store the first day it came out, i had been listening to aenima from tool for about 2 years, i was getting so excited about them releasing new material, as soon as school ended i ran my fatass up to circuit city with my walkman, i bought it, immediatly threw into cd player!

that is my most memorable moment of tool (it was also the most fun i ever had WALKING back ;) )

/starts to cry because this moment will come again VERY soon :)

[Turbonegro]

Yeah, there are some awesome concerts this fall. Cryptopsy, Nile, Meshuggah, Children of Bodom. It'll give me some fun for first semester.

take it you dont live in the UK? lol

[Darkness]

I can't wait for that...

What were your first impressions of Lateralus when you first listened on the way back?

[something erotic]

Nine Inch Nails November 8th...I go back on Tuesday :D

[Turbonegro]

Lateralus is my favorite album by tool its one of my favorite albums anyway. The only thing i dont like about tool is songs like ions off of aniema. Im not into all different wierd sounds they boar me

[Huber]

I like Ions. Listening to it before Third Eye kinda makes it better for me.

Nine Inch Nails November 8th...I go back on Tuesday :D

:eek:

I hadn't looked at the dates for NIN yet, and they're comin' up close! I gotta make my decision on those quick.

[Turbonegro]

This is off of the topic but what is isis like, i know there death metal but can you give me more of a decripition on them... like bands like them?

[Futuro]

What were your first impressions of Lateralus when you first listened on the way back? :) happiest kid in the world :) it was a different feeling back then when i had it because i was young, didnt really know what music was about.

I actually wish i could go back and just be a listener to music, instead of dissecting everything. I felt there music as a movement instead of "oh lets see what he means by **** L. ron hubbard." i guess if it keeps you busy then sure its fine, but i would rather be able to listen to it, then drawing fine lines about it. my mentality has changed from a listeners point of view. back then i wanted to know how to do all dannys drum grooves, adams guitar parts, justins bass lines ETC. now i wish i didnt know how to play them.... i dunno, maybe its just me

[Huber]

This is off of the topic but what is isis like, i know there death metal but can you give me more of a decripition on them... like bands like them?

Not Death Metal.

Post-metal/Sludge metal that kinda stuff. Nice, slow moving, chugging guitar riffs and stuff like that. Great band.

[Turbonegro]

Not Death Metal.

Post-metal/Sludge metal that kinda stuff. Nice, slow moving, chugging guitar riffs and stuff like that. Great band.

not really what i listen to but do u know any links with samples

[deadohiosky9]

my friend just told me that he went in traget and the new tool album was there, untitled, and he also says he has it on vinyl. which is highly ridiculous. he also refuses to send it to me, and says the bill hicks speech in the beginning is awesome. i call bulls.hit on this. anyone else have an untitled tool CD at target? lmao.

[Darkness]

lmao.. thats the funniest thing I've heard T00L related in a while.

[Txus]

my friend just told me that he went in traget and the new tool album was there, untitled, and he also says he has it on vinyl. which is highly ridiculous. he also refuses to send it to me, and says the bill hicks speech in the beginning is awesome. i call bulls.hit on this. anyone else have an untitled tool CD at target? lmao.
That's Bullshit man!

[Kage]

OMFG!!!!

/runs to Target

[Dude3]

That would be cool though. If Tool just released their album unnoticingly.

[chongi]

i work at target, yeah we've had it for a month now ;)

yeah, i've been lurking for awhile, figured i'd finally post, so hi

and also, for isis, they have songs on their site: http://www.sgnl05.com/# and panopticon is totally the way to go

[Magicaltroll]

i work at target, yeah we've had it for a month now ;)

yeah, i've been lurking for awhile, figured i'd finally post, so hi

and also, for isis, they have songs on their site: http://www.sgnl05.com/# and panopticon is totally the way to go
Don't mess with us like that...

[deadohiosky9]

That's Bullshit man!

yes it is. anyways, i just messaged adam on myspace telling him about the joke.

[clearvision]

DeadOhioSky...nothing you say will ever be taking seriously again.

You messed up the prank too, getting people to email you was stupid. IM, fine. Email, stupid.

[Dude3]

I think we should get Adam Jones to join the forums. "That's the ticket!".

Yay me. I just got an In Flames, Common Rider, and Suicide Machines album from Amazon. Oh the joy of taking the wrappers off cd cases.

[deadohiosky9]

haha i actually have no clue why i asked people to email me. wait...oh yes. it was because we hadn't a clue on what to say, and thirteenthstep hadn't come up with that morse code stuff yet, so we needed to buy time.

[Futuro]

DeadOhioSky...nothing you say will ever be taking seriously again.
hands asshole king crown to ohio ;)

[Kage]

I just watched an awesome video of Third Eye live. With the lighting, video, and intense performance, it was amazing to watch. I'll be impressed if Tool come up with a song half that good for the new album.

[Darkness]

Yeah, that was a pretty stupid thing to do out of bordom. Couldn't you read a book or something?

[BlindWriting]

I just watched an awesome video of Third Eye live. With the lighting, video, and intense performance, it was amazing to watch. I'll be impressed if Tool come up with a song half that good for the new album.
I don't know, I kind of get the feeling that, while the new album may or may not be their best ever, it just might contain a few of their best. I'm hopeful.

[Darkness]

I think the song Lataralus beats the crap out of Third Eye... I just find it better. Third Eye has its moments of brilliance... but Lateralus is 9:24 min of brilliance.

[BlindWriting]

yes it is. anyways, i just messaged adam on myspace telling him about the joke.
If you get an interesting enough answer from him you just might redeem yourself for your forum crimes.



I think the song Lataralus beats the crap out of Third Eye... I just find it better. Third Eye has its moments of brilliance... but Lateralus is 9:24 min of brilliance.
Lateralus is probably my favorite Tool song. I think I mentioned about how in the last school year, I did a report on that song for Music History class.

[deadohiosky9]

Yeah, that was a pretty stupid thing to do out of bordom. Couldn't you read a book or something?

haha, i actually did read some books over summer. and it didn't take that much time, it took maybe 20 mins for all the ims, and just the ocassional post in this thread.

and to the dude who saw Third Eye live, does Maynard repeat "pyring open my third eye' like in the recording? i've always wondered if he could do that live.

[Prince of Darkness]

and to the dude who saw Third Eye live, does Maynard repeat "pyring open my third eye' like in the recording? i've always wondered if he could do that live.

On Salival he repeats it 4 times, not 10 like on the album.
But it still rocks

[deadohiosky9]

ah yes thats true about salival. still awesome though. also the other day i was thinking about tool's lyrics, and i don't think maynard's lyrics were very impressive during Opiate and Undertow, but i think he got a lot better during Aenema, and reallly got good on Lateralus. Like in the song Lateralus, and Reflection, those lyrics really stand out on the album to me.

[Prince of Darkness]

ah yes thats true about salival. still awesome though. also the other day i was thinking about tool's lyrics, and i don't think maynard's lyrics were very impressive during Opiate and Undertow, but i think he got a lot better during Aenema, and reallly got good on Lateralus. Like in the song Lateralus, and Reflection, those lyrics really stand out on the album to me.

...yeah. He did improve over the years.... and guess what he could be like the new album?!!! :thumb: :rolleyes:

/remembers that there might not be a new album, ever. :upset:


BTW: Is this old news?Dunno, but check the Toolband site.Photo's of recording...If it's old news. shame on me.

[deadohiosky9]

Adam has posted recording photos on his myspace, so its not old news. so there will definitely be a new album. the lyrics will be amazing.

[Prince of Darkness]

can you post the link to adam's my space plz

[Kage]

I think the song Lataralus beats the crap out of Third Eye... I just find it better. Third Eye has its moments of brilliance... but Lateralus is 9:24 min of brilliance.
Those are my two favorite Tool songs, so the line gets blured anyway. I love the journey that Third Eye is...it's so intense and dark, whereas Lateralus is more an out-of-body kind of experience.

[Sebek]

The singer from my old band named one of his kids Maynard.

[deadohiosky9]

can you post the link to adam's my space plz

Adam's Myspace (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=20913840&Mytoken=20050827144829)

[clearvision]

haha i actually have no clue why i asked people to email me. wait...oh yes. it was because we hadn't a clue on what to say, and thirteenthstep hadn't come up with that morse code stuff yet, so we needed to buy time.

Haha, as soon as you told me i worked out the errors in the logic you were saying it...you should have waited.

[deadohiosky9]

haha ****. you were tough though. i think you and AJIG were the only ones who didn't buy this.

[Darkness]

Those are my two favorite Tool songs, so the line gets blured anyway. I love the journey that Third Eye is...it's so intense and dark, whereas Lateralus is more an out-of-body kind of experience.
Indeed Third Eye is quite the experience. I like the out of body state all the songs on Lateralus put me through though, falling asleep to that album is incredible. (me and my bass player did it the other day... yes, we cheated and listened to Tool :p)

[Darkness]

haha ****. you were tough though. i think you and AJIG were the only ones who didn't buy this.
I never really bought it myself, but as time went by I started to believe a little bit... It just seemed to early, speically since they said something about spring of 2006.

[Futuro]

haha ****. you were tough though. i think you and AJIG were the only ones who didn't buy this. i was the guy who AIMd you saying you are full of **** :wave:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Those are my two favorite Tool songs, so the line gets blured anyway. I love the journey that Third Eye is...it's so intense and dark, whereas Lateralus is more an out-of-body kind of experience.

They're probably my two favorites. If I had to pick a third, it would probably be 46&2. I find it kind of interesting that those three songs are all about (vaguely so) out of body experieinces. In Lateralus, it's about astral projection, 46&2 sounds like it could be about transcending, and Third Eye is kind of the catch all OBE. :cool:


I stopped beleiving after you said that you couldn't send me the email because you deleted it. I would have framed the ****ing thing. :lol:

[deadohiosky9]

i was the guy who AIMd you saying you are full of **** :wave:

ohhh yes. congrats. you didn't buy it either.

[Arrakakaka]

How old is Maynard? :lol:

[Kage]

Wait, WHAT are we talking about here?

EDIT: ooohh, I just came across his "confession" of making up that symbol release date thing. Can I add to the record that I never believed it for a second?

[Arrakakaka]

Fgsfds.

[Magicaltroll]

I believed it.
:upset:

[clearvision]

Wait, WHAT are we talking about here?

EDIT: ooohh, I just came across his "confession" of making up that symbol release date thing. Can I add to the record that I never believed it for a second?

Haha the vets weren't fooled.

The album will be spring 2006 by the looks, any sooner is a bit of a shock i think. The way blair is so relaxed seems to me like it is a while away.

[Dude3]

Well, I just wrote a cool riff, but it sounds like the first electric riff in In Flames' "Gyroscope". I need to go compare them, and see if they're they're too close to be able to use the riff. I think my riff will past the test of awesomeness.

And I really believed it. Brian posted a bulletin on Myspace talking about the Tool release date and prompt, and I was in this thread for like 24 hours straight.

[Magicaltroll]

Well, I just wrote a cool riff, but it sounds like the first electric riff in In Flames' "Gyroscope". I need to go compare them, and see if they're they're too close to be able to use the riff. I think my riff will past the test of awesomeness.

And I really believed it. Brian posted a bulletin on Myspace talking about the Tool release date and prompt, and I was in this thread for like 24 hours straight.
I know, I was really excited, I jsut wanted anything really though, and it did seem well thought out. :/

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Haha the vets weren't fooled.


Yeah, we see through the lies

I think its a nationality issue too, rule Britannia

[Magicaltroll]

Awww... AJIG thinks that Britain is better than the US.

How cute.

:p

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Nah, US is better than Britain


Just England pwns your crummy country :p


Ill avoid further country debates now, as if I piss off your country, they might not send over any Tool albums on the release date

[Magicaltroll]

That's right...
:cool:

[Kage]

Yeah, we see through the lies

I think its a nationality issue too, rule Britannia
Vets rule. :cool:

American vet, here, though. Sorry :p

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

All the newsletter did was make me even more confused than before. :(

[paganman7]

The newsletter was nonsense! All Blair did was confirm (most of us already knew) that Joe Baressi was producing or mixing the album, and show us the same pictures that are on Adam's page...thanks Blair!

By the way, the morse code was on the newlsetter...wtf?

[Mother]

Is it true that the lead singer of tool( I dont know his name:() removed his ribs so that he can show off his 3d tattoo he's got on his back?

I heard it somewhere and I just wanted to make sure its true.

[Kage]

Yeah, it's kind of weird, because he's basically like a snake. Without his ribs, he kind of slithers along and looks reptilian.

Very bizarre :eek:

[Darkness]

No.

[Mother]

I dont mean all his ribs maybe just one or two from either side.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Yeah, it's kind of weird, because he's basically like a snake. Without his ribs, he kind of slithers along and looks reptilian.

Very bizarre :eek:

:lol:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Anyone else worried by the number of firearms Tool seem to have in their recording space?

[clearvision]

Anyone else worried by the number of firearms Tool seem to have in their recording space?

It's obviously a precaution in case any crazed fans manage to get in to the studio.

I ahve discovered 30 seconds to mars, they are sounding good...opinions?

I am working on a cover of Coheed and Cambria's in keeping secrets of silent earth : 3 ...but My backing track is midi drums + bass...And cool edit won't let me mix these with my guitar parts, how do I make it so it does mix?

(cool edit is an older version of adobe audition)

Yeah i suspect someone here wil be able to help :)

[Reywas]

That's my favourite Coheed song.Good luck.

[clearvision]

hxxp://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0U8VBVIJV1S0Q2HC0ALPFHFKOF

Here is the midi of drums + bass

If someone would convert it to a wav file using fruity loops or something I'd be a happy man, I have tried doing it but i suck with fruity loops and it wouldn't even play through it :(

[Shadius]

I ahve discovered 30 seconds to mars, they are sounding good...opinions?

I am working on a cover of Coheed and Cambria's in keeping secrets of silent earth : 3 ...but My backing track is midi drums + bass...And cool edit won't let me mix these with my guitar parts, how do I make it so it does mix?


Thats so weird. I'm just listening to that song as I read that.

30 Seconds to Mars sounded pretty average to me, trying to sound sophisticated with the strings and acoustic parts, but under it all it's just an actor trying to throw a record out. I might have to give the album another chance though.

[Knifeboy]

I ahve discovered 30 seconds to mars, they are sounding good...opinions?


I have a bootleg of an acoustic show they did.. It's absolutely amazing, and one of my favorite acoustic performances

[Dude3]

*starting the thread up again*
I really don't like Coheed, but I'll admit it. That "Welcome Home" song kicks butt.


Okay, this will sound really close minded, but its pointless to have 3 guitarists in a band. Unless you perform the most technical crapolla in the world, you really don't need 3 guitarists in your band. I can see where it would possibly be necassary every now and then for a band to have a 3rd guitarist for live shows(and it better be necassary). Its just, crappy emo bands do not need 3 guitarists(I can count two or three in my area).

It just really annoys me for some reason. I know I'm being very ignorant, but I have to get that off my chest. You better be Necrophagist+Al di Meola+Opeth X 100.

[clearvision]

Coheed stuff is pretty technical, and to my knowledge they only have 2 gutiars, well in IKSOSE3 they only have 2. This creates some great harmonies which i would show you but my comp is bieng a d!ck. Even if they aren't technical the band just may want to have a heavier sound, thicker without using loads of crappy pedals.

[Dude3]

Coheed stuff is pretty technical, and to my knowledge they only have 2 gutiars, well in IKSOSE3 they only have 2. This creates some great harmonies which i would show you but my comp is bieng a d!ck. Even if they aren't technical the band just may want to have a heavier sound, thicker without using loads of crappy pedals.


Oh no, I wasn't talking about Coheed. Just in general. Of course there can be layers and layers of guitars in recordings, but IMO you don't really need 3 guitarists in your band(this is really directed to these 2 emoish middle school bands in my neighborhood).

[clearvision]

Well if you have 3 important layers in the recording and need to replicate that live then you need 3 guitars. If one played is playing lead, and the other two are playing variations of the rhythm then 3 guitarists is needed giving a cool sound.

[Futuro]

yeah dude3, 3 guitar players is stupid.

and who is coheed? i thought i have heard of this band, it was some fat dude with high pitch vocals, please tell me this isnt the band you are talking about...

[Dude3]

Well if you have 3 important layers in the recording and need to replicate that live then you need 3 guitars. If one played is playing lead, and the other two are playing variations of the rhythm then 3 guitarists is needed giving a cool sound.
I know. It just annoys me for some reason.(Ex.Hawthorne Heights).

[clearvision]

Hawthorne Heights are Ok :)

Yes coheed's lead singer has a very high voice.

[Knifeboy]

30 Seconds to Mars sounded pretty average to me, trying to sound sophisticated with the strings and acoustic parts, but under it all it's just an actor trying to throw a record out. I might have to give the album another chance though.

Was it their new or their self titled album? I haven't heard their new one, but I've heard it's very different from their debut..

[Futuro]

Hawthorne Heights are Ok :)

*sigh* if they could make a happy medium from whiny vocals and the wanna be metal scream i might listen....but as soon as i hear

/whiny voice, hardly audible
"i cant make it on my own"
/hardly whiny, too audible
"BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAHBLAH BLAH BLAH BLAAAAAAH"


see if they switched it around and made the BLAH part inaudible, and made the singing better i would listen

^^ if you tried to understand that,....im sorry for wasting your time :lol:

[clearvision]

They are like a not as good alexisonfire to me. It's just good to just listen to as like background music. You can't sit there and just concentrate on the music, it isn't good enough. But yeah, i did kinda just download as many albums as i could from the pop-punk YSI thread before my holiday and i enjoyed the HH one.

[Dude3]

"Slit my wrists and Black my eyes"



................Need I say more?

[clearvision]

"Slit my wrists and Black my eyes"



................Need I say more?

I don't really know the band that well, but I thought this was a mockery...meh.

Oh and Bena nd Kurrpt and any other Kanye haters...check out his latest gem...

"I think I carry a lot of stuff on my records," he says. "Sometimes I feel like I’m carrying the whole of hip hop itself, the state of music too. I’ve just tried to push the envelope."

[Dude3]

I don't really know the band that well, but I thought this was a mockery...meh.
Mockery indeed.

When I see those lyrics typed on usernames across this world of troubled youth known as Myspace, the only emotion I can distribute is a mixture of laughter and pain. Some may think this is anachronistic. I think its well deserved.

[Futuro]

"Slit my wrists and Black my eyes"



................Need I say more? ahhhhh... i see, i always thought he said something about a wrench :-/

[Shadius]

Was it their new or their self titled album? I haven't heard their new one, but I've heard it's very different from their debut..

The album was A Beautiful Lie.

[clearvision]

Was it their new or their self titled album? I haven't heard their new one, but I've heard it's very different from their debut..

The new one is good, the cover of Bjorks hunter at the end hits the spot for me.

[Knifeboy]

I'd recommend listening to their self titled debut.. Some of the lyrics are cheesy, (It's a "concept album" based on space themes).. But the songwriting is really really solid

[clearvision]

I have both :)

I heard attack while on holiday in america, and the statin i was listening to was advertising a free concert for them...i thought they sounded ok so i downloaded both the albums. Sounds good to me :)

[Knifeboy]

Wich album do you prefer?

[Syncratic]

I'm just messing around here on my guitar, and I've almost nailed the non-pick scrape into to Prison Sex.

[clearvision]

Wich album do you prefer?

I'm halfway through the first one now, I prefer the second one at the moment, but that's because it was easier to listen to and this one seems slightly repetitive, but my opinion will probably change when i listen to them more. I am enjoying their sound though.

[Darkness]

yeah dude3, 3 guitar players is stupid.
Watch it guys, Maiden has 3 guitar players. :thumb:

[Endless Obsession]

Watch it guys, Maiden has 3 guitar players. :thumb:

Point Proven! :thumb:

:eek: :eek:

[Kage]

Radiohead often have 3 guitarists, and it's an amazing thing.

[Syncratic]

3 guitarists is cool.

Too bad none of the guitarists in Hawthorne Heights have any talent whatsoever.

[Reywas]

Slipkont have 1 drummer + 2 percussionists.I don't think that's really needed.And don't they have like a pointless fat guy who does mess during the live show?

[clearvision]

Slipkont have 1 drummer + 2 percussionists.I don't think that's really needed.And don't they have like a pointless fat guy who does mess during the live show?

It is needed. Not in the studio, but their live show benefits from these clowns inciting the crowd and stuff.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Remember that Slipknot is really a live band, like their music or not, but that many members on stage create one hell of a stage presence