Tool

[Syncratic]

Does the (near) car crash come to memory when you listen to Disposition?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh, no, not so much. It's not what I think of when I listen to that song, if that's what you mean.

[BlindWriting]

I think I remember that story. It's a very trance inducing song, I don't blame you.

[Syncratic]

Disposition is the lullaby.

Reflection is the cradle.

Triad is the dream.

Cool. This could open new doors of interpretation.

[Kage]

You inadvertently just perfectly defined Meshuggah. Thank you. :p

Anyways, Disposition almost made me die once. I've shared the story once here, but I might as well do it again; I was driving home from a long day at school and I was just having a lot of trouble with life in general. Overload of school work, stupid girls, and parents, y'know. On my way home, Disposition came on, and I just fell into this deep trance. I don't know if it was for five seconds, or the duration of the song, but when I "awoke," my car was drifting off the road, heading for a telephone pole.

:eek:
Woah, that's strange.

One time I was driving along listening to Disposition, and the weather was this overcast grey, which sets the perfect mood for the album. So I was really into it, and right as Maynard said "watch the weather change," it started to rain and I had one of those moments, where you're just completely taken into those songs. That was pretty cool.

[BlindWriting]

One time I was driving along listening to Disposition, and the weather was this overcast grey, which sets the perfect mood for the album. So I was really into it, and right as Maynard said "watch the weather change," it started to rain and I had one of those moments, where you're just completely taken into those songs. That was pretty cool.
Oh man, that's cool, dude. That would be like my room exploding when Maynard screams in The Grudge.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I was tripping balls while listening to Third Eye (live) last night. Freaky as hell.

[Otherside]

Woah, that's strange.

One time I was driving along listening to Disposition, and the weather was this overcast grey, which sets the perfect mood for the album. So I was really into it, and right as Maynard said "watch the weather change," it started to rain and I had one of those moments, where you're just completely taken into those songs. That was pretty cool.


... Did you ever post at leoslyrics.com?

[Kage]

No...I don't recall ever posting there, but I think I've been to the site a couple of times? Do we have a case of deja vu here?

EDIT: Oh, I just saw the post you were probably talking about. There's definately something to this song.

[Otherside]

No...I don't recall ever posting there, but I think I've been to the site a couple of times? Do we have a case of deja vu here?


While returning from a tool concert, and listening to this song, well... Right with the music picked up, and he says "watch the weather change". The sky went from a nice calm blue, into an instantaneous thunder storm. The largest and closest lightning strike hit, right as reflection started... It was so ****ing weird, and awe Inspiring.

Very big case of deja vu... very strange :/

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Link? I wanna see. :-D

EDIT: Never mind, I read the 2nd quote in your post, Otherside. :p Very interesting to say the least. Where I am, it hardly ever rains, and the weather rarely changes, so if that happened to me, that would really be something freaky.

[Otherside]

http://leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.php?hid=xODPHgZpcWI%3D

[Kage]

I wish it rained more around here. I love it when it rains, so that experience was really awesome. Yeah, just a weird coincidence though, that it happened to that other guy. For me, it didn't start thunderstorming, and it began as cloudy and overcast, so they're different in that sense.

I'm listening to Lateralus right now for the first time in about a month, and it really is refreshing.

[Mr Herb]

A month without laterlaus. . .wow

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I was tripping balls while listening to Third Eye (live) last night. Freaky as hell.

Don't use the term tripping balls. Weirdos use that term.

[Otherside]

I'm on a Tool haitus as well. I'm happily satisfied with Dredg, Sigur Ros, The Arcade Fire, Radiohead, and The Mars Volta for now though.

[Kage]

I've been in that stage with Dredg, Porcupine Tree, Radiohead, and a whole host of Post Rock bands for the past month. Now, I'm ready to get back to some Tool, though.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I listen to Tool at least once a week, because when I mow my lawn, I listen to Lateralus. :cool: It's almost as if the album is syncronized with my lawn, because Triad usually ends when I'm finished mowing my lawn. :lol: Wicked.

[Kage]

I'm going to start listening to Tool more now after my hiatus. But once the new album comes out, I'll listen to them nonstop for a while. That could be quite a ways away though.

I finally got a scrob (http://www.last.fm/user/Redrawing). They're fun.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

My scrob (http://www.last.fm/user/DrJakeDestructo) is already extremely lopsided in Tool's favor, so it'll be scary to see what it's like when Elephtheria comes out.

[Huber]

My scrob (http://www.last.fm/user/DrJakeDestructo) is already extremely lopsided in Tool's favor, so it'll be scary to see what it's like when Elephtheria comes out.

I haven't been here in awhile, is that name official?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

No, I just didn't want to say "the new Tool album due out sometime before Summer '06."

:upset: Turns out I had to anyways.

[Darkness]

A month without laterlaus. . .wow
Heh your a lightweight.

[Huber]

My bad, I just didn't know if that news letter from BMB came out yet confirming that or something.

[BlindWriting]

As of yesterday it had been three weeks since I had last listened to Lateralus. Kept myself busy with Porcupine Tree, Opeth, Incubus, and At The Drive-In.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I've been busy with Dredg, Porcupine Tree, Symphony X and Arcturus, but like I said, I still listen to Lateralus at least once a week. :-D It's been a while since I played some Jones on guitar though. I've been engulfed in Porcupine Tree songs. Today, I finished learning the solo to Sound of Muzak. It's fun to play, but it really sounds like crap with my weak amp. :upset:

[Darkness]

I want to listen to Lateralus so bad... :upset:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Did your friend set any guidelines on playing Tool songs on guitar? I could YSI you some Tool MIDI tabs. :lol:

[BlindWriting]

I've been busy with Dredg, Porcupine Tree, Symphony X and Arcturus, but like I said, I still listen to Lateralus at least once a week. :-D It's been a while since I played some Jones on guitar though. I've been engulfed in Porcupine Tree songs. Today, I finished learning the solo to Sound of Muzak. It's fun to play, but it really sounds like crap with my weak amp. :upset:
I sort of finished a big PT binge. I'm really interested in getting either The Sky Moves Sideways or Voyage 34.
And yeah, The Sound of Muzak's got a fantastic solo in 7/4. Steve Wilson is such an underrated guitarist, but then again, PT is sort of a cult-type band here in America.


Did your friend set any guidelines on playing Tool songs on guitar? I could YSI you some Tool MIDI tabs. :lol:
Don't tempt him, O Minion of Satan!!!!1!!eleven!!!111!

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I find it hard to write a solo in 7, but playing it seems to come quite easy for me. It's probably because I've heard the song so many times, though.

[BlindWriting]

I find it hard to write a solo in 7, but playing it seems to come quite easy for me. It's probably because I've heard the song so many times, though.
Yeah, playing someone else's odd time solo is probably a great way of developing your own. My band is playing Halo for a gig, and the guitarist is learning that wonderfully manic Adrian Belew solo in 17/8.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

That solo is a great combination of Belew's odd, discordant style, and his technical ability as well. I like it. :) Too much for me to learn, though.

[BlindWriting]

Have you heard "Indiscipline" by King Crimson?
That's definitely another amazing showcase for his abilities.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Have you heard "Indiscipline" by King Crimson?
That's definitely another amazing showcase for his abilities.

I know of a good song by King Crimson called "Discipline." Is that what you meant? Or are they two seperate songs?

[Reywas]

I know of a good song by King Crimson called "Discipline." Is that what you meant? Or are they two seperate songs?

There's actually a song called Indiscipline from the same album.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

I just had a ranom thought. When Tool tour Australia next im going to wear a shirt with 'Maynard is NOT God' written on it. Think i'll get a nice reaction from all the Maynard fan boys at the show,lol.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I just had a ranom thought. When Tool tour Australia next im going to wear a shirt with 'Maynard is NOT God' written on it. Think i'll get a nice reaction from all the Maynard fan boys at the show,lol.

"MJK sucks" is on mine, on the back at least

Then my username on the front

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Lol, **** i thought i was being oh so original.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I've not made it yet, but thats the idea im tinkering with.

You do know some of those tool fanboys are pretty big and mean though? Expect to be the focus of 'pit' action

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Haha yeah i was thinking of that before. Maybe i could just sit in the seats,lol. Do you think i shirt like the one you or I are thinking about wearing would get any kind of reaction from Maynard if spotted by him?

[Kurrpt]

sup fellas

[TheMachineRagesOn]

word, when tool tour down under next year im gonna get a shirt that says " its about bloody time"


That and "danny carey>any other drummer here"

[Adam Jones is GOD]

word, when tool tour down under next year im gonna get a shirt that says " its about bloody time"


That and "danny carey>any other drummer here"

:lol:

There should be an agreement with the crowd to all tap their watches when they come to the stage

[MasterOfCeremonies]

This is quite out of the blue, but I have a video of Eulogy live and in the beginning and random other parts Maynard is singing through something that I don't know what it is. I'm also wondering how he's making the noises at the beginning. Feel free to help or ignore, it's up to you.

[Kurrpt]

its a megaphone i think

[Darkness]

word, when tool tour down under next year im gonna get a shirt that says " its about bloody time"


That and "danny carey>any other drummer here"
If they do tour down there, I hope they don't have another car accident...

[Futuro]

"MJK sucks" is on mine, on the back at least

Then my username on the front in my high school year book last year i am on one of the first pages of the book with a shirt that says

Gay
for
Maynard

i also made a shirt that says "Tool Sucks" i made it on a black shirt with whiteout....im awsome :)

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

word, when tool tour down under next year im gonna get a shirt that says " its about bloody time"


That and "danny carey>any other drummer here"

:lol:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

We have a new name I see

[Darkness]

What the hell... thats stupid... why is it like that?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

This post cannot be seen because this user offended my favourtie part of an Opeth song

As for the name change, I guess its to shut up those Official Thread compaliners. Would have been nice to have a better name though

[Darkness]

Yeah, "Tool" would have done nicely.


And about that Opeth thing, I didn't make that up... It was on the official Opeth bored. Mike himself laughed at it... don't blame me! lol

The Moor >>>>>>>> Godheads Lament.

[SonorKen]

Im open for suggestions on how to name these threads. It has to be something that will grab the attention of new forum members tho.

The **********OFFICIAL**************** **** was wearing me out.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I used to think that, but my favourite track keeps progressing along the tracklist.

Even though it would defeat the purpose of being an Official thread, some witty Tool logic would have been cool, like "Bethlehem Abortion Clinic" (with spelling assistance)

[Kurrpt]

seems pointless to me

[SonorKen]

I used to think that, but my favourite track keeps progressing along the tracklist.

Even though it would defeat the purpose of being an Official thread, some witty Tool logic would have been cool, like "Bethlehem Abortion Clinic" (with spelling assistance)
hahahaha Im gonna rename it that for a little while.

[Futuro]

maybe name it something related to lachrymology? that would be cool :)

[Reywas]

Bethlem Abortion Clinic is a great name IMO

[Futuro]

Bethlem Abortion Clinic is a great name IMO :cool: works as a good user title too.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

:cool: works as a good user title too.

:lol: That's a great name. I say leave it for the thread title.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think we need a fanboy club like CoB's Hatecrew, with positions and stuff. :cool:

/wants to be the fetus eater

[BlindWriting]

I think we can do better with the name.

How about Masturbation Addicts Anonymous?

[Darkness]

A fan club name? The Third Eyes.

[ThePatient]

Haha, it took me a few minutes but I finally got the name. :lol:

[BlindWriting]

Haha, it took me a few minutes but I finally got the name. :lol:
:lol: Abort Jebus!!!

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Who came up with the name? Ahh, good job, AJIG.

[Reywas]

:cool: works as a good user title too.

you're right :thumb:
/steals

[Dude3]

Nice title man! Its coolio.

[Artemician]

Heh, nice topic title. Might confuse people a bit though.

[Knifeboy]

I think we can do better with the name.

How about Masturbation Addicts Anonymous?

I fail to see how that's tool related

[Kage]

This is bizarre....I feel a little lost to be honest.

[Shadius]

Just call it the damn "Tool Community Thread" and have done with it, no need to put new users off, or attract the wrong kinda people.

[BlindWriting]

I fail to see how that's tool related
You're right, they should give that title to the Dream Theater thread.

[Futuro]

I fail to see how that's tool related we could probably say that in one rare interview with "ok star" magazine, adam and maynard said they love masturbating alot and they are addicts....and people will probably be like

"MX user" why the hell are you guys called "Masturbation Addicts Anonymous"

"tool thread user" cuz we R teh shiz in da Bethlehem Abortion Clinic and we love masturbating lik teh tool, so CUM join.

(heehee i purposely spelled cum like that)

[Knifeboy]

You're right, they should give that title to the Dream Theater thread.

Haha!

[Kage]

Just call it the damn "Tool Community Thread" and have done with it, no need to put new users off, or attract the wrong kinda people.
That's what I was thinking. I don't want this thread to be flooded with a bunch of people who don't know it's the Tool thread.

[Knifeboy]

It's in the first line of the first post..

[Kage]

Who goes to the first post?

[SonorKen]

Well, were gonna have all the communities in these forums decide on the threads name, so, you guys come up with one and well name it. I'll change it back to something more normal.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think just "Tool" would work.

[Kage]

or the Lachrymology Thread :p.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Or a cool acronym for TOOL

The
Orgasmic
Ovulating
Lachrymologists

or

The
Obsessive
Omniscient
Lachrymologists

:cool:

Any other takers?

It's just subliminal enough to keep out the uber idiot fanboy Tool fans, but obvious enough to own.

[Futuro]

Any other takers?

The
Over-thinking
Over-anylizing
Lachrymologist's


^JK :)

[Kage]

:lol: Not bad at all.

Hey, can anyone upload the first part of the Oklahoma show? I never got my hands on that, and lately I've been wanting to watch it.

[BlindWriting]

I think just "Tool" would work.
Same, or even The Tool Thread.

[Arrakakaka]

Same, or even The Tool Thread.
But this is funnier.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ken, you rule!

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

The
Over-thinking
Over-anylizing
Lachrymologist's


^JK :)

I like that!

[Artemician]

Same here.

[Huber]

The current title or Faith's suggestion are both fine with me.

[Shadius]

Ok, they're funny, they really are, but no ones going to have a clue what the thread is. Only when people start to wonder where the offical Tool thread went are they gonna start to wonder.

I'll laugh if we change it and people start making new offical tool threads because it's disappeared.

Anyway, something simple and easy to understand is best, this isn't a ****ing clique.

[Syncratic]

Finally found it, guys!

Haha...so, any news today?

[Dude3]

Finally found it, guys!

Haha...so, any news today?
I'm swiftly learning the arp solo in Dream Theater's "The Glass Prison".


As for Tool, noparoony :(

[Syncratic]

Ah....a few more days left to August, I'm anxious to hear some news of the recording process.

They just played the bass riff to 'Schism' on MTV2's High School Stories (one of the few MTV shows I watch.)

[Darkness]

The Tool Thread is perfect... or even just...

Tool

[Kage]

I wonder where Tool would be today without the loss of Paul and the addition of Justin. Lateralus certainly wouldn't be what it is without Justin...

Oh, anyone willing to upload the Oklahoma video, I'd be really appreciative!

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I wonder where Tool would be today without the loss of Paul and the addition of Justin. Lateralus certainly wouldn't be what it is without Justin...

Oh, anyone willing to upload the Oklahoma video, I'd be really appreciative!

That's a scary thought. Lateralus would be completely different.

[Knifeboy]

Who goes to the first post?

anyone who doesn't know wich thread this is? thus informing them

[Syncratic]

If Paul would've stayed...they'd probably be the same as the Undertow era.

Paul's tone was dirty and deep and grungy, really no variation.

Justin's effects and his knowledge of them gives Tool a good variation in sound.

[Darkness]

Paul didn't really have a chance to have variation though, I'm sure he would have progressed as the rest of the band did. He said himself he wanted to do something experimental.

[Syncratic]

I have a suggestion:

"Save Francis Beane"

Just kidding........

How about......

"Crucified Egos"?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Tool will do, until we need the second thread devoted for the album. Then we can have fun making up names again

[Syncratic]

True, true....

Although, another cool title would be:

"Hole We Call L.A."

[Adam Jones is GOD]

No, bad choice, what happens if it gets corrupted, and the mods look at the instructions on how to fix it.

"Says here that the only way to fix it is to flush it all away..."

/deletes


Edit: Good job again ken. :thumb:

[Kage]

Paul didn't really have a chance to have variation though, I'm sure he would have progressed as the rest of the band did. He said himself he wanted to do something experimental.
It seems like the mentality of the band changed once Justin came. Whether that was a result of Justin or not I don't know.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

It seems like the mentality of the band changed once Justin came. Whether that was a result of Justin or not I don't know.

I think the band met some sort of middle ground. I can specualte, but before Tool, Justin, although dabbling in some, never went nutss with different bass tones and effects.

Now maybe it was the fact he was in a bigger band, meaning more money to spend on equipment, but he really started branchong out and testing out new effects and tones. Although it might have been Adam suddenly deciding to begin following Tom Morrellos example (or by own persoanl choice), and experimenting himself, which in turn, Justin followed.

But, who knows, but one thing is for sure is that any new musician is likely to bring new ideas and have an effect on a band's sound, which is probably the case with Justin.

Wow, look at that big circle I just went round

[Syncratic]

No, bad choice, what happens if it gets corrupted, and the mods look at the instructions on how to fix it.

"Says here that the only way to fix it is to flush it all away..."

/deletes

Didn't think of it that way.......

:lol:

[Rothmans]

See the thing with me and justin is it seemd Paul went for a grimey dark bass line and it fitted undertow perfectly and it gave it an all round darker mood.


Then came Justin now Aenima was amde with paul in mind aswell pu**** is an example for me justin may have wrote the bass for that but it reminds meof paul.

Then salival where he showed a bit of what he can do.

Then came Lateralus Justins proper opening. Now extremely gorgeous basslines a lot of high neck and more beautiful and it seems he sticks on top of adam more so than buried under but you have to listen for it and he became a domineering power with Lateralus.


/Loves Justins basslines.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I think Push1t was a post Undertow track, before Justin's arrival. I cant remember what tracks were done by Justin from memory, but it wouldnt suprise me if they were the darker Ænema ones

[Rothmans]

I think Push1t was a post Undertow track, before Justin's arrival. I cant remember what tracks were done by Justin from memory, but it wouldnt suprise me if they were the darker Ænema ones


I prefer Justin over all to Paul. I dont know why there was something about the way he looked he didnt like.

Justin looks like a cool mo fo.

Danny looks like your uncle that wrestles with ye and breaks your back.

Maynard the gender questioning 2nd cousin.

Adam the Drugg addict cousin YAY.

[Syncratic]

I prefer Justin over all to Paul. I dont know why there was something about the way he looked he didnt like.

Justin looks like a cool mo fo.

Danny looks like your uncle that wrestles with ye and breaks your back.

Maynard the gender questioning 2nd cousin.

Adam the Drugg addict cousin YAY.

That interpretation made me chuckle in the belly region.

[Mr Herb]

why does it just say tool now?

[Rothmans]

why does it just say tool now?


The official thing was changed for some reason.

[Mr Herb]

thats really gay, so is Blair

[Kage]

As far as Aenima goes, it seems like 46&2 was Justin's big showcase, and I'd imagine they wrote Third Eye with him as well. To me, it sounds like Stinkfist, Pu****, Jimmy, and Hooker With a Penis were pre-Justin tracks. Then, after Justin came in, they were exploring more sonically challenging material, which brought about several of the more gratifying moments on Aenima, and later Lateralus.

The reason I was thinking about this, is because I came across this website about Justin. The following seems like a big load of bull to me, but it just got me to thinking how much Justin influenced the metaphysical and "out-there" aspects of Tool's sound.

"Carrying with him a strange sense of alternate realities, Justin found himself able to access them through music and altered states of consciousness . When Tool needed a bass player in 1995 the journey to America seemed simple compared to the paths he had explored within his own mind. Currently Justin has been practicing entering hypnagogic states facilitated by sonic landscapes generated by his wife Ari and a highly specialized form of tensor yoga. These function as the arc and threads that buoy and retrieve him from the watery matrices and emotional labyrinths he explores. He then utilizes these experiences as a reference point in his riffs and style to induce a holographic depth to Tool's music."

Odd.

[Syncratic]

Back to the discussion:

Maynard is the shy one who hides in the back at the family reunion.

Justin is the one having a drink with old buddies at the pub.

Danny is the beastly dude who would crush you if you look at him wrong, but would still jam with you.

Adam is the one who would rather sketch a landscape while his friends were playing volleyball.

[BlindWriting]

As far as Aenima goes, it seems like 46&2 was Justin's big showcase, and I'd imagine they wrote Third Eye with him as well.
His basslines in Aenema, especially in the first verse, are also among his best on that album.


The reason I was thinking about this, is because I came across this website about Justin. The following seems like a big load of bull to me, but it just got me to thinking how much Justin influenced the metaphysical and "out-there" aspects of Tool's sound.

"Carrying with him a strange sense of alternate realities, Justin found himself able to access them through music and altered states of consciousness . When Tool needed a bass player in 1995 the journey to America seemed simple compared to the paths he had explored within his own mind. Currently Justin has been practicing entering hypnagogic states facilitated by sonic landscapes generated by his wife Ari and a highly specialized form of tensor yoga. These function as the arc and threads that buoy and retrieve him from the watery matrices and emotional labyrinths he explores. He then utilizes these experiences as a reference point in his riffs and style to induce a holographic depth to Tool's music."

Odd.
That's his bio on toolband.com. They're all like that.

[Arrakakaka]

His basslines in Aenema, especially in the first verse, are also among his best on that album.
Yeah. The whole power chords and pull-offs are superb.

[Arrakakaka]

The official thing was changed for some reason.
Why..

[Syncratic]

Why..

I dunno......ask Ken, they did it with all of the official threads.

[emo=elmow/otheL]

Ive read things like that about the whole band, and I must say, even if hypnagogic-astral projecto-lucid-yoga-taichi-arc and buoy stuff is bull, it still messes with your head, thereby having an effect on the music. Any input into the brain will influence the music, whether it be seeing a tree or a car, or making eye contact with someone, absolutely everything that is detected and interpreted by the brain will have an effect on the mind. Input/output.
On another note...
Have any of you ever been to Toolpantheon.com? Its a great Tool site, with neat graphics, forums, etc, but I was just there and it was lifeless! Noone had posted since June, and before that there was a three year gap. This made me sad. *sob* But yeah, it needs a good revival.

[Syncratic]

Ive read things like that about the whole band, and I must say, even if hypnagogic-astral projecto-lucid-yoga-taichi-arc and buoy stuff is bull, it still messes with your head, thereby having an effect on the music. Any input into the brain will influence the music, whether it be seeing a tree or a car, or making eye contact with someone, absolutely everything that is detected and interpreted by the brain will have an effect on the mind. Input/output.
On another note...
Have any of you ever been to Toolpantheon.com? Its a great Tool site, with neat graphics, forums, etc, but I was just there and it was lifeless! Noone had posted since June, and before that there was a three year gap. This made me sad. *sob* But yeah, it needs a good revival.

That may be your best post.

Just don't advertise.

[BlindWriting]

That may be your best post.

Just don't advertise.
I wouldn't call that advertising.

[Kage]

His basslines in Aenema, especially in the first verse, are also among his best on that album.


That's his bio on toolband.com. They're all like that.
Oh, I've never really read that. It seemed to me to be pretty much bull, because it's not really that well-written.



Ive read things like that about the whole band, and I must say, even if hypnagogic-astral projecto-lucid-yoga-taichi-arc and buoy stuff is bull, it still messes with your head, thereby having an effect on the music. Any input into the brain will influence the music, whether it be seeing a tree or a car, or making eye contact with someone, absolutely everything that is detected and interpreted by the brain will have an effect on the mind. Input/output.

That's kind of what I was thinking about it.

[Daven]

Have any of you ever been to Toolpantheon.com? Its a great Tool site, with neat graphics, forums, etc, but I was just there and it was lifeless! Noone had posted since June, and before that there was a three year gap. This made me sad. *sob* But yeah, it needs a good revival.

Yeah, i've been there. There is full of things like quotes from the band and a hypotesis about how Lateralus has to do with the qabala.

[emo=elmow/otheL]

Why..

Probably legal issues. These forums arent really endorsed by the bands so theyre not technically "official" per se...

[Kingofdudes]

Probably legal issues. These forums arent really endorsed by the bands so theyre not technically "official" per se...
Hahahha, not even close. One reason is because the mods are getting sick of people trying to make #$%#$&$%&OFFICIALLL#$%#$%#%#$%# threads for their favorite band.

[Rothmans]

Probably legal issues. These forums arent really endorsed by the bands so theyre not technically "official" per se...


I wouldnt say that, that is going a bit too far.

[emo=elmow/otheL]

Yeah, I take back the legal issues thing after reading a couple pages before this...

[Otherside]

This thread name lacks creativity :/

[Kage]

It seems in certain cases, lack of creativity is for the better.

[Mr Herb]

Lack of creativity?

[emo=elmow/otheL]

It seems in certain cases, lack of creativity is for the better.

Like for naming forums, or elsewhere? Ive always found creativity to be very important. Please elaborate. :confused:

[Kage]

It was a tongue-in-cheek comment. Lighten up, people :p.

[Mr Herb]

*Lights up*



boredom

[BlindWriting]

new t00l now, plzkthx

[emo=elmow/otheL]

It was a tongue-in-cheek comment. Lighten up, people :p.

No seriously. You had me interested there. Ive never heard that before. Were you just commenting on the stupid names people were coming up with or what?

[Kage]

No seriously. You had me interested there. Ive never heard that before. Were you just commenting on the stupid names people were coming up with or what?
Yeah, I was pretty much refering to the stupid names for the thread. Of course, in most areas of life, I'd definately say creativity is for the better.

[Darkness]

I like the new Title a lot. :D

[emo=elmow/otheL]

Well, regardless of the title, what goes on in the forum will stay the same. That seems to be all that matters.

Am I mistaken, or is there slide guitar in the background during the quiet interlude/bridge part of Ticks and Leeches? Ive looked on several tabs, and havent seen it mentioned.

[Futuro]

It was a tongue-in-cheek comment. Lighten up, people not too much or you will end up like me....

[Rothmans]

not too much or you will end up like me....



A fool? :p

[BlindWriting]

Am I mistaken, or is there slide guitar in the background during the quiet interlude/bridge part of Ticks and Leeches? Ive looked on several tabs, and havent seen it mentioned.
I think those are just effects, sort of similar to the sound that opens The Grudge.

Slide guitar has a very, very unique sound I think you might notice if it was there.

[Futuro]

A fool? to put it nicely, sure im a fool.

[Rothmans]

to put it nicely, sure im a fool.


Tune up your sarcasm skills.

[Futuro]

Tune up your sarcasm skills. it wasnt sarcasm

N
E
Ways

[Rothmans]

it wasnt sarcasm.


I was joking btw I do not think your a fool.

[Hendrix92]

The last couple pages have nothing to do with Tool.

[Futuro]

I was joking btw I do not think your a fool.......oh.....ok....well i do...its people like "me" that piss "me" off....... god i am so EMO :)

The last couple pages have nothing to do with Tool. hmm.... well doesnt my post have alot of dots in it....

[Rothmans]

......oh.....ok....well i do...its people like "me" that piss "me" off....... god i am so EMO :)


Dont be riding yourself to hard. Stop thinking we all hate you aswell because we dont :-*

[Huber]

The last couple pages have nothing to do with Tool.

That's nothing out of the ordinary.

[BlindWriting]

The last couple pages have nothing to do with Tool.
Ahem.


new t00l now, plzkthx

[Rothmans]

The last couple pages have nothing to do with Tool.


Yeah they do.


I think the band met some sort of middle ground. I can specualte, but before Tool, Justin, although dabbling in some, never went nutss with different bass tones and effects.

Now maybe it was the fact he was in a bigger band, meaning more money to spend on equipment, but he really started branchong out and testing out new effects and tones. Although it might have been Adam suddenly deciding to begin following Tom Morrellos example (or by own persoanl choice), and experimenting himself, which in turn, Justin followed.

But, who knows, but one thing is for sure is that any new musician is likely to bring new ideas and have an effect on a band's sound, which is probably the case with Justin.

Wow, look at that big circle I just went round

See the thing with me and justin is it seemd Paul went for a grimey dark bass line and it fitted undertow perfectly and it gave it an all round darker mood.


Then came Justin now Aenima was amde with paul in mind aswell pu**** is an example for me justin may have wrote the bass for that but it reminds meof paul.

Then salival where he showed a bit of what he can do.

Then came Lateralus Justins proper opening. Now extremely gorgeous basslines a lot of high neck and more beautiful and it seems he sticks on top of adam more so than buried under but you have to listen for it and he became a domineering power with Lateralus.


/Loves Justins basslines.

I think Push1t was a post Undertow track, before Justin's arrival. I cant remember what tracks were done by Justin from memory, but it wouldnt suprise me if they were the darker Ænema ones

[Killtacular]

The last couple pages have nothing to do with Tool.

Don't be such a tool*.

*Has to do with Tool

[Darkness]

Ok then, lets talk about Tool.

Whats everyones favorite song from each album? :)

[BlindWriting]

Ok then, lets talk about Tool.

Whats everyones favorite song from each album? :)
Didn't we do that like a week ago.

[Huber]

Didn't we do that like a week ago.

Then the week before that, and the week before that, and the week before that, and the week before that...

[Rothmans]

Just to prove my point

[QUOTE=Hendrix92]The last couple pages have nothing to do with Tool.


[quote=ME]Yeah they do.


I think the band met some sort of middle ground. I can specualte, but before Tool, Justin, although dabbling in some, never went nutss with different bass tones and effects.

Now maybe it was the fact he was in a bigger band, meaning more money to spend on equipment, but he really started branchong out and testing out new effects and tones. Although it might have been Adam suddenly deciding to begin following Tom Morrellos example (or by own persoanl choice), and experimenting himself, which in turn, Justin followed.

But, who knows, but one thing is for sure is that any new musician is likely to bring new ideas and have an effect on a band's sound, which is probably the case with Justin.

Wow, look at that big circle I just went round

See the thing with me and justin is it seemd Paul went for a grimey dark bass line and it fitted undertow perfectly and it gave it an all round darker mood.


Then came Justin now Aenima was amde with paul in mind aswell pu**** is an example for me justin may have wrote the bass for that but it reminds meof paul.

Then salival where he showed a bit of what he can do.

Then came Lateralus Justins proper opening. Now extremely gorgeous basslines a lot of high neck and more beautiful and it seems he sticks on top of adam more so than buried under but you have to listen for it and he became a domineering power with Lateralus.


/Loves Justins basslines.

I think Push1t was a post Undertow track, before Justin's arrival. I cant remember what tracks were done by Justin from memory, but it wouldnt suprise me if they were the darker Ænema ones[/quote=Talk about tool]

[Killtacular]

It doesn't matter; do it again.

[Futuro]

Dont be riding yourself to hard. Stop thinking we all hate you aswell because we dont :-* i want you to hate me!!! cause im such a badass!!!!...... man does my pinky toe hurt :upset:


Whats everyones favorite song from each album?
eye scraping monkey eaters from - Cofee Flavored Enima
Fatty Ate US from - lazyboysrus
zoot suit riot from - underware
smoke teh chiba from - shiny flashy lighty thingy

[Darkness]

Didn't we do that like a week ago.
Yes... It was a joke. :thumb:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think Push1t was a post Undertow track, before Justin's arrival. I cant remember what tracks were done by Justin from memory, but it wouldnt suprise me if they were the darker Ænema ones

It says in the Tool FAQ.

G13. Wait, Paul's not listed in the liner notes!

True. Surprising, considering he was with them when they wrote "Pu****," "Stinkfist," "Eulogy," and "Ænema." (Paul's omission makes me feel better that I wasn't listed either... hehe.)

http://toolshed.down.net/0001.html

Read section G for more info on Ænima

[BlindWriting]

That's a great page.

[Moses]

I can't talk about Tool. Everything has been done to death. I NEED NEW TOOL DAMNIT!!!!

[Darkness]

No they haven't! Come on everyone! lets talk about our favorite Tool guitar riff! :D






:upset:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

No they haven't! Come on everyone! lets talk about our favorite Tool guitar riff! :D






:upset:

Ooh! "Navy Seals!" :D (Don't ask why I'm referencing "Clerks.")

And just to play along, my favorite Tool guitar riff...the intro to "Cold and Ugly" or maybe the opening guitar part to "The Patient" or maybe something from "Stinkfist."

[+zero+]

why is this thread not *****The Official****** thread anymore.. the first tool song i ever jammed with my friend was stinkfyst (i thought it was a y not an i?) or maybe schism.. i dont remember..

and i learned the grudge on guitar today but its not my favorite riff.. ide have to say my favorite riff to play would be the interlude of cold and ugly.. it sounds like country!!ye hou!

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

46&2. No question. Hands down THE best riff ever written.

[+zero+]

how about everyones favorite drum beat.. mine would be the interlude of aenema.. with the double bass and stuff.. good stuff. or intro of ticks and leeches sounds cool. but schism is really fun to play.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

The hip hop segment in Eulogy is cool.

"You claimed all this time that you would die for me"

That part.

Either that or the double bass drum roll in The Grudge, where Jones just hits 10 D5s in a row.

[Huber]

the verse beat in The Patient is really cool.

[+zero+]

i forgot about the eulogy beat.. i said something about it a few pages or so ago.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

It says in the Tool FAQ.


Thats why I said I couldnt remember off the top of my head, unfortunately as cool as I am, even I forget some things from that FAQ

[Knifeboy]

I have a feelling I'll have to stop reading this thread when the album is released

[Kurrpt]

sup fellas

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Is that all you ever say?

[Moses]

No, he asks for new Tool news the other half of the time.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Well in that case, im assuming about 5000 of his 6000 posts are useless.

[Knifeboy]

I'd say it's more like 6000 out of 6200

[Kurrpt]

Is that all you ever say?


dude, i was coming to this fred before you were even inducted into these forums...


due to the content of posts here, and the degeneration of those there-in, i no longer frequent this.....


and im quite capable of saying JUST about anything

[PeEpHoLe_10]

lol


(Yes, i realise the irony of me making a post purely saying lol)

[Kurrpt]

Well in that case, im assuming about 5000 of his 6000 posts are useless.


apparently all 900 you have should have been stopped by your frontal lobe :lol:



/pwned

[Knifeboy]

The fact that you had to declare yourself that you pwned him.. means you didn't

[Kurrpt]

The fact that you had to declare yourself that you pwned him.. means you didn't


well, i figured since he was trying to play captain obvious, i might as well play along :D

[Mother_Of_Abominations]

Well to actually keep the thread on Tool, how do you think their new album will be?

[Kurrpt]

kick arse

[Mother_Of_Abominations]

kick arse
yeah I hope this cds going to be like as good as Ænima.

[Kurrpt]

yeah I hope this cds going to be like as good as Ænima.


i really dont listen to that WHOLE album anylonger. I pick and choose

[Reywas]

yeah I hope this cds going to be like as good as Salival.

fixed

[Mother_Of_Abominations]

fixed
meh, salival was good too.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Only way its going to be as good as Salival, is if its a live CD.

Tool live > Tool on album, as we are all well aware (now watch people flock to disagree with me)

[Mother_Of_Abominations]

Only way its going to be as good as Salival, is if its a live CD.

Tool live > Tool on album, as we are all well aware (now watch people flock to disagree with me)
well, they sound great live. Maynard can't sound bad IMO.

[Reywas]

Only way its going to be as good as Salival, is if its a live CD.

Tool live > Tool on album, as we are all well aware (now watch people flock to disagree with me)

Tool live sucks satan's balls AJIG.Linkin Park is gonna own this guys.

EDIT: Notice the bassist hasn't turned around yet.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Joe Hahn is alone, better than all members of Tool.


But in all honesty, he's a great creative musician who needs to break free of those generic losers quickly.

[Moses]

I don't think I'd call him a musician. I don't know why. Either way he's what makes LP work for anybody. If they didn't have him they couldn't mix Rap/Rock as well.

I like those solo tracks by him on the LP cds. I didn't mind Hybrid Theory while it still sounded original and then they came out with the overproduced, overly generic, and all too similar Meteora.

[Kurrpt]

whats wrong with TOoL on the CD?

[Reywas]

whats wrong with TOoL on the CD?

there's an alt/indie thread explaining it in great detail :thumb:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I don't think I'd call him a musician. I don't know why.

I like those solo tracks by him on the LP cds. I didn't mind Hybrid Theory while it still sounded original and then they came out with the overproduced, overly generic, and all too similar Meteora.

When you listen to any LP track, the hooks, the general feel and melody of most songs comes from Joe. The other members either throw in some 5th chords, guitar following bass, simple beat (though rob picked it up a bit on their last release) and terrible lyrics.

I still love Cure For The Itch, plus Joes artwork is awesome. He's like the Adam Jones of LP.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

there's an alt/indie thread explaining it in great detail :thumb:

Which is totally unbiased, proffessionally wrote and ever so informative.

I still get a cheap laugh out of that. And there's nothing wrong with Tool on CD, its just live is so much better

[Kurrpt]

there's an alt/indie thread explaining it in great detail :thumb:


O yea thats right....

i dont care what that thread has to say.

AJ is the friggin master on the CDs. The fact he can do that live is more impressive, but you gotta love what he achieves in the stuido

[Reywas]

In spite of the fact that they have only released 3 full length albums over a 12 year period, and 1 album in the last 9 years, Tool are one of the most popular hard rock bands in the world today, with their music containing elements of prog rock, metal, as well as a brooding arty feel that has meant Tool have developed one of the most adoring fanbases in music today. Boasting Danny Carey, viewed by many as one of the best drummers alive today, and the enigmatic Maynard James Keenan as a frontman, it is no surprise that the band have such a following, particularly after the release of 2001's "Lateralus", which saw them break through thanks to the release of "Schism"; one of the few Tool songs playable on radio. Their new album is projected for release in 2006, and seems set to be one of the most talked about releases of the year.

[Moses]

He's like the Adam Jones of LP.
Yeah, too bad LP is insufficient.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Yeah, too bad LP is insufficient.

Yeah, but if it wasnt for them, I might not be at this point today.

Thats a scary thought

[Moses]

The band I owe my tastes in metal most is Korn who actually have artistic crediblity in my opinion, just not lately. They were actually really good live.

[Darkness]

Tool live sucks satan's balls AJIG.Linkin Park is gonna own this guys.

EDIT: Notice the bassist hasn't turned around yet.
That moron pissed me off.

Destroyed that perfectly good bootleg...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I was on the Korn train too at one point. Seeing them at Download last year was funny, it was me and my friends standing around saying "Man, this takes me back" and "Remember when we were younger, we used to go nuts to this song?"

[Kurrpt]

i havent like korn since life is peachy

and i still like that album :D

[Moses]

I still listen to Korn periodically but lately I've been sucked into The Odyssey by Symphony X. My god everything is just excellent on this album.

[Darkness]

^ I didn't care for that for some reason... don't know why, it seems like somethind I'd like.

[Reywas]

That moron pissed me off.

Destroyed that perfectly good bootleg...

uploads pliz

[Moses]

Are you talking about the song or the album, DoG?

[Knifeboy]

I still listen to Korn periodically but lately I've been sucked into The Odyssey by Symphony X. My god everything is just excellent on this album.

I don't care much for that album, except for Smoke & mirrors.. My god, that song blows me away every single time.. excellent opener

[Moses]

Knifeboy you have the wrong album. You're thinking of Twilight in Olympus.

[Kurrpt]

i really dont like the singer, but the music is great.

Im starting to like CoB a lot more...

fuk the singer though

[Knifeboy]

Knifeboy you have the wrong album.

Oh shi.. I knew something was wrong.. . .But smoke and mirrors still rocks my balls

[Moses]

The Odyssey is so freakin' awesome. The title track reminds me of the epic poem itself and every song is great.

[Darkness]

^ Thats the one that jake uploaded right? I don't know, it was a bit to soft for my likeing, as well the singer didn't impress me much. Gimmi DT over them anyday. :p

[Moses]

Here, I'll upload two excellent and really impressive tracks. I think they are more talented than DT especially the singer.

http://rapidshare.de/files/3992978/02_Wicked.wma.html

[Darkness]

... MORE talented then DT? Please man... don't joke like that. :D

I'd like to be proven wrong though.

Edit: To many users downloading... :upset:

[Darkness]

uploads pliz
trades pliz

[Moses]

Well the new and old bassists are better than Myung, Michael Romeo is better than Petrucci, Russel Allen is better than Labrie, and Michael Pinella is better than Ruddess (and more musical), Mike Portnoy however is a bit better than Jason Rullo. They're also really catchy which gives them the upper hand on DT.

I'll use YSI then.

[Kurrpt]

Michael Romeo is better than Petrucci,


you cant be serious. I mean the man is VERY good, but come on :lol:

[Otherside]

Member vs. Member, Symphony X has no edge over DT in terms of skill whatsoever.

[Moses]

http://tinyurl.com/8678d

http://tinyurl.com/agqqs

[Reywas]

Myung and Ruddess are awesome.
Petrucci and Portnoy are overrated
/downloads songs

[Darkness]

Well the new and old bassists are better than Myung, Michael Romeo is better than Petrucci, Russel Allen is better than Labrie, and Michael Pinella is better than Ruddess (and more musical), Mike Portnoy however is a bit better than Jason Rullo. They're also really catchy which gives them the upper hand on DT.

I'll use YSI then.
No need, I got it. I can't wait to hear this, so I can prove you wrong about whos more talented, you just went against my religion, my friend. :)

[Moses]

Myung and Ruddess are awesome.
Petrucci and Portnoy are overrated
/downloads songs
Ruddess is overrated too by people that don't play classical/jazz piano. There's tons of people that I know personally that are better than him. I give him credit though for playing a proper piano. His technique is perfect.

Basically when you get to the caliber of DT and Symphony X there's no way to tell whose "better" or more skilled.

[Darkness]

Then why did you say that Symphony X is better?

[Reywas]

Then why did you say that Symphony X is better?

123

[Moses]

It's my opinion because I like their songs better and I have more respect for them as musicians. You actually brought up that you'd take DT over Symphony X anyday. I'd take Symphony X even though I loves me some DT just because Symphony X doesn't get tiresome the same way DT does.

It's also for the fact that people don't believe that there are better musicians than their precious DT.

/biased

[Darkness]

Wicked was ok, some parts were annoying. The guitar players tone rather sucks, it sounds like a 100 dollar amp with a 200 dollar guitar... the bassist/drummer/keyboardist don't really compare yet. And the singer isn't as bad as I remember, but he has to lay off that weird effect he uses... I have yet to see this talent that brings them to DTS level. Going to edit this post with review of other song...

[Kurrpt]

i like liquid tension experiment

[Reywas]

It's my opinion because I like their songs better and I have more respect for them as musicians. You actually brought up that you'd take DT over Symphony X anyday. I'd take Symphony X even though I loves me some DT just because Symphony X doesn't get tiresome the same way DT does.

It's also for the fact that people don't believe that there are better musicians than their precious DT.

/biased

For better musicians check out Mahavishnu Orchestra.

[Moses]

Wicked was ok, some parts were annoying. The guitar players tone rather sucks, it sounds like a 100 dollar amp with a 200 dollar guitar... the bassist/drummer/keyboardist don't really compare yet. And the singer isn't as bad as I remember, but he has to lay off that weird effect he uses... I have yet to see this talent that brings them to DTS level. Going to edit this post with review of other song...
What effect?

[Knifeboy]

Almost unrelated.. Dream Theaters old keyboard players band Chroma Key is absolutely awesome

[Otherside]

For me, there just something missing from Symphony X, like this empty space in their music that I can't describe.

[Moses]

For me, there just something missing from Symphony X, like this empty space in their music that I can't describe.
Alot of people feel that way about DT.

Anyway seeing them both live was awesome. DT had an overall better show but I'm sure if it was Symphony X in their spot I would have been more impressed. The instrumental acrobatics are better received when seen and Symphony X had a few more stunning things, especially when the bassist was just shredding. (finger player too)

[Reywas]

Almost unrelated.. Dream Theaters old keyboard players band Chroma Key is absolutely awesome

Kevin Moore was pretty good on Images and Words.I must check out this.Do they have song samples?

Unrelated:Have you guys heard DT cover of Master Of Puppets?

[Knifeboy]

Kevin Moore was pretty good on Images and Words.I must check out this.Do they have song samples?

Unrelated:Have you guys heard DT cover of Master Of Puppets?

It's not they, it's his solo band.. :D

http://www.chromakey.com/ It seems very porcupine tree inspired at times, atleast on the old albums

[Darkness]

He has this weird swerve in his voice sometimes, almost gives it a strange echo... maybe its not an effect, just a vocal technique or something... when he does his little yells you can hear it.

Anyways I like this song a crap load more, more progression and the vocals are better. But still not DT level IMO.

Have you seen Myung shred Moses?

[Knifeboy]

Press the listen button and that site, and hear an awesome really weird instrumental

[Reywas]

It's not they, it's his solo band.. :D

http://www.chromakey.com/ It seems very porcupine tree inspired at times, atleast on the old albums

Very nice, listening to Yo Go Now, trippy as hell.

[Moses]

He has this weird swerve in his voice sometimes, almost gives it a strange echo... maybe its not an effect, just a vocal technique or something... when he does his little yells you can hear it.

Anyways I like this song a crap load more, more progression and the vocals are better. But still not DT level IMO.

Have you seen Myung shred Moses?
Yes, and Myung was less impressive. He taps 50% of the time.

[Knifeboy]

Very nice, listening to Yo Go Now, trippy as hell.

You should get the album "dead air for radios".. That album is pure sex

Edit: You know what.. I'll just upload it for you guys

[Darkness]

Yes, and Myung was less impressive. He taps 50% of the time.
I love his tapping. Do you happen to have any solos by this bass player? (name?)

[Matter]

If you like Kevin Moore check out OSI...Unbelievable F'N band...Mike from DT on drums, Kevin sings and keyboards and the guitar player from Fates Warning I think and maybe the bassist too.

I will >yousendit< if anyone want to listen to a few songs.

[Reywas]

You should get the album "dead air for radios".. That album is pure sex

Edit: You know what.. I'll just upload it for you guys

That's the spirit :thumb: Does anyone else here find Trains live better than masturbation?Just a random thought.

Edit: Please do M.I'll be sure to give it a listen.

[Knifeboy]

If you like Kevin Moore check out OSI...Unbelievable F'N band...Mike from DT on drums, Kevin sings and keyboards and the guitar player from Fates Warning I think and maybe the bassist too.

I will >yousendit< if anyone want to listen to a few songs.

i want to listen to OSI.. I've been told that I should listen to these guys for 9 months now.. hehe

[Reywas]

I can't stop listening to this Chroma Key.**** you Knifeboy.I think I'm addicted.

Edit : owned, I didn't know da mn is being filtered too

[Knifeboy]

Considering how that music sounds, it's no wonder the guy left Dream Theater due to artistic differences.. Hehe