Tool

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh, crap. I meant if the guitar played the same melody as the what was being sang.

/will edit.

I've never even seen a picture of the guitar Maynard plays nonetheless his rig. :lol:

[disposition]

well this is what i use:
washburn wg-580 with floyd rose (i know adam uses a gibson)
line 6 spider 2 412 head and cab, boss metal zone pedal, boss equalizer, boss flanger, boss ds-1, ibanez demon wah and a digitech rp 300a multi effect. i usually am able to cipher the sound that adam uses, but triad is a bitch to figure out. thanks and hopefully you can help out.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Aha, today you're in luck. I have the RP300A as well. Here's what I do for Jones' tone:

Compressor- Off(This is to accentuate Jones' rawer tones
Amp - Rectified(This amp model is based off of the Mesa Dual Rectifier, which Jones uses. Set the gain to about 60)
Equalizer - Play around with this, but I usually have mine set at 2/10/2 for bass/mid/treble sounds
Noise Gate - On
Mod Effects- I usually have this off For Stinkfist, use flange, and 46&2, use chorus
Delay - It varies from song to song, but it's typically on and off in different parts of most songs. Play around with it until you're happy with the sound.
Reverb - Off
Expression - Wah

That is what I use, and it sounds pretty damn good, if I can say so myself. :-D

[disposition]

thanks man ill give this a try, hopefully i can get the sound right. kudos to Dr. Jake

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

No problem. One of my favorite things to do is help others with thier musical troubles, so to speak. You have quite a few pedals in your arsenal, man. Is the DS-1 used to generate delay?

[Moses]

http://rapidshare.de/files/3822408/04_The_Trooper.wma.html

There it is Jake.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh, freak, it's 15 megs! :eek: It better be good!

[Moses]

I wonder why it's so big?

(that's what she said) :lol:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Wierd, since it's only 4 minutes* long.








*inches, lmao@u

59% through the download

Kage- Yeah, I posted in there. Thanks.

[Kage]

Jake, just to let you know, the Explosions in the sky song that you requested, along with a few others of interest, are up in the FA thread.

[Syncratic]

I just watched the 'Judith' and 'Schism' videos for the first time....

Schism.....Holy focking schnit, that's awesome.......

Judith...Maynard's such a badass.....and Paz is kinda hot......

[BlindWriting]

Tool's videos are all great. Schism is so weird, but I'd have to say my favorite of theirs is a tie between Prison Sex and Parabol/Parabola.

The Mer De Noms era APC videos are both fantastic. Judith is a lot of fun to watch, the whole band rocking out in shadows, as seen by David Fincher. Everyone looks really cool and into it, and that three-part scream at the end between Maynard, Billy, and Paz is an amazing moment in the song and in the video. And yeah, Paz is pretty hot.

The 3 Libras video is a must see, I have sort of a connection to it. I first saw the video while I was in the middle of a fairly big change (moving out of my town of fifteen years to another school). For some reason, I was watching the video a lot at that time. Then, I didn't see it for a while, and only a week ago I saw it again, and it reminded me of the first time I met a lot of people that are really important to me now, just because of the timing of first seeing the video and arriving in the new town.

Personal connections aside, it's a beautiful video. I'd love to find out who directed it.

I didn't really care for the Weak and Powerless and Outsider videos. Or any of the three from eMOTIVe.

[Syncratic]

I watched the 3 Libras video as well.

Maynard, during the bed scene:naughty:looked bored, like he does that every Tuesday afternoon at 3:30.

[Mr Herb]

judith vid pwns. Must tool vids bore me.Too bad really.

I wish they did a vid for magdalena and another one similar to judith for the package.

They milk that song live.

[Kage]

Paz is kinda hot......
I love when they show her tying up her hair.

[Mr Herb]

I love when they show her tying up her hair.
Yeah. man that vid is just awesome

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Paz pics plz?

[Mr Herb]

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&q=paz+lenchantin&spell=1

There you go

[Rounder]

on winamp.com videos a while back the had a video for a remixed version of Pet that sounded more like eggs of satan. Cool vid cool song. Dont know where it can be founf now though, is gone from winamp

[Sleeper]

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&q=paz+lenchantin&spell=1

There you go
She's a babe.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So I asked FollowTheReaper to upload an audio Tool bootleg he has. :-D w00t for me. I'll link you guys after I get through downloading it. It has a freaking amazing group of songs on it. Stinkfist, 46&2, Lateralus, The Grudge, Sober, and Parabola. Yes!

[Sleeper]

Does anyone else here perfer the [Live]Pu**** from salival to the Ænema version?
I love the drum solo in that song, I really liked how they just had Maynard sing the first half of the song.

[BlindWriting]

on winamp.com videos a while back the had a video for a remixed version of Pet that sounded more like eggs of satan. Cool vid cool song. Dont know where it can be founf now though, is gone from winamp
You're thinking of the song "Counting Bodies Like Sheep to the Rhythm of the War Drums" off of eMOTIVe. It's a "Pet" remix, and that animated video you saw is available on aperfectcircle.com. It's a cool song, one of maybe four that were listenable on that album.

[Sleeper]

So I asked FollowTheReaper to upload an audio Tool bootleg he has. :-D w00t for me. I'll link you guys after I get through downloading it. It has a freaking amazing group of songs on it. Stinkfist, 46&2, Lateralus, The Grudge, Sober, and Parabola. Yes!
Where is he uploading it?

[BlindWriting]

So I asked FollowTheReaper to upload an audio Tool bootleg he has. :-D w00t for me. I'll link you guys after I get through downloading it. It has a freaking amazing group of songs on it. Stinkfist, 46&2, Lateralus, The Grudge, Sober, and Parabola. Yes!
Sounds cool.

One day, I swear, I'll get around to uploading some stuff from the Tool bootleg (not a live concert bootleg) that I bought a while back.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Remedy- Yes, Tabla is freaking wicked. :p He's uploading it through a program like YSI.

BW- That bootleg is mainly a Maynard bootleg, isn't it? :shrug:

[BlindWriting]

Remedy- Yes, Tabla is freaking wicked. :p He's uploading it through a program like YSI.

BW- That bootleg is mainly a Maynard bootleg, isn't it? :shrug:
Mainly, yeah, but it does have six pre-Opiate/pre-Undertow demos (all rough cuts of songs that would later appear finished on the albums), the Spasm cover, the Calling Dr. Love cover. So some full band stuff. But definitely NOT worth the twenty bucks I blew on it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think the only album that was worth my 20 bucks was Ænima. Never again have I felt gratified after purchasing an 20 dollar album. Live and learn, I guess. :shrug:

[BlindWriting]

Twenty? I think I got my copy of Aenima for about fifteen.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah, well, Borders sometimes doesn't give you the best dels. :-/ I did pick up some amazing albums at Best Buy for 21 bucks though. I got Dredg's Leitmotif and Cream's Disraeli Gears together for as much as I got Ænima. In the long run, I'll probably be happier with Ænima, but you can't deny the good fortune of picking up 2 great albums for 11 and 10 bucks a peice.

EDIT: lol Moses loves poop.

[Sleeper]

Best Buy is where i get all my cd's, Circuit City has some good bargains too.

[Moses]

Best Buy is the ****. I love it. (yes I love poop)

Also Jake did you listen to The Trooper?

[Nerium]

Dude, U Guys Hear About the New Tool Album??... I Googled the ****.. Looked on Their Site.. And its pissing me off..PLEASE HELP :(

[incubliss]

and Paz is kinda hot......

kinda?

she's perfect!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/christalbot/paz2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/christalbot/paz.jpg

[Syncratic]

kinda?

she's perfect!

I stand corrected...:thumb:

Dude, U Guys Hear About the New Tool Album??... I Googled the ****.. Looked on Their Site.. And its pissing me off..PLEASE HELP

Nope...nothing as of yet..........wait it out, be patient.....:thumb:

[Knifeboy]

The fact that she plays bass, triples her hotness..
<3 Girls with basses

[One Groovin Clown]

The fact that she plays bass, triples her hotness..
<3 Girls with basses

so true, now only if Justin Chanceelor was a girl :naughty:

[Kurrpt]

kinda?

she's perfect!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/christalbot/paz2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/christalbot/paz.jpg

that first pic is terrible...

but if she plays the violin, id do her :lol:

[Knifeboy]

She does.. Doesn't she? (play the violin that is). .... Wich would triple her hotness once again

[Adam Jones is GOD]

She does.. Doesn't she? (play the violin that is). .... Wich would triple her hotness once again

There's a 2 sec clip of her doing so in 3 Libras video.

/watches aMOTION again

[Syncratic]

so true, now only if Justin Chanceelor was a girl :naughty:

Please don't do that again........:thumb:

[Moses]

Heh, she looks like this violin player at my school.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

so true, now only if Justin Chanceelor was a girl :naughty:

He's got the hair for it.

[xMajinx]

Tool f.ucking rok my sox! (seriously, they do)

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Tool f.ucking rok my sox! (seriously, they do)

Only your sox? They've got my whole undergarments going

[Darkness]

^ Man... that made me laugh.

[xMajinx]

but seriously Tool are the greatest

[Syncratic]

but seriously Tool are the greatest

Yeah...

please, stop spamming.....

[Moses]

Tool is excellent, but try to contribute to the thread in the future. Say your favorite songs, analyze a song, ask a question, or do whatever you want but just keep this thread moving.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=361500

I say nothing else to you regs.

[disposition]

what is everyones take on the "secret" track off of undertow called "disgustipated"? im lead to believe that first half, the part about the carrots, is a mock against televangelists. as for the second part, well i dont know what to say but "????"

[Syncratic]

what is everyones take on the "secret" track off of undertow called "disgustipated"? im lead to believe that first half, the part about the carrots, is a mock against televangelists. as for the second part, well i dont know what to say but "????"

It was a message left on Maynard's answering machine by his landlord....the last part was..

[disposition]

was it really a message? thats kinda crazy, i always thought that both parts were related in some way. well his landlord must of been whacko then...

[Huber]

It was a message left on Maynard's answering machine by his landlord....the last part was..

Message To Harry Manback? Disgustipated I thought was made when they played a show at some Scientology place.

[disposition]

arent there two messages to harry manback? one was on aenima and the other was on salival. the reference to the message was for digustipated at the end of undertow about the guy who woke up in a ditch, MJK mentioned it was a message left from the land lord.

[Huber]

Oh, I thought he meant the entire thing.

[Darkness]

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=361500

I say nothing else to you regs.
That was bad arse.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

That was bad arse.

I need crits here people, I want perfection!

[Darkness]

That was actually pretty decent, tone could use work... if possible. But yeah its pretty good.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Like i was saying to Rob earlier though, the more I listen, the more I hate parts.

My tone wont improve on that, without a new amp.

[Darkness]

Then keep working on it... or get a pedal.

[paganman7]

I apologize if this is old news, but Joe Barresi was a guest on gearslutz's website. While he was unwilling to answer direct questions concerning Tool, his posts implied that he was directly invovled in the recording process in some way(mixing, producing, etc...), and that recording was not being undertaken at Ocean Studios (as some had suspected). It is more likely that recording is taking place at The Loft.

Just thought some may be interested.

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php3?t=37836&page=1&pp=30

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Hmmm, I was tryng to think of all the Joe's in music that could be involved. I never considered producers. That seems to make sense too.

Least Joe is normally quick with recording too :)

[paganman7]

Not to mention the fact that Blair hinted to a Melvins connection in one of his posts, and I believe that Joe Baressi mixed a Melvins album.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Blair confuses me :(

[A_Perfect_Tool]

I hear rumors that their album is going to be out in september 19th...toolband or toolshed make no mention of this and they are recording in secreacy? could this be a surprise release date etc?

[Moses]

The rumor is sep. 26th.

[Mr Herb]

tool aint ever gonna release anything. Les all just go do something interesting with out lives.

meh.am so tired

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ben, did you play along with Expresso's drum track?

I'm dling it now.

[Darkness]

tool aint ever gonna release anything. Les all just go do something interesting with out lives.

Change your attitude.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm guessing it was a joke.

So, new list/poll!

Favorite Tool filler songs!

Die Eier Von Satan
The Gaping Lotus Expirience
Negative Ions

[Darkness]

Intermission
The Gapping Lotus
Message to Harry Manback

Edit: Blast! forgot about Faaip... replace message with Faaip. :thumb:

[SlapnPop]

(-) Ions- (A very wierd experience when listened to through headphones)
Faaip De Oiad
Intermission

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Negative Ions is a cool song, because I really see it as a song that sort of sums up Lateralus, as the sound effects in Ions are similair to those that are expirienced before an astral projection(So I've heard. :p) And I perceive that to be a large theme throughout Lateralus

[Queeter]

I just recently started listening to Tool and was wondering what songs or albums you should suggest to start off with.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Albums (In this order to get)
Aenima
Lateralus
Opiate
Undertow
Salival

Songs: Stinkfist, Lateralus, Third Eye (acquired taste), Schism, Sober, 46 & 2...

[TheSubtleArts]

I just recently started listening to Tool and was wondering what songs or albums you should suggest to start off with.

i would start with Lateralus or Aenima. i started with Lateralus

[jamesclelland]

off topic, but, i have a class project where i am recording crawl away. i can do bass and guitar and vox, but, i would appreciate it if someone had drums recorded for that song. if not no big deal, but i need to mix in surround, and guitar bass and vox would do a crappy job of that.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

My favourite Tool filler song is Eon Blue Apocalypse.

[mudvayne420]

mine would be:
-ions
eon blue
faaid de oiad

[A_Perfect_Tool]

Eon Blue Apocalypse
Die Eire Von Satan

[XyleM]

I stopped checking this thread, but what happened to the songs you guys were covering? Where would I be able to get a copy of these?

[Moses]

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=361500

46&2 is the only one finished and the vocals are still going to be touched up.

(i did the vocals)

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

hey moses thats a good job on 46&2. thats a hell of a drummer you have, the vocals do have to be touched up tho ;) !! did your band do all that your selves coz its well recorded, its a good job.

[Huber]

hey moses thats a good job on 46&2. thats a hell of a drummer you have, the vocals do have to be touched up tho ;) !! did your band do all that your selves coz its well recorded, its a good job.

Various members of this thread made that song.

[Aequilibria]

Various members of this thread made that song.


I agree awesome job on that song. There are bands in my area who have tried to cover it and failed horribly.





http://www.myspace.com/aequilibria

[Kurrpt]

i dont even have the will to ask the same question again....

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I think, by now, you can assume that once there is a release date, it will be every other post, people's user titles, 100s of n00b threads, etc. You wont miss it

So no need to keep asking :)

[Kurrpt]

wow, what made u change ur avatar again?

[Syncratic]

Hey, guys....sorry I haven't been posting much, football all week.

And in the next two weeks, you won't see me at all, I have camp for two weeks straight. Starting at 8:30 in the morning and going till sometime after 8:00 at night..........

[Adam Jones is GOD]

wow, what made u change ur avatar again?

Final Fantasy thread peer pressure

[G_Mac07]

I didn't think I'd ever live to see the day when people apologized for not posting...

That cover is rather awesome, I just listened. Who was in the final line-up for it? Moses, I like your louder vocals compared to the softer intro etc. I think you sounded a little hesitant there or something, but otherwise great job. You improved as they song progressed.

[disposition]

My favourite Tool filler song is Eon Blue Apocalypse.
I also like this filler, but it sounds even better when you put it before pu**** live* instead of the patient.

[Syncratic]

My favorite filler Tool songs are:

Eon Blue Apocalypse
Message to Harry Manback
Faaip de Oiad.

[TheSubtleArts]

Eon Blue Apocalypse is also my favorite Tool filler. i like (-)ions and Falip de Oidad too.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Gmac, the 46&2 cover was r0und3r on guitar and bass, and his brother Matter did the drums. Obviously, Moses did the vox.

[Moses]

I didn't think I'd ever live to see the day when people apologized for not posting...

That cover is rather awesome, I just listened. Who was in the final line-up for it? Moses, I like your louder vocals compared to the softer intro etc. I think you sounded a little hesitant there or something, but otherwise great job. You improved as they song progressed.
I couldn't get a good posture. My mic chord is too short so I was sitting therefor forcing me to sing through my throat instead of my gut. I need to redo it obviously.

I was actually redoing Lateralus today but then my mom came home.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Moses- I'm listening to This Godless Endeavor, and it owns. :-D Glad I took the hour to download it. The guitar parts, minus the shredding, sounds a helluva lot like the guitarwork that my friend uses in his music. Does Loomis play a 7 string?

[Moses]

Yeah they play seven-strings. Also all the songs on the album are just as good if not better than the title track.

I still can't pick a favorite but Born and My Acid Words are the ones I listen to most.

NP: Born

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'll download them both and decide for you.

[Moses]

The solo to The Final Product is godly. I'm going to learn that.

[fallen_angel2121]

Hi guys,

Any news on when the new album is out? I'll probably keep popping my head in every few weeks to check as I heard it was supposed to be out earlier this year, bt I've heard nothing...

Fallen Angel

[Kage]

When there's an official release date...you'll know. Until then, all of us are in the dark.

[disposition]

what do you guys use to record your music? do you use those home studio devices, or some sort of pc program?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Most of us use computer microphones and Audacity (http://www.audacity.sourceforge.net).

[JimbobTheSquirrel]

Eon Blue Apocalypse is also my favorite Tool filler. i like (-)ions and Falip de Oidad too.
Where's the love for Intermission? You just gotta love it.

[Knifeboy]

I don't see intermission as filler.. .. Well.. Sort of.. But it still rocks

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Intermission is an awesome track. Me and my friend always drive around town with it on full blast, just to freak people out. :lol: it's quite the tactic.

[JimbobTheSquirrel]

:lol: That sounds funny...
I don't see intermission as filler.. .. Well.. Sort of.. But it still rocks
Yeah, it's filler, but that doesn't stop it rocking! It's better than Jimmy.

[Knifeboy]

Sounds like a hoot /bill hicks voice

What happened to sonorkens singer? Was he ever gonna sing on some of the covers?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

He's not been back since that one night he was posting. :-/ I'll ask Ken if I see him on AIM.

[Nerium]

:\ I want the New ****ing Album.. GRRRR WHEN DOES IT COME, I heard sometime in january..

[Darkness]

It's better than Jimmy.

I agree... Jimmys a weak track... Its still good though.

[disposition]

I actually think jimmy is one of their best songs! i love the part when maynard sings "under a dead ohio sky..." its just my opinion though

[TheSubtleArts]

i like Jimmy

[Rothmans]

I love jimmy.

How can you not love "Im Heading Back hoooOOoooOoooOoOOme"?

[Kage]

I love jimmy.

How can you not love "Im Heading Back hoooOOoooOoooOoOOme"?
Quoted for absolute truth.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I cant take Jimmy and H in the same sitting. Its either one or the other. thats why its useful there's a few tracks between the two.

[G_Mac07]

I couldn't get a good posture. My mic chord is too short so I was sitting therefor forcing me to sing through my throat instead of my gut. I need to redo it obviously.

I was actually redoing Lateralus today but then my mom came home.

That would be the reason then, I thought something sounded funny. I'll look foward to hearing you at your full potential :thumb:

[Kage]

Hmm...it's odd, because Jimmy and H are probably the two songs I'd single out to listen to from Aenima right now. Although I prefer to listen to the whole album anyway.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

At first, I really didn't like Jimmy all that much, but I guess it's grown on me a bit. I've seen the deeper side of it once or twice while listening to it, but it's one of those "I have to be in the right frame of mind" type of songs, like Disposition.

[Kage]

I just love the atmosphere of it. And the beginning lyrics are really creepy and cool. Probably my second favorite on Aenima, behind Third Eye.

[niobium]

To me, Jimmy is the darkest song on Aenima. Most people don't like that one, maybe because it's not flashy like Forty-Six & 2, mysterious like Eulogy, or evolving as in Third Eye. It's a needed song on an album such as Aenima, where almost every song is a standout track.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Its good to see that everytime we try and identify a weak track, we cant. :)

[Syncratic]

jimmy is an excellent song.....I don't see why people say it's weak, it's a great song.

Just got back from my weighlifting tests for football, they played 'Stinkfist'...I don't recall if it edited the 'knuckle, finger, elbow, shoulder' bits, cause it was kinda loud in the weightroom.

[Darkness]

It is needed, it is dark in a good way, has some sweet melodies/riffs and lyrics. But its beaten in all those categories by other songs on the cd. I prefer H.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Think if Jimmy was on Undertow. It would be one of the best tracks. :p

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Think if Jimmy was on Undertow. It would be one of the best tracks. :p

4 DEGREES :angry:

First rob, now you.



I may love that song too much

[Syncratic]

Jimmy is the darkest on Ænima, so that's why I like it.

The darkest on Lateralus would have to be The Grudge or Ticks and Leeches.

I can't pick one for Undertow, that whole album is dark, it just exudes darkness and despair.

Opiate, I don't think it has a darkest track, though my favorite on that would have to be Jerk-Off.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Think if Jimmy was on Undertow. It would be one of the best tracks. :p

Quoted to emphasize a certain part.

4 Degrees and Prison Secks are both awesome. Best on Undertow, methinks.

[Syncratic]

Prison Sechs is my favorite on Undertow.....that intro is terrific.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Quoted to emphasize a certain part.

4 Degrees and Prison Secks are both awesome. Best on Undertow, methinks.

I swear you edited. I wouldnt get mad at you for no reason :-*

[Rothmans]

Flood is by far the best song on undertow.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Prison Sechs is my favorite on Undertow.....that intro is terrific.

The intro owns, from the destruction via whammy bar to the very Tom Morello-ish riff. Great song.

[Darkness]

I love Prison Sechs and Flood... and Intolerance...

For some reason I don't care for 4 Degrees... It's ok though.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

:lol: Sex isn't even censored, why's everyone saying sechs?

/me started trend

[Nerium]

[QUOTE]Think if Jimmy was on Undertow. It would be one of the best tracks. I Dunno About that.. i think Undertow Is A Good Album.. Lotsa Good Songs.. Sober :)

[Nerium]

Btw i dunno how to use the Quote Thing :S

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

hey maynard james keenan did you say you heard stinkfist on the radio?!! i've never heard a single tool song on the radio, are they played often where your from? does anyone else here ever hear tool on the radio?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah, I've heard Schism and Stinkfist.

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

I sopose most of you guys are american, the radio over there is probly prety good. not like over here in Ireland you know there's sheep herdin contests and farm news and all that sorta sh** on the radio over here ;) Tool had beter come here on their next tour, they were only here twice before tho.

[G_Mac07]

Btw i dunno how to use the Quote Thing :S

For now just use the Blue 'Reply' button in the bottom right hand corner of the post you wish to quote. After doing that a few times you'll see how to use the code properly. :)

[Trintar_VIII]

I've heard Stinkfist, Schism, Sober, Push*t, and one other that I can't remember on the radio. I was really suprised when Push*t came on. I scared the other people in the car when I gasped.

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

hey, heres something...stupid for ya. well you know the quiet part in ticks and leeches i spent AGES listening and relistening and fiddeling with sound settings on my computer and i came up with the following, just listen real close to maynards whispering, i know people say you can hear whatever you want to hear but i listened and this leapt out at me and i listened again and again and it seams right

4:08 I hope your child chokes
4:14 I hate this I hate you
4:24 you stupid ****
4:27 shut your ***

theres othere stuff in there too but just give it a listen and see what you think. id like a second opinion. thanks.

feel free to critisise.

[Kage]

I never even put any thought into it, but it's interesting. I'll make sure to listen for that next time I listen to the song.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Everytime I listen to Lateralus it seems like I discover something new. For instance, I know some people have probably noticed this, but listen to the last few seconds of Parabola. It kind of bugs me that they put so much extra stuff in the music. :p

[A pig in a cage on antibiotics]

do you mean the crickets chirpin'? oh while were talkin about lateralus do you all know what the cross thing on the last page of the lateralus booklet is? on the faq it says that its unknown. but i know what it is. its a vajra, a symbol of power and spirit from the visionary realms. did anyone know this already? or did i just make a discovery?!! i can give you the source i got it from if you want. did anyone else know this???

[incubliss]

you noticed how on Schism in most parts, it's Maynards voice layered. one version a higher octave than the other, you can hear it ever so slightly.

http://www.teleincision.com/music/

anyone noticed this? i think the teleincision site is just some knob who's noticed the the rumour, and bought the domain. i really hope not tho, i hope there's some news or tuesday.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

The IP adress that it was created on did prove to be non-affiliated with Tool. Someone on Something Awful forums also admitted to doing it. :-/ What a fag/loser.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

:lol: That sounds funny...

Yeah, it's filler, but that doesn't stop it rocking! It's better than Jimmy.

haha it is. Jimmy is a very weak track. Or atleast, compared to the rest of the real songs, it is a weak track.

[Rothmans]

I remember I gave some stuff into whispering and you can hear them going fuk yeah and whooing at the end.

[BlindWriting]

I love Jimmy, I don't know why people dislike it. Pushit is the only song that took a long time for me to grown on.

[Otherside]

I've always loved pushit, the ambience is just great, and I love the guitar tone throughout the song.

[Syncratic]

I noticed the crickets at the end of Parabola.....could it be some tie-in to the Holy Gift business? Who knows........

[Huber]

I've always loved pushit, the ambience is just great, and I love the guitar tone throughout the song.

The riff he plays following the guitar solo makes me have joygasm after joygasm.

[incubliss]

The IP adress that it was created on did prove to be non-affiliated with Tool. Someone on Something Awful forums also admitted to doing it. :-/ What a fag/loser.

could you direct me to the post/thread on SA?

[BlindWriting]

Woah, that teleincision.com/music page had an entire NIN live show.

[Shadius]

So anyway, Jimmy's a weak track.

Discuss.

Honestly, if it was on Undertow it would still be one of the weaker tracks, as opposed to being the weakest track on Ænima. I actually prefer Message to Harry Manback and Intermission over Jimmy. I just don't see how the song is special at all, it just seems the most bland and unoriginal to me. I don't find it especially "dark" either, Pushit, Third Eye and Hooker are surely equally as dark? In fact, Pushit is far darker.

If we're talking instrumentally dark, Third Eye and Hooker have it beat. Lyrically, Pushit has it beat.

I understand it sounds like a very personal song to Maynard, but I just don't think he projects it very well on that song.

[emo=elmow/otheL]

Woah, that teleincision.com/music page had an entire NIN live show.

Elaborate.

[emo=elmow/otheL]

So anyway, Jimmy's a weak track.

Discuss.

Honestly, if it was on Undertow it would still be one of the weaker tracks, as opposed to being the weakest track on Ænima. I actually prefer Message to Harry Manback and Intermission over Jimmy. I just don't see how the song is special at all, it just seems the most bland and unoriginal to me. I don't find it especially "dark" either, Pushit, Third Eye and Hooker are surely equally as dark? In fact, Pushit is far darker.

If we're talking instrumentally dark, Third Eye and Hooker have it beat. Lyrically, Pushit has it beat.

I understand it sounds like a very personal song to Maynard, but I just don't think he projects it very well on that song.

Yeah I see what you mean. Every band has weak moments though...Its okay. Its not unlistenable. Im just now starting to appreciate the last half of the album like I should though so I dunno...

[Trintar_VIII]

I listened to Jimmy to see if I understand why most of the people in here dislike it. I must say, I can't really find why someone wouldn't like it. Sure it's not as good as Third Eye or Eulogy, but it's still a good song. I really like the way Maynard sings in this song and how he holds out "home." It seems to mainly come down to opinion. I guess I agree that it isn't one of the better songs, but I wouldn't put it below the "filler" tracks. I like it more than some of the songs on Undertow and Opiate, so it's not all that bad.

[BlindWriting]

Elaborate.
http://www.teleincision.com/music/nin/live_3_23_05/

[Darkness]

It is a good song, but fails in comparison to the others.

[Mr Herb]

As already said, jimmy is just increadibly bland, any other tool song beats it.:)

[BlindWriting]

Meh. Underrated.

[Daven]

It is a good song, but fails in comparison to the others.

That's exactly what i think about the song. Its a good song, but its on a cd where the song isnt on the same plane as the others. The other songs are just too good for it.

[Moses]

I'd say it's because they don't listen to the part about 4 minutes through.

[Darkness]

Whenever I play(ed) that cd, I'd listen to it. I think its a good song. But compared to H., Eulogy, 46 & 2 etc. Its just a formuletic, dark sounding rock song

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Why would Tool host a bunch of music on a website of theirs? And why would they have a SOAD cd on there?

[disposition]

I really dont see the need to compare Jimmy to any other song from any other album, do you guys think its lyrically weak or instrumentally weak, or both maybe? Why not compare the song Lateralus to lets say... Part of Me? Both are great songs in their own right wouldnt you say? But when you truly compare them they are vastly different, the complexity of Lateralus out weighs that of Part of me, making it “weaker” in that sense. Now if you just don’t like the song, thats an opinion, since it is my opinion that all Tool songs are perfect.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think it would fit in better with Undertow, due to the dark shadow it casts, and Undertow, being a dark album,(stfu Moses) it would fit right in. :)

[Moses]

Yeah, you know....

[Kage]

Yeah, you know....
Agreed.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh, he sucked you into his Lateralus=darkness theory too, Kage? Weren't you the guy telling me that even though the music may not sound dark and angsty, Wilson's lyrics make Porcupine Tree's songs very forboding and dark? :fistshake:

oh, and btw, those 2 posts made me laugh, just because it kind of shows the really community of this thread. :)

[Moses]

First time we talked about it Kage was the one to agree with me.

[Kage]

First time we talked about it Kage was the one to agree with me.
Yep, yep yep.

I always thought that about Lateralus. And, yes to the PT thing as well.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah, I think I remember that, now that you mention it. I knew there was one person who thought the same, but I wasn't sure who. :shrug: Meh, I guess you're probably right from a musical standpoint, but that's only half of the beauty of Tool. For the most part, Lateralus is supposed to be an album of inspiration. You know how Tool always chooses the song that best encompasses the entire album, and they name that song after the album?(or vice versa, not sure) If you consider that fact, and then consider what the song Lateralus is about, ("Spiral out, Keep going" great words of inspiration) I think it then becomes apparent that the album was almost supposed to create an almost uplifting feeling.

[Kage]

I agree with you in that aspect. Lyrically, I know what you mean, and the instrumentals as well can be quite uplifting. But to me it's dark in a different sort of way. Like, this atmosphere that runs underneat all the songs on the album add an almost ominous tone to it, which almost builds up until the final climax of the title track. That's kind of the way I see the album, anyway.

Oh, and Reflection is about as haunting as you can get. :p

[Moses]

I beg to differ....

One word


Rachmaninoff

[Kage]

I beg to differ....

One word


Rachmaninoff
One word

owned. :upset:

[Darkness]

I use to think Lateralus was really dark to, but now looking back.. I don't think its as dark as I once thought.... Maybe because I haven't heard the cd in 5 months?

[Kage]

Are you still holding out for the new album?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I beg to differ....

One word


Rachmaninoff

Well, of course, because he was a classical composer, and correct me if I'm mistaken, but the lyrical aspect is nonexistent there. I think that we're arguing the same side, but somehow coming out with opposite opinions. :lol:

[Otherside]

I find Schism to be extremely beautiful song, in lyrics especially.

"The poetry that comes from the squaring off between,
And the circling is worth it.
Finding beauty in the dissonance. "

That is quite possibly my favorite lyric of all time. Also, I agree with Jake, the albulm over all is very inspiring, to me atleast.

[Darkness]

Are you still holding out for the new album?
Yes. :(

[Moses]

Well, of course, because he was a classical composer, and correct me if I'm mistaken, but the lyrical aspect is nonexistent there. I think that we're arguing the same side, but somehow coming out with opposite opinions. :lol:
Shhhh......

Schism would have been alot better if I didn't hear it on the radio so many times. It's too epic.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'd recon to consider it my least favorite song on Lateralus. Not because I've heard it on the radio so much(I'm a Tool n00b, therefore I didn't ever hear it when it was at it's peak of popular single-ness) but I think it's because it *gasp* drags on too long. I saying this is basically considered a sin to Tool fans, but it really does. That boring section has it's own rights to coolness though; Has anyone noticed how the pick scrapes pan from right to left when wearing headphones?

[Kage]

I think the end is a bit of a misfire on Schism, because it builds to this huge climax, and the resolution is a bit unnecessary in my opinion.

[Moses]

Yeah, I've noticed that panning effect.

Schism was a weird choice for a single. I think the title track or Parabola would have been way better choices. Maybe even The Grudge. If you listen to Schism in the right mindset it's just insane.

[Darkness]

Really? the climax is probably my favorite part... I love that like... 3rd last riff thats really heavy sounding...

[Otherside]

I'm not saying it's my favorite song, but the lyrics in the song are just amazing. However, were I to pick a least favorite track on Lateralus, it would probably be The Grudge. Even if the last part is quite awesome, I don't really like much else.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Wasn't Parabola a single? There was a video for it. :confused:

Meh, I'm not too concerned about Tool's mainstream releases. I'm too tr00 for that.

Otherside- /slaps :angry:

[Darkness]

I can't believe you said that. The Grudge is flawless, and incredible. One of my favorite songs ever. The whole band displays their talent here... Maynards scream.. Dannys solo... Justins melodies... and Adams weird effects.

[Otherside]

I can't believe you said that. The Grudge is flawless, and incredible. One of my favorite songs ever. The whole band displays their talent here... Maynards scream.. Dannys solo... Justins melodies... and Adams weird effects.

I don't care about Tool showing off their talents, that's not what it's about for me. I just don't like the feel of most of the song.

[Kage]

Really? the climax is probably my favorite part... I love that like... 3rd last riff thats really heavy sounding...
Right, like I said, the climax is amazing. It's what's after the climax that drags a little for me.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Those wierd effects would be Adam's Virus synthesizer. Quite the little tool.


rofl

[Darkness]

I don't care about Tool showing off their talents, that's not what it's about for me. I just don't like the feel of most of the song.
I do... it flows perfectly IMO.

[Moses]

I bet The Grudge is amazing live.

**** that reminds me, I have to find that Radio City Hall DVD from them.

[Darkness]

It is... just watch Oklahoma.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Funny you should mention that Moses. I asked FollowtheReaper to upload a Tool bootleg, and hopefully he'll do it soon.

I think I mentioned this, but perhaps you didn't see it. I think The Grudge is on there.

It's audio, just so you don't get your hopes up. :p

[Moses]

Yeah I remember you saying that. Audio sucks :upset:.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

stfu DSL boy!


:upset:

I remember i downloaded one of Jom's 8 second mx video posts. Took me 2 hours.

[Darkness]

Why don't you get DSL Jake? To expensive?

[Moses]

Hey it's not my fault my step dad is a computer programmer with full benefiets.

[Trintar_VIII]

I'm uploading a video of The Grudge live in New York, so then you can see it all. Pretty cool stuff. I'll post it when it's finished.

[Moses]

I uploaded that a long time ago when I uploaded all the Tool visual I had.

[Kage]

Oh, right. I got several videos from that bonanza.


NP: Chopin - Ballade in G minor ;)

[Moses]

Chopin > almost every musician ever :thumb:

Glad that did someone some good. Ben already had all the videos I uploaded.

[Trintar_VIII]

So do you not want/need it then?

[Moses]

Someone else here could use it.

[Trintar_VIII]

Okay, I'll keep it going then.

I'm gonna go to bed, it's getting late, so I'll post it up in the morning if it worked correctly.

[Converge_Cult]

i downloaded a whole load of tool vidoes..one was them live with RATM and maynard was just standing in the back staring...tool and APC are amazing..and i am bringing my CDs for my Mushrooms Trip and my Lsd trip..which cd is better to trip to

[Moses]

Obviously Lateralus even though I don't do drugs.

[Huber]

i downloaded a whole load of tool vidoes..one was them live with RATM and maynard was just standing in the back staring...tool and APC are amazing..and i am bringing my CDs for my Mushrooms Trip and my Lsd trip..which cd is better to trip to

Upload the video with them and RATM or suffer the consequences.

[G_Mac07]

I believe I have that video, it's for Know Your Enemy. It cuts the song halfway through, to go to a quick bit with Morello speaking, and I think they then play some of Bombtrack. I shall upload it in a minute.

Do you want APC - 3 Libras (Live) or The Noose (Live) while I'm at it? They are both set on some American talk show.

RATM with MJK - Know Your Enemy & Bombtrack (1993) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=365B3DCB)

[Kage]

I'd really like to have The Noose, if you want to upload it.

[G_Mac07]

OH CRAP it's The Hollow, my mistake. :upset:

Sorry about that, but let me know if you want it/anything.

[Moses]

Rapidshare decided to be a bitch in the other thread just so you know Kage.

[Kage]

Rapidshare decided to be a bitch in the other thread just so you know Kage.
Yeah, I read that, I'm trying YSI again.


EDIT: Here it is:

Red Sparowes - Buildings Began to Stretch Wide Across The Sky And the Air Filled With Dust (http://s64.yousendit.com/d.php?id=3S23YL67X5YCC1P52UTYNPLTWO)

I'll upload more if you're interested.

EDIT2: OMFG could we have any more trouble with this exchange? I forgot to change the tt, so it got blocked. Re-uploading now. :)

[Moses]

Wow, that's almost worse than the time Jom tried to give me the new Mudvayne album.

[Kage]

Red Sparowes - Buildings Began to Stretch Wide Across The Sky And the Air Filled With Dust
hxxp://s64.yousendit.com/d.php?id=3HLB92PR1N0G423UUYIZTESN48

Once again, give me your thoughts on it.

[Moses]

You won't believe this......






































You gave me a txt file.

[Kage]

....

You've got to be kidding. What...what does it say? Is it some cryptic message that forever forbids us from transfering a file?

That doesn't make sense. I'm listening to the very file I sent you as I type this.

[Kage]

Odd. Oh well, at least we finally got it. Tell me it was worth it :p

[Moses]

My thoughts:

The production isn't the best but we all know it doesn't mean much. The drumming could be better too. But those are the only downsides.

I love the post rock atmosphere. It's probably better to listen to it with headphones on to get the full effect. Vocals would really kick *** if done effectively. Overall really good stuff. I can zone out to this like none other.

It was worth it.

Where'd my last post go?

[Kage]

I like this band a lot because of the atmosphere, the story that the album follows, and the overall awesomeness of their soundscapes. They employ some really interesting textures with the pedal steel, which sounds awesome underneath the soaring guitar melodies and the keyboards. I really like their bass player, too. He's subtle, yet interesting, and gets the job done.

[Moses]

Now it's your turn to check out Nevermore. :thumb:

[Kage]

Right. Will do.

Although, I generally don't like PM bands that much. It's worth a shot, though.

Which reminds me...which song should I download first to get started?

[Moses]

They're not really powermetal, the vocals can be powerish. I'd say either Born or My Acid Words.

[Kage]

Listening to Born now...I'll comment in the actual thread.

OH CRAP it's The Hollow, my mistake. :upset:

Sorry about that, but let me know if you want it/anything.
No problem. I have that video already, so don't worry about it. :)

[incubliss]

i got this interpretation on Schism from toolnavy, and i believe it is spot on.

think of it this way. i think that no matter what this song involves a relationship with some other human being, particularly the opposite sex. sometimes we get invovled with another person, we have high hopes, and lets just say that you had a relationship, and you were thinking "yea we both fit perfectly together."
eventually things will get old, whether you're a teenager or an adult, things do seem to get old, and repetative.
Or maybe one or the other isnt as compassionate, but yet one or the other are too connected to the other to just leave.
most of the times we are more driven to enhance or repair things which are valuable to us, most of the times we cannot throw those things away.
I THINK that maynard sings it with more feeling to show that although this other person is on his bad thoughts and worries, he's still motivated to repair this relationship, because he basically loves this other person, and wants to change things between him and the other person, to make things fit again.

this is the only way i see this song. when we try to keep something we are about to lose, we make efforts to keep that one thing, putting ourselves in denial of the facts, when in reality, we could never maintain, or repair that one thing.

it's a very beautiful song, and i'm in agreeance with Otherside.

[Darkness]

Kage, get Sentient 6 to, as that song is major kick ***.

[Moses]

He posted in the Nevermore thread I made, and it seemed like Born didn't stick to him but My Acid Words did the trick.

[Darkness]

I don't care that much for Born either... but most of their stuff is really good, glad I took the time to listen.

[Moses]

Born was the first song that stuck to me because of the catchy chorus.

[Trintar_VIII]

Where can I find these songs? I'd like to give them a listen.

[Darkness]

^ The Nevermore thread...


And yes, Born does have a cool chorus.

[Trintar_VIII]

I can't find it. Can I get a link, please?

[Moses]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=377030

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I liked the title track best out of the four I downloaded from your thread, Moses. It was quite epic, actually. :p

[Kage]

I downloaded that one, but haven't listened to it. I'll do that now.

[Trintar_VIII]

I've listened to Born and My Acid Words so far and I like this band, they've got a nice sound. I might have to buy one of their albums now. It seems I should look into Dreaming Neon Black.

[Moses]

Hint:

Post it in there.....

[Juicy_Forlorn]

Hey guys I am sort of a tool noob and I was wondering if you guys could identify this song for me.
http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/dannycarey.html
Thanks

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Hey guys I am sort of a tool noob and I was wondering if you guys could identify this song for me.
http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/dannycarey.html
Thanks

Without even clicking it, Lateralus.

Ill double check in case its one I havent seen somehow

[Moses]

That's Lateralus.

/Beaten....

[Darkness]

I like Lateralus. :D


I think I may cheat and give that song a listen...

[Moses]

Be strong.... you have Nevermore to keep you busy.

[Expresso]

Most definately upload 3 Libras and the Hollow live on the talk show.!!!1

[Juicy_Forlorn]

Thanks guys