Tool

[clearvision]

hxxp://s64.yousendit.com/d.php?id=3RZOK3HZ5GW04RH6N653YKQSK

Ions^

The band have often said that aenima is a tribute to hicks, i think he's mentioned in the liner notes. Eulogy seems mainly an attack at figures like Hubbard that saw/see themselves as martyrs.

[Syncratic]

sp1406, it's called (-) ions, with a lowercase 'i'.

Hope that helps!

[Artemician]

Arizona.zip: 3.0 of 60.8 MB at 3.7 kbps; 4:18:06 remain

:upset:

Ouch.

Iai- I've never heard that one, but it does actually sound logical. The only meaning I've heard about Stinkfist is that it is about becoming de-sensitized(sp?) by television, war, etc..The allusions to 'fisting' become progressively more grotesque, showing how after a period of time, the body becomes accustomed to things, whether it be fear, or stimulation. In this case, the metaphor is comparing stimulation to fear. Both convey a sense of shock, and over a period of time, being exposed to the 'shock' will make you less prone to noticing it.

Yup, that's what I always thought as well.

[sp1406]

sp1406, it's called (-) ions, with a lowercase 'i'.
that helped..thanks dude

[clearvision]

that helped..thanks dude

I uploaded it for you :(

[Syncratic]

that helped..thanks dude

The upload would've been quicker, but, cool.

Guys...I'm loving Arizona Bay....thanks a million, Iai!

[Iai]

Iai...is the last track named 'Elvis' or 'Charlie Hodge'?
Charlie Hodge.

Glad you're enjoying it. Hicks is one of my heroes.

[Syncratic]

L.A. Falls is a great track.....on Amazon it says 'Elvis', but I'll take your word for it.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Out of interest, how many of you have heard Arizona Bay by Bill Hicks? If the name doesn't click, Bill Hicks is the comedian included in the liners to Aenima with the quote 'Another Dead Hero'. He supported Tool on tour a couple times, too. Those samples on Third Eye ("Those musicians who enhanced your lives....." etc.) are from Hicks.

Anyway, hearing Arizona Bay puts Aenima in a different light. In fact, I'd go as far as calling everything on Aenima (not just Third Eye and the title track) a tribute to Hicks. I can upload it if you like.


We actually talked about that pretty early in this thread, however, I've only given a listen to Arizona Bay recently. I love Hicks; a lot of his act isn't laugh out loud funny, but he makes you think. It's quality social satire.

[Iai]

L.A. Falls is a great track.....on Amazon it says 'Elvis', but I'll take your word for it.
Does it? I got Charlie Hodge off a Hicks fan site. :confused:

Hmm.

Edit: I just looked around, and everywhere seems to say Elvis. Guess I was wrong.

[Syncratic]

Does it? I got Charlie Hodge off a Hicks fan site. :confused:

Hmm.

Edit: I just looked around, and everywhere seems to say Elvis. Guess I was wrong.

Can you upload some more Bill Hicks? I'd appreciate it!

[Iai]

Hahaha. Ah, why not. Rant In E-Minor coming up.

Out of interest, since you like Ardal O'Hanlon, you ever seen Dylan Moran do stand-up?

[Syncratic]

Out of interest, since you like Ardal O'Hanlon, you ever seen Dylan Moran do stand-up?

Nah...I've only seen Ardal on Comedy Central and I love it.....I'd be open to hearing new comedians, so if you have any, I'd be willing to give it a listen.

I'm re-listening to Arizona Bay, I love it so much.

[Iai]

I only have a Dylan Moran DVD - he's never officially released a CD. He used to have a sitcom here (in the UK) called Black Books, which is one of the funniest programs ever. Anyway, he's also Irish, and similar to O'Hanlon, except funnier (imo, obviously). He does quite a bit of material on music, too.

[Syncratic]

I only have a Dylan Moran DVD - he's never officially released a CD. He used to have a sitcom here (in the UK) called Black Books, which is one of the funniest programs ever. Anyway, he's also Irish, and similar to O'Hanlon, except funnier (imo, obviously). He does quite a bit of material on music, too.

I'll check it out, he sounds cool.

[Iai]

More Hicks goodies! (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9057222#post9057222)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Download date!

61% 1:38:50 remain

I've only ever downloaded a 30 mb file, so my computered is explored foreign terrotories. :cool:

NP: HORSE the band- The Cutsman

[Syncratic]

NP: HORSE the band- The Cutsman

What does the NP mean, Jake?

[clearvision]

What does the NP mean, Jake?

Now Playing.

[Artemician]

I'm starting to wish Blair would put up another one of his semi-useless rants again, at least those keep me somewhat entertained for a short period of time.

[Otherside]

So I was flipping through the booklet of The Bends, and at the bottom of one of the pages, it says "dedicated to the late bill hicks". Are they talking the Bill Hicks?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yes, both Tool and Radiohead have been influenced by THE Bill Hicks.

[Otherside]

Yes, both Tool and Radiohead have been influenced by THE Bill Hicks.


Hmm. All right, although I guess it's not as big on Radiohead's side :p

[Artemician]

Hmm. All right, although I guess it's not as big on Radiohead's side :p

Yeah, I think it was more along the lines of them paying tribute to him upon hearing of his death rather than because of any direct influence that he may or may not have had on the band.

On a different note....

Dear God, I haven't listened to Tool in months. They really have been out for too long. I should go and dig up Lateralus and Ænima again.

[Futuro]

the drummers will probably appreciate this more than most people

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=335198

its the track that says BOOM BOOM BOOM, see if someone can figure out what 2 parts of what song im playing.

its my left foot playing a pedal controlled cowbell

i mess up after i start the groove but its a very hard polyrythm

[Six Foot Revolver]

What does the NP mean, Jake?
It means Now Playing

[Darkness]

How did Bill Hicks die again?

[Matter]

>to faith+1^^^hmm i wonder...

[Trintar_VIII]

I find (-) Ions to be an important track, not necessarily just filler. The transition of that into Third Eye is absolutely amazing in my opinion. I get a funny feeling when Bill Hicks is talking in Third Eye as the drums are getting louder. I think it's from (-) Ions setting the mood, because I didn't feel the same way about Third Eye when I heard it on Salival. Wasn't it mentioned previously on here that static is what people hear when they get an OBE? I think that might be why I get that weird feeling. Anyone else have that happen before? I get that feeling nearly every time that I'm really listening to those songs.

[Mr Herb]

**** I rarely listen to third eye and much less to ions

[Trintar_VIII]

You should try it out sometime. Sit in a dark room and play the songs loud enough so that no other sounds are heard around you. It's quite an amazing experience when it works.

[Syncratic]

Herb, I Am Vikingcore wants you banned.....

I don't find -ions to be an intro into Third Eye...still a cool track, though.

[Mr Herb]

woah! why? were?

[Futuro]

>to faith+1^^^hmm i wonder... me too

[Syncratic]

Check in the Questions thread.....he says your belittle the talent of bands or some **** like that.

[Mr Herb]

You should try it out sometime. Sit in a dark room and play the songs loud enough so that no other sounds are heard around you. It's quite an amazing experience when it works.


loo I imagine, ill do it one of this days:thumb:


MJK: ok Ill chek, hes a wicked bastard

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm downloading it as we speak Marshall.

Did you check out those 2 Porcupine Tree tracks? I just got done jamming to em. It was quite fun. :-D

[Syncratic]

Bill Hicks died of cancer......which kind, I don't know......

[Mr Herb]

I think he got cancer from smoking to much or something

[Syncratic]

I think he got cancer from smoking to much or something

Wouldn't surprise me.....he's smoking on the cover of 'Rant in E-Minor'.

[Arrakakaka]

You should try it out sometime. Sit in a dark room and play the songs loud enough so that no other sounds are heard around you. It's quite an amazing experience when it works.
I'll try that out. Does it work better with some kind of drug?

[Trintar_VIII]

I'll try that out. Does it work better with some kind of drug?

No drugs required, but I bet they would enhance it even further (I'm not recommending anything...). But when it works it feels like you've taken drugs.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Marshall- On the cowbell, are you playing the bass part to the middle section of Lateralus? On the cymbal, you're playing the..cymbal part, right?

[Mr Herb]

thx for back up jake.


MJK, answer the comment I left you on my space

[Futuro]

Marshall- On the cowbell, are you playing the bass part to the middle section of Lateralus? On the cymbal, you're playing the..cymbal part, right?
:p that was too easy. i have been expirementing with different tool songs, but actually playing the rythms of different instruments on the cowbell, then playing the drum track with it, its very tedious to learn how to do it.

[Iai]

Bill Hicks died of pancreatic cancer. Whether it was linked to his drug use (as well as msoking, he also drank heavily at one point in his life, and advocated the use of hallucinogens), I don't know.

[Syncratic]

Herb-Just did! :thumb:

I'm loving Rant in E-Minor.....I don't agree with it all, but I love it......

[Mr Herb]

dam he was pretty messed up, non the less a funny and creative guy

[sp1406]

I uploaded it for you
I used yours. I was gonna download but then I saw the link, I skipped it first time. thanks

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

:p that was too easy. i have been expirementing with different tool songs, but actually playing the rythms of different instruments on the cowbell, then playing the drum track with it, its very tedious to learn how to do it.

I've actually been doing this a little bit. I'm just starting to learn the concept, but I've been learning and half-writing this deal on my acoustic where with my left hand, I'm doing these relatively slow legato hammer/pulls, and with my right hand, I'm tapping artificial harmonics to create an entire, totally unrelated melody. It's pretty confusing to do multiple things at once.

/empathizes with beginning drummers

[Rothmans]

Iai sorry to be a bother but one of the only bill hicks cd's I havnt got is dark poet and chance you can upload it for me?

[Iai]

The impact Rant In E-Minor had on me when I first heard it was unreal. I count it as one of my favourite albums of all time, regardless of whether or not it's technically music.

The only part of it I found questionable was the skit on "I'm Talking To The Women Here". I still found it funny though.

[Rothmans]

The impact Rant In E-Minor had on me when I first heard it was unreal. I count it as one of my favourite albums of all time, regardless of whether or not it's technically music.

The only part of it I found questionable was the skit on "I'm Talking To The Women Here". I still found it funny though.


I thought it lost a bit halfway through when it was some weird noise and he was just screaming how his fans are morons still funny and I liked the guitar chords he kept playing.

[Syncratic]

I don't like the veiws on the military, because my parents were both soldiers, and I was born on an Army base.

[Iai]

Iai sorry to be a bother but one of the only bill hicks cd's I havnt got is dakr poet and chance you can upload it for me?
My version of it doesn't have track numbers, so it's basically a random assortment of mp3 files that has a logical order I've yet to find.

To be honest, I think there are better Hicks bootlegs, especially I'm Sorry Folks (the crowd heckle him on that one, and he goes INSANE, it's hilarious).

I might upload it tomorrow, but it's pretty late here. If I do I'll try and track down the actual order of the tracks.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

****! My download kicked out at 61%!

Meh, I'll redo it tonight. Thanks for all the Bill Hicks, Iai. :-D

[Rothmans]

My version of it doesn't have track numbers, so it's basically a random assortment of mp3 files that has a logical order I've yet to find.

To be honest, I think there are better Hicks bootlegs, especially I'm Sorry Folks (the crowd heckle him on that one, and he goes INSANE, it's hilarious).

I might upload it tomorrow, but it's pretty late here. If I do I'll try and track down the actual order of the tracks.


:/ I kinda got hooked on hicks awhile back and arizona bay made me think about one thing about tool and undertow?

Do you remember when he is talking about shrooms and he is going on "no wonder why you giggle for the first hour to yourself" because shrooms came from a cows ***.

Well you see a cow trying to lick its own ***.

[Iai]

Haha! Never noticed that one before. Nice.

[Rothmans]

Haha! Never noticed that one before. Nice.


Well at least someone has finnaly said nice everytime I posted it people just ignore it.

[Trintar_VIII]

:/ I kinda got hooked on hicks awhile back and arizona bay made me think about one thing about tool and undertow?

Do you remember when he is talking about shrooms and he is going on "no wonder why you giggle for the first hour to yourself" because shrooms came from a cows ***.

Well you see a cow trying to lick its own ***.


That's funny, I've never heard that before, and I've always wondered why Tool did that.

[Syncratic]

:/ I kinda got hooked on hicks awhile back and arizona bay made me think about one thing about tool and undertow?

Do you remember when he is talking about shrooms and he is going on "no wonder why you giggle for the first hour to yourself" because shrooms came from a cows ***.

Well you see a cow trying to lick its own ***.

Makes sense to me..........

[Futuro]

only 2 people listened to my upload :upset:

*commits suicide*
*blames MX*

[Rothmans]

For those who missed this is maynard pre tool


Pre tool Maynard (http://www.unawake.net/cad.html)

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

For those who missed this is maynard pre tool


Pre tool Maynard (http://www.unawake.net/cad.html)

Thank you. It's an interesting listen.

[TheSubtleArts]

For those who missed this is maynard pre tool


Pre tool Maynard (http://www.unawake.net/cad.html)

I dont really like it at all actualy, but it is interesting.

[Rothmans]

I dont really like it at all actualy, but it is interesting.


The first song is great the rest is meh.

[Kage]

I don't like it much at all.

[Syncratic]

I'm now in love with Opeth.....Blackwater Park is a great album so far (I'm on Dirge for November), and I love the instrumentation.

[Kage]

Blackwater Park is amazing. I've decided it's my favorite metal album of all time.

[TheSubtleArts]

I'm now in love with Opeth.....Blackwater Park is a great album so far (I'm on Dirge for November), and I love the instrumentation.

yea its one of my favorite albums.

[Rothmans]

Still Life way better than BWP.

On that bombshell I take my leave.

Goodnight.

[Iai]

I prefer Still Life too.

[Futuro]

Opeth are great musicians, but i cant stand the growling.

[BlindWriting]

I couldn't stand death growls at first either, but now I've come to appreciate them and enjoy them if they're done right. (I.E. a band like Opeth.)

[Syncratic]

The growling doesn't bother me in the least, so.......

[Mr Herb]

I cant stand constant growls or screams, Thats why I dislike most metal :(

[Futuro]

I used to be a big metal fan...hell i started playing guitar because of kerry king, but i just lost the taste to listen to Metal.

[Rounder]

I couldn't stand death growls at first either, but now I've come to appreciate them and enjoy them if they're done right. (I.E. a band like Opeth.)

I've said it before, but it's like drinking piss until you dont mind the taste..It still sucks, you just cant tell anymore.

[BlindWriting]

I've said it before, but it's like drinking piss until you dont mind the taste..It still sucks, you just cant tell anymore.
I disagree. Listening to it with a more open mind on my part made me realize the technical skill that goes into making them sound like real vocals (not repetitive crap like Cannibal Corpse or stuff like that). Also, sometimes they sounded just plain ****ing cool. Blackwater Park is probably my favorite heavy metal album ever.

[Syncratic]

I love it as well....I'm now listening to Grace by Jeff Buckley...Hallelujah was in the movie Shrek...:cool:

Anywho, who wants to talk Tool?

[paganman7]

Howdy mates! I've been browsing these boards for quite some time, but I've never taken the initiative to register...until now.

I recently sent Blair an email asking him if he could post something a little more explicit and less, well, cryptic. He's yet to respond (I'm shocked).

At any rate, I can't wait until the album comes out!

[Syncratic]

Howdy mates! I've been browsing these boards for quite some time, but I've never taken the initiative to register...until now.

I recently sent Blair an email asking him if he could post something a little more explicit and less, well, cryptic. He's yet to respond (I'm shocked).

At any rate, I can't wait until the album comes out!

Welcome to MX!

Yeah...check around page 500 for a neat theory on the release date.

[Mr Herb]

Dont waste your time on sending Blair emails.

[Futuro]

Howdy mates! I've been browsing these boards for quite some time, but I've never taken the initiative to register...until now.

I recently sent Blair an email asking him if he could post something a little more explicit and less, well, cryptic. He's yet to respond (I'm shocked).

At any rate, I can't wait until the album comes out! Welcome :wave: nice to see more tool fans

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I recently sent Blair an email asking him if he could post something a little more explicit and less, well, cryptic. He's yet to respond (I'm shocked).



What's a matter, you don't like Blair's talks about sausages? :lol:

[Britton]

Blackwater Park is amazing. I've decided it's my favorite metal album of all time.


I've been Hearing about them for awhile now,
went to target and circut city today and neither
of them had Opeth and cc hardly knew who they
were...

Order online?

[Kage]

If you like that kind of music, I would definately order it online.

[Mr Herb]

I wish one of this days wed discuss coldplay in here:(:)

[Huber]

I'm not a fan of Coldplay.

[BlindWriting]

How about the Fantomas? They're a pretty kickass band.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I wish one of this days wed discuss coldplay in here:(:)

Coldplay are ok, but they ran out of material halfway through AROBTTH.

Least they admitted they were lucky to get past one album.

[The Flabbit Rides High]

How about the Fantomas? They're a pretty kickass band.

Im a fan of Mike Patton's work in Faith No More, but have yet to hear anything from Mr.Bungle and Fantomas. What does both sound like?



<---------Tool fan

[clearvision]

Im a fan of Mike Patton's work in Faith No More, but have yet to hear anything from Mr.Bungle and Fantomas. What does both sound like?



<---------Tool fan

Mr. Bungle and fantomas play pretty abstract music, it's difficult to classify. However Mr. Bungle are more song based. Head over to the YSI thread and request some stuff...I would upload but my internet is bieng a fool.

[The Flabbit Rides High]

thanx alot man. on my way.

[Rothmans]

So did anyone like those maynard songs I did post?

[Shadius]

Not at all what I expected. I only got the first track, but he reminds of me the guy from REM, hehe.

Very 80's sounding though, I see why a lot of people wouldn't like it.

Honestly though, I was expecting some underground metal band, or hard rock at least. I'm suprised, and quite pleased actually. Although the recording quality is pretty bad...

[Syncratic]

I think that Coldplay have this formula of using the exact same drumbeat in every one of their faster songs.

Or they just sound alike, I dunno...........

[Shadius]

I always like a couple of songs or so per Coldplay album, their newest one is the least impressive though.

Radiohead or Muse are far superior.

[Syncratic]

I always like a couple of songs or so per Coldplay album, their newest one is the least impressive though.

Radiohead or Muse are far superior.

I just finsihed 'OK Computer'........I liked a few songs, but I don't see myself becoming a Radiohead fanatic.

[Futuro]

I think that Coldplay have this formula of using the exact same drumbeat in every one of their faster songs.

Or they just sound alike, I dunno........... haha yes!!!! you are correct, he does do the exact same drum groove in EVERY song above 140BPM.

[Otherside]

I just finsihed 'OK Computer'........I liked a few songs, but I don't see myself becoming a Radiohead fanatic.

That's too bad, I find The Bends and OK Computer to be works of genius.

[Mr Herb]

coldplays latest work was worst than their previous, I think theyre just making somewhat cliche songs like their latest ballad Fix You. They are ****ing media whores but o well I like em and I got to admit I really like their bass playing even if its simple ****

[The Flabbit Rides High]

yeah, I quite like Amnesiac. Very inspiring!

[TheSubtleArts]

Im not a fan of Codplay at all really, only one or two songs i like by them.

[Syncratic]

haha yes!!!! you are correct, he does do the exact same drum groove in EVERY song above 140BPM.

I knew it.....it's repetitive as hell, dude........

[Futuro]

ya, it gets REALLY boring, there drummer isnt to talented, so he tends to accent with the piano or guitar....which just leads to repatition because there songs are all middle of the road basic 4/4. Now, there is such thing as technical pop, check out Stings "Ten Summoners Tale" there are some sections that put tool's odd-time usage to shame.

[Moses]

I got that Disectional Tool shirt. The Lateralus one with the spiral logo on the front.

[Syncratic]

I got that Disectional Tool shirt. The Lateralus one with the spiral logo on the front.

I want that shirt as well, my favorite Tool shirt design.

[Blizzink]

I have that one, and I use it as a decoration for my stereo (as it has a light that won't go off at night). I'm afraid of wearing it because i don't want it to look like ****.

[Syncratic]

I have that one, and I use it as a decoration for my stereo (as it has a light that won't go off at night). I'm afraid of wearing it because i don't want it to look like ****.

A d**k?

Tool hatred in your area?

If you like the band, wear the merchandise (I hate the word merch, if I am posting it, it's not me), don't be ashamed! :thumb:

[Mr Herb]

I have the tool shirt that has a human heart behind the logo, its ace

[Moses]

A d**k?

Tool hatred in your area?

If you like the band, wear the merchandise (I hate the word merch, if I am posting it, it's not me), don't be ashamed! :thumb:
He doesn't want the shirt to look like **** is what he said.

[Syncratic]

Oh, okay....still, it's cool.......

[Trintar_VIII]

Yeah, that shirt has a nice design on it. I'm listening to Cog for the first time today as well. Not too bad.

[Futuro]

that song jaked uploaded is teh seks its called Anarchy Ok, i havent heard anything else from Cog

[Trintar_VIII]

Yeah I just listened to Anarchy Ok. It's on The New Normal album. I'm listening to Resonate now.

[Mr Herb]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

my bass's 4th string brokkeeeeeeeee. ****!

[Kage]

Buy a new one..?

[Moses]

Bass strings are way more expensive than regular strings.

[Syncratic]

Yeah, probably because of production costs for the strings.

I'm not what you would call 'well-versed' in the area of economics, so don't take my word for it.

[BlindWriting]

I have the tool shirt that has a human heart behind the logo, its ace
I've got the same one.

[Mr Herb]

yeah Ill buy a new but itll have to wait till next week and well I dont like not playing for so long. Plus the string is only 3 months old. dam.

Local shops have good strings, I usually buy the mid price strings, not the cheap ones nor the really pricy ones



blidnwriting: one of the acest shrits ever id say

[Kage]

Bass strings are way more expensive than regular strings.
You've got to do it sometime, though, so now's as good a time as ever.


Wow, really slow conversation today.

[Syncratic]

Okay....what do you think is the hardest Tool song to perform live/cover?

[BlindWriting]

Probably Third Eye, I'd think it would be impossible to replicate that exactly.

[Moses]

Obviously it'd be Third Eye.

/Beaten to the puch.

[Mr Herb]

ticks and leeches Id say, its toguh getting a drummer that can play that, plus you gotta get the screaming down too


edit: third eye actually, i forgot about it

[Syncratic]

Probably Third Eye, I'd think it would be impossible to replicate that exactly.

True...even the band can't get it exactly, so.......

[clearvision]

It's all about the drums, whichever song has the hardest drum part will be the hardest to pull off live. Because Danny is the only real virtuoso in the band. Though some of Maynards lines may be tricky to land, they can be done. The end of push!t and Euglogy's chorus for example. Adam's tone can be nearly impossible to replicate, but to come close isn't too tough.

[Moses]

There's nothing hard about screaming. Maynard just used the wrong technique and had crapped his voice out for three weeks. Also getting a drummer for any Tool song is hard.

[Mr Herb]

Whyd maynard use the wrong technique? dumb bastard :lol:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Adam's tone can be nearly impossible to replicate, but to come close isn't too tough.

Darn straight. Unless you work a very well paying job, can get in touch with some rare suppliers, and have a girlfriend who mantains her legs well, you'll only come close.

[Mr Herb]

:lol::lol: Cam is very perdy.

[Syncratic]

Darn straight. Unless you work a very well paying job, can get in touch with some rare suppliers, and have a girlfriend who mantains her legs well, you'll only come close.

Does anybody know his complete effects setup?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Does anybody know his complete effects setup?

No, but I did find a great diary site off one of Adam's friends, which had pictures of his attic with ALL his pedals spread out everywhere. It showed some really odd htings, like school style ammeters and some old looking pedals that looked modded.

Trouble is, I dont think that site keeps entries uploaded for more than a month, so I cant even find the site now. Which is a shame.

[Mr Herb]

a comment on coldplay, i gotta say Chris Martin and the bassist, Guy Berryman or something like that are the most talented 2 on the whole band :)

[Syncratic]

Chris Martin is a narcissist and I'm not the biggest fan of his lyrics.

His voice? Not bad.

His dancing on the Speed of Sound video? ****ing ridiculous.

[Mr Herb]

Dunno, hes lyrics arent special, hes just mroe talented than their drummer and gutiarist at what he does. And the bassist, Id say hes the most talented in the bunch. A few of his lines have surprised me, not that they are hard. just simply more than I expect from such a popish band

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I always remember that, to celebrate the release of Parachutes, he went out and got singing lessons*.




*facts may not be entirely accurate)

[clearvision]

I always remember that, to celebrate the release of Parachutes, he went out and got singing lessons*.




*facts may not be entirely accurate)

Parachutes was there best record, they will never write a song better than shiver, the countermelodies and rhythms in that song are great.

[Mr Herb]

Yeah, parachtues had great songs like shiver, yellow, dont panic. The new cd has 1 or 2 decent songs

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Parachutes is great, I agree. They fully admitted after making it that they were sure they could never produce another album anywhere near that quality.

Yellow is still my favourite track.

[Mr Herb]

Yeah.

A rush of blood to the head wasnt bad really, clocks is easy and yeah repoetitive but I dunno, its a perdy special song

[clearvision]

ROBTTH was pants, i enjoyed the singles apart from god put a smile upon your face, and I also enjoyed green eyes, other than that it's pretty poor. X & Y has 1 good song, talk. That is all.

[TheSubtleArts]

I have the tool shirt that has a human heart behind the logo, its ace

I have that one too, my favorite shirt.

[Darkness]

Man... I want new Tool so bad right now... :(


Sorry.. just a random thought...

[magicaltrollII]

Don't we all...

[Syncratic]

Don't we all...

Did you have your account name changed?

[The Flabbit Rides High]

April is a long way....

Whens the DVD comin again?

[Huber]

April is a long way....

Whens the DVD comin again?

April?

[The Flabbit Rides High]

I thought the new date for the cd was April next year?!

Am I not in the know?!

[Adam Jones is GOD]

April?

Educated guess.

My tool lines have been quiet for a while now, I could do with a new update. :(

[Huber]

I thought the new date for the cd was April next year?!

Am I not in the know?!

Am I? I thought it was still being released something like later in the fall.

[The Flabbit Rides High]

(feels Goose-Chase-Fever)

I dont know what my name is.......

[Knifeboy]

Parachutes was there best record, they will never write a song better than shiver, the countermelodies and rhythms in that song are great.

So true...

There's nothing hard about screaming. Maynard just used the wrong technique and had crapped his voice out for three weeks. Also getting a drummer for any Tool song is hard.

Obviously Maynard knows how to scream, but I think he was literally pissed off when recording that song, and ended up just letting go, instead of doing it properly

[Darkness]

Yeah the man knows how to scream... look at The Grudge.

[Moses]

He went for a different approach for the Ticks and Leeches scream. If you scream correctly it shouldn't wreck your voice for three weeks. Also I believe The Grudge was recorded after Ticks and Leeches.

[Knifeboy]

Like I said, I just think he was litterally extremely pissed off recording that song.. It seems so sincere..
As far as I know, it's aimed at the recording industry

[Syncratic]

Nah...at the end of the recording process, the vocals for Ticks and Leeches were all that needed to be finished, and Maynard recorded it last of all, probably for the express purpose of not want to **** up any other tracks.

He purposely screamed like that, so........

[Moses]

Well the technique he was trying to emulate was done wrong. That scream is actually the easiest kind for me aside for the death growl. Also his voice isn't the strongest so that might have somthing to do with it.

[Syncratic]

Well, I've decided that I'm getting a Tabla Starter set for my birthday (which is soon, September 5, so mark your calenders). Also, a 2-book set on the basics of tabla.

When I get to know this instrument, I'll try and lay down some tabla tracks for Pu**** and Reflection, which I plan to do with only and acoustic guitar and a tabla drum, and my voice.

Should be fun! :thumb:

[BlindWriting]

Nice. Tabla are so awesome. I've been interested in getting a set but I'm saving up for a China cymbal.

[Syncratic]

The thing is, I have no background in percussion, so this will be an all new experience for me.

[Mr Herb]

ROBTTH was pants, i enjoyed the singles apart from god put a smile upon your face, and I also enjoyed green eyes, other than that it's pretty poor. X & Y has 1 good song, talk. That is all.


I like till kingdom come, speed of sound and square one of x&y, the rest is pretty much crap

[Futuro]

Nice. Tabla are so awesome. I've been interested in getting a set but I'm saving up for a China cymbal. i would go with the china ;)

[Mr Herb]

tabla thats awesome dude

[Huber]

I know there's The Mars Volta fans in here, so I thought I'd ask here:

I thought I'd delve into TMV so I got the album Frances The Mute. I downloaded from a Torrent and the files I got and the tracklisting are confusing me.

My tracks are labeled like this:

01-the_mars_volta-cygnus____vismund_cygnus-jrp
02-the_mars_volta-the_widow-jrp
03-the_mars_volta-lvia_lviaquez-jrp
04-the_mars_volta-miranda_that_ghost_just_isnt_holy_anymore-jrp
05-the_mars_volta-cassandra_geminni-jrp
06-the_mars_volta-tarantism-jrp
07-the_mars_volta-plant_a_nail_in_the_navel_stream-jrp
08-the_mars_volta-famine_pulse-jrp
09-the_mars_volta-pisacis_(phra-men-ma)-jrp
10-the_mars_volta-con_safo-jrp
11-the_mars_volta-multiple_spouse_wounds-jrp
12-the_mars_volta-sarchophagi-jrp

When I look at the tracklisting it's something different and odd. Can someone help me out?

1. Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus: Sarcophagi
2. Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus: Umbilical Syllables
3. Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus: Facilis Descenus Averni
4. Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus: Con Safo
5. Widow
6. Via l'Viaquez
7. Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Vade Mecum
8. Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Pour Another Icepick
9. Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Pisacis (Phra-Men-Ma)
10. Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Con Safo
11. Cassandra Geminni: Tarantism
12. Cassandra Geminni: Plant a Nail in the Navel Stream
13. Cassandra Geminni: Faminepulse
14. Cassandra Geminni: Multiple Spouse Wounds
15. Cassandra Geminni: Sarcophagi

That's what I get almost everywhere else.

[The Flabbit Rides High]

I know its really confusing, but tis worth it. That album rocks.

I also don't know the indiwidual names for the parts in cassandra geminni, but the fun part is, you can make it up! Its provided for you! :P

[Syncratic]

I figured out the tracklisting.....track 5 is the beginning of Cassandra Geminni...here's how I have it set up:

1. Cyngus.....Vismund Cyngus
2. The Widow
3. L'Via L'Viaquez
4. Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore
5. Cassandra Geminni: Tarantism
6. Cassandra Geminni: Tarantism Part 2
7. Cassandra Geminni: Plant A Nail in the Navel Stream
8 Cassandra Geminni: PANITNS Part 2
9. Cassandra Geminni: Faminepulse
10.Cassandra Geminni: Faminepuls Part 2
11.Cassandra Geminni: Multiple Spouse Wounds
12.Cassandra Geminni: Sarcophagi

I used to list it differently, and then, wilst looking at the lyrics, realized that CG started on track 5.

[Shadius]

Back to the topic of Radiohead and Coldplay and such. Chris Martin is good at writing catchy little pop songs, and thats it. He can write some catchy piano lines, and his voice has good range to sing melodies, even though he overuses a lot of melodic lines, IMO. Also, his lyrics are often extremely cliché and you can guess what the next word is gonna be in most songs. The rest of the band seem pretty bog standard, even the bassist, what lines are that good? Haha. (Having said this, I enjoy a good handful of their songs anyway)

Radiohead, well, personally I love The Bends, OK Computer and Kid A, and I like select songs from the other albums. I loved The Bends after my first listen, OK Computer took quite a few listens to "get" due to the arty nature, but now I enjoy every song on it. And Kid A took me relaxing with my girlfriend listening to it in bed to appreciate it more, for some reason. It's not what i'm used to, but it's a brilliant album too.

TMV? I've said it once and i'll say it again, FTM isn't THAT good an album. I've heard much better prog in King Crimson or even Tool's prog moments to name a couple. Deloused is much better. I mean, come on, listening to FTM, surely you get bored waiting for the good moments in the songs after a few listens to the album. The boring bits get more boring, and the wait for the good bits becomes increasingly pointless, in my experience. They're capable of better, I think. I found it completely unfocused, but to each their own.

[SmashingPumpkin]

Like I said, I just think he was litterally extremely pissed off recording that song.. It seems so sincere..
As far as I know, it's aimed at the recording industry
I always thought of it as the media in general.

[BlindWriting]

My tracks are labeled like this:

01-the_mars_volta-cygnus____vismund_cygnus-jrp
02-the_mars_volta-the_widow-jrp
03-the_mars_volta-lvia_lviaquez-jrp
04-the_mars_volta-miranda_that_ghost_just_isnt_holy_anymore-jrp
05-the_mars_volta-cassandra_geminni-jrp
06-the_mars_volta-tarantism-jrp
07-the_mars_volta-plant_a_nail_in_the_navel_stream-jrp
08-the_mars_volta-famine_pulse-jrp
09-the_mars_volta-pisacis_(phra-men-ma)-jrp
10-the_mars_volta-con_safo-jrp
11-the_mars_volta-multiple_spouse_wounds-jrp
12-the_mars_volta-sarchophagi-jrp


Think about it like this;

1. Cygnus... Vismund Cygnus
2. The Widow
3. L'Via L'Viaquez
4. Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore
5. Cassandra Gemini 1
6. Cassandra Gemini 2
7. Cassandra Gemini 3
8. Cassandra Gemini 4
9. Cassandra Gemini 5
10. Cassandra Gemini 6
11. Cassandra Gemini 7
12. Cassandra Gemini 8

Frances The Mute really shows how TMV is an album band. You're honestly better off saving yourself a ton of confusion and just buying the album. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, they're an amazing band, and FtM is one of my favorite CDs of all time.


1. Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus: Sarcophagi
2. Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus: Umbilical Syllables
3. Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus: Facilis Descenus Averni
4. Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus: Con Safo
5. Widow
6. Via l'Viaquez
7. Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Vade Mecum
8. Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Pour Another Icepick
9. Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Pisacis (Phra-Men-Ma)
10. Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Con Safo
11. Cassandra Geminni: Tarantism
12. Cassandra Geminni: Plant a Nail in the Navel Stream
13. Cassandra Geminni: Faminepulse
14. Cassandra Geminni: Multiple Spouse Wounds
15. Cassandra Geminni: Sarcophagi

That's what I get almost everywhere else.

These are the ACTUAL names of all the individual movements in each song. The only song on the album where the individual movements become tracks is Cassandra Gemini. (Except someone screwed it up and made it into eight tracks instead of five.)

[Syncratic]

I actually like FTM a little better than DitC, simply because I heard it first, though I really like De-Loused.

[Prince of Darkness]

I actually like FTM a little better than DitC, simply because I heard it first, though I really like De-Loused.

Maynard James Keenan, you'll make my heart stop, man. I thought it was the real MJK in here. Da.mn man, dont do that to me.... :upset: :lol: : :amaze:

[paganman7]

I like TMV, but I was a bit dissapointed with Frances the Mute. Deloused was such a fantastic album, so I suspect that my expectations were a bit high for Frances. That said, Frances is a good album, but Deloused is just extraordinary. Also, they catch some criticism of their live act, but I've got to say, I enjoy their live show; it's full of energy and very interactive. It's not my favorite live act, but it's nowhere near as horrid as some people would have you believe.

[TerryThorne]

Wait, why are we talking about TMV here?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Wait, why are we talking about TMV here?

Because there is very little Tool news to discuss.

This is more than a Tool thread, its a tool fan community

[Kage]

Because there is very little Tool news to discuss.

This is more than a Tool thread, its a tool fan community
The question still stands :p

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I cant answer why we're discussing TMV. They suck after all.

[Syncratic]

Maynard James Keenan, you'll make my heart stop, man. I thought it was the real MJK in here. Da.mn man, dont do that to me....

I used to be PageCobain....do you think that if MJK would be here, he would be THIS subtle?

I cant answer why we're discussing TMV. They suck after all.

Explain yourself.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Explain yourself.

My NIN one never clicked with enough people, so im re-trying here.

[Syncratic]

Ah, I get it.........

[BlindWriting]

I cant answer why we're discussing TMV. They suck after all.
WAT HAPPENED MAN U USED TO B COOLZ ROFLS

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Hey, China still cool! I mean, im still cool. Cool enough to be converting my front room into a poor mans recording studio tommorrow.

If all goes well, you'll be listening to me butchering all sorts of Tool songs

[BlindWriting]

Hey, China still cool! I mean, im still cool. Cool enough to be converting my front room into a poor mans recording studio tommorrow.

If all goes well, you'll be listening to me butchering all sorts of Tool songs
That's pretty cool. I've got a small set up in my room as well. Not recording, but to go along with my digital drumset, there's a guitar preamp, a headphone mixer, and a bass plug-in, so my band and I can play completely through headphones. This equipment is old stuff of my dad's back when he ran a private recording studio.

I'd love to be able to work in some recording so we could save the jams right into my computer.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Your parents must love you. Band jams with no noise.

I've dug out my old mic I was depending on for this recording, and man does it smell of cheapness. I might have to go out and buy another less cheaper one

[Kage]

The singer in my band's sister moved out of his house recently, and we completely emptied her room and converted it into a nice recording studio. His parents live in China now, so we jam there all the time.

[Moses]

I just need recording equipment and I'm set........

Yeah, that's kinda just saying that I don't have ****.

[Kurrpt]

SOOooooo whens the new album coming out?

any word as of yet?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I've got the next 2 weeks with the house to myself, so noise is no longer an issue (we have Trance/Drum&Bass lovers one side, and boy racers the other, some Napalm Death will set thing straight :D ), so im hoping a few friends will be up for actually learning an instrument.

Its sad being the only music playing man in my circle of friends :(

[Mr Herb]

****, I just came from school and I am so f u cking tired. Dont you guys ever go to school? yer all always posting:)

[Adam Jones is GOD]

****, I just came from school and I am so f u cking tired. Dont you guys ever go to school? yer all always posting:)

19 years old, 20 in 2 months = No school :cool:

But no full time job + incredibly boring town = More mx time

[Mr Herb]

Are you gonna study or something?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Are you gonna study or something?

No, im qualified as much as non university courses can make me.

Im on job hunt for a career one at the moment.

[Darkness]

****, I just came from school and I am so f u cking tired. Dont you guys ever go to school? yer all always posting:)
Summer holidays for me. :D

[Syncratic]

I'm on summer break until August 29th......ugh.......

[magicaltrollII]

The singer in my band's sister moved out of his house recently, and we completely emptied her room and converted it into a nice recording studio. His parents live in China now, so we jam there all the time.
Interesting...

[Mr Herb]

Well I jsut started school day and got a load of homework

[Animas Animosity]

haha i have a month left and im home alone all day with a sweet sterio listening to tool and apc all day

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

dude, that isn't much to brag about.

[Mr Herb]

yeah, if you hjad a girl friend or something along with you. . .then you could brag about something :p

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm on summer break until August 29th......ugh.......

123. I go back then as well. :upset:

So now that my grandparents are gone, and Marshall has recording capabilities again(!) what's on the list for covers?

I'm gonna record Shallow by Porcupine Tree some time soon, perhaps tomorrow. :-D

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Wow, everyone is getting a chance to record. Lets make the most of it these next 2 weeks

[Mr Herb]

sept me, I learned stinkfist completly but my mic is screwed up and so is my line and so is my 4th string :(

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ben, you can do Stinkfist, as the one I recorded sounds weak with the strings in the background. I'll do the bass. :eek: I know you want to, because it's your favorite Tool song to jam to, amirite?

w00t for octave pedals! :p

[Syncratic]

123. I go back then as well.

So now that my grandparents are gone, and Marshall has recording capabilities again(!) what's on the list for covers?

I'm gonna record Shallow by Porcupine Tree some time soon, perhaps tomorrow. :-D

Where do you go to school?

I'm in Central PA....

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Heh, straight across the country in Southeastern Washington. I used to live in Lancaster County, which is in PA. You know the place? It's where all the Amish folks live, in case you need a reference point. :p

[Syncratic]

I've been to Lancaster, I live in Cambria County....ever been to Patton?

Don't blame you, it's a huge ****ing drug farm.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I don't remember much about the place, as I only lived there when I was of the ages 2-4. How far, and in which direction is Patton in relation to Lancaster?

[Syncratic]

Northeast......about 186 miles (Google for God \m/).

[incubliss]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/Missdysphoria/2005_08_tool_vinyl.jpg

[Syncratic]

Is that Adam?

[Darkness]

Yeah thats him... man that thing looks sweet... I can't wait to get one...

[Mr Herb]

thats adam alright. I wonder how he got that pic. . .

[Kage]

Adam looks pretty awesome with the facial hair.

[Txus]

I have a doubt.....i saw a picture of maynard with his dog i think....well the thing is that some friend of mine told me it was maynard's pet so does anyone know the name of it? cause i would love to name mi chihuahua like maynard's pet.

[Mr Herb]

a cmon :lol: mayanrd is no God, **** his pets names

[Arrakakaka]

Man, Toolshed.down.net hasn't been updated in months, while Toolband gets updated every few days :lol:

[Daven]

true, i checked tool band today and it was updated today in the morning. While on tool shed the last news are about the new cd

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Adam looks pretty awesome with the facial hair.

You know I'd poke it.

...

The vinyl looks extremely kickarse. Maybe I'll steal my grandma's record player that she doesn't use. :-D

/digs deeper
1. Read his shirt; ROSWELL

2. What do you all make of the broken pentacle and square symbol in the corner? Probably nothing. :shrug:

NP: King Crimson- 21st Century Schizoid Man

[Darkness]

I was wondering what that thing is to... either way... the vinyl/vinyl case looks incredible.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I have a doubt.....i saw a picture of maynard with his dog i think....well the thing is that some friend of mine told me it was maynard's pet so does anyone know the name of it? cause i would love to name mi chihuahua like maynard's pet.

His Great Dane is named Eon. Just like the song.

[Futuro]

/digs deeper
1. Read his shirt; ROSWELL ahh this made me laugh, that is a skateboard company called "POWELL" that is there logo. good try though :)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Powell is still in business? Oh, crap, I thought their whole company fell through when Tony Hawk formed his own label. :p And here I thought I had stumbled upon something wicked.

I think I used to have a set of Powell ABEC-5 bearings on my skateboard. :cool:

[BlindWriting]

I wish he'd say where he found the picture.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Holy ****! I finally got a Primus album better than Frizzle Fry! Tales From the Punchbowl is a trippy/jam masterpiece.

[Moses]

I still need that.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I've yet to hear an entire Primus album. :-/ Any suggestions folks?

[Moses]

I'd say Frizzle Fry is the most likeable followed by Sailing the Seas of Cheese which is my favorite. I haven't heard Tales from the Punchbowl yet so I don't know how that goes. I actually suggest getting the Hallucinogenics DVD for some trippy post-rock type ambience that I know you would enjoy.

[A_Perfect_Tool]

Does anyone else here perfer the [Live]Pu**** from salival to the Ænema version?

[Kage]

I much prefer the Aenima version.

[Rounder]

I like them both they are so different it's like 2 different songs

[incubliss]

on the picture of Adam with the Lateralus vinyl, the half broken pentagram on the bottom right corner is the symbol of the toolarmy.

;)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Are you a member there, Incubliss? If not, how'd you stumble upon that? :p

I like the Salival version of Pushit, but the Ænima version is growing on me every time I listen to it.

[One Groovin Clown]

I like them both they are so different it's like 2 different songs

they're similar but yet completely differnt none the less. Overall i prefer the Aenima version of the song, but whenever i get a chance to hear the live version i love it. (I don't own Salival or any of the live songs :upset: )

[Rounder]

Guys ive been gone a while, any COMPLETED Tool songs posted yet, or is there serious slacking going on in this thread..

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Massive slacking, sadly. :p

Hey, i listened to your extended version of Stinkfist. Do you think you could tab out that extra riff that you put in there? I listened to it and was like "whoa, this owns!"

[Moses]

we need bass for lateralus and then it'll be done minus a few vocal touch ups.

[Rounder]

Massive slacking, sadly. :p

Hey, i listened to your extended version of Stinkfist. Do you think you could tab out that extra riff that you put in there? I listened to it and was like "whoa, this owns!"

Thats the live version

I cant really remember atm but it was something like this



--------------------------0------------------------------0----------------
-------------------0--2-------------------------------2------0-----------
-----2----2-----2------------repeat ------2-----2---------2------2-----2

and then just

---------------------------------------------
-0--2--0--3--0--2--0--3--0--2222--------------------------
-0--2--0--3--0--2--0--3--0--2222-------------------------


its probably wrong but its something like that.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'll be able to figure it out later, but right now, I'm learning Maiden's Aces High. :cool:

[Moses]

I'm learning The Trooper and I have it all down besides the solo which is pretty close.

The Trooper > Aces High but not by much. I saw Maiden at Ozzfest and they were ****ing amazing. I did a review entitled Ozzy Has a Six Pack.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

yeah, I saw that. :p Cool thread title. It rivals the one my friend started when Head left Korn, entitled "Jesus gives Korn HEAD"

Yeah, I'm finding everything to be fairly simple, except the solos. I've got the first solo down(I tap the middle part instead of picking) but the second one is really giving me troubles, with all of the pinch harmonics and wierd scaling. :-/ I've never heard The Trooper, would you mind uploading it, pretty please?

[Moses]

Gladly. It's my favorite Maiden song and my band is doing a cover of that with me playing guitar and singing at the same time which I don't usually do. I usually sing.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I've never really tried singing and playing at the same time. I did when I first started playing, and that turned out badly, but I should probably be able to pull it off now that I'm more expirienced.

[Moses]

I can do it but usually my singing is a little less controlled and it's also hard to do different rhythms while singing. The Trooper is kind of easy to play and sing though.

[disposition]

does anyone know what kind of amp or effect adam uses on the song triad? i have a multi-effect pedal but i can't emulate that type of distortion. oh and does he use a cry baby for his transitions?

[Moses]

Jeesus Christ YSI is being a bitch so I'll just let it sit because I have to wash my Mom's car.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

http://www.rapidshare.de

Try that or something if YSI is being crabby.

On Triad, it is rumored that he uses around 10 effect/synth pedals, and on the solo, he uses an Epilady. If you don't know what that is, it's used by women to basically yank the hair out of any unwanted hairy places. In other words, it's a poorman's E-bow. :lol: Give me a rundown of your rig, and I'll try and help you out, because I've grown accustomed to mastering the art of Jones' tone. :-D

Oh, and about singing/playing, I could probably do it if the guitar played the same melody as what was being sang, so that would rule out most Tool songs. Not that I have the vocal capacity to do so in the first place, but just thought I'd point that out.

And, are you the only guitar playing for your cover of The Trooper, or are you only playing because the song takes 2 parts?

[Moses]

Oh, and about singing/playing, I could probably do it if the guitar played the same melody as the guitar, so that would rule out most Tool songs. Not that I have the vocal capacity to do so in the first place, but just thought I'd point that out.
What?

[Mr Herb]

Does maynard use any effects on the gutiar he plays apart from distortion?