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[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah, because all Tool fans should have at least 200 huh Ken?!

I was halfway through the test when I got hungry.

Pizza>Mental strain


I Can See the Disheveled Look on Your Face-The Human Trap
hxxp://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1NYKXXY9BE11A2VTHHZ6W3W5VU

I uploaded this song, and it has nothing to do with Tool, but it may be of interest to you Tool fans as the song is a fairly complex tune. A friend of mine did it

[Knifeboy]

Hey Ken, will we be hearing any clips of Crutch soon?.. I want to know if I should go to bed now, or wait a little longer ;)



I Can See the Disheveled Look on Your Face-The Human Trap
hxxp://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1NYKXXY9BE11A2VTHHZ6W3W5VU

I uploaded this song, and it has nothing to do with Tool, but it may be of interest to you Tool fans as the song is a fairly complex tune. A friend of mine did it

Uh, that links to a file called "kissing the shadows.mp3".. .. :confused:

[SonorKen]

yea, you can check out some of our stuff on our MySpace account. The only thing that is recorded with the new bass player is "Snippits".

Remember ALL of this is literally being put together in the recordings and is more of a collection of ideas, none of this is in any way a completed song.

http://www.myspace.com/crutchonline


Some of the tom patterns won't make much sense as you can't hear the kick drums.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh crap. Lemme re-find the link. :-/

Your general IQ score is: 137

So, am I the smartest Toologist so far? :cool:

[Rothmans]

yea, you can check out some of our stuff on our MySpace account. The only thing that is recorded with the new bass player is "Snippits".

Remember ALL of this is literally being put together in the recordings and is more of a collection of ideas, none of this is in any way a completed song.

http://www.myspace.com/crutchonline


Some of the tom patterns won't make much sense as you can't hear the kick drums.


Awww sethy thanks :p

Seriously man thanks I have wanted to hear you guys.

[Moses]

It depends where you take it. My girlfriend got 126 on this one thing but her real IQ is like 135 and mine on that quiz was like 128.

Ken I just sent a friend request to you band's myspace. You guys sound good even for that quality and Seth has a really Aenima-era Maynard voice.

[Knifeboy]

I can't wait to hear your full songs Ken.. And in better quality.. Those clips show potential!

[Dude3]

Crutch sounded awesome, and I added you guys. Your guitar player is named Maynard? I'm assuming its a nickname.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

hxxp://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=21W44E0BPB42T2LBJYAXJE6GX6

Knifeboy/everyone else, that should work out better for ya. :thumb:

Ken, that may also be of interest for you, as he is a very competent musician that may actually have a chance at making something of his music. I'll try to locate his myspace, where you can get 2 more songs.

http://myspace.com/humantrap

There you are.

[SonorKen]

Nope, thats his name haha, pretty cool!

[Knifeboy]

Jake, that was a really cool track.. Especially the intro.. And when that riff kicks in.. Wow

[Dude3]

Nope, thats his name haha, pretty cool!
Awesome. What a coincidence too.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah, I can't wait until he finishes up his next album/EP some time next week. He says it's going to be influenced by Porcupine Tree! :eek:

[Moses]

Now that I think about it Ken your singer sound alot like Aaron Lewis except less monotonous.

[Mr Herb]

I got 125, not fair. some words in there I didnt know the meaning off :(

[SonorKen]

Now that I think about it Ken your singer sound alot like Aaron Lewis except less monotonous.

Yea, he gets that alot as well. He is compared to Maynard more than anyone. Check this review of him out.

http://www.thevoiceconnection.com/sethkelleylink.html

[Rothmans]

Yea, he gets that alot as well. He is compared to Maynard more than anyone. Check this review of him out.

http://www.thevoiceconnection.com/sethkelleylink.html

That is cool

Makes me wish I could properlly sing :upset:

[Mr Herb]

da, ken. The first my space clip sounds awesome.

vocalist is a mix of maynard and aroon lewis and then intruments just go along really welll. ...i woudnt mind hearing that on a whole cd. . . good job!

[SonorKen]

He recently joined MX. You guys should talk to him about doing the vocals for your projects. His name on here is breakyourcrutch

[SonorKen]

da, ken. The first my space clip sounds awesome.

vocalist is a mix of maynard and aroon lewis and then intruments just go along really welll. ...i woudnt mind hearing that on a whole cd. . . good job!

Check em all out man, the last one is my favorite. You can really hear some of the phenominal stuff Zach is doing. This is the part where the drum tracks sound kinda goofy cus ya can't hear the kicks.

[Mr Herb]

Does he come in often? Imagine him doing all the stuff missing on vocals!

[SonorKen]

He logs on occasionally. He usually just kinda lurks around and doesn't post. He would probably do all the vocal stuff. I'll have him check out this thread.

[Mr Herb]

The rest of the clips are good too. So much vocal talent should not be put to waste!

[breakyourCrutch]

Hey everybody- thanks for all the props and comparisons, I'mn totally flattered. We'll have some new stuff up on our myspace site really soon. You can check it out if you havent already at www.myspace.com/crutchonline. Thanks again, and keep checking back!

Seth

[ATM]

Pretty cool stuff. You've got a great range, dude.

[Darkness]

Yeah man, your awesome. Your whole band is actually..

[SonorKen]

I forgot what his octave range is, its either 4.5 or 6. Its very similiar to Maynards. I believe Maynards is 5. Anyone know for a fact what it is? Also, Seth's vocal coach was the guy on MythBusters who can actually shatter a glass with his natural voice!

[ATM]

:eek:

That's awesome.

I wish I could sing :-/

[Mr Herb]

Mind doing cover work for us sethh?

[Rothmans]

I just listend to the stuff I am a bit impressed you have something really going there.

I got 105 on my IQtest dont know to be happy or sad.

I feel like a bit of a fool and anyway it is 5 o clock in the morning.

Do I strike people as a dumb person?

[Mr Herb]

go to sleep dude! Id probably get 100 at 5 am, were do you live?

[breakyourCrutch]

Once again thanks for all the compliments, we greatly appreciate them. We just hope you all stick with us til we can actually get the ball rolling since things have been at a CRAWL for the last 6 months, but it'll come around very soon.

My octave range is actually just above 4....but vocally I am severely out of shape right now. I'm getting some big headaches after roughly 45 minutes of singing due to the resonance of my voice in my head, but the more I work the longer I can go....so it's time to get working

[breakyourCrutch]

Mind doing cover work for us sethh?
Yea I'll do a cover for you guys, what's your pick?

[Rothmans]

go to sleep dude! Id probably get 100 at 5 am, were do you live?


Ireland.

Where I live though Drugtown (arklow)

[SonorKen]

If you want to put vocals to their Tool covers we could probably do it with the VS1680. Course we gotta remember/learn how to use the **** thing.

[breakyourCrutch]

Remember? you mean learn right? lol

[Mr Herb]

Well erm, AM not actually surewich songs need vocals, Lets wait till Jake or someone tells us wich songs need vocals:)

[SonorKen]

Remember? you mean learn right? lol
hahaha nah, I have actually used it a LITTLE. But that was 2 years ago and Boo was working it with me haha.

[Mr Herb]

Ireland.

Where I live though Drugtown (arklow)


Thats cool. why drugtown?

[Rothmans]

Thats cool. why drugtown?


Well its pretty small and full of drugs DRUGS ARE EVERYWHERE.

There is alot of heroin users and you can get drugs pretty much anywhere and harder drugs if you know the right people.

[BlindWriting]

Crap. I leave for a few hours and I miss great late night Tool thread conversation.

[Mr Herb]

well thats not really cool. :lol:

Some ppl here seem to live on tough places, Contrary to most band boards ive visited before. Everyone in them seems to live in quit rural towns on the states. interesting

[SonorKen]

^^^^ read and catch up!

[Rothmans]

well thats not really cool. :lol:

Some ppl here seem to live on tough places, Contrary to most band boards ive visited before. Everyone in them seems to live in quit rural towns on the states. interesting


I am pretty upper class hey we own the most famous pub in Ireland I just hang around with a few low lifes thats all.

Which kinda makes me a low life :upset:

[SonorKen]

well thats not really cool. :lol:

Some ppl here seem to live on tough places, Contrary to most band boards ive visited before. Everyone in them seems to live in quit rural towns on the states. interesting
Do you think its that or the fact that alot of musicians seem to be in places where drugs are more prevalent? More of a coincidence of location vs monetary geography.

[BlindWriting]

^^^^ read and catch up!
I did. That's why I wish I hadn't missed it!

[Mr Herb]

no :lol:. Maybe you dont like the upper class, wich usually is full of arrogant bastards( am not saying your family is like that)

[Rothmans]

I actually cant tell my friends what music I have a strong passion for main reason getting beat up or stabbed when there high I just listen to some dance music other friends though I am in a ban with so its all good.

no :lol:. Maybe you dont like the upper class, wich usually is full of arrogant bastards( am not saying your family is like that)

Were not though. Thats the strange thing

[Mr Herb]

Do you think its that or the fact that alot of musicians seem to be in places where drugs are more prevalent? More of a coincidence of location vs monetary geography.
lol what?

muscians really come from every were. Take tool from LA, staind from some small town I dont remeber were and tons of other bands from weird places.


Drugs are really everywere now days:(

[BlindWriting]

Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does by freedom.

Money buys drugs, too.

[Mr Herb]

Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does by freedom.

Freedom. We have to much of it really

[Mr Herb]

I actually cant tell my friends what music I have a strong passion for main reason getting beat up or stabbed when there high I just listen to some dance music other friends though I am in a ban with so its all good.



Were not though. Thats the strange thing


lol then why do you prefer the dudes from lower clases? not that its bad

[SonorKen]

lol what?

muscians really come from every were. Take tool from LA, staind from some small town I dont remeber were and tons of other bands from weird places.


Drugs are really everywere now days:(
I agree they come from everywhere. I also believe that you can put yourself in a social situation that will make drug use and availability more common.

I think musicians tend to fall into this category more than most. Even if your drug free you will still be around it. Seth and I are in 2 bands together. When we formed Crutch we made a conscious effort to find people who were drug free. We didn't want the hassle of people getting high, not showing up or screwing off getting high during practice and everything we have both had happen to us with drug user band mates.

The other band were in has some mild drug use in it. It doesn't really ever cause a problem but we are around it none the less. It is mainly the last sound engineer we had. He would get all wasted and then decide he wanted to tell us how to play and what we needed to change. We fired him and thought we were done with him. We show up at a venue to play a few weeks ago and BOOM, he is the venues sound engineer. Of course he stayed wasted all night.

It took us a while to find the perfect people but we did it.

[Mr Herb]

I agree, drug free muscians are way more reliable for starting bands like yours.

My 16 yr old guitarist got so high 2 weeks ago we coudnt play a live show were supposed to do at ben and jerys. Dam! he did get a lot of **** for that, hopefully he wont do it again:)

[Dude3]

Yeah, drugs are everywhere. Big cities, and in the country.
I live in the suburbs of Tampa, I guess you could say. Some very nice communities(ranch houses, mansions), and some more country parts(rednecks/trailers). Luckily I live in the nicer area.

Anyways, drugs are very prevalent here. Why? Because this area is boring. I haven't touched drugs, but was talking to a friend who does. He really made things make sense, and made me realize how boring our lives are. That's why I have music and guitar to keep me motivated not to become a full out stoner. He also made me realize how many people do drugs, that I never would've known had. Apparently, weed and shrooms are the real popular ones here.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Seth- Glad to see you posting here. Here are a few links to what we need vocals on.

Part of Me
Lateralus
Stinkfist

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/thelachrymologists_music.htm

They call all be downloaded there. They aren't full insturmentals yet. Part of Me is only my guitar part, but we have drums, they've just not been uploaded yet. Lateralus has a drum track, and we've got the guitars coming. Stinkfist has my guitar track, which is out of time, and a good drum track. If you have AIM, add DrJakeDestructo, or on msn you can reach me at spiralout7 @ gmail.com.

[Mr Herb]

One can get a weekends worth of weed for 10 bucks here in the capital.

Its not like there is nothing else to do, I got out a lot and never resort to smoking and drinking. its jsut that paretns these days suck!

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

wtf, you were playing at a Ben and Jerry's? As in the ice cream parlor? :confused:

[Moses]

Drugs just make things worse. My whole band is drug free but we just have a problem with getting together since we're all busy musicians on our own time and our drummer lives like way the hell out there. Anyway yeah, when we do get together, though, it's like magic.

[Mr Herb]

yes lol. The local ben and jerrys has an open mkic night every wednsday. :)


My singer was stoned to death too but he actually likes to sing when stoned. bastards!

[Moses]

I forgot what his octave range is, its either 4.5 or 6. Its very similiar to Maynards. I believe Maynards is 5. Anyone know for a fact what it is? Also, Seth's vocal coach was the guy on MythBusters who can actually shatter a glass with his natural voice!
Wow that's really cool.

Maynard has nowhere near 5 octaves. That's like Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

When I had just started out on guitar last year, I jammed with that guy who I posted a song of and basically blew any chance of ever doing it again, mainly because I was basically worthless at the time. :p I ask him every once in a while if he has any free time to jam, but he's always busy. Funny thing is when I don't ask him, he's always bored out of his mind!


:upset:

Oh, and I think Maynard has at most 3 or 3.5. :confused: Guitars have 4, and that's an extreme sound going from the open low E to the 24 fret on the high E string.

[Moses]

Just wait for him to say he's bored.

[SonorKen]

Back on the whole Tool theme. I am listening to Eulogy right now, hae you noticed how Carey's snare strikes differ from one another. The majority of them are direct center of snare strikes but there are a few that are not and sound different. I think this shows alot about musicianship and them not having producers pro-tooling the crap out of their recordings.

Listen to the snare strikes in Eulogy, you'll see what Im talking about. I think it adds alot of character to the song.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Surprisingly, I have noticed that on Eulogy. Carey's playing has really shown me just how dynamic drums are, and how hard it is do control them.

Do you throw in little things like that in your playing, Ken?

[Mr Herb]

The same thing happens with the snare on schism, check out the verses for what I mean

[SubConSciOusFeer]

speaking of eulogy, i wonder whose playing wat sounds in the beggining, especially that glass tapping, man that gets implanted in your brain

[SonorKen]

Oh, and I think Maynard has at most 3 or 3.5. :confused: Guitars have 4, and that's an extreme sound going from the open low E to the 24 fret on the high E string.

Hmmm thats pretty cool then that Seth has right above 4.

[Moses]

I hear it.... I never noticed it before but, yeah.

'Bout the snare that is.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Is Danny doing that entire polyrythm during the intro of Eulogy? I can only play the first part with 2 hands. :p I think that part is coming through the left ear, then the more metallic sounding object comes in through the right. they could be both panned on center, but I think they're panned to each ear..

[BlindWriting]

Listen to the snare strikes in Eulogy, you'll see what Im talking about. I think it adds alot of character to the song.
I think he exemplifies that with his stuff in Volto.

[SubConSciOusFeer]

ok people, if you had to pick one tool song as your favorite, for watever reason, which one would it be? as a beggining bass player, my favorite is schism, because its quite a challenge to play. now that i think about it, it is really hard to chose one song as a favorite. Tool just has so many good songs, and heck, their all challenging in bass

[Moses]

Can't even tell you how many times we've done that SubCOnsciousFeer.

[Mr Herb]

yeah. ive been playing for a year and am still working on schism, mainly cause I dont have bass effects:(

[Moses]

Danny does some cool hip-hop stuff in Eulogy.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Did you ever look for a BP pedal, Herb?

Moses- That is one of my favorite parts of Aenima. "You claimed that all this time you would die for me."

I assume you're talking about that part, right?

[SubConSciOusFeer]

i really want to get a wammy pedal, since when justin uses it, it sounds so cool

[SonorKen]

Surprisingly, I have noticed that on Eulogy. Carey's playing has really shown me just how dynamic drums are, and how hard it is do control them.

Do you throw in little things like that in your playing, Ken?
I don't think Carey intentionally did that tho. I tend to play more ghost notes than Carey does. I love accenting drum fills with small little ghost notes. I tend to try to write drum patterns in odd patterns. The first song on the myspace account is actually wrote around patterns of 3. It has a very odd time signature which changes from measure to measure. I need to sit down and solidify the drum track for that song but havent had the time. When I get back from the beach I plan to spend quite a bit of time in our studio working on perfecting the drum tracks.

[Mr Herb]

Did you ever look for a BP pedal, Herb?

Moses- That is one of my favorite parts of Aenima. "You claimed that all this time you would die for me."

I assume you're talking about that part, right?
Ye but they are just to pricy. Am short on cash on the moment too. Am gonna save up for a pedal I saw on muscicians friend

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'd rather have a chorus pedal if I played bass. It seems more used in Justin's playing.

Ken- Yeah, those kinds of things are what make good drummers great. See Meshuggah's Stengah for some great, layered drumming. Sure, the drumming is amazing enough, but when you really concentrate on the drumming, you can hear these ghosts on the snare. Haake does that quite a bit, probably one of the reasons he is considered one of the genres great drummers.

Oh geeze, more Meshuggah talk. :rolleyes:

[SonorKen]

Is Danny doing that entire polyrythm during the intro of Eulogy? I can only play the first part with 2 hands. :p I think that part is coming through the left ear, then the more metallic sounding object comes in through the right. they could be both panned on center, but I think they're panned to each ear..

Thats a difficult question to answer. Alot of it is patterns that he has put together in strings to run together. Some of the actual patterns that he plays are with the Roland Handsonic. The Handsonic is phenominal because it will allow you to play up to 10 to 12 different rhythms at one time. You use all 10 of your fingers and your feet. I believe the majority of the intro to this is all strung out in (man, I am having a brain fart, I can't think of the word for a string of pre-arranged music) strings or pre-arranged music that he triggers the beginning and end.

If you listen to the recording you will hear the tabla type beats continue. This could be done as overdubbing in the studio but I have heard it played live and it is identical to the recording. He was playing the Handsonic when I saw them live in 92.

[Moses]

Did you ever look for a BP pedal, Herb?

Moses- That is one of my favorite parts of Aenima. "You claimed that all this time you would die for me."

I assume you're talking about that part, right?
Yeah, that and a couple others.

I'm doing the polyrhythm right now with my foot as the cymbal type part. On my computer desk of course.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh, yeah yeah, that's right. I remember hearing about that Handsonic. Are you thinking of the word loop? :p So, when he plays it live, he just puts the Handsonic on a loop?

Ok, I know I'm the usually the resident tone whore around here, but I have been stumped- The intro of H.? How the hell does he get such a 'wet' tone? I'm talking about before the clean part, the very first riff played. It sounds like a different amp, or a fuzz/grunge pedal of some sort?

[Mr Herb]

Am gonna get a pedal with pretty much all needed.

Dont you ****ing lie! High points of aenima!

[SonorKen]

I'd rather have a chorus pedal if I played bass. It seems more used in Justin's playing.

Ken- Yeah, those kinds of things are what make good drummers great. See Meshuggah's Stengah for some great, layered drumming. Sure, the drumming is amazing enough, but when you really concentrate on the drumming, you can hear these ghosts on the snare. Haake does that quite a bit, probably one of the reasons he is considered one of the genres great drummers.

Oh geeze, more Meshuggah talk. :rolleyes:

THe thing I love about ghost notes are they are actually felt and not heard when played properly. You know something was played, you feel it, but you didn't hear it. When I do my sound check before a show I always make sure my sound engineer sets up my snare for Ghost notes.

[breakyourCrutch]

mariah carey has 7. Jim gillette has the most with 8

[SonorKen]

Oh, yeah yeah, that's right. I remember hearing about that Handsonic. Are you thinking of the word loop? :p So, when he plays it live, he just puts the Handsonic on a loop?
hahahaha yea, loops! My god. There is another word for it too, I use it in my Roland gear!

I plan to use my SPDS to create and run some of my major loops and use the D-beam controller on the Handsonic to start and stop some of the more laid back drum beats. I have always wanted a Handsonic but couldnt ever really justify buying one. Now that Crutch is poised to take off huge I can justify spending the 1000 bucks for one!

[Moses]

Nice avatar Ken. That's a cool design.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Seth- Glad to see you posting here. Here are a few links to what we need vocals on.

Part of Me
Lateralus
Stinkfist

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/thelachrymologists_music.htm

They call all be downloaded there. They aren't full insturmentals yet. Part of Me is only my guitar part, but we have drums, they've just not been uploaded yet. Lateralus has a drum track, and we've got the guitars coming. Stinkfist has my guitar track, which is out of time, and a good drum track. If you have AIM, add DrJakeDestructo, or on msn you can reach me at spiralout7 @ gmail.com.

Bump'd for Seth.

7 octaves, holy christ. :amaze: She does have that wierd whine thing though. :-/ Still extremely impressive.

[Moses]

mariah carey has 7. Jim gillette has the most with 8
Well not counting those squeaking notes she should have 5 am I right? I only hear Maynard use about 2 or 3 but with excellent control. Tarja from Nightwish has only two but has amazing control.

[breakyourCrutch]

lol thanks man

[breakyourCrutch]

Probably but believe it or not, falsetto notes do count

[SonorKen]

mariah carey has 7. Jim gillette has the most with 8
Are you more comfortable in one octave or another or are they all equally easy to sing within? Does this question even make sense? haha

Also, can you train yourself to perfect these octaves and reach others?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

:lol: Yes, those are what I was talking about. She's the Zakk Wylde of vocalists. Master of pinch harmonics.

Oh, and does anyone else hear the similarities between Useful Idiot and the wierd sampling near the end of Pushit?

[breakyourCrutch]

well I'm more of a mid-upper range kinda guy myself....octaves 3 and 4 are my strongest

[Moses]

If my band started getting anywhere I'd pay for vocal lessons but right now I have to settle for online tips and lessons like on MX. I'm a mid-upper guy too.

Madey that'd be eleven octaves.

[SonorKen]

Nice avatar Ken. That's a cool design.
hahaha that is something that Seth and I created. It is kinda how we view the world, universe, spirituality. Every part of the design means something. Well probably put it on our first t-shirts or album cover or something.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Well, singing range and actual vocal range are totally different things. I can probably sing perfectly in about 1.5 octaves, but I can hit notes (la la la) in about 2.5 to 3 octaves.

Seth- See the post second from the top on this page, please

Thx.

[Moses]

Heh, I still have to redo the 46 and 2. Atleast the rough spots.

[breakyourCrutch]

gotcha
thanks yo

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You're gonna redo it? Not happy with it, or what?

[breakyourCrutch]

going to bed, later people! Thanks again,talk to you tomorrow

Seth

[Moses]

Most parts were fine but some were really shitty.

[Mr Herb]

Why wonder how many notes and how perfect I can think. someone chek the out the dont panic cover, it has my vocals :cool:

I suck btw

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/theherbals_music.htm

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think that for the first time in the period of time I've liked Tool, I'm actually liking Ænima more than Lateralus.

:confused:

Interesting feeling this is. :p

[Moses]

I don't know why but I just feel Lateralus is alot darker than the rest. So far the only one to agree with me was Kage but he's been in and out like once in the last few weeks.

[Dude3]

I don't know why but I just feel Lateralus is alot darker than the rest. So far the only one to agree with me was Kage but he's been in and out like once in the last few weeks.
I agree with you.

[Mr Herb]

The patient's emotion just does lateralus for me

[Moses]

Awesome someone agrees with me!!

[SonorKen]

The patient's emotion just does lateralus for me
WOW, that is weird, thats the exact song I am listening too hahaha. We should all decide on a night, start all the cds at the same time and discuss them while they play. We should do it on chat tho.

[Mr Herb]

Also lateralus dsnt have songs like jimmy wich I cant really stand :-/

good night peeps


above: ye or on one big msn convo.

streetsoldier_249@hotmail.com my msn just cause i feel like whoring it :)

[SonorKen]

Lateralus is definiatly alot darker than Aenema. Aenema is still my favorite CD of thiers, with Salival coming in 2nd. Aenema creates so many sound scapes and seems so raw. Lateralus seems alot more powerful and dark, it seems to have the most energy of any of their recordings.

We would have to do it on AIM, my MSN is dicked up and I don't wanna mess with it. Im about to go to bed tonight, we should actually make plans for it so we could get alot of members involved with it.

[Moses]

It's just that alot of people say Undertow is the darkest and I think that's just because of the album art. If you don't count that it has some of the happiest riffs Tool has ever recorded.

We should have like a weekly conversation or somthing.

[Mr Herb]

undertow= raw and dark
Laterlus= dark and emotional


undertow had emotions too, mostly anger but you get what I mean right?


dam i dont have aim

good night

[Moses]

I don't think Undertow was all that dark in my opinion. Some parts of it are and sound like you're being corrupted via headphones but aside from a few of those parts I'd say it's the album with the lightest aura.

[Dude3]

Yeah, we should have a chat. Maybe an AOL buddy chat thing?

Whatever, I'm going to sleep. Here's my AIM for the hell of it: Crazynessdude3

Good Night!

[SonorKen]

Yea, Im out for the night too. Everyone think about starting a weekly or bi-weekly chat session. You can call it Tool related or whatever, it seems were more of a group of people who have the same ideas and found each other through a band.

[BlindWriting]

That's actually a pretty great idea. AIM Tool community chat.

I just have to finish listening to "Stranger By The Minute" by Porcupine Tree and then "The Glass Prison" by Dream Theater, and I'm off to bed.

[Moses]

Chats **** up my comp really bad but hopefully we can have some good discussion in there so it'll be worth it.

[jensmatty]

Thats a difficult question to answer. Alot of it is patterns that he has put together in strings to run together. Some of the actual patterns that he plays are with the Roland Handsonic. The Handsonic is phenominal because it will allow you to play up to 10 to 12 different rhythms at one time. You use all 10 of your fingers and your feet. I believe the majority of the intro to this is all strung out in (man, I am having a brain fart, I can't think of the word for a string of pre-arranged music) strings or pre-arranged music that he triggers the beginning and end.

If you listen to the recording you will hear the tabla type beats continue. This could be done as overdubbing in the studio but I have heard it played live and it is identical to the recording. He was playing the Handsonic when I saw them live in 92.

This post is a bit outdated but I'd like to give my input on it... I tried to score out the intro to Eulogy and I actually noticed that a way he could play it is the first sound u hear at the very beginning is just a repeating sample, and he plays the shaker/cabasa sample and any cymbal hits with his hi-hat hand, and the "ting" sound in 3's over that with his snare hand (im left handed so I'm not being specific about which hand it is) and then his snare hand plays the clicking/popping... I've got a score of it on one of my computers, so if I can I'll put it up to show what I mean.

[clearvision]

Soo time to catch up after the fellows across the pond went for about 10 pages :upset:

Jake - Beats my IQ by about 7 or 9, i can't remember. Hehe GG

Crutch - Sound really good, i wanna hear you in a proper studio, not live, with the drums mixed up properly *drool*. Pretty interesting that I'm gonna be the first person to comment on stinkfist at the end of snippets :p. It's just a shame you cut off just before the pre-chorus :(

Seth (I think) - Your vocals are **** hot. It would be great if you could laydown some vocals for Lateralus, and mebbe stinkfist/part of me if they get finished.

Jake #2 (I'm counting you as the organiser of the covers:p) - Numbers, Chris, 3074326, whatever you like to call him. Posted his guitar work earlier, but the link got banned super-quick. He said contact him on aim for it.

Aenima/Lateralus darkness debate - I'd say aenima is darker, it deals with stronger subject matter imo, and songs like push!t, third eye and Jimmy create a realy dark and brooding atmosphere. Whereas tracks on Lateralus are slightly lighter, the patient, parabol/a, schism. Though D/R/T can send you to pretty dark places.

That should do it...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

^^ That saves me from reading back properly. I can skim now and catch up.

[clearvision]

^^ That saves me from reading back properly. I can skim now and catch up.

Pshh it's your turn tomorrow.

And i only did it because my mum kicked me out of bed to early and i have nothing to do before my driving lesson.

Wet roads \m/

[Syncratic]

I believe there already is a Tool Chat. I saw it on the Tool Group on MySpace. I don't know much about it, so.....

[Adam Jones is GOD]

This is the only tool chat I need right here. Any other tool specific sites /chats rooms on the net are fully of fan boys and morons

[G_Mac07]

^ Your the guy who wanted Bill Hicks and RATM stuff. Two Bill Hicks albums were uploaded here not long ago, I think the links may still be valid. I suggest you look for them. I'll send you the rest of the stuff when I see you on AIM.

g mac07mx

EDIT: to MJK

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Off topic,and not even in the right place but G mac, are you the guy that talks up Cog alot?

[G_Mac07]

That would be me. If your interested in hearing them I answered a request in R&M YSI earlier today. :)

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Ohh, I actually really like them, i just thought i would tell you some of my good news involving them. I was looking through my local paper the other day i found an ad in there saying that Cog are playing at a club in my town next month. I was so excited as i have never seen them and my town is crap and NEVER has good bands here. Its the Country Music Capital of Australia,lol. But yeah, me is excited to see Cog next month for $22. Also, Shihad are also playing, my guess is that Cog will open for Shihad,so i plan to walk out on them and try and catch up for a chat with Cog. That would rule.

[G_Mac07]

Haha, ok, Cog are awesome live. I have tickets to the Brisbane show. They are also really cool guys, I met them an at instore. I played it smart though, and waited at the end of the line before getting my stuff signed, and then discussed the braille on the album with Flynn. Also, try mentioning Isis to Lucius, the drummer, it I talked to him about music for a good 10 minutes after that. (Isis are his favourite artists). :thumb:

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Sweet, thanks for the tip. Im really excited for the show, i have NIN on the 20th then Cog on the 25th, should be awesome.

[G_Mac07]

Heh, I have Cog on the 19th and NIN on the 22nd.

/is uploading two Bill Hicks albums which will be posted here

[SonorKen]

Ahhh sweet, I'll definiatly dl the Hicks albums, all I have are some individual stand up bits.

Thanks for the compliments on Crutch. Not to brag but the recordings really don't do us justice. You can't hear Seths full potential, ya can't hear the hi-hat patterns, the kick drums or the killer bass rhythms. Im really looking forward to hitting the studio and nailing out a demo cd to get some radio airtime.

[G_Mac07]

Bill Hicks - Arizona Bay (http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ROMHAE7C35JD02B6VWQ6F5ANX)
Bill Hicks - Dangerous (http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=09YMGZOQ24P3I1BF0CI0CRI9HW)
Rage Against the Machine - Self Titled (http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0PFD2QPIDGPSR0M4BLXURIJDBK)

I also uploaded the RATM album earlier tonight, so if anyone doesn't have it, download it now. Otherwise, enjoy :)

[Syncratic]

Thanks, G Mac, it worked.....\m/

I just uploaded Mesuggah-I, but I can't listen to it at the moment, gotta wait until my sister is out of the shower, I'll take one, and then I'll listen to it.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

hxxp://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13JI1W9XFB5BR2DUGMOMLTSF0J

Bit late now, but thats my sample track of I. Its only over a minute long, and gives you a good idea of the track.

Though I guess everyone has it in this thread now

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Bob- :lol:@ 7 or 9. I saw the upload, and I'd get it from him over AIM, but it would take probably 2 hours to get. :-/ I'll ask him to upload it again, but also to not link directly.

[clearvision]

Well..i reviewed but didn't rmember the figure, it was either 137 or 139...

[Darkness]

We should do that thing where we listen to all the albums at the same time then discuss them... That'd be sweet. Plus I could cheat and get a chance to listen to Tool again... hehe...

[SonorKen]

^^^ I agree, I think it would be interesting to listen to the albums and see how other people react to certain parts of the songs. Maybe we can plan to do this Thursday evening some time, this will give us several days to organize it.

[Darkness]

Please not Thursday! I'm at Sounds of the Underground all day...

[clearvision]

Will the english folk have to be sitting here at 3 in the morning?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Please not Thursday! I'm at Sounds of the Underground all day...

All the more reason to then, lucky sod.

Best make sure Opeth are on good form for September

[Darkness]

If you don't, it may be a bit early for some of us... (to clearvision)

To Ben : Oh, I will.

[SonorKen]

hahaha well, I work tues night, wed night, and Im leaving for the beach friday night!

I would say we all meet thursday night at 10 or 11pm EST. We would just set up a mx chat room and start off on Aenema or whatever the majority of people have. If we decide on a cd now those that don't own it could purchase it before Thursday.

[clearvision]

But i was struggling yesterday doing IQ tests at half 11 :( I need my beauty sleep.

[clearvision]

Or you could screen a band, by uploading the album, using pod casts maybe (though i'm not too familiar with them). And people could comment, but you could start with something by tool to get it to work. Wether i participate depends on if i can get sleep beforehand/stay awake.

[Darkness]

:upset: Ah well... I'll have to miss it this time..

[SonorKen]

Majority rules, whenever the most people can be on is when we should do it. This sounds like someone needs to take charge of it and organize it haha.

[Darkness]

Alright lets all vote on a day within the next week, I vote any day but Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday. :D

[clearvision]

Not nominating yourself Ken?

Woo free house tomorrow, If i can track down some batteries i should be able to record Eulogy and Aenima vocals :)

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Not nominating yourself Ken?

Woo free house tomorrow, If i can track down some batteries i should be able to record Eulogy and Aenima vocals :)

And on that note, i've found the webcam that came with my computer. It has a mic, and because it runs off USB, it actually records! So ill take advantage of the next free day I get home alone

[SonorKen]

No, Im definiatly not going to have anything to do with organizing this. This part of the forum is the only part I feel like Im an actual user, the last thing I want is to organize this. I vote for Thursday, 10 pm to 1am EST.

[clearvision]

W00t for AJIG recordings, I will hopefully buy a bass today, so i will pwn you all with my skillz.

And i wont have to wait for JoZ to record aenima for me :p, I will fruity loop the drums, then rob = pwner.

If you make it a little later i could getout of bed for this chat thing, lol.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

What drum pack do you use for FL rob? I can never find a good realistic one, although I think actually being good with the program would help.

[Rothmans]

I am up for this AIM thing I am MxRothmans

[clearvision]

What drum pack do you use for FL rob? I can never find a good realistic one, although I think actually being good with the program would help.

I haven't started using it yet, my mate uses the standard ones and it sounds good. I have no clue on how to go about using the program, but it shouldn't be too difficult lol. Only problem is I'm not gonn ahve my bass in time for the cover competition i don't think.

Drumkit from hell is meant to be something special though...I think dancing man uses that, i'll hit him up next time he is on slsk/aim.

[SonorKen]

Seth and I play Aenema quite a bit. When I get back from the beach well hit the studio and get some of this stuff recorded.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Drumkit from hell is meant to be something special though...I think dancing man uses that, i'll hit him up next time he is on slsk/aim.

Yeah, I asked about that before, but I couldnt sway him to upload/send it. See if you're powers are better than mine

[clearvision]

Yeah, I asked about that before, but I couldnt sway him to upload/send it. See if you're powers are better than mine

I'll just roam through his many files on slsk till i find it :)

It must be available for dload somewhere on the net...

[SonorKen]

What about the program called Propellerheads Reason? I downloaded it twice but neither version has worked. Im going to just officially "BUY" it. All of the reviews I have heard about this program say it is phenominal and is one of the best programs available to actually create electronic and accoustical music.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I got FL for free, my sister borrowed it from her boyfriend, so I took it on a CD drive detour. Getting a realistic pack is easier than looking for another, as im acoustomed to FL now, even if its not designed for the purpose im using it for.

[clearvision]

What about the program called Propellerheads Reason? I downloaded it twice but neither version has worked. Im going to just officially "BUY" it. All of the reviews I have heard about this program say it is phenominal and is one of the best programs available to actually create electronic and accoustical music.

Never heard, sorry.

[Knifeboy]

Hey Ken, have you heard Porcupine Tree - The Creator Has a Mastertape?.. I read earlier in the thread that you enjoy using ghost notes.. That song has the most inticrate(sp?) drum pattern filled with ghost notes

[Mr Herb]

WEre can I download aim?

[SonorKen]

Hey Ken, have you heard Porcupine Tree - The Creator Has a Mastertape?.. I read earlier in the thread that you enjoy using ghost notes.. That song has the most inticrate(sp?) drum pattern filled with ghost notes
Yup, Im a Porcupine Tree fan actually. I love Ghost noting, it adds so much feel to a song. I woke up for work an hour early this morning, went into my studio at 5 am, cranked up some Tool/APC/Deftones/and Rage through the PA and had my morning workout!

You can download AIM at www.aol.com (Im pretty sure this is the addy). If not just google AIM download.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Drumkit from Hell works good. On Catch 33, due to time constraints and such, instead of recording the drums, Thomas Haake took samples of each piece of his kit, and made the beats for each song in Drumkit from Hell.

[SonorKen]

hmmm what all kind of options does DKFH have? I guess my question is how editable is the .wav files (or however they are saved). I guess Im looking for a review of it or a comparison to Cool Edit Pro or Audacity.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I though DKFH was just a sample package? Oh well, as long as its sounds good.

[Knifeboy]

I have drumkit from hell 2.. But it doesn't work properly, I think it's because I only have 512 mb of ram.. And it uses a gig

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You need Cubase to use it, so I really don't know that much about it. I just know that it is the top-of-the-line drum program.

Fruity Loops works fine for me. :p

[Knifeboy]

You do't need cubase to use dkfh, you can use any sequencer.. Fruity loops too

[SonorKen]

ahhhh so its not an actual editing program. If you want realistic drum sounds I literally have thousands of them on my computer, I can send them to whomever wants them when I am on a broad band which will be tomm and wednesday. You can tell me what your looking for and I can look it up and send it to you via chat. I literally have just about EVERY drum sound you could want.

[Knifeboy]

The thing about drumkit from hell, is that not only does it have every drum sound you can imagine.. It's also set up so it sounds more realistic.. For example, when you use the snare.. It'll use three samples that sound almost the same, at random, so it sounds kind of human

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I could probably go for a snare, a couple toms, crash, hi hat, and bass for Fruity Loops.

Well, since you have EVERYTHING, do you have a nice djembe sound? :p

[SonorKen]

Yea, I have tons of the stuff. I'll get with ya on chat tomm. and send you some stuff. I'll send ya a half a dozen snares, kicks, toms, cymbals, hats, djembes, congas, quintas, marimbas so you can choose which ones fit the music the best.

Also, when I get the Handsonic I'll have several hundred more sounds. From what I have heard the Handsonic sounds are much better than the SPDS sounds. I can even record my Sonors for ya.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

The thing about drumkit from hell, is that not only does it have every drum sound you can imagine.. It's also set up so it sounds more realistic.. For example, when you use the snare.. It'll use three samples that sound almost the same, at random, so it sounds kind of human

I take it you have it then?

And ken, if you could be kind enough to zip up a folder of some drum samples and upload, that would be awesome. I always struggle to find good sounding cymbals and snares

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Thanks in advance. :p Since I'm actually starting to use Fruity Loops for a song I'm writing, real samples would own even more!

Oh, and Ken, I just spammed your user CP. :p

[SonorKen]

Not a problem man. Ill have to do it tomm tho. All of the stuff is top notch and I have played the majority of it live. Alot of times I'll blend in an electronic sound at the mixer with the snare or kick on my 3005's to make it sound a little fuller at some venues. Every sound patch I have is an actual professional level patch that was designed to be used live or in a studio. I'll put together a list of what I have, you guys kinda decide what ya want, I'll put it all in a zip file and send it to everyone.

[Knifeboy]

I take it you have it then?


I have drumkit from hell 2.. But it doesn't work properly, I think it's because I only have 512 mb of ram.. And it uses a gig

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[sixfootstupid]

i think that lateralus is there tightest album sound wise and playing wise aenima almost hits the tight factor soundwise but somthing is missing i dont know if anyone eles notices but i find that lateralus is a "quiet" album compared to a greenday or slipknot record witch for me makes me have to crank it up and listen more i always thought it was really cool that way too

[Adam Jones is GOD]

***

Ignore my retardeness, I manage to miss 1 post per page. And its always the one I shouldnt miss

[Knifeboy]

Ignore my retardeness, I manage to miss 1 post per page. And its always the one I shouldnt miss

Hehehe, I wasn't calling you retarded, I know exactly how it is.. I do it myself all the time

[Syncratic]

I just heard 'I' by Meshuggah.

All I have to say is...Holy ****....that is an excellent band.

Also, Imaginary Rep++ to anyone who can tell me what movie from which my user title is culled.

[Moses]

What drum pack do you use for FL rob? I can never find a good realistic one, although I think actually being good with the program would help.
Drumkit from Hell would be the best one. Designed by Thomas Haake.

I use most of those plus the hip hop kick from the pack that comes with the program, since the kicks on the DKFH sound triggered, and the combination sounds great.

Here's a song I'm working on getting recorded for my band and I use the Drumkit from Hell plus the other kick. It's just guitar and the program.

hxxp://s53.yousendit.com/d.php?id=2ZL49OW5L0KKG3DQ3UN1HM9Q84

[clearvision]

hxxp://s53.yousendit.com/d.php?id=2ZL49OW5L0KKG3DQ3UN1HM9Q84

Whut is that?

[Moses]

Fix'd but I didn't change anything 'cept paragraph the sentance.

[clearvision]

Ah all is clear now, any chance you cna upload drum kit form hell?

[Moses]

You can get it off limewire. I'd upload it but my sister is begging me to use the computer.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Hey GMac, thanks a lot for the upload. On Arizona Bay I especially enjoyed the Dinosaur/stupid christian segment.

[Darkness]

Holy crap... my IQ is dangeriously low... :(

[siva_chair]

Since we are on the topic of drums, I have a question for anyone that can help me out here. I am doing a recording of some songs, and I don't really have access to a drummer. I need to get a drumtrack for Layla (Unplugged) but I don't know what program I can use to make something that sounds like it. It is in 12/8 time. I am a guitar player, and I don't know that much about drum programs or anything, so if anyone could suggest something for me that would be great.

[Syncratic]

Did you guys see the post in the guitar forum about Teleincision?

People need to inform themselves.

[Mr Benners]

So then Jake/G Mac... I have given in to the Cog whoring going on and downloaded the Just Visiting EPs and WOAH are they good. The music is very well thought out and conveys a sense of intelligence akin to Tool. I'll have to listen to them a few more times to fully get a grip on them, but first impressions are very promising. I'm VERY keen to hear more, so I'm wondering is the album readily available here in the UK, or is it an import/download affair?

(Sorry this isn't really Tool related :p)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm not sure if it's available in the UK. I know it's obviously been released in Australia, and now it's out in the US, but if I were you, just download the album and keep an eye out for it.

[clearvision]

Someone upload drumkit for hell pleaaase :)

[Rothmans]

Holy crap... my IQ is dangeriously low... :(

What is it?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1UUOXVBOHMLP31Z1HY6TWAKJT2

Early evidence of my new soundcard/mic combo showing promise with unamped guitar

[Mr Benners]

I'm not sure if it's available in the UK. I know it's obviously been released in Australia, and now it's out in the US, but if I were you, just download the album and keep an eye out for it.

Alritey then, thanks very much for introducing me to them and the help.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm downloading it, but what is it, Ben?

I just recorded Hush, minus the solo. I have it down, but I need delay. :upset:

EDIT: I got it, sounds dandy. Now let's hear what it sounds like slathered in distortion! :p

[Darkness]

What is it?
No way in hell I'm posting.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I'm downloading it, but what is it, Ben?

I just recorded Hush, minus the solo. I have it down, but I need delay. :upset:

Its me playing tool chords unamped.

Think of this as momentous rather than of any actual significance towards Tool.

Yet.

[Syncratic]

AJIG, you are almost as cryptic as Blair in that post.

Is it me, or does the guy in the new newsletter playing with the Barbie look like Paul D'Amour?

[Knifeboy]

No way in hell I'm posting.

Where are you from?.. If you aren't british and took that bbc one, then it's understandable.. Hehe

And AJIG... Don't use WMA.. For the love of god

[Darkness]

lol I'm not British, I'm from Canada though. :p

[Knifeboy]

Oh.. That explains it




...

:p

[Darkness]

Canada > England. :p

[Knifeboy]

Aha!.. But Denmark > Canada > England

[Darkness]

Nope. Canada > all.

/is Canada fanboy

[Moses]

Lithuania > Canada

/is from Lithuania then moved to America whom nobody likes

[Darkness]

No.

Anyways, what was the name of the new Tool cd name rumor??

[One Groovin Clown]

w00t to Canada :p , Live in Vancouver, where abouts are you Darkness?

[Darkness]

the capital of Alberta. :p

[One Groovin Clown]

the capital of Alberta. :p
Edmonton, or is it Calgary. Man i always get those 2 confused with each other.

[Darkness]

heh, its Edmonton. Though I live just on the outside of the city.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I've been Vancouver. It's a beautiful place, but man, that vacation sucked. I went with my grandparents and my mom's sister(So my aunt and cousins) and man, they are the most stuffy people on the planet. We went to some dumbass farmer's market thing, then to the Buchart Gardens. It sucked hXc. :p I'd go again, but without my family.

@ low IQ'd Hoser(teehee j/k)- Elephtheria, Bliboran, Refractionoid; Take your pic.

[Dude3]

Elephtheria, maybe...........

Hey guys, do you think I should get a name change? Dude3 just sounds kinda bland and un-memorable. What do you think I should do? Keep it or change it?

[FlyingPaul_83]

I've never eally heard tool, so I don't really know anything about them. Can someone tell me what kind of music thy play, and what cd I should get?

[Moses]

For starters you should probably get Aenima. They play prog-rock but more emphasis on ambience than technicality unlike Dream Theater or Rush.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I've never eally heard tool, so I don't really know anything about them. Can someone tell me what kind of music thy play, and what cd I should get?

Opiate: Aggressive heavy rock
Undertow: Heavy rock
Aenima: heavy rock-prog rock
lateralus: heavy prog rock

Get Aenima or Lateralus first and then go from there.

edit: i hate when people beat me to the punch

[siva_chair]

I've never eally heard tool, so I don't really know anything about them. Can someone tell me what kind of music thy play, and what cd I should get?

They play mind-trippingly great music.

You should get all their albums.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Hey siva, i've read you on the politics thread and i like what i see. fight the good fight, my friend.

[siva_chair]

Hey siva, i've read you on the politics thread and i like what i see. fight the good fight, my friend.

Thanks. It gets kinda crazy in politics, but I enjoy it. Sometimes I come in here, but I don't post much in here because I usually A) get ignored or B) don't have something new to bring to the discussion. I do enjoy reading this thread alot, and Tool is, of course, one of my absolute favorite bands.

[Dude3]

Hey guys, do you think I should get a name change? Dude3 just sounds kinda bland and un-memorable. What do you think I should do? Keep it or change it?
Anybody?

[Darkness]

We know you as Dude3, just leave as that.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

To Siva: But the more you post in here - the more you'll get noticed. If you post intelligently, then you'll be respected in here, and I think you can do that.

Anybody?

Yeah, change it if you feel the need. I changed mine to the lyrics of Zappa's Muffin Man.

Also, I'd do something a little obscure, so that you aren't perceived as a fanboy.

[siva_chair]

But the more you post in here - the more you'll get noticed. If you post intelligently, then you'll be respected in here, and I think you can do that.

Indeed. I dunno, I just never feel like I have anything interesting to bring to the discussions. Though I do really like this place...

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

As of late, it's turned into more of a community thread for people that like Tool than just a thread for the discussion of Tool. Mainly due to the lack of new news and material on them. :p

[Dude3]

I think I might change it, although people know me as Dude3. If I do, I'll wait until I think of something good.

[3074326]

I heard that Tool has a cover song of Eddie Money's "Trinidad" on the new album. Apparantly David Draiman from Disturbed shares vocals with Maynard.

[siva_chair]

As of late, it's turned into more of a community thread for people that like Tool than just a thread for the discussion of Tool. Mainly due to the lack of new news and material on them. :p

Yeah. **** their secrecy.

I heard that Tool has a cover song of Eddie Money's "Trinidad" on the new album. Apparantly David Draiman from Disturbed shares vocals with Maynard.

Umm, what?

[3074326]

Haha, just getting some Tool-related discussion going. People were saying it was just a community thread for those who like Tool. :p

[One Groovin Clown]

i find it a mix mash. Since the clues came out there was a huge bang of discussion, then followed by tons of somewhat off topic talk.

[siva_chair]

Haha, just getting some Tool-related discussion going. People were saying it was just a community thread for those who like Tool. :p

Where did you hear this news at?

I knew that David Draiman was working with Mr. Keaton and Blessed in Black, but with Tool?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

And AJIG... Don't use WMA.. For the love of god

Yeah, sorry. It was just a spur of the moment 'holy crap, my mic works...its recording...quick, save it as proof' job.

Still, it should have saved in .mp3 at least..., time to do some checking

[clearvision]

Draiman owns, his voice might clash with maynards though, they are kinda similair.

[RunAmokRampant]

Did Maynard get severely beaten recently? I heard from somewhere that he did at his Arizona estate. Hoax?

[clearvision]

Did Maynard get severely beaten recently? I heard from somewhere that he did at his Arizona estate. Hoax?

Probably, most people get beaten for bieng christian converts.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Its untrue. He was staying at his Mars retreat all month with his boyfriend

[clearvision]

Its untrue. He was staying at his Mars retreat all month with his boyfriend

Shutup fool it was Venus...Veeeeennnnuuuussss.

/we sound like fags off toolshed :(

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Blame blair. He make us act this way. Instead of updates, we get his photo album

[clearvision]

:lol: So true.

But there are so many fags on toolshed, people are trying to make sense of the rumours, and they just post sh!t like bibloran 1/1/06...

When do we hear your guitar skillz Ben?

NP : SikTh - Tupelo...such a funny song.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

When they develop I guess. I've mastered the tool powerchords as you can hear :lol:

Or probably once I get the house to myself for an hour or two. Problem with the cpu being in the living room is the TV on, people milling about, and no one wants a guitar being amped during the day.

[clearvision]

When they develop I guess. I've mastered the tool powerchords as you can hear :lol:

Or probably once I get the house to myself for an hour or two. Problem with the cpu being in the living room is the TV on, people milling about, and no one wants a guitar being amped during the day.

Yhup, I wanna lay down my vocals for aenima, but I'm told you can hear me at the top of my rd :( and there is workmen outside.

[Syncratic]

Its untrue. He was staying at his Mars retreat all month with his boyfriend

Wait....what?

[clearvision]

Wait....what?

Yeah that's right, the person you named your account after is a flamboyant homosexual.

[Syncratic]

Yeah that's right, the person you named your account after is a flamboyant homosexual.

He can do what he wants, not a problem. I don't have a problem with gay people, so....

And plus, his 'MySpace' (irony++) says he's a swinger.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I just thought about something concerning the new album. Okay, does anyone hear remember that article, which I'm not sure if it was fake or not, with Adam, and it showed a basic picture of a few teens in the sand and it said something like "Oh My God We're Going To See Tool" or something like that and Adam said they are actually considering the cover? Well, I think we also remember the MX'er deadohiosky who all of a sudden came on claiming he knew secrets about the album. Now, the only way he'd tell the secret to you, was by you e-mailing him some information about yourself, why you love Tool, the inspiration they have had on you, etc. Well, deadohiosky has disappeared from these boards now all of a sudden. So, I'm thinking: What if he was asked by Blair who was asked by the members of Tool to do this. You know, since if the cover of the album is going to be just a bunch of teens excited to see Tool, what if they collected all those e-mails that people sent, and somehow put it into the cd booklet to fit in with the concept? Or maybe they'll take the names of the people who sent e-mails and somehow use them in a not so positive way in the book (I really doubt this) because they were trying to gain knowledge of the new album before it came out. So, what do you guys think? Yes, I know, it's a stretch.

[BlindWriting]

I heard Maynard, upon request, put about a pound of weed into the cannon that Hunter S. Thompson's ashes were fired out of.







:eek:

[Syncratic]

I just thought about something concerning the new album. Okay, does anyone hear remember that article, which I'm not sure if it was fake or not, with Adam, and it showed a basic picture of a few teens in the sand and it said something like "Oh My God We're Going To See Tool" or something like that and Adam said they are actually considering the cover? Well, I think we also remember the MX'er deadohiosky who all of a sudden came on claiming he knew secrets about the album. Now, the only way he'd tell the secret to you, was by you e-mailing him some information about yourself, why you love Tool, the inspiration they have had on you, etc. Well, deadohiosky has disappeared from these boards now all of a sudden. So, I'm thinking: What if he was asked by Blair who was asked by the members of Tool to do this. You know, since if the cover of the album is going to be just a bunch of teens excited to see Tool, what if they collected all those e-mails that people sent, and somehow put it into the cd booklet to fit in with the concept? Or maybe they'll take the names of the people who sent e-mails and somehow use them in a not so positive way in the book (I really doubt this) because they were trying to gain knowledge of the new album before it came out. So, what do you guys think? Yes, I know, it's a stretch.

You never know. It is quite a strecth, but anything is possible.

I heard Maynard, upon request, put about a pound of weed into the cannon that Hunter S. Thompson's ashes were fired out of.

I would expect nothing less.