Tool

[Huber]

Wow. Thats pretty harsh for the R&M mods.

(seems more like a subtlefagger thing)

That guy annoys me very much.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

And people wonder why I avoid the pit

[Huber]

And people wonder why I avoid the pit

I only post there when I see an interesting thread on the main page.

[Otherside]

There are some good posters in the Pit; Nacho, Hat, Strum(before he was a mod(hardly see him post anymore)), Eggo(especially), Ramsey ect ect, you just have to look out for them.

[One Groovin Clown]

only time i go to the pit, is on my way to read some of the articles in politics, News, and world issues. Some interesting reading is in there.

[Whale and Wasp]

That guy annoys me very much.
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[Adam Jones is GOD]

Strums an awesome mod now, each time i've seen him active anyway.

I use the sub forums mainly. lots of good people in Video Games

[Mr Herb]

Comments on the last pages:

props to faith for getting into the 13th step wich is dam ace.


Anyways Ive always thought that danny copies some stuff from yyz on the grudge.

I used to double post recently. :( not anymore:)


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/theherbals_music.htm MY band. . check out my own summer :cool:

[Moses]

Gah! I'm older than you? lol

I'm a youngin' at a mere 22. There's still much to learn

~daniel
I'm 16..........

And thanks for the bow.

/Bows back for being a good noob

EDIT:Heh, sounds like my bands first recording herbtones. Tell the drummer to get better.

[Lateralias]

Yeah he is sounding a bit behind in the mix.

Hey now.. Esoteric isn't a noob.. just a "new member" right? hehe

[LP|Stang]

I heard Lateralus on the radio today. I forgot how much it was butured for radio. The whole soft part + solo is gone.

[Esoteric_Creator]

I have but another..

Pu****

Whenever I first heard this song a phrase came to my mind, "It's like stepping into an old comfortable pair of shoes." Right now that doesn't make much sense, but I'll try and explain.

This is the one song on AEnima that really got me. Not only due to the fact in this track, musically, the band takes this song, dissects it, and brings it back together at the end (which fascinates me as a musician); and vocally, Maynard really shows his talent at the end of the song and lyrically (which fascinates me as a writer as well).

But I see this song as the ultimate fight between man Vs. self. A battle against personal demons.. You ever hit a point in your life were depression is all that really comforted you? TooL touched on this before with the song Reflections off of their Lateralus album. This is what I get from Pu****:

I will choke until I swallow... Choke this infant here before me. What is this but my reflection? Who am I to judge and strike you down?

This is where I think we get Maynards' first view of his personal demon, and ultimately it's himself. And the funny part is that we see that he sees it as being a mere infant. Because in an infant a human can really find no wrong or evil in them, and we look upon them as a comfort while they are around us. In turn, this is how Maynard sees his shadow, or personal demon.

But you're pushing and shoving me. You still love me and you pu**** on me.

So in Maynards' comfort and blindness to his demon, it continues to push and shove his thoughts and emotions. And in a metaphoric sense the demon loves him by never leaving, and continues to push the depression on him.

Rest your trigger on my finger, bang my head upon the fault line. Take care not to make me enter. 'cause if I do we both may disappear. But you're pushing me, shoving me. Pu**** on me.

No longer having control over your thoughts and emotions. At times it even seems as though the actions you commit was forced upon you. So at some point you hit a point of no return in your head, which I think is what Maynard means by "Take care not to make me enter. 'cause if I do we both may disappear." If a person hits that spot in their heads, neither the person nor the demon will matter anymore. And in a more literal term, suicide.
Maynard also refers to "the faultline", which is a presence in almost every one of his albums (even till now with his APC 13th Step cd in the song The Outsider). In the song AEnema he uses the faultline of California as a representation as the line between realization and close-minded idiocy of todays world. So in this songs i thin he's trying to say that in this state, he's stuck in something he doesn't want to be in the middle of.
And again, Maynard is talking to the demon, "But you're pushing me, shoving me. Pu**** on me."

Slipping back into the gap again. I'm alive when you're touching me, alive when you're shoving me down. But i'd trade it all for just a little bit of piece of mind.

The bottom of bottoms. That last few moments when you feel you can't go any further. Your feelings are so distrought, that you become numb to any other pain, and again finding comfort in it. But he realizes, that he would trade it all just to have a peace of mind again.

Put me somewhere I don't wanna be. Seeing someplace I don't wanna see. Never wanna see that place again.

This part of the songs is perfect. The music tones down to a hypnotic rythme, and a slow electric guitar playing in the background. Maynards' voice goes into a slight moan. It's just set up perfectly for the lyrics.
This is where a self-realization starts to peak over the horizon. You're looking up from the bottom of the pit, and you notice that your demon has brought you down here. There is no longer a comfort, but rather a waking up from a terrible/soothing dream.

Saw that gap again today as you were begging me to stay. Managed to push myself away, and you, as well.

Maynard has just climbed his way out of the pit tired and worn. He looks back and sees that the demon is begging him to stay. But he's already shoving himself away.

If, when I say I may fade like a sigh if I stay, you minimize my movement anyway, I must persuade you another way. There's no love in fear.

This is were Maynard realizes how much in love he was with that pitiful hole, and saddens him. Knowing that if he stayed he might have died, or just would have gone anywhere in life at all. So he has to persuade himself there is another way to live. And I love the scream he lets out on the phrase, "There's no love in fear" showing his anger towards his self-dellusion that he was happy in his hole.

Staring down the hole again. Hands upon my back again. Survival is my only friend. Terrified of what may come. Just remember I will always love you, even as I tear your ****ing throat away. But it will end no other way.

Best **** vocals here, and they mix perfectly with the lyrics.
Once he is out of the hole prepared to look forward, you can't help but to feel fear of what's to come. "Will I find another hole? Will it catch up with me again?" So survival becomes a companion in a fight not to fall again. And just before he starts walking again, Maynard looks back to his old demon (i.e. self/shadow) and not being able to hate himself (because in doing so how can you have a future without learning from past) but symbolicly tearing it's throat away by leaving it behind him. And he knows that to enlighten himself and become an "awake" person, it can end no other way.


Truly a beautiful song in my opinion. This song can also be taken as a break up song with someone who mentally or physically abuses you. They both have the same principle.

Prying open my third eye,
~daniel

[Esoteric_Creator]

Yeah he is sounding a bit behind in the mix.

Hey now.. Esoteric isn't a noob.. just a "new member" right? hehe


lol I agree (although I was barely introduced to these boards through the APC boards lol) Whenever I saw this thread I said, "F**king A! A thread I can really get into." And took it from there.

And besides, I like the term new member rather than noob...sounds alot like boob lol Then again, new member as an odd ring to it too :p lol

~daniel

[3074326]

I agree, but the mods latley have been really pushing the "no double-post" policy. Regs like Fast Fingers and Cain were banned for double posting just once.

Hmm, I didn't know those two were banned for that reason.

I get annoyed by double posts if they're like this:

Post One: 6:31 PM
lol yeah they rule

Post Two: 6:32 PM
ne1 else like em

Stupid stuff like that. If there's a point to the double post, it's okay. If the two could easily have been posted in one post, or if there's no reason to double post, then don't double post. :) I usually throw out a few warnings before I ban, though.

Oh yeah..

Faith+1, I hate saying this, but your Lateralus drum track is off just a little bit around 5:40. It's extremely hard to record that part now. :(

I feel bad for saying that because I know that playing Danny Carey isn't an easy task. I've tried to record to it, but I can't get it to sound right. :upset:

[rage_h87]

***Just a reminder to anyone who didnt vote for Chancellor in Top Bassist Poll***

Sorry if this post is annoying but i cant stand the fact that cliff or geezer are leading the poll....

thanx

[jamesclelland]

this was a few pages back but oh well. i asked blair (email of course) how they recorded. i was curious if they use digital or analog, line in, etc... it's possible the morse code thingy has something to do with that. but like the rest of you i have no idea what the hell that means.

[LP|Stang]

***Just a reminder to anyone who didnt vote for Chancellor in Top Bassist Poll***

Sorry if this post is annoying but i cant stand the fact that cliff or geezer are leading the poll....

thanx

What if he's not the best though?

[Futuro]

Faith+1, I hate saying this, but your Lateralus drum track is off just a little bit around 5:40. It's extremely hard to record that part now. **** (fill in the stars with whatever 4 letter word you wish)

[Moses]

***Just a reminder to anyone who didnt vote for Chancellor in Top Bassist Poll***

Sorry if this post is annoying but i cant stand the fact that cliff or geezer are leading the poll....

thanx
I voted for Geezer because he's just better and Justin was winning at the time anyway.

[Moses]

**** (fill in the stars with whatever 4 letter word you wish)
Poop. :thumb:

Double post.

Here's my entry for Piano Composer's Fest in Milwaukee.

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1O1NUDM3DBTNA0M27ZJAS7TV3T

Feedback please.

[BlindWriting]

***Just a reminder to anyone who didnt vote for Chancellor in Top Bassist Poll***

Sorry if this post is annoying but i cant stand the fact that cliff or geezer are leading the poll....

thanx
I really find it hard to believe that Cliff Burton is winning this.

N.P. – Porcupine Tree - In Absentia. Get this album!

[Lateralias]

Esoteric that was a beautiful interpretation! I've always seen it as a story of an abusive relationship, and the abused victim ends up killing whom he loves yet is abused by, but you opened up a new view to me, wonderful job! Both versions are beautiful just as beautiful though.

[Moses]

I really find it hard to believe that Cliff Burton is winning this.

N.P. – Porcupine Tree - In Absentia. Get this album!
Some martyrs do see divinity.

/realizes Cliff wasn't really a martyr.

Oh and a big whore of my entry for Piano Composer's Fest:

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1O1NUDM3DBTNA0M27ZJAS7TV3T

[Mr Herb]

I'm 16..........

And thanks for the bow.

/Bows back for being a good noob

EDIT:Heh, sounds like my bands first recording herbtones. Tell the drummer to get better.
lol it was our frst recording, it wont get much better til I get better recording equipment. My drummer aint much lol, my bro. If id play id do it better but am busy on the bass. I dunno about any other drummers around. . .

[Moses]

lol it was our frst recording, it wont get much better til I get better recording equipment. My drummer aint much lol, my bro. If id play id do it better but am busy on the bass. I dunno about any other drummers around. . .
If he's only been playing a little while then that's fine but tell him to work on his fills and then he'll even out a little more.

[Mr Herb]

If he's only been playing a little while then that's fine but tell him to work on his fills and then he'll even out a little more.
yeah hes sorta new. I thought too he should work on his fills. guess itll take time :thumb:

[Moses]

You should listen to my composition contest entry just a few posts up.

[Mr Herb]

Woah dude tis very nice and insane at times. Did you win? tell me if you do!



Maynard should play some piano on the new album

[Moses]

Woah dude tis very nice and insane at times. Did you win? tell me if you do!



Maynard should play some piano on the new album
Pshh I probably won't win, what with a under two minute song.

[Mr Herb]

o well. . .the name is pretty cool thou.

How did you find the singer on my band?

[Moses]

o well. . .the name is pretty cool thou.

How did you find the singer on my band?
What?

[Mr Herb]

lol. On the song you heard from my band. . .my own summer. . .was the singer any good?

[Moses]

He was pretty good pitch wise, but that's not that hard to sing. Have him sing 46&2 and see how well he does....... That **** was really hard. He's gotta cool scream but it'll probably change as he gets older. That's what happened to me because I used to have a scream like that but now when I go for that type of scream it's more mid-range. I can do more varieties of screams since I lost the highpitched scream though.

[Mr Herb]

Hes erm 17 but o well.

Am trying to get em to sing tool but he says its for fags and my bro wont have skill to play tool for a while and my guitarist says the songs are too long. . so were stuck with incubus deftones slipknot and other ****

[Moses]

Hes erm 17 but o well.

Am trying to get em to sing tool but he says its for fags and my bro wont have skill to play tool for a while and my guitarist says the songs are too long. . so were stuck with incubus deftones slipknot and other ****
He says Tool is for fags but he wants to play Incubus?

Last time I checked Tool is heavier than Incubus. Let him listen to Ticks and Leeches.

[Mr Herb]

. Let him listen to Ticks and Leeches.


Great idea!

Most people in pr dislikes tool. But thats alright, am the only one with tool shirts :cool:



yeah incubus is faggy. I dont think hes ever really heard tool . . .

[BlindWriting]

I think Incubus is great.

[TheMachineRagesOn]

As do i, maybe that guy is just an immature, ignorant kid who hasnt developed a real taste in music yet, maybe?

[Moses]

I like Incubus too.

[Trintar_VIII]

Yeah, the guitar player in my band hated Tool, so we never got to play any of them. It was a big letdown. The bassist and I play them every chance we get though.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

The typical knock on Tool isn't their lack of heaviness. People think that they're either boring or too dark. I have some friends who like Tool and others who don't... those who don't generally tell me why they aren't into Tool.

I know I've brought this up, but Pitchfork knocked Tool's Lateralus for being too repetitive after they gave one of Mogwai's albums a great review. Interesting. I like Mogwai, but they place a lot more emphasis on repetition than Tool does. I don't think it's a valid criticism in that case.

[Moses]

The typical knock on Tool isn't their lack of heaviness. People think that they're either boring or too dark. I have some friends who like Tool and others who don't... those who don't generally tell me why they aren't into Tool.

I know I've brought this up, but Pitchfork knocked Tool's Lateralus for being too repetitive after they gave one of Mogwai's albums a great review. Interesting. I like Mogwai, but they place a lot more emphasis on repetition than Tool does. I don't think it's a valid criticism in that case.
In the singer's situation though, it sounds like it might be the lack of heaviness.

Anyway I encourage people to listen to the download at the top of the page. It's me playing my entry for a composition competition.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

In the singer's situation though, it sounds like it might be the lack of heaviness.


I don't see it. Oh well.

Anyway I encourage people to listen to the download at the top of the page. It's me playing my entry for a composition competition.

:lol: Sorry I listened to it before and meant to say something. I liked it! You definitely have an eccentric style and paint the right picture in respect to your title. It definitely sounds like some sort of escape into fantasy. You're a very skilled musician. :thumb:

[Mr Herb]

I like incubus too, were playing pistola next on the band.

I think the singer dislikes em cause. . .I really dont know. . .I have no clue:( he just said they were fags.


Many people here listen to them but say they dont like them alot and only listen to their short songs. . and they seem un interested whenever I try to show em stuff like lateralus and the patient. And they wont even give props to danny, they swear the dude from metallica is better

[Expresso]

Esoteric... now THAT's a Tool Thred Post!

Pu**** is the most beautiful Tool song in my opinion, and the fact that they improved it live is, to say the least, rediculous.

Faith + 1
Where's your Lateralus track at? (Who caresa about minute 5:40 anyways?)

[XyleM]

NP: Incubus - Idiot Box

So yea I like incubus as well...

My mates don't like Tool, because of the length of the songs, and the rumours spread and stuff. They all have too shorter attention spans lol.

[Otherside]

My friends don't like Tool either, but they never like one band for long anyways. The progression of one of my friends was:

Nu-metal=> Classic Rock => 80's Heavy Metal => 70's/80's hardcore punk => Indie

All within one and half year.

[Mr Herb]

My friends don't like Tool either, but they never like one band for long anyways. The progression of one of my friends was:

Nu-metal=> Classic Rock => 80's Heavy Metal => 70's/80's hardcore punk => Indie

All within one and half year.


It went up then way down!

[Moses]

I don't see it. Oh well.



:lol: Sorry I listened to it before and meant to say something. I liked it! You definitely have an eccentric style and paint the right picture in respect to your title. It definitely sounds like some sort of escape into fantasy. You're a very skilled musician. :thumb:
Thanks, I actually named the song after I made it but definately what I had in mind. The name, Fantasy, actually is a style of writing, because it's alot more free form and lets the composer do what they want.

[Trintar_VIII]

Letmypeopleho - Very nice playing...I found it to be both energetic and relaxing at the same time. How long have you been playing?

Also, where is the clip of Faith + 1 playing Lateralus? I'd like to hear it if that's possible.

[Moses]

Letmypeopleho - Very nice playing...I found it to be both energetic and relaxing at the same time. How long have you been playing?

Also, where is the clip of Faith + 1 playing Lateralus? I'd like to hear it if that's possible.
Thanks, I've been playing since I was 5 so that'd be 11 years.

[Trintar_VIII]

I always meant to learn piano, but never got around to doing it. The college I'm going to requires that music majors take a piano course, so i guess i'm finally going to learn.

[Knifeboy]

Faith + 1
Where's your Lateralus track at? (Who caresa about minute 5:40 anyways?)


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/themarshalljourney_music.htm

Here's the track.. And I care.. Because it's impossible to sing over :|.. And it's a shame because other than that his recording is absolutely amazing.
*feels bad for critisizing it*

[Phobophile]

Tool will reportedly be issuing a vinyl edition of their "Lateralus" album in North America on August 23rd. The outing is said to be a double-vinyl effort on 4 picture discs, packaged in a special plastic gatefold with holographic foil. No official word has been released as of yet however.

-according theprp.com

[clearvision]

We should all hit blair with millions of emails asking him to explain this one...

[Knifeboy]

Man.. The vocals on Lateralus are more complicated than I first thought... Not only is the rythm on them crazy.. But he changes it every time he sings... Plus, he uses a different "voice" for each passage
Plus, the vocals are double tracked... So if I make a mistake, it's really obvious, unless i make the same mistake twice


Gotta love Maynard

[clearvision]

I got catching without arms today...I <3 dredg so much at the moment, them combined with bjork = lighting up my days :)

I just really struggle to do the aggressive vocals that maynard does :( I sound like such a little boy :confused:

[Knifeboy]

Haha.. Yeah.. I know how that is.. I'm 19 and I still sound kind of childish when I scream

And I was in denmarks biggest record store here yesterday.. And they didn't even have Catch without arms..!.. That made me quite mad

[clearvision]

:lol: I was in HMV the other day (out of boredom) and i was half glancing through the emtal section, half checking out the store assistan :cool: (decided she was too emo to be striking up convo with)

Anyways, the metal section consisted of bands like Alkaline trio, My Chemical Romance, Brand New and A Perfect Circle...'scuse me, metal?

There was no Burzum, Only Soulside Journey (not a black metal album) by Darkthrone, No Children of Bodom or Dragonforce...So Any Power metal/Black metal CD's I may have wanted but wouldn't have bought because of extortionate prices, weren't there! And their Lateralus wasin a paper case :confused: I didn't think that was supposed to be the case...(hehe did you see what i did there?)

[Knifeboy]

Hehehe.. Pun fully inteded I suppos?
We're lucky here, the metal section in that store I went to yesterday have all the underground metal you could dream of.. Plus a little description behind each band name such as "Groundbreaking metal, the debut is a must hear!"... They actually take the time to have their employees listen to the music and comment!...
But they don't carry dredg >:|

[Knifeboy]

(Double post.. .. Only because this is totally unrelated to the other post, and this post actually have something to do with tool.. hehe)

http://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3OWK6U501HPSJ3VD32I689GSP7
Here's a clip of me doing the chorus to lateralus.. Critique is very welcome,.. If you think I should sing it differently.. Have gotten the rythm wrong, is singing the wrong melody, or just plain don't like my voice.. Don't hesitate to tell me

[Moses]

(Double post.. .. Only because this is totally unrelated to the other post, and this post actually have something to do with tool.. hehe)

http://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3OWK6U501HPSJ3VD32I689GSP7
Here's a clip of me doing the chorus to lateralus.. Critique is very welcome,.. If you think I should sing it differently.. Have gotten the rythm wrong, is singing the wrong melody, or just plain don't like my voice.. Don't hesitate to tell me
Don't double the vocals. I think it would sound better with one track and try to put more melody and let it flow.

Also I didn't know that we had a guitar track for that. I think I'm gonna sing it too.

[Knifeboy]

Don't double the vocals. I think it would sound better with one track

You're right. Hehe.. Thanks for the input... And it's chris' guitar track I'm using.. it isn't completely done

[clearvision]

Of course that punw as intended :p

Definateley go with 1 track for that part...there may be other parts where it may be usefeul if you can pull it off though...

Are you danish? I thought you had some kind of accent :)

[Knifeboy]

Of course that punw as intended :p

Definateley go with 1 track for that part...there may be other parts where it may be usefeul if you can pull it off though...

Are you danish? I thought you had some kind of accent :)

Yeah I first now noticed that maynard isn't double tracking that part. Oops.. And I'm very danish, and I have very big troubles pronouncing "drawing"! Haha

[Moses]

Can you YSI the backing tracks?

Or is on the soundclick?

[Knifeboy]

You should talk to Chris about that, he might have an updated version of it

[clearvision]

...He was moaning about faiths track bieng out, so i don't suppose he will update untill it is sorted...

I will get my recording done monday/tuesday as i have a free house :)

[Moses]

He could edit the WAV file......

I'm gonna record some Lateralus.

[clearvision]

Vox or guitar or what?

I thought you were gonna redo your 46 & 2...?

I can't wait to record, i was doing a little bit the other day and it sounded awesome...:)

[Knifeboy]

http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=19ASPM8YUO1WR3V76LV1PUU6JV
Here's my improved take on the chorus

http://s27.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=18H63RRAWJV522I1FS92IOVA7X
And here's the backing

[Moses]

Vox or guitar or what?

I thought you were gonna redo your 46 & 2...?

I can't wait to record, i was doing a little bit the other day and it sounded awesome...:)
I will eventually but I'm lazy and Lateralus is easier.

Knifeboy one more thing, don't use so much vibrato on this song. Otherwise it's good.

Also the drums don't seem off at 5:40 like Chris said they did. It's probably the syncopation.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You bastards. Never go 10 pages without me again! Can someone update me on all that has happened? Any new tracks, new rumors, etc...

[Moses]

You bastards. Never go 10 pages without me again! Can someone update me on all that has happened? Any new tracks, new rumors, etc...
Something about morse code...... And I'll be doing Lateralus soon and touching up my 46&2 disaster.

[Mr Herb]

ho dude are you gonna do all of lateralus? knife boys part was good but you should try it and see if you do better. . .I think your voice is more maynard like I think

[Moses]

I'll probably do better than on 46&2 because Lateralus is alot easier for the most part.

The end of 46&2 was so hard to do because I really have to throw it out there to get it and I didn't get it that time.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Did Chris fix his problem he was having on Lateralus?

[clearvision]

:eek: Jake...flick back a few pages...someone came up with a link, a lateralus Vinyl on August the 23rd...

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ah, I knew that they would come out with it sooner or later. :p

[Moses]

Did Chris fix his problem he was having on Lateralus?
It sounds fine to me. :confused:

[Mr Herb]

I'll probably do better than on 46&2 because Lateralus is alot easier for the most part.

The end of 46&2 was so hard to do because I really have to throw it out there to get it and I didn't get it that time.
Dude if you cant get it right then do something else that sounds good with the song. . .improvise :p give it a shot

[Moses]

I could just scream the part......

My dirty voice is better than my clean one anyway.

[clearvision]

I need some bass and some drums for aenima...what happened to ken? And where is JoZ? Jake, you talk to JoZ, no? Ihave just sensed the deadline is looming, and this needs to be mixed up well...

[Moses]

Deadline is the first of August.

[clearvision]

Yeah, it is looming...we need bass for lateralus too...other than that we can cover the ground with guitars/vocals...

[Moses]

Who's doing bass for that? I also hope they bring out the syncopation on the "With my feet upon the ground" part. It's necessary for the song to be effective.

Anyway I just sang along with the real version and I feel really confident about Lateralus.

[clearvision]

I want to cover only by Nin...the video has brought that song back to my attention, Trent's voice owns in that song, when he shows his delerium and stuff with little whispers...Video is quality too...:)

I mentioned it because we still need bass for it...no-one has claimed it to my knowledge

[Moses]

I want to cover only by Nin...the video has brought that song back to my attention, Trent's voice owns in that song, when he shows his delerium and stuff with little whispers...Video is quality too...:)
I haven't seen that video.....

That song kicks *** though. I really love the disco beat.

[clearvision]

The video, shows an office set-up....with a mac, set of ball things that go tick tick...and one of those things with all these pins in where you can make handprints etc...

Trent is shown on the pin thing while the music comes out of the computer...it sounds pants when i'm explaining it but it really is a good video, though some of the camera shots are a bit off, there is one point where he pushes the glass with his hand, that bit is great...

/hasn't been watching it endlessley :rolleyes:

[Moses]

Do they play it on MTV and stuff because the last thing I want is teeny boppers singing The Hand That Feeds?

[clearvision]

Scuzz, which is just as bad :lol:

Meh Scuzz is ok sometimes, they tend to play alot of generic emo, I remember screwing one time because i thought they played two MCR songs, but one turned out to be the used :confused: yeah...

Teeny boppers wouldn't sing THTF, one of my mates saw it on CD:UK (pop show) and was liek wtf is tht goff doing? And my ex was so imparital to Nin, when she loved loads of other stuff...basically i don't think Nin has the teeny bopper appeal.

[Moses]

If they had played the MTV awards I think it might have sunk in to the teeny boppers.

Either way I don't really care.

[Moses]

I recorded a chorus but it's really muffled because my mic is deciding to be a bitch.

[Artemician]

Well I just realized how little of a life I have. Ever since reading about the morse code thing on Toolband, I decided to try and over-analyze it (I always interpreted the Lateralus lyric as a good thing). Anyway, here's what I've realized so far:

The word (••• – •• – – • – –) seems to spell "stittett", but that doesn't make any sense. Here I realized that there are no defined spaces between the groups (apart from spaces on either side of a dash, which very well probably means nothing). Here's where it gets confusing, with no defined spaces, you now have to interpret where the spaces would go.

I haven't found that much yet, but rest assured that I will squeeze this dry, as I really have nothing better to do with my time.

[Moses]

Well I just realized how little of a life I have. Ever since reading about the morse code thing on Toolband, I decided to try and over-analyze it (I always interpreted the Lateralus lyric as a good thing). Anyway, here's what I've realized so far:

The word (••• – •• – – • – –) seems to spell "stittett", but that doesn't make any sense. Here I realized that there are no defined spaces between the groups (apart from spaces on either side of a dash, which very well probably means nothing). Here's where it gets confusing, with no defined spaces, you now have to interpret where the spaces would go.

I haven't found that much yet, but rest assured that I will squeeze this dry, as I really have nothing better to do with my time.
Hee hee, tit.

Anyway here's my bit of muffled chorus.

http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=190GWVVHMV6CQ2YYHXGX83BUMF

[clearvision]

Well I just realized how little of a life I have. Ever since reading about the morse code thing on Toolband, I decided to try and over-analyze it (I always interpreted the Lateralus lyric as a good thing). Anyway, here's what I've realized so far:

The word (••• – •• – – • – –) seems to spell "stittett", but that doesn't make any sense. Here I realized that there are no defined spaces between the groups (apart from spaces on either side of a dash, which very well probably means nothing). Here's where it gets confusing, with no defined spaces, you now have to interpret where the spaces would go.

I haven't found that much yet, but rest assured that I will squeeze this dry, as I really have nothing better to do with my time.

Someone one toolshed has worked out all possible combinations...

[Artemician]

Someone one toolshed has worked out all possible combinations...

I'll look into that, thanks.

*just wasted a lot of time* :lol:

[Syncratic]

Hey, all, just got back from Ocean City. The trip was fun!

So, any news from the world of Tool or in the thread?

[Moses]

What the hell?

/Bump

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So I'm going to elaborate on what Herb said about the new album's themes to be centralized on space due to Blair's "updates." One lyric is standing out in my mind that would perhaps be a gateway from Lateralus to whatever's next. "Spiral out, keep going" is perhaps referring to unexplored areas of the galaxy.(I've said it before, I know) I say this because of the galaxy contains to spirals. I'm on drugs, so forgive me if this sounds butchered or anything, but you'll get the basic gist of it, I think. :D

[Moses]

So I'm going to elaborate on what Herb said about the new album's themes to be centralized on space due to Blair's "updates." One lyric is standing out in my mind that would perhaps be a gateway from Lateralus to whatever's next. "Spiral out, keep going" is perhaps referring to unexplored areas of the galaxy.(I've said it before, I know) I say this because of the galaxy contains to spirals. I'm on drugs, so forgive me if this sounds butchered or anything, but you'll get the basic gist of it, I think. :D
Well also in Faaip de Oiad they were talking about aliens.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

True, very true.

Oh, and on a semi-Tool-related note: When I was in having my wisdom teeth removed, when they first gave me the nitrous, all I could hear was static, and I felt my body get all tingly, and it was almost as if I just kind of paused in time. Sound like an astral projection to anyone?

[Moses]

Ha, I get those all the time......

.........


..........

Not really.

Well I'm gonna upload my vocals for Lateralus soon. The first verse and chorus are done.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Well, let me explain. From what I've heard/read about astral projections, right before you are about to leave your body, you start hearing a bunch of static. [see: (-) ions] Oh, and if you've never heard of astrally projecting, it's like meditation, but instead of just relaxing in a sedated state, you actaully leave your body, and you can go pretty much anywhere. :amaze:

[Moses]

Well, let me explain. From what I've heard/read about astral projections, right before you are about to leave your body, you start hearing a bunch of static. [see: (-) ions] Oh, and if you've never heard of astrally projecting, it's like meditation, but instead of just relaxing in a sedated state, you actaully leave your body, and you can go pretty much anywhere. :amaze:
I know what it is and I think I've gotten one once but it was before I went to bed and it was really spinny and stuff so I stopped.

Okay, here's my vocals. Some things are double tracked.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think you have to be asleep. Perhaps you just had a headrush or something. I've been having plenty of those recently. :-/ But yeah, you really have to be in a super deep state of meditation and such, so I doubt it was that.

[Moses]

I think you have to be asleep. Perhaps you just had a headrush or something. I've been having plenty of those recently. :-/ But yeah, you really have to be in a super deep state of meditation and such, so I doubt it was that.
No, it definately wasn't a headrush. It wasn't that kinda spinny sensation and I did hear static. I could have been asleep too but I don't think I was because it was really memorable.

Ok, here's my vocals, some parts are double tracked to give it the sound that Maynard has on that song.

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=23NWIWIEP1QB91KQE0G81GSCFT

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Hey, where'd the guitar come from?

[Moses]

That's Chris' track.

[Moses]

Feedback?

[Huber]

I haven't heard all of the other vocals that have been done but,

I don't think you sound much like Maynard, but it still made the song sound good. I'd say a pretty good job :thumb:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Boo 9 minute bumps. Please delete/merge Moses. Anyways, it didn't sound too bad. It sounds like you put one track to the left and the other to the right ear right? That is the only thing I'm going to complain about...It sounds very wierd. If they are both centered, then there is something very scary going on.

[Moses]

http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13OA2517NJW2Y05T5ZFLY4BL7H

One track on the chorus.

[Lateralias]

The vocals kindof sound off track with the guitar and drums at times..

Just being honest :upset:

[Moses]

On the verse or the chorus? Whatever it is I'll end up fixing it, but besides that how are the vocals?

[Lateralias]

The verse, the vocals sound great cept they should sound a bit "stronger" on the chorus.

[Moses]

I'll end up redoing that with more oommph.

[Lateralias]

Actually it might just be that reverb.. maybe too much of it on the chorus?

[Moses]

No it's definately how I sang it. I sang a little too high ended and couldn't get any power behind it.

[Mr Herb]

Your vocals souns good dude, just put tiny bit of more power on the chorus but I guess they alright :)


Dudes of tool check out this cover of apcs over. tis funny.


http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QZBR14MC6N061PM15DK8GDJP8

[Expresso]

Faith, oh maaan, it is off! We all hate ourselves for saying it though haha

Look at the dots and dashes in context of the words... there's no possible way it could pertain to info about a release date. Therefore, Blaire is messing with us.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Any news on the mics Expresso?

[Mr Herb]

Blair*

And look at all the crap he posted today . .****a

[Knifeboy]

http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13OA2517NJW2Y05T5ZFLY4BL7H

One track on the chorus.


Your rythm is off, on the verse and the chorus...
And you're singing the wrong melodies at times

Edit: ^^ Because that wasn't really very helpfull at all, I put your vocals take against the real lateralus track so you can hear where your rythm is off (I love how our backing track is so good that it matches rigth up with the original track).. You did the second part of the verse perfect :thumb:

http://s34.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3590CBTIUO58L3MLSC82NLBAFN

Double Edit: And I just checked, Faith doesn't make any mistakes on the drum track at all... They line up almost perfectly all the way through

[Moses]

Ok, well I fixed the verse and I'm going to rerecord the chorus sometime soon so that'll be fixed.

[Mr Herb]

I like yer voice dude. . . its soothing :lol:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Chris, the guitarist for Lateralus said that Marshall enters about half a second too soon on the clean interlude, but you can't even tell because it's a polyrythm in the first place. :p

[Moses]

Wierd though because it matches right up with the real track.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah, Chris is on drugs. That's what I thought. He said that the end sucks, and I'm going to have to agree with him on that. :p

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Its the musicians chain of command I bet. The gutarist cant be wrong, because:

Guitarist > Drummer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bassist.

Vocalists are not involved in the equation, their egos wont let them



I've not downloaded this one yet, ill see what I think (which counts for nothing)

[clearvision]

Anyone spoke to JoZ??? We need the bass to be re-done on aenima + we need a drummer to record the track...

[Moses]

JoZ was kidnapped.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ben- DL it. It's good. :thumb:

Rob- I shall get right on it. He's on AIM, but his status is set to busy. :-/


So what do you guys think of the morse code thing on Blair's update on Toolband? Someone on Toolshed wrote out every single combination. :lol:

[clearvision]

JoZ was kidnapped.

By those rather strang TE forums members i thinks...

Yeah, I don't think anythign can be made of the morse thing....someone got a lead on stittet with some norwegian translation, that's the best i've seen so far...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

So what do you guys think of the morse code thing on Blair's update on Toolband? Someone on Toolshed wrote out every single combination. :lol:

Like I said before, Blair knows people will jump over anything suspicious or with a possible hidden meaning. It woudnt suprise me if it does mean something, but the meaning is going to be something of Blairs, or even the bands own personal amusement

[Moses]

He could say Danny Carey broke his arm and we'd all **** our pants.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Some of his crap has to mean something though.

Ben- Quit PMing me on tdn you bastard!

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Ben- Quit PMing me on tdn you bastard!

:confused:

[metalhead_matt]

the thing i like best about tool is the lyrics. they really mean something

[clearvision]

Haha owned... :)

[metalhead_matt]

owned? i dont get that...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

owned? i dont get that...

I think it was aimed at me....

Im off the ball tonight im guessing

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ben-What's your account on tdn? Tyro has been PMing me about our covers, and his name is Ben, and he says atm. 3 things you share in common- tdn members, named Ben, and say atm. :p Sorry if it isn't you, but I thought you might have been messing with me.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I dont have an tdn account, or at least one I use. So its not me.

And I didnt realsie atm was a phrase that is accustomed with me. Ill start using it more now I bet.

[clearvision]

Well jake threw round the accusations, but if you hadn't PM'd him on the toolshed forums, then he is owned as it wasn't you...

[Huber]

By those rather strang TE forums members i thinks...

Yeah, I don't think anythign can be made of the morse thing....someone got a lead on stittet with some norwegian translation, that's the best i've seen so far...

If by TE you mean The Entertainment....

Hey man, were not strange! That's a pretty good forum....


Edit:

It wont let me make a Toolshed account on there forums because of my e-mail, anyone know why?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Really? I thought you said you did. :-/ Ok, well then uhh never mind. heh. And about atm, You're one of the few people that I've heard say atm, but maybe I was just in too much of a Sherlock Holmes mode searching for crap about Tool. :p

Sliptallica- Is it b/c it's Metallica-related? :confused:

[clearvision]

No i mean 'the end'...where some selected MX'ers hang out...like JoZ

[Moses]

the thing i like best about tool is the lyrics. they really mean something
Maynard himself said that the lyrics only help you tell where the emotion is coming from, they aren't the emotion itself. :thumb:

[Syncratic]

I just saw that Morse Code thing on Toolband....It's not Morse Code.....It kinda stands for a date.

***-**--*--

***M**DD*YY
or
***D**MM*YY

It's just Blair ****ing with us.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

If by TE you mean The Entertainment....

Hey man, were not strange! That's a pretty good forum....


Good forum, pity 90% of the members suck.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Sliptallica- I was owned by the page switch, so no, I do not know. Please explain.

[Moses]

Slip, you should do Aenima drums.

[Huber]

Slip, you should do Aenima drums.

I'll see what I can do.

What happened to Faith? Him and Det Nosnip are probably the most talented drummers that visit R&M.

[Moses]

I'd like to do Ticks and Leeches too but I'm not expecting anyone to do that.

[Huber]

I'd like to do Ticks and Leeches too but I'm not expecting anyone to do that.

Well, Aenima is harder (for me anyways, I've never attempted it). I'd start looking for another person to do Aenima, it'd take me a good while to learn it with my limited playing time.

Sliptallica- I was owned by the page switch, so no, I do not know. Please explain.

Nevermind, I tried a few more e-mails until one worked and got it to work for me.

[ThePatient]

No i mean 'the end'...where some selected MX'ers hang out...like JoZ
I used to be on there all the time until a handful of the members became asses. *cough*strum*cough*eccles*cough*

I'm sorry I haven't been able to finish Ticks and Leeches yet, I've just been going nonstop all week with stuff I can't really put off. :-/

[Moses]

I used to be on there all the time until a handful of the members became asses. *cough*strum*cough*eccles*cough*

I'm sorry I haven't been able to finish Ticks and Leeches yet, I've just been going nonstop all week with stuff I can't really put off. :-/
You should do Lateralus because I don't think we can use JoZ's track can we? And if we can then we have a finished instrumental right there.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think the whole cover competition has died off, so I don't think we have to worry about deadlines any more. Metalhead 617, the guy that was running it, left for 3 weeks on vacation. :shrug: So yeah, no worries about hurrying guys. :)

[Moses]

I don't think Metalhead's the right guy to be running it.........

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

123 to that. I volunteered to take it over, but I haven't seen a response from him. :-/

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I don't think Metalhead's the right guy to be running it.........

I would have liked to have organised it. But then again, i would like to be participating too (stupid finacial restraints)

[Huber]

Me and him kinda stumbled upon the idea in the Metallica thread, and he was really excited about it.

This thread is by far the one farthest ahead, with I think the Megadeth thread far behind in second.

This thread has a song finished right? You guys should bump the rules thread for the competition letting people know you do. Maybe people will get enthusiastic about it again.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Opeth and Rage Against the Machine planned on doing covers, but that didn't work out for either thread. I think Maiden plan on doing some covers, but other than that, I've not heard about anyone else. :-/ I'll bump the rules thread.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

This thread has a song finished right? You guys should bump the rules thread for the competition letting people know you do. Maybe people will get enthusiastic about it again.

Put out an announcement :

The tool thread is gonna pwn you all! We have a song ready, and two more that sound better than anything you guys can do! MJK is teh GOD!


Watch as the entries flood in.

[ThePatient]

I would like to do Lateralus over T&L, so if someone wants to check with Joz about that, that'd be cool. But I still don't think I'd have anything done within a week, I don't think I'll have much downtime this weel either.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah, I'd rather you did Lateralus since it's further along.

[Knifeboy]

The Joz said he's still willing to record some tracks

[Adam Jones is GOD]

The Joz said he's still willing to record some tracks

Lateralus tell him.

Just listened through to the latest one, and am uploading it now to the soundclick site.

(as a reminder, its here: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/thelachrymologists_music.htm )

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yes, he's been willing for 3 months, but has he been putting stuff out? NO! Patient, please do Lateralus. Even if The JoZ suddenly pulls something out of his ***, we would all still appreciate it greatly. :thumb:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

JoZ did get the ball rolling on this entire thing though. it was him posting his little bit of Disposition that started off the masses of bass tracks he uploaded. Then it all went from there.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yes, he has probably put out more stuff than most of us, and it would be useable if it weren't for the Harmony Assistant drums. :p

[Adam Jones is GOD]

They were useful as hell at first though. Im still using them for my random home jams. (just cant record them).

Im sure there were a few that were drumless

[ThePatient]

Ok, I'll do Lateralus. It should come along much faster since I already know the song. I just have to find time when I'm not busy and my house quiet.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Which ones were? All the ones I have (Ænema, Stinkfist, Part of Me) have MIDI drums. :-/

Also, how evil do you guys think it would be to do Parabola in drop D? :p

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Ok, I'll do Lateralus. It should come along much faster since I already know the song. I just have to find time when I'm not busy and my house quiet.

Use Lateralus 2 as a backing. There's enough problems* over timing already.



*moaning

[clearvision]

Yes, he has probably put out more stuff than most of us, and it would be useable if it weren't for the Harmony Assistant drums. :p

and random chimes etc in aenima :p

His stuff was/still is sueful. It would just be great to have a proper track without background noises...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Which ones were? All the ones I have (Ænema, Stinkfist, Part of Me) have MIDI drums. :-/

Also, how evil do you guys think it would be to do Parabola in drop D? :p

It wouldnt be possible, unless you change the key of the song, which means you'll probably lose the mode, and it wont sound as angry.

You could try doing it an octave higher. I did that with Mastodon songs. Oh boy, was that bad.

[Knifeboy]

Use Lateralus 2 as a backing. There's enough problems* over timing already.



*moaning


There's guitar on Lateralus 2?.. If it's chris' guitar, it isn't done yet.. So if you record bass, could you do it on a track by itself so it can be mixed in without having to redo everything whenever there's a change?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Mastodon don't down tune. They do a wierd type of drop tuning. Instead of it being drop D, they drop the 6 string to A to make an octave powerchord. At least that's what I've seen on some tabs and such..

[ThePatient]

Use Lateralus 2 as a backing. There's enough problems* over timing already.
Lateralus 2?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

All individual tracks should be uploaded seperate from the mixed track and put in this thread anyway.

Im not sure who's guitar it is on lateralus, but it sounds pretty done to me. Mixing needs sorting (see point 1), but its played from start to finish

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Mastodon don't down tune. They do a wierd type of drop tuning. Instead of it being drop D, they drop the 6 string to A to make an octave powerchord. At least that's what I've seen on some tabs and such..

Yeah I know. I play the D and A string, as apposed to the thick E. But the sound is too, not-heavy-really. (substitute word in).

They drop a step and like you said, put the E to an A. Works well

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Chris' track isn't quite finished. He wants to redo the pinch harmonics at the end, and the last few chords aren't in the correct place. Oh, 3074326 did the geetarizing, Ben.

[clearvision]

I'm listening to the remix's of only on a NIN site...they actually own... chekc out the second one down, somethign about spooky.

http://www.ninremixes.com/shell.htm

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Cool, im kinda glad its not done, the drums are a bit too dominant in some places. Did Chris mix it himself?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

He didn't really mix it, he just kind of...put them together? He didn't do anything to the tracks, if that's what you're asking.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Ah, gotcha.

(the lazy option then)


And as for NIN, im let down by Fincher's video for Only. True, its cool and shows off his full amazingness of post production. But its just not really, interesting

[centrum]

Does anyone have or know where I can find a backing track for schism?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Hey speaking of remixes and such, does anyone have the lounge versions for either Hooker or Third Eye? I wouldn't think so, but hey it's worth a try..:shrug:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Does anyone have or know where I can find a backing track for schism?

Fraid not, its one of the few that we dont have anything for. You could try searching out a powertab file and muting the guitar. or jsut play along with the track.

[clearvision]

Ah, gotcha.

(the lazy option then)


And as for NIN, im let down by Fincher's video for Only. True, its cool and shows off his full amazingness of post production. But its just not really, interesting

Hmm i loved it, there is a point where trent pushes the glass of the pin thing, and it's just great....some of the shots are sloppy as sh!t though.

To me the song is about trent getting delirious, the vid doesn't really show that, which is kind of annoying....but it's pretty MTV friendly, which might be what trent wanted, however hypocrytical that may be.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Hmm i loved it, there is a point where trent pushes the glass of the pin thing, and it's just great....some of the shots are sloppy as sh!t though.

To me the song is about trent getting delirious, the vid doesn't really show that, which is kind of annoying....but it's pretty MTV friendly, which might be what trent wanted, however hypocrytical that may be.

Yeah, thats what bugged me. His work in the past has been dark and (dare i say it) grungy. (look at Se7en, Fight CLub and Judith video for some really dark looking sets.). This just seems too friendly.

But it still looks great, but just not a lot to it.

And jake, i've not seen any links or sites where those are availble, so cant help you. Im interested in hearing them too, but its not urgent

[centrum]

Fraid not, its one of the few that we dont have anything for. You could try searching out a powertab file and muting the guitar. or jsut play along with the track.


How do you mute the guitar in powertab? You guys should work on a cover of Schism.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

How do you mute the guitar in powertab? You guys should work on a cover of Schism.

Remove the guitar from the tab

Guitar > Guitar In, make sure its not ticked at the start of the score.

Do that with any guitar in the score, there's usually more than 1.

[Moses]

Heh, this is really funny. I was recording and all of the sudden this thing said that Audacity needed to shut down and I had gotten everything timewise fixed and the second verse recorded so I got really mad. Well I threw the mic on the ground and now I can't find it.


EDIT: Ok, found it. Whew....

[Rothmans]

Can you use powertab to make your own tab?

[Mr Herb]

Heh, this is really funny. I was recording and all of the sudden this thing said that Audacity needed to shut down and I had gotten everything timewise fixed and the second verse recorded so I got really mad. Well I threw the mic on the ground and now I can't find it.


EDIT: Ok, found it. Whew....
audicity saves everything even if you loose electricity or anything.Very smart thing to add to it

[Moses]

It didn't save what I had.

[3074326]

Chris' track isn't quite finished. He wants to redo the pinch harmonics at the end, and the last few chords aren't in the correct place. Oh, 3074326 did the geetarizing, Ben.

I got Cool Edit Pro loaded on my new HP Notebook ( :D ) so Lateralus should be done soon. I'm thinking about just re-doing it. It won't really take me that long to re-do.

It needed a few improvements anyways. ;)

[Mr Herb]

It didn't save what I had.
audacity does for you temporarily if you are working on it, but if you close and dont save it then eyr screwed

[Moses]

Okay, I got done with the second chorus, so here's my ****.

http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2B7DGVIKA6XTS3P0P28W200LMC

Please critique with anything you want to say. Whether you like my vocals or not I'll take what you say into consideration.

[clearvision]

The double tracking annoyed me in the verse, I'm sorry :(

Your voice sounds very good pitchwise, it just lacks the aggression the song needs. Try to really push through and project your voice, in the chorus you sort of mumble. You may also need ot open your mouth a little more...

I apologise for the harshness, but that's what i picked up on, i thought you were on pitch most of the time, you just need to be clearer and more aggressive...heh you can slate me when i post tomorrow :)

[Moses]

Oh that wasn't harsh at all. I'll definately fix the double tracking in the verse. Also after I finish the song and do touch ups on 46 & 2 I'll probably redo the chorus in this song. Right now it's not too much of a problem. Thanks clearvision you're always my best critic anyway.

[Daven]

IMO opinion clearvision has said it all, but really you need to fix the agresivity

[Futuro]

WTF!?!?!? i missed 2 days and 8 pages.... anynews on lateralus (me cant record anymore) my drumtrack seems to line up pretty darn well over here, im not sure why its off.

[Knifeboy]

Hey moses.. Was it you that suggested that clearvision held his mic away from his mouth to not make it clip?.. Because if you're doing that in the chorus, that would explain why it sounds kind of distant.. I would suggest finding other ways to make it stop clipping.. Unless you like the distant sound

WTF!?!?!? i missed 2 days and 8 pages.... anynews on lateralus (me cant record anymore) my drumtrack seems to line up pretty darn well over here, im not sure why its off.

Yeah, it isn't, sorry for causing a needless ruckus!

[Moses]

Hey moses.. Was it you that suggested that clearvision held his mic away from his mouth to not make it clip?.. Because if you're doing that in the chorus, that would explain why it sounds kind of distant.. I would suggest finding other ways to make it stop clipping.. Unless you like the distant sound



Yeah, it isn't, sorry for causing a needless ruckus!
I did suggest that but I'm not really holding it away.

Faith check out my vocal track up there.

[Knifeboy]

Oh ok, in the chorus it just sort of sounds like that

[bebubly]

I just saw that Morse Code thing on Toolband....It's not Morse Code.....It kinda stands for a date.

***-**--*--

***M**DD*YY
or
***D**MM*YY

It's just Blair ****ing with us.
no wonder i couldn't figure it out at all :upset:

[Dude3]

Okay, I got done with the second chorus, so here's my ****.

http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2B7DGVIKA6XTS3P0P28W200LMC

Please critique with anything you want to say. Whether you like my vocals or not I'll take what you say into consideration.
Its missing something. You're vocals are good. They are hitting the right notes. It just seems that you aren't pushing them hard enough. Try singing louder, first of all. And possibly add a little rasp? I can't think of the right word. Just make them a little more aggressive I guess.

[Moses]

Well it is missing bass.....

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Okay. I am going to use the whammy effect on my effects processor, and start recording bass. I want more finished crap, and hey, since I have the capabilities of doing so, why not use it? :p Granted, my tone may not sound as gold as Justin's, but hey, some bottom end is better than no bottom end.

[Mr Herb]

Okay, I got done with the second chorus, so here's my ****.

http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2B7DGVIKA6XTS3P0P28W200LMC

Please critique with anything you want to say. Whether you like my vocals or not I'll take what you say into consideration.
I thought they were good enough to be used. . .just be more agressive and perhaps the double tracking on the verse was a lil weird but. . . tis was good

[Futuro]

i might be able to start recording drums again. i recently joined a band, and the bass player has a mixer, and the program cubase. ill have to see if i can record some tracks next time im over there.

New Band = Time away from MX (why my posting has suddenly decreased) :upset:

[Moses]

There was a time where I was in three bands all doing different things in them (plus a girlfriend).

Takes alot of time, but now two of them fell through. So now I have a band and a girlfriend.

[Knifeboy]

I wish I had a band.. Or a girlfriend.. But it seems that both things are impossible to acquire when you're living a crappy place like me

[Moses]

Where do you live ? I live in the ghetto of Milwaukee Wisconsin in America.

[Futuro]

we practice 20+ hours a week. and are going to start playing at top 40 bars. we have already played the Pegasus and Brass mug. hopefully when we stop being lazy we will write some originals, cause top 40 drumming is all pretty bland.

[Mr Herb]

lol am in 2 bands and posibly a thrid one. . .am working on a girlfriend :cool:

[Knifeboy]

I live in Denmark.. In a small town where the last bus to a real city drives at 6 pm

[Moses]

we practice 20+ hours a week. and are going to start playing at top 40 bars. we have already played the Pegasus and Brass mug. hopefully when we stop being lazy we will write some originals, cause top 40 drumming is all pretty bland.
Sounds cool. My band has this habit of not getting together. It sucks.

[Mr Herb]

wow lol poor you dude. that must suck. I live on the capital. . luckily. . .do you get concerts often from popular bands on denmark?

[Moses]

wow lol poor you dude. that must suck. I live on the capital. . luckily. . .do you get concerts often from popular bands on denmark?
We get awesome bands all the time, alot of metal, but no Sounds of the Underground this year.

[Knifeboy]

wow lol poor you dude. that must suck. I live on the capital. . luckily. . .do you get concerts often from popular bands on denmark?

The only chance I really have to see big bands is roskilde festival.. But that does rock quite alot

[Kendal]

tool is annoying

[Knifeboy]

tool is annoying

So's your mom

[Moses]

tool is annoying
Explain.....

[Futuro]

Sounds cool. My band has this habit of not getting together. It sucks.
:cool: very fun, but would be better if our singer was better. (he has a problem of being very pitchy at times) the rest of us play together really well, and all the guys have nice gear, jobs, and cars (makes getting together much more fun and very easy)

[Kendal]

Explain.....

i dislike there music

[Moses]

:cool: very fun, but would be better if our singer was better. (he has a problem of being very pitchy at times) the rest of us play together really well, and all the guys have nice gear, jobs, and cars (makes getting together much more fun and very easy)
Heh, I'll sing for you..........

I just need a ride.

[Moses]

i dislike there music
What about it do you dislike?

Also why would you want to tell other people in a TOOL THREAD that you don't like them?

[Futuro]

Heh, I'll sing for you..........

I just need a ride.
are you in florida? if so, what area

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Marshall, did you ever figure out your recording problem?

Moses, don't double post. I warned you once yesterday, and you didn't fix it, so you may want to delete/merge before I report your arse!

[Kendal]

What about it do you dislike?

Also why would you want to tell other people in a TOOL THREAD that you don't like them?

i feel like expressing my opinon. they are a angry band

[Knifeboy]

Marshall, did you ever figure out your recording problem?


There was none

[Kendal]

never mine i am going to exclued meself from this tread

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Wait, you're Marshall as well, Knifeboy? I was talking to Faith+1, sorry. :p

Oh, and would anyone have powertabs for Reflection and The Patient by any chance? If so, could you please YSI them to me stat?

Guy that doesn't like Tool- We have no problem with people disliking Tool here, but you did very little to back your opinion up. them being annoying and angry are very subjective, and really do very little to support your opinion.

[Knifeboy]

No no, I just assumed you were talking about the drum part error.. And it was a mistake on my and chris' part , there is none

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

There's an error in the drum part? :eek:Never mind.. So uhh, when are you gonna be recording some vocals Knifeboy?

[Futuro]

Marshall, did you ever figure out your recording problem?
no such luck. but as posted earlier the bass player has "close to pro" recording gear. he has real nice drums at his house also (i just bring over my cymbals, 16 inch crashes wont cut it for me) ill have to ask him before i can say "fo-sho" i am able to record, but it is a possibility.

[Knifeboy]

I've already recorded about half of the vocals... Doing several takes to get the rythm down perfectly... I'll have time again to record wednesday... I might even be done by friday

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Marshall- Hey, that sounds like a sweet deal. Did you ever sort out your difficulties with Stinkfist?

Knifeboy- Just out of curiosity, what programs/mics are you using?

[Futuro]

Hell ya :cool: got stinkfist on lockdown

[3074326]

No no, I just assumed you were talking about the drum part error.. And it was a mistake on my and chris' part , there is none

I'm not on the computer with the drum track on it, but it does sync up?

I played the two together and it was just a bit off on that one part. Could've been my computer though.

I hope it was the computer. :)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm thinking it's your computer, but that is kind of wierd...Like I said though, it would be hard to tell it was off because it's already a polyrythm. :shrug:

[Futuro]

Was i not coming in with Danny? Or is it off from the rythmic hi hat ticking

also i play in 5 while you and bass play in 6, so my four hits on the bass drum wont always match with the four open D's on the bass.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yes, I beleive it's a 5/8 to 12/8 polyrythm, methinks, but Chris seems to think that your entrance is off. Everyone thinks it's fine, so I'm going to say that Chris is on drugs. :lol:

[3074326]

The hi-hats sounded good, but the snare/bass drum part sounded like it came in a bit too early. After that, everything came back together perfectly. The notes on the 6th string on the guitar should sync up with the bass drum, if I'm not mistaken.

I'll load Lateralus on this computer in a few minutes. I just downloaded your drum track. I'll get back to you if the same thing happens on this computer. If I still here it, I'll live with it. I'm just really, really, really picky. :p

Great track though. I was very impressed, especially since you've only been playing for about four years apparantly?

If someone wants to YSI Lateralus (song), feel free. ;)

[Futuro]

where is my drumtrack at on the internet? link please.

:edit: im a dumb ***