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Dr. Jake Destructo
06-25-2005, 11:30 PM
Yeah...It seems like a long time, but considering that in the 5 or so weeks we've been working on this, we've not finished one song. :-/

We're close I suppose.

/busts out 8 foot bong/totem pole

:confetti:

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-26-2005, 01:05 AM
tee hee marijuana roffle mao zedong!1one

clearvision
06-26-2005, 05:31 AM
Hmm interesting night...

After recent events (second last page L+R) i couldn't sleep, stayed on MX till about 2 then headed off to bed...

I got about 2 hrs sleep total at about 9:30. I listened to every tool album bar salival, and some dream theater and the cure :emo: I remembered people talking about just sitting there and absorbing the music, so i thought i'd give it a try. I ended up just listening to the drums really, it wasn't really a pleasant experience, i was too fidgety, for it to be cool i'd need to be more relaxed. Also i didn't cue up salival properly, which was not good :(

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-26-2005, 12:21 PM
Hey - can somebody find the article about Tool performing at some sort of scientology event a while back? I just thought that the story was hilarious. Something about the band bahhing like sheep at the crowd. :lol:

YouGottaBeCrazy
06-26-2005, 01:25 PM
Attn. Limp Bizkit has a progressive 16:28 minute song. It's very Toolesque.

If you are talking about Everything, than you have no clue what Tool is about. That song is extremely boring to listen to. There's no progression to the song whatsover and frankly, the fact that you say it's Toolesque, pretty much insults Tool to the highest degree. Listen to "Third Eye" and than listen to "Everything." Note the difference. Look man, I respect your opinion, but please stop talking about LB on here. You already started a thread about 3 Dollar Bill Y'all. Yet you post those garbage Durst lyrics in this thread. Why? It's quite unfitting considering the fact that you posted it in a Tool thread, and Tool has very good lyrics (especially on the last 2 cds).

Kage
06-26-2005, 01:27 PM
I agree that Everything is actually a pretty boring spurt of ambient noise. But he can talk about it in here if he wants, because this is a more a thread for Tool fans to come together and converse, since not too much is happening Tool-wise.

I guess we could over-analyze every second of Lateralus every day, but there are limits as to how many things we can talk about with literally no news coming from the Tool front.

Mr Herb
06-26-2005, 02:12 PM
LB on a tool thread. Thats like John Kerry on the republican convention. Anyways.

Can someone show me a list of the drummers that have perfomed triad lvie with tool.Or at least mention a few?

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-26-2005, 02:25 PM
LB on a tool thread. Thats like John Kerry on the republican convention. Anyways.

Can someone show me a list of the drummers that have perfomed triad lvie with tool.Or at least mention a few?

LB suck, don't get me wrong. (yes, I have heard more than enough to know what I'm talking about). But, believe it or not, LB were influenced greatly by Tool.

Mr Herb
06-26-2005, 03:01 PM
I bet they were but it dont matter cause Fred Durst sucks so much.

Wats yer point dude?

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-26-2005, 03:03 PM
I bet they were but it dont matter cause Fred Durst sucks so much.

Wats yer point dude?

It means that if Moses wants to talk about LB in here, then he can.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-26-2005, 03:07 PM
Kage- Are you on AIM now?

Enough with the Fred Durst hating guys. He is good at what he does.*


























*He's not a musician, he's a marketing man. :lol:

Yeah, and Moses, just because the song is 16 minutes long doesn't make it progressive. Look at Disgustipated. It may be more of a filler track, but either way, it's not a progressive song, even though it is a very long track. I'm sure there are plenty of 5 minute songs that are more progressive than this Limp Bizkit song.

Mr Herb
06-26-2005, 03:08 PM
Alright. but i dunno, thats the second or third lpb convo in recent memory, I dont the lp topic should be abused. but w/e, slightly more interesting than all the cover talk.

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-26-2005, 03:24 PM
I agree... the cover talk is quite boring,

Lateralias
06-26-2005, 03:43 PM
Especially when you don't take part :(

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-26-2005, 03:45 PM
Yeah, it's fun when you have something to do with the covers, but I can see how you guys would get bored just watching us have all the fun. :lol:

Mr Herb
06-26-2005, 03:57 PM
Hey at least the covers have inspired me to start working on stuff for the band so that I can show it to anyone online. Ive already worked out 3 songs this week :)


I wonder why the covers have taken so lonf, The laterlaus part I heard only needed vocals and some dude had already singed a bit.

Futuro
06-26-2005, 04:38 PM
LB on a tool thread. Thats like John Kerry on the republican convention. Anyways.

Can someone show me a list of the drummers that have perfomed triad lvie with tool.Or at least mention a few?
thomas haake and terry bozzio are the only ones i now of but im sure there has been more :)

Kage
06-26-2005, 04:44 PM
Kage- Are you on AIM now?
No.

Doomed To Crumble
06-26-2005, 05:03 PM
hey i just heard that 46&2 cover and i just want to say that it was amazing, and extra props to the drummer.:)

Mr Herb
06-26-2005, 05:19 PM
:amaze: thomas haake and terry bozzio are the only ones i now of but im sure there has been more :) who do they play for?

Darkness
06-26-2005, 05:22 PM
Tomas Haake = Meshuggah... very amazingly good drummer.

Futuro
06-26-2005, 05:24 PM
:amaze: who do they play for?
teryy bozzio = GOD

thomas haake = overplays polyrythms that arent that musical, but is still good

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-26-2005, 06:13 PM
Meshuggah is all about playing unmusical stuff, but I greatly admire them for their abilities in collaboratively writing a piece of that fits together, but would not fit anywhere else.

Stengah- I think it's in 13/8 time. wtf? :lol: I think the most impressive part about that song is that their guitarist(s) solo is also in that time sig. It's hard enough to solo as well as they do, but to do it in a funky time sig, that's doubly impressive.

BlindWriting
06-26-2005, 06:17 PM
thomas haake and terry bozzio are the only ones i now of but im sure there has been more :)
Woah. When did that happen?
Dare I ask, is there a video? Or at the very least, pixplzkthx?

BlindWriting
06-26-2005, 06:22 PM
Stengah- I think it's in 13/8 time. wtf? :lol:
The thing about odd time is that the more you play it, and the more beats that you create in, say, 9/8, 12/8, or even 25/8, which I've been working with recently, the less complex it beings to feel to your ears.

When I first heard Danny Carey and Tomas Haake play in their respective bands, I was boggled by the rhythms and the way they sounded. So, I began dabbling in odd time, starting with the usual 5/4, 7/4. 9/8 type of thing. (I don't consider 6/8 or 3/4 odd.) By the time I was working with weird compound times such as 12/8, 15/8, 26/8, and the like, you begin to understand them, and listen to them, in a much different way.

Once you free yourself from the habit of counting and playing in fours, you'll be surprised at what you can do simply.

To sum it up: practice!

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-26-2005, 06:22 PM
thomas haake and terry bozzio are the only ones i now of but im sure there has been more :)

Terry Bozzio? He may be the best drummer who ever lived in my eyes.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-26-2005, 06:23 PM
I wonder why the covers have taken so lonf, The laterlaus part I heard only needed vocals and some dude had already singed a bit.

We're not using that one. The drums are MIDI. The guy that posted it never showed up again, so I don't think we should use it. :shrug: Plus, we have a perfectly good drum track already, so why would we want to use the MIDI drums?

Who does Terry Bozzio play for?

BW- The hard part is constructing something listenable out of it.

BlindWriting
06-26-2005, 06:28 PM
Bozzio played for Frank Zappa, I believe. He had a song called The Black Page which is one of his most famous drum solos. Overall, still one of the best living players.

ThePatient
06-26-2005, 07:35 PM
I think I'll be good to go with the Ticks & Leeches cover if anyone wanted to put that together. There's just parts in there where I can't here a thing on the bass, so little parts may be self-written.

*waits for Joz to pop in with a recording playing the song behind his back*

Futuro
06-26-2005, 07:41 PM
The thing about odd time is that the more you play it, and the more beats that you create in, say, 9/8, 12/8, or even 25/8, which I've been working with recently, the less complex it beings to feel to your ears.

When I first heard Danny Carey and Tomas Haake play in their respective bands, I was boggled by the rhythms and the way they sounded. So, I began dabbling in odd time, starting with the usual 5/4, 7/4. 9/8 type of thing. (I don't consider 6/8 or 3/4 odd.) By the time I was working with weird compound times such as 12/8, 15/8, 26/8, and the like, you begin to understand them, and listen to them, in a much different way.

Once you free yourself from the habit of counting and playing in fours, you'll be surprised at what you can do simply.

To sum it up: practice!

your odd times suck .....go to the drumforum and learn how to count properly cause 25/8 is just playing 5 bars of 5, which would be easier, and if its impossible to count your 25 rythm in 5 explain how you are counting and i will tell you if you are right, and if im just being an asshole.

YouGottaBeCrazy
06-26-2005, 08:20 PM
your odd times suck .....go to the drumforum and learn how to count properly cause 25/8 is just playing 5 bars of 5, which would be easier, and if its impossible to count your 25 rythm in 5 explain how you are counting and i will tell you if you are right, and if im just being an asshole.

How is 25/8 5 bars of 5? That would be 25/4 timing. 25/8 timing is 5 bars of 5/8 timing (which is 2.5 beats, not 5). Now, last time I checked, 5/8 timing is a little strange to play in.

Futuro
06-26-2005, 08:46 PM
How is 25/8 5 bars of 5? That would be 25/4 timing. 25/8 timing is 5 bars of 5/8 timing (which is 2.5 beats, not 5). Now, last time I checked, 5/8 timing is a little strange to play in.

:rolleyes: when phrasing odd times into sentences you normally stay on one note duration, or else notate what duration you are speaking about at the time of change. If you have ever even glanced at sheet music you would know this. Good example would be symphony X, they have a passage that refers to a triplet style 23/16, the next passage is a 21/16, there is no notation of what the note duration is for this, because most people educated in odd times will know that 21/4 is plain idiotic.

And since when does everything revolve around quarter notes? if things were how you say (which they arent) then saying 5 by itself would be like saying 5/1 not 5/4, like you said. (5/1 would be plain stupid)

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-26-2005, 08:52 PM
Educate yourself in punctuation. :lol:

Futuro
06-26-2005, 08:56 PM
Educate yourself in punctuation. :lol:
Fixed......... now educate yourself in life and stop being a grammer nazi.

YouGottaBeCrazy
06-26-2005, 09:05 PM
:rolleyes: when phrasing odd times into sentences you normally stay on one note duration or else notate what duration you are speaking about at the time of change because if you have ever even glanced at sheet music you would know this. good example would be symphony X they have a passage that refers to a triplet style 23/16 the next passage is a 21/16 there is no notation of what the note duration is for this because most people educated in odd times will know that 21/4 is plain idiotic.

And since when does everything revolve around quarter notes? if things were how you say (which they arent) then saying 5 by itself would be like saying 5/1 not 5/4, like you said. (5/1 would be plain stupid)

Wow, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. You said 25/8 is 5 bars of 5. That is exactly what you said. And than in this post you say that saying 5 by itself would be like saying 5/1 not 5/4, "like I said." Well, you said 5 by itself. When you refer to the number of beats in a bar, it is most often based off of quarter notes. For example, let's use 5/4 b/c as I hope you know, 5/1 isn't an actual timing. Divide 5 by 4. It equals 1.25. Multiply that by 4, it equals 5. Quarter notes is what almost every musician uses and bases things like this off of. 4/4 has 4 beats in it. 3/4 has 3. 5/4 has 5. 5/8 has 2.5 beats in it (or if you prefer, 5 eigth notes). 5/4 and 5/8 are not the same thing (same goes for 21/16 and 21/4). The reason quarter notes are used most often is because it's the easiest to use and it's extremely unusual to have a bar that is less than one quarter note.

Futuro
06-26-2005, 09:11 PM
Wow, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. You said 25/8 is 5 bars of 5. That is exactly what you said. And than in this post you say that saying 5 by itself would be like saying 5/1 not 5/4, "like I said." Well, you said 5 by itself. When you refer to the number of beats in a bar, it is most often based off of quarter notes. For example, let's use 5/4 b/c as I hope you know, 5/1 isn't an actual timing. Divide 5 by 4. It equals 1.25. Multiply that by 4, it equals 5. Quarter notes is what almost every musician uses and bases things like this off of. 4/4 has 4 beats in it. 3/4 has 3. 5/4 has 5. 5/8 has 2.5 beats in it (or if you prefer, 5 eigth notes). 5/4 and 5/8 are not the same thing (same goes for 21/16 and 21/4). The reason quarter notes are used most often is because it's the easiest to use and it's extremely unusual to have a bar that is less than one quarter note.
you need to reread my post.

Rounder
06-26-2005, 09:14 PM
How is 25/8 5 bars of 5? That would be 25/4 timing. 25/8 timing is 5 bars of 5/8 timing (which is 2.5 beats, not 5). Now, last time I checked, 5/8 timing is a little strange to play in.

umm this post confuses and angers me. I havnet read sheet music in a long time, but the way Ive always understood time signatures is this. The first note in the fraction is how many notes in the measure. The second note is the type/duration of the note.

7/8= seven eighth notes per measure.
7/4 seven quarter notes per measure.

25/8 would be one measure with 25 eighth notes.
25/4 would be one measure with 25 quarter notes.

also, its only important to have all your notes equal what the time signature reads. You can have a dotted eighth note followed by 2 quarter notes and that would be 5/8.

or so i think.

YouGottaBeCrazy
06-26-2005, 09:14 PM
Your post makes more sense now that you edited it, but you need to reread my post because you don't seem to be understanding what I'm saying.

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-26-2005, 09:15 PM
Fixed......... now educate yourself in life and stop being a grammer nazi.

I'm not even close to a grammar Nazi. Just don't insult someone's intelligence and compose a post that is unintelligible. Now continue with your meaningless time sig pissing contest...

Futuro
06-26-2005, 09:15 PM
correct rounder ^

SmashingPumpkin
06-26-2005, 09:16 PM
This is probably pointless because probably no one knows, but any new news on the next Tool album? Last I heard, it was to be released this fall.

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-26-2005, 09:19 PM
This is probably pointless because probably no one knows, but any new news on the next Tool album? Last I heard, it was to be released this fall.

It's all speculation, but yeah... your guess is as good as anyone's. Next fall SEEMS to be a good guess.

YouGottaBeCrazy
06-26-2005, 09:22 PM
Hmm, you guys are right. Sorry, I was way over my head with that.

Your music theory skills > My theory skills.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-26-2005, 11:19 PM
Patient- The JoZ isn't really mxing any more. :-/ Do you think that instead of Ticks and Leeches you could do Eulogy? Or both? I'm trying to incorporate 307 into this, and he wants to do Eulogy. :shrug: Maybe I shall beckon him to this thread so we can talk.

Kage
06-26-2005, 11:21 PM
You should beckon him. This thread needs some reviving.

Huber
06-26-2005, 11:23 PM
So we are down a JoZ?

BlindWriting
06-26-2005, 11:27 PM
your odd times suck .....go to the drumforum and learn how to count properly cause 25/8 is just playing 5 bars of 5, which would be easier, and if its impossible to count your 25 rythm in 5 explain how you are counting and i will tell you if you are right, and if im just being an asshole.
Not to beat a dead horse, but...

1. Firstly, I meant 26/8. A simple typo. I mentioned 26 later.

2. If I'm playing something like 9/8, I don't break it up into 3, 3, and 3. If I'm playing 15/8, I don't break it up into 5, 5, and 5, etc.

3. You seem like a much more musically knowledgable guy, so I guess I misunderstood something with my own stuff.

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-26-2005, 11:30 PM
Could someone please send part 1 of the oklahoma concert? Please?

Huber
06-26-2005, 11:31 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but...

1. Firstly, I meant 26/8. A simple typo. I mentioned 26 later.

2. If I'm playing something like 9/8, I don't break it up into 3, 3, and 3. If I'm playing 15/8, I don't break it up into 5, 5, and 5, etc.

3. You seem like a much more musically knowledgable guy, so I guess I misunderstood something with my own stuff.

About number 2...it really helps to split them up, you should try and get used to it.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-26-2005, 11:32 PM
Ok guys, I come to you bearing more good news.

MagicalTroll is going to do Stinkfist bass, and he said perhaps Lateralus.

We're not quite down a JoZ, but he's been absent for quite some time...:-/ I talk to him, and he says he'll have them done, but he always 'get's busy' or something. :p

I'll IM Chris and ask him to join us.

Mr Herb
06-26-2005, 11:35 PM
If i had a mic id do the bass :(

3074326
06-26-2005, 11:38 PM
Hello

I have been beckoned.

I'll do about anything, as long as it's not Prison Sex and it's not Hooker with a Penis.

Huber
06-26-2005, 11:40 PM
Hoorah! An able bassist who posts in this thread!

Kage
06-26-2005, 11:40 PM
Isn't he a guitarist?

Huber
06-26-2005, 11:43 PM
No idea, I thought we already had plenty of guitarists...so...yeah

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-26-2005, 11:43 PM
Then go down to la bodega and buy one for like ten bucks! :lol:

Allright, I"m going to try and type out all of the lineups so far. (I'm putting them in order of guitarist, vocalist, drummer, bassist)



Stinkfist
Dr. Jake Destructo
Moses
Faith+1
MagicalTroll (II lol)

Lateralus
307etc..
Moses/Merkaba
Faith+1
The JoZ/MagicalTroll?

46&2
Rounder
Moses
Matter
Rounder


Ænema
Clearvision
Clearvision??
Faith+1
The JoZ????
.................................................. ..............

These are fairly tentative at the moment

Parabola
Kage?
?
?
ThePatient?

Ticks&Leeches
Dr. Jake Destructo
Moses
Sliptallica/Faith+1
ThePatient

Mr Herb
06-26-2005, 11:44 PM
Hoorah! An able bassist who posts in this thread!
Am an able bassist :( jsut odnt have a ****ing mic.

3074326
06-26-2005, 11:44 PM
I'll do guitars for Lateralus.

Should I record with my stereo capabilities or should I keep my track panned to one side?

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-26-2005, 11:46 PM
Since you do have a POD and you could get the highest quality out of us all, I think it would be suiting if you did so, Chris. :thumb:

3074326
06-26-2005, 11:47 PM
Heck yeah man.

Check my last post for an edit.

Kage
06-26-2005, 11:48 PM
My recording quality is great, I just haven't had the time to really get a good recording yet. I've been recording a lot with my own band lately, so all my time is used up with that, and I'm usually burned out of it by the end of our sessions.

Huber
06-26-2005, 11:48 PM
Am an able bassist :( jsut odnt have a ****ing mic.

That's kinda what I meant by able.

How much is a POD? and where can I learn about it?

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-26-2005, 11:51 PM
Does anyone know Faith's soundclick?

Kage-No hurry man. Just within the next 5 weeks, of course. :p

3074326
06-26-2005, 11:51 PM
That's kinda what I meant by able.

How much is a POD? and where can I learn about it?

The most expensive one is the XT Live. It's $399.99 USD. I can teach you about it if you want. :p

I'll have to start working on a Toolish tone. I have loads of metal ones.

Huber
06-26-2005, 11:54 PM
The most expensive one is the XT Live. It's $399.99 USD. I can teach you about it if you want. :p

I'll have to start working on a Toolish tone. I have loads of metal ones.

NVM, it wasn't what I thought it was.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-27-2005, 12:00 AM
You can get one of those red kidney shaped ones for like 200 though, can't you? Those are still pretty pristine.

Chris- That tone on your solo sounded fairly close to me. :-/ All you really need is some distortion and delay. :lol:

Below me- mod spam. :eek:

3074326
06-27-2005, 12:01 AM
Haha, I'll start dialing in a tone right now.

I'll be back in a while.

Mr.Poupon
06-27-2005, 01:03 AM
Hi, I'm new here but not to this thread. A few points. I'm not 16. These covers better be topnotch when they're finally done, and where the hell did Ken go?

magicaltrollII
06-27-2005, 01:08 AM
Isn't he a guitarist?
If you're talking about me, then yes, I am a guitarist. But I can play bass just as good, I play it alot in this church band me and my friend play in everyonce in awhile.

I'm gonna try to have the tracks up on... Tuesday-ish.

3074326
06-27-2005, 01:11 AM
I started the guitars for Lateralus.

The drumming is very good. It's also on time with the album. :D The guitars are going well so far. For the distorted parts, I have two different tones, one panned to each side.

ThePatient
06-27-2005, 10:31 AM
Parabola
Kage?
?
?
ThePatient?

Ticks&Leeches
Dr. Jake Destructo
Moses
Sliptallica/Faith+1
ThePatient

Ticks & Leeches should be ok. And Parabola may take some time. Either way, I need to try to make my recording sound better. Right now I haven't been able to balance the volume well enough for anything to sound respectable.

clearvision
06-27-2005, 10:51 AM
If i can work out how to use my mic properly i can do vox for aenima, if not someone else will have to add them or just not use it. The background noise is irritating too and it has midi drums + i need to re-record my guitars.

Moses
06-27-2005, 01:00 PM
If you are talking about Everything, than you have no clue what Tool is about. That song is extremely boring to listen to. There's no progression to the song whatsover and frankly, the fact that you say it's Toolesque, pretty much insults Tool to the highest degree. Listen to "Third Eye" and than listen to "Everything." Note the difference. Look man, I respect your opinion, but please stop talking about LB on here. You already started a thread about 3 Dollar Bill Y'all. Yet you post those garbage Durst lyrics in this thread. Why? It's quite unfitting considering the fact that you posted it in a Tool thread, and Tool has very good lyrics (especially on the last 2 cds).
You need to go die.......... I know enough about Tool and I've been in this thread for a couple months. If you had been here you'd know that this is more of a community thread for Tool fans. I was posting somthing that I felt like talking about at the moment. There's no need for you to come in late, bash somthing that I like, then tell me to stop posting about somthing that I felt I wanted to at the moment. Also if you didn't notice I made the thread to talk about it there. Shut up.

Also the Toolesqe comment was just because, in my mind it makes the same type of atmosphere.

Kage
06-27-2005, 01:03 PM
Hi, I'm new here but not to this thread. A few points. I'm not 16. These covers better be topnotch when they're finally done, and where the hell did Ken go?
Weird first post, but welcome, I guess.

clearvision
06-27-2005, 01:11 PM
Snyped...

Spam? I don't think so...

Editing is cool :cool:

Kage
06-27-2005, 01:12 PM
Let's just leave it at that, no need to drag it onto the next page.

Moses
06-27-2005, 01:17 PM
A page back we were on the subject of Terry Bozzio.....

I have a video of him soloing and if anyone wants to see it let me know.......

IvortheEngineDriver
06-27-2005, 01:18 PM
When Tool tours again, I am sure everyone here is going to try and go as many times possible. I don't care where I have to fly, I'm going...

When I saw APC last year, I kinda just sat back in my chair and was in complete awe, I didn't get into it, but I was completely absorbed...I'm not sure if anyone else had a similar experience or not. I just remember feeling like I've been punched in the stomach the whole concert, I was numb to actually be able to hear the music live and see the band, especially Maynard perform. I remember when he sang Orestes, I just kinda let my jaw hit the floor and close my eyes and I was gone...I almost got emotional, it was just beautiful.

Will anyone do the same w/ Tool? I don't want to be in the Mosh Pit, I just kinda want to just lose myself in the music and not be distracted by anything/anyone...I want to just connect, if that makes any sense. This might make any sense whatsoever, but I was just wondering if anyone will do the same.

/preps himself for flaming

Moses
06-27-2005, 01:20 PM
When Tool tours again, I am sure everyone here is going to try and go as many times possible. I don't care where I have to fly, I'm going...

When I saw APC last year, I kinda just sat back in my chair and was in complete awe, I didn't get into it, but I was completely absorbed...I'm not sure if anyone else had a similar experience or not. I just remember feeling like I've been punched in the stomach the whole concert, I was numb to actually be able to hear the music live and see the band, especially Maynard perform. I remember when he sang Orestes, I just kinda let my jaw hit the floor and close my eyes and I was gone...I almost got emotional, it was just beautiful.

Will anyone do the same w/ Tool? I don't want to be in the Mosh Pit, I just kinda want to just lose myself in the music and not be distracted by anything/anyone...I want to just connect, if that makes any sense. This might make any sense whatsoever, but I was just wondering if anyone will do the same.

/preps himself for flaming

EDIT:I'd mosh for somthing that couldn't catch my attention musically.

clearvision
06-27-2005, 01:22 PM
I will be @ the front at tool, anyone moshing will be a little kid, and so will get knocked the fvck out by me and probably other fans. Though moshing normally doesn't take place right at the barrier is should be alright. If the support is moshable i may give it a go though.

EDIT : Moses, you suck :( (see reference to opening acts)

magicaltrollII
06-27-2005, 01:23 PM
When Tool tours again, I am sure everyone here is going to try and go as many times possible. I don't care where I have to fly, I'm going...

When I saw APC last year, I kinda just sat back in my chair and was in complete awe, I didn't get into it, but I was completely absorbed...I'm not sure if anyone else had a similar experience or not. I just remember feeling like I've been punched in the stomach the whole concert, I was numb to actually be able to hear the music live and see the band, especially Maynard perform. I remember when he sang Orestes, I just kinda let my jaw hit the floor and close my eyes and I was gone...I almost got emotional, it was just beautiful.

Will anyone do the same w/ Tool? I don't want to be in the Mosh Pit, I just kinda want to just lose myself in the music and not be distracted by anything/anyone...I want to just connect, if that makes any sense. This might make any sense whatsoever, but I was just wondering if anyone will do the same.

/preps himself for flaming

That's EXACTLY what I'd like to do at a concert like that.
So that got me thinking, that I probably wouldn't bring a friend, seeing how all my friends aren't into Tool the way I am really. It's just another cool band for them. And there's nothing wrong with that, but they would just be distracting me when I'm trying to "connect".

Moses
06-27-2005, 01:26 PM
EDIT : Moses, you suck :( (see reference to opening acts)
Fix'd

I've been getting quite a bit of hate lately....

Kage
06-27-2005, 01:34 PM
I certainly won't be moshing at a Tool concert.

ThePatient
06-27-2005, 01:34 PM
Yeah, that's what I'd do. That's what I did at Mars Volta a few months back, except there were no seats. I'm not into moshing anyway.

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-27-2005, 01:45 PM
I certainly won't be moshing at a Tool concert.

123. It's totally the atmosphere that I love. I won't be head-banging either, obviously...

Moses
06-27-2005, 02:00 PM
It's crazy how many people actually do mosh at Tool concerts....

BlindWriting
06-27-2005, 02:02 PM
Oh, the anticipation:


UNEARTHLINKED
For various reasons, I am switching my internet provider tomorrow and therefore might be living in the Stone Age for a day or so. Hopefully, it will be a smooth transition, and when I get back online I will give you the skinny on this "Teleincision" business that I keep getting emails about.

I'm sure a lot of you read Toolband, but here it is for anyone who hasn't seen this.

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-27-2005, 02:07 PM
It's crazy how many people actually do mosh at Tool concerts....

I dislike a lot of Tool fans.

magicaltrollII
06-27-2005, 02:10 PM
Oh, the anticipation:



I'm sure a lot of you read Toolband, but here it is for anyone who hasn't seen this.
Man... He needs to hurry up then.

3074326
06-27-2005, 03:17 PM
I hope they play somewhere with seats in Ohio. Too many idiots ruin concerts..

Can't wait for the album though.

Txus
06-27-2005, 03:40 PM
When Tool tours again, I am sure everyone here is going to try and go as many times possible. I don't care where I have to fly, I'm going...

When I saw APC last year, I kinda just sat back in my chair and was in complete awe, I didn't get into it, but I was completely absorbed...I'm not sure if anyone else had a similar experience or not. I just remember feeling like I've been punched in the stomach the whole concert, I was numb to actually be able to hear the music live and see the band, especially Maynard perform. I remember when he sang Orestes, I just kinda let my jaw hit the floor and close my eyes and I was gone...I almost got emotional, it was just beautiful.

Will anyone do the same w/ Tool? I don't want to be in the Mosh Pit, I just kinda want to just lose myself in the music and not be distracted by anything/anyone...I want to just connect, if that makes any sense. This might make any sense whatsoever, but I was just wondering if anyone will do the same.

/preps himself for flaming

That is exactly how i feel about going to a tool concert i will just smoke some pot and loose myself in the beauty of the music. :D

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 03:43 PM
UNEARTHLINKED
For various reasons, I am switching my internet provider tomorrow and therefore might be living in the Stone Age for a day or so. Hopefully, it will be a smooth transition, and when I get back online I will give you the skinny on this "Teleincision" business that I keep getting emails about.

NOW WHERE WAS I...

Oh yeah, "Teleincision." If only it was that easy. Justin and Shelee's store is called Lobal Orning! Here's what one emailer wrote: ""Teleincision is the big new Tool rumor right now, but what most people don't know is that its origin was from the toolshed.down.net opinion forum." So, perhaps, we can put this one to rest?



From tooband.
Can anyone think up why the hell would Blair mention Justins store there? Theres probably something scretet there! someone must decode it :) or its just probably bull

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 03:44 PM
Tool will never ever come to puerto rico and I will only fly to the US once this year for a school thngt. :(

BlindWriting
06-27-2005, 03:46 PM
Of course, Blair would never be direct with anyone. What the hell was I thinking?

So does this mean Teleincision was just a fan-made rumor, nothing more?

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 03:51 PM
Now that I think about it, its jsut bull, hes telling us right there that it was originated in the tool shed opinion forum. bah sucks. blair is one clever dude. Anyways am gonna hope its true.

bass24
06-27-2005, 03:58 PM
this is the offical tool thread, tooooooools. go hit another power chord fags.

BlindWriting
06-27-2005, 04:02 PM
Thank you drive through.

magicaltrollII
06-27-2005, 04:04 PM
this is the offical tool thread, tooooooools. go hit another power chord fags.
wtf

Rothmans
06-27-2005, 04:04 PM
this is the offical tool thread, tooooooools. go hit another power chord fags.

What?

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:07 PM
this is the offical tool thread, tooooooools. go hit another power chord fags. I wanna hit your mom :thumb:

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-27-2005, 04:10 PM
this is the offical tool thread, tooooooools. go hit another power chord fags.

Swing and a miss. :thumb:

Rothmans
06-27-2005, 04:12 PM
Hey have the tour dates been announced or something?

3074326
06-27-2005, 04:12 PM
this is the offical tool thread, tooooooools. go hit another power chord fags.

I don't know what you said, but you should probably leave now.

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:15 PM
Hey have the tour dates been announced or something?
Yes, July one first concert on Alaska, Aroon Carter will be opening :p

Kage
06-27-2005, 04:15 PM
Damn Blair and his cryptic ways!

Rothmans
06-27-2005, 04:20 PM
Yes, July one first concert on Alaska, Aroon Carter will be opening :p

Is that sarcasm?

DOnt play with my heart like that.

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:20 PM
But I think that was pretty easy to decifer. jsut a rumor it seems. Hope its not.

Kage
06-27-2005, 04:21 PM
I know, but that's just the thing. I wish he would just come out and say what he means. Okay, so the Teleincision rumor isn't true, but what the hell is?

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:21 PM
Is that sarcasm?

DOnt play with my heart like that.lol just messing around, inject some life into this thread. :)

Lateralias
06-27-2005, 04:23 PM
Blair is right though.. this all started at Toolnavy.. (Toolshed forums)

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:23 PM
I know, but that's just the thing. I wish he would just come out and say what he means. Okay, so the Teleincision rumor isn't true, but what the hell is?
Who knows. If he jsut came out and said stuff itd be sorta better but I dunno, itd be lest thrilling i guess. Still hes jsut way to secretive sometimes

BlindWriting
06-27-2005, 04:24 PM
I guess the infamous http://www.teleincision.com is all fan-created bull as well.

Kage
06-27-2005, 04:26 PM
It could be band-created bull.

Rothmans
06-27-2005, 04:26 PM
I guess the infamous http://www.teleincision.com is all fan-created bull as well.


Yeah they even said on tool navy that it was.

Lateralias
06-27-2005, 04:26 PM
All I can say to you guys that are starving for Tool news (me included) is that when we hear the album... it'll be one massive dose of heroin. Tool might take their sweet time between albums (an average of 4 years) but they make up for what they release.

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:27 PM
ah how I wish it was true, but who knows perhaps its true.


Volto is the ****.

Lateralias
06-27-2005, 04:28 PM
ah how I wish it was true, but who knows perhaps its true.


Volto is the ****.

Yeah I really dig Volto... John Z is awesome

clearvision
06-27-2005, 04:28 PM
Grr they just piss on their fans if it is :( drop us a line blair you fag.

/isn't angry in anyway shape or form.

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:28 PM
All I can say to you guys that are starving for Tool news (me included) is that when we hear the album... it'll be one massive dose of heroin. Tool might take their sweet time between albums (an average of 4 years) but they make up for what they release.
Indeed. Its actually good that they do this, Ive noticed that most bands that realease tons of albums suck and die out quickly. :thumb:

BlindWriting
06-27-2005, 04:29 PM
I still haven't heard any Volto.

Rothmans
06-27-2005, 04:29 PM
IM starting to think people give blair too much of a hard time.

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:30 PM
Yeah I really dig Volto... John Z is awesome
I heard their stuff on my space, were can I fand more stuff? Do they have a cd out or anything?

clearvision
06-27-2005, 04:30 PM
Why he's too cryptic with stuff that is important.

/Anally rapes blair till he screams like a girl

BlindWriting
06-27-2005, 04:31 PM
IM starting to think people give blair too much of a hard time.
No, Blair definitely takes pleasure out of what he does.

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:31 PM
I still haven't heard any Volto.
Cheack out myspace.com

Lateralias
06-27-2005, 04:31 PM
Indeed. Its actually good that they do this, Ive noticed that most bands that realease tons of albums suck and die out quickly. :thumb:

Yeah.. one band that has and is still great would have to be Iron Maiden.. they chugged out albums back in the 80's.. but they haven't gotten close to dying out.

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:32 PM
Also Blair has a contract with the band, he can only say the stuff the band wants to say, if he says more hes out!

Lateralias
06-27-2005, 04:33 PM
I heard their stuff on my space, were can I fand more stuff? Do they have a cd out or anything?

I forgot the site.. but they had a few Volto samples and a few of them I think were complete songs.. but as far as I know I don't think they have any CDs about.

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:33 PM
Yeah.. one band that has and is still great would have to be Iron Maiden.. they chugged out albums back in the 80's.. but they haven't gotten close to dying out. True but am sure theyve made their share of ****ty songs or albums.

BlindWriting
06-27-2005, 04:33 PM
Cheack out myspace.com
Will do.

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:34 PM
I forgot the site.. but they had a few Volto samples and a few of them I think were complete songs.. but as far as I know I don't think they have any CDs about.
Danny should dump pigmy and concentrate more on volto :p


volto gutiarist is ****ing ace

Lateralias
06-27-2005, 04:36 PM
Danny should dump pigmy and concentrate more on volto :p


volto gutiarist is ****ing ace

I don't really dig Danny's drumming for Volto (though I still like it somewhat)... well it's easy to understand because he plays pretty basic in Volto.. not to basic.. but it's not Tool-Dannyesque, not even close IMO.

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:38 PM
Volto is more jazz like wich is great. The best drummers ever were jazzist. I think.


Volto is also like a jam band, they really do play cause they enjoy it, not money really. They should realease a cd anyways.

clearvision
06-27-2005, 04:46 PM
The best drummers ever were jazzist. I think..

I love you.

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-27-2005, 04:47 PM
They have the most complex music to play...

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:50 PM
I love you.Cause I am musical elitist? or because I say stupid stuff? or is it my grammer? :confused: :p

clearvision
06-27-2005, 04:54 PM
The jazzist was just a crazy word, it made my day...

...i really need to sort myself out...

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 04:58 PM
lolol, But is it wrong? bah am gonna go play some basketball :)

Darkness
06-27-2005, 05:35 PM
I just read that the Teleincision is a false rumor on Toolband... blast!

Lateralias
06-27-2005, 05:43 PM
I just read that the Teleincision is a false rumor on Toolband... blast!

Why is it such a bad thing?... You'll get your Tool DVD eventually, don't worry.. Wait it out.. Be Patient :cool:

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-27-2005, 06:41 PM
Ok guys, I just got all caught up with this thread, and well, frankly, it's nothing new.

I'm glad Teleincision is fake. :p

bass24
06-27-2005, 06:51 PM
lol i bet your all tools that check the tool thread every day

magicaltrollII
06-27-2005, 06:52 PM
lol i bet your all tools that check the tool thread every day
Yup, probably.
You seem to do it too.

Dried Muffin Remnants
06-27-2005, 06:52 PM
lol i bet your all tools that check the tool thread every day

omGzz g00d call

*hi fivez all da fellas*

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-27-2005, 07:00 PM
Guys, just ignore him. Quite responding and the faggot will probably leave.

/reports

3074326
06-27-2005, 07:25 PM
lol i bet your all tools that check the tool thread every day


My tolerance level for people like you is now zero.

Permanent bans for all who act like this. If you see it anywhere in R&M, let me know.

Futuro
06-27-2005, 07:32 PM
im am the best geetar playr ever... proof (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/themarshalljourney_music.htm)

im gonna be #1 someday.....its eruption on steel drums(yes steel drums :lol: ) then As i am by dream theater on shotty recorded geetar, all over this amazing backing track done by beat boxing, and other random noises made by my mouth ....im amazing.... :naughty:

(so this post has meaning) im gonna upload stinkfist tommorow ....and thats the link it will be at. :p

hope nobody takes anything i say serious :rolleyes:

Lateralias
06-27-2005, 07:36 PM
im am the best geetar playr ever... proof (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/themarshalljourney_music.htm)

im gonna be #1 someday.....its eruption on steel drums(yes steel drums :lol: ) then As i am by dream theater on shotty recorded geetar, all over this amazing backing track done by beat boxing, and other random noises made by my mouth ....im amazing.... :naughty:

(so this post has meaning) im gonna upload stinkfist tommorow ....and thats the link it will be at. :p

hope nobody takes anything i say serious :rolleyes:

Well isn't that just .... art. And the guitar sounds quite authentic :lol:

Futuro
06-27-2005, 07:40 PM
Well isn't that just .... art. And the guitar sounds quite authentic :lol: thanks, it took hours to make :thumb:

magicaltrollII
06-27-2005, 07:44 PM
im am the best geetar playr ever... proof (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/themarshalljourney_music.htm)

im gonna be #1 someday.....its eruption on steel drums(yes steel drums :lol: ) then As i am by dream theater on shotty recorded geetar, all over this amazing backing track done by beat boxing, and other random noises made by my mouth ....im amazing.... :naughty:

(so this post has meaning) im gonna upload stinkfist tommorow ....and thats the link it will be at. :p

hope nobody takes anything i say serious :rolleyes:
I like the Mantra sample.

Moses
06-27-2005, 07:46 PM
I'm recording as we speak just to let you guys know......

3074326
06-27-2005, 07:48 PM
I am also getting ready to.

Should have Lateralus done tonight, minus the two guitar solos.

Futuro
06-27-2005, 07:50 PM
I like the Mantra sample.
thanks, it cost me a billion dollars.

i hope i hit #1 in the black metal soon :thumb: i have to go to #1 :)

Moses
06-27-2005, 08:07 PM
****, my little sister and her little friends have to come and interrupt me. Well I got the first verse redone and it's alot better now. I don't know how long it will be till I get to record again.

magicaltrollII
06-27-2005, 08:13 PM
thanks, it cost me a billion dollars.

i hope i hit #1 in the black metal soon :thumb: i have to go to #1 :)
That song is hardly tr00 enough. But its close :p

Huber
06-27-2005, 08:16 PM
im am the best geetar playr ever... proof (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/themarshalljourney_music.htm)

im gonna be #1 someday.....its eruption on steel drums(yes steel drums :lol: ) then As i am by dream theater on shotty recorded geetar, all over this amazing backing track done by beat boxing, and other random noises made by my mouth ....im amazing.... :naughty:

(so this post has meaning) im gonna upload stinkfist tommorow ....and thats the link it will be at. :p

hope nobody takes anything i say serious :rolleyes:

I definetly voted it hot.

Futuro
06-27-2005, 08:18 PM
That song is hardly tr00 enough. But its close

D000d i rock cause i play eruption on steel jam-aken drums. (OMG!! OMG!! IM AWSOME)

(jamaican is spelled wrong for a reason)

the explosion special effect at the end was taken from some B-movie from the early 90's. And im god at guiatar cause i can play As i am by dream theater :cool:

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-27-2005, 08:35 PM
Hey Chris- Thanks for being so quick with your recording, man. It's a big track, and I was getting anxious for some new recordings. Best of luck with finishing. Hopefully my dialup will actually let me DL the file this time. I have yet to hear Marshall's drumming. :p

Marshall about Stinkfist- Sweet

Moses- S'okay man, just as long as you get it done sometime.(btw, give your sis a good kick in the catcher's mitt. :angry:)

Moses
06-27-2005, 08:39 PM
im am the best geetar playr ever... proof (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/themarshalljourney_music.htm)

im gonna be #1 someday.....its eruption on steel drums(yes steel drums :lol: ) then As i am by dream theater on shotty recorded geetar, all over this amazing backing track done by beat boxing, and other random noises made by my mouth ....im amazing.... :naughty:

(so this post has meaning) im gonna upload stinkfist tommorow ....and thats the link it will be at. :p

hope nobody takes anything i say serious :rolleyes:
That was excellent..... :thumb:

@ Jake: You haven't heard Marshall's Lateralus track?

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-27-2005, 08:45 PM
I've tried and tried and tried, but the at about 60% through the download, I get this message saying "ERROR: The server has been reset"

Me-wtf? /tries to find song, but fayles

I'll try super hard once it has geetar on it though.

Moses
06-27-2005, 08:49 PM
That sucks.

Futuro
06-27-2005, 08:51 PM
I've tried and tried and tried, but the at about 60% through the download, I get this message saying "ERROR: The server has been reset"

Me-wtf? /tries to find song, but fayles

I'll try super hard once it has geetar on it though.meh...not missing much....the whole beggining builup before it slams into the riff is kinda ...bleh...i wasnt sure how the dynamics of the mic were gonna work out so any part thats kinda soft has a lame sound to it....and my dam hihats are way louder than everything else (among other problems) i would like to get some drum mics, but dont have the money right know

jake for the verse riff (of stinkfist)what are the two main notes played? ( i would like to see if a can match up a chime with one of the notes for some cool effects)

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-27-2005, 08:57 PM
It goes from D to F, back to D, then to G

The second part of the verse goes A, G, F, D.

:confused: Not sure how much help that was, but for sure, you want one tuned to D. :p

Futuro
06-27-2005, 09:10 PM
It goes from D to F, back to D, then to G
The second part of the verse goes A, G, F, D.
Not sure how much help that was, but for sure, you want one tuned to D. i was talking bout stinkfist that sound more like lateralus.

3074326
06-27-2005, 09:18 PM
Hey Chris- Thanks for being so quick with your recording, man. It's a big track, and I was getting anxious for some new recordings. Best of luck with finishing. Hopefully my dialup will actually let me DL the file this time. I have yet to hear Marshall's drumming. :p


No problem. I used to know this song so it's not too difficult to play now.

I'm not too sure about the verse riffs though. I recorded what I think he plays/what I think sounds best, but I'm not sure if it's right. His guitar sound is so percussive in the verses..

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-27-2005, 09:46 PM
Ohh yeah, that's Lateralus, good call. :p Stinkfist verse would be E and D

EE EE D/EE EE D

That's how the rythm goes...kind of. :lol:

And Chris, if it fits with the song, it shouldn't be a problem. :shrug:

Futuro
06-27-2005, 10:13 PM
Ohh yeah, that's Lateralus, good call. :p Stinkfist verse would be E and D

EE EE D/EE EE D

That's how the rythm goes...kind of. :lol:

And Chris, if it fits with the song, it shouldn't be a problem. :shrug:
awsome......im not sure if i have any nick nax or patty wacks( :naughty: ) that can be thrown in for texture but i will try some stuff. And will also try to make it not sound all cluttered ex: all of dannys other stuff :lol:

3074326
06-27-2005, 10:28 PM
I like how Cool Edit Pro has shut down on me twice in five minutes.

Not a good sign.

As soon as I get the legendary outro, it starts being stupid. That's my favorite part, and it's one of the easiest. :(

Futuro
06-27-2005, 10:31 PM
I like how Cool Edit Pro has shut down on me twice in five minutes.

Not a good sign.

As soon as I get the legendary outro, it starts being stupid. That's my favorite part, and it's one of the easiest. :(

when i did drum track it happened once :upset:

3074326
06-27-2005, 10:32 PM
Haha, picks the best times to do that.

The drum track rules, by the way. I put some compressor on the drums and mixed them a bit too. They sound a bit better now. We still have the hiss in the intro, but it's okay. :p

BlindWriting
06-27-2005, 10:34 PM
I just bought a Tool bootleg for twenty bucks at a used record store. I'll give the info, in case anyone's interested.

It's called Tool – The Ultimate Ultra Rare Trax
1. Calling Dr. Love (from a Kiss tribute album, with Maynard on vox.)
2. Rev 22:20 (something from the Underworld soundtrack that Maynard did with Danny Lohner. If you liked the Judith remix, it's kind of similar.)
3. Passenger (from Deftones – White Pony.)
4. Santa Monica & Orange (a song by a band called Love Jones, with Maynard doing guest vox.)
5. Choked (some group collab. with Maynard doing some vox.)
6. Muhammad My Friend (Maynard's live duet with Tori Amos.)
7. Divorced (The Melvins, with Tool)
8. Sober (demo)
9. Part of Me (demo)
10. Hush (demo)
11. Crawl Away (demo)
12. Jerk Off (demo)
13. Cold and Ugly (demo)
14. Spasm (Peach cover)
15. Wrong Way (Sublime cover)
16. Kill The Revolution (the Rage Against the Machine/Tool collab. demo thing)

I'm normally hesitant about buying bootleg related stuff, just because the material isn't always great, but it was the full band covers and demos that sold me. A lot of this was just Maynard doing guest vocals on various projects, but I'm only on the second song, so I'll let you know how the rest of it goes.

Futuro
06-27-2005, 10:38 PM
Haha, picks the best times to do that.

The drum track rules, by the way. I put some compressor on the drums and mixed them a bit too. They sound a bit better now. We still have the hiss in the intro, but it's okay. :pheh ...sorry bout that... i dont know much about sound EQing so i left the track dry, and the hiss i think is from my mic.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-27-2005, 10:38 PM
Could you listen to the Kill the Revolution and tell me how good the quality is? I have a version of it, but it's very muddy, so if you could, I'd looove to hear that version, if it's any better.

3074326
06-27-2005, 10:43 PM
heh ...sorry bout that... i dont know much about sound EQing so i left the track dry, and the hiss i think is from my mic.

No worries. I can just hear it in the intro really.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-27-2005, 10:48 PM
Chris, when you upload it, do you think you could upload the guitar track seperate? Just because, if you juxtapose them now, it may be harder to mix the entire song later on down the road once we get the bottom end in there,and of course some vox as well. You could do both, if you please. :D

ThePatient
06-27-2005, 10:50 PM
I've heard some of the songs on that bootleg, the Kiss cover is great. If you can, you should YSI it. :-*

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-27-2005, 10:56 PM
Nice of you to stop by Patient. When do you think you could have Ticks and Leeches up? I'm trying to figure out how it would work. If I was to play the geetar on it, I would have to supply the backing track, because I have a wierd computer, so whenever I record, I have latency problems. In Layman's terms, when I record, it slowly becomes further and further out of time. I will be playing along with the track, but when I play it back along with the track I played along to, my track becomes progressively slower and slower in comparison the the other. :-/ That's what we did for Stinkfist, so I hope this would work for you on Ticks and Leeches. Oh and also, I think it would be beneficial for us if we cut some of the middle section out. I see very little purpose for it to be there. Granted, I know Tool put it there for some reason, but for this, I doubt it would get us any more votes for having a 3 minute segue of the the same 2 chords over and over. :-/ What are your thoughts on this?

ThePatient
06-27-2005, 11:06 PM
Just give me a deadline for when you want it done, and I'll do it by then. I lack motivation skills and need to know things like these. :p I really doubt I'll be able to have it done this week. My keyboardist is coming back from Spain tommorow, so I have a feeling I'll be with my band everyday this week.

I may have missed it in your post, but what did you do to solve the slowing down?

When you say middle part, I assume you mean the really slow guitar part, with the bass going on the whammy, which was all I was going to do anyway because I don't really know what's going on there. If you just give me the time, beginning and end, of what should be cut out, I can work from there.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-27-2005, 11:49 PM
Well, I think we should do the interlude for maybe 2 measures or so, just as a transition and as something cool and random. I love the feel of that it adds to the song, just not the excessiveness of it.

The slowing down thing doesn't effect it much. We're talking hundredths of a second, but it slows it down enough that you can tell it's not sync'd with the song, but if you just played my track, it doesn't sound off tempo.

As for a deadline, the end of the competition is August first, so we have a good 4-5 weeks left, but I would like to think I could get the guitar done within this week, and that would leave you with it for a week, then a week for drums and vox, and we should be right as rain.

Mr Herb
06-27-2005, 11:54 PM
I agree jake dude that the interlude should be sorta of a quick transition, but perhaps It might not go so well if its really really short so I think it should be more than 2 measures but w/e am jsut bored and wanted to post :)

Huber
06-27-2005, 11:56 PM
Just do two phrases of it, that'll work.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-28-2005, 12:04 AM
Sliptallica, would you want to do the drumming?

Huber
06-28-2005, 12:05 AM
Sliptallica, would you want to do the drumming?

Sure, I'd love to. I never know when I get the opportunity to play though, so it'll be kinda random.

BlindWriting
06-28-2005, 12:08 AM
Could you listen to the Kill the Revolution and tell me how good the quality is? I have a version of it, but it's very muddy, so if you could, I'd looove to hear that version, if it's any better.
Kill The Revolution is about the same. All in all, not worth twenty bucks, but had some interesting things. I'll YSI a few songs tomorrow.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-28-2005, 12:18 AM
Bummer. I'm still looking for a higher quality recording of this collaboration, but I doubt I'll find one. :-/

Sliptallica- Sounds like a plan. Hopefully we'll have a more concrete plan soon.

Futuro
06-28-2005, 12:32 AM
hey if we do parabol/parabola i would much like to drum on that.....

BlindWriting
06-28-2005, 12:38 AM
Bummer. I'm still looking for a higher quality recording of this collaboration, but I doubt I'll find one. :-/
I honestly don't think something like that even exists.

Adam Jones is GOD
06-28-2005, 07:23 AM
Any uploads i've missed? Apologise for my absence

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-28-2005, 11:20 AM
Where've you been..Ben. :p

Well, no. :upset: Chris(307) recorded all of Lateralus last night, but he was going to fine tune it today. I'm giving up on The JoZ, so now we have ThePatient and MagicalTroll as our new bassists.

Oh yeah, and I asked Chris 2 days ago to do some guitaring, and he's already got it done almost. He totally deserves a lapdance. :D

So, were you on vacation, or sick, or what?? I was wondering if you had like magically defected from mx. Glad you're back man!

Otherside
06-28-2005, 11:22 AM
What songs have we choosen to do, anyways? Lateralus and 46&2?

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-28-2005, 11:33 AM
In addition to those, Stinkfist, Ticks and Leeches, Ænema, perhaps Parabola. I think there are more, but I can't think of what they are at the moment. :p

Otherside
06-28-2005, 11:43 AM
In addition to those, Stinkfist, Ticks and Leeches, Ænema, perhaps Parabola. I think there are more, but I can't think of what they are at the moment. :p


O_o

Who is doing the T&L scream?

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-28-2005, 12:06 PM
Moses/letmypeopleho

I really doubt he's going to use the same method as Maynard did, but it'll still turn out cool, I hope.

Speaking of Ticks & Leeches, I cut the intermission section out, minus 2 measures, and it clocks in a just over 6 minutes. I'm having trouble getting the rythm right for the beginning of the third section, where it's the riff of the middle section, but played an octave higher. If someone could tell me the time signature it's in, it would help a lot. Parts of the song are in 4/4, some are in 7/8..so yeah, clarification would be sweet.

Lateralias
06-28-2005, 12:07 PM
Any uploads i've missed? Apologise for my absence

Nice avatar AJiG :)

Adam Jones is GOD
06-28-2005, 12:10 PM
Where've you been..Ben. :p

Well, no. :upset: Chris(307) recorded all of Lateralus last night, but he was going to fine tune it today. I'm giving up on The JoZ, so now we have ThePatient and MagicalTroll as our new bassists.

Oh yeah, and I asked Chris 2 days ago to do some guitaring, and he's already got it done almost. He totally deserves a lapdance. :D

So, were you on vacation, or sick, or what?? I was wondering if you had like magically defected from mx. Glad you're back man!

Chris is recording stuff? Sweet, from what i've heard of his work, it should be awesome.

As for my absence, officially my computer finally died and required some work. However, the true reason will remain with me for legal reasons :thumb:

clearvision
06-28-2005, 12:12 PM
AJIG @ childpr0n? :eek:

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-28-2005, 12:17 PM
Ah yes, let the speculation begin. :lol:

Adam Jones is GOD
06-28-2005, 12:19 PM
Ill give a prize for the funniest rumour

clearvision
06-28-2005, 12:21 PM
I'll take the prize for the tr00ist rumour.

Otherside
06-28-2005, 12:21 PM
You were angry at the fact that Pink Floyd is playing in England, but you didn't have tickets, so you smashed your computer in with a sledgehammer?





That's what I did anyways :upset:

Adam Jones is GOD
06-28-2005, 12:23 PM
I'll take the prize for the tr00ist rumour.

You guess the reason silly, not the prize

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-28-2005, 12:25 PM
Here is Jones' complete rig, courtesy of Chris himself

Guitars
-Les paul silverburst from the early 80's,
-LP green burst tuned down for Prison Sex and Parabola
Amps
-Mesa triple rectifier/dual rectifier (he's used both)
-Diezel vh-4 Marshall Superbass with the channels wired together
-Sunn Beta lead 100 on Lateralus
Effects
-Ibanez fl-9 flanger/Boss bf-2 flanger (he's used both)
-Boss dd-3 delay
-DOD EQ pedal
-Dunlop 595Q wah
Misc.
-Ernie Ball .10's
-medium sized picks
-Virus synthesizer

As for where you were...I'll have to think of this one.

clearvision
06-28-2005, 12:26 PM
I've already given my reason, it's true, therefor i win the truest rumour prize. :)

Otherside you could elaborate...

EG ... AJIG finds out clearvision is going to the gig, but is now not looking forward to it as muse and the cure have been moved and he's only semi-bothered about seeing floyd :)

Otherside
06-28-2005, 12:27 PM
I've already given my reason, it's true, therefor i win the truest rumour prize. :)

Otherside you could elaborate...

EG ... AJIG finds out clearvision is going to the gig, but is now not looking forward to it as muse and the cure have been moved and he's only semi-bothered about seeing floyd :)

Look out your window. I'm there. With the sledgehammer.

clearvision
06-28-2005, 12:29 PM
j00 pOst3d 0n m3h MysPac3 amirite?

Adam Jones is GOD
06-28-2005, 12:29 PM
I've already given my reason, it's true, therefor i win the truest rumour prize. :)

Otherside you could elaborate...

EG ... AJIG finds out clearvision is going to the gig, but is now not looking forward to it as muse and the cure have been moved and he's only semi-bothered about seeing floyd :)

....plus its all being televised over and over and over, and means I dont have to go miles to see 10 minutes of a few bands I like.

Plus I have REM, InMe and OPETH to look forward to over the next 3 months.

Moses
06-28-2005, 12:36 PM
Moses/letmypeopleho

I really doubt he's going to use the same method as Maynard did, but it'll still turn out cool, I hope.

Speaking of Ticks & Leeches, I cut the intermission section out, minus 2 measures, and it clocks in a just over 6 minutes. I'm having trouble getting the rythm right for the beginning of the third section, where it's the riff of the middle section, but played an octave higher. If someone could tell me the time signature it's in, it would help a lot. Parts of the song are in 4/4, some are in 7/8..so yeah, clarification would be sweet.
Maybe not as high pitched, but a little crunchier. I've only recorded a scream once and that was a while back before I developed my technique.

clearvision
06-28-2005, 12:39 PM
Band of the moment - Coheed and Cambria...such feel good music, kinda progressive too, I compare them to the mars volta....

This song is more of a pop-punky number, they get more progressive, but no-one wants to listen to a 9min sample...

http://s27.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2B3FIIERFYV2M0M53GGM61W7TN

Otherside
06-28-2005, 12:47 PM
Didn't like that song very much :\

I don't really see that much of a comparison between them and TMV, except both singers have high voices.

Just not my thing I guess...

clearvision
06-28-2005, 12:50 PM
Meh maybe it was the wrong song to choose, they aren't a TMV clone in any way shape or form. They are a pop-punk band but seem to be pretty progressive. Their riffs and high vocals kinda remind me of TMV the vocals are really haunting 'now I'm lost' kinda style.

Moses
06-28-2005, 12:54 PM
I like them too. I never was one for the pop-punk stuff, but when that first single came out it was infectious.

Neurotoxin
06-28-2005, 01:13 PM
I enjoy Coheed as well. A talented rock band I'd say.

Mr Herb
06-28-2005, 01:50 PM
Here is Jones' complete rig, courtesy of Chris himself

Guitars
-Les paul silverburst from the early 80's,
-LP green burst tuned down for Prison Sex and Parabola
Amps
-Mesa triple rectifier/dual rectifier (he's used both)
-Diezel vh-4 Marshall Superbass with the channels wired together
-Sunn Beta lead 100 on Lateralus
Effects
-Ibanez fl-9 flanger/Boss bf-2 flanger (he's used both)
-Boss dd-3 delay
-DOD EQ pedal
-Dunlop 595Q wah
Misc.
-Ernie Ball .10's
-medium sized picks
-Virus synthesizer

As for where you were...I'll have to think of this one.



Why the extra amp on lateralus?

Rothmans
06-28-2005, 02:00 PM
Why the extra amp on lateralus?

More cusomizable tone and a more solid tone.

Mr Herb
06-28-2005, 02:19 PM
i see. Were can I see the stuff Justin uses? I am thinking about buying an effect for my bass, perhaps id like to use what he uses:)

Rothmans
06-28-2005, 02:24 PM
i see. Were can I see the stuff Justin uses? I am thinking about buying an effect for my bass, perhaps id like to use what he uses:)
Toolshed have a few stuff aobut htem hold on I will get it for ye.

Sorry all it says is boss and digitech but if you are really really bothered there are some stuff on there in the articles you can fish around in.

Mr Herb
06-28-2005, 03:06 PM
a screw it I jsut realized I cant buy **** cause am saving for a trip to NY.

Artemician
06-28-2005, 04:42 PM
I like Coheed too. Funny, I thought most people here would hate them.

Artemician
06-28-2005, 04:45 PM
Hey, my avatar didn't get screwed up. Alright.

Sorry for the double post.

clearvision
06-28-2005, 04:48 PM
Your avatar is screwed up, because it is saved in your temp it wont look like that :)

I just learnt the first part of In keeping secrets of silent earth 3, the song. :cool: that riff owns.

BlindWriting
06-28-2005, 05:37 PM
Tonight I'll YSI some of that Tool stuff I got yesterday. A few songs.

siva_chair
06-28-2005, 06:34 PM
Here is Jones' complete rig, courtesy of Chris himself

Guitars
-Les paul silverburst from the early 80's,
-LP green burst tuned down for Prison Sex and Parabola
Amps
-Mesa triple rectifier/dual rectifier (he's used both)
-Diezel vh-4 Marshall Superbass with the channels wired together
-Sunn Beta lead 100 on Lateralus
Effects
-Ibanez fl-9 flanger/Boss bf-2 flanger (he's used both)
-Boss dd-3 delay
-DOD EQ pedal
-Dunlop 595Q wah
Misc.
-Ernie Ball .10's
-medium sized picks
-Virus synthesizer

As for where you were...I'll have to think of this one.

I thought he had a Marshal as well as the Diezel and Mesa(s).

Lateralias
06-28-2005, 06:42 PM
Anyone know what Adam used to get the Pushit Live tone?... It's one of the best I've ever heard. It's mainly the tone in the intro I'm talking about.. cause I know he throws in more distortion when the chords come in.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-28-2005, 06:42 PM
Hey very well could have one, but hey, that list is more thorough than most I've seen.

Oh and for the guy looking for Justin's bass effect(s)- Just get a Digitech BP200. It has more than you need, and they're really a good deal for the amount of stuff you get with it. You get whammy, wah, delay, gain, and a myriad of other crap. Either that, or just save up for New York. I'd much rather have an effects pedal than a trip to New York. That's just me, I have a thing against the city for some reason. :shrug:

Lateralias- I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say it was his Mesa amp, with about 60-70% gain, and of course, some delay. For the live version, it's less gain, and perhaps a little chorus.

Syncratic
06-28-2005, 06:43 PM
I would've thought that Adam used more effects.

Lateralias
06-28-2005, 06:45 PM
I would've thought that Adam used more effects.

He does... there is a Tool pic of the floor and there are TONS of pedals and stuff... I don't think they covered all of them in that post.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-28-2005, 06:47 PM
That's his basic rig. On Triad, he uses tons more, but typically, that's all he really uses, and needs IMO.

Futuro
06-28-2005, 06:52 PM
i know one thing he uses often that was forgotten, a leslie cabinate processor, thats why when there live on all there trippy songs it seems that the speakers are rotating :cool:


and my stinkfist sucks so im not uploading :upset:

The JoZ
06-28-2005, 06:53 PM
Erh, hi guys.

I know I've promised recordings and re-recordings for a while now. I promise I haven't forgotten, but I've been really busy...but I still really want to do them.

I will endeavor to have some or all of them to you in the next couple of days.

BlindWriting
06-28-2005, 06:56 PM
The rumor around this thread was that you were killed in a skydiving accident. Glad to know you're still with us.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-28-2005, 06:59 PM
JoZ- Do Lateralus and Ænema.

BW- Who said that? :lol: /missed out

The JoZ
06-28-2005, 06:59 PM
The rumor around this thread was that you were killed in a skydiving accident. Glad to know you're still with us.

While that would be quite an interesting (read: painful) way to kick the bucket, I am still very much alive and kicking :cool:

Anyone happen to have any new info on the new album?

BlindWriting
06-28-2005, 07:01 PM
Anyone happen to have any new info on the new album?
Nothing other than official (though still quite cryptic) word that the name Teleincision is just a fan-made rumor.

Syncratic
06-28-2005, 07:40 PM
I bet the guy who created the name 'Teleincision' is laughing his fat arse off at this.

He does... there is a Tool pic of the floor and there are TONS of pedals and stuff... I don't think they covered all of them in that post.

I thought so......anyway, what songs does Adam use the Epilady on? My friend told me that he does it on The Grudge.

3074326
06-28-2005, 07:44 PM
I have Justin's gear somewhere on my computer.

I know he uses Wal basses (as well as a Sting-Ray), and Mesa M-Pulse heads with Mesa cabinets.

I also know that he uses a Pro-Co Rat distortion pedal. That's all I can recall at the moment.

I don't think he uses it in The Grudge. I know it's used in Triad.

Syncratic
06-28-2005, 07:47 PM
I don't think he uses it in The Grudge. I know it's used in Triad.

That makes a whole load of sense now. THAT'S how he gets those sounds....:cool:

Huber
06-28-2005, 07:49 PM
I got enough time to do one take of Ticks and Leeches but botched it up on the second verse. In other words...

/fails

I'll try again another time I guess.

The JoZ
06-28-2005, 07:58 PM
I have Justin's gear somewhere on my computer.

I know he uses Wal basses (as well as a Sting-Ray), and Mesa M-Pulse heads with Mesa cabinets.

I also know that he uses a Pro-Co Rat distortion pedal. That's all I can recall at the moment.

I don't think he uses it in The Grudge. I know it's used in Triad.

No, he doesn't use Pro-Co, he uses the Boss ODB3.

And he used it on H, Aenema, Third Eye, Schism, Parabola, and maybe others.

Rothmans
06-28-2005, 08:32 PM
No, he doesn't use Pro-Co, he uses the Boss ODB3.

And he used it on H, Aenema, Third Eye, Schism, Parabola, and maybe others.
Joz?

where have you been man?
and your avatar is still messed up.

The JoZ
06-28-2005, 08:34 PM
I don't know why it is, I reloaded it a while back.

And I've been busy / avoiding the place.

Rothmans
06-28-2005, 08:36 PM
I don't know why it is, I reloaded it a while back.

And I've been busy / avoiding the place.

Why avoiding?

and there is no news on the new album.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-28-2005, 08:46 PM
PageCobain- Actually no, I think you're thinking of the Virus sythesizer. He only uses the Epilady on Triad, or so I've heard. 307 says the odd noises throughout The Grudge are the Virus synth. He could probably elaborate on it a bit, but there you have it.

Chris- Any news on Lateralus?

MagicalTroll- If you see this, today is Tuesday. :p No hard feelings if you've got nothing so far. Everyone that has set a due date for themselves hasn't kept to it. (Including my self)

Rothmans
06-28-2005, 08:48 PM
PageCobain- Actually no, I think you're thinking of the Virus sythesizer. He only uses the Epilady on Triad, or so I've heard. 307 says the odd noises throughout The Grudge are the Virus synth. He could probably elaborate on it a bit, but there you have it.

Chris- Any news on Lateralus?

MagicalTroll- If you see this, today is Tuesday. :p No hard feelings if you've got nothing so far. Everyone that has set a due date for themselves hasn't kept to it. (Including my self)

How do you know everyones names?

and I feel so jipped over that teleinsicion site.... :upset:

Otherside
06-28-2005, 08:51 PM
It's not like Blair has completely dismissed the DVD. Keep hopefull.

Dr. Jake Destructo
06-28-2005, 08:58 PM
Rothmans- I hang out here wayy to much. My postcount ITT reflects that. :p

Otherside- I doubt if Blair has yet to dismiss the April Fool's rumors. I think it's funny how every Tool fan(at least on Toolnavy) hates him, but if I was in that position, I would be toying with the fans the exact same way. :evil:

So, I picked up Blackwater Park today. I just listened to The Leper Affinity. It was pretty amazing, but I'm not too big on the growls. :-/ Never really have been a fan of that kind of vocals, but on the other hand, every thing is amazing. Mikael's clean vocals, the guitar parts aren't too technical, but the solos are very expressive. The drum is pretty insane at parts as well. I can definitely see my self getting into these guys. Maybe they will be my gateway into more death metal.

Lateralias
06-28-2005, 08:59 PM
It's not like Blair has completely dismissed the DVD. Keep hopefull.

Yeah really, I'm pretty positive they will release a live DVD eventually.. whether before or after the new album.. and hopefully not TOO long if it's after, cause after all.. it is a Lateralus tour DVD.

Rothmans
06-28-2005, 09:00 PM
No I know that there is a dvd coming out but for some reason I do think something is coming out on the 16th of august but my best guess is november.

Lateralias
06-28-2005, 09:02 PM
So, I picked up Blackwater Park today. I just listened to The Leper Affinity. It was pretty amazing, but I'm not too big on the growls. :-/ Never really have been a fan of that kind of vocals, but on the other hand, every thing is amazing. Mikael's clean vocals, the guitar parts aren't too technical, but the solos are very expressive. The drum is pretty insane at parts as well. I can definitely see my self getting into these guys. Maybe they will be my gateway into more death metal.

Opeth are a gateway for some people.. they were for me, though I still always listen to Opeth (one of my favorites). I recommend Damnation and then just kinda hop around on BWP or Still Life and let the vocals just grow on you.. it takes time but it will happen. :) I'll help you if you want any uploads Jake.

Otherside
06-28-2005, 09:04 PM
Opeth's vocals will grow on you. If you havn't, download To Bid You Farewell asap

Lateralias
06-28-2005, 09:05 PM
Opeth's vocals will grow on you. If you havn't, download To Bid You Farewell asap

Here it is.. hope you likey :)
http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15EM5A6L273HW30WZLT2TDHF0V