Tool

[Rothmans]

Undertow is thier darkest album by 2035982390572093750892375982398758923659823 times its really a dark album.

[Mr Herb]

Theyre a prog rock band.:)

[Doomed To Crumble]

i would say that aenima is the closest ur gunna get to mteal whith tool

[Moses]

Their darkest!?!? I think that their albums decrease in darkness as they have been released. Undertow is almost depressive, Ænima is just angry, and I think that Lateralus is very uplifting. Meh, to each their own. Why do you think Lateralus is their darkest album?
I thought that Undertow only had one or two dark songs. The intro are almost all in major or pentatonic keys. Aenima has a more polished overall feel. If I had to give each album a color it would be like this: Lateralus would be dark purple, Aenima would be blue, Opiate would be grey, (I think the Hush music video influenced that) and Undertow would be yellow with black stripes.

If that makes sense........

[Doomed To Crumble]

usually when u think of aenima you thinks is a angry album, but once you take a look at each song there is much anger to be found, just raw emotion.

[Doomed To Crumble]

I thought that Undertow only had one or two dark songs. The intro are almost all in major or pentatonic keys. Aenima has a more polished overall feel. If I had to give each album a color it would be like this: Lateralus would be dark purple, Aenima would be blue, Opiate would be grey, (I think the Hush music video influenced that) and Undertow would be yellow with black stripes.

If that makes sense........

ive always thought of aenima to be a mix of dark blue with green.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

True, but music isn't just about theory and key sigs. Listen to the lyrics of each album. The songs on Undertow are some of the darkest lyrics I've ever heard. Lateralus on the other hand has songs about letting your grudges go, forgiveness, and astral projection. Granted, Ticks and Leeches is a very agressive and negative song, but the lyrics aren't as depressive as some of the contents of Undertow.

[Moses]

Really the only angry songs on Aenima is the self-titled and Hooker with a ***** IMO.

[Moses]

True, but music isn't just about theory and key sigs. Listen to the lyrics of each album. The songs on Undertow are some of the darkest lyrics I've ever heard. Lateralus on the other hand has songs about letting your grudges go, forgiveness, and astral projection. Granted, Ticks and Leeches is a very agressive and negative song, but the lyrics aren't as depressive as some of the contents of Undertow.
Well a combination of the key sigs. and tone create the atmosphere. As for lyrics, take J-Rock for example. The lyrics are dark and disturbing but the music is like 60's/70's rock.

Also I don't think Ticks and Leeches is even the darkest song on that album. I think the second darkest one is The Patient, minus the part where a little light shines through.

[Doomed To Crumble]

i feel that ticks and leeches wasnt meant to be angry but more of a song directed at the fans. After Aenima we leeched onto the band and begged them for a new album and they gave it to use..."hope this is what you wanted, hope this is what you had in mind, cause this is what your getting" i think that is there way of say here it is guys hope you ****ing like it:)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Porcupine Tree is another good example. Their music is typically not very heavy or forboding, but the songs are also very disturbing. (Some of them, not all)

About Ticks and Leeches- I always thought it was about piracy. "You theiving bastards" is all I can think of off the top of my head, but that was what made me think of people theiving their music. Either that or their whole music label crisis thing with Volcano.

[Mr Herb]

undertow is pure anger on almost all songs. The aenima well. . . had mroe emotions but but sorta sensed anger for it.. and alteralus was just despair along with hope and other emotions

[Moses]

Porcupine Tree is another good example. Their music is typically not very heavy or forboding, but the songs are also very disturbing. (Some of them, not all)
Musically that's the type of dark atmosphere that Lateralus is like to me.

I think the darkest song on Lateralus is Parabol before it goes into Parabola the only atmospherically light song.

[Mr Herb]

Well a combination of the key sigs. and tone create the atmosphere. As for lyrics, take J-Rock for example. The lyrics are dark and disturbing but the music is like 60's/70's rock.

Also I don't think Ticks and Leeches is even the darkest song on that album. I think the darkest one is The Patient, minus the part where a little light shines through.
lolol hows the patient the darkest?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Despair with hope, where the **** do you get this from? :lol:

[Moses]

lolol hows the patient the darkest?
Listen to it, it's the saddest song they've done until the climax of the build up.

[Mr Herb]

dunno lol, am not to sure bout wat despaird means, I think its something negative? remebr we speak spanish in puerto rico:)

[Moses]

Despair with hope, where the **** do you get this from? :lol:
Wait, what are we talking about? :confused:

[Doomed To Crumble]

i feel that ticks and leeches wasnt meant to be angry but more of a song directed at the fans. After Aenima we leeched onto the band and begged them for a new album and they gave it to use..."hope this is what you wanted, hope this is what you had in mind, cause this is what your getting" i think that is there way of say here it is guys hope you ****ing like it:)

what do you think about this?

[Mr Herb]

Listen to it, it's the saddest song they've done until the climax of the build up. perhaps but i dunno. The heavy part is jsut emotional. .. maynards vocals are sorta tragic, perhaps your right! :thumb:

[Mr Herb]

what do you think about this?
It maybe true, with maynard you never know!

[Doomed To Crumble]

Has anybody ever gotten into the meaning behind the grudge, it has alot to do with greek mythology.

[Mr Herb]

Yeah, but its ultimatly about forgivness and related stuff

[Moses]

what do you think about this?
I think the producer may have asked for a heavier album since nu-metal was still big. So they gave him a song with screaming in it.

[Darkness]

I also think the patient is very sad.

[BlindWriting]

Undertow was definitely the darkest. Opiate had the heaviest material. Aenima was angry, but with a lot of raw emotion as opposed to just senseless blaring.

[Mr Herb]

And tool will do what the producer tells em too? perhaps. Their producer certainly dsnt affect the music as much as other producers do. What kind of influence do you peeps think he has on the band?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Has anybody ever gotten into the meaning behind the grudge, it has alot to do with greek mythology.

The "Saturn Ascends, the one, the ten" is one of the allusions to Roman Mythology in The Grudge. It fits in with the theme because 36 years from the time that you are born, Saturn has does one rotation. This is the time where you are supposed to wipe off any grudges that you have had. "The one, the ten" is a reference to the moons of saturn. The 1st moon, Mimas, represents war, grief and despair. It represents one path that you can take, not giving up your grudges, or you can take the path of Janus, Saturns 10th moon, and also the God/dess of new beginnings. (Hence the name January for the name of the 1st month of a new year)

[Doomed To Crumble]

Yeah, but its ultimatly about forgivness and related stuff

It does, and the story in greek mythology gives you a better understanding of were its comming from.

[Doomed To Crumble]

The "Saturn Ascends, the one, the ten" is one of the allusions to Greek Mythology in The Grudge. It fits in with the theme because 36 years from the time that you are born, Saturn has does one rotation. This is the time where you are supposed to wipe off any grudges that you have had. "The one, the ten" is a reference to the moons of saturn. The 1st moon, Mimas, represents war, grief and despair. It represents one path that you can take, not giving up your grudges, or you can take the path of Janus, Saturns 10th moon, and also the God/dess of new beginnings. (Hence the name January for the name of the 1st month of a new year)

i also thought i had to do with the greek god saturn

[Doomed To Crumble]

o well its an sick *** song and the live video i have for it kicks ***

[Futuro]

The "Saturn Ascends, the one, the ten" is one of the allusions to Greek Mythology in The Grudge. It fits in with the theme because 36 years from the time that you are born, Saturn has does one rotation. This is the time where you are supposed to wipe off any grudges that you have had. "The one, the ten" is a reference to the moons of saturn. The 1st moon, Mimas, represents war, grief and despair. It represents one path that you can take, not giving up your grudges, or you can take the path of Janus, Saturns 10th moon, and also the God/dess of new beginnings. (Hence the name January for the name of the 1st month of a new year)

you = smart :) me = need to know your sources of info :p

[Darkness]

check my new avatar. :D

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Toolnavy my friend. :p I actually formulated most of that stuff my self, but the basis for my theory was what I heard on tdn.

EDIT: I have that pic too! :cool:

[Doomed To Crumble]

yes ive also discused storys on tdn concerning the grudge, it had something to do with the god saturn eating his children(zeus,posiden,haydez) then puking them up or something like that. lol

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

How does that tie in with The Grudge though?

[Doomed To Crumble]

its was i long story and i heard it a while ago, i wish i could explain it but it was to complex for my memory to hold on to. If you were to read it you would understand it much more.

[BlindWriting]

An amazon.com reviewer had something interesting to say about The Grudge's meaning, elaborating on the Saturn thing.

There's not much time or space for me to delve into every single detail, but, hopefully, this will help. Now, I'll discuss the significance of the song "The Grudge" and it's connection with the mythological figure, Saturn. There are references to the number "1" scattered throughout the song. Depending on where you look, number "1" can be a reference to the Sun (the god of life, power and vitality), or to Saturn. But on here, it's obvious that the reference is for Saturn. 1 and 10 represent the same figure: 1, 10, 19, 28 all equal "1" ("10": 1+0=1. "19": 1+9=10=1. "28": 2+8=10=1). In this case, I'm referring to the lyrical references of the song, "The Grudge." Singer Maynard James Keenan says lines like "Saturn ascends/choose 1 or 10"/Saturn ascends/comes around again." In the latter line, Maynard may be referring to an astrological term called "Saturn Return." This is where the planet Saturn takes approximately 29 years to plow through the 12 astrological signs of the zodiacal belt (Note: the planets and astrological signs are supposed to have, more or less, considerable influence on human beings and events on planet earth.) When this happens, everyone supposedly will go through a difficult time in their lives (particularly every 29 years.) And when this happens, we are supposed to learn and grow from this - as Saturn's influence indicates.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

That's sort of an elaborated version of what I said about Saturn. :p nice work on finding that. :thumb: I don't get the numbers though.

[Huber]

That's cool, the Saturn thing has been bugging me for ages. I like that concept. That whole song is amazing.

[Doomed To Crumble]

ya i like your description better then mine, i no that the one i got was an opinion on tdn but after hearing yours it makes alot more sense.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

If I'm remembering my Roman Mythology correctly, Saturn wasn't the father of Juptiter. I think it was a dude by the name of Cronos. I'ts been a while since I've had my mythology course, so I'm gonna double check here.

I come to you bearing great news!

I spoke the The JoZ, and I basically confronted him with an ultimatum. Either he got some tracks up, or we find someone else. He said that he could have Stinkfist and Lateralus up tomorrow night. I will YSI the conversation if you guys want, but nothing spectacular happens. :p

[Thai Noodles2]

Anyone else seen the manyard fights fan video on the internet, I cant tell if it's fake or what.

[Moses]

If I'm remembering my Roman Mythology correctly, Saturn wasn't the father of Juptiter. I think it was a dude by the name of Cronos. I'ts been a while since I've had my mythology course, so I'm gonna double check here.

I come to you bearing great news!

I spoke the The JoZ, and I basically confronted him with an ultimatum. Either he got some tracks up, or we find someone else. He said that he could have Stinkfist and Lateralus up tomorrow night. I will YSI the conversation if you guys want, but nothing spectacular happens. :p
Nice.

[Doomed To Crumble]

Anyone else seen the manyard fights fan video on the internet, I cant tell if it's fake or what.

ya i think the dude was wasted and maynard wasnt taking any chances.

[Doomed To Crumble]

Is it possible to remove and instrument completly out of a song so that you can record to it, like the drums?

[magicaltrollII]

My myspace page if anyone cares.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=9321795&Mytoken=20050623113140
I just added you :thumb:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

There is a very mediocre effect that you can use with Goldwave. It will never completely remove an insturment, but it can work pretty good if you want to remove vox and drums.

http://www.goldwave.com

it's a 5 mb download, so it shouldn't take you too long, even if you're on dialup like myself.

[Huber]

I used to use Goldwave, never noticed this "effect". What was it called?

[Doomed To Crumble]

There is a very mediocre effect that you can use with Goldwave. It will never completely remove an insturment, but it can work pretty good if you want to remove vox and drums.

http://www.goldwave.com

it's a 5 mb download, so it shouldn't take you too long, even if you're on dialup like myself.

you have made me a very happy person thanks you

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Remove Vocals. It only works on some songs. The songs have to be at least 2 channels, or else you will have no chance at removing anything. When it works, it works pretty well though. Other than that, that program is ****.

[Doomed To Crumble]

ya i like it because u can slow down the song so you can tell what dannys plsying

[Darkness]

hehe...

I'm cheating....

Listening to Undertow... whole way through.

hehe...

Its like filling a gap I've had in my heart the past 2 months.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm telling your friend!! :lol:

Doomed To Crumbled- If you want to slow it down, you'd be better off with Audacity (http://www.audacity.com) That way, you can listen to the song at a slowe speed without augmenting the pitch.

[Darkness]

Acutually, he cheated to by listening to dis/ref/triad. Its my way at getting back at him.


Dude are you on like... all the time?

[HighOnFire666]

-Stinkfist about the world becoming desensitsed to stuff, like violence, people nowadays just accept it.
-Eulogy is about their old producer or manager guy.
-46+2 is about the theory that Carl jung created, im not explaining it....
-Schism.....is about a schism, anykind of seperation is a schism...

They are not satanist.....that rediculus. Just read the FAQ on their website....it saves u a lot of thinking time and you can think about more important things in the song since you know what its about.

[Mr Herb]

Whats ions about?

[BlindWriting]

-Stinkfist about the world becoming desensitsed to stuff, like violence, people nowadays just accept it.
-Eulogy is about their old producer or manager guy.
-46+2 is about the theory that Carl jung created, im not explaining it....
-Schism.....is about a schism, anykind of seperation is a schism...

They are not satanist.....that rediculus. Just read the FAQ on their website....it saves u a lot of thinking time and you can think about more important things in the song since you know what its about.



Well, at least it's good to know that people still read the first page of a long thread.

[Mr Herb]

Well, at least it's good to know that people still read the first page of a long thread.
I see, it ahd baffled why hed suddenly psot the meanings of those songs

[BlindWriting]

Whats ions about?
There's a funny story behind –Ions. According to Danny, positive ions are responsible for bad feelings. Negative energies, so to speak. Negative ions (–Ions) are exactly the opposite. They are responsible for good feelings, positive energies. Danny then said that –Ions was "the feel good song" of the album Aenima. Pretty hilarious when taking note of the fact that –Ions is four minutes of static and electronic noises.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ithink that the thunder-esque noises in Negative Ions is a peice of sheet getting twisted about. Just a random theory of mine. :p

[Mr Herb]

lolol funny indeed. What if all their songs were about some stupid **** like that? thatd be funny as hell but we toolphiles would end looking like fools trying to figure out the emaning of every single word on the cds.lol

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

For all we know, their sogns could be meaningless, but Tool always say that they want their fans to concienve their own meanings for their songs, and that is what I do every time I listen to Tool.

[magicaltrollII]

There's a funny story behind –Ions. According to Danny, positive ions are responsible for bad feelings. Negative energies, so to speak. Negative ions (–Ions) are exactly the opposite. They are responsible for good feelings, positive energies. Danny then said that –Ions was "the feel good song" of the album Aenima. Pretty hilarious when taking note of the fact that –Ions is four minutes of static and electronic noises.
ITs also rumored to be connected to Astral Projecting/meditating. Because when you're about to "switch" bodys (ie. physical body to astral) supposedly you hear static.

I've been reading alot of Astral projecting books and Nothing In This Book Is True, But Its Exactly The Way Things Are :p

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I need to see if my library has that book. Who is it by again? Is it an Ailister Crowely book?

Oh, and about the astral projection thing- I beleive that Lateralus is about astral projection. I'm going to do a lyrical analysis right now, as a matter of fact. :)

Merkaba is also a song about astral projection as far as I'm concerned. For those of you who don't know, a merkaba is a sort of vehicle used for interdimensional travel.

[Mr Herb]

Funny you registered after I did yet you have a ton more of posts. i didnt post caue I thought the account didnt work or something, I realized i was wrong a week or two ago but Ive been reading on and off this thread for a while now.

[magicaltrollII]

I need to see if my library has that book. Who is it by again? Is it an Ailister Crowely book?

Oh, and about the astral projection thing- I beleive that Lateralus is about astral projection. I'm going to do a lyrical analysis right now, as a matter of fact. :)

Merkaba is also a song about astral projection as far as I'm concerned. For those of you who don't know, a merkaba is a sort of vehicle used for interdimensional travel.
Yeah, the book talks alot about Merkabas also, VERY interesting.

And the book is by Bob Frissell. I'm interested in hearing your lyrical analysis if you feel like typing it out sometime :)

[BlindWriting]

Crowley isn't the one you're thinking of. I've read some Aleister Crowley, and it's a bit hard to take seriously. However, books on Black Magic can be really interesting.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

-Stinkfist about the world becoming desensitsed to stuff, like violence, people nowadays just accept it.
-Eulogy is about their old producer or manager guy.
-46+2 is about the theory that Carl jung created, im not explaining it....
-Schism.....is about a schism, anykind of seperation is a schism...

They are not satanist.....that rediculus. Just read the FAQ on their website....it saves u a lot of thinking time and you can think about more important things in the song since you know what its about.

46 & 2 has a theory behind it, sure. About the the ideal chromosome state of the two with 46 each... the song's basically about evolution.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

What Lateralus means to me:

Black then white are all
I see in my infancy
Red and yellow then came to be
Reaching out to me
Lets me see
As below, so above and beyond
I imagine

Maynard is saying that at first, in his projections, they were vague. Perhaps a faint dream type landscape or something, but as time went on, they became more detailed and in depth. the last 2 lines, he is saying that if I can let my mind grow here, I can make it go anywhere

Drawn beyond the lines of reason
Push the envelope
Watch it bend
Over thinking, over analysing
Separates the body from the mind
Withering my intuition
Missing opportunities
And I must feed my will
To feel my moment
Drawing way outside the lines
This sensation is showing him things that he didn't think were possible He's pushing the envelope of reality, seeing something far more than most people ever do. (missed oppurtunities) You must overthink, or concentrate extremely hard if you want to leave your body.


Reaching out to embrace
The random
Reaching out to embrace
Whatever may come
His projections are becoming very deep, and now he is just going with the flow, leaving his body it total control

I embrace my desire
To feel the rhythm
To feel connected
Enough to step aside
And weep like a widow
To feel inspired
To fathom the power
To witness the beauty
To bathe in the fountain
To swing on the spiral
To swing on a spiral
To
Swing on a spiral of our divinity
And still be a human
Obviously, his new form of reality is inspiring. This is perhaps the least subtle lyrical section of the song.

With my feet upon the ground
I move myself between the sounds
And open wide to suck it in
I feel it move across my skin
I'm reaching up and reaching out
I'm reaching for the random or
What ever will bewilder me
Whatever will be willed on me
And following our will and wind
We may just go where no one's been
We'll ride the spiral to the end
And may just go where no one's been
Spiral out, keep going
Spiral out, keep going
Spiral out, keep going
This segment is where Maynard is speaking to the listeners. See what I have done, embracing what has come to me, I have gone to places I thought infathomable. I want to inspire you, I want you to join me in my travel and we may go to the ends of the universe.


This is just my interpretation. I have been thinking a lot about these recently. It is very hard to write out some of what I am really thinking, but this is the best I could put down, so I hope you enjoy it. :thumb:

[magicaltrollII]

46 & 2 has a theory behind it, sure. About the the ideal chromosome state of the two with 46 each... the song's basically about evolution.
Yeah, Bob Frissell (the guy that wrote NITBIT) believes that we're gonna go into that state sometimes soon maybe.
But I'm not too sure on that. Because other people say the only way to get there, is by meditating and opening your third eye (omgz another Tool reference) more and more, to where you get enough of some chemical in your body to do so.

I really don't know who to believe because I'm a complete n00b at that stuff.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I think Lateralus is not very hard to paraphrase because its meaning is so clear.... The last three lines explain the whole meaning of the song. Parabola and H. are songs that I still haven't figured out.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Once you delve into the whole sub culture or meditation and projection and what not, it's an entirely different world. In the last 3 months alone, my perception of things has changed so much.

[magicaltrollII]

What Lateralus means to me:



Maynard is saying that at first, in his projections, they were vague. Perhaps a faint dream type landscape or something, but as time went on, they became more detailed and in depth. the last 2 lines, he is saying that if I can let my mind grow here, I can make it go anywhere

This sensation is showing him things that he didn't think were possible He's pushing the envelope of reality, seeing something far more than most people ever do. (missed oppurtunities) You must overthink, or concentrate extremely hard if you want to leave your body.



His projections are becoming very deep, and now he is just going with the flow, leaving his body it total control


Obviously, his new form of reality is inspiring. This is perhaps the least subtle lyrical section of the song.


This segment is where Maynard is speaking to the listeners. See what I have done, embracing what has come to me, I have gone to places I thought infathomable. I want to inspire you, I want you to join me in my travel and we may go to the ends of the universe.


This is just my interpretation. I have been thinking a lot about these recently. It is very hard to write out some of what I am really thinking, but this is the best I could put down, so I hope you enjoy it. :thumb:
Thats pretty interesting...
I don't do that much interpretations most of time.
I plan to start though.

Once you delve into the whole sub culture or meditation and projection and what not, it's an entirely different world. In the last 3 months alone, my perception of things has changed so much.
Have you projected yet? I'm still not quite there, I'm still training myself to focus better, because I have ADD, so its sort of difficult :p

[Rounder]

46 & 2 has a theory behind it, sure. About the the ideal chromosome state of the two with 46 each... the song's basically about evolution.

well, its also deals with the mind and jungs theory of the shadow, our dark side of the phsyche that everyone keeps secret from even themselves.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Have you projected yet? I'm still not quite there, I'm still training myself to focus better, because I have ADD, so its sort of difficult :p


I gave it one effort, and gave up. I tried learning off of those cheesey internet tutorials. The guys that actual know what they're talking are too busy having fun in other dimensions to write a thorough guide. :p

I think I may try again some time. It takes tons of dedication, and from what I hear, it is worth it. Plus, I just wanna have astral secks. :naughty:

Are therre directions in Frissel's book, or are you using a differerent type of thing?

[magicaltrollII]

I gave it one effort, and gave up. I tried learning off of those cheesey internet tutorials. The guys that actual know what they're talking are too busy having fun in other dimensions to write a thorough guide. :p

I think I may try again some time. It takes tons of dedication, and from what I hear, it is worth it. Plus, I just wanna have astral secks. :naughty:

Are therre directions in Frissel's book, or are you using a differerent type of thing?
Well, I got a book called Astral Projection-How To Do It, And What To Expect. Its basically "Astral Projecting For Dummies". Its really good. I forget who its by though... And my friend is borrowing my book. I'm converting him to a Tool freak :thumb: He's also into that stuff aswell now, so thats cool.

And yeah, I really just wanna skip all this stuff and go to the projecting part :p

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I'd do meditation if it guaranteed a prolonged orgasm.

[BlindWriting]

I would love to start, but I find that I just never have the will, or maybe just the patience, to really sit down and learn a thing or two about doing it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I haven't really looked into the lyrics to The Patient, but I'm sure there are some ties to astral projection into that song as well. The theme of being patient and such very well could mean something...:p

[BlindWriting]

Random note:
I just listened to the song Lateralus, probably the only time I've ever listened to it while not listening to the whole album, except for the day I used the song for a school presentation.
And you know, it's absolutely orgasmic.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Random note:
I just listened to the song Lateralus, probably the only time I've ever listened to it while not listening to the whole album, except for the day I used the song for a school presentation.
And you know, it's absolutely orgasmic.

I wish I had an excuse to listen to it for a presentation... However, during a fall pep-rally, as a Captain of my cross-country team, I said "Maynard ran Cross-Country!" That was a funny moment.

[BlindWriting]

I wish I had an excuse to listen to it for a presentation...
It was pretty cool, an optional assignment for music history, to pick a song that means something to you and blabber about it. Suffice to say, I was the only guy with a nine minute-plus song...

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

It was pretty cool, an optional assignment for music history, to pick a song that means something to you and blabber about it. Suffice to say, I was the only guy with a nine minute-plus song...

Nice. I'd like to think my expertise for Tool is in Stinkfist. Although, I doubt the fascist pussies in my school would allow an explanation on a metaphor comparing our society to fisting.

[BlindWriting]

Nice. I'd like to think my expertise for Tool is in Stinkfist. Although, I doubt the fascist pussies in my school would allow an explanation on a metaphor comparing our society to fisting.
Stinkfist would definitely be great, and was one of the songs I was considering. But songs with cursing or sexual metaphors or the like were ruled out.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I probably would have gone with Lateralus as well. Either that or Shine on You Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd because it would eat up half the period. :lol:

[punk_related]

Did anyone see The Mars Volta when they went on tour with A Perfect Circle? I bet that woulda been an awesome show, I can't belive I missed it.

[magicaltrollII]

I probably would have gone with Lateralus as well. Either that or Shine on You Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd because it would eat up half the period. :lol:
:lol:
SOYCD would be awesome! Haha. I'd love to sit around and listen to Pink Floyd for a period in school.

[EinzingerIsGod]

Did anyone see The Mars Volta when they went on tour with A Perfect Circle? I bet that woulda been an awesome show, I can't belive I missed it.

I saw TMV two or three years ago when they were on tour with RHCP and QOTSA and I have to say I wasnt impressed. I wasnt really into them. then but I would definitly go see them again with APC.

Any one hear anything on potential release dates for the new album? I saw aug 16th somewhere but I dont know where and what merit it held.

[Mr Herb]

rumors have it the dvd will come out august 16. not the album.

[Rothmans]

I saw TMV two or three years ago when they were on tour with RHCP and QOTSA and I have to say I wasnt impressed. I wasnt really into them. then but I would definitly go see them again with APC.

Any one hear anything on potential release dates for the new album? I saw aug 16th somewhere but I dont know where and what merit it held.

TMV are supposed to be a hundred times better than they use to be.

[Kage]

I'm coming in a little late, but Jake I really liked what you wrote about the meaning of Lateralus. I agree with what you said.

[Knifeboy]

TMV are supposed to be a hundred times better than they use to be.

Exactly what I've heard... And they just cancelled the show I was gonna go see in a couple of days :upset:

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

They did the same to MA! I was going to see them and SOAD.

[Knifeboy]

I wonder if it's Cedrics voice acting up or something of that sort

[Mr Herb]

Their previous album is mcuh better than their latest effort IMO.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Their previous album is mcuh better than their latest effort IMO.

IMO they were a little TOO experimental with Frances the Mute. It was really just one big mess...although I'd probably LOVE it live.

[Huber]

I just can't get into TMV.

[Rothmans]

IMO they were a little TOO experimental with Frances the Mute. It was really just one big mess...although I'd probably LOVE it live.
I dont like FTM aswell

[Mr Herb]

I think, they sold out with the song the widow. How do you go from Inertiatic ESP to the widow? not good.

I laso think they experiment to much but w/e at least they try.

[Futuro]

can someone send jakes guitar track to me using YSI .....my browser sucks whenever i click save as MP3 it opens up qucktime.


:EDIT: HELLO!!!!!!!! NOBODY IS HELPING ME I HAVE 30 MINUETS FROM THIS EDIT TO RECORD TO DAY :angry:

[BlindWriting]

I'm a huge TMV fan, and Frances is one of my favorite albums ever.
They did cancel some shows because Omar Rodriguez-Lopez got really sick, or somethng.

[Mr Herb]

can someone send jakes guitar track to me using YSI .....my browser sucks whenever i click save as MP3 it opens up qucktime.


:EDIT: HELLO!!!!!!!! NOBODY IS HELPING ME I HAVE 30 MINUETS FROM THIS EDIT TO RECORD TO DAY :angry:
I dont have it dude and the dudes that have it arent online apparently. chill and watch some p o r n :chugs:

[Knifeboy]

I think, they sold out with the song the widow. How do you go from Inertiatic ESP to the widow? not good.

I laso think they experiment to much but w/e at least they try.

What the ****? How could you possible sell out, yet experiment too much?

[Mr Herb]

What the ****? How could you possible sell out, yet experiment too much?
well they sold out with the widon IMO, that song has been played to death on radio stations here and at the same time they experimented to much. Sounds crazy but hey they pulled it off!\


The widow is as cheesy as hell.

[Knifeboy]

I really don't think there's too much difference between the Widow and Televators (the single for the first album)

[Mr Herb]

Televators is 6 minutes and 20 seconds long, yet the widow clocks in at just below 3 and a half minutes, thats just an average pop song with a fairly catchy chorus or w/e.

[Knifeboy]

What version of the widow are you talking about? the radio version of televators wasn't longer than 4 minutes

[Doomed To Crumble]

i have no idea on how to work audacity

[Mr Herb]

dunno, they one I downloaded. . .

[Knifeboy]

The real version of the widow is longer.. (I know because I almost fell asleep after the first 6 min listening to it)

[Mr Herb]

a well then am wrong.

Still when i listen to televetors, I think is ubber boring, then widow I dunno, hell lot catchier but w/e

[Knifeboy]

I find them both extremely boring, and am very confused why they were chosen for singles.. But I hardly think you could call them selling out

[Mr Herb]

I still think they did, theyd never anything so catchy IMO plus its no were as intense as their past stuff but w/e w/e w/e w/e

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I don't really agree with that interpretation of Lateralus, but you may very well be right, I don't know, to me that song is not very easy to understand. What's everyones opinion on what Parabol/Parabola is about? Honestly, and I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but I think the song is about sex. I don't mean that in an immature way. As a matter of fact, I think Maynard wrote about the topic in a very adult and mature way. I may very well be wrong, but just think about that when you read the lyrics. Here:

Parabol

So familiar and overwhelmingly warm
This one, this form I hold now.
Embracing you, this reality here,
This one, this form I hold now, so
Wide eyed and hopeful.
Wide eyed and hopefully wild.

We barely remember what came before this precious moment,
Choosing to be here right now. Hold on, stay inside...
This body holding me, reminding me that I am not alone in
This body makes me feel eternal. All this pain is an illusion.

Parabola

We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment,
We are Choosing to be here right now. Hold on, stay inside...
This holy reality, this holy experience. Choosing to be here in...

This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal all this pain is an illusion.

Alive

This holy reality, in this holy experience. Choosing to be here in...

This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal all this pain is an illusion...
Of what it means to be alive

Swirling round with this familiar parable.
Spinning, weaving round each new experience.
Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this
chance to be alive and breathing
chance to be alive and breathing.

This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality.
Embrace this moment. Remember. we are eternal.
all this pain is an illusion.

[Mr Herb]

I think its about something eternal. I think it reaffirms the belief that their is an eternal life after this one.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I bought FTM for 8 bucks at Borders when it first came out thinking "Oh, a good new prog album."

I was extremely dissapointed. My definition of progressive music does not include 5 minute mindless guitar wanking or ambience. :angry:

Kage- Glad you liked it. :)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

i have no idea on how to work audacity

What are you having troubles with? I might be able to help you, since I'm the one that told you to get it in the first place. :p

[Moses]

Ok, I have a one take vocal thing and it's only the first verse but it's all for your criticism . I'm going to ask not to critique my pitch because I could tell I was sharp from the beginning.

http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DK22S05XKDJ33KOBZBBQBX7SB

[Darkness]

I'll be the first to critique...


/is downloading.


Edit: Acutually its not that bad. Its kinda noticeable that your a bit young, but its still really good. I like it. :thumb:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Dammit! Why don't you just send the segment that you recorded!!

:emo56k: :lol:

I'll give you my word when I'm finished DLing it.

[Moses]

Is it taking that long? Man.

[Knifeboy]

That wasn't bad actually.... It was actually quite good

[Moses]

Acutually its not that bad. Its kinda noticeable that your a bit young, but its still really good. I like it. :thumb:
I'll have to rerecord it still and do the rest of it. I'm 16 by the way.

[Knifeboy]

I'll be the first to critique...


Damn you beat me by a minute!

[Darkness]

I'll have to rerecord it still and do the rest of it. I'm 16 by the way.
Yeah I know your 16, you didn't see our conversation about our ages a few pages back? Most of us are 16. (including myself and Jake)

[BlindWriting]

16 as well.

[Moses]

Yeah I know your 16, you didn't see our conversation about our ages a few pages back? Most of us are 16. (including myself and Jake)
Oh, cool. I heard your Drapery Falls vox. It was good, but I have one question. Is your voice just really low or do you just have a technique?

That's so wierd how we're almost all 16.....

[Darkness]

Acutually that recording sucked, I was a bit sick when I did it. I've been working on my growl for the past while and hope to get another recording part up... I really want to do some Opeth vocals. :) My voice isn't that low, I'm pretty monotone when I talk though, but I do have a technique for growling.... I'd tell you what I do but its really hard to describe.

[Moses]

Acutually that recording sucked, I was a bit sick when I did it. I've been working on my growl for the past while and hope to get another recording part up... I really want to do some Opeth vocals. :) My voice isn't that low, I'm pretty monotone when I talk though, but I do have a technique for growling.... I'd tell you what I do but its really hard to describe.
My technique for death growls is probably the most common but I can do it forever. Bite down on your finger, then remove it, and push through.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Kage and Clearvision are both 16 as well. I think almost all the main posters are 16, with the exception of Ben. :lol:

27% on the DL...:confetti:

[Moses]

Kage and Clearvision are both 16 as well. I think almost all the main posters are 16, with the exception of Ben. :lol:

27% on the DL...:confetti:
My god.....

By main poster's you mean Tool regulars right? Steerpike is in college and Anti-hero, I think, just got out.

[Darkness]

..I don't know what you meen?

[Moses]

..I don't know what you meen?
Well, the finger is just a technique for other people when they ask how to do it without it hurting. I don't do it everytime I growl.


NP: Groundhog's Day- Primus

[Darkness]

I'll stick with my technique...


I hurt my finger when I tried yours... :p

[Moses]

I'll stick with my technique...


I hurt my finger when I tried yours... :p
Good job.... :thumb:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I tried the thumb thing. It sounded funny. I started talking with my throat like that and I sounded like Jar Jar Binks. :lol:

And I also meant ITT, we're all 16. There are plenty of people younger and older than us.


92%!!!

[Moses]

I tried the thumb thing. It sounded funny. I started talking with my throat like that and I sounded like Jar Jar Binks. :lol:

And I also meant ITT, we're all 16. There are plenty of people younger and older than us.


92%!!!
In all this time I could have went back, shortened it, and uploaded it again.

Jar-Jar Binks? I don't know how you managed to get that sound trying to do a growl......

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I got it. Sounds good. You got good quality. I wanna hear more though!!! :p

I got the Jar Jar sound from talking with the same motion that you use for the growl. Bah, it's hard to explain.

[Moses]

Sweet, glad everyone likes it so far.

Also this time I only added a dash of echo.

[Darkness]

I acutually just nailed the intro growl to the Moor. I'll have to get this recorded soon...


And I liked the echo you added. Added nice flavour.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You'll be able to record the whole thing soon right?

I talked with The JoZ, and he was on his way to get his bass and his pedal so that he could record a couple things. He said that he would come and post them tonight. He pretty much garunteed it, so if he doesn't have em up, I may have to fly to Virginia and record them my self. :lol:

[Moses]

I acutually just nailed the intro growl to the Moor. I'll have to get this recorded soon...


And I liked the echo you added. Added nice flavour.
Thanks.

Anyway, how is the Opeth thread doing? I don't know of any of the other threads' progress.

[Moses]

You'll be able to record the whole thing soon right?

I talked with The JoZ, and he was on his way to get his bass and his pedal so that he could record a couple things. He said that he would come and post them tonight. He pretty much garunteed it, so if he doesn't have em up, I may have to fly to Virginia and record them my self. :lol:
Jeeze, he hasn't been on in FOREVER.

Well I'll definately try to record as much as I can. Tomorrow is a possibility, as is Saturday.

[Darkness]

Thanks.

Anyway, how is the Opeth thread doing? I don't know of any of the other threads' progress.
I'm not to sure, but I know nothing major has been posted. I'm not really involved (yet...) in the compition so I'm not really keeping a close eye on the thread.

[Moses]

I'm gonna go look for it and see how much is done.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

The JoZ said that he isn't posting on mx any more because of all the idiots.

He could just stay in this thread....:lol:

[Darkness]

Or maybe hes talking about us? :(

[Moses]

****......... Probably.

Where else would he post? Most forums have just as much or more idiots, and this forum is getting a surge of good threads everyday.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

He posted in the Pit a lot I think...Meh he should be on soon..I hope at least.

[Darkness]

This is easily the worst forum ever: www.genmay.com

Just go browse... you'll soon see why its the worst/funniest.

[Lateralias]

I tried the thumb thing. It sounded funny. I started talking with my throat like that and I sounded like Jar Jar Binks. :lol:

And I also meant ITT, we're all 16. There are plenty of people younger and older than us.


92%!!!

Only 15 here..

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a45/DrJakeDestructo/spam.jpg

Grr!!! His away message is what's pissing me off.

Lateralias- Close enough. :D

[Darkness]

The sleeping thing? yeah thats vexing...

[ThePatient]

What is everyone downloading? Yeah, I know, I'm nosey.

[Moses]

What is everyone downloading? Yeah, I know, I'm nosey.
The first verse of Forty-Six & Two that I recorded vocals for.

http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DK22S05XKDJ33KOBZBBQBX7SB

[Darkness]

letmypeopleho's vocal sample of 46&2.


Edit: beaten...

[ThePatient]

Oooooh, that's what I get for only popping in this thread once a day or so.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

The sleeping thing? yeah thats vexing...

He was supposed to record Stinkfist, and either Lateralus or Ænema by tonight. I told me that he was on his way to get his bass, and then he was going to record them.

Vexing, no. Anger inducing, yes. Especially since I've been harrasing him for them for over a week.

Patient- Been a while since you've been here! We're doing covers of Tool songs. We're doing Stinkfist, Lateralus, Ænema, 46&2 (The best one so far) and a couple others. :thumb:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/thelachrymologists_music.htm

Here are a few of em. :thumb:

[Darkness]

I should like, record the intro to Lateralus on guitar, just so I can say that I participated. :D

[Moses]

I think we should do Ticks and Leeches, my scream sounds pretty strong right about now.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I could guitarize that. Marshall are deathly afraid of that song though. :lol:
Sliptallica can play it, not sure what kind of recording capabilities he has though...

Anyway, I'm going to remain optomistic and assume that The JoZ is taking a nap. :D

[Moses]

I could guitarize that. Marshall are deathly afraid of that song though. :lol:
Sliptallica can play it, not sure what kind of recording capabilities he has though...

Anyway, I'm going to remain optomistic and assume that The JoZ is taking a nap. :D
Oh yeah, I just forgot about that. Maybe Matter could do drums.....

[ThePatient]

Patient- Been a while since you've been here! We're doing covers of Tool songs. We're doing Stinkfist, Lateralus, Ænema, 46&2 (The best one so far) and a couple others. :thumb:
Oh yeah, I did know that. I posted a while back that I'd help out with any bass Joz didn't feel like doing, but I never got a response.

I just haven't been on a lot lately because I've been with my band just about everyday since graduation a few weeks ago.

[Kage]

I picked up a guitar that I don't mind tuning down to B on, so I'm trying to learn Parabola right now. This is the first time I've laid eyes on the tab, so I still need to learn the whole thing, but it would be a fun song to do.

[Moses]

I picked up a guitar that I don't mind tuning down to B on, so I'm trying to learn Parabola right now. This is the first time I've laid eyes on the tab, so I still need to learn the whole thing, but it would be a fun song to do.
Did you hear my vocals?

[Kage]

Listening right now.

[Kage]

Ah, I was really looking forward to when the chorus came crashing in. Alas, no vocals.

But what you have is good. This song is shaping up really well so far.

[Moses]

Ah, I was really looking forward to when the chorus came crashing in. Alas, no vocals.

But what you have is good. This song is shaping up really well so far.
I thought I was sharp on "my shadow", and some was just not really that on. I'll have to rerecord it eventually, and yeah I was only able to get the verse before my step-dad came home.

[Kage]

Sounds good though, except for the mixing being slightly awkward.

Who did the guitars for 46&2?

[Moses]

Sounds good though, except for the mixing being slightly awkward.

Who did the guitars for 46&2?
Rounder.

[Moses]

Man, MX is really stale today. Jake was right.

[Darkness]

I've had a shred fest going on all night. No time for mx for me. :D

[Moses]

Well whatever I'm out for the night...........

Night everyone.

[Darkness]

Yeah me to...

Audioslave then night night...

Edit: 5 more posts tell my first 1000... its taken a year +, but I'm almost there.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh yeah, I did know that. I posted a while back that I'd help out with any bass Joz didn't feel like doing, but I never got a response.

I just haven't been on a lot lately because I've been with my band just about everyday since graduation a few weeks ago.

Hey, since Kage is doing Parabol/a, you wanna do that?

[Darkness]

Ah, before bed I must hear the new Opeth song! Go to the Opeth thread to download.

[Lateralias]

46&2 sounds wonderful guys! Matter nailed that solo. Good job with the vocals moses... and good luck with that chorus.

[Merkaba]

I need to see if my library has that book. Who is it by again? Is it an Ailister Crowely book?

Oh, and about the astral projection thing- I beleive that Lateralus is about astral projection. I'm going to do a lyrical analysis right now, as a matter of fact. :)

Merkaba is also a song about astral projection as far as I'm concerned. For those of you who don't know, a merkaba is a sort of vehicle used for interdimensional travel.
Merkaba is about merkaba I'm sure. Its based on the the sacred geometrical electromagnetic fields the living body emits. the "light body". You can project with it but its hard. I had to pay and get trained over three days to do it. I had to sign a freaking contract not to share the direct techniques because the shlt is real and if half arsin' it can lead to problems. I do merkaba everyday but I dont do it deeply everyday. You kinda do maintenance activations everyday, even if it takes only five minutes. But of course you get ouf of it what you put in.

ITs also rumored to be connected to Astral Projecting/meditating. Because when you're about to "switch" bodys (ie. physical body to astral) supposedly you hear static.

I've been reading alot of Astral projecting books and Nothing In This Book Is True, But Its Exactly The Way Things Are :p
I think I had mentioned that before. Ions sounds pretty much exactly like an amplified, slow movement from the physical through the etheric body and into the astral.

------------
Shameless plug...I have a metaphysics thread open in the political/world views whatever pit.

[Kage]

Hey, since Kage is doing Parabol/a, you wanna do that?
Might be doing Parabola.

[Merkaba]

I think Lateralus is not very hard to paraphrase because its meaning is so clear.... The last three lines explain the whole meaning of the song. Parabola and H. are songs that I still haven't figured out.
Isnt H about a near death experience and the whole evil angel on one shoulder and good angel on the other thing i remember him talking about it during a show?....pale angel go away...the devil has my ear today I'll never hear a word you say.

edit: yes i Know those are apc lyrics....but do you get the point?

[Iplaythegeeeeetar!]

Isnt H about a near death experience and the whole evil angel on one shoulder and good angel on the other thing?....pale angel go away...the devil has my ear today I'll never hear a word you say.
hahahhahaha that's weak and powerless by a perfect circle i think

[Merkaba]

I love Mars. I loved ATDI's relationship of command. I kinda slept on Deloused for a while until rediscovering it now I cant live without it. A wonderful album. Now Frances...I love the first passages and the widow. But i havent ventured much into the rest of it. But i respect them for doing what the hell they want regardless.

Ithink that the thunder-esque noises in Negative Ions is a peice of sheet getting twisted about. Just a random theory of mine. :p
I always thought so too...remembering seeing that done on some show behind the scenes for thunder sounds.

I'd do meditation if it guaranteed a prolonged orgasm.
For that you should look into the tao and semen retention. If you start you wont stop. There is nothing like it. I swear to you I have had multiple orgasms twice that were at least half a minute or more. You should check out my metaphysics thread in the politics pit.

[Merkaba]

hahahhahaha that's weak and powerless by a perfect circle i think
I know...I was showing how it seems to be a realistic notion, seeing as how the analogy is on his mind more than once.

[clearvision]

I could nail some vocals if i could just wrk out how to best record my voice...

Mic ---> guitar amp ---> Line in

Isn't working too well. The stuff i have got recorded and have shown to people. The comments was, the singing is good, sounds quite like MJK. Though i need to sort out the clipping/volume of the sounds.

Will check out the metaphysics thread now, I've been wanting a slightly dumbed down perspective of all this shizz, alot of the stuff on the net is wierd.

[Moses]

I could nail some vocals if i could just wrk out how to best record my voice...

Mic ---> guitar amp ---> Line in

Isn't working too well. The stuff i have got recorded and have shown to people. The comments was, the singing is good, sounds quite like MJK. Though i need to sort out the clipping/volume of the sounds.
You, should post them if you still have the recordings. :thumb:

[Moses]

Bump/

And these are sooo freakin funny.....

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/gijoe.html

[ThePatient]

Hey, since Kage is doing Parabol/a, you wanna do that?

Might be doing Parabola

If you want to do it, I don't see why not. All of my bass stuff is at someone else's house, but I should be able to get it back today or tommorow.

If anyone wants to do H., I'd definetly be up for doing it.

[Moses]

If you want to do it, I don't see why not. All of my bass stuff is at someone else's house, but I should be able to get it back today or tommorow.

If anyone wants to do H., I'd definetly be up for doing it.
I don't think Joz will be doing this, you should go for Lateralus.

[ThePatient]

I could do that too, but I was under the impression he had already done Lateralus.

[Moses]

I didn't know we already did it......

Is that a drum machine on Lateralus or is that Marshall?

[Moses]

Nobody's here.

NP Stuck- Limp Biztkit from Three Dollar Bill Ya'll, the only good album from L.B.

[Darkness]

Looks like the curse continues...

[Moses]

Yeah, first sign of it in a while though....

Hopefully everyone will log on tonight and we can have one of those 30 page Tool talks like we did that one night.

[Mr Herb]

if anyone is interest you can go voer to aperfectcircle.net and download an mp3 of maynard talking on a radio show, its edited so it has no comercials or ****, its pretty long thou. The show was recent, 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Just go to apc.net and read some of the bulletins posted, the link is supposed to be in one of the first thingys.

[Moses]

Thanks I'll have to remember to check it out.

[Darkness]

Yeah, first sign of it in a while though....

Hopefully everyone will log on tonight and we can have one of those 30 page Tool talks like we did that one night.
But I won't be on tonight...:( make it tomorrow night.:D

[Moses]

Man, I'm surprised that not that many people like Three Dollar Bill Y'all. It's actually really good, especially if you look at it from a Trip-Hop view. The instrumentals are incredible, especially the rythm section.

Attn. Limp Bizkit has a progressive 16:28 minute song. It's very Toolesque.

[Moses]

I'm going to do the dishes and when I come back, I'm doing a thread on Three Dollar Bill Y'all, because I'm just that amazed how overlooked it is. I wish the LB bashers would shut up.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Could somebody post that LB song? I'd like to hear.

[Moses]

Sure, you're talking about the 16:28 min. one right?

[Moses]

I was already uploading this one so here's a song while you wait. The bassline is so freaking awesome.
http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=059QN1AC34DZ11ZCTGPGK2P4OB


I'll have the 16:28 one in a couple minutes. Mostly instrumental aside from a couple backround noises from Durst.

[Darkness]

Fred Durst is the reason why they are bashed, and also the reason I disslike them. I'm sure their all fine musicians but with Fred on the vox, it destroys it competly. That Fred Shred thing is one of the funniest things I've ever seen... have you seen that?

[Moses]

Oh, yes. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I had quite a laugh at that. Wow, I wonder how long he's been playing. Maybe that was his first time.

I love that little bend he tries to do......

[Darkness]

Yeah, the bends make it great. Then he's like "SHAG MY FRIENDS TONIGHT!" and the crowd stil cheers for him... its sad really.

[Moses]

I just love how dumb people can really be. I would cheer for him too. Not because of his guitar skills but because he fooled a whole crowd into thinking that was a quality solo.

[clearvision]

He plays the st anger riff in the middle of that vid :lol:

I like his voice, I don't see why people slate him so much. i have chocolate starfish and used to love it, It's still ok and ahs some good songs, Boiler, It'll be OK. But it's not one of my favourite albums.

[Moses]

Durst's best performance is definately on the song Stuck......

"Psycho female blowin up the phone line
You need to tighten that screw, it's been loose for a long time
I've been slammed with some bad luck
Soon I'm gonna bring you doom with the buck, buck
And now you duck duck goose, I'm lettin' loose
With the thirty odd freestyle
Labeled hostile by my profile
Must be all the madness
You and all your tactics
Jonesin for my cash
Got to make them pockets super phat
Hey I'm a humble man
Kicking out the jams like a tramp
I'm gonna stick it like a stamp to this business
What's with all the business
I get paid to take the microphone and slay the stage
Stay away from all the bros. in my band
And all the fans and
All my friends is when the cash is coming in
Or i'll be slammin them balls to the wall
With the ink on my flesh and the yes, yes y'all
No 9 to 5, I'll still survive
I keep my engine on that amp like a Chattanooga champ
That's all we need, another bad seed
Planted on this earth motivated by greed"

[Kage]

I actually used to be a huge 3 Dollar Bill fan, and I still like it now. It's a weird album, but actually very good.

[Moses]

The review on Sputnik is complete crap.

I also just made a thread about it.

[willis2441]

why you guys talkin 'bout durst in a tool thread?

[Kage]

Do you have any Tool news?

[Moses]

Exactly.

[Moses]

I was going to get the rest of the vox for 46&2 up, but I forgot that I had band practice for the band I play drums in.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Moses- Drum machine. :-/

[Darkness]

What a dead thread...


Anybody have any progress on the covers or anything?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Marshall tried recording Stinkfist(drums) but he was having trouble getting the timing right.

The JoZ said that if he got off his lazy ***, he would restring his bass and record Stinkfist or something. (His words)

So no real progress yet, but soon there may be something at least. :-/

[SmashingPumpkin]

I can play Stinkfist on guitar...

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So can this sexy beast. (http://www.soundclick.com/util/downloadSong.cfm?ID=2549260)

That's my recording of Stinkfist.

[Moses]

Oh, well I think I have some time now to record my vocals but I'm not going to post it again till it's all the way finished.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Durst's best performance is definately on the song Stuck......

"Psycho female blowin up the phone line
You need to tighten that screw, it's been loose for a long time
I've been slammed with some bad luck
Soon I'm gonna bring you doom with the buck, buck
And now you duck duck goose, I'm lettin' loose
With the thirty odd freestyle
Labeled hostile by my profile
Must be all the madness
You and all your tactics
Jonesin for my cash
Got to make them pockets super phat
Hey I'm a humble man
Kicking out the jams like a tramp
I'm gonna stick it like a stamp to this business
What's with all the business
I get paid to take the microphone and slay the stage
Stay away from all the bros. in my band
And all the fans and
All my friends is when the cash is coming in
Or i'll be slammin them balls to the wall
With the ink on my flesh and the yes, yes y'all
No 9 to 5, I'll still survive
I keep my engine on that amp like a Chattanooga champ
That's all we need, another bad seed
Planted on this earth motivated by greed"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Moses]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I was serious, I actually thought that was a decent rhyme.

[ThePatient]

I WOULD start practicing Parabola (assuming Kage decides he wants to do it), but when I picked up my bass and pedal from my drummer's house, I left my cords there. So I'll probably have to wait until tommorow. And I have to go buy new adapters so I can use the Line-In on my computer. :(

[Moses]

NP Anakin's Dark Deeds, Star Wars Soundtrack

John Williams> everything

[Mr Herb]

dudes play parabola! Thats a heack of a song!

[ThePatient]

NP Anakin's Dark Deeds, Star Wars Soundtrack

John Williams> everything
Is that off of III's soundtrack?

[Moses]

Yesh.

[ThePatient]

You wouldn't happen to have the bonus track that you get off of the internet if you buy that cd would you?

[Moses]

I didn't know of any bonus track......

[ThePatient]

Oh, well you can get a bonus track off of the internet if you follow the intstructions on the cd case. My internet messed up when I tried and it never downloaded, but it said it did. and now I can't get it.

[Moses]

Try Limewire or somthing....

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Moses, ease up on the spammy posts. :p

NP: type of things, goodbyes, etc...Just a heads up so a mod doesn't get to you first.

Anyways, Patient, can you play Ticks & Leeches, too? I think we're trying to put that one together.

[Moses]

Sorry, I can't help it. MX is really slow and boring and I just have to. Besides those NP things were to start up some discussion.

[ThePatient]

Never tried, but I don't see why not. I'll look into it later tonight or tommorow when I can play.

[BlindWriting]

John Williams is great. He's never written a bad score.
I got to meet him after seeing a concert of his. Really really nice guy.

[whatduffhuck7]

anybody else in here a big fan of Katatonia? i love em. they remind alot of opeth, and them and opeth are good friends (so ive herd). opeth is how i found out about this band. and i love em.

[Moses]

Hey, everyone should check out my Limp Bizkit thread. There's a progressive 16:28 min. song in there that Tool fans might appreciate.

[Kage]

anybody else in here a big fan of Katatonia? i love em. they remind alot of opeth, and them and opeth are good friends (so ive herd). opeth is how i found out about this band. and i love em.
I love Katatonia. I've listened to them quite a lot lately. I just really like the atmosphere they create.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Are they anything like Porcupine Tree?

You may think it's random, but from what I've gathered, they sound like they may be like PT. The tipoffs were 'friends of Opeth' and 'atmosphere.' 2 things both bands share, apparently.

[Kage]

No they're a lot different from PT, actually.

I'll upload some songs.

[Kage]

Katatonia - Criminals (http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=06C6DGG290F6327ITLQG2BIQPY)
Katatonia - Ghost of the Sun (http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0D28ZVLHUA7752ZIY1SYBN7SCY)
Katatonia - Nightmares by the Sea (http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=196FEHEG9KBE41JS45UKW9DZER)
Katatonia - Burn the Remembrance (http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1HLS97OKUN6YJ2TJ6DT0D4XLXS)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh, hey, by the way Kage- I DLed 2 of the the 3 Isis songs that you uploaded for me a couple weeks ago. I didn't find them quite as good as everyone makes them seem. In Fiction was the better of the 2 (Catalyst was the other) but I still found it very slow, and it just seemed to drag on. I felt as if I was anticipating something that wasn't going to come...Same thing with Catalyst. Couple powerchords, some feedback, and a few growls. :-/ Maybe I just need to give the songs a few more listens.

:lol: This thread has become the community thread, and the community thread has become the Tool thread. Interesting.

EDIT: I forgot to celebrate 4k! :upset:

I'm listening to In Fiction again. The section from about 4 minutes to the end reminds me a lot of the Aussie band Cog. Pretty much everything but the vocals sounds extremely remeniscient of the band. The song is growing on me...Which album of thier's would you reccomend me? I hear a lot about Panapticon or something. Is that one good?

45% on the DL of Criminals. :-/ :mollasses:

[Kage]

Isis is my least favorite of that breed of band. Personally, I like the slow, droning, building sound. Even if there is no reward.

Here's a song from a band called Pelican, which is similar, but in my opinion better. Also, they are instrumental:
http://www.stonerrock.com/jukebox/Pelican-Mammoth.mp3

Mouth of the Architect is an amazing band in my opinion. More atmospheric, but still droning and heavy. I just love that style for some reason:
http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/4212/index.php

[Kage]

I'm listening to In Fiction again. The section from about 4 minutes to the end reminds me a lot of the Aussie band Cog. Pretty much everything but the vocals sounds extremely remeniscient of the band. The song is growing on me...Which album of thier's would you reccomend me? I hear a lot about Panapticon or something. Is that one good?

45% on the DL of Criminals. :-/ :mollasses:
I would say Panopticon, yes, but Oceanic is also very good. Panopticon is going to be more dynamic, but Oceanic is heavier.

Ugh...you're on dial up tonight, eh?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ok, I've given Catalyst another listen, and I have concluded that it sounds a lot like Slipknot, but slower. :p The vocals are double trackedin places, which makes for some interesting harmonies, if you will. Other than that, I'd say I'm fonder of In Fiction.

I'll download those other 4 songs tonight some time. 5 more percents and the song will be done!

Dude, I'm always on dialup! :lol:

Criminals was a pretty good song, though. I liked the simple yet effective guitar effects. Nothing special, but they sounded good one the song.

"It's not like I owe him money"

[Kage]

Hmm.. Slipknot, huh? Can't say I ever saw that connection. In Fiction is a better song than Catalyst...I don't even like Catalyst that much. Like I said, of all the Post-Metal bands I listen to, Isis is my least favorite.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

It was the first thing I tied it with. Knot's vocalist does a lot of that sort of background moaning, gagging, etc..The guitarists in both bands (or just in Catalyst) use the sort of discordant 'one solo in the right ear, another in the left' concept. It can be pulled off well, but I wasn't too fond of the mixing done on that song. Lots of metal bands do that technique (Slayer also comes to mind, but it was more of a Slipknot tempo) but the usually have the solos going at seperate times, but 2 different solos at once. It was interesting to say the least. :lol:

EDIT: Moses, I got your AIM message, I was busy typing out this post to respond before you went off line. Do it when you can. :thumb:

I've decided to lay back on this contest. I told Marshall this, but I might as well share it with everyone. I've been pushing deadlines on people, but whatever, we have 5 weeks. :p

[Kage]

You should listen to Mouth of the Architect. I think they're 10x better than Isis, and I'm an Isis fan.


EDIT: Jake, my AIM is Headshokk7, and I've seen you on and tried to say something, but everytime I message you I never get a response. Just telling you in case you didn't reply because you didn't know who I was.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I've never seen one of your windows pop up...I think that my AIM is wrong on my profile. I added you right now. See what happens...I'll check out the MotA after dinner. I'm not sure how long I'm gonna be online for.

[Moses]

Well, since it's on the dreaded page 2, this calls for a......

/Bump

My AIM is Letmypeopleho69 if anyone wanted to know..........
And yeah Jake I also just realized we have 5 weeks.

Hehe, page 420 :lol: