Tool

[magicaltrollII]

/cool enough to post on page 400 :chug:

[Moses]

Sweet.

Where did all the Tool regulars go? :upset:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Where is the backing track to Stinkfist? I wanna record my vocals tomorrow.

HAAAAA

SCREW YOU ALL PAGE FOUR HUNDRED!!!!

Was that over the top enough?
I have it.

I'll insert the link here (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/thelachrymologists_music.htm)

The link is now edited, so click there to get the backing track.

It's actually the soundclick with a few of our cover songs on it. The Stinkfist is only me playing guitar, but it is what we're going to use as a backing track. :-/ Don't ask.

Moses- If you don't want to get ignored, you must you size 7 bold font. (Do NOT use orange though. That's my color.) :cool:

[Darkness]

I'm just posting, because I want a post on page 400, since I assisted in getting here. :)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I figured this was as good a place as any to ask.

I'm going to start a record collection now that I have some loose cash to throw around. I figured a good place to start was Tool. I've found Opiate, Undertow, and Aenima vinyls so far. Does anyone know where I can find Lateralus on vinyl? I've checked the local stores around here, as well as Ebay with no luck. Also, is there an vinyl version of Salival?

Thanks.


They didn't release Lateralus on vinyl. It's the only album they've not put out on vinyl, so my guess is that it shall come out some day. Perhaps along with Teleincision. (In that case, perhaps never. :p)

[Darkness]

Theres no Salival either.

[bassplayerx]

TOOL...is....really good!

[Futuro]

TOOL...is....really good!

i like the spice girls better....they are more my sound :naughty:

[guitarist.kid]

I want a post on page 400 but what guitar uses Adam, I know its a Gibson but...

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

2 1979 Gibson Les Pauls. One green sunburst, one silver sunburst.

Oh, and by the way, your avatar is ****ed! :thumb:

DtC- The edit button comes in handy every once in a while.

[Doomed To Crumble]

doesnt adam use a lez paul?

[magicaltrollII]

doesnt adam use a lez paul?
Les* Paul.

[Doomed To Crumble]

sorry les paul

[Doomed To Crumble]

can any drummers tell me how i can tune my snare to the sound that danny has in lateralus

[Mr Herb]

Erm I dont know but w/e he may have several snares. faith might able to tell ya

[Futuro]

can any drummers tell me how i can tune my snare to the sound that danny has in lateralus

what kind of snare do you have....that will be the deciding factor there. :)

[Doomed To Crumble]

i have a PDP snare made from Drum workshop

[Futuro]

dimensions i mean, How many plies? thickness of plies ? depth ? diameter?

[Doomed To Crumble]

no idea ive only been playing drums for about 2 years and im self tought. unfortunatly im not very knowledgeable when it comes to my gear but im getting there

[Futuro]

im self taught also :) what type of heads do you have ? any extra info will help me ;)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I never thought of tuning a drum. Can you actually hear the note of the drum? Like..E or something??

[Futuro]

I never thought of tuning a drum. Can you actually hear the note of the drum? Like..E or something??

very tedious to do but yes you can . tuning a drum is more or less to get a desired sound or tone not pitch, roto toms and single headed toms allow tuning to a note much easier (terry bozzio) .but its not needed for double headed drums. :)

[Moses]

very tedious to do but yes you can . tuning a drum is more or less to get a desired sound or tone not pitch, roto toms and single headed toms allow tuning to a note much easier (terry bozzio) .but its not needed for double headed drums. :)
Terry Bozzio kicks ***. I'll upload a solo from him in the morning.

[Moses]

I have it.

I'll insert the link here (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/thelachrymologists_music.htm)

The link is now edited, so click there to get the backing track.

It's actually the soundclick with a few of our cover songs on it. The Stinkfist is only me playing guitar, but it is what we're going to use as a backing track. :-/ Don't ask.

Moses- If you don't want to get ignored, you must you size 7 bold font. (Do NOT use orange though. That's my color.) :cool:
I realize that, I will edit my page fourhundred post with ribbons and firworks :thumb:

Anyway, thanks for the backing track.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

(You forgot the :confetti: smiley)

[Moses]

(You forgot the :confetti: smiley)
Knew I was forgeting somthing.........

Ok fix'd.

[Joelbassman]

I want to join this thread as a regular.

Long time Tool Fan...

...No-time Tool thread poster.


:)

[Moses]

I want to join this thread as a regular.

Long time Tool Fan...

...No-time Tool thread poster.


:)
And you've been on MX for 7 months? Shame on you.

[Futuro]

I want to join this thread as a regular.

Long time Tool Fan...

...No-time Tool thread poster.


:)

im new here too, but its the best thread in the RandM IMO :chug: best way to celebrate is too have another brew :)

[Moses]

This thread was kind of dead today. I'm going to sleep after I post my progress on my bands song.

[Joelbassman]

Hey nobodies perfect ;)

So I saw on someones username that the new Tool cd is out August...

Is this true?


:)

[Moses]

Hey nobodies perfect ;)

So I saw on someones username that the new Tool cd is out August...

Is this true?


:)
Supposedly that's the DVD release. The CD I think is rumored for September.

[Moses]

Ok here's my bands song so far. Not done yet, got about 3 more minutes left to do, maybe more.

Ugh crap. I closed the window before I copied the link. Just a few more minutes.

[Moses]

Here we go.

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=181LR4N2GGJVZ1S9JCAND7N0ZP

Oh, and bump. (and triple post) :thumb:

[Kage]

Supposedly that's the DVD release. The CD I think is rumored for September.
That'd be awesome for me. I can definately wait that long, compared to what I was thinking.


Here we go.

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=181LR4N2GGJVZ1S9JCAND7N0ZP

Oh, and bump. (and triple post)

Will listen in a few minutes. Right now I'm critiquing my own song that I just recorded.

[Joelbassman]

Supposedly that's the DVD release. The CD I think is rumored for September.
Sot he whole Maynard loves Jesus issue was all wrong :D


:)

[Moses]

That'd be awesome for me. I can definately wait that long, compared to what I was thinking.
Will listen in a few minutes. Right now I'm critiquing my own song that I just recorded.
As for the dates that's only what I've been hearing and I'm not expecting anything. Alot of bands delay for like five months anyway. You should post the song when you're done.

[Moses]

Sot he whole Maynard loves Jesus issue was all wrong :D


:)
Well it was an April fools joke, but that doesn't mean he can't be a Christian.

[Joelbassman]

Yeah I didn't hate the fact he was christian it was the fact that he was stopping recording for it.


:)

[Moses]

Yeah I didn't hate the fact he was christian it was the fact that he was stopping recording for it.


:)
Wait, I didn't know that was part of the rumor. :confused:

[Kage]

As for the dates that's only what I've been hearing and I'm not expecting anything. Alot of bands delay for like five months anyway. You should post the song when you're done.
The recording of it is extremely rough on an analog recorder with only guitars, but when my band finishes the song with a good recording, I'll be sure to post it here.

I'm still working out some things in the song, so give me a few minutes on the song you uploaded. :cool:

[Joelbassman]

Well that's what I heard anyways that why I was so eager to ask about the relase date.

Man, Tool really do know how to keep fans anxious. It better be worth it.

One more album and they'll be 65 and will want to retire :p


:)

[Kage]

That's what we're all afraid of.

[Joelbassman]

Anyone got the Guitar Pro tab for Sweat?

I'm out to learn all Tool songs on bass, starting with sweat and working my way through. *sighs*


:)

[Moses]

Danny Carey would deteriorate to nothing, and Maynard's voice would become frail. Well, not much on age and guitar or bass except arthritis.

[One Groovin Clown]

it iwll happen one day, dare i say it? One day there will no longer be no new Tool releases :( but i could wait till next year for they're new album.

[Joelbassman]

Oh and I'd learn off the Mxtab but the timings are a little wierd and I can't hear the bass on the parts I need to.


:)

[Phobophile]

"The CD I think is rumored for September"-doubtful

"Well it was an April fools joke, but that doesn't mean he can't be a Christian."-doubtful

"One more album and they'll be 65 and will want to retire"-most likely :upset:

[Joelbassman]

it iwll happen one day, dare i say it? One day there will no longer be no new Tool releases :( but i could wait till next year for they're new album.
I think we all could if it meant not having them grow old.

*Cries at the thought*


:)

[Phobophile]

tooltabs.net provide pretty in depth know how. Don't use the Guitar pro tabs they for some reason for Tool they sound NOTHING like they are supposed to.GP works great for every band but tool and I have no idea why.however if you wanted to on your own you could take the the tabs from tooltabs.net and put in your own GP

[Merkaba]

Well I just uncovered my old noisey effects processor today. I think I'm gonna rerecord Stinkfist in the afternoon and use it. It adds some hiss but I hope its not too much. If it is I'll chalk it. Anyways. cheerio.

[Mr Herb]

Wow. after this cd the next tool album will come out when am 21 or 22 porbably, wonder If ill still listen to them when that time comes.

And after thinking aobut it. . . Blair is a funny man



ALso, maynard appeared on a radio show with josh freese last week on the LA area.....he sed notn bout the nu cd

[Joelbassman]

tooltabs.net provide pretty in depth playing ability. Don't use the Guitar pro tabs they for some reason for Tool they sound NOTHING like they are supposed to.GP works great for every band but tool and I have no idea why.however if you wanted to on your own you could take the the tabs from tooltabs.net and put in your own GP
****it...

I wish more Mx Tabbers would tab to GP. :(

http://tooltabs.net

*links self*


:)

[Phobophile]

GP is a top notch program but I have not run into ONE single half-decent Tool tab on GP.They are all horribly timed and they are horribly mistabbed. I am talking about the ones off of mysongbook.com btw.

[Futuro]

lateralus is correct except for the drum part.

[Pyrophilliac]

people always criticise Adam as he uses a lot of effects and people say he doesn't have much skill as a guitarist (although anyone who hears his amazing tremelos/speed picking will know otherwise).

I (obviously) think he's great. Its not just guitaring, it's also his videos and artwork that helps make Tool great


Adam is the weakest link as far as technical skill on his instrument....sorry but true his skills are no where near as evolved as maynards voice, justins bass abilities, and NO WHERE NEAR danny on drums.....and the tremelo/speed picking you speak of is nothing...(listen to dream theater and children of bodom if u want to see TRUE skill on the guitar) however adam jones doesn't play the normal role in tool that guitarists generally play in bands, he accents the rest of the music... it works out great. he is very good at what he does which is writing artsy riffs etc.
he's not about raw skill but about what works best for their music.

and as far as the comment on them being satanists...they are all against ALL organized religion...including satanism (which is just as bad as any of the others(no offense but true)

[Vandle]

His skill to create riffs that suit the music are obviously just as high as the other members skills are at what they bring to the band. How do you know how good he is at tremelo picking/speed picking ? Have you heard him play a dream theatre song or Nile song...?

How do you know what they are for and against ?

[clearvision]

WTF?

Adam's use of effects are second to none, morello comes close, but not quite. Please try and recreate the tone in triad.

Justin isn't too special compared to really amazing bassists like Myung...

Adam does a great job with complementing maynard, thats the way the band works...

Justin + Danny just set the groove of the song, Maynard creates the melody then adam just ties it all up.

[Rothmans]

I am actually starting to get annoyed about people saying how great maynard is, he isnt actually that good all he has is a great sounding voice he doesnt have much range or anything. The most amazing thing he has done is the scream in the Grudge and if some people tried hard enough they could do it.

All in all Maynard has a unique good sounding voice barely any range and he practically uss the same tone all the time.

[Kurrpt]

well id say, name someone in that genre, or similar genre that is better, and ill take your post into consideration

[clearvision]

Myanrds voice gives the music a distant feel, his voice is pretty surreal, it doesn't rasp like people like chris cornell and stuff. It's is very smooth and he controls it well, his best moment is the last couple of minutes of Push!t. HIs voice can take the back seat easily, wheras other vocalists cannot do this.

[Kurrpt]

there are so many aspects to singing, that not a having a HUGE range, doesnt mean you cant kick arse. Hes no classically trained opera singer, but he is prolly the best voice in rock right now

[Rothmans]

there are so many aspects to singing, that not a having a HUGE range, doesnt mean you cant kick arse. Hes no classically trained opera singer, but he is prolly the best voice in rock right now


I dont think range is the most important thing in vocals but there is better singers in rock.

[Kurrpt]

I dont think range is the most important thing in vocals but there is better singers in rock.


this is the part of the story where Rothman supports his argument with examples :thumb:

[Rothmans]

this is the part of the story where Rothman supports his argument with examples :thumb:

What?
oh

nvm

Mike Patton, Mikeal Alderkeft, Jarboe.

[Kurrpt]

this is where yu list examples to support your currently UNFOUNDED claim that maynard is over rated.....to spell it out for ya

[Kurrpt]

What?
oh

nvm

Mike Patton, Mikeal Alderkeft, Jarboe.


i should have said what bands, cause im not familiar with those names sorry

[Rothmans]

this is where yu list examples to support your currently UNFOUNDED claim that maynard is over rated.....to spell it out for ya

Up there^^

[Jovian]

I am actually starting to get annoyed about people saying how great maynard is, he isnt actually that good all he has is a great sounding voice he doesnt have much range or anything. The most amazing thing he has done is the scream in the Grudge and if some people tried hard enough they could do it.

All in all Maynard has a unique good sounding voice barely any range and he practically uss the same tone all the time.

:rolleyes:

Could you please cite some examples of singers who are better and have more range?

[Kurrpt]

those are band names, or the singer's name, or both



/never heard of them

[Rothmans]

i should have said what bands, cause im not familiar with those names sorry


Alright Mike patton=Faith No More, Fantomas, Mr. Bungle, Solo prject among many others.

Mikeal Alderkeft=Opeth and done a stint with a band called bloodbath (I think thats there name)

Jarboe=Swans, Herself and a few others.

[Rothmans]

:rolleyes:

Could you please cite some examples of singers who are better and have more range?

I already did jackass

[Jovian]

I already did jackass

Mike Patton, yes.

But the others... not hardly... Jackass :)

[Kurrpt]

the only band i have heard of is faith no more and i heard of opeth, but not enuff to actually argue one way or the other

[Rothmans]

Mike Patton, yes.

But the others... not hardly. :)

Do you know who they all are?

[Darkness]

What the hell? You've never heard of Mike Patton or Mikeal Akerfeldt?

[Darkness]

and done a stint with a band called bloodbath (I think thats there name)

Why not? It shows how powerfull his growls can acutually be.

[Jovian]

Do you know who they all are?

Yes. Why wouldn't I? I have every Faith No More album and Mr. Bungle album... released on a major label.

I don't have any Opeth or Swans albums, but I've heard their songs and the singers can't touch Maynard. Sorry.

[Rothmans]

What the hell? You've never heard of Mike Patton or Mikeal Akerfeldt?

Are you talking to me?

[Kurrpt]

no, no i havent


can someone upload an OPETH Cd so i can have a listen

[Rothmans]

Yes. Why wouldn't I? I have every Faith No More album and Mr. Bungle album... released on a major label.

I don't have any Opeth or Swans albums, but I've heard their songs and the singers can't touch Maynard. Sorry.

out of curiosity what swans songs have you heard and was it a guy or a girl singing and were they any good?

[Rothmans]

no, no i havent


can someone upload an OPETH Cd so i can have a listen

You got AIM?

[Darkness]

I'll upload him something now.

Edit: I'm uploading the Drapery Falls and Windowpane. Is that good enough?

[Kurrpt]

i dont understand why rothman is being a harsh prick

[Kurrpt]

You got AIM?


i do have an account, but i cant access it at work....sorry

[Jovian]

out of curiosity what swans songs have you heard and was it a guy or a girl singing and were they any good?

What the hell is this... a formal interrogation?

[Rothmans]

i dont understand why rothman is being a harsh prick

Sorry I dont mean to come off like that

and whats your AIM ill give ye all there albums if ye like them.

[Rothmans]

What the hell is this... a formal interrogation?


No I was actually just asking I didnt mean it to come off like that sorry I was just curious cuz sometimes people mix up jarboe.

[Darkness]

http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=18LO8Q531HV1517PEZUHN6GF50 Windowpane, from Damnation.

http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1SXL46PAJI1SY3I1KFTXK5R9TD The Drapery Falls, from Blackwater Park.

Should give you a good idea of what Mikeal can do.

[Kurrpt]

aw man, i was kinda hoping u could YOUSENDIT or mega upload or something.

I have a t1 at work, its just that the server blocks me from a lot of stuff, like aim

[Darkness]

I did use yousendit...

[Rothmans]

I did use yousendit...

He was talking to me I think.

[Darkness]

Oh sorry...

[clearvision]

Mikaels growls and clean vocals are great, for the opeth style of music. They seem to resonate medievil images, the music seems rustic to me.

Tool's music is completeley different and i think Mikael would sound out of place...

Patton, apart from bieng a bit of a music whore, likes to really mess with his voice. Some of his stuff i like, others i do not. His DEP stuff and FNM stuff were great, but i can't tolerate mr bungle or fantomas for too long as his voice grates on me. I need t cehck out California form mr bungle as i only have s/t, i think california is supposed to be better.

[Jovian]

but i can't tolerate mr bungle or fantomas for too long as his voice grates on me. I need t cehck out California form mr bungle as i only have s/t, i think california is supposed to be better.

:D

Check out Disco Volante.

[Rothmans]

Mikaels growls and clean vocals are great, for the opeth style of music. They seem to resonate medievil images, the music seems rustic to me.

Tool's music is completeley different and i think Mikael would sound out of place...

Patton, apart from bieng a bit of a music whore, likes to really mess with his voice. Some of his stuff i like, others i do not. His DEP stuff and FNM stuff were great, but i can't tolerate mr bungle or fantomas for too long as his voice grates on me. I need t cehck out California form mr bungle as i only have s/t, i think california is supposed to be better.

It is I have it I can give it to ye now if you have AIM?

[Darkness]

Mikaels growls and clean vocals are great, for the opeth style of music. They seem to resonate medievil images, the music seems rustic to me.

Tool's music is completeley different and i think Mikael would sound out of place...

Patton, apart from bieng a bit of a music whore, likes to really mess with his voice. Some of his stuff i like, others i do not. His DEP stuff and FNM stuff were great, but i can't tolerate mr bungle or fantomas for too long as his voice grates on me. I need t cehck out California form mr bungle as i only have s/t, i think california is supposed to be better.
I just noticed that was you man... new display pic?

[Darkness]

Are you talking to me?
No the dude who said he didn't know who they were... sorry you guys reply really fast.

[clearvision]

Yeah, i sensed my trip-hop obsession kinda died out and i still had the same avatar, it also needed changing as it was all distroted.

Thanks for the offer rothmans, but i can get higher speeds out of torrents.slsk...AIM is always really sucky towards me.

[Rothmans]

Yeah, i sensed my trip-hop obsession kinda died out and i still had the same avatar, it also needed changing as it was all distroted.

Thanks for the offer rothmans, but i can get higher speeds out of torrents.slsk...AIM is always really sucky towards me.


Well alright then the offer still stands though.

[Doomed To Crumble]

im self taught also :) what type of heads do you have ? any extra info will help me ;)

i have an evans g2 skin on my snare

[Darkness]

What was that thing Danny did to one of his drums in Schism so it acutually hit a note or something...?

[Futuro]

i have an evans g2 skin on my snare
Nice choice going with evans :) with dannys snare sound he tries to tune it like you would a tom (being the top head is transient attack, and the bottom would be the actual tone or sound coming through) normal snare sounds dont rely on the bottom head to much because the snares will be touching them any way which will take something away from the sound.

i do recommend you having a nice reso head, something like a hazy 300 (my fav.) :) as you are tuning this snare make sure your snares are off and heads are all loose before you begin. now tighten all of the lugs finger tight for both heads it should still sound dead now take your key and going in a star like pattern turn each lug 1/2 turn on each head. this should tighten it up quite a bit, now keeping in mind that you are trying to not recieve a snare drum sound(we are going for tom like) so going from that alone, all the adjustments made from now on should me minute, im talking like 1/8th turns around the drum (still in star pattern) after tightening the batter head a little i reccomend going to the reso and tuning that up (still desiring tom like fundamentals), just so as you are tuning the batter you dont only hear the transient attack but some verb and tone :thumb:

to go further into the tom like tone, im not saying we want it to ring forever it still should be fast sounding,its kind of hard to explain the exact sound but instead of a "DEE" we are looking for a "DO", we dont want the snare to be a little yip more of a bark, :)

once you recieve that sound from your snare (i cant go into detail how because i would need alot more info on your snare, but the above guide i wrote should help alot) the only thing left to do is set the tension of the snare chains. most of Dannys stuff now a days is very rhythmic tom like patterns so he turn the snares off half the time any way :p but you are looking for you snares to compensate for how loose your drum is now so basically your snares should be fairly lose against the reso head (with this tuning you will recieve a lot of sympathy buzz ,so take note of that you might half to tune some of your toms a little lower, and some higher to help the problem, but the buzz from other toms is expected)

since you have a G2 batter head there is extra weight all around the head, that will definetly help you with achieving a BIGGER sound (notice i said bigger not louder or lower.....well actually if you followed the steps above your snare will be pretty low pitch any way :p )

Hope this helps you :wave:

[clearvision]

Yooo paragraphs dude!

You may want to re-upload your avatar, as it has been distorted by the data base corruption

[Futuro]

Yooo paragraphs dude!

You may want to re-upload your avatar, as it has been distorted by the data base corruption

ill get around too the avatar, sorry for the non paragraph thing ill fix it :)

should be easier on the eyes now :thumb:

[Doomed To Crumble]

ya thanks alot man

[Doomed To Crumble]

all of my tom skins are evan hydraulics, what do you think about that faith?

[Mr Herb]

I have question. since salival is almost imposbile to find and since ive been told it wasnt realease everywere theh will the next dvd be reasles world wide? puerto rico to?

[Futuro]

all of my tom skins are evan hydraulics, what do you think about that faith?

oil + head = bad news
they are very dead heads. they make more of a thud and dont ring, or resonate at all.

i would suggest nothing thicker than a normal head...and by normal head i mean nothing thicker than a G2 or an Emp and definetly should have nice resos like a G1 or Amb that way you can eliminate some unwanted overtones stock resos give you :thumb:

[clearvision]

Should be, If not you can order off amazon, im sure they ship everywhere.

[Rothmans]

Hey everyone look:

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8341520#post8341520

A lot of people say these are like tool so hope you will like cmon lads please.

[Doomed To Crumble]

i have the salival tracks if anybody wants them, i think theres a way i can send them to you

[Pyrophilliac]

Necrophelia exists mainly in the south where people can steal corpses go out in the woods and have an orgy.


you , my friend are a ****ing dumbass..... :rolleyes:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Adam is the weakest link as far as technical skill on his instrument....sorry but true his skills are no where near as evolved as maynards voice, justins bass abilities, and NO WHERE NEAR danny on drums.....and the tremelo/speed picking you speak of is nothing...(listen to dream theater and children of bodom if u want to see TRUE skill on the guitar) however adam jones doesn't play the normal role in tool that guitarists generally play in bands, he accents the rest of the music... it works out great. he is very good at what he does which is writing artsy riffs etc.
he's not about raw skill but about what works best for their music.

and as far as the comment on them being satanists...they are all against ALL organized religion...including satanism (which is just as bad as any of the others(no offense but true)
You can't have a group full of virtuosos. That would just be bland. :p (*cough*Dream Theater *cough*)

So Moses, are you gonna record anything for us soon?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I have question. since salival is almost imposbile to find and since ive been told it wasnt realease everywere theh will the next dvd be reasles world wide? puerto rico to?

I'm sure you'll be able to find it on Amazon or something. While you're at it, you may want to pick up a book on grammar. :p

For any of you guys looking to find more bands similair to Tool: Check out Porcupine Tree's new album. It's awesome. :D

[clearvision]

Is the new one worth it...

I can really no sit down and listen to any PT album start to finish...i always get sleepy halfway through...

I have signify and In absentia...

They are both great, but they blend and then i start to drift off...

[Rothmans]

I'm sure you'll be able to find it on Amazon or something. While you're at it, you may want to pick up a book on grammar. :p

For any of you guys looking to find more bands similair to Tool: Check out Porcupine Tree's new album. It's awesome. :D


Check out Neurosis aswell I made a good thread so cmon guys.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8342399#post8342399

[Knifeboy]

Is the new one worth it...

I can really no sit down and listen to any PT album start to finish...i always get sleepy halfway through...

I have signify and In absentia...

They are both great, but they blend and then i start to drift off...

I would think Deadwing is easier to stay awake to... Also lightbulb sun is very varied

[Doomed To Crumble]

Noooo Just Listen To Tool

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Is the new one worth it...

I can really no sit down and listen to any PT album start to finish...i always get sleepy halfway through...

I have signify and In absentia...

They are both great, but they blend and then i start to drift off...

So far, Deadwing is definitely worth my 12 bucks. :D It's a lot more agressive than In Absentia is. More distortion, faster songs, plus Gavin Harrison busts out some double bass. Steve actually shreds quite a bit on this album. Like...shred shred. Check out Halo for a short little virtuistic clip. :D The bottom end work is also quite original. As always, the keys create a deep atmosphere.

Don't listen to me though, I always tend to overrate albums on the first listen :-/

Rothface- I am checking em out right now.

[Rothmans]

Noooo Just Listen To Tool

There is nothing wrong with variation.

[Dude3]

I've been really liking Neurosis. What album of theirs do you suggest I get? I'm thinking either "Souls at Zero", or "Through Silver in Blood".

I will be leaving for Judas Priest in less than an hour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rothmans]

I've been really liking Neurosis. What album of theirs do you suggest I get? I'm thinking either "Souls at Zero", or "Through Silver in Blood".

I will be leaving for Judas Priest in less than an hour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Check the thread out and consider

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8342399#post8342399

[Moses]

You can't have a group full of virtuosos. That would just be bland. :p (*cough*Dream Theater *cough*)

So Moses, are you gonna record anything for us soon?
Ugh, my family won't get outta the house. Maybe tommorow. But when I have time I'll do my best to give you a quality recording, unlike my preview for Part of Me which was done on the other side of a tunnell with a noseplug. :p

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Rothmans-Ok, enough whoring.

Moses- Are you going to record Stinkfist first? or what..

[Moses]

Rothmans-Ok, enough whoring.

Moses- Are you going to record Stinkfist first? or what..
Either that or 46&2.

Which ever one I'm feeling at the time.

[Rothmans]

Rothmans-Ok, enough whoring.

Moses- Are you going to record Stinkfist first? or what..

IM sorry its just that I need these to be known I am sorry I will try and stop now.

[Futuro]

oh yeaaa!! home run for the turtles :)

[Moses]

oh yeaaa!! home run for the turtles :)
What songs are you doing drum tracks for? And if you're doing Stinkfist then you should do that next.

[Mr Herb]

i have the salival tracks if anybody wants them, i think theres a way i can send them to you
erm lets try it out dude

[Futuro]

matter already has a stinkfist recorded i thought

[Dude3]

See ya guys. I'm going to leave for Judas Priest now. I might do a review of the concert tomorrow.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

matter already has a stinkfist recorded i thought

Nope. That's for you to do. :D

Moses- Ok, either one would be great. You should probably finish 46&2 just so we have something done. :-/ Things should start picking up for Stinkfist. Iv'e spoken with Teh JoZ0rz and he said he would redo Stinkfist, and Marshall will hopefully have the drummies up sometime soon. (I hope, at least. :p)

[Futuro]

so am i playing to your track jake (which by the way was very good :) )

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yes/Thanks. :)

Did you hear all the troubles I had recording that track? :p

First, I learned it, then, that day I recorded it good, but I used too much flange. Then I tried recording again, but I got interrupted by my mom. Tried again, got interrupted by my dad. Then, the next day I recorded it almost flawlessly, but I forgot to save it. (lol) I was wicked pissed by that point, so I decided, w/e I'm just gonna record this one more time, and if it's not good, I give up.

Luckily, I got it well enough. :p There is one section that is a bit muddy due to the flange, but it should be fine once there are drums/bass/vox.

[Futuro]

ill jam to it today ...im thinking about doing a multi track with a djembe...would that be cool??

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

A...djembe?? What the hell is a djembe?

Oh, and also, do you have any ideas for the electronic drum intro? I beleive that Ben has been working with Fruity Loops trying to figure something out. I also toyed with it for about 5 minutes 2 nights ago, but I gave up, due to my lack of skill in the area of Fruity Loops. :p

[Futuro]

african percussion instrument

i had an idea to day also....im gonna take roto toms and tune them to D,A,D and play all the open chords adam plays on drums :p ..(not for the recording ...just for fun) :)

[Doomed To Crumble]

me and my friend did 46&2 and its not that bad but i dont no how to record

[Futuro]

me and my friend did 46&2 and its not that bad but i dont no how to recordcan you play the solo? :confused:

[Doomed To Crumble]

i can play it but its not nearly as tightly played as dannys

[Futuro]

that is still very impressive for 2 years. you should do the next drum off.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

How long have you been playing teh drummieZ Marshall?

I've played geetar for a year.

[Futuro]

close to four so ill say that..... i have been playing guitar longer than you but am no where as good :upset:

[Knifeboy]

african percussion instrument

i had an idea to day also....im gonna take roto toms and tune them to D,A,D and play all the open chords adam plays on drums :p ..(not for the recording ...just for fun) :)


Record it! I'd love to hear how that sounds

[Moses]

Yes/Thanks. :)

Did you hear all the troubles I had recording that track? :p

First, I learned it, then, that day I recorded it good, but I used too much flange. Then I tried recording again, but I got interrupted by my mom. Tried again, got interrupted by my dad. Then, the next day I recorded it almost flawlessly, but I forgot to save it. (lol) I was wicked pissed by that point, so I decided, w/e I'm just gonna record this one more time, and if it's not good, I give up.

Luckily, I got it well enough. :p There is one section that is a bit muddy due to the flange, but it should be fine once there are drums/bass/vox.
So you did it in one take?

[Futuro]

Record it! I'd love to hear how that sounds
i might sometime ill have to figure out the placing of hats and roto's in between first :thumb:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

No, it took me 4 or 5 tries, but I only had one take that I actually ****ed up on.

[Doomed To Crumble]

ya the only trouble that i have with the solo is mainly dannys climax at the end

[Huber]

that is still very impressive for 2 years. you should do the next drum off.

Definetly

[magicaltrollII]

Whats so hard about that solo... :confused:

/not a drummer

[Huber]

Whats so hard about that solo... :confused:

/not a drummer

The hardest thing about playing almost anything Tool on drums (especially the solos) is learning how to count the entire song, because of the odd signatures. I've never tried that one, so I wouldn't know how to count it. I could make a good guess that it's harder to count the solo then the song because it changed from the rest of the song (except the build-up of course).

Not only the counting and not losing place, but the technicality of the playing is also a factor, but that is a little easier to do with practice. Where as something like timing and counting correctly in odd signatures is something you have to learn independantly. Just trying to play a song where it is required without previous practice with it will almost always result in failure.

[Futuro]

Whats so hard about that solo... :confused:

/not a drummer

nothing really hard, but for 2 years its very impressive, also pulling it off perfectly is a deal in its own, cause i believe its time signature fluxuation is 7,7,7,8,7,7,7,8 getting that down in itself can be tricky....matter can emulate it the best i have heard....its actually perfect i think. :)

[Doomed To Crumble]

yes becasue with the solo there is no way you can find your place by listening to the guitar, its all done off of the timming in your head

[Huber]

yes becasue with the solo there is no way you find your place by listening to the guitar, its all done off pf the timming in your head

no matter how bad the grammar, he said it better than me in one sentance...

/loses

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Isn't the solo in a polyrythmic time signature? That's what I thought it was on first listen...

Also, keeping time is a big factor in all of Tool's songs that are in wierd time sigs. The Grudge is the hardest that I've stumbled upon. It's in 5/8 time, and that makes the verse very hard to play. (The palmuted open D section) Overall, that is a tough song for any of the members. As far as toughness across the board, I'm sure The Grudge takes the cake. Sure, Ticks & Leeches is a godly song as far as the drumming goes, but the bass and guitar parts aren't hard at all.

EDIT: so it's a 29/8 to 7/8 polyrythm?!?!

Sliptallica- :lol:

What kind of recording capabilities do you have? I would be all over the geetar for that track. I've got a recording of the 1st segment. I'll link you if you wanna hear. :thumb:


Right click, save target as (http://www.soundclick.com/util/downloadSong.cfm?ID=2502156)

There's the mp3 of me playing Ticks on guitar.

[Huber]

Isn't the solo in a polyrythmic time signature? That's what I thought it was on first listen...

Also, keeping time is a big factor in all of Tool's songs that are in wierd time sigs. The Grudge is the hardest that I've stumbled upon. It's in 5/8 time, and that makes the verse very hard to play. (The palmuted open D section) Overall, that is a tough song for any of the members. As far as toughness across the board, I'm sure The Grudge takes the cake. Sure, Ticks & Leeches is a godly song as far as the drumming goes, but the bass and guitar parts aren't hard at all.

After you learn Ticks and Leeches you're like, "Man, that wasn't that hard, but I'm really sweaty."

It just takes some stamina, or I'm very out of shape.

Edit:

I have a single microphone, so not the best. I could always give it a shot.

I wonder how long we could keep talking without bumping the thread...

Edit2: So much for that

[Doomed To Crumble]

Yes I would agree that the grudge is the hardest tool song to play on the drums.

[Doomed To Crumble]

o ya and i feel that getting the hi hat right at some parts of tick and leeches is also very challenging along with the intro.

[Huber]

o ya and i feel that getting the hi hat right at some parts of tick and leeches is also very challenging along with the intro.

Yeah, that just takes some practice.

The hardest part for me is the post interlude section (I improvise it every time) and the second verse. The accents throw me off sometimes.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Meh, I'm not too worried about quality. I think that it would turn out very well though. That song is so fun to play. :D I beleive I said this once before in here, but one night before I went to bed, I played Ticks& Leeches and Lateralus in one set. It was amazing. :amaze: It was one of the most uplifting experience I've ever had.

[Doomed To Crumble]

and third eye to omg how does danny remember it all

[Huber]

Yeah, I remember the first time I nailed (mostly) Ticks and Leeches. I was doing the double bass at the end before the last fill, and my sister's boyfriend jumps in and I didn't notice him but at the end he goes, "HOOOOLY **** THAT WAS BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!"

Bad in a good way. He listens to rap so it was kinda funny for me.

[Doomed To Crumble]

can anybody here play the third eye intro on drums well?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think I might learn Third Eye. That song is awesome. It seems like most Tool fans I talk to are discouraged by the length of the song. Sure, it may have a total running time of 13:47, but in reality, when you take out the ambience and the Bill Hicks/Tim Leary spiel at the beggining, it's really not much longer than Lateralus. :D

EDIT: It's still a freaking beast of a track.

[Doomed To Crumble]

People who arent for its length can just shut up because i feel that its perfectly timed and it gets the point across to the listeners. I still geet a rush every time i listen to it.

[Mr Herb]

Third eye. Thatd be the **** playing that.

I was listening to lataralus and I came up with a riff some what simialr to the laterlaus chrous for teh bass. grt!

Now onto my point: Dudes at schools say bassist who play with pikcs instead of their fingers are mediocre and I constanly argue with them about those that.

What are yalls opions on? Is picking pathetic or something?

WE all know picking aint really bad. . .look at Justin and the Squire dude. :)

[Kadnar24]

I just joined this forum, and this is an awesome thread man. I'd just like to say I love tool, I am hopefully going to work on a lot of their songs, I know schism so far on drums, great song, really gave me some wonderful concepts to move around the drums such as the triplets on the hi hat in the verses and intro. I love it. I hope to learn the patient, and/or lateralus by the end of summer, and clean up schism a little too.

Great thread :).

[Kadnar24]

Yes I would agree that the grudge is the hardest tool song to play on the drums.

Wow, I am glad their are a lot of drummers here, awesome stuff. I agree with you on this one. Some of the tom/bass drum work he does is phenomenal, its unbelievable.

[Doomed To Crumble]

im still trying to figure out what hes doing for the intro of third eye, when i look at it on video it looks like hes doing triplets on the toms but im still not sure

[Mr Herb]

answer ma question ppl! :upset:

[Doomed To Crumble]

um i think that picks are ****ing sick with a bass, and if you feel taht using one will help you better express yourself through music then ****ing do it man.

[Futuro]

can anybody here play the third eye intro on drums well?
:wave:

[Doomed To Crumble]

please tell me how its done
try to be specific

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I didn't even know Justin Played with a pick until YDload told me that he did. :shrug: It seems that bassists that play with picks play slower, more melodic basslines. This suits Tool's style well, though.

[Doomed To Crumble]

i have a good video of him playing so i should be able to play it but im a dubass so i cant

[Doomed To Crumble]

i have a good video of him playing so i should be able to play it but im a dubass so i cant

im talking about the third eye intro

[Futuro]

im talking about the third eye intro

you should be able to play it efficeintly enough

[Mr Herb]

Am trying to buya pick but belive it or not I havnt found a decent bass pick here in pr.

Jake dud i agree, picks bassist must be more artsty. . . althou I must say the average pop rock bassist uses picks.

[Kadnar24]

you should be able to play it efficeintly enough

Yeah, if you could explain the feel on the toms, that'd be helpful to me too.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Just get a blank cd and break into into peices. It's the right width, and if you break the entire cd, you should get a shape close enough to what you need.

It's what I do when I run out of picks. :D

[Huber]

I'm going to invest myself in a bass soon. Any tips for a cheap affordable bass(that's still good quality of course)?

To make this post even more pointless, may I present to you the worst thread ever made:

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8347881#post8347881

[Doomed To Crumble]

still need to no how to do third eye intro

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Sliptallica, do you have an amp and everything already? If not, I would like to point you in the direction of the Ibanez Jumpstart package. They come with good enough pickups, a decent practice amp (I actually use mine to record) and a cool DVD as well. :P

[Huber]

Sliptallica, do you have an amp and everything already? If not, I would like to point you in the direction of the Ibanez Jumpstart package. They come with good enough pickups, a decent practice amp (I actually use mine to record) and a cool DVD as well. :P

No I don't have an amp. Sounds cool, thanks.

[Mr Herb]

I'm going to invest myself in a bass soon. Any tips for a cheap affordable bass(that's still good quality of course)?

To make this post even more pointless, may I present to you the worst thread ever made:

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8347881#post8347881



Am a bassist dude, get a fernandez starters package. ITs a great abss at a lower price than an ibanez and it brings a cd/dvd, nice amp, picks extra cords even a vhs! and heck tons of stuff more . Plus they look cool :thumb: I have one

[Mr Herb]

no ones responds to my posts most of the time, guess I talk a lot of ****.:)

*Bumps*

[Moses]

no ones responds to my posts most of the time, guess I talk a lot of ****.:)

*Bumps*
Hopefully you stole my curse.

[BlindWriting]

no ones responds to my posts most of the time, guess I talk a lot of ****.:)

*Bumps*
Hey, don't feel bad. I've had nothing really interesting to say for weeks.

[Darkness]

^ hehe same. :)

That little drum talk a page or 2 back was interesting though. Thanks guys. I like learning about instruments I don't play for some reason...

[Futuro]

3rd eye beggining (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14831&stc=1)

this should do ya :) sorry it took me till today .....last night mom came in computer room and totally took over so i couldnt give it to ya last night :p

[Moses]

bump/

[Darkness]

So... you guys like Tool?

/weak ettempt at starting conversation

[clearvision]

Nah they suck

...o shi'

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

So... you guys like Tool?

/weak ettempt at starting conversation


I'd say... :lol:

To be honest, I feel left out because I haven't contributed any Tool parts.

[Darkness]

I do to...

[Moses]

My myspace page if anyone cares.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=9321795&Mytoken=20050623113140

[Darkness]

We don't.


hehe..

Acutually I'll look.

[Blizzink]

Milwaukee? I live about 45 minutes away in Random Lake.

[Moses]

Darkness, you are really bogus to me, did you know that? I mean when I had that "curse" and everything.......... it's all good though. :thumb:

Yeah, Brew-city. Straight out the ghetto.

[Futuro]

i finally got welcome to sky valley today from kyuss...good CD, was impressed actually...Lick My Doo is the best song ever :)

im gonna attempt to record stinkfist once jakes track fully downoads again (cant find original....forgot what i named it)

[Darkness]

Darkness, you are really bogus to me, did you know that? I mean when I had that "curse" and everything.......... it's all good though. :thumb:
:lol: I give everyone a hard time. Its not just you.

Your my buddy. :p

Oh and when I looked at your myspace thing, I noticed were the same age and are graduating the same year.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

It seems like there's a crapload of 16 year old Toolophiles in this thread. I think all four of us are 16, if I'm thinking correctly. (Am I?)

[Kage]

I'm 16 as well.

[Phobophile]

Oh good lord,ya youngins

/is 18

The only reason I don't post in this thread more often is because it seems as you guys are always talking about doing cover songs or something so I feel left out and there is no reason for me to post.

[Blizzink]

I also am sixteen. Hopefully no one comes in and makes a comment about the average age, as most of us here are in some way intelligent.

[Mr Herb]

I am 16 too. Thats good, if we went to some ****ty bands site, say linkin park wed find 12 year olds!

[Kage]

Oh good lord,ya youngins

/is 18

The only reason I don't post in this thread more often is because it seems as you guys are always talking about doing cover songs or something so I feel left out and there is no reason for me to post.

Ever since I dropped out of the cover project, I feel the same way.

[Kage]

I also am sixteen. Hopefully no one comes in and makes a comment about the average age, as most of us here are in some way intelligent.
You could say we're not the average sophomoric bunch.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Are you really, Kage? I thought you were a lot older. :-/

"Your maturity preceeds you."

Marshall, aren't you 16? I saw that on your toolshed prof, I think.

Kage again- :lol: at the pun. Was it intended?

[Phobophile]

Well,I would love to do bass for this internet cover project but I have no idea how its done.

[Futuro]

no im 54 :) Im also a pedofile :)

[Mr Herb]

then I want your email faith.

[Mr Herb]

see what I mean. AnwYAys ive always wondered if every single weird noise on triad is made by Adam or is some one else helping along?

weird noise-effects etc

[Mr Herb]

My myspace page if anyone cares.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=9321795&Mytoken=20050623113140 are you gay? lol

[Kage]

Are you really, Kage? I thought you were a lot older. :-/

"Your maturity preceeds you."

Marshall, aren't you 16? I saw that on your toolshed prof, I think.

Kage again- :lol: at the pun. Was it intended?
Everytime I tell people my age, it seems they were under the impression that I was a lot older. Even in real life. It can actually be pretty useful.

And, yes, very much intended.

[clearvision]

I'm 16, though not for long.. :)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Herb- Don't triple post. Moses has a girlfriend, therefore, he is not gay. And as for Triad, "Static," a member of a fairly well known industrial band that I can't remember at the moment, helped with the wierd samples. Oh, and noone responds to most of the time because usually, there's not much to say.

"Then I want your email faith"

How can you elaborate on that?

Kage, same thing happens to me. I have an unusually deep voice, so people always think I'm older than I really am. :shrug:

Moses- You know how sometimes when you put a face to someone that you know on the internet, you think of them somewhat differently? Well, I figured you looked something along those lines. Wierd, I know. :shrugagain:

[Rothmans]

Meh im 15 but people say I look 17 and I have been a bit intact in the tool world whats happening on F.A.R.M?

If anyone knows what I am talking about?

[Doomed To Crumble]

3rd eye beggining (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14831&stc=1)

this should do ya :) sorry it took me till today .....last night mom came in computer room and totally took over so i couldnt give it to ya last night :p

thanks alot man

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Meh im 15 but people say I look 17 and I have been a bit intact in the tool world whats happening on F.A.R.M?

If anyone knows what I am talking about?

You've probably seen this, but this is the only thing everyone's been talking about on the F.A.R.M. (http://www.teleincision.com)

For those of you who don't know, The FARM is a section on toolshed.down.net's forum abbreviated for something along the lines of Future Album Rumor Mill.

[Rothmans]

You've probably seen this, but this is the only thing everyone's been talking about on the F.A.R.M. (http://www.teleincision.com)

For those of you who don't know, The FARM is a section on toolshed.down.net's forum abbreviated for something along the lines of Future Album Rumor Mill.

Ah suprise there is probablly a thousand people looking for a secret link somewhere on there.


And yes I have seen this before but forgot all about it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

When I was on there a couple days ago, I linked this guy to http://www.teleincision.com/music . I did it as a total joke, then he posted back and was like 'omfg! It says it's forbidden, does that mean that there is something there, but we need a password for it!?!?!' He was totally freaking out. :lol:

[Kage]

Day 4 of lost Lateralus CD. Yearning is starting to kick in.

[Rothmans]

:lol:

I can barely read tdn's forum one because it gets me really really excited about there next album and too many dickhead's.

[Doomed To Crumble]

i got the ipod, endless supply of tool:)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Seriously! Me and Faith joined on the same day, and he private messaged me and said something about this guy Orph9988, and how he was a real dick to Faith. The next thread that I looked at, that guy, Orph was flaming my post. He was making fun of my badass ninja turtles avatar!! Anyways, there are some pretty major dicks there, but you gotta take the bad with the good, and Tool is the obvious good there. :p

Marshall- Do you still post there? I haven't been in a few days. :-/

[Rothmans]

Seriously! Me and Faith joined on the same day, and he private messaged me and said something about this guy Orph9988, and how he was a real dick to Faith. The next thread that I looked at, that guy, Orph was flaming my post. He was making fun of my badass ninja turtles avatar!! Anyways, there are some pretty major dicks there, but you gotta take the bad with the good, and Tool is the obvious good there. :p

Marshall- Do you still post there? I haven't been in a few days. :-/

I just fish around I wouldnt like to join up to strange a place some stuff is just to annoying too many fanboys.

[Mr Herb]

Is got a question. At the tool shed thingy, are there live mp3 or something for downloading?

[Darkness]

Day 4 of lost Lateralus CD. Yearning is starting to kick in.
Pfft... try 2 months.

And I thought you were older to. Like a lot older... maybe 20.

How old you guys think AJiG is? (can't remember his real name..)

[BrokenMachine]

Tool is one of the best "artsy" bands out there...definitly one of the best metal bands.

[Darkness]

^Correct.

[Lateralias]

Incorrect... partially... Tool aren't a metal band. They have some metal moments here and there (Undertow gets pretty heavy), but please don't classify them as a metal band.

Yeah all the regulars at Toolnavy (Toolshed forums) don't post that much anymore.. tis' sad

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ben is somewhere between 19 or 21. I know he's older than me.

Broken Machine- Erm..Tool does not equal metal.

Lateralias- What's your name on tdn? Is it the same?

[Darkness]

For some reason, I think of Tool as metal... Maybe its Adam's metallic tone?

Their prog metal in my eyes... and always will be. Specially since the new cd is suppost to be heavier/more progressive songs.

[Moses]

are you gay? lol
Are you asking because you want me or do I come off that way? :confused:


Anyway if you read my info you'd know I have a girlfriend. :thumb:

[Lateralias]

Yeah it's Lateralias but I've only posted a few times.. I always seem to lurk in the discussion section hehe. I'm not a big poster on any forums really.. as you can see by my join date and post count obviously.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

More progressive songs have nothing to do with them being metal. :p

They're probably the definition of 'fringe metal.' I'd say they lean closer to the side of rock, just because of the lathered soundscape that is created in each of their songs, even some of their heavier tunes. Lateralus is a good example of this. Sure, the chorus is pretty heavy, but the rest of the song is very mellow and atmospheric. Actually, I wouldn't say it's 'mellow.' I think soft tension is what I'm looking for.

[Moses]

More progressive songs have nothing to do with them being metal. :p

They're probably the definition of 'fringe metal.' I'd say they lean closer to the side of rock, just because of the lathered soundscape that is created in each of their songs, even some of their heavier tunes. Lateralus is a good example of this. Sure, the chorus is pretty heavy, but the rest of the song is very mellow and atmospheric. Actually, I wouldn't say it's 'mellow.' I think soft tension is what I'm looking for.
Overall they sound like rock to me, yet the proggier stuff doesn't. Stuff like Lateralus is rock, but Third Eye, I think is metal. Triad is metal to me too.

[Lateralias]

More progressive songs have nothing to do with them being metal. :p

They're probably the definition of 'fringe metal.' I'd say they lean closer to the side of rock, just because of the lathered soundscape that is created in each of their songs, even some of their heavier tunes. Lateralus is a good example of this. Sure, the chorus is pretty heavy, but the rest of the song is very mellow and atmospheric. Actually, I wouldn't say it's 'mellow.' I think soft tension is what I'm looking for.

Tool shouldn't be given one genre.. the band tends to forget boundaries and create songs like oh say "Disposition" then they have a heavy "Hooker With a youknowwhat" and then a progressive "Third Eye". It's hard to label Tool... well for me it is.

[Mr Herb]

Are you asking because you want me or do I come off that way? :confused:


Anyway if you read my info you'd know I have a girlfriend. :thumb:


Actually cause I miss read something posted on you my space blog. Youre not gay. kool. :)

[Darkness]

Opiate and Undertow are definatly rock. Ænima, is probably rock to though they start to come close to metal. Lateralus in my opinion is metal. Sure it has a lot of soft parts, but its got some extremly heavy parts, like the heavy part (most of) the Patient, some of the Grudge, Ticks is probably metal but the heaviness is mainly from the vocals, the riffs aren't really heavy. Most of the heavy parts in Lateralus are metalish but it has lots of soft stuff.

I donno... their just metal to me.

[Moses]

Actually cause I miss read something posted on you my space blog. Youre not gay. kool. :)
Ha. :lol:

[Lateralias]

Opiate and Undertow are definatly rock. Ænima, is probably rock to though they start to come close to metal. Lateralus in my opinion is metal. Sure it has a lot of soft parts, but its got some extremly heavy parts, like the heavy part (most of) the Patient, some of the Grudge, Ticks is probably metal but the heaviness is mainly from the vocals, the riffs aren't really heavy. Most of the heavy parts in Lateralus are metalish but it has lots of soft stuff.

I donno... their just metal to me.

Lateralus seems the least "metalish" to me... it's more experimental and has a mellow vibe in most songs.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

The funny thing about what you're saying DoG is that Tool consider Opiate to be their only metal effort. :p They put their most thrashy stuff on Opiate, and so poeple thought that they were a metal band, but it turns out, they're much more. :cool:

I perceive Lateralus as their lightest album :-/

Lateralias- Good idea. I'm mainly going off what the actual members of Tool consider their selves. I read somewhere that Adam cringes when Tool is called metal. :p

[Mr Herb]

Tool is metal, prog metal.

[Moses]

The funny thing about what you're saying DoG is that Tool consider Opiate to be their only metal effort. :p They put their most thrashy stuff on Opiate, and so poeple thought that they were a metal band, but it turns out, they're much more. :cool:

I perceive Lateralus as their lightest album :-/

Lateralias- Good idea. I'm mainly going off what the actual members of Tool consider their selves. I read somewhere that Adam cringes when Tool is called metal. :p
I've always had the idea, not seeing much of the Undertow artwork that Lateralus was their darkest album. Kage agreed with me on this a while back.

[Doomed To Crumble]

Has anybody heard the new track that danny recorded with some other people called Ampersand?

[Darkness]

Opiate isn't that heavy. Aggressive yes, but I donno if its metal.

Heavy and classifying things under genre's is subjective. To each to his own.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Their darkest!?!? I think that their albums decrease in darkness as they have been released. Undertow is almost depressive, Ænima is just angry, and I think that Lateralus is very uplifting. Meh, to each their own. Why do you think Lateralus is their darkest album?