Tool

[clearvision]

I don't know, if it was just maynard and trent working together the project would be hit or miss imo. Trent creates very slow simple melodies with angsty lyrics which go hand in hand with his style of music. Wheras maynard goes for more adventurous melodies which work well with the tool/APC sounds....

Nice to hear your starting work again...

Why re-read AJIG? I am aware lolapalooza is a tour, but im not sure that they played together...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Why re-read AJIG? I am aware lolapalooza is a tour, but im not sure that they played together...

He was referring to an APC/NIN tour, not a NIN/Tool tour

[clearvision]

Oh yeah :(

/owned :upset:

//back to bed

[BlindWriting]

I saw an interview somewhere that said that Maynard and Billy were having too many conflicts, and that after Maynard went back to Tool after APC finished touring, APC might not continue...

I don't know the validity of it, however.
No, you'd be right. Maynard and Billy were having numerous conflicts over Thirteenth Step. Billy wanted a heavier record, different artwork, and The Outsider to be the second single. Maynard wanted softer, more experimental music, and Blue to be the second single. Jeordie White ended up being a buffer for the two of them, as he tried to help settle a lot of conflicts. In the end, they made a video for The Outsider, and Maynard's cover/booklet art won, and so Billy gave him the artwork credit in the linear notes. I still think Thirteenth Step is the best APC album.

However, I know that the band wants to make another record after Maynard finishes the album, and the subsequent massive tour that will hopefully follow. At the moment, Billy is working on a rumored solo project.

[Darkness]

Tom ended up with 33, Adam had 30. :( Adam got snipped from the competition.
Oh, but according to this they tied:

Poll B:
1. Tom Morrello - 27
2. John Petrucci - 52
3. Adam Jones - 27
4. Ritchie Blackmore - 15
5. Eric Clapton - 56
6. Chuck Berry - 7
7. Dave Murray - 24
8. Zakk Wylde - 29
9. Jerry Cantrell - 11
10. Carlos Santana - 32

[BlindWriting]

How do you know this?
I read about it online, and of course heard, on the live Vacant mp3, Maynard talking about the song being one of Tapeworm's. Then, when eMotive came around, the studio version of Vacant basically had a different intro and a few lyrics changed around, and retitled as Passive. Plus, I read one of Trent's Q&A's on nin.com, and he mentioned the song Vacant, and also mentioned it's new form as Passive.

[Idiot Martyr]

Nice argument JoZ, a real fanboy! hehhe :p

I don't think it'd be fair classing tool with metallica and stuff, so i would question the metal tag. I think they have to go in with someone, It'd be dream theater and opeth making them prog metal...But metal???

Thanks for the rumour :)

intelligent metal?

[The JoZ]

No, you'd be right. Maynard and Billy were having numerous conflicts over Thirteenth Step. Billy wanted a heavier record, different artwork, and The Outsider to be the second single. Maynard wanted softer, more experimental music, and Blue to be the second single. Jeordie White ended up being a buffer for the two of them, as he tried to help settle a lot of conflicts. In the end, they made a video for The Outsider, and Maynard's cover/booklet art won, and so Billy gave him the artwork credit in the linear notes. I still think Thirteenth Step is the best APC album.

Yeah, that I knew...what I meant about validity was...

However, I know that the band wants to make another record after Maynard finishes the album, and the subsequent massive tour that will hopefully follow. At the moment, Billy is working on a rumored solo project.

That. The thing I read said that the possibility of another APC album was slim, because of the conflict between Maynard and Billy. It was unclear if they would be able to work together again, at least long enough to create a new album, so...it's up in the air, last I knew, but again, I don't know for sure.

I read about it online, and of course heard, on the live Vacant mp3, Maynard talking about the song being one of Tapeworm's. Then, when eMotive came around, the studio version of Vacant basically had a different intro and a few lyrics changed around, and retitled as Passive. Plus, I read one of Trent's Q&A's on nin.com, and he mentioned the song Vacant, and also mentioned it's new form as Passive.

Well, there we go. Cool :cool:

intelligent metal?

Without trying to sound like an elitist genre nazi...in some respect, Progressive Metal can = "Intelligent Metal"

[Moses]

I finally found a song where Jones shreds!!

Check out Cold and Ugly live off of Opiate. Around 2:45 he shreds the crap out of the fretboard. Bonus.
Yes!! I heard that and I looked on the booklet to see if it was a different guitarist the first time I heard that.

[The JoZ]

Wow, I can't believe you guys are just finding out about that.

I've known about that forever :p

[Adam Jones is GOD]

This is a dark day for Tool guitarists. :(

I keep putting random shred parts in Tool songs. My favourite is the distortion kick in on Ticks And Leeches, after that long quiet section. He only strums the chords once. i shred the crap outta them. Makes up for not having the pounding drums taking the pace of the song through the roof.

[clearvision]

Dark day for tool guitarists, why?

Because most of MX pay too much attention to who plays the fastest and don't wanna stop to appreciated adam's genius? (Assumes you are talking about adam not making the next round of the guitarist comp)

[Adam Jones is GOD]

The fact a bassist knew a shred part over guitarists makes it dark.

And doint worry, im not a shred-aholic. I prefer slow burning playing.

(though I do love the occassional tremelo)

And I am bitter over Adam going out, mainly as Morello made it through. That shows that people vote bands, not guitarists in some instances.

[clearvision]

Hmm, I also like Morello alot, though you can be sure my vote went adams way. But to be honest, I think most people that voted wouldn't recognise jones, just as i didn't recognise many players there...

[Moses]

Firstly, if Reznor and Maynard did like, a serious made-to-be-released recording project, I think it might very well be some of the darkest music ever recorded, or at least damn close.
Maynard in APC isn't very dark at all. He's not really what makes Tool dark. If Reznor was in Tool, now that would be some dark music.

[Moses]

Wow, I can't believe you guys are just finding out about that.

I've known about that forever :p
I've known about it since the first time I listened to Opiate. I just replied because thats the first time somone said somthing about it.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Yeah, the topic was brought up a while ago and I mentioned Cold&Ugly.

Reznor and Maynard would be insane. I'd definitely say that Reznor has much more of an existential vibe though. He's darker than Maynard IMO.

Btw, do you guys like the "hit" NIN song? I'm not diggin it.

[clearvision]

Which one? The hand that feeds? Is great, as is the rest of the album :p especially right where i belong *drool*

[clearvision]

Hmm do you really rate reznor as a vocalist? I think although his lines are often straight from his heart and you can really feel the emotion, i think that he sometimes lacks the sweetness* of some better vocalists, such as maynard and thom yorke..

*worst adjective ever. I can't put across what i mean. But reznor is sometimes harsh and off key which is great for his style but not for his rep as a vocalist.

I keep meaning to get a faith no more album, but keep getting sidetracked, which would you reccomend?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Med, where do you mod?

[The JoZ]

Maynard in APC isn't very dark at all. He's not really what makes Tool dark. If Reznor was in Tool, now that would be some dark music.

To hell he's not! :p

Listen to Maynard on Lateralus...songs like The Grudge, The Patient, Schism, Lateralus and especially Reflection...very dark, etherial vocals.

[Matter]

Hmm do you really rate reznor as a vocalist? I think although his lines are often straight from his heart and you can really feel the emotion, i think that he sometimes lacks the sweetness* of some better vocalists, such as maynard and thom yorke..

*worst adjective ever. I can't put across what i mean. But reznor is sometimes harsh and off key which is great for his style but not for his rep as a vocalist.

I keep meaning to get a faith no more album, but keep getting sidetracked, which would you reccomend?


try the albums Angel Dust, King for a Day or The Real Thing. they are my FAVO band next to T00L of course :smoke: !!!

[Rounder]

Hmm do you really rate reznor as a vocalist? I think although his lines are often straight from his heart and you can really feel the emotion, i think that he sometimes lacks the sweetness* of some better vocalists, such as maynard and thom yorke..

*worst adjective ever. I can't put across what i mean. But reznor is sometimes harsh and off key which is great for his style but not for his rep as a vocalist.

I keep meaning to get a faith no more album, but keep getting sidetracked, which would you reccomend?

Im a huge FNM fan, and i don't know about reznor, but I think it would be interesting to see Patton up there with Tool.

As far as albums to recommend, if your just getting into FNM, I would say either The Real Thing, or King For A Day, Fool For A Lifetime. The Real Thing is more metal, less polished, and a little darker IMO, but King for a day has almost more of a punk influence, (I hate punk so don't worry, they are way beyond everything else). My favorite album is probably King for A Day.

The Real Thing has that single "epic" which is the last favorite song of mine on the record, but that's how the album sounds, although writing wise everything they do is is different.

If you have the new version of Winamp (5), (which is free-winamp.com) you can open the winamp.com-videos section (in the classic rock section for some dumb reason) and check out all the videos. Digging the Grave is one of my favs and its on King for a day. The only videos for The real thing are Epic, and Falling to pieces, the 2 singles from that record, But dont let that fool you, the other songs on the album are waaaaaay better than those. The other vids are from the other albums, Angeldust and Album of the Year. Ignore Annes song and We care a lot with that gay singer they had before patton. :angry:

[clearvision]

Thanks, I'll check out king for a day I think :)

[Magicaltroll]

Hmm do you really rate reznor as a vocalist? I think although his lines are often straight from his heart and you can really feel the emotion, i think that he sometimes lacks the sweetness* of some better vocalists, such as maynard and thom yorke..

*worst adjective ever. I can't put across what i mean. But reznor is sometimes harsh and off key which is great for his style but not for his rep as a vocalist.

I keep meaning to get a faith no more album, but keep getting sidetracked, which would you reccomend?
I love Reznors singing so much, so much emotion in pretty much all of his songs.
Somewhat like Kurt Cobain emotion wise I think.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I love Reznors singing so much, so much emotion in pretty much all of his songs.
Somewhat like Kurt Cobain emotion wise I think.

That's true because nothing says emotion like Nirvana songs :rolleyes:

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Amazing. This board is just a haven for Nirvana-hating.

[Kage]

To hell he's not! :p

Listen to Maynard on Lateralus...songs like The Grudge, The Patient, Schism, Lateralus and especially Reflection...very dark, etherial vocals.

Dark...ethereal...that's the perfect description.

I would kill for a Maynard, Reznor, and Patton collaboration. Reznor commands some of the greatest talent for conveying emotion.

[The JoZ]

It would have to be at least a 21 minute long song to do all three men justice :cool:

Each gets 7 minutes to sing.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Yeah, imagine that... A nice vocal medley between the three best vocalists.
Hey, it would definitely work. I loved Passenger.

[The JoZ]

Yeah, imagine that... A nice vocal medley between the three best vocalists.
Hey, it would definitely work. I loved Passenger.

****, why not just throw Chino in there too? :thumb:

[Kage]

****, why not just throw Chino in there too? :thumb:

Hell yes

[Adam Jones is GOD]

****, why not just throw Chino in there too? :thumb:

Give them each an octave to cover, and try for some insane harmony

[Syncratic]

Yeah...just thinking about that is kicking ***.

[Kage]

Give them each an octave to cover, and try for some insane harmony

:lol:

[The JoZ]

Give them each an octave to cover, and try for some insane harmony

Chino = Lower octave
Maynard = Mid-to-high octave
Trent = Weird vocal effects with delay and stuff
Patton = I dunno

[Kage]

I think Chino would be more suited for a higher ocatve...he sings pretty high.

[Kage]

Patton could do the low, and Reznor/Maynard could take care of mid-ranged stuff

[The JoZ]

Whatever :p

I think we can all agree that such a collaboration would be super sexy

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I think Chino would be more suited for a higher ocatve...he sings pretty high.

Best not be hoping to do it live then. He fails 9/10 to hit those notes

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Whatever :p

I think we can all agree that such a collaboration would be super sexy

It could probably be an ego fest too.

Although im sure even Chino would feel giddy in such company

[Kage]

Best not be hoping to do it live then. He fails 9/10 to hit those notes

Eh, I don't know about that. He's gotten a lot better, I've noticed.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

****, why not just throw Chino in there too? :thumb:

Hell yes. That song made me realize the potential of Chino. I thought he was just as good as Maynard. It was an extremely good duet.

[Kage]

True. Their voices work really well together.

/listens to Passenger

[clearvision]

Chino would do background

Maynard would take the main hook.chorus

Reznor the verses

can't comment on patton as i haven't heard him...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Eh, I don't know about that. He's gotten a lot better, I've noticed.

I guess the two times I saw him are a bad precedent to go by. One at a festival where he looked tanked up more than normal. The second at Wembely with the worst sound ever.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Hey, I think this may have been brought up before. But would you guys think that a trip-hop group would be a great opening for Tool? You know, something softer like Massive Attack or Portishead to lead up to some heavy prog rock in Tool. I'd love it.

[clearvision]

Was the wembley gig when apc were supporting?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Was the wembley gig when apc were supporting?

Yeah. their sound was awesome, like it was straight from the record.

Then some idiot turns up everything waaay too much for the Deftones.

[Kage]

I guess the two times I saw him are a bad precedent to go by. One at a festival where he looked tanked up more than normal. The second at Wembely with the worst sound ever.

Oh, man they have off days without a doubt. I've seen footage where they're almost falling apart. But every show I've been to and the majority of the videos I've seen have been awesome. The second performance I went to last October was incredible.

[Kage]

It could probably be an ego fest too.

Although im sure even Chino would feel giddy in such company

Apparently Reznor has no ego at all, and I don't really understand the crack about Chino.

/half sarcasm

[clearvision]

Meh I love white pony, but don't feel as much love for around the fur...Passenger is quality...

Some of their stuff would be tough live...

[The JoZ]

Hey, I think this may have been brought up before. But would you guys think that a trip-hop group would be a great opening for Tool? You know, something softer like Massive Attack or Portishead to lead up to some heavy prog rock in Tool. I'd love it.

I can't say, cause I've never heard MA or Portishead...but I have a feeling the two fanbases would feel alienated somehow...

[Kage]

Around the Fur took a while to grow on me, but now it's my favorite Deftones album. White Pony is what originally got me into them.

[clearvision]

I can't say, cause I've never heard MA or Portishead...but I have a feeling the two fanbases would feel alienated somehow...

Yeah, but i think that will ahppen with alot of bands

The only band i think could successfully support are Nin..with both fan bases being happy...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Meh I love white pony, but don't feel as much love for around the fur...Passenger is quality...

Some of their stuff would be tough live...

Adrenaline - Pumped up, straight up hard rock

Around The Fur - has their best songs on, and their worst too.

White Pony - All round solid record, but some songs lack

Deftones -

New Album - Big hopes, but more interest into what direction they've gone

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Yeah, but i think that will ahppen with alot of bands

The only band i think could successfully support are Nin..with both fan bases being happy...

Im still up for the Tool/Opeth joint tour myself.

And someone called me pessamistic.... :lol:

[clearvision]

You failed to comment on the S/T...just informing you :p

I probably should check out adrenaline and s/t

[Huber]

I just can't get into Deftones. I can't get into it.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

You failed to comment on the S/T...just informing you :p

I probably should check out adrenaline and s/t

There was no typo my friend

[Huber]

Yeah, but i think that will ahppen with alot of bands

The only band i think could successfully support are Nin..with both fan bases being happy...

I think Opeth and Tool would be a nice compatable tour.

Edit: Didn't see the AJIG post where he mentioned this, my bad. This thread is movin' pretty fast.

[clearvision]

Im still up for the Tool/Opeth joint tour myself.

And someone called me pessamistic.... :lol:

:lol:well forest won Y'day, so there is a source for your optimism...mine is just being flushed down a drain atm :(

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Amazing. This board is just a haven for Nirvana-hating.

Sorry bro, but he could have named so many singers that showed a great deal of emotion, and he chose Cobain. That's worthy of a thrashing.

[Kage]

There was no typo my friend

Ha. That's my second favorite from them.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

:lol:well forest won Y'day, so there is a source for your optimism...mine is just being flushed down a drain atm :(

Mathematical source of optimisim at least. We're still doomed. Least we wont finish Bottom* of the league



*tool reference to keep this post relevant

[clearvision]

But if he thinks cobain shows emotion, why shouldn't he be allowed to express his view? By all means express yours but do not devalue his like that.

[Huber]

AiC and Tool would be an awesome tour. I wish that could happen.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Ha. That's my second favorite from them.

I just cant get into it. Minerva was great, could have been straight off White Pony. however, its too lazy at points, or Chino's voice isnt with the song. I've tried several times, but I still dont get it.

[clearvision]

Hmm, I've been digging dirt lateley, some great songs Rooster, Would?, Angry chair, Rain when i die, Dam that river, Them bones..but the rest is mediocre imo...

[Kage]

I just cant get into it. Minerva was great, could have been straight off White Pony. however, its too lazy at points, or Chino's voice isnt with the song. I've tried several times, but I still dont get it.

Interesting...in my opinion Chino's vocals meld with the song the best of any album on that one. yes, it is lazy at points, the band has even admitted that, but I still think it's a beautiful piece of work. The keyboards are fantastic.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

AiC and Tool would be an awesome tour. I wish that could happen.

Fvck yeah. As you can see from my moniker and avatar, that'd be a wet dream of mine.

On the NIN thing, why would NIN support Tool? NIN is pretty huge by itself. There would be egos involved, wouldn't there?

[Huber]

Slayer opened for Slipknot, and even being a Slipknot fan I know that's kinda strange. It could happen.

Also, if I remember right, on the first time around Metallica opened for Godsmack.

I don't think egos would clash, all it means is that one person is playing first and the other second.

[clearvision]

Why? Slayer and Slipknot? As long as each play an equal set it would be probably the best tour ever. Erm Kage since your in the thread, what is perfect drug all about, which album is it on etc? I seem to ahve all of their 'albums' apart form FDTS but i ahven't got perfect drug...

I have TDS, TF, PHM, With teeth and Broken...am i missing anyother albums apart from FTDS?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Interesting...in my opinion Chino's vocals meld with the song the best of any album on that one. yes, it is lazy at points, the band has even admitted that, but I still think it's a beautiful piece of work. The keyboards are fantastic.

Yeah, Delgado's work has come a long way I agree. But the mellow parts are being hindered by Stef's guitar lines. Its always been the problem in that band, stef wants to 'rock out' 24/7, while Chino wants to mix it up. Hence ( i guess), why he started Team Sleep

[clearvision]

Team sleep? Is that chino's band or stef's? Are they good?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Chinos.

They're playing at Download. ill find you their audio page.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Perfect Drug isn't on Broken?

Edit: I think it's from Lost Highway

[Kage]

Why? Slayer and Slipknot? As long as each play an equal set it would be probably the best tour ever. Erm Kage since your in the thread, what is perfect drug all about, which album is it on etc? I seem to ahve all of their 'albums' apart form FDTS but i ahven't got perfect drug...

I have TDS, TF, PHM, With teeth and Broken...am i missing anyother albums apart from FTDS?

Perfect Drug was a single song he did in between the era of TDS and TF. It was sort of an experiment, I think, as Reznor works on many different projects in between the five or six years of every NIN album. He made that song prior to releasing the The Fragile, and it kind of threw everyone off as to the style of TF.

And you're not missing any full albums really, unless you want to count AATCHB or TFA, neither of which contain any new material, relativley speaking. Also, didn't you say you had Still? Other than that, you're missing a large number of Halos, but a lot of those are unnecessary.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Hmm, I've been digging dirt lateley, some great songs Rooster, Would?, Angry chair, Rain when i die, Dam that river, Them bones..but the rest is mediocre imo...

Down in a Hole? MEDIOCRE?!? I will smite thee!

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

But if he thinks cobain shows emotion, why shouldn't he be allowed to express his view? By all means express yours but do not devalue his like that.

You've got a point, and I apologize. Sorry, man.

[clearvision]

Yeah the halos are for collectors, since i'm downlaoding them i don't really see the point...what is TFA? /embarrased. Yeha i have got still, i like it loads, second to with teeth in my rankings...

[Kage]

Perfect Drug isn't on Broken?

Edit: I think it's from Lost Highway

I think it is on the Lost Highway soundtrack, but it's also its own Halo.

[Rounder]

Down in a Hole? MEDIOCRE?!? I will smite thee!

yea, Dirt is an amazing record from front to back, if not THE best then very close to the best. Along with the last AIC record (i call it Tripod).

Chino: hes ok to me when hes not whining so much. I saw them live with Incubus (worst live sound I have ever seen) and Chino busted out Digital Bath prefectly. He was on that night.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Hmm, I've been digging dirt lateley, some great songs Rooster, Would?, Angry chair, Rain when i die, Dam that river, Them bones..but the rest is mediocre imo...

Yeah, that's a great CD. But it's their most depressing album. I always have to get in the mood to listen to songs like SickMan and Dirt.

Yeah, I'm also surprised that you think Down in a Hole is mediocre.

[Huber]

Down in a Hole? MEDIOCRE?!? I will smite thee!

Yeah, Down In A Hole is pretty good.

Man, people in this thread are talking about 3 different bands, and none of which are Tool. Not that anythings wrong with that, just making an observation.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Team Sleep Audio (http://myspace.com/teamsleep)

[clearvision]

Down in the hole is ok, but it obviously wasn't a stand out track to me, as i listed the ones i enjoy from memory in my post. Rain when i die or would? is the best...

...cheers AJIG

[Kage]

Yeah the halos are for collectors, since i'm downlaoding them i don't really see the point...what is TFA? /embarrased. Yeha i have got still, i like it loads, second to with teeth in my rankings...

Yes, I love Still, it's such a nice variation on the normal songs. I'm waiting to buy With Teeth when it comes out, so I can't comment on that.

TFA = Things Falling Apart, which is basically for TF what FDTS was for TDS.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Yeah, Down In A Hole is pretty good.

Man, people in this thread are talking about 3 different bands, and none of which are Tool. Not that anythings wrong with that, just making an observation.

I think it's pretty interesting that we all, pretty much, like the same bands.

Some of you said that you hadn't heard Massive Attack, btw.

here's massive attack - inertia creeps
http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=14KPQXB8TW8AU39GKQB3A4CKUV

[Kage]

Team Sleep Audio (http://myspace.com/teamsleep)
Have you seen the album cover for the new album? *shudders*

[clearvision]

:lol: you wait...when you hear 'right where it belongs' again...*droool*

Yeha i'll probably check em out to see what their like...and get the DVD for B'day or something...

The version of TF on still is great, as is the becoming...better than the originals i think.

[Maynard's Dick]

Man, people in this thread are talking about 3 different bands, and none of which are Tool. Not that anythings wrong with that, just making an observation.

Quite true. Just to temporarily bring the discussion back to Tool...
For argument's sake I will post a question:

What if the new Tool album was mediocre/sucked? How would the fans react?
(Of course I do not believe this album will disapoint but just think about it...)

[clearvision]

Hmm Team sleep sound quality...

/ignores maynards D!ck's question, I don't wanna think about it...

[Kage]

:lol: you wait...when you hear 'right where it belongs' again...*droool*

Yeha i'll probably check em out to see what their like...and get the DVD for B'day or something...

The version of TF on still is great, as is the becoming...better than the originals i think.
And it also has one of my favorite NIN songs: And All That Could Have Been.

The Becoming is absoultely amazing on it as well. I think that version is definately better than the album version.

[Darkness]

Quite true. Just to temporarily bring the discussion back to Tool...
For argument's sake I will post a question:

What if the new Tool album was mediocre/sucked? How would the fans react?
(Of course I do not believe this album will disapoint but just think about it...)
They'd remain as my favorite band, at least untill I find a band who could replace the awesomeness of Lateralus...

[clearvision]

Massive attack sounds good, would be strange expierience for fans of both bands though i think, this is almost dance music....

May is gonna be a good month for music, Audioslave, Nin, Team sleep, Kanye?

[Syncratic]

I think thgat 2005 is gonna be good for music.....Tool, 'With Teeth', possible RHCP material....and hopefully emo dies.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Massive attack sounds good, would be strange expierience for fans of both bands though i think, this is almost dance music....

May is gonna be a good month for music, Audioslave, Nin, Team sleep, Kanye?

:lol: Dance music? Maybe for swaying during an acid-trip.

[clearvision]

Meh, to me it is in the style of Kid A which is basically dance, well maybe not dance, electronica, technooo...yeah i know what i mean, shame i can't put it into words :upset:

[The JoZ]

I think thgat 2005 is gonna be good for music.....Tool, 'With Teeth', possible RHCP material....and hopefully emo dies.

And let's not forget Dream Theater's "Octavarium" in June :D

[Adam Jones is GOD]

And let's not forget Dream Theater's "Octavarium" in June :D

I've got some catching up to do before then then

[clearvision]

Meh, I looked for Nin tickets the other day... £87 standing...If only i could have got into them earlier

/:upset:

//from UK

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Meh, I looked for Nin tickets the other day... £87 standing...If only i could have got into them earlier

/:upset:

//from UK

There is still a space on their tour dates for download.


/crosses fingers

[clearvision]

/would cry

Download annoyed me with the shocking Friday they have...and the fact that they throw the festival right in the middle of exams...

[The JoZ]

I've got some catching up to do before then then

I can hook you up with all the Dream Theater you can handle, and then some :cool:

[Darkness]

On top of all that other stuff, Opeth is in the studio right now. :D


and tool..

[Adam Jones is GOD]

The Friday is a nice warm up.

Napalm Death should be interesting. Biffy Own, Megadave should be fun, and the second stage is a nice mix.

More variety than Reading/Leeds still

Edit: To clearvision

I can hook you up with all the Dream Theater you can handle, and then some :cool:

YOu'll have to upload, my msn is still ghey. I've not gone mor ethan an hour without listening to the Glass Prision. No joke.

[clearvision]

So reading has more acts that i like...and is not in the exam period...

I'm not going to either though, my mate couldn't get money before tickets sold out :(

[The JoZ]

YOu'll have to upload, my msn is still ghey. I've not gone mor ethan an hour without listening to the Glass Prision. No joke.

Nice.

I think I am going to splice together "The Mirror/Lie" because they are two songs, but they really are one...kind of like Parabol/Parabola...you need to hear these tracks, freaking awesome...off the "Awake" album.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Yeah, could somebody upload the Glass Prison?

Edit: All I've heard from DT was the very long medley "Change of the Seasons" (which I liked a lot) and "6:00" (which I really didnt dig).

[Darkness]

I don't really like Dream Theaters singer to much... must be an aquired taste.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Im buying Awake next time im in a city. Only one that my local music store doesnt stock. So a nice taster would be nice

[clearvision]

I will upload Images and words for you when I'm next online. Because i believe it is their best work. I listened to it 5 times today. And i can't ahve JoZ polluting you with awake :p ...wait for sleep *drool*

EDIT : looks like i'll do ti tonight

[Huber]

I don't really like Dream Theaters singer to much... must be an aquired taste.

His voice was a shoe-in for me.

[Kage]

I don't really like Dream Theaters singer to much... must be an aquired taste.
He's the reason I don't listen to them. That and I haven't found a song that lives up to The Glass Prison (instrumentally, at least).

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Dream Theater - The Glass Prison (http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=39NP2B3G6QM1J054O4IZEAD9FT)

:cool:

I should check if its active first though

Edit: Yep, but get JoZ's permission first

[Darkness]

^ Heh yeah the glass prisons not a bad song but a better vocalist would make that band waaay better...

Edit: this thread has been wild in the past 2 hours... geez..

[Kage]

I like Petrucci's playing, but it isn't enough to warrant listening to the whole band when I dislike one aspect as strongly as I do the singing.

[Darkness]

^ Exactly... though I'm not to big on his tone... some of it kinda sounds nu metalish to me.. but his solos and most of his riffs are really cool...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I love the vocals. I did after the first listen
Unless thats a one off with that song.

[clearvision]

Images and words is uploading for ya AJIG...can't have you eharing awake first :p

The vox are quite annoying, as he ahs an alto range voice, instead of a tenor...it just sounds wrong most of the time...but you get used to it.

[The JoZ]

Anyone can have The Glass Prison in that link as long as it still works.

I am uploading The Mirror & Lie in a second.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Images and words is uploading for ya AJIG...can't have you eharing awake first :p


I am uploading The Mirror & Lie in a second.

RACE!

[clearvision]

Are you listening to them madey?

Rigth where it belongs is my favourite song atm...it is just soooo good.

[Huber]

Hey guys.. I found some neat stuff on NIN. I'm posting this in here as well as the NIN thread, because I know this thread has a lot of NIN fans. :)

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7649940&postcount=566

Currently this is more like the Tool Fan Community thread. Not much Tool conversation, but conversation amongst Tool fans.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

The Glass Prison sounds kinda cool. But I liked A Change of Seasons a lot more because wasn't as much of a shred fest.

[Kage]

The beginning instrumentals of The Glass Prison are so dark and cool. Then the voice comes in and takes away all the darkness.

[clearvision]

RACE!

me = whole album

JoZ = 2 songs

+ the fact that YSI hates me with a passion

= JoZ wins the race...

[Huber]

/listens to The Glass Prison

So far so awesome :thumb:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Currently this is more like the Tool Fan Community thread. Not much Tool conversation, but conversation amongst Tool fans.

Its a good thing really. Since there isnt any tool talk we can have at the moment, it makes sense to share other bands and opinions, without being polluted by the R&M n00bs and morons

[Huber]

That's awesome. But I happen to know there are a lot of people in this thread who like NIN. Chill out.

I didn't mean to sound like it was a bad thing, I'm enjoying it.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

The beginning instrumentals of The Glass Prison are so dark and cool. Then the voice comes in and takes away all the darkness.


I don't like the singer, either. :(

[clearvision]

Currently this is more like the Tool Fan Community thread. Not much Tool conversation, but conversation amongst Tool fans.

i'm sorry sliptallica, you sound quite annoyed about this. If you suggest some tool related topic that hasn't eben discussed a million times we'd gladly put some input in there. But using this thread for new music is a great tool (hehe) i think, as we all like similair stuff...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

me = whole album

JoZ = 2 songs

+ the fact that YSI hates me with a passion

= JoZ wins the race...

You're uploading the entire album? Its against my morals. :smash:

But ill be buying it im sure, so that makes it right, right?

[Kage]

/listening to the Glass Prison

AAGHGH!! The longer this goes on the cheeiser it gets. The keyboard are downright foolish, and the voices around 6:30 and the high singing at 7:00 onwards are ear-shatteringly cheesy.

[Huber]

i'm sorry sliptallica, you sound quite annoyed about this. If you suggest some tool related topic that hasn't eben discussed a million times we'd gladly put some input in there. But using this thread for new music is a great tool (hehe) i think, as we all like similair stuff...

I didn't mean to sound like it was a bad thing, I'm enjoying it.

Lately things I say seem to give off an annoyed tone, I have no idea why, but I didn't want to sound annoyed at all. I think it's great conversation about a great group of bands.

[clearvision]

You're uploading the entire album? Its against my morals. :smash:

But ill be buying it im sure, so that makes it right, right?

yeah the idea of this upload is to push you in the right direction with which album to buy :)

[Huber]

/listening to the Glass Prison

AAGHGH!! The longer this goes on the cheeiser it gets. The keyboard are downright foolish, and the voices around 6:30 and the high singing at 7:00 onwards are ear-shatteringly cheesy.

I love high pitched singing vocals, probably because of PM.

[Kage]

Has anyone else checked out the streams?
Um...no. I think I've made my position on that quite clear.

[clearvision]

Has anyone else checked out the streams?

I have no need, I have the whole album :)

Though i suggest everyone checks out right where it belongs...

[The JoZ]

The fact that he loves TGP makes me think AJIG will like Awake better.

You know, the album that actually HAS some balls compared to I&W :p

[Huber]

Has anyone else checked out the streams?

I'm going too after I'm done listening to the Glass Prison

[The JoZ]

Dream Theater - "The Mirror" & "Lie" (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1R3YBCHNGA6Y73GN1L4ZBZOEQT)

Enjoy!!! :cool:

[Kage]

But they're official. It's not like you're downloading anything illegal.
I could give a rat's *** about illegal, I'm talking about the experience.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Does anyone want to here more Portishead or Massive Attack? Or should I not bother. I'm not offended or anything, it's just that I have these links with me, and I might as well use them.

[Huber]

But they're official. It's not like you're downloading anything illegal.

I think it's more of an anticipation thing. He wants to buy the album when it's released, and have that first session and take it in all at once. I'm doing that with Catch 33.

[clearvision]

The fact that he loves TGP makes me think AJIG will like Awake better.

You know, the album that actually HAS some balls compared to I&W :p

Balls? It's all about knowing where your feminine side is and knowing you can resort to it (another day, surrounded) but still being able to rock out (take the time, metropolis) Yeah I+W has got balls.

I'm beginning to think that i may just love this album for wait for sleep :o

And TGP is my favourite DT song, so that is irrelevant :p

[Darkness]

/downloads hopeing its not as bad as he thinks it will probably be...

[Kage]

I think it's more of an anticipation thing. He wants to buy the album when it's released, and have that first session and take it in all at once. I'm doing that with Catch 33.

Precisely. The first day I'm getting it, I'll blast it on the surround sound. My crappy computer speakers (relatlively speaking) can't compete with that. Not to mention, I love the thrill of opening a brand new CD and looking at the artwork as I experience its ambience.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Precisely. The first day I'm getting it, I'll blast it on the surround sound. My crappy computer speakers (relatlively speaking) can't compete with that. Not to mention, I love the thrill of opening a brand new CD and looking at the artwork as I experience its ambience.

I know how you feel. I wil be dong this with Tool. Even though i think they will try hard not to allow it to be leaked

[Kage]

I know how you feel. I wil be dong this with Tool. Even though i think they will try hard not to allow it to be leaked
Tool is definately a band that I need to do that with. Same goes with most of my favorite bands, but with Tool it's almost a necessity.

[Huber]

How exactly do things get leaked anyways? Some ******* takes it from the studio and puts into the P2P servers or what?

[clearvision]

Does anyone want to here more Portishead or Massive Attack? Or should I not bother. I'm not offended or anything, it's just that I have these links with me, and I might as well use them.

Go for it, I will listen...that song was cool... :)

[Kage]

That's one way, I guess. Then there are journalists, hackers, etc.

[Kage]

Does anyone want to here more Portishead or Massive Attack? Or should I not bother. I'm not offended or anything, it's just that I have these links with me, and I might as well use them.
I'd love to hear some Portishead. I've never heard them, but they sound really interesting.

[clearvision]

How exactly do things get leaked anyways? Some ******* takes it from the studio and puts into the P2P servers or what?

Lol i only know that has happened once, With tim skold's Ep, they stole it out of his trailer and eh refused to finish it...

normally it is a copy sent to a reviewer that is leaked...I guess sometimes it comes from the studio though.

[Huber]

That's one way, I guess. Then there are journalists, hackers, etc.

Ahhh, the hackers. Didn't think about that...

The Glass Prison is over(Awesome BTW, thanks Joz). Time for the NIN streams...

[Rothmans]

How exactly do things get leaked anyways? Some ******* takes it from the studio and puts into the P2P servers or what?

A lot of journalist's leak them and some times false friends can.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Sometimes it can even be someone working in the studio. Which is another reason for tool to shut themselves away and update as little as possible

(or thats the excuse they could use)

[Kage]

I think in this day and age, it's almost impossible to not have songs leaked.

[Rothmans]

Sometimes it can even be someone working in the studio. Which is another reason for tool to shut themselves away and update as little as possible

(or thats the excuse they could use)

Yeah like noone knew the name for laterlaus until it came out or nothing about it.

[Kage]

Also.. the CDs get shipped to retailers WEEKS before the release, and usually some little dickhead kid gets in there, jacks one, and puts it on the internet.

Yeah, that's true.

[Huber]

I wanna know how Catch 33 got leaked. That was very very early.

[Syncratic]

When the new album comes out, I'll pick that and Frances the Mute up,cuz by then I'll have my 75$ that I won.....sweet :)

[Kage]

Yeah like noone knew the name for laterlaus until it came out or nothing about it.
That's because the information released about it was made up.

[Huber]

No, don't slow down!

[Kage]

:lol:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

C'mon people, my refresh button can take the pain.

Wasnt it the Deftones who released false press packs of an album, that when played said something like <insert deftones new songs here>?

That would be a clever decoy thing to pull again. And a very Tool humour thing

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Portishead - Mysterons
http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2836344IY2RN738CIYTQMD02MR

Massive Attack - Risingson
http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0FUDF2W8LULLO022V1MALDJ9WK

[Darkness]

^ lol thats kinda funny..

to ajig..

[Kage]

Yeah I think Deftones did that.

[clearvision]

C'mon people, my refresh button can take the pain.

Wasnt it the Deftones who released false press packs of an album, that when played said something like <insert deftones new songs here>?

That would be a clever decoy thing to pull again. And a very Tool humour thing

yeah they did that with the S/t album...YSI hates me :(

thanks In chains..

[Huber]

That'd be funny. I'd so do that if I was in charge of my band's releases and stuff

[The JoZ]

So come on, dammit, did you like Mirror/Lie? :evil:

[Huber]

Oh, I missed that post.

/gives it a spin

[Darkness]

After blackwater park I'll give it a listen...

[Huber]

Why do people talk down about John Petrucci all the time? I go to the guitar forum sometimes for ****s and there's almost always some random Petrucci joke.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

So come on, dammit, did you like Mirror/Lie? :evil:

Ill let you know once I get my F%*£&^%*"& headphones working :angry:

I use wireless ones, and there are 2 pairs in my house, one that has no charge, and one with full charge. And guess who cant find the full charge set.

This is why I appeal for speakers

[Kage]

Portishead - Mysterons
http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2836344IY2RN738CIYTQMD02MR

Massive Attack - Risingson
http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0FUDF2W8LULLO022V1MALDJ9WK

Thanks, but....damn you and your .m4a files!

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Why do people talk down about John Petrucci all the time? I go to the guitar forum sometimes for ****s and there's almost always some random Petrucci joke.

A lot of people, including myself, think he's all about style. Although, I thought he was great on ACOTS (ep single medley)

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Thanks, but....damn you and your .m4a files!

I always click and drag from my iTunes. :lol: Sorry if theres an inconvenience

[Huber]

Ill let you know once I get my F%*£&^%*"& headphones working :angry:

I use wireless ones, and there are 2 pairs in my house, one that has no charge, and one with full charge. And guess who cant find the full charge set.

This is why I appeal for speakers

I recently nabbed some speakers from my computer class. The next day another pair were there, and the next day, and the next day. Whoever sits at my computer has like, infinite sets of speakers. There's a new set every day.

[Huber]

A lot of people, including myself, think he's all about style. Although, I thought he was great on ACOTS (ep single medley)

Style of playing, or style of looks?

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Style of playing, or style of looks?

Wtf? Playing, of course.

[Kage]

You can pick up a pair of crappy-decent computer speakers for like 15 bucks.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I recently nabbed some speakers from my computer class. The next day another pair were there, and the next day, and the next day. Whoever sits at my computer has like, infinite sets of speakers. There's a new set every day.

"Morning Bob"
"Hi Barry"
"wahts up man?"
"Someone keeps taking my speakers. i swear he must eat them, as I buy a new set everyday, and its costing me a fortune"
"Well keep it up, he'll grow tired one day"

[Huber]

Wtf? Playing, of course.

What's wrong with that then?

[clearvision]

ACTOS???

I like his more melodic moments, first solo in another day...

[Huber]

"Morning Bob"
"Hi Barry"
"wahts up man?"
"Someone keeps taking my speakers. i swear he must eat them, as I buy a new set everyday, and its costing me a fortune"
"Well keep it up, he'll grow tired one day"

Hah, yeah. Almost everyone who's needed them in my class has gotten a new set of speakers.

[clearvision]

crappy-decent

:lol: :smash:

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

ACOTS - A Change of the Seasons

I get tired of writing that out

[The JoZ]

ACTOS???

I like his more melodic moments, first solo in another day...

ACOS = A Change of Seasons.

Another Day sucks btw :p

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

*changes name to A Change of Seasons*

[clearvision]

I didnt think there was a 'the' in there :(

Tssk JoZ you hater :( I have tried to get into awake, but i only like dance of eternity, threough her eyes and home really...oh and the silent man. (just noticed i seem to like the womanly songs :() Is ToT better than Awake?

[The JoZ]

I didnt think there was a 'the' in there :(

Tssk JoZ you hater :( I have tried to get into awake, but i only like dance of eternity, threough her eyes and home really...oh and the silent man. (just noticed i seem to like the womanly songs :() Is ToT better than Awake?

Uh...

"Dance of Eternity", "Through Her Eyes" and "Home" are all on Scenes From A Memory, not Awake

[Darkness]

lol..

[clearvision]

Uh...

"Dance of Eternity", "Through Her Eyes" and "Home" are all on Scenes From A Memory, not Awake

Yeah i knew that... :smash:

right lemme try that again while skimming through...

Actually i dont mind the first half of the album apart form innocence faded, i get bored after the silent man...but ti doesnt compare with I+W

[The JoZ]

Yeah i knew that... :smash:

right lemme try that again while skimming through...

Actually i dont mind the first half of the album apart form innocence faded, i get bored after the silent man...but ti doesnt compare with I+W

I can't stand Innocence Faded.

You know, it's not that I hate I&W alot...I just hate Surrounded and Another Day. They suck.

Pull Me Under, Take The Time, Metropolis, Under a Glass Moon and Learning To Live are great songs.

[clearvision]

Waiiit fooor sleeeep.

I don't like surrounded too much, but another day has some quality sax...

/note to self, never try and quote songs from memory again. Especially from an album you don't know too well...

[The JoZ]

Waiiit fooor sleeeep.

I don't like surrounded too much, but another day has some quality sax...

/note to self, never try and quote songs from memory again. Especially from an album you don't know too well...

:lol:

FYI, the tracklisting to Awake is as follows

1) 6:00
2) Caught in a Web
3) Innocence Faded
4) Erotomania (Instrumental)
5) Voices
6) The Silent Man
7) The Mirror
8) Lie
9) Lifting Shadows off a Dream
10) Scarred
11) Space-Dye Vest

[clearvision]

Yeah i went through and skim listened it for my second post...

Do you like SFAM? and 6 degrees?

I like SFAM but couldnt get into 6 degrees, and don't really know what to look fro next, I'm thinking when dream and day unite 'cause the YTSE Jam kicks some arse..

[freaks_refuge]

Why do people talk down about John Petrucci all the time? I go to the guitar forum sometimes for ****s and there's almost always some random Petrucci joke.

Because NO-ONE should have their guitar that high :P
And I dont like him because I think he's really over-rated, is too much of a show-off and I really dont like Dream Theater. He has no real feeling to his playing.
And for someone who I've seen play chromatic scales without looking, he was concentrating an awful lot on their master of puppets cover. But I dont really like Metallica too much either.

[The JoZ]

Yeah i went through and skim listened it for my second post...

Do you like SFAM? and 6 degrees?

I like SFAM but couldnt get into 6 degrees, and don't really know what to look fro next, I'm thinking when dream and day unite 'cause the YTSE Jam kicks some arse..

I think SFAM is overrated personally. The story is good, and the songs are good, but I just can't get into it. It's mostly too soft for my taste. That being said, I really like "Fatal Tragedy", "Beyond This Life", "Home" and "The Dance of Eternity"

6 Degrees...well. I love "The Glass Prison", "Blind Faith" and "The Great Debate" on disc one, I don't care for "Misunderstood" or "Disappear".

The song "6 Degrees" is ok, but I wasn't that impressed with it really, as a whole. A couple of the parts, such as "War Inside my Head" and "The Test That Stumped Them All" I like, but overall, meh.

ToT > Awake IMO.

[clearvision]

I will check ToT out on your reccomendation. I think my main problem with awake is the fact it's so darn long, and i wanna move onto a different album after about 40mins.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

What's wrong with that then?

He shreds WAYY too much. You don't have to show off your talent that much. IMO More often, he should be more restrained and should crescendo into more of his shredding/solos.

[The JoZ]

I will check ToT out on your reccomendation. I think my main problem with awake is the fact it's so darn long, and i wanna move onto a different album after about 40mins.

Well, I mean

ToT's Tracklisting:

1) As I Am (7:47)
2) This Dying Soul (11:27)
3) Endless Sacrifice (11:24)
4) Honor Thy Father (10:04)
5) Vacant (2:51)
6) Stream of Consciousness [Instrumental] (11:16)
7) In the Name of God (14:14)

...So if you hate long songs, you might not like this album :p

[Huber]

I guess I'm not enough of a guitarist for that too annoy me much.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Headphones working, first listen: its a grower.

Didnt hook me as quickly as TGP, and has fewever changes for me, but still was cool and parts I cna pick out as cool.

[The JoZ]

Headphones working, first listen: its a grower.

Didnt hook me as quickly as TGP, and has fewever changes for me, but still was cool and parts I cna pick out as cool.

Yeah, it didn't hook me like TGP did either.

But it will grow on you, I guarantee it :cool:

I love the transition from Mirror to Lie

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Well I have no clue where the transition took place. Maybe due to you placing them together too well. :p

Oh well, once I buy the album, ill know

[The JoZ]

Well I have no clue where the transition took place. Maybe due to you placing them together too well. :p

Oh well, once I buy the album, ill know

The long Bb to B bend that Petrucci did before they started a new chugging riff. The chugging riff is the beginning to Lie.

[clearvision]

You have Perfect Pitch? Or just studied the tabs? I have the worst pitch ever, sometimes i'm ok, others I'm well off, depends on the day :(

Sounds like ToT is epic too, will have to check it out though..

[The JoZ]

You have Perfect Pitch? Or just studied the tabs? I have the worst pitch ever, sometimes i'm ok, others I'm well off, depends on the day :(

Sounds like ToT is epic too, will have to check it out though..

Well, I have MIDI files of said songs, and with my composition program, can see said songs in standard notation. So I know what notes they're playing :p

[clearvision]

Oh, I was very jelous of you for a little moment there. I keep meaning to learn some stuff on piano, like wait for sleep and the solo off take the time...But i always forget about it...i will print off the music this week. /Objective.

[clearvision]

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=099GZP15NRT4H3SXP2Q4DRP3FP

there ya go, Dream theaters - images + words

took phucking ages

night all...

[Rounder]

I really just dont like james labrie and his 80's power metal style vocals. I like all of the music. John pettrucci is my second fav guitar player (guess who's first), and Ive always disagreed with those who say he doesn't play 'with emotion' (whatever the hell that means). He is very melodic, and his playing can send chills up my spine, (not just his solos, the long riff near the end of Universal mind still gives me goosebumps).

As for dt's records, my fav will always and forever be ACOS. Its pretty much perfect. Even the live tunes sound incredible. The cover of perfect strangers is killer (ive never even heard the original). I loved every part of SFAM except for the vocal/storyline, which I though was kinda lame and nothing to do with Metropolis pt.1. I didn't get into 6degrees too much, there were a good couple of tunes, (along with a straight up Toolism in The Great Debate.) I&W I will always like cuz it was my first DT record. Awake is good, I thought Space Dye Vest was a great song from that record. Yea innocence faded was kinda lame except for the end jam. And Scarred is a really good tune. ToT is at the bottum of my list. I love heavy stuff, but it sounded like DT was 'trying to hard', if you know what I mean. I didn't appreciate the blatant Mustane/Hetfeild vocal imitation, nor the 'phone rap'. JP's solo record is really good, like Liquid Tensiony good, (cept no Levin :upset: )

They should have never gotten rid of Kevin Moore. If you havent heard it, find OSI, its Kevin Moore, Portnoy and one of the guys from fates warning. It's like a mesh of Pink Floyd and Tool. If Kevin stayed with the band, I think they'd be better off (more creative) than with Rudess.

and Not to forget Liquid Tension. If you don't have it get it...

[The JoZ]

Bwahahah

That wasn't even a race :p

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Bwahahah

That wasn't even a race :p

44% downloaded.

I think you won the race event. now for endurance of songs, and overall quality.

[The JoZ]

44% downloaded.

I think you won the race event. now for endurance of songs, and overall quality.

Well, I don't think you can compare Awake and I&W fully, cause I only sent you two songs :o

[Huber]

What do you guys think of Incubus? They would be a decent supporter for Tool.

[Daven]

maybe

[Daven]

Well, I mean

ToT's Tracklisting:

1) As I Am (7:47)
2) This Dying Soul (11:27)
3) Endless Sacrifice (11:24)
4) Honor Thy Father (10:04)
5) Vacant (2:51)
6) Stream of Consciousness [Instrumental] (11:16)
7) In the Name of God (14:14)

...So if you hate long songs, you might not like this album :p

stream of consciousness, this dying soul nad as i am are great. What are your opinions of 6 degrees of inner turbulence. I think is really good, but very calmed IMO

[Daven]

is saliva a "whole" cd like lateralus or its like opiate(really short, like a demo)?

btw, sorry for triple posting

[Huber]

Salival had a few new pieces of material, but it is mostly live tracks. It also has all there videos if I recall.

Edit: The live tracks are amazing IMO, and in most cases better than the studio versions though. Just in case the idea of live tracks isn't worth buying to you.

[Kage]

It's SalivaL and, no, it's not a full album. It's got a cover (or two?) and some unreleased songs as well as live material.

EDIT: Sliptallica beat me to it.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

It has all of their music videos pre-2000?

Edit: No Quarter is the best track on there IMO.

[Huber]

/wins

/2 points

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Will you people stop talking about Dream Theater? There's already an official DT thread, so go post it over there. I don't mean to sound like a prick, but it's really off topic.

[Huber]

It has all of their music videos pre-2000?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

[Daven]

oh thanx to both, sorry for not spelling it right. The real material is awesome.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Will you people stop talking about Dream Theater? There's already an official DT thread, so go post it over there. I don't mean to sound like a prick, but it's really off topic.

There hasn't been any Tool news in a LONG while. Forgive us.

[Merkaba]

I cant find my friggin salival cd!

[Huber]

Will you people stop talking about Dream Theater? There's already an official DT thread, so go post it over there. I don't mean to sound like a prick, but it's really off topic.

Because there isn't much to talk about Tool-wise, we've all kinda changed this into a Community thread until something Tool related comes up. We've talked about DT, NIN, Deftones and such because most everyone in this thread likes these bands.

[BlindWriting]

Will you people stop talking about Dream Theater? There's already an official DT thread, so go post it over there. I don't mean to sound like a prick, but it's really off topic.
Once there's some REAL Tool news, things will be different, but like Sliptallica put it, it's really a Tool fan community rather than just strictly Tool discussion.

[Huber]

I cant find my friggin salival cd!

Dude, that sucks.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

ok, sorry guys, I didnt mean to sound like a jerkoff

[Merkaba]

Dude, that sucks.
:angry: :( sniff...sniff

[Kage]

ok, sorry guys, I didnt mean to sound like a jerkoff
Now there's a nice save.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

thanks haha

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

We can talk about your boy Satch too, if you want. I think his music would fit in the soundtrack of an 80s teen-flick. Anybody else want to add anything?

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

What did everyone think about his latest album, "Is There Love in Space?" I thought it was pretty good, especially the title track.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Just kidding, I think everything he's done has been a cheese-fest. But I don't doubt his guitar skills. He's one of the most technically skilled guitarists I've ever heard. I just don't dig the music.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I can understand that. I'd rip on Tool or AIC, but I love both so much that I possibly couldnt.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

This is probably a very big request, but I would really appreciate if someone could upload Salival, minus Third Eye and Push it live, and No Quarter. I have those three, but I would like the rest of Salival, if you could. :D I would heart you forever.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I really hate Tool's cover of No Quarter. Just doesn't click with me like the original. Anyone else feel this way?

[Magicaltroll]

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=099GZP15NRT4H3SXP2Q4DRP3FP

there ya go, Dream theaters - images + words

took phucking ages

night all...
That albums is WAY too soft for me... I really don't like it.
You guys got me into Dream Theater a little bit again thanks :D

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I love Led Zep, but I didn't like their original. I like Tool's version a lot more, so I actually love the cover.

[Rounder]

I love Led Zep, but I didn't like their original. I like Tool's version a lot more, so I actually love the cover.

I dont like led zep's version at all. I heard Tool's first, and when I heard the original I was like, meh...

[Rounder]

I can understand that. I'd rip on Tool or AIC, but I love both so much that I possibly couldnt.

I liked surfing with the alien and the extremist. Then I saw him live at G3 with Vai, and Pettrucci. Satch's and Vai's attitude made me want to puke. They act like believe everything theyre told about them being guitar gods. Pettrucci humbled both of them imo. Came out, played his songs, played to the crowd, but vai and satch were masterbating. I had alien love secrets and passion from vai, but I dont listen to those guys much anymore due to that show. Pettrucci pwn.

[Huber]

I was just listening to Satch for the first time. Some cool tunes. I'm sorry to hear about how him and Vai acted at that show though.