Tool

[The JoZ]

I just cant get the bit with the keyboard and guitar solos, it is just to fast for my fingers.

Yeah, that's what I can't play either.

NP again AJIG

[clearvision]

it is infact 3 voices :p Awake is just too long, I+W gets kinda heavy with take the time. The glass prison was a stand out track on six degrees, I just couldnt get into it...I may have to look in ToT or Change of seasons sometime i spose.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Change of Seasons is great, IMO. I don't like much of their other stuff though.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

it is infact 3 voices :p .

Dammit, again that happens to me this week. I though Opeth - Bleak was one voice with impressive range at first too.

[The JoZ]

Dammit, again that happens to me this week. I though Opeth - Bleak was one voice with impressive range at first too.

Yeah, during the breakdown part, the vocals switch off between James (singer), Mike (drummer) and John (guitarist).

The vocals at the very beginning were Mike too; at least the deeper sounding stuff.

[clearvision]

:p

/didn't know bleak was more than one voice

With DT you will know it's not james when the vox start sounding like a man :p . I only really listen to DT for Rudess (the keyboard player) He is like my idol, i love the way he intorudec the keyboard/piano into some metal...his solo album is actually amazing. The rest of the band are cool and that, but they very rarely make me :eek: .

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Yeah, during the breakdown part, the vocals switch off between James (singer), Mike (drummer) and John (guitarist).

The vocals at the very beginning were Mike too; at least the deeper sounding stuff.

yeah, I was pointed that out.

Edit due to brain self destruct :upset:

[Huber]

I rarely listen to DT, I just haven't caught on to them yet. I love the Pull Me Under song though.

[ShadowMan]

Hmm, I thought I clicked on the Tool forum...

[Huber]

Hmm, I thought I clicked on the Tool forum...

No hay Tool aqui. Eres stupido! ajajajajajajaja

[clearvision]

Hmm, I thought I clicked on the Tool forum...

*thread

Yeah you did, 250 oddd pages of tool-talk. But with no new info out and most points already discussed multiple times conversation often drifts.

Deal with it beatch.

[Moses]

Listening to the Glass Prison right now, I'm in bliss.

[Darkness]

I heard that song a long *** time ago, and remember not really liking the vocals but I'm ganna give it another try.

[Moses]

:p

/didn't know bleak was more than one voice

With DT you will know it's not james when the vox start sounding like a man :p . I only really listen to DT for Rudess (the keyboard player) He is like my idol, i love the way he intorudec the keyboard/piano into some metal...his solo album is actually amazing. The rest of the band are cool and that, but they very rarely make me :eek: .
I play piano but I don't idolize Jordan Rudess. If someone that doesn't play classical heard him I could really understand. From my standpoint, hes definately good but nothing to drool over.

I'm really liking As I Am ATM. It reminds me of earlier Metallica or Megadeth for some reason.

Oh and when Kage comes back, I looked into about all that D Dorian stuff in Tool and you were right. They use it quite often, more on Aenima, though.

[Darkness]

Guys go to tool band... new front page with a new logo!!

[Moses]

Guys go to tool band... new front page with a new logo!!
I didn't see it.

[Darkness]

Try again its there.

[Moses]

Hmmm...... Whatever I'll do it later.

[Darkness]

Yeah it takes so long to go to tool band.

[misunderstood]

Hmm..it might be the browser. I couldn't get the new page on Firefox..but I tried opening it on Explorer and it's there....I thought there'd be an update though..oh well.

[Moses]

Thats probably it. I'm using Firefox.

[Darkness]

Mabye hes just typing the update...

I can see it now...

"TOOLS NEW CD AND LATERALUS DVD IN STORES...TOMORROW!!!"

[misunderstood]

^Heh, wouldn't that be great. Knowing Blair though, he's probably just teasing us. Making us think there's going to be some great important update...and he's probably not going to post anything for a couple of days. :upset:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I've bookmarked past the title pages for ages.

Although toolband sucks, its still hte first place for any news

[Rothmans]

Although toolband sucks, its still hte first place for any news
True but all the Blair bashing like what is the guy gonna do Tool rarle have any updates and he posts about there influences and tool related more than anything. He does get a hard time but it is a bit ridiculous.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Yeah, ild rather he posts continous crap to at least let us know its being updated, than to be left dead for ages, like kabir's.

Plus he does give out the odd cool thing in an update.

[Rothmans]

Yeah, ild rather he posts continous crap to at least let us know its being updated, than to be left dead for ages, like kabir's.

Plus he does give out the odd cool thing in an update.

He does I loved that story about faaip de ooaid I can and havnt listend to that song in the same way

and kabir's site is good but he abandon's it for a very long while but when tool are back it will be up and lively.

Is anyone a part of Toolarmy?

And if you are what is so special aobut it?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Toolarmy was (and probably still is, but it seems very dead) the tool fan club, if yu will. They allowed you to get advanced reservations on tickets to shows near your area, and a lot of other tool related goodies.

However, being in England, this wasnt really beneficial to me, and their security licens eis out of date, indicating little or no activity these days

[misunderstood]

Yeah, Toolarmy is rather pricey too. I think the best time to join, if you are planning on doing so, is once the band is active only because you'll have the chance to get advanced tickets..and they'll probably have new merchandise. Anyway, I like Blair's updates too...especially his newletters. There's always something weird/funny/odd about them...kinda cool.

[Rothmans]

Toolarmy was (and probably still is, but it seems very dead) the tool fan club, if yu will. They allowed you to get advanced reservations on tickets to shows near your area, and a lot of other tool related goodies.

However, being in England, this wasnt really beneficial to me, and their security licens eis out of date, indicating little or no activity these days

Wait it out and it will be back up (hopefully)
I live in Ireland so it sucks just as much if not more and it is kinda hard to see them even if they were in england but this time if they dont come to Ireland I can go see them in England this time round

[Magicaltroll]

That logo is pretty cool :thumb:

[Rothmans]

That logo is pretty cool :thumb:

I havnt seen the logo yet???

[Darkness]

Its on toolbands splash page.

[Magicaltroll]

I havnt seen the logo yet???
go to toolband.com, and its the first thing that comes up.
Instead of the brain thing, its a.... something now :)

[The JoZ]

That's pretty interesting

[Darkness]

Yeah the new logo looks pretty cool...

[Huber]

I got Thirteenth Step today. It gets a thumbs up :thumb:

[deathmetal]

hey ne1 know when their new album is coming out

[Huber]

We estimate late 2005, early 2006.

[deathmetal]

Thanks, hope it dont blow like the last metallica album did, that was a bummer!

[Magicaltroll]

Ok, does anyone else know if Maynard helps out with the MUSIC (as in melody stuff, instruments, not singing) or anything like that? Because everyone says Maynard is a genius, I admit he writes very good lyrics and they have pretty deep meaning in them. But I was thinking that he would do something else in the band in order to be called a "genius" from so many people.

I'm not very educated on Tool, I just know/love the music a whole lot :thumb:

[misunderstood]

Hmm. I'm not too sure. Someone else can help you out on this but I think he does some guitar stuff here and there...or is it bass? Not sure. But I know he does do some other stuff besides only writing lyrics. LIke I said, I'm sure someone else can help you alot more on this subject.

[Darkness]

He does help with song writing, but more so on the older albums and live he plays any extra instruments thats are needed.

[BlindWriting]

I'm still just seeing the brain on Toolband...
Am I missing something? Or am I just a complete idiot?

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

It was different for me...

[Magicaltroll]

I'm still just seeing the brain on Toolband...
Am I missing something? Or am I just a complete idiot?
Hmm.. I saw it... I'll check again.

Nope, its different... :confused:

[BlindWriting]

Ah, THERE we are.
Well, I guess we've just seen what the Tool font/logo will be on the new album.

[Magicaltroll]

Ah, THERE we are.
Well, I guess we've just seen what the Tool font/logo will be on the new album.
I don't know about that, because of thats true, where did the brain come from from lateralus' artwork?

[BlindWriting]

The god-brain? The site, as it's been, for the past while hasn't really had anything to do with Lateralus's artwork.

But I don't know. It's late, and my Spidey-senses are tingling.

[Magicaltroll]

The god-brain? The site, as it's been, for the past while hasn't really had anything to do with Lateralus's artwork.

But I don't know. It's late, and my Spidey-senses are tingling.
:lol:
And I thought, since you said that the new logo was going to be on the new CD, that the brain was connected to Lateralus somehow...

[Darkness]

Wow I'm getting the brain again...
Edit: and now it changed!

[Darkness]

I wonder if when the new album comes out with all the new art if the dissectional will be updated or changed...

[Magicaltroll]

I wonder if when the new album comes out with all the new art if the dissectional will be updated or changed...
That would be pretty cool, but that dissectional thing is really weird...

NP- Tool- Fourty Six & 2

[Kage]

I'm getting the stupid brain still. I have yet to find the new picture.

@letmypeopleho: I figured as much about the D Dolian scale.

[Kage]

Ah, there it is. I had to press Refresh once or twice, but I got it.

That's actually pretty friggin sweet.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

But I don't know. It's late, and my Spidey-senses are tingling.

Look behind you.

:shifty:

Anyways, I don't really get the dissectional deal...Could someone tell me about it, or quote someone who posted it higher up on this page?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Ok, does anyone else know if Maynard helps out with the MUSIC (as in melody stuff, instruments, not singing) or anything like that? Because everyone says Maynard is a genius, I admit he writes very good lyrics and they have pretty deep meaning in them. But I was thinking that he would do something else in the band in order to be called a "genius" from so many people.

I'm not very educated on Tool, I just know/love the music a whole lot :thumb:

He writes a few of the riffs for some songs. No idea which ones but its been state din many interviews with the band that they all get invovled in most aspcts of each song.

And he does break out the ol' headless guitar live now and then too

[The JoZ]

Look behind you.

:shifty:

Anyways, I don't really get the dissectional deal...Could someone tell me about it, or quote someone who posted it higher up on this page?

Dissectional is simply a Tool-based artwork site.

[bassist-bmxer]

And he does break out the ol' headless guitar live now and then too
Really?? :amaze:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Yes. Yes he does.

I have pictures to prove it. Plus its on a few bootleg videos. And im pretty sure he play sit with APC for The Noose too, though since he did his infamous back-to-crowd trick when I saw them, i cant really tell if it was the headless or not.

[jamesclelland]

i've seen maynard play bass and guitar. and something else during one song. ****, i cant think of which one it was. someone help, it was the last tour with tool. He played bass on triad, and guitar? on one other song.
but with the noose, i have aMOTION and he does play guitar. that live noose video is amazing btw. i highly suggest you pick it up.

[bassist-bmxer]

pics please! :D

[Rothmans]

I finnaly seen the new header looks well better than the old it must meen something good....

[jamesclelland]

i cant steal the picture from amotion, and i saw him play bass live, so sorry man. check the official website

[clearvision]

Hmm, this update better be significant...

[Rothmans]

Hmm, this update better be significant...

Lets hope so I kinda feel anxious that there is gonna be an update about the tool album.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Maybe the update is a glimpse of the new artwork for the next record? Or maybe its just Blair wanting a change.

And kudos to bartender for the quickest modding ever with this gem

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332090

[misunderstood]

^Yeah, that was extremely quick..i was just about to post the link for this thread but i guess I was too slow.

[clearvision]

I read on mansonusa that the whole site is gonna get shifted...which would be something a band would do before a new album, APC did it...SOAD did it...Mudvayne did it...FFS Blair announce something you rambling buf00n.

[Rothmans]

You never know with him but could be he has been holding out too long.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I read on mansonusa that the whole site is gonna get shifted...which would be something a band would do before a new album, APC did it...SOAD did it...Mudvayne did it...FFS Blair announce something you rambling buf00n.

I really wish accents and impressions carried over across the internet, as that last statement was prime for ye olde english speak.

The current website never got fully completed. And Kabir's site has been in redesign forever. So im not sure if to be postive over this or not

[Rothmans]

I really wish accents and impressions carried over across the internet, as that last statement was prime for ye olde english speak.

The current website never got fully completed. And Kabir's site has been in redesign forever. So im not sure if to be postive over this or not

Yeah I think kabir is leaving it until the new album comes out and I didnt know the main website was never fully finished.

[bartman]

http://www.toolband.com/

[misunderstood]

^ Ah, you found us... :)

[Rothmans]

http://www.toolband.com/
We kinda guessed.

[clearvision]

It IS positive ajig, you pessemist :p it is something new, something we havent had for how long?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

It IS positive ajig, you pessemist :p it is something new, something we havent had for how long?

I for one, am allowed to be pessamistic. I support Forest for christ sake :p

Plus, for the moment at least, having really discovered Opeth properly, and now having DT to look forward to (cheers again to JoZ), im fien for musical needs.

[clearvision]

Nice, I'm still working my way through Nin...

I support watford, does that make me better :p / :upset:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Probably. The fact that there are as many divisons above us as below us by the way thigns are going, you've probably got a case.

Tool soothes my emotional footballing wounds.

[clearvision]

Meh, I don't know what we are gonna do, It really does depress me to go see them atm.

[Otherside]

I for one, am allowed to be pessamistic. I support Forest for christ sake :p

Plus, for the moment at least, having really discovered Opeth properly, and now having DT to look forward to (cheers again to JoZ), im fien for musical needs.


What Opeth albums you got? Haha, I've asked you this so many times XD

[SeAmoNKeY]

Im lookin at my new avater. hee hee

edit: sorry, i wont put down a useless post again. yay tool.

[clearvision]

Get off my land (Yeah ajig we really need some sort of speech thingy here)

*Loads shotgun*

DId anyone pull anything out of the Maynards B'day toolband update, I have read it abotu 5 times and am still confused about the meaning.

[JessJansen]

Does any one know or have any ideas what the new tool album will be called as regards to the new thing on the tool site?.

[clearvision]

Well I'm looking at the new graphic...I think the artist may be called tool :eek: Don't flame me if i'm wrong though plzkthx... (needs sarcasm :()

No, we have no news, except this new graphic on the main page...

[Kurrpt]

Well I'm looking at the new graphic...I think the artist may be called tool :eek: Don't flame me if i'm wrong though plzkthx... (needs sarcasm :()

No, we have no news, except this new graphic on the main page...


could u give me a link of the graphic pa pa pa please

[misunderstood]

DId anyone pull anything out of the Maynards B'day toolband update, I have read it abotu 5 times and am still confused about the meaning.


Yeah, me too...i've read it quite a few times..nothing..

[clearvision]

I hope your joking kurrpt..but it is http://toolband.com

[Kurrpt]

I hope your joking kurrpt..but it is http://toolband.com


i always went to toolshed.down.net and i didnt see it, so i was asking what site you were referring to

[clearvision]

Oh ok, yeah it's on the new toolband redirect page, where you can go to tooband, dissectional or toolarmy... Why do you go to toolshed? it is actually never updated lol

[Kurrpt]

Oh ok, yeah it's on the new toolband redirect page, where you can go to tooband, dissectional or toolarmy... Why do you go to toolshed? it is actually never updated lol


that link didnt work for me

[clearvision]

http://www.toolband.com

It should work, copied from my browser this time. Surely you know the toolband link? :lol:

[Huber]

Tha new logo is cool.

[Idiot Martyr]

It IS positive ajig, you pessemist :p it is something new, something we havent had for how long?

Don't just call him pessimistic, try and read between the lines :thumb:

I like the new design it's umm sexy :naughty:

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

you know we're desperate when we're all excited about a stupid fvcking logo. :lol:

[BlindWriting]

you know we're desperate when we're all excited about a stupid fvcking logo. :lol:
Sadly true.
But it's hopefully building up to a nice big update.

[Darkness]

Tool shed was just updated like 2 weeks ago, the reason he doesn't update often is because there hasn't been any real tool news in the past 3 years.

[misunderstood]

I just found a video of Tool peforming "Hooker With a Pen!s" back in '98. It's quite funny...Maynard is performing in some long black dress with a black curly wig (and doing some weird dance moves)...I'm not sure if this particular video has been posted on here before or not but in case it hasn't and anyone is interested:

http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0XMMNZXCYJ4HJ03GCBIQ7C94QT

[Daven]

saliva is a whole cd or is it just like a demo?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

What Opeth albums you got? Haha, I've asked you this so many times XD

Still Life and Blackwater Park

Favourite Tracks (in semi order)

Bleak
The Moor
The Drapery Falls
leper Affinity
Blackwater Park

There are more, as i cant remember most of the Still Life track titles.


DId anyone pull anything out of the Maynards B'day toolband update, I have read it abotu 5 times and am still confused about the meaning.

I think its actually only intended for MJK. Plus Blair loves talking about UFO activities

[misunderstood]

There's an update!! There's an update!! I don't know what it's about though..i'm just about to read it..

/goes to read

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Just browsing that reads unrelated rubbish to me. Ill give it a better read though

[Darkness]

Yeah its nothing tool related...

[BurtonChancellor]

It's just Blair blabbling on some more about the Da Vinci Code. *YAWN*

[Futuro]

not sure what "The code" is but im to tired to read it

[Darkness]

Yeah that sucks...we should all e-mail him a complaint that we only want tool related information on the official TOOL site...

[Rothmans]

Yeah that sucks...we should all e-mail him a complaint that we only want tool related information on the official TOOL site...
Well it could be you never know and if it was only the band the site would be pretty dead

[Darkness]

I'd rather hear about the progress of the album, like writing and recording.

[Rothmans]

I'd rather hear about the progress of the album, like writing and recording.

Well its a bit hard he probably cant go around every day and stuff.

[The JoZ]

If we all emailed him, he'd probably mock us.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Hah. Very doubtful, my friend. You know Tool. They're kind of jews sometimes.

Wow, that one went right over my head... :confused:

[ThePatient]

Well its a bit hard he probably cant go around every day and stuff.
Well, its sort of his job. Or responsibility since he's probably not being paid. Or maybe he is, I don't know how the whole "internet-announcement-updater" thing works. Either way, it would be nice to hear SOMETHING every once in a while.

[Darkness]

^ Yeah thats all I ask... the last thing I remember that was in detail of them jamming was that thing on like December 14th when we learned about "L.K"..why not another update like that?

[Huber]

Hah. Very doubtful, my friend. You know Tool. They're kind of jews sometimes.

They're kind of jews sometimes? How mature.

Edit: I'm kind of interested in that Da Vinci Code. After reading the thing on Danny's site I was a little interested.

[Huber]

How is that immature? You just took it the wrong way.

I'm kind of sensative to jew remarks. Just one of those things that kinda ticks me off. Meh, I already don't care.

[clearvision]

Would be funny to be mocked by blair, and saldy it would be a highlight of my life...

The Da vinci code is interesting, but it's difficult to seperate facts from sh!t. I've been menaing to by holy blood holy grail since christmas...hmm...must get roudn to it someday..

And that update was rather dissapointing.

[guitarist.kid]

Nobody at my school know what Tool is so they ask me! But I just don't know what to answer! Rock? Metal? :confused:

[clearvision]

Med speaks with authority, congrats on the modship :)

Yeah prog/alternative rock is the best description i think...

[BurtonChancellor]

Nobody at my school know what Tool is so they ask me! But I just don't know what to answer! Rock? Metal? :confused:
Just tell them they're "music". "Good music". Like with most good bands, it's a bit of a useless exercise to try and fit them into one specific genre.

[Kage]

I'd say they're alternative/progressive rock, although I know some people say they're metal. Personally, I don't really see many of the metal elements in their music, and think that people call them "metal", as their music can be very heavy at times, especially with the earlier stuff. Just being heavy doesn't mean you're metal though (a lot of alternative music can be heavy), so yeah...I wouldn't consider them to be metal at all really. Hard rock, yeah, but not metal.

I'm bored to death of the Da Vinci Code and everything about it, even though I enjoyed reading it, so what an update this one is.

Yes, Progressive/Alternative is a good term. Whether Rock or Metal follows it is debatable, in my opinion.

And about the Da Vinci Code, you summed it up perfectly. Yeah, it was a good read and intriguing...but, hey, it's been done to death already. I think Blair was a little late on that one.

[The JoZ]

I'd say they're alternative/progressive rock, although I know some people say they're metal. Personally, I don't really see many of the metal elements in their music, and think that people call them "metal", as their music can be very heavy at times, especially with the earlier stuff. Just being heavy doesn't mean you're metal though (a lot of alternative music can be heavy), so yeah...I wouldn't consider them to be metal at all really. Hard rock, yeah, but not metal.

I respectfully disagree.

I really think Tool's older material is more hard rock, while their newer stuff is definetly metal.

Pre-Aenima Tool sees alot of chunky riffs, palm muting, and of course that signature Tool sound (something which, IMO, defies definition). No real metal elements to their older stuff, unless you count distortion, and if you do...well that's pretty poor criteria for putting a band in a genre.

Once Aenima hit, however...their sound started getting more tinges of metal. Eulogy, for example, with it's wailing guitar solo toward the end of the song, has a very metal feel to it. H, with it's breakdown section, seems metalish to me, because it's faster than some of their normal riffs. I am torn about 46 and 2 and jimmy...I think each song has some minor metal instances, but overall, I'm not sure either of those songs could definitively be called metal.

Aenema the song, yeah I think that's pretty metal to me. Again, the main riff seems slightly faster, and the guitar solo here has that metalish quality to it, as does the interlude section with the triplets in the double bass and the guitars. Third Eye? Oh yeah, this is metal. This is probably their first 'true' progressive song...and one of their heaviest. There are many riffs in this song that I feel are too heavy, and/or too fast to simply be considered hard rock. Once again, I look toward the solos, even the slower first solo Adam does, to point out the metal-ness of this song. And the charging outro riffs, definetly metalish.

Lateralus sees them expand on their metal sound, although some of it is definetly subtle. Some could argue that songs like The Grudge and Schism are not really metal, because they are slower...but remember, tempo does not make a song metal or not metal. The Doom Metal genre by itself shows that you can have (dreadfully) slower tempos and still maintain one's metal sound. I really think the intensity of songs like The Grudge and Schism is what makes them metal, not the distortion, and not the speed at which they are played.

I don't think anyone would argue that Parabola, Ticks and Leeches, and Triad are metal...I think these are the obvious metal tracks on this album. Songs like Lateralus, and Reflection...I'm really torn about. Both tracks have plenty of intensity, but I'm not sure they are heavy/intense enough to call metal...but I don't think they are simply hard or heavy rock either. I would err on the side of metal here, but I really don't know.

So yeah. I have always called Tool progressive metal, at least when it comes to their newer stuff. Med, don't take this as me ripping on you or anything, I'm simply offering a different view :thumb:

[Darkness]

Lateralus.net (http://www.lateralus.net)

Best tool site ever.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I classfiy Tool as 'awesome'.

I hate trying to pidgeon-hole everyone. Especially when i get people trying to place Tool as new metal.

[Huber]

You know you're desperate to put things on your page when you have a link to google.

[Huber]

I classfiy Tool as 'awesome'.

I hate trying to pidgeon-hole everyone. Especially when i get people trying to place Tool as new metal.

I just call Tool "A mixture of things".

[Darkness]

You know you're desperate to put things on your page when you have a link to google.
What are you talking about?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

You know you're desperate to put things on your page when you have a link to google.

This thread used to be high up on a google searhc for tool. Its dissappeared now it seems.

[Huber]

What are you talking about?

That place had a link to google...didn't it? It took me to a pretty plain black on white page with a few links on the bottom of it's single update. One being a link to google.

[Darkness]

Oh I was just talking about the page with the lateralus pic, I have no idea what that page when you enter it is.

[Moses]

I always call their music Hard Prog Rock. Sure they might have "metal" moments in their music but most of the time it's just Prog Rock.


As for the Album Art/Image/Live shows, its all metal.

[Syncratic]

Not sure if you guys have heard yet....I just saw a rumor on the Myspace.com Tool board (yeah...reliable, I know) but the new album MAY be called 'Teleincision' and could be released around August 15th or 16th.

I hgihly doubt this, as it came from a Norwegian website. It would be cool, though.

[The JoZ]

Not sure if you guys have heard yet....I just saw a rumor on the Myspace.com Tool board (yeah...reliable, I know) but the new album MAY be called 'Teleincision' and could be released around August 15th or 16th.

I hgihly doubt this, as it came from a Norwegian website. It would be cool, though.

Hey, at this point, I'll take rumors rather than silence :cool:

[Syncratic]

Yeah....I searched the net for the title....I got the Norwegian site and and the Coheed and Cambria forums....I'll keep you posted, though.

[The JoZ]

First of all, good argument. There's quite a lot of stuff that I hadn't considered/just didn't know. I won't even pretend to be an expert on what makes metal metal, although it's obvious that you're right on some points. Doom metal can be excruciatingly slow at times, and yet it's still definitely metal. I've got a bit of a problem with metal being determined by intensity though, like what you said about Schism and The Grudge. It just seems to be like a really hard way of classifying music in general, not least because I think that some of the most intense music in existence just can't be classified as metal. Ticks And Leeches is metal, I agree, although I'm not really sure where Parabola becomes metal...it just never really struck me as metal I guess, possibly because of the heaviness issue. I guess what I'm trying (in a convoluted way) to say is that I still think they go under rock, rather than metal, even though they have metal moments, if that makes sense.

First, thanks. :cool:

Secondly, I agree its's hard.

And it does make sense. Basically, what I'm trying to say is I think they go under metal, rather than rock, even though they have rock moments. :thumb:

[clearvision]

Nice argument JoZ, a real fanboy! hehhe :p

I don't think it'd be fair classing tool with metallica and stuff, so i would question the metal tag. I think they have to go in with someone, It'd be dream theater and opeth making them prog metal...But metal???

Thanks for the rumour :)

[Otherside]

I also think their Prog Rock/Alternative. Metal just doesn't seem to fit to me. I mean, compare the bands.


Metallica - Tool: No comparison I see
Black Sabbath - Tool: Again, very little in common
Arsis - Tool: No.
Slayer - Tool: Nope :\




Dream Theater - Tool: Now, this is the thing here, Dream Theater is not always considered to be Prog Metal. Their earlier stuff is often classifed as Prog rock, their newer stuff to be Prog Metal. I find it very hard to find things in common when comparing, say, ToT and Lateralus.

Also consider, heavy does not equal metal. It is an untrue converse, Metal is always heavy, but being heavy does not mean you are metal. Atleast, that's the way I see it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

How about Pink Floyd and Tool? I think Tool is the modern day version of Pink Floyd. They are both progressive, both have amazing lyricists. Also, Gilmour and Jones are not what I would call lead guitarists, but they are both very influential. Waters and Chancellor are both good bassists, not technically, but they can write a nice bassline. I would venture to say that Tool's biggest influence is Pink Floyd.

I think Tool did a cover of one or more Pink Floyd songs. Could someone YSI those, if you have them? (I beleive they're live versions, not studio covers, like No Quarter)

Thx

[Otherside]

I have a Tool - Comfortably Numb mp3, but I'm pretty sure it's Pink Floyd. I'll upload it anyways....

[clearvision]

Meh it's not tool...

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

How about Pink Floyd and Tool? I think Tool is the modern day version of Pink Floyd. They are both progressive, both have amazing lyricists. Also, Gilmour and Jones are not what I would call lead guitarists, but they are both very influential. Waters and Chancellor are both good bassists, not technically, but they can write a nice bassline. I would venture to say that Tool's biggest influence is Pink Floyd.

I think Tool did a cover of one or more Pink Floyd songs. Could someone YSI those, if you have them? (I beleive they're live versions, not studio covers, like No Quarter)

Thx


You do know that No Quarter was a cover of the Led Zep song, right? But I'd have to disagree, the think Tool were more influenced by King Crimson and Led Zep. For Led Zep, you have to look at the darker more progressive songs they put out to make a true comparison.

I've always thought that Radiohead were the modern day Pink Floyd and Tool were the modern day Led Zep. But I can see similarities between Pink Floyd and Tool.

[Otherside]

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ZD5AIUOCF27C2985ENPEPDAGC

After listening to it again, I can say with 100% accuracy that it is not Tool. Oh well, it's still good.

[clearvision]

Meh i love radiohead, but I'm not to keen on floyd. I can see similarities, but not big ones. I think radiohead are influenced by so many different things as there sound has chopped and changed immensley. For a modern day flowd my vote stands with porcupine tree.

[Darkness]

You do know that No Quarter was a cover of the Led Zep song, right? But I'd have to disagree, the think Tool were more influenced by King Crimson and Led Zep. For Led Zep, you have to look at the darker more progressive songs they put out to make a true comparison.

I've always thought that Radiohead were the modern day Pink Floyd and Tool were the modern day Led Zep. But I can see similarities between Pink Floyd and Tool.

Tool is not a modern day led zep, their songs are totally different.

[The JoZ]

Nice argument JoZ, a real fanboy! hehhe :p

I don't think it'd be fair classing tool with metallica and stuff, so i would question the metal tag. I think they have to go in with someone, It'd be dream theater and opeth making them prog metal...But metal???




There are alot of different metal bands that sound nothing like Metallica.

Tool's metal is more intense, and atmospherically heavy, as opposed to simply "chug-ch-chug-ch-chug-chchchch-chug"

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Tool is not a modern day led zep, their songs are totally different.

well, at least you backed up your argument. :rolleyes:

Check out the more haunting and progressive songs of Led Zep, they clearly have influenced Tool.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Meh i love radiohead, but I'm not to keen on floyd. I can see similarities, but not big ones. I think radiohead are influenced by so many different things as there sound has chopped and changed immensley. For a modern day flowd my vote stands with porcupine tree.


Do you have Kid A? When I listen to that album, I think to myself Dark Side of the Moon.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You do know that No Quarter was a cover of the Led Zep song, right? But I'd have to disagree, the think Tool were more influenced by King Crimson and Led Zep. For Led Zep, you have to look at the darker more progressive songs they put out to make a true comparison.

I've always thought that Radiohead were the modern day Pink Floyd and Tool were the modern day Led Zep. But I can see similarities between Pink Floyd and Tool.

I know it's a Zep cover. I've heard it many times. Anyways, another reason where Tool is more similair to Floyd than Zep is in the song writing. Maynard and Waters wrote/write about the similair things,(philosophy, life in general, etc..) whereas most(not all) of Plant's songs were written about love, Lord of the Rings, and other things. Radiohead sounds more like Pink Floyd, but I think that if you factor in everything, Tool is the modern Pink Floyd.


To whoever said Zep clearly influenced Tool- Zep influenced every ****ing band on the radio.

[clearvision]

Kid A is my 3rd favourite album ever. DSOTM bores me :confused: slightly blasphemous i know. There are high points, Time, money, great gig. But the rest is just meh...I findKid A completely unique, but then again i do actually love it to pieces :(

[Darkness]

well, at least you backed up your argument. :rolleyes:

Check out the more haunting and progressive songs of Led Zep, they clearly have influenced Tool.

Yeah I ment to back my self up but I had to go.

Anyways I should say that I'm judging off of Zep 4 and I don't recall any of the songs being to haunting or progressive... perhaps you could tell me some? From what I hear of zep, they sound nothing really like tool, zep had more riffs and stuff, where as Tool have more chord progressions. Adam and Jimmy play completly different styles of guitar, like how Jimmy can solo really well, where as Adams strenght lies in rhtyhm playing. I guess you could kinda compare the drummers but I never really pay attention to the drums on Zep so I don't know to much about John. The bass playing is also really different, where as Tools basslines are, IMO, alot better then zeps. Comparing Maynard and Plant would be the best comparison I think, as you can see alot of Plant like stuff in Maynards vocals but there are still alot of differences here to... like how Maynard doesn't sing about lord of the rings...

But yeah, Tool definatly was influenced by them but I don't think they sound to alike. But thats my opinion ofcourse.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Zoso wouldn't be my pick of where to find Zep's darker material. Look for some of their more modern stuff that's heavier.

Bonham and Carey are both immensely talented drummers, but the comparison ends there. They use 2 totally different styles of drumming, but they both execute it very well indeed.

[Darkness]

More modern stuff like what?

[Darkness]

^ Thats what I said.

[jamesclelland]

you guys argue so much about this, does it really matter who tool was influenced by? the way i see it, if they still make music as good as every other cd they've released i'll be happy, even if it doesn't sound like zep or floyd

[Rothmans]

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ZD5AIUOCF27C2985ENPEPDAGC

After listening to it again, I can say with 100% accuracy that it is not Tool. Oh well, it's still good.

That is definitely not tool that is pink floyd no question.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

If noone ever argued about anything, what the **** would we do here? It would get old just talking about the same stuff. "wuts ur favrit song???" "MJK is sooo hawt" It would turn into a spamfest if we didn't argue

(I doubt it would get as bad as what I said about Maynard, but I'm just trying to make a point)

DoG-I'm not sure of the album name, but check out the album with Achilles' Last Stand on it. Just ask in the Zep thread if you really want to hear it.

[heavy metal kid]

How about Pink Floyd and Tool? I think Tool is the modern day version of Pink Floyd. They are both progressive, both have amazing lyricists. Also, Gilmour and Jones are not what I would call lead guitarists, but they are both very influential. Waters and Chancellor are both good bassists, not technically, but they can write a nice bassline. I would venture to say that Tool's biggest influence is Pink Floyd.

I think Tool did a cover of one or more Pink Floyd songs. Could someone YSI those, if you have them? (I beleive they're live versions, not studio covers, like No Quarter)

Thx

i would have to agree with you, i always think that pf and tool are somehow similar.

[Syncratic]

PF and Tool are pretty comparable IMO. They both have ambitious albums (Lateralus and The Wall), they both have talented musician's, and they both have intelligent and meaningful lyrics and messages.....
things you wish you could say about every band, but.....

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Zoso wouldn't be my pick of where to find Zep's darker material. Look for some of their more modern stuff that's heavier.

Bonham and Carey are both immensely talented drummers, but the comparison ends there. They use 2 totally different styles of drumming, but they both execute it very well indeed.

THANK you. I'm basing a lot of this on heaviness, but when I'm talking Led Zep, I'm NOT talking about the rhythm and blues; I'm talking more of the layered dark, progressive stuff done later. Also, when I talk about Led Zep, I am completely disregarding Robert Plant. But at times, Page's distortion would sound exactly like Adam Jones, and John Bonham actually quite frequently sounded like Danny Carey.

But I think it's fair to say that Pink Floyd was an influence because of Tool's tendency to sound trippy. I'd say it's a combination between PF and LZ, to be honest. Sorry for disregarding PF earlier.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Otherside-That version of Comfortably Numb is neither Tool nor Pink Floyd. The same guy sings the entire song,and it doesn't really sound like Gilmour or Waters. :confused: The solo is good, but it has a different kind of feel than the typical Gilmour style.

EDIT: Come to think of it, this could very well be Dream Theater. Listen to it at 6:30. Now it's definitely not Gilmour. Then, after that, listen to the guys voice..He sounds like someone from our times. (Don't ask why, he just does)

Either way, it's a kickarse version.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

If noone ever argued about anything, what the **** would we do here? It would get old just talking about the same stuff. "wuts ur favrit song???" "MJK is sooo hawt" It would turn into a spamfest if we didn't argue

(I doubt it would get as bad as what I said about Maynard, but I'm just trying to make a point)






Yeah, point well taken.

[Otherside]

Otherside-That version of Comfortably Numb is neither Tool nor Pink Floyd. The same guy sings the entire song,and it doesn't really sound like Gilmour or Waters. :confused: The solo is good, but it has a different kind of feel than the typical Gilmour style.


Hmm this is true, I didn't think it sounded like PF either, but it was the only thing I could really think of :\

[Huber]

Alright guys I have some total n00b questions for the guitarists in this thread...

I got a new guitar recently, and I want to play some Tool tunes with my friends. I'd like to get to an Adam Jones sound. I was going to get a pedal, and didn't know which pedal I should get first that would lead me in the direction of Adam's sound.
(If possible. I honestly don't know a thing about this stuff.)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Just go buy 10 random pedals and you'll get that Triad sound. :p


total n00b answer

There's lots of sites where you can find his EQ settings and stuff. do a search in the guitar forum for the soundfinder thread. It will have tons of links for you there. :thumb:

[justinb123]

so tool is a christian band never listened to em what r good ones

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

so tool is a christian band never listened to em what r good ones

:lol: The reason I laugh is that A LOT of their songs are quite anti-organized religion. So no, they aren't. They're progressive rock and border on metal. They're listed by many other sources as being metal, but on this site people mainly refer to them as heavy progressive rock.
I'll give you a song from each album, though:
"Sober" - Undertow
"46&2" - Ænima
"Lateralus" - Lateralus

There are MANY good songs by them. But those are ones that have gotten people interested.

[justinb123]

ty man ill give em a try

[Magicaltroll]

I heard Fourty Six & 2 on the radio today :eek:

[maggot4875]

:lol: The reason I laugh is that A LOT of their songs are quite anti-organized religion. So no, they aren't. They're progressive rock and border on metal. They're listed by many other sources as being metal, but on this site people mainly refer to them as heavy progressive rock.
I'll give you a song from each album, though:
"Sober" - Undertow
"46&2" - Ænima
"Lateralus" - Lateralus

There are MANY good songs by them. But those are ones that have gotten people interested.
schism is also a popular song which got me interested

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I heard Fourty Six & 2 on the radio today :eek:

The only Tool songs I've heard on the radio are Schism, Lateralus, Sober, Ænema, and Stinkfist. Mainly Schism and Sober, though.

[Arrakakaka]

The only song's on the radio from Tool that I've heard were H., Schism, and Sober.

[Futuro]

h is my favorite tool song but i have never heard it on the radio :angry:

i have heard stinkfist and parabola (that was a big hit for a while on a local station)

[Darkness]

I don't think I've heard any tool on the radio... though I don't listen to the radio... at all..

[Merkaba]

Radio: Down here(SC) I've heard Sober,Schism,H.,Eulogy,46&2,enima,Stynkfist,Parabola

[Futuro]

Radio: Down here(SC) I've heard Sober,Schism,H.,Eulogy,46&2,enima,Stynkfist,Parabola

your so lucky, im jealous :(

i have all 5 of there major realesed cds anyways but its fun to hear your favorite band on the radio :D

[Kage]

Though I do owe my Tool fandom to the radio, I'm actually somewhat glad they don't play much Tool on my radio stations.

[Kage]

Alright guys I have some total n00b questions for the guitarists in this thread...

I got a new guitar recently, and I want to play some Tool tunes with my friends. I'd like to get to an Adam Jones sound. I was going to get a pedal, and didn't know which pedal I should get first that would lead me in the direction of Adam's sound.
(If possible. I honestly don't know a thing about this stuff.)

You simply won't be able to match his sound perfectly, but you can get close enough to satisfy yourself, especially since you're not a very experienced player (or maybe you are?).

Depending on your amp and what guitar you have, you really can't go wrong with an Ibanez Tube Screamer. That or a Boss DS-1 which shouldn't cost you more than $30-40. With those and a decent amp, you should be able to tweak your sound enough to get a sound you like. I don't know about Adam's specific EQ. He uses three different types of amps simultaneously, but I'm pretty sure he uses his amp distortion as opposed to a pedal or rack effect (and Mesa Boogie amp distortion is the king of all distortions).

Now, if you have a crappy amp, you can make it a ton better for relatively cheap by loading it with Vintage 30 speakers. If you do that, you should be set.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Last night, I was driving around with a few of my buddies(and girls lmao) and the DJ was talking, but in the background I could hear Triad Thundering away. I was like "Oh shii, it's Triad" and my friends were all "Ewwy let's put on some hip hop to shrink my balls."

:upset:

Yeah, it was wierd.

[Darkness]

^ what the hell...


Anyways its kinda cool how Adam and Tom got an equal number of votes in the polls.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

^ what the hell...


Anyways its kinda cool how Adam and Tom got an equal number of votes in the polls.

Tom ended up with 33, Adam had 30. :( Adam got snipped from the competition.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Last night, I was driving around with a few of my buddies(and girls lmao) and the DJ was talking, but in the background I could hear Triad Thundering away. I was like "Oh shii, it's Triad" and my friends were all "Ewwy let's put on some hip hop to shrink my balls."

:upset:

Yeah, it was wierd.

That brings up a new question. Wtf is so great about 50 cent? He's so god**** popular and he can't rap worth his name-sake.

Anyways, yea. Unfortunately a lot of the hot gals like sh!tty hip-hop.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

^ what the hell...


Anyways its kinda cool how Adam and Tom got an equal number of votes in the polls.

Really? Yeah, that is pretty cool. Tom is probably better technically, but I'd be hard-pressed to make a decision between those two.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Though I do owe my Tool fandom to the radio, I'm actually somewhat glad they don't play much Tool on my radio stations.

I didn't like when Schism was played to death, and I don't want them to become mainstream (I'm sure they don't either). Although, sometimes I can't help but enjoy seeing them get pub.

[Huber]

Tool comes on the radio a lot here. They're normally songs like Sober and Stinkfist. They still aren't very popular around here though because people then buy there albums expecting 10 or so tracks of Sober on each album and are disappointed.

[Huber]

That brings up a new question. Wtf is so great about 50 cent? He's so god**** popular and he can't rap worth his name-sake.

Anyways, yea. Unfortunately a lot of the hot gals like sh!tty hip-hop.

I'll take you to the candy shop?
I'll let you lick my lolly pop?

You can find him in the club?

Your man 50 cent. One of the biggest tragedies in music.

[Otherside]

I'll take you to the candy shop?
I'll let you lick my lolly pop?

You can find him in the club?

Your man 50 cent. One of the biggest tragedies in music.

Rap was awesome in the early 90's. Then Eminem became famous.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Really though, I can understand Eminem's popularity, because the guy can rhyme. But 50cent is a no-talent body builder.

[Huber]

Eminem is definetly > 50 cent, but both are pretty bad.

[Otherside]

Really though, I can understand Eminem's popularity, because the guy can rhyme. But 50cent is a no-talent body builder.

His songs are boring. He sounds the same on almost all of them, and just adds a different beat.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Tool isn't really popular where I live. I get so excited when I see a car with a Tool bumper sticker. I always see this one blue car with 2 Tool stickers and a NIN window decal. I seriously want to know who this person is.

refl That reminds me, this year at one of our tennis matches I walked out of the bathroom and there was this guy with his back to me, and on the back of his shirt was the Ænima eye. I yelled out "Holy shi' a Tool fan!"

It was funny.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I'm just saying, the guy has talent and can actually rhyme. If 50 didn't look like he could bench press a house, then he'd still be a nobody.

[Otherside]

I'm just saying, the guy has talent and can actually rhyme. If 50 didn't look like he could bench press a house, then he'd still be a nobody.

Probably. NWA owns everyone else anyways.

/me hopes Illmatic doesn't read this
/me realizes that Illmatic will probably never step foot in this thread

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

refl That reminds me, this year at one of our tennis matches I walked out of the bathroom and there was this guy with his back to me, and on the back of his shirt was the Ænima eye. I yelled out "Holy shi' a Tool fan!"

It was funny.

Hmm. I have that shirt...

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I finally found a song where Jones shreds!!

Check out Cold and Ugly live off of Opiate. Around 2:45 he shreds the crap out of the fretboard. Bonus.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Probably. NWA owns everyone else anyways.

/me hopes Illmatic doesn't read this
/me realizes that Illmatic will probably never step foot in this thread

I liked Public Enemy too. Flava Flave!

Does anyone else here like Dr. Octagon? :lol:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Probably. NWA owns everyone else anyways.

/me hopes Illmatic doesn't read this
/me realizes that Illmatic will probably never step foot in this thread

Yeah. I asked him why he didn't like Tool, he said 'because they are pompous self-absorbed assholes'

Yet, he listens to rappers who sing about bitches and hoes and money and dubs. :lol:

[Otherside]

I do too.

I have the Aenima eye shirt, 3 lateralus shirts, and the Thinkman shirt, and this cool new one I found the other day.. it has a human heart on it with all the parts labeled.

new topic: Name all the tool shirts you have.
http://infinity1.com/ppic.asp?1=45934
http://infinity1.com/ppic.asp?1=41099

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Meh.. I only have one. I'll probably get another one at the next concert, that's usually where I get my band shirts.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I don't own a single Tool shirt, which is sad. I only have 2 Pink Floyd shirts, that's all. :-/

[The JoZ]

I have one Tool shirt, it's got T00L on the front, with the colorful Lateralus eye under it, and on the back has Thinkman with a bunch of Lateralus eyes in his hand and floating around him. :cool:

[Huber]

I do too.

I have the Aenima eye shirt, 3 lateralus shirts, and the Thinkman shirt, and this cool new one I found the other day.. it has a human heart on it with all the parts labeled.

new topic: Name all the tool shirts you have.

I have that heart one, and the AEnima eye one.

Off topic but I'm about to get off MX for awhile so I want to ask now. What's a good Tool guitar part besides Lateralus, The Patient, and Schism.

Edit: Not all of them, just a few.

[Otherside]

I have that heart one, and the AEnima eye one.

Off topic but I'm about to get off MX for awhile so I want to ask now. What's a good Tool guitar part besides Lateralus, The Patient, and Schism.

Edit: Not all of them, just a few.

Parabola

[Huber]

Oh yeah, thanks. Adios.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I have that heart one, and the AEnima eye one.

Off topic but I'm about to get off MX for awhile so I want to ask now. What's a good Tool guitar part besides Lateralus, The Patient, and Schism.

Edit: Not all of them, just a few.

Hush is awesome. Ticks & Leeches is fun, minus the middle section, which is boring to play. :-/

I'd go for Hush if you want a quick learn, because it has some of Jones' coolest riffs, and it's only ~3:00 long. :thumb:

[Otherside]

So, if you could have one band to tour with Tool, each with 3 hour long sets, who would it be?

Me.. Mars Volta and Tool or Pink Floyd and Tool.

[misunderstood]

The Mars Volta would be great...or NIN

[The JoZ]

omg u lyke have da same shurt as me! we r liek twinz.

Omg liek awesome :cool:

So, if you could have one band to tour with Tool, each with 3 hour long sets, who would it be?

Me.. Mars Volta and Tool or Pink Floyd and Tool.

Tool and Dream Theater, no question :cool:

[BlindWriting]

Tool and The Mars Volta, (those being my top two favorite bands,) or maybe Tool and Opeth. Either way, it would be a good prog-fest.

[heavy metal kid]

So, if you could have one band to tour with Tool, each with 3 hour long sets, who would it be?

Me.. Mars Volta and Tool or Pink Floyd and Tool.

Dream Theater,NiN or Opeth.

[Otherside]

Dream Theater,NiN or Opeth.


You! Go answer my question in the Community Thread! Now!

[mudvayne420]

sorry for a late post on the radio stations but my radio station on weekends they have 2:00 Tool, where you could request any tool song its great they played maynards dick and thats the first time i heard that and i was SO ****I ng happy. :)

[Magicaltroll]

So, if you could have one band to tour with Tool, each with 3 hour long sets, who would it be?

Me.. Mars Volta and Tool or Pink Floyd and Tool.
I'd love to see them and Meshuggah to tour again. But I would choose NIN easily.

[BlindWriting]

I'd love to see them and Meshuggah to tour again. But I would choose NIN easily.
With that combination, there just might be a chance of hearing an unreleased Tapeworm song.

[mudvayne420]

back on topic i'd choose either Mudvayne, or Dreamtheater. or both with them doin 1.5 sets with tool doin a 3 hour set.

[Huber]

I'd love to see them and Meshuggah to tour again. But I would choose NIN easily.

I'd say NIN, but not easily :(

Edit: Out of those two

But I'd love to see Tool and Primus. No real reason, they just both put on a great show.

[Magicaltroll]

With that combination, there just might be a chance of hearing an unreleased Tapeworm song.
Man, I am so pissed that Tapeworm died. That was a dream come true for me. Reznor AND Maynard?! :eek:
Passive was a great song though. I think they called it something else though... Like Vacant or something.

I'd say NIN, but not easily :(
I would (duh) because these guys are pretty much my favorite band right now. And with the new CD coming out, I'm more obsessed than usual :p

[BlindWriting]

Man, I am so pissed that Tapeworm died. That was a dream come true for me. Reznor AND Maynard?! :eek:
Passive was a great song though. I think they called it something else though... Like Vacant or something.
I have (sorry, had) a live Vacant mp3, performed by APC on a tour, on my iTunes before it was recorded with eMotive as Passive. People went nuts when they heard that they were about to hear Tapeworm.
But as much as I would have loved to hear a Maynard, Trent, AND Josh Freese project, none of them felt too great about the music, which is always a downer.

[Huber]

Josh Freese is cool, I didn't know he was part of that.

[BlindWriting]

Josh Freese is cool, I didn't know he was part of that.
Yeah, his work with A Perfect Circle has been a very major influence on my playing.

[The JoZ]

The Tapeworm song was called "Vacant", not "Passive"...

I've always known it as "Vacant"...

[BlindWriting]

The Tapeworm song was called "Vacant", not "Passive"...

I've always known it as "Vacant"...
During the Tapeworm sessions, it was called Vacant. But when APC officially recorded it for eMotive, a few lyrics in the chorus were switched around, and it became Passive. The intro was much cooler in the Vacant form, IMO.

[BlindWriting]

They actually have more material recorded, probably just in demo form, but they just ended up shelving it.

[Otherside]

I can't remember who, but there was a member here who had a very large collection of tapeworm...

[Huber]

I'd most definetly want to meet this member...

[mudvayne420]

i'l love to hear more **** from tapeworm. also, i think the best thing in the world now would be if they actually decided to realese and album.

[The JoZ]

During the Tapeworm sessions, it was called Vacant. But when APC officially recorded it for eMotive, a few lyrics in the chorus were switched around, and it became Passive. The intro was much cooler in the Vacant form, IMO.

How do you know this?

[Otherside]

Hmm.. Maybe it was SonorKen? I can't remember, but it was someone who doesn't come in here anymore.

[Huber]

Yeah, that would be an amazing record (most likely). Not to mention an amazing show.

[mudvayne420]

maybe if NIN and APC toured together they'd do a tapeworm song or vacant(original). I'd pay loads to see it.

[Huber]

Aren't the chances of Maynard continuing with APC slim?

[Huber]

Here I think.

[mudvayne420]

I think after Tools new album comes out and when there done toruing, I think they could go for at least one more album. But, i think i'm wishing too much now so i won't say anything about that

[The JoZ]

I saw an interview somewhere that said that Maynard and Billy were having too many conflicts, and that after Maynard went back to Tool after APC finished touring, APC might not continue...

I don't know the validity of it, however.

[Sonic_Immersion]

A Perfect Circle Seemed to turn Maynard into a bit of a whore.
just an observation from Emotion the DVD, im not sure.
Im most likely wrong.

I cant wait for the new album, and if maynard focuses 100% on tool it will be amazing.
Lateralus still feeds my musical hunger though.

[Huber]

My favorite album of all time is Lateralus. It will always feed my musical hunger.

[clearvision]

The user was dancing man, formerly known as Fast fingers, i have him on slsk. I can view his tapeworm stuff. But i believe none is legit so i havent downloaded any...

Nin and tool would be great.

The billy/maynard thing makes sense, why is maynard gonna wanna put his time into the project, if billy want to sing too :confused: I couldn't understand that with the new album, why even have maynard in your band if you want to sing...

There were many more people involved in tapeworm, i think manson was, and Skold may have been sniffing round. It was like a band for great industrial musicians :lol:

[BunnYzWillEAtYoU]

Aren't the chances of Maynard continuing with APC slim?

I remember reading that Billy Howerdel said APC would get back together in 2007. Its just that absolutely everyone from that band has something else going on right now.

[clearvision]

Yeah, APC is meant to be a part of many musicians lives that complete the circle that is their musical life, or something. But yeah, if i was maynard and billy wanted to sing on the new album i wouldn't bother with it :p I would much rather have a new tool album than an APC album with billy singing most songs...

[the2stranger]

things are so quiet around Tool, any news on the new album?

[clearvision]

No sir, we have a new logo on toolband

http://www.toolband.com

And there is a rumour that an august 15/16th release is planned with an album name, check the last few pages, it is there somewhere...

That is all :)

[Adam Jones is GOD]

The traffic this thread has had recently could fool anyone into thinking something big has happened.

Lets get our google standing back people!

[clearvision]

Meh i just tried searching and couldn't find us :( Do you know our standing atm?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Nope. All i know is that googling 'Official Tool' at one stage brought us up as the 12th option.

However, google 'Black Mages Guitar Tabs' :D

[clearvision]

hmmm

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/t/the_black_mages/vamo_alla_flamenco_intro_tab.htm

Is the entry i got... :p

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Aww, dammit, I slipped on that too.

My tab talk thread used to be one of the top 3 finds.

[xblackmadonnax]

maybe if NIN and APC toured together they'd do a tapeworm song or vacant(original). I'd pay loads to see it.

didn't they already tour together a few yrs back? (fragility tour?)
i dont recall any word of them doing any tapeworm stuff, which sucks.

plus, (ill try to find the article, i have it around somewhere) trent said a while back, that tapeworm is through, HOWEVER, he also added that he respects Maynard as an artist and the two remain friends and he forsees them collaborating again in the future. . . . .

hmmm

[clearvision]

Hmm i don't think tool have ever toured with nin, maybe mistaken though...They may have played lolapalooza one year :confused:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Hmm i don't think tool have ever toured with nin, maybe mistaken though...They may have played lolapalooza one year :confused:

Re read :p

[The JoZ]

Firstly, if Reznor and Maynard did like, a serious made-to-be-released recording project, I think it might very well be some of the darkest music ever recorded, or at least damn close.

Secondly, for those still waiting on more Tool bass backing tracks...I do believe I will be able to do some more on Tuesday...it's my last day of classes, and my only class of the day is at 9:30, and it ends at about 10:45, so...the rest of the day can be spent Tooling around (lolol pun) on bass :cool:

Thirdly, on the rumor that the new album might be called "Teleincision"...for some reason, that kind of disappoints me. It lacks the Tool flair, IMO...if that happens to be the new album name, I think they could've done better.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Firstly, if Reznor and Maynard did like, a serious made-to-be-released recording project, I think it might very well be some of the darkest music ever recorded, or at least damn close.

Secondly, for those still waiting on more Tool bass backing tracks...I do believe I will be able to do some more on Tuesday...it's my last day of classes, and my only class of the day is at 9:30, and it ends at about 10:45, so...the rest of the day can be spent Tooling around (lolol pun) on bass :cool:

Thirdly, on the rumor that the new album might be called "Teleincision"...for some reason, that kind of disappoints me. It lacks the Tool flair, IMO...if that happens to be the new album name, I think they could've done better.

1) Agreed. But at the same time, it culd really create quite a unique feel. Both have such variety in their work that combining the two worlds leaves a lot of avenues to explore. It would kick *** no doubt though.

2) Good to hear, i've neglected my guitar recently, thanks to an agonising trapped nerve in my wrist (which made bowling fun yesterday, left handed bowling is NOT a good idea). So a nice way to get back intothe stride is to chug along with some more bass trakcs

3) I rely on Tool album titles to give me some new words to use, and some new avenues to explore. Thats also why they're dificult to predict. Maybe they'll use one of the Ænima ones they kept in reserve?*











*this was a joke to those who lack salt

[Darkness]

Seems kinda weird for a tool album title... but it could be true I guess..