Tool

[BlindWriting]

On another note, it's good to see that this thread is very active now.
According to Seinfeld, a statement like that either leads to an awkward silence or sex.

[Kage]

:lol: Actually, I was referring to the fact that it wouldn't be hard, it would be impossible.

But I am a great singer. I definately see an usurption of Maynard's position in the near future.

[Moses]

I think thats like four pages since I posted in here today.

[BlindWriting]

Usurping? Or him quitting? Because I couldn't see the rest of the gang kicking him off. I'd wet myself if that happened.

[Huber]

I told my friends (all major Tool fans. many of them don't listen to much anything else) about the whole Meshuggah sound and the new album. They had never heard of Meshuggah, and I let them listen. They threw a fit. It sucked.

[Kage]

I'm just kidding. I can't sing at all.

[Magicaltroll]

:lol: Actually, I was referring to the fact that it wouldn't be hard, it would be impossible.

But I am a great singer. I definately see an usurption of Maynard's position in the near future.
Are you the singer in your band? I remember hearing them in the audio arena a while ago.

[Moses]

:lol: Actually, I was referring to the fact that it wouldn't be hard, it would be impossible.

But I am a great singer. I definately see an usurption of Maynard's position in the near future.

My singing style is a mix of MJK, Chad Grey, and for screams I can pretty much mimic an American Headcharge or Slipknot scream. I could also dish out a death metal scream all day. I can get that high pitched scream that MJK does in Ticks and Leeches, but only in the beginning of a session. Drinking creamer helps with that.

[Kage]

Are you the singer in your band? I remember hearing them in the audio arena a while ago.
Since there was an awkward page-change there, I'll quote my previous post:

I'm just kidding. I can't sing at all.


I told my friends (all major Tool fans. many of them don't listen to much anything else) about the whole Meshuggah sound and the new album. They had never heard of Meshuggah, and I let them listen. They threw a fit. It sucked.

Just make sure they know that we have no idea where the acutal influence will play a role.

[Huber]

Just make sure they know that we have no idea where the acutal influence will play a role.

I tried, but you don't understand. They were about to rip there Tool shirts off right then and there.

[Moses]

Usurping? Or him quitting? Because I couldn't see the rest of the gang kicking him off. I'd wet myself if that happened.
I'd just want to know who you would pick for vocals if Danny Adam and Justin were to make music without him.

[Kage]

I tried, but you don't understand. They were about to rip there Tool shirts off right then and there.
:lol: I'm quite confident they'll be singing a different tune when the album comes out.

[BlindWriting]

I told my friends (all major Tool fans. many of them don't listen to much anything else) about the whole Meshuggah sound and the new album. They had never heard of Meshuggah, and I let them listen. They threw a fit. It sucked.
It's time to put this to rest.

There has been a MAJOR misinterperetation of what Danny Carey said about the Meshuggah tour. Tool isn't going to have a death metal record with all screaming and death-style guitar parts. All that's happening is that when the band started putting together new songs, things got somewhat heavier. Maybe that means less stuff such as The Patient or, say, Disposition, but it's not going to be an album of all Ticks and Leeches'.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I tried, but you don't understand. They were about to rip there Tool shirts off right then and there.

Meh. They should know that Tool won't change their style dramatically, I'm pretty sure it'll be a subtle influence. The biggest change will likely be the heaviness.

[BlindWriting]

I'd just want to know who you would pick for vocals if Danny Adam and Justin were to make music without him.
I know what you were talking about. I was actually asking Kage.

[Kage]

It's time to put this to rest.

There has been a MAJOR misinterperetation of what Danny Carey said about the Meshuggah tour. Tool isn't going to have a death metal record with all screaming and death-style guitar parts. All that's happening is that when the band started putting together new songs, things got somewhat heavier. Maybe that means less stuff such as The Patient or, say, Disposition, but it's not going to be an album of all Ticks and Leeches'.
123.

And to be fair, the Meshuggah influence might stretch farther. Maybe there were certain aspects about Meshuggah aside from their sound that influenced, or perhaps inspired Tool. Yes, sources say this album will be heavier and slightly more complex, but this Meshuggah thing is on overkill.

[Moses]

I know what you were talking about. I was actually asking Kage.
My bad.
Postcount+

[Moses]

Well I consider Third Eye, as their best and heaviest song, so I hope thats the direction they're headed.

[BlindWriting]

My bad.
Postcount+
No prob. :D
And the whole night in this thread has been one giant poscount ++ surge for me.

[Kage]

Well I consider Third Eye, as their best and heaviest song, so I hope thats the direction they're headed.
Completely agreed. That would be amazing.

Okay, all, I'm out. This has been cool with everyone here and this thread really active. We should do this more often. (Or maybe I just miss these times).

[BlindWriting]

Later. :wave:

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Peace, Kage.

But I disagree on Third Eye. Ticks and Leeches is definitely the heaviest song of theirs.

[Huber]

Toodles

[Moses]

Peace, Kage.

But I disagree on Third Eye. Ticks and Leeches is definitely the heaviest song of theirs.
Depends on how you look at it. The vocals in Ticks an Leeches are screamed where as Third Eye has heavier instrumentation, IMO.

[misunderstood]

Just read the update on the Tool site..Happy Birthday to Maynard.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Depends on how you look at it. The vocals in Ticks an Leeches are screamed where as Third Eye has heavier instrumentation, IMO.

It's the harsh vocals and the driving force at which the song comes at you in T&L. The "prying open my third eye" parts of third eye are very heavy, but thats like 1/13 of the song.

Edit: fvck you guys, i'm gettin some sleep :wave:

[Moses]

It's the harsh vocals and the driving force at which the song comes at you in T&L. The "prying open my third eye" parts of third eye are very heavy, but thats like 1/13 of the song.

Either way Third Eye is the direction I would like them to head in.

Post# 301 I'm out for the night. BYE NIGGAS!!!

[The JoZ]

Just read the update on the Tool site..Happy Birthday to Maynard.

And me.

Yes, I share a birthday with MJK :D

[misunderstood]

Well, Happy Birthday to you too, Joz. :thumb:

[heavy metal kid]

And me.

Yes, I share a birthday with MJK :D

well happy birthday to both

[Werny]

I told my friends (all major Tool fans. many of them don't listen to much anything else) about the whole Meshuggah sound and the new album. They had never heard of Meshuggah, and I let them listen. They threw a fit. It sucked.

Don't let them listen to Fantomas then!

Seriously, how could Tool be influenced by Fantomas? All Fantomas do is a bunch of whacked out samples then seemingly random screeching and bashing of instruments.

[Huber]

Don't let them listen to Fantomas then!

Seriously, how could Tool be influenced by Fantomas? All Fantomas do is a bunch of whacked out samples then seemingly random screeching and bashing of instruments.

^^^Random

[heavy metal kid]

Don't let them listen to Fantomas then!

Seriously, how could Tool be influenced by Fantomas? All Fantomas do is a bunch of whacked out samples then seemingly random screeching and bashing of instruments.

I always tought that Tool was influenced by themselves.

[Rounder]

And me.

Yes, I share a birthday with MJK :D

Really? me to d00d!!

april 17th 1975.

oh ****..thats today im getting old :upset:

[heavy metal kid]

Really? me to d00d!!

april 17th 1975.

happy birthday then

[The JoZ]

Really? me to d00d!!

april 17th 1975.

oh ****..thats today im getting old :upset:

Heh.

1986 for me...

And like 1969 for Maynard :D

[heavy metal kid]

Heh.

1986 for me...

And like 1969 for Maynard :D

didn't realize that Maynard was that age.

[heavy metal kid]

What do they eat ? age doesn't affect them

[misunderstood]

Yeah.. Maynard's old. But not as old as Trent Reznor.. Trent's close to his 50th. :lol:

Heh, Maynard turned 41 (1964) ... Trent is 39 (he'll be 40 in exactly one month). They're close.

[The JoZ]

Heh, Maynard turned 41 (1964) ... Trent is 39 (he'll be 40 in exactly one month). They're close.

Actually, I think Maynard just turned 40...I've got a newspaper clipping on my bulliten board and it says 39...I'm pretty sure I got it from last year's paper...

But I don't remember :(

[The JoZ]

Nevermind to my post too, Maynard is indeed 41 today.

And still rocking hard :D

[heavy metal kid]

how many equipment does Danny use on his drumms?

[Rounder]

He has like 9 drums on a set. I dunno.

/doesn't know much about drums.

he has this many:

http://toolshed.down.net/pix/dannymdrumplayfast.jpg

[Huber]

how many equipment does Danny use on his drumms?

What do you mean by equipment?

[heavy metal kid]

What do you mean by equipment?

pedals, bass drumms,drumms,cymballs, i mean the whole set

To r0und3r thanks for the image

[Huber]

pedals, bass drumms,drumms,cymballs, i mean the whole set

To r0und3r thanks for the image

When you start looking for his setup stuff, ignore all the comments you might see on the way about him doing rituals and forming his setup in the shape of some religious symbol. As you can see in that picture, his kit looks normal. He just draws symbols on his drums, and has more than the average ammount of effect pads.

[Huber]

He studies Sacred Geometry types of things. Weird, but you can't argue with results.

[heavy metal kid]

Why would he draw symbols on the drums? That's just goofy.

i don't think is goofy, maybe he feel with more energy or confidence, but i don't understand the whole spiritual-mind thing.

[The JoZ]

He can have stick figures on his drums for all I care, the man is a drumming machine.

[Huber]

The man believes in some abnormal things, but so do other people. I mean, dude makes bread? Dies? Comes back? That's kinda out there when you think about it.

[Werny]

^^^Random

I'd say it was quasi-random.

[clearvision]

Maaan you guys post loads :(

To replace MJK if he leaves - Chad from Mudvayne

the rest of the stuff needs no input, I'm just hoping the texture of tools new album won't be as thick as meshuggah...

[Moses]

He can have stick figures on his drums for all I care, the man is a drumming machine.
Actually he's a very organic type of drummer. Thomas Haake is a machine. Danny Carey is a god.

[The JoZ]

Actually he's a very organic type of drummer. Thomas Haake is a machine. Danny Carey is a god.

:lol:

No need to argue the semantics.

Danny Carey is phenomenal, either way :thumb:

[Moses]

:lol:

No need to argue the semantics.

Danny Carey is phenomenal, either way :thumb:
Agreed.

[clearvision]

Does anyone speak to Ken? I wan't some collab backing tracks up in this palce :p

[Kage]

That would be awesome. I haven't seen Ken around in awhile.

[Darkness]

Ah... I missed the late night tool talk...

Nobody could replace Maynard properly!

Danny is a drum god!

Ah screw it...

[Moses]

Ah... I missed the late night tool talk...

Nobody could replace Maynard properly!

Danny is a drum god!

Ah screw it...

Yeah, we were posting like crazy. I wasn't doing anything besides posting, and I didn't even have to go the the R&M page to keep me busy.

[clearvision]

And kage has now gone from 6 posts in front of me, to 40...hmm... Just my luck though, i go out and the crazy posting starts

[Darkness]

^ Yeah I waited almost all night for something interesting to happen then I go to bed and BAM... posting mayhem.

Just watch, I'm ganna go study now and everyone will come on and start posting...

[Huber]

Okay, he's gone. We can start now.

[clearvision]

Yeah lets go :) I just got Nin's still release, it's quality. It has stripped down versions of their songs, i think tool should try and follow this, it would be cool to strip down some songs to acoustic guitar or piano, maybe have it as a bonus disc with the DVD cause we've all been patiently waiting for so long.

/not gonna happen

[misunderstood]

^ That would be great! But what are the chances... :(

[The JoZ]

I've already said I'd be glad to do bass backing tracks if someone wants them. :thumb:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I've already said I'd be glad to do bass backing tracks if someone wants them. :thumb:

Part Of Me plz. Its hard to break into that song without the bass intro part.

[The JoZ]

Part Of Me plz. Its hard to break into that song without the bass intro part.

Give me 5 minutes.

[Darkness]

Okay, he's gone. We can start now.
That hurts...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

And kage has now gone from 6 posts in front of me, to 40...hmm... Just my luck though, i go out and the crazy posting starts

Pah, you'll never catch me :p

And 123 on the SFK uploads. Thoug god knows what his gig schedule is like

[The JoZ]

Oh yeah, it may take me longer than 5 minutes. I'm playing it on my 6 string, and yeah...

Tool is much easier to play on my 4, but I don't have it on me...plus it's got the wrong strings on it :(

[Adam Jones is GOD]

No matter, im in no rush. Wont be for a while till I can put it to use with my recordings anyway, as I need to somehow record my recordings first.

You record line in, or with a mic?

[clearvision]

Excuses :p

[Darkness]

joz, I know your busy right now with part of me and only have your 6 string but if you could sometime mabye do the first 3 min of the grudge... that would be awesome.

[The JoZ]

I use a mic.

Darkness - Why only the first three minutes? I can play the whole song...

[Darkness]

That works to :D. I just didn't want to take 8:36 min of your time...

[The JoZ]

That works to :D. I just didn't want to take 8:36 min of your time...

I LOVE playing the Grudge.

But I definetly need to get my four back for that...

[Darkness]

Sounds good, definatly no rush though man...

I LOVE playing the Grudge to...

[Rounder]

Sounds good, definatly no rush though man...

I LOVE playing the Grudge to...

Me too....if you do a grudge BT i'll definately post somethin.

[The JoZ]

I should be having band practice tomorrow, so that means I can get my four string back.

I'll have to re-string it for Tool, but yeah.

I'll take requests, and do them tomorrow.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

If you taking a few requests

The Patient
Stinkfist
Jerk Off



(I would feel guity asking for loads, but I know playing tool is not a chore)

[Darkness]

What strings do you have on there now?

[clearvision]

Do you play with a click track/metronome JoZ? Would be most useful if you told us the tempo you stuck with if you do :) cheers

EDIT : I second the patient...

I would love to have sober and aenima but I'll stick with what is given :)

[The JoZ]

If you taking a few requests

The Patient
Stinkfist
Jerk Off



(I would feel guity asking for loads, but I know playing tool is not a chore)

Those songs in particular are not a chore either...

Although I will have to actually put a little effort into Jerk Off, simply because it's one of theirs I haven't actually learned yet

Edit 1: I have my bass tuned low ADGC. The strings are too thick to do DADG.

Edit 2: I have a composition program, which lets me take MIDI files of Tool songs, and play along with them, note for note, assuming the songs are done right. So I use whatever tempo the transcriber has decided on, and so far, they seem to be the correct tempos. This way, I can hear the guitar/bass/drum/vocals if added, yet it's not the real song. I can see what notes I am playing, time signatures, note values, etc...but still hear the song :cool:

[Rounder]

If you taking a few requests

The Patient
Stinkfist
Jerk Off



(I would feel guity asking for loads, but I know playing tool is not a chore)

ooooo the grudge, schism, stinkfist, or Eulogy.

[The JoZ]

So I'm doing.

Part of Me
Jerk Off
Sober
Stinkfist
Eulogy
Aenima
The Grudge
Schism

Can do, although some of them may not sound 100% like the original (Aenima, Schism)

[clearvision]

That's how i play, i learn this riffs on tooltabs. The use a midi file through Guitar pro 4, recognise the riffs and play along. After about 5 times through i can jam along to the proper mp3 for the riff-based songs.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I can play most songs on their own without backing, but some i need the track playing in some form, or at least the beat.

I tend to pick up the cool riffs I like first with tool songs, then fill in the gaps. Im the typical must-learn-everything-but-leave-rytyhm-parts-till-last guitarist.

[The JoZ]

I can play most songs on their own without backing, but some i need the track playing in some form, or at least the beat.

I tend to pick up the cool riffs I like first with tool songs, then fill in the gaps. Im the typical must-learn-everything-but-leave-rytyhm-parts-till-last guitarist.

See, I've been playing cello for years, so I learn music by reading it.

I need sheet music to learn songs. Although I did figure out the Parabola riff without it.

[Darkness]

Im the typical must-learn-everything-but-leave-rytyhm-parts-till-last guitarist.

Wow me to.

[clearvision]

I play tool stuff for my rythm playing...

I don't find the lead stuff too challenging...well i don't play it fully, like effects and everything. But I love the way adam uses dead notes and such, and his use of the Dmaj Barré, that's why i play tool most of the time.

Anyone else noticed how his solos are often similair? Example : he plays big bends on the 10/12 frets in sober and the same thing in swamp song....

[Adam Jones is GOD]

See, I've been playing cello for years, so I learn music by reading it.

I need sheet music to learn songs. Although I did figure out the Parabola riff without it.

I would kill for the oppotunity to be taught all over again, and be able to read music easily. My chance at having theory taught to me for free has gone (stupid bad high school decisions).

Self teaching is ok though I guess.

[clearvision]

I was never really 'taught theory' /says a grade 8 pianist...well that i can readily apply to guitar. I take music As level at the moment, and i took GCSE music too. But the courses deal with classical music and jazz. Any mention of a powerchord is blasphemous as a chord is meant to have 3 different notes in it. Almost like evolution to a christian :lol: . I mainly picked up the theory i apply to guitar around the net, though i think if i sat and learned the notes on the neck/how to read off sheet music, i may be able to apply some knowledge to my guitar. I have guitar lessons atm, but i don't really learn too much...

.../point of rant was to encourage you to learn theory how you want. And explain that being able to harmonize a melody using the rules of western tonal harmony isn't gonna impact your gutiar playing too much. Obviously it helps because it explains what is going on, but i play guitar using shapes and it works for me :thumb:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

My old school is noted for being one of the top music colleges in teh country though. Local bands use it for recording and everything, and people who took the courses are so much better off for it.

However, seeing as I cant go down that road now, using internet articles helps. Its annoying that most of them have drastically different approaches, sometimes conflicting explanatins to certain things (modes being the worst).

[Huber]

Depending on what I'm playing I need sheet music. Simpler things don't call for it, but some things do. For instance, the quieter part in Ticks And Leeches, and the very loud part after. Soooooooo many ghost notes.

I never use tabs. Drum tabs are evil.

[clearvision]

Meh fcuk modes. I just rock out with the Pent/harmonic minor shalpes. Using the modes is just a way of overcomplicating guitar imo. I could use them if i sat down and learned the names of the neck. But they are pretty much a waste of time i think. They are just an outdated form of scale really. The melodic/harmonic minors are more modern and more easily used. But you don't really have to worry about the extra notes and can just stick witht he pent.

/is glad this is not the guitar forum, my arse would be burnnnned by now

[Adam Jones is GOD]

/is glad this is not the guitar forum, my arse would be burnnnned by now

This is why i ask guitar questions anywher ebut guitar forum. i wasn tactual musicians to answer me, not Vai/Satch/Satriani/etc loving elitists.

[Kage]

The backing tracks are going to be awesome, it's cool that you're doing that. Can't wait to play along with The Patient, Stinkfist, and The Grudge.

Clearvision, you'll never catch me :p.

[Moses]

Meh fcuk modes. I just rock out with the Pent/harmonic minor shalpes. Using the modes is just a way of overcomplicating guitar imo. I could use them if i sat down and learned the names of the neck. But they are pretty much a waste of time i think. They are just an outdated form of scale really. The melodic/harmonic minors are more modern and more easily used. But you don't really have to worry about the extra notes and can just stick witht he pent.

/is glad this is not the guitar forum, my arse would be burnnnned by now

It's true that modes do overcomplicate it, but in jazz they are used 90% of the time. I've been playing classical piano since I was five, and I got into jazz last year and it was weird because I never had to improvise before that. Luckily we're talking about Tool.

[clearvision]

That maybe true Kage, but only cause you spam this place up and i don't :p

/biterness

Where were you earlier :upset: i wanted the still mp3's, nm i found em now. Can you answer my post in the with teeth thread thnx :)

Modes are only used in jazz to give things that clashing sound associated with some modes, but jazz is waaay to technical. My theory is stick to the pentatonic, and if it needs a harmonic/melodic minor or blues not here or there throw it in. I haven't actually learned how to play the major scale on guitar :lol: I just use my Minor shapes...

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yesterday, I finally took the plunge and purchased Opiate. Man, so far, it's almost as amazing as their other material that I've heard. (Ænima and Lateralus) Hush has a few sweet riffs, Part of Me has a nice drumline. I'm only half way through listening to it, so I'll have more comments in 15 minutes.

I haven't posted in here for a while. How goes it, fools?

[Moses]

That maybe true Kage, but only cause you spam this place up and i don't :p

/biterness

Where were you earlier :upset: i wanted the still mp3's, nm i found em now. Can you answer my post in the with teeth thread thnx :)

Modes are only used in jazz to give things that clashing sound associated with some modes, but jazz is waaay to technical. My theory is stick to the pentatonic, and if it needs a harmonic/melodic minor or blues not here or there throw it in. I haven't actually learned how to play the major scale on guitar :lol: I just use my Minor shapes...

Actually jazz gets easier with time. Also it's extra satisfying when you pump out a god-like solo.

Eventually, as you progress you'll want to move away from the shapes to create more interesting licks. Also chromatics are fun. :thumb:

[the2stranger]

hey fool, I haven't posted in a long time too, seven pages back or so, has my last post :p
but you can recommend the opiate album?
haven't checked it out, Ive seen the clip form '' hush' though.

EDIT: to Jake

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Opiate is a solid little collection of songs. Nothing ground breaking, but it shows you the root of the too machine, and how their styles have improved.

Plus its funny to laugh at young MJK voice in the live tracks

[the2stranger]

haha, sounds nice
I'll check it out.

but it's always nice when artists grow over the years :thumb:

[clearvision]

I reccomend the opiate album :) It has some good songs on there, cold an ugly is magic (to the stranger). I'd have thought you'd have bought undertow first though..(to Jake)

I do use chromatics and stuff when my ear wants me to play them. But it's always the minor shapes for a building block, none of this today i have to play in aeolian mode because the key change goes form this to this to this...etc

[Moses]

Opiate is a solid little collection of songs. Nothing ground breaking, but it shows you the root of the too machine, and how their styles have improved.

Plus its funny to laugh at young MJK voice in the live tracks
It sounds like a totally different band.

[the2stranger]

I have the giving birth to a stone album by peach ( with Justin), but the bass just let's you know it's him though.
I love Justin's bass sound, so well flowing

[Moses]

I reccomend the opiate album :) It has some good songs on there, cold an ugly is magic (to the stranger). I'd have thought you'd have bought undertow first though..(to Jake)

I do use chromatics and stuff when my ear wants me to play them. But it's always the minor shapes for a building block, none of this today i have to play in aeolian mode because the key change goes form this to this to this...etc
Aeolian is the same as the minor scale.

I've been being a bit of a smartass lately, so if I'm getting on your nerves tell me.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I've had this thought in my head for a while, but I never posted about it. Me and Med were just talking about Ænima on msn. I came up with an explanation of why Tool named it Ænima, and then spelled the title track differently.

/copy pastes convo

well, I have actually been thinking about the tracklist for it. I think they planned it this way: You know how Ænima/Ænema is a contraction between Anima(The spirit) and Enema(The cleanser) Ænima is the album(The spirt) and the song Ænema is the cleanser. Look at the songs after that. Adam Jones said that they put Negative ions in there because it is the 'feel good song' on the album.
<Dr. Jake Destructo> says:
Then, Third Eye is a resolution song(prying open my third eye..I have missed you so much, etc..)

What do you guys think?

[clearvision]

The peach album is quality, gotta love spasm, and the cover of catfood is most amusing. Meh i don't think of it as a minor scale, and it was the first mode that came to my head :( maan it's like being in the guitar forum.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Pretty much what i think, and what Tool have stated in the past. The track/album thing is always confused by people though

Edit: Get out the way clearvision! ^^

[Moses]

The peach album is quality, gotta love spasm, and the cover of catfood is most amusing. Meh i don't think of it as a minor scale, and it was the first mode that came to my head :( maan it's like being in the guitar forum.
I don't go there, like ever.

[clearvision]

I'm still trying to catch Kage :(

The Aenima idea seems fair enough to me, specailly with all the bad shizz going on beforehand desenzitization, MJK's childhood troubles, the sellout message in hooker..., whatever push!ts about... yeah seems cool to me :)

That gets me thinking, what the hell is push!t about?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh, here I thought I came up with it on my own. :(

[Moses]

I'm still trying to catch Kage :(

The Aenima idea seems fair enough to me, specailly with all the bad shizz going on beforehand desenzitization, MJK's childhood troubles, the sellout message in hooker..., whatever push!ts about... yeah seems cool to me :)

That gets me thinking, what the hell is push!t about?
I've gathered that it could be metaphorically being backed into a corner, and then lashing out (the hands around your throat part).

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Push1t gives me the impression of a a relationship break up of mutual consent. One where both sides are negatively effected by each other, and realise the only way to continue is seperate

Ok, maybe that's just my personal interpretation based on personal feelings towards the song. But that's how I see it.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Oh, here I thought I came up with it on my own. :(

Its fair to say that everything thought up about Tool has already been though somewhere else. But thats doesnt make it any less worth it.

Good to see you're on a good mind wavelength. And that Med is keeping it up too

[Moses]

Push1t gives me the impression of a a relationship break up of mutual consent. One where both sides are negatively effected by each other, and realise the only way to continue is seperate

Ok, maybe that's just my personal interpretation based on personal feelings towards the song. But that's how I see it.
I never read the lyrics so I could be wrong based only on what I've heard.

[clearvision]

Does it relate to H. ? I always thought that was about a relationship 'I am too connected to you, slip away, fade away. Taste the way i still feel you, touching me, changing me.' Sounds to me like he's had a relationship, but still needs to deal with the person in life, and it hurts. But he uses 'his eyes' instead of your or her... :confused:

meh that was my interp of H, and i was kind of on those lines with push!t, liek he was in a relationship, had a way of getting out, but the fact that the other half still says they love him and he likes the action 'alive when your touching me...' adn the infant mixed up in there somwehre...

But can't get my head around 'staring down the hole again..' i can't really find anythign that can be a metaphor for in a relationship...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Hole - Void. The emptyness of feelings between each ohter. In other words, a loveless relationship that isnt benefiting anyone and has long lost meaning or purpose. Which could then tie in with a drug theme

Late night thinking is great, oxygen to brain, i could talk crap for ages

[Moses]

Does it relate to H. ? I always thought that was about a relationship 'I am too connected to you, slip away, fade away. Taste the way i still feel you, touching me, changing me.' Sounds to me like he's had a relationship, but still needs to deal with the person in life, and it hurts. But he uses 'his eyes' instead of your or her... :confused:

meh that was my interp of H, and i was kind of on those lines with push!t but couldn't get my head around 'staring down the hole again..' i can't really find anythign that can be a metaphor for in a relationship...
I guess H. could be about courtly love.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I guess H. could be about courtly love.

For 1/2 second then I read Courtney Love, and was about to go insane evil over such a reference

[White Goodman]

I think it is fitting for me to post my first post on my favorite band's thread. :thumb:

I had never really thought about H. and Push!t being connected but seems like they could mean about the same thing.

[clearvision]

Late night thinking is great, oxygen to brain, i could talk crap for ages

Amen, it is great. 'Cept when youg et shiz on your mind and can't sleep :( The whole Hole (hehehe) thing is kinda strange though because he says there is still love in the relationship and physical stuff, it's just the fact he's getting sh!t pushed on him that he wants out, and he can see an exit...He's probably held from going through the gap by love, leaving me still confused on the hole thing. (hehehe)

[Moses]

Hole - Void. The emptyness of feelings between each ohter. In other words, a loveless relationship that isnt benefiting anyone and has long lost meaning or purpose. Which could then tie in with a drug theme

Late night thinking is great, oxygen to brain, i could talk crap for ages
Last night this thread was crackin fasho.

[Moses]

For 1/2 second then I read Courtney Love, and was about to go insane evil over such a reference
HAHAHAHA :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Huber]

I think it is fitting for me to post my first post on my favorite band's thread. :thumb:

I had never really thought about H. and Push!t being connected but seems like they could mean about the same thing.

Welcome aboard.

I've never read the lyrics for H. I will someday I guess.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Last night this thread was crackin fasho.

And I was too busy having a life to participate dammit.

Im going to have to look at Pushits lyrics again. My views on that though are biased to personal experiences, and as we know, working out MJK's original intentions is like traversing a minefield with no legs

[Moses]

I think, lyrically and philosophically Aenima was thier best album so far. Hopefully the new one will have as much "meat on the bone" as Aenima.

[clearvision]

Well i don't think anyones ever sniffing near a true meaning to these personal songs...It's only songs like the grudge and stinkfist that can be interpreted well...

[White Goodman]

I usually read the lyrics at songmeanings.net and post what I think the song means. I don't post there anymore because people think its cool to start arguements over what they think the lyrics should read :angry: . Meh, just an idea for a place to read lyrics without getting 500 pop-ups.

[clearvision]

http://toolshed.down.net is the place for toll lyrics, straight from MJK's hands...

[KillerShears]

In my opinion, Tool gets better with every album, and has yet to show a sign of sell-outness..oh, it'll happen someday...The whole involvedness with politics scares me on Maynard's part...I don't have a political bias, but I hate lyrics about politics.

[Moses]

And the FAQ. You're not a Tool fan until you've read the FAQ. It's filled with SO much info.
I've read it.

[White Goodman]

The political motive behind Emotive is the main reason I don't own that album. It was an original idea that was worth a try, but I just don't like the idea of Maynard singing about politics. Maybe it's just me.

edit: I don't think Tool will sell out, I just don't think it is possible for such a great band to sell out.

[Moses]

The political motive behind Emotive is the main reason I don't own that album. It was an original idea that was worth a try, but I just don't like the idea of Maynard singing about politics. Maybe it's just me.
I just didn't get attached to the music.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

And the FAQ. You're not a Tool fan until you've read the FAQ. It's filled with SO much info.

I gyou read it and knew everything you read, you are an even bigger tool fan than anyone in this thread.


Plus you need to get out more

[White Goodman]

well the political motive and the fact that A Perfect Circle kind of butchered up Led's "When the Levee Breaks" are the main reasons i didn't buy Emotive. When I heard their version of that song, I just wanted to cry because I thought A Perfect Circle could surely do better than that.

[Moses]

well the political motive and the fact that A Perfect Circle kind of butchered up Led's "When the Levee Breaks" are the main reasons i didn't buy Emotive. When I heard their version of that song, I just wanted to cry because I thought A Perfect Circle could surely do better than that.
I liked Mer de Noms, but my complaint was the lack of originality, I guess. I haven't actually listened to it that much though.

[clearvision]

I don't mind when the levee breask, there arem more annoying songs on the album...

Im off to bed, night thread..

[White Goodman]

I love Mer De Noms and Thirteenth Step but I hated Emotive with a passion. Doing crappy covers of classic songs is an original idea, but I think they should stray away from that.

[opeth_oasis]

I'd just like to know what vocalist, if any, could fill the shoes of MJK.

I think Lajon of Sevendust would do okay at it. Haha it'd be funny if billy corgan replaced maynard hahaha how weird would that sound?

[Moses]

I think Lajon of Sevendust would do okay at it. Haha it'd be funny if billy corgan replaced maynard hahaha how weird would that sound?
Wow, I forgot about Lajon. But Billy Corgan?....... EWW.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

songmeanings.net is one of the worst sites around for anything like an accurate interpretation of what lyrics are all about. I've been there a few times, and it's been useless for most of them. I hated eMotive, and thought it was one of the most disappointing albums I've ever heard. Although the over politicisation of it annoyed me a bit, the fact that the music wasn't any good was what really got me about it, but there we go...I wasn't wild on the idea of a covers album anyway.

I should force everyone to finish rants against that album with the sentence "......but at least passive was good".

But yes, terrible is agreed again. For both parties in question in your comment

[Moses]

I hated eMotive, and thought it was one of the most disappointing albums I've ever heard. Although the over politicisation of it annoyed me a bit, the fact that the music wasn't any good was what really got me about it, but there we go...I wasn't wild on the idea of a covers album anyway.
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[opeth_oasis]

songmeanings.net is one of the worst sites around for anything like an accurate interpretation of what lyrics are all about. I've been there a few times, and it's been useless for most of them. I hated eMotive, and thought it was one of the most disappointing albums I've ever heard. Although the over politicisation of it annoyed me a bit, the fact that the music wasn't any good was what really got me about it, but there we go...I wasn't wild on the idea of a covers album anyway.

Yeah i hate songmeanings, they relate every single tool song to be about religion, which most are not about. The only song i like on eMOTIVE would be passive, and sometimes i listen to imagine.

[White Goodman]

I should force everyone to finish rants against that album with the sentence "......but at least passive was good".

But yes, terrible is agreed again. For both parties in question in your comment

Agreed, Passive was the one good song on that album, not that it comes close to any of their other work though.

[White Goodman]

Yeah i hate songmeanings, they relate every single tool song to be about religion, which most are not about. The only song i like on eMOTIVE would be passive, and sometimes i listen to imagine.

They think every Tool song is about religion or anal sex. The anal sex part got very annoying after reading comments on some of Tool's instrumental work. How do you get anal sex out of Triad?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

passive isnt an original APC song 9for anyone who didnt already know). It was a track from the Tapeworm project which was about to vanish into the land of neverrealsedhell (like the Mogwai-Deftones joint song :upset: X1000000). That is, until APC took it, covered it and finally allowed the public's ears to sample it

[White Goodman]

The Tapeworm song was titled "Vacant". As was APC's live version of it. It's pretty much the same thing as Passive, except Passive has some minor lyrical changes and isn't quite as "heavy" if you know what I mean.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

The Tapeworm song was titled "Vacant". As was APC's live version of it. It's pretty much the same thing as Passive, except Passive has some minor lyrical changes and isn't quite as "heavy" if you know what I mean.

Yeah, although they gave the song life, they still managed to f**k it up a bit.

[opeth_oasis]

songfacts isnt much better

[Moses]

I think Emotive was probably put together in a matter of minutes. It just seems like somthing MJK did while he was bored one day.

If not that, then it sounds very forced.

[opeth_oasis]

passive isnt an original APC song 9for anyone who didnt already know). It was a track from the Tapeworm project which was about to vanish into the land of neverrealsedhell (like the Mogwai-Deftones joint song :upset: X1000000). That is, until APC took it, covered it and finally allowed the public's ears to sample it

The whole album is covers isnt it? Im not sure i havent bothered looking up anything about this album.

[Huber]

I didn't think Emotive was that bad, but I guess a lot of people hated it.

[opeth_oasis]

emotive had its moments i guess........ but its no thirteenth step

[White Goodman]

The whole album is covers isnt it? Im not sure i havent bothered looking up anything about this album.

Yeah, I think so. Except for Counting Bodies Like Sheep to the Rhythm of the War Drums, that is a horrible version of another A pefect song, Pet.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

The whole album is covers isnt it? Im not sure i havent bothered looking up anything about this album.

I think its fair to say there is no completely original band wrote material on that album.

[opeth_oasis]

yeah i hate that song, but pet is really good. Thirteenth Step is my favourite APC album

[White Goodman]

Pet is my favorite APC song. It's just such a shame they had to f**k it up.

I bought the DVD aMOTION the other day. The DVD was pretty good i guess. But the cd that came with it, wow it was almost as bad as eMotive. How do you make remixes to APC songs? Remixes?

[opeth_oasis]

ive herd a judith remix, it was terrible

[Huber]

Pet is my favorite APC song. It's just such a shame they had to f**k it up.

I bought the DVD aMOTION the other day. The DVD was pretty good i guess. But the cd that came with it, wow it was almost as bad as eMotive. How do you make remixes to APC songs? Remixes?

You mix them, again.

/rimshot

I was gunna buy that DVD, but something told me not too. I got a Primus one instead. I'll get aMotive next time. Give it a spin.

[White Goodman]

all the aMOTION DVD is a bunch of music videos and a few live performances. It also had some Bikini Bandit shorts on it. :confused: I really have no clue what those shorts were about. But if you like the music videos then I recommend it.

edit: It does have some MJK commentary on it, which I thought was interesting.

[opeth_oasis]

i dont see the point in any cover albums, IMO it just shows you've run out of ideas.

[Moses]

I think they just kinda whipped emotive/amotion together without thinking. It's half-assed if you ask me.
Thats kinda what I said before.

[White Goodman]

The occasional live cover I have no problem with, AKA Diary of a Lovesong-APC or No Quarter-Tool. But I agree, an entire album dedicated to cover songs is a terrible idea.

[opeth_oasis]

oh yeah live covers are fine, most of them anyway

[Moses]

New subject.

What does everyone think what Tool would be like if Paul never left?

[misunderstood]

eMOTIVE was an album that was pretty much rushed. MJK said it himself. I believe their intentions were to bring out a completely original album but when their record label gave them a deadline they decided to go with a cover album. I have it. I've listened to it twice maybe three times. It takes a while to grow on ya, I guess.

sorry, my post came out after the "new topic" one above..

[Huber]

New subject.

What does everyone think what Tool would be like if Paul never left?

Not knowing much about Paul, or about bass, I don't have the slightest clue.

[opeth_oasis]

hmm good question. I dont think Lateralus would be the same without Justin.

[Moses]

All I know is that he had a more pounding type of tone, and he left the band because he wanted a more progressive style or somthing.

[White Goodman]

that's a good question. Honestly I think the current band would completely different. When Paul was there, the bass was more prominent, which is not a bad thing since I play bass, but in an album like Lateralus I don't think the bass needed to stand out as much.

[Moses]

that's a good question. Honestly I think the current band would completely different. When Paul was there, the bass was more prominent, which is not a bad thing since I play bass, but in an album like Lateralus I don't think the bass needed to stand out as much.
Actually you can hear the bass really well in Lateralus. Just listen to Schism. The only thing is that Paul had a more pounding sound, while Justin's sound is a little bit more polished and clean.

[opeth_oasis]

hey, when the levee breaks aint bad (pulled eMOTIVE out of drawer)

[handicap$]

tool i never really liked but after i heard them a couple times there a great band

[White Goodman]

Actually you can hear the bass really well in Lateralus. Just listen to Schism. The only thing is that Paul had a more pounding sound, while Justin's sound is a little bit more polished and clean.

Schism does has prominent bass. I guess i meant that songs on Undertow had more of a pounding sound, not prominent sound, because Tool is a band where the bass is well heard. Sorry for the mix-up.

[opeth_oasis]

that's a good question. Honestly I think the current band would completely different. When Paul was there, the bass was more prominent, which is not a bad thing since I play bass, but in an album like Lateralus I don't think the bass needed to stand out as much.

The bass in the grudge stands out, same with schism.

[Huber]

How could you all go this long without mentioning the stand out bass in Lateralus?

[Moses]

How could you all go this long without mentioning the stand out bass in Lateralus?
Well the bass stands out in almost all of Tool.

[Futuro]

the bass playing on Ænima and lateralus were better IMO just listen to how fast he hammers in schism and in H.

[Moses]

the bass playing on Ænima and lateralus were better IMO just listen to how fast he hammers in schism and in H.
He doesn't hammer he uses a pick.

[Moses]

the bass playing on Ænima and lateralus were better IMO just listen to how fast he hammers in schism and in H.
He doesn't hammer he uses a pick. And I think you meant slap/pull.

[Huber]

Well the bass stands out in almost all of Tool.

Just IMO when I think standout bass on Lateralus, the title title track is second on the list, only to The Grudge.

[White Goodman]

My playing style is more like Paul's I guess. I am more of the hammer-type, no pick.

[The JoZ]

He doesn't hammer he uses a pick. And I think you meant slap/pull.

The triplet riff in Schism is a hammer on.

[Futuro]

there used to be a website were you could see him do the hammer ons and pull offs

[Moses]

I was thinking that he might have gotten slap and hammer mixed up because he didn't say hammer on.

[omgwtfboogie]

The ending part of "Lateralus" the song has that trippy bass slide thing, it's awesome....

Justin > Paul

[White Goodman]

does anyone have Tool's cover of Kryuss's Demon Cleaner. It's the only cover I have been unable to find. Thanks. :)

[opeth_oasis]

im trying to download demon cleaner now, but it aint working

[Kage]

The ending part of "Lateralus" the song has that trippy bass slide thing, it's awesome....

Justin > Paul

Agreed.

[BlindWriting]

hey, when the levee breaks aint bad (pulled eMOTIVE out of drawer)
Their Levee cover was the only thing I really liked about Emotive.

[Moses]

The ending part of "Lateralus" the song has that trippy bass slide thing, it's awesome....

Justin > Paul
Well I don't know what Pauls playing is like nowadays but I'm ready to agree with you on that.

[SeAmoNKeY]

ive searched through the thread and found nothing about this so.....
Is anyone here a member of toolarmy.com (aka the collective unconscious). If so, would you recomend it, what kind of stuff do they offer to members?

[misunderstood]

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02U7MPUVG3F5P17CME1WVXQ20N

There ya go...Tool doing a live cover of "Demon Cleaner".

[heavy metal kid]

Who plays bass on Undertow? ' cause i like some of the basslines of that album.

[Darkness]

^ Paul does.

There ya go...Tool doing a live cover of "Demon Cleaner".

Video or Audio?

[misunderstood]

^^ Paul D'amour

Oops..a bit late.

Video or Audio?

audio.

[heavy metal kid]

^ Paul does.

it a shame that Paul gets overshadowed by Justin, 'cause his a great bassplayer.

[Darkness]

^ yeah he wasn't bad at all... its just Justin does alot more things rather then playing heavy pounding riffs.

[Kage]

Paul was good, but Justin's lines and sound are ten times better, more varied, and have a bigger contribution to the band in my opinion.

[The JoZ]

Paul was good at laying down thick bass, yes, but he was almost like a one-trick pony...he played heavy lines that were not always in line with what Adam was doing, but usually were.

Justin is far more experimental, and often does something totally different from Adam.

[heavy metal kid]

i never seen a live perfomerance of tool, how does justin plays the stuff that paul used to play?

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

paul had a good sound and was extremely heavy... but i'd agree with you on experimentation, justin does a lot more with that

[Rounder]

i never seen a live perfomerance of tool, how does justin plays the stuff that paul used to play?

Ive seen them about 5 times, and as far as I know Justin has always treated the work Paul did with respect, and plays the basslines basically the same way as the album. Im sure there are a few things different, but none that I saw offhand.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I still can't get over how buttery smooth Justin's tone is.

Question- On Jimmy, there's a section in the middle where it's either Justin using distortion, or Jone's using an octave pedal. Just listen to it, and you'll know what I'm talking about. Is it Jone's or Chancellor?

[The JoZ]

I still can't get over how buttery smooth Justin's tone is.

Question- On Jimmy, there's a section in the middle where it's either Justin using distortion, or Jone's using an octave pedal. Just listen to it, and you'll know what I'm talking about. Is it Jone's or Chancellor?

What time in the song?

[The JoZ]

If you mean about 2:41 or so into jimmy...

I am pretty sure the faster running line is Justin, with distortion.

Adam is just playing a few D chords.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah. It's at 2:41 during Jimmy, right before he goes into that clean chorus part. Thanks for the help. It seems like whenever I have questions about Justin, you know what's going on. :thumb:

invisirep++

[The JoZ]

Yeah. It's at 2:41 during Jimmy, right before he goes into that clean chorus part. Thanks for the help. It seems like whenever I have questions about Justin, you know what's going on. :thumb:

invisirep++

I consider myself somewhat of a Tool bass guru :cool:

[iceman3019]

i don't know if i can agree on all the "bashing" going on over paul d'amour. i personally think that he's as good as justin chancellor. why? his lines on "intolerance" and "sober" are (in my opinion) pretty "experimental" or what not. and his job in "flood" is comaparble to justin in "forty six & 2." but all this crap is just my opinion, and flame me if you want . . .

[Rounder]

i don't know if i can agree on all the "bashing" going on over paul d'amour. i personally think that he's as good as justin chancellor. why? his lines on "intolerance" and "sober" are (in my opinion) pretty "experimental" or what not. and his job in "flood" is comaparble to justin in "forty six & 2." but all this crap is just my opinion, and flame me if you want . . .

I agree...But I think justin helped bring the band to a new level. IMO, the foundation of Tool songs are the bass guitar and drums, and Danney said he had to basically develop a new style when Justin came along. I like Paul's playing for sure, but I don't regret that he left when he did. Enima would have never sounded the same without justin, although there are still some paul influences there.

[Merkaba]

I still can't get over how buttery smooth Justin's tone is.

:lol: :thumb:

Aenima is a classic album... I listen to it everyday. And stinkfist is almost perfect for working the abs out at the gym. Heehee

[misunderstood]

Ok, I'm gonna get off topic for a bit. I was looking at the cd booklet in the album Opiate and noticed the four pictures at every corner of the paper. I was just wondering if any of you knew who is who (assuming it is the band members, of course). There are interesting things in there...Heh.

[the2stranger]

a lot of tool albums have the weird art stuff
It took me sometime to notice it say's 'God' on the lateralus booklet

[hundurinn]

Deleted, sorry for that.

[the2stranger]

spam in official threads, is not a good Idea, n00b

[hundurinn]

I do realise that. I'm in school atm and I was away while my class mates ruined everything.

[the2stranger]

oh , alright

I forgive you :p

welcome to MX!

[hundurinn]

Thanks. I must add that Tool is my favorite band. I can't wait for their new cd :D

[Moses]

I agree...But I think justin helped bring the band to a new level. IMO, the foundation of Tool songs are the bass guitar and drums, and Danney said he had to basically develop a new style when Justin came along. I like Paul's playing for sure, but I don't regret that he left when he did. Enima would have never sounded the same without justin, although there are still some paul influences there.
The reason that Aenima has a few Paul influences is because he wrote some stuff on that album before he left.

I think Paul really would have helped them live in the early days. The pounding bass would have gotten people started, and after the show it would have left a lasting impression on the crowd.

[The JoZ]

You know, I'd just like to point out, nowhere in anything I've said have I been bashing Paul at all.

Paul was a good bassist, and he created some good, slightly unusual basslines at times...including one of the most recognizable riffs ever in "Sober".

But I really think Justin has brought alot more to the table in terms of his abilities and basslines. This doesn't mean Paul didn't make any contributions while he was there, but...I mean, you can compare them side-by-side, and I think one will see Justin is the better bassist...or, if nothing else, at least more experimental.

[fatbandit]

Okay, I don't know how much this has been asked (and answered), so please don't greet me with a 'go away, n00b, its been done before', but whatever happened with the whole Maynard finding God thing? I was suspicious to say the least, especially knowing Tool's penchant for being strange and messing with the fans, though with its close proximity to April Fool's day, and with something similar happening with Head in Korn, I wasn't certain. So I ask. What came of it? Was it true? I never really followed it up. Or is it another one of those 'Bob Rock left Metallica' stories?

Cheers!

[jamesclelland]

i cant believe people actually believed maynard found god. that was the most rediculus thing i have ever heard. have you guys ever read the lyrics to these songs? they clearly show him as a pagan(almost).

if anyone is interested, i can put a couple of songs from the tool cover show up, just from my set though. let me know which you want but be patient, i havent got the video back yet. we did: intolerance, fortysix and two, swamp song, cold and ugly, stinkfist, and sober. sorry to bring it up again, but it was the most fun i've ever had (playing that show)

[fatbandit]

Psh, I take it he didn't become a Christian then? :lol:

That's all good then.

[The JoZ]

Alright, here's a question to those who wanted Tool bass tracks from me.

Do you want drums with it too, or just bass? I can upload MIDI drum tracks with my bass playing if you'd like.

[Rothmans]

Alright, here's a question to those who wanted Tool bass tracks from me.

Do you want drums with it too, or just bass? I can upload MIDI drum tracks with my bass playing if you'd like.
Drums if possible and it wont take too much trouble

(sorry if I dont have a say)

[The JoZ]

No, it would take literally zero effort to do drums.

I'll do a couple of tracks here in a minute...

[Rothmans]

No, it would take literally zero effort to do drums.

I'll do a couple of tracks here in a minute...

Deadly thank's so much.

[clearvision]

It doesn't look like ken will show so drums are needed, top man JoZ!!!

[siva_chair]

They shall help greatly JoZ. Much thanks. :thumb:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

It doesn't look like ken will show so drums are needed, top man JoZ!!!

Time to start spam linking R&M. If we post enoguh ban worthy material in a breadcrumb style, he might give some input on such a deal.

That, and band the thread.

[clearvision]

You can do it, I'll just watch :p

[The JoZ]

Please bear in mind, these are MIDI drum tracks...I'm not really doing drums...I'm not Danny, :lol:

But you'll at least have a rhythm behind the bass.

[siva_chair]

Ok, I have a few questions I am hoping you great folks from the Tool thread can help me with:

1) Does anyone know how Adam records his tone in the studio? Does he mic his live setup or what?

2) How accurate are the tabs on Tooltabs?

3) Does anyone know exactly what Adam's live setup is?

Thanks.

[siva_chair]

Please bear in mind, these are MIDI drum tracks...I'm not really doing drums...I'm not Danny, :lol:

But you'll at least have a rhythm behind the bass.

If you were, I would have to find you and kidnap you.

[clearvision]

1) Probably line in, I can't see him using a mic...

2) very accurate

3) Adam does :), and maybe his roadie...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

1) He has done both in the past. usually for the more straightforward songs he mics up, but others he plays through some weird recording devices, then chops the sound up (DIe Eier Von Satan being the most notible). However, i can neither confirm nor deny this

2) They sound accurate enough to be like the tool tracks for us lower budget guitarists. But I question some parts for ease of playing/correctness

3) It changes so much, there are only a few consistents.

[siva_chair]

1) Probably line in, I can't see him using a mic...

Kinda what I thought.

2) very accurate

Good to know. :thumb:

3) Adam does :), and maybe his roadie...

Yeah. I know he's got a Diezel amp (and I think a Mesa and a Marshall, right?) and sets them up kinda weird, but I wasn't sure if anyone knew on here.

[The JoZ]

Tooltabs probably have the most accurate tabs, although I question some of them every now and then.

[clearvision]

Adam's set up is immensley big and compicated, he has loads of pedals. We have a link to a site that kinda has loads of pedals they think he uses, search the thread to find it.

I don't think i ahev found an innacurate tab on tool tabs. I question the Aenima solo, and so play it the way i think it sounds. But other than that they are cool.

I don't see the point in mic'ing an amp, with line in you cut out so much noise etc....

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I don't see the point in mic'ing an amp, with line in you cut out so much noise etc....

Sometimes it just sounds warmer. And some effects Adam genreates I doubt can be picked up with line in. THough not knowing much about recording, I cant really stake a case against anything

[munky_magik]

Adam's 2001 setup (http://guitargeek.com/rigview/593/)

[Rounder]

Adam's set up is immensley big and compicated, he has loads of pedals. We have a link to a site that kinda has loads of pedals they think he uses, search the thread to find it.

I don't think i ahev found an innacurate tab on tool tabs. I question the Aenima solo, and so play it the way i think it sounds. But other than that they are cool.

I don't see the point in mic'ing an amp, with line in you cut out so much noise etc....

They dont have the Enima tabs up right now, but a lot of Lateralus ones are kinda weird. for the Grudge they have

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which is of course way wrong.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Adam's 2001 setup (http://guitargeek.com/rigview/593/)

Wish i could find the picture of his attic with ALL his pedals on. I posted it yonks ago, and its difficult to search for

[The JoZ]

Backing Track: Stinkfist (http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EJ964IP32BY40KZY832E5BSTH)

[clearvision]

Legend :)

[The JoZ]

Please understand too, if I miss a note here or there, it's not cause I don't know the song, it's cause I don't have my four string.

Next up: Sober

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Backing Track: Stinkfist (http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EJ964IP32BY40KZY832E5BSTH)

Interesting personal twist on the intro :cool:

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