Tool

[Adam Jones is GOD]

^^Yeah, i remember that. There was a question asking Justin about English food or something, and Danny sarcasticaly coughed. But they put some tool-esque effects over the top of it.

And I also remember that it held very little use unfortunately. It was more questions about previous things rather than the new album.

[G_Mac07]

On the 5th of March 2002, Maynard stated that he would like to tour with Portishead some time. Any thoughts?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I find it funny that Blair has now edited out his last entry. Somebody sobered up im guessing.

A Portishead tour would attract two very different sets of fans, and from what i've seen of live Portishead, they have alot of various instruments onstage at once, which coudl be a pain to set up.

But then again, Tool do ahve the habit of touring with some completely unsimilar bands. And I wouldnt mind seeing Portishead.

[G_Mac07]

I find it funny that Blair has now edited out his last entry. Somebody sobered up im guessing.

A Portishead tour would attract two very different sets of fans, and from what i've seen of live Portishead, they have alot of various instruments onstage at once, which coudl be a pain to set up.

But then again, Tool do ahve the habit of touring with some completely unsimilar bands. And I wouldnt mind seeing Portishead.

That's how he got around to mentioning he wouldn't mind touring with them. They were talking about the lack of crowd reaction when Meshuggah opened for them, apparently they weren't popular.

[Werny]

Danny said that they were going to start finalising songs after Maynard toured with APC, and they've recorded at least 2 songs, and Danny also said to Blair that there's some vocal thing with a song they recorded recently that he's excited about. And you say Maynard is starting vocals in June?

If they've recorded at least 2 songs, how is it possible for them to release it next year?

I am musically illiterate so don't trust me, but I think it's common sense.

[Kage]

You mean how is it possible for them to release it next year as in you think it will definately be this year, or do you mean it will be later?

Because it sounds like they're recording songs one at a time, and with two done there's still I'd say at least 10 to go, which could take god knows how long, especially with Tool.

The only way I see it coming out this year is if they're mixing/mastering as well as recording, and then it will be possible.

[jamesclelland]

you'd be suprised how long mixing and mastering really take. I'm sure they have some mixing master that charges a couple grand a day, but it still ends up taking a while to do all that.
Plus, the cover art, the booklet, song order(you know thats important to tool)

btw, that tool cover show i mentioned earlier, was last night and you all missed a hell of a show, the final count was 42 paying people, and my band got a mosh pit going for every song.

[Kurrpt]

you'd be suprised how long mixing and mastering really take. I'm sure they have some mixing master that charges a couple grand a day, but it still ends up taking a while to do all that.
Plus, the cover art, the booklet, song order(you know thats important to tool)

btw, that tool cover show i mentioned earlier, was last night and you all missed a hell of a show, the final count was 42 paying people, and my band got a mosh pit going for every song.


whats ur play list look like?

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Im guessing it includes at least Stinkfist and Ænema

It would be included on mine anyway

[Adam Jones is GOD]

The best scenario wouldbe a late october release, and it coincides with Opeth's new release.

Happy Birthday Mr Ben :cool:

[jamesclelland]

whats ur play list look like?

Intolerance
46 & 2
Swamp Song (I got a really good reaction immediatly after the solo in that song)
Cold and Ugly
Stinkfist
Sober (We used a different drummer, we learned that song the day of the show and still got everyone singing along, headbanging, etc...)

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Pretty dark set then. YOur drumme rmanaged to pull off 46&2 then?

[Kurrpt]

swamp song eh.....me likey

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Wow, I got Portishead's Dummy a little while back and I was impressed. I really like the sound of those Trip-hop groups a lot. That'd be cool.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Intolerance
46 & 2
Swamp Song (I got a really good reaction immediatly after the solo in that song)
Cold and Ugly
Stinkfist
Sober (We used a different drummer, we learned that song the day of the show and still got everyone singing along, headbanging, etc...)

Very cool!
But I hope you have a pretty good bassist.

[G_Mac07]

Seeing those two tour together would be a very trippy experience, but would also be an absolutely awesome gig, although I'm not sure what sort of reception Portishead would get from a lot of Tool fans.


Well apparently Meshuggah didn't get a very good reception when they toured with Tool. I heard the Tool fans were standing with their arms folded etc, but Maynard seemed to dismiss that and said they only did that becuase they were ignorant of what Meshuggah we actually doing. This was talked about in the same interview.

[Kage]

I respect what Meshuggah does and like their music a lot, but dammit when I'm there to see Tool, a mind-numbing band like them would only make me more impatient to move on to the main attraction.

[misunderstood]

^^Yeah, thats really how I felt when I was there..

[jamesclelland]

he went a little fast on the intro for swamp song. the drummer just improved the solo to 46 &2 but like i said people really dug it. i will pay to do another show like that. especially if i can play the swamp song solo again.

[Huber]

I can see why most Tool fans wouldn't like Meshuggah. I love Meshuggah and Tool to death, but it's understandable. Standing their with your arms crossed and showing no respect I don't understand.

[G_Mac07]

^^Yeah, thats really how I felt when I was there..

You lucky bastard... :p

I still feel as though opening acts should be paid more respect. Just because your waiting to see a band you like more, doesn't mean it is going to degrade their quality of music.

[Moses]

I can't believe that there wasn't more moshing for Meshuggah. I love Meshuggah and I can't believe that the majority of the Tool fans didn't really "get" the time sigs.

[G_Mac07]

I think there must be a lot of people who don't get a lot of stuff, yet think they do. I find that really disappointing.

[misunderstood]

Ha, when I saw Meshuggah there was enough moshing! I did like their performance alot and I wasn't one of the people standing there with my arms crossed but after a while I just couldn't get myself to enjoy it as much, mainly because I was being squashed to death, but also because it was my first time seeing Tool and I just couldn't wait for them to take the stage already.

[Darkness]

Yeah I read a bunch of short concert reviews of the Lateralus tour with Meshuggah and about 4/5 said that Meshuggah was a bore, but there was one that said they were awesome... to bad really, Meshuggah is a very talented band.

[Kage]

Meshuggah isn't accessible at all, and will obviously only appeal to a very small and specific audience. Nothing wrong with that at all, but there's no reason to knock Tool fans for disliking them. They are extremely talented, but their music has a hard time reaching out to different types of people, which leads them to appeal to a small market.

[Darkness]

I'm not knocking Tool fans for disliking them, but at least show some respect. How can a band like the be "a bore" though? Ok so you don't like the performance but god that couldn't have been boreing...

[The JoZ]

Very cool!
But I hope you have a pretty good bassist.

As a bassist, I must say none of those songs are very hard.

I can play all of them, save Swamp Song, simply cause I haven't learned it.

[ThePatient]

Swamp Song isn't hard at all.

If I were to do a Tool cover show it'd be...

Part of Me
Prison Sex
H.
Pu****
Lateralus
Schism

[Kage]

I'm not knocking Tool fans for disliking them, but at least show some respect. How can a band like the be "a bore" though? Ok so you don't like the performance but god that couldn't have been boreing...

Respect, yes, but that doesn't mean you have to thrash around the whole time to music you don't really like...and frankly is sort of hard to thrash around to give the bizarre time signatures and rhythms and such. But I have to admit, respect gets a little tedious after awhile.

[corporalclegg]

Swamp Song isn't hard at all.

If I were to do a Tool cover show it'd be...

Part of Me
Prison Sex
H.
Pu****
Lateralus
Schism
Great set list.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think people don't get/understand Meshuggah's music as much for this reason. The music that most people appreciate today is built around catchy riffs. Very few people really give a **** if you can keep a polyrythm, or play in 13/8 time. Me and my friend have discussed this quite a few times. He runs into this problem with his own music quite often. From his first album to where he stands now, he has gone to the catchy James Hetfield-esque riffs to the Meshuggah meets Slayer sound, playing in wierd time sigs and such. Most of his family/friends/fans like his older, easier to listen to music mainly because it is just that-Easier to listen to. Meshuggah doesn't recieve half the credit they deserve for what they can do musically.

[Werny]

I have no idea what time sigs are, I am completely musically illiterate, but I enjoy listening to Meshuggah A LOT. If you look at songs like I or Neurotica from a non-music expert p.o.v, the riffs are very catchy. I is my favourite song/album for when I just want some mad hardcore heavy riffing and crazy drumming.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

As a bassist, I must say none of those songs are very hard.



That is one of the things that pulls me into certain bands. If they can play something that can keep my attention, but also something that I can play, it's a good thing. The only thing that requires extreme amounts of talent would be Danny Carey's drumming. Other than that, I can pull off Justin's bass lines, Jones' riffs, and Maynard's vox. (to a certain extent) I'm not trying to say that the members of Tool are untalented, I'm just saying that they're talent isn't shown through their technical prowess. It is demonstrated through their writing ability, and through the concepts behind their music. Tool goes far beyond what comes through the speakers, and that is also something that turns me onto certain music.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

95% of the music that is made is in 4/4 time. It is fairly hard to write an entire song in a wierd time signature. I'm not talking 3/4 or cut time or anything, but like oh say..perhaps a 7/8 8/8 9/8 progression. ( :eek: Lateralus!) Or since you're a Meshuggah fan, 13/8 (Stengah)

[horseypie]

i agree....adams a god

[mudvayne420]

As a bassist, I must say none of those songs are very hard.

I can play all of them, save Swamp Song, simply cause I haven't learned it.

agree with you. but trying to keep the rhytmn for Reflection, it's tireing after awhile. i think one of the most hardest tones to get is disposition(because of his Digitech Bass Whammy) man i wish i had one of those. but other than that its easy. i learned schism on guitar, fun and a pretty easy song to learn.

[horseypie]

sure the bass really isnt that tricky...even tho i dont play bass....its just more arty and ****....but adams rather fast....hes kool

[Artemician]

Anybody read the new update on the official website?

I think Blair is purposefully toying with us at this point....

[Kurrpt]

agree with you. but trying to keep the rhytmn for Reflection, it's tireing after awhile. i think one of the most hardest tones to get is disposition(because of his Digitech Bass Whammy) man i wish i had one of those. but other than that its easy. i learned schism on guitar, fun and a pretty easy song to learn.


do u use ur index and ring for the hammer on, or the middle and pinky....i personally think if you get the middle and pinky down it sounds better, you dont even have to change hand positions

[The JoZ]

You should play them for me. Yes?

I can, but I think I would need to restring my four string, or borrow another four string, cause mine has thick strings on it for low ADGC tuning...those strings won't do DADG :(

But when I do, I'll play them for you :D

That is one of the things that pulls me into certain bands. If they can play something that can keep my attention, but also something that I can play, it's a good thing. The only thing that requires extreme amounts of talent would be Danny Carey's drumming. Other than that, I can pull off Justin's bass lines, Jones' riffs, and Maynard's vox. (to a certain extent) I'm not trying to say that the members of Tool are untalented, I'm just saying that they're talent isn't shown through their technical prowess. It is demonstrated through their writing ability, and through the concepts behind their music. Tool goes far beyond what comes through the speakers, and that is also something that turns me onto certain music.

Don't misunderstand me, Justin's basslines as a whole are not what I would call "easy". But the basslines in the songs that were mentioned were definetly on the easy end of the scale.

Reflection is hard, simply because it's so long, and repetitive. I love the main riff he's got, but honestly, I don't think I've ever played it the whole way through the long intro, because it's, well, insanely long :lol:

But Reflection as a whole is tricky. There are parts of it I still mess up on every now and then, I am not perfect at it yet.

Disposition isn't hard if you have the right settings to play it, and I do. In fact, I have recorded a cover of it, though I took a little license with it at times, cause I wanted to...

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/6/thejozmusic.htm

It's a few songs down..."Noitisopsid", "Disposition" spelled backwards to fool the Soundclick people.

sure the bass really isnt that tricky...even tho i dont play bass....its just more arty and ****....but adams rather fast....hes kool

Quite the contrary, it's trickier than most people give it credit for. Mostly, the stuff on Lateralus is what's hard/tricky...

For example, "The Grudge" is very hard to hear half of what he's doing...so you have to try and guesstimate where he's at. "Schism" has the infamous triplet riff, and that by itself isn't hard, but some of his stuff towards the end, with odd notes thrown in, and such...is tricky.

Arguably the hardest song to play of theirs is "Parabola", simply because nobody seems to know EXACTLY what Adam and Justin are playing, alot of it is masked by Adam's distortion. I've seen some people come close, but alot of tabs are way off, or are missing a part, or something...

/long post :p

[Rothmans]

Arguably the hardest song to play of theirs is "Parabola", simply because nobody seems to know EXACTLY what Adam and Justin are playing, alot of it is masked by Adam's distortion. I've seen some people come close, but alot of tabs are way off, or are missing a part, or something...
They are its a pain in the *** i play guitar and bass and there is a bit i still dont know what to do its so annoying im closer on guitar than bass though bass is usualy shadowed over by adams distortion and on his guitar he switches his tone to 0 (for parabol anyway) to give it that type of melody (found that out by accident)

[The JoZ]

They are its a pain in the *** i play guitar and bass and there is a bit i still dont know what to do its so annoying im closer on guitar than bass though bass is usualy shadowed over by adams distortion and on his guitar he switches his tone to 0 (for parabol anyway) to give it that type of melody (found that out by accident)

Justin is overshadowed 9 times out of 10 thanks to Adam, that's why it's hard to play alot of their stuff...

Either way, Parabola is a bitch to play, I don't think anyone would argue that :cool:

[Kage]

Justin is overshadowed 9 times out of 10 thanks to Adam

That's the way it should be :p. But actually, I disagree that Justin is overshadowed 9 times out of 10 (or did you mean only in Parabola?) because I find Tool's bass to be very prominent, and I can usually pick out the bassline fairly easily especially in Lateralus. Aside from that, there are also many times where Justin and Adam mess around with their roles, as you know quite well. I actually find that when Justin gets buried, it's usually from the drums more than the guitar.

Parabola is a bitch to play, though I agree with that.

[Rothmans]

Justin is overshadowed 9 times out of 10 thanks to Adam, that's why it's hard to play alot of their stuff...

Either way, Parabola is a bitch to play, I don't think anyone would argue that :cool:
lol, I find it one of the most fun (aside form the bits i cant play)

But i dont know what is my favourite to play what's everyone elses?

[GhOsT335]

Tool are ****in amazing, full stop!!!!!!!!! :D

[GhOsT335]

46 and 2 on bass is quite gd to play- ez n sounds good

[clearvision]

I'd say that in pretty much every song i cannot hear the bass. Mainly because when jason is playing the lead line, it sounds like Adam.

[Darkness]

I could NEVER get Parabola to sound good... It kinda pisses me off because I can play every other Tool song you put infront of me...

[Anarchy_In_Mexico]

Whats the diference betwene 8/8 and 4/4?

And parabola isn't that tought, there's only 1 or 2 parts that i think that don't sound right, but the rest of it is not that hard, the only bad thing is the BEDG tuning because i have to use another bass for that.

[Kage]

The reason I don't play Parabola is because of the low tuning. Going that low rapes your guitar. I used to do it and it screws up the bridge and the thing will never stay in tune unless you adjust the nuts for 56s in the low string spot.

Plus, it's hard to get it to sound right.

[Huber]

I don't play Parabola because I'm just that cool.

That and I've never tried.

[The JoZ]

That's the way it should be :p. But actually, I disagree that Justin is overshadowed 9 times out of 10 (or did you mean only in Parabola?)

I was referring, in this post, to Parabola.

The only time you can clearly, clearly, hear the bass in this song, is when Justin plays that higher melody shortly after the solo.

The rest of the time, it's pretty buried, even in the beginning when Adam isn't playing, it's not very clear.

I should probably try playing Parabola on my 6 string...something I almost can't believe I haven't done yet :amaze:

[horseypie]

sure parabolas not that hard in the intro and stuff....the power chords arent hard there just fast but the picking is the bitch

and just play it on ur standard tuning n if u ever get another guitar or sumthin use that one to play parabola....**** the exact sound

[Kage]

If you play it in Standard, then the intervals of the notes will be off when you skip from the D or G string to the E or B.

[Darkness]

Its just the main riff on mx says:

e------------------
b------------------
g------------------
d------------------
e-----------3------
b--3/5--5~----5-3-

And this dosen't sound right at all when I play it... mabye I'm just messing it up the way its played...the rhtyhm...

[Kage]

That's innacurate:

e-----------------
b-----------------
g-----------------
d--0h2-3p2-------- x4
e--0-------3p0----
b--------------3--


That's more accurate, though we still can't be sure, I don't think. I haven't attempted the song since having grown an ear for music, so I dont' know how it sounds.

And btw, use tooltabs.net (www.tooltabs.net) for Tool songs.

[Huber]

Wow, those tabs look so different. I hate guitars

/breaks guitar

there I feel better

[The JoZ]

Look at the bass tabs, they're even worse.

NOBODY has that higher bassline in the chorus, except Tooltabs. I'd never heard it till they pointed it out, I assumed he was always following Adam, but apparantly not.

[mudvayne420]

do u use ur index and ring for the hammer on, or the middle and pinky....i personally think if you get the middle and pinky down it sounds better, you dont even have to change hand positions

i used to use my index and ring finger but now i use my middle and pinky becuase i'm tryin to streghten my pinky. it does sound better that way it's just the bridge i have trouble on.

[Rounder]

Look at the bass tabs, they're even worse.

NOBODY has that higher bassline in the chorus, except Tooltabs. I'd never heard it till they pointed it out, I assumed he was always following Adam, but apparantly not.

Now that we have a website up.. Im thinking about posting vids showing how I play Tool songs, which is really different than most of the tabs....

There is a part of stinkfist that I can figure out. The bridge. I know the first part, but not the second chord. It sounds really wierd. Everyone has

---------
--------
---------
-0--------
-2-------
-0--------

or some variation but Im convinced its way higher on the fretboard.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

bah that's an ugly chord. What is it a D5..something? :lol:

[Rounder]

bah that's an ugly chord. What is it a D5..something? :lol:
edit: oops brain fart. Its only an em7 when tuned to e. duh. I think it would be a d6

[corporalclegg]

what kind of distortion pedal does adam use.

[TheMachineRagesOn]

hehe just downloaded a funny bootlegged vid off winmx, has a tool doing a show (dont know were or when) and about 3/4 through the way of pu**** a fan gets on stage and goes to hug maynard, but instead maynard hip throws him to the ground gets him into a choke hold and keeps on singing (perfectly too all the while choking this wanker. is a funny watch if you can find the file, or already have it.

I think its called Tool.pu****.(maynardfightsfan) or something..

[corporalclegg]

yeah, that video is great, maynard doesn't give a fvck.

[BurtonChancellor]

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/6/thejozmusic.htm

It's a few songs down..."Noitisopsid", "Disposition" spelled backwards to fool the Soundclick people.
Well, that's a pretty cool take of disposition. I think you may have inspired me to give it a try. The only other Tool songs I have in my bass repetoire are Intolerance and 46&2, so it's about time I add something from Lateralus.

And as an aside: I listened to a few of the other tracks you had listed there, and the one titled "My solace in Requiem" kind of freaked me out. It sounds almost exactly like something I came up with on the bass a few weeks ago.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Disposition isn't hard if you have the right settings to play it, and I do. In fact, I have recorded a cover of it, though I took a little license with it at times, cause I wanted to...

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/6/thejozmusic.htm

It's a few songs down..."Noitisopsid", "Disposition" spelled backwards to fool the Soundclick people.

Well that confirms what I thought, that you can play some sweet sweet Tool.

Mind if I d/l and use it as a backing?

[joemarsh]

He uses the boss metal zone.

[clearvision]

Well that confirms what I thought, that you can play some sweet sweet Tool.

Mind if I d/l and use it as a backing?

I suppose i should ask too, though asking is just an afterthought :p / :upset:

[Darkness]

I want to use it to. lol

[G_Mac07]

As though we all didn't just take it anyway... but it does seem polite to ask his permission to use it. Perhaps SonorKen could record a backing track for Disposition as well, then we'd really have something. :D

Of course, thats if he's still around, I haven't seen him in ages.

[butch_man]

This is pretty lame but my math teacher introduced me to TOOL. They are really that great.

[G_Mac07]

What's that supposed to mean?

[Darkness]

Teachers aren't aloud to like tool?

[G_Mac07]

That's not what I mean. It just that he said it's lame that a teacher introduced him to Tool, and that they are really that great. I kinda see how this can both a good or sarcastic remark, and I'd like to know which way I should have interpreted his post.

[Darkness]

I donno if its sarcastic... and I'm sure he thinks its good because he got Tool out of it...

[G_Mac07]

As most people would, but the world sure does have some strange people...

[Huber]

My Drum teacher got me into Tool.

Is he sarcastic?

Or is he serious?

It's all a mystery.

Edit:
I forgot I had a real question. Heh.

I've been getting really confused about APC. Whos is this random girl in the photos? It's been boggling my mind.

[Darkness]

As most people would, but the world sure does have some strange people...

True dat... :)

[deathmetal]

TOOL KICKS ***!!!! They are the one band i have heard on where you can actually put your own feelings into the lyrics and songs! Like one of my friends said, "Tool is artistic, they dont even need to make sense"

[deathmetal]

tool rocks, but i dont really like apc. i dunno why, but there's something about them that doesnt clash with me. i like few songs, but not near as much as i like the tool songs!

[Magicaltroll]

The don't need to make sense huh?
...

[Huber]

TOOL KICKS ***!!!! They are the one band i have heard on where you can actually put your own feelings into the lyrics and songs! Like one of my friends said, "Tool is artistic, they dont even need to make sense"

Tool doesn't make sense? I can make sense of every Tool song, and make sense of it in atleast 2 ways for each song.

But yeah, Tool kicks ***.

[Darkness]

Lets not ask...

[Kage]

I've been getting really confused about APC. Whos is this random girl in the photos? It's been boggling my mind.

In what photos? If you're talking about earlier photos, the girl is Paz, their ex-bassist. Not sure if that's what you meant, though.

[Huber]

In what photos? If you're talking about earlier photos, the girl is Paz, their ex-bassist. Not sure if that's what you meant, though.

The pic was on launch. I didn't think she was the bassist because Twiggy was in the picture. Everyone is in the picture actually, with the exception of Maynard.

[Kage]

I just looked through all the pictures on launch and failed to see the one you're talking about.

[Huber]

I just looked through all the pictures on launch and failed to see the one you're talking about.

I believe it's the last one.

http://music.yahoo.com/ar-295841-photos-131276-A-Perfect-Circle

I think that's it

Edit: Bleh, not exactly that page, but the very last one.

[Kage]

I'm pretty sure that's Paz.

Unless you're talking about Maynard--he's in the backon the right :lol:

[Huber]

I'm pretty sure that's Paz.

Unless you're talking about Maynard--he's in the backon the right :lol:

Oh, he looked like Twiggy in that picture. Okay, all's clear now.

[Moses]

Tool doesn't make sense? I can make sense of every Tool song, and make sense of it in atleast 2 ways for each song.

But yeah, Tool kicks ***.

What are your two ways for Hush? Just wondering.

[Darkness]

Censor ship is gay, why don't you go **** yourself?

[Moses]

Censor ship is gay, why don't you go **** yourself?

Theres one way of interpreting it. I'm looking for one more.

[Kage]

Lack of a sense of humor.

[Moses]

Lack of a sense of humor.

No I got the joke. I was just wondering what a second interperation was.

Also if I have a lack of sense of humor, it's probably because I had West Side Story practice from 8:30 A.M. till 7:00 P.M. today. :angry:

[Kage]

No, no, I meant that's what Maynard is talking about.

[Moses]

Ok, I buy that.

[The JoZ]

I'm pretty sure that's Paz.

Unless you're talking about Maynard--he's in the backon the right :lol:

It is.

The other guy is Troy Van Leeuwen, or however his last name is spelled.

[butch_man]

It was my math teacher. Something I would never expect. And the band is great.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Censor ship is gay, why don't you go **** yourself?

Hey. That ones mine. :angry:

[Werny]

tool rocks, but i dont really like apc. i dunno why, but there's something about them that doesnt clash with me. i like few songs, but not near as much as i like the tool songs!

Same here. Something about APC just doesn't grab me. I do love Orestes, Judith and Pet, but their other songs just don't excite me.

I like The Package a bit, but it tries too much to be a Tool song.

Some songs are really cheesy. 3 Libras is just as bad as all of those "Emo" bands.

Moving on...

After listening to a few more Fantomas songs, I am glad for their influence on Tool, because they're more Undertow-ish. Yet I can't see Maynard singing like Patton any day now.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

This is pretty lame but my math teacher introduced me to TOOL. They are really that great.

Maths should be a breeze for you then. I can picture entire projects on working out a formula to calculate Danny's drum patterns for every note Adam and Justin plays, making sure to compensate for variables such as mistakes or solo parts.

[Otherside]

-shrugs- My english teacher got me into Tool.


...



Then he moved to New Zealand :\

[clearvision]

My english teacher was a big tool fan too, then he moved to new zealand... Maybe he is just like a messenger for tool :confused: lol

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Deftones got me into Tool. Linkin Park got me into Deftones. Papa Roach got me into Linkin Park. Then i forget what got me into what.

I think i've had a rough ride to get where I am

[bassist-bmxer]

These forums actually got me into Tool, I was in the bass forum and someone said something about the bassline for 'schism' so I downloaded it. I was like "....wow....".

[The Flabbit Rides High]

yeah, this forum also got me into Tool. Tool got 2nd and 3rd position on the Top Rock and Metal Albums, so i checked them out. In fact, i bought Lateralus without any proir knowledge whatsoever. Imagine my suprise........

[clearvision]

I was brought into tool by APC, after being reccomended by a friend. I had heard sober and Aenima before getting the whole Aenima album, my friend did a talk on aenima's lyrics in english (he got an A* lolrzzz).

But AJIG rough ride?

Papa roach - still loves infest :)
Linkin park - Hybrid theory will always be a good album, they may have gone downhill after but meh.
Deftones - White pony is an amazing album, Around the fur is also cool, i should check out more i suppose.

Not exactly a rough ride me feels.

my atstes are demented though :( mY listenings at the momet

Bjork - Post and Homogenic
Interpol - Antics
Oceansize - Efloresce
Skold - Skold EP

[The JoZ]

Actually, my grandparents sort of got me into Tool.

I'd heard "Schism" on the radio over the summer, while doing volunteer work at the university I now attend...and I was blown away.

So I mentioned that I wouldn't mind getting this album by Tool. And at Christmas, my grandparents got my Lateralus. My grandmother said the name was easy to remember, and she heard I wanted it, so there we go.

This was Christmas 2001

[Rounder]

Actually, my grandparents sort of got me into Tool.

I'd heard "Schism" on the radio over the summer, while doing volunteer work at the university I now attend...and I was blown away.

So I mentioned that I wouldn't mind getting this album by Tool. And at Christmas, my grandparents got my Lateralus. My grandmother said the name was easy to remember, and she heard I wanted it, so there we go.

This was Christmas 2001



aww thanks grandma :thumb:

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I was brought into tool by APC, after being reccomended by a friend. I had heard sober and Aenima before getting the whole Aenima album, my friend did a talk on aenima's lyrics in english (he got an A* lolrzzz).

But AJIG rough ride?

Papa roach - still loves infest :)
Linkin park - Hybrid theory will always be a good album, they may have gone downhill after but meh.
Deftones - White pony is an amazing album, Around the fur is also cool, i should check out more i suppose.

Not exactly a rough ride me feels.



I was referring more to the big black void of no music in my life before then.

And JoZ, you should try the album trick with your grandma mor eoften. Try and get some really obscure black metal album this year.

And Deftones still own to this day. Though LP i've lost the will to lsiten to, and Papa Roach become boring.

[The Flabbit Rides High]

I was brought into tool by APC, after being reccomended by a friend. I had heard sober and Aenima before getting the whole Aenima album, my friend did a talk on aenima's lyrics in english (he got an A* lolrzzz).

But AJIG rough ride?

Papa roach - still loves infest :)
Linkin park - Hybrid theory will always be a good album, they may have gone downhill after but meh.
Deftones - White pony is an amazing album, Around the fur is also cool, i should check out more i suppose.

Not exactly a rough ride me feels.

my atstes are demented though :( mY listenings at the momet

Bjork - Post and Homogenic
Interpol - Antics
Oceansize - Efloresce
Skold - Skold EP

Ive got Homogenic! Its amazing I think.

Ive heard a bit of Interpol, they sound decent.

Which brings me to Oceansize. Ive heard Cataclism i think its called, and its great! Can anyone tell me what Efloresce sounds like thru? Ive been meeaning to pick it up, but hesistated at the last minute.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

OT: clearvision, is Antics any good? i've heard the 3 released tracks, and only Evil has stood out to me as an interesting track. The other two sound too similar.

PDA was a cool track though

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I may have told this one before, but I first heard Sober in '99 when MTV used to play some good music videos and was blown away. SO I looked it up, found out that it was on the album Undertow, bought it, and I've been hooked ever since. I got Ænima about a week later, and I got Lateralus a day or two after it came out. I was hooked to Ænima from the start but Lateralus took some getting used to.

[fallen angel2121]

Sorry to butt in, but any ETA on the new album at all? I would search through the 220 (!) pages but I have school tomorrow.....

Fallen Angel

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Sorry to butt in, but any ETA on the new album at all? I would search through the 220 (!) pages but I have school tomorrow.....

Fallen Angel

Nah, man. Nothing yet. Believe me, if there's a new CD comin out then you'll notice it right away, people'll be going crazy and the album itself would likely get its own thread.

People have heard June at the earliest though. Hope that helps. :thumb:

[Rothmans]

OT: clearvision, is Antics any good? i've heard the 3 released tracks, and only Evil has stood out to me as an interesting track. The other two sound too similar.

PDA was a cool track though

The Interpol album is great I have it and its great

c'mere is brilliant and narc is another good song?

(I thought there was only 2 singles from antics?)

[clearvision]

Yeah i think if you like C'mere you'll like the whole album. It is all pretty similair...

Oceansize are actually great, incubus-floyd-radiohead is how i would describe them. Their site is http://www.sizeofanocean.com . The song you heard was catalyst, not one of my fav's but still a cool track. Please do check out the album, it is great.

[clearvision]

This is C'mere http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0RC9D9X9JCL1539L8CSVCXOT1X

If you liek this you'll probs enjoy the album.

I'll upload one of my favourite oceansize songs...

[clearvision]

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PQEUTJFZ6HMH329PMZWMPE414

Oceansize - you wish

[ndude77]

Adam Jones is a decent guitarist. Dont worry im not here to thrash him :thumb: , i respect him immensely and just because he uses lots of guitar effects doesnt mean he sucks at all. Some guitarists are extremely talented, take any of the obvious, Hendrixes, Jimmy Pages, Stevie Ray-Vaughns, Tom Morellos. But one thing that i love about Adam Jones is that he doesnt need balsy, shredding riffs to tug at your soul and move you. So he may not be the most talented, but i think it says more in that he's been so sucessfull and dosent need amazing skills to prove anything.

[The Flabbit Rides High]

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PQEUTJFZ6HMH329PMZWMPE414

Oceansize - you wish

Thanx Vision. Il Prob be buying the album next. They are definatly progressive.

[deathmetal]

I have heard that if you play Tool's "Lateralus" album in a certain order it is one big song pretty much, but I forgot the order. Anyone know it?

[Kage]

Adam Jones is a decent guitarist. Dont worry im not here to thrash him :thumb: , i respect him immensely and just because he uses lots of guitar effects doesnt mean he sucks at all. Some guitarists are extremely talented, take any of the obvious, Hendrixes, Jimmy Pages, Stevie Ray-Vaughns, Tom Morellos. But one thing that i love about Adam Jones is that he doesnt need balsy, shredding riffs to tug at your soul and move you. So he may not be the most talented, but i think it says more in that he's been so sucessfull and dosent need amazing skills to prove anything.

Yeah, I agree, although I think he is very talented. I love his style. The way he incorporates certain chord progressions along with rhythmically unique riffs and the effective use of different non-chord tones to build riffs and create a song, with true progression, I find incredible. The way the songs branch of into different directions, but always return to some kind of likeness is genius.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Adam Jones is a decent guitarist. Dont worry im not here to thrash him :thumb: , i respect him immensely and just because he uses lots of guitar effects doesnt mean he sucks at all. Some guitarists are extremely talented, take any of the obvious, Hendrixes, Jimmy Pages, Stevie Ray-Vaughns, Tom Morellos. But one thing that i love about Adam Jones is that he doesnt need balsy, shredding riffs to tug at your soul and move you. So he may not be the most talented, but i think it says more in that he's been so sucessfull and dosent need amazing skills to prove anything.


Well, first off, Tom Morello isn't anything special technically. But you're right, neither is Adam Jones. But IMO, Adam Jones has by far the best SOUND in his guitar. The distortion is just so right. Not only that, but he his brilliant at creating an atmosphere.

But back to your point, technical-wise, I'd say that Vai and Petrucci are the apex.

[Darkness]

Shred wise, Tom owns the hell out of Adam. Proof? Know your enemy and Darkness solos, plus on the new Audioslave record he said "their will be plenty of guitar shredding for everyone"

Sorry off topic...

In reply to what Kage was talking about, the way he builds songs, have you noticed that they almost always return to the intro riff/riffs?

[misunderstood]

I have heard that if you play Tool's "Lateralus" album in a certain order it is one big song pretty much, but I forgot the order. Anyone know it?

And so here it is....Again:

6,7,5,8,4,9,3,10,2,11,1,12,13 ("The Lateralus Prophecy") or 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10 ("The Holy Gift")


I just copy/pasted that off a site so sorry if there's a mistake in there or something.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I apologize for my laziness, but can anyone tab the single string opening riff for Lateralus. I just love that opening.

[Werny]

We should have a thread (locked so no one can reply) with the alternate order and news on the new album in it.

I heard about Tool from a Pearl Jam forum and eventually lent Ænima and Undertow from a friend at school.

[Moses]

Adam Jones is a decent guitarist. Dont worry im not here to thrash him :thumb: , i respect him immensely and just because he uses lots of guitar effects doesnt mean he sucks at all. Some guitarists are extremely talented, take any of the obvious, Hendrixes, Jimmy Pages, Stevie Ray-Vaughns, Tom Morellos. But one thing that i love about Adam Jones is that he doesnt need balsy, shredding riffs to tug at your soul and move you. So he may not be the most talented, but i think it says more in that he's been so sucessfull and dosent need amazing skills to prove anything.

I think his talent is definately in song writing, voice leading, and harmonizing. He knows what chords create moods and what chords to create to lead into the next mood. Also he knows which non-chord tones to move into the next chord change. It's a different kind of talent than shredding. The solo on Parabola is an excellent example of the leading that I'm talking about.

[Moses]

In reply to what Kage was talking about, the way he builds songs, have you noticed that they almost always return to the intro riff/riffs?

Can you give a quick example please?

[6stringslinger]

I have just recently started listening to Tool(last 3-4 months) and I have became addicted to them for all you die hard fans suggest me some more songs other than what I have listed

Stinkfist(totally awesome powerfull song makes me feel like breaking things every time I hear it,play this song 7-8 times a day)
Parabola
Lateralus
Jerk-Off
Prison Sex
Schism
Sober
The Grudge
Undertow
Part of me

[misunderstood]

Push!t
Third Eye
H.
46&2
Opiate
Jimmy
So many...

[Rounder]

I have just recently started listening to Tool(last 3-4 months) and I have became addicted to them for all you die hard fans suggest me some more songs other than what I have listed

Stinkfist(totally awesome powerfull song makes me feel like breaking things every time I hear it,play this song 7-8 times a day)
Parabola
Lateralus
Jerk-Off
Prison Sex
Schism
Sober
The Grudge
Undertow
Part of me

I would recommend that you listen to the whole album at once. They've said it themselves they are an album band. The songs as seperate entities are great, But put them together and listen to them all at once, its a bigger and more fulfilling experience. This means if you are downloading these songs to go buy the album :lol:

Listen to Enima, then Lateralus, then Undertow then Opiate, imo.

[Huber]

I would recommend that you listen to the whole album at once. They've said it themselves they are an album band. The songs as seperate entities are great, But put them together and listen to them all at once, its a bigger and more fulfilling experience. This means if you are downloading these songs to go buy the album :lol:

Listen to Enima, then Lateralus, then Undertow then Opiate, imo.

Yeah, listen to the full albums.

[BlindWriting]

Listen to Enima, then Lateralus, then Undertow then Opiate, imo.
That's definitely the best order, and the one that I listened to them in.

[6stringslinger]

Thanks, rOund3r,Sliptallica,BlindWriting

I will have to listen to all thier music. They are a great band that I just discovered.

[metallicafan501]

I have just recently started listening to Tool(last 3-4 months) and I have became addicted to them for all you die hard fans suggest me some more songs other than what I have listed

Stinkfist(totally awesome powerfull song makes me feel like breaking things every time I hear it,play this song 7-8 times a day)
Parabola
Lateralus
Jerk-Off
Prison Sex
Schism
Sober
The Grudge
Undertow
Part of me

dude you gotta check out ticks and leeches as well as mantra, pu****, hooker with a *****, H, 46 and 2, and third eye. if stinkfist makes you wanna break stuff then ticks and leeches will make you want to beat the **** out of somebody. the drums are super sweet in that song as well as the guitar.

[metallicafan501]

oops forgot that those were swear words

[Darkness]

Can you give a quick example please?

Alright, Lateralus, The Grudge, The Patient, Parabol/Parabola... I haven't listened to Aenima or Undertow in a while but I'm sure theres songs on their like that to...

[Grey Incision]

I really hope this isn't the case, but i heard a rumour that Maynard was converting to christianity, and there are doubts that he will continue with the band, and even doubts that the new record will go ahead........(not a regular tool fan, so sorry if that's late news)

[Huber]

I really hope this isn't the case, but i heard a rumour that Maynard was converting to christianity, and there are doubts that he will continue with the band, and even doubts that the new record will go ahead........(not a regular tool fan, so sorry if that's late news)

No, it was an April Fool's joke.

[Grey Incision]

No, it was an April Fool's joke.

oh, thank christ for that............................ <<----now that's irony for ya

[jamesclelland]

i could really go for some tour/cd news from toolband.com. After playing that tribute show, i have to see the real thing.

[Shadius]

They'd better play in England soon after the new album release if they know whats good for them.

[jamesclelland]

****, i'm going to portland, seattle, and vancouver (only because i'm only 20, and i want to get drunk for a tool show)

[bassist-bmxer]

Listen to Enima, then Lateralus, then Undertow then Opiate, imo.

I might have to try that, i bought aenima the other day, but I also have the other albums.

One thing that I was slightly dissapointed by was that have the british version so the booklet is different to the usa one which i heard was really cool. Oh well.

They'd better play in England soon after the new album release if they know whats good for them.

Yeah, I really hope they do.

[Darkness]

I hope they stop by Edmonton again....


And earth worm jim rules...

[siva_chair]

Well, first off, Tom Morello isn't anything special technically. But you're right, neither is Adam Jones. But IMO, Adam Jones has by far the best SOUND in his guitar. The distortion is just so right. Not only that, but he his brilliant at creating an atmosphere.

But back to your point, technical-wise, I'd say that Vai and Petrucci are the apex.

I see lots of similarities in Tom Morello and Adam Jone's styles. Meh....maybe it's just me....

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I see lots of similarities in Tom Morello and Adam Jone's styles. Meh....maybe it's just me....

Nope, i see them too. They may have moved away recnetly along their own paths, but check out both artists preferences. Both use their tone as their strongest point, with loads of effects to create unique sounds.

Then both have a habbit of tremelo picking solos and occassionally shredding.

But from playing both Tool and RATM stuff (and to a lesser extent, some Audioslave), I notice a very similar style when playing them. The reason for this is obvious though

[siva_chair]

Nope, i see them too. They may have moved away recnetly along their own paths, but check out both artists preferences. Both use their tone as their strongest point, with loads of effects to create unique sounds.

Then both have a habbit of tremelo picking solos and occassionally shredding.

But from playing both Tool and RATM stuff (and to a lesser extent, some Audioslave), I notice a very similar style when playing them. The reason for this is obvious though


My thoughts exactly. Good to know I am not the only one who sees this.

[Darkness]

Yeah I think there similar to... probably because they tought eachother to play...

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Cookie for anyone who can name me the band they formed at High School.

(no cheating by using Kabir's FAQ)

[Darkness]

Electric Sheep

[The JoZ]

Electric Sheep.

Adam played bass though :p

And it's probably the relationship they had through high school that has led them to have similar playing styles.

[bassist-bmxer]

I thought it was Tom that played bass.... I'm probably wrong.

[Darkness]

^No, Adam played bass.

To the joz, its a fact that they learned how to play from eachother... I can't remember which one said that but I saw it in an interview somewhere..

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Good to see you're all on the ball today

/trusts at least JoZ knew off the top of his head.

[James Howlett]

Electric Sheep.

Adam played bass though :p

And it's probably the relationship they had through high school that has led them to have similar playing styles.

Tom Morrello and Adam Jonas have similar playing styles? Tom uses alot if eighties like rifes and solo's while Adam......can't actually think of someone to compare him with.

They are still two of the most influential guitarist for me though, maybe Tom more than Adam.

[Darkness]

Their just similar the way they play, their tone, the effects...

[clearvision]

I did AJIG, just wasn't on at the time :(

/Hopes he still gets a house point

[James Howlett]

Their just similar the way they play, their tone, the effects...

Your probably right. They have the same feel to there work.

[The JoZ]

Good to see you're all on the ball today

/trusts at least JoZ knew off the top of his head.

Duh. I am a paragon of Tool knowledge :cool:

Tom Morrello and Adam Jonas have similar playing styles? Tom uses alot if eighties like rifes and solo's while Adam......can't actually think of someone to compare him with.

They are still two of the most influential guitarist for me though, maybe Tom more than Adam.

It's simply how they both play...differently.

None of their riffs or solos are particularly technical or hard, but they are some of the best around.

They are two guitarists who utilize effects to their fullest advantage. Rather than being seen as hiding behind effects, as some might do...if Tom and Adam didn't use effects the way they did, their playing would be only average, maybe a little above...

[siva_chair]

Anyone know where to get a hold of the legendary "Aenima" guitar tab book? I have searched everywhere, but I cannot find the **** thing.

I'm starting to wonder if it even exists.....

[jamesclelland]

the whole album tab doesn't exist. i've called companies etc... doesnt exist. you can get single song books for $3 though. www.sheetmusicplus.com

[Kurrpt]

the whole album tab doesn't exist. i've called companies etc... doesnt exist. you can get single song books for $3 though. www.sheetmusicplus.com


hes right

[Darkness]

Can't believe this was on page 5...

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Duh. I am a paragon of Tool knowledge :cool:



It's simply how they both play...differently.

None of their riffs or solos are particularly technical or hard, but they are some of the best around.

They are two guitarists who utilize effects to their fullest advantage. Rather than being seen as hiding behind effects, as some might do...if Tom and Adam didn't use effects the way they did, their playing would be only average, maybe a little above...

Yeah, I said the same thing. Although the "Know Your Enemy" solo was very impressive, Tom was still using a lot of effects on his guitar. Any advanced guitarist in music today could have such a solo.

But let's not downgrade the importance and skill of using effects. Tom and Adam are the best..maybe ever.

[Darkness]

Yeah but I love the way Tom uses other stuff to... like ball pointed pens or the cord that plugs into the guitar itself...

[Kage]

It's not that Adam uses effects, it's the way he uses them. I think it's brialliant, and I like his playing far better than Morello's, but that's strictly personal preference.

[horseypie]

tom has way kooler sounds...and adam has more structured, arty solos

[The JoZ]

It's not that Adam uses effects, it's the way he uses them. I think it's brialliant, and I like his playing far better than Morello's, but that's strictly personal preference.

Me too.

Morello's solos are cool. But nothing gives me goosebumps quite like the second Third Eye solo :cool:

[Sleeper]

Tom can make his guitar scream

[Darkness]

Tom can do alot of things on his guitar...

[The JoZ]

Why are we still comparing the two?

They are both great guitarists, with similar, yet different styles.

[Darkness]

^ Amen...

On to other tool related topics... I can't think of anything else to discuss right now...

[Rounder]

So, now that we have a website set up..Im thinking of making videos of me playing Tool songs because a lot of the tabs are wrong...here are some of the songs im thinking of recording..

Undertow
Flood
Stinkfist
Eulogy
46&2
Pushit
Third eye
The Grudge
Schism
Lateralus

if there are any others that you might want to see my take on..let me know..I can play other songs, some I need to relearn

[Sleeper]

I would like you to play either Swamp song or Disposition

[Rounder]

I would like you to play either Swamp song or Disposition

hmm swamp song might be possible, disposition is one I haven't learned yet...

[Moses]

Didn't Tom teach Adam how to play guitar in highschool?

[Darkness]

They learned from eachother... but were off that subject now. :)

[Moses]

They learned from eachother... but were off that subject now. :)
Just making sure.

[The JoZ]

I would like you to play either Swamp song or Disposition

I can play Disposition :cool:

[Dude3]

While I love Adam Jones' guitar playing, I REALLY love Morello's playing.

[Sleeper]

I can play Disposition :cool:
Yeh Joz, Ive heard your bass playing. Your awesome :thumb:

[Sleeper]

Tom can do alot of things on his guitar...
Yeh :lol:

[BlindWriting]

I can play Disposition :cool:
I really love Disposition, and the few lyrics it had were among the most poetic, in terms of style, on Lateralus.

[Moses]

Listening to Disposition right now. Doesn't sound too hard to play, but the only thing challenging I can think of in Tool is Danny Carey. Don't get me wrong I love, love, love, Maynards voice, but people hold him to such high regard as a skilled singer and he's no virtuoso by anymeans. His range is little better than average, he has a unique style but his voice isn't that strong. He lost his voice for three weeks after recording Ticks and Leeches. I also find that he shines more in APC, a bit of a shame though because APC is less original and a little more watered down than Tool (basing my opinion on Mer de Noms). I've heard things about him having perfect pitch but he definatly obtained it after Opiate because there are a couple "sour" notes on that album.

Here come the flamers.

[Kage]

No flaming from me, because I mostly agree with you. I think there are some challenging things though besides the drumming, including guitar and bass. Granted, it's not extremely difficult, but that's not the purpose either. Adam Jones has some of my favorite all-time riffs and solos to his repetiore, purely for the sound, feel, and emotion he has in his playing.

Maynard, I love his singing style and he's a great lyricist, but he's not a singer that is just absolutely incredible in terms of technical skill. He's able to keep good and accessible melodies on top of the non-catchy and often tricky rhythmic playing from the band, which gets major props from me.

As far as "sour" notes go, I think imperfections are a cool feature of any band. Tool's sound isn't overly produced, it doesn't sound like it's coming from a $2 PC mic, but the guitars and bass have that raw bite to them.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I agree, there certainly isn't anything special about Disposition. But then again, it's really just part one of a one song when you think about it.

[Moses]

No flaming from me, because I mostly agree with you. I think there are some challenging things though besides the drumming, including guitar and bass. Granted, it's not extremely difficult, but that's not the purpose either. Adam Jones has some of my favorite all-time riffs and solos to his repetiore, purely for the sound, feel, and emotion he has in his playing.

Maynard, I love his singing style and he's a great lyricist, but he's not a singer that is just absolutely incredible in terms of technical skill. He's able to keep good and accessible melodies on top of the non-catchy and often tricky rhythmic playing from the band, which gets major props from me.

As far as "sour" notes go, I think imperfections are a cool feature of any band. Tool's sound isn't overly produced, it doesn't sound like it's coming from a $2 PC mic, but the guitars and bass have that raw bite to them.

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have said "nothing besides the drums", because there are truly strokes of genius within all the members of Tool.

Moving on to a new subject, Mer de Noms. I really liked it, but it sounded a bit watered down, probably because of the song formula in most of their songs. I guess my main issue is originality. Does anyone agree with me or am I missing somthing about the band?

[Moses]

I agree, there certainly isn't anything special about Disposition. But then again, it's really just part one of a one song when you think about it.

Well, I was actually talking about Tool in general.

[Kage]

I don't know, I find them to have a really unique sound. Maybe originality is slightly lacking, but I guess unique sound and originality are pretty different. I really like the lyrics and the sound of APC, though, and if they lack anything in originality it is more than made up for by that, not to mention the emotion of the songs.

I also like the abundance of two different guitar parts on every song.

[Darkness]

Moving on to a new subject, Mer de Noms. I really liked it, but it sounded a bit watered down, probably because of the song formula in most of their songs. I guess my main issue is originality. Does anyone agree with me or am I missing somthing about the band?

Give 13th step a listen or 2... I truly love that album. :)

[Moses]

Whew, I have been spared. I actually wouldn't been surprised if I got banned for saying that. Maynard is a god on this forum.

[Moses]

Give 13th step a listen or 2... I truly love that album. :)
Everyone I've talked to said Mer de Noms is better, but I'll definately give 13th Step a listen. I've heard Emotive and I didn't like it that much.

[Rounder]

Whew, I have been spared. I actually wouldn't been surprised if I got banned for saying that. Maynard is a god on this forum.

If Maynard left Tool, I think Tool could carry on without him. It wouldnt be the same, but My favorite people in the band are the ones playing guitar bass and drums.....

[Huber]

I can't remember who said it, but they said it best when they said "The second half of Mer De Noms is much weaker than the first."

[Rounder]

Give 13th step a listen or 2... I truly love that album. :)

13th step is different but it is a good record. Vanishing is one of my favs, so is The Noose.

[Huber]

If Maynard left Tool, I think Tool could carry on without him. It wouldnt be the same, but My favorite people in the band are the ones playing guitar bass and drums.....

It wouldn't keep together. They have much more to do than Tool, and keeping it together would just get to much in the way of everything else.

[Moses]

I can't remember who said it, but they said it best when they said "The second half of Mer De Noms is much weaker than the first."

Wow, that actually explains alot. I subconsciously noticed that my first listen.

[Moses]

Umm.. Tool would DEFINATELY not be the same. Without Maynard's vocals.. all they got is some talented dudes playing instruments. Don't get me wrong, that's still pretty good.. but the vocals are a big part of what makes Tool, Tool.

They could get someone with a similar vocal style.

This gives me an idea.

If you could replace Maynard with any singer, who would it be? Maynard would still write the lyrics.

My vote goes to Chad Grey. I think his clean voice would mix perfectly on a song like Reflection for example, and he could do Ticks and Leeches better.

[Moses]

They couldn't replace him. I don't think anyone sounds like Maynard. He's got such a ****ing amazing voice.

I'm just asking a question? Who would you pick to replace him if you had to?

And there are actually alot of people that have similar vocal styles to MJK.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Who?

I think Akerfeldt, at times, does. His clean voice.

[Rounder]

Who?

Mike patton could do it. Hes got a different voice, but a kick *** one.

Yes it would suck if maynard left. But I would still listen to the other members of Tool if they went on without him. Vocals arent a "big" part of the music, just 1/4 of it.

Im listening to Bleak from Opeth right now, that guy could do it. I dont know his name, as long as he didnt growl, his singing voice is supurb.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

His vocals are a huge part, but Danny and Adam have proven that they can do a lot without Maynard. Triad live was fvcking mindblowing.

[Kage]

I can't remember who said it, but they said it best when they said "The second half of Mer De Noms is much weaker than the first."

I said that at one point, but I'm sure other people have as well. It seems to be the general consesus.

As for Maynard leaving Tool, I must protest. I think every single member is an integral part of their sound, and I'd be quite distressed if they tried to continue despite the loss of one of their members.

[The JoZ]

Tool is not Tool without Maynard, Adam, Danny and Justin. Period.

[Moses]

Mike patton could do it. Hes got a different voice, but a kick *** one.

Yes it would suck if maynard left. But I would still listen to the other members of Tool if they went on without him. Vocals arent a "big" part of the music, just 1/4 of it.

Im listening to Bleak from Opeth right now, that guy could do it. I dont know his name, as long as he didnt growl, his singing voice is supurb.
Mikael Akerfeldt is his name.

To anyone sayin I wouldn't replace him, I'm not saying would you replace him, I'm saying if you had to pick someone who would it be.

[Moses]

Tool is not Tool without Maynard, Adam, Danny and Justin. Period.
What band put Opiate and Undertow out then?

[Huber]

What band put Opiate and Undertow out then?

I don't know, but I didn't know it had such smartass fans.

Man, how ironic.

Edit: That was a joke. I just couldn't refrain from saying it.

[Moses]

Who?
Lots of people that I know. I go to an Arts school and alot of the vocal majors are quite good.

[Kage]

I think the members of Tool could go on without Maynard, but as a completely seperate entity and having no association with Tool.

[Huber]

I think the members of Tool could go on without Maynard, but as a completely seperate entity and having no association with Tool.

Yeah, I think they'd pull an Audioslave. Maybe change their name and start making kick *** music, but music that sounds much different.

[Moses]

I don't know, but I didn't know it had such smartass fans.

Man, how ironic.

Edit: That was a joke. I just couldn't refrain from saying it.
:lol: :lol: :lol: I got a good laugh out of that one.

[Moses]

I'd just like to know what vocalist, if any, could fill the shoes of MJK.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Akerfeldt could pull it out. No growls though.

[The JoZ]

I know Paul D'Amour was with them before, but Tool now would not be the same without Justin in the band.

[Rounder]

Akerfeldt could pull it out. No growls though.

exactly.

and :lol: about the opiate undertow thing

I think all Tool fans should recognize that the first person to leave the current lineup would probably be maynard.

[Moses]

I already mentioned Chad Grey as my first pick.

Akerfeldt's singing voices is a bit too conservative I think.

[Moses]

I know Paul D'Amour was with them before, but Tool now would not be the same without Justin in the band.

I agree, I was just giving you chit.

[Kage]

I'd just like to know what vocalist, if any, could fill the shoes of MJK.

As far as filling the shoes of MJK as his role in Tool, the answer is: no one.

[BlindWriting]

I'd just like to know what vocalist, if any, could fill the shoes of MJK.
taht dood from apc.

[Rounder]

I know Paul D'Amour was with them before, but Tool now would not be the same without Justin in the band.

That's true, but they could go on, Undertow and opiate being just as good as the new (IMO) ones, I think the band could go forward somehow.

[Kage]

taht dood from apc.

:lol:

[BlindWriting]

As far as filling the shoes of MJK as his role in Tool, the answer is: no one.
Truth. He's responsible for A LOT more than just singing.

[The JoZ]

Since he apparantly wants to sing like Maynard, Pete from Chevelle could replace him, if needed.

[Kage]

Well, he's an awful song-writer and when he tries screaming, it only comes out as obnoxious yelling.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Since he apparantly wants to sing like Maynard, Pete from Chevelle could replace him, if needed.

Hadn't thought of that but I agree with Kage on his song-writing. The voice is very similar, though.

[heavy metal kid]

Since he apparantly wants to sing like Maynard, Pete from Chevelle could replace him, if needed.

the guy from earshot sings more like MJK,but still he's unreplaceable,nobody posses the mind of MJK.

[Magicaltroll]

Well, he's an awful song-writer and when he tries screaming, it only comes out as obnoxious yelling.
I kinda like Chevelle :/

[Kage]

It's not that Chevelle is horrible. I just don't like their lyrics, his guitar playing is pretty lousy most of the time and the new album is far worse than anything they've ever released. I never liked Point #1, and WWN was good but it got old for me.

[Moses]

As far as filling the shoes of MJK as his role in Tool, the answer is: no one.

Well thats why I said "if anyone". It definately wouldn't be the same or as good, but I'd just like to know who everyone would pick.

[Kage]

I'd pick myself, then.

[Moses]

It's not that Chevelle is horrible. I just don't like their lyrics, his guitar playing is pretty lousy most of the time and the new album is far worse than anything they've ever released. I never liked Point #1, and WWN was good but it got old for me.
Chevelle is a bit generic. I liked parts of Point #1.

[BlindWriting]

Chevelle is kind of my musical guilty pleasure.

[Moses]

I'd pick myself, then.
Nice. Tool fanboys would probably rip whoever it was replacing him to shreds.

[Moses]

Chevelle is kind of my musical guilty pleasure.
My musical guilty pleasure is Ludacris.

[Magicaltroll]

Chevelle is a bit generic. I liked parts of Point #1.
Yeah, some of their songs are kinda lame I guess. But they have a few songs that I really like. But the songs that everyone else liked, I hate. Like "Red" and "Closure". Those songs aren't really that great to me .

[Kage]

Nice. Tool fanboys would probably rip whoever it was replacing him to shreds.

So you want me to be ripped to shreds? :amaze:

[Kage]

Yeah, some of their songs are kinda lame I guess. But they have a few songs that I really like. But the songs that everyone else liked, I hate. Like "Red" and "Closure". Those songs aren't really that great to me .

I'd say their only song that has stuck with me that I still like is An Evening With El Diablo. That song has a really cool feel.

[Moses]

I've heard bad things about Pete's voice in concert too, from my freinds.

[Huber]

Nice. Tool fanboys would probably rip whoever it was replacing him to shreds.

What did I say about those smartass fans?

Replace Maynard? Hm...I know.

Hire Maynard James Keenan as a session vocalist.

[Moses]

I'd say their only song that has stuck with me that I still like is An Evening With El Diablo. That song has a really cool feel.
I forgot about that song I'm putting it on in a second.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I actually haven't seen as many fanboys on here as I thought I would. At first I thought I would, though. With monikers like "Adam Jones is God" or "Tool Owns You," you'd think that they'd be fanboys, but theyre not. But you're right about Tool fans in general, it'd be pretty fvcking hard to replace Maynard.

[Moses]

What did I say about those smartass fans?

Replace Maynard? Hm...I know.

Hire Maynard James Keenan as a session vocalist.

You seem to be on today. :lol:

[Kage]

it'd be pretty fvcking hard to replace Maynard.

No it wouldn't, dammit.

[Moses]

Anyway I'm getting 300 and then I'm out for the night.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

No it wouldn't, dammit.

:lol: You gotta send us your vocals, man.

On another note, it's good to see that this thread is very active now.