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Darkness
04-04-2005, 09:27 PM
He's holding one on the Oklahoma vid.

supermasterp0rnoman
04-04-2005, 09:28 PM
ok maybe im late with this, maybe its a joke that you guys already all knew or found out about or whatever. So if im late with this dont get mad but is this true? Maynard quiting the band? please tell me this is just a joke

http://www.soundgenerator.com/news/index.cfm?articleid=5266

theres the article,my friend sent it too me

Kage
04-04-2005, 09:29 PM
1000002321424132 poster to come in here with that.

A little late? I think not!

supermasterp0rnoman
04-04-2005, 09:30 PM
haha ok so it isnt true then right?

Kage
04-04-2005, 09:30 PM
Nope. Not true.

supermasterp0rnoman
04-04-2005, 09:31 PM
thank you god, and Kage your the man

Kage
04-04-2005, 09:31 PM
:cool:

SeAmoNKeY
04-04-2005, 09:51 PM
Nope. Not true.

after this post i will change my name and disappear forever...but how do we know its not true. So far ive seen two messages on two websites suggesting the same thing.

misunderstood
04-04-2005, 10:01 PM
http://www.smnnews.com/friendsofsmn.php

I guess alot of people found Jesus that day then.
:rolleyes:

Huber
04-04-2005, 10:23 PM
Pray Hard :lol: :lol: :lol:

Moses
04-04-2005, 10:47 PM
Pray Hard :lol: :lol: :lol:
I thought that was funny too :lol:

Kage
04-04-2005, 10:53 PM
after this post i will change my name and disappear forever...but how do we know its not true. So far ive seen two messages on two websites suggesting the same thing.

They're all just playing off the whole Head leaving for religion thing. Besides, toolshed.down.net is known for April fool's jokes now, and we all knew Blair would do one.

Adam Jones is GOD
04-05-2005, 02:30 AM
Yeah, i'm also pretty sure Maynard plays guitar on Triad...he did when i saw them live two yrs. ago.

That live video of Triad has a bunch of people playing on stage. Kinda ruins the illusion that Adam is creating all them noises.

And during Reflection, I notice there is one part where Adam is constantly switching between two pedals. Im going to discver why and what effect they have on his tone during those points

IvortheEngineDriver
04-05-2005, 11:39 AM
So...when the new album comes out, will there be a tour in the summer or will it be a spring of 06 thing?

the2stranger
04-05-2005, 11:50 AM
maybe some winter/ autumn touring?
they won't play any festivals I thibk, so I think a tour late in the year is quite well possible

The JoZ
04-05-2005, 11:57 AM
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=35056

Maynard has not quit Tool, as I suspected.

And Adam plays the synth parts in Reflection as well as the guitar line. How he does it, I don't know, but I'd love to be able to reproduce it myself.

the2stranger
04-05-2005, 12:01 PM
Adam? :eek:

I thought Justin Played all the synth parts, since he already uses synth effects on his bass.
and Bass and synth just seems right ( geddy lee)

The JoZ
04-05-2005, 12:03 PM
No, Adam does. I don't know how though.

the2stranger
04-05-2005, 12:06 PM
sometimes I wonder how Geddy does his stuff at the same time too.
those guys are just to great for me to comprehend, I will just take a backseat and enjoy the music :)

I do hope there are more synth parts, Lateralus was pretty filled with some, but even more would be even better

The JoZ
04-05-2005, 12:11 PM
I sometimes wish Tool had an active keyboard player. It'd be cool to hear more synth stuff, even if it's just for atmosphere or ambience or stuff.

That being said, Justin and Adam do know how to create wicked synth sounds on their respective guitars

Rothmans
04-05-2005, 12:12 PM
I've seen several live videos of Schism and never once did Maynard have a guitar.
On the oklohoma vid it seems he is playin guitar or bass or sitar

Adam Jones is GOD
04-05-2005, 12:14 PM
On a side note, the 'Get Ben to buy Opeth CDs' campaign worked today. I picke dup Blackwater Park and Still Life for under £15.

Only listened to the first so far, but best moments in first listen

Bleak (vocal melody :drool: )
The Drapery Falls
Blackwater Park (its so deliciously evil)

They are stand out moments from first listen. And I never take it all in first time, so it looks promising so far.

Rothmans
04-05-2005, 12:15 PM
On a side note, the 'Get Ben to buy Opeth CDs' campaign worked today. I picke dup Blackwater Park and Still Life for under £15.

Only listened to the first so far, but best moments in first listen

Bleak (vocal melody :drool: )
The Drapery Falls
Blackwater Park (its so deliciously evil)

They are stand out moments from first listen. And I never take it all in first time, so it looks promising so far.
I personnaly think Still life is better. Harvest is the bst song on BWP IMO or the first song.

The JoZ
04-05-2005, 12:15 PM
On the oklohoma vid it seems he is playin guitar or bass or sitar

There is no sitar in Schism.

Adam Jones is GOD
04-05-2005, 12:16 PM
I personnaly think Still life is better. Harvest is the bst song on BWP IMO or the first song.

I have yet to listen to Still Life. i have a major headache today, so im not really in a music mood. But i've heard its the best. (hell, even Iai likes it, and he doesnt like any R&M :p )

Rothmans
04-05-2005, 12:26 PM
I have yet to listen to Still Life. i have a major headache today, so im not really in a music mood. But i've heard its the best. (hell, even Iai likes it, and he doesnt like any R&M :p )
It is the best album but everyone loves BWP for some reason Still Life is amazing (but im not a big opeth fan they kinda base themselves on the same formula IMO)

clearvision
04-05-2005, 12:27 PM
dirge for novembers lead lick is cum-worthy.

Rothmans
04-05-2005, 12:29 PM
There is no sitar in Schism.
I meant maybe and now when i read back that was a foolish post...

Adam Jones is GOD
04-05-2005, 12:30 PM
dirge for novembers lead lick is cum-worthy.

Well you just put me off that song forever.

Trouble is with listening to an album on an MP3 player for the first time, its hard to keep track of what track is what.

clearvision
04-05-2005, 12:34 PM
:lol: Does anyone know where to find some MP3 tool backing tracks? I'm bored and wanna record some covers, the patient would be good, and sober...

Rothmans
04-05-2005, 12:38 PM
Well you just put me off that song forever.

Trouble is with listening to an album on an MP3 player for the first time, its hard to keep track of what track is what.

Yeah but sometimes you know when the song is over but they are like an album band anyway

Adam Jones is GOD
04-05-2005, 12:39 PM
I've never seen any tool backing tracks around. Just get JoZ and SFK to lay down the bass and drums for you. Im sure they would like to help all us guitarists out by doing so.

(Just realising how cool it would be to jam with them two)

clearvision
04-05-2005, 12:40 PM
^Amen...then we find out Kage is a master at maynard impression :lol:

Adam Jones is GOD
04-05-2005, 12:42 PM
Kage has a lot to live up to then, best get those electronic implants. Tool can work with two guitarists I always think.

The JoZ
04-05-2005, 12:47 PM
I've never seen any tool backing tracks around. Just get JoZ and SFK to lay down the bass and drums for you. Im sure they would like to help all us guitarists out by doing so.

(Just realising how cool it would be to jam with them two)


I am up for doing it, but if I don't know the song fully, it might take me a short amount of time to learn it, cause as may come to a surprise, I don't know *every* Tool song, just most :D

clearvision
04-05-2005, 12:47 PM
:lol: It's a shame there's probably 50 that have posted here, i say the two with the highest amount of posts gets the positions hehehe...

That would be soopa cool if people started doing recordings and then mixing them with other peoples and making backing tracks etc...

Adam Jones is GOD
04-05-2005, 12:49 PM
I've been trying to record stuff for yonks, and now that im making progress with software, my soundcard dies.

And we all know that High postcount = Better playing ability :p

Daven
04-05-2005, 12:50 PM
that sucks

clearvision
04-05-2005, 12:51 PM
^ Better get posting :p

The JoZ
04-05-2005, 12:53 PM
I've been trying to record stuff for yonks, and now that im making progress with software, my soundcard dies.

And we all know that High postcount = Better playing ability :p

:p

Either way, I could definetly do some stuff for people, but I really think I should do it when I bring my amp back home, instead of direct in, it will sound better, hopefully...

clearvision
04-05-2005, 12:55 PM
Cool, good to know you're in hehe. Won't the quality be better going straight in, instead of through a mic? or would you go line in off your amp?

Huber
04-05-2005, 12:58 PM
Guitars sound confusing.

Daven
04-05-2005, 01:07 PM
^ Better get posting :p

dont worry. i will

IvortheEngineDriver
04-05-2005, 02:12 PM
I'm trying to get my band to play Crawl Away and Undertow, but our drummer sucks. You think its good to do those songs and not have a drummer that does the same as Danny Carey?

I'm kinda perplexed. I love Tool more than anything and we can't do any Tool songs because our drummer sucks...I'm not sure what to do...suggestions?

the2stranger
04-05-2005, 02:14 PM
wow, this moves fast.
playing all the instrumental parts ok, is a chalenge, but to find anyone with a voice like MJK,, that ain't gonna happen methinks

Huber
04-05-2005, 02:16 PM
I'm trying to get my band to play Crawl Away and Undertow, but our drummer sucks. You think its good to do those songs and not have a drummer that does the same as Danny Carey?

I'm kinda perplexed. I love Tool more than anything and we can't do any Tool songs because our drummer sucks...I'm not sure what to do...suggestions?

Let him add his own style to it. Make the cover your own.

The JoZ
04-05-2005, 02:30 PM
Those songs aren't even that hard, as far as Danny's drumming goes.

Try getting him to do Aenima, or Third Eye, or The Grudge. :lol:

Huber
04-05-2005, 02:49 PM
Those songs aren't even that hard, as far as Danny's drumming goes.

Try getting him to do Aenima, or Third Eye, or The Grudge. :lol:

The Grudge Solo is a work of art.

The JoZ
04-05-2005, 03:22 PM
The Grudge Solo is a work of art.

Best 31 seconds of music IMO.

freaks_refuge
04-05-2005, 03:22 PM
Iapologise if you've already covered this topic but I don't have time to read through the last 20 pages of this thread as I'm late for work.
Has everyone heard the alice in chains bootlegs with maynard singing?? They're on toolshed
What did everyone think of em? I thought they were ****in ace but then again tool and aic are my 2 fave bands....

TheSubtleArts
04-05-2005, 03:57 PM
i heard them, they were great, he did the best on Man in the Box i thought. some of the other singers on Rooster werent so good IMO, but MJK was great

Kage
04-05-2005, 03:59 PM
New rule: All newbs who come in here MUST read all 200+ pages before posting. :thumb:

I heard them, it was cool but I'm not a very big AIC fan, so it was average for me. Someone put up the videos a few pages back, not sure if the links will still be available though.

Shadius
04-05-2005, 04:00 PM
I've been away for a while from these forums, got a new computer and junk, but I just want to say:

ROFL@Maynard.

You'd think a lot of fans would realise that Tool ****s with us, especially when a new album's about to be released. Anyone think that it's possible the album will actually be released EARLY to suprise fans even more?

clearvision
04-05-2005, 04:06 PM
^Erm, no? :lol: It's not gnna just be sprung on us, Kabir/Blair will no and tell us a release date about a month or two in advance..

NP : Peach - Giving birth to a stone :)

Shadius
04-05-2005, 04:13 PM
^Erm, no? :lol: It's not gnna just be sprung on us, Kabir/Blair will no and tell us a release date about a month or two in advance..

NP : Peach - Giving birth to a stone :)

Because they're so reliable, arn't they. Haha.

I'm not doubting you're probably right, but an early release along with this prank would be cool.

clearvision
04-05-2005, 04:17 PM
Well Blair is a good friend of the band. And Kabir is a dedicated fan, whom maynard is in contact with.

Shadius
04-05-2005, 04:23 PM
Well Blair is a good friend of the band. And Kabir is a dedicated fan, whom maynard is in contact with.

This I know.

Off topic, does anyone know any secret areas on the Tool website? You know? Like the http://www.toolband.com/secrets/renne/main.html thing? I found that ages ago randomly, and it made me wonder if there was anything else hidden on the Tool website. Sorry if it's already been covered.

+zero+
04-05-2005, 05:12 PM
whens the new tool cd come out.. i heard like the end of this year but **** i dont know

+zero+
04-05-2005, 05:15 PM
oh and about the drums thing ide suggest playing some of tools older stuff cuz it was alot more basic yet still very hard. but there newer stuff is like drum solos left and right.if he gets good enough he should be able to play undertow eventually

+zero+
04-05-2005, 05:18 PM
Let him add his own style to it. Make the cover your own.



i would definitely in my opinion go against what you said there. it pisses me off cuz the most popular band in our town is a cover band and doesnt play half the stuff rite .. and its basic stuff like green day blink 182 etc. so i mean if tehres a fill you cant figure its one thing but just completely making up the whole song, i shake my head at that one.

clearvision
04-05-2005, 05:20 PM
Doesn't a solo mean the whole music focusing on the drummer? I don't think that happens much. We have no news on the album, we were talking about it on this page, please atleast read the last page when posting!

Darkness
04-05-2005, 05:32 PM
And we all know that High postcount = Better playing ability :p

Wow... I really suck at guitar...

Edit: oh and I thought you guys would enjoy this picture of our hero, The 'Nard.

Maynard At Constantine Movie Premier (http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/constantine/maynard_james_keenan/constantinepred3.jpg)

SeAmoNKeY
04-05-2005, 07:10 PM
^^^^
dare i ask who the lady next to him is?

Darkness
04-05-2005, 07:20 PM
Yes, her name is Amber Bell and I have no idea who she is.

X3R0
04-05-2005, 07:24 PM
whens the new tool cd come out.. i heard like the end of this year but **** i dont know

at the pace their going now for making albums their probably make only 3 more and then they will retire or something

SeAmoNKeY
04-05-2005, 07:56 PM
Unfortunately i was gone for the majority of the great wave of bootleg generosity that engulfed this thread. Does anyone have the heart to upload one of the concerts again? Or MSN it to me. Please...

Kage
04-05-2005, 08:14 PM
Anyone think that it's possible the album will actually be released EARLY to suprise fans even more?

Interesting that you mention that, becaues I've thought abou it but realized it's unlikely, mainly because their record company would not allow it. They'll want the maximum time for promotion and building anticipation as possible.

x the patient x6
04-05-2005, 08:51 PM
some people were talking about the synth and such

and i know its Adam, he plays Relfection with his foot live

and Jonny Greenwood plays Planet Telex live with the head of his guitar on the keys of the keyboard, its awesome to see

ok later

BlindWriting
04-05-2005, 10:04 PM
All right. I gotta say.
I know I've bashed people for being concerned about the whole Maynard/Jesus thing, so I feel like a complete hypocrite when I say that I'm starting to feel a bit nervous about the whole thing.

Kage
04-05-2005, 10:09 PM
Eh, I'm not worried at all. If it is true, then I think Maynard may be the biggest ignorant prick in the world.

But it's not. Tool is known for joking around with their fans. I just wish they would have come up with something better for this April Fool's.

jensmatty
04-05-2005, 10:24 PM
Interesting that you mention that, becaues I've thought abou it but realized it's unlikely, mainly because their record company would not allow it. They'll want the maximum time for promotion and building anticipation as possible.

Since when has Tool done what their record company wants?

misunderstood
04-05-2005, 10:36 PM
^^Well, i don't think they have much choice sometimes.

Werny
04-05-2005, 11:40 PM
JoZ said somewhere back that it'd be hardcore to have a fulltime keyboard/synth player for Tool. I was thinking that just yesterday! Imagine Reflection, Lateralus and The Patient with keyboard... ooooh. And Third Eye too.

But since the next album is more brutal, semi-death metal, I guess keyboard's won't work.

Huber
04-05-2005, 11:41 PM
I wouldn't go as far as calling it even semi-death metal. I wouldn't like that at all.

The JoZ
04-06-2005, 12:08 AM
JoZ said somewhere back that it'd be hardcore to have a fulltime keyboard/synth player for Tool. I was thinking that just yesterday! Imagine Reflection, Lateralus and The Patient with keyboard... ooooh. And Third Eye too.

Those tracks definetly could benefit from a keyboard.

Not that the songs are bad or lacking as they are, but the extra synth would only make it better...

But since the next album is more brutal, semi-death metal, I guess keyboard's won't work.

Heavier? Oh yes.

Death metal? Never.

Huber
04-06-2005, 12:11 AM
When I think of Tool making their music a little more heavier, I think Ticks and Leeches style.

The JoZ
04-06-2005, 12:13 AM
When I think of Tool making their music a little more heavier, I think Ticks and Leeches style.

Agreed.

Or end of The Grudge heavier.

It will be very interesting to see what "heavier" means for Tool.

I think it will mean more crushing walls of sound, and bigger sonic landscapes rather than chugging riffage.

mudvayne420
04-06-2005, 12:38 AM
i think the new album will be like probably how Aenema was, but in a ticks and leeches style. Since that song wan't about the lateralus type stuff.
srry but i have to say that if maynard found jesus then well, i guess the world would end. also i think that their version of heavier could be more dynamical, and chilled out, and longer songs.
And with the salival cd i like third eye live a little bit but, i think they could've done the end like the album version instead of maynard only sayin " prying open my third eye" 4 times. and pu**** i like it, because the intro and how they go from the modified version to the original.

jensmatty
04-06-2005, 01:59 AM
^^Well, i don't think they have much choice sometimes.

At one point didn't they stop recording one of their album and refused to play because their record company was ****ing them around too much? At least I think I read that somewhere... could be bullshit.

Joelbassman
04-06-2005, 02:20 AM
On the whole Maynard/Jesus issue...I don't care if he has found Jesus...What pisses me off, is that he "abandoned the project altogether"...

Huber
04-06-2005, 02:38 AM
But he didn't, it was a joke. So in other words, that's irrelevant.

G_Mac07
04-06-2005, 05:16 AM
It will be very interesting to see what "heavier" means for Tool.

I think it will mean more crushing walls of sound, and bigger sonic landscapes rather than chugging riffage.

Heh, you took my thoughts and put them into words I couldn't find. I'm thinking the new album will also have numerous songs that will be considered epic, if the album itself isn't dubbed that first.

bassist-bmxer
04-06-2005, 05:53 AM
Yeah so my band are covering schism, i have gone over it with my guitarist and we have it pretty tight, i just really want a whammy pedal now for the bridge bit, as the one on my zoom multi-effects mucks up my tone.

Rothmans
04-06-2005, 06:05 AM
[QUOTE=The JoZ]Those tracks definetly could benefit from a keyboard.
Not that the songs are bad or lacking as they are, but the extra synth would only make it better...[QUOTE]

Well people can use keyboards too much i still think it would be deadly but if they did lets hope they dont go overboard with it.

the2stranger
04-06-2005, 06:15 AM
I don't think they will overdo it.
I mean every cd is so balanced, so why wouldn't they balance it out when they hacve an active synthplayer?

Adam Jones is GOD
04-06-2005, 06:34 AM
Wow... I really suck at guitar...

Edit: oh and I thought you guys would enjoy this picture of our hero, The 'Nard.

Maynard At Constantine Movie Premier (http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/constantine/maynard_james_keenan/constantinepred3.jpg)

I finally got to see that last night. I love the take on the Good Vs Evil stuff. And 4 people headbanging in a cinema when Passive came on was quite cool too.

bassist-bmxer
04-06-2005, 06:39 AM
Oh yeah, i saw Constantine the other day and when it finished and the end music came on, i was like......"wait.. thats tool!" is it a new song?

clearvision
04-06-2005, 08:51 AM
It's passive, It's on a perfect circles latest release, emotive. It's a cover of a song Maynard wrote with trent reznor for the tapeworm project...google it/search this thread for more info...

...In other new, AJIG's avatar dances perfectly to Nin's - The day the world went away.

Kage
04-06-2005, 09:06 AM
That's awesome...I'm glad you're listening to The Fragile.

I think Tool's new "heaviness" will not be Ticks and Leeches style, but rather a concentration on, like Joz said, sonic landscapes and dynamic shifts.

TheSubtleArts
04-06-2005, 02:17 PM
i think heavyness in music as in the delivery of it (for lack of a better word). but yea pretty much what Joz and Kage said.

Kage
04-06-2005, 03:06 PM
If you take Patient for example, that's a really melodic and somewhat mellow song, yet it's heavy because of that huge build-up of tension and then it explodes into the distorted section, and it sounds really heavy.

Adam Jones is GOD
04-06-2005, 03:10 PM
Tool's dynamics is what makes them heavy. And if a heavier approach means more dynamics, then its bliss for me.

Kage
04-06-2005, 03:11 PM
Tool's dynamics is what makes them heavy. And if a heavier approach means more dynamics, then its bliss for me.

123.

jamesclelland
04-06-2005, 03:46 PM
No, Adam does. I don't know how though.

He's got a foot controller for his synthesizer. each button produced a different tone, then for guitar (which was probably on the other channel) he played a real simple riff. i've seen it live adam is doing both at the same time.

The JoZ
04-06-2005, 04:01 PM
He's got a foot controller for his synthesizer. each button produced a different tone, then for guitar (which was probably on the other channel) he played a real simple riff. i've seen it live adam is doing both at the same time.

No, no...

I knew that.

What I meant, is, I don't know what technology/pedal he's using to get those tones. :thumb:

misunderstood
04-06-2005, 05:26 PM
Just found a very interesting interview between Maynard and a philosopher. Its back from 2001 so its a bit old and i'm not sure if anyone has read it before but if not, here it is:

http://www.cdicarlo.com/paper_04maynard.htm

I believe it was posted at the Tool Army site and well, I just got around to reading it. Anyway, it's a great interview where they discuss philosophy, Hitler, Religion, the media, Fibonacci sequence, etc, etc. They also talk quite a bit about many of Tool's songs and the meaning behind them like Stinkfist. Enjoy.

Podge
04-06-2005, 05:28 PM
ohoh maybe the reason we havn't heard anything about the whole maynard inncident since is because he's running for pope, so i say yeah maynard for pope, maybe he can fix the world and make people think, he has my vote but im not a cardinal so he doesn't really but if i was he would have :evil:

Kage
04-06-2005, 05:58 PM
:rolleyes:

joemarsh
04-06-2005, 07:20 PM
What is the origin of the Manyard/Jesus thing??

Magicaltroll
04-06-2005, 07:22 PM
ohoh maybe the reason we havn't heard anything about the whole maynard inncident since is because he's running for pope, so i say yeah maynard for pope, maybe he can fix the world and make people think, he has my vote but im not a cardinal so he doesn't really but if i was he would have :evil:
...

Anyway, that interview was pretty interesting... thanks.

joemarsh
04-06-2005, 07:22 PM
ohoh maybe the reason we havn't heard anything about the whole maynard inncident since is because he's running for pope, so i say yeah maynard for pope, maybe he can fix the world and make people think, he has my vote but im not a cardinal so he doesn't really but if i was he would have :evil:

thats funny because he played satan in the Bikini Bandits experience

Raider
04-06-2005, 07:22 PM
Just found a very interesting interview between Maynard and a philosopher. Its back from 2001 so its a bit old and i'm not sure if anyone has read it before but if not, here it is:

http://www.cdicarlo.com/paper_04maynard.htm

I believe it was posted at the Tool Army site and well, I just got around to reading it. Anyway, it's a great interview where they discuss philosophy, Hitler, Religion, the media, Fibonacci sequence, etc, etc. They also talk quite a bit about many of Tool's songs and the meaning behind them like Stinkfist. Enjoy.
Very good interview, but I don't like how they portrayed Maynard as "not well read" and "not very literate"

Darkness
04-06-2005, 07:32 PM
Yeah thats weird...

Anarchy_In_Mexico
04-06-2005, 07:39 PM
Just found a very interesting interview between Maynard and a philosopher. Its back from 2001 so its a bit old and i'm not sure if anyone has read it before but if not, here it is:

http://www.cdicarlo.com/paper_04maynard.htm

I believe it was posted at the Tool Army site and well, I just got around to reading it. Anyway, it's a great interview where they discuss philosophy, Hitler, Religion, the media, Fibonacci sequence, etc, etc. They also talk quite a bit about many of Tool's songs and the meaning behind them like Stinkfist. Enjoy.

very good read

Anarchy_In_Mexico
04-06-2005, 07:40 PM
Very good interview, but I don't like how they portrayed Maynard as "not well read" and "not very literate"

well he said it, thats how he wanted to e protrayed (sp?)

Huber
04-06-2005, 07:53 PM
That was a good read. It was nice to see someone intelligent interview Maynard instead of some TV bum.

One Groovin Clown
04-06-2005, 08:24 PM
I had to write a speech for my class. So for the last week i've been writing it on the greates thing ever, Tool. I kept the information relatively simple, seeing how i don't think that people are ready for a mother load of info. about them, plus it has to be between 3-5 minutes long. I went through each member saying a bit about their past. Then i went into each of the albums, i am pretty proud of my work and i thoguht i'd just like to say that, so ya. :cool:

Darkness
04-06-2005, 08:35 PM
^ you should post it sometime for us to see. :)

Dried Muffin Remnants
04-06-2005, 08:38 PM
I remember I wrote a spanish composition on Alice in Chains and Tool. It's always nice to write about something that you love and something of which you know a lot about.

Daven
04-06-2005, 08:55 PM
is toology (dvd) good? i want to buy it but i want to know if its good

thats the only dvd they have?

Otherside
04-06-2005, 08:56 PM
Do. Not. Buy. That. DVD.

Drum_and_Bass_Guy89
04-06-2005, 09:03 PM
Yeh, I wanna noe where I could find Salival I heard its extremely rare

misunderstood
04-06-2005, 09:08 PM
ebay! ...It's also extremely expensive sometimes

Sleeper
04-06-2005, 09:11 PM
I found Salival in a used book store, got it cheap too.

misunderstood
04-06-2005, 09:19 PM
ahh, lucky you. I always look for it where ever I go hoping that I'll be lucky enough to find it but nooo. :upset:

Kage
04-06-2005, 09:24 PM
Well, that's about as lucky as it gets.

TrainTakeMeHome
04-06-2005, 09:31 PM
is toology (dvd) good? i want to buy it but i want to know if its good

thats the only dvd they have?
It's not even released by Tool, it's mostly a bunch of made up BS. They don't even pronounce the album names properly.

Enima? Onima? Annima?

Huber
04-06-2005, 09:33 PM
I pronounce it Eh-nih-mah

TrainTakeMeHome
04-06-2005, 09:34 PM
It's properly pronounced Onima. Or that's how the band pronounces it from what I've heard.

Knifeboy
04-06-2005, 09:34 PM
I pronounce it... ænima... .. *is danish*

Dried Muffin Remnants
04-06-2005, 09:39 PM
The album is supposed to be Anima which is pronounced Onima, you're right. But everybody including Danny Carey pronounces the name "Enema" which is only supposed to be how the song-title is pronounced.

Kage
04-06-2005, 09:43 PM
Onima as in Oh-neema or uh-neema? I pronounce it the latter, and have had reliable sources tell me it's that as well.

Huber
04-06-2005, 09:44 PM
Yeah, uh-ni-mah sounds better. That's what I was going for.

extreme_191
04-06-2005, 09:45 PM
That interview was excellant. Maynard's brilliant. When they compared the concept of Stinkfist to Sept.11th, I was overwhelmed. That interview made me think about my role in life and as a musician. I'm going to tae a completely different approach to writing.

Has anyone come across someone that didn't believe the scream in the Grudge was even real? I know of three friends, one being my brother, that denied the idea completely.

Also, can Maynard sream even longer in concert? My friend said so, and I declined the idea right when I heard it. To me Maynard has always been the strongest singer to me, but the actual recording seems like quite the feat.

Anarchy_In_Mexico
04-06-2005, 09:45 PM
i found salival at Amoeba in Los Angeles,CA for $18, but it didn't have the dvd :(

Dried Muffin Remnants
04-06-2005, 09:49 PM
No Quarter was the best part of Salival, IMO. Yes, I liked it even more than Third Eye live.

Anarchy_In_Mexico
04-06-2005, 09:51 PM
That interview was excellant. Maynard's brilliant. When they compared the concept of Stinkfist to Sept.11th, I was overwhelmed. That interview made me think about my role in life and as a musician. I'm going to tae a completely different approach to writing.

Has anyone come across someone that didn't believe the scream in the Grudge was even real? I know of three friends, one being my brother, that denied the idea completely.

Also, can Maynard sream even longer in concert? My friend said so, and I declined the idea right when I heard it. To me Maynard has always been the strongest singer to me, but the actual recording seems like quite the feat.

yeah my brother alsow thinks its fake, they say that the camera points at maynard at the oklahoma concert, so you could have your proof there, and if you manage to get it you could always pass it on :D

Kage
04-06-2005, 10:00 PM
No Quarter was the best part of Salival, IMO. Yes, I liked it even more than Third Eye live.

haha, I like how you warded us off before we could even say anything. :p (the Third Eye lovers, I mean)

Dried Muffin Remnants
04-06-2005, 10:02 PM
I've always thought of Chris Cornell as the strongest singer and Maynard's as the most melodic, but if that's true about the scream then ****... pretty impressive.

omgwtfboogie
04-06-2005, 10:07 PM
Onima as in Oh-neema or uh-neema? I pronounce it the latter, and have had reliable sources tell me it's that as well.
Aw-nee-muh

Or so Maynard says in various interviews.

misunderstood
04-06-2005, 10:27 PM
http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/view?&h=97&w=130&type=realmedia&vurl=boss.streamos.com%2Freal%2Fvirg001%2Fa_perfec t_circle%2Fmer_de_noms%2Fvideo%2Fwebcast_300.ram&back=p%3Da%2Bperfect%2Bcircle%26sm%3DYahoo%2521%2B Search%26toggle%3D1%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3DFP-tab-web-t&rurl=www.aperfectcircle.com%2Fvideo.html&turl=scd.mm-so.yimg.com%2Fimage%2F1504908239&name=webcast_300.ram&no=8&tt=53&p=a+perfect+circle&size=24.1MB&dur=3470&pld=780x515

I know thats an APC video BUT Maynard does mention aenima in there at about 2:18 of the video (Stories Behind the Songs)...Just thougth I'd post this since there seems to be some confusion on how it's pronounced.

extreme_191
04-06-2005, 10:28 PM
Cornell can sure belt it out, or at least he could, but Maynard just seems that much stronger.

And for all those Third Eye lovers out there, I salute you \m/ \m/

I actually listened to that song twice today. Unfortunately I haven't heard a second from Salival. I'm not willimng to spend over $50 for one cd, no matter how good it is.

Kage
04-06-2005, 10:28 PM
Eh, I'll continue to pronounce it how I want :P

Kage
04-06-2005, 10:29 PM
Cornell can sure belt it out, or at least he could, but Maynard just seems that much stronger.

And for all those Third Eye lovers out there, I salute you \m/ \m/

I actually listened to that song twice today. Unfortunately I haven't heard a second from Salival. I'm not willimng to spend over $50 for one cd, no matter how good it is.

You should download the highlights of it --- Third Eye live and No Quarter.

extreme_191
04-06-2005, 10:34 PM
sadly, my father doesn't allow music download systems for I leaked a virus onto our computer. I hope to see them, if they come to Vancouver.

I can only wish. If they tour with Meshuggah, that will be the best day of my life. And I mean that.

G_Mac07
04-06-2005, 10:36 PM
sadly, my father doesn't allow music download systems for I leaked a virus onto our computer. I hope to see them, if they come to Vancouver.

I can only wish. If they tour with Meshuggah, that will be the best day of my life. And I mean that.

Someone could upload them for you using yousendit, I will if noone does before I get more internet credit.

Kage
04-06-2005, 10:43 PM
I would, but I'm extremely busy at the moment with a big paper that's due tomorow. Procrastinating as usual. If you want, I can upload them tomorow if someone doesn't before that.

misunderstood
04-06-2005, 10:55 PM
**** those papers..i've got one to do as well for pyschology..and an exam for journalism! Should be studying.

extreme_191
04-06-2005, 11:17 PM
That's much appreciated. You can find my e-mail under my profile, obviously.

Good luck with the paper. \m/

misunderstood
04-07-2005, 12:49 AM
www.toolband.com

Joke's over.

planet_caravan
04-07-2005, 01:38 AM
can i add...does any one think a perfect circle is a faster version of tool

Berty
04-07-2005, 02:55 AM
No. That doesn't really make any sense.

joemarsh
04-07-2005, 06:41 AM
not as funny as the bus accident

deadvoodoodoll
04-07-2005, 08:05 AM
dose anyone have any info on Maynard quiting tool for religon? is it true and if it is what will happen to APC? sorry if somebody already ask this, i just didn't feel like reading the whole thread

i hope it's not true :upset:

munky_magik
04-07-2005, 08:07 AM
dose anyone have any info on Maynard quiting tool for religon? is it true and if it is what will happen to APC? sorry if somebody already ask this, i just didn't feel like reading the whole thread

i hope it's not true :upset:
It was an April Fools joke.

Adam Jones is GOD
04-07-2005, 08:11 AM
dose anyone have any info on Maynard quiting tool for religon? is it true and if it is what will happen to APC? sorry if somebody already ask this, i just didn't feel like reading the whole thread

i hope it's not true :upset:

Official Announcment on main page (http://www.toolband.com/news/index.html)

Screenshot of the announcement (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Moogle66/Toolannouncement.bmp)

UG's article (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/tool_joke.html)

Good old reliable MTV (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1499613/04052005/tool.jhtml?headlines=true)

Im now using this post for everytime that question is asked.

Kage
04-07-2005, 08:45 AM
Okay, hopefully the official announcement of hte April Fool's joke will deter some of these people asking about it.

The April Fool's confirmation was a lot better than the initial joke, at least.

Otherside
04-07-2005, 09:03 AM
I think it was funny that MTV wrote an article about it.

Shadius
04-07-2005, 09:19 AM
Haha, MJK rocks.

One Step Beyond
04-07-2005, 09:26 AM
Maynard is never leaving for religion, I don't think we have to worry about that.

clearvision
04-07-2005, 12:46 PM
:lol: I can't believe people believed that, Blair even mentioned april fool in the post. I just thought he was saying it to excuse a delay in the release. But, tool has just attracted major attention to itself, could this be build up to the release?

Huber
04-07-2005, 12:50 PM
can i add...does any one think a perfect circle is a faster version of tool


No, it's not an anything version of Tool. A Perfect Circle is a group of guys who came together to write a different kind of music then they were in their previous bands. For Maynard, this meant a more simple lyrical style. It creates "a perfect circle" for the musicians' careers, hence the name of the band.

Edit: Sorry that was kinda off topic. I accidently clicked the "view next un-seen post" instead of the thread title and thought that was on the latest page.

Dried Muffin Remnants
04-07-2005, 02:37 PM
A Perfect Circle has much more of a catchier sound than Tool does, for the most part. Also Tool is a lot heavier.

On the April Fools thing, I could see people falling for it. I mean, I don't expect casual fans to know about the whole anti-organized religion theme. It certainly isn't blatant when you just listen to their songs. However, some of us read up more on Tool suspected this, because we've seen more interviews and $hit. I don't really think it's fair to point and laugh at those who fell for it. (However, I did do that to a big Tool fan, LOL)

Adam Jones is GOD
04-07-2005, 02:38 PM
I dont laugh at those who fell for it. I do get annoyed at those who are still asking whther its true or not after an explanation has been posted

the2stranger
04-07-2005, 02:43 PM
those who need to ask, aren't real fans, I think.
just read a few of MJK's lyrics, that should tell them enough.
MJK leaving cause he's found God? :lol:

they should update us on how far their album is after this 'major shock' :p

/excited for the new album

BlindWriting
04-07-2005, 02:59 PM
:lol:
So after an entire night of G.I. Blowouts, hot/cold sweats, and blurred vision, it's very possible that the guy I met wasn't even Jesus at all. For all I know, it was Willem Dafoe."
Today was already a great day, and coming home to this made it all the better.

comeoverandhelpmepunchme
04-07-2005, 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by deadvoodoodoll
dose anyone have any info on Maynard quiting tool for religon? is it true and if it is what will happen to APC? sorry if somebody already ask this, i just didn't feel like reading the whole thread

i hope it's not true

you jackass,
that was just MJK making fun of head from korn he says in a interveiw that it might have just been William Dafoe. for everyone who didnt get that he played jesus in The Last Temtation Of Christ

ChimPz
04-07-2005, 05:21 PM
This isn't really about Tool or APC but has anyone heard of a band called Feersum Enjinn?
It's a project from Paul D'Amour.
They play something in a style similar to Tools.

Problem is, it's nearly impossible to find. Does anyone know where you can find mp3's. Even directions towards someone who does know are welcome.

The JoZ
04-07-2005, 05:39 PM
Seriously, can we stop talking about the Maynard and Jesus thing?

It was an April Fool's Joke. Period. Discuss other Tool related things, not that anymore, please.

To Chimpz, the only project I ever heard Paul do after Tool was Lusk...so...never heard of that new project of his.

pigonthewing82
04-07-2005, 06:57 PM
those who need to ask, aren't real fans, I think.
just read a few of MJK's lyrics, that should tell them enough.
MJK leaving cause he's found God? :lol:

they should update us on how far their album is after this 'major shock' :p

/excited for the new album

:lol: I love MJK's sense of humor. Yeah I can't wait for the new album, they are going to do a tour right? Yeah I listen to a lot of classic rock so its would be nice to go to a non reunion tour where all member still have their original members and hair.

Kage
04-07-2005, 07:01 PM
That was funny seeing April Fool's Joke in huge font as the page opened. Thank you though, I'm getting really sick of talking about that crap.

The JoZ
04-07-2005, 07:08 PM
That was funny seeing April Fool's Joke in huge font as the page opened. Thank you though, I'm getting really sick of talking about that crap.

Sorry, it just pisses me off how people won't let certain things go, especially after they have been discussed to death.

Kage
04-07-2005, 07:12 PM
I agree wholehartedly. For awhile we had at least 2 people a day coming in here and asking about it.

The JoZ
04-07-2005, 07:20 PM
I mean, when people are posting articles about how false it was...yeah...

Besides, I feel that no true Tool fan would've fallen for this.

Magicaltroll
04-07-2005, 08:13 PM
I know, seriously, that was the worst, most unconvincing thing I have ever read/seen.

The JoZ
04-07-2005, 09:17 PM
I mean, I first thought the thing with Head from Korn was a joke too. But it quickly became apparent that it was real.

...If this, or any other bizarre/surreal news involving Tool was real, we'd know it was real pretty fast too.

pigonthewing82
04-07-2005, 09:25 PM
I mean, I first thought the thing with Head from Korn was a joke too. But it quickly became apparent that it was real.

...If this, or any other bizarre/surreal news involving Tool was real, we'd know it was real pretty fast too.

I think we would know because well when Head left there were tons of threads done about it. I have a feeling more people would be pissed about MJK leaving Tool then Head leaving Korn.

But anyway, not to ask twice, but does anybody know about the tour, or where I can go to get information about it? I just really want to see them live I have heard they put on one hell of a show, and the live stuff I have off Saliva is too great, but too few.

TrainTakeMeHome
04-07-2005, 09:36 PM
No tour has been announced yet, expect to see more information on it once the new album is coming out.

The JoZ
04-07-2005, 09:40 PM
I think we would know because well when Head left there were tons of threads done about it. I have a feeling more people would be pissed about MJK leaving Tool then Head leaving Korn.

It's not the number of threads about it that matters.

It's when it gets attributed to multiple news sources everywhere. Sure, MTV.com had it up there, but Blabbermouth put up that it was a joke. Plus the way that TDN and Toolband were updated, they didn't sound...serious. When Brian left Korn, the post on their site was very serious.

But anyway, not to ask twice, but does anybody know about the tour, or where I can go to get information about it? I just really want to see them live I have heard they put on one hell of a show, and the live stuff I have off Salival is too great, but too few.

There hasn't been any information about any forthcoming tours yet.

We don't even know when the new album is coming out yet.

Rothmans
04-07-2005, 09:48 PM
you jackass,
that was just MJK making fun of head from korn he says in a interveiw that it might have just been William Dafoe. for everyone who didnt get that he played jesus in The Last Temtation Of Christ
Why would he make fun of Head??
There is no reason to and it was only an april fool's and dont call your man a jackass he was only asking a question, yeah it may get annoying but dont get worked up about it

pigonthewing82
04-07-2005, 09:56 PM
There hasn't been any information about any forthcoming tours yet.

We don't even know when the new album is coming out yet.


Too bad, do you know any good bootlegs that I could buy while waiting.

TrainTakeMeHome
04-07-2005, 10:19 PM
Too bad, do you know any good bootlegs that I could buy while waiting.
There aren't a lot of great bootlegs out if you're looking for Lateralus stuff (there's mostly 92-94 stuff out there), but there are some excellent live shows being passed around the net. The Oklahoma City 2002 show which I introduced to the forums a few days ago is amazing, and now well loved by pretty much everyone who's been lucky enough to get it.

Kage
04-07-2005, 10:23 PM
been lucky enough to get it.

...is right

:angry:

The JoZ
04-07-2005, 10:23 PM
There aren't a lot of great bootlegs out if you're looking for Lateralus stuff (there's mostly 92-94 stuff out there), but there are some excellent live shows being passed around the net. The Oklahoma City 2002 show which I introduced to the forums a few days ago is amazing, and now well loved by pretty much everyone who's been lucky enough to get it.

I want it !

I must have Tool bootlegs!!

TrainTakeMeHome
04-08-2005, 12:04 AM
Alright, I'll upload Part 1 of the show to YSI again overnight tonight while I'm asleep.
I'll not post the link to it till the afternoon so it's still around while you all get back from school/work, it seems that a lot of people have missed out on it because those who can access the net during those hours eat up the link. I'll upload Part 2 sometime after that.

Huber
04-08-2005, 12:42 AM
Why would he make fun of Head??
There is no reason to and it was only an april fool's and dont call your man a jackass he was only asking a question, yeah it may get annoying but dont get worked up about it

I wouldn't say he's making fun of Head. A better way to put it is that he used the whole Head leaving Korn for Jesus thing as an inspiration for the April Fool's joke. Or, more practically, it could have just simply had nothing to do with Head and people just jumped to conclusions.

Werny
04-08-2005, 01:02 AM
Heavier? Oh yes.

Death metal? Never.

Note that Tool said they have been influenced by Meshuggah and Fantomas. That doesn't exactly mean more sweeping epic songs with huge soundscapes. To me that means crazy screaming, mega super duper fast drumming and extremely messed up soloes. And Danny said it's more brutal.

But, you know, I've been listening to some good old Yes recently, and yeah I do think that Tool would be much better if they kept up with the awesome soundscapes and sounds.

Merkaba
04-08-2005, 01:11 AM
Hey did Maynard quit tool for religion??? No way....Nooo!




just kidding. But i did just hear about it today...the guy at work was like....i was looking for you...Did you hear about this....I read it and laughed...I was like I know thats b.s. I said...even if he did...that would be his dumbazz fault. I didnt really think about it being april. I said It was probably a joke slanted at Korn...I know tool kicks korns arse and maynard is waaaayyy smarter than ...hell...whatever his name is...Jonathan....obviously. Oh I found jesus...he was under the cushions of the couch!!

mudvayne420
04-08-2005, 01:19 AM
its funny seeing how people will believe anything they see"maynard found jesus." but, those who know better well we knew it wasn't true thats just not MJK. plus IMO he would probably be a hypocrit if he did

Huber
04-08-2005, 02:24 AM
Maynard wouldn't let himself become a hypocrite.

horseman
04-08-2005, 04:19 AM
true true

io did fall for it tho for a moment...im an idiot...then again, maynard probs would do sumthin that stupid like go be a buddhist or a shaolin monk for kicks and ideas for da nu album

The JoZ
04-08-2005, 06:33 AM
Note that Tool said they have been influenced by Meshuggah and Fantomas. That doesn't exactly mean more sweeping epic songs with huge soundscapes. To me that means crazy screaming, mega super duper fast drumming and extremely messed up soloes. And Danny said it's more brutal.

But, you know, I've been listening to some good old Yes recently, and yeah I do think that Tool would be much better if they kept up with the awesome soundscapes and sounds.

But isn't Fantomas noted for doing alot of weird ambient ****?

So

Technical Death Metal + Weird Ambience = Tool.

I'd take it.

jamesclelland
04-08-2005, 10:43 AM
i hope there next album doesn't have the hooker with a *****/tick and leeches sound all the way through, but i would still buy it.
realisticly (sp?) that is what there talking about, and the heavy songs on the album are good, but i need the lateralus, patient sound too. like i said though unless they have completely lost there sound, i will still pick it up.

the2stranger
04-08-2005, 10:52 AM
that doesn't really make sense to me :confused:

but I just want the new album :p

incubliss
04-08-2005, 10:56 AM
But isn't Fantomas noted for doing alot of weird ambient ****?

So

Technical Death Metal + Weird Ambience = Tool.

I'd take it.

no Fantomas only really did one ambient piece, their new stuff is crazy.

Meshuggah are mad, and they just take the piss on the time signatures thing. it seems it's the only thing they can do, is have weird time signatures to their riffs.

hmmm, i just want to hear one song, to see what they're like now. i have 100% faith i'll love it, and i trust Tool. just gotta wait now.

Dried Muffin Remnants
04-08-2005, 02:18 PM
i hope there next album doesn't have the hooker with a *****/tick and leeches sound all the way through, but i would still buy it.
realisticly (sp?) that is what there talking about, and the heavy songs on the album are good, but i need the lateralus, patient sound too. like i said though unless they have completely lost there sound, i will still pick it up.

Ticks & Leeches is one of my favorites, but I would get bored of the album if all of the songs were like it

Rothmans
04-08-2005, 02:56 PM
Ticks & Leeches is one of my favorites, but I would get bored of the album if all of the songs were like it
I dont think there next album is gonna be like that it would be great but it is not.
They could be really heavy but not aggressive like opiate undertow not the heaviest albums but aggressive and lateralus is a lot more heavier than both of those album and there is only one real aggressive song.

Adam Jones is GOD
04-08-2005, 03:01 PM
Heavy is such an open term really.

For example:
1) some solo acoustic artists are heavy due to their lyrics. (though its best to call it dark)
2) Then heavy is also loud for some people
3) Then there is speed.
4) Dynamics
5) Vocal styles
6) Guitar Distortion
7) Drum patterns
8) Tunings

So many ways this album could be 'heavier'. My bet is with choices 4 and 7. Though 6 and 8 might take effect too.

clearvision
04-08-2005, 03:12 PM
As long as it's not 2) I'm good. By loud i suppose you mean saturated? Because all music can be loud if you turn up the volume... But saturated music is heavy on your ears whatever the volume...like meshuggah

Kurrpt
04-08-2005, 03:14 PM
i was in coconuts the other day (CD store) and i saw these TOoL tribute albums done in different styles of music?!?! no lie, any one see those yet?

Adam Jones is GOD
04-08-2005, 03:15 PM
Yeah, couldnt think of the word. But Tool doing at least one Meshuggah style song wouldnt be that bad...but I doubt Adam is capable of such speed.

Rothmans
04-08-2005, 03:17 PM
Yeah, couldnt think of the word. But Tool doing at least one Meshuggah style song wouldnt be that bad...but I doubt Adam is capable of such speed.
I wouldnt say he would be able and i kinda doubt Danny Carey a bit but he probably could do it.

And you are right about the heavy thing we wont know what they mean by heavy until it comes out hopefully it will be good

Adam Jones is GOD
04-08-2005, 03:18 PM
i was in coconuts the other day (CD store) and i saw these TOoL tribute albums done in different styles of music?!?! no lie, any one see those yet?

I have the 2nd string tribute, and have seen the covers one.

Plus my rcord store is now stocking the PLC album. i was tempted to buy it.

TrainTakeMeHome
04-08-2005, 03:36 PM
Here is, once again, Part 1 of the Oklahoma City 2002 show.

http://l1.yousendit.com/d.php?id=RSQZDV6OKZK49ZJB3CY43VKG

Good luck.

Adam Jones is GOD
04-08-2005, 03:43 PM
Link not working.

Which is annoying, as the second one was great. And I still havent got the whole of this part

Kurrpt
04-08-2005, 03:45 PM
I have the 2nd string tribute, and have seen the covers one.

Plus my rcord store is now stocking the PLC album. i was tempted to buy it.


i havent had sh*t thrown at me, by you in a while. Hows it going

Adam Jones is GOD
04-08-2005, 03:48 PM
/throws crap at you

(was that meant in jest or serious complaint btw?)


Things are fine in my world. Even better once I order my flange pedal (i have to order, as I cant pronounce the word properly in guitar stores for some reason)

Kurrpt
04-08-2005, 03:50 PM
/throws crap at you

(was that meant in jest or serious complaint btw?)


Things are fine in my world. Even better once I order my flange pedal (i have to order, as I cant pronounce the word properly in guitar stores for some reason)


nah it was a joke. you can hurl your excremate at me . its cool. at least you're funny. I just got that GNX4 (digitech best thing yet) I LOVE IT. friggin awesome. if only i had my own computer for mixing and what not. literally every tone imaginable

clearvision
04-08-2005, 04:01 PM
I have a zoom 606.../goes to hide

I just learnt the whole of third eye, the solo is so good (1st one with the amazing lick at 5:00)

You reckon the PLC album is good? It's all queued on Slsk :(.

Kurrpt
04-08-2005, 04:03 PM
i havent tried learning that yet. I eventually want to though. I want to get down the ænema version of push it. I just love the bits Adam plays that are real quiet like

Adam Jones is GOD
04-08-2005, 04:04 PM
Once I get tone worthy stuff (MGs are NOT tone worthy), ill get learning the better ones.

I really need an American to give me an opinion on PLC, as I havent heard much. I saw their video ages ago, and cant remember what I thouhgt of it. I know its nothing like Tool or APC though, and much simpler for Danny. (obvious I know, but this is real baisc stuff)

TrainTakeMeHome
04-08-2005, 04:05 PM
Link not working.

Which is annoying, as the second one was great. And I still havent got the whole of this part
Wow that's weird, no idea why the link doesn't work.

I know you've tried a hell of a lot of times to get your hands on that Part 1, I can send it to you through AIM/MSN/Yahoo/ICQ if you want.

clearvision
04-08-2005, 04:06 PM
Emm which parts? That song doesn't really have any tricky parts cept, mebbe the little solo thing that adam plays clean...

EDIT : To kurrpt

clearvision
04-08-2005, 04:08 PM
Once I get tone worthy stuff (MGs are NOT tone worthy), ill get learning the better ones.

I really need an American to give me an opinion on PLC, as I havent heard much. I saw their video ages ago, and cant remember what I thouhgt of it. I know its nothing like Tool or APC though, and much simpler for Danny. (obvious I know, but this is real baisc stuff)

Downloading as we speak, I'll Gmail you some songs i think are cool or something :)

Adam Jones is GOD
04-08-2005, 04:11 PM
Wow that's weird, no idea why the link doesn't work.

I know you've tried a hell of a lot of times to get your hands on that Part 1, I can send it to you through AIM/MSN/Yahoo/ICQ if you want.

joe_hahn_junior at hotmail

I wont have time for it all tonight though. Ill have to sort it some other time

(You tried uploadhut for it yet?)

clearvision
04-08-2005, 04:20 PM
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00025ETLY/qid=1112994566/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl15/002-9303786-0669616?v=glance&s=music&n=507846

Check out the previews AJIG, It's not really my style, 90's metal pantera-esque...

I saw Pigmy at the "Negativ" (very small club) in Frankfurt Germany circa 1991. They called it the "Drink Free Forever Tour". Totally by accident, me and my buddy met up w/ 3 of the band members before the show at a pub down the street. Only after we had pounded several beers did we find out that they were the band members of Pigmy...the band we had planned on seeing that night(only because the Batschkapp was dead that night). Anyway, the band (from my native CA) was very cool to me and my friend. They took us to their VIP spread, fed us well, and gave us nice plug during their gig. Very cool. Also, the drummer claimed to have played w/ Black Flag previously.

Kevin



...REFL
:lol:

Dried Muffin Remnants
04-08-2005, 04:26 PM
I've been trying to get my hands on Part 1 from OK too.. Could somebody trade or post it? I'll give you something in return.

SN= jericho3213

Adam Jones is GOD
04-08-2005, 04:28 PM
Henry Rollins

was part of an early legendary punk band called

Black Flag

who's drummer was Danny Carey, who now plays for

Pygmy Love Circus

Who toured with

A Perfect Circle

whos vocalist, Maynard James Kennan also sings for

Tool

Who did a song featuring the vocals of

henry Rollins





At least the lie gave me some fun. Those guys are either victims to the salt jokes, or are complusive liars

Edit: Actually, didnt PLC have another drummer for a while? Maybe it wasnt so far fetched after all

clearvision
04-08-2005, 04:28 PM
Is that a slsk username, AIM, MSN?

AJIG...wht?

EDIT: oic :(

Otherside
04-08-2005, 04:47 PM
AJG if you end up getting it can you send it to me as well?

Phobophile
04-08-2005, 06:43 PM
I know what the song "Stinkfist" is about, its about Anal Fisting -_0

This song isn't ABOUT anal fisting. It uses fisting as a metaphor for the technological advances that have become an addiction to our society for stimulation. An easy target would be reality shows. First there is one and it catches on and then there is two and now there is an entire market flooded with reality shows. It is about having seen,hearing,and done anything that could possibly entertain your mind and one dependance on media such as TV and books and music as mental stimulation when they really should possibly be spending more time thinking on their own. I know that it is a hypocritical thing to say on an internet forum but it's the truth.

BurtonChancellor
04-08-2005, 08:10 PM
Yeah...probably not necessary to post comments now in reply to posts on the first page, Da_Machine. If you look again, you might notice that the post you're replying to was written about a year ago (well, 9 months to be exact, but I digress).

Anyways, as for Part 1 of the Oklahoma concert and people who haven't been able to get their hands on it, I tried uploading it a few days back, but it never made it through to yousendit. If there's anybody that would like me to though, I wouldn't mind trying to upload it again tonight.

Shadius
04-08-2005, 08:14 PM
That would be great, i'd love to see that.

ThePatient
04-08-2005, 08:20 PM
i was in coconuts the other day (CD store) and i saw these TOoL tribute albums done in different styles of music?!?! no lie, any one see those yet?
The String Tribute cds are great, the first one is definetly the better of the two. I also have some cd called "A Tribute To Tool", I only listened to it once right after I got it, it was sort of techno-ish, I hated it when I got it. It was bad enough that I dumped it in with all my old Will Smith and Backstreet Boys cds. So I think I'll take it out and give it another shot. :p

Werny
04-09-2005, 02:34 AM
When I read that Tool were influenced by Meshuggah, I was thinking that means that it'll be brutal, the solos will be stranger, and there'll be a lot more time changes.

And when I read that they're influenced by Fantomas, well I've only heard two songs, but I guess that means they'll have either some odd samples, or really strange sounding instruments. Or they'll turn ultra-scary.

Either way, it works out. I hope that they'll still have "segues".

Dried Muffin Remnants
04-09-2005, 02:04 PM
Desensitivity is what Stinkfist is about

Darkness
04-09-2005, 05:01 PM
This is off topic but...

Has anyone else noticed that throughout Intolerance you can hear some of the riffs of prison sex in the backaround?? I think thats kinda cool...

Sleeper
04-09-2005, 07:36 PM
I havent listened to Undertow in a while, But i noticed that also.

horseman
04-10-2005, 03:59 AM
i havent heard that....but then again im deaf

guitarist.kid
04-10-2005, 09:26 AM
Just to know one thing, when is the new album coming out. I heard people saying it was in June? Is it true?

Darkness
04-10-2005, 10:09 AM
Nobody knows yet.

Spades
04-10-2005, 10:25 AM
Probably 2009.

Darkness
04-10-2005, 10:35 AM
^ round that yeah... Thats what I was thinking.

Deyve
04-10-2005, 10:42 AM
I may or may not get flamed for this, but does anyone else think that Stinkfist is similar to The Doors - Break On Through (To The Other Side)?

They both have a similar message I think: Push your mind through into another way of thinking.

Opinons, flames, agreement? Do go on.

Magicaltroll
04-10-2005, 11:05 AM
Hey, what was that book called that had to do with a bunch of theorys and stuff that was called something like "Everything in this book is a lie, but its exatly the way things are"?
Is that the correct title, because te only thing I can find on amazon.com is a book like that, but it has something to do with the monument on mars or something. And a long time ago I looked up the book and it didn't have "mars" in the title at all.

It was on the "tools recommended reading list" thing.

Any help is apppreciated.

clearvision
04-10-2005, 11:26 AM
Yeah, i think the list maybe wrong on tool's site. Bob frissell has two books that deal with sacred gemoetry 'something in this book is true' and the book you found, the one about ecosteric meanings of mars or something.

CHeck 'em out, then tell us if they are worth importing to england :p

Dried Muffin Remnants
04-10-2005, 12:12 PM
Where are people getting this "June" idea? I've heard that from people, too. But my radiostations have all been saying "at the end of the year."

Magicaltroll
04-10-2005, 12:20 PM
I think it will be at the end of the year also.
They would of already said SOMETHING if it was coming out in June.

And thanks for the book info.

Merkaba
04-10-2005, 01:49 PM
Any songs that sound good acoustic? I think H could be done...and stinkfist maybe. Has anyone seen any acoustic versions or anything. I would love to do some tool at the local coffee shop! That would be different. I'm thinking about getting some songs together for their open mic night.

circlethedrain
04-10-2005, 01:52 PM
I heard that Maynard wont even start doing Vocals until June so the album probably wont be out till around Christmas time.

Shadius
04-10-2005, 01:55 PM
Any songs that sound good acoustic? I think H could be done...and stinkfist maybe. Has anyone seen any acoustic versions or anything. I would love to do some tool at the local coffee shop! That would be different. I'm thinking about getting some songs together for their open mic night.

H. and Pushit would come to mind if any Tool songs were acoustic, although I think they would be lacking something. Tell us how they sound if you give it a try.

Shadius
04-10-2005, 01:57 PM
I heard that Maynard wont even start doing Vocals until June so the album probably wont be out till around Christmas time.

Hasn't he been doing them since APC came back off tour? Give or take a few weeks.

Adam Jones is GOD
04-10-2005, 02:00 PM
Its hard to do most drop tuning songs acoustic IMO. And its Adam's tones and effects that seperate him from the rest of the field. Take those away, and he suddenly becomes very average

As for MJK doing vocals, I can only imagine, since he's with them for each session, that he is working in some way. Whether its putting down guitar parts, or just sitting around for inspiration, I dont know.

Oh to be a fly on the wall.

Merkaba
04-10-2005, 02:05 PM
yea...I think they should give us a snippet of them in the studio whenever they do put out a dvd. I mean...come on and lift some of that shroud of mystery. At least after they "retire"...hopefully a long way from now...

Adam Jones is GOD
04-10-2005, 02:08 PM
There are a few stories around about the lateralus recordings. Most are boring, but the secret of their work board is still a nice enigma

Otherside
04-10-2005, 02:20 PM
I think Schism and Parabola could make great acoustic songs. Lateralus too, if it was changed around a bit.

Shadius
04-10-2005, 02:24 PM
I think Schism and Parabola could make great acoustic songs. Lateralus too, if it was changed around a bit.

Schism maybe, actually.

Parabola.. Psh, those lead guitar parts NEED to be electric. :p

clearvision
04-10-2005, 02:26 PM
Most tool songs would work acoustic. Since adam loves the D-Maj barré shapes, you could strum along to that and have a second guitarist play the little licks...such as the schism riff, 46 & 2 riff etc...

Adam Jones is GOD
04-10-2005, 05:30 PM
Tool have had their fair share of legal problems. Lets hope that has any effect at all, and fate takes pity on them.

My only thoughts over the album process being delayed is they really go nuts with this album and dont release until they've perfected it.

Adam Jones is GOD
04-10-2005, 05:33 PM
/Plays The Patient.


I would like info too, but i still say if any tracks get leaked, ill not download them.I want the finished article. Hopefully Blair will decide to post an update on the site soon, instead of another blog entry.

Darkness
04-10-2005, 05:40 PM
Hi Kat, No worries about the green cheerios. I found them at the ten yen shop. Sorry if I'm short, but I'm so tired that I don't know what is right, left or up or down. I'm ****ing tired. At an rate life today was the usual Camella Kicking our ***. A mad dash through the subways with just enough seconds to either have a lotus root pizza or purple waffle, salad sticks to take on the train with Kirin that I could have bought for a lot less from the machine. I want to tell you about a dream I had. Involved a girl of the kind I like. Guess what, and this is just between the two of us, next morning in kiddie land, the toy store, I saw an Icelandic Barbie Doll. Limited edition and more expensive than any other Barbies just like those... Anyway, Joe thought I was a fag for even thinking about paying 50,000 yen or whatever for this viking doll, but then again he's been giving me **** about using Camella's conditioner... Redkin extreem, which, by the way, is pure dream to me. Sorry to ramble, but just wanted to say thanks, and as I already said have the green cheerios, and lots of love... with good conditioner in my traveling hair. Thanks for watching the crazy place. Got you a Qoo. Love, B


wtf is this...

Adam Jones is GOD
04-10-2005, 05:41 PM
Gimmie a B

Gimmie a l

gimmie a o

gimmie a g

Entry.


I guess that update only makes sense to 2 people. And one wrote it

Huber
04-10-2005, 05:42 PM
An example of what happens when you take drugs?

Adam Jones is GOD
04-10-2005, 05:44 PM
I give someone who is very good at finding subliminal messages the job of deciphering that for usefulness.

Once you fail at that, realise you shouldnt have bothered. And if that was due to drugs, he did a good job of still typing properly

Ill see what my inbox has to say about that tommorrow.

The JoZ
04-10-2005, 05:45 PM
I think Blair must be constantly high or something, he makes very little sense most of the time.

I did not hear anything about Maynard not even starting vocals till June though...

Huber
04-10-2005, 05:46 PM
Awwwww. That's a downer. Oh well, better June than July I always say!

Nra4ever_17
04-10-2005, 07:43 PM
Sorry it's late, but a response to the acoustic question: Somewhere on MX, there is an acoustic version of Schism Sliver did. He posted it in the put a while ago, and it's pretty good (although he can't pull off Maynard's vocals well).

mudvayne420
04-11-2005, 12:36 AM
right now i really don't care when the albums out but i only hope they come to new mexico. Many bands like it here, probably the surroundings, if they do First in line to buy tickets. But, i really wish that you should stop worrying and wait until it arrives. Be patient and rewards will come for your precious time.

G_Mac07
04-11-2005, 12:53 AM
Has anyone got any good recorded interviews with the Tool members, I found a couple on my college network the other day, but they were generally dissappointing. I guess thats all you can expect when it some twat of a radio host who only cares about tour dates and *** kissing. Maynard especially seemed uninterested during his recording.

Anyway, if anyones got any good stuff, would they mind uploading it on YSI.

misunderstood
04-11-2005, 02:35 AM
There was a webcast up on the Tool site a couple months back....actually back in June '04 so it's been quite a while but anyway, Blair is pretty much just asking the band questions that were sent in my the members of The Collective Unconscious. It's actually quite interesting and funny. All the members are there with the exception of Maynard. According to the band, "he's in the bathroom". Anyway, not sure if many of you have heard this or not but in case you haven't and are interested, here is the link:

http://www.toolband.com/webcast/