Rock and Metal's Slipknot Thread

[NATAS 666]

it would be too hard for me to list a top 20 in order so i will just list my favorite songs as they come to me:

only one ( mate, feed, kill repeat )
only one
spit it out
people = ****
the blister exists
circle
vermillion part 2
the nameless
purity
my plague
disastorpiece
everything ends
duality
pulse of the maggots
wait and bleed
the shape
do nothing/bitchslap
left behind
vermillion
sic

[Tamadrummer6162]

Yeah I used to like Slipknot but I also grew out of them but their new album was terrible. Too much offtime **** which pisses me off. But as far as Joey goes, it never gets old listen to him play, he is so amazing on the drums.

[relliK]

Here's a bit of a bump.

I talked about Craig not doing alot for the band...and I had no idea what a great song for him was.

I just paid attention to the song "Circle" and there are a ton of things going on. Strings, ambient sounds, stuff like that. If that's most/or all of him, it's great stuff. One great track out of...30 or 40 doesn't really justify him being there IMO, but it's a good start :thumb:

Now, where is Sid's breakout track? :p

I pretty sure Sid did some of the stuff on Circle.He did the intro to it for sure.Another great track for Craig would have to be Danger-Keep Away.He plays the keyboard on it and does some of the sounds in the background along with Sid.The 8 minute version of the song is gonna be released in October with the Vermilion single.Craig and Sid are actually all over Slipknot songs but were thrown back on Iowa.They were used alot more on Vol.3.

A breakout song for Sid would probably be Purity,and alot of the stuff on the s/t album.But Purity is his best IMO.

[relliK]

The extra percussion and bass in this band is more about feel than about what you can hear, at least on the older stuff.

In Vol 3, you can actually pick out, to an extent, who's playing what...except Sid...off the top of my head, I'm not sure he's actually DOING anything on this album...which is ironic because Joey was quoted as saying "You can hear everything...the DJ..."

Where is he? Hm? I found Craig, now where is Sid?

Sid is on there,you just gotta know what to listen for(which is hard because its hard to tell his stuff apart from Craigs).He moved away from the tradition "skibity skibity"DJ scratching that he did on s/t.But he's on this.

Prelude 3.0-Sid does the weird Arpeggio noises and other stuff that you have to listen closely for.Some of it may be Craigs aswell.

The Blister Exists-He scratches after Corey says "drop it" about 40 seconds in.He also does stuff at the end.

Three Nil-He does the 1-2-3 thing aswell as that weird thing during the main riff.

Duality-He does some minor scratching at the end of this,its syncronized with Corey's "All Ive got-All Ive got is insane".

Opium of the People-I cant think of anything,maybe nothing.

Circle-He does the intro,it has a vinyl sound and that rewind thing.He does some stuff during the song,the looped things sound like they come from his turntable.

Welcome-He does that airhorn type of thing during the chorus.Im pretty sure.

Vermilion-Im not sure,the space rock sound is most likely done by Craig.

Pulse of the Maggots-He does some scratching on this,before the first verse,the techno breackdown before verse 2,uhh....thats it.

Before I Forget-He scratches before the Chorus.Thats all I can remember.

Vermilion pt.2-Absolutely nothing.What can he do on this?

The Nameless-He scratches in the begining during the first riff,it repeats later,there is stuff that he does during the chorus which is almost unmentionable because its so hard to catch.Listen on the left speaker and you might hear it.

The Virus of Life-He is all over this.I cant even name it all.

Danger-Keep Away-Some of the background stuff is his because you can hear them being messed with,like about 2 mins in,when Corey's voice is echoed and turned into a weird sound.Thats it I guess.

Why I closely scrutinized everything to point out Sids work?I dont know.I was banned for 3 days,I had to get this out of me. :D

[xfragiletimex]

Slipknot sucks!

[relliK]

"Yeah dude NOFX is cool dude I love my green mowhawk Cali punk for life why do most of us punks look like we came strait out of Auchwitz?Is going to the gym not punk?I hate the government,and conformists.Anarchy!!"

[The JoZ]

Ah well...

Generally, any weird noises I hear I tend to believe Craig has created. Much easier to point out what should be the work of the sampler/keyboardist than the DJ...

I thought I heard some scratching on The Blister Exists...it's very weird, sounds electronic almost...but yeah. I will listen to it again I guess.

If you think Slipknot sucks, stay out of the thread. Plain and simple.

[TheSubtleArts]

hes deffinetly there, but still he hardly does anything in the songs, just a few scrathes before the chous in a few song and wierd intros.

[The JoZ]

To me, that's a wasted member.

If they used all 9 members to their fullest potential, I think they'd be a huge powerhouse of a band. Well...more so than they already are.

See a few posts back for my thoughts on that.

Oh yeah, I see them tomorrow. :chug:

[_GanondorF_]

Eyeless for sid....some very cool stuff there.

[axewarrior20]

Hey, just signed up and I would like say that Slipknot is one of the best bands I have ever heard. Although there are a few that make them look like sh*t, they are still extremely awesome.

I could listen to Joey play the drums and Corey sing for hours.

[slipknut666]

My Plague
SIC
Vermillion
Eyeless
The Blister Exists
Surfacing
People = ****
Eeyore
Circle
Everything Ends
The Heretic Anthem
Duality
Disasterpiece
Wait And Bleed
Left Behind
I Am Hated
Liberate
Spit It Out
Prosthetics
Pulse Of The Maggots

those would probably have to be my top 20.....but everything by SlipKnot kix *** because.....
SLIPKNOT IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Im not talking about you in particular,just them little maggot fanboys that worship Slipknot like the little girlies worshiped nsync.There is alot of them.They give Slipknot and the fanbase a bad name.
**** YOU RELLIK AND **** YOU TO FEEDTHEGODS666!!!!! YOU GIVE THE FANBASE A BAD NAME!!!!!

[relliK]

To me, that's a wasted member.

If they used all 9 members to their fullest potential, I think they'd be a huge powerhouse of a band. Well...more so than they already are.

See a few posts back for my thoughts on that.

Oh yeah, I see them tomorrow. :chug:

That may sound like alot of clutter tho.All three percussions,relentless samples and DJ work.Who knows.They are a very good energetic band on stage.I saw them about a month back,and they were good.They could have been louder tho.

[The JoZ]

I don't need them to be 'relentless', I just want Chris, Shawn, Craig and Sid to do more, that's all

[relliK]

I'd like to see that too.The percussionists did some really cool stuff on MFKR.I dont know why they stopped doing that on the newer stuff from 99 up.But I guess they had their reasons for it.

[Vetilien]

I don't listen to Slipknot a whole lot, but I think their first album kicked major ***. Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else saw them on Jimmy Kimmel Live last night. I've never seen them live before, but I thought it was a great performance.

My friend saw them in Chorzów. They had rotten sound system (you know, wrong cables etc), anyway it was amazing.

[MetallicaMan)(ChildOfTheKorn]

Slipknot are awesome, but i've moved away from them, i don't listen to them as much any more, for me, their latest album was a dissapointment, it was a change in their style of music which to me, makes COREY not the band, it makes corey a sellout. I only say this because all of slipknot say stuff like "corey was a real drive for us this time around".

very very true!! i listened to slipknot to vent anger and frustration. you cant do that with their new album. its still decent stuff, but nothing like their first two


i think you 2 a crack addicts. The most recent album was the best that's come out. Before i listened to them as well, but as my best friend says "you couldn't f*ckin' understand what he was saying before, and that was just f*cked up". This album brings out their REAL talent. The past albums were corey screaming about frustrations i'll say that they had meaning, but the new songs do as well. The new album is incredible and you shouldn't knock it, cuz it kicks ***! It's easier on the ears then the past albums and it helps them to have more listeners and people don't get bashed for listening to them, anymore. If you were a true slipknot fan, you would accept their change.

[relliK]

i think you 2 a crack addicts. The most recent album was the best that's come out. Before i listened to them as well, but as my best friend says "you couldn't f*ckin' understand what he was saying before, and that was just f*cked up". This album brings out their REAL talent. The past albums were corey screaming about frustrations i'll say that they had meaning, but the new songs do as well. The new album is incredible and you shouldn't knock it, cuz it kicks ***! It's easier on the ears then the past albums and it helps them to have more listeners and people don't get bashed for listening to them, anymore. If you were a true slipknot fan, you would accept their change.


Very true.I hate seeing reviews from people saying "This album is really good,but its not Slipknot,I'll give it 1 star."WTF?Just drop the pre-concieved notion,and listen to it then.You wouldnt be disappointed.This album actually puts me in a trance like nothing else does.Get stoned and listen to it,its quite an album when your stoned :lol: .But anyway,Its an improvement from them.I think it weeds out the people that listened to them for the wrong reasons.

[The JoZ]

Vol 3: >>> Slipknot >>>> Iowa

Volume 3 shows that they know how to do more than just insane double bass and powerchords. That Corey can actually sing. That Craig actually does more than headbang.

Volume 3 is very dark and melodic, but also heavy. It's their best album to date, I don't care what any 'maggot' says

[maggot_13]

i like it alot too because it is alot more emotionally heavier than their previous albums. it makes you think alot more. but my favorite song is on the iowa album(left behind).

[reaptheagony666]

i think you 2 a crack addicts. The most recent album was the best that's come out. Before i listened to them as well, but as my best friend says "you couldn't f*ckin' understand what he was saying before, and that was just f*cked up". This album brings out their REAL talent. The past albums were corey screaming about frustrations i'll say that they had meaning, but the new songs do as well. The new album is incredible and you shouldn't knock it, cuz it kicks ***! It's easier on the ears then the past albums and it helps them to have more listeners and people don't get bashed for listening to them, anymore. If you were a true slipknot fan, you would accept their change.

feedthegods666 new name=me

i never said i was a "true" slipknot fan. i like their new album, but i prefer their older ones. their newer one seems like pop rock rather than nu metal. i listen to it when im in different moods. please think about what you're saying before you say it :thumb:

[relliK]

Pop rock?You act like they made a Sugar Ray album or something.The less Nu Metal,the better.

[Kingofdudes]

Just when I thought the retard couldnt get anymore retarded...... I should have requested an IP ban.

If anything their older stuff contained more pop characteristics than their new stuff.

[Kingofdudes]

[FONT=Arial][COLOR=Red]slipknot :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Congrats on being retarded with the font.

[relliK]

Ok,so what the **** happened here?

[Kingofdudes]

spam attack

[axewarrior20]

Vol 3: >>> Slipknot >>>> Iowa

Volume 3 shows that they know how to do more than just insane double bass and powerchords. That Corey can actually sing. That Craig actually does more than headbang.

Volume 3 is very dark and melodic, but also heavy. It's their best album to date, I don't care what any 'maggot' says

Ya, you are right. They proved that they don't need all fast songs or major cussing to make an album. That they can control themselves to playing some of the most beautiful soft music. Yes, I said beautiful reffering to Slipknot's stuff. All the true maggots will stay by their side because they know that Slipknot's attentions are best.

[Poofy 666]

slipknot should die

[phsyco]

You should die. Why doesn't joey have any tatoos

[The JoZ]

Because he doesn't want any?

[LedZepplin#1]

Lets return to the topic shall we?

I dont really like slipknot myself... the singer screams to much and the music is very angry, hateful and destructive

In my opinion its torture to the ears. Its really noisy and a bit too simplistic.

The only thing i like about slipknot is the singer who (although he screams too much) is very talented and what he does (even though i dont like it).

[relliK]

Check out Circle or Vermilion pt.2,they may sway your opinion a bit.

[LedZepplin#1]

Check out Circle or Vermilion pt.2,they may sway your opinion a bit.

i think i will. Im open-minded enough to try any new type of music and then express my opinion about it

[Seahawk]

Well Slipknot sure as hell dont suck, so i guess you wrong on that one. Joey is fukin awesome one the drums and i challenge those who disagree to try and learn disasterpiece. Slipknot fukin rule period.

^^^^i agree Yeah don't come to the slipknot thread just to flame the band or people.

[led_zep_luvr]

slipknot sux

[axewarrior20]

^^^^i agree Yeah don't come to the slipknot thread just to flame the band or people.

I agree. You know it is funny. Probaly the major who flames have either only listened to one song of theirs or they care too much about image.

[Godmic]

slipknot sux

How do you know? Have you met them? Have you been to a Slipknot concert? Have you even listened to en entire CD of theirs? One sond, even?

Or are just another band-bashing fool who feels a little better about himself every time he puts someone or something down?

If you have no actual evidence or reasons "Slipknot sucks" then keep your ignorant comments to yourself.

[Phil Anselmo]

slipknot sux
I second his opionion. Their music takes no skill except in drumming. Plus, they're not metal. They're not even listed on www.metal-archives.com, and they have TONS of bands.

[living-just-to-breath]

i have never really listened to them but i herd they have like 9 ppl in the band and that they have 2 drummers is that true

[lambofgod002]

no specific order

left behind
duality
opium of the people
three nil
welcome
pulse of the maggots
the blister exists
diluted
liberate
prosthetics
eeyore
snap
spit it out
gently
new abortion
the virus of life
vermilion
vermilion pt 2
before i forget
eyeless

[Win A Rabbit]

i have never really listened to them but i herd they have like 9 ppl in the band and that they have 2 drummers is that true
1 drummer, and 2 "custom percussionists"

[(Lennon/McCartney)]

im not a huge fan i rilly like iowa and jump up (unreleased stuff and live ****) and ther new album is my favoret i was just wondering i heard that thay do music for the new resident evil movie it said new songs does that mean off of the new album or new for the movie does anybody know????

[relliK]

I second his opionion. Their music takes no skill except in drumming. Plus, they're not metal. They're not even listed on www.metal-archives.com, and they have TONS of bands.

Oh that Phil,always talking ****.Way to live up to that name!!:thumb:

[Half Life]

I like Slipknot. I was never really a big fan, and to this day I'm not a "maggot". I've never heard their real early stuff but I've heard a little of Iowa and Vol. 3. I like Vol. 3's stuff the best though. Like my bands guitarist, I don't like super dry, gravelly voice metal bands, they dont appeal to me...but I liked the more melodic/musical aspect of Vol. 3. Opium Of The People is my favorite song on the album, with Duality comming in at a close second. Myself being a drummer, of course im gonna like Slipknot. Joey's not the best metal drummer I've heard, but his style is completely differen't from anyone else's. Oh, and to anyone that has seen Slipknot live...you lucky bastard. I seen a video of them playing Duality on the Jay Leno show...****, that would have kicked *** to be there. They have such amazing stage presence, but I laughed at the percussionists alittle...

[everyonesbitch]

I hate people...people hate me. but I hate dumb people. like the ones that bash a band in a post that aren't supposed to. it said at th beginning, don't talk **** about slipknot. people do. therefore this threat turned out like every other one!

[back_to_basics]

slipknot sux

OH, do u no, ure so funny, and original! ive never heard anyone say that before........ Slipknot sux! wow. do another funny. u funny person.

[Lenny_uk]

im not a huge fan i rilly like iowa and jump up (unreleased stuff and live ****) and ther new album is my favoret i was just wondering i heard that thay do music for the new resident evil movie it said new songs does that mean off of the new album or new for the movie does anybody know????

Vermillion is the song being used in the new movie Resident Evil: Apocalypse

[relliK]

Well anyway, a few posts up we were talking about the percussionists not doing enough.I found an interview where Shawn talked about that.

Shawn:"What goes on is this. The main drummer, Joey, is an amazing drummer. He's got all that double bass **** going on. What we learned was that, in the early days when we were recording, Joey and I learned that we can step on each other. I can muddy up his parts. Really, he's the drummer, I'm only extra. We have to be very careful what the two extra drummers play because it will sound muddy and the average listener will think there are mistakes being played. There won't be mistakes, but they're so many layers of some of the same things being done. It's been a lot of work. Here's the steps we did. We decided to cut it, down to bare bones. Chris and I, who are the other percussionists, we play straight on power. No lap percussion, and nothing too technical. Just boom, boom, boom. We got that beat in there, we keep it real. That's just us hitting the ****ing drums as hard as we can. That's one step."

[The JoZ]

Bump, because the other official threads are on page one, and this is on page 12.

What Shawn says makes sense, but, it's real easy to get the wrong impression about someone based on what you see. When all I ever saw was him and Chris sitting on their drums, and/or headbanging on them...I assume they are worthless members. Having seen them live, I realize that they do more playing than I first thought. Honestly, they should just be the 'power' drummers. It would get real confusing to have too much going on...

Anyway, I think Vermilion is quite honestly their best song, hands down. It has a huge, epic feel to it, and it is heavily growing on me. I'd love to see them do more stuff like that...and Vol. 3 in general...

Now, if only someone would remind Paul that he's got 5 strings on that bass, not just 2, we'd be ok :p

[Heavy0metal0freak]

slipknot kicks a.ss
see these are the kinds of fans that pi.ss me off they dont kick *** get it thru ur head ...... srry for the rest of you i dont mean to insult n e body but this noob and i think they're too soft in all their albums but n e ways carry on

[The JoZ]

see these are the kinds of fans that pi.ss me off they dont kick *** get it thru ur head ...... srry for the rest of you i dont mean to insult n e body but this noob and i think they're too soft in all their albums but n e ways carry on

And you're the kind of poster we hate.

You type like a 12 year old AOL'er, and then you come into a band's official thread and put someone down for liking said band.

In the future, don't do stupid things that will annoy every sane person here. :thumb:

[relliK]

Bump, because the other official threads are on page one, and this is on page 12.

What Shawn says makes sense, but, it's real easy to get the wrong impression about someone based on what you see. When all I ever saw was him and Chris sitting on their drums, and/or headbanging on them...I assume they are worthless members. Having seen them live, I realize that they do more playing than I first thought. Honestly, they should just be the 'power' drummers. It would get real confusing to have too much going on...

Anyway, I think Vermilion is quite honestly their best song, hands down. It has a huge, epic feel to it, and it is heavily growing on me. I'd love to see them do more stuff like that...and Vol. 3 in general...

Now, if only someone would remind Paul that he's got 5 strings on that bass, not just 2, we'd be ok :p

Yeah, I like the stuff they did on The Virus of Life, with the kegs and the congas.And the xylophone at the end of Vermilion.More stuff like that would be good.But yeah, Vermilion has a great epic feel to it.The solo adds on to it.It sucks that it was cut in half on the Resident Evil sountrack and possibly the single too.Anyway, Im really looking forward to the full version of Danger-Keep Away.The version on the album ends too abruptly.

[The JoZ]

...I have never heard any Xylophone sound like the sound heard at the end of Vermilion.

I personally think it was created on a keyboard...sounds like the Crystal effect to me. Or possibly some other percussion instrument...but not a xylophone.

[relliK]

I guess I dont really know what a xylophone sounds like.I remember Joey mentioning the use of one and I just assumed that was it.

[Paranoidd]

Now, if only someone would remind Paul that he's got 5 strings on that bass, not just 2, we'd be ok :p

I was listening to their first (and best album) today. Love that bassline on Do Nothing/Bitchslap (even though it's not too complex).

[bassplayer_04]

Now, if only someone would remind Paul that he's got 5 strings on that bass, not just 2, we'd be ok :p

I thought that he played a 4 string Warwick Corvette tuned B F# B E :confused:


"I was listening to their first (and best album) today. Love that bassline on Do Nothing/Bitchslap (even though it's not too complex)."

Sometimes simple basslines sound the best. Paul isn't the best bass player in the world but he does play some good ****.

[The JoZ]

Watch the Duality video. He plays a 5 string Warwick now.

He still has the four...he used it at least once during their show here...

And honestly, I can't stand alot of his basslines, they are too easy. But I've never heard the Do Nothing bassline, which alot of people says is the best when it comes to Slipknot bass...

[bassplayer_04]

Yeah, his basslines are too easy. I figured out "Duality" on my own the first time I tried playing it, along with most of the other songs. But in the performance on Jay Leno he was still using the four, but I think I remember seeing him is a Bass Guitar mag with a 5. I'm suprised he's playing a Warwick. You'd think he'd play a B.C. Rich, ESP or Ibanez, you know steriotypical guitar/bass companies for the genre, but I do like the sound he gets from his Warwick.

[maggotfelon]

oooh yeah... Do Nothing/Bitchslap has a badas.s bass line... and his bass lines may be easy but they fit the music and have a nice rhythm for the songs without being flashy.

[maggotfelon]

oooh yeah... Do Nothing/Bitchslap has a badas.s bass line... and his bass lines may be easy but they fit the music and have a nice rhythm for the songs without being flashy.

[maggotfelon]

oooh yeah... Do Nothing/Bitchslap has a badas.s bass line... and his bass lines may be easy but they fit the music and have a nice rhythm for the songs without being flashy.

[The JoZ]

Yeah, his basslines are too easy. I figured out "Duality" on my own the first time I tried playing it, along with most of the other songs. But in the performance on Jay Leno he was still using the four, but I think I remember seeing him is a Bass Guitar mag with a 5. I'm suprised he's playing a Warwick. You'd think he'd play a B.C. Rich, ESP or Ibanez, you know steriotypical guitar/bass companies for the genre, but I do like the sound he gets from his Warwick.

You don't happen to have that video do you?

I give him credit for keeping up with Mick and Jim, but his lines are generally not that spectacular...

[bassplayer_04]

You don't happen to have that video do you?

I give him credit for keeping up with Mick and Jim, but his lines are generally not that spectacular...


Actually I do have the video. Yeah, he does hold the bottom end pretty good. The simple basslines just make it easier to go crazy on and to add your own variations if you want to make it flashy.

[slipknut666]

to drummachine

honestly, anyone who says Mick is a good guitarist is a complete idiot. i can play pretty much every slipknot song, except for Dont get close and Eeyore. Mick cant play guitar for sh1t. they arent original or anything. i realize this, theyre still my fave band tho
**** YOU!!!!!
MICK THOMSON IS GOD YOU FAGGET!!!!! WHAT KIND OF SLIPKNOT FAN ARE YOU?!?!?!?!?!
DO ALL US REAL MAGGOTS A FAVOR AND DIE YOU FAGGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bassplayer_04]

**** YOU!!!!!
MICK THOMSON IS GOD YOU FAGGET!!!!! WHAT KIND OF SLIPKNOT FAN ARE YOU?!?!?!?!?!
DO ALL US REAL MAGGOTS A FAVOR AND DIE YOU FAGGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Calm down man, it was just an opinion. Yeah his guitar parts aren't very difficult, but it fits the music. Same with, like we said, the bass parts. Not difficult but it fits the music. I mean can you picture Slipknot doing Eddie Van Halen or Kirk Hammet style guitar solos?

[sHaZaM11]

Calm down man, it was just an opinion. Yeah his guitar parts aren't very difficult, but it fits the music. Same with, like we said, the bass parts. Not difficult but it fits the music. I mean can you picture Slipknot doing Eddie Van Halen or Kirk Hammet style guitar solos?
of course i can. :rolleyes:

[bassplayer_04]

of course i can. :rolleyes:


My point exactly.

[Heavy0metal0freak]

And you're the kind of poster we hate.

You type like a 12 year old AOL'er, and then you come into a band's official thread and put someone down for liking said band.

In the future, don't do stupid things that will annoy every sane person here. :thumb:
poser

[Heavy0metal0freak]

**** YOU!!!!!
MICK THOMSON IS GOD YOU FAGGET!!!!! WHAT KIND OF SLIPKNOT FAN ARE YOU?!?!?!?!?!
DO ALL US REAL MAGGOTS A FAVOR AND DIE YOU FAGGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maggots=faggots dude the guy has a point his music failed to impress me or anything the only reason i like slipknot is cuz of their drumming besides that they blow

[The JoZ]

Actually I do have the video. Yeah, he does hold the bottom end pretty good. The simple basslines just make it easier to go crazy on and to add your own variations if you want to make it flashy.


Mind sending it to me? :D

And you other idiots, STFU.

[Guitar_From_HELL]

try to appreciate him Feedthegods666! bash him just to be an A$$. he is a good guitarist.

[Guitar_From_HELL]

don't bash*

[relliK]

Well, James Murphy wouldnt have asked Mick and Paul to be on the Death tribute album had he not believed they were good enough.A few weeks ago he posted on blabbermouth because people were whining about Mick and Paul being on there.He said that Mick is a better guitarist than MANY well known death metal guitarists.So I dont know.Kerry King says Mick can shred.The video of him on the Line 6 website displayed more of his talent than he demonstrates in Slipknot.But anyway, have any of you heard Anal Blasts "Vaginal Vempire"?Is it any good?Because Paul and Joey wrote every song on it.Just wondering.

[relliK]

Come to think of it.That bassline during the break in Surfacing is pretty badass.

[paper2302]

I read that his true talent is shown in MFKR.

[paper2302]

Does anyone know why Paul uses a Four String Live and a five string for like,Photo shoots.

[KRE-NUN CHUKA KATA]

quoted for supreme trueth, any band whos fan base is composed of angst depressed 15 year old boys and highschool goths doesnt deserve any respect.


dude says hes a drummer.. and sees nothing special about joey.. you must be 1 hell of a drummer. to compare your self to joey hes got drum roll after drum roll and they r so insane its not funny. my bro plays drums and he is dame good but joey makes him look like a joke.. probably makes you look like 1 2... i play guitar and i ad mit mick has nothing nor jim root they just happen to bring some goot guitar effects and rythm to the bands corey is probably the best singer in my opinion hes got the perfect screaming voice and singing voide along with deron miller from cky... but your an idiot is basiclly what im sayin.

[paper2302]

poop

[Heavy0metal0freak]

don't bash*
im not bashing and i dont think he's a good guitarist im just sayin they have one of the best drummers around now :thumb:

[BassMasterMike88]

Personally i think Pulse of the Maggots is one of the best, that song gets me pumped like no other. But Wait and Bleed is awsome too. (Slipknot Kicks *** :evil: )

[The JoZ]

Does anyone know why Paul uses a Four String Live and a five string for like,Photo shoots.

This is a good question...

He plays the 5 in the Duality video...but every other shot of him I've seen is with the 4...

The one picture of him from when they played live here is of him with the 4...

[Hardest_Rocker]

I dont like Slipknot. They are annoying nu-metal. The line "Slit your throat and f**k the wound" wtf? They need to not wear masks, not cuss so much, and if you can tell if a band is talented if you take the vocals out, andf the songs still enjoyable. Nothing special about there instruments. Except supposedly this drummer of there's.

[mono_890]

^Hey man, they may not be the most talented band, but they're out there every bloody night and they're charming.

[Hardest_Rocker]

sure. people say their new album sucks. it does but its not as annoying as the old stuff. im not just dissing them knowing nothing about them. i give bands chances. ive given slipknot too many.

[Paranoidd]

Slipknots best album = Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat.

No Corey...makes it better right there.

FACT: Slipknot has gotten softer with each album.

[paper2302]

FACT:They haven't got softer on every Album.
Iowa is harder than The Self Titled.

[Paranoidd]

FACT: I don't think so.
FACT: What I think is fact.

[MoX_KIll]

Actaully Iowa was harder then there S/T but there both good

[pyrofingerz]

1. Sit It Out 2. Wait and Bleed 3. Duality 4. Disasterpiece 5. The Heretic Anthem 6. Pulse of the Maggots 7. My Plague 8. People=**** 9. (sic) 10. eyeless 11. The Blister Exists 12. Before I forget 13. Me Inside 14. The Nameless 15. Welcome 16. The Virus of Life 17. Liberate 18. New Abortion 19. Do Nothing/ Bitchslap 20. Surfacing What are you guys talking about? Slipknot is just as great as they've always been. Save for Danger- Keep Away of course.

[darkthrone]

slipknots first two albums r the only ones which i can actually listen to again and agian and never get bored of them. i reckon slipknot is the craziest album, iowa the heaviest and subliminal verses the darkest. too many gr8 songs to mention

[pyrofingerz]

Dude, how the **** can you call yourself the Hardest Rocker? **** you and your anti-metal outlook. [/I dont like Slipknot. They are annoying nu-metal.] **** you.

[Scourge]

I think is really impossible have a Slipknot thread without flaming :/, people dont respect each other, thats sad :upset:

[Paranoidd]

Dude, how the **** can you call yourself the Hardest Rocker? **** you and your anti-metal outlook. [/I dont like Slipknot. They are annoying nu-metal.] **** you.

Not liking slipknot does not make him anti-metal.

I think everything they've done other then MFKR and half of the s/t was utter shyte. I can't stand Corey, I think everything he does is trash. Worst vocalist in metal right now, IMO.

[The JoZ]

FACT: I don't think so.
FACT: What I think is fact.


There are no facts here, only opinions. Get off your high horse.

[Paranoidd]

It's not my fault I'm always right.

[Hardest_Rocker]

Dude, how the **** can you call yourself the Hardest Rocker? **** you and your anti-metal outlook. [/I dont like Slipknot. They are annoying nu-metal.] **** you.

OH Look! Nobody cares what you think.

[everyonesbitch]

Slipknot rules, Joey deserves everyone's respect. why can't we all just let them play for the people that like them. they've don'e plenty of things to piss me off. like stone sour and volume 3. But Slipknot's just a band that will go down in the metal history books for putting on a great show and entertaining millions of fans. you don't like them, die. post a thread about your favorite band. wait no...die!

[relliK]

Not liking slipknot does not make him anti-metal.

I think everything they've done other then MFKR and half of the s/t was utter shyte. I can't stand Corey, I think everything he does is trash. Worst vocalist in metal right now, IMO.

What exactly do you not like about Corey?

[Kingofdudes]

It's not my fault I'm always right.

Way to think like Maddox :thumb:

Their new "Sellout" album is the only one that I like IMO.

[relliK]

Sellout album or not, its the best thing Slipknot has ever produced.The only thing stopping alot of people from liking it is a pre-concieved notion.I see tons of reviews on amazon.com saying "this album is very good, but it doesnt sound like slipknot.I give it 1 star".If they would just quit being so biased, they'd see it for what it is.Anyway, have any of you seen the Vermilion video stills at roadrun.com?That vid looks weird.Cool I guess.I dont know.Not what I expected but hey, thats what this whole Vol.3 era has been all about.

[Kingofdudes]

Im not saying they "soldout", its what all the moronic "Goths" say about it.

[relliK]

I never said you did.The moronic goths that are saying they sold out are no older than 13.So its not really a legitamite claim unless someone with brains makes it.

Selling out to me is making an album that sounds like your previous(successful)album because "Thats what everyone wants to hear".Not going different directions with your music.

[Kingofdudes]

I never said you did.The moronic goths that are saying they sold out are no older than 13.So its not really a legitamite claim unless someone with brains makes it.

Selling out to me is making an album that sounds like your previous(successful)album because "Thats what everyone wants to hear".Not going different directions with your music.

That is what really wants to smack idiots. Mainstream would want catchy music, without much musicianship. Yet this new album has much better musicianship compared to their older stuff. People are stupid :smash:


How much are tickets usually for a Slipknot show? I hear they really shine live, and I might want to check them out if they come around here.

[The JoZ]

If you want to talk about Slipknot being sellouts, the first two albums were selling out.

Ross Robinson made them do the music that way...the new album is more about Slipknot's true talent than just making music loud and fast.

[Paranoidd]

What exactly do you not like about Corey?

Everything. He writes the most immature, generic, banal, angsty lyrics I've ever heard. People say they love the way he sings, when he sounds like the same cheesy rock ballad singers that they insult. I don't like his screaming either.

Their original vocalist Anders Colsefni was much better, IMHO.

[Lenny_uk]

i think Corey is slightly over rated, but he still is a good singer, i can't say hes bad in anyway IMO

[relliK]

If you want to talk about Slipknot being sellouts, the first two albums were selling out.

Ross Robinson made them do the music that way...the new album is more about Slipknot's true talent than just making music loud and fast.

Very true.He basically molded them to the angsy band that is present on s/t and Iowa.Not to mention making them remove their soloing during pre-production, and making them simplify their riffs on Iowa.The Crowz demos they made in 1997 are closer to vol.3 than their other 2 albums.It's more of a "back to square 1" album.

[schweinhunt]

I never said you did.The moronic goths that are saying they sold out are no older than 13.So its not really a legitamite claim unless someone with brains makes it.

Selling out to me is making an album that sounds like your previous(successful)album because "Thats what everyone wants to hear".Not going different directions with your music.
You mean like Overkill, Vio-lence or maybe some Slayer albums? We made this album like the previous great thrash album, because THRASH IS WHAT THEY WANNA HEAR! Going different directions for the sake of going different directions; waving your **** around like Metallica and answering to the fans demands with a "f*ck off" does not guarantee that the new music will have any content. You fail to sound like you know sh*t.

Carreer success, THAT is what selling out is. It's certainly a good thing, but some start sucking for the sake of selling out.

[The JoZ]

Everything. He writes the most immature, generic, banal, angsty lyrics I've ever heard.

"Bones in the water and dust in my lungs
Absorbing archaic like a sponge
The ultimate way is the way you control
But can you stay if you detach your soul?
Bury the present and squeeze out the past
The ones you endear to never last
Chemical burns and the animalistic
I'm just another hardline pseudo-statistic

Blood on the paper and skin on my teeth
Trying to commit to what's beneath
To find the time is to lose the momentum
You learn the lessons and immediately forget them
Automatic and out of my reach
Consult all the waste to find the key
Minimal life and the polysyllabic
I'm just another blank page - push the button, pull the rage "

"Chaos - it's just the beginning
Every promise I made I'm rescinding
Center mass in the middle of the monster
I'm getting tired of drowning the constant
cry for help - it's debatable
The only reason that you love me is I'm hated by all
Come on - Come see dysfunction
I guess we're gonna leave it open for discussion

Holed up, scarred and tamed for the hell of it
Look at me - I'm the glorified malcontent
Save me? Save this!
All I gotta do is give up and all is forgiven
I'm sick - Of being the butt of a cosmic joke
And I don't get the punch line
A million people lined up for miles
To see the Great Big Mouth shut up and apologize"


"Watch those idiosyncrasies
Watch all the idiots fall on me
Getting out of ways to get outta the way
Take another shot just to stay the same
But I need some balance - Back it off
Fill your lungs 'til it makes you cough
Tell me everything's gonna be alright
'Cause I don't think I'll make it through tonight

Do one thing and say something cryptic
But the styles always clash
One thing I know for sure
The hypothetical won't work anymore
One wrong move and they will pound!
My nails are tight inside my wrists
This sacrament is sacrilege and sentimental
Deity experimental - Faith is accidental "

'Circle
Give me the dust of my fathers
Stand on the face of the ancients
Bare the secret flesh of time itself

Follow me... I've come so far, I'm behind again
Follow me... I Wish so hard, I'm there again
Follow me...

All that I wanted were things I had before
All that I needed, I never needed more
All of my questions are answers to my sins
And all of my endings are waiting to begin

I know the way, but I faulter
I can't be afraid of my patience
There's a sacred place Razel keeps safe

Follow me... I've seen so much I'm blind again
Follow me... I feel so bad I'm alive again
Follow me...

All that I wanted were things I had before
All that I needed, I never needed more
All of my questions are answers to my sins
And all of my endings are waiting to begin "

Lyrical paragon? Probably not, but a huge improvement from the stuff on the S/T or Iowa.

I am thoroughly convinced everything that Slipknot was is simply because of Ross Robinson.

He had nothing to do with MFKR, or Volume 3, and those seem to be their most highly acclaimed albums...well, alot of people say the S/T was good too...but from my POV, it is not.

[relliK]

You mean like Overkill, Vio-lence or maybe some Slayer albums? We made this album like the previous great thrash album, because THRASH IS WHAT THEY WANNA HEAR! Going different directions for the sake of going different directions; waving your **** around like Metallica and answering to the fans demands with a "f*ck off" does not guarantee that the new music will have any content. You fail to sound like you know sh*t.

Carreer success, THAT is what selling out is. It's certainly a good thing, but some start sucking for the sake of selling out.

Notice how I started my statement with "Selling out to me is..." rather than making it sound like fact.Its my opinion.Im just stating it.The day a musician makes music to satisfy others rather than to satisfy themselves is the day they sell out.On themselves at least.Why not say "we made this album sound this way because we felt like going this direction"?Sure "sell out" has very many definitions, but this is the one I feel most strongly about.Looking at music from an art standpoint, why paint the same potrait twice, or make similar ones?You dont have to.You can go different directions with your artistic endevour.Its called being an artist.Slipknot are-Artists.Sure fan satisfaction is part or making music, but losing and gaining fans is inevitable.Why be "middle of the road" with the music decisions you make?Grow some balls and take risks.Thats the fun of it isnt it?I dont think Slayer has sold out but from my standpoint maybe they have.They have been declining since 1990.They seem to make "follow up" albums rather than striding to outdo themselves.Every album they make never leaves the shadow of RIB.Sure its a tough act to follow, and sure Slayer loves the music they make and dont feel the need to go different directions, but GHUA was their weakest showing.Its not half of RIB.

Like I said,the term "sell out" has many different definitions, and your opinion on it is just different from mine.

[relliK]

How much are tickets usually for a Slipknot show? I hear they really shine live, and I might want to check them out if they come around here.

I saw them during the Jagermiester show for about $25.So maybe the prices are around there.

[Kingofdudes]

That's a pretty good price, but I doubt they will come to the Biloxi area.

[schweinhunt]

Notice how I started my statement with "Selling out to me is..." rather than making it sound like fact.Its my opinion.Im just stating it.Who cares about your opinion; you made something called a statement, and as it seems you don't have a point which makes any sense.

The day a musician makes music to satisfy others rather than to satisfy themselves is the day they sell out.On themselves at least.Why not say "we made this album sound this way because we felt like going this direction"? Sure "sell out" has very many definitions, but this is the one I feel most strongly about.
That's not what you said the first time. First selling out was "not going different directions", now it's suddenly "satisfying others rather than to satisfy themselves". THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. For example, how can YOU tell sticking to brutal thrash (ie. Vio-lence, Slayer before the late 90s) does not satisfy the bands themselves? Vio-lence made one brutal thrash masterpiece, and then they made another almost as brutal thrash classic - so now they've sold out? Then go listen to pretty much every hardcore punk band - they've all sold out in that sense, but Metallica or Motley Crue never sold out since they changed?

Looking at music from an art standpoint, why paint the same potrait twice, or make similar ones?You dont have to.You can go different directions with your artistic endevour.Its called being an artist.Slipknot are-Artists.Interpretation: It's OK to make a worthless cr*p album of any sort, as long as it's different.

I haven't often heard two thrash songs which sound very similar. Making five masterpiece albums in a row still counts as a good thing, even if they're all a similar brand of thrash and you like thrash. Slayer didn't need to push the envelope of prog rock, rap, or power metal - because they were too busy pushing the envelope of thrash all the time. And that makes them less artists?

Sure fan satisfaction is part or making music, but losing and gaining fans is inevitable.Why be "middle of the road" with the music decisions you make?Grow some balls and take risks.Thats the fun of it isnt it?
Having balls is rocking as hard as you can. Fun is me thrashing in the moshpit as Slayer unleashes a setlist of 20 insanely brutal thrash classics. If they threw in a soft rock song, would it make you feel any better? Forgive me for thinking St. Anger was the worst album ever made - it was then fun only because it was different!

They have been declining since 1990.They seem to make "follow up" albums rather than striding to outdo themselves.Every album they make never leaves the shadow of RIB.Sure its a tough act to follow, and sure Slayer loves the music they make and dont feel the need to go different directions, but GHUA was their weakest showing.Its not half of RIB.
What the hell are you talking about, GHUA and Diabolus match your definition of "not selling out", since none of them are classic thrash like RiB. They're very borderline to being thrash, more of modern hardcore.

EXCUSE ME, HAS ANYONE SEEN LOGIC AROUND HERE, BECAUSE I SURE HAVEN'T!

[schweinhunt]

I dont think Slayer has sold out but from my standpoint maybe they have.Wait! I wanna hear what you actually meant with this? Why was it necessary to tell this - since obviously you were trying to communicate something because you wrote it.

[feedthegods666]

yaay my thread was ressurected

[DONT KNOW]

Slipknot are awesome, but i've moved away from them, i don't listen to them as much any more, for me, their latest album was a dissapointment, it was a change in their style of music which to me, makes COREY not the band, it makes corey a sellout. I only say this because all of slipknot say stuff like "corey was a real drive for us this time around".

i agree 100% i love slipknot and there awesome but they have came kind of mainstream i like vol3 but it is kind of gay that they have to change

[relliK]

That's not what you said the first time. First selling out was "not going different directions", now it's suddenly "satisfying others rather than to satisfy themselves". THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. For example, how can YOU tell sticking to brutal thrash (ie. Vio-lence, Slayer before the late 90s) does not satisfy the bands themselves? Vio-lence made one brutal thrash masterpiece, and then they made another almost as brutal thrash classic - so now they've sold out? Then go listen to pretty much every hardcore punk band - they've all sold out in that sense, but Metallica or Motley Crue never sold out since they changed?

Ok, I should have been more specific with that.Especially because that "not going different directions"only really applies to mainstream bands such as Slipknot.It doesnt really apply to Slayer's situation.Ok, Slipknot had the hit single "wait and bleed" and went platinum with both s/t and Iowa.They could have gone "hey, thats an easy way to make money.Lets follow it up more of the same because its obvously working".Then they go into the studio and record 14 Wait and Bleeds or another Iowa just because that formula made them dough in the past and its taking the easy way out.Not doing it for their own musical satisfaction, but doing it to satisfy the music industry and the mainstream consumer.Wouldnt that be considered selling out?Yes.I never made the assumption that Slayer or Vio-lence didnt find satisfaction in the music they are making.They of coarse, are not having mainstream success. They are following up with more of the same because they obviously enjoy it, not because its making them loads of money.Like I said, my first statement doesnt apply to them because they are not constantly in the mainstream eye.Being that this is a Slipknot thread, I adressed their situation without being specific about who I was talking about.My mistake.

Interpretation: It's OK to make a worthless cr*p album of any sort, as long as it's different.

I haven't often heard two thrash songs which sound very similar. Making five masterpiece albums in a row still counts as a good thing, even if they're all a similar brand of thrash and you like thrash. Slayer didn't need to push the envelope of prog rock, rap, or power metal - because they were too busy pushing the envelope of thrash all the time. And that makes them less artists?

As I said, I should have been alot more specific.No, its not Ok to make a worthless peice of crap album as long as its in a different directions.Metallica is a good example of this as you pointed out.What I meant was that going different directions as long as you have the same drive or passion as before is ok.Dumbing music down to fit "whats hot"(which Metallica did with St.Anger) would be an instance of conformity, not a change in musical direction.If Slayer was busy pushing the envelope of thrash all the time, then good for them.They are being artists.They are doing what they love doing and giving it their all.Cant dog them for that.As long as they dont start seeming bored with the formula but continue at it because other people are getting satisfaction out of it.

Having balls is rocking as hard as you can. Fun is me thrashing in the moshpit as Slayer unleashes a setlist of 20 insanely brutal thrash classics. If they threw in a soft rock song, would it make you feel any better? Forgive me for thinking St. Anger was the worst album ever made - it was then fun only because it was different!

Sure, having balls is rocking out as hard as you can and playing a set of brutality.Slayer may still be as much fun with it as they did 20 years ago.Thats fine.Good for them.I was about having balls with the music choices you make.This doesnt apply to Slayers situation, but it applies to Slipknot's.I guess I have a nack for being specific :rolleyes: Slipknot has a reputation for being 9 angry dudes in masks playing fast angy music.Would it be crazy to release an album with acoustic tracks and 3 part harmonies after establishing yourself as a band that only plays fast and heavy stuff?Releasing Vol.3 was a ballsy move that could have easily blew up in their faces.I salute them for making that move.Not every band would dare to do such a thing.Dont apologize for hating St.Anger, I completely agree.That vain attempt at mainstream success doesnt deserve to reach anyones ears.

What the hell are you talking about, GHUA and Diabolus match your definition of "not selling out", since none of them are classic thrash like RiB. They're very borderline to being thrash, more of modern hardcore.
EXCUSE ME, HAS ANYONE SEEN LOGIC AROUND HERE, BECAUSE I SURE HAVEN'T!

I admit that that statement may have been a bit premature. I should wait until their next album(with Dave back)before I can really make that claim and feel 100% about it.But tell me, did you really hear that same passion and hunger in GHUA that you heard in their much earlier.I myself really didnt.That album lacked in my opinion.The change would have be fine had it had they really "pushed the envelope" in the direction they went in.I may sound like a ****in paradox just rambling on like this but I dont care.I prolly sound like Im condradicting myself left and right.If you dont understand where Im coming from, than I guess that sucks for me now doesnt it?

[relliK]

Wait! I wanna hear what you actually meant with this? Why was it necessary to tell this - since obviously you were trying to communicate something because you wrote it.

I wrote it like that because Im wishy washy on it.Sure, Slayer is still delivering blistering metal but I feel that their heart isnt in it as much as it once was.I feel that they may have gotten really confortable in their "Kings of Metal" throne.I hope to be proved wrong with the next album, but this is kind of where I stand as of now.

[Zachmo06RF]

does anybody know where I can find some drum tabs for duality???

[schweinhunt]

relliK, I think you oughta stop playing inside the wishy washing machine and go have a beer instead.

[relliK]

*grabs beer*

Anyway, have any of you got a hold of that Vermilion video?Every site that had or has it has been raped like crazy.Looks like I came too late.

[vaynesinknots]

i just dled it yesterday from urbanchaosvideos, it was down for a while, but it was back on later in the day.

[Zachmo06RF]

curse slipknot for tuning the freaking drums so low......I can't hear crap when I try to play duality.....I need TABS!!!!!

[relliK]

I can hear the drums just fine.But anyway, I just saw the video and I thought it was pretty cool.Could they have cut any more parts out of the song?Jesus.That was really the only downside.The video reminds me of the movie Requiem for a Dream in a way.Its prolly Slipknot's best video.

[paper2302]

Yeah the video was cool. Its messed up how they put their faces on as masks.And they cut like, the whole guitar solo out.The video is really good.But that sucks cause since it is good MTV will get it and...

[kh202]

^^^
...it will get turned into a played out piece of crap like every other good song that had a good video.

Also, I would just like to add that Vol. 3 was an extremely good album, and the only reason I realized that is because that's the one that got me hooked on Slipknot. Before that I had never heard any of their music, but my friend let me listen to his and now I'm hooked and gettin into some of their earlier stuff as well.

O.K., now i have a question for everyone. Do you think it would be cool to see Jim, Mick and Corey do an acoustic album together? I do because of the wway the acoustic stuff turned out on Vol. 3.

[eggs'n'spam]

hm, i dunno, dont listen to much slipknot..should i bother listening to them?

[paper2302]

It would be cool for Stonesour to do that, with mick as a guest. But not Slipknot. But if they did i guess that would be cool, especially if corey was sreaming.

[relliK]

One thing I just noticed on Vol.3 is the syncronization(so I cant spell) between Corey and the guitars.Its crazy.Jim and Mick do these little changes that go with Corey's words.Most of the songs on it are like that.

[Paranoidd]

One thing I just noticed on Vol.3 is the syncronization(so I cant spell) between Corey and the guitars.Its crazy.Jim and Mick do these little changes that go with Corey's words.Most of the songs on it are like that.

You mean harmony?

:lol:

[relliK]

There you go.

[kh202]

hm, i dunno, dont listen to much slipknot..should i bother listening to them?

Yes, by all means. but, get started with vol.3 and then move on to the older stuff, becuase if you dont then you'll be brainwashed into thinkin that Vol. 3 sux when it doesnt AT ALL.

[Paranoidd]

Start with Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat.

You won't want to listen to any of the other albums.

[paper2302]

Not anything againest you or Slipknot, they are my favorite band, but everyone says Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat. was their best album.I recently got a copy of it from a friend and it wasn't the best I have heard in my opinion.
I could under stand if its just cause they hate a different vocalist.(I just read that paranoid guy hates corey)

[LeoMondaine2]

OK so lets talk about Slipknot's new video for the song Vermillion.

if you havent seen it, you can download it from
http://www.urbanchaosvideos.com
(go to downloads page, then its the third one down- right click>Save target as)

In the middle video the members of slipknot reveal their real faces (sort of)

they put on painted latex masks that are moulds of their real faces, so they can reveal themselfs with out taking off a 'mask'.

I feel with the bands obvious maturity on the new album that they want to be maskless but feel they would be labelled as sell-outs and lose fans etc. Especially after saying 'the day we take the masks off is the day Slipknot comes to and end'... I think they've grown past the masks now and just want to be known as musicicans... this is backed up in the new Vermilion video where they got past this by wearing masks of their own faces, so that they could not be picked on for going maskless. What do you think?

[paper2302]

sorry to change sub
Did you hear about Craig have to leave the European tour? And Sid is going to do the samples and stuff while he is gone.

[Paranoidd]

Not anything againest you or Slipknot, they are my favorite band, but everyone says Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat. was their best album.I recently got a copy of it from a friend and it wasn't the best I have heard in my opinion.

Most of the reasons I like MFKR is because I think Corey is horrible and can't stand him. I think all of the members of the band perform great on the album, it's got a diverse feel to it. The funky stuff like Do Nothing/Bitchslap is really interesting.

It's the only slipknot album I really like, although I'll give the s/t a spin once in a while but only about half the tracks. Iowa & Vol 3 suck.

[paper2302]

About the video, its a good video. And it was wierd how they did that with the masks. I remember an article on a site that when mudvayne stopped doing the make up and stuff they felt like they could play better and make better music. But with Slipknot its opposite,like they said what was in your post(leo) they would end.

[paper2302]

Do nothing/bitchslap is a great song cause you can tell they have a bassist along with the rest of the songs.

[Paranoidd]

Heh, yeah. You wonder where he is on the other ones.

[paper2302]

After you said something about Do nothing/bitchslap i was listening to it and if that is Paul about 2:50 sec in the song,that bass line was really really cool.I wish their bassist would do stuff like that now.

[LeoMondaine2]

sorry to change sub
Did you hear about Craig have to leave the European tour? And Sid is going to do the samples and stuff while he is gone.

yea somthins wrong with his teeth and he needs surgery, i think sid will do the samples, or at least some of the more important samples

[paper2302]

I've noticed something at my school. I am like the biggest Slipknot fan, in like the whole state of Oklahoma but i don't wear black all the time or all the Slipknot shirts(not saying that maggots do) And any way, only me and my friend were like the only ones who did. Now this year of school a person got into them over the summer and writes it every where, started wearing black. And i have seen in posts how people hate, even despise Slipknot fans.And i think they are talking about this guy,and i'm starting to hate him because he over does it alot.But not cause he like Slipknot, but because he is feeding the sterotype. Any one know what i am Talking about?

[LeoMondaine2]

yes there is a big difference between someone who loves slipknots and the people who are the so called "maggots" who are all ghey and poserish and are all like"(sic)". those people are just really annoying people who probabbly dont know as much as they think they do about slipknot and dont appreaciate them in the right way. these are the people that are causing all fans of slipknot to be flamed to hell. i like slipknots music but im not like freaking owned by them.

and im not talking about u paper, im talking about the "mall goth" kids who wear spikes and numetal pants from hottopic and think theyre soo cool.

[paper2302]

Yeah

[Griffin_Page]

I STICK MY FINGERS INTO MY EYES!

I hate Slipknot. :D

[bassplayer_04]

I am another person who thinks that Vol. 3 is their best cd they put out. I could never play their other cds more than once a day, but this one I can't seem to stop playing it and I bought it when they first released it. The musicianship on it, IMO, is better than on their s/t and on Iowa. I can't compair it to MFKR because I've only heard "Do Nothing/Bitchslap" and "Snap". Aside from the awsome bass part in "Do Nothing/Bitchslap" I don't really like either one. Just my opinion.
And as for the "mall goth" thing, well I guess I'm labled as a mall goth. Maybe some of these "mall goths" just like the color (or pigment if you want to get technical about it) black like myself. I'm not saying thats all I wear, but the majority of my clothes are. And if all of a sudden these "goths" started wearing the color...say yellow, I'd still wear black. Another point is hot topic seems to be geared more twoard these Good Charlotte "punk" kids. I can't even find a Hatebreed, Cradle of Filth or Dimmu Borgir shirt in there. I'm lucky if I can get a Slipknot shirt at the one by where I live.

[\m/Pete\m/]

I dunno, Slipknot is just not my cup of tea i guess, i just cant see whats so special about them. I didnt mind S/T, but after a few listens i kept thinking "Why isnt there more? They have 9 members" and Iwoa was the same. Ive heard MFKR and it didnt do it for me either. Off of Vol.3 the only song i can say that i really like is Three Nil

^^^ as far as the previous post, the hot topic close to where i live is like a Slipknot sanctuary..If you dont like Slipknot you arent cool. I once had the girl at the counter ask me if i would shave my head for a Slipknot shirt (since they were playing near by) and i was like you gotta be kidding me, espcially not for Slipknot

[TemperamentalGoat]

Guess I should check out MFKR then, cuz I thought Iowa and self titled sucked ***. Vol 3 however was pretty decent; Vermillion is the most metal song and the best piece they've ever put out after giving all 3 CDs a spin.

They cut the solo short in the video! :angry: it's a kinda trippy video, looks like something tool would do. Pretty **** good I'd say.

[unemloyed]

Slipknot is the best band right now and Vol 3 was the greatest cd put out this year

Your just mad because it aint faggets switchfoot or Simple plan who i do not consider a musical band

[TheSubtleArts]

Isnt there suppost to be a video for Vermillion Part 2?

[slaughteredfirst]

Eh Slipknot I dont really know what to think of them. I like two of their songs one is duialty and the other one is ummm it gose "You cant take my soul away from me," or something Im not sure.

Sure some of their fans are bleeding idiots Aka the mall goths as someone said before, but you cant hate a band because of their fans.

I consider them nu-metal though, but not the horrible kind like limp bisket and linkion park and them.

Oh and here is a qustion for the slipknot fans here what do those two guys that sort of do nothing do? *not saying they dont do anything I just was wondering cause they dont play insterments and all the live shots of them I have seen they are just sorta standing there*

[Ozzman_666]

saying "what do the 2 guys that do nothin, what do they do?" doesnt help anyone.
they all do something just watch a music video.
secondly what kind of bass does paul play? i know its a Warwick but what kind of warwick. email me so i dont have to search throught the thread. randy_rhoads_666@hotmail.com

[Kage]

"Those two guys" are percussionists. They actually greatly contribute to the percussive sound of the band, which is prominent and very definitive in their sound. While the drummer does the fast blast-beat and cymbol-crashing stuff, the two percussionists add a very rhythymic aspect to it, correlating with the bass for that heavy thunderous percussive force that locks in with the guitars. So, obviously, they are not just "doing nothing"

[libertine2020]

saying "what do the 2 guys that do nothin, what do they do?" doesnt help anyone.
they all do something just watch a music video.
secondly what kind of bass does paul play? i know its a Warwick but what kind of warwick. email me so i dont have to search throught the thread. randy_rhoads_666@hotmail.com

You're not Randy Rhoads, why is your e-mail stating that you are? If your name really is Randy Rhoads then ignore this and if it is really not then f uck you

[The JoZ]

First off, the Vermilion video is awesome. Reminds me of something Tool would've done. The mask-over-mask thing was cool, too bad Craig didn't do it too...

Secondly, the 'two guys standing around' being referred to, are most likely not Chris and Shawn, their extra drummers, but rather Craig and Sid, their sample/media, and now with Vol 3, keyboard guy...and Sid, their DJ. Honestly, I thought they were useless too, but Volume 3 shows what they can really do.

[relliK]

Purity is Sid's best song.

[The JoZ]

Yeah, so I've heard.

I've never heard Purity, so I can't tell.

But I like his work on "The Nameless" alot...and the intro to "Eyeless" is pretty cool.

[CreepingBlack]

Slipknot doesn't have swearing on their new cd, just so it can be more "radio friendly". If thats true, then Slipknot are sellouts.

[CreepingBlack]

You're not Randy Rhoads, why is your e-mail stating that you are? If your name really is Randy Rhoads then ignore this and if it is really not then f uck you
hmm, maybe he likes randy rhoades. Have you ever thought about that? Quit being a douche, douche. :lol: :lol:

[Chris-Bassist]

1.Vermillion
2.Left Behind
3.Duality
4.Wait And Bleed
5.Heretic Anthem


thats all i can think of right now im like half awake drinkin soda and listenin to music:)

[relliK]

Slipknot doesn't have swearing on their new cd, just so it can be more "radio friendly". If thats true, then Slipknot are sellouts.


No.I dont think that was the reason.They have matured and they wanted this album to show it.They are all around 30 years old now.They are old to be writing lyrics like "F*ck it all, f*ck this world" or "People=Sh*t".I think they realized it.Besides that this was the most important album of their career.This could be their farewell or their landmark album that will secure a few more years in their career.A curse free album has more longevity with the listener than an album with f*cks and sh*ts all over it.

[Paranoidd]

No.I dont think that was the reason.They have matured and they wanted this album to show it.They are all around 30 years old now.They are old to be writing lyrics like "F*ck it all, f*ck this world" or "People=Sh*t".I think they realized it.Besides that this was the most important album of their career.This could be their farewell or their landmark album that will secure a few more years in their career.A curse free album has more longevity with the listener than an album with f*cks and sh*ts all over it.

That's a stupid argument.

There are plenty of metal bands older than them and still writing much more brutal lyrics. You make it seem like in the space between the S/T and Vol 3 they had an epiphany...no, they just decided to make a soft album, is all. You're never too old to write "fvck."

Not to mention, if they purposely didn't curse on the album, after Corey doing his ****edest to portray himself as hardcore, then yeah, that would be called selling out.

Not that I care either way, I'm just arguing from an unbiased position. I liked MFKR and about half of the S/T, but thats all.

[Candiria92]

Everyone is always bashing the new cd but I feel that it is their best to date. The musicianship is much better, and while all the songs aren't heavy there are still songs as heavy as on Iowa and the s/t on it. To me this is their most complete cd, and the songs aren't really radio freindly, they just have choruses that are sung,and the acoustic songs are dark and depressing which isn't really what is normally played on the radio(although I could be wrong because I don't listen to the radio often and when I do its when the local metal show is on). To me they didn't sell out because they did something that no one thought they would or could, they made a cd with a little less edge and a lot more substance, selling out would be going back and doing another cd like the s/t because thats what got them their fame and everything so doing that would show they just want more fame and money.

[relliK]

That's a stupid argument.

There are plenty of metal bands older than them and still writing much more brutal lyrics. You make it seem like in the space between the S/T and Vol 3 they had an epiphany...no, they just decided to make a soft album, is all. You're never too old to write "fvck."

Not to mention, if they purposely didn't curse on the album, after Corey doing his ****edest to portray himself as hardcore, then yeah, that would be called selling out.

Not that I care either way, I'm just arguing from an unbiased position. I liked MFKR and about half of the S/T, but thats all.

Right, but Slipknot already built a reputation for being angsy and cursing all the time.A title Im sure they dont want.The only way to eliminate that is by removing all cursing.Slipknot matured, sure its only been 5 years, but I read interviews from 99 and I read interviews from now and I see they arent the trash talking egomaniacs they used to be.And as I said, they did it to acheive longevity.s/t and Iowa will only stay with the fans through their teens and then they grow out of them due to their immature lyrics.Vol.3 on the other hand, may have a longer run amoung them.

[paper2302]

I think about the band live.They still do the S/T And Iowa songs live,still have F*ck you in them and the "cursing". And they are still as hard just not on this album.They got way more creative. If you listen to Iowa its alot heavier. Listen to Vol:3 Way more creative. And wy does it matter? They are still Slipknot Right? If that made any sense

[procreationb]

I've been a fan of slipknot since ".mate.feed.kill.repead." And i've heard several interviews of them saying how ****ed up they are ect. But seems like they realized people don't even need to hear that, what do they care what you think. They said before vol. 3 came out that it was the best album they ever did. Why do they need anyones approval, hell I wouldn't give a **** either.

[paper2302]

Yeah. Slipknot. You just wrote what i tried to. I didn't know how to put it into words.

[DimebagDemmel]

Slipknot is cool for their sheer brutality, but 3 didnt do it for me. I was stoked to hear that Mick was gunna play solos, but then I heard them. Not impressed, sloppy and sometimes just sounded like just a bunch of notes just thrown together. Duality and Pulse are cool tho.

[Karmen Jones]

1 People=S*#t
2 Diluted
3 Eeyore
4 My plague
5 Surfacing
6 Heretic Anthem
7 Wait and bleed
8 Spit it out
10 Duality
11 (SIC)
12 Left Behind
13 Pulse of the maggots
14 Vermillion Part 2
15 Snap
16 The Nameless
17 Before I Forget
18 no Life
19 Welcome
20 Vermillion Part 1

In order

[The JoZ]

Slipknot built a reputation on swearing out the ***, and writing short, heavy songs. I need to find the magazine again, but I read an interview with Joey about the new album, and he commented on the lack of swearing...something to the effect that it wasn't necessary, or something, I don't remember.

Honestly, who cares if they don't swear in this album? If you actually pay attention to the lyrics, these are the best lyrics they have ever written. Not angsty? Vermilion, 1 and 2 are full of it, but they are written in a far better way than typical Linkin Park or Korn angst.

I do agree with Paranoidd in the sense that you're never 'too old' to be swearing or writing brutal lyrics...but I do disagree in the sense that I think they did have an epiphany. Namely, they got rid of Ross Robinson, and got a producer who let them do what THEY wanted to do.

Lyrics do not make an album soft or hard. If Linkin Park started swearing in their next album, that would not make them any harder than they already are (or are not). Slipknot forgoing songs like "People = ****" for songs like "Vermilion" is not a bad thing, and it does not make them any less hard than they were before Volume 3 came out. Period.

[slaughteredfirst]

"Those two guys" are percussionists. They actually greatly contribute to the percussive sound of the band, which is prominent and very definitive in their sound. While the drummer does the fast blast-beat and cymbol-crashing stuff, the two percussionists add a very rhythymic aspect to it, correlating with the bass for that heavy thunderous percussive force that locks in with the guitars. So, obviously, they are not just "doing nothing"


K thanks I just have seen pics of them live and they are just sorta standing on stage so I didnt really know what to think.

[TheDreamerHimself]

1. Purity
2. Gently
3. Spit it out
4. Diluted
5. Vermillion

anyway, I think in a global point of view the 3rd cd is as good as the s/t. the worst full lenght album is iowa.
I kind of got sick of hearing "F*CK IT ALL F*CK THIS WORLD" over and over again...its cool too have one or two songs like that but not 54059 cds with just that...its plain stupid, im glad they have realized that in time, and made an exelent cd.

worst slipknot songs.

1.my plague
2.pulse of the maggots
3.left behind
4.surfacing

[relliK]

The Blister Exists,Three Nil, Welcome, and Opium of the People have the same amount of anger as anything before but in a much more grown up manner.Vermilion pt.1 and 2, The Nameless(which is actually Purity pt.2), and the Virus of Life have the same themes that Prosthetics, Purity, Iowa, and Everything Ends.They are songs about psychotic obsession delivered in a much more dignified manner.Their lyrics are still as dark as they have been.Vermilion pt.2 is a dichotamy of brutal and beautiful.On one side its a beautiful acoustic song that comes across as a ballad, but on the other its a dark song about wanting to kill someone your obsessed with.Thats what makes this album pretty cool.That kind of stuff is all over the album.My rant is done.

[paper2302]

I like them because of their music, all of it.

[TheSubtleArts]

whats up with craig? i heard he isnt performing in thier next few concerts or something.

[superpeer]

No, I saw them on Friday and Craig wasn't there.

Corey said he was having surgery.

[duxbutter]

Has anyone does a cover of this song?
I'd be intrested in hearing it. But Not ones with vocals, cause lets face it, coreys vocals rule over that ****, no one could do justise and it would be ruined..
Just an instrumental version of it all instruments drums guitar, etc. That would be killer.

Its just a rock out beat everyone you see type of song.

[TheSubtleArts]

^ what song??

[Candiria92]

^^ sic

[duxbutter]

errr, im a dumbass, i got all confused cause i didn't know there was an offical slipknot thread, and was told to post in here...sorry

Anyways, my above post is referring to the song ,(sic), instrumental cover song, no vocals.

[maggot4875]

Yeah, so I've heard.

I've never heard Purity, so I can't tell.

But I like his work on "The Nameless" alot...and the intro to "Eyeless" is pretty cool.

im pretty sure thats guitar

[relliK]

The intro to Eyeless is Sid.

[The JoZ]

First off, the intro to "Eeyore" is guitar. The intro to "Eyeless", which is a different song, is most definetly Sid.

Secondly, Craig had to go back to Iowa for "emergency dental surgery". Jim was quoted as saying that Craig could not eat or sleep right, and was completely miserable, so he saw a doctor, and they said he needed to come back to the states.

Sid is handling all or most of Craig's parts until he comes back.

[relliK]

Yeah.I find it funny how he went all the way to the US for dental surgery.No offense to Europeans or anything, but some of you got some bad teeth.

[The JoZ]

Well, that's probably not why he came back.

He probably came back cause he has an established physician, and felt more comfortable here. If you needed some sort of surgery, you'd want to do it as close to home as was possible too...or at least in your home country.

[stone sour]

where can i get purity?

SLIPKNOT RULES!!!!!!

[relliK]

Well, that's probably not why he came back.

He probably came back cause he has an established physician, and felt more comfortable here. If you needed some sort of surgery, you'd want to do it as close to home as was possible too...or at least in your home country.

Well actually it was because he was told he needed surgery when he had it checked out in Europe.He came back to the States hoping to get better news.He got the same thing tho.

[paper2302]

It would suck when he came back he thought that the band didn't need him since Sid could cover for him and left. But thats all out of proportion.

[The JoZ]

Well actually it was because he was told he needed surgery when he had it checked out in Europe.He came back to the States hoping to get better news.He got the same thing tho.

Be that as it may, the whole comfort level thing probably had some factor in it as well.

It would suck when he came back he thought that the band didn't need him since Sid could cover for him and left. But thats all out of proportion.

The band, Jim specifically, have talked about how much they miss Craig already, so I don't think he's getting the boot anytime soon.

[relliK]

They have said that once 1 member leaves, Slipknot is over.Anyway, have any of you heard about Joey playing with Satyricon on their upcoming US tour?Apparently their drummer couldnt get into the US.

[The JoZ]

They have said that once 1 member leaves, Slipknot is over.Anyway, have any of you heard about Joey playing with Satyricon on their upcoming US tour?Apparently their drummer couldnt get into the US.

I've never heard that...I did hear that "When the masks come off, it won't be Slipknot anymore"...I've never heard abything about them breaking up if one member leaves.

Yes, I've seen the articles about Joey playing with Satyricon...I'm not really into black metal much, but that sounds pretty cool for Joey. I feel bad for Satyricon's drummer though :lol:

[The JoZ]

Sorry to double post...sorta...

Does anyone here have the video from when Slipknot played on Leno? I have seen it, but now I want to download it, and no one seems to have it...

AIM = Valor JoZ
MSN = x_thejoz_x@hotmail.com , if anyone has it and is willing to send it to me.

[Stingray man]

Personaly I don't like Slipknot's early stuff because i think it is just a guy screaming into a mike, a drummer hitting anything he wants and guitarists who have disrortion up so high i can't tell when the notes or chords change. Though saying that Slipknot (in my opinion) have matured and improved greatly by calming down and putting the distortion down and showing that they are actually good musicians that are capable of making good songs. So all in all I think that they are showing they are a good band and because of this I'm thinking about getting their newest CD and other people will think the same way as me.

[Firecracker]

i like slipknot. they are good for when i just want to listen to heavy stuff.

[Paranoidd]

Personaly I don't like Slipknot's early stuff because i think it is just a guy screaming into a mike, a drummer hitting anything he wants and guitarists who have disrortion up so high i can't tell when the notes or chords change. Though saying that Slipknot (in my opinion) have matured and improved greatly by calming down and putting the distortion down and showing that they are actually good musicians that are capable of making good songs. So all in all I think that they are showing they are a good band and because of this I'm thinking about getting their newest CD and other people will think the same way as me.

Have you heard MFKR?

[Stingray man]

[QUOTE=relliK]They have said that once 1 member leaves, Slipknot is over.QUOTE]

i don't think that a member leaving will kill them, look at the Red Hot Chili Peppers, they've had more line up changes than I remember!

[Stingray man]

Yeah.I find it funny how he went all the way to the US for dental surgery.No offense to Europeans or anything, but some of you got some bad teeth.

Just so you know, the best dental practise in the world in Europe, and America is the country with the largest percentage of obesity and have a higher chance of dental problems than all the developed countries in Europe.

:D

[TheSubtleArts]

I never heard anything about them breaking up, but i did hear that wen they unmask themselves, they wont be called slipknot anymore.

[The JoZ]

Bump...still looking for the video

[TheSubtleArts]

any1 heard anything about when the video for Vermillion Part 2 is coming out??

[The JoZ]

If anyone cares, I finally found a site that has the Leno video...

[paper2302]

Hey i care, where is it?

[The JoZ]

http://webjay.org/by/webjaybs/slipknotvideoswindowsmediaplayer#117348

[leomondaine]

the leno one was ok, have you seen the jimmy kimmel vids?

[The JoZ]

the leno one was ok, have you seen the jimmy kimmel vids?

No, I haven't.

[relliK]

www.robomuffin.com

^Jimmy Kimmel vids.The quality isnt great but they will do.

[lonely maggot]

ok lets face it, their last album is definitively not as good as their other albums but still very good, tough a little comercial to me but I love 'em anyways, I enjoy every lyric every tab I just dunno it's like something takes over me and leads me somewhere else...
well it's difficult to explain so lets get down to bussines:
MY LIST[U]
1.The Shape
2.The Heretic anthem
3.Tattered and torn
4.(sic)
5.-Eyeless
6.Liberate
7.Me Inside
8.Spit it out
9.No life
10.Get this
11.Metabolic
12.People= s***
13.Purity
14.The blister exists
15.Three Nil
16.Welcome
17.Circle
18.The pulse of the maggots
19.Wait and bleed
20.Surfacing
If I could keep going....[/FONT] :cool:

[relliK]

ok lets face it, their last album is just as good or better than their older stuff but people just refuse to open up to it.

[Paranoidd]

Riiiight.

There are two groups of people in this argument.

The people who LIKE the album and say everyone else is stupid and is trying to be cool because hating the new album is the cool thing to do, and it's a really good album, blah, blah, blah.

Then you have the people who HATE the new album and say everyone is stupid and trying to be cool because they're all over the radio and it's cool to like Slipknot now (b/c it wasn't before) and you only like mainstream and it's not as good as the old stuff and blah, blah, blah.

Both = stupid.

[relliK]

You couldnt be more wrong.

[TheSubtleArts]

my list:

1.(SiC)
2.wait & bleed
3.left behind
4.heretic anthum
5.spit it out
6.purity
7.three nil
8.eyeless
9.the shape
10.do nothing/bitch slap
11.new abortion
12.metabolic
13.the blister exits
14.opium of the people
15.my plague
16.welcome
17.disasterpiese
18.vermilion
19.people=****
20.circles
21.vermilion pt.2
22.pulse of the maggots
23.liberate
24.surfacing
25.diluted
26.duality
27.everything ends
28.the nameless
29.me inside
30.before i forget
31.eyeore
32.i am hated
33.only one
34.scream
35.prosthetics

[Paranoidd]

You couldnt be more wrong.

No, I'm right. There are at least two sides to any argument, and that's the two main sides in this one. And they're both idiots.

[TheSubtleArts]

i love all 3 cds and the few songs ive heard from MFKR.

[The JoZ]

Riiiight.

There are two groups of people in this argument.

The people who LIKE the album and say everyone else is stupid and is trying to be cool because hating the new album is the cool thing to do, and it's a really good album, blah, blah, blah.

Then you have the people who HATE the new album and say everyone is stupid and trying to be cool because they're all over the radio and it's cool to like Slipknot now (b/c it wasn't before) and you only like mainstream and it's not as good as the old stuff and blah, blah, blah.

Both = stupid.

For once, you're right.

It's a fad to either like the album and call others stupid if they don't...or to rip on the new album, and call Slipknot sellouts or something.

I love the album, but if someone else doesn't, their loss, not mine. Hating or liking something to follow the crowd is not cool, it's dumb, and it's one of the reasons that Slipknot fans have a huge reputation of being some of the dumbest around.

[POO-CUBE]

slipknots drummer a one nathan jordison is the best has anyone seen the drum sollo on the dvd where he is strapped in a chair and plays double pedals upside down supper supper killer fast :amaze: it is stupid how do you get that good as well as on guitar

[TheSubtleArts]

^ you talking about the disasterpieces dvd?

[Paranoidd]

For once, you're right.

It's a fad to either like the album and call others stupid if they don't...or to rip on the new album, and call Slipknot sellouts or something.

I love the album, but if someone else doesn't, their loss, not mine. Hating or liking something to follow the crowd is not cool, it's dumb, and it's one of the reasons that Slipknot fans have a huge reputation of being some of the dumbest around.

Well, I'm always right but that's besides the point. :D

You're right as well though.

Anybody who calls Slipknot sell-outs are idiots. Having a different producer often has massive changes to your sound (cough cough...master of puppets with magnus...) but all Slipknot did was make a different sounding album. The album was going to sell, no matter WHAT they did to it. Honestly, it could have been polka, it would have sold. I personally think it's crap, but some of the musicianship is pretty good and you can't deny that. People hop on bandwagons too much with no clue what they're talking about.

[still_not_fat]

i thought slipknot sucked big hairy balls with cream chesse but then i heard duality and though they've gave up just making noise and started making music so i bought the album that im listening to right now and i thought christ this is great so :thumb: this rulz. and circle made my jaw hit the floor well done guys n 1 else have a similar experience??

[evilmenhavenosongs]

I agree that the new album is better and shows better skill but I still don't like it at all. There's just something about it that makes me want to pull my eardrums out rather than listen to anymore although he is a better singer than screamer.

I'm also still not understanding the masks thing; they didn't want to be known for theit image in the music industry so they wear masks which are far more noticable than their faces and always make a big fuss out of the unveiling of the new masks when they don't care about their image. if they were so worried about not being recognised in Iowa why do they still need the masks now they have security and the like unless they're worried their fanbase will desert them if they lose the masks?

I don't understand the "maggot" thing either, is it not enough to say that you are a fan of a band, or that they are your favourite band without likening yourself to a bug?

I was polite and all, more polite than I usually would have een so I expect not to be flamed back if you please.

[Paranoidd]

I got a promo of "pulse of the maggots" about a month before the album came out, and I had an opposite experience...my jaw hit the floor alright, but it was more like "what is this crap?"

If they're going to release promos, don't use the weakest track on the album :rolleyes:

[why_so_green_and_lonely?]

slipknots drummer a one nathan jordison is the best has anyone seen the drum sollo on the dvd where he is strapped in a chair and plays double pedals upside down supper supper killer fast it is stupid how do you get that good as well as on guitar

hes good but he aint the best....listen to thomas lang or mike portnoy

[TheSubtleArts]

I don't understand the "maggot" thing either, is it not enough to say that you are a fan of a band, or that they are your favourite band without likening yourself to a bug?

i think your taking it a little too seriously, its just what they say because people feed off thier music or whatever, just something stupid.

[GnOm]

I'm also still not understanding the masks thing; they didn't want to be known for theit image in the music industry so they wear masks which are far more noticable than their faces and always make a big fuss out of the unveiling of the new masks when they don't care about their image. if they were so worried about not being recognised in Iowa why do they still need the masks now they have security and the like unless they're worried their fanbase will desert them if they lose the masks?

I don't understand the "maggot" thing either, is it not enough to say that you are a fan of a band, or that they are your favourite band without likening yourself to a bug?
__________________________________________________ _______________

The reason for the name Maggots: Before their big breaktrough Slipknot played a consert and it was a horde of fans and they swarmed below the stage..joey said: dude they look like maggots. And after tht they just have used the word

MASKS: They are not using masks to hide them selves...Corey said that the masks brought out all the agression they had inside and the masks hurt like crap.... you can find pictures of them unmasked....Corey and James also played/plays (dont know) in the band Stone Sour. they dont wear masks there
:thumb: you can find facts and pictures/clips/music of slipknot on www.black-goat.com

[GnOm]

slipknots drummer a one nathan jordison is the best has anyone seen the drum sollo on the dvd where he is strapped in a chair and plays double pedals upside down supper supper killer fast :amaze: it is stupid how do you get that good as well as on guitar

True. the solo is so **** great i have ever seen a drumsolo like that :thumb:

[evilmenhavenosongs]

The reason for the name Maggots: Before their big breaktrough Slipknot played a consert and it was a horde of fans and they swarmed below the stage..joey said: dude they look like maggots. And after tht they just have used the word

MASKS: They are not using masks to hide them selves...Corey said that the masks brought out all the agression they had inside and the masks hurt like crap.... you can find pictures of them unmasked....Corey and James also played/plays (dont know) in the band Stone Sour. they dont wear masks there
:thumb: you can find facts and pictures/clips/music of slipknot on www.black-goat.com

I just think things like that sound and look like gimmicks. I thought that they were "hiding themselves" because that's what I have been told in the past. I think that the music should speak for itself and let out all the aggression they have and what not and that you don't need the masks to do that. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying that they shouldn't do it if they want to, it just seems rather pointless and juvenile to me and stops people who might otherwise be fans from getting into their music.

[TheSubtleArts]

thier masks reflect thier personalities and thier music. they want everything to be about the music, sound, appearence, stage presence, they think it helps you "feel" the music

[Paranoidd]

^^^

Thats actually a very feasible explanation.

[evilmenhavenosongs]

Yes, I'll accept it I just always wondered. I have nothing aagainst putting on a show like Adam Ant did or any death metal bands do I just don't like "maggots" who try to explain how deep and meaningful it really is. I still partly believe it's a gimmick though.

[Paranoidd]

It definitely has gimmick qualities. I mean, you could put two identical looking bands side by side, one with masks and the other without, and tell me who is more interesting to look at?

[evilmenhavenosongs]

Every successful band has a gimmick even if it is the lack of a gimmick.

[TheSubtleArts]

thats true but slipknot is the kind of band that really just doesnt give a f*** about anything or especially what people think.

[leomondaine]

yes they do lol

[relliK]

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying that they shouldn't do it if they want to, it just seems rather pointless and juvenile to me and stops people who might otherwise be fans from getting into their music.

I guess they accomplished what they wanted to by wearing them.They wore them as an anti image or so they say.I never bought it but after reading your post I see how it does work as an anti-image.The masks really kept all the people that stay care about a bands image away.

[relliK]

I'm also still not understanding the masks thing; they didn't want to be known for theit image in the music industry so they wear masks which are far more noticable than their faces and always make a big fuss out of the unveiling of the new masks when they don't care about their image. if they were so worried about not being recognised in Iowa why do they still need the masks now they have security and the like unless they're worried their fanbase will desert them if they lose the masks?

I don't understand the "maggot" thing either, is it not enough to say that you are a fan of a band, or that they are your favourite band without likening yourself to a bug?

I was polite and all, more polite than I usually would have een so I expect not to be flamed back if you please.

Well, they obvously arent hiding themselves because they did go on to do side projects unmasked.It started as an anti-image but turned into an image once they grew popular.No one cant deny it gets then alot of attention.But they havent used them as money advances whatsoever.Kiss for example, used their image and put it on everything marketable.They have their faces on everything.I have yet to see or hear about Slipknot action figures or Slipknot bubble gum.They have an image that can make them bank, but they have stayed focused solely on the music.You wont see them signing huge endorsements with Calvin Klien like some unmasked rockers have.The mask/coverall thing kinda keeps them grounded when it comes to that kind of stuff.

As for the maggot thing.It was a name given to the fans by the band.People think its stupid as hell to give your fans pet names, but I think its brilliant.Heres why, if you look at other fanbases, you may find that the bands that give their fans a special name have the most loyal followings in music.Greatful Dead has the Deadheads, Kiss has the Kiss Army, ICP has the Juggalos, so on.I dont know why they are all so loyal.I guess it has a psychological effect on them.Slipknot knew what they were doing when they decided to call their fans maggots.Its a great marketing scheme.Its obvously working.Because of the whole maggot thing, Slipknot fans put intellect aside and just became loyal followers.Blind followers on some occasions.Do you think Slipknot gives 2 ****s about having dumb fans?


I got a promo of "pulse of the maggots" about a month before the album came out, and I had an opposite experience...my jaw hit the floor alright, but it was more like "what is this crap?"

If they're going to release promos, don't use the weakest track on the album :rolleyes:

You said it yourself, people were gonna by the thing anyway.Besides, Pulse of the Maggots is closer to old Slipknot than the rest of the cd is.Do you think putting Vermilion pt.2 or Circle as a promo would have been a wiser move?Obvously not.

[Don Cerebro]

Slipknot first started wearing masks just for fun, even when they were just starting out. It isn't really a big dumb goth thing, it was just a profitable comment for them to make at the time. A thing a lot of people have to understand is that producers greatly influence the sound of a band. MFKR is much different from the s/t and Iowa. Chances are that they figured that the best way to make heavy music and sell records at the same time was to go "hardcore". Young people don't want to hear real musicianship these days. If you put Steve Vai in front of nearly any 15 year old, he'll tell you to bug off and give him some Linkin Park or Good Charolette. Slipknot's entry into mainstream was heavy, blistering "noise". And I love it. It's nuts and it's angry and I can't help but like it. I like soft jazz, too. Not every Slipknot fan is retarded. I like all kinds of music, including "real metal". Mick may not be the greatest guitarist ever, but I'll tell you this, if Malmsteen were in Slipknot, he'd sound nearly identical to Mick because the producers would never give him the choice to make "good" music.

Slipknot would put really melodic stuff together if it would sell to their fanbase, but it wouldn't, so they won't. For all I know, 50 cent likes can shred like Randy Rhoads. But he'd never let anyone know because his fanbase wouldn't allow it. Think about it: If Slipknot put a real solo in one of their songs, most maggots would call it crap and not buy their stuff. Slipknot can say they are anti-image all they want, and say that they don't care about selling albums, but if that were true, then they wouldn't charge so much for merch and make so many t-shirts. They want to sell ablums and make money-- nearly every band does.

Recently they've been able to grow and write music that makes sense, but the sad truth is that they won't sell to their fanbase without sacrificing musicianship. Linkin Park has sold 25 million albums, and I can garuntee that I could hire people out of music stores to play their concerts. Real music just doesn't sell to the younger crowd anymore.


And by the way, spouting "Slipknot sux" in a Slipknot topic in now way at all puts you in a position above them. At least one person had the common sense to list reasons for his dislike of the band, and I commend him for it. But still, you shouldn't post anti-Slipknot messages in a pro-Slipknot thread. It's like going to church and telling people why Jesus is bad. You're just asking for trouble. And if by chance I said something really dumb, my bad. I'm tired, and I had a difficult day.

[GnOm]

hmm..your`e right, but in many songs Sid do many things with his turnetables but you cant hear it so well..it lays in the background , but on Spit It Out he has a very cool (thats what i mean) solo thing :D ... i do agree that craig does nearly nothing...

[GnOm]

Many people missunderstands the name "maggots" they think slipknot doesent care about their fans (that is very wrong) all members in slipknot cares very,very much for all their fans and they said that without their fans they wouldnt be what they are today...

[GnOm]

(i dont say you people do)

[TheSubtleArts]

craig does alot you just dont kno where his parts are

[Paranoidd]

Then whats the point of having him?

[Prince of Darkness]

Slipknot's terrible. Except for Duality, that's quite allright.

[Paranoidd]

Duality is one of their worst songs.

Have you heard MFKR?

[The JoZ]

Then whats the point of having him?

Until Volume 3, I had the same attitude. Craig was always seen headbanging, and not even moving his hands...so it's not like he was doing something whilst headbanging.

He got a keyboard for Volume 3, and actually uses it. Jordan Rudess, he's not, but at least he serves more of a purpose now than before.

Sid, on the other hand...he does even less than Craig from what I hear...

Slipknot's terrible. Except for Duality, that's quite allright.

This is the kind of thing we're talking about. Going into pro-band threads to bash them. I don't particularly like Iron Maiden, but I'm not going into that thread and telling them how I don't like them, now do I?

[TheSubtleArts]

sid AND craig do something in almost every song, and the ones the dont, they just headbang but so what?

[rjdxjpp]

slipn=knot has got to be one of the gayest bands i have ever listened to

[acdcfreak]

Which masks do you like better, the old ones or the new ones? i personally like the old ones better.

[BlindWriting]

It all depends on the lighting, the mood, the photography....
Some new ones, like Mick's and Joey's, albeit similiar, just look better.

[The JoZ]

slipn=knot has got to be one of the gayest bands i have ever listened to


No.


Which masks do you like better, the old ones or the new ones? i personally like the old ones better.

I like all of the new ones, except Sid's. I think it looks too generic...I liked his Iowa one alot though.

[Candiria92]

Hey, I don't know if you guys know yet, I didn't look through to find out, but Slipknot has a video for Vermilion out. Just thought i'd let you know in case you ddn't.