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Sph
12-23-2005, 06:08 AM
Yeh im the guy you flamed. but i decided not to be a dick and talk about them because i used to like them and might know something other people dont. Plus i cant argue back.:upset:
Hahah, you might like them again. Us MXers are influential people. *grabs power drill*

:evil:

Wow. Six Fingers. Never knew that. That would be sweet if he was a guitarist...

They may not have been workable fingers though...
Read again Leukeh, they got amputated anyway.

ValeOfShadows
12-23-2005, 06:09 AM
Actually i think ill give them a listen right now just for you guys.:p

Sph
12-23-2005, 06:11 AM
Actually i think ill give them a listen right now just for you guys.:p
Awww, you're not supposed to give in that easy. *puts down power drill*

:upset:

Untitled001
12-23-2005, 06:12 AM
probably not if you have seen them 3 times. are they going to release another album or not?

Yes they are going to release a new one next summer... It may be released earlier or delayed until later I'm not too sure..

ValeOfShadows
12-23-2005, 06:13 AM
hmmm people = **** iv always liked that song. And to whoever said that they tune there guitars to drop C i think they tune them lower.

ValeOfShadows
12-23-2005, 06:16 AM
Ah and joeys fills are awesome. Ill secretly listen to them so my friends dont know about this affair.:naughty::lol:

Sph
12-23-2005, 06:17 AM
They tune to B.

ValeOfShadows
12-23-2005, 06:17 AM
Thats as low as you can go i think.

ValeOfShadows
12-23-2005, 06:19 AM
Um King Jay whats does avatar mean.

Sph
12-23-2005, 06:31 AM
Do you know Chris Poland from Megadeth? OHM: is his Jazz fusion band.

ValeOfShadows
12-23-2005, 06:37 AM
No i only know Dave Mustain (not personally). What does Chris play.

Leukeh
12-23-2005, 06:41 AM
Yes they are going to release a new one next summer... It may be released earlier or delayed until later I'm not too sure..
Where the hell did you hear that?:confused: Thats when Stone Sour are supposed to be releasing... I don't think Corey would do 2 albums at once.


KingJay: Yeah I saw that they got amputated, I was just imagining...

ValeOfShadows: Lowest I've heard of being used is Standard A (and you may be able to drop it to G!) but yeah, Slipknot is Drop B

It's a bitch to tune to without a chromatic tuner...

Sph
12-23-2005, 06:42 AM
No i only know Dave Mustain (not personally). What does Chris play.
Poland did the lead guitar on the first two albums.

:smoke:

ValeOfShadows
12-23-2005, 06:46 AM
Standard A. It probably all sounds the same tuned to that.

Sph
12-23-2005, 06:48 AM
You can get 8 and 9 string guitars you know...

ValeOfShadows
12-23-2005, 06:50 AM
no i dont play guitar. I only knew about 6,7 and 12.

ValeOfShadows
12-23-2005, 06:50 AM
Anywayz back to the subject, SlipKnot are not that bad.

Leukeh
12-23-2005, 06:53 AM
He's finally coming 'round :D


That was one easy convert...:D

Slipknot use low low tunings but standardly strung guitars! Don't know why but they do...


I'm off to bed... Bye MX:wave:

paper2302
12-24-2005, 04:21 PM
They tune to A for some songs like "New Abortion", "Heretic Anthem", and "My Plague".

Drunken Viking
12-24-2005, 06:54 PM
Slipknot tunes Drop D down 1&1/2 steps. Its then B-F-B-E-G#-C#.

smart86
12-24-2005, 09:12 PM
for most songs it is around B, give or take half a tone. eg, spit it out tuning: Drop D down a further minor third (low to high:B, F#, B, E, G#, C#)

BTW its not so bad to tune if u have the correct strings, heave gauge of course (.055s - .013s ideally), otherwise the strings flop around like a bitch

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
01-04-2006, 07:23 PM
what is it with everyone wanting to call slipknot nu-metal i dont think there that at all metal is metal

Sph
01-04-2006, 07:31 PM
I never call them Nu-metal. What do you mean by 'metal is metal'?

Aakon_Keetreh
01-04-2006, 07:38 PM
i really think nu-metal is dying

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
01-04-2006, 08:27 PM
i dont see the point in calling something nu-metal yeh its diff. from i guess the old stuff or whatever but that doesnt make it any diff. if anyone knows what i mean and what im talking about

Sph
01-04-2006, 08:32 PM
i dont see the point in calling something nu-metal yeh its diff. from i guess the old stuff or whatever but that doesnt make it any diff. if anyone knows what i mean and what im talking about
Punctuation man, punctuation.

Drunken Viking
01-04-2006, 08:33 PM
What?

Sph
01-04-2006, 08:37 PM
What?
You don't know what punctuation is? Bloody hell...

Drunken Viking
01-04-2006, 08:41 PM
No, I meant what was that kid saying, I couldn't tell without him using punctuation and a clear thought process.

King_Of_Terrors
01-04-2006, 08:43 PM
Punctuation man, punctuation.

Shes a chick, and she just types like that, get over it.

Sph
01-04-2006, 08:50 PM
Shes a chick, and she just types like that, get over it.
Yeah, but even with correct punctuation it makes no sense.

PepsiMetal
01-04-2006, 09:06 PM
(S)he means (s)he doesn't believe that slipknot are nu-metal, even though they are different from the older metal.

Sph
01-04-2006, 09:10 PM
(S)he means (s)he doesn't believe that slipknot are nu-metal, even though they are different from the older metal.
Hmm, ok.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
01-05-2006, 09:59 AM
yeah thats what im saying thanks

TheTastyLettuce
01-05-2006, 10:03 AM
i really think nu-metal is dying

Wow you are quick!

smart86
01-09-2006, 08:32 PM
the genres of metal have become a completely opinion based matter now, especially when the topic is the "definition of nu-metal". in my opinion, slipknot is metal, but i dont think it fits into the any of the "coventional genres" (black, death, industrial, thrash ect.) but i dont agree with the industry cramming slipknot, and any other band which may have even slight rap/ hip-hop or wateva , influences and cramming it all under a label, and the claiming "it isnt real metal"

Drunken Viking
01-09-2006, 09:17 PM
Who said that Slipknot isn't "real metal", they are Nu-Metal, but that is a kind of metal.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
01-10-2006, 11:56 AM
dont most people bash nu-metal

Sph
01-10-2006, 12:03 PM
Yes they do. I still stand by my opinion that Slipknot aren't nu-metal.

blackthorne
01-10-2006, 12:23 PM
dont most people bash nu-metal

i dont know what slipknot is. but my definiton of nu metal is: limp bizkit linkin park and that crap so i knock it alot with slipknot being the exception

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
01-10-2006, 01:42 PM
same here i dont think slipknot is nu-metal at all i think there totally metal im not sure what genre to put them in tho someone help me out here

Sph
01-10-2006, 01:55 PM
They're far too complex to be labelled nu-metal. I'm unsure what to call them.

I'm Charming
01-10-2006, 03:24 PM
I agree. Technically thats the genre they find a home in but,

When you think of what nu metal is and who "is nu metal", slipknot isn't.

I guess just plain old metal...

I listened to Vol:3 last night... Pretty solid.

PepsiMetal
01-10-2006, 03:42 PM
Yes they do. I still stand by my opinion that Slipknot aren't nu-metal.

If they were underground people would probably call them rap metal or something like that. But obviously when a band reaches success, they'll become nu-metal. That's how it is on these forums at least. lawl

On these boards, metallica has become nu-metal, and I'd be damned if St. anger sounds anything like papa roach or limp bizkit. Oh well.

I'm Charming
01-10-2006, 03:47 PM
If they were underground people would probably call them rap metal or something like that. But obviously when a band reaches success, they'll become nu-metal. That's how it is on these forums at least. lawl

On these boards, metallica has become nu-metal, and I'd be damned if St. anger sounds anything like papa roach or limp bizkit. Oh well.


It doesn't sound much better than papa roach or limp bizkit... Thats for sure.:p

BigMike_Quebec_Canada
01-10-2006, 03:50 PM
Sorry to ask this...but i was wondering.

has anyone in this thread done any video's/audio's of them playing slipknot? i dont really feel like going through all 85 page's lol.

PepsiMetal
01-10-2006, 04:28 PM
It doesn't sound much better than papa roach or limp bizkit... Thats for sure.:p

It does to me. If either of those bands made st. anger, I would think the album was amazing for who made it.

has anyone in this thread done any video's/audio's of them playing slipknot? i dont really feel like going through all 85 page's lol.

Them playing slipknot? What?

If you mean if anyone has any slipknot vids, then I do. You can view some online at youtube.com.

TemperamentalGoat
01-11-2006, 09:34 PM
Back to the thread. I've uploaded another rendition of Slipknot's Vermillion 2. This one IMO is absolutely amazing.. blows the original out of the water in its contrast, timing, mood, balance of heavy/soft verses. Definitely the best song I've heard in 2006 so far.

http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15V84778PTQZ60WU021EGGWP74

Enjoy

Spaztikated
01-11-2006, 09:52 PM
I'm surprised this thread hasnt finished yet, usualy everyone gets shot down after the first 10 replies, but slipknot do have SOME talent, they are nu-metal though so don't think you hardcore for listening to them, ive only really heard People=****, Volume 3 The Subliminal Versus and Joeys drum solo, but ive heard alot better, i dont mind slipknot, but theres alot better. what is sad is alot of people think they are cool just because they can switch time signatures in the middle of a song, for christ sake, METALLICA do that, and they arent even heavy.... i suggest getting onto better bands such as Soilwork, Pantera or Opeth, and if you want a laugh listen to System of a Down, they have pretty good lyrics, i think they were stoned to write most of there songs though, anyway cya

PepsiMetal
01-11-2006, 10:33 PM
I'm surprised this thread hasnt finished yet, usualy everyone gets shot down after the first 10 replies, but slipknot do have SOME talent, they are nu-metal though so don't think you hardcore for listening to them, ive only really heard People=****, Volume 3 The Subliminal Versus and Joeys drum solo, but ive heard alot better, i dont mind slipknot, but theres alot better. what is sad is alot of people think they are cool just because they can switch time signatures in the middle of a song, for christ sake, METALLICA do that, and they arent even heavy.... i suggest getting onto better bands such as Soilwork, Pantera or Opeth, and if you want a laugh listen to System of a Down, they have pretty good lyrics, i think they were stoned to write most of there songs though, anyway cya


There are better bands than opeth, pantera, soad, and soilwork, so what is your point?

It is all subjective, so what you think is best, might not be same for 10 millions of other people. OK?

Anyways, check out my plague vid. They took shots from resident evil, which was a pretty good movie. Second one sucked balls though. lol

http://www.youtube.com/w/MY-PLAGUE?v=IBlONGb1vuA&search=slipknot%20my%20plague

Back to the thread. I've uploaded another rendition of Slipknot's Vermillion 2. This one IMO is absolutely amazing.. blows the original out of the water in its contrast, timing, mood, balance of heavy/soft verses. Definitely the best song I've heard in 2006 so far.

http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15V84778PTQZ60WU021EGGWP74

Enjoy

Did they actually make that or was that remixed by someone else? I like original better since it has nice acoustic guitars.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
01-11-2006, 10:53 PM
Awesome video never seen it before so thanks and love the song to

Reality of Pain
01-12-2006, 02:07 PM
Top 20 songs?
Hell! I don't even know 20 slipknot songs!

anyway; Duality, Heretic anthem, (sic), Spit it out and liberate are good! and i mean GOOD!!

PepsiMetal
01-12-2006, 02:13 PM
My Plague, Wait and bleed, Eyeless, The Nameless, Before I forget, etc. are all good as well.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
01-12-2006, 02:18 PM
Left Behind
People=****
Duality
Three Nil
Before I forget
The Shape
My Plague
Sur Facing
Spit It Out
Wait And Bleed
Disasterpeice
I am Hated
Iowa
Pulse of the Maggots
cant think of anymore at the moment

purplefeet
01-12-2006, 03:21 PM
I dont listen to them at all really anymore. When I did my favorite songs were probably Eeyore + (sic) + Sur Facing + one more.. i cant remember the name.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
01-12-2006, 03:39 PM
i think more peple should listen to slipknot there a great band dont know why they get dissed so much

PepsiMetal
01-12-2006, 03:51 PM
They get dissed cause lots of their fans are childish and always say slipknot are best band, joey is best drummer, mick is best guitarist, corey is best singer, etc... In reality, it's all subjective, so saying one person is best or greatest as a fact is false as that's impossible because it's subjective. And since slipknot has many fans, most people start hating the band for the fans. Same thing is with metallica, and few other bands.

I'm Charming
01-12-2006, 04:02 PM
i think more peple should listen to slipknot there a great band dont know why they get dissed so much


They are one of the best nu metal bands..... But honestly I don't think they are a "great" band... A good listen, sometimes... Yes.... Great band, no.


They get made fun of because they have alot of really dumb fanboys/fangirls.

They refer to their fans as the larva of flies... That's lovely...

All in all.... They are enjoyable in small/medium amounts.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
01-12-2006, 04:08 PM
yeah i dont listen to them that much but there still good and shouldnt get dissed and i know what your saying about there fans saying that joey is the greatest drummer and so forth but still

Slipknotz_M
01-12-2006, 05:07 PM
Opium of the People
The Nameless
Slipknot
Tattered and Torn
Duality
Eyeless
Three Nil
Iowa
Disasterpiece
(sic)
Do Nothing/Bitchslap
Pulse Of The Maggots
Spit It Out
People = Sh**
Wail And Bleed
The Heretic Anthem
Vermillion
Eeyore
Drum Solo = 9.0:Live

PapaSmurfed
01-15-2006, 12:50 AM
dont most people bash nu-metal

Yeah... I saw this just now and just wanted to comment on it. Yeah people bash on Nu-Metal and all, but it's really nothing to be bashed on. If you look up Nu-Metal, it's just a type of genre of Metal in which the bass parts are the main focus, the lyrics are usually sung in a rapping style, and the guitar isn't the main part in the songs. This is why most do not like Nu-Metal or consider it to be 'true metal' because most Nu-Metal does not involve a wide range of guitar solos or solos at all, which other Metal genres do include. So really, this genre of music shouldn't be bashed like it normally is, it is just another sense of music that should be appreciated by others. I don't know, that's just my opinion on this.

Sleeper
01-15-2006, 01:43 AM
I hate the term Nu-Metal.

I'm Charming
01-15-2006, 02:19 AM
Yeah... I saw this just now and just wanted to comment on it. Yeah people bash on Nu-Metal and all, but it's really nothing to be bashed on. If you look up Nu-Metal, it's just a type of genre of Metal in which the bass parts are the main focus, the lyrics are usually sung in a rapping style, and the guitar isn't the main part in the songs. This is why most do not like Nu-Metal or consider it to be 'true metal' because most Nu-Metal does not involve a wide range of guitar solos or solos at all, which other Metal genres do include. So really, this genre of music shouldn't be bashed like it normally is, it is just another sense of music that should be appreciated by others. I don't know, that's just my opinion on this.

You just made my case of why it's awful.

Britney Diva
01-15-2006, 02:33 AM
Yeah... I saw this just now and just wanted to comment on it. Yeah people bash on Nu-Metal and all, but it's really nothing to be bashed on. If you look up Nu-Metal, it's just a type of genre of Metal in which the bass parts are the main focus, the lyrics are usually sung in a rapping style, and the guitar isn't the main part in the songs. This is why most do not like Nu-Metal or consider it to be 'true metal' because most Nu-Metal does not involve a wide range of guitar solos or solos at all, which other Metal genres do include. So really, this genre of music shouldn't be bashed like it normally is, it is just another sense of music that should be appreciated by others. I don't know, that's just my opinion on this.
I think it's more accurate to define nu-metal by its influences rather than trying to pinpoint an actual "sound." I don't know whether the bass parts are the main focus in nu-metal; I think the riffs are definitely very low, that may be what you mean. You're right about hip-hop, but it's not a rule by any means, but nu-metal is still, first and foremost, metal. When a lot of very heavy metal bands became popular at one time, people tried to put them all into one category and cited the low-tunings, the fusion of metal and grunge, the hip-hop beats and half-rapped vocals of some bands. Nu-metal is a mixed bag, and you have to be pretty general to put System of a Down, the Deftones, Korn and Slipknot in the same genre.

Leukeh
01-15-2006, 06:24 AM
i think more peple should listen to slipknot there a great band dont know why they get dissed so much

They get dissed so much because they are one of the forefront bands of nu-metal. Alot of people just have a general disliking towards nu-metal, and use Slipknot as an example of everything bad. They also hate the idea of wearing masks.

And their fanatical fans also turn people off. I must admit, their fans overrate them a bit, but they are a great band.

ValeOfShadows
01-15-2006, 06:45 AM
Mudvayne is and always will be my most favourite Nu-Metal band always. But ive decided not to bash other Nu-Metal bands just because i dont like the genre.e.g Korn, Slipknot and SOAD.

Sph
01-15-2006, 06:45 AM
The term Nu-metal is too generic. Slipknot and Linkin Park can not be placed in the same genre. Also, System Of A Down should really be called progressive metal, shouldn't they?

ValeOfShadows
01-15-2006, 06:49 AM
I dont think Linkin Park is Metal. Whats so metal about them. They rap. And tune to drop D but so do a thousand other bands that arent metal. Oh and yes new SOAD = (crap)Prog Metal

Sph
01-15-2006, 06:53 AM
Most SOAD = (good) Prog metal. That's my opinion, as subjective as it may be. And Linkin Park are classified as metal, unfortunately.

I also (IMO) don't think Slipknot are nu-metal.

ValeOfShadows
01-15-2006, 06:58 AM
Oh i definately think that Slipknot are Nu-Metal. They fit the genre perfectly. Sorry about the SOAD comment i just dont like them anymore.

Sph
01-15-2006, 07:03 AM
How do they fit the genre perfectly? They do a bit of rap in some songs but that's the only similarity I can see.

ValeOfShadows
01-15-2006, 07:18 AM
No like there riffing and song structure.And lyrics. And guitar tunings. And vocals. Nu-Metal isnt rapping.

Sph
01-15-2006, 07:28 AM
Nu-metal usually involves rapping. I admit, Slipknot are similar to nu-metal, but not quite. They're just metal, in fact if you look at their riffing and song structure, it only strengthens my point. The riffs, solos and drums are far too complex too be considered nu-metal.

ValeOfShadows
01-15-2006, 07:37 AM
I agree about drums. But if we go into riffing then it also takes Mudvayne out of the genre for drumming too! Mudvayne has more complex structure than Slipknot will ever have!

Sph
01-15-2006, 07:56 AM
I agree about drums. But if we go into riffing then it also takes Mudvayne out of the genre for drumming too! Mudvayne has more complex structure than Slipknot will ever have!
I always found Mudvayne rather simple and mundane.

You play drums I guess.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 02:35 AM
yeh i do. But you must admit they are more complex than Slipknot after all they do get called Math Metal.

PepsiMetal
01-22-2006, 02:40 AM
I think Slipknot are nu-metal. Mainly because no solos/short solos, simple riffs, and a DJ, which nu-metal bands like limp bizkit have.

Still, nu-metal should be broken up, Limp Bizkit and Slipknot sound totally different, mainly because of Joey's Drumming and Corey's rapping.

yeh i do. But you must admit they are more complex than Slipknot after all they do get called Math Metal.

Yea their drumming seems more diverse, but slipknot's has some nice speedy double bass action. Actually I don't know who'se more complex, slipknot's seems more to me. :confused: I suck at this.

I'm Charming
01-22-2006, 02:46 AM
FTW.

SOAD are devoid of any talent and are nu metal.

end/

They are NOT prog metal.

prog metal = Dream Theater and Into Eternity, etc.

Opeth is prog metal/prog death metal.

Other then Slipknot and Mudvayne... nu metal is to be forgotten.

PepsiMetal
01-22-2006, 02:48 AM
I like soad alot better than slipknot and mudvayne combined. Their music is more diverse and every album shows different stuff. Well kind of.

Riva
01-22-2006, 02:48 AM
The term Nu-metal is too generic. Slipknot and Linkin Park can not be placed in the same genre. Also, System Of A Down should really be called progressive metal, shouldn't they?

Why is SOAD progressive metal? They repeatedly reuse musical elements.

FTW.

SOAD are devoid of any talent and are nu metal.

end/

They are NOT prog metal.

prog metal = Dream Theater and Into Eternity, etc.

Opeth is prog metal/prog death metal.

Other then Slipknot and Mudvayne... nu metal is to be forgotten.

SOAD have more talent than Slipknot, I think. And Deftones are a far better band in terms of sound and talent.

PepsiMetal
01-22-2006, 02:50 AM
I'd rather classify them speed metal than prog metal. But they have some elements from nu-metal also, so speedy nu-metal. ;)

SOAD have more talent than Slipknot, I think.

Yea I think so too except drummers seem kinda equal. One is faster, while other one comes up with better and more effective beats.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 02:55 AM
I like soad alot better than slipknot and mudvayne combined. Their music is more diverse and every album shows different stuff. Well kind of.

Ssaying that both Sli8pknot and Mudvayne have evolved into different sounds.

PepsiMetal
01-22-2006, 03:01 AM
Yea but they've all stayed heavy while soad has come up with many power balads, and have used greek-type riffs plus they don't sound as raw as they did on first album. Most slipknot's songs sound very similar. And I'm not as familiar with mudvayne's discography, but what I have heard wasn't much different than slipknot except their music is alot less distorted.

Sph
01-22-2006, 03:01 AM
Why is SOAD progressive metal? They repeatedly reuse musical elements.
What would you class them as? They may not be prog metal but they're certainly not nu-metal.

guitrguy
01-22-2006, 03:04 AM
What would you class them as? They may not be prog metal but they're certainly not nu-metal.
Oh they are definatly nu-metal. Nu-metal is vast genre. They do nothing that would make them progressive.

SOAD doesn't sound like Slipknot who doesn't sound like the Deftones who doesn't sound like Mudvayne, but they are all nu-metal.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 03:06 AM
Yeh they are definately numetal. Its the closest genre to them.

I'm Charming
01-22-2006, 03:12 AM
Oh they are definatly nu-metal. Nu-metal is vast genre. They do nothing that would make them progressive.

SOAD doesn't sound like Slipknot who doesn't sound like the Deftones who doesn't sound like Mudvayne, but they are all nu-metal.

Thanks for setting the record straight. :thumb:

Sph
01-22-2006, 03:15 AM
But alot of bands who are classed as nu-metal aren't even metal! Nu-metal is too vast. How the hell can Slipknot, SOAD, and Linki Park be in the same genre?

I'm Charming
01-22-2006, 03:19 AM
But alot of bands who are classed as nu-metal aren't even metal! Nu-metal is too vast. How the hell can Slipknot, SOAD, and Linki Park be in the same genre?

Good point there.

Slipknot could be rap metal or towards that.. Sorta like RATM except way less talented.

Linkin park I guess could be hip hop or cloes to it.

SOAD is just worthless, lol. alt rock sorta in the category of chevelle and breaking benjamin or staind?

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 03:26 AM
I dont classify linkin Park as metal simple as that.

Sph
01-22-2006, 03:27 AM
SOAD doesn't sound like Slipknot who doesn't sound like the Deftones who doesn't sound like Mudvayne, but they are all nu-metal.
If they aren't similar at all, they can't be in the same genre.

A category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, marked by a distinctive style, form, or content
Nu-metal defeats the purpose of being a genre.
Good point there.

Slipknot could be rap metal or towards that.. Sorta like RATM except way less talented.
They don't use rap that much. I'd just call them metal.

Linkin park I guess could be hip hop or cloes to it.
Agreed.

SOAD is just worthless, lol. alt rock sorta in the category of chevelle and breaking benjamin or staind?
I like SOAD, but they're hard to classify. They have alot of different styles and influences in their music.

Riva
01-22-2006, 03:35 AM
Nu-metal is a wave, or movement, like NWOBHM. Compare Def Leppard to Iron Maiden, for instance. It isn't a genre, per se.

I'm Charming
01-22-2006, 03:50 AM
Nu-metal is a wave, or movement, like NWOBHM. Compare Def Leppard to Iron Maiden, for instance. It isn't a genre, per se.


We had grunge, then nu metal and now pop punk is the "trendy" type of music.

By the "nu metal" time I mean.

Back when limp bizkit was so popular and such.

Sph
01-22-2006, 03:56 AM
If it's a movement, that brings up an interesting question. When will it end? Has it ended? Alot of bands classed as 'Nu-metal' today are completely different than nu-metal bands ten years ago. Maybe it has finished?

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 03:57 AM
^^And Metalcore.

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 05:13 AM
Ok, I know you guys arn't very keen on the bashing of bands... BUT THIS IS ****ING SLIPKNOT! YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS!!! ASIDE FROM THE DRUMMER, THIS IS ONE OF THE LEAST TECHNICAL LEAST TALENTED BANDS OUT THERE!!! When I was in my Nu Metal phase they were cool, but that was years ago.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 05:29 AM
^^Thats great. Thanx for your insight.:rolleyes: You just joined the 500 other people that came in here just to bash them.

Sph
01-22-2006, 05:31 AM
Yep, thanks for contributing the sensible discussion. Your words will have deep meaning, i'm sure.

Leukeh
01-22-2006, 05:32 AM
Ok, I know you guys arn't very keen on the bashing of bands... BUT THIS IS ****ING SLIPKNOT! YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS!!! ASIDE FROM THE DRUMMER, THIS IS ONE OF THE LEAST TECHNICAL LEAST TALENTED BANDS OUT THERE!!! When I was in my Nu Metal phase they were cool, but that was years ago.

**** you. So you don't like Slipknot? Get out of the damn thread then. And stay out. So they're not that technical - who said it has to be technical? Simplicity is fine. And they can be technical, it's just they don't need to be to please their fans. They are obviously talented - if they wern't how did they get a ****ing record deal, and reach platinum at least once with all of their albums? Just because you don't like them, it doesn't mean nobody else should, and those who do are retards. You are the retard for not accepting others opinions. Get the **** out.

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 05:32 AM
500 peoples enough to get this thread taken off the site. I personally think Slipknot should be one of the site's banned words.:smash:

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 05:34 AM
He was asking for that one. You dont come into this thread just to bash them.

Leukeh
01-22-2006, 05:36 AM
500 peoples enough to get this thread taken off the site. I personally think Slipknot should be one of the site's banned words.:smash:

I said get out. In fact, I said get the **** out. Now get the **** out.

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 05:36 AM
**** you. So you don't like Slipknot? Get out of the damn thread then. And stay out. So they're not that technical - who said it has to be technical? Simplicity is fine. And they can be technical, it's just they don't need to be to please their fans. They are obviously talented - if they wern't how did they get a ****ing record deal, and reach platinum at least once with all of their albums? Just because you don't like them, it doesn't mean nobody else should, and those who do are retards. You are the retard for not accepting others opinions. Get the **** out.

That is the most fallacious argument ever. Is Ashley Simpson talented? No, then how did she get even greater commercial success? Is Slipknot better than say Testament, or Napalm Death, Arch Enemy, or less popular bands, simply because they sell better? Absolutely not. In fact, I argue because they tone down aand play such simple ****, tjhey are only more accesible to a widescale audience who can't appreciate good music.

Even if I thought Slipknot was slightly enjjoyable, there are thousands of bands who are simply so much better out there, they arn't even worth my time.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 05:38 AM
^^If they arent worth your time why are you in here talking about them. **** off.

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 05:40 AM
^^If they arent worth your time why are you in here talking about them. **** off.

Perhaps I'm trying to enlighten others on what good metal is? Why do you ****ers get so uptight about people coming down on your bands. Try to defend them or something, but don't just say "get the **** out" thats retarded.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 05:42 AM
I personally dont really like this band but i've learnt that it isnt fair to say to people that their taste in music is wrong because they dont listen to what i listen to.

Leukeh
01-22-2006, 05:43 AM
That is the most fallacious argument ever. Is Ashley Simpson talented? No, then how did she get even greater commercial success? Is Slipknot better than say Testament, or Napalm Death, Arch Enemy, or less popular bands, simply because they sell better? Absolutely not. In fact, I argue because they tone down aand play such simple ****, tjhey are only more accesible to a widescale audience who can't appreciate good music.

Even if I thought Slipknot was slightly enjjoyable, there are thousands of bands who are simply so much better out there, they arn't even worth my time.

Hey. Dumb ****. Ashley Simpson can sing. If she couldn't, then how did she ever become successful? Sure, Slipknot may play easier stuff that the bands you mentioned, but that doesn't mean they suck. They are an awesome band. You can't get to be as well known and popular as they are by sitting on your *** doing **** all. They make music. Good music. I don't care if you like it or not, just stop bagging them out. The quality of music depends on opinion. I like them, you don't. Don't be a fag about it. Just stay out of the damn thread and don't be so pig headed.

Sph
01-22-2006, 05:44 AM
That is the most fallacious argument ever. Is Ashley Simpson talented? No, then how did she get even greater commercial success? Is Slipknot better than say Testament, or Napalm Death, Arch Enemy, or less popular bands, simply because they sell better? Absolutely not. In fact, I argue because they tone down aand play such simple ****, tjhey are only more accesible to a widescale audience who can't appreciate good music.

Even if I thought Slipknot was slightly enjjoyable, there are thousands of bands who are simply so much better out there, they arn't even worth my time.
It's called a ****ing opinion! If you don't like them then get the **** out of the thread! What you're doing is a bannable offense, leave now.

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 05:50 AM
Hey. Dumb ****. Ashley Simpson can sing. If she couldn't, then how did she ever become successful? Sure, Slipknot may play easier stuff that the bands you mentioned, but that doesn't mean they suck. They are an awesome band. You can't get to be as well known and popular as they are by sitting on your *** doing **** all. They make music. Good music. I don't care if you like it or not, just stop bagging them out. The quality of music depends on opinion. I like them, you don't. Don't be a fag about it. Just stay out of the damn thread and don't be so pig headed.

Ashley Simpson Lip Sychnng innacurately on Saturday Night Live is a testaament to how talentless she is.

Oh damn straight you can. http://www.nintendorks.com/brandon/archives/000475.php

I'm jjust trying to tell people, listen to some new bands. DOn't be sold on this one band becaause it's the best thing you know of. Check out Carcass, Morbid Angel, Deicide, Vader, Bathory, Testament, Napalm Death, and other bands not as popular but so mjuch more proficient than Slipknot, before commiting yourself to become there loyal searvant.

I was a Slipknot fan too, but then I simply found BETTER music. And I want people to experience that change too. The difference is I have exposure to both Death Metal and Nu Metal. Most Nu Metal fans have not the slightest knowledge of Death Metal.

Sph
01-22-2006, 05:57 AM
I'm jjust trying to tell people, listen to some new bands. DOn't be sold on this one band becaause it's the best thing you know of. Check out Carcass, Morbid Angel, Deicide, Vader, Bathory, Testament, Napalm Death, and other bands not as popular but so mjuch more proficient than Slipknot, before commiting yourself to become there loyal searvant.
I like all those bands you listed as well as Slipknot. You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger Testament fan around here.

Leukeh
01-22-2006, 05:57 AM
Ashley Simpson Lip Sychnng innacurately on Saturday Night Live is a testaament to how talentless she is.

Oh damn straight you can. http://www.nintendorks.com/brandon/archives/000475.php

I'm jjust trying to tell people, listen to some new bands. DOn't be sold on this one band becaause it's the best thing you know of. Check out Carcass, Morbid Angel, Deicide, Vader, Bathory, Testament, Napalm Death, and other bands not as popular but so mjuch more proficient than Slipknot, before commiting yourself to become there loyal searvant.

I was a Slipknot fan too, but then I simply found BETTER music. And I want people to experience that change too. The difference is I have exposure to both Death Metal and Nu Metal. Most Nu Metal fans have not the slightest knowledge of Death Metal.

Hey ****tard. Grow a ****ing dick. Where the hell did you get the idea that we listen to Slipknot and ONLY Slipknot. Go **** yourself man. I listen to most of the bands you just mentioned. And a hell of alot more. Iron Maiden, Marilyn Manson, Dimmu Borgir, Rage Against The Machine, Dragonforce - you name it, I'll listen to it if it sounds good. I, along with most others, don't give a **** if what a band plays is easy or hard or whatever, if it sounds good, listen to it. We have different opinions on what sounds good (obviously) so how about you go listen to what you think sounds good, and I'll listen to what I think sounds good. But leave this thread before you get banned.

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 05:59 AM
I like all those bands you listed as well as Slipknot. You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger Testament fan around here.

But do you like Slipknot though?

And Even if you do, all my friends who like them wouldn't have which is my point. The Majority of Slipknot fans in my opinion, only know bands that are accesible to them on Fuse and MTV2 and I find that really unfortunate.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 06:01 AM
Ashley Simpson Lip Sychnng innacurately on Saturday Night Live is a testaament to how talentless she is.

Oh damn straight you can. http://www.nintendorks.com/brandon/archives/000475.php

I'm jjust trying to tell people, listen to some new bands. DOn't be sold on this one band becaause it's the best thing you know of. Check out Carcass, Morbid Angel, Deicide, Vader, Bathory, Testament, Napalm Death, and other bands not as popular but so mjuch more proficient than Slipknot, before commiting yourself to become there loyal searvant.

I was a Slipknot fan too, but then I simply found BETTER music. And I want people to experience that change too. The difference is I have exposure to both Death Metal and Nu Metal. Most Nu Metal fans have not the slightest knowledge of Death Metal.

:rolleyes:Just because people post in a Slipknot thread doesnt mean thats all they listen to. Im listening to Nile right now and both Leukah and KingJay listen to a wide variety of music. Dont be so close minded.

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 06:02 AM
Hey ****tard. Grow a ****ing dick. Where the hell did you get the idea that we listen to Slipknot and ONLY Slipknot. Go **** yourself man. I listen to most of the bands you just mentioned. And a hell of alot more. Iron Maiden, Marilyn Manson, Dimmu Borgir, Rage Against The Machine, Dragonforce - you name it, I'll listen to it if it sounds good. I, along with most others, don't give a **** if what a band plays is easy or hard or whatever, if it sounds good, listen to it. We have different opinions on what sounds good (obviously) so how about you go listen to what you think sounds good, and I'll listen to what I think sounds good. But leave this thread before you get banned.
THIS IS MY POINT!!! SAVE MAIDEN, THE REST OF THOSE BANDS ARE WATERED DOWN VERSIONS OF THERE FOUNDING GENRE'S THAT YOU ONLY KNOW BECAUSE THEY'RE AAT OZZFEST. MILLIONS OF BETTER BLACK METAL BANDS THAN DIMMU BORGIR, MILLIONS OF BETTER BANDS THAN MARILYN MANSON. My point is you only like them because they are easy to access for you.

Why the hell would they ban me? Thats retarded. I'm being less bannable than you are. I'm not calling anyone a dickless fag or childish **** like that.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 06:02 AM
But do you like Slipknot though?

And Even if you do, all my friends who like them wouldn't have which is my point. The Majority of Slipknot fans in my opinion, only know bands that are accesible to them on Fuse and MTV2 and I find that really unfortunate.

So then give reccomend other music dont parade around telling people to stop listening to Slipknot because there are other bands out there.

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 06:05 AM
I wrote a reply that made some suggestions already. it should be on the previous page.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 06:06 AM
Read my post again.

Sph
01-22-2006, 06:12 AM
Why the hell would they ban me? Thats retarded. I'm being less bannable than you are. I'm not calling anyone a dickless fag or childish **** like that.
Why would they ban you? Read the ****ing rules next time!

Don’t create a thread to bash a band. Don’t go into an established thread and mindlessly flame anyone in it/bash the band.

Leukeh
01-22-2006, 06:15 AM
THIS IS MY POINT!!! SAVE MAIDEN, THE REST OF THOSE BANDS ARE WATERED DOWN VERSIONS OF THERE FOUNDING GENRE'S THAT YOU ONLY KNOW BECAUSE THEY'RE AAT OZZFEST. MILLIONS OF BETTER BLACK METAL BANDS THAN DIMMU BORGIR, MILLIONS OF BETTER BANDS THAN MARILYN MANSON. My point is you only like them because they are easy to access for you.

Why the hell would they ban me? Thats retarded. I'm being less bannable than you are. I'm not calling anyone a dickless fag or childish **** like that.

OK heres me: Never been to Ozzfest, never even seen a lineup. Don't get MTV2 or any of that ****.

I never said Dimmu Borgir was the only black metal band I listen to. They were a band that came to my head. So what? BETTER is only in your opinion. What is BETTER in my opinion will most definitely be different to what is BETTER in your opinion. I can listen to what I like, and I should be able to listen to it without ****s like you trying to stop me, just because I have a different opinion on things. The "easy access" thing is complete and total bullshit. They don't play metal on the radio around here. Metal is never on T.V. - I have to go looking for these bands. You mentioned Carcass before. It just so happens I'm listening to them right now.

Grow up and stop being a dick to people who have different opinions. The world would suck hard if everybody had the same opinions. Especially if they were the same as yours.

And you would be the one getting banned, not I, or anyone else, because you are being the childish one and bagging out a band and intentionally starting an argument.

I've said it a few times now.

GET THE **** OUT

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 06:18 AM
"Don’t create a thread to bash a band. Don’t go into an established thread and mindlessly flame anyone in it/bash the band."

Well I certainly I didn't do a mindless job and certaintly provided reasons.

And WTF is wrong with starting a totally reasonable debate on music? I didn't just make a one liner response "slipknot sucks" I'm making arguments here.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 06:18 AM
OK heres me: Never been to Ozzfest, never even seen a lineup. Don't get MTV2 or any of that ****.

I never said Dimmu Borgir was the only black metal band I listen to. They were a band that came to my head. So what? BETTER is only in your opinion. What is BETTER in my opinion will most definitely be different to what is BETTER in your opinion. I can listen to what I like, and I should be able to listen to it without ****s like you trying to stop me, just because I have a different opinion on things. The "easy access" thing is complete and total bullshit. They don't play metal on the radio around here. Metal is never on T.V. - I have to go looking for these bands. You mentioned Carcass before. It just so happens I'm listening to them right now.

Grow up and stop being a dick to people who have different opinions. The world would suck hard if everybody had the same opinions. Especially if they were the same as yours.

And you would be the one getting banned, not I, or anyone else, because you are being the childish one and bagging out a band and intentionally starting an argument.

I've said it a few times now.

GET THE **** OUT


Hes right here in Australia Metal is one of the least accessable genres so dont give me that "easy access ****.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 06:19 AM
"Don’t create a thread to bash a band. Don’t go into an established thread and mindlessly flame anyone in it/bash the band."

Well I certainly I didn't do a mindless job and certaintly provided reasons.

YOU NOT LIKING THEM IS NOT A REASON.

Sph
01-22-2006, 06:21 AM
"Don’t create a thread to bash a band. Don’t go into an established thread and mindlessly flame anyone in it/bash the band."

Well I certainly I didn't do a mindless job and certaintly provided reasons.

And WTF is wrong with starting a totally reasonable debate on music? I didn't just make a one liner response "slipknot sucks" I'm making arguments here.
You sir, are truly an idiot.

Ok, I know you guys arn't very keen on the bashing of bands... BUT THIS IS ****ING SLIPKNOT! YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS!!! ASIDE FROM THE DRUMMER, THIS IS ONE OF THE LEAST TECHNICAL LEAST TALENTED BANDS OUT THERE!!! When I was in my Nu Metal phase they were cool, but that was years ago.
You call that reasonable?

Leukeh
01-22-2006, 06:22 AM
YOU NOT LIKING THEM IS NOT A REASON.

Agreed. And neither is "My opinion is greater than yours. Believe me when I say Slipknot is talentless. You shouldn't like them because there are so many other better bands."

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 06:28 AM
Fine you know what, I'm gonna leave you guys with one more parting gift, and then I'm gone for good.

http://bloodthirsty.free.fr/Morbid_Angel_-_Gateways_to_Annihilation_-_Ageless_Still_I_Am.mp3

Something you won't find on Slipknot.... GUITAR SOLOS!!! Goodbye.

Leukeh
01-22-2006, 06:30 AM
Fine you know what, I'm gonna leave you guys with one more parting gift, and then I'm gone for good.

http://bloodthirsty.free.fr/Morbid_Angel_-_Gateways_to_Annihilation_-_Ageless_Still_I_Am.mp3

Something you won't find on Slipknot.... GUITAR SOLOS!!! Goodbye.

Ever listened to Vermillion? Pulse of the Maggots? Opium of the People? Apparently not.

Sph
01-22-2006, 06:32 AM
Fine you know what, I'm gonna leave you guys with one more parting gift, and then I'm gone for good.

http://bloodthirsty.free.fr/Morbid_Angel_-_Gateways_to_Annihilation_-_Ageless_Still_I_Am.mp3

Something you won't find on Slipknot.... GUITAR SOLOS!!! Goodbye.
You honestly have no idea, do you? Who cares as long as you ****ing gone!

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 06:33 AM
I have Slipknot and Iowa, and I don't think there is one solo on either of those albums. Oh you can bet I am so eager to hear a Slipknot guitar solo. I'm sure it will totally kick SOADs *** :rolleyes:

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 06:35 AM
Fine you know what, I'm gonna leave you guys with one more parting gift, and then I'm gone for good.

http://bloodthirsty.free.fr/Morbid_Angel_-_Gateways_to_Annihilation_-_Ageless_Still_I_Am.mp3

Something you won't find on Slipknot.... GUITAR SOLOS!!! Goodbye.

Thats great i have that album now dont tell us what and what not to listen my mum doesnt and neither should you.

Leukeh
01-22-2006, 06:35 AM
I have Slipknot and Iowa, and I don't think there is one solo on either of those albums. Oh you can bet I am so eager to hear a Slipknot guitar solo. I'm sure it will totally kick SOADs *** :rolleyes:
No your right, there isn't any guitar solos on those albums. They've only recently been putting them in songs. But they're good.

EDIT: Guitar solos are not what makes a band great. Now leave.

Bartender
01-22-2006, 06:37 AM
I have Slipknot and Iowa..

You should perhaps note, then, that they have more than two albums.

Sph
01-22-2006, 06:37 AM
I have Slipknot and Iowa, and I don't think there is one solo on either of those albums. Oh you can bet I am so eager to hear a Slipknot guitar solo. I'm sure it will totally kick SOADs *** :rolleyes:
Why is a song with a guitar solo immediately superior to a song without one?

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 06:37 AM
I'm not very enthused and I REFUSE to buy that album, but if I can find a free download I'll check them out. I have low expectations though.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 06:37 AM
I have Slipknot and Iowa, and I don't think there is one solo on either of those albums. Oh you can bet I am so eager to hear a Slipknot guitar solo. I'm sure it will totally kick SOADs *** :rolleyes:

Actually mick and Jim Root solo better than Darron. Darron is crap. Have you heard him live. He made BYOB easier and still screwed it up.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 06:38 AM
I'm not very enthused and I REFUSE to buy that album, but if I can find a free download I'll check them out. I have low expectations though.

Listen to before i forget. Great song without a solo (i think).

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 06:40 AM
OH YOU BET I AGREE WITH YOU THERE. He writes some of the most pointless basic solo's I've ever seen. I'm a natural bass player and it took my like 2 minutes to learn his Peephole solo. (Daron)

But I certainly woujldn't call Slipknot's guitarists much better. SOAD at least has the balls to solo once in a while. I didn't even know Slipknot decided to attempt a solo until now.

Leukeh
01-22-2006, 06:40 AM
Actually mick and whatevertheotherguitaristsnameis solo better than Darron. Darron is crap. Have you heard him live. He made BYOB easier and still screwed it up.

James/Jim Root.

Porcupine F*cker - don't post again. You are not wanted, and you have already stated you are leaving.

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 06:41 AM
This is true, ok, lets see if I can keep my word this time.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 06:42 AM
OH YOU BET I AGREE WITH YOU THERE. He writes some of the most pointless basic solo's I've ever seen. I'm a natural bass player and it took my like 2 minutes to learn his Peephole solo. (Daron)

But I certainly woujldn't call Slipknot's guitarists much better. SOAD at least has the balls to solo once in a while. I didn't even know Slipknot decided to attempt a solo until now.

Why solo if it doesnt fit what your trying to do.

Sph
01-22-2006, 06:45 AM
This is true, ok, lets see if I can keep my word this time.
Good. You've already proved your ignorance and stupidity. MX could do with less people like you.

Hourglass
01-22-2006, 06:46 AM
well when they do attempt to do a solo it kicks ***

Porcupine_F*cker
01-22-2006, 06:46 AM
Good. You've already proved your ignorance and stupidity. MX could do with less people like you.

You know I was just about to walk away, then that childish comment led me back.

Now you've put me in a continuous journey to persuade you to WHY SLIPKNOT AND ALL NU METAL FOR THAT MATTER SUCKS MAJOR DONKEY DICK!!!

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 06:48 AM
You know I was just about to walk away, then that childish comment led me back.

Now you've put me in a continue to persuade you to WHY SLIPKNOT AND ALL NU METAL FOR THAT MATTER SUCKS MAJOR DONKEY DICK!!!

Oh and that wasnt childish you stupid hypocrite.

Sph
01-22-2006, 06:52 AM
You know I was just about to walk away, then that childish comment led me back.
Stating your opinions as fact just makes you look like an idiot.

Now you've put me in a continue to persuade you to WHY SLIPKNOT AND ALL NU METAL FOR THAT MATTER SUCKS MAJOR DONKEY DICK!!!
And you call me childish

Leukeh
01-22-2006, 06:55 AM
You know I was just about to walk away, then that childish comment led me back.

Now you've put me in a continuous journey to persuade you to WHY SLIPKNOT AND ALL NU METAL FOR THAT MATTER SUCKS MAJOR DONKEY DICK!!!

Get. Out.




Now.

Drunken Viking
01-22-2006, 11:59 AM
Ashley Simpson Lip Sychnng innacurately on Saturday Night Live is a testaament to how talentless she is.
You do realize that because she can't preform live doesn't take away the fact that the can sing, if you listen to her cd then you would be able to tell. I have seen countless times where the lead singer of bands don't preform great, like I got a bootleg of Mudvayne a while back and Chad sounded terrible, but he is still a great singer.[/QUOTE]

Oh damn straight you can. http://www.nintendorks.com/brandon/archives/000475.php

I'm jjust trying to tell people, listen to some new bands. DOn't be sold on this one band becaause it's the best thing you know of. Check out Carcass, Morbid Angel, Deicide, Vader, Bathory, Testament, Napalm Death, and other bands not as popular but so mjuch more proficient than Slipknot, before commiting yourself to become there loyal searvant.
It's all opinion whether you think a band is better or not, and also, Carcass Morbid Angel and Napalm Death are very popular, you would have a hard time finding a metalhead on these boards who hasn't heard of two out of three of those bands.

I was a Slipknot fan too, but then I simply found BETTER music. And I want people to experience that change too. The difference is I have exposure to both Death Metal and Nu Metal. Most Nu Metal fans have not the slightest knowledge of Death Metal.
I know very much about Death Metal, I listen to many Death Metal bands on a regular basis.

Huber
01-22-2006, 12:43 PM
We can easily pretty much say this Porcupine guy doesn't realize that members of MX are real music fans, not elitists.

Who's lovin' 9.0 live? /raises hand

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
01-22-2006, 12:44 PM
When is another album comeing out? Because i know there takeing a break but would it be later this year or maybe next year?

Huber
01-22-2006, 12:45 PM
When is another album comeing out? Because i know there takeing a break but would it be later this year or maybe next year?

I'd say at least 3 years.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
01-22-2006, 12:49 PM
Thats a long time

Lord_Hypnos
01-22-2006, 12:51 PM
I'd say it'l be awile till the next album comes out but I prefer it when bands do that.It gives them more time to evolve musically instead of releasing the exact same album right after one another.

Besides isn't Corey doing something with Stone Sour again soon?

MRDuCran
01-22-2006, 12:52 PM
Give it a chance woman, they've only just finshed touring the lastest stuff.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
01-22-2006, 01:02 PM
I'd say it'l be awile till the next album comes out but I prefer it when bands do that.It gives them more time to evolve musically instead of releasing the exact same album right after one another.

Besides isn't Corey doing something with Stone Sour again soon?


Yeah i think thats the main reason there takeing a break

Leukeh
01-22-2006, 05:03 PM
I'd say it'l be awile till the next album comes out but I prefer it when bands do that.It gives them more time to evolve musically instead of releasing the exact same album right after one another.

Besides isn't Corey doing something with Stone Sour again soon?
Yeah - and James

Joey might do some more MuderDolls stuff I think. That'd be cool.

We can easily pretty much say this Porcupine guy doesn't realize that members of MX are real music fans, not elitists.

Who's lovin' 9.0 live? /raises hand

:wave:

Porcupine F*cker got banned. Thanks to Bartender I think.

Aaron_Of_Oz
01-22-2006, 05:51 PM
That's good to hear he is banned. Some people have nothing better to do than argue on internet forums.

As for Slipknot releasing another album, I think that would be great:thumb: , but as has already been said, it's not gonna happen for quite a while.

I'm Charming
01-22-2006, 07:51 PM
Thank god he got banned. I was waiting for that.

\hats off to bartender


He was doing that flaming in other threads to, just not as much.


Slipknot isn't my fav band, I point out their flaws as well as their good sides.

There should be a trial time for membership.

2 weeks, if you pass... Your membership becomes perm.

my sticks are on fire
01-22-2006, 08:40 PM
has any one here ever tryed playing any slipknot stuff on drumset?

my sticks are on fire
01-22-2006, 08:41 PM
i have tryed playing certain parts but i cant quite get all the parts down

PepsiMetal
01-22-2006, 08:42 PM
Yea but they could just ask ok during those 2 weeks, and become idiots after that. Bannage works better.

Anyways,
I don't see new slipknot album coming out any time soon considering corey has said he's working on new stonesour album.

i have tryed playing certain parts but i cant quite get all the parts down

You need to have some good double bass speed to play most of joey's beats since that's what he uses most of the time. I'm not a drummer, but that's what it sounds like it's most important in slipknot's beats.

I'm Charming
01-22-2006, 09:20 PM
Yea but they could just ask ok during those 2 weeks, and become idiots after that. Bannage works better.

Anyways,
I don't see new slipknot album coming out any time soon considering corey has said he's working on new stonesour album.



You need to have some good double bass speed to play most of joey's beats since that's what he uses most of the time. I'm not a drummer, but that's what it sounds like it's most important in slipknot's beats.

I guess another thought would be,

Limit the number of posts with new accounts. Per Day.

Hammerheart
01-22-2006, 09:33 PM
Let the Hammer Fall!

Drunken Viking
01-22-2006, 10:02 PM
Yes, Hammerfall is a good band.

And about the new album, I think Corey is gonna have to wait a while to do anything, his voice on 9.0 was lacking.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 10:12 PM
has any one here ever tryed playing any slipknot stuff on drumset?

i think i tried to learn People = ****. It wasnt that hard just really fast. I only learned one bit though cause im not really a Slipknot fan anymore.

BishopGuitarist
01-22-2006, 10:14 PM
Hey Vale a while ago you were sharin Goodbye by Mudvayne and sent it but I didn't get the email before it expired on YSI.. Any chance I could get it? My AIM is BishopGuitarist, or my email is guitarist@mad.scientist.com. I'd appreciate it heaps.

ValeOfShadows
01-22-2006, 10:17 PM
hang on ill give it a go.

EDIT Its sending now so i hope it works.

I'm Charming
01-26-2006, 12:26 AM
I dl "Disasterpieces" DVD. It's pretty sweet except coreys voice is majorly lacking in most of it. He just doesn't have a great live voice.

The band and crowd show amazing energy though and joeys drum solo is pretty cool.

Drunken Viking
01-26-2006, 12:28 AM
Whenever I've heard Corey preform live it always has sounded like **** to me, it must suck in the studio trying to record them.

I'm Charming
01-26-2006, 12:44 AM
Whenever I've heard Corey preform live it always has sounded like **** to me, it must suck in the studio trying to record them.

They must have to track it and overlay lap it to death.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
02-03-2006, 11:22 PM
From what ive heard of him live i think he does really good

Huber
02-04-2006, 12:56 AM
Sometimes Corey tries to hard and these high pitched uncontrolled screams come out that sound terrible. The more raspy kind of voice though is spot on sometimes. I just think he's got some work to do with his voice ever since he lost what he had on Iowa.

o0o_tylor_o0o
02-04-2006, 11:09 PM
I don't know if this has been talked about or whatever, but I'm stating what I think...

Slipknot are the band I hate the most out of all bands. I have many good reasons.

Lack of Talent/Originality -

I don't think Slipknot are talented at all. I've heard people say "ooo, Mick really shreds". Go listen to some Jason Becker or something, and then try to tell me Mick can shred. I've looked at numerous Slipknot tabs and they all digust me. So many people also so Joey is really good at drums. I'm a drummer, and I hear nothing special from him. In fact I don't even think he's that great or original with his drumming. Also, there's the lyrics and song meanings. Most of Slipknot's songs are about depression and suicide, typical nu-metal style. It makes me sick

The Whole 9 Member Thing -

This actually makes me laugh. I find it really funny how Slipknot can have 9 members and play as poorly as they do. I can think of countless bands that sound better than slipknot and play with 5, 4 or even 3 members. I don't get why they need two percussionists, they don't add anything to the music. I saw Duality live on Leno and one of them hit a garbage can. Now that's talent. The whole sampler and DJ thing is stupid too. Jordan Rudess from Dream Theater does all of their samples and plays the keyboard like a god at the same time. Slipknot could have two members and be just about as good. I make better music by myself than Slipknot does with 9 people.


Bad Influence -

Slipknot is typical whiny nu-metal. They are making kids more "depressed" then they already were by making them think life is so hard. I see tons of Slipknot fans that are all dressed in black with chains and spikes and make up. Goth kids make me angry. Suck it up and get a life. Listen to some real metal.

Gimmick -

The MASKS. Wow, you don't want to be recognized in public, big deal. Pay the price for being famous. Maybe if they get rid of those silly costumes they can make some good music while they are at it.

Anyway, I don't want to go on much longer, the fact is Slipknot is bad for you.

ok first off, not talented? go listen to vermillion pt. 2, circle, or any stone sour and tell me Corey cant sing.im not really into that melodic stuff but its still proof that he can sing! joey is awesome at drums, i dont care what you say. but you're right about one thing, Mick makes me want to puke, anyone who says he's good needs to take a look at some slipknot tabs. there is absolutely no talent involved there.
It may not be technical, BUT IT STILL SOUNDS GOOD!

How can they not be original? i've never seen or heard any band like them before. they're pretty much the only nu-metal band i like.

If you're influenced by the lyrics of songs then you're an idiot. IT'S MUSIC. they're not a band you should take to heart. some things do make a point and give you something to consider, but its not something you should live your life by. its just something to bang your head to, and slipknot provides it.

The masks aren't something to hide behind. they do it to draw attention and to be heard. and they put their music first, BEFORE the masks and costumes.

im not crazy about slipknot and dont consider myself a big fan im just giving credit where it needs to be givin. they ARE a good band.

oh and i agree with you on the goth thing

PepsiMetal
02-05-2006, 12:42 AM
When did MbMDrumMachine post that message? I didn't see it on last 2 pages. Shouldn't have replied to it man.

But I agree with you on most of those points.

Huber
02-05-2006, 12:45 AM
Some of the guys points are true, but they don't bother me so much to make me want to not listen.

However, just because Jason Becker is a better guitarist doesn't make Mick Thompson a bad one.

I'd also say a percussion section is original. Yeah, it's irrelevant sometimes, but I think that there's some songs that just would not have the same drive without it. The tribal idea for some of the songs was really pushed with the percussionists and made it work.

Calling the masks a gimmick is a little unfair. You do not know whether they put them on in the first place to gain more fans or not. But I bet I do that they were thinking it'd be more entertaining, and make things a little different then a bunch of normal looking metal heads headbanging like almost any other metal band.

edit: Just realized his post wasn't recent. Oops.

PepsiMetal
02-05-2006, 12:47 AM
Funny thing I read on some message board about 2 years ago. People were discussing slipknot and they thought slipknot had like 200+ members who toured at different times and that's why they wear masks.

Heh

comptonassrobert
02-05-2006, 12:53 AM
I like slipknot, as they were one of my gateway-metal bands. And although I hardly listen them anymore due to the 500+ new cds from different artists in the past years, I'll still pop in their S/T from time to time because I think it was a solid album. Prosthetics is an amazing song.

:)

Sleeper
02-05-2006, 01:15 AM
Yes, Slipknot is a band that opened the door to other types of metal and music for me. I'm not as big of fan as i used to be, but they will always be a favorite of mine.

Drunken Viking
02-05-2006, 01:23 AM
I know this was an old message but I have to get some things off my chest.

Lack of Talent/Originality -

I don't think Slipknot are talented at all. I've heard people say "ooo, Mick really shreds". Go listen to some Jason Becker or something, and then try to tell me Mick can shred. I've looked at numerous Slipknot tabs and they all digust me. So many people also so Joey is really good at drums. I'm a drummer, and I hear nothing special from him. In fact I don't even think he's that great or original with his drumming. Also, there's the lyrics and song meanings. Most of Slipknot's songs are about depression and suicide, typical nu-metal style. It makes me sick
What do you mean not original? How many bands can you name have a drumming section, not just a drummer? The fact that Jason Becker can play his instrument better doesn't mean Mick sucks, just because John Myung is a better bassist then Ryan Martinie does that make him suck? NO! I rarely hear anyone say that Joey is amazing at drums, Almost everyone I know who is educated thinks that he is nothing special, and everyone on these boards thinks the same. And about the lyric thing, just because they talk about what they feel doesn't make them bad lyricists, it just makes you think that, but you and everyone are different people.


The Whole 9 Member Thing -

This actually makes me laugh. I find it really funny how Slipknot can have 9 members and play as poorly as they do. I can think of countless bands that sound better than slipknot and play with 5, 4 or even 3 members. I don't get why they need two percussionists, they don't add anything to the music. I saw Duality live on Leno and one of them hit a garbage can. Now that's talent. The whole sampler and DJ thing is stupid too. Jordan Rudess from Dream Theater does all of their samples and plays the keyboard like a god at the same time. Slipknot could have two members and be just about as good. I make better music by myself than Slipknot does with 9 people.

I don't think there is a number nine in the group, I think the numbers stop at 8, but anyway every single member of Slipknot does his part, Clown the DJ and the other percusionest do their part, they help keep the beat in some songs, deliver backing vocals, and they get the crowd going at gigs. The band needs to feed off something live, and they just help. I highly dought that you can make better music then them, you proably can't scream or sing, and if you can you proably aren't profiecient at gutiar, drums, vocals, bass, lyrics.

Bad Influence -

Slipknot is typical whiny nu-metal. They are making kids more "depressed" then they already were by making them think life is so hard. I see tons of Slipknot fans that are all dressed in black with chains and spikes and make up. Goth kids make me angry. Suck it up and get a life. Listen to some real metal.Just because people want to dress in black or whatever doesn't mean they are goth. I wear black shirts and jeans almost every day and I am not goth. What don't you take your own advice and suck it up and learn to accept people for who they are, not what they wear. And I'm sure most of those kids listen to all types of metal, I listen to Black Metal, Death Metal, Grindcore, Rock, and Slipknot.

Gimmick -

The MASKS. Wow, you don't want to be recognized in public, big deal. Pay the price for being famous. Maybe if they get rid of those silly costumes they can make some good music while they are at it.

Anyway, I don't want to go on much longer, the fact is Slipknot is bad for you.Yeah, cause we all know that the masks is what's making them all not up to your level of "real metal". The reason that Slipknot wears masks is because they feel that it should about the music, not about being recognized. And you saying Slipknot is bad for you is crap, just because you don't like them cause your to hardcore for them doesn't mean everyone is, lets face it your the kinda kid who only listens to brutal death metal and raw black metal.

Crysiss
02-05-2006, 02:42 AM
Why you bringing up the mudvayne bassist man? lol

Drunken Viking
02-05-2006, 03:10 PM
To make a point that because one guitarist is better then another doesn't mean the one that isn't as good sucks.

Crysiss
02-05-2006, 07:58 PM
Oh i see, I thought that you were trying to refer to the slipknot bassist.

Drunken Viking
02-05-2006, 11:10 PM
Nope, he made a point that because Jason Becker was better then Mick meant that Mick sucked, so I brought up that Myung is more talented then Martinie but that doesn't neccesarily mean that Martinie sucks to combat that.

Moses
02-05-2006, 11:32 PM
Myung sounds like computer graphics.

Drunken Viking
02-05-2006, 11:43 PM
Is that bad or good?

Moses
02-06-2006, 12:36 AM
I don't know.

ghettoeddo
02-06-2006, 12:41 AM
oh it's good.
it's GOOOOD.

Drunken Viking
02-06-2006, 12:44 AM
I just thought of something, graphics don't make sounds, do they?

Moses
02-06-2006, 12:45 AM
I just thought of something, graphics don't make sounds, do they?
Nope. But if I had to compare it to one thing, that's what it would sound like.

Drunken Viking
02-06-2006, 12:50 AM
Ahh I see, I can't really hear his bass most of the time though.

Anyone else think it's odd we're talking about computers and John Myung in a Slipknot thread?

ghettoeddo
02-06-2006, 02:06 AM
yea let's take it to the DT thread.

Leukeh
02-06-2006, 03:55 AM
I don't think there is a number nine in the group, I think the numbers stop at 8

I realize your all for Slipknot here, but I need to make a correction xD

The numbers do only reach 8, but they start at 0, to there is 9 of them =P

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Anyway, Slipknot was the band that got me into metal. they were all I listened to for ages, just because I loved them so much. They are still my number 1 band, but I listen to other stuff now as well. Any sub-genre of metal is fine with me.

And I love Coreys voice. Amazing singing and screaming on his part.

It seems to me that all anyone can think of to knock Slipknot is that they wear masks (as if that effects what they sound like), they are talentless (talentless people would't be able to get a record deal) or that they aren't technical (so go listen to your technical music if thats all you want to listen to - Slipknot could be technical if they wanted to, but they don't want to make technical music)

They make music that appeals to some, and not to others.


Slipknot - Either loved or hated, but never ignored.

Drunken Viking
02-06-2006, 04:46 PM
I realize your all for Slipknot here, but I need to make a correction xD

The numbers do only reach 8, but they start at 0, to there is 9 of them =P
I know that, I was just trying to be funney, didn't work out to well. Sarcasm doesn't translate to well into print ::rolleyes:

7stringsordeath
02-07-2006, 02:20 PM
I think bands like slipknot add a severely needed dose of creativity to the stagnant realm of metal....I try to appreciate bands being different...not this same ol' prepackaged "normal" metal fluff....Slipknot, rock on!

Dethroned-Emperror88
02-08-2006, 10:20 AM
ATTENTION ALL SLIPKNOT F A G G O T S

Slipknot... What a horrible horrible band. I mean not just from the standpoint that they suck balls musically but the fact that with each new album they get ****tier. Let me Explain:

Ok first off, there are 9 people in the band. Who the **** ever herd of 9 people in a ****ing band? Two drummers? and one who just bangs his head around for most of the time? Nobody is even a worthy musician I think they go by the "If we play loud and scream alot people wont realize we all suck" stance.

They have made three albums and havent advanced musically in any of them. They have still stayed the same screaming, ****ty band they have always been. The only thing close to musical talent in that band is the lead guitarist but still, any real metal guitarist could easily play any of there songs.

Second they are not respected by any of the metal community. I believe they have been around since the early 90's and there has never been a tribute or any one saying "I was really influenced by Slipknot" just a bunch of F A G G O T Nu Metal kids saying how metal they are. THEY ARE NOT ****ING METAL. They are complete ****. But since I am a nice person I will leave you with some examples of good solid metal:

Burzum- Burzum/Aske (EP)
Mayhem- Deathcrush
DarkThrone- A blaze in the Northern Sky
Bathory- Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Abigor- Supreme Immortal Art
Graveland-Celtic Winter

Enjoy.

TemperamentalGoat
02-08-2006, 06:12 PM
Median age of people posting in this thread: 14

christ. No one cares about your black metal bands anyway. Stop listening to music because you think it's "cool" or "hardcore", listen to what you like. There is merit to Slipknot, strange but true. They aren't revolutionary or highly respectable; far from it. They just write decent songs here and there and there is no reason to toss that aside because the "metal community" disrespects them.

Anyway, does anyone still want to hear the re-tooling of Vermillion 2 on the underworld OST? I'll upload it again if anyone wants. It's consistently always been on my playlist for the past few weeks, it's just one hell of an improvement over the original. The instrumentals and loud/soft dynamics are, well, epic.

Sph
02-09-2006, 05:24 AM
THEY ARE NOT ****ING METAL.
I actually somewhat respected your opinion, despite calling the majority of this threads posters 'faggots', until I read this. If you do not have the mental capacity to accept the fact that Slipknot are metal, then take your ****ed up logic elsewhere.
Burzum- Burzum/Aske (EP)
Mayhem- Deathcrush
DarkThrone- A blaze in the Northern Sky
Bathory- Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Abigor- Supreme Immortal Art
Graveland-Celtic Winter
I find humorous that Slipknot haters always attempt to 'educate' us on 'real' metal bands. Why the **** do you assume we don't already listen to those bands? I, and i'm sure I speak for many other Slipknot fans, love Burzum, Mayhem and Bathory.

If you dislike Slipknot gtfo of the thread. Pretty simple, huh?

Anyway, does anyone still want to hear the re-tooling of Vermillion 2 on the underworld OST? I'll upload it again if anyone wants. It's consistently always been on my playlist for the past few weeks, it's just one hell of an improvement over the original. The instrumentals and loud/soft dynamics are, well, epic.
I'd love to hear it, if it's not too much trouble.

boneseekr@gmail.com

Leukeh
02-09-2006, 06:23 AM
Nice work Josh :lol:
Although, you forgot to point out to this douche, that Slipknot has made 5 albums, not 3. Maybe he should get his basic facts right before stating his unwelcome opinion. Also, maybe he should get a life, instead of pissing people off by insulting bands people like. And he should also get his head out of his arse.

TempermentalGoat: Yes please =) leukeh@gmail.com

Sph
02-09-2006, 06:40 AM
Welcome to the party. :p

Also...
They have still stayed the same screaming, ****ty band they have always been.
Corey doesn't always scream. He does actually have a nice singing voice. Not perfect, but effective.

vocman
02-09-2006, 06:54 AM
Slipknot has made 5 albums, not 3. Maybe he should get his basic facts right before stating his unwelcome opinion. Also, maybe he should get a life, instead of pissing people off by insulting bands people like. And he should also get his head out of his arse.


I know of mate feed kill repeat, S/T, Iowa and Vol 3, but what is the fifth?

I don't listen to slipknot very often anymore, but, like a lot of posters here, Slipknot got me into 'heavier','extremer' music, and that is IMO the main reason why bands like slipknot should exist; without gateway-bands Metal can be a bit inaccessible, I think.

Sph
02-09-2006, 07:14 AM
9.0: Live was released not long ago.

I don't listen to Slipknot much either, these days. :-\

UpperDecker
02-09-2006, 07:29 AM
[QUOTE=Huber]
Calling the masks a gimmick is a little unfair. You do not know whether they put them on in the first place to gain more fans or not. But I bet I do that they were thinking it'd be more entertaining, and make things a little different then a bunch of normal looking metal heads headbanging like almost any other metal band.QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure they put the masks on to copy off of Mushroomheads idea. Alot of the masks were even similar to Mushroomheads masks when they first started.

Huber
02-09-2006, 08:44 AM
ATTENTION ALL SLIPKNOT F A G G O T S

Slipknot... What a horrible horrible band. I mean not just from the standpoint that they suck balls musically but the fact that with each new album they get ****tier. Let me Explain:

Ok first off, there are 9 people in the band. Who the **** ever herd of 9 people in a ****ing band? Two drummers? and one who just bangs his head around for most of the time? Nobody is even a worthy musician I think they go by the "If we play loud and scream alot people wont realize we all suck" stance.

They have made three albums and havent advanced musically in any of them. They have still stayed the same screaming, ****ty band they have always been. The only thing close to musical talent in that band is the lead guitarist but still, any real metal guitarist could easily play any of there songs.

Second they are not respected by any of the metal community. I believe they have been around since the early 90's and there has never been a tribute or any one saying "I was really influenced by Slipknot" just a bunch of F A G G O T Nu Metal kids saying how metal they are. THEY ARE NOT ****ING METAL. They are complete ****. But since I am a nice person I will leave you with some examples of good solid metal:

Burzum- Burzum/Aske (EP)
Mayhem- Deathcrush
DarkThrone- A blaze in the Northern Sky
Bathory- Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Abigor- Supreme Immortal Art
Graveland-Celtic Winter

Enjoy.

Everyone like you should die. I own everyone of those albums except the Graveland one. Don't act like your something special because you don't like Slipknot.

Drunken Viking
02-09-2006, 04:38 PM
Oh but he is, he is the first guy I've ever heard say he disliked Slipknot and started to bash them because they have 9 people and scream, his dick must be like massive or something.

A_Guy
02-09-2006, 06:56 PM
ATTENTION ALL SLIPKNOT F A G G O T S

Slipknot... What a horrible horrible band. I mean not just from the standpoint that they suck balls musically but the fact that with each new album they get ****tier. Let me Explain:

Ok first off, there are 9 people in the band. Who the **** ever herd of 9 people in a ****ing band? Two drummers? and one who just bangs his head around for most of the time? Nobody is even a worthy musician I think they go by the "If we play loud and scream alot people wont realize we all suck" stance.

They have made three albums and havent advanced musically in any of them. They have still stayed the same screaming, ****ty band they have always been. The only thing close to musical talent in that band is the lead guitarist but still, any real metal guitarist could easily play any of there songs.

Second they are not respected by any of the metal community. I believe they have been around since the early 90's and there has never been a tribute or any one saying "I was really influenced by Slipknot" just a bunch of F A G G O T Nu Metal kids saying how metal they are. THEY ARE NOT ****ING METAL. They are complete ****. But since I am a nice person I will leave you with some examples of good solid metal:

Burzum- Burzum/Aske (EP)
Mayhem- Deathcrush
DarkThrone- A blaze in the Northern Sky
Bathory- Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Abigor- Supreme Immortal Art
Graveland-Celtic Winter

Enjoy.
You know, I don't like Sipknot myself, but that was just dumb. Music is subjective, it's opinion. There is no "good" or "bad" music. I don't see why having alot of people in band is a bad thing, in fact, it seems a good way to make new interesting sounds. Also, about not being respected in the metal community, who cares? Nobody should listen to music just because other people do. Please grow up.

Banshee
02-09-2006, 07:31 PM
Joey Jordison is a bad drummer.

Huber
02-09-2006, 08:03 PM
Joey Jordison is a bad drummer.


False.

He is talented. If you deny that then you are just blindly saying so because you're scared your cool points will go down. He's definetly outdone by other drumming giants these days, but that doesn't mean he is bad.

Drunken Viking
02-09-2006, 11:05 PM
Just because he isn't the best drummer in the world doesn't make him bad, I think he is an excellent drummer, but I just like his style.

Aaron_Of_Oz
02-09-2006, 11:17 PM
Haha great work Josh. You show those noobs.

PepsiMetal
02-10-2006, 12:12 AM
It was quite obvious from his post that Dethroned-Emperror88 is a retard there was no need to reply to his posts anyways. Fools like him should be ignored.

Ve Das
02-10-2006, 09:19 AM
I actually somewhat respected your opinion, despite calling the majority of this threads posters 'faggots', until I read this. If you do not have the mental capacity to accept the fact that Slipknot are metal, then take your ****ed up logic elsewhere.


No,they´re not. They´re crossover. Apart from that,yeah, I actually enjoy some Slipknot and don´t really feel the need to prove the same FACT over and over again.

Overall, nice job on flaming that poser, but you fücked it up bigtime when you posted the above.

mutant!
02-10-2006, 09:26 AM
Burzum- Burzum/Aske (EP)
Mayhem- Deathcrush
DarkThrone- A blaze in the Northern Sky
Bathory- Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Abigor- Supreme Immortal Art
Graveland-Celtic Winter
I only recently (in fact, earlier this week) heard Slipknot's music for the first time. Even though their detuned guitar riffs and double bass drumming are a clichè that my bassist and I enjoy laughing at (along with other clichès from every other genre), I actually enjoyed their music after listening to it. They really do have talent and are better than many modern semi-mainstream metal/heavy bands.

Anyway, so, random Slipknot basher dude, I'm surprised at how you can tune Slipknot like that, and then in the same breath tell us how awesomely talented a bunch of LotR fanboys in black spandex playing Celtic music on axe-shaped plastic guitars are, when they sing of the Dragonlord Rognar and his fearsome army of half-trolls. Grow up.

Ve Das
02-10-2006, 09:40 AM
Quorthon was a million times more talented than ANY member of Slipknot. It´s not only technical skill I´m talking about here, but compositional. As for Varg, he was insane, but in his twisted psyche lies an amazing artist.

Hmmm, Darkthrone, Mayhem and Graveland: Yeah, they suck now but back in the day they ruled supreme. Too bad they didn´t keep up to quality and are now releasing either mediocre or just plain shítty records.

Thing is: Don´t bash my music, random black-metal-bashing imbecile and I´ll refrain from bashing yours.
(you know that it WAS extremely stupid posting something like that right after I did,right?Cause I´m bound to look in and see how me compadre Kingjay replied...)

mutant!
02-10-2006, 09:55 AM
Thing is: Don´t bash my music, random black-metal-bashing imbecile and I´ll refrain from bashing yours.
I was making a point, ie you can bash any genre of music because every genre of music contains stupid clichès, sell-outs who become famous, and wannabes. I don't really have anything against black metal (or whatever it is, I admit I don't know), I was just having a go at Dethroned-Emperror88 with all his Slipknot-bashing.

I don't even like Slipknot that much, they're just more interesting than Dope or Deftones (to me).

EDIT: "Random Slipknot basher dude" refers to Dethroned-Emperror88, not you.

Ve Das
02-10-2006, 10:19 AM
I know, but you could´ve edited out the Bathory. Let the dead be dead.

mutant!
02-10-2006, 10:42 AM
I don't even know any of those bands, I was just taking a stab in the dark. No hard feelings, k? :thumb:

Sleeper
02-10-2006, 03:08 PM
ATTENTION ALL SLIPKNOT F A G G O T S

Slipknot... What a horrible horrible band. I mean not just from the standpoint that they suck balls musically but the fact that with each new album they get ****tier. Let me Explain:

Ok first off, there are 9 people in the band. Who the **** ever herd of 9 people in a ****ing band? Two drummers? and one who just bangs his head around for most of the time? Nobody is even a worthy musician I think they go by the "If we play loud and scream alot people wont realize we all suck" stance.

They have made three albums and havent advanced musically in any of them. They have still stayed the same screaming, ****ty band they have always been. The only thing close to musical talent in that band is the lead guitarist but still, any real metal guitarist could easily play any of there songs.

Second they are not respected by any of the metal community. I believe they have been around since the early 90's and there has never been a tribute or any one saying "I was really influenced by Slipknot" just a bunch of F A G G O T Nu Metal kids saying how metal they are. THEY ARE NOT ****ING METAL. They are complete ****. But since I am a nice person I will leave you with some examples of good solid metal:

Burzum- Burzum/Aske (EP)
Mayhem- Deathcrush
DarkThrone- A blaze in the Northern Sky
Bathory- Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Abigor- Supreme Immortal Art
Graveland-Celtic Winter

Enjoy.


Your so metal? You have failed to read the rules, enjoy your stay at MX. It won't be long...

Ve Das
02-10-2006, 04:29 PM
I don't even know any of those bands, I was just taking a stab in the dark. No hard feelings, k? :thumb:

K. Quick tip: NEVER slam LotR, it makes you look really bad, especially if there´s an english teacher/major reading the thread who might decide to call you on it...

Use D&D instead ;-)

Britney Diva
02-10-2006, 04:44 PM
Lots of English teachers hate Tolkein. ;)

skinnypuppy
02-10-2006, 06:14 PM
The thing about slipknot for me is; their music isnt exactly bad, its just forgettable. ill listen to them for a day or two, and not care to listen to their music again for two or three months. Point aside, the b-side "get this" is amazing, and I add it to a lot of loud mix cd's I make.

Tillius
02-10-2006, 06:47 PM
ATTENTION ALL SLIPKNOT F A G G O T S

Slipknot... What a horrible horrible band. I mean not just from the standpoint that they suck balls musically but the fact that with each new album they get ****tier. Let me Explain:

Ok first off, there are 9 people in the band. Who the **** ever herd of 9 people in a ****ing band? Two drummers? and one who just bangs his head around for most of the time? Nobody is even a worthy musician I think they go by the "If we play loud and scream alot people wont realize we all suck" stance.

They have made three albums and havent advanced musically in any of them. They have still stayed the same screaming, ****ty band they have always been. The only thing close to musical talent in that band is the lead guitarist but still, any real metal guitarist could easily play any of there songs.

Second they are not respected by any of the metal community. I believe they have been around since the early 90's and there has never been a tribute or any one saying "I was really influenced by Slipknot" just a bunch of F A G G O T Nu Metal kids saying how metal they are. THEY ARE NOT ****ING METAL. They are complete ****. But since I am a nice person I will leave you with some examples of good solid metal:

Burzum- Burzum/Aske (EP)
Mayhem- Deathcrush
DarkThrone- A blaze in the Northern Sky
Bathory- Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Abigor- Supreme Immortal Art
Graveland-Celtic Winter

Enjoy.
First of all, I own or have listened to all of those albums, and they are not that great. I've actually heard quite a few bands say Slipknot influenced them, so get your facts straight.
Also, if you want to get technical, they have produced five albums(one un-released, so even saying four would be semi-accurate)
Thirdly, Slipknot is one of the biggest bands out there right now. No, not always the most popular, but definitely one of the biggest.
Also, how can you say that they aren't respected by the metal community? Please, I beg of you, tell me how you can say this?
Also, there is MUCH musical talent in that band. While not the greatest, Mick is one good guitarist, Corey is GREAT with both his screaming AND singing, Sid does great with the backup effects, and Joey Jordison is an incredible drummer.

So, you wanna talk about faggots? Why don't you try looking back through this thread a bit and realize that you sound just like any other moron who comes in here bashing Slipknot, and you fail at trying to make it look like you have a decent reason to say they suck.

^Dream~Theater^
02-10-2006, 07:18 PM
False.

He is talented. If you deny that then you are just blindly saying so because you're scared your cool points will go down. He's definetly outdone by other drumming giants these days, but that doesn't mean he is bad.

Have you seen his drum solo? Where he cant keep time and keeps messing up? LOL, ya man he's really good. Slipknot on the self titled Cd was very unique, I expected great things from them, and then they release 2 more cd's that mostly sound the same imo, And on SV they add like 2 guitar solo's in that seem forced, like they had to prove to people that they can actually do it which seems kinda sad if it is true.

badtaste
02-10-2006, 08:24 PM
So anyone see Slipknot at the Grammies (apologies if this has been mentioned already)?

The guys looked pretty funny.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood
02-10-2006, 09:39 PM
no! i wanted to see them the first year i odnt watch,they win i was so mad at myself, i wish i couldve seen it :-(

Drunken Viking
02-11-2006, 01:08 AM
Have you seen his drum solo? Where he cant keep time and keeps messing up? LOL, ya man he's really good. Slipknot on the self titled Cd was very unique, I expected great things from them, and then they release 2 more cd's that mostly sound the same imo, And on SV they add like 2 guitar solo's in that seem forced, like they had to prove to people that they can actually do it which seems kinda sad if it is true.
I think that Vol. 3 and Iowa are very different but that's just me, and the solo's don't sound forced, they had been trying to put them in since the beginning but their producer didn't like guitar solo's.

Aaron_Of_Oz
02-11-2006, 03:10 AM
I reckon everyone bashes Slipknot because they think they are too "mainstream" and don't even bother listening to the music.

Excursions
02-11-2006, 03:15 AM
Has anyone heard the original band named Slipknot? They were a hardcore band back in the mid to late 80s. Not too bad stuff.

Leukeh
02-11-2006, 05:08 AM
Has anyone heard the original band named Slipknot? They were a hardcore band back in the mid to late 80s. Not too bad stuff.


Umm... what? An explanation would be good =P I have no idea wtf you're talking about!

Ve Das
02-11-2006, 07:49 AM
Lots of English teachers hate Tolkein. ;)

They´re just jealous because they never managed one of the best translations and papers on Beowolf in existence...

Excursions
02-11-2006, 03:58 PM
Umm... what? An explanation would be good =P I have no idea wtf you're talking about!

You can download an album here (http://www.7inchpunk.com/?p=110). Pretty much just a band that has the sam name as Slipknot but were earlier. I just wondered if anyone had heard of them.

Drunken Viking
03-01-2006, 10:38 PM
So yeah to bump this thread.

When did you guys start liking Slipknot? I started liking them right after Vol. 3 came out and my brother started listening to it a lot, I liked Duality and tried the rest of the CD and it was great.

I'm Charming
03-01-2006, 11:15 PM
So yeah to bump this thread.

When did you guys start liking Slipknot? I started liking them right after Vol. 3 came out and my brother started listening to it a lot, I liked Duality and tried the rest of the CD and it was great.


I used to like ST and Iowa. Then I picked up Vol: 3 and really liked it and still do. I dl MFKR(the one before corey) and it was great. Some neat jazz breaks and interesting hip hop style vocals.

Iowa is worthless IMO.

Vol: 3 is great.

ST is ehh.

MFKR is great.

Drunken Viking
03-01-2006, 11:16 PM
I haven't given MFKR to much of a listen, a few minutes here or there but nothing to huge.

I'm Charming
03-01-2006, 11:18 PM
I haven't given MFKR to much of a listen, a few minutes here or there but nothing to huge.

Give it one. Listen all the way through. It's solid.

Magero666
03-07-2006, 06:08 AM