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[Kage]

Yow.

[Invicta_Veritas]

You can't just pick and choose which bits of the 'family friendly' policy you want to go with, though. Or rather, you can, but you won't get any attention paid to you.



Whichever way we go - enforcing the rules rigorously or not - you all complain, which leaves little enough motivation to do either. I'll enforce the rules a lot more rigorously if you want. With retroactive banning, even?


I've just always thought (and most people I know agree with me) that racism is far more offensive and such than everyday loose profanity. Just my opinion, man.



I was just pointing out that until Vince cleaned up the RMOTM thread, there had been very little attention paid to extreme trolling/spam such as Eliminator, Dargon, Totenkrieg, etc. Virtually all conflict and bullshit in R&M lately has somehow involved those three users, and we were simply discussing what could/couldn't be done about it and similar situations.

Don't turn it around on me just because you don't necessarily agree with what I'm saying. I've been trying to be intelligent and reasonable with my contribution to the discussion. But since it's appearing to ruffle everyone's feathers, I guess I'll leave it alone.

[Ghosts Revenge]

ok, mods - its me again (repcak aka Ghosts Revenge aka kacper) - you know me.

one thing that i hated and still hate is neonazism/fascism.
we had this before. remember dylan? aka Test, Prince Charming, etc..

recently there have been some jewish posts and radical posts on these boards.
i watched away, but Stevies new avatar is annoying me. isn't this a family-friendly website? if yes, pls remove his "heil hitler". its nothing children shall see and learn.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Did you not notice the whole arguement that I just lost? Leave it alone, nobody cares I guess.

[Kage]

As much as I agree, you guys getting upset over it is just doing exactly what Stevie wants. So leave it alone. You're only adding fuel to the fire. He's only doing it to get a rise out of people. Just laugh it off as the bad joke it is.

[Stormrider]

I've just always thought (and most people I know agree with me) that racism is far more offensive and such than everyday loose profanity. Just my opinion, man.

By other family friendly subject, there's the drug talks for example. Drunk posting and all that drug talk is not very family friendly either, and you don't complain about that.

I think that's what Bartender meant by "You can't just pick and choose ..."

Sure some are more 'tolerable' then others but still. You can't whine about just one because it's the only one that personally offends you.

[Stevie II]

As much as I agree, you guys getting upset over it is just doing exactly what Stevie wants. So leave it alone. You're only adding fuel to the fire. He's only doing it to get a rise out of people. Just laugh it off as the bad joke it is.

exactly

[Stevie II]

wtf:


You have been banned for the following reason:
spam

Date the ban will be lifted: 07-05-2007, 09:00 PM



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:05 PM.

[Ghosts Revenge]

By other family friendly subject, there's the drug talks for example. Drunk posting and all that drug talk is not very family friendly either, and you don't complain about that.

I think that's what Bartender meant by "You can't just pick and choose ..."

Sure some are more 'tolerable' then others but still. You can't whine about just one because it's the only one that personally offends you.

i know... you're right;

one more thing.
the post i made in the Community thread:


i always hated skindheads and it seems you're one of those Nationasocialistic black metal idiots. i can't stand such ppl.

sorry, if i'm not nice to you... but i just can't in those cases.

could you pls remove your avatar... its annoys me... i don't know how you guys from the US are seeing the World War 2 etc, but i'm from europe and i have a lot of family members who suffered a lot, cause of hitler. and therefore i will please you to remove your avatar.

thanks!

[TojesDolan]

guys

[Bartender]

I've just always thought (and most people I know agree with me) that racism is far more offensive and such than everyday loose profanity. Just my opinion, man.

You're being inconsistent, is all I'm saying.

I was just pointing out that until Vince cleaned up the RMOTM thread, there had been very little attention paid to extreme trolling/spam such as Eliminator, Dargon, Totenkrieg, etc. Virtually all conflict and bullshit in R&M lately has somehow involved those three users, ...

And you.

[TojesDolan]

Wasn't that the same person?

6__9

[Invicta_Veritas]

But I rarely spam and I don't troll. Yes, conflict, but mainly because I don't agree with a lot of people about a lot of things.

[TojesDolan]

But argue elsewhere, like the lolmunnity thread.

[GenuineImitation]

Hahaha. Someone should supermod Wish because we could use him in R&M.

Or they could Mod someone else (hint, hint)

[TojesDolan]

You have enough with me.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Dude, they should make me mod for a day. That would be ****ing awesome.


But I'm too biased.

[Nostalgia]

Even though Wish has only been a mod for like a month, he controls the pit well and that place is ****.

[TojesDolan]

Ahem, I'm sorry but I paved the way to that point.

[Silenius]

Dude, they should make me mod for a day. That would be ****ing awesome.


But I'm too biased.

I'm sure there would be no-one left standing if you were a mod.


EDIT: Yeah, Riva IronFist keeps this place in check the best.

[TojesDolan]

Dude, shut the f‪uck up, Jelle gave me enough powers to help here.

If you want me to act rational and ban the cunts, I will but that means no more joking around, no more s‪hit, and of course, no more Dargon, or Kage, or Jake, or Wotan, or anyone laughing.

Just Rock and Metal discussion. Anything slightly Alternative or Independent or Punk or -Core will be moved to it's place.

Is that what you want?

[TojesDolan]

Dargon trolls people and brings no other conversation besides "wiggercore grrr ******core grrr Opreth grrr Multitrillionarire grrrr". If he recommended at least one decent thing he considers good there would be no ban.

Kage rofls a lot.

Jake laughs at me laughing of my mexicanity.

Wotan got a real life.

[Kage]

How'd I get dragged into this?

[Invicta_Veritas]

..and how did I manage to stay out of being included there.......

[TojesDolan]

I'm just trying to make mr. SilentScream here realize there's no need to go iffy about spam because I don't care about it, otherwise I'd have set the banhammer reign of terror and lols.

EDIT: I laugh at antisemitism because thinking of races is just idiotic. I mean...

I'm mexican and I don't care about all the crap I get!

[Invicta_Veritas]

EDIT: I laugh at antisemitism because thinking of races is just idiotic. I mean...

I'm mexican and I don't care about all the crap I get!

But still, some of us don't find it that funny, and are honestly offended when certain people get seriously blatant with it. And that doesn't mean you should let it slide.


I'm Jewish, and I do care about the **** I get.

[Kage]

Yeah well some people may be offended by all our talk of drunkeness and ****. You put up with the **** you don't like unless you want this place to become some kind of sterile politcally correct boring zone.

[Invicta_Veritas]

There's a certain line though that shouldn't be crossed. It may be fuzzy, but the general area is clear. You just don't demean somebody's faith or ethnicity.

[TojesDolan]

Well, excuse me; I think I was just used to mods actually following what their "rules" suggest.
Which rules are those, again?

Maybe, just maybe, I should stick to the "THE MOD IS ALWAYS RIGHT" rule, and fu‪cking practice the good ol' perma-ban for questioning my authority and ban-on-sight routine. That'd be nice. :)

BRA: Yeah well, I understand. I will try to make people not go to that touchy subject for you, but I can only try to be quite honest.

[TojesDolan]

SilentScream, the first thing you need to do here to get modded is sh‪utting the fu‪ck up, and posting normally and it will come to you, don't just like, pop the question to see if you get nominated.

[TojesDolan]

Yeah, me too.

Anyway, I don't even know why we're arguing here. :confused:

[3074326]

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I don't know how there's a debate about the use of forms of racism and prejudice. This place doesn't have to be politically correct, but we don't need racism and prejudice.

Being offended by the discussion of alcohol is much different than a form of racism.

Now to read the last page and see how the debate started. :p

[Invicta_Veritas]

I knew I wasn't completely retarded when I brought it up...

[Deathcrush II]

But still, some of us don't find it that funny, and are honestly offended when certain people get seriously blatant with it. And that doesn't mean you should let it slide.


I'm Jewish, and I do care about the **** I get.

Maybe not having an inverted pentagram as your previous avatar might have helped your case about "offending people". The "I'm Jewish" card is worthless; throw it away, you ****ing prick.

[Lunch]

Austin: Do you want Bartender to start kickin' *** and taking names, and enforce the rules like he used to?

[Invicta_Veritas]

Pentacle, not pentagram. It has a circle around it. And it has nothing to do with anything whatsoever. It symbolizes the 5 elements, and also symbolizes the 5 books of the Torah to Paganic Jews.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

There's a certain line though that shouldn't be crossed. It may be fuzzy, but the general area is clear. You just don't demean somebody's faith or ethnicity.


Will you cry more please you god damn liberal pussy.

Jesus Christ, this generation of people are all so annoying since they have to bark at any thing that will remotely "offend" anyone.

If you don't like it, then don't be on the internet since there is so much hate and hostility on it and you and your family oriented crusade will fail in this enviroment and will only cause people to rag on your more.

And also if you are not into bashing peoples faiths and such things, then why in the hell are you listening to death/black any form of metal for that matter?

It is very anti-christian and anti-jewish and such.

Also there has been and still is alot of christian bashing, but no one seems to complain about it. You can't have it both ways...

[Deathcrush II]

Pentacle, not pentagram. It has a circle around it. And it has nothing to do with anything whatsoever. It symbolizes the 5 elements, and also symbolizes the 5 books of the Torah to Paganic Jews.

That really, really offends me.

[Invicta_Veritas]

That really, really offends me.

What, that you can't even get the term right? **** you.

[TojesDolan]

Austin: Do you want Bartender to start kickin' *** and taking names, and enforce the rules like he used to?
I can do it too. Chris can do it too.

Damn, any mod mod who spends a minute here could reinforce rules as if they were tattooed in our butts.

But I don't do it because I like the forum the way it is. It keeps everything multi-cultural and of course, takes of the stigma of "METAL HEADS ONLY DISCUSS WHO LIKES THE GRIMEST MOST UNKNOWN METAL EVER GUR GUR".

[Deathcrush II]

Black metal fans using the word "Jew" in a derogatory manner tends to have nothing to do with racism, get it into your ****ing skulls already!

[Invicta_Veritas]

Will you cry more please you god damn liberal pussy.

..

I'm probably more conservative than you are.

Being anti-racist isn't liberal..there's a HUGE difference.


Besides, calling anybody a liberal is an insult from hell.

[3074326]

After reading...

This argument is exactly why racism shouldn't be allowed. I find it very odd that some seemed to be defending the use of forms of racism on the forums. Why? This is a forum dedicated to discussing Rock & Metal - there should be no reason for racism. You guys and gals are all far too intelligent for this to even be a concern.

This stuff only causes problems. Just don't do it. If you're doing it to get attention, you'll probably get banned for something else anyways.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Black metal fans using the word "Jew" in a derogatory manner tends to have nothing to do with racism, get it into your ****ing skulls already!

What if the Black metal fan is a Jew? Huh? What then?

[Deathcrush II]

What, that you can't even get the term right? **** you.

pen·ta·cle (pěn'tə-kəl)
n. A five-pointed star, often held to have magical or mystical significance, formed by five straight lines connecting the vertices of a pentagon and enclosing another pentagon in the completed figure. Also called pentagram.

Seriously stop trying to be correct about anything.

[TojesDolan]

OK then, a real moderator has spoken.

One racist comment and you're perma-banned.

Except with mexican jokes, because I am mexican and I allow them.

[Lunch]

I can do it too. Chris can do it too.

Damn, any mod mod who spends a minute here could reinforce rules as if they were tattooed in our butts.

But I don't do it because I like the forum the way it is. It keeps everything multi-cultural and of course, takes of the stigma of "METAL HEADS ONLY DISCUSS WHO LIKES THE GRIMEST MOST UNKNOWN METAL EVER GUR GUR".

I'm not question your mod powers, Toehaze. I'm just saying Tender has modding here forever and has always been there to enforce the rules as he sees fit (and done a great job), where as you are a relatively new addition.

[Deathcrush II]

After reading...

This argument is exactly why racism shouldn't be allowed. I find it very odd that some seemed to be defending the use of forms of racism on the forums. Why? This is a forum dedicated to discussing Rock & Metal - there should be no reason for racism. You guys and gals are all far too intelligent for this to even be a concern.

This stuff only causes problems. Just don't do it. If you're doing it to get attention, you'll probably get banned for something else anyways.

I agree that racism should be frowned upon on a forum like this, but I'd also like to point out that I have never been racist since my return.

For reference to my definition on the word "Jew", see a few pages back...

[Invicta_Veritas]

pen·ta·cle (pěn'tə-kəl)
n. A five-pointed star, often held to have magical or mystical significance, formed by five straight lines connecting the vertices of a pentagon and enclosing another pentagon in the completed figure. Also called pentagram.

Seriously stop trying to be correct about anything.

You can find any number of different definitions in any number of dictionaries. I once thought as you and some dolt pointed me to a different definition. It's pointless to argue over it anymore because everyone thinks they know what they're talking about and the definitions vary all across the internet and beyond. I'm done.

The definition I was referred to years ago stated the Pentagram was the star itself, a pentacle was enclosed. But Whatever.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

I'm probably more conservative than you are.

Being anti-racist isn't liberal..there's a HUGE difference.


Besides, calling anybody a liberal is an insult from hell.


I am not a conservative you idiot.

I hate the democratic/conservative/liberal/etc etc parties and I only reside my views in what I believe is right, not what a party of old farts think.

And being anti-racist is quite liberal, since liberals and such liberal groups like the ACLU are the ones that complain the most about it.

And also if you are a Jew listening to black metal, then obviously you have no idea what black metal is.

[3074326]

Black metal fans using the word "Jew" in a derogatory manner tends to have nothing to do with racism, get it into your skulls already!

How can the word "Jew" be used in a derogatory manner, yet not be involved with racism?

Give me an example so I understand what you're trying to say.

[TojesDolan]

I'm not question your mod powers, Toehaze. I'm just saying Tender has modding here forever and has always been there to enforce the rules as he sees fit (and done a great job), where as you are a relatively new addition.
Yeah, I know. I didn't consider it "questioning" my moderating abilities.

I prefer to listen to the users, and do what they feel is better for conversation in general, that's all. If people like to say a joke or two about jews, or chinese, or americans, or belgianese people it's OK, because it's almost like "I accept who you are you filthy minority", and that's what made this forum nicer up to now.

But if you guys think it's mean and wrong, then fine. It's mean and wrong. I don't like to set my standards on things, I prefer users to set their own liners and be mature about things. If you can't be mature at all, go to the Pit. Whatever.

[Deathcrush II]

You can find any number of different definitions in any number of dictionaries. I once thought as you and some dolt pointed me to a different definition. It's pointless to argue over it anymore because everyone thinks they know what they're talking about and the definitions vary all across the internet and beyond. I'm done.

No. Seriously, you're seriously stupid. Seriously.

I called your previous avatar a pentagram, and it was a pentagram. It was also a pentacle. Whatever attatchment to it, whatever meaning that particular symbol had is irrelevent.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Bobo:

Doesn't justify calling me liberal. I'm actually extremely conservative.

Besides the point, it's not whining (or liberal) to say that it's wrong to have blatant disregard for human being based on faith or skin color shoved in your face.

It's not that difficult of a ****ing concept.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Bobo:

Doesn't justify calling me liberal. I'm actually extremely conservative.

Besides the point, it's not whining to say that it's wrong to have blatant disregard for human being based on faith or skin color shoved in your face.

It's not that difficult of a ****ing concept.


God, it is hard to carry on an arguement with a mentally challenged person.

You are such a ****ing hypocrite it is not even funny.

[Kage]

The ****ing point is that you shouldn't let it get to you god damn it.

And consider the ****ing source. The people who are being racist are the biggest idiots on the forum.

Are you that ****ing insecure?

[Invicta_Veritas]

How am I a hypocrite? Please do explain.

Kage: No, I happen to stand up for what I believe is right, and I'm not going to let it go. I have no tolerance for racism. NONE.

[Deathcrush II]

How can the word "Jew" be used in a derogatory manner, yet not be involved with racism?

Give me an example so I understand what you're trying to say.

Well, would you call me racist using the word "Christian" in a derogatory manner?

Hint: I'm speaking in terms of relgious belief, not "race" as many American Jews like to cling on to.

Since any religion flies into the face of any other religion, any promotion of religious belief should be frowned upon here, if I am to be frowned upon for showing my opposition towards Jews and Christians.

This said, every statement I make relative to this subject is intended to be taken lightheartedly.

[TojesDolan]

OK guys, I think everything is settled.

BRA doesn't want racism. Check. No more racist comments on R&M, ever. I'm watching, remember. Oh yeah except on mexicans because I allow it.

[3074326]

I agree that racism should be frowned upon on a forum like this, but I'd also like to point out that I have never been racist since my return.

For reference to my definition on the word "Jew", see a few pages back...

I'm not talking to anyone in particular, I hope I didn't sound that way. I'm just saying that racism on a public forum of this size is something that shouldn't be tolerated if we want the forums to develop further and develop harmoniously.

I'll check for the "Jew" reference.

[Kage]

It doesn't matter. It has no effect on you unless you let it.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

The ****ing point is that you shouldn't let it get to you god damn it.

And consider the ****ing source. The people who are being racist are the biggest idiots on the forum.

Are you that ****ing insecure?



Holy crap, finally someone besides Deathcrush that isn't a moron on this subject!

BRA : You are a hypocrite in the sense that you preach thoughts of anti-racism/faith yet you listen to music that is heavily based around the hatred of faiths and races.

[Deathcrush II]

I'm not talking to anyone in particular, I hope I didn't sound that way. I'm just saying that racism on a public forum of this size is something that shouldn't be tolerated if we want the forums to develop further and develop harmoniously.

I'll check for the "Jew" reference.

No need to check, I pretty much explained it in my previous post.

I really wish "Jews" would stop clinging onto their meaningless label in order to gain the upper hand in any debate regarding "discrimination". It's pathetic.

I'll just simplify; Judeo-Christianity, I do not like you.

[TojesDolan]

Guys, I think everything is settled!

Don't make me mad because then we'll be on something you may not be able to control or respect!

Or like

fu‪ck it, kill each other.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

How is it settled when one person speaks out that half the forum already hates and then gets his way?

[Invicta_Veritas]

Holy crap, finally someone besides Deathcrush that isn't a moron on this subject!

BRA : You are a hypocrite in the sense that you preach thoughts of anti-racism/faith yet you listen to music that is heavily based around the hatred of faiths and races.


But I like the music, so you know what I've done?

I have made it a goal to create the same kind of music but with better lyrics!



Oh, my gosh, someone who tries to make a difference, how hypocritical of me.


And as far as your question goes, it's because I finally said something that made some sense.



Deathcrush: Me being Jewish has nothing to do with playing a card to get the "upper hand" in racist arguments. It simply demonstratesthat the issue does affect me personally. However, I would still be anti-racist if I wasn't Jewish, simply because to me, it's just not right.

[3074326]

It doesn't matter. It has no effect on you unless you let it.

Unfortunately, this is a view that we as a moderation team cannot accept. I feel no need to explain myself in this situation.

While I do agree with that statement, acting on it is not practical.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

But I like the music, so you know what I've done?

I have made it a goal to create the same kind of music but with better lyrics!



Oh, my gosh, someone who tries to make a difference, how hypocritical of me.


You are beyond dumb, it is awe inspiring how dumb you really are you do know that?

[Invicta_Veritas]

Now you're just talking out of your ***, without bothering to see my point.

[TojesDolan]

Do you have taco flavoured kisses?

/banned

No, Kisses actually taste like chocolate.

If you mean lip contact, it usually has an onion aroma to it but tends to be easily dismissed because of the smell of tequila and donkey.

[Deathcrush II]

Now you're just talking out of your ***, without bothering to see my point.

Please, please stop. It's tragic.

Imagine you had some sort of mental disability that made you incable of saying anything remotely feasible, yet every time you spoke, your mind tricked you into thinking you were saying something non-cringe-worthy, nevermind absolutely correct.

Oh, wait.

[Deathcrush II]

No, Kisses actually taste like chocolate.

If you mean lip contact, it usually has an onion aroma to it but tends to be easily dismissed because of the smell of tequila and donkey.

Incase you were wondering why that post looked like ****, and was then deleted; something strange happened and it wouldn't let me edit it without spazzing out on me.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Oh, so other people are allowed to go on rants about dumb **** and degrade/troll other users (mainly me) all the time, but I'm not allowed to go on a rant about a serious subject that affects a lot of people?


**** you're a dipshit.

[Deathcrush II]

I typed out a post in reply to yours that mocked you even further; I have deleted it.

I've come to the conclusion that you may actually be mentally handicapped, even if it is a mild case, and I don't want to give you hassle about it anymore. Sorry to say this in such an insensitive manner.

I hope it's something that improves over time, you're actually a nice guy.

My regards.

[Invicta_Veritas]

^^^^My point exactly. You have no interest in doing anything but trolling. I now know to ignore anything you have to say from this point.

[Deathcrush II]

Man, give it up. I've already given you my regards, there's no reason to stay hostile.

EDIT: By the way, anyone that thinks "LOL deathcrush is trolling the hell out of him that was hilarious" etc, no; you're wrong.

I've never met anyone, in real life or ever on the internet at BRA's age with such a lack of mental ability.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So Bobo, you agree with every viewpoint of every artist you listen to? If you honestly do, then you're a hypocrite as well because there is no way in hell that all the music you enjoy preaches the same values or ideals.


And if you don't share the same values as the artist, you're a hyprocrite just like bra.

[Deathcrush II]

So Bobo, you agree with every viewpoint of every artist you listen to? If you honestly do, then you're a hypocrite as well because there is no way in hell that all the music you enjoy preaches the same values or ideals.

Bobo doesn't run around complaining about trivial offences that suit him to complain about.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

It's a different level of hypocrisy, sure I'll give you that, but it's still ridiculous to call someone out on something like this.

oh yeah, and then to say how hard it is to argue with someone of inept intelligence, and say it again and again; how well of an argument is that? We all just need to chill and realize that we're all fags bitching on the internet about stuff that, like death crush said, is ultimately trivial.

[Deathcrush II]

Trivial indeed, can we cut this **** out now?

[Invicta_Veritas]

But I don't consider it trivial. I consider it an important moral issue, I'm sorry.

[Deathcrush II]

Oh for ****'s sake.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Don't call me out and expect me not to come swinging, sts.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

1) Different viewpoints do exist
2) internet

[Invicta_Veritas]

1) No ****
2) No ****.

[Silenius]

Dude, shut the f‪uck up, Jelle gave me enough powers to help here.

If you want me to act rational and ban the squirrels, I will but that means no more joking around, no more s‪hit, and of course, no more Dargon, or Kage, or Jake, or Wotan, or anyone laughing.

Just Rock and Metal discussion. Anything slightly Alternative or Independent or Punk or -Core will be moved to it's place.

Is that what you want?

Was that in reference to my post above yours or to a post that you didn't quote/got deleted?

[Nostalgia]

Deleted post. You didn't even say anything. :p

[Silenius]

Yeah I was a bit confused since I assumed he was replying to the post above his (mine) since there was no quote.

This thread has gone from it's intended function to retarded cyclic debate regarding religion and race.

[GenuineImitation]

To be honest, this will be impossible to reconcile. This will just go one forever until one of you stop posting in the thread.

Matt, I know that you feel strongly about this, but you wont be able to change other people and what they say on a forum.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Just reminding you becuase you sure are dealing with this internet forum in a very terminal manner...


No, not really. It was just the one subject that really sets me off, and everybody's acting like I'm crazy for thinking racism is wrong and doesn't belong on here past a certain extent.

Victor: Yea, I know. I just had to be heard, and frankly, on a subject like this, I don't care how much I get trolled for it. But I'm done.

[Deathcrush II]

No, not really. It was just the one subject that really sets me off, and everybody's acting like I'm crazy for thinking racism is wrong and doesn't belong on here past a certain extent.

I've already said I can't be bothered with this anymore, but I'd like to add that no one has stood up for racism throughout this entire charade.

[Silenius]

It's the internet, people are anonymous and say whatever the **** they want to. If you don't like it then discuss this in a serious conversation in real life. A music forum (especially Rock and Metal) is not the place to expect everyone to be accepting of other peoples views, plus religious/race debate is completely irrelevant. If you don't like whats going on then either ignore the users or don't go on the forum. That's my take on this.


Plus half of what is said on here is either completely misinterpreted or taken seriously when it is said in sarcasm or as a joke.

[Dargon II]

BRA has shifted the inevitable destruction of his weak and pathetic arguments to the Black Metal thread.

Those wishing to observe lulleriffic action should report there.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I've already said I can't be bothered with this anymore, but I'd like to add that no one has stood up for racism throughout this entire charade.

No, but people are attacking me for supporting another user who felt the same way, as if it was wrong of me to think the same thing as another person. That's the issue.

Good day.

[GenuineImitation]

I've already said I can't be bothered with this anymore, but I'd like to add that no one has stood up for racism throughout this entire charade.

If you cant be bothered, then why are you still posting?

Right now, you guys have shared your feeling about the issue and you are just repeating yourselves/insulting the other. Just let it go already.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

We don't think you're crazy for thinking racism is wrong. I am opposed to racism and think it is a hilariously stupid value to hold.

Giving a damn about a bunch of tongue-in-cheek teens trying to be metal on the internet is why we think you're crazy.

[Invicta_Veritas]

We don't think you're crazy for thinking racism is wrong. I am opposed to racism and think it is a hilariously stupid value to hold.

Giving a damn about a bunch of tongue-in-cheek teens trying to be metal on the internet is why we think you're crazy.

Oh.

[TojesDolan]

Incase you were wondering why that post looked like ****, and was then deleted; something strange happened and it wouldn't let me edit it without spazzing out on me.
It didn't, I just caught it and thought it would be nice to answer.

Oh yeah, I'll go now and let you talk this out. If the conversation ensues past this page and it isn't solved yet, anyone posting things that aren't problems in the next page (this isn't a problem, it's a subjective issue concerning religion), I'll ban anyone who posts past next page.

Yeah.

Take things easy.

[3074326]

Just going to add to what Tojes said.

Basically stop arguing and we'll ban who we think deserves it. If you think there's a problem, report it and let us decide.

There is no need to reply to my post, or to Tojes.

[Schyma]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14936411#post14936411

THis guys relentless on deleteing his account. :confused:

[Silenius]

Joindate - 08-09-2005

That's odd.

[TojesDolan]

How metal of his.

[GenuineImitation]

I never really wanted a bigger avatar until I saw this. I would love you forever if you could make this, http://i14.tinypic.com/54jrr45.jpg , my avatar.

Pretty please with a cherry on top! I'll repay you, however you see fit.

[Stoic]

/steals picture >->

[GenuineImitation]

/steals picture >->

You better not!

[TojesDolan]

hah, Victor. That was awesome. :D

[GenuineImitation]

hah, Victor. That was awesome. :D

Thanks Orlando...I think I love you for this <3

[Dargon II]

that picture wasn't funny when I saw it 4 years ago, and it isn't any funnier now.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Get a sense of humor.

[TojesDolan]

He needs to Windmill Headbang a little, I suspect.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137486

yeh

[GenuineImitation]

that picture wasn't funny when I saw it 4 years ago, and it isn't any funnier now.

I guess the picture is just to elite for you

[Dargon II]

If your entire experience with black metal consists of one Emperor CD and "lol corpse paint is funy", then yeah, it's some hilarious ****.

Otherwise, it's infantile.

[GenuineImitation]

If your entire experience with black metal consists of one Emperor CD and "lol corpse paint is funy", then yeah, it's some hilarious ****.

Otherwise, it's infantile.

Its a joke, calm down dude.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Trying to reason with Dargon is pointless, yea? Just let him keep pretending he's an almighty elite metal god, when he's really just a kid with insecurities. His posting is laughable, his reasoning questionable medically. I think he needs to see a shrink. Let him go, it'll be alright.

[Deathcrush]

Do really feel the need to trigger another 3 pages of arguements about how stupid you are?

[TojesDolan]

But he is an almighty elite metal god.

[Invicta_Veritas]

No, because this is not worth arguing over. Just had to throw my two cents in, yea?


The last go around was actually over a serious subject.

And with that, I'm done.

[Dargon II]

Trying to reason with Dargon is pointless, yea? Just let him keep pretending he's an almighty elite metal god, when he's really just a kid with insecurities. His posting is laughable, his reasoning questionable medically. I think he needs to see a shrink. Let him go, it'll be alright.
obviously the guy called "behemoth_rules_all" knows what he's talking about when he tells you who is/isn't an "elite metal god", because Behemoth is really good and definitely didn't turn into a glossy-magazine kid-friendly MTV band with a mass-marketable image. And they definitely didn't cover the Nine Inch Nails song "Wish" on their Conjuration EP. Nope, they are elite metal through-and-through.

[TojesDolan]

If your avatar windmill headbanged he'd like it.

[GenuineImitation]

If your avatar windmill headbanged he'd like it.

Of course, who wouldnt like a windmill headbanging avatar?

[TojesDolan]

I would love to!

[Riva]

Looks like it's only my presence which stops the forces of Retardation entering our plane of existence. Now there's an ego-boost.

[TojesDolan]

Do you know what we should reinforce, Riva?

Permanent Bans.

[Riva]

I read that as Permanent Buns. I blame your avatar. But yeah, sure, we can start cracking down hard. I already have my communo-facist avatar ready.

[Tremens]

we should begin this new phase of mx by unbanning eliminator

[TojesDolan]

ok done

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

If your entire experience with black metal consists of one Emperor CD and "lol corpse paint is funy", then yeah, it's some hilarious ****.

Otherwise, it's infantile.

Oh man, I just got called infantile by a black metal kid guys. :upset:

harshest pwn ever

[Invicta_Veritas]

i want my avatar bigger. Same one just slightly bigger. I increased the size online, but it only went so far, and still ends up being this size.....

What do I do...I'm not experienced with these things. How do I get

<<<this avatar

bigger, and a link so I can put it in here and request it.



Jake: I bet your world just fell apart. You just done got trolled. Rofl.

[GenuineImitation]

You can resize it in paint and host it on tinypic.com

I can do it for you if you dont know how.

[Invicta_Veritas]

You can resize it in paint and host it on tinypic.com

I can do it for you if you dont know how.

Yea, that would be cool....it won't like stretch it horrible bad, will it?

[Riva]

This is the mindset of Riva.

GET THE HELL OUT OF MY REPORT PROBLEMS THREAD AND TAKE IT TO THE COMMUNITY THREAD

[Deathcrush]

Riva stopped being cool when he went from HeavyRiva to just plain, conformist Riva.

[Riva]

It was one of the results of the diet.

And in Soviet Russia, TREND CONFORMS YOU!

[Invicta_Veritas]

I have a question...


Does MX have a caps lock filter just to piss me off, or is there a more indirect reason?

[Deathcrush]

Wait, are you the same guy that was complaining about how MX is supposed to be "family-friendly" quite a few pages back?

[Riva]

The caps filter is easy to get around, but I will keep the secret of the runes to myself.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Wait, are you the same guy that was complaining about how MX is supposed to be "family-friendly" quite a few pages back?



Rofl, what does caps lock have to do with "family friendly"?

Jason: do you have to do the same crap that you have to with the swear filter?

[Eliminator]

Can the black metal thread be changed to "Official Christ Rape Thread".

Thanks.

[Deathcrush]

Rofl, what does caps lock have to do with "family friendly"?

All caps is abrasive and may turn children into hate-mongering Nazis.

[Invicta_Veritas]

All caps is abrasive and may turn children into hate-mongering Nazis.


Oh, ok.

[Apocalypticon]

Can the black metal thread be changed to "Official Christ Rape Thread".

Thanks.

second'd

or maybe Chirts Rape and Hubris in the house of Varg Vikernes

[Aaron]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1976865

dude's 'vertising

[Bartender]

You can't link to searches, so I can't tell who you're talking about.

[Aaron]

Sorry Bud: Lee Mangano be the fellas name.

[Eliminator]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=529679&page=4

Close.

[Nostalgia]

Can someone just change the title back to the black metal thread please?

[Nepenthe]

How about it just be changed to Hell****ing and Christ Raping Discussion?

[TojesDolan]

I was going to ask for it to a supermod but seeing Quorthance childish response, I won't ask for s‪hit.

[Nepenthe]

aw man

[TojesDolan]

yeah awww

I'll go eat tacos now

[Nepenthe]

wear a sombrero and drive a honda civic with some 17s on it too

[TojesDolan]

I should play some black metal.

[Dargon II]

I'd like to report this guy TojesDolan for spamming up the Announcements area with completely unnecessary announcements that are based on figaments of his delusional, burrito-fueled imagination.

[TojesDolan]

Figaments?

Oh sure. I shall alert the authorities!

[Invicta_Veritas]

Okay, seriously. Dargon is specifically taking Jewish jabs at me, and it's not even close to being "in jest".

Death Metal thread. Matt and I talking about ASP. Dargon has to jump in and take a stab at the one well known Jew here.

What the **** is this ****?

How long does it continue? How tolerant are we going to be?


EDIT: Thank you, Tojes.

[pate]

You talk about tolerance, but weren't you the one that tried to figure out how to get past the swear filter to say faggot? That's not a very tolerant or family friendly word.

[AA-12]

http://i10.tinypic.com/6exfnz6.jpg

plz

Inspired by a rum conversation between Matt and I. I <3 Rum.

[Jom]

Haha, your away status didn't seem particularly long, Captain.

[TojesDolan]

The bets were rolling, Jom.

[Dargon]

so kiddies like Eleventeen are allowed to troll ceaselessly in Death Heads and Black Metal, nonstop posting lame metalcore myspaces, and I get banned becuase I insulted someone who happens to be jewish?

idiots.

[Nepenthe]

oh my ****ing god some of you are so lame

[Invicta_Veritas]

You talk about tolerance, but weren't you the one that tried to figure out how to get past the swear filter to say faggot? That's not a very tolerant or family friendly word.

That word was chosen and being discussed by others. I simply wanted to know how to get past the swear filter. I despise that word and everything representing the mentality behind it.

You'll notice that I never, ever throw that word around, and the only time I have posted it on here is quoting it during the conversation to figure out the swear filter. Don't ever go there with me. Period.








Dargon, quit being a ****ing pussy. You know damn well that it hasn't been your first shot at me, and you did it on purpose. Go get a life that consists of doing something other than being a hostile, arrogant, self centered, offensive prick on an internet forum.

Anthony, if I was one of the people you were referring to, I don't give a bleeding **** if it's just the internet, and I don't give a **** what you believe, but whether it's on the internet or in real life, regardless, I will say something when someone takes a direct shot at me. Why? Because I know right from wrong. If you weren't talking to me, I apologize.



I enjoy posting here; I owe a great deal of my current musical taste and knowledge from many of the users here. That's why I'm still around.

Doesn't mean I'm going to keep my mouth shut when someone is an immoral as.


And the Mods are just doing thier job, so don't troll them. It doesn't matter if you "don't agree" with them. It's not thier problem.

[Silenius]

You talk about tolerance, but weren't you the one that tried to figure out how to get past the swear filter to say faggot? That's not a very tolerant or family friendly word.

Also the guy who when he's angry has at least four ****s in his posts. :rolleyes:

Don't ever go there with me

oh no you didn't pate!
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q71/LGS624/Emoticons/Funny%20Threads/animonalisa3up.gif

[Kage]

Well saying "****" isn't all that offensive.

[Silenius]

Family friendly?

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Okay, seriously. Dargon is specifically taking Jewish jabs at me, and it's not even close to being "in jest".

Death Metal thread. Matt and I talking about ASP. Dargon has to jump in and take a stab at the one well known Jew here.

What the **** is this ****?

How long does it continue? How tolerant are we going to be?




For the love of god, get off the race/religion card. Seriously, get the **** over it.

I bet you don't even practice your faith at all, you just want to be labeled it to use it against every one when they get on your case for anything at anytime.

You are also singlehandely destroying this forum from the inside out with your stupid arguements left and right.

[Invicta_Veritas]

For the love of god, get off the race/religion card. Seriously, get the **** over it.

I bet you don't even practice your faith at all, you just want to be labeled it to use it against every one when they get on your case for anything at anytime.

And I did move on until someone decided to hit me up over it directly and out of the blue. I left the issue alone until that. Seriously, I'm gonna say something when that happens, so deal. I didn't do anything wrong.


And on point number two, don't assume you know a ****ing thing about me. Not a ****ing thing. But go ahead and assume you know **** about my personal life simply because you don't like me. ****. You.



Now, once again, I left an issue alone until somebody takes another stab at me. I'll go rounds over it all night long, mother****ers. Keep going. I got nothing but time.


Or, you could just leave it ****ing be and I won't say a word.

[AA-12]

Jesus, Axl. Calm the **** down or go walk around for a while or something.

[Kage]

Yeah.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Dargon, quit being a ****ing pussy.

That was sexist and derogatory towards women.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

BRA, I think it's time I introduced you to a useful feature of vBulletin called the IGNORE LIST

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/ profile.php?do=editlist

Use it.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Oh, but I do from time to time.


Now drop it.

[Riva]

You should drop it too. In fact, I'm going to start doing the traffic light system.

So you all have a warning.

Any posting in this thread that isn't strictly reporting a problem with the forum, asking an on-topic question about the forum, or making a suggestion about the forum, is going to get you banned.

[Stevie]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14947849#post14947849

this guy has only advertised. ne needs banning

[Riva]

Already done it, but good work citizen.

[rattlehead42147]

i just did an obituary review yesterday (cause of death) and i got 4 of 4 yes votes. the guy that did it before me only got 1 of 2 votes yes. however my review is not the default. why is this?

[Riva]

Because he did his first, I'd imagine. If you want to chase it up with someone, go to the Sputnikmusic forum.

[Deathcrush]

Crush him!

http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530202

[Dargon]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=522266&page=249

spam on here and previous page

[Invicta_Veritas]

Says king troll.


Ban me if you want, it was all in good fun, didn't last long. Dargon's just a pissed off elitest troll.

[Silenius]

Actually I'm with Dargon here, that was just 10 posts of complete spam. Not even arguing about anything, just random pointless ****.

[Invicta_Veritas]

You have to ban everyone though, no favorites. Josh, me, mappy, and Jason.


Oh, but that might ruffle us "veterans" feathers, so we gotta pick and choose who we ban. LOL.

[Silenius]

No-one mentioned that you were going to be exclusively, Dargon didn't ask that you be the only one banned.

[Shattered_Future]

Not sure if this is done here, or if it's even allowed, but I've noticed a lot of regulars have bigger avatars.

If I can, big avatar me as well. :D

http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/Anemiate/?action=view&current=A_World_in_Their_Screams.jpg

If not, sorry for the waste of time.

[Invicta_Veritas]

No-one mentioned that you were going to be exclusively, Dargon didn't ask that you be the only one banned.


I didn't say that. I was more referring to the overall mentality of MX, and the fact the place has gone to crap over the past 3 weeks. I'm just bitching, let it go. I could care less if I'm banned, at least I try to be a decent poster most of the time.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

For ****s sake, you always say LET IT GO

yet you keep going.

and going.

and

going

Maybe you should heed your own advice eventually, idk.

[3074326]

If you guys continue the arguing in that thread I'll ban you all for three days, and won't hesitate to ban the accounts that you re-register with for those three days. It's getting extremely annoying at this point.

Stop arguing, ignore each other, do whatever it takes to stop being babies about it.

I'm personally not banning anyone from the link that Dargon posted, but if it continues you'll all be banned. Stop the spam and the arguing.

[Eliminator]

Why aren't they allowed to argue?

[Cocaine]

Why aren't they allowed to argue?

Arguing on-topic is fine (not in this thread, though). Dargon reported arguing about kids pretending to fight after school, and that thread is annoying as **** as it is.

/leaves.

[AA-12]

It's better than shitty arguments over nothing and people coming in to make fun of the genre.

[3074326]

Why aren't they allowed to argue?

They've argued far too long. They can continue arguing, just not on the forums.

I deleted many posts in the Black Metal thread, not only arguing, but what I thought looked like off-topic discussion.

[Deathcrush]

It's better than poopty arguments over nothing and people coming in to make fun of the genre.

Especially when two mods are culprits, and a childish announcement is made over it...

[rattlehead42147]

i've tried posting this in a bunch of threads but nobody has fixed it yet...

please fix this:
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=2309
my review got 4 of 4 votes and the other one got 1 of 2. mine should be the default review.

[Tyr]

i've tried posting this in a bunch of threads but nobody has fixed it yet...

please fix this:
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=2309
my review got 4 of 4 votes and the other one got 1 of 2. mine should be the default review.

As far as I know, only Sputnik mods can do anything about reviews, so the Sputnikmusic community subforum is the place to take that, I think.

[Invicta_Veritas]

http://musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530290


Close Please.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Did josh ban himself or what?

[Invicta_Veritas]

Did josh ban himself or what?

Wondering that myself....

[TojesDolan]

He was banned because he was spamming in the Pit.

I know. :|

[Cocaine]

Hey! Could someone alert an R&M Forum mod that I can longer post. Thanks

on review site, so im passing it on.

[Kage]

What the hell does he mean by that?

[Deathcrush]

I guess we'll never know. :lol:

[Cocaine]

He can't post, apparently. And how could Josh ban himself...he isn't a mod.

[TojesDolan]

Josh was banned by a pit mod for spam.

Not me of course, I don't have such powers.

R&M mods can't do **** about Sputnik.

[Kage]

I think Deth means he can't post on R&M.

[TojesDolan]

That's weird.

:1

[Riva]

Jelle can fix that up for him, when he's done banging his bitch.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Jason, seriously, why are you promoting pretentious posting in my thread?

[Riva]

Not pretentious at all. :-/

Unless you meant another word there, which in any case I'm trying to get the ball rolling. I did actually post a serious reply at first, then I had to edit Dargon's remarks since it's easier than banning him again.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Ok.

[TojesDolan]

Besides, you were spamming their death metal thread, at least have balls about it.

/rant

That's all I'm saying.

[Nostalgia]

http://musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14958206&postcount=26539

He dropped the white kid card. The whites have been oppressed for too long.

[TojesDolan]

Well, you are white kids.

[rattlehead42147]

As far as I know, only Sputnik mods can do anything about reviews, so the Sputnikmusic community subforum is the place to take that, I think.

i've tried that but most of the report threads are closed
EDIT: sweet it got fixed nvm

[Stoic]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530341
move ftw

[Invicta_Veritas]

http://musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530338


Might be worth stickying, no?

[Riva]

It seems to be floating fairly well on its own.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Okay. 'Twas just a thought.

[Kage]

Remember back when we always had 10 things stickied all the time.

[3074326]

Yeah.

Remember when people could make threads without having to worry if it had an official thread?

I miss those days.

[i am the robots]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=526384

This needs a good ummm, cleaning up, somebody enforce the on-topic rule like the black metal thread or something?

[Invicta_Veritas]

Matt, you're just as guilty in a lot of threads.

[Eliminator]

That doesn't make his point any less valid.

[Nostalgia]

It does need some cleaning up. A 76 page clean up!

[Dave de Sylvia]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=526384

This needs a good ummm, cleaning up, somebody enforce the on-topic rule like the black metal thread or something?
Thanks, it looks like it's back on topic now.

[Slapping Penguin]

Umm, can we have a private message service....

And can we make rep actually do something!

[Apocalyptic Raids]

private messaging has been suggested a million times so I don't think it's gonna happen.

[Kage]

I think Riva had a pretty good explanation as to why private messaging isn't happening ITT. Can't remember exactly why, though.

[Permanent Solution]

Rep is private messaging.

Use AIM/MSN if you need something more.

[Cocaine]

Imagine how slow the servers would be if we had PMing.

[Slapping Penguin]

Sorry :upset:

[Permanent Solution]

You mean the servers could be slower?

I think that would just mean permanent site crash.

[Tyr]

The servers have been pretty good these past couple of days.

[pate]

Knock on wood.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Knock on wood.

Does that ever really work?


Usually does the oppposite for me.

[Cocaine]

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1246/yolkedjesuscopyhs0.jpg

If you could. I need a change and it's just so manly. If not it's cool.

[Stevie II]

thanks for the ban perma

why can I not post in teh pit? do you need a certain no. of posts or something?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

you need to have been a member for two weeks

[Dargon II]

Since I am the best poster you've ever had, can you change my avatar to this?

http://static.metal-archives.com/images/4/3/5/1/43517.jpg

thanks

[Eliminator]

you need to have been a member for two weeks

uh not really

usually you only need 50-100 posts to be able to post in the pit

[Apocalyptic Raids]

ah ok

[Stevie II]

I can view posts but can't reply.

wow, lol I haven't even been registered to this account for 2 weeks

[Dargon II]

hey cool someone did my avatar

who was it? heil to you, mysterious benefactor

[i am the robots]

How the hell did Dargon get a large avatar?

[Dargon II]

I won RMOTM for the month of SATANIC AND BLASPHEMOUS CHAOSTORMS OF HOLOCAUSTIC ANGELREAPING AND BESTIAL VENGEANCE.

[Invicta_Veritas]

He kissed a lot of ***, in other words.

[Dargon II]

actually I'm just as confused as you guys are. I posted the above message, never expecting anyone to change my avatar since I'm considered a troll, and next I logged on it was changed.

[Cocaine]

Can someone clean up the ****ing spam in the metalcore/death heads thread? This is getting ridiculous and it's not funny.

[Deathcrush]

It was never funny when it was happening in the black metal thread, where two mods were culprits, and me complaining about it only resulted in a childish "announcement" being made.

[Nostalgia]

To be honest, it's really only Tojes who's now spamming.

[Nepenthe]

Black metallers are not treated fairly.