In Grind We Crust

[AIRIC]

I just checked out Thulsa Doom and they are great. They don't have crappy crust vocals, which is probably why I like them so much.

[whiteminority]

I just checked out Thulsa Doom and they are great. They don't have crappy crust vocals, which is probably why I like them so much.
Havn't heard them. You got a link by chance?

[heyimsheep1]

Anyone heard of Deadfall?
They're from East Bay. I passed up a chance to see them in Berkeley tonight.
Never listened to them, though.

Also, does anyone know if Wolfbrigade are still together? I got In Darkness You Feel No Regrets. It's mindblowing.

[AIRIC]

Wolfbrigade are great. I love them because it seems like they just explode into their songs kind of like Skitsystem.

[Subvert_bassist]

Ok. Well, yes, I've heard of Deadfall. We're supposed to play with them in a month or so with BORN/DEAD, but Deadfall it taking forever to get back to us. But they're a great band; most of the east bay scene is good. Check out the Rosenbaums, if you can find them.

As for Wolfbrigade, as amazing as they are, they are broken up. Their vocalist can't scream anymore due to some throat problem.

P.S: heyimsheep1, get the Wolfbrigade album Progression/Regression. One ****ing amazing album right there.

[clustifux]

Ok. Well, yes, I've heard of Deadfall. We're supposed to play with them in a month or so with BORN/DEAD, but Deadfall it taking forever to get back to us. Great band.

You Guys are playing with born/dead? where the **** at?
and...
Does anyone else like f-minus? A lot of people absolutly hate them and i cant see why? I absolutly love'em. especially the songs that are under 50 seconds.

[AIRIC]

I like them and still rock my size small shirt.

[Subvert_bassist]

Yeah, I never got too into F-Minus, but what I did hear of them was good.

We're playing with them at some squat house. Fleas and Lice played this place a few months back; maybe you remember it? If not, I'll get you info, I'm sure.

[Brain Toad]

This thread is really active lately, so I just got an idea. Since this is the main discussion thread for Grind, Crust and D-Beat (throwing it in there since it crosses over with crust a lot), it should also have some education. So I think someone (I'm looking at you, J) should write up a couple paragraph explaination of the 3 genres. I will take these explainations and put them in the first post (with credit of course) And it doesn't have to be just one person, you guys can collob on it and such.

[clustifux]

i thought we had everything with the generas discussed a couple 20 posts or so ago.

[Brain Toad]

Those wer ethe blurbs for the list. I'm thinking of something a bit longer if possible. Look at the other education threads, like Oi or Ska.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Anyone heard of Deadfall?
They're from East Bay. I passed up a chance to see them in Berkeley tonight.
Never listened to them, though.
I'm seeing them with Common Enemy, I OBject!, and Witch Hunt in March. I haven't heard them yet.

[Feel The Darkness]

This thread is really active lately, so I just got an idea. Since this is the main discussion thread for Grind, Crust and D-Beat (throwing it in there since it crosses over with crust a lot), it should also have some education. So I think someone (I'm looking at you, J) should write up a couple paragraph explaination of the 3 genres. I will take these explainations and put them in the first post (with credit of course) And it doesn't have to be just one person, you guys can collob on it and such.
I'll see what I can do.

I'm seeing them with Common Enemy, I OBject!, and Witch Hunt in March. I haven't heard them yet.
I saw I Object! tonight, awesome show. really fun set. they're staying here at my pad too, so they're busy watching Soul Plane, haha...me, ima get some sleep, as im tired. They are also cancelling the rest of their tour cause Ryan is having a family emergency back home, but I'm sure they'll still play that show since it's in March.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, I never got too into F-Minus, but what I did hear of them was good.

We're playing with them at some squat house. Fleas and Lice played this place a few months back; maybe you remember it? If not, I'll get you info, I'm sure.

F-Minus rules so hard. I love them.

[Vietnow]

Guys, Check out the band Disneyland. Their myspace keeps getting shutdown because of copyright laws. Check out Mouse of War

http://www.myspace.com/disneyland

[AIRIC]

Anti-Product are so good.

[Feel The Darkness]

LONG LIVE VIDERIC!

haha, that's his band, up the MX PunX!

[AIRIC]

Is it really Videric?

[Feel The Darkness]

Yeah, that's Brandon's band. when i added the band, not knowing he was in it, he messaged me simply saying: " UP THE MX PUNX!" and said his username, and i just laughed.

[Vietnow]

man, I love Disneyland, Didn't know a memeber of the band was from MX.

[AIRIC]

Disney Land or Anti-Product?

[Feel The Darkness]

Disney Land or Anti-Product?
DISneyland

[Subvert_bassist]

Disneyland kicks ***.

[Nihilism'99]

Ha I think I've heard Disneyland. There was one song I was digging.

[whiteminority]

Got the Pig Destroyer split with Orchid yesterday. It is ****ing sick. I like this better than their newer stuff, it's so much more intense and insane. It owns.

[Theramed]

i am listening to terrifier right now. I Dig it

[RetiredAt21]

Got the Pig Destroyer split with Orchid yesterday. It is ****ing sick. I like this better than their newer stuff, it's so much more intense and insane. It owns.

Possibly the best split in the history of the world.

[whiteminority]

i am listening to terrifier right now. I Dig it
Don't get me wrong, I love Pig Destroyer and Terrifyer was probaly the best album of 2004 but these songs on the split are just decimating.

[RetiredAt21]

Don't get me wrong, I love Pig Destroyer and Terrifyer was probaly the best album of 2004 but these songs on the split are just decimating.

It's true, they are mad brutal.

[whiteminority]

Hella brutal.

[clustifux]

haha i love it. every 10 to 20 or so posts we get back to the topic of pig destroyer....Shows how good of a band they actually are.

[whiteminority]

haha i love it. every 10 to 20 or so posts we get back to the topic of pig destroyer....Shows how good of a band they actually are.
:smoke:

[Theramed]

Don't get me wrong, I love Pig Destroyer and Terrifyer was probaly the best album of 2004 but these songs on the split are just decimating.

I'll look out for it, i never really got into orchid though, should I?

[NewKindofArmy03]

May, 30 2006 at The First Unitarian Church
Not Available, Philadelphia, PA 19019
Cost:

Unholy Grave (Japan), Magrudergrind, Yacopsae (Germany), Sanitys Dawn (Germany) + 1 more TBA

[whiteminority]

I'll look out for it, i never really got into orchid though, should I?
It is all about personal taste, I personally love Orchid. But go ahead and give them a try. Their album Chaos is Me is where it is at.

[RetiredAt21]

I'll look out for it, i never really got into orchid though, should I?

Yes, you should. And listen to Ben, definitely get Chaos Is Me, it's fantastic.

[Subvert_bassist]

Hey, my band, Doves Lie Dead, just recorded some new stuff. Crust/hardcore stuff, a lot different than our old stuff. Check it out and give me your opinions?

http://www.myspace.com/dovesliedead

My personal favorite is Death To Humanity, because of the kinda Nausea-style breakdown towards the end. Raaaaad.

[conniption]

I dig it. The vocals are a little loud compared to the other instruments, but thats digging deep. All in all its pretty sick. I like the name too.

[AIRIC]

I like it a lot man. Are you Andy?

[Subvert_bassist]

Thanks guys. Yeah I'm Andy. I play bass, and do the growls in the breakdown to Death of Humanity and in the chorus of Your Freedom is Death.

[Culture Shock]

Hey, my band, Doves Lie Dead, just recorded some new stuff. Crust/hardcore stuff, a lot different than our old stuff. Check it out and give me your opinions?

http://www.myspace.com/dovesliedead

My personal favorite is Death To Humanity, because of the kinda Nausea-style breakdown towards the end. Raaaaad.

I like the new name much better.

[clustifux]

you guys changed Your Freedom Is Death SOOOO Much... you didnt change burn a doller bill did you? And Seen not heard is an incredible song.

[Subvert_bassist]

Yeah, we did a complete overhaul on YFID, but we left Burn A Dollar Bill the same. Just kinda sped it up some; put more energy into it.

[clustifux]

wicked....Anyone Heard of Wake up on fire? i just got their album from a friend...its pretty freakin good.

[AIRIC]

How is Riistetyt pronounced?

[Feel The Darkness]

Ris-te-tute

[AIRIC]

Thanks J.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Sweet, my band is playing with Electric Frankenstein, Resistant Culture, Mouth Sewn Shut(members of Toxic Narcotic), and BSOM March 3rd.

I really wanted to see Resistant Culture on their east coast tour, so it's awesome we're on the show with them.

[Liebensaft]

Not bad. Get them all to come to Red Hill.

P.S. - I don't actually know any of those other bands.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Electric Frankenstein are legendary, theyve been around since the 80s. Their artist is making horror posters for the show too, I can't wait.

[Liebensaft]

I don't listen to much hardcore, or any grind or crust. That might be why I'm unfamiliar.

[NewKindofArmy03]

They're neither, haha. Just a fun and catchy punk band. I just got into them, my friend and his dad love them though.

[Liebensaft]

I might have to check them out in that case.

[clustifux]

mouth sewin shut is awesome. If toxic was added to that set it would be a dope as fuk show.

[Subvert_bassist]

Sweet, my band is playing with Electric Frankenstein, Resistant Culture, Mouth Sewn Shut(members of Toxic Narcotic), and BSOM March 3rd.
Sweet. Resistant Culture is siiiiick.

My band is playing with BORN/DEAD and Deadfall next month. That should be sick, too.

[RetiredAt21]

Sweet. Resistant Culture is siiiiick.

My band is playing with BORN/DEAD and Deadfall next month. That should be sick, too.

Whoa, playing with BORN/DEAD would be awesome. Good luck with that man. :)

[Subvert_bassist]

We probably will be more than this one time, because we're close enough to each other that we can travel to play shows, and we're kinda friends with them. They're cool; the biggest stoners you'll ever meet, though.

[NewKindofArmy03]

mouth sewin shut is awesome. If toxic was added to that set it would be a dope as fuk show.
When my friend told me about the show, he said Toxic Narcotic was the band. Then the next day he said he found out it was Mouth Sewn Shut. Still a sweet show, I just never heard them.

[Hagbard Celine]

anyone here dig Jesus Chrust?

I do... you could even say " I'm nailed right in!"
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[AIRIC]

Very good.

I've never heard them, recommend something?

[Flagjacket]

Electric Frankenstein are legendary, theyve been around since the 80s. Their artist is making horror posters for the show too, I can't wait.
Electric Frankenstein are so awesome. Yeah but Jesus Chrust soudns intriguing, recommendation plz.

[Hagbard Celine]

Very good.

I've never heard them, recommend something?

I'm gonna off-the-bat recommend Feareth the Lord, and Her Nakedness for tracks.

If ya dig it, grab "I'm Nailed Right In". If not, don't worry about it.

[Feel The Darkness]

I got I'm Nailed Right In for those who wanna check it out. Jesus Chrust are good for what they do.

[clustifux]

When my friend told me about the show, he said Toxic Narcotic was the band. Then the next day he said he found out it was Mouth Sewn Shut. Still a sweet show, I just never heard them.

You can find their stuff on myspace. ( i think )

I must add that Napalm Deaths newest album is quite good.

[Feel The Darkness]

hahaha, me and Andy are the top fans for R.A.M.B.O. on Last.FM.

http://www.last.fm/music/R.A.M.B.O.

...but I'm still beating him by a long shot. :naughty:

[Subvert_bassist]

Haha, that's pretty rad.

Because RAMBO ****in rules.

[Gnarmageddon]

Got the Pig Destroyer split with Orchid yesterday. It is ****ing sick. I like this better than their newer stuff, it's so much more intense and insane. It owns.
Holy crap holy crap holy crap holy crap.

I've had it for a while, but I forgot about it and never really listened to it.

It owns my face.

I am listening to 38 Counts of Battery now. lekajifher so good.

[Feel The Darkness]

Haha, that's pretty rad.

Because RAMBO ****in rules.
haha, IN-MOTHER****ING-DEED

[clustifux]

whats rambo stand for? I know it has to do with anarchy and bikes but i dont remember really.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I thought it was 'Resisting American Business Operations.' I thought I read that somewhere, but don't quote me on it. I've also heard Revolution Anarchy Most Bike Overthrow

RAMBO/Municipal Waste/Caustic Christ/FOD next week!

[clustifux]

i loathe you as of right now.

There better be a good show comming up soon around here or im gonna flip out.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I'm lucky I live in Philly. Some other sweet grind/crust shows coming up are Anal C'unt, Disfear/Phobia, and Unholy Grave/Yacaopse(sp?)/Magrudergrind

[Feel The Darkness]

Man, I don't even know what their name means. Someone should ask the band...someone who's gonna see them soon...perhaps someone in Philly...hahaha

[Liebensaft]

I thought it was 'Resisting American Business Operations.' I thought I read that somewhere, but don't quote me on it. I've also heard Revolution Anarchy Most Bike Overthrow

RAMBO/Municipal Waste/Caustic Christ/FOD next week!
F.O.D.eeeeeee!!!! I got a free pin and sticker when they played in Red Hill a couple weeks ago. :cool:

[NewKindofArmy03]

Man, I don't even know what their name means. Someone should ask the band...someone who's gonna see them soon...perhaps someone in Philly...hahaha
I just said! Haha, but I also read they picked the name because a friend reccomended it and they thought it was funny because Stalone is from here and Rambo was a patriotic figure. My guess is they just made up the acronyms later.

And yes, FOD are great. They've been tearing it up since '82.

[Gnarmageddon]

Good bands need to play here. I get jealous of you guys talking about sweet shows you're going to.

[Subvert_bassist]

I thought it was 'Resisting American Business Operations.' I thought I read that somewhere, but don't quote me on it. I've also heard Revolution Anarchy Most Bike Overthrow

RAMBO/Municipal Waste/Caustic Christ/FOD next week!
I just saw Municipal Waste at the Gilman, they got banned. Caustic Christ was ok, not a lot of energy.

[Feel The Darkness]

I just said! Haha, but I also read they picked the name because a friend reccomended it and they thought it was funny because Stalone is from here and Rambo was a patriotic figure. My guess is they just made up the acronyms later.

And yes, FOD are great. They've been tearing it up since '82.
I saw yer post, I meant for ye to ask the band and CONFIRM the meaning of the name. :wave:

[NewKindofArmy03]

Yeah, i've seen Caustic Christ before, I wasn't into them. I'm not big on their actual albums either though.

Municipal Waste on the other hand, 2nd funnest band i've seen, next to RAMBO. So this show will be amazing.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I saw yer post, I meant for ye to ask the band and CONFIRM the meaning of the name. :wave:
Well it was confirmed in an interview that they got it from a friend. I'll try to ask though, just for you.:naughty:

[Feel The Darkness]

Well it was confirmed in an interview that they got it from a friend. I'll try to ask though, just for you.:naughty:
:thumb:

[Subvert_bassist]

Yeah, Municipal Waste was great. I mean, between crazy-energetic thrash metal and flying couches and Black Cats going off all around, it was great fun. Oh, and the wizard.

[Culture Shock]

Good bands need to play here. I get jealous of you guys talking about sweet shows you're going to.

Have you ever seen Pig Destroyer? You guys always talk about them so I figured that I would check them out when they come here in February.

I am seeing Caustic Christ and Municipal Waste at the end of this month too.

[clustifux]

pig destroyer would be awesome to see...id probally get killed in the pit though.(me being a skinny a$s mother and all)

[Brain Toad]

I don't think they are releated to grind or crust, but since J hangs out here and I'm downloading them from him, I'll ask anyway. Is Superjoint Ritual any good? I'm curious about them as Hank Williams III is their touring bassist.

[Feel The Darkness]

I don't think they are releated to grind or crust, but since J hangs out here and I'm downloading them from him, I'll ask anyway. Is Superjoint Ritual any good? I'm curious about them as Hank Williams III is their touring bassist.
metal, not grind or crust. Phil Anselmo's (Pantera) latest band. I like it.

[Brain Toad]

metal, not grind or crust. Phil Anselmo's (Pantera) latest band. I like it.

Hope I like it. I'm scared of R&M so I'm not going in there.

[Feel The Darkness]

hahaha, dont, people there suck, less it's the Titans of Thrash clan.

[Culture Shock]

pig destroyer would be awesome to see...id probally get killed in the pit though.(me being a skinny a$s mother and all)

I am exactly the same. It will be at a small place so we will see.

[whiteminority]

Have you ever seen Pig Destroyer? You guys always talk about them so I figured that I would check them out when they come here in February.

I am seeing Caustic Christ and Municipal Waste at the end of this month too.
Where did you get tour dates?

[Gnarmageddon]

Have you ever seen Pig Destroyer? You guys always talk about them so I figured that I would check them out when they come here in February.

I am seeing Caustic Christ and Municipal Waste at the end of this month too.
I haven't, but GO SEE THEM.

pig destroyer would be awesome to see...id probally get killed in the pit though.(me being a skinny a$s mother and all)
Yeah, same here. I always try to avoid pits becuase I would get owned.

[clustifux]

hah..i never pass up a good pit. Im usually in there 95 percent of the time. I passed out from heat exaustion once. woke up about 10 minutes later, saw that the band was playing one of my favorite songs, and went right back in the pit. haha.

[Culture Shock]

Where did you get tour dates?

I didn't. I just saw that shows were posted at local venues.

[D & V]

hah..i never pass up a good pit. Im usually in there 95 percent of the time. I passed out from heat exaustion once. woke up about 10 minutes later, saw that the band was playing one of my favorite songs, and went right back in the pit. haha.
word

[NewKindofArmy03]

Oh, and the wizard.
Haha, what was his name? I remember it started with mosh, but I can't remember. Did he read some scroll he had with him?

[Subvert_bassist]

I don't remember his name, either. But yeah, he had a scroll, and a wizard's cane.

[whiteminority]

I didn't. I just saw that shows were posted at local venues.
lucky dude, you are lucky.

[clustifux]

dude...i just got word that subhumans, born/dead, and world inferno frienship society are playing frisco in march .... im seriously speachless. my pants need to be rewashed now for this newly discovered information. i dotn know if this falls under the ingrind we crust thread, but this is really the only thread i post in so...oh well.

[Subvert_bassist]

They're playing Sac, too. I dunno if BORN/DEAD is playing with them here, but I know BORN/DEAD is playing with us in February.

[RetiredAt21]

Who do you guys prefer, Tragedy or His Hero Is Gone? I myself prefer His Hero Is Gone, but only by a very small margin.

[Feel The Darkness]

Who do you guys prefer, Tragedy or His Hero Is Gone? I myself prefer His Hero Is Gone, but only by a very small margin.
From Ashes Rise>His Hero is Gone>Tragedy

[clustifux]

They're playing Sac, too. I dunno if BORN/DEAD is playing with them here, but I know BORN/DEAD is playing with us in February.

Where at in sac? Id much rather go to frisco, but as long as i get to see w.i.f.s. and subhumans ill be happy. Cause i know ill see born/dead when you guys play with em.

[RetiredAt21]

From Ashes Rise>His Hero is Gone>Tragedy

His Hero Is Gone>From Ashes Rise>Tradedy

[Feel The Darkness]

His Hero Is Gone>From Ashes Rise>Tradedy
To each their own.

Anyways, I was listening to the new Hellshock LP, and GOD DAMN! This record is so ****ing awesome. They have yet to dissapoint me, and they were my highlight from going to Chaos in Tejas last summer. Awesome band on record and live. I don't see em mentioned too much in here, so check em out!

[RetiredAt21]

To each their own.

Anyways, I was listening to the new Hellshock LP, and GOD DAMN! This record is so ****ing awesome. They have yet to dissapoint me, and they were my highlight from going to Chaos in Tejas last summer. Awesome band on record and live. I don't see em mentioned too much in here, so check em out!

You've never been wrong before, so I'll definitely check that band out.

[Subvert_bassist]

Hellshock rules.

Oh, and:

From Ashes Rise>Tragedy>His Hero Is Gone

Even though they all rule.

[RetiredAt21]

They do indeed all r00l.

[Scabies]

i dont actually like HHIG...

[Theramed]

i saw these bands last night -
Flyblown, Valhalla Pacifists, Braindead, Burning The Prospect, Out Of Hand, Bomb Dogs, Thousand Romans.

[RetiredAt21]

i dont actually like HHIG...

Whaaaaaaaaat? Dude, how can you not like His Hero Is Gone?

[DaveToopes]

What's a good His Hero is Gone album?

[Subvert_bassist]

I like Fifteen Counts of Arson, but you might try Monument to Theives, too.

[DaveToopes]

Alright, thanks. I'll check it out.

[Feel The Darkness]

Don't forget to also check out Hellshock. :thumb:

[RetiredAt21]

I like Fifteen Counts of Arson, but you might try Monument to Theives, too.

They are both REALLY good, I wouldn't be able to pick a favorite out of the two.

[Scabies]

i saw these bands last night -
Flyblown, Valhalla Pacifists, Braindead, Burning The Prospect, Out Of Hand, Bomb Dogs, Thousand Romans.

where the f'uck was that?!

[Theramed]

where the f'uck was that?!

my hometown in loncolnshire its like the smallest town around aside from the villages

[Scabies]

oh right....arent flyblown the most incredible thing youve ever seen?

[Scabies]

and as for HHIG...too slow and bland.

[Theramed]

oh right....arent flyblown the most incredible thing youve ever seen?

yes so very good. as are valhalla pacifist. i love my town

[Subvert_bassist]

Anyone ever heard Dudman? Japanese grind. They just played in Berkeley (in the Super Sabado fest), and they did a split with Bathtub ****ter. Heeeeela good.

[dirtyfrank]

Oh, and to clarify about Siege and any releases they had, they had 0 releases. They released three songs, "Cold War," "Sad but True" and "Wall," on a compilation called Cleanse the Bacteria which is the only official release they ever did. They recorded a demo tape with their other 6 songs on it. They broke up some time after that, and the tape got bootlegged as a 7" called Drop Dead, probably from the first name. Thier three songs from that comp. also got bootlegged as a split 7" with Deep Wound. Relapse remastered the songs in 1994 or something and released it as a CD. Last year Deep Six released it as an LP. Like Major General Despair said, they reformed briefly in the early 90s with Seth Putnam on vocals instead of Kevin Mahoney. It all fell apart and probably for the better.

The Drop Dead cassette, which was named later, probably by one of the bootleggers, wasn't a demo at all. It could be looked at as one, but at the time, it was the only release they could afford. Vinyl was "too expensive" so they opted to put out a cassette release, hoping money would be made to either press some vinyl or record new songs. The cassettes sold out. I don't remember exactly how many were made, but they sold out and chose not to make any more. This was actually an official release at the time.
Cleanse the Bacteria came next and the three songs were done for that.
After that, it's all boots.
It's amazing that after 20 years, Siege is still looked upon with such reverence, man I'm happy to have know those guys and in some small way, played a part.

[RetiredAt21]

The Drop Dead cassette, which was named later, probably by one of the bootleggers, wasn't a demo at all. It could be looked at as one, but at the time, it was the only release they could afford. Vinyl was "too expensive" so they opted to put out a cassette release, hoping money would be made to either press some vinyl or record new songs. The cassettes sold out. I don't remember exactly how many were made, but they sold out and chose not to make any more. This was actually an official release at the time.
Cleanse the Bacteria came next and the three songs were done for that.
After that, it's all boots.
It's amazing that after 20 years, Siege is still looked upon with such reverence, man I'm happy to have know those guys and in some small way, played a part.

Yeah, for a band with very few songs, they made a pretty big impact.

[Scabies]

im looking for that logo (i think its phobia) where it has all the arrows pointing outwards sort of like a crusty compass haha, anyone know what i mean??!?

[Theramed]

http://www.house-of-pain.com/artarchives/december2000/OCPhobia.jpg
that one?

http://www.angelfire.com/rebellion/dirtysouthdistro/phobia.gif

or that one

[Scabies]

ahhh yeah i think thats the ones. you think that would look good something in that style over both elbows (with the centre on the joint)?

[Theramed]

ahhh yeah i think thats the ones. you think that would look good something in that style over both elbows (with the centre on the joint)?


yeh that could be good im not 100% sure though.

[RetiredAt21]

So, I know they aren't grind, but are any of you into Pg. 99?

[whiteminority]

Justin you know where its at on my love for pg. 99 .

[Feel The Darkness]

im looking for that logo (i think its phobia) where it has all the arrows pointing outwards sort of like a crusty compass haha, anyone know what i mean??!?
haha, I'm surprised ye didn't know what it was called. The name is the chaos star. Most political (or just crusty) grind bands tend to use that star. not too sure why. but as for phobia based tats, i wanna get this: http://punkstuff.com/done/PHOBIA_INGRINDWECRUST.gif

[DaveToopes]

I just got a From Ashes Rise album. They're REAL good.

[conniption]

Pg.99 is amazing.

Any of you guys like/seen Circle of Dead Children?

[NewKindofArmy03]

Yeah, I listened to them today. I never get tired of them.

edit-about From Ashes Rise

[DaveToopes]

They're awesome. Not really what I was expecting, I dunno why, but really good.

[Subvert_bassist]

Both FAR and Circle of Dead Children are amazing; an FAR song's lyrics are going into my full sleeves, and CoDC is just damn good.

P.S: Opinion: #1 or #2 for the Doves Lie Dead logo?

#1: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/AndrewsAlbum/mspace.jpg

#2: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/AndrewsAlbum/logo.jpg

[Culture Shock]

Both FAR and Circle of Dead Children are amazing; an FAR song's lyrics are going into my full sleeves, and CoDC is just damn good.

P.S: Opinion: #1 or #2 for the Doves Lie Dead logo?

#1: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/AndrewsAlbum/mspace.jpg

#2: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/AndrewsAlbum/logo.jpg

Eh, I like the first one. Your name always reminds me of The Mob.

[Subvert_bassist]

Well, our first name consideration was No Doves Fly Here, but we went with Doves Lie Dead in the end.

[Feel The Darkness]

I like the 2nd one more. the first just looks cheap, no offense. and if y'all need stuff done, just ask. I did a design for Enslaved Existence from NC. check it: http://myspace-116.vo.llnwd.net/00236/61/16/236116116_l.jpg

I didnt do the logo, but i worked the "WHY?" out of the logo they already had.

[Scabies]

haha, I'm surprised ye didn't know what it was called. The name is the chaos star. Most political (or just crusty) grind bands tend to use that star. not too sure why. but as for phobia based tats, i wanna get this: http://punkstuff.com/done/PHOBIA_INGRINDWECRUST.gif

aye, that was the pic im talking about. i think the star looks too 'clean' though...if its gonna be crust all the edges have to be frayed up and sh'it of course!

[Subvert_bassist]

Is anyone as obsessed with Dystopia as I am? That ****'s sick.

[RetiredAt21]

Dystopia is MAD good.

[Culture Shock]

I like the 2nd one more. the first just looks cheap, no offense. and if y'all need stuff done, just ask. I did a design for Enslaved Existence from NC. check it: http://myspace-116.vo.llnwd.net/00236/61/16/236116116_l.jpg

I didnt do the logo, but i worked the "WHY?" out of the logo they already had.

Dayum. That ****'s good, man. Maybe when my band gets going you could do something for us?

[RetiredAt21]

I wish I could do stuff like that, but I suck.

[Subvert_bassist]

Oh, yeah, J. You could make some **** for us, I'd be real interested to see what you came up with, man.

[whiteminority]

Is anyone as obsessed with Dystopia as I am? That ****'s sick.
Yeah they are bad ***.

[Feel The Darkness]

Oh, yeah, J. You could make some **** for us, I'd be real interested to see what you came up with, man.
Just gimme an idea as to what kind of stuff ye'd want for a design.

[clustifux]

Is anyone as obsessed with Dystopia as I am? That ****'s sick.
i listened to human=garbage about 11 times at school today. You should do the forced listining i just did...haha.(i put dystopia on it as a recomendation)

[Bruce_Forsyth]

http://www.myspace.com/hangoverheartattack these are well good, grind/hardcore type band

[Subvert_bassist]

Just gimme an idea as to what kind of stuff ye'd want for a design.
The text could be something spikey and slightly hard to read; you know, typical crust band logo. If you include an image, it should have something to do with feminism or animal liberation; whichever's easier for you, man. Thanks for givin' us any sort of effort.

And Even, I'll head over there and force some Dystopia on some people, haha.

[$bassline$]

some bands to add:

axiom
baroness
bastard (more of a d-beat/hardcore band but whatever)
bathtub ****ter
blacken the skies
cress
crow
deathside
detestation
dimlaia
disclose (how are they not already on there?)
fleas and lice
gism
kakistocracy (maybe?)
logical nonsense
municipal waste (somewhat crusty but more thrash)
remains of the day
riisteyt (d-beat/hardocre)
skarp

[Subvert_bassist]

I didn't see Amebix on this list at first glance, I almost cried.

P.S: Half of what was posted directly above me isn't crust. For example: Municipal Waste, GISM, Logical Nonsense, and Bathtub ****ter. None are crust.

[Gnarmageddon]

Slumlords, anyone? They're more thrash, but whatever.

[Times Ten]

Anyone listen to Crustina Aguilera?

(Not a joke, they are a real band)

[RetiredAt21]

I want to hear them, judging from the name, they rule.

[RetiredAt21]

I'm loving Slumlords.

[DaveToopes]

Haha yeah that is an awesome name.

[Subvert_bassist]

Yeah, they rule.

[Gnarmageddon]

Their singer's voice kinda gets on my nerves, but I love them.

[Feel The Darkness]

Aight I updated the list.

People need to keep in mind that I don't listen to EVERY crust band, but I do listen to alot of em. So don't get yer panties in a bunch if one band aint on there. hah.

I heard Crustina Aguilera once awhile back, don't recall an exact sound, but I do know I had liked what I had heard.

[MENTAL YO]

RAMBO and A'sschapel are crust bands? I didn't know I liked any crust.

[whiteminority]

Spencer send me some Slumlords on AIM now.

[Feel The Darkness]

RAMBO and A'sschapel are crust bands? I didn't know I liked any crust.
RAMBO are powerviolence/crust kind of stuff. lots of hc with a tad of grind and plenty of crust in the lyrics and the music on the new LP.

I dont think I've heard Asschapel, but Brandon was the one who said to add em and no one contested, so i added em.

[Feel The Darkness]

Slumlords are technically hc, but they rule anyways, so i dont mind them being talked about.

[Times Ten]

I'm seeing RAMBO on Friday.

[heyimsheep1]

Iron Lung- http://www.myspace.com/ironlungdeath
Live set- http://wethepunx.com/speedtrials/UGZ.ST02.mp3/ugz.ironlung.02.mp3

Awesome band from Seattle.

[emobasher]

severed head of state yea i dunno if any1 put them and theres to many posts to look and im lazy so here ya go

[Subvert_bassist]

Iron Lung is amazing. I love their split with Lana Dagales.

[Subvert_bassist]

I'm seeing RAMBO on Friday.
**** you, lucky bitch.

[RetiredAt21]

Asschapel seems more like thrash to me. They don't really sound crusty at all.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, Iron Lung is a pretty good band.

[clustifux]

For the Anarcho and Crust Debate:
In my opinion, anarcho doesnt have a specific sound. Most believe that anarcho should sound like crass or rudi p. I think its more based around the ideology of anarchy and freedom and what the lyrics are. Crust on the other hand is just a cross breed of Metal and Hardcore Punk. But either way the music still rocks my socks.

For the List:
Antischism(im not sure, but they seem like crust to me)
Dot****ingCom(same as above)
F-Minus(early stuff is considered crust)
Wake up On Fire
AnarchOi
Behind Glass Shadows
Contravene
(for andrew)Doves Lie Dead
DS 13
Resistant Culture
Katastrofialu(Cross between d-beat and crust, if you want to check em out hit me up..ill send you their discograhpy)
Garmonbozia
Circle Takes Square
Born/Dead
Econochrist
Icons of Filth
H-100
Murderers
N.O.T.A.
Social Unrest

Bands i wasnt sure of:
1905
Mankind?
SPAZZ
USV
Crucifix(perhaps)
MDC
And ill throw Protesti in there for tthe hell of it.

I loves me crust..haha

NOTE: I didnt look threw the list with a fine tooth comb, i just browsed it a few times, so if there are any bands on my list that are already on there...my bad

[Subvert_bassist]

I agree with most of that, except Spazz and MDC.

P.S: Thanks for the reference, haha.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, I wasn't so sure about Spazz, and especially MDC.

[Gnarmageddon]

Spencer send me some Slumlords on AIM now.
I will when I see you online.

[clustifux]

yeah...i just put em in there cause i was listinin to MDC and a song reminded me of another crust song. I think i was trying to put Spazm 151 but spazz ended up comming up...i was some what not with reality last night...heh.

[Times Ten]

I dunno if they are crust or not because I don't care for really specific labels, but there are a bunch of killer bands on that list.

[clustifux]

yeah im not too big a fan of genera labels either...but its a good way to find specific sounds youi like.

[Feel The Darkness]

I add those in when im not so lazy.

Although, Katastrofialu are awesome. thanks for sending me the album.

[clustifux]

not a problemo...i still havent been able to find the lyircs sheet.

And we cant forget our favorite myspace band...

DISNEYLAND!!! haa

[RetiredAt21]

Disneyland r00lz!

[RetiredAt21]

So, Slayer kicks alot of a'ss.

[Subvert_bassist]

Yes they do.

So how about some thrash/hardcore? Anyone like the likes of Machine Gun Romantics, Haymaker, and Betercore?

[whiteminority]

So, Slayer kicks alot of a'ss.
Yep.

I am really digging Aus-Rotten right now, and I am confused would they be called crust or anarcho?

[Lazybassplr56]

Because.

[Feel The Darkness]

Yes they do.

So how about some thrash/hardcore? Anyone like the likes of Machine Gun Romantics, Haymaker, and Betercore?
Machine Gun Romantics ruled. RIP.

Check out their new bands:
http://www.myspace.com/knucklescraper
http://www.myspace.com/5050skategore
http://www.myspace.com/insectwarfare

GCGC!
GCPV!

I also picked up a Haymaker 7" not too long ago. They rule.

Yep.

I am really digging Aus-Rotten right now, and I am confused would they be called crust or anarcho?
I just keep em at borderline for both. No matter what they're exactly called, they still rule.

[whiteminority]

I just keep em at borderline for both. No matter what they're exactly called, they still rule.
Word.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

Grind scares me too much to listen to for any period of time.


Some friends of mine like Cattle Decap though.

[whiteminority]

Are you talking about gore grind or just grind in general? Because most grind shouldn't be scary.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

It's terrifying. Just the singing. It's so terrifying.

[DaveToopes]

Haha, I had a similar mindset not too long ago, but was soon shown the light.

<3 grind.

[Brain Toad]

Grind scares me too much to listen to for any period of time.


Some friends of mine like Cattle Decap though.

Grind is short though, so it's over pretty fast. When I first started getting into it my experience with grind was pretty much

OHGODITSOFASTWHATTHE****ARETHEYDOINGTHISISINSANEAH HHHH then it was over.

[Liebensaft]

I listened to the Great Redneck Hope. I'm not sure how they'd be classified. It was kind of scary, and I didn't understand a single word, and it all sort of blended together, but I kind of wanted to listen to it again and might soon.

I also enjoy Toxic Narcotic, but I don't know what category they'd fit in either.

[AIRIC]

Toxic Narcotic are a crust band and are awesome. Great Redneck Hope are "white belt grind" or just grind. Behold the **** Thunder is amazing though.

[Liebensaft]

*isn't familiar with this so-called "white belt grind", but knows that white belts are synonymous with dumbass scene kids, even though he knows a cool punk kid bassist who wears a white belt*

[Gnarmageddon]

White-belt grind is basically popular grind that a lot of lame scene kids listen to just to be cool.

And I enjoy Cattle Decap, Jack.

[Subvert_bassist]

Machine Gun Romantics ruled. RIP.

Check out their new bands:
http://www.myspace.com/knucklescraper
http://www.myspace.com/5050skategore
http://www.myspace.com/insectwarfare

Yeah, I just saw Insect Warfare. Hella good.

I know this probably isn't up some of your guys' alleys, but check out my friends metal band. I just saw them tonight, and I think they're ****ing fantastic.

http://www.myspace.com/anomaly677

[Brain Toad]

Great Redneck Hope are white belt? Meh, they were the band that got me really into grind after only dabling in Anal Cunt and Agoraphobic Nosebleed.

I listened to The Locust and thought it absolutely horrible.

[Feel The Darkness]

Yeah, I just saw Insect Warfare. Hella good.

I know this probably isn't up some of your guys' alleys, but check out my friends metal band. I just saw them tonight, and I think they're ****ing fantastic.

http://www.myspace.com/anomaly677
Yeah, I was hoping to make it out there for SSG but to no avail.

I'm not a fan of those "deathcore" bands. the music is decent, but it's just the new trend. I also hate the vocals most of these bands have. It's all basically the new white-belt scene. No offense to your friends, cause I have alot of friends into that ****, but none of them have been into hardcore for more than a year. They'll learn to enjoy better music. haha

anyways, np: Hammerfall - Let the Hammer Fall

:smash:

[Subvert_bassist]

Why would I take offense, man? I asked for opinions, and if I can't take the negative as well as the positive, I'm a hypocritical moron.

[Feel The Darkness]

Why would I take offense, man? I asked for opinions, and if I can't take the negative as well as the positive, I'm a hypocritical moron.
haha, good man.

[clustifux]

what exactly is the definition of white-belt music? Ive heard white belt grind mentioned, as well as white belt hardcore, and i actually haven o idea what it is.

[Feel The Darkness]

what exactly is the definition of white-belt music? Ive heard white belt grind mentioned, as well as white belt hardcore, and i actually haven o idea what it is.
basically just stuff scenesters obssess over.

[clustifux]

oh...clears it up i soppose....i still like the locust. haha. File Under Soft Core.. is awesome...not to mention the vinyl i have. But wouldnt that make bands like The Ramones and Sex Pistols White Belt Punk?

EDIT: "Cause if you dont listen to the ramones you arnt cool"...'hah

[Brain Toad]

oh...clears it up i soppose....i still like the locust. haha. File Under Soft Core.. is awesome...not to mention the vinyl i have. But wouldnt that make bands like The Ramones and Sex Pistols White Belt Punk?

EDIT: "Cause if you dont listen to the ramones you arnt cool"...'hah
"punk" scenesters usually stick to crappy pop-punk and pop-rock rather then actual punk, such as Taking Back Sunday and the like.

They do enjoy wearing Ramones shirts though.

[whiteminority]

Toxic Narcotic are a crust band and are awesome. Great Redneck Hope are "white belt grind" or just grind. Behold the **** Thunder is amazing though.
I wouldn't call The Great Redneck Hope white belt.

[Gnarmageddon]

Great Redneck Hope are white belt? Meh, they were the band that got me really into grind after only dabling in Anal squirrel and Agoraphobic Nosebleed.

I listened to The Locust and thought it absolutely horrible.
Ha. At least you gave them a chance. :p

You will not be a victim of the Locust Reign in the year 2035.

[whiteminority]

Spencer you are not supposed to locust of the locust.

:p

[Gnarmageddon]

Eh, what are they gonna locust to me?

[whiteminority]

They will Locust in the locusts! And locust you from a locust foot high locust! I have locust too locust. Save yourlocust.

[RetiredAt21]

...I'm so confused.

[whiteminority]

Inside locust.

[RetiredAt21]

Oh, werd.

[DaveToopes]

Laugh out locust!

[whiteminority]

Locust out locust!
locust'd

[DaveToopes]

Oh, locust for locust.

[whiteminority]

^ has a locust inch locust. 8=)
<--- has a locust inch locust 8=============)

[Brain Toad]

^ has a locust inch locust. 8=)
<--- has a locust inch locust 8=============)

So locust'd he's going need some locust

[DaveToopes]

For locust's sake! That wasn't very locust.

I'ma locust you non-locusts up.

[Feel The Darkness]

Disneyland r00lz!
I concur!

I will probably add those bands afore mentioned to the list sometime today.

[Theramed]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4824705243&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

I won

[RetiredAt21]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4824705243&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

I won

Wow, good stuff right there.

[RetiredAt21]

About Asschapel again though, they sound thrash to me, not crust.

[Feel The Darkness]

About Asschapel again though, they sound thrash to me, not crust.
someone link me to some Asschapel so i can have my input in this.

[RetiredAt21]

They have a song on that green plastic grass site, go there and check it out.

[Theramed]

For the Anarcho and Crust Debate:
In my opinion, anarcho doesnt have a specific sound. Most believe that anarcho should sound like crass or rudi p. I think its more based around the ideology of anarchy and freedom and what the lyrics are. Crust on the other hand is just a cross breed of Metal and Hardcore Punk. But either way the music still rocks my socks.


yes, and to some it up - Anarcho isnt a genre its a description of the music like straight edge

[Feel The Darkness]

They have a song on that green plastic grass site, go there and check it out.
i dunno, man, it sounds like crust to me. yeah it has some thrash riffs going on, and good ones too, but they're not reall thrash. it seemed like it was crust with some thrash and tads of metlcore tossed it, i still think it's crust now that ive heard it.

For those who would like to hear aswell: http://www.flowerviolencerecords.de/MP3/asschapel_.mp3

This is the description given from the Flowerviolence website:
Heavy, thick powered-hardcore with guttural vocals and weaving layered style. Their sound is intense with power of dual vocals and weaving guitars driven by the pummel of a double bass drum. The break into some manic crazy thrash parts too.

[whiteminority]

i locust up.

[RetiredAt21]

Stop doing that, or someone let me in on this. This is killing me.

[Brain Toad]

Stop doing that, or someone let me in on this. This is killing me.

Haha, what a locust.

[Liebensaft]

Your locust is unzipped.

[AIRIC]

Locust.

[Feel The Darkness]

http://www.myspace.com/5050skategore

Houston grindcore band, 50/50 has 3 new rough tracks that are gonna come out on their debut EP. go check em out.

FRONTSIDE FACE GRIND!

[Subvert_bassist]

^^^ That locust hella locust'd.

Raaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

[Gnarmageddon]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4824705243&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

I won
Locust, man! I can't believe you got that locust.

[whiteminority]

Everylocust, just locust the locust locust!

[Subvert_bassist]

The locust NEVER locusts!

[Brain Toad]

The locust NEVER locusts!

My locust locusts

[DaveToopes]

What on locust has locusted to this locust?

[Theramed]

locust

[clustifux]

if there was any way possible, we should change the swear filter to replace any curse word with locust......FOR LOCUSTS SAKE!

[whiteminority]

I never locust for this locust to locust such a locust.

[whiteminority]

New locust title:

In Locust We Locust

[Theramed]

no just

Locust locust locust locust

[Gnarmageddon]

Alright, locusts. Enough of this locust!

Locust, or I locust.

I like The Locust.

No, really.

[whiteminority]

no just

Locust locust locust locust
You use it inproperly. The reign of the Locust is over at least until 2035.

[Liebensaft]

Holy hell, that's obnoxious.

[AIRIC]

I don't understand grind anymore.

[Subvert_bassist]

I don't understand you anymore.

[AIRIC]

Locust amirite?

[clustifux]

yeah i think we should divert from the locust usage....and anyyone that uses locust in any other form of speach than naming the band should be banned...haha