In Grind We Crust

[MILF Hunter]

Everyone should listen to Battle Of Disarm - A great jap crust band

[Feel The Darkness]

Everyone should listen to Battle Of Disarm - A great jap crust band
:thumb:

[Toe Rag]

What?
Flo = drummer from Cryptopsy


I like Lykathea Aflame. http://obscene.cz/mp3/038.mp3

[SGlove]

Ed Gein
The Number 12 Looks Like You
As the Sun Sets
The Locust
Pig Destroyer.

Mmmmmm

[Manikin]

Ed Gein
The Number 12 Looks Like You
As the Sun Sets
The Locust
Pig Destroyer.

Mmmmmm
i dont think the number twelve looks like you would be considered grind, more like technical metal/post hardcore. though they do kick *** and put on an even better live show.

[RetiredAt21]

I wouldn't call them post hardcore. But yeah, they definitely aren't grind.

[fatpunk]

i know what crust is
what is grind?

[Toe Rag]

Grind is a type of metal/punk which often consists of blast beats, growling/screaming, metallic riffing and stuff. Short songs, usually under a minute and often political in nature. A lot of people credit Napalm Death with inventing it, but I say eff that and point the credit towards Siege. As you have probably already read, I consider a lot of grind now a days to be crappy death metal, partly in thanks to Napalm Death. There is a subgenre of grind called powerviolence which is grind that is punk rather than metal, though a lot of grindheads don't seem to know about powerviolence and it is usually considered a genre in its own right rather than a subgenre of grind.

[Feel The Darkness]

Grind is a type of metal/punk which often consists of blast beats, growling/screaming, metallic riffing and stuff. Short songs, usually under a minute and often political in nature. A lot of people credit Napalm Death with inventing it, but I say eff that and point the credit towards Siege. As you have probably already read, I consider a lot of grind now a days to be crappy death metal, partly in thanks to Napalm Death. There is a subgenre of grind called powerviolence which is grind that is punk rather than metal, though a lot of grindheads don't seem to know about powerviolence and it is usually considered a genre in its own right rather than a subgenre of grind.
BRAVO!

although i still disagree about the whole death metal thing, but thats cause ive always been a big fan of metal, so the death metal deal doesnt bother me none. hell, i used to be in a death metal band. nice explanation though. :thumb:

[syurix]

Okay, so I need to know proper definitions for the following:

grindcore
spazzcore
emoviolence
powerviolence

So far, I can only make minor delineations between them, and they all seem to apply like a venn diagram. Someone who knows this stuff better than I do explain it.

[Feel The Darkness]

Okay, so I need to know proper definitions for the following:

grindcore
spazzcore
emoviolence
powerviolence

So far, I can only make minor delineations between them, and they all seem to apply like a venn diagram. Someone who knows this stuff better than I do explain it.
grindcore/grind and powerviolence are explained in Toe Rags last post

[cbmartinez]

Emo violence is just really spazzy screamo, basically power violence. In/Humanity coined the term and are really the only band I apply the term too, even though they don't really have that much emotion.

[Toe Rag]

Yeah, as the above poster said, emo violence is supposed to be mega fast emo. Stuff that gets the label is Orchid, Love Lost but Not Forgotten, In/Humanity and probably a lot of other stuff I don't know. Spazzcore is supposed to be, as the names suggests, spazzy hardcore. Stuff like Blood Brothers and Antioch Arrow. I can't stand it.

[cbmartinez]

I never use spazzcore.

[Toe Rag]

Me neither. Same with "emo violence"

[cbmartinez]

Spazzcore pretty much guarantees the band is composed of a bunch of pretty scene boys.

[RetiredAt21]

Pretty scene boys=every band in Lancaster

Except for The Scarlet Affair *dry heaves*

[Kosta]

BRAVO!

although i still disagree about the whole death metal thing, but thats cause ive always been a big fan of metal, so the death metal deal doesnt bother me none. hell, i used to be in a death metal band. nice explanation though. :thumb:


Also, I'd still consider powerviolence a form of grind. I mean, it has the exact same ingridients, and it's performed in the same way, there's just more emphasis on the punk rather than the metal. But I don't think that would make it a different genre.

[punkerjeff]

I listen to Nausea, F-Minus, Experiment In Terror(rip) and a couple other bands like that. I guess that counts as punk/crust.

As for grind, I mainly listen to more metalic grind such as Ed Gein, **** The Facts, Ion D, Numbers Revolt, Discord Of A Forgotten Sketch, Cobra Noir, etc...

[Toe Rag]

Also, I'd still consider powerviolence a form of grind. I mean, it has the exact same ingridients, and it's performed in the same way, there's just more emphasis on the punk rather than the metal. But I don't think that would make it a different genre.
Yeah, I didn't really mean it was a different genre. It's hard to explain. Most grind kids don't seem to be up on powerviolence because most grind kids come from metal whereas pv kids come from punk. PV /is/ grind, but grind is most often considered metal and pv is definately punk, so people tend to seperate the two. I hope that makes sense.

[RetiredAt21]

Nausea is awesome. I love F-Minus, but they are hardcore.

[SactoUnited]

F-Minus is hardcore, but they have a crusty sound to them.

[RetiredAt21]

Yes, I 'spose they do have a bit of a crusty sound to them.

[sirTHRASH]

im a newbie to this so erm yeah anyway some of my favoritve grind and crust bands are . Combat wounded Veteran,extreme hate,Anal cunt,Caustic christ,Aus Rotten,Hellshock,severed head of state :thumb:

[RetiredAt21]

Those are pretty good bands. And welcome to Mx by the way sirTHRASH.

[Kosta]

Yeah, I didn't really mean it was a different genre. It's hard to explain. Most grind kids don't seem to be up on powerviolence because most grind kids come from metal whereas pv kids come from punk. PV /is/ grind, but grind is most often considered metal and pv is definately punk, so people tend to seperate the two. I hope that makes sense.


Yeah, it does.

I think, and I'm not too sure, but, I think that the main difference is that powerviolence is noisier and grind is heavier. If that makes sense.

Still, most people refer to powerviolence as grind. Except for when they're describing a said band.

[Toe Rag]

Still, most people refer to powerviolence as grind. Except for when they're describing a said band.
Yeah, I guess that is a better way of saying what I was trying to say.

[Vitriolic Rage]

Napalm Death
Agoraphobic Nosebleed
Giant Brain
Cepahlic Carnage
Carcass
The Locust
****....I'm Dead

[RetiredAt21]

I LOVE Carcass. They turned death metal didn't they?

[Feel The Darkness]

I LOVE Carcass. They turned death metal didn't they?
that does seem to be the trend, they kinda dabbled in tech metal and death metal.

[RetiredAt21]

Heartwork was death metal right? I like Heartwork alot.

[Feel The Darkness]

Heartwork was death metal right? I like Heartwork alot.
I haven't listened to any Carcass in awhile, so I'm not all that sure, but if I remember right, yes, Heartwork was their death metal album.

[RetiredAt21]

Heartwork was some quality music. Alot of my friends disagree though, and dismiss death metal as mindless music for idiots.

[Feel The Darkness]

Heartwork was some quality music. Alot of my friends disagree though, and dismiss death metal as mindless music for idiots.
PFFT...ye hear me? PFFFT!

:lol:

nah, some is kinda shitty, though there are alot fo great detah metal bands. my fav being AMON AMARTH! masters of viking death metal. :thumb:

[RetiredAt21]

Oh man, you are my new best friend, I love Amon Amarth. But yeah, there are some REALLY crappy death metal bands. Six Feet Under. I laugh everytime I listen to them.

[Drall]

Heartwork was some quality music. Alot of my friends disagree though, and dismiss death metal as mindless music for idiots.

Heartwork is good Death Metal. I think they hit the peak of Death Metal perfection with Necroticism: Descanting the Insalubrious, though.

[Feel The Darkness]

Oh man, you are my new best friend, I love Amon Amarth. But yeah, there are some REALLY crappy death metal bands. Six Feet Under. I laugh everytime I listen to them.
haha, yea, Six Feet Under had some decent tunes, but they're nothing special. the entire brutal death metal scene makes me laugh, mostly cause of the people involved in it, but talk of corpse ****ing is pretty funny too. :naughty:

[RetiredAt21]

Most br00tal death metal is good for a chuckle or two.

[Feel The Darkness]

Most br00tal death metal is good for a chuckle or two.
they've practically become novelty bands along with any gothic black metal bands. btw, have ye heard of Impaled Nazarene?

[RetiredAt21]

The name sounds very familiar to me, do you have any songs of theirs that you could upload?

[Feel The Darkness]

The name sounds very familiar to me, do you have any songs of theirs that you could upload?
if ye got slsk, i got like 4 albums on there, but ill upload some songs on here first. hold on...

[RetiredAt21]

Ok thanks.

[Feel The Darkness]

if ye got slsk, i got like 4 albums on there, but ill upload some songs on here first. hold on...
Hardboiled and Still Hellbound - http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ZW41NR24MR651440TWP8WKEK9

6th Degree Mind**** - http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1801J4RJIK9CL26TGV6HIEDC0Q

Nihil - http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0TFFJXTL5G1RB0SGTI6IN20P7W

[RetiredAt21]

These are pretty good, but the first one came off as a tad cheesy, but I still like it.

[xcarvingheartsx]

check out into the moat if you like really technical grind.

[Feel The Darkness]

check out into the moat if you like really technical grind.
Got any songs ye can upload for us?

[Scabies]

My Flyblown thread died on its arse so lets see how i do in here...

Awesome local crusty punk band with ex members of Scalplock, Oi Polloi, Boxed In, Dead By Dawn etc. Recently released a split CD with Disclose and have just finished an amazing new album!
Check them out!!

http://www.myspace.com/flyblown
http://www.flyblown.co.uk/

Testify (http://www.flyblown.co.uk/media/mp3/testify.mp3)
No Peace (http://www.flyblown.co.uk/media/mp3/No%20Peace.mp3)
Destroy The State (http://www.flyblown.co.uk/media/mp3/Destroy%20The%20State.mp3)

[Feel The Darkness]

My Flyblown thread died on its arse so lets see how i do in here...

Awesome local crusty punk band with ex members of Scalplock, Oi Polloi, Boxed In, Dead By Dawn etc. Recently released a split CD with Disclose and have just finished an amazing new album!
Check them out!!

http://www.myspace.com/flyblown
http://www.flyblown.co.uk/

Testify (http://www.flyblown.co.uk/media/mp3/testify.mp3)
No Peace (http://www.flyblown.co.uk/media/mp3/No%20Peace.mp3)
Destroy The State (http://www.flyblown.co.uk/media/mp3/Destroy%20The%20State.mp3)
Haha, well if it'll help keep this thread alive, it's all good, haha. Like I said in the thread, I've heard some stuff by em, really enjoyed it, and I'd love to see em live...if i lived in the UK. :lol:

[Scabies]

Well if your from Europe their doing a massive tour this Autumn?!

[Feel The Darkness]

Well if your from Europe their doing a massive tour this Autumn?!
Sounds good...too bad im in the US. :upset:

[RetiredAt21]

Holy crap, Flyblown is awesome.

[Feel The Darkness]

HOLY CRIP, HE'S A CRAPPLE!

haha, love that, but yea, they're great.

[RetiredAt21]

Anyone like Crotchduster? Pretty amazing one man band.

Mammal Sauce is pretty hilarious.

[RetiredAt21]

I can't let my sweet thread die. BUMPAGE.

[Feel The Darkness]

I can't let my sweet thread die. BUMPAGE.
havent heard Crotchduster, YSI!

[whiteminority]

Oh man, you are my new best friend, I love Amon Amarth. But yeah, there are some REALLY crappy death metal bands. Six Feet Under. I laugh everytime I listen to them.
Amon Amarth are cool.

[Feel The Darkness]

Amon Amarth are cool.
:thumb:

oh and something to browse for some good tunes:
http://www.geocities.com/greenplasticgrass

great archive for crust and anarcho and some thrash mp3s. enjoy!

[RetiredAt21]

Holy crap, thanks so much JAtomic, this website is so unbelieveably cool.

[Feel The Darkness]

Holy crap, thanks so much JAtomic, this website is so unbelieveably cool.
ind33d. Meggy-poo (OPran/Feminazi/Alley McSqueel) posted it awhiles back, had it in my bookmarks for a while now. has loads of great stuff on there. :thumb:

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, I got some Scholastic Death, Agothocles, Carcass Grinder, Cheerleaders of the Apocalypse, and Black Market Fetus. Awesome stuff.

[DakotaFloyd]

Pig Destroyer is one of my personal favorites.

[RetiredAt21]

Pig Destroyer own.

[Feel The Darkness]

Yeah, I got some Scholastic Death, Agothocles, Carcass Grinder, Cheerleaders of the Apocalypse, and Black Market Fetus. Awesome stuff.
Scholastic Deth are ****ing awesome. :thumb:

The Killed by School EP is really great.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah it is. I like the song "Killed By School", pretty funny.

[RetiredAt21]

Has anyone ever heard of PETA is at the Door and I'm Holding a Gun to the Cat's Head? They are pretty good.

[Toe Rag]

Scholastic Deth is sweet, but they're thrash, not grind (unless you just wanted to mention them, in which case ignore the second half of the original thought). PETA is at the Door and I'm Holding a Gun to the Cat's Head <-- I've heard the name I think....:|

[RetiredAt21]

Have you heard any of their songs? I've heard like...3 I think, and I like them alot.

[RetiredAt21]

Ugh, I was gonna post a link to some of their songs, but I forgot the name of the website. Argh!

[RetiredAt21]

Anyone ever hear of Macabre? They are kinda death metal-ish, but still awesome. Anyone like them?

[Feel The Darkness]

Anyone ever hear of Macabre? They are kinda death metal-ish, but still awesome. Anyone like them?
heard of, yet to listen to em though.

oh and i found this awesome merch site: http://www.hellsheadbangers.com/

they got loads of good metal, grind, dbeat records and ****, some crust too, but not much.

[RetiredAt21]

Whoa, that site is aweosme, they have a bunch of cool s'hit on there.

[Feel The Darkness]

Whoa, that site is aweosme, they have a bunch of cool s'hit on there.
yea, i dint even remember how i found it, but it's awesome.

[RetiredAt21]

I've downloaded alot of awesome stuff from that greenplasticgrass website that you posted. Fields of S'hit and A'sschapel are awesome. Thanks again for posting that awesome site.

[Feel The Darkness]

I've downloaded alot of awesome stuff from that greenplasticgrass website that you posted. Fields of S'hit and A'sschapel are awesome. Thanks again for posting that awesome site.
yea, no prob, i love that site, especially when im in school and i need music for projects and slide shows :naughty:

[RetiredAt21]

Hahaha. What songs have you used for school projects and such?

[Feel The Darkness]

Hahaha. What songs have you used for school projects and such?
It was mostly in my BIM&M (Business Information Multimedia Management er some ****) class, cause all we'd do was mess with photoshop, frontpage, and SWiSH. On one of the flash movies we had to do, was a 30 sec commercial, and i did Profane Existence, which it actually came out damn good, and i used Global Cannibal from Behind Enemy Lines. I know i used others, but i fergot which ones, but for the most part I would just d/l songs for listening pleasure during a boring lesson er whatnot.

[RetiredAt21]

Hahaha, that's awesome. Everything was blocked on my school computers, so I couldn't download anything, it sucked.

[RetiredAt21]

I just saw a couple Vincent Price's Orphan Powered Death Machine videos, I wish they would get back together. :(

[whiteminority]

I just saw a couple Vincent Price's Orphan Powered Death Machine videos, I wish they would get back together. :(
They sound good. Got any links? They grind or crust?

[RetiredAt21]

They are a mix of grind and hardcore I guess.

[whiteminority]

They are a mix of grind and hardcore I guess.
Wouldn't that dilute the grind? I mean grindcore in its pure form is hardcore/metalcore going a thousand miles a second. So what I want to know is if a grind band, for example Pig Destroyer, added more hardcore into its music would it not slow down and in essence not be grind but say a step below grindcore really fast metalcore?

[RetiredAt21]

Well no, the definition of grindcore is a mix of grind and hardcore, hardcore that grinds. Trust me, once you hear some, you will know what I mean, just let me find a link.

[whiteminority]

ok man sounds good. it just sounded confusing.

[RetiredAt21]

I can't find the link. Argh. I'll have to ask my friend.

[Feel The Darkness]

I can't find the link. Argh. I'll have to ask my friend.
yes, do, with a name like that, they sound intuiging enough to give a listen.

[SactoUnited]

Are Lock Up considered Grind?

[Feel The Darkness]

Are Lock Up considered Grind?
never heard, wouldn't be able to say, linkage?

[SactoUnited]

I don't think so, but maybe, theres a song on this page.

http://www.nuclearblastusa.com/download.html

[Feel The Darkness]

I don't think so, but maybe, theres a song on this page.

http://www.nuclearblastusa.com/download.html
Yeah, I'd call it grindcore, although I don't think they're that great by the sound of that track, still grindcore.

[whiteminority]

I can't find the link. Argh. I'll have to ask my friend.
Hey retired tell that friend of yours that has the Pig Destroyer/Orchid split to burn it and give it to you so you can then post it here so we can all share in its majesty of killer grind and screamo.

[whiteminority]

:thumb:

oh and something to browse for some good tunes:
http://www.geocities.com/greenplasticgrass

great archive for crust and anarcho and some thrash mp3s. enjoy!
this site is amazing Cheerleaders of the Apocalypse are awesome.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, I'll ask him for that split, that's probably the best split I've ever heard. Not one filler on the thing.

[whiteminority]

Yeah, I'll ask him for that split, that's probably the best split I've ever heard. Not one filler on the thing.
If you get it I will love you... :naughty:

[RetiredAt21]

Ben, you so naughty, hahaha.

[ImALoser]

2deadsluts 1good****
Agoraphobic Nosebleed
Pg 99
**** on the Beach
pig destroyer
the number 12 looks like you

[RetiredAt21]

You like good bands, but I'm not really a huge fan of the Number 12 that much anymore. They're aright though.

[whiteminority]

2deadsluts 1good****
Agoraphobic Nosebleed
Pg 99
**** on the Beach
pig destroyer
the number 12 looks like you
i would call pg. 99 and the number 12 screamo much more than i would say grind.

[RetiredAt21]

Still, Pg. 99 are awesome. You really think the Number 12 are screamo?

[Scabies]

anyone a fan of crucial unit? Their song titles are awesome.

[RetiredAt21]

I like me some Crucial Unit.

[Feel The Darkness]

anyone a fan of crucial unit? Their song titles are awesome.
ALL OF YE BOW DOWN TO THE TEABAG GOD!


ahahaha, great band.

[sirTHRASH]

i just got into grind a while agothanks to a friend and the first bands i started with are extreme hate and anal c.unt, i have some music by pig destroyer,Napalm death,Agoraphobic Nosebleed,Combat wounded vet, and carcass, but i need more, meaning other good grind bands. If you know crust bands that dont suck that would help a lot,and if u like crust check out severed head of state and hellshock, if i knew how to upload stuff for you people i would but i suck.

[Feel The Darkness]

i just got into grind a while agothanks to a friend and the first bands i started with are extreme hate and anal c.unt, i have some music by pig destroyer,Napalm death,Agoraphobic Nosebleed,Combat wounded vet, and carcass, but i need more, meaning other good grind bands. If you know crust bands that dont suck that would help a lot,and if u like crust check out severed head of state and hellshock, if i knew how to upload stuff for you people i would but i suck.
I'm actually good friends with some of the guys from Severed Head of State/World Burns To Death, and I saw Hellshock last month in Austin at the Chaos in Tejas fest. As for crust bands, check out my crust band list: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211847

...and for some good grind to check out, get some Phobia and some Nasum. :thumb:

[RetiredAt21]

Listen to JAtomic, he knows what he's talking about.

[Feel The Darkness]

UPDATED*

Added about 8 er so more bands to the list, eventually I'll get to work adding YSI links and websites and what not.

but we need more people posting bands!

[Feel The Darkness]

Listen to JAtomic, he knows what he's talking about.
:cool:

...but yea, I'm friends with some of the guys from Severed Head of State/World Burns To Death, unfortunately, I've yet to see Severed live, though I've seen WB2D several times. Really great live band, they have tons of energy on stage. They were also supposed to play the TX dates for the Poison Idea tour, but some **** happened, and they weren't put on the show.

[RetiredAt21]

I haven't heard any SHoS or WBtD, but I'd like to. Do you have any links to their songs JAtomic?

[Gnarmageddon]

I've been listening to pretty much nothing but grind lately.

Anal Cunt
Pig Destroyer
Napalm Death
Assuck
Swallowing ****
Spazz

[Feel The Darkness]

I haven't heard any SHoS or WBtD, but I'd like to. Do you have any links to their songs JAtomic?
The GPG Archive has 2 songs form each band, here're the links:
Severed Head Of State - Funeral Urn (http://www.hardcoreholocaust.com/HTMLobj-8548/FuneralUrn.mp3)
Severed Head Of State - Nothing Left To Believe In (http://www.hardcoreholocaust.com/HTMLobj-8323/SeveredheadOS.mp3)
World Burns To Death - Fall On Your Sword (http://www.hardcoreholocaust.com/HTMLobj-7271/fallonyoursword.mp3)
World Burns To Death - The Dead Sing This Hymn (http://www.hardcoreholocaust.com/HTMLobj-8547/THEDEADSINGTHISHYMN.mp3)

...and if ye enjoy those tracks, just ask, and I'll YSI some albums. :thumb:

[sopborste]

Totalt Jävla Mörker ( have a listen: http://www.totaltjavlamorker.com/mp3/tjm-mrv-01-rasist_i_uniform.mp3 - theyre Swedens best crust band)

Kontrovers

[Bruce_Forsyth]

Forca Macabra??? Not really sure, they may be a bit more thrashy, but saw them playing with extinction of mankind so...?
http://www.forcamacbra.com tho it wasnt working when i tried it...sorry
http://www.nofashionhc.com/mp3.htm -think theres an mp3 on here

[MILF Hunter]

nice to see you..

[Scabies]

nice to see you..


Its been done you silly ****.

[MILF Hunter]

:lol: :upset:

[RetiredAt21]

Thanks a bunc JAtomic, these songs are awesome, I can't believe what I've been missing out on.

[MILF Hunter]

They ****ing rule J

[hookers_with_herpes]

If you haven't been listening to Severed Head of State, you've definitely been missing out.

COP ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hookers_with_herpes]

Not everything on the original list is crust, but regardless, I love tons of those bands, particularly Wolfbrigade/wolfpack, Aus Rotten/BEL, Civil Disobedience, Tragedy/HHIG, amebix, Chaos uk, misery & extinction of mankind (apocalyptic crust is killer!), rambo

[RetiredAt21]

What about Everyone I Know Must Die? They are crust aren't they? Shouldn't they be on the list?

[RetiredAt21]

I can't believe I've been missing out on them for so long. I'm ashamed. :(

[sirTHRASH]

I'm actually good friends with some of the guys from Severed Head of State/World Burns To Death, and I saw Hellshock last month in Austin at the Chaos in Tejas fest. As for crust bands, check out my crust band list: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211847

...and for some good grind to check out, get some Phobia and some Nasum. :thumb:
world burns to death ownz

[ROT]

whatthe **** is the difference between crust and anarcho
haha
you guys are crazy

[Gnarmageddon]

The GPG Archive has 2 songs form each band, here're the links:
Severed Head Of State - Funeral Urn (http://www.hardcoreholocaust.com/HTMLobj-8548/FuneralUrn.mp3)
Severed Head Of State - Nothing Left To Believe In (http://www.hardcoreholocaust.com/HTMLobj-8323/SeveredheadOS.mp3)
World Burns To Death - Fall On Your Sword (http://www.hardcoreholocaust.com/HTMLobj-7271/fallonyoursword.mp3)
World Burns To Death - The Dead Sing This Hymn (http://www.hardcoreholocaust.com/HTMLobj-8547/THEDEADSINGTHISHYMN.mp3)

...and if ye enjoy those tracks, just ask, and I'll YSI some albums. :thumb:
I'm going to ask for some albums. :)

[RetiredAt21]

There's a huge difference. Anarcho is just music with anarchist lyrics. It doesn't have to be punk. Crust, on the other hand, is pretty much punk, but heavier.

[RetiredAt21]

Yes, some albums would be awesome.

[Feel The Darkness]

Will do, I'll have some albums uploaded soon.

[Feel The Darkness]

Totalt Jävla Mörker ( have a listen: http://www.totaltjavlamorker.com/mp3/tjm-mrv-01-rasist_i_uniform.mp3 - theyre Swedens best crust band)

Kontrovers
I'll check 'em out when I get a chance.

Forca Macabra??? Not really sure, they may be a bit more thrashy, but saw them playing with extinction of mankind so...?
http://www.forcamacbra.com tho it wasnt working when i tried it...sorry
http://www.nofashionhc.com/mp3.htm -think theres an mp3 on here
I'd add 'em, more thrashy than other bands, but they work fine for this list. Oh, and ye just fergot the 2nd 'a' in Macabra in the link, thus the link doesn't work. Here's a working link: http://www.forcamacabra.com

What about Everyone I Know Must Die? They are crust aren't they? Shouldn't they be on the list?
Haven't heard, linkage?

Not everything on the original list is crust, but regardless, I love tons of those bands, particularly Wolfbrigade/wolfpack, Aus Rotten/BEL, Civil Disobedience, Tragedy/HHIG, amebix, Chaos uk, misery & extinction of mankind (apocalyptic crust is killer!), rambo
Yeah, some aren't exactly crust, although they have an obvious crust influence, thus most crust fans would/do like em. Such as R.A.M.B.O., they're hardcore as ****, yet they have a crust influence.

whatthe **** is the difference between crust and anarcho
haha
you guys are crazy
Crust, as explained prior in the thread, had ye known if ye read the whole thing, is "apocalyptic hardcore", as I've heard be called. Think hardcore with a tinge of metal and, usually, growling vocals. Lyrics will range from political to social topics, and alot of talk of war.

[whiteminority]

Still, Pg. 99 are awesome. You really think the Number 12 are screamo?
Yeah I definately feel they are screamo though it can be tough to discern the screamo from the grind they have sometimes.

[RetiredAt21]

I haven't payed attention to their lyrics, so their screamo-ness could have very well eluded me.

[RetiredAt21]

I'm pretty sure Everyone I Know Must Die have a purevolume or something like that. I'll check.

[AA-12]

Will do, I'll have some albums uploaded soon.
Awesome, I can't wait.

[RetiredAt21]

I can't wait either. I really want to hear more of their stuff.

[Feel The Darkness]

hahaha, good thing I looked in here, I had already forgotten to upload some albums...

Severed Head of State - An Invitation to Beheading and Anathema Devices LP Loading...

World Burns to Death - The Art of Self Destruction EP and The Sucking of the Missile **** LP Loading...

...and if ye still want some more, I got several SHoS EPs I can upload, but i'll leave those to request. Though i highly doubt anyone would deny such an offer. :lol:

[RetiredAt21]

Luscious, thank you JAtomic.

[Feel The Darkness]

Luscious, thank you JAtomic.
Man, what's with the whole name thing? Just call me J. haha

...anyways, the Severed Head of State albums have finished uploading, so here ye go:

An Invitation to Beheading - xxxhttp://s60.yousendit.com/d.php?id=2B3ZR2KE9Q80K2TE23TBXAJ280

Anathema Device - xxxhttp://s60.yousendit.com/d.php?id=18M5RGFAEQO0S359LKHN8DSKK4

I'll post the links to the WB2D albums when they finish uploading. :thumb:

[Toe Rag]

Does anyone listen to Burnt by the Sun? Dave Witte's in it...:|

http://batinabox.com/music/lol%20afi/05-burnt_by_the_sun_-_180_proof-qtxmp3.mp3

[RetiredAt21]

Thank you much J. These albums are awesome.

[Feel The Darkness]

Thank you much J. These albums are awesome.
No problem, the WB2D albums don't seem to want to finish loading, but when they do, I'll post em here. Oh, and I should have the new Municipal Waste album linked in the thrash thread soon. :thumb:

[RetiredAt21]

Sweet. I haven't really heard much MW, but what I've heard, I like.

[antimilklogan]

I SAW CROTCHDUSTER WAY BACK THERE THEY ARE AWESOME!!!!

nice my friend.

[antimilklogan]

The guys from CrotchDuster have a serious band called Capharnaum, I like them a lot.

Crotchduster makes fun of every kind of music, and does it very well... I like the hate mail.

[RetiredAt21]

Finally, someone else knows about Crotchduster. I wanna hear some Capharnaum.

[Gnarmageddon]

SHoS is awesome. :thumb:

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah they are. Those albums are awesome.

[J_McMeaty]

I have I Cant Believe Its Not Grindcore Volume 1. 71 tacks of pure grind shittyness.

[Gnarmageddon]

I have I Cant Believe Its Not Grindcore Volume 1. 71 tacks of pure grind shittyness.
Upload please.

[J_McMeaty]

My internet blows, if you want it and have Slsk message J_McMeaty and Ill add you.

[Billy]

Basically the only grind I'm into right now is Napalm Death and The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza. I got to get into more.

[Feel The Darkness]

Basically the only grind I'm into right now is Napalm Death and The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza. I got to get into more.
Phobia

[MILF Hunter]

The Chaos Uk tracks they did for the ENT split are so crusty, I love it

[Gnarmageddon]

Phobia
Yes. And Assuck too, if he likes Napalm Death.

And TDTE isn't grind, are they? :confused: I thought they were hardcore.

[Feel The Darkness]

The Chaos Uk tracks they did for the ENT split are so crusty, I love it
:thumb:

haha, I remember, before I had started listening to crust and all, this guy that I'd see at shows here and there went up to me one day and asked if I wanted to be in a band, and it was going to be crusty grind kind of stuff, and he brought up ENT...I'm pretty sure that's why I looked into crust and grind to begin with, thus I thank him, Regurgitate (his name).

...what's even funnier is that since then and now, I now listen to more crust than he's even heard, but then again I have access to a computer, and he thinks phones are a government conspiracy. :lol:

[Feel The Darkness]

Yes. And Assuck too, if he likes Napalm Death.

And TDTE isn't grind, are they? :confused: I thought they were hardcore.
yes, and Assuck too, although I haven't heard TDTE, thus I wouldn't be able to say.

[MILF Hunter]

Has anybody heard of the band 'Decontrol'? They rule

[Scabies]

Theyre meh

[Feel The Darkness]

Has anybody heard of the band 'Decontrol'? They rule
Can't say that I have. The name rings a bell, but I haven't heard 'em. Linkage?

[MILF Hunter]

I got some on soulseek. Thats it im afraid, and the name probbaly rings a bell cos its a Discharge song :cool:

[Bruce_Forsyth]

I'd add 'em, more thrashy than other bands, but they work fine for this list. Oh, and ye just fergot the 2nd 'a' in Macabra in the link, thus the link doesn't work. Here's a working link: http://www.forcamacabra.com


oops, i cant type, the arthritis you see me being old and the such :upset:

[SactoUnited]

Does anybody want to send me some Nausea?

[Feel The Darkness]

oops, i cant type, the arthritis you see me being old and the such :upset:
haha, s'aight

Does anybody want to send me some Nausea?
If ye got slsk, ye can get some off of me, otherwise I'll upload some later on.

[antimilklogan]

Definately check them out, their CD fractured is great.

[MILF Hunter]

http://freewebhosting.hostdepartment.com/d/decontrol/sounds.html

Theres some Decontrol

[Bruce_Forsyth]

For anyone who wants, this site has loads of doom songs to dl...........

http://smux.net/files/doom_songs/

[Gnarmageddon]

Just remembered these guys. Check out Destroyer Destroyer (http://www.myspace.com/destroyerdestroyer) and The Mystery Of John Ashcroft. (http://www.myspace.com/themysteryofjohnashcroft)

[RetiredAt21]

Those are pretty good. TMOJA was very...interesting.

[RetiredAt21]

Thanks buddy.

[whiteminority]

Can someone send me some spazz stuff besides the Locust? I want to know if there are anyone out there remotely like the Locust.

aim= HalighEyesBright

[RetiredAt21]

Holy Molar. Not QUITE as spazzy, but still, they sound ALOT alike.

[Gnarmageddon]

Can someone send me some spazz stuff besides the Locust? I want to know if there are anyone out there remotely like the Locust.

aim= HalighEyesBright
If YSI works for you, then...

Daughters - Canada Songs (http://s65.yousendit.com/d.php?id=1H5PQCI5RUKG8C2A7Z1FV1SOC)
Daughters - S/T (http://s65.yousendit.com/d.php?id=I9ZYJPW519W839FX31XUSB8K4)

If not, then IM me and I'll send them to you. AIM = allofmeoliveme.

[MILF Hunter]

Crude SS rule I have just learned

[RetiredAt21]

Ah, I forgot all about Daughters.

[Feel The Darkness]

Crude SS rule I have just learned
Well DUUUUUUHHHHH!

...but they do indeed rule. :thumb:

[Feel The Darkness]

I never got into any of those "spazz" bands, as a matter of fact...I think they suck. HAH...but that's just me.

[RetiredAt21]

Spazz bands are alright for awhile, but they get old real quick, for me at least.

[conniption]

Holy Molar. Not QUITE as spazzy, but still, they sound ALOT alike.

i think Holy Molar is the same band as the locust or something, i could be wrong, but i thought i heard it somewhere...



Pig Destroyer is my favorite grind band.

[RetiredAt21]

Holy Molar aren't EXACTLY the same as the Locust, but close enough really.

[Gnarmageddon]

Same with Daughters. They pretty much sound like The Locust without the synth.

[RetiredAt21]

The thing with Daughters though is, they TRY to make their guitars sound like a synth/keyboard.

[Converge#12]

I like what I've heard from Holy Molar better than locust. I have all of The locust's stuff and 2 Holy Molar songs and I like the Holy Molar stuff better for some reason.

[RetiredAt21]

I dunno which I like better. I often confuse them, so I like them both the same I guess.

[Scabies]

Guess whos watching a Disclose show right noww.

[MILF Hunter]

ah you ****. show me

[awakenbyterror]

uh, sawtooth grin and stuff

[Street_TraSSh]

I know we have plenty of crust fans in the punk forum, but how many grind fans do we have? I'd like to start some good discussion about grind/crust, your favorite bands, etc.

Some of my favorites are:

Everyone I Know Must Die
Cluster Bomb Unit
Cripple Bastards
Agoraphobic Nosebleed
Pig Destroyer
Bodies In The Gears Of The Apparatus
PETA Is At The Door And I'm Holding A Gun To The Cat's Head
Vincent Price's Orphan Powered Death Machine

OK where are the roots of crust music?
Some info,bands,labels???

I want to see the light! :rolleyes:

[full collapse]

Woah, i've been gone during this whole discussion and I don't feel like reading all of it.

My favorite grind band, ED GEIN!

[Street_TraSSh]

well i saw Meg make a topic for Anarcho Bands, so ima make one for Crust bands...

Accion Mutante
All Is Suffering
Amebix
Anarcrust
Another Oppressive System
Anti-Product
Armagedom
Asschapel
Assembly of God
Atrocious Madness
Aus-Rotten
Autoritär
Avskum
Axe Grinder
Battle of Disarm
Behind Enemy Lines
Bread and Water
Bread Lines At Gunpoint
Caustic Christ*
Chaos UK*
Christdriver
Civil Disobedience
Cluster Bomb Unit*
Code 13
Crimenes De Guerra
Cripple Bastards (crust/grind)
Crude SS
Damage Deposit*
Deformed Conscience
Desobediencia Civil
Destroy
Disrupt
Dissected Human Brains
Doom
Dropdead
Dystopia
Excrement of War
Extinction of Mankind
Extreme Noise Terror
From Ashes Rise*
Garmonbozia
Greed
Hellnation
Hellshock
Hiatus
His Hero Is Gone*
Humanicide
Jesus Chrust
Karst
Kylesa
Leveling, The
Massgrave
Masskontroll
Misery
Nausea
PrÄparation-H
R.A.M.B.O.*
Resist and Exist
Skitsystem
State of Fear
TerroRhythm
Totalitar
Toxic Narcotic
Tragedy*
Warcollapse
Warcry
Warfair?
Wolfbrigade (Wolfpack)
World Burns To Death
Zoe

*explained in rest of thread

if there're bands you dont think are Crust, or if you know some i don't, let me know... :thumb:

...i know there are more...

Don't mix crust with anarcho-punk or chaos-punk

Intruders in the list are: Aus-Rotten and Chaos UK

And Disorder isn't on the list. :confused:

[Berserker!]

Put The Power And The Glory on there

[MILF Hunter]

Disorder aint crust mate

[Street_TraSSh]

Disorder aint crust mate

Ok, you know it.

Listen to their albums, it's a crust punk.

[Scabies]

Ok, you know it.

Listen to their albums, it's a crust punk.


Is english your first language?

[Berserker!]

He's Croatian.

[Street_TraSSh]

Is english your first language?


No it isn't.I'm from Croatia.Is that somekind of problem.

[Berserker!]

Shut Up

[Scabies]

No it isn't.I'm from Croatia.Is that somekind of problem.


Nah, i was just curious coz yer grammar aint exactly perfect. cant be helped though i s'pose.

[Street_TraSSh]

Shut Up

Kiss my ***!!!

[Berserker!]

Choo choo. Here comes the banning train.

[RetiredAt21]

Why would he get banned? He didn't do anything.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, Ed Gein are pretty good.

[full collapse]

they are alot more then good mister

[Feel The Darkness]

All of ye shut up, yer ruining this thread. haha, although thanks for bumping it.

Don't mix crust with anarcho-punk or chaos-punk

Intruders in the list are: Aus-Rotten and Chaos UK

And Disorder isn't on the list. :confused:
Anyways, Aus-Rotten is explained in the thread, which I noticed ye didn't read. Chaos UK had their crust punk moment, and if I remember right, oh wait, that was already explained in the thread too.

Word to the wise, read entire threads before posting in 'em.

Put The Power And The Glory on there
Linkage?

[nobody's hero999]

This may sound dumb, but whats crust. I no STZA said that they put crust into CV's sound. So what is it?

[Feel The Darkness]

This may sound dumb, but whats crust. I no STZA said that they put crust into CV's sound. So what is it?
Crust. The dirtiest of the **** pile known as punk.
Crust has always been, for the most part, one of the more unknown
sub-genres of punk. It, majority of the time, consists of: heavy
guitar, growling vocals, blast beats or similar drum beats. The
lyrical stylings of crust have generally been known to be about social
issues, war crimes, various political agendas and for the most part,
in support of Anarchism. I have summed it up to being anarcho-punk
blended with hardcore and with a smidge of metal. Some better known
crust bands include: Doom, Dropdead and Misery. Although some bands
borderline with being properly labeled, either anarcho or crust, such
as Aus-Rotten. My personal recommendations would be: Warcollapse,
Avskum, Behind Enemy Lines, hell, i'd recommend almost any crust band.
...and there ye have it.

:wave:

[RetiredAt21]

Well, the reason I called them good, is because I know bands out there that totally blow Ed Gein away, I still like them though.

[RetiredAt21]

Nicely put.

[Brain Toad]

Swallowing S'hit is probably my favourite grind band.

[Street_TraSSh]

OK, crust related bands.

If Chaos UK is here Discharge and the Varukers are missing (A major influence on hc/crust/punk scene).

[Feel The Darkness]

OK, crust related bands.

If Chaos UK is here Discharge and the Varukers are missing (A major influence on hc/crust/punk scene).
That influence card's been pulled alot recently, and I've said it once, and I'll say it again; just because a band influences later bands, doesn't mean they're part of that later genre. Discharge is d-beat, and I would consider adding 'em to the list, as I do have a few d-beat bands on there. Although the Varukers are street punk, no way around that, sorry. As much as I love that band, I wouldn't put 'em on a crust list simply because they influenced crust bands.

[DFelon204409]

There is a sick crust radio show on Saturday afternoons on Stanford college radio I think. I love cruising around and scaring suburbanites to music I normally never listen to.

[Feel The Darkness]

There is a sick crust radio show on Saturday afternoons on Stanford college radio I think. I love cruising around and scaring suburbanites to music I normally never listen to.
Hahahaha. Awesome! Though for that, Grind or Black Metal would do the best work. :thumb:

[AntiPoliceAggro]

Hahahaha. Awesome! Though for that, Grind or Black Metal would do the best work. :thumb:
Civil Defense Warning sirens ("Air Raid" sirens or "Tornado" sirens) repeated loudly through an expensive (or stolen..) car stereo system in densely populated areas are much more fun (yet much more likely to get you locked up.).
Yeah you know those sirens that go off every first saturday of the month around noon (USA)... those. That can really wad some skivvies up on the right day.

who was that kid that wanted nausea again? i can give you some.

[MILF Hunter]

OK, crust related bands.

If Chaos UK is here Discharge and the Varukers are missing (A major influence on hc/crust/punk scene).


Listen to the early Chaos Uk singles. Obviously street punk.
Listen to the split they did with Extreme noise terror. Obviously Crust.

[Street_TraSSh]

Listen to the early Chaos Uk singles. Obviously street punk.
Listen to the split they did with Extreme noise terror. Obviously Crust.

You always have to put up bands in different genres.I heard their early singles and their whole discography.They play chaotic music yes,it's punk.

But you can call it whatever you like,even Bristol punk.

[evildemonlemurs]

Napalm death (You Suffer is one of the best songs ever)
early Carcass
i don't listen to grind that much except for when im with one of my friends. but we usually listen to it as a joke because most grind bands are really funny. like one did a song called "Ode to Ramen".
the only crust i like is aus rotten, although most people hate them. i just like their music though because they had some pretty cool guitar parts.

[RetiredAt21]

My favorite grind band is probably xVPOPDMx.

[full collapse]

Well, the reason I called them good, is because I know bands out there that totally blow Ed Gein away, I still like them though.

who?
i would like to hear these bands

[panasonic youth]

Go listen to some leng tche. Very good grindcore band. And alabama thunderpussy are an awesome sludge metal band from what i've heard. I should look into them more....

[panasonic youth]

Go listen to some leng tche. Very good grindcore band. And alabama thunderpussy are an awesome sludge metal band from what i've heard. I should look into them more....

[Arrakakaka]

Hmm..

Grindcore

Napalm Death
Discordance Axis
Pig Destroyer
Assück
Swallowing ****
Agoraphobic Nosebleed
The Daughters
Phobia
The Locust

Crust

Hiatus
Warcollapse
Masskontroll

And others..

[[\/]XkN-GrNdBlStRKlR]

hi am a mexican metalhead who loves to hear all the grindcore good ****,and i just saw your forum and i thought its really kool!,so...could i get into your discussion about who rocks and who not???

[[\/]XkN-GrNdBlStRKlR]

my favorite grindcore bands are.-

anal blast
anal ****
the excrementory grind****ers
doom
****...im dead
etc
and napalm deaht of course

about crust i dont know too much bands about that style just basics Los crudos ja and from power violence blood duster

[Cyco_Vision]

Anal this, anal that. We need an anal-core.

[Arrakakaka]

Anal this, anal that. We need an anal-core.
Hmm.. Well there is P0rnogrind :lol:

Stupid MX filter won't let me say..

[Feel The Darkness]

XkN-GrNdBlStRKlR']hi am a mexican metalhead who loves to hear all the grindcore good ****,and i just saw your forum and i thought its really kool!,so...could i get into your discussion about who rocks and who not???
XkN-GrNdBlStRKlR']my favorite grindcore bands are.-

anal blast
anal ****
the excrementory grind****ers
doom
****...im dead
etc
and napalm deaht of course

about crust i dont know too much bands about that style just basics Los crudos ja and from power violence blood duster
De donde en Mexico eres?, y Doom era crust.

haha, I hate typing in spanish, I can speak it fluently, but I can't stand typing it. anyways, yea Doom were crust, and Los Crudos are amazing.

Illegal y que? :thumb:

Hiatus
Warcollapse
Masskontroll
I see ye picked up those YSI links I posted :thumb:

[Solfactory]

Blood Brothers

[RetiredAt21]

Don't post in this thread anymore.

[Scabies]

Holy f'uck, how much does grave new world by Discharge suck?! I'd never bothered listening to it coz i stick witht he first two albums, but man is this bad.

[RetiredAt21]

I haven't heard it.

[whiteminority]

Blood Brothers
BURST INTO FLAMES! BURST INTO FLAMES!

[RetiredAt21]

Hahaha, I was thinking the same thing Ben.

[[\/]XkN-GrNdBlStRKlR]

De donde en Mexico eres?, y Doom era crust.

haha, I hate typing in spanish, I can speak it fluently, but I can't stand typing it. anyways, yea Doom were crust, and Los Crudos are amazing.

Illegal y que? :thumb:


I see ye picked up those YSI links I posted :thumb:

jaja im from monterrey,nuevo leon.Huh man i dont think doom was crust,yeah they have the political lyrics and all,but the voice is gutural,if it were natural like los crudos then they would been crust.its like the front if SCUM,they have all those crap pictures about macdonallds and all that ****,but that doesnt mean its crust,je i dont know why dont they just put a ****in message "we play grind/crust so dont create discussions". :thumb:

[[\/]XkN-GrNdBlStRKlR]

Anal this, anal that. We need an anal-core.

haha yeah,im kinda sick of alucinate anal **** everywhere too,but the songs are just too ****ing funny.By the way anybody knows where i can get some Impaled Northern Moonforest or Vincent Price Orphan Powered Death Machine songs??i just kant get with them :upset:

[Arrakakaka]

I see ye picked up those YSI links I posted :thumb:
Yes I did :D

[Arrakakaka]

XkN-GrNdBlStRKlR']haha yeah,im kinda sick of alucinate anal **** everywhere too,but the songs are just too ****ing funny.By the way anybody knows where i can get some Impaled Northern Moonforest or Vincent Price Orphan Powered Death Machine songs??i just kant get with them :upset:
Download Limewire. It sucks, but you can get some rare stuff.

[Feel The Darkness]

Yes I did :D
haha, awesome, well if ye ever want some cds, just hit me up on slsk, J_Atomic

:thumb:

[Lord Zerpent]

XkN-GrNdBlStRKlR']anybody knows where i can get some Impaled Northern Moonforest songs??

Here, have all of them.

http://inm.necrobation.org/

Wow, I'm posting in the punk forum. It smells kinda funny in here. :p

/was attracted by the grind thread

[anarchoi boi]

hey i found a pig destroyer cd in hot topic. did they pull a napalm and go metal or was i seeing things?

[RetiredAt21]

Impaled Northern Moonforest is hilarious.

As far as I know, Pig Destroyer are still grind.

[Badreligiondude]

I like Swallowing ****. ****... I'm Dead are pretty good too.




nice avatar

[anarchoi boi]

ok isnt ENT grind? and wat happend to crucifix, violent society, and orchid.
also wat would u guys consider propagandhi and zounds?

[RetiredAt21]

I definitely wouldn't call them crust.

[RetiredAt21]

F'uck...I'm Dead are pretty good. I don't think I've heard any Swallowing S'hit though.

[Scabies]

ok isnt ENT grind? and wat happend to crucifix, violent society, and orchid.
also wat would u guys consider propagandhi and zounds?


ENT isn't grind.
Orchid is screamo.
Zounds is anarcho.
Propaghandi arnt crust.

[whiteminority]

F'uck...I'm Dead are pretty good.
INJECT ME WITH AIDS!!!

[Street_TraSSh]

If Varukers are street punk what genre is their album How do you sleep???

Casualties are glue punk if you follow that logic.

[Feel The Darkness]

ENT isn't grind.
Orchid is screamo.
Zounds is anarcho.
Propaghandi arnt crust.
People have said that ENT were crustgrind, but I just stick to calling 'em crust.

If Varukers are street punk what genre is their album How do you sleep???

Casualties are glue punk if you follow that logic.
Varukers are street punk, through and through. I've heard majority of their albums, including that one, and never have I even considered the thought of calling 'em crust. Sorry mang, but unless alot more people agree with ye on that, I won't consider. I mean c'mon, they were one of the pioneers of street punk.

Oh, and the Casualties just, plain-out, suck. :wave:

[RetiredAt21]

Hahahahaha.

[RetiredAt21]

I just heard some Swallowing S'hit. They are pretty good.

[whiteminority]

Why do grind bands feel the need to have vulgar names? It's starting to get annoying.

[Lord Zerpent]

Because grind is extremity, and alot of it is about pissing people off, or disgusting them.

[RetiredAt21]

Not all grind is like that. Brutal Truth is a good example. Awesome band, but it doesn't rely on a crazy vulgar name or vulgar lyrics to get attention.