In Grind We Crust

[clustifux]

anyone heard of Filth? Not the punk band from california but the grind band. I accidentyl stumbled accross their stuff while downloadin the **** split a while back.

[RetiredAt21]

I'm into lots of black metal bands. Some of the bands I like are:

1349
Darkthrone
Ulver
Craft
Graveland
Burzum
Mayhem
Vlad Tepes
Summoning
and many many more...

If any of you guys are wanting to get into black metal, bands I'd start out with are 1349, Darkthrone, Craft, and possibly Ulver.

[RetiredAt21]

I'm listening to RAMBO for the first time not on a split, and they are much better on full length than split. Like, a lot better, I actually like them. Do they have a different vocalist on their split with Caustic Christ, or is he just better on Bring It!?

I actually prefer the stuff on the splits a smidge more...

[Subvert_bassist]

anyone heard of Filth? Not the punk band from california but the grind band. I accidentyl stumbled accross their stuff while downloadin the **** split a while back.
Yeah dude, that Filth is rad, too.

[Gnarmageddon]

Vital Remains
Vornagar
Necrophagist
Deicide

[whiteminority]

Subvert, good stuff, REAL good stuff.

I was just wondering, are any of you guys into black metal? Besides grind and hardcore, it's my favorite genre of music. I'd just like to know if anyone else is into black metal, besides me.
Emperor
Mayhem
Marduk
Burzum
Dissection
Darkthrone
Dark Funeral

trve kvlt



ENTHRONE DARKNESS TRIUMPHANT!

[RetiredAt21]

Vital Remains
Vornagar
Necrophagist
Deicide

Great bands, especially Vornagar and Deicide.

[Gnarmageddon]

Great bands, especially Vornagar and Deicide.
I was listening to Deicide today in study hall.

I'm not a huge fan of black metal, but I love death metal.

[RetiredAt21]

Do you like any black metal at all?

[Gnarmageddon]

Eh, I've never really given it a chance I guess. I've only heard some Burzum, Emperor, and Mayhem and it didn't appeal to me very much.

[Gnarmageddon]

Wait, are Nile black metal? Because I loves me some Nile.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I always thought Nile was death. I just got done listening to Annihilation of the Wicked, what a sweet album.

[Gnarmageddon]

I'm listening to In Their Darkest Shrines right now. It rules.

What's the difference between black and death?

[NewKindofArmy03]

I'm not an expert, but I think death metal is more technical and has cleaner production whereas black metal is raw and simpler than death metal. I'm not sure about this one, but typically in death metal the vocalists growl while in black metal, they have high pitched vocals. I'm bad at explaining, it's easy to tell the difference when you listen to the two though.

[whiteminority]

Wait, are Nile black metal? Because I loves me some Nile.
Nile is death metal.

[whiteminority]

I'm listening to In Their Darkest Shrines right now. It rules.

What's the difference between black and death?
Death metal is more of an expansion of thrash metal just with a bunch of brutality and a purge of rock from its bloodstream. Black metal was conglomeration of original black metal (venom, bathory, slayer, hellhammer, etc.) with a need for evil to be presented. Musically black metal is more straight forward while death metal is more complicated.

[Brain Toad]

I like Impaled Nazarene and Macabre, not sure what either are, but that's the extent of my death/black metal listening

[DaveToopes]

Nick check out Vital Remains and Vornagar.

[whiteminority]

I like Impaled Nazarene and Macabre, not sure what either are, but that's the extent of my death/black metal listening
Go listen to Atheist and Cynic now.

[RetiredAt21]

I don't really know much about death metal, but I know lots about black metal. Black metal is always full of tremelo picking, blastbeats, and usually high(ish) pitch screams. The lyrics stick to the subjects of fantasy, Satan, being anti-Christian, Paganism, and hate. Some NSBM bands even have racist lyrics in their music, that's the kind of stuff I don't go for.

[cbmartinez]

I always thought Black Metal was less heavy and more about creating at atmosphere through the use of synth/keys. Nevertheless, Dimmu Borgir rule.

[clustifux]

Rambo is all around good. I think "If Our Leaders Are Imptent Only The People Can Rise" Is by far my favorite song(as of right now)

[Subvert_bassist]

I just got back from the Ed Gein/Number 12 Looks Like You show. Whoever told me that TN12LLY was bad live was insane. They were intense, I love it. Ed Gein was awesome, too.

[Subvert_bassist]

Dude, it's all about "The War On Self-Esteem".

[Gnarmageddon]

I'm not an expert, but I think death metal is more technical and has cleaner production whereas black metal is raw and simpler than death metal. I'm not sure about this one, but typically in death metal the vocalists growl while in black metal, they have high pitched vocals. I'm bad at explaining, it's easy to tell the difference when you listen to the two though.
Death metal is more of an expansion of thrash metal just with a bunch of brutality and a purge of rock from its bloodstream. Black metal was conglomeration of original black metal (venom, bathory, slayer, hellhammer, etc.) with a need for evil to be presented. Musically black metal is more straight forward while death metal is more complicated.
Ah, thanks.

[whiteminority]

I always thought Black Metal was less heavy and more about creating at atmosphere through the use of synth/keys. Nevertheless, Dimmu Borgir rule.
That's more of the newer poppier bands. The OG BM bands didn't use keys that much if at all, exception being Burzum.

[RetiredAt21]

I always thought Black Metal was less heavy and more about creating at atmosphere through the use of synth/keys. Nevertheless, Dimmu Borgir rule.

You can create plenty of atmosphere without synth/keys. And female vocals. I personally don't like either of them, they have no place in black metal (for the most part). And Dimmu Borgir doesn't rule, listen to Craft.

SATANIC TERRORISM!

[RetiredAt21]

Dude, it's all about "The War On Self-Esteem".

tr00f, that song pwns all other songs in existence.

[whiteminority]

You can create plenty of atmosphere without synth/keys. And female vocals. I personally don't like either of them, they have no place in black metal (for the most part). And Dimmu Borgir doesn't rule, listen to Craft.

SATANIC TERRORISM!
Dude it depends on how the female vocals are used.

[Times Ten]

I finally bought a Nausea album. Pretty cool.

[NewKindofArmy03]

The best RAMBO songs are Wall of Death the System, Guinea Pig Pride, and the War on Self-Esteem.

[Fritz Plays Bass]

I prefer Wall Of Death The System and If Our Leaders Are Impotent.

Nausea is real ****ing good too.

[RetiredAt21]

Nausea is amazing.

[RetiredAt21]

Dude it depends on how the female vocals are used.

As of yet, I haven't heard any female vocals in black metal that were worth mentioning.

[Liebensaft]

I downloaded R.A.M.B.O., Municipal Waste, Bones Brigade, Nausea, and eventually Napalm Death tonight. Just to name some.

Bliss.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah man, it's hard to be dissapointed with any of those bands, they're all really good.

[Feel The Darkness]

I downloaded R.A.M.B.O., Municipal Waste, Bones Brigade, Nausea, and eventually Napalm Death tonight. Just to name some.

Bliss.
You're welcome. :wave:

[clustifux]

i love the Code red...long live the code album by napalm.. ive been listinin to it for a few days now to get ready for the up comming show.

Anyone have any Doom albums other than War Crimes?(if their are any others)

[Feel The Darkness]

Anyone have any Doom albums other than War Crimes?(if their are any others)
I have several discography type albums. Doomed from the Start, Total Doom, and **** Peaceville (which I think was an actual release).

[RetiredAt21]

I can't get into the new Napalm Death album, I don't like it all that much.

[Subvert_bassist]

Napalm is coming here in March with A Perfect Murder, Undying, Devastator, and Kreator, but I'm not going. Waaay too much money. I just can't put down $25 for a show.

However, Tragedy is tomorrow. Now that will be a sick show.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, I'm sure Tragedy will kick major a'ss.

[Times Ten]

I have almost every Doom album.

[Fritz Plays Bass]

I have a bitch of a time finding Doom albums. Anyone have any suggestions which album to get first?

[clustifux]

Ive been listinin to the discographies i got from J for the past few hours and they are all great.

[RetiredAt21]

I have a bitch of a time finding Doom albums. Anyone have any suggestions which album to get first?

I think they're all good, you can't really go wrong with Doom.

[Subvert_bassist]

My ride to Berkeley flaked, so I don't get to see Tragedy. Laaaaame.

[Feel The Darkness]

They'll go back. you have a better chance of seeing em often, then me over here in TX.

[RetiredAt21]

My ride to Berkeley flaked, so I don't get to see Tragedy. Laaaaame.

Aww dude, that sucks so bad.

[whiteminority]

what do you guys think of metal bands that adapt grindcore to their sound? primarily black metal bands that are known as war metal.

[AIRIC]

Andrew I think I'm probably going to TNTLLY show, but the only thing is that it's with Chiodos. Is it worth it?

[Subvert_bassist]

Yeah dude, I'd go. TNTLLY was soooooo intense live.

[RetiredAt21]

what do you guys think of metal bands that adapt grindcore to their sound? primarily black metal bands that are known as war metal.

Give me an example.

[Feel The Darkness]

Give me an example.
http://www.myspace.com/belligerency

TXWM

[Fritz Plays Bass]

What do people think of Ted Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza? They're playing an all day show in about a month, but most of the other bands are scene-y new age hardcore bands that I'm not all too interested in seeing. Is it worth going to see them?

[whiteminority]

What do people think of Ted Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza? They're playing an all day show in about a month, but most of the other bands are scene-y new age hardcore bands that I'm not all too interested in seeing. Is it worth going to see them?
Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza*

[whiteminority]

Give me an example.
Conqueror.

[Times Ten]

TDTDE is really overrated. I liked them for like a week.

[clustifux]

lame...uber lame. On a brighter note... Only 30 days till subhumans and Born/Dead. Going to be such a great show. haha.

[Fritz Plays Bass]

Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza*

I noticed that and one other mistake after posting and the edit function flaked out so I assumed people would get it, sorry. But yeah, I'm not sure sitting through an all day fest of bad new age hardcore and the Acacia Strain is worth seeing them...

[RetiredAt21]

I wanna hear some Conqueror, blackened grind seems like it would be the perfect kind of music for me.

[RetiredAt21]

Make sure your ride doesn't flake dude, hahaha.

Unless you drive, then you'll have no problem, unless your car dies.

[Theramed]

What do people think of Ted Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza? They're playing an all day show in about a month, but most of the other bands are scene-y new age hardcore bands that I'm not all too interested in seeing. Is it worth going to see them?

i think ithat i would go. why dont you just go later on if the other bands are a problem?

[RetiredAt21]

The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza is an ok band, nothing special though. How much does the show cost?

[Times Ten]

Born/Dead is so good.

[Subvert_bassist]

I've only seen them in Berkeley a few times, and when they play Berkeley, they don't have like any energy. They said they've that place so many times, it bores them. It's hard to talk to the guys from Born/Dead, though, because they're always so high.

Oh, and W/IFS is playing that show, too. It'll be fun as hell.

[NewKindofArmy03]

YES!!!! This rules, Terrorizer got added to the Electric Frankenstein/Resistant Culture/Mouth Sewn Shut/show my band is playing.

[ERG_M-107]

sry guys, im new here. What is Crust?

[Feel The Darkness]

YES!!!! This rules, Terrorizer got added to the Electric Frankenstein/Resistant Culture/Mouth Sewn Shut/show my band is playing.
HOLY ****! That's so awesome! My friend's grindcore band wants to cover After World Obliteration.

sry guys, im new here. What is Crust?
Welcome. Being that you're inquiring about crust, go check out the crust band list & discussion thread:
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211847

I have updated it with the description Andrew (Subvert_bassist) and I worked on for the Punk Forum Band List.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Yo Times Ten(Dan?), come out to that.
http://i1.tinypic.com/o85fes.jpg
And now TERRORIZER is added

[Times Ten]

(Yeah. Dan is my name.)

BSOM is really cool. I'd like to go but it is definatley not gonna work out with my schedule...

[Fritz Plays Bass]

The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza is an ok band, nothing special though. How much does the show cost?


8 Dollars.

[Gnarmageddon]

8 Dollars.
Go.

[AIRIC]

Skitsystem are so sweet.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Well this blows, supposedly there was a misunderstanding and Terrorizer isnt playing. I had a feeling thats what happened and I was told they were definately on. Mad people were coming when they heard that too.

[Feel The Darkness]

Well this blows, supposedly there was a misunderstanding and Terrorizer isnt playing. I had a feeling thats what happened and I was told they were definately on. Mad people were coming when they heard that too.
That sucks. I'd kill to see 'em.

[Fritz Plays Bass]

Skitsystem are so sweet.

They make me wet. I picked up Enkel Resa Till Rannstenen LP for $5, it's an amazing record.

[clustifux]

my CAR will be fine..haha.

I havent seen born/dead play yet but I have a feeling since they are playing with the Subhumans and WIFS, that (hopefully) They're gonna have a lot of energy. Either way its gonna be as awesome as racing wheel chairs threw an old folks home.

[Fritz Plays Bass]

I dunno if Civil Disobedience are really crust or if you lump them more with anarcho punk, they do sound a lot like Conflict to me, but their song Manufactured Citizens is so good I've just been repeating it all morning.

[RetiredAt21]

my CAR will be fine..haha.

I havent seen born/dead play yet but I have a feeling since they are playing with the Subhumans and WIFS, that (hopefully) They're gonna have a lot of energy. Either way its gonna be as awesome as racing wheel chairs threw an old folks home.

Hahahaha, that sounds awesome.

[RetiredAt21]

8 Dollars.

Then go, you'll have fun.

[Times Ten]

Skitsystem are so sweet.
Backed.

[Gnarmageddon]

Skitsystem = Grind?

Someone hook me up.

[Times Ten]

Skitsystem = crust.

http://www.skitsystem.net/

Mad mp3s.

[AIRIC]

They're awesome becaseu when their records start it just explodes.

[Gnarmageddon]

Holy s'hit, they rule.

[Gnarmageddon]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VMZMdJaMIMo

rofl

[bottlerocket]

^ Hahahaha, that's awesome.

-Gav

[Feel The Darkness]

AIM user, YourAlreadyDead3. Clustifux, I believe, I got a version of the logo done:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/J_Atomic/Relapsebw.jpg

[Lexluthor]

I cant listen to Grind music anymore without instantly thinking of...

http://www.myspace.com/ram****inghammer

(to get the url to work replace the stars with the obvious word.


Haha its a good observation.

[clustifux]

AIM user, YourAlreadyDead3. Clustifux, I believe, I got a version of the logo done:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/J_Atomic/Relapsebw.jpg

Dude...that looks ****in dope. Ittl look sweet on buttons and such. Oh and for all of you guys you all get free buttons when we get em. haha. Thanx J :chug: (Its evan by the way)

[Jawaharal]

The Pikachu Death Ray Explosion ftw

[Feel The Darkness]

Dude...that looks ****in dope. Ittl look sweet on buttons and such. Oh and for all of you guys you all get free buttons when we get em. haha. Thanx J :chug: (Its evan by the way)
haha, yeah, sorry Evan, i sometimes forget what SN's go with which poster.

Yeah, I like how it came out. I'll see what I can do about that other design, this weekend.

[clustifux]

haha, yeah, sorry Evan, i sometimes forget what SN's go with which poster.

Yeah, I like how it came out. I'll see what I can do about that other design, this weekend.

Sweet.

If anyoen else wants to make a logo for us feel free. haha. Were more focused on the music now than logo design. (Our name is Relapse www.myspace.com/relapsethrash) I know were not soppose to promote our band but eh... I know you guys wont get pissed.

[Subvert_bassist]

I already made you one, but J's logo in general is better. In mine, I didn't focus on the logo as much as I put a lot of work into that nutso background.

I haven't been around the past few days 'cuz my internet's been messin' up. And, news for you (but mostly Even): Our drummer's cast has come off, and we're already scheduling some more shows. One's comin' up April 7th with Rosenbombs and maybe Godstomper. Check around slsk and you can find both of them. Both quality thrash bands.

[RetiredAt21]

Godstomper rules.

[RetiredAt21]

What?

[clustifux]

where at?

(EVAN)

[Feel The Darkness]

Sweet.

If anyoen else wants to make a logo for us feel free. haha. Were more focused on the music now than logo design. (Our name is Relapse www.myspace.com/relapsethrash) I know were not soppose to promote our band but eh... I know you guys wont get pissed.
hah, nice try with inverting the colors, but paint sucks for saving jpg files. Here's a cleaner version:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/J_Atomic/Relapsebw2.jpg

Unless of course you wanted it with that pixelated look.

:lol:

[clustifux]

it wasnt intended to make it look distorted but it gave it sorta that nausea feel.. I was actually using PhotoImpressionPro. Its a piece of crap but oh well.

[Feel The Darkness]

it wasnt intended to make it look distorted but it gave it sorta that nausea feel.. I was actually using PhotoImpressionPro. Its a piece of crap but oh well.
haha, well yeah, the other one is up if you wanna use that instead. ge some stuff recorded soon. I wanna hear y'all.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah, hurry up, I wanna hear some stuff too.

[Subvert_bassist]

where at?

(EVAN)
Off the Grid, this squat house in downtown Sac.

[RetiredAt21]

I'd go, but, y'know, I'm on the other side of the country, hahahaha.

[clustifux]

Off the Grid, this squat house in downtown Sac.
Ive heard of Off the Grid, but i dont know where its at. Saturday Morning Powerviolence is a good album by Godstomper.

haha, well yeah, the other one is up if you wanna use that instead. ge some stuff recorded soon. I wanna hear y'all.

We're trying to find the equipment to do it, but we dont know anyone that has a laptop or a good computer. As soon as we get a few songs recorded ima post 'em.

[RetiredAt21]

You could probably just download a program off of Limewire or something like that...

[clustifux]

I have a few recording programs. (Reason, Magix and another) But i only have about 256kb left of free hard drive space. So i cant use my cpu.

[RetiredAt21]

Ooooh, that sucks.

[Subvert_bassist]

Hey Evan, if you can get the tracks to me, I can mix them for you. I mix all of both my bands' stuff.

[Times Ten]

I already made you one, but J's logo in general is better. In mine, I didn't focus on the logo as much as I put a lot of work into that nutso background.

I haven't been around the past few days 'cuz my internet's been messin' up. And, news for you (but mostly Even): Our drummer's cast has come off, and we're already scheduling some more shows. One's comin' up April 7th with Rosenbombs and maybe Godstomper. Check around slsk and you can find both of them. Both quality thrash bands.
Didn't think anyone else listened to The Rosenbombs except me. Good ****.

[Subvert_bassist]

They played the Super Sobata Fest at the Gilman a few months back with Cap Caz, Municipal Waste, Insect Warfare, and a bunch of others. Great show. They didn't use the stage; they played right on the floor.

[whiteminority]

whats the link to that site with all the grind/crust ****, J? its like greenplasticgrass or something.

[Feel The Darkness]

They played the Super Sabado Gigante Fest 2 at the Gilman a few months back with Cap Caz, Municipal Waste, Insect Warfare, and a bunch of others. Great show. They didn't use the stage; they played right on the floor.
I wish I could have made it for that.

[Feel The Darkness]

whats the link to that site with all the grind/crust ****, J? its like greenplasticgrass or something.
http://www.geocities.com/greenplasticgrass

:thumb:

[NewKindofArmy03]

The show last night was awesome. All of the bands were good, and Resistant Culture stole the show. They were so good.

[AIRIC]

I'm getting the Green Beret/Godstomper split 7" now. Anyone know if it's good?

[whiteminority]

http://www.geocities.com/greenplasticgrass

:thumb:
hells yeah

[whiteminority]

If this is true, holy ****...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Hurley

Andrew John Hurley was born on May 31, 1980 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He is the drummer of the Chicago based band Fall Out Boy.

Previous Projects
Hurley played drums in the Chicago metalcore band Racetraitor, Milwaukee's Global Scam and Kill the Monkey Friends and in 1999 played drums on Vegan Reich's final EP. Later, Hurley started the emo pop band, Project Rocket, with future Spitalfield bassist T.J. Minnich (drugs). He then ventured into garage punk with Racetraitor frontman Mani M-ha Asaam Sta-fi and Since By Man guitar player Kevin Herwig forming The Kill Pill. He also played drums in various bands that included Fall Out Boy's bassist Pete Wentz, namely Culture of Violence with Tim Miller AKA "Straightedge Flames" AKA "STIXXX", and also had a short stint in the California powerviolence outfit Spazz.

...

[Times Ten]

That is hilarious.

[RetiredAt21]

I'm sure the Godstomper half is good, I've never heard of Green Beret though...

[RetiredAt21]

I wonder if it's true.

[AIRIC]

Both were kind of weird.

[clustifux]

Oh...Godstomper are good....oh yes...they are indeed.

[clustifux]

It was one of the emo bands i saw in a music video that the drummer had a FILTH t-shirt on so it is a possibiltity.

[Feel The Darkness]

It was one of the emo bands i saw in a music video that the drummer had a FILTH t-shirt on so it is a possibiltity.
That's the drummer from All-American Rejects. I saw the video too and started laughing. The dude they're talking about is the dude from Fall Out Boy, though. I remember hearing that he played in Earth Crisis, too, but I dunno.

[Scabies]

i wouldnt be surprised if he played in spazz tbh

[Scabies]

and sorry, but that all american rejects song is awesome. sorry.

[Gnarmageddon]

Wow. Aborted rules.

i wouldnt be surprised if he played in spazz tbh
Yeah, same here. Since Pete Wentz played in that straight edge vegan hardcore band.

Edit: Justin, we should compile a list of good grind bands in the first post of this thread. And we could include metal stuff too, just for the hell of it.

[RetiredAt21]

Wow. Aborted rules.


Yeah, same here. Since Pete Wentz played in that straight edge vegan hardcore band.

Edit: Justin, we should compile a list of good grind bands in the first post of this thread. And we could include metal stuff too, just for the hell of it.

That's a fantastic idea. :)

[RetiredAt21]

Does anyone have any Green Beret MP3s? I'd like to hear them.

[Feel The Darkness]

That's a fantastic idea. :)
do it

[RetiredAt21]

My s/n is xxMyLoveMyWayxx, IM me when you wanna talk about this list. :)

[Subvert_bassist]

i wouldnt be surprised if he played in spazz tbh
Haha, some random Max Ward in Fall Out Boy. Max Ward seems to be in like every band ever. I mean, look at the list (at least the ones I can think of right now):

Capitalist Casualties
Spazz
Evolved to Obliteration
Scholastic Deth
What Happens Next?
Bombs Of Death
Plutocracy
Meat****s
Charles Bronson

My god. I mean, this man is my god.

[clustifux]

dudes.... Napalm death is sunday, and im getting way to over exicited. Its a bit expensive(25 bucsk) But i donno..haha.

Edit: What was that link to the dude playing the blast beats and such on the drums? i searched the thread for like an hour so far and have yet to find it.

[bhp_factor]

assuck, napalm death, extreme noise terror, repulsion, anal cunt and so on. all this are ****ing great grindcore bands man.

[RetiredAt21]

Haha, some random Max Ward in Fall Out Boy. Max Ward seems to be in like every band ever. I mean, look at the list (at least the ones I can think of right now):

Capitalist Casualties
Spazz
Evolved to Obliteration
Scholastic Deth
What Happens Next?
Bombs Of Death
Plutocracy
Meat****s
Charles Bronson

My god. I mean, this man is my god.

Hahaha, yeah dude, for real, he's amazing.

[Gnarmageddon]

Alright, I've composed a list of all the grind and tech/death metal I can think of. Justin, feel free to add/change anything, and do the black metal section.

Also, if someone knows a band that should be added, feel free to mention them and Justin or I will get them up there.

Should we include a powerviolence section, too?

[DaveToopes]

A PV section would be cool. I need to find some more PV.

[Gnarmageddon]

Yeah, same. I don't know of much.

[Liebensaft]

So uhhhh R.A.M.B.O. are awesome.

[DaveToopes]

Str8 up. What album did you get?

[Liebensaft]

Wall of Death the System, which I just finished, and Bring It! which is playing right now.

[AIRIC]

Bring It! is sweet.

[Feel The Darkness]

the thrash thread has PV bands, but go ahead and add em here, too.

[whiteminority]

Spencer:
In/Humanity (?)- PV
Ion Dissonance- tech
Job For A Cowboy- scene death
Melt Banana- noise
Neil Perry- screamo
Plot To Blow Up The Eiffel Tower (?)- hard to say but not grind really (not really anything)
Psyopus (?)- tech
Combatwoundedveteran- screamo
Daughters- noise
The Number Twelve Looks Like You- scene tech

[DaveToopes]

combatwoundedveteran don't sound screamo to me.

[whiteminority]

continued

Black My Heart- metalcore
Gorgoroth- black metal
Behemoth- some death but mainly black

[clustifux]

(bump)

Hell Shocker any good?

[Feel The Darkness]

(bump)

Hell Shocker any good?
Hellkrusher?
Hellshock?

...Hell Shocker?

[clustifux]

Hell Krusher** (As we discussed on aim)

And I answered my own stupid question... They are indeed good.

[RetiredAt21]

Hell Krusher? Never heard of them. I gotta check them out.

[RetiredAt21]

Here is my black metal band list, if anyone has any they'd like to add, feel free to tell me. I just wanted to show everyone the list BEFORE I edit my first post.

Vlad Tepes
1349
Marduk
Anaal Nathrakh
Darkthrone
Dark Funeral
Mayhem
Burzum
Summoning
Gorgoroth
Ulver
Craft
Isengard
Finntroll
Emperor
Immortal
Ancient
Bathory
Behemoth
Enlsaved
Frozen Shadows
Hellhammer
Rotting Christ
Belial
Dissection
Graveland
Zyklon-B

[Subvert_bassist]

In/Humanity isn't really PV, and Melt Banana isn't really music.

(I don't like Melt Banana.)

[RetiredAt21]

Me neither, Melt Banana sucks balls.

[whiteminority]

In/Humanity isn't really PV, and Melt Banana isn't really music.

(I don't like Melt Banana.)
Melt Banana does indeed suck, but In/Humanity is powerviolence.

[AIRIC]

The Truth Hurts / 2 Man Advantage / Mouth Sewn Shut / Gak Attack / Lucia Lie / Wake Up Dead ($8)

Missed that :(

ANyone know any of these?:
Upstairs @ 8pm
Red Alert / The Traditionals / Murderers Row / Shock Nagasaki / Scag Rotter

Upstairs @ 8pm
Benefit For Homeless Action Commitee
KittyLittle / Bell County Silence / Aficianado / The Wasted / volution Revolution / The Jury

Upstairs @ 7pm
Altercation Magazine Tour w / Blase Debris / Casket Architects / Plastic Jesus

Upstairs @ 6pm
Armed For Battle / Reign Of Terror / In This Defiance ($10)

Should I go to any of them?

[cbmartinez]

Armed For Battle is the worst band ever.

[AIRIC]

Okay good there's one I don't have to go to.

[Times Ten]

Armed For Battle is the worst band ever.
Backed 110%. Terrible excuse for a band. xReign of Terrorx is also horrible.

[NewKindofArmy03]

Behemoth- some death but mainly black
Demigod is pretty much death metal with black metal influences.

[NewKindofArmy03]

The Truth Hurts / 2 Man Advantage / Mouth Sewn Shut / Gak Attack / Lucia Lie / Wake Up Dead ($8)

My band just played with Mouth Sewn shut. They're so good, I can't wait until they get out a record. They played A'sshole by Toxic Narcotic too.

[AIRIC]

Yeah I heard that they have Toxic Narcotic members. I wish I knew that.

[RetiredAt21]

Armed For Battle is the worst band ever.

What kind of music are they?

[whiteminority]

Demigod is pretty much death metal with black metal influences.
The majority of their music catalog is black metal. Demigod is sweet though.

[Scabies]

Melt Banana does indeed suck, but In/Humanity is powerviolence.

emoooo violenceeeeeeeeeee, eeemmooooo viiiooolenceee....

[whiteminority]

emoooo violenceeeeeeeeeee, eeemmooooo viiiooolenceee....
good song but that isn't a real genre.

[Scabies]

well im gonna pretend it is.

emooo violenceee eeemmooo vviioolenceeee

[RetiredAt21]

That is a real good song. Let's all just pretend it's a real genre.

[Scabies]

i'm up for that.

also, motley crue are now an emo violence band. coz i said so.

[DaveToopes]

That is a real good song. Let's all just pretend it's a real genre.

By who?

[RetiredAt21]

In/Humanity.

[cbmartinez]

What kind of music are they?

mosh metal/breakdowncore whatever you wanna call it. In the vein of new Throwdown, xDeath Starx.

http://www.myspace.com/soulcinematheatre

Go there, they're on our top 8 because my drummer thinks they are hilarious.

[Subvert_bassist]

I've always pretended emo violence was a real genre. I've fit hella bands into this category. In/Humanity, Guyana Punch Line, Swing Kids, Neil Perry, Great Redneck Hope, etc. All emo violence to me, beause now, it IS a genre.

[The Feeding]

Pig Destroyer, Through The Eyes Of The Dead, Animosity, Behemoth, Aborted, Killwhitneydead, Ed Gein, Deicide, Cattle Decapiation, this list could be 20 pages long if i really tried....

[Gnarmageddon]

I've always pretended emo violence was a real genre. I've fit hella bands into this category. In/Humanity, Guyana Punch Line, Swing Kids, Neil Perry, Great Redneck Hope, etc. All emo violence to me, beause now, it IS a genre.
What exactly is emo violence though? It makes no sense.

Pig Destroyer, Through The Eyes Of The Dead, Animosity, Behemoth, Aborted, Killwhitneydead, Ed Gein, Deicide, Cattle Decapiation, this list could be 20 pages long if i really tried....
Check the list in the first post.

[whiteminority]

Emo violence was a joke by In/Humanity about the genres that made no sense to them at the time **** like emocore (not the proper name but it was being used) and power violence. So they put them together and hence we have emo violence. Joke.

[Fritz Plays Bass]

Isn't Dropdead Power Violence? They should be on that list, they're awesome.

[cbmartinez]

Take Head Wound City of that list right now.

[conniption]

Circle of Dead Children is missing from that first list.

[AIRIC]

Dropdead are awesome.

[Subvert_bassist]

Anyone like Despised Icon? I heard them for the first time a couple days ago, and I liked 'em.

[Times Ten]

My friend is really into Despised Icon. I'm not into them at all, though.

[Fritz Plays Bass]

Never really heard Despised Icon.

[Subvert_bassist]

They're metalcore kinda stuff.

More news on Doves Lie Dead: I've been talking to the guy who runs Destructure Records, outta France. They've released some stuff for Wolfbrigade and Coliseum, and we've been talking about maybe releasing a record with them since Loderbrock hasn't said anything back to us in awhile.

[whiteminority]

Awesome :thumb:

[AIRIC]

Nice.

[Fritz Plays Bass]

Can't say I'm a huge fan of metalcore really, but I'll give them a listen.

Awesome news on getting with destructure, hopefully it will work ou well, if it does I'll be interested in buying a 7" or 12" or whatever you release.

[Subvert_bassist]

At this point, I'm thinkin' it'll be a 7".

And thanks.

[whiteminority]

I would buy one.

[RetiredAt21]

I'd buy one too.

[Liebensaft]

I would illegally download it from the first person who got an mp3 version.

[DaveToopes]

Way to support his band.

[Liebensaft]

I don't have a record player, and don't plan on buying one.

[DaveToopes]

Hater.

[Liebensaft]

Music isn't about making money. It's about having your voice heard, and expressing your ideas. Fans and support are more important than how much you're pulling in.

Duh.

[DaveToopes]

did you just tell me what music was about?

BTW I agree with you (lol)

[AIRIC]

Music is also about supporting your scene.

[Liebensaft]

Music is about ANARCHY.

[AIRIC]

The R.A.M.B.O. song Sophomore Effort is so confusing. It starts out sounding like it's going to be a pop-punk song and then the vocals come in, then it goes back to pop-punk.

[Feel The Darkness]

The R.A.M.B.O. song Sophomore Effort is so confusing. It starts out sounding like it's going to be a pop-punk song and then the vocals come in, then it goes back to pop-punk.
R.A.M.B.O. > your opinion

[DaveToopes]

R.A.M.B.O. rox.

[RetiredAt21]

R.A.M.B.O. probably gets discussed in this thread more than any other band. And there's a good reason for that, they r00l.

[AIRIC]

R.A.M.B.O. > your opinion


I like R.A.M.B.O. a lot..

I was just saying that song is pretty funny.

[Scabies]

am i the only one who pretty much only comes on here for this thread nowadays?

[clustifux]

nope...i come here only for this thread and the crust thread....which is dying.

Edit: Oh yeah..and im seeing napalm death tonight in about three hours. Its them kreator and a few more metal bands. Its gonna be dope.

[AIRIC]

We should just merge the 2 threads. We talk about grind in the crust thread and crust in this thread so it's not really a big deal.

[NewKindofArmy03]

The R.A.M.B.O. song Sophomore Effort is so confusing. It starts out sounding like it's going to be a pop-punk song and then the vocals come in, then it goes back to pop-punk.
I love that song. My friend told me the other day its a joke song about selling out.

[AIRIC]

I liked it too, it just sounds so funny with the pop-punk riff and RAMBO vocals.

[DaveToopes]

I agree.

[Feel The Darkness]

I like R.A.M.B.O. a lot..

I was just saying that song is pretty funny.
haha, yeah, I was just messing with you.

[DaveToopes]

Even when you're messing with people they put their tails between their legs and take it. JAtomic is the definition of gruff.

[AIRIC]

He seriously is. J is scary even on the internet.

[Feel The Darkness]

hahaha, I'm the anti-gruff, but I guess I'll take that as a compliment.

WAR ANTI-GRUFF THRASHING SKINHEADS!

[Subvert_bassist]

Music isn't about making money. It's about having your voice heard, and expressing your ideas. Fans and support are more important than how much you're pulling in.

No, no; it's, uh, about the money.

This thread is my whole reason for existence.

Go to the DLD myspace an listen to the last song. It's us if we were chipmunks.

http://www.myspace.com/dovesliedead

[RetiredAt21]

No, no; it's, uh, about the money.

This thread is my whole reason for existence.

Go to the DLD myspace an listen to the last song. It's us if we were chipmunks.

http://www.myspace.com/dovesliedead

Hahahahaha.

[whiteminority]

This sucks, Bodies In The Gears Of The Apparatus broke up.

"Bodies In The Gears Of The Apparatus have decided to call it quits, vocalist Josh Vitale commented on the matter saying:

"We're all very upset to see this band go, but for now, this is the best decision we could decide on. We will all be in other bands, most likely not with each other. We had a lot of critics both positive and negative - both of which made us stronger people and we'd like to send out our thanks to those many who angered and inspired us enough to work harder , moreover, we want to thank everyone who supported this musical project for the past three years. Finally, thank you so much for making this a wonderful and unforgettable experience."

The bullentin continued for anyone who wants to a band...

ok now that everyone knows whats going on......
I am looking for drummers and guitar players. New project in the works, I am looking to make this project my primary focus. I have awesome, motivated and talented people coming together to work with me and I am honored, lucky and excited. However, I require yet another guitar player and a drummer who can not only haul *** on the BPMs (especially the bass drums), but can be creative/odd/original.

Enquiring parties MUST:

1. Live near/move to Tampa/St.Pete/Clearwater FL. area.
2. Have decent equipment, or ****ty equipment that works reliably and sounds awesome.
3. Be willing and able to commit to at least four practices a week.
4. Be willing and able to commit to a 3 month on, 2 month off tour schedule once the songs are solidified.
5. This music is going to be as bizarro as it is brutal and heavy; as well, the members are stable but weird people, so you must be chill and open minded.
6. Must love to write and play amazing music with no doubts about their abilities or goals.

Practice space will be provided. If you do not live in our area and we decide mutually to work together, temporary housing can be provided. Won't be luxurious, but it will be free.

Interested? Like white rice and peanut butter sandwiches?
Please contact me by any of these avenues:

(859)-312-1747 {Leave a message, my ringer is ****ed up}
(715)-252-4199 {Ask for Spazz}
AIM - ninnghizzhidda
MSN Messenger: yeoats@filthporn.com
myspace.com/filthye
email empireofsubhumans@hotmail.com

I am putting my all into this and am looking for exactly the right people. Can't wait to meet you.

- Ian -aaron
(Bodies in the Gears of the Apparatus)

[AIRIC]

What kind of music are they?

[whiteminority]

Grind/death metal.

[Subvert_bassist]

BITGOTA broke up? ****; that ****ing sucks.

[clustifux]

napalm....and kreator...were insane... Possibly one of the best shows ive been to.

[RetiredAt21]

That sucks about Bodies In The Gears breaking up.

[whiteminority]

most definately

[AndreTheHyena]

Kids, check out Network of Terror, an amazing crusty anarcho-grind band from North Carolina. I saw 'em tonight and it ruled. After the show, we partied and had dumpstered-banana smoothies...

http://myspace.com/networkofterror

Liner notes to their cd: "WE ARE LOVECORE. XOXO. **** MACHISMO. WE WANT GODDAMN HUGS IN THE PIT." And boy were there ever some crucial hugs...

[RetiredAt21]

Hahahahaha, crucial hugs.

[Fritz Plays Bass]

Network Of Terror = awesome.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah man, Network Of Terror is a really great band.

I want a crucial hug.

[AndreTheHyena]

There were also ticklepits at that show.

I'm playing a show with them this July, supposedly. They're hooking us up when we go on our tour in the South.

It's going to be one of the most ridiculous line-ups ever.

[Gnarmageddon]

Phobia tribute album.

[Noiseterrorist]

IF YOU WANT SOME GRIND...



WWW.MYSPACE.COM/ONSLAUGHT23

[RetiredAt21]

There were also ticklepits at that show.

I'm playing a show with them this July, supposedly. They're hooking us up when we go on our tour in the South.

It's going to be one of the most ridiculous line-ups ever.

That is awesome.

[DaveToopes]

What exactly is a ticklepit? Is it exactly what it sounds like?

[Liebensaft]

You would think so. I'd probably end up flailing my arms when people tickled me, resulting in someone getting hit in the face, and everyone getting upset.

[Subvert_bassist]

Ticklepits sound fun. Except, the vocalist of my band, Ryan, hates getting tickled; I tickled him once and he bit me.

[AndreTheHyena]

What exactly is a ticklepit? Is it exactly what it sounds like?

Yes. The dive venue they were playing at had a zero-tolerance policy on violence, including mosh pits, and NOT are lovecore and anti-pit maschismo and all that, so it was a great compromise.

[DaveToopes]

Oh, that's awesome. Sounds like a cool band.

[whiteminority]

That would definately make for an interesting show.

[DaveToopes]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

[AIRIC]

Agreed. If I ever start a band we will have tickle pits.

[DaveToopes]

Haha imagine a bunch of big tough grind guys showing up to a show to tickle each other!

[AIRIC]

I'm a tough grind guy. Except J told me I'm not that fierce :(

[Liebensaft]

That would be hilarious. I can only imagine the hilarity of big, burly guys giggling and tickling each other.

[AIRIC]

Wearing water polo caps.

[Liebensaft]

Why water polo caps?

[AIRIC]

I just imagine big burly men running around giggling and tickling eachother in pink waterpolo caps.

[Liebensaft]

Oh!

[Feel The Darkness]

I'm a tough grind guy. Except J told me I'm not that fierce :(
YOU'REEEEEEEEEEEEE NOT THAT FIERCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E

:smash:

[Subvert_bassist]

Yeah, this is for Evan (and anyone who might be in the Sacto area April 7th):

Off The Grid
3950 2nd Ave
Sacramento, CA
Free, A/A

Doves Lie Dead
Childrens Crusade
Brutal Assault
Maybe Rosenbaums
Maybe Godstomper

[RetiredAt21]

I just imagine big burly men running around giggling and tickling eachother in pink waterpolo caps.

lolololololololololololol

[Gnarmageddon]

Phobia tribute album.
PHOBIA TRIBUTE ALBUM.

[RetiredAt21]

There's a Phobia tribute album? I wanna hear it.