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Magicaltroll
03-22-2005, 07:49 PM
heh...I'd kill for a Martin acoustic. Nice job on learning the song, though. I have yet to tackle that one. I've been making my way through the Delieverance album for some reason.

EDIT: That's a cool feature on the Zoom pedal, too. It's perfect for learning/writing parts with two simultaneous guitar parts.
I still haven't been learning much Opeth. I always get confused when playing it, I don't know if its because the tabs are wrong, or if its because I'm just stupid when it comes to that stuff...
But I know a good aount of their acoustic stuff :thumb:

evil ernie
03-23-2005, 12:33 AM
Well.... thank you guys for clarifying the medieval guitar thing...though I don't believe the word is appropriate here. Maybe that's because when I say medieval, I mean Hammerfall or Freedom Call, which is obviously not what you meant.

Concerning the last acoustic part of In The Mist She Was Standing, I don't understand exactly what is hard to figure out, the part is quite slow and relativly simple, no ****ed up chords or anything, and both guitars are panned seperatly. If your concern is only the sound of that part, there's not much you can do about it more than screwing around for hours on your recording program to get as close as possible to their sound. Even if you had the exact guitar Mikael used on this album, even if you had the exact same recording equipement he used, you still would have a hard time nailing the exact tone you can ear on the album.

Oh and the outro of this song is soooooooo good.

opeth_oasis
03-23-2005, 12:53 AM
^

Mikeal got sick of that, so I don't think we'll ever see twin guitar back.
it does keep Morningrise unique though :)

yes, we had to bid the twin guitar farewell. I just started to learn the Leper Affinity, and i think its the hardest opeth song ive ever attempted, though im starting to get it down

evil ernie
03-23-2005, 01:50 AM
Yeah The Lepper Affinity is the hardest Opeth song to play in my opinion.

Grey Incision
03-23-2005, 02:37 AM
i think that some of the songs off of still life are harder, namely, white cluster

Cardboard Headgear
03-23-2005, 02:54 AM
I don't know what kind of acoustic he used to record that riff with...but It sounds like a Martin to me :thumb:

What do you guitarists out there think?
Go look on their site, there's a list of all the equipment they used for all the albums. And no, its not a Martin, he didn't have one back then. It's some classical guitar.

i think that some of the songs off of still life are harder, namely, white cluster
Yeah, Still Life has the most unorthodox riffing of any of their albums, very odd patterns and melodies. Lots of the riffs are tricky to get down just becuase they are so out of the ordinary for what your hands are used to doing. Tounge (i can't spell) twisters for guitar, if you will. What exactly do you guys find hard about The Leper Affinity? Maybe I can help.

Grey Incision
03-23-2005, 02:59 AM
yeah, definatly, the easiest song is probably the moor, and even then, that's quite hard

opeth_oasis
03-23-2005, 03:01 AM
i think benighted is easier than the moor

Grey Incision
03-23-2005, 03:19 AM
haha, dunno, i always have trouble with benighted, my finger picking is far from up to scratch

opeth_oasis
03-23-2005, 03:46 AM
Go look on their site, there's a list of all the equipment they used for all the albums. And no, its not a Martin, he didn't have one back then. It's some classical guitar.


Yeah, Still Life has the most unorthodox riffing of any of their albums, very odd patterns and melodies. Lots of the riffs are tricky to get down just becuase they are so out of the ordinary for what your hands are used to doing. Tounge (i can't spell) twisters for guitar, if you will. What exactly do you guys find hard about The Leper Affinity? Maybe I can help.

nothing in particular hard about it, some of the riffage is difficult to get down, but im getting there

the2stranger
03-23-2005, 06:31 AM
still life is their most complex album + try and play all those riffs, and sing over them as well, very few are as gifted as Mikeal

ArcLite
03-23-2005, 06:32 AM
Yeah, I can't imagine trying to sing and play those riffs at the same time. Must take a good deal of focus, even for ol' Mikey.

Deth
03-23-2005, 10:40 AM
I just learned the drapery falls and bleak on bass. Fun little numbers to play. I can't find good tabs of their early stuff though.

Kafkastolemyslippers
03-23-2005, 05:43 PM
I found a lot of their earlier stuff on powertabs.net I think.

I am starting to learn the Leper Affinity right now. That song is so evil sounding, it's amazing.

I have also started working through all of Morningrise on drums, but it may take some time before I learn everything. My drumming skills aren't exactly up to snuff.

XyleM
03-23-2005, 08:17 PM
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2AAG2NH1CPS5811RWW3HE4E5JK

Theres Opeth- Orchid, if anyone doesn't have it.
I put it up on yousendit for some guy, and I decided to not let it go to waste, so there ya go
It also has the bonus track.

Much love :thumb:

GTU-Tabz
03-23-2005, 08:20 PM
yellow card rox, it's the best metal band i heard

Grey Incision
03-23-2005, 11:39 PM
yellow card rox, it's the best metal band i heard

even though it was a troll, this thread just got ruined:(

Dude3
03-24-2005, 12:21 AM
Does anybody know where I can find an official tab book for Blackwater Park? I searched all over, and I can't find one. Maybe they don't make them :upset:

I need to learn an Opeth song. I was thinking of trying The Leper Affinity. I've only learned the opening riff so far. I know parts of a few other songs off of that album too.

IvortheEngineDriver
03-24-2005, 03:54 AM
You know, looking at all the different avatars of people posting in this thread, it really makes me smile, It makes me think of Opeth as one of "those" bands. Those bands that bridge gaps and open minds up to new things.

I know, we are all smart people here, but do you often see a band that is liked by people of all different genres (most notably Xylem's avatar, an Incubus fan liking Opeth...btw, I love Incubus)

I dont know if this post has any point, but man, I just love seeing Opeth appreciated by all, it makes me think great things :)

BTW, has anyone tried showing Opeth to school mates/friends? What's their responses usually? Do they reject the growling vocals at first? Do you show them ****ation or maybe their softer songs on other records (To Bid You Farewell and Benighted are great ones to show...as is Harvest...well all of them are good ;) )

Det_Nosnip
03-24-2005, 11:27 AM
Usually, I end up having to say "Ok, yes, the growls are a little hard to handle at first, but KEEP LISTENING, ****IT!" :lol: I do a radio show once a week, and I keep end up playing "Godhead's Lament" on it. Probably not the most easily accessible of Opeth songs (it kicks in right away with Death metal fury), but those acoustic/clean vocal passages are some of the band's best. I've also played "Harvest" and some stuff from ****ation, and generally gotten pretty good receptions. They really seem to a band that you either love or hate, though.

Cain
03-24-2005, 11:33 AM
My roommate doesn't like the growls because he says it's "such a typical way to growl." That would be fine except what he considers to be "un-typical" are emo band screaming, which is what he likes. :rolleyes:

My roommate=dumbass.

I hate my roommate when it comes to musical taste. It's because he's so freakin' narrow. He just listens to heavier and softer varieties of emo music and pop-rock and punk and thinks that means he listens to a "wide variety of things." He doesn't listen to anything made before 1990, and a wide genre vocabulary is sorely lacking.

the2stranger
03-24-2005, 11:35 AM
I lately converted one of my mates to Opeth, and Dream Theater, how about that, but I have a really hard time making my mates listen to them, and like them

np: DT - space dye vest

IvortheEngineDriver
03-24-2005, 11:41 AM
Only stuff I can play on bass right now from opeth is pretty much most of ****ation. Though, To Bid You Farewell is rough and I'm trying Bleak...though, I suck :upset:

Deth
03-24-2005, 12:02 PM
I've tried letting a few of my friends listen to them and most of them promply hand the headphones back to me. Not very open minded people.

evil ernie
03-24-2005, 12:30 PM
I've shown Opeth to my younger brother and two of his friends. About 6 months later they asked me to join them to start an Opeth tribute band.

There's something for everyone in Opeth's music.

Kafkastolemyslippers
03-24-2005, 04:01 PM
My friends got into Opeth pretty readily, but that's because I sort of weaned them on In Flames first, so they were used to the vocals.

Deth
03-24-2005, 06:56 PM
They can't get past the vocals, so it ends there.

I can't stand death metal vocals etiher-except Opeth of course.

i am the robots
03-24-2005, 08:41 PM
My friends got into Opeth pretty readily, but that's because I sort of weaned them on In Flames first, so they were used to the vocals.

Heh, I got used to the vocals from randomly buying Morningrise, and then listening to the music and being like "OMGZ THIS OWNS, BUT THE SINGER IZ GHEY," then came the clean singing, I listened for a couple of days straight cause I found it so amazing, and I got used to the vocals.... this was in October.

RiceMonster
03-24-2005, 08:53 PM
Heh, I got used to the vocals from randomly buying Morningrise, and then listening to the music and being like "OMGZ THIS OWNS, BUT THE SINGER IZ GHEY," then came the clean singing, I listened for a couple of days straight cause I found it so amazing, and I got used to the vocals.... this was in October.
It took me a while to get into the vocals as well. Funny thing is I had the almost the exact same thoughts. I'm glad they helped me apreciate that vocal style, it opened my mind to a whole new world of music.

i am the robots
03-24-2005, 08:59 PM
It took me a while to get into the vocals as well. Funny thing is I had the almost the exact same thoughts. I'm glad they helped me apreciate that vocal style, it opened my mind to a whole new world of music.

Yeah, if it weren't for me and my friends going to FYE and seeing who would buy the best randomly picked CD, I wouldn't be listening to a lot of the stuff I'm into now.

Grey Incision
03-25-2005, 02:33 AM
it was my teacher who suggested i listen to some opeth. He gave me a burnt copy of still life, and i put it away and didn't listen to it because i thought it sucked, then i randomly started putting it in the cd player to give it another shot, and bam, i brought the real still life a day later :p

Still Life
03-25-2005, 03:49 AM
it was my teacher who suggested i listen to some opeth. He gave me a burnt copy of still life, and i put it away and didn't listen to it because i thought it sucked, then i randomly started putting it in the cd player to give it another shot, and bam, i brought the real still life a day later :p

Yea same. When I first heard them, they didnt do anything for me at all. Now theyre my favourite band :p

Det_Nosnip
03-25-2005, 03:50 AM
I think it was actually Akerfeldt's performance on the latest Ayreon album that REALLY pushed me towards Opeth. It's a funny part of human nature, that if you hear something in a song you don't like, chances are you'll just dismiss it all right away and ignore the parts you ordinarily might have liked. I think this was what happened the first time I listened to Opeth; it was just too much for me, and I didn't like the growling. When I was exposed to Akerfeldt without Opeth, just singing, I suddenly realized that there was more to this guy than I noticed at first. Plus, watching him go from singing to growling on the Ayreon DVD was very impressive.

I think that alot of people don't like DM vocals because of the negative stereotypes associated with the style and because they confuse it with blind screaming. I still don't like the kind of scream your guts out sort of untrained thing that some metal and hardcore bands do, it just sounds....painful. :lol: With death and even black metal, you can tell that they actually know what they're doing.

Dude3
03-25-2005, 04:53 AM
Yea^^^^^^^A *lot of those screamo and Hardcore bands have no guidance of their "screaming or growling". That is another reason why these type of vocals are dismissed as bad to a lot of people.





*by a lot, I mean all.

the2stranger
03-25-2005, 05:26 AM
poorly controlled and overdosed vocals suck,
a vocalist must know when to shut up, and when to sing.

and Mikeal is my favorite vocalist, he's just awesome

Deth
03-25-2005, 09:22 AM
So think he'll stay demonic for the new album or possibly go back a little to Morningrise style?

the2stranger
03-25-2005, 10:44 AM
let it be the demonic voice he uses now,
back in the days I prefered his old growls, and couldn't get used to his newer.
his new stuff sounds way more powerfull, for example blackwater park ( the song)
or the end of wreath, with the dubble mixed vocals, the death vocals mixed with black vocals, that's one of the most awesome vocal parts ever done by Opeth IMO

Mr. Ron
03-25-2005, 12:53 PM
Yea^^^^^^^A *lot of those screamo and Hardcore bands have no guidance of their "screaming or growling". That is another reason why these type of vocals are dismissed as bad to a lot of people.





*by a lot, I mean all.

Nice generalization. Go listen to shai hulud.

Kafkastolemyslippers
03-25-2005, 11:15 PM
Nice generalization. Go listen to shai hulud.

It was a needless generalization, but the fact that you had to mention a relatively unknown band to counter it shows that it must be largely true.


I loved the vocals on Orchid and Morningrise and once I got Blackwater Park, it took a bit of getting used to. The music between those albums is so different also. Makes me wonder what this next stuff is going to sound like, because they could go in a lot of different directions.

Mr. Ron
03-25-2005, 11:22 PM
It was a needless generalization, but the fact that you had to mention a relatively unknown band to counter it shows that it must be largely true.


I loved the vocals on Orchid and Morningrise and once I got Blackwater Park, it took a bit of getting used to. The music between those albums is so different also. Makes me wonder what this next stuff is going to sound like, because they could go in a lot of different directions.
Your being a bit elitest don't you think? You can't just say a whole genre is horrible.

Kafkastolemyslippers
03-25-2005, 11:33 PM
Your being a bit elitest don't you think? You can't just say a whole genre is horrible.

If you recall the post that you replied to, it was regarding the vocal styles of the genre, not the genre.

Anyway, I'd like to keep this thread about Opeth rather than arguments with posters I have nothing against.

Mr. Ron
03-25-2005, 11:41 PM
If you recall the post that you replied to, it was regarding the vocal styles of the genre, not the genre.

Anyway, I'd like to keep this thread about Opeth rather than arguments with posters I have nothing against.
Agreed. I was in a bad mood when I posted that. Cheers. :thumb:

i am the robots
03-26-2005, 12:12 AM
I think it was actually Akerfeldt's performance on the latest Ayreon album that REALLY pushed me towards Opeth. It's a funny part of human nature, that if you hear something in a song you don't like, chances are you'll just dismiss it all right away and ignore the parts you ordinarily might have liked. I think this was what happened the first time I listened to Opeth; it was just too much for me, and I didn't like the growling. When I was exposed to Akerfeldt without Opeth, just singing, I suddenly realized that there was more to this guy than I noticed at first. Plus, watching him go from singing to growling on the Ayreon DVD was very impressive.

I think that alot of people don't like DM vocals because of the negative stereotypes associated with the style and because they confuse it with blind screaming. I still don't like the kind of scream your guts out sort of untrained thing that some metal and hardcore bands do, it just sounds....painful. :lol: With death and even black metal, you can tell that they actually know what they're doing.

Some unfocused screaming really works, take Circle Takes The Square for example, and screaming is more of a "core" thing than a Death Metal thing, take Howard Jones or Matt Shadows for example, excellent screaming on both parts, or even Nu-Metal, such as Jon Davis, Stephen Richards, or Chester Bennington, really the only screaming in Death Metal I can stand is with In Flames and Death, the rest, I prefer growling.

Grey Incision
03-26-2005, 12:33 AM
det.........you mentioned an Ayreon dvd..............this can't be a concert can it? more info? :)

i am the robots
03-26-2005, 12:34 AM
Yes, I am curious too, enlighten me.

Grey Incision
03-26-2005, 12:39 AM
and while we're at it, any updates on the opeth album? i know they went in to record about a week ago, any news on how its going?

MANintheMIRROR
03-26-2005, 01:07 AM
No BAND or GROUP sticks out to me that would last except for RHCP, but one vocalist does which is corey taylor from slipknot and stone sour.

Grey Incision
03-26-2005, 01:20 AM
get the f*ck out of this thread and into the right one

i am the robots
03-26-2005, 01:22 AM
and while we're at it, any updates on the opeth album? i know they went in to record about a week ago, any news on how its going?

Checked their site, just says that they went in for recording, and then something about the producer of "A Call To The Irons," being confirmed as dead from the Tsunami R.I.P. he truly produced one of the greatest Maiden Tribute's ever.

Grey Incision
03-26-2005, 01:24 AM
:upset: serious? ****.............this has not been a good 6 months for music, dimebag, now the producer of one of the greatest tributes ever :upset:

i am the robots
03-26-2005, 01:29 AM
:upset: serious? ****.............this has not been a good 6 months for music, dimebag, now the producer of one of the greatest tributes ever :upset:

Yeah, but so many good bands are coming out with amazing albums, Korn has 2 albums coming out this year!

Grey Incision
03-26-2005, 02:23 AM
eh, not a big fan of korn, but i can't wait for, tool, opeth, porcupine tree and strapping young lad's new albums :)

IvortheEngineDriver
03-27-2005, 04:59 AM
^^^Add DT to that list (haven't heard SYL yet) and those are the albums I am creamin' for right now, plus Audioslave's album. This summer, I am going to SOOOOOOOOOOOO many shows. Also, I'm looking forward to Mudvayne's new album, not as good as their other ones, but I enjoy hearin bands progress.

Much like Opeth has progressed since Orchid...They can only go up, IMO. I just wish Steven wasn't producing this one. I think he has done his magic with BWP and D/D, but, I think they need a new face to bring in a different sound to enhance the sound they already have.

the2stranger
03-27-2005, 12:24 PM
^

STeven Wilson isn't producing this album, they have ome other dude producing now.
I'm curious how it will sound, with no help from SW, although Opeth can produce great albums themselves too though.

oh, and off topic, I read some info about the new Porcupine tree album, with Mikeal as guest appearance, but he only does vocal harmonies :(
I thought he would do some solo or something, but too bad, although Mikeals vocals will contribute great too the album

Grey Incision
03-27-2005, 05:00 PM
I like steven wilson's sound, knowing how he influenced opeth's stuff, it will be a treat to see what mikael can do for steve.

Cardboard Headgear
03-27-2005, 05:59 PM
det.........you mentioned an Ayreon dvd..............this can't be a concert can it? more info? :)
It comes with the special edition of The Human Equation, has lots of 'making of' stuff and a music video for Day 11.

i am the robots
03-27-2005, 06:02 PM
I just found out an interesting tidbit about my favorite Opeth album, Morningrise. Apparently Anders Friden from In Flames helped out quite a bit with the production.

bucket
03-27-2005, 06:18 PM
I went 40 days without listening to Opeth. :cool: It was horrible, but on the plus side I discovered King Crimson.

IvortheEngineDriver
03-28-2005, 04:50 AM
I went 40 days without listening to Opeth. :cool: It was horrible, but on the plus side I discovered King Crimson.
If you want a good sounding modern day version of King Crimson, seriously check out Anekdoten...especially Gravity. I found this band on Mike's playlist and the album was compared to ****ation (though, I dont really see the similarity). Its a beautiful album and I think every Opeth fan should check em out...just some good ole fashion Prog Rock! Download The War is Over...an amazing song! :thumb:

(Seriously, people, please check em out!)

Grey Incision
03-28-2005, 04:57 AM
anyone know anything about the band camel? Mike is a huge fan, and Arjen lucassen (ayreon) said that he is as well. Camel has apparently influenced them both greatly

IvortheEngineDriver
03-28-2005, 05:02 AM
^

STeven Wilson isn't producing this album, they have ome other dude producing now.
I'm curious how it will sound, with no help from SW, although Opeth can produce great albums themselves too though.

oh, and off topic, I read some info about the new Porcupine tree album, with Mikeal as guest appearance, but he only does vocal harmonies :(
I thought he would do some solo or something, but too bad, although Mikeals vocals will contribute great too the album
Well, Still Life was the last album they did w/o SW and its one of their best, if not the (My fave is still Blackwater Park)

So...we'll wait and see

Cardboard Headgear
03-28-2005, 08:12 AM
anyone know anything about the band camel? Mike is a huge fan, and Arjen lucassen (ayreon) said that he is as well. Camel has apparently influenced them both greatly
I grabbed a live version of Rhayder Goes To Town off the Opeth forum, and I quite like it. It's Yes-ish in nature, and it's got this great 'goofy' kind of feel to it. I dunno, you have to hear it, but then that will make sense.

Special Brew
03-28-2005, 08:39 AM
I have had Orchid for a little while now and it's been the only CD I have been able to listen to. But yesterday I bought Blackwater Park and I can't believe ho wmuch better it is. Both albums are great but it's hard to believe anything much better than Blackwater Park. I am in Florida right now visiting my gf, but when I get back to Kentucky I will pick up Morningrise, ****ation, and Deliverance since I ordered them throigh Sam Goody.

Deth
03-28-2005, 08:51 AM
Morningrise owns. I've heard all of ****ation and most of Deliverance so you're in for a hella good time. My next album will probably be Still Life though.

the2stranger
03-28-2005, 09:53 AM
If you want a good sounding modern day version of King Crimson, seriously check out Anekdoten...especially Gravity. I found this band on Mike's playlist and the album was compared to ****ation (though, I dont really see the similarity). Its a beautiful album and I think every Opeth fan should check em out...just some good ole fashion Prog Rock! Download The War is Over...an amazing song! :thumb:

(Seriously, people, please check em out!)

yes people should, I have their gravity album, and theitr nucleus album.
although I have only listened to the gravity album really.
nice accoustics, i do see the similarities(sp?) with Opeth.

Det_Nosnip
03-28-2005, 10:27 AM
^^^Add DT to that list (haven't heard SYL yet) and those are the albums I am creamin' for right now, plus Audioslave's album. This summer, I am going to SOOOOOOOOOOOO many shows. Also, I'm looking forward to Mudvayne's new album, not as good as their other ones, but I enjoy hearin bands progress.


Don't get your hopes up...I definetly wouldn't call what they've done recently "progressing." Have you heard that new track, what is it..."****ing Determined"? :lol:

bucket
03-28-2005, 11:08 AM
If you want a good sounding modern day version of King Crimson, seriously check out Anekdoten...especially Gravity. I found this band on Mike's playlist and the album was compared to ****ation (though, I dont really see the similarity). Its a beautiful album and I think every Opeth fan should check em out...just some good ole fashion Prog Rock! Download The War is Over...an amazing song! :thumb:

(Seriously, people, please check em out!)

Thanks man, I'll pick an album up next time I go to look for some CDs altough I have quite an extensive list to check out.

I enjoy blindily buying CDs :) It never fails me.

Deth
03-28-2005, 03:08 PM
Don't get your hopes up...I definetly wouldn't call what they've done recently "progressing." Have you heard that new track, what is it..."****ing Determined"? :lol:
Dream Theater has a song called fvcking determined? Dear lord, that's not a good sign.

craggyisland
03-28-2005, 03:19 PM
Dream Theater has a song called fvcking determined? Dear lord, that's not a good sign.
Don't worry dude, that's Mudvayne's new stuff, not DT. :thumb:

Deth
03-28-2005, 03:25 PM
Oh, the post kind of confused me. I didn't read the whole quote.

Disaster averted.

the2stranger
03-28-2005, 03:25 PM
man, this stuff hasd nothing to do with Opeth.

so any news on the new album, they entered the studios at 15 march, but there haven't been any updates since

Deth
03-28-2005, 03:27 PM
I wouldn't think they would have time. They'll probably be working for a couple of months straight and updating the websites probably near the bottom of the to do list.

the2stranger
03-28-2005, 03:29 PM
yup, I'm affraid so, too bad

I do hope they post more tourdates soon :smoke:

Deth
03-28-2005, 03:30 PM
Me too, I'm getting anxious.

Juicy_Forlorn
03-28-2005, 04:30 PM
Can anyone recommend me some Opeth songs that don't have scary growling?
I love their music but the singer's growling scares me a tad sometime so could someone recommend me some instrumentals or songs with clean singing?

bucket
03-28-2005, 05:03 PM
To Bid You Farewell and A Fair Judgement were the first two Opeth songs I heard. I still love them.



Has any tour information been released regarding the US?

Det_Nosnip
03-28-2005, 06:54 PM
Oh, the post kind of confused me. I didn't read the whole quote.

Disaster averted.

Sorry. :)

Flynn
03-28-2005, 07:48 PM
Opeth isn't Metallica.

Opeth is ten trillion times better.



That was the best post yet! :lol:















Shadows skulk at my coming
We survey the slopes
In search for the words to write the missing page
The tainted dogma

Time grows short
As the piper plays his time
We are almost there

You are beyond all help
Dancing into the void
We are almost there

Deth
03-28-2005, 08:17 PM
As for non-growling songs, maybe the first 2 albums which is a different singing style and The Drapery Falls, which has a little at the end.

Nostalgia
03-28-2005, 09:06 PM
Ok, lol im kind of hesitate to post this but has anyone ever got teary eyed or sad once they listened to opeth? I saw this thread and I heard great things about them, so I wanted to see what the fuss was about so I went out and bought Blackwater park...it blew me away I was hooked, and every now and then when I hear The Drapery Falls I still start to cry a little bit. I hope I'm not the only one

Cain
03-28-2005, 11:10 PM
The interlude to "Bleak" has moved me to tears. When you hear all the instruments coming together like that, it's powerful.

the2stranger
03-29-2005, 12:41 AM
in my tme of need has that effect on me, the mellotron jsut sounds so, sad :(

bball_1523
03-29-2005, 01:40 AM
Ok, lol im kind of hesitate to post this but has anyone ever got teary eyed or sad once they listened to opeth? I saw this thread and I heard great things about them, so I wanted to see what the fuss was about so I went out and bought Blackwater park...it blew me away I was hooked, and every now and then when I hear The Drapery Falls I still start to cry a little bit. I hope I'm not the only one

I don't cry, but there are times where I feel like I'm about to get teary eyed and want to cry, but don't. I guess I just think about things in my life when I'm listening to Opeth songs, and during the depressing parts or whatever, I feel that way. I like it thought, it makes me feel good.

Grey Incision
03-29-2005, 03:21 AM
I really do hate to say this, but i personally think that Mikael's performance on the opeth dvd was bland, especially in the clean vocals department. all in all though, it was a good group performance

jpshortstuff
03-29-2005, 05:46 AM
ive been told about Opeth by a few people, but i dont know which album to start with. Can anyone recommend something?

ArcLite
03-29-2005, 05:47 AM
Start with Blackwater Park.

jpshortstuff
03-29-2005, 05:49 AM
cheers
some people also say Deliverence but i saw some crap reviews

PaulG
03-29-2005, 05:50 AM
Yeh, either go with Blackwater Park or Still Life.

ArcLite
03-29-2005, 05:51 AM
Deliverance doesn't really encompass what Opeth is all about. Blackwater Park is what got me into them, and still remains my favorite album. I love all their albums but Blackwater Park, Still Life, and Morning Rise are my top three.

Grey Incision
03-29-2005, 06:09 AM
I say, Blackwater park, still life, or My arms your hearse, it has some Opeth favourites, such as When, and Demon of the fall, i think MAYH is definatly one to check out

the2stranger
03-29-2005, 06:46 AM
start with blackwater park IMO

and after that, buy all their albums, and their dvd


I really do hate to say this, but i personally think that Mikael's performance on the opeth dvd was bland, especially in the clean vocals department. all in all though, it was a good group performance
really? :eek:
I thought the dvd was ace, and if there is one thing I didn't like all that much, than it is that he can't do his growls as long live as on studio albums.
on studio he seems to growl for 10 sec without any show of effort, but on the dvd it's more short bursts of growls.

Deth
03-29-2005, 08:32 AM
I also thought he was amazing on the DVD, but to each his own.

Det_Nosnip
03-29-2005, 11:12 AM
start with blackwater park IMO

and after that, buy all their albums, and their dvd



really? :eek:
I thought the dvd was ace, and if there is one thing I didn't like all that much, than it is that he can't do his growls as long live as on studio albums.
on studio he seems to growl for 10 sec without any show of effort, but on the dvd it's more short bursts of growls.

He does alot of overdubbing/multiple tracks for studio recordings.

Firecracker
03-29-2005, 11:31 AM
"In My Time Of Need" is God like.

Flynn
03-29-2005, 11:45 AM
The interlude to "Bleak" has moved me to tears. When you hear all the instruments coming together like that, it's powerful.


Indeed, I know exactly what you're talking about. :)

Flynn
03-29-2005, 11:48 AM
ive been told about Opeth by a few people, but i dont know which album to start with. Can anyone recommend something?


I'd go from beginning to latest if I were you...

Orchid, Morningrise, My Arms, Your Hearse, Still Life, Blackwater Park, Deliverance, ****ation.

So you can live the progression as if Orchid just came out. :D

the2stranger
03-29-2005, 12:06 PM
"In My Time Of Need" is God like.
ow yes, man I jsut love the sound of the mollotron the choir like voice is so amazing.

if only I could find out the chords SW pays there :(

relliK
03-29-2005, 04:13 PM
I really do hate to say this, but i personally think that Mikael's performance on the opeth dvd was bland, especially in the clean vocals department. all in all though, it was a good group performance

I personally thought his clean vocals were great.Very few vocalists sound as good as they do on albums.But Mikael sounded great.Much better than I expected.Perhaps a little less reverb on the mic would have been better.


Anyway, I keep finding these 2 guitar lesson videos on Kazaa that are supposedly Opeth.Anyone know about these.I want to know if they are legit before I download them.

relliK
03-29-2005, 04:17 PM
Ok, lol im kind of hesitate to post this but has anyone ever got teary eyed or sad once they listened to opeth? I saw this thread and I heard great things about them, so I wanted to see what the fuss was about so I went out and bought Blackwater park...it blew me away I was hooked, and every now and then when I hear The Drapery Falls I still start to cry a little bit. I hope I'm not the only one

All man, the first solo on The Leper Affinity almost turned me into a pouting little schoolgirl.The whole song did.I was in a soothing trance like I've never felt before, then that solo came in and I was like "holy ****"!!

It was the closest I came to crying in like 4 years.Not because of a tragedy, or a break up, but because of Opeth :lol:

Mr. Squiggles
03-29-2005, 04:44 PM
Opeth are quickly becoming one of my favorite bands. I love how they swich from hardcore kinda stuff to more mellow stuff. They are one of the most interesting styles of music I have ever heard.

Cardboard Headgear
03-29-2005, 04:49 PM
Anyway, I keep finding these 2 guitar lesson videos on Kazaa that are supposedly Opeth.Anyone know about these.I want to know if they are legit before I download them.
It's from guitar.com from a few years ago. It's basically Mikael showing you how to play the different riffs from The Drapery Falls while Mendez and Peter sit around looking bored.

i am the robots
03-29-2005, 04:49 PM
The interlude to "Bleak" has moved me to tears. When you hear all the instruments coming together like that, it's powerful.

Oh my God yes.

I have to say though, "The Drapery Falls," is their greatest work, seriously, the music is just so.... epic.

bucket
03-29-2005, 05:31 PM
What's a mellotron?

relliK
03-29-2005, 06:26 PM
It's from guitar.com from a few years ago. It's basically Mikael showing you how to play the different riffs from The Drapery Falls while Mendez and Peter sit around looking bored.

Thanks.I'll download it.

What's a mellotron?

Its a keyboard I believe.I could be wrong though.

Det_Nosnip
03-29-2005, 07:34 PM
Yeah, it's an old fashioned electronic synthesizer type thing. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the Beatles used one in "Strawberry Fields."

Dude3
03-29-2005, 07:55 PM
Sorry for the stupid question, but do you guys know of any good websites that carry Opeth shirts? I'm looking to get one, but I'm looking for one that isn't black. My entire wardrobe is black, and I need a shirt that has some other color. Any website would be appreciated.

Kage
03-29-2005, 08:17 PM
Jonny Greenwood uses a mellotron a lot, as do a quite a few prog bands I believe. It's a keyboard/synthesiser thing that resonates with a reverbing sound, or something to that effect. That's what I've heard at least.

In response to post above; if you're looking for colored shirts other than black, I'm not sure Opeth is the band to do so with :P

whatduffhuck7
03-29-2005, 09:07 PM
Sorry for the stupid question, but do you guys know of any good websites that carry Opeth shirts? I'm looking to get one, but I'm looking for one that isn't black. My entire wardrobe is black, and I need a shirt that has some other color. Any website would be appreciated.

itle be hard to find a opeth **** thats not black, just go to the official or some fan opeth site and click merch

relliK
03-29-2005, 09:13 PM
www.blastwaves.com has a small selection of shirts.

Dude3
03-29-2005, 09:17 PM
yea, it would be hard to find Opeth shirts that aren't black.
Whatever, I'll get one anyway.

Dancin' Man
03-29-2005, 10:22 PM
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321765

All of you go there. I made it for you.

the2stranger
03-30-2005, 03:55 AM
the one Opeth shirt that isn't too black ( it's still black), is the d'amnation shirt, with the white dámnation cover.

I have one Opeth t shirt, with the cover of the BWP album, and Mikeal, Peter, Martin and Martin on the back.

ArcLite
03-30-2005, 04:04 AM
Sorry for the stupid question, but do you guys know of any good websites that carry Opeth shirts? I'm looking to get one, but I'm looking for one that isn't black. My entire wardrobe is black, and I need a shirt that has some other color. Any website would be appreciated.

http://rockabilia.com/bcat.asp?flt=769&cat=119

Has one white shirt...

Deth
03-30-2005, 09:22 AM
The first of the Sounds of the Underground with Opeth dates have been announced.

Hopefully it'll come closer than 3 hours away with the next announcements.

the2stranger
03-30-2005, 09:37 AM
and I hope tey announce some more European tourdates, just Viena isn't enough :upset:

I mean I live in Holland
that's way too far

Deth
03-30-2005, 09:38 AM
For your sake I hope that as well.

the2stranger
03-30-2005, 09:45 AM
thank you :)

I will see porcupine tree, and messhugah in a bit :)
and I'm going to the rock werchter festival, which has a nice line up:

http://www.rockwerchter.be

oh yeah
NIN
rammstein
krafwerk
QOTSA
Mars volta

not too bad ;)

Deth
03-30-2005, 09:48 AM
I envy you. The US never gets any good festivals.

the2stranger
03-30-2005, 09:54 AM
which I find weird, do you have ozzfest this year?


in my area ther e are loads of festivals, keeps my life bearable

you shoukd visit Europe :thumb:
Holland is a nice country

Deth
03-30-2005, 09:56 AM
Well, Ozzfest kind of counts, but since I'm not getting Maiden, and it's mostly smaller bands, I wouldn't put it on the same level as say Download or Reading.

IvortheEngineDriver
03-30-2005, 10:10 AM
^^^
Same problem. I live smack **** right in the middle of the US, in the South and have to drive a good 2-6 hours to see anything. Dallas is where I've gone for most of my concerts, but I was supposed to see Opeth last year, but it snowed that day and Oklahoma City (where they were playnig) was apparantly covered in ice, so I didn't go :upset:

But yeah, Ozzfest usualy sucks. I only want to see like 3 bands on the whole list, don't want to pay a lot for something I dont really want to use. You guys in Europe got it made :(

the2stranger
03-30-2005, 10:17 AM
but yu had tickets, but coulnd't go?

wow, that must beone of the worst events in your life I guess.
or atleast for me it would be, I would kill to see Opeth.

I talked with some dude a while back ,and he was supposed to go to a Tool gig, with a friend, and the friend lost the tickets or something. I would have killed the friend**




** /me is quite pacifistic

i am the robots
03-30-2005, 11:13 AM
but yu had tickets, but coulnd't go?

wow, that must beone of the worst events in your life I guess.
or atleast for me it would be, I would kill to see Opeth.

I talked with some dude a while back ,and he was supposed to go to a Tool gig, with a friend, and the friend lost the tickets or something. I would have killed the friend**




** /me is quite pacifistic
Aside from your spelling errors, I completely agree.

Grey Incision
03-31-2005, 12:05 AM
well, i was meant to see A perfect circle in the Hordern pavillipn. I had a couple of drinks before leaving.........and ended up never leaving............****

excuse typing errors, i have a reallly sucky eye infection thats ****ing sigt up

relliK
03-31-2005, 04:00 AM
I cant wait for that Bloodbath DVD to come out.I'd pay lots of money to see Mikael on stage with a mic and no guitar.Just to see if he'd go ****in nuts on stage.

Grey Incision
03-31-2005, 04:06 AM
yeah, fvck i wish i had some money!!!:(

Firecracker
03-31-2005, 04:07 AM
"In My Time Of Need" is like the only one i've liked, it's just such a good song, but i haven't been able to connect with the other songs, name some one's which are as good as this song please, to get me started.

Cardboard Headgear
03-31-2005, 04:09 AM
Well, uh, what have you already heard? Try Windowpane and To Bid You Farewell.

Grey Incision
03-31-2005, 04:10 AM
windowpane
to bid you farewell
To rid the disease
hope leaves
Face of melinda

Firecracker
03-31-2005, 06:23 AM
Cheers then.

Det_Nosnip
03-31-2005, 02:53 PM
Don't forget Harvest!

i am the robots
03-31-2005, 03:08 PM
Don't forget Death Whispered A Lullaby!

fixed :wave:

bucket
03-31-2005, 05:57 PM
I went into Sam Goody a day or two ago and I looked for Still Life. Of course, the latest 3 albums are the only ones they carry, so I go try to have them order it for me. I say I want Opeth- Still Life and the worker tells me that they don't have that CD to order and lists every album EXCEPT Still Life :angry:

Then I asked for King Crimson- Red, which also is not on the able-to-order list :notasangry:

Why can't Sam Goody get me Still Life, but every other Opeth CD? I guess I'll have to look on the internet :-\

i am the robots
03-31-2005, 06:16 PM
I went into Sam Goody a day or two ago and I looked for Still Life. Of course, the latest 3 albums are the only ones they carry, so I go try to have them order it for me. I say I want Opeth- Still Life and the worker tells me that they don't have that CD to order and lists every album EXCEPT Still Life :angry:

Then I asked for King Crimson- Red, which also is not on the able-to-order list :notasangry:

Why can't Sam Goody get me Still Life, but every other Opeth CD? I guess I'll have to look on the internet :-\

Go to FYE, they normally have every Opeth album but My Arms, Your Hearse

Det_Nosnip
03-31-2005, 06:21 PM
Screw Sam Goody, they overprice everything anyways. Best Buy is better.

bucket
03-31-2005, 06:27 PM
Unfortunately I don't live close to either of those stores.

I went to Virgin Records in Chicago and they didn't have SL :(. They had an escalator to the second floor of the store, but nope... no SL.

Deth
03-31-2005, 08:01 PM
Best Buy only had the latest 3 plus Orchid for some reason near me, making Orchid my second Opeth album.

relliK
03-31-2005, 08:23 PM
Best Buy around here on average has about 12 Damnation copies, 3 Blackwater Park copies, and maybe 1 Deliverance.They had Orchid 1 time.I found My Arms, Your Hearse at Barnes and Nobles of all places!!

I hear Tower Records carries everything by them.I dont know if there is a Tower Records around here though.

Kage
03-31-2005, 08:41 PM
I think Barnes and Nobles might very well be the most common mistake in the English language

My local Best Buy, last time I checked, carried all of the Opeth CDs.

Deth
04-01-2005, 09:30 AM
Best Buy around here on average has about 12 Damnation copies, 3 Blackwater Park copies, and maybe 1 Deliverance.They had Orchid 1 time.I found My Arms, Your Hearse at Barnes and Nobles of all places!!

I hear Tower Records carries everything by them.I dont know if there is a Tower Records around here though.

Where do you live? It's the EXACT same where I live.

South Florida by the way.

bucket
04-01-2005, 10:17 AM
Oh yeah! One week away from getting Still Life!

the2stranger
04-01-2005, 10:25 AM
enjoy dude, i's a great album ;)

/owns all Opeth albums + dvd :cool:

bucket
04-01-2005, 05:10 PM
Blackwater Park is usually a good one for a starter. It's one of my favorites.

Plus it's not too hard to find.

Cain
04-01-2005, 05:40 PM
Today I bought Still Life, it's my first Opeth album and I really like it. Anyone recommend me another Opeth album?

BWP. Definitely. Too bad you already got my favorite Opeth album. :)

relliK
04-01-2005, 10:41 PM
Where do you live? It's the EXACT same where I live.

South Florida by the way.

:lol: Southern California.I guess Best Buy sucks extra hard in our areas.No Lamentations DVDs either.

Magicaltroll
04-01-2005, 10:45 PM
:lol: Southern California.I guess Best Buy sucks extra hard in our areas.No Lamentations DVDs either.
There was a shelf of Lamentation DVD's... in the rich Best Buy (which is on the other side of town for me, but luckily, I went with my.... nevermind :D )

And theres also some good CD's in there too.
I live in Vegas.

Adam Jones is GOD
04-02-2005, 06:06 AM
Would one of you good people please try and confirm for me whether Opeth are at Download again this year. im hearing lots of lovely rumours about it, but cannot self confirm any.

bucket
04-03-2005, 12:41 PM
What does everyone think of the Sounds of Underground Tour?

I'll have to drive several hours if I want to go.

All the info is on opeth.com

Deth
04-03-2005, 05:08 PM
Opeth were at Download last year, and with the recording, I doubt they'll make it this year.

SOTU Tour looks alright. If it comes close, I might go.

NP: Megadeth-Poison Was the Cure

Grey Incision
04-06-2005, 03:41 AM
bloody hell, i found this on the 7th page or something, you wouldn't think their new album was being recorded this very minute with this kind of emptiness, where'd all the opeth fans go?

G_Mac07
04-06-2005, 05:12 AM
I'm here :wave:

I'm disappointed at the lack of copiesof BWP in stock at the music stores I usually go to, I still haven't got it. Any news on a release date for their new album?

PaulG
04-06-2005, 05:23 AM
None, as of yet.

the2stranger
04-06-2005, 06:12 AM
bloody hell, i found this on the 7th page or something, you wouldn't think their new album was being recorded this very minute with this kind of emptiness, where'd all the opeth fans go?



there isn't much interest in the DT forum too, weird.

but that said, there isn't much to talk about, I haven't heard any news on Opeth since they entered he studios, halfway last month :(

so any news? :chug:

opeth_oasis
04-06-2005, 06:18 AM
I wish there was some news, it would make this thread active again. I expect the album should come out around late may perhaps?

the2stranger
04-06-2005, 06:53 AM
I think late summer, look at DT, they finished recording a while back, and not releasing till june 7th :(

they should update a bit :)

Deth
04-06-2005, 08:34 AM
I'm going to order Still Life and MAYH tonight hopefully.

/is very happy.

Mazeppa
04-06-2005, 08:44 AM
Still Life is excellent. It's my only Opeth album so far, I wanna get more some time.

Deth
04-06-2005, 09:12 AM
As long as my friend with Amazon Prime doesn't forget, I should have them in about a week.

the2stranger
04-06-2005, 12:21 PM
prepare to listen to a great album :thumb:

Deth
04-06-2005, 08:22 PM
Looks like I'll have to wait to order till tomorrow because he's being a pansy about it.

/Sadly sits with only 3 Opeth albums.

Daven
04-06-2005, 08:27 PM
when is the new album coming out?

Darkness
04-06-2005, 08:36 PM
I know you guys have heard this 100 times, but I bought blackwater a while back and am ready for more..I heard Still Life would be the next best... any help?

ytsedrummer
04-06-2005, 08:47 PM
when is the new album coming out?
Sometime this year apparently.

Gibbers3095
04-06-2005, 09:02 PM
I wish Opeth wasn't going to be in such a ****ty tour. Aside from Opeth, there are maybe one or two bands that are any good. Look at the list of groups, Opeth will be like a diamond in the rough.

Shmike
04-06-2005, 09:06 PM
I heard rumours about a Halloween release date.

Drum_and_Bass_Guy89
04-06-2005, 09:07 PM
I heard rumours about a Halloween release date.

Halloween, really :upset: Thats a long time

bucket
04-06-2005, 09:08 PM
I haven't heard any of those bands besides Devil Driver and they alone are almost enough to drive me away from going. I'm afraid of what the other bands are like seeing as I have heard nothing good about most of them. I'll have to drive 3 or 4 hours to see them if I decide to.

Is this tour going to be like Oz Fest? I'd really like to hear Opeth but how many songs does each band get usually?

themoor666
04-06-2005, 09:10 PM
yea looks like that tour syphons fecal juice out of the rectum of a bovine via bendy straw

Gibbers3095
04-06-2005, 09:18 PM
yea looks like that tour syphons fecal juice out of the rectum of a bovine via bendy straw

Damn you're good!

(Makes small reference to Lamentations DVD)

relliK
04-06-2005, 11:30 PM
I dont know, D+D were written and recorded in a little over 2 months.They finished them in September 02, and Deliverance was released in November 02.So hopefully they wont take olong to release this after the finish it.

bball_1523
04-07-2005, 12:10 AM
I dont know, D+D were written and recorded in a little over 2 months.They finished them in September 02, and Deliverance was released in November 02.So hopefully they wont take olong to release this after the finish it.

I think Opeth should take as much time as they can to PERFECT this new album. I understand that Opeth might've been on a tight budget/schedule for the past two albums, and the two albums are AWESOME anyway, but I'd rather have quality or haste. But either way, I'd love to hear any new opeth, as long as they don't take the Metallica route.

Cain
04-07-2005, 12:28 AM
I think Opeth should take as much time as they can to PERFECT this new album. I understand that Opeth might've been on a tight budget/schedule for the past two albums, and the two albums are AWESOME anyway, but I'd rather have quality or haste. But either way, I'd love to hear any new opeth, as long as they don't take the Metallica route.

They're not gonna turn into the next Metallica. No worries. And the making of the last two albums were so harrowing that Opeth are making sure to actually rehearse and be very well-prepared for the recording sessions. Mikael said he wanted to go in with all the music totally finished.

Grey Incision
04-07-2005, 01:21 AM
HE also said that they say it about all the albums they do :p and look what happened

opeth_oasis
04-07-2005, 03:37 AM
i hope it is released soon, but i guess the longer they take the better it will be

Deth
04-07-2005, 08:31 AM
Well, let's hope.

the2stranger
04-07-2005, 02:38 PM
/wants a teaser.

they should launch a minisite like PT's Deadwing. that would be cool,

Deth
04-07-2005, 07:57 PM
I really don't want to hear any of it until the album is released and I'm able to lie in my bed with my rocking stereo up way loud.

And listen to it 5 times in a row.

bucket
04-07-2005, 09:56 PM
I found the perfect way to describe to people that Opeth is not necessarily "devil music" because of the growls.

All of my friends claim I listen to devil music (Opeth), but until recently I have not been able to convince them that Opeth is not singing about the devil.

Let's take a band they like, or at least have heard about, Guns N Roses. Now what does Axel sound like? Now my opinion is that he sounds like a dying cat, but just because he sounds like that does not mean he sings about dead cats does it? No. At least from what I have heard...

:fails at making sense:

:thumb:

Kage
04-07-2005, 10:18 PM
I guess it's not a bad analogy, although there might be better ones to be found :p

Det_Nosnip
04-07-2005, 11:54 PM
I found the perfect way to describe to people that Opeth is not necessarily "devil music" because of the growls.

All of my friends claim I listen to devil music (Opeth), but until recently I have not been able to convince them that Opeth is not singing about the devil.

Let's take a band they like, or at least have heard about, Guns N Roses. Now what does Axel sound like? Now my opinion is that he sounds like a dying cat, but just because he sounds like that does not mean he sings about dead cats does it? No. At least from what I have heard...

:fails at making sense:

:thumb:

How about you point out that there probably ISN'T a devil, and even if there was, he would probably not come screaming out like that, would he? A million cross wielding Christians would jump him! The devil would be a crafty, smooth, probably very attractive. To be a nerd and quote the lord of the rings: he would appear fair, but feel foul.

Or you could point out that, regardless of what it sounds like, that is still a human being growling there. What does that say? Human beings, particularly superstitious ones, often feel a need to displace "good" and "evil." People who do bad things are somehow...not human in the same way that normal people are, just as people we call "saints" are not. Jesus Christ had to be a God for us to believe in him just as Hitler has to be a monster. This is all bull****, though. What people need to realize is that everything is human; we are capable of great good and great evil. We are capable of great beauty - Anneke Van Giersbergen's voice, or Mikael's singing voice - and great savagery/intensity/"devilishness." Mikael's growls are cool because they push the limits of what human beings are capable of doing with their voice - people can't accept that the sounds he makes come from a human voice, so they have to label it according to some mythical creature.

Or, you could just tell them to **** off. :p

Deth
04-08-2005, 08:58 AM
I like the second option and then turning up Black Rose Immortal in front of them.

the2stranger
04-08-2005, 10:11 AM
How about you point out that there probably ISN'T a devil, and even if there was, he would probably not come screaming out like that, would he? A million cross wielding Christians would jump him! The devil would be a crafty, smooth, probably very attractive. To be a nerd and quote the lord of the rings: he would appear fair, but feel foul.

Or you could point out that, regardless of what it sounds like, that is still a human being growling there. What does that say? Human beings, particularly superstitious ones, often feel a need to displace "good" and "evil." People who do bad things are somehow...not human in the same way that normal people are, just as people we call "saints" are not. Jesus Christ had to be a God for us to believe in him just as Hitler has to be a monster. This is all bull****, though. What people need to realize is that everything is human; we are capable of great good and great evil. We are capable of great beauty - Anneke Van Giersbergen's voice, or Mikael's singing voice - and great savagery/intensity/"devilishness." Mikael's growls are cool because they push the limits of what human beings are capable of doing with their voice - people can't accept that the sounds he makes come from a human voice, so they have to label it according to some mythical creature.

Or, you could just tell them to **** off. :p


nice one dude!

people should just respect eachother's choices and not whine about being devil(worschippers) or God know's what terms some people throw around.

and if people want to critiseze they should atleast have arguments, , lots of people fail at the arguments part :p

np: Opeth - A fair judgement., live at sheperds bush :D ( ripped it from the dvd and turned it to mp3 files :cool:

Deth
04-10-2005, 04:01 PM
np: Opeth - A fair judgement., live at sheperds bush :D ( ripped it from the dvd and turned it to mp3 files :cool:
Sweet.

Arise II
04-10-2005, 04:12 PM
Hiya. I'm sorta new to Opeth, and I want to know what album to buy.

I've listened to a few songs, and the one that really stands out to me is Blackwater Park (I like the more ballad-ish songs to, but they sorta gets into the background after a while, and I stop noticing that their playing)

So, what CD's should I get (from what I've heard, the rest of the Blackwater... album is pretty much only ballads, so I prolly wont be getting that one)

Special Brew
04-10-2005, 05:00 PM
I started with Orchid. Usually the best starter albums are either Deliverance, Blackwater park or Still Life I think. But it really depends on what your tastes currently are. The first time I heard Opeth I thought they were like Porcupintree because the first song I heard was Harvest. Until then I never could get into much death-ish metal. So it's kinda hard to choose a starting point not knowing your tastes. I say Blackwater Park but you said you wouldn't be getting that one, so I'd go for Still Life if I was you.

Flynn
04-10-2005, 05:30 PM
I found the perfect way to describe to people that Opeth is not necessarily "devil music" because of the growls.

All of my friends claim I listen to devil music (Opeth), but until recently I have not been able to convince them that Opeth is not singing about the devil.

Let's take a band they like, or at least have heard about, Guns N Roses. Now what does Axel sound like? Now my opinion is that he sounds like a dying cat, but just because he sounds like that does not mean he sings about dead cats does it? No. At least from what I have heard...

:fails at making sense:

:thumb:




I disagree. Axel sounds like Fran Drescher being strangled with barbed-wire under water.

Flynn
04-10-2005, 05:32 PM
Looks like I'll have to wait to order till tomorrow because he's being a pansy about it.

/Sadly sits with only 3 Opeth albums.





...Or you can DL Limewire :)

Iron Man
04-10-2005, 05:40 PM
I made a point to buy all 7 albums, Lamentations, and a Still Life T-shirt with my own money. I'm such a fanboy.

Grey Incision
04-10-2005, 07:42 PM
I think the best starter album, judging by your tastes, would either be My arms your hearse, or Deliverance, the two heavier albums

Juicy_Forlorn
04-10-2005, 08:01 PM
Hi all. Could you guys tell me if there are any more Opeth instrumentals other than:
Ending Credits
Epilogue
For Absent Friends
Madrigal
Patterns in the Ivy
Silhouette
Requiem

Any replies will be appreciated.

Magicaltroll
04-10-2005, 08:46 PM
...Or you can DL Limewire :)
:eek:
NEVER!
jk, do it. You'll be alot happier with your life :thumb:

Grey Incision
04-10-2005, 09:02 PM
Hi all. Could you guys tell me if there are any more Opeth instrumentals other than:
Ending Credits
Epilogue
For Absent Friends
Madrigal
Patterns in the Ivy
Silhouette
Requiem

Any replies will be appreciated.

Nope, that's all

bucket
04-10-2005, 09:18 PM
So my Still Life CD came into the store I ordered it from on Friday. Lucky for me I left my lights on. Well, I kind of left them on. You see, when you leave them on and open the door, no warning sound is made and the lights turn off, but the parking lights stay on. What the hell.

So my gay parking lights drained my battery. I had it jumped, but by that time the store was closed and they're only open two days a week! :-\

I'll get it Tuesday... hopefully

Deth
04-11-2005, 09:16 AM
...Or you can DL Limewire :)
I don't download, especially not Opeth.

Det_Nosnip
04-11-2005, 10:43 AM
Hiya. I'm sorta new to Opeth, and I want to know what album to buy.

I've listened to a few songs, and the one that really stands out to me is Blackwater Park (I like the more ballad-ish songs to, but they sorta gets into the background after a while, and I stop noticing that their playing)

So, what CD's should I get (from what I've heard, the rest of the Blackwater... album is pretty much only ballads, so I prolly wont be getting that one)

:lol: Wow, if you think that the rest of BWP is ballads...:eek:

I'll just say this: only one song on BWP does not feature Mikael growling, and that is Harvest. (err...and the instrumental :p ). They are long, progressive songs, not short+fast numbers, so don't turn it off just because it starts with clean vocals or an acoustic guitar (GOD, I NEVER thought I would have to give THAT advice!! :lol: ).

laura_au
04-11-2005, 11:19 AM
i have to thank God for limewire. limewire enabled me to download every single album that OPETH had.

the best word to describe OPETH is simply beautiful. not aggressive, beautiful. all their albums are consistent from orchid to blcakwater park.
i can say that there is no band out there that can top OPETHS work this days

Triangle
04-11-2005, 12:18 PM
I'm currently digging Delieverance :cool:

alurny
04-11-2005, 02:22 PM
I started and currently only own still life but it is one hell of a fantastic album, absolutely awesome in every aspect. Beautiful.

Deth
04-11-2005, 03:43 PM
i have to thank God for limewire. limewire enabled me to download every single album that OPETH had.

the best word to describe OPETH is simply beautiful. not aggressive, beautiful. all their albums are consistent from orchid to blcakwater park.
i can say that there is no band out there that can top OPETHS work this days
I hope you're buying them now.

Arise II
04-11-2005, 04:12 PM
:lol: Wow, if you think that the rest of BWP is ballads...:eek:

I'll just say this: only one song on BWP does not feature Mikael growling, and that is Harvest. (err...and the instrumental :p ). They are long, progressive songs, not short+fast numbers, so don't turn it off just because it starts with clean vocals or an acoustic guitar (GOD, I NEVER thought I would have to give THAT advice!! :lol: ).

Now, that I would not do. IMO, the longer a somng is (and more contrast-filled) the better. Its just that of all the Opeth songs I've downloaded, most of them were just clean and acoustic throughout

Cain
04-11-2005, 04:53 PM
Now, that I would not do. IMO, the longer a somng is (and more contrast-filled) the better. Its just that of all the Opeth songs I've downloaded, most of them were just clean and acoustic throughout

You're listening to too many songs off Damnation, it sounds like.

Darkness
04-11-2005, 06:57 PM
I'm sure you all know that Opeth is playing in the Sounds of the Underground tour... But do you know if there going to Edmonton, Alberta? (Canada)

Deth
04-11-2005, 08:24 PM
Let me check out the dates for you.


Your lucky day! July 28th.

I can't go because it's four hours away from where I live and I will be in England.

Moses
04-11-2005, 08:58 PM
Wow I can't believe I haven't posted in here yet.

Any way I don't have any albums but once I get some money It's all going to Opeth. First I'll buy Blackwater Park, because it's got my favorite songs on there like, BWP and The Drapery Falls. Next I'll probably buy Morningrise because I like Black Rose Immortal alot. After that I don't know.

bucket
04-12-2005, 01:42 PM
****ing **** I just got Still Life!

:cool:

Just started The Moor :cool:

:thumb:

:cool:

:amaze:

Prince of Darkness
04-12-2005, 01:53 PM
I have three tickets to the Sounds of the Underground but only I can go....2 spares...

Det_Nosnip
04-12-2005, 02:39 PM
Now, that I would not do. IMO, the longer a somng is (and more contrast-filled) the better. Its just that of all the Opeth songs I've downloaded, most of them were just clean and acoustic throughout

"The Drapery Falls," off of BWP, is something like 10 or 11 minutes long, and by the end of it gets through everything. "The Lepar Affinity" is long as well, and is heavy throughout the entire song except for a short acoustic break at the end. "Bleak" goes back and forth and is just overall badass.

I really don't see how you could listen to more than 1 song from Blackwater Park and say it's all ballads. :lol: As someone else mentioned, you probably were getting songs from ****ation, which was a special experimental album that the band did that was intended to be all soft/acoustic music that was still dark and heavy in its own way.

Darkness
04-12-2005, 05:22 PM
Let me check out the dates for you.


Your lucky day! July 28th.

I can't go because it's four hours away from where I live and I will be in England.

Are you sure Opeth will be playing though? That date isn't on their site...

Deth
04-13-2005, 03:13 PM
For sure. They would have announced if they couldn't do all of the shows.

Check it at http://soundsoftheundergroundtour.com.

Grey Incision
04-14-2005, 10:41 PM
as soon as i can learn to growl, my bands covering demon of the fall :) we can play it, just can't sing it

bball_1523
04-15-2005, 01:49 AM
no so.cal shows for the summer tour? I don't wanna drive 6 hours north to just watch opeth play with a bunch of metalcore bands. lol

Deth
04-15-2005, 08:52 AM
as soon as i can learn to growl, my bands covering demon of the fall :) we can play it, just can't sing it
I can growl with it for a verse or two and then my throat gives out.

Maybe I'm just weak :upset:.

Grey Incision
04-15-2005, 08:56 AM
I can growl with it for a verse or two and then my throat gives out.

Maybe I'm just weak :upset:.

i just need to know how to growl, hahaha :p

Deth
04-15-2005, 08:57 AM
Practice, young padawan. The problem is doing it for any sustained amount of time.

the2stranger
04-15-2005, 09:02 AM
I can growl 2 or 3 songs, it's just a pain in the a$s to to clean after the growls

Special Brew
04-15-2005, 09:10 AM
I can growl but not as deeply as Mikael, and growling doesn't affect my clean voice much. But I am not a very good clean singer, but I am getting better. I can sing harsh blackmetal vocals pretty well and for a decent amount of time without any problems. I don't know how to get my voice deep enough to do the deathmetal-ish growls, I guess my voice is just a little to high.

Deth
04-15-2005, 09:13 AM
I can all the clean vocals almost perfectly, excluding some of the higher notes he hits and going from a growl to clean isn't a problem, it's just keeping the growling going for a while.

Arise II
04-15-2005, 09:46 AM
I can growl but not as deeply as Mikael, and growling doesn't affect my clean voice much. But I am not a very good clean singer, but I am getting better.

123. I'm thinkin' about getting singing lessons

Deth
04-15-2005, 09:48 AM
Think they do death metal singing?

Arise II
04-15-2005, 10:11 AM
Hahaha, not necessary, I've already got that part down, its the clean singing that needs work

Det_Nosnip
04-15-2005, 11:50 AM
Vocal lessons will help with everything. It's all about learning how to control your voice.

Special Brew
04-15-2005, 12:52 PM
Vocal lessons will help with everything. It's all about learning how to control your voice.

:thumb:

I've been thinking about vocal lessons, but I am taking classical guitar lessons from Larry Long, renting out my former guitar teachers studio every month, and I may be getting piano lessons from some lady about 40 mins away that is supposedly semi-famous. And they all charge a pretty penny for their lessons, so I don't know if I could afford vocal lessons as well. Also, I am extremely shy about singing in front of people I don't know, screaming/harsh singing I do no prob, but singing is embarassing. :upset:

Magicaltroll
04-15-2005, 01:24 PM
:thumb:

I've been thinking about vocal lessons, but I am taking classical guitar lessons from Larry Long, renting out my former guitar teachers studio every month, and I may be getting piano lessons from some lady about 40 mins away that is supposedly semi-famous. And they all charge a pretty penny for their lessons, so I don't know if I could afford vocal lessons as well. Also, I am extremely shy about singing in front of people I don't know, screaming/harsh singing I do no prob, but singing is embarassing. :upset:
I know what you mean about singing man, but if you do play a show or something, just close your eyes or something. And jsut block it out of your mind.

I know... I know... easier said than done.

Det_Nosnip
04-15-2005, 03:36 PM
:thumb:

I've been thinking about vocal lessons, but I am taking classical guitar lessons from Larry Long, renting out my former guitar teachers studio every month, and I may be getting piano lessons from some lady about 40 mins away that is supposedly semi-famous. And they all charge a pretty penny for their lessons, so I don't know if I could afford vocal lessons as well. Also, I am extremely shy about singing in front of people I don't know, screaming/harsh singing I do no prob, but singing is embarassing. :upset:

I know what you mean, I'm kinda the same way. I'm very self conscious about my voice, particularly since alot of my friends are vocal performance majors. :lol: It's really a shame...now I wish I had joined choirs when I was a kid! I'd like to take vocal lessons some time soon, though...piano, too! Piano is probably the most attractive thing for me right now as a melodic instrument, because it's so **** straight forward and easy to understand if you have a decent grasp of music, plus you can easily voice against different sections because pianos have so many octaves.

Bertovo
04-15-2005, 06:59 PM
In Bleak, during the clean parts, is Mikael doing lead vocals, and Steve Wilson doing clean, or the other way around?

Deth
04-15-2005, 07:26 PM
Mikeal's doing everything, but Steven probably added his voice to the mix of the clean vocals as well.

ElectricalStorm
04-15-2005, 11:04 PM
In bleak Mikael does the growling and the clean section is a duet For example at the beginning of the clean section:

"devious movements in your eyes -- steven wilson
Moved me from relief -- Mikael
Breath comes out white clouds with your lies -- steven wilson
And filters through me" -- Mikael

Bertovo
04-16-2005, 12:29 AM
Thanks.

Does that mean they don't play Bleak live?

Or does Mikael just do it by himself?

ElectricalStorm
04-16-2005, 10:37 AM
They don't play bleak live but its most likely because it has multiple guitars layered on to the track (at least four of them). :thumb:

Arise II
04-16-2005, 10:42 AM
^^^I though most Opeth songs had layered guitar. How do they do with all the ones that has acoustic and electric? Doubleneck or really fast switchin? ;)

AblazeMySorrow
04-16-2005, 11:25 AM
great band to sleep to, especaially to Morningrise

Arise II
04-16-2005, 11:45 AM
^^^ I thought I was the only one! Death and Thrash is great for sleeping. People always look at me like I'm insane when I tell them I listen to stuff like Sepultura and the like when goin to bed

i am the robots
04-16-2005, 11:49 AM
^^^ I thought I was the only one! Death and Thrash is great for sleeping. People always look at me like I'm insane when I tell them I listen to stuff like Sepultura and the like when goin to bed

I listen to a lot of Opeth, Dark Tranquilly, and In Flames when I sleep.

But Linkin Park is the best sleeping music, the songs make you have weird dreams.

Did anybody else realize the music they listen to when they sleep effects their dreams?

bball_1523
04-16-2005, 12:22 PM
They don't play bleak live but its most likely because it has multiple guitars layered on to the track (at least four of them). :thumb:


they've played it live before and I have the bootleg to it, AND it sounds awesome.

I listen to lots of metal when I sleep too, but it's mostly melodic and atmospheric type of metal songs such as Symphony X songs, some Opeth.

the2stranger
04-16-2005, 12:28 PM
would you be willing to upload the live version of bleak? :D

i am the robots
04-16-2005, 12:29 PM
they've played it live before and I have the bootleg to it, AND it sounds awesome.

I listen to lots of metal when I sleep too, but it's mostly melodic and atmospheric type of metal songs such as Symphony X songs, some Opeth.

ooh! http://www.yousendit.com

post it PLEASE

Cain
04-16-2005, 12:50 PM
^^^I though most Opeth songs had layered guitar. How do they do with all the ones that has acoustic and electric? Doubleneck or really fast switchin? ;)

Their PRS guitars have piezo pickups in the bridge that allows them to get an acoustic guitar sound. :)

Arise II
04-16-2005, 01:15 PM
^^^ Oh yeah, should have thought of that... I wanna get it installed myself, but apparently, it woull require some serious body carving/routing

PaulRawNerve
04-16-2005, 01:20 PM
an opeth interview on our site from a couple of years ago can be seen here... (http://www.rawnervepromotions.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9880)

tis ace..
:wave:

ElectricalStorm
04-16-2005, 04:05 PM
they've played it live before and I have the bootleg to it, AND it sounds awesome.

I listen to lots of metal when I sleep too, but it's mostly melodic and atmospheric type of metal songs such as Symphony X songs, some Opeth.

Wow, awesome. I hope they play it this summer. Anyone else going to see them? (sounds of the underground tour)

Bertovo
04-16-2005, 04:46 PM
I am going. :)

Infact, the reason I asked about them playing it live, is because I really want to see it at SotU.

ATM
04-16-2005, 04:57 PM
I've got a video from an Opeth concert if anyone wants me to upload it.

relliK
04-16-2005, 06:03 PM
In bleak Mikael does the growling and the clean section is a duet For example at the beginning of the clean section:

"devious movements in your eyes -- steven wilson
Moved me from relief -- Mikael
Breath comes out white clouds with your lies -- steven wilson
And filters through me" -- Mikael

Holy **** I never knew that.I always thought Mikael sounded very different in that part, I guess I know why now.Thanks. :thumb:


I've got a video from an Opeth concert if anyone wants me to upload it.

Please do. :D

-Listy-
04-16-2005, 06:39 PM
I've got a video from an Opeth concert if anyone wants me to upload it.
Go for it :)

Kage
04-16-2005, 07:03 PM
I've got a video from an Opeth concert if anyone wants me to upload it.

Yes.

BradyEB
04-16-2005, 07:27 PM
aye awesome whats the set?

Grey Incision
04-16-2005, 08:53 PM
come on dude, post it

Det_Nosnip
04-16-2005, 11:49 PM
In bleak Mikael does the growling and the clean section is a duet For example at the beginning of the clean section:

"devious movements in your eyes -- steven wilson
Moved me from relief -- Mikael
Breath comes out white clouds with your lies -- steven wilson
And filters through me" -- Mikael

Wow, I never knew that...come to think of it, it makes a whole lot of sense.

i am the robots
04-16-2005, 11:52 PM
In bleak Mikael does the growling and the clean section is a duet For example at the beginning of the clean section:

"devious movements in your eyes -- steven wilson
Moved me from relief -- Mikael
Breath comes out white clouds with your lies -- steven wilson
And filters through me" -- Mikael

yes, but when Steven sings, Mikael sings backing vocals for those lines.

bball_1523
04-17-2005, 01:51 AM
here's a bootleg of Opeth playing "Bleak" live.

http://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=24KZNP3ZDMF9I0382IARD4PE6I

enjoy