Opeth

[Stoo]

I saw Bleak... I actually didn't recognise it at first... I went "ahh Bleak" when I heard the drumming at the start. I really wanna see BWP live.

Why don't they do Serenity Painted Death live?

[TojesDolan]

The pitch harmonics would suck big time.

[Stoo]

Yup, bad pinch harmonics would TOTALLY ruin the song.

[TojesDolan]

Or in Godhead's Lament, for instance, the semi-fast section in the intro, by the lead? There's a video where Peter is completely out of... something, his timing is crap, so the song sounds crap.

MAYH and Still Life's material has very complex guitar arrangements that are difficult to perform live. :-0

[Stoo]

What you think is the best song they perform live?

I'd say like The Leper Affinity or TGC...

[TojesDolan]

I think they give Demon of the Fall a lot of power, nonetheless the softer songs, especially In my time of need has such a power live it makes me shiver.

*shivers*

[BurningSky]

In My Time of Need was great, Mikael got the whole crowd to sing along and put lighters up. Closure, however, is the best. The extended jam at the end is wonderful, and that third riff...just wow...

[repcak]

I'm gonna have to second this, but that doesn't stop me from saying Opeth aren't all that great live. I think they are alot more of a band to be experienced at home. Alot of their songs aren't really designed to be played live and so just don't have the same impact live as they do through the stereo. That being said though there are also songs that just scream to be played live like Demon of the Fall, Deliverance and The Drapery Falls(just to name ones they actually play). But I also think they don't choose their sets to well, because there are songs like The Moor, In Mist She Was Standing and Advent that to me scream to be played live and Opeth just don't. They are really solid live though, no slip ups anywhere.
have you ever been on opeth? have you seen them live?

their live show i've seen was great! listening to Mikaels growl live is so stunning and amazing :eek: it was life-changing :p

[pate]

I've seen them live three times, including one of the Chronology shows. I have seen both Bleak and BWP. :):)

[Daven]

Bleak live must've been awesome.

[pate]

It was very awesome. BWP was as well.

[Daven]

When was this concert?

[TojesDolan]

Chronolgy shows must have been awesome.

[pate]

They did Bleak the first time I saw them, October of last year. They did BWP at the Chronology show. The one I attended was in Chicago on March 2.

[Daven]

Lucky bastard. :p

[pate]

Ya rly. Three times in under a year. :p

[BurningSky]

I saw them in Philly on Halloween last year. They played Bleak and Blackwater Park. I also went to the chronology show in New York. They played The Night and the Silent Water, it was grand...

[pate]

TNATSW was killer!!

[Eliminator]

Last night I noticed that I had My Arms, Your Hearse download, but I deleted it anyway along with all the other stuff I've never listened to.

I'll get it again.

[pate]

Why did you delete it if you're just going to get it again?

[Eliminator]

Because my logic knows no boundaries.

[TojesDolan]

lol

Anyway, I'll buy MAYH first, and then Still Life. GG

[DaveTheAmazing]

I got MAYH today. I've already got Morningrise, Damnation and BWP. I really like Morningrise and Damnation. I think BWP is okay. I can't seem to get into MAYH at all. I love Morningrise for moments like Advent at 8:10 on wards, TNATSW at 07:35 onwards, Nectar at 6:50 onwards, Everything from the 9th minute to the end of the song on BRI, and everything about TBYF. I haven't heard anything like this on MAYH. I've listened to it right through 3 times so far, hasn't grown on me at all

[UpperDecker]

I got MAYH today. I've already got Morningrise, Damnation and BWP. I really like Morningrise and Damnation. I think BWP is okay. I can't seem to get into MAYH at all. I love Morningrise for moments like Advent at 8:10 on wards, TNATSW at 07:35 onwards, Nectar at 6:50 onwards, Everything from the 9th minute to the end of the song on BRI, and everything about TBYF. I haven't heard anything like this on MAYH. I've listened to it right through 3 times so far, hasn't grown on me at all


Try listening to it all the way through while reading the lyrics. Thats what I did when I first got it. I don't know, its a badass cd to me.

[Det_Nosnip]

MAYH is definitely an album that grows on you, but...it never STOPS growing on you, that's the thing - I've found that I like it even more every time I listen to it.

[pate]

Same. My love for it has kept growing and growing.

[Shadows]

That was one of the albums that really got me hooked on Opeth. It sounded so deep.

[TojesDolan]

My Arms, Your Hearse and probably Orhid are growers, you need to listen to them a lot in order to get the beauty they convey.

[Shadows]

Morningrise too, definitely. It's almost impossible to digest a very small number of very long songs in one listen.

[the2stranger]

My Arms, Your Hearse and probably Orhid are growers, you need to listen to them a lot in order to get the beauty they convey.

Growers are the best albums/ songs out there.
I love it when I have to put effort in discovering every aspect of the music and seeing how well it blends together

[Shadows]

I do too, that's why I'm always so disppointed when people say they hate Orchid. :( It's one of the best "grower" albums I've ever heard and it's like people just don't want to put the effort into that one.

[jpshortstuff]

i really want to put the effort into the Opeth albums im not so familiar with (Orchid, MAYH, SL) but i never seem to get round to it. i know i like the songs, but whenever i feel like listening to Opeth i always go for BwP or Deliverence.

[TojesDolan]

I need to listen to Deliverance so badly. :[

I have to wait until I go back home, though.

[Duman]

i really want to put the effort into the Opeth albums im not so familiar with (Orchid, MAYH, SL) but i never seem to get round to it. i know i like the songs, but whenever i feel like listening to Opeth i always go for BwP or Deliverence.

That's what happens to me, except i'm quite familiar with MAYH, in fact, it's one of the best for me. Prologue into the April Ethereal intro is one of Opeth's highlights for me. Not to mention it has songs like Epilogue, Demon of The Fall and The Amen Corner. Lovely :)

[pate]

I do too, that's why I'm always so disppointed when people say they hate Orchid. :( It's one of the best "grower" albums I've ever heard and it's like people just don't want to put the effort into that one.

I've listened to Orchid a ton and I just don't see it standing up as high as the other releases, barring GR.

[Shadows]

And that's very disappointing for me.

[pate]

You're very disappointing to me.

[Captain Quentin]

i don't know why you guys don't like GR much, its definatley a high quality album and i feel its up there with the best opeth material...

[Eliminator]

Except that's it not.

[Captain Quentin]

ill rephrase that, i meant that GR is an awesome album, but opeth has written better stuff, so i don't know why everyone always writes it off.

[Eliminator]

Oh okay.

It's a good album, but it gets kind of boring.

[Thor]

Oh okay.

It's a good album, but it gets kind of boring.
GR kicks most other album's asses, but when compared to great albums like BWP, Deliverance, and Still Life, it just can't compete.

[TojesDolan]

The soft songs are somewhat interesting.

They need more of the BWP soft songs feel, though.

[Neoteric]

I'm listening to Damnation right now, it's so good :)

[Thor]

The soft songs are somewhat interesting.

They need more of the BWP soft songs feel, though.
Or Still Life. Right now I can't get enough of Benighted.

But still, Harvest is a killer track, as well as the Deluxe Edition songs.

[Tyr]

You know that Face of Melinda it's where it's at.

[Thor]

I'm really weird and think that Face of Melinda is the weakest song on the album. :amaze:

[Tyr]

That is an outright lie! But I'm not sure which song I think is the weakest. Probably Moonlapse Vertigo or White Cluster. Don't get me wrong, they are still fantastic, just not as good as the rest of the songs.

[Eliminator]

weakest song is either godhead's lament or serenity painted death

[TojesDolan]

I'm really weird and think that Face of Melinda is the weakest song on the album. :amaze:
My thoughts exactly.

As in, the weakest song.

[beso negro]

My Arms, Your Hearse is a grower, you need to listen to it a lot in order to get the beauty it conveys.

Nah. As a whole maybe, but April, Amen Corner, Demon of the Fall, When and Credence are all acessible songs. I loved them the first time I heard them.

I agree with Orchid though. It took me a while to get into Forest of October and Under the Weeping Moon.

GR kicks most other album's asses, but when compared to great albums like BWP, Deliverance, and Still Life, it just can't compete.

Deliverance is not as good as GR. And that is saying a lot since I don't like GR much.

I'm really weird and think that Face of Melinda is the weakest song on the album. :amaze:

Serenity Painted Death is.

[Tyr]

Serenity Painted Death is the best song on Still Life.

[Thor]

Best = The Moor or Benighted, can't decide

[beso negro]

I liked Serenity Painted Death the first couple times I heard it, but I got quickly tired of it.

I still like the little solo in the first minute. It makes no melodic sense, but it sounds good.

[TojesDolan]

The best is Moonlapse Vertigo.

*stirs up discussion finally*

[132WalrusesInMexico]

I need to get Still Life, but none of the freaking CD stores near me carry it.

[Stoo]

Serenity Painted Death is the best song on Still Life.


I believe it is :cool:

[Neoteric]

Okay, no one is going to agree on weakest track on the album >____<

[Stoo]

Okay, no one is going to agree on weakest track on the album >____<

Wherebouts you from?

[Det_Nosnip]

Yeah, I don't think I could pick a 'weakest' or 'strongest' on SL. "Godhead's" is probably my favorite, but the things that I like about it are obviously different from the things that I like about Benighted or FOM...or even the Moor.

[Apocalypticon]

Best song on Still Life is The Moor easily. The weakest is White Cluster.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

Can someone send me Still Life over MSN?

[Apocalypticon]

I can send you a link for it via email

[132WalrusesInMexico]

Okay, my email is arboles4402@hotmail.com
Thanks.

[beso negro]

I could give it over AIM. It would take a good 3 hours though. :p

Never go to college, they have terrible internetz

[TojesDolan]

Mine is great internets.

Dibs on sending it.

[Shattered_Future]

I can't stand Face Of Melinda.

[TojesDolan]

I can't stand Face Of Melinda.
You are a good man, sir.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

Mine is great internets.

Dibs on sending it.
What is your MSN?

[Det_Nosnip]

I could give it over AIM. It would take a good 3 hours though. :p

Never go to college, they have terrible internetz

That's a GREAT reason not to go to college! :p

[Shattered_Future]

There's that, and there's also the monetary factor involved.

Ted, who's in your avatar? Looks seexxaay.

[pate]

/late

GL and The Moor are my favorites, and Moonlapse Vertigo is probably my least favorite.

[Thor]

/late

GL and The Moor are my favorites, and Moonlapse Vertigo is probably my least favorite.
Ok, I'll rank the entire album in terms of what I like the most.

1. The Moor
2. Benighted
3. Godhead's Lament
4. Serenity Painted Death
5. White Cluster
6. Moonlapse Vertigo
7. Face of Melinda

I like them all, however. But The Moor takes the cake. Gotta love that intro and opening heavy riff.

[pate]

Ranking them is tough...it's tied for my favorite Opeth album.

[Thor]

Nah, this is their third best. BWP and Deliverance are better IMO.

[pate]

OMG list time!!

1. BWP
1. SL
3. MAYH
4. Damnation
5. Deliverence
6. MR
7. GR
8. Orchid

[beso negro]

Now where were we?

oh yes the lists:

1. Still Life
2. Blackwater Park
3. Orchid
4. MAYH
5. Morningrise
6. Damnation
7. GR
8. Deliverance

[TojesDolan]

I prefered the part of the discussion with what's who's favorite song and stuff.

-_-

[Det_Nosnip]

There's that, and there's also the monetary factor involved.

Ted, who's in your avatar? Looks seexxaay.

Azam Ali. As stated, the one thing hotter than her is her voice. :naughty:

In all honesty, though...she's an amazing musician.

[Stoo]

Nothing wrong with lists... It;s good if you have never heard Opeth. Just because not very many new users post in here, doesn't mean there not reading. I know the lists guys made helped me in the beginning. :cool:

However, I cannot be arsed making any kind of list. Although I feel like I should as Kage does my tits in.

[superpeer]

Okay, let's all stfu now.

[Tyr]

In all honesty, though...she's an amazing musician.

Very true.

[Det_Nosnip]

Nah, this is their third best. BWP and Deliverance are better IMO.

You've got to be joking! Although I like Deliverance, I'd never put it ahead of Still Life. That's pure blasphemy.

[Kage]

What the hell, Superpeer? You can't discuss anything controversial? We're all just supposed to agree all the time?

[VomitStainedCretin]

You've got to be joking! Although I like Deliverance, I'd never put it ahead of Still Life. That's pure blasphemy.

I prefer the atmosphere/feel of Deliverance, but I feel SL might edge it out on song quality and variety.

[Stoo]

Deliverance? Atmosphere?

[Kage]

Deliverance? Atmosphere?
I was thinking the same thing.

[Stoo]

I'v started thinking Deliverance and Damnation are my least favourite albums.

They're great, I just like the others better.

[superpeer]

What the hell, Superpeer? You can't discuss anything controversial? We're all just supposed to agree all the time?

You weren't discussing, you were just bashing this thread, which makes it go off topic for pages without any result, which sucks. I don't like any of the Official threads either, but either take them as they are or stay out of them, trolling doesn't help.

Actually, I'm considering closing all of the official threads, they aren't natural and Ken made way too many of them and they clog up the first page. I might just get rid of them.

[Shattered_Future]

Azam Ali. As stated, the one thing hotter than her is her voice. :naughty:

In all honesty, though...she's an amazing musician.

Ah, of course. Love her CD...some killer ethnic music.

Deliverance is severely lacking on atmosphere, I think. Still a great CD though.

[beso negro]

Actually, I'm considering closing all of the official threads, they aren't natural and Ken made way too many of them and they clog up the first page. I might just get rid of them.

OMG please do that. The R&M forum looks atrocious.

It's too bad Kage's posts got deleted, he owned a couple people( including me). :lol:

[Stoo]

But deleting threads would just mean people that want to talk about Opeth will just create more?

[beso negro]

We will just have to be more creative. Alt & Indie doesn't have any official threads. That's why it's the best.

[Stoo]

If only Alt/Indie music was half as good.

[Shadows]

You weren't discussing, you were just bashing this thread, which makes it go off topic for pages without any result, which sucks. I don't like any of the Official threads either, but either take them as they are or stay out of them, trolling doesn't help.

Actually, I'm considering closing all of the official threads, they aren't natural and Ken made way too many of them and they clog up the first page. I might just get rid of them.
Wow, you really gutted this thread of some posts.

But don't you think deleting the 'official' threads is a bit pointless? What happens when they're gone? Someone will post a new thread on the band, it will generate a great many posts, and soon you basically have another 'official' thread in its place.

[Kage]

You weren't discussing, you were just bashing this thread, which makes it go off topic for pages without any result, which sucks. I don't like any of the Official threads either, but either take them as they are or stay out of them, trolling doesn't help.

You're right, sorry about that.

[Jude]

But don't you think deleting the 'official' threads is a bit pointless? What happens when they're gone? Someone will post a new thread on the band, it will generate a great many posts, and soon you basically have another 'official' thread in its place.

This. Except that it will take a while to happen...and in the meantime, there will be a whole bunch of new Opeth/Metallica/every other band threads made each day, each of which gets to a few posts or pages, until one finally gets big enough that everyone is referred to it, and then you've basically got what we have now.

Anyway, Face of Melinda is probably my favorite Opeth song...I can't see how anyone could dislike it. Sure the rhyming couplets are a little bit forced once in a while, but it's such a great song.

I can't rank the songs on Still Life very well because it's the most consistently good Opeth album. Every song is pretty much equally good.
I guess
The Moor=Face of Melinda
All other songs except Benighted
Benighted

Not to hate on Benighted, it's a nice song, and I really like it but compared to the rest of the album it doesn't excite me as much.

[Mr. Ron]

I still have to get still life....

[Shadows]

Anyway, Face of Melinda is probably my favorite Opeth song...I can't see how anyone could dislike it. Sure the rhyming couplets are a little bit forced once in a while, but it's such a great song.

I can't rank the songs on Still Life very well because it's the most consistently good Opeth album. Every song is pretty much equally good.
I guess
The Moor=Face of Melinda
All other songs except Benighted
Benighted

Not to hate on Benighted, it's a nice song, and I really like it but compared to the rest of the album it doesn't excite me as much.
I agree with that, Still Life is probably my least favorite Opeth album but I've been listening to it quite a bit the last few days. The Moor, White Cluster, and Serenity Painted Death are my favorites. I do like Face of Melinda too, so don't kill me. :p Benighted pals greatly in comparison.

[Jude]

I agree with that, Still Life is probably my least favorite Opeth album

***WTFALERT***





I honestly can't see how it could be anyone's least favorite.

Ron, get Still Life dammit. The packaging is one of the coolest of any album I've seen. At least the digipack edition I have is.

I don't think Deliverance is lacking in atmosphere....well compared to other Opeth albums for the most part, but it's still got plenty. Especially BTPISIO.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

The outro breakdown in Harlequin Forest is so awesome. I love the atmosphere created by the 'lead' part..So tense.

[Otherside]

If only Alt/Indie music was half as good.

yeah, because then you could say R&M is better right? Sorry but a&i is atleast twice as good as R&M is now :p

[TojesDolan]

I saw a regular Still Life version, which I think I will acquire.

[Stoo]

I saw a regular Still Life version, which I think I will acquire.


What different ones can you get?

I think I have the regular version.

[pate]

I have a digipak.

[Det_Nosnip]

You know the forum's hopping when the lead discussion is which copy of Still Life we have. :rolleyes:

[Neoteric]

yeah, because then you could say R&M is better right? Sorry but a&i is atleast twice as good as R&M is now :pYeah A&I is a lot better than R&M though I post in both.

Still Life is one of my favourites but I like Damnation better.

[Stoo]

yeah, because then you could say R&M is better right? Sorry but a&i is atleast twice as good as R&M is now :p

I meant Alt/Indie music... It was a joke.

[Jude]

You know the forum's hopping when the lead discussion is which copy of Still Life we have. :rolleyes:

digipack > anything else

Just because I have the digipack. I don't know what any other editions look like. But the digipack, as I said, is one of the coolest looking albums I own.

[TojesDolan]

If GR's revamped version doesn't have a digipack and extra artwork I'll be mad.

[Shattered_Future]

What the hell IS a digipack anyways? I've heard that phrase thrown around.

[pate]

I think it's just the fold out case, instead of a jewel case. But the digipak versions usually come with bonus tracks or artwork, making it more special.

[Stoo]

Yeah I thought a DigiPack had additonal things on it...

My Still Life is a fold out case one, but it's just got the 7 tracks on it...

[Det_Nosnip]

Yeah, that's what I have.

[Shadows]

What the hell IS a digipack anyways? I've heard that phrase thrown around.
It's just a generic term used to describe a re-release with re-mastered sound and usually some bonus material.

I loooooove those cardboard foldout cases. They seem so much nicer to me than the standard jewel cases. I wish all Opeth albums came in those, especially the old albums.

[Stoo]

It's just a generic term used to describe a re-release with re-mastered sound and usually some bonus material.

I loooooove those cardboard foldout cases. They seem so much nicer to me thatn the standard jewel cases. I wish all Opeth albums came in those, especially the old albums.

Same, they'd look awesome.