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Stoo
09-20-2006, 08:36 PM
Yer, so wtf's wrong with that?

A song is a song...

Knifeboy
09-20-2006, 08:43 PM
It was a joke...

i am the robots
09-20-2006, 09:20 PM
That is so metal. Is it HOT HOT HOT?

I'd assume the Scabbia half is... the Gossow half is probably like COVER FACE FACE FACE!

Darkness
09-20-2006, 09:33 PM
I'd assume the Scabbia half is... the Gossow half is probably like COVER FACE FACE FACE!
I like her face... sometimes.

sonicst0rm
09-20-2006, 09:44 PM
Well, that might be true if she wasn't UGLY UGLY UGLY and her "singing" wasn't a huge turnoff.

:p ;) :) :naughty:

truth

and that scabbia chick is hotter methinks

Shadows
09-20-2006, 10:28 PM
Well, yea, that's no contest, but I'd take Angela Gossow over quite a few girls.

/has Scabbia/Gossow calendar up on wall. :cool:
/has mine buried in a box with other depressing memory-invoking gifts :cool:

Det_Nosnip
09-20-2006, 11:14 PM
Hmmm. MAYH drum beats and Still Life drum beats seem so much... fuller.

Maybe it's the double time cymbal thingies.

For me, the biggest thing about Martin was HOW he played...it's a really hard thing to explain, but any 2 drummers can play the exact same thing and yet sound completely different.


I was thinking because they're both Swedish, but I like your logic.
Actually, Angela is German.

Also, I really don't get why people rag on her so much. She's actually one of my favorite harsh vocalists, and blows alot of male grunters out of the water.

Spoonful of Shame
09-20-2006, 11:27 PM
yeah I love her vocals. \m/

Darkness
09-21-2006, 12:02 AM
For me, the biggest thing about Martin was HOW he played...it's a really hard thing to explain, but any 2 drummers can play the exact same thing and yet sound completely different.

Actually, Angela is German.

Also, I really don't get why people rag on her so much. She's actually one of my favorite harsh vocalists, and blows alot of male grunters out of the water.
Her vocals are alright, but really she's nothing special. She is better then some guys, but... for example Mikael, removes her from any sort of water invovled in heavy metal vocals. :)

pate
09-21-2006, 12:12 AM
I don't really like her vocals, but I think she is quite good looking. Surprisingly, she looked evey better up close when I met here last summer. The only thing I don't like is her huge *** eyes.

C.O.A.
09-21-2006, 01:05 AM
sup fellow opeth fans?

i am just letting you guys know that i have damnation and still life uploaded right now [in perfect quality btw] so let me know if you want these.

i also plan on getting all of the albums up soon.

guitrguy
09-21-2006, 01:06 AM
I hate her vocals, but that just me. I've been digging Moonlapse Vertigo lately.

Det_Nosnip
09-21-2006, 02:21 AM
Her vocals are alright, but really she's nothing special. She is better then some guys, but... for example Mikael, removes her from any sort of water invovled in heavy metal vocals. :)

Yeah, but Mikael's a very different singer..err...whatever than Angela. Whereas Mikael is great at sounding evil and demonic, Angela I think is really great at just spitting out a blazing, hateful tirade. It works perfectly for melodic death metal, which seems to occupy that weird area between death growls and black screams. Only other vocalist that I've heard do that style well is Mikael Stanne.

Speaking of which....new DT album coming out soon, hopefully. Apparently, they're already playing some of the new songs live.

Aaron
09-21-2006, 02:56 AM
I own Damnation, Blackwood Park and Ghost Reveries. I can't decide which to put on they are all so good!

Stoo
09-21-2006, 07:33 AM
Blackwood Park lolol

Blackwater Park... And yes put that on.

the2stranger
09-21-2006, 07:42 AM
Wood. :lol:
Sorry I lol'd at that. :upset:

BWP is my favorite out ogf the three you named though.

TojesDolan
09-21-2006, 10:44 AM
For me, the biggest thing about Martin was HOW he played...it's a really hard thing to explain, but any 2 drummers can play the exact same thing and yet sound completely different.

Actually, Angela is German.

Also, I really don't get why people rag on her so much. She's actually one of my favorite harsh vocalists, and blows alot of male grunters out of the water.
In latter albums I think the particular beat he did was something like:

Bass-Bass-Bassbass(16th notes I think)-snare-BassBass
Crash Crash_______________________Crash1-Crash2

Or something like that. I'm not good at notating drums anyway...:upset:

Jude
09-21-2006, 12:19 PM
Blackwood Park lolol

Blackwater Park... And yes put that on.

Hey, with a Philadelphia accent, it's pronounced "Blackwooder Park" anyway!

BurningSky
09-21-2006, 01:29 PM
Hey, with a Philadelphia accent, it's pronounced "Blackwooder Park" anyway!

:chug:

Jude
09-21-2006, 01:33 PM
The Night and the Silent Wooder

VomitStainedCretin
09-21-2006, 01:52 PM
Yeah, but Mikael's a very different singer..err...whatever than Angela. Whereas Mikael is great at sounding evil and demonic, Angela I think is really great at just spitting out a blazing, hateful tirade. It works perfectly for melodic death metal, which seems to occupy that weird area between death growls and black screams. Only other vocalist that I've heard do that style well is Mikael Stanne.

Speaking of which....new DT album coming out soon, hopefully. Apparently, they're already playing some of the new songs live.

Agreed. I think she was best on Wages of Sin era stuff, as she sounds too manly on Doomsday Machine.
One of my friends has been given all 8 Opeth albums for free - I only have 3! :angry:
Fortunately, Ill probably be able to borrow them off him and give em all a listen.

jpshortstuff
09-21-2006, 02:32 PM
listened to GR for the first time in a while yesterday. Harlequin(sp?) Forest rocks pretty hard as a track i will be listening to alot more of now (did that make sense??).

i will be playing in my Music Tech class tomorrow - we have to bring in a track that is interesting musically or musicTechnically.

Shattered_Future
09-21-2006, 04:02 PM
I'd assume the Scabbia half is... the Gossow half is probably like COVER FACE FACE FACE!

Nah, not as bad sometimes. It does look like she's gonna stab you sometimes though, if you look at it right.

Darkness - it's not cold...it's HOT HOT HOT!

TojesDolan
09-21-2006, 04:08 PM
listened to GR for the first time in a while yesterday. Harlequin(sp?) Forest rocks pretty hard as a track i will be listening to alot more of now (did that make sense??).

i will be playing in my Music Tech class tomorrow - we have to bring in a track that is interesting musically or musicTechnically.
Maybe Necrophagist would me more suiting.

Or The leper affinity, for that matter.

Moses
09-21-2006, 04:09 PM
Seeing Opeth at Gigantour tonight.

jpshortstuff
09-21-2006, 04:15 PM
Maybe Necrophagist would me more suiting.

Or The leper affinity, for that matter.
yeah i considered Necrophagist but the rest of the class (+teacher) would be all "wtf is that its **** turn it off".

@moses you lucky bastard :)

ironmanx
09-21-2006, 04:27 PM
Seeing Opeth at Gigantour tonight.


Ill be at the show in the 25th in Toronto.:chug:

pate
09-21-2006, 04:32 PM
I'm going to Gigantour tomarrow.

eighty d
09-21-2006, 05:01 PM
Seeing Opeth at Gigantour tonight.

Ah, makes me wish I was home.

C.O.A.
09-21-2006, 05:45 PM
k i guess nobody wants free opeth then?

pate
09-21-2006, 06:19 PM
Most of us have those already.

Stoo
09-21-2006, 06:43 PM
k i guess nobody wants free opeth then?

Real fans by them. :)

Shattered_Future
09-21-2006, 06:53 PM
Real fans by them. :)

Of course I bought all of them.

*looks around*

9 days for me. :cool:

Stoo
09-21-2006, 07:25 PM
gtfo criminal

ironmanx
09-21-2006, 07:32 PM
I d/led them all, and then I bought each one. I got 2 copies of Damnnation, one was a gift. Gonna get the Ghost Reveries reissue as well.

Stoo
09-21-2006, 07:33 PM
I can't be arsed buying the reissue... Is the DVD all it has?

If it is I'm sure someone will post it on net.

Det_Nosnip
09-21-2006, 08:18 PM
Agreed. I think she was best on Wages of Sin era stuff, as she sounds too manly on Doomsday Machine.
Agreed. There are waaay too many vocal tracks on DM. It's cool that they can somewhat pull it off live, though (one of the guitarists does the low growls under Angela's) Some of the transitions on that record feel kinda awkward, too. I actually liked Anthems of Rebellion alot, though.

Eliminator
09-21-2006, 10:20 PM
Damnation has the best Opeth art.

Fact.

Jude
09-21-2006, 10:22 PM
I prefer Still Life myself and the Morningrise front cover is my favorite.

But that haunted house in D&D is really sweet. It's a real house in California...I found some picture someone took online that's basically the same picture as the Deliverance cover but, obviously, without the creepy figure standing by the window.

Kage
09-21-2006, 10:23 PM
I've been to that very house.

Darkness
09-21-2006, 10:24 PM
I prefer Still Life myself and the Morningrise front cover is my favorite.

But that haunted house in D&D is really sweet. It's a real house in California...I found some picture someone took online that's basically the same picture as the Deliverance cover but, obviously, without the creepy figure standing by the window.
Yeah same, Morningirse and Still Life are my favorites in that order.

And I remember those pictures... see if you can dig up that link!

Stormrider
09-21-2006, 10:30 PM
The Morningrise album cover is pretty nice. Reminds me of a BM album cover if you know what I mean...

TojesDolan
09-22-2006, 12:19 PM
I can't be arsed buying the reissue... Is the DVD all it has?

If it is I'm sure someone will post it on net.
A few covers as well.

Maybe not worth it.

Although Opeth recording is generally fun. It could've been Wilson's wit, though.

lightningmetal666
09-22-2006, 02:15 PM
Damnation has the best Opeth art.

Fact.


It's very good, but I like the cover to blackwater park the best. It looks creepy.;)

Nostalgia
09-22-2006, 03:25 PM
I'd say I like BWP's cover the best.

lightningmetal666
09-22-2006, 03:39 PM
k i guess nobody wants free opeth then?

Sure, I'll take some free Opeth.


Email is lightningmetal666@yahoo.com

I'd say I like BWP's cover the best.

The cover for Ghost Reveries is pretty cool too.

Anglachel
09-22-2006, 03:52 PM
Ill be at the show in the 25th in Toronto.:chug:
i woulda gone, but

1. This is the overpacked, "Lets all go to a show and get rained on!" Molson Ampitheatre

2. Opeth is the only band I find worth seeing there.

lightningmetal666
09-22-2006, 03:55 PM
i woulda gone, but

1. This is the overpacked, "Lets all go to a show and get rained on!" Molson Ampitheatre

2. Opeth is the only band I find worth seeing there.


Megadeth did put on an amazing show, and I found Opeth's setlist to be too short.

Deliverance live was badass though.

Moses
09-22-2006, 04:14 PM
Ah, makes me wish I was home.

Yeah, we have a decent metal crowd here. I didn't have that great of a time last night though, I came too late for Into Eternity and the Eagles Ballroom has crappy sound.

lightningmetal666
09-22-2006, 04:18 PM
Yeah, we have a decent metal crowd here. I didn't have that great of a time last night though, I came too late for Into Eternity and the Eagles Ballroom has crappy sound.

Yeah I missed Into Eternity as well. I haven't heard of them until recently.

eighty d
09-22-2006, 04:50 PM
Yeah, we have a decent metal crowd here. I didn't have that great of a time last night though, I came too late for Into Eternity and the Eagles Ballroom has crappy sound.

That's true. The Rave > Eagle's Ballroom. That's why I'm glad I saw Opeth and Dark Tranquillity on the small stage when they came in March.

lightningmetal666
09-22-2006, 05:47 PM
I never realized how beautiful the clean singing on Reverie/Harlequin Forest is.


NP: Reverie/Harlequin Forest

TojesDolan
09-22-2006, 09:50 PM
Most Harlequin Forest is clean singing, please clarify.

132WalrusesInMexico
09-22-2006, 10:36 PM
Harlequin Forest = Favorite Opeth song ever.

Anglachel
09-22-2006, 10:37 PM
Harlequin Forest is alright. Not my favourite.

Txus
09-22-2006, 10:38 PM
It's one of the few songs I listen from GR.

Spoonful of Shame
09-22-2006, 10:38 PM
Yeah it is a great song. The only song I enjoy more off of Ghost Reveries is Ghost of Perdition.

Anglachel
09-22-2006, 10:38 PM
Yeah it is a great song. The only song I enjoy more off of Ghost Reveries is Ghost of Perdition.
123

Nostalgia
09-22-2006, 11:01 PM
I actually enjoy some off of Ghost Reveries. Hours of Wealth is such a great song.

Isolation years is also great.

132WalrusesInMexico
09-22-2006, 11:05 PM
My favorite Opeth album is Ghost Reveries, but I'm kind of a n00b at Opeth. It seems like a lot of people I've talked to like that album the least.

Det_Nosnip
09-22-2006, 11:23 PM
Well, Gigantour was today. Although the Congress theater (Chicago) is really cool looking, to be honest I wasn't really impressed with the acoustics/sound. The first couple of bands sounded like noise, basically...not really the fault of the bands, although I did notice that when I could hear things clearly, they still didn't sound very good. Into Eternity were pretty good, although they don't seem to have quite found themselves yet...they were kinda missing the sort of charisma one would hope to see in a live band. Overkill were...well...pretty cheesy and kinda annoying. We get it. You're old. Congratulations! :thumb: Music wasn't bad, but singer was a douche.

Arch Enemy was probably the best set of the night, although the sound was still somewhat pooey and it was at times hard to hear Angela. Still a pretty good show, though.

Opeth was good, but subpar by Opeth standards. This was my 3rd time seeing them, and they were not at their best IMO. Mikael's growls were sounding a little thin - kinda like on that one live video someone posted recently from Rock AM. Axe is getting better, especially during the metal parts, but the softer songs are still really suffering. He absolutely butchered Windowpane, and I almost found it difficult to listen to one of my favorite Opeth songs. When Mikael said "we have some songs that are metal, and some songs that are NOT metal," I couldn't help but think to myself: "TELL THAT TO AXENROT!!" :rolleyes: It was too slow, and it felt like he was dragging it down, making the song feel depressing and just...not right.

Deliverance was pretty good, but the band kinda fell apart during the outro. You could tell that Axe was way off several times, and the lead line (Mikael, I believe) was out of synch with the rhythm section at one point as well.

Honestly, I think Opeth needs to chill the **** out for a little while and maybe record another album or something. I know that I said earlier in the thread that I'd rather they tour, but...not if it means that their performance is going to suffer for it.

Spoonful of Shame
09-22-2006, 11:28 PM
Yeah they have been touring for too long without a break. They need to hit up the studio.

Kage
09-22-2006, 11:32 PM
Well, Gigantour was today. Although the Congress theater (Chicago) is really cool looking, to be honest I wasn't really impressed with the acoustics/sound. The first couple of bands sounded like noise, basically...not really the fault of the bands, although I did notice that when I could hear things clearly, they still didn't sound very good. Into Eternity were pretty good, although they don't seem to have quite found themselves yet...they were kinda missing the sort of charisma one would hope to see in a live band. Overkill were...well...pretty cheesy and kinda annoying. We get it. You're old. Congratulations! :thumb: Music wasn't bad, but singer was a douche.

Arch Enemy was probably the best set of the night, although the sound was still somewhat pooey and it was at times hard to hear Angela. Still a pretty good show, though.

Opeth was good, but subpar by Opeth standards. This was my 3rd time seeing them, and they were not at their best IMO. Mikael's growls were sounding a little thin - kinda like on that one live video someone posted recently from Rock AM. Axe is getting better, especially during the metal parts, but the softer songs are still really suffering. He absolutely butchered Windowpane, and I almost found it difficult to listen to one of my favorite Opeth songs. When Mikael said "we have some songs that are metal, and some songs that are NOT metal," I couldn't help but think to myself: "TELL THAT TO AXENROT!!" :rolleyes: It was too slow, and it felt like he was dragging it down, making the song feel depressing and just...not right.

Deliverance was pretty good, but the band kinda fell apart during the outro. You could tell that Axe was way off several times, and the lead line (Mikael, I believe) was out of synch with the rhythm section at one point as well.

Honestly, I think Opeth needs to chill the **** out for a little while and maybe record another album or something. I know that I said earlier in the thread that I'd rather they tour, but...not if it means that their performance is going to suffer for it.
Ah, man. Makes me feel kind of bad for them. I would have been cringing.

Shattered_Future
09-22-2006, 11:52 PM
Maybe THAT'S why they played Closure earlier...it's the heaviest song off of the album. Pity they couldn't come through with Windowpane. One of the best songs Opeth has done, period.

Moses
09-23-2006, 12:13 AM
That's true. The Rave > Eagle's Ballroom. That's why I'm glad I saw Opeth and Dark Tranquillity on the small stage when they came in March.

That was indeed an amazing show. One of the best metal shows I've ever been to. Almost a religious expirience.

Though this one guy that I knew was there for Devildriver and he said Opeth sounded emo....

WTF

I was pissed that Devin Townsend didn't come.
My favorite Opeth album is Ghost Reveries, but I'm kind of a n00b at Opeth. It seems like a lot of people I've talked to like that album the least.

No, this forum just sucks...

GR is amazing. Of course, BWP Still Life and Deliverance are better as well as a few others but GR is still a great album.

Eliminator
09-23-2006, 12:14 AM
I've been thinking about how it would be covering "The Leper Affinity" for a talent show. If it turned out right it would be sweet.

Jude
09-23-2006, 12:21 AM
I've been thinking about how it would be covering "The Leper Affinity" for a talent show. If it turned out right it would be sweet.

That thing is way above standard talent show fare.

Way above standard talent show participant skill level too...good luck getting a band together for a talent show that could pull off TLA.

Eliminator
09-23-2006, 12:28 AM
I actually know a good metal drummer and guitar player from my school that could play that song.

I wasn't actually saying I was going to do it. I just think about it a lot.

TojesDolan
09-23-2006, 04:17 AM
Get a female vocalist that sings very softly...

"We entered winter once again..."

And so on and so forth and you're set.

Shattered_Future
09-23-2006, 11:02 AM
An all acoustic version of TLA?

That would actually be pretty cool, to be honest.

Eliminator
09-23-2006, 12:08 PM
An acoustic version...

WITH GROWLING.

:evil:

Sleepy
09-23-2006, 12:23 PM
An acoustic version...

WITH GROWLING.

:evil:

I like the way you think. :thumb:

TojesDolan
09-23-2006, 12:39 PM
No not acoustic.

Metal version, with clean vocals.

Eliminator
09-23-2006, 12:42 PM
TLA would suck with just clean vocals.

Shattered_Future
09-23-2006, 12:45 PM
Unless it was all acoustic...

Eliminator
09-23-2006, 12:48 PM
I think electric would be a lot cooler in a talent show situation. Especially with massive amounts of volume.

TojesDolan
09-23-2006, 01:11 PM
But clean female vocals.

Shattered_Future
09-23-2006, 02:11 PM
And miked acoustic instruments.

Eliminator
09-23-2006, 02:12 PM
Distorted acoustic!

:evil:

Shattered_Future
09-23-2006, 02:51 PM
I think my friend's band did that once. :smash:

TojesDolan
09-23-2006, 06:09 PM
I don't have the force to sing and play The Leper Affinity.

It has almost zero strumming so I'd have to sing and play lead and that's like ugh distorted chords and dissonant single note leads. :(

LifeofMusic
09-23-2006, 10:40 PM
Going to gigantour in 15 hours, Opeth in about 20. Anybody know what stuff they'll be playing?

And yes it will be awsome and my neck will hurt from headbanging for 8 hours, but its all worth it.

ironmanx
09-24-2006, 07:28 AM
Im going to the Toronto show i Take it your going to the Detoit gig. Detroit is closer to me but I live in canada.

They have played the following songs at previous Gigantours this year, not all at one show.

Deliverence
Windowpane
The Leper Affinity
Baying of the Hounds
Godheads Lament
Ghost of Perdition

Anglachel
09-24-2006, 10:31 AM
Im going to the Toronto show i Take it your going to the Detoit gig. Detroit is closer to me but I live in canada.

They have played the following songs at previous Gigantours this year, not all at one show.

Deliverence
Windowpane
The Leper Affinity
Baying of the Hounds
Godheads Lament
Ghost of Perdition
Well where do you live?

Windsor?

Dude if you closer to Detroit why not go their?
Really the Molson Ampitheatre is awful when theres a huge event going on.

repcak
09-24-2006, 10:32 AM
in what tuning are most songs of Opeth? e-standard?

Spoonful of Shame
09-24-2006, 10:48 AM
yeah, and drop d tuning. On the new album they tune to open Dm tuning DADFAD.

I am learning the Drapery Falls on guitar currently. Great song.

metalhead_matt
09-24-2006, 11:43 AM
**** i need to get my opeth tickets for their manchester gig. what songs do they usually play at gigs?

Shattered_Future
09-24-2006, 12:12 PM
Full gig? Or Gigantour?

Gigantour setlist is on the other page.

If you're going to a gig, they'll probably play Ghost Of Perdition, Baying Of The Hounds, The Grand Conjuration, Closure, Deliverance, and a few others.

Tyr
09-24-2006, 12:15 PM
But don't expect anything from Morningrise or Orchid.

metalhead_matt
09-24-2006, 12:30 PM
coz of the length of em? i want em to play to bid you farewell lol

Tyr
09-24-2006, 12:38 PM
I think that Mikael has said that he doesn't like those songs anymore.

Otherside
09-24-2006, 12:40 PM
they played under a weeping moon when I saw em earlier this year

Tyr
09-24-2006, 12:43 PM
I stand corrected.

ironmanx
09-24-2006, 04:55 PM
Well where do you live?

Windsor?

Dude if you closer to Detroit why not go their?
Really the Molson Ampitheatre is awful when theres a huge event going on.

I live in Chatham, 40 mins from Windsor. It'll be my first major concert event, so I had no idea what venue would be better prior to buying tickets.

Det_Nosnip
09-24-2006, 08:39 PM
I think that Mikael has said that he doesn't like those songs anymore.

It was more a matter of being tired of the whole twin guitar melodic death metal sound. If you sift through opeth.com, you can tell that he's definitely very proud of both records, he just didn't want to make an entire career out of that style of music.

Toaster
09-24-2006, 08:43 PM
Seeing Opeth tomorrow.

:D

Eliminator
09-24-2006, 09:16 PM
I like Opeth.

Discuss.

Thor
09-24-2006, 09:50 PM
they played under a weeping moon when I saw em earlier this year
I'd love to see them play that. The long, ambient section is soooo incredibly dark and evil!!! \m/

Shattered_Future
09-24-2006, 09:51 PM
That song was irritating as all hell. Feedback live = not good for long periods...

Although it was quite cool to see them play some old **** live.

Thor
09-24-2006, 09:53 PM
That song was irritating as all hell. Feedback live = not good for long periods...

Although it was quite cool to see them play some old **** live.
Well if they did lots of feedback then I could understand it being bad, but if they played it straight from the record I would think that it would be one of the highlights of the night.

Do they play Master's Apprentices often, or what that something that they just did for the DVD?

Shattered_Future
09-24-2006, 09:54 PM
As far as I know, they don't play it. Which is a crying shame. I'd rather have that over Deliverance...

Thor
09-24-2006, 09:59 PM
As far as I know, they don't play it. Which is a crying shame. I'd rather have that over Deliverance...
I think I'd rather have them take out The Grand Conjuration, as Deliverance and Master's Apprentices are both in my top 10 favorite Opeth songs.

I also wish they'd start using To Bid You Farewell as their encore. I would cry my eyes out if they did that. No kidding.

Toaster
09-24-2006, 10:01 PM
That song was irritating as all hell. Feedback live = not good for long periods...

Although it was quite cool to see them play some old **** live.

Man I really loved that song. I thought it was one of their best in the set. The feedback was great, there was no pain because I wear earplugs.. :p

Shattered_Future
09-24-2006, 10:01 PM
To Bid You Farewell would be awesome live.

Yknow, I actually thought TGC was one of the best songs they did live. It's a completely different experience. It's so much more freaking evil.

Txus
09-24-2006, 10:02 PM
I also wish they'd start using To Bid You Farewell as their encore. I would cry my eyes out if they did that. No kidding.
I would **** myself if that happened :p

Shadows
09-24-2006, 10:18 PM
That song was irritating as all hell. Feedback live = not good for long periods...

Although it was quite cool to see them play some old **** live.
That's too bad, I love the old stuff. It seems like it would be a much more impressive live show.

matt4
09-24-2006, 10:37 PM
I disagree 100%. They played Under the Weeping Moon the last time I saw them (New Orleans, '06). The long "feedback" section was actually about eleventy billion times cooler than the album version. The growls were so much more powerful than they are on the album, and the live tone always sounds amazing! I was totally stoked, too, as that was my favorite song off of Orchid at the time (and it was completely unexpected). I don't know what to expect this time around, but I will let you guys some time after the Atlanta gig October 5th! :thumb:

=-fukifiknow-=
09-24-2006, 10:38 PM
To Bid You Farewell live.... man... that would be utterly incredible. wow

Eliminator
09-24-2006, 10:39 PM
Feedback is pleasant, to me.

I want to see Opeth live someday.

Sleepy
09-24-2006, 10:39 PM
The Moor live...I would basically shart myself.

Daven
09-24-2006, 11:22 PM
Bleak live would be pretty awesome as well.

Toaster
09-24-2006, 11:23 PM
Yeah I hope they play Bleak. And BWP.

pate
09-25-2006, 01:27 AM
Well, Gigantour was today. Although the Congress theater (Chicago) is really cool looking, to be honest I wasn't really impressed with the acoustics/sound. The first couple of bands sounded like noise, basically...not really the fault of the bands, although I did notice that when I could hear things clearly, they still didn't sound very good. Into Eternity were pretty good, although they don't seem to have quite found themselves yet...they were kinda missing the sort of charisma one would hope to see in a live band. Overkill were...well...pretty cheesy and kinda annoying. We get it. You're old. Congratulations! :thumb: Music wasn't bad, but singer was a douche.

Arch Enemy was probably the best set of the night, although the sound was still somewhat pooey and it was at times hard to hear Angela. Still a pretty good show, though.

Opeth was good, but subpar by Opeth standards. This was my 3rd time seeing them, and they were not at their best IMO. Mikael's growls were sounding a little thin - kinda like on that one live video someone posted recently from Rock AM. Axe is getting better, especially during the metal parts, but the softer songs are still really suffering. He absolutely butchered Windowpane, and I almost found it difficult to listen to one of my favorite Opeth songs. When Mikael said "we have some songs that are metal, and some songs that are NOT metal," I couldn't help but think to myself: "TELL THAT TO AXENROT!!" :rolleyes: It was too slow, and it felt like he was dragging it down, making the song feel depressing and just...not right.

Deliverance was pretty good, but the band kinda fell apart during the outro. You could tell that Axe was way off several times, and the lead line (Mikael, I believe) was out of synch with the rhythm section at one point as well.

Honestly, I think Opeth needs to chill the **** out for a little while and maybe record another album or something. I know that I said earlier in the thread that I'd rather they tour, but...not if it means that their performance is going to suffer for it.


I was there too. Where were you?

The next night I did Sahg/1349/Celtic Frost at the Vic, which was a much better show than Gigantour.

Thor
09-25-2006, 07:55 AM
To Bid You Farewell live.... man... that would be utterly incredible. wow
Everyone knows it's true, so why doesn't the band freakin' play it already! It's easily the best song on Morningrise.

And I read that long report on the Chicago show...that's rather sad. I do agree that they need to put out a new album soon though, they've been touring practically non stop and Axenrot apparently needs to learn his parts.

*crys* I want Lopez back. :upset:

Stoo
09-25-2006, 08:02 AM
They played Bleak when I saw them in November '05...they also played Under The Weeping Moon in the same set. I don't think I had Orchid back then unfortunately.

Would they ever do TBYF live? Like... I can't imagine that they'd use clean electrics...and if they used acoustics, who would play the heavy part?

I realise that they always play songs with electrics and play the clean/"Acoustic" parts with them, but the acoustic is far more prominent on TBYF. Wouldn't sound good.

UpperDecker
09-25-2006, 09:33 AM
Does anyone else agree that the end of Harlequin Forest is a little too similar to the end of Deliverance?

Kage
09-25-2006, 09:35 AM
I don't find it to be similar in anything other than mindset, and it was pretty obviously written with that kind of rhythmic type of part in mind.

Moses
09-25-2006, 04:46 PM
And I read that long report on the Chicago show...that's rather sad. I do agree that they need to put out a new album soon though, they've been touring practically non stop and Axenrot apparently needs to learn his parts.

*crys* I want Lopez back. :upset:

He plays the parts but he's so rigid and he can't do the great snare stuff as well as Lopez.

I'm kind of skeptical about new material from Opeth. I don't want to notice the change of a drummer when I hear it.

Kage
09-25-2006, 04:48 PM
Man, if Axengay isn't as dynamic and is more rigid than Martin was, we're in trouble.

Moses
09-25-2006, 04:50 PM
Are you implying that Martin Lopez is a bad drummer?

Kage
09-25-2006, 04:52 PM
:lol: Reading back on that, I can see how you got that I was connotating that. No, no. That was terrible wording.

Let's just say, a big part of Opeth's success was the fact that Lopez was very dynamic and not rigid.

So if this new drummer is not dynamic and is rigid, we're in trouble.

Eliminator
09-25-2006, 04:54 PM
I think more metal drummers need to learn a thing or two from Lopez.

repcak
09-25-2006, 05:01 PM
Opeth are playing in december in europe again... it would be funny if they come back to vienna exactly one year after i've seen them...

Shattered_Future
09-25-2006, 05:11 PM
Axe lacks the subleties...he pounds away on his drums pretty well, but he lacks the light touch.

Kage
09-25-2006, 05:15 PM
Axe lacks the subleties...he pounds away on his drums pretty well, but he lacks the light touch.
Right.

For me, that makes a bad drummer. No matter how good his chops might be.

Shattered_Future
09-25-2006, 05:21 PM
Maybe he should just trigger the living crap out of his drums, and they could find a way to trigger them to sound like they do on Damnation. :lol:

TojesDolan
09-25-2006, 05:40 PM
Maybe he'll torture the drums in order to get a good sound.

Axe: OK Bass drum play lightly or I'll smack you bitch! :angry:
Bass drum: dum dum dum
Axe: And you! Snare!
*snare runs*

Moses
09-25-2006, 06:18 PM
Maybe he'll torture the drums in order to get a good sound.

Axe: OK Bass drum play lightly or I'll smack you bitch! :angry:
Bass drum: dum dum dum
Axe: And you! Snare!
*snare runs*

..........

(cricket)

Shattered_Future
09-25-2006, 06:34 PM
*cough*...

Gay babies.

Stoo
09-25-2006, 06:51 PM
Opeth are playing in december in europe again... it would be funny if they come back to vienna exactly one year after i've seen them...

I'm pretty sure it will be one year and one day since I've seen them, when they come in November.

Futuro
09-25-2006, 07:05 PM
Maybe he should just trigger the living crap out of his drums, and they could find a way to trigger them to sound like they do on Damnation. :lol:

The thing with damnation is the drums are SO dynamic, that even playing with samples taken directly from the track, would hurt it more than help. :lol:

Spoonful of Shame
09-25-2006, 08:05 PM
Give Axe a chance though. Remember that Lopez came from a stint in Amon Amarth where he didn't show the amazing soft playing that he displayed in Opeth. It was basically all double kick and stuff. And besides it is always harder to play someone else’s stuff, especially from the diverse background that Lopez had so Axe needs time.

As well, there is a lot of pressure on Axe to perform. Before Opeth, he had never toured much before so this is a new experience for him. In time he will get better at Lopez's drumming style as he finds his place in the band.

Axenrot has a classical background but his speciality is in extreme drumming styles. I think in time he will develop his own sound with Opeth. He certainly will not be a Lopez clone but I don't see why anyone would want him to be. Lopez was amazing and no one could replace him (except maybe Gene Hoglan), and I look forward for Axe to bring his own style to Opeth and until a new album comes out I won't be judging him.

Shattered_Future
09-25-2006, 08:26 PM
I think they should just put Gene Hoglan in, that sexy beast. :naughty:

Kage
09-25-2006, 08:41 PM
I don't really get all the hype behind Gene Hoglan.

Captain Quentin
09-25-2006, 08:43 PM
Maybe he'll torture the drums in order to get a good sound.

Axe: OK Bass drum play lightly or I'll smack you bitch! :angry:
Bass drum: dum dum dum
Axe: And you! Snare!
*snare runs*

:p :p you really need a girlfriend

Det_Nosnip
09-25-2006, 08:44 PM
I don't really get all the hype behind Gene Hoglan.

...And you've heard Symbolic/Individual Thought Patterns? :eek: Those are probably two of the best metal drumming records of all time! (the former being one of the best metal albums altogether).

I listened to Damnation last night and it made me sad. Not because the music is depressing, but because it was Lopez at his best. :(

Kage
09-25-2006, 08:46 PM
"Metal" being the operative word.

Shattered_Future
09-25-2006, 09:02 PM
Hoglan busts out some incredible patterns though, you can't deny it.

Stormrider
09-25-2006, 09:10 PM
Christy > Hoglan

:)

Moses
09-25-2006, 09:18 PM
"Metal" being the operative word.
Well, Gene Hoglan is pretty godly. It's not like he can't play jazz fusion either, I mean, you'd have to in order to pull some of his Death era drumming.

Kage
09-25-2006, 09:20 PM
Well, Gene Hoglan is pretty godly. It's not like he can't play jazz fusion either, I mean, you'd have to in order to pull some of his Death era drumming.
I haven't heard much of his stuff.

Stormrider
09-25-2006, 09:20 PM
Then again, I rather Christy on The Sound of Perseverance then Gene on Symbolic. Though both are very good.

3FingeredHoek
09-25-2006, 09:48 PM
I don't really get all the hype behind Gene Hoglan.

I agree. Don't get me wrong, he's a great drummer, but every live bootleg I've heard him play on he plays sloppily. Even when I saw SYL live, I was dissapointed. He just isn't as good as people make him out to be IMO.

Spoonful of Shame
09-25-2006, 10:47 PM
I agree. Don't get me wrong, he's a great drummer, but every live bootleg I've heard him play on he plays sloppily. Even when I saw SYL live, I was dissapointed. He just isn't as good as people make him out to be IMO.

Lies. This is not sloppy, this is godly. The atmoic clock. \m/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLV1riie3a4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tv97pLNczM

Kage
09-25-2006, 10:51 PM
I'm sorry, but I am not the least bit impressed by that.

Eliminator
09-25-2006, 10:54 PM
Okay so maybe it's just me..

But what makes Strapping Young Lad so good?

Kage
09-25-2006, 10:58 PM
The short answer is nothing.

I don't like them. I've tried to because I'm in love with Devin Townsend's solo band.

3FingeredHoek
09-25-2006, 11:06 PM
Lies. This is not sloppy, this is godly. The atmoic clock. \m/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLV1riie3a4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tv97pLNczM

It pains me to say this, because I'm such a huge SYL fan.

On In the Rainy Season, listen to the double bass fill at 1:21.

Gene messes up a number of times in the second video. Listen to the double bass run right before All Hail the New Flesh starts.

Maybe I'm being overly critical, but his sloppiness is distracting.

Shadows
09-25-2006, 11:09 PM
Has no one here heard Dark Angel's Darkness Descends?

Spoonful of Shame
09-25-2006, 11:27 PM
I'm sorry, but I am not the least bit impressed by that.

Well you are entitled to your opinion but I don't agree with that.

In regards to Opeth, they called Gene up one day before they needed him on tour. Well he said yes, took a cd and just listened a couple of songs and he filled in for them on a few tour dates because of Lopez's illness. Say what you want about him but many people within the metal community respect him for all the work he has done over the years.

Okay so maybe it's just me..

But what makes Strapping Young Lad so good?

Well that is a very personal question. What makes any band good or bad? I like Strapping because it was the first metal show I had ever seen live and they impressed me. As well, they are Canadian (3/4's actually, Gene is from Texas). I can't really give you an answer as too why I like them. I just simply enjoy listening to their music and have been impressed by all 3 times I have seen them live.

On In the Rainy Season, listen to the double bass fill at 1:21.

Gene messes up a number of times in the second video. Listen to the double bass run right before All Hail the New Flesh starts.

Maybe I'm being overly critical, but his sloppiness during live shows is distracting.

I think you are being overly critical. Like I am not a drummer but he keeps the beat good through the songs. Like it just seems to me you are trying to nit-pick each little thing. All I am saying is that I personally feel like he is a great drummer. Numerous bands have said so, including Opeth. Opeth needed someone on very short notice like I said earlier to fill in and they picked Gene because of his skill I am assuming.

I haven't even touched on his other projects, like Dark Angel, Death, Testament, his work with Devin Townsend.

Btw, way back in the day he played drums during the sound check for Slayer while they were on tour.

Gene has my respect.

Moses
09-26-2006, 12:07 AM
Gene is a great drummer but those vids sucked. Find some vids where he plays with Death.

Kage
09-26-2006, 12:12 AM
Those vidoes really did suck.

ironmanx
09-26-2006, 12:26 AM
Just got back from Gigantour in Toronto. OPETH ****IN ROCKED. They sounded amazing compared to the other bands. LoG could of sounded good but their distortion was ****ty, was cranked so high you couldn't tell note from note. LoG and Arch enemy have very good stage presence though I must say.

Mikeal was hilarious. Some quotes of his tonight.

"So we got stopped at the border at 6 this morning, they wouldn't let us through. They told us to go wait to the side cause we were so god damn good looking."

"So you guys know who we are?" Crowd screams. "Ok on the count of 3 scream our name, 1, 2, 3." Crowd screams Opeth. "Nope, sorry your all wrong, as of 3 seconds ago we changed our names to the C*nts of Sweden." lol

After they played Ghost of Perdition, their first song, the crowd was chanting Opeth, Opeth. Was so awesome, so much energy. Setlist was GoP, Leper Affinty, Windowpane (Sounded very good) and Deliverence.

Axenrot needs to not hit the snare so hard on the lighter songs, it stood out a bit to much. Other than that it was amazing. People were screaming for them to play more.

pate
09-26-2006, 12:58 AM
Opeth was pretty good at the Chicago show, although it was the worst of the three times I've seen them.

Mean Gene Hoglan talk

He is pure awesomeness.

Spoonful of Shame
09-26-2006, 02:07 AM
Gene is a great drummer but those vids sucked. Find some vids where he plays with Death.

Explain how those videos "sucked". Like if you guys don't like the SYL music that is fine. That by no means however means Gene "sucks" because he is playing a different style from Death or Dark Angel.

Kage
09-26-2006, 09:29 AM
Explain how those videos "sucked". Like if you guys don't like the SYL music that is fine. That by no means however means Gene "sucks" because he is playing a different style from Death or Dark Angel.
What was good about that video? The fact that he played the double bass and snare really fast?

TojesDolan
09-26-2006, 10:39 AM
OK **** you guys I'm not joking ever again.

:angry:

:confused:

:(

:)

Anyway, I need to watch this Axenrot fellow to know what you're talking about. :-0

Youtube links?

pate
09-26-2006, 11:09 AM
"When" with Axe on drums
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G2jlXUkJ84

*looks for more*

Under the Weeping Moon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUT3aFg5H-4

Spoonful of Shame
09-26-2006, 11:14 AM
What was good about that video? The fact that he played the double bass and snare really fast?

He is a very unique drummer and I like his style. This type of music demands fast drumming and Hoglan delivers. I think you are just trying to nit-pick or is it because you are not impressed with Strapping Young Lad's music?

Oh, btw, in the Lamentations DVD Lopez lists a few drummers who he is inspired by, and he mentions Hoglan. I am just saying many people respect him but if you don't then whatever. I am done discussing this.

"When" with Axe on drums
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G2jlXUkJ84

*looks for more*

Yeah that is the only one I have seen so far with him on drums. At one Opeth show I was at he was on drums but I honestly can't remember how well he did.

TojesDolan
09-26-2006, 11:20 AM
"When" with Axe on drums
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G2jlXUkJ84

*looks for more*

Under the Weeping Moon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUT3aFg5H-4
Yeah I gave you some happy tojes Tofu bar candies.

pate
09-26-2006, 11:23 AM
Why thank you :thumb:

Axe has been on drums all three times I've seen Opeth, and he's gotten progressively worse.

Kage
09-26-2006, 11:26 AM
He is a very unique drummer and I like his style. This type of music demands fast drumming and Hoglan delivers. I think you are just trying to nit-pick or is it because you are not impressed with Strapping Young Lad's music?
I respect him and have enjoyed/have been impressed with some of what he's done, but those videos in particular I think make a case agaisnt him rather than for him.

VomitStainedCretin
09-26-2006, 02:00 PM
:) I just got Orchid in the post :)

Only 4 more Opeth albums to get - Blackwater Park, Morningrise, Ghost Reveries & Damnation (in order of when I want to get them).

Stoo
09-26-2006, 03:01 PM
Has no one here heard Dark Angel's Darkness Descends?

I have it, why?

Edit; Okay, I'm slow. Hoglan is on drums.

I don't really get all the hype behind Gene Hoglan.

I haven't heard much of his stuff.

??

Kage
09-26-2006, 04:29 PM
Implying that I have heard some, and from that I don't get the hype.

Idiot.

3FingeredHoek
09-26-2006, 05:13 PM
I think you are being overly critical. Like I am not a drummer but he keeps the beat good through the songs. Like it just seems to me you are trying to nit-pick each little thing. All I am saying is that I personally feel like he is a great drummer. Numerous bands have said so, including Opeth. Opeth needed someone on very short notice like I said earlier to fill in and they picked Gene because of his skill I am assuming.

I haven't even touched on his other projects, like Dark Angel, Death, Testament, his work with Devin Townsend.

Btw, way back in the day he played drums during the sound check for Slayer while they were on tour.

Gene has my respect.

He IS a great drummer. No doubt about that. He just isn't as good as a lot of people make him out to be IMO.

Shattered_Future
09-26-2006, 08:14 PM
On top of it, most of the bands he's been in are the reason WHY they're so good. Without him, SYL and Dark Angel would be significantly worse. Death and Townsend, not so much, but you can't deny he brings that special flair to them.

Kage
09-26-2006, 10:44 PM
Nice try, Symbolic. My rep didn't go down at all. haha.

Det_Nosnip
09-27-2006, 02:12 AM
I'm sorry, but I am not the least bit impressed by that.

That's not Gene at his best. Check out "Symbolic" by Death. If you listen to nothing else, listen to "Crystal Mountain."

VomitStainedCretin
09-27-2006, 07:00 AM
Having listened to Orchid, Ive just found out what Opeth sound like when they can only afford 10 Krona on the production, i.e. the bonus track Into the Frost of Winter. This must be the song that convinced some idiots that Opeth were black metal :lol: (BM is good, Opeth are not BM though). Ill give it another listen. First impressions were fairly good though. Orchid as a whole (on first impression) is great but a bit samey and repetative at times (opening riff of IMSWS goes on forever).

Kage
09-27-2006, 09:59 AM
That's not Gene at his best. Check out "Symbolic" by Death. If you listen to nothing else, listen to "Crystal Mountain."
I've heard him on several occaisons that impressed me, but it was more laid back and subtle than what he did there. I'll check out those songs though.

Det_Nosnip
09-28-2006, 03:57 AM
Well, the whole point of SYL is to be blunt, loud, and obnoxious.

http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13343126#post13343126
I found some awesome Cynic videos on youtube.

Shattered_Future
09-28-2006, 03:29 PM
2 Days until Opeth. :cool:

SYL reminds me of your average teen angst band, just with Devin's unmistakeable flair and the ability to be 5 million times better than everybody else.

Stormrider
09-28-2006, 03:30 PM
I've heard him on several occaisons that impressed me, but it was more laid back and subtle than what he did there. I'll check out those songs though.

Did you check out Crystal Mountain ? :p

We'll most likely be covering that song at the school...talent show or wtvr in April. Will be awsome.

Do you like Richard Christy ? (random)

Det_Nosnip
09-28-2006, 04:02 PM
^^ Good luck finding a drummer who can play those parts. :rolleyes:


SYL reminds me of your average teen angst band, just with Devin's unmistakeable flair and the ability to be 5 million times better than everybody else.
Actually, SYL reminds me of a band making fun of your average teen angst band.

Mazeppa
09-28-2006, 04:07 PM
2 Days until Opeth. :cool:
Nice. I've booked me a ticket to see Opeth (again) too :cool:

I've kinda rediscovered them lately, great stuff.

Moses
09-28-2006, 04:11 PM
Explain how those videos "sucked". Like if you guys don't like the SYL music that is fine. That by no means however means Gene "sucks" because he is playing a different style from Death or Dark Angel.

He didn't do anything impressive in those vids. None of them showed the main reasons he's a great drummer. I didn't say Gene sucks. In fact if you payed attention, I said hes a great drummer in that post. His good stuff is with Death, not SYL.

Stormrider
09-28-2006, 04:33 PM
^^ Good luck finding a drummer who can play those parts. :rolleyes:

My brother has a friend who can play it...most likely. The guy can do the end parts of Deliverance, so yep.

Toaster
09-28-2006, 04:36 PM
Actually, SYL reminds me of a band making fun of your average teen angst band.

Haha, true enough, at least their later stuff. The early albums are definitely pure angst though.

Man, the end part in Deliverance is easy compared to pretty much any beat in Symbolic.

Eliminator
09-28-2006, 04:39 PM
Orchid is growing on me some.

Stormrider
09-28-2006, 04:42 PM
Man, the end part in Deliverance is easy compared to pretty much any beat in Symbolic.

Well, the guy plays the whole song aswell. Not just the end part.

Toaster
09-28-2006, 04:44 PM
Wow! He's got some real double bass chops then. Good luck with it.

Stormrider
09-28-2006, 04:45 PM
Yeah, we were heading for Lack of Comprehension at first, but you know :p

Heheh, yeah Crystal Mountain will be awsome if we do pull it off. :)

Toaster
09-28-2006, 04:46 PM
Are you gonna sing? :eek:

Stormrider
09-28-2006, 04:51 PM
Nah, my brother is going to do that. I'm going to play rythm, and the lil leads, lie intro one and chorus one. I think...

Yeah :)

I posted it in the Death thread, maybe we should go in there :p

Kreator2112
09-28-2006, 05:32 PM
It sucks this thread is just plainly named "Opeth."

If you guys could rename it, what would it be?



In my Time of Opeth?

In the Thread She was Typing?

Kage
09-28-2006, 05:34 PM
No.

The whole cheesey thread title fad passed a long time ago.

Stormrider
09-28-2006, 05:36 PM
Nah, Opeth is perfectly fine. I should change my Iced Earth one back to just Iced Earth.

Though R&M's Inferno is cool :cool:

pate
09-28-2006, 05:56 PM
XDD ITTSWT

Demon of the Thread
MX's Lament
Dirge for the Thread
The Thread Falls
The Thread Affinity
For Absent Threads
By The Pain I See In MX
Harlequin Thread
To Thread The Disease
The Night and the Silent Thread
Eternal Thread Torture
Under The Weeping Thread
The Thread in Triumph
Serenity Painted Thread

Whoo that was fun.

DISCLAIMER: This was not serious, I think the punny titles are dumb as well.

twilighter
09-28-2006, 05:57 PM
I'm going to be hated for this, but I just don't like Opeth. I beleive the first song I heard by them was "In Mist She Was Standing" as well.. but.. I didn't like it. Maybe I'm just listening to the wrong songs.

Kage
09-28-2006, 05:57 PM
XDD ITTSWT

Demon of the Thread
MX's Lament
Dirge for the Thread
The Thread Falls
The Thread Affinity
For Absent Threads
By The Pain I See In MX
Harlequin Thread
To Thread The Disease
The Night and the Silent Thread
Eternal Thread Torture
Under The Weeping Thread
The Thread in Triumph
Serenity Painted Thread

Whoo that was fun.

DISCLAIMER: This was not serious, I think the punny titles are dumb as well.
:lol: Not a bad list.

Anglachel
09-28-2006, 05:58 PM
I don't think theyre THAT bad....

TojesDolan
09-28-2006, 06:07 PM
Look Your Last Upon The Sun (Opeth) was alright.

Eternal Thread Torture?

wtf

Anyway... "Lead my way into the thread"

you know Master's Apprentices...

<_<
>_>
<_<

*Hides*

Jude
09-28-2006, 06:34 PM
I'm glad I thought of the title for the Porcupine Tree thread. It makes me all happy every time I click on it.

UpperDecker
09-28-2006, 06:41 PM
I'm going to be hated for this, but I just don't like Opeth. I beleive the first song I heard by them was "In Mist She Was Standing" as well.. but.. I didn't like it. Maybe I'm just listening to the wrong songs.

They are an acquired taste. I didn't like death metal at first but after a while its not all that crazy anymore and its just normal music to me. I think thats probably the case (even though there not really pure death metal). I don't think I'd enjoy a 15 minute song by any band the first time around.

TojesDolan
09-28-2006, 06:44 PM
Nah it's OK, we accept all peoples.

*refers to the quote*

*puts axe away*

Ergh, anyway maybe you began with the wrong song. Orchid is mostly approachable to those familiar with Gothenburg metal, but some albums like Damnation is good for general Rock fans, and Blackwater Park is good to begin with, period.

Shattered_Future
09-28-2006, 07:01 PM
Look Your Last Upon The Sun (Opeth) was alright.

Eternal Thread Torture?

wtf

Anyway... "Lead my way into the thread"

you know Master's Apprentices...

<_<
>_>
<_<

*Hides*

Sounds dirty. :smash:

BWP is an EXCELLENT album to start with for Opeth.

TojesDolan
09-28-2006, 07:03 PM
It has the right balance between softer and harder moments. It battles with Still Life for that place, but BWP is just more consistent in particular moments. Still Life is consistent, period.

Maybe it clicks faster with BWP than SL.

lightningmetal666
09-28-2006, 07:12 PM
I'm going to be hated for this, but I just don't like Opeth. I beleive the first song I heard by them was "In Mist She Was Standing" as well.. but.. I didn't like it. Maybe I'm just listening to the wrong songs.



Blackwater Park or Damnation would be some good Opeth albums for getting into them.

On blackwater park, check out the song The Drapery falls. It has some of the best sounding clean vocals ever. (IMO)

Nostalgia
09-28-2006, 07:13 PM
The Drapery falls. It has some of the best sounding clean vocals ever.

Yeah, those vocals are so amazing.

lightningmetal666
09-28-2006, 07:15 PM
Yeah, those vocals are so amazing.

It just seems so weird that a guy that can sing like that can do a 'bout face and give some grinding DM vocals. It can really throw a person off.:p

TojesDolan
09-28-2006, 07:28 PM
Yeah.

Dirge for November is also like mellow then rock and roll and WoAh MetAlL!L.

lightningmetal666
09-28-2006, 07:32 PM
Yeah.

Dirge for November is also like mellow then rock and roll and WoAh MetAlL!L.

I've been trying to learn BWP (song) on guitar and I have to admit, it isn't easy. The first few riffs are really fun to play though.:thumb:

Anglachel
09-28-2006, 08:03 PM
I'm glad I thought of the title for the Porcupine Tree thread. It makes me all happy every time I click on it.
I like having come up with the Moonsorrow thread title....I know I probably should of just said Moonsorrow, but that would look boring.

lightningmetal666
09-28-2006, 08:17 PM
I like having come up with the Moonsorrow thread title....I know I probably should of just said Moonsorrow, but that would look boring.

I think that threadtitle thing is just overdone. There are some really good ones, but to me, they're just too cheesy.

Nostalgia
09-28-2006, 08:35 PM
Pun titles were so '05. God, keep up, guys.

lightningmetal666
09-28-2006, 08:42 PM
Pun titles were so '05. God, keep up, guys.

Will do.:thumb:

Any clue as to what the '07 trend will be like? j/k.

Nostalgia
09-28-2006, 08:45 PM
Haha, nope, not yet.

Toaster
09-28-2006, 09:55 PM
It just seems so weird that a guy that can sing like that can do a 'bout face and give some grinding DM vocals. It can really throw a person off.:p

The weirdest is how, normally, a metal singer who growls or whatever will have a raspy singing voice. And when metal singers introduce song titles, or talk to their audience, they typically put on a "metal voice", you know, the raspy, tough-sounding voice of strongmen. But Mikael has the smoothest singing voice.. not the barest hint of raspiness in there.

Eliminator
09-28-2006, 09:58 PM
That's because he's the man.

Riziger
09-29-2006, 12:58 AM
eyyyy.....I'm thinking of picking up a Opeth album sometime soon. I've already got a lot of their tracks and IMO I think they sound better in their slower songs where Mikael actually sings.

Which album shud i get based on these? I've heard Ghost Reveries is their softest?

Kage
09-29-2006, 01:00 AM
Eh, it depends. If you still want some heavier songs that have a lot of the clean singing and soft parts, and you're willing to live with the growls, get Still Life and Blackwater Park. If you don't want any of the harsh vocals or heavy parts, Damnation is nothing but soft songs with clean singing. Ghost Reveries has a lot of singing on it too.

Det_Nosnip
09-29-2006, 03:57 AM
The weirdest is how, normally, a metal singer who growls or whatever will have a raspy singing voice. And when metal singers introduce song titles, or talk to their audience, they typically put on a "metal voice", you know, the raspy, tough-sounding voice of strongmen. But Mikael has the smoothest singing voice.. not the barest hint of raspiness in there.

Another great example of an "about face" kind of singer is Ihsahn from Emperor...that guy can belt out an operatic ballad like there's no tomorrow, and the dynamic range he was able to employ with his voice on "The Pain Is Still Mine" off of the Adversary (his solo record) is pretty stunning.

Tyr
09-29-2006, 06:14 AM
Ihsahn is great.

pate
09-29-2006, 09:34 AM
...and The Adversary is great.

VomitStainedCretin
09-29-2006, 01:08 PM
Another great example of an "about face" kind of singer is Ihsahn from Emperor...that guy can belt out an operatic ballad like there's no tomorrow, and the dynamic range he was able to employ with his voice on "The Pain Is Still Mine" off of the Adversary (his solo record) is pretty stunning.

Another song with an amazing vocal performance from Ihsahn is Elegy for Icarus off IX Equilibrium. I love how he rolls his eyes in the video for Empty. :smoke:

Det_Nosnip
09-29-2006, 02:31 PM
Hehe. :lol:

Shattered_Future
09-29-2006, 03:08 PM
Flying hospital beds ftw. :smash:

Ihsahn AND Akefeldt are 2 people of this generation of music who I could consider luminaries. Both write original, absolutely stunning music.

pate
09-29-2006, 03:26 PM
Damn right :chug:

Stormrider
09-29-2006, 03:43 PM
...and The Adversary is great.

I havn't heard his solo stuff.

But then again, I've only heard one Emperor album, which is really, really good.

pate
09-29-2006, 03:44 PM
I'd say The Adversary is on par with any Emperor album, other than Anthems, which cannot be topped.

Stormrider
09-29-2006, 03:45 PM
I have In the Nightside Eclipse. As I mentioned before, I absolutely love it.

pate
09-29-2006, 03:46 PM
Wow. You need to give Anthems a shot then. ITNE is great, but Anthems is a top 5 metal album period.

Stormrider
09-29-2006, 03:48 PM
Hmm, I'll check it out then. Is it still Black Metal ?

Nostalgia
09-29-2006, 03:50 PM
Anthems is a great album. I can barely hear the vocals though - they're so high-pitched.

Shadows
09-29-2006, 03:53 PM
Akerfeldt is definitely one of the two modern luminaries, but Vladimir Cochet makes Ihsahn look like a 12 year old trying to make metal. That man is a genious.

Crysiss
09-29-2006, 04:00 PM
I like how you sneak Akerfeldt into the Opeth thread. I come in here sometimes, but theres seldom any discussions id like to indulge in.

TojesDolan
09-29-2006, 04:07 PM
I like how you sneak Akerfeldt into the Opeth thread. I come in here sometimes, but theres seldom any discussions id like to indulge in.
Yeah I feel a bit stupid discussing Opeth in the Opeth thread now lololol.

Crysiss
09-29-2006, 04:11 PM
I do. Seriously.

lightningmetal666
09-29-2006, 04:22 PM
Yeah I feel a bit stupid discussing Opeth in the Opeth thread now lololol.

Shame on you for staying on topic.:p

Det_Nosnip
09-29-2006, 09:29 PM
Opeth are one of those bands that I feel like the more I learn about them/study, the more unique I find them to be. The "Lepar Affinity" is a wonderful example - I'm not sure I can think of anything remotely like it outside of the Opeth discography...the kinds of emotional devices the band uses, what serve as the hooks, leads, riffs...it blows my mind how someone could write like that. To make dissonance sound so beautiful...:eek:

A newbie posted a while back about how he liked Opeth's "orchestrations" or something akin to that. We kinda gave him **** for it, but if you really think about it...there is an almost dark orchestral quality to the compositions, albeit played (for the most part) on standard rock/metal instruments. I could see some of Opeth's material sounding amazing in a symphonic format.

Eliminator
09-29-2006, 09:30 PM
I find dissonance in general to be beautiful.

beso negro
09-29-2006, 09:44 PM
That segment of dissonance in "The Moor" from 7:22 to 8:28 has to be one of the most beautiful things I have ever heard.

Det_Nosnip
09-29-2006, 10:12 PM
I find dissonance in general to be beautiful.

You must love getting stuck in traffic, then! :p

Eliminator
09-29-2006, 10:17 PM
Yeah, I do.

I play dissonant stuff all the time when I'm messing around during breaks at band practice, and everyone is always like "ugh that's horrible!" and I just nod my head in disappointment.

Shadows
09-29-2006, 10:18 PM
I'm quite sure that if Jesus was alive today, Opeth would be his favorite band.

Unless you're anti-Christian. Then replace Jesus with Satan or some other figure that constitutes very good things.

You get the idea. Opeth is incredible. I'm ready for a new album. Screw Gigantour.

Thor
09-30-2006, 01:28 AM
Yeah, they aren't playing anywhere near me so I could care less about that tour.

And even though I don't like Ghost Reveries that much, I'll still get the new special edition for the documentary. I'm such a sucker for anything they put out, even if it's a rerelease of my least favorite Opeth album.

Uncle Li
09-30-2006, 04:21 AM
I bought one of their CDs and had to bring it back the next day to pawn it off cause it was boring. Thank you for ripping me of Opeth.

Captain Quentin
09-30-2006, 07:19 AM
theres really no point posting that here, is there? :mad:

Shattered_Future
09-30-2006, 10:07 AM
Yea, go eat your noodles, silly Asian man.

6 hours until Opeth. :cool:

Eliminator
09-30-2006, 11:17 AM
I bought one of their CDs and had to bring it back the next day to pawn it off cause it was boring. Thank you for ripping me of Opeth.

What album was it?

Shadows
09-30-2006, 11:26 AM
I bought one of their CDs and had to bring it back the next day to pawn it off cause it was boring. Thank you for ripping me of Opeth.
You have to have an attention span and appreciation of artistry to enjoy Opeth. It takes time to get used to them, but some people just can't handel music with real depth.

Flynn
09-30-2006, 12:09 PM
Amen.

pate
09-30-2006, 01:34 PM
Akerfeldt is definitely one of the two modern luminaries, but Vladimir Cochet makes Ihsahn look like a 12 year old trying to make metal. That man is a genious.

Vladimir is indeed awesome, but Ihsahn is superior.

@Jammie: Anthems is more symphonic, but it is quite black.

Stormrider
09-30-2006, 03:11 PM
Ah okay then. Thanks.

Britney Diva
09-30-2006, 03:48 PM
You have to have an attention span and appreciation of artistry to enjoy Opeth. It takes time to get used to them, but some people just can't handel music with real depth.
That's a bit harsh, isn't it? I know plenty of idiots who love Opeth (not the present company, obviously 9_9).

Anyway, I bought Damnation the other day because it was on sale. It's the first Opeth record I own a hard copy of, but it doesn't measure up to Blackwater Park for me.

pate
09-30-2006, 03:49 PM
Most of the idiot fans are the ones who saw TGC on mtv2 and that's the only song they've heard.

There were plenty of them at Gigantour this year:
"And then Opeth came out, and I love them, but they played one fast song, one mid-paced song, one mellow song, and another mid-paced song and called it metal but it's really not. I used to love them but now I hate them"

GAAAAAGH

Eliminator
09-30-2006, 03:51 PM
haha

i got my friends into opeth

/cool

Stormrider
09-30-2006, 03:53 PM
Most of the idiot fans are the ones who saw TGC on mtv2 and that's the only song they've heard.

There were plenty of them at Gigantour this year:
"And then Opeth came out, and I love them, but they played one fast song, one mid-paced song, one mellow song, and another mid-paced song and called it metal but it's really not. I used to love them but now I hate them"

GAAAAAGH

Ah, that's lame.

Crysiss
09-30-2006, 04:02 PM
Most of the idiot fans are the ones who saw TGC on mtv2 and that's the only song they've heard.

There were plenty of them at Gigantour this year:
"And then Opeth came out, and I love them, but they played one fast song, one mid-paced song, one mellow song, and another mid-paced song and called it metal but it's really not. I used to love them but now I hate them"

GAAAAAGH

I thought that was something you said at first...:eek: