Opeth

[Shattered_Future]

TGC is really cool. Granted, it's a bit repetitive, but then again, most of their stuff it.

[TojesDolan]

Depends on your definition of repetitive.

I don't think they are repetitive, jsut brief moments of repetition or reiteration to remind you where the song came from and where it might be going...

Except for Wreath. That song IS repetitive, but I like it for some reason.

[Eliminator]

Ghost Reveries is just boring in general.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

Ghost Reveries is just boring in general.
I love Ghost Reveries, it's the album that got me into Opeth. My favorite track is Reverie/Harlequin Forest.

[VomitStainedCretin]

Depends on your definition of repetitive.

I don't think they are repetitive, jsut brief moments of repetition or reiteration to remind you where the song came from and where it might be going...

Except for Wreath. That song IS repetitive, but I like it for some reason.

Deliverance has quite a few repetitive moments on it, e.g. ending to title track, but all the riffs they repeat are really decent, so it doesnt get boring. Wreath is such an evil sounding song -

"There is no absolution
Death is but a fairytale"

[pate]

I like GR a lot. If it were by any other band, it would be considered a masterpiece. But coming from Opeth, it seems simply mediocre.

[Eliminator]

Yeah.

Which makes it mediocore.

[Det_Nosnip]

But I adore every single part of that song like a son, so that's just me.

You mean you club it senselessly with a stick? :eek:

[Eliminator]

I think he means like fondling it while it's asleep.

[Kage]

You mean you club it senselessly with a stick? :eek:
:lol: I should wonder what kind of father-son relationship you had growing up.

[Shattered_Future]

I think he means like fondling it while it's asleep.

Or inserting objects into its nether regions?

[Verikansa]

jeeez you mine as well say assrape

[Eliminator]

Mikael Akerfeldt campaigns for man-boy love to be LEGAL.

Seriously:

We entered Winter once again
Naked, freezing from my breath
Neath the lid all limbs tucked away

[Kage]

At least he's contienceous enough to not want to break the law.

[Eliminator]

I question Akerfeldt's intentions whilst looking through Opeth's lyrics:

In the wake of this relief
Shivering, longing for more
Insanity at it's peak
Love me to my death

Lost are days of Spring
You sighed and let me in
Keep the beast inside
Shackled within in my hide
screaming out too late..

[Sleepy]

I question Akerfeldt's intentions whilst looking through Opeth's lyrics:

In the wake of this relief
Shivering, longing for more
Insanity at it's peak
Love me to my death

Lost are days of Spring
You sighed and let me in
Keep the beast inside
Shackled within in my hide
screaming out too late..

That made me lol.

The best part is, your questioning is probably well-placed. Mikael would agree, most likely.

[alytee123]

TGC is really cool. Granted, it's a bit repetitive, but then again, most of their stuff it.

Yeah fair do's I think its a good song and pretty evil sounding, just feels long to me. Doest'nt have as many dynamic changes or things ot keep me as interested as other Opeth songs.

[Thor]

I question Akerfeldt's intentions whilst looking through Opeth's lyrics:

In the wake of this relief
Shivering, longing for more
Insanity at it's peak
Love me to my death

Lost are days of Spring
You sighed and let me in
Keep the beast inside
Shackled within in my hide
screaming out too late..
I got a good laugh out of this. Too bad it's coming from the greatest song ever.

[Shattered_Future]

WHAT THE HELL IS IT?! I KNOW I've heard it more than once...

Wait, it's TLA. :cool:

[Thor]

WHAT THE HELL IS IT?! I KNOW I've heard it more than once...

Wait, it's TLA. :cool:
Yeah, I probably should shut up about that song. I talk about it way too much.

...so I listened to Orchid last night and I have a new found respect for that album. And I adore "Under the Weeping Moon" now. The long ambient interlude rules.

[Carrionshine]

TLA was probably the best performance from Opeth last night. Mike hit that "The NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!" part perfectly.

[Shred Danson]

...so I listened to Orchid last night and I have a new found respect for that album. And I adore "Under the Weeping Moon" now. The long ambient interlude rules.

You mean to tell me you never respected that album?!

:p

Orchid's a top-notch album. All the songs are beautiful.

[Det_Nosnip]

:lol: I should wonder what kind of father-son relationship you had growing up.

Mine? Completely nonexistent. Never met the guy. However, I work at an Acute Psychiatric unit for troubled adolescents and young adults, and I've heard quite alot of stories, to say the least.

[Thor]

You mean to tell me you never respected that album?!

:p

Orchid's a top-notch album. All the songs are beautiful.
Not as much as I should have. I always thought it was just a lesser version of Morningrise, but now I realize that it's a really wonderful album.

Under the Weeping Moon owns so hard right now.

[TojesDolan]

I don't know why guys, but comparing all the Opeth albums, the ones I can listen without really getting bored are Morningrise and Ghost Reveries.

TBQH.

[Mr. Ron]

I don't know why guys, but comparing all the Opeth albums, the ones I can listen without really getting bored are Morningrise and Ghost Reveries.

TBQH.
You no likey Orchid?

[Tyr]

Or Still Life? :(

[Shattered_Future]

Or Blackwater Park!?

[TojesDolan]

I enjoy them greatly but they just bore me at times. It's not that usual, though. But it happens every now and then. Particularly Blackwater Park.

Currently Deliverance could use a listen or two. Depends a lot on my mood and how much I've played them.
yeh

[Toaster]

Opeth are mediocre.

But.. But.. where's the sarcastic smiley??

:upset:

[TojesDolan]

We also accept those who dislike the band.

Otherwise we'd be a neverending evil wankfest.

<_<

>_>

[Toaster]

Yea, but I remember when that laddie was the biggest O fanboy around.. times are a-changing.. Damn folk metal. :p

:upset:

[TojesDolan]

I'd blame Agalloch actually.

And Drudkh in a lesser extent.

[Toaster]

Don't get me started on Agalloch! :angry:

So I'm seeing Opeth in a week or so. Should be good.

[Daven]

Hey!! dont mess with Drudkh :mad:

[Stormrider]

/doesn't take panda boy seriously

:p jk <3

[Luc214]

Don't get me started on Agalloch! :angry:

So I'm seeing Opeth in a week or so. Should be good.

I hate you. :angry: :upset:

[Daven]

:upset:

........


<3

@jamie

[Toaster]

I hate you. :angry: :upset:

Yes.. I can feeel your anger. It makes you stronger.

/cackles

You want this.. don't you..?

/touches lightsaber

[FlyingPaul_83]

Cannot wait until sunday :D

[Txus]

But.. But.. where's the sarcastic smiley??

:upset:
I was serious :rolleyes:

I'd blame Agalloch actually.

Don't get me started on Agalloch!

/Goes out in a killing spree :angry:

[Toaster]

I didn't think my post sounded too serious either. :confused:

Internets.. source of infinite confusion.

On second thought I was serious about Agalloch. :-/

[Txus]

Yeah, the Interweb doesn't capture emotion. Don't mess with Agalloch again though :p

On a second though, I'm ****ing unleashing the AIDS monkey's to you!

[Stormrider]

Agalloch are the poo. in a bad way.

lol, dont worry Txus, I like Agalloch.

[Daven]

Agalloch is ok...

[Txus]

I'm not responding to Agalloch haters anymore :upset:

/Feels lonely

[Shattered_Future]

Ashes Against The Grain is just...really boring. I mean, the riffs are kinda cool, but it just goes nowhere.

18 days until Opeth. :D

[Sleepy]

I'm not responding to Agalloch haters anymore :upset:

/Feels lonely

Agalloch rocks pretty ****ing hard; and no, I'm not just saying that to back Txus.

They've consistently been one of my favorite bands since I found out about them.

[Txus]

<3 you too man! haha \m/

[Stormrider]

Pale Folklore has grown a lot on me since the beginning. I'm not caling myself a huge fan from what I've heard, but everynow and then, the album is a great listen.

[Anglachel]

WTF IS WITH THE AGALLOCH HATIN YO?

I have all their albums. And EPs.

[Mr. Ron]

Ashes Against The Grain is just...really boring. I mean, the riffs are kinda cool, but it just goes nowhere.

18 days until Opeth. :D
You think AATG is boring? It's one of their most lively albums yet.

[Toaster]

You think AATG is boring? It's one of their most lively albums yet.

Heh. I agree with both of you.

[Shred Danson]

WTF IS WITH THE AGALLOCH HATIN YO?

It's the Opeth thread. It's a given. :p Though I love both bands.

[i am the robots]

Agalloch wins, seriously, be quiet nubs.

Opeth is cool too.

So is Darkthrone.

:D.

[Toaster]

Opeth wins by mercy; they shut out Agalloch, injure their star player, demoralize their fans, disrespect their field, and rub their sweaty jocks in the faces of anyone who oppose their mighty supremacy.

[Stormrider]

So is Darkthrone.

:D.

I thought you never liked Darkthrone, or am I mistaking another band here ?

[Nostalgia]

You can't really compare Opeth to Agalloch. The only true thing they have that's similiar is acoustic work. They both focus on harsher vocals, longer songs, and clean vocals. They have totally different lyrical themes, and their overall sound is totally different.

[pate]

But they are both utterly amazing, so I can compare them.

Hell, I compare Iron Maiden, Opeth, and Testament all the time.

[Det_Nosnip]

You must be bored alot.

[TojesDolan]

lolz

Anyway Agalloch reminds me of old-school Opeth.

[pate]

You must be bored alot.

This is very true.

[Nostalgia]

lolz

Anyway Agalloch reminds me of old-school Opeth.
Yeah, that actually kind of remind me of Agalloch too. Earlier stuff was pretty raw vocal-wise.

[pate]

I see some similarities, but Agalloch is way better than anything from the first two Opeth albums, and I am a total Opeth fanboy.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

I got Blackwater Park last night. It's a pretty good album although I do prefer Ghost Reveries to it. That may change though. The only reason why I like Ghost Reveries more is because there is less cookie monster vocals, and Mikael Akerfeldt's voice is one of my favorite parts about Opeth.

[Eliminator]

I got Blackwater Park last night. It's a pretty good album although I do prefer Ghost Reveries to it. That may change though. The only reason why I like Ghost Reveries more is because there is less cookie monster vocals, and Mikael Akerfeldt's voice is ony of my favorite parts about Opeth.

All the growling on Ghost Reveries is basically cookie monster growls. The growling on Blackwater Park is like a hundred times better.

Actually compared to that album, all the other non-clean vocals on their albums kind of suck besides maybe Still Life.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

Yeah, the only Opeth albums I own are Ghost Reveries, Damnation, and Blackwater Park.

[pate]

"Mikael's voice" includes said cookie moster vocals.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

I mean when he isn't growling. Sorry for not specifying.

[Mr. Ron]

lolz

Anyway Agalloch reminds me of old-school Opeth.
really? Like what aspects?

[Toaster]

All the growling on Ghost Reveries is basically cookie monster growls. The growling on Blackwater Park is like a hundred times better.

Actually compared to that album, all the other non-clean vocals on their albums kind of suck besides maybe Still Life.

I always thought he sounds more or less the same, besides on the first 2. I think on GR his growling is at its best.

The thing that's most different about BWP's vocals is that they're absolutely drenched in reverb.. making them sound more huge. I prefer a rawer growling style though, like on Deliverance.

[Eliminator]

Well then I guess I like his voice drenched in reverb.

:(

[Toaster]

Haha, I love those vocals too.. they definitely sound beastly. I just like GR vocals more. It's basically because on BWP he doesn't even sound human, it's like a huge demon growling. I like to imagine Mikael screaming his *** off.

[TojesDolan]

The growling in Deliverance is almost tired, like they were completely drained after I don't know... A wild sex action scene or something of that nature.

And I think early opeth and Agalloch are similar vocally. Agallock though, has more of an ambient-feeling going on, which is also acceptable and pretty much makes the overall music less bland, but sometimes very repetitive. But yeah vocals is the way to go.

[Thor]

Yeah, the only Opeth albums I own are Ghost Reveries, Damnation, and Blackwater Park.
Might I suggest Deliverance and Morningrise as your next purchases.

[Darkness]

Might I suggest Deliverance and Morningrise as your next purchases.
And Still Life. Refund GR to get it if needed.

[Thor]

And Still Life. Refund GR to get it if needed.
I always forget to suggest Still Life. While I like Morningrise and Deliverance more than it, most people seem to disagree with me.

But still... BWP> all

[TojesDolan]

Still Life goes soft in moments that aren't certainly needed soft... I don't know how to explain it.

They should've left Benighted and Face of Melinda (style, yeh) for the end, that way the album would never go dull. Then again, it all makes sense through those tracks, and the pace set and that stuff,so I'm hesitant and confused. :(

[Jude]

I don't know what you're talking about. To me Still Life seems to flow perfectly...almost everything about that album is perfect, apart from the production.

[TojesDolan]

It flows perfectly, but I'm not always in to mood to listen to Benighted and Face of Melinda.

[Kage]

Man...

nevermind.

[Det_Nosnip]

The growling in Deliverance is almost tired, like they were completely drained after I don't know... A wild sex action scene or something of that nature.

How about from trying to write and record two completely different albums simultaneously within a less-than-ideal studio environment?

[TojesDolan]

Man...

nevermind.
No, talk bitch :angry:

:p

How about from trying to write and record two completely different albums simultaneously within a less-than-ideal studio environment?

They do that in every album, really. The thing is they went overboard with this one and made almost double the effort on each half.

Nonetheless the bad recording thing is true, so hail the masterz.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

Might I suggest Deliverance and Morningrise as your next purchases.
Yeah thanks. I'd heard that Deliverance is really good.
And to the guy who told me to get a refund on GR, no thanks. I happen to like it a lot.

[Darkness]

Yeah thanks. I'd heard that Deliverance is really good.
And to the guy who told me to get a refund on GR, no thanks. I happen to like it a lot.
It's just Still Life is that much better. And that was only if you were low in CD money. :p

[132WalrusesInMexico]

Okay, I can deal with that. Actually, I have no money :( but I don't want to get a refund on GR. I'll just wait until payday. Should I get Deliverance or Still Life first?

[Darkness]

I'd actually say Still Life. But depends what you want. Deliverance is mostly a heavy album, with one soft song and one soft interlude type thing (like Patterns in the Ivy). Still Life has the perfect balance of acoustic passages and heavy riffing.

[Kage]

Still Life is essential, get that. Deliverance is...

[Eliminator]

Boring.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

Alrighty, Still Life is shall be. Thanks for your help.

[Darkness]

Boring.
I'm thinking more like... Heavy/brutal.

[i am the robots]

Deliverance is so far from brutal :lol:.

Blood Red Throne is brutal. Animosity is brutal. Iniquity is brutal. Opeth is not.

Opeth is like, atmospheric as all hell though, Deliverance is just heavy by Opeth's standards.

[Darkness]

Whatever...

[Kage]

Whatever...
Yeah, pretty much.

[i am the robots]

It's just retarded to call Opeth brutal.

[pate]

They can be pretty heavy, just not for very long.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

How about from trying to write and record two completely different albums simultaneously within a less-than-ideal studio environment?

Well, the wild sex scene thing sounds more fitting tbh.

[Det_Nosnip]

So THAT's why Martin left. :eek:

[Epicurus]

I sleep to Damnation alot. Very soothing.

[C.O.A.]

Lol, so do I.

My buddy said i was crazy for trying to sleep while listening to music the other day. I started to think I was the only one lol.

[TojesDolan]

I find Morningrise and Still Life more soothing for sleep. :eek:

Yeah.

[Stoo]

To Bid You Farewell is great for sleeping. More so at the beginning as it moves slowly.

[Daven]

Agreed. TBYF is very good for slpeeing, as well as Windowpane.

[pate]

Windowpane was written for sleeping. It had to have been; it is just so perfect for sleeping.

[TojesDolan]

"A fair judgement" ends in narcolepsy better.

[Thor]

Windowpane was written for sleeping. It had to have been; it is just so perfect for sleeping.
Couldn't agree more with that statement. I put that song on my "sleep" playlist on my iPod multiple times so I can enjoy it while dreaming. :)

I wish they'd quit touring already and get to making a new album.

[Spoonful of Shame]

Metalocalypse Showdown: Dethklok vs. Opeth

http://tv.ign.com/articles/731/731703p1.html

I found this interesting. haha

[pate]

Hahaha. That is so awesome.

[Det_Nosnip]

I wish they'd quit touring already and get to making a new album.

I disagree. :)

*Is seeing Opeth next week*

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Did Opeth skip the Northwest, or what? :mad:

[pate]

I disagree. :)

*Is seeing Opeth next week*

Hey, I'll be there too!

[Det_Nosnip]

****, yeah man! :chug:

[pate]

I'm doing the Chicago Gigantour on Friday, then Celtic Frost/1349/Sahg on Saturday.

Metal Weekend FTW

[Futuro]

Gigantour is gonna be a few minutes away from me. But the only band I like at gigantour is Opeth ;(

[Det_Nosnip]

Arch Enemy are pretty awesome, and Into Eternity are cool.

[Det_Nosnip]

I'm doing the Chicago Gigantour on Friday, then Celtic Frost/1349/Sahg on Saturday.

Metal Weekend FTW

Aah, yeah.....I forgot about that one. Kamelot+Epica are on the 30th. I might also see Tower of Power on the 24th. :cool:

[Shattered_Future]

Aah, yeah.....I forgot about that one. Kamelot+Epica are on the 30th. I might also see Tower of Power on the 24th. :cool:

I never fancied you a Tower Of Power fan, Ted. Suprising...:p

Opeth in 15 days. I don't think they should release a new album...KEEP ON TOURING!

[lightningmetal666]

I found a vid. on myspace of Opeth giving a guitar lesson on how to play The Drapery falls (my fav opeth song :) ).

Just type in a search under myspace videos for Opeth guitar lesson and you'll find it.

[TojesDolan]

It's also on youtube.

I find it funny when he plays the first chord of the third riff (intro to the first verse) and they ask him what chord is it, and Mike answers "I don't know, it just sounded cool".

[lightningmetal666]

It's also on youtube.

I find it funny when he plays the first chord of the third riff (intro to the first verse) and they ask him what chord is it, and Mike answers "I don't know, it just sounded cool".


Yeah, and I also thought it was cool when he said "I, er we, hate predictable ****." nice.

[ironmanx]

I love Mikeals humor.

Metallicasucksass42: How do you feel when people come upto you and tell you your music is the most perfect and beutiful thing they ever heard?
Mikael: What can I say, it's better than when they say I ****ing suck.

Evolution169: Mikeal, would you jam with me if I started a band and became famous? If so, I think I will start a band.
Mikael: Only if you're famous. I don't wanna surround myself with non-famous people you know...

[Det_Nosnip]

I never fancied you a Tower Of Power fan, Ted. Suprising...:p


Hey, man... nothing beats seeing David Garibaldi lay down some sick grooves!

[Stormrider]

You know what, I just noticed it was Det Nosnip. Always thought it was Noship.

/random

[Eliminator]

I can't sit through all of Orchid.

Meh, old Opeth.

[Shadows]

Fool. Orchid > other Opeth.

Can someone give me a suggestion for a really fun Damnation song to play on guitar? I'm in that kind of mooooooood.

[Sleepy]

Fools. Orchid > other Opeth.

Can someone give me a suggestion for a really fun Damnation song to play on guitar? I'm in that kind of mooooooood.

Death Whispered a Lullaby.

[pate]

Windowpane is fun, but the winner is Ending Credits, either the lead or the rhythm, as they both own.

[Shadows]

I figured it would come down to those two, the two I already know. :p I might as well use my time to smooth out Windowpane since I'm almost to the point where I could record it. Unfortunately I haven't played it in months.

I've also been thinking about making a backing track of just the Ending Credits rhythm and then using it to practice improvising. That would be fun.

[Mr. Ron]

I can't sit through all of Orchid.

Meh, old Opeth.

.......

[Txus]

I love playing the bassline in Windowpane, it's my favorite song off Damnation.

[Mr. Ron]

Windowpane is amazing. One of the best mellow songs ever.

[Txus]

I know. The first solo always gets me. I haven't listened to Opeth in a while though, I'm going to give Still Life or Damnation a good listen after this Orphaned Land album finishes :cool:

[Det_Nosnip]

^^ Mabool?

You know what, I just noticed it was Det Nosnip. Always thought it was Noship.

/random

Everyone makes that mistake.....I don't get it. It's just my name (Ted Pinson) backwards.

[Txus]

^^ Mabool?

Yes, sir. Great album. :)

[DaveTheAmazing]

Hey guys. I've been getting into Opeth a lot lately and I need some advise, if anyone would be kind enough to give it. I bought Morningrise and well, it completely shook my world. Possibly the best music I have listened to. I went and bought Damnation as well, and its also really cool. Ive downloaded a few songs from BWP and Deliverance, but they were a let down for me. Have Opeth released any further albums in the vein of Damnation? If not, which of their heavier albums is most like Morningrise? Thanks for any help you may give.

[Stoo]

what BWP and Deliverance did you download?

If you like Morningrise, get Orchid.

also try downloading some songs from Still Life...(The Moor, Face of Melinda, Serenity Painted Death, White Cluster.

And My Arms, You're Hearse...(April Ethereal, When, Demon Of The Fall, Epilogue, Karma)

Damnation is their only totally mellow album.

Ghost Reveries is (I think) Really good. So don't listen to these mofos.

:)

[Tyr]

Hey guys. I've been getting into Opeth a lot lately and I need some advise, if anyone would be kind enough to give it. I bought Morningrise and well, it completely shook my world. Possibly the best music I have listened to. I went and bought Damnation as well, and its also really cool. Ive downloaded a few songs from BWP and Deliverance, but they were a let down for me. Have Opeth released any further albums in the vein of Damnation? If not, which of their heavier albums is most like Morningrise? Thanks for any help you may give.
Orchid is most like Morningrise and, no, they haven't released anything else that sounds like Damnation. Most here think that Still Life and Blackwater Park are their best albums.

EDIT: Beaten

[DaveTheAmazing]

I've heard the following from BWP and Deliverance:
The Leper Affinity,
Dirge For November,
Harvest,
BWP,
A Fair Judgement,
Wreath,
Deliverance.
The main thing that put me off, especially in what I heard from BWP, is Michael's voice. It seems quite different to his voice on Morningrise.

Its a shame that Damnation is their only mellow album. I would have loved to hear more.

I'll give a few of these songs you mentioned a listen, as well as checking Orchid out. Thanks for the info

[Stoo]

Get Bleak, The Drapery Falls (BWP) and Master's Apprentice (Deliverance).

[TojesDolan]

Maybe next album will be softer. :eek:

Anyway, I also think that either Ending Credits or Windowpane own at being played, but if you have a lead guitarist, play and sing In My Time of Need. It doesn't recquire to much vocal stress, it's mellow, it's awesome,.

[Jude]

I've heard the following from BWP and Deliverance:
The Leper Affinity,
Dirge For November,
Harvest,
BWP,
A Fair Judgement,
Wreath,
Deliverance.
The main thing that put me off, especially in what I heard from BWP, is Michael's voice. It seems quite different to his voice on Morningrise.


After Morningrise he changed his vocal style to a much deeper growl than on the first two albums. Most people like the later style more, though.

Its a shame that Damnation is their only mellow album. I would have loved to hear more.
Me too....when I heard they had a soft album, I was also hoping for more of the Morningrise -style soft stuff, with the more classical feel to it, than what it turned out to be.

[TojesDolan]

I enjoy Damnation a lot because I can share it with people I know and then show them the better sidde of Opeth and they can say that it's not the same band. :cool:

[Shadows]

Man, I love Damnation beyond words. The mellow feel is just...unexplainable.

[Thor]

Man, I love Damnation beyond words. The mellow feel is just...unexplainable.
I love that album, but it's often harder for me to listen to than their other albums. I just love their heavier stuff even more.

But still, Damnation is ****ing evil.

[Toaster]

I enjoy Damnation a lot because I can share it with people I know and then show them the better sidde of Opeth and they can say that it's not the same band. :cool:

That's probably the main reason I listen to it. I don't like it, but I can show people some stuff off it and they are forced to take back the "it all sounds the same" remarks.

[Thor]

Everyone likes Damnation. Even my ex-girlfriend who listens to bands like Coheed and Cambria and Something Corporate liked it.

Which is probably why they got signed to Roadrunner. As soon as a band makes an accessible album, big labels snatch bands up.

[Eliminator]

I watched that guitar lesson thing on youtube with Akerfeldt/Lindgren/Mendez and I have to say it was pretty boring. It was cool to listen to them talk about the song and stuff, but that was about it.

Might listen to Still Life here soon.

[Thor]

Is Still Life your favorite Opeth, Eliminator?

[Eliminator]

Blackwater Park pretty much.

[Thor]

Blackwater Park pretty much.
Most excellent. Best metal album ever. :)

[TojesDolan]

Not Best Metal Album Ever, but certainly a favorite.

There's better, more consistent metal out there.

[Eliminator]

Blackwater Park was probably the album to get me into metal. I'm going to discredit Master of Puppets becuase, yeah.

[Thor]

Not Best Metal Album Ever, but certainly a favorite.

There's better, more consistent metal out there.
Most people would probably think that, but I'm so biased towards that album. I just can't help it. It was the first real metal album I had heard in ages at the time, so it's really something special for me.

[Toaster]

Everyone likes Damnation. Even my ex-girlfriend who listens to bands like Coheed and Cambria and Something Corporate liked it.

Which is probably why they got signed to Roadrunner. As soon as a band makes an accessible album, big labels snatch bands up.

It's not offensive or anything, but I think it's really bland and un-Opeth (and not just because it lacks the heaviness).

[Eliminator]

I haven't listened to it for a long time. From what I remember, I liked it, but it got sort of uninteresting after awhile.

However, listening to the songs individual is rewarding.

[Thor]

It's not offensive or anything, but I think it's really bland and un-Opeth (and not just because it lacks the heaviness).
It's a pretty experimental album, so I can see what you mean. I still like how they made an entire clean album, but I hope that they don't ever do it again. Mikael said that they probably won't though, which is good.

[Toaster]

It's an experiment for Opeth in that it has no heavy parts. Musically it's as far from experimental as Opeth have ever gone, except for maybe TGC. But they didn't make an entire album of TGC's.

[Eliminator]

Opeth need a flute player and a member that only writes lyrics to be truly progressive.

[TojesDolan]

Nah that's too 70's.


It's an experiment for Opeth in that it has no heavy parts. Musically it's as far from experimental as Opeth have ever gone, except for maybe TGC. But they didn't make an entire album of TGC's.

In Opeth terms, it is. Remember they hadn't attempted ****core yet. :)

[Toaster]

:angry:

TGC>Tojes

[TojesDolan]

:angry:

TGC>Tojes
Now that I see it, it seems like I called it shitcore or something. :lol:

No but really, what I meant was that they hadn't tried a hardcore-kinda-based song until that point, until The Grand Conjuration, because it is repetitive, mostly because it's just supposed to be hard. It's good but I don't necessarily love it.

[Eliminator]

The best thing about Ghost Reveries is definitely the addition of mellotron.

[Toaster]

Now that I see it, it seems like I called it shitcore or something. :lol:

No but really, what I meant was that they hadn't tried a hardcore-kinda-based song until that point, until The Grand Conjuration, because it is repetitive, mostly because it's just supposed to be hard. It's good but I don't necessarily love it.

Oh, haha, I thought you did say shitcore. :p I thought you might be turning black metal elitist on me or something.. in any case I really like it.

I love the Mellotron too.

[TojesDolan]

The best thing about Ghost Reveries is definitely the addition of mellotron.
Uh, it was added since Damnation. :confused:

[Eliminator]

stfu nub

[lightningmetal666]

I've been trying to write some of my own stuff lately, but everything keeps sounding like opeth. WTF?

Here's a little taste of what I've been writing:


e:---------------------------|----|--------------
b:---------------------------|----|--------------
g:----------------------4----|----|--------------
d:-.-.--.----------------x----|----|--------------
a:-0-0-0--0-1p0-2(ph)--2--3-|--6-|--------------
d:-0-0-0--0-1p0-----------3-|--6-|-6(ph)~-------------

Sounds kinda like Ghost of Perdition Huh?

The clean stuff sounds really good too, but don't have time to tab it.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

666!!

Got Deliverance today. It's pretty amazing.

[Eliminator]

I've been trying to write some of my own stuff lately, but everything keeps sounding like opeth. WTF?

Here's a little taste of what I've been writing:


e:---------------------------|----|--------------
b:---------------------------|----|--------------
g:----------------------4----|----|--------------
d:-.-.--.----------------x----|----|--------------
a:-0-0-0--0-1p0-2(ph)--2--3-|--6-|--------------
d:-0-0-0--0-1p0-----------3-|--6-|-6(ph)~-------------

Sounds kinda like Ghost of Perdition Huh?

The clean stuff sounds really good too, but don't have time to tab it.

You'd be surprised how easy it is to write Opethian riffs/progressions and whatnot.

[Thor]

666!!

Got Deliverance today. It's pretty amazing.
Make sure you check out my review on it. :thumb:

It's probably the best one I've ever done.

[Jude]

You'd be surprised how easy it is to write Opethian riffs/progressions and whatnot.

It actually is. It's just hard to make them sound really good.

[ironmanx]

Just downloaded the rock Am Ring 2006 Opeth DVD (You can find it on some torrent sites). It has TGC and Closure extended live version. Have to say the extended version of Closure is awesome.

[Thor]

Just downloaded the rock Am Ring 2006 Opeth DVD (You can find it on some torrent sites). It has TGC and Closure extended live version. Have to say the extended version of Closure is awesome.
Is the extended one on that DVD the same one as the extended version on the Lamentations DVD?

[Shattered_Future]

No, it's got pimpin keyboard solos in it. :cool:

I can't say I've seen the video, but if it's anything like they did live, Per completely owns that song.

[Thor]

No, it's got pimpin keyboard solos in it. :cool:

I can't say I've seen the video, but if it's anything like they did live, Per completely owns that song.
That's good news. Per needs all the time in the spotlight that he needs. He never gets to do enough on the albums except provide atmosphere.

[Kage]

except provide atmosphere.
No shame in that.

[Thor]

No shame in that.
Don't get me wrong, I love what he added to the band's sound in Ghost Reveries, but I just wish he'd get a little more exposure than he normally does.

I think it's funny on the Lamentations DVD when he just sort of shows up, sings some harmony vocals or plays a little keyboards, and then just walks off stage.

[Shattered_Future]

They sort of acknowledged him though...

"This is Per. He played keyboards."

[Thor]

They sort of acknowledged him though...

"This is Per. He played keyboards."
Yeah right at the very end of the show. That was before he was in the band, though.

[TojesDolan]

Well whatever people come in people come out wtf.

Anyway, he added ambience but still needs to blend in better.

[Shattered_Future]

Live he was a headbanging beast though.

[Thor]

Live he was a headbanging beast though.
Headbanging keyboard players...just doesn't look as cool as a guitarist or bassist headbanging. It just looks awkward.

[TojesDolan]

Headbanging keyboard players...just doesn't look as cool as a guitarist or bassist headbanging. It just looks awkward.
Unless you have an achordion, maybe.

[Kage]

I thought he looked like a mad wizard headbanging at the keyboard. That's cool in my book.

[Shattered_Future]

Headbanging keyboard players...just doesn't look as cool as a guitarist or bassist headbanging. It just looks awkward.

Not if you're the Indian keyboardist for Strapping Young Lad. That dude was crazy...

[i am the robots]

Underoath's keyboardist is really entertaining on stage.

[pate]

Per has mastered the art of headbanging.

Both times I saw Opeth live, Per did things to pre-GR songs that I didn't like. I remember at the Chronology show he went nuts during The Leper Affinity, and at the other show he did so on When. I don't like it.

[Insipid2000]

I think Per's cool he looks like a pretty laid back cool guy but can also be crazy on stage.

[Thor]

Underoath's keyboardist is really entertaining on stage.
Let's keep all things about Underoath out of this thread. :thumb:

[matt4]

Anyone have any word on the Atlanta show on Octoboer 5th? Opeth and Lamb of God are "co-headlining"....I was just wondering if anyone knew who was playing last. Anyone going?

[TojesDolan]

Per should be quiet in the pre-Deliverance/Damnation parts, period. Unless there's a necessity to "emulate" the multilayered songs, say Bleak, for filling out stuff sakes.

But yeah Boo Per trying to fit in. >=[

[Oriah]

Bleak is pwns

[Kage]

Per should be quiet in the pre-Deliverance/Damnation parts, period. Unless there's a necessity to "emulate" the multilayered songs, say Bleak, for filling out stuff sakes.

But yeah Boo Per trying to fit in. >=[
Per did the high ebow guitar part at the beginning of Blackwater Park, which I had mixed feelings about. It did allow for a thicker sound from the rhythm guitars.

[Jude]

I just got Morningrise in the mail...original edition without the bonus track. Sweet!

Before I even touch it I'm going to dig the hell out of the Porcupine Tree DVD which coincidentally also came today.

[TojesDolan]

Per did the high ebow guitar part at the beginning of Blackwater Park, which I had mixed feelings about. It did allow for a thicker sound from the rhythm guitars.
It'd work wonders with Wreath as well, because you could have like, dual guitar/ebow thing with synths... in the chorus thingie after the first solo... yeah.

[Det_Nosnip]

Before I even touch it I'm going to dig the hell out of the Porcupine Tree DVD which coincidentally also came today.

Oh, that's out? I should go track it down.

[ironmanx]

ROFL @ Mikeal at the beginning of this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARfsovcxmVk

[Det_Nosnip]

Hmm...so I downloaded that video that somebody was talking about of Opeth at Rock AM ring...to be perfectly honest, they definitely were not at their best there. They looked tired, or something...Mikael's voice was really weak (especially the growls, which are normally pretty consistent). Although, Per did have a pretty nice solo during the extended Closure outro. I'm thinking that maybe the problem was that they were playing during the day. :lol:

[TojesDolan]

Opeth are wild night animals.

[Spoonful of Shame]

damn right

[lightningmetal666]

You'd be surprised how easy it is to write Opethian riffs/progressions and whatnot.


Yeah, just take all that music theory that you learned, throw it out the window, then start writing. :p

I was watching the guitar lesson on how they played/wrote my fav. Opeth song The Drapery Falls and when he was asked what this chord is:

e|-0-|
b|-0-|
g|-5-|
d|-7-|
a|-6-|
e|---|


He said, " I don't know what this chord is, it just sounds cool." :lol:

[Eliminator]

And the interviewer is like "Uh... okay".

[Shadows]

I <3 Opeth. :)

[lightningmetal666]

And the interviewer is like "Uh... okay".


Judging from the way these chords sound and the way they fit together, I at first thought that Opeth were like kings of music theory. Damn, was I wrong. :p

[pate]

I <3 Mikael and Bass especially.

[lightningmetal666]

I <3 Mikael and Bass especially.

Mikael is a pretty funny guy.

I loved his comment on nature when I recently saw them at Gigantour.

Hello, friends. It's beautiful here in Southern California. All the pretty trees and scenery. But no one really gives a damn about nature anymore. Neither do we. We just want to play some tunes for you, so let's get this damn thing over with

:lol:

[Stoo]

So... I saw all 8 Opeth albums in the one shop today... "Music Zone" in Glasgow. It was such a wonderful sight to see. And they had like 4/5 copies of each one, it was ****ing awesome.

Pity I own them all.

Although I had the urge to buy them all again, purely because I could.

:smoke:

[Kage]

Yeah, just take all that music theory that you learned, throw it out the window, then start writing. :p

I was watching the guitar lesson on how they played/wrote my fav. Opeth song The Drapery Falls and when he was asked what this chord is:

e|-0-|
b|-0-|
g|-5-|
d|-7-|
a|-6-|
e|---|


He said, " I don't know what this chord is, it just sounds cool." :lol:
That's simply an Amadd9 with a D# in the bass. A great voicing though.

[Luc214]

Mikael is a pretty funny guy.

I loved his comment on nature when I recently saw them at Gigantour.

Hello, friends. It's beautiful here in Southern California. All the pretty trees and scenery. But no one really gives a damn about nature anymore. Neither do we. We just want to play some tunes for you, so let's get this damn thing over with

:lol:

I give a damn about nature.

[Eliminator]

Opeth > nature.

[Kreator2112]

I'm listening to mayh for the 75417th time now. Never gets old.

[pate]

Opeth > nature.

QFT

[Nostalgia]

Nature is pretty level with Opeth.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

That's simply an Amadd9 with a D# in the bass. A great voicing though.


That D# is really quite odd though, you must admit. I actually like it better without the bass note. Then again, Opeth are the masters of making dissonance beautiful. :p

[eighty d]

the D# sounds odd because it's the tritone. Coupled with the fact that the P5 is still in the chord it is very dissonant.

[Riziger]

hmmm, I like Opeth, I like their slower songs more where Mikael actually sings. I think the progression of their songs and stuff sounds really cool.

Theres a vid on youtube where he teaches the crowd some death growls... haha funny.

Seriously, how can anyone not like Black Rose Immortal.

[Eliminator]

Because it's 20 minutes of purely boring music.

[Stoo]

Wtf, BRI is ****ing awesome.

What's with the Opeth thread BRI hatred. Tonnes of great riffs.

[pate]

Wtf, BRI is ****ing awesome.

What's with the Opeth thread BRI hatred. Tonnes of great riffs pasted together in a totally random fashion.

Fix'd.

Mikael's growling lessons

I was at one of those shows. 'Twas a fun time.

[Kage]

That D# is really quite odd though, you must admit. I actually like it better without the bass note. Then again, Opeth are the masters of making dissonance beautiful. :p
I've never used the D# in the bass either, but I love that voicing of Amadd9, it's great. I use it all the time.

[matt4]

That's simply an Amadd9 with a D# in the bass. A great voicing though.

Yeah, that's the Jazz notation of the polychord. The notes (stacked in thirds) are B - D# - (f#) - A - C - E (with the F# omitted). That makes it a B13 in first inversion (D# in the bass); or a V13 of V. It progresses to G#m (G#-b-D#) which is a really weird chord to use(functions as a V with a major 7th in first inversion (E) - G# - B - D#) but it flows nicely into Am . G# pulls to A and D# pulls to E. V chords don't typically have major 7ths, but hey; this ain't Beethoven. :thumb:

Now that the classical rubish is outta the way....it's an Amadd9/D# :P

[Stoo]

Fix'd.

Isn't that how most songs are written?

They have riffs. They "paste" them together...

I'm sure 20 minutes of the same riff would be great.

[Shadius]

Isn't that how most songs are written?

They have riffs. They "paste" them together...

I'm sure 20 minutes of the same riff would be great.

Uh, sometimes bands don't use riffs at all. And sometimes, bands keep the riffs in key so they flow well together, or at least make the changes moving rather than jarring between keys, or to make the song feel like it's going somewhere, rather than just switching between riffs. Which is what BRI feels like, cool riffs though.

Personally I'd pick a well written song, this includes adding the vocals along with the instruments in seemlessly to produce something greater than the sum of it's parts. Preferably all the instruments doing different and interesting things, this includes the vocals.

This to me is great songwriting, especially if the song has tension, and then releases it and the song actually goes somewhere. A collection of riffs is rarely guaranteed to have this effect, and is not necesserally good songwriting, no matter how good the individual parts are.

[pate]

Isn't that how most songs are written?

They have riffs. They "paste" them together...

I'm sure 20 minutes of the same riff would be great.


Many songs, especially Opeth songs, have riffs "pasted" together in a flowing fashion, with some direction, unlike BRI.

[Mr. Ron]

Because it's 20 minutes of purely boring music.

Whaaatttttttt. I wish Opeth would make more songs like BRI!

[Jude]

I wish they would make more songs with parts as amazing and enchanting as BRI, but I much prefer the more fluid and sensible songwriting style of, say, The Moor.

[Mr. Ron]

True. I just like the whole idea of "epic Opeth" songs.

[Jude]

Most Opeth songs are epic, I find.

[Mr. Ron]

Most Opeth songs are epic, I find.

I mean like, Uber epic.:p

[TojesDolan]

Hmmm. MAYH drum beats and Still Life drum beats seem so much... fuller.

Maybe it's the double time cymbal thingies.

[Jude]

Yeah Lopez pretty much blow their old drummer out of the water.

But the main appeal of the old stuff is in the guitar and, on Morningrise, vocal melodies.

[TojesDolan]

I wonder how Axenrot will work with the rest of the band.

[Knifeboy]

That D# is really quite odd though, you must admit. I actually like it better without the bass note. Then again, Opeth are the masters of making dissonance beautiful. :p

That D# is what makes the progression for me, I can't see how you'd like it better without it

Or rather. The D# is what makes it go above being just an awesome progression to being one of the best progressions ever :p

[Kage]

Well obviously the D# is necessasary towards that particular progression. After all, without it, it's a completely different song.

[Det_Nosnip]

That's simply an Amadd9 with a D# in the bass. A great voicing though.
Does that really count as "simply" ? :D

[ironmanx]

ROFL @ Mikeal. this is from a recent tour update he made about Gigantour.

09.19.06 - MIKAEL ÅKERFELDT OF OPETH CHECKS IN FROM GIGANTOUR

"We're somewhere in the middle of the Gigantour tour and it's alright! I miss home, my daughter and wife!

We aint doing nothing this time around. Not even drinking that much.

Thanks to Chris for giving me a copy of 'Guitar Hero' for the PS2. Man, we're hooked (I suck!). Mendez is the king! We play on expert level and everyone that we show it to have been hooked! My goal is to get [MEGADETH's Dave] Mustaine on the bus and have him play 'Symphony of Destruction' [by MEGADETH], which is included.

When we go on stage for our show myself and Mendez have those ****ing coloured buttons in our heads for our OWN songs! And you can just forget about listening to music anymore. We go... 'That would be a tough passage on hard level even...'

Other than that, nothing's really happening. I've gambled a little bit and guess I'm hooked on that now.

The other bands are very nice. We hang with ARCH ENEMY the most. I've bumped into Mustaine a couple of times and he's been very nice to us! I was up on stage for his birthday in Phoenix which was kinda fun. But his birthday is on the same day as my daughter, so my mind was wondering.

I wanna go home, people, but the shows will be good, so come see us, will ya??"

[Knifeboy]

... The mental image of Mustaine playing Symphony Of Destruction on a ps2 made me laugh

[i am the robots]

That is amazing.

[Shattered_Future]

Wonder why AE and Opeth hang out so much? :smash:

10 days now. :cool:

[Darkness]

Wonder why AE and Opeth hang out so much? :smash:

10 days now. :cool:

Because Mikael thinks Angela is HOT HOT HOT! :naughty:

[Shattered_Future]

Because Mikael thinks Angela is HOT HOT HOT! :naughty:

I was thinking because they're both Swedish, but I like your logic. :naughty:

[Darkness]

I was thinking because they're both Swedish, but I like your logic. :naughty:

Good man. :thumb: :naughty:

[Kage]

Well, that might be true if she wasn't UGLY UGLY UGLY and her "singing" wasn't a huge turnoff.

:p ;) :) :naughty:

[Darkness]

Actually, I think she is pretty good looking. Not that crazy about her vocals though.

And Kage... why must you always rain on our parade. :upset:

[Kage]

Eh, I think Scabbia puts her to shame ;). Her vocals are AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL though.

[Darkness]

I'm ganna agree, Scabbia is better looking. But theres that one picture floating around the web with them both together. :naughty: x2

[Daven]

Scabbia >>> Angela

Any day.

[Shattered_Future]

Well, yea, that's no contest, but I'd take Angela Gossow over quite a few girls.

/has Scabbia/Gossow calendar up on wall. :cool:

[Darkness]

Well, yea, that's no contest, but I'd take Angela Gossow over quite a few girls.

/has Scabbia/Gossow calendar up on wall. :cool:
That is so metal. Is it HOT HOT HOT?

[Stoo]

Uh, sometimes bands don't use riffs at all. And sometimes, bands keep the riffs in key so they flow well together, or at least make the changes moving rather than jarring between keys, or to make the song feel like it's going somewhere, rather than just switching between riffs. Which is what BRI feels like, cool riffs though.

Personally I'd pick a well written song, this includes adding the vocals along with the instruments in seemlessly to produce something greater than the sum of it's parts. Preferably all the instruments doing different and interesting things, this includes the vocals.

This to me is great songwriting, especially if the song has tension, and then releases it and the song actually goes somewhere. A collection of riffs is rarely guaranteed to have this effect, and is not necesserally good songwriting, no matter how good the individual parts are.

Put it this way. If I could only listen to one Opeth song for the rest of my life, it would be Black Rose Immortal.

[Knifeboy]

Of course, because it sounds like 10 songs put together :p