Opeth

[Toaster]

I'm not sure. The only screaming during the Damnation set that I can think of is the horrid screech at the beginning of Hope Leaves, my favorite Damnation song :(

What screech? :confused: My copy doesn't have one.

[Shadows]

I'm new to Opeth, but I really enjoy what I've heard. I own Ghost Reveries and Damnation, what should be the next Opeth album I get? Personally, I'm not a big fan of the cookie monster vocals, but I can ignore it. I love Mikael Akerfeldt's singing voice.
Blackwater Park, me would say.

[3FingeredHoek]

Blackwater Park, me would say.


Yeah, definitely. That was my first Opeth album.

What screech are you guys talking about? I don't hear one.

[eighty d]

Exactly with the first word Mike sings, someone in the audience screams. Unless there's two different versions, one with that edited out, I don't know how you could miss it.

[3FingeredHoek]

Exactly with the first word Mike sings, someone in the audience screams. Unless there's two different versions, one with that edited out, I don't know how you could miss it.


Oh, I though they were talking about the studio version.

[Toaster]

Oh, I though they were talking about the studio version.

Yeah, so did I.

[Shattered_Future]

On the DVD, there's this extremely womanly sounding man screeching.

[Thor]

On the DVD, there's this extremely womanly sounding man screeching.
That's a rather hilarious moment. That DVD is as funny as it is incredible. Opeth concerts just look like FUN to be at. Sadly, I missed them the last time they played in my state. And it was on my birthday, too. :angry:

[Luc2142]

On the DVD, there's this extremely womanly sounding man screeching.

Lol.

It's on the song Weakness right?

I'll be sure to check it out on youtube when I go home.

[Thor]

Lol.

It's on the song Weakness right?

I'll be sure to check it out on youtube when I go home.
If you look some pages back I posted all of the youtube links. :thumb:

[Luc2142]

If you look some pages back I posted all of the youtube links. :thumb:

I know.

[Thor]

I know.
Ok, just trying to help you out. :thumb:

Anyone else think that To Rid the Disease is one of the weakest songs on Damnation?

[Luc2142]

^ actually it's one of my favorites.

[Thor]

^ actually it's one of my favorites.
Hmmm...maybe I'm the black sheep of the bunch this time. I just think of it as a repeat of everything the album has already offered at that point.

I also looked on their website and found that it's one of Peter's favorite Opeth songs. For shame. :upset:

[Luc2142]

Hmmm...maybe I'm the black sheep of the bunch this time. I just think of it as a repeat of everything the album has already offered at that point.

I also looked on their website and found that it's one of Peter's favorite Opeth songs. For shame. :upset:

Probably my favorite off Damnation is Death Whispered A Lullaby.

[Thor]

Probably my favorite off Damnation is Death Whispered A Lullaby.
This is really funny, because the two songs you mentioned are the ones I don't think are as good. It's not that they're bad songs, but they aren't nearly as strong as the beasts like Windowpane, In My Time of Need, and Ending Credits.

[Mr. Ron]

Any news on the new album?

[Thor]

Any news on the new album?
Nothing so far, unless I've missed some rare interview. They haven't updated their website with anything interesting in quite a while. :upset:

[Mr. Ron]

I know a lot of you love GR, but I hope their new album isn't like it.....just me though.

[Thor]

I know a lot of you love GR, but I hope their new album isn't like it.....just me though.
It's not exactly my cup of tea, either. I like how they got heavier, but I think that some of their songs just drag on for wayyyy too long.

Still, Ghost of Perdition is one of the band's strongest songs to date.

[Mr. Ron]

It's not exactly my cup of tea, either. I like how they got heavier, but I think that some of their songs just drag on for wayyyy too long.

Still, Ghost of Perdition is one of the band's strongest songs to date.
The big beef I have with it, is that it sounds "pop-ish" compared to their other stuff. But meh, all of their stuff is good.


NP: Isengard: Vinterskugge

[Thor]

The big beef I have with it, is that it sounds "pop-ish" compared to their other stuff. But meh, all of their stuff is good.


NP: Isengard: Vinterskugge
Pop-ish? Quite the contrary! I've never heard them be so heavy in my life!

[Otherside]

Yeah GR wasn't too great.

The tour for the album was though.

Under a Weeping Moon ftw

[Mr. Ron]

Pop-ish? Quite the contrary! I've never heard them be so heavy in my life!
The riffs and just the sound of the songs just remind me of more mainstream stuff, idk.

[Darkness]

I know a lot of you love GR, but I hope their new album isn't like it.....just me though.
I agree... I hope it's quite different.

DWAL is my least favorite Damnation song, and probably least favorite Opeth song.

[Toaster]

I think the reason people find it "poppish" is because they actually use a few major-key riffs in it, as opposed to the standard minor-key metal riffing. I still don't fully understand how you could not like the album though.. not that I want to start another discussion on it. :p

[Daven]

Im very happy because a friend and I nailed the first half of Bleak. :)

[Moses]

I don't have an Opeth song that I hate. I have ones that I love and ones that I love a tiny bit less.

[UpperDecker]

It just occurred to me today that the excuse that some people have saying that earlier Opeth was amateur and just parts glued together is a bunch of BS. Today I decided to give Blackwater Park a spin (its been a while). Now listen to The Drapery Falls, Blackwater Park (the song), and The Funeral Portrait and tell me that that isn't the same type of structure that earlier Opeth (Orchid/Morningrise) used. Its all the same, just better production and better everything else. I just wanted to point out that when people say that its total BS.

[Moses]

Nah, the structure is pretty much the same but it doesn't flow as well on the earlier albums. The leading is alot better on the new albums.

[Kage]

Well, there's better building and resolving of tension and things like that.

[UpperDecker]

Yea, i suppose you guys are right in a sense too.

[Thor]

Im very happy because a friend and I nailed the first half of Bleak. :)
Lucky. No one around here ever wants to play any Opeth songs with me! I'm trying to talk one of my friends into playing Master's Apprentices or The Leper Affinity with me though.

[Jude]

It just occurred to me today that the excuse that some people have saying that earlier Opeth was amateur and just parts glued together is a bunch of BS. Today I decided to give Blackwater Park a spin (its been a while). Now listen to The Drapery Falls, Blackwater Park (the song), and The Funeral Portrait and tell me that that isn't the same type of structure that earlier Opeth (Orchid/Morningrise) used. Its all the same, just better production and better everything else. I just wanted to point out that when people say that its total BS.
No.....starting at about Still Life you start to see use of verse and chorus in songs as well as repeating and varying themes throughout songs. Take The Moor, it revisits several main themes a number of times throughout. Godhead's Lament also does this, and it becomes more and more evident through many/most later Opeth songs.

[TojesDolan]

Well, there's better building and resolving of tension and things like that.
That's the main point.

[Carrionshine]

Gigantour starts today! I go on Sunday. I need to know Opeth's setlist.

[TojesDolan]

So you can scream the next song and Mike says "****ing internet"

yeah

[pate]

I love Mike's responses to the crowd.

2,100 w00t :chug:

[Tyr]

Yeah, he's a funny guy.

[Toaster]

It just occurred to me today that the excuse that some people have saying that earlier Opeth was amateur and just parts glued together is a bunch of BS. Today I decided to give Blackwater Park a spin (its been a while). Now listen to The Drapery Falls, Blackwater Park (the song), and The Funeral Portrait and tell me that that isn't the same type of structure that earlier Opeth (Orchid/Morningrise) used. Its all the same, just better production and better everything else. I just wanted to point out that when people say that its total BS.

Meh. I don't think so. I find that the first two albums are all about riffs- the riffs come one after another, relentlessly, without repetition, until the end of the song. On every album after that, Opeth start to use recurring themes and interesting song structures, rather than just a progression of riffs. They also use far less guitar harmonizing, and rely more on melodies (especially on BWP, Still Life and GR) to carry the songs. In their early days Opeth didn't really experiment with different melodies and progressions, but lately (example: The Drapery Falls) use very unconventional chord changes, key changes, etc. for effect.

Uh.. for little differences, there is more clean singing, more low-pitched growling, and in turn less screaming. The production is also less thin.. the first two albums sound very much alike in production.

So basically, I think new Opeth is much different. And much better. :)

[TojesDolan]

Nope. Listen closely to Morningrise and you'll see a lot more phrasing elements. ;)

[Toaster]

I've listened closely to all Opeth's material. That's the conclusion I've come to. What the hell does "phrasing elements" mean anyway? :P

[Luc2142]

Exactly with the first word Mike sings, someone in the audience screams. Unless there's two different versions, one with that edited out, I don't know how you could miss it.

Oh god. I just heard it and I almost cracked my ribs laughing.

[MRDuCran]

I've never really found anything by Opeth that I really liked but yesterday I was taking part in The Riff Game in the guitar forum and one of the riffs was Opeth - Master's Apprenticies, I love that riff intro/main riff.

And I never knew the vocalists voice was so damn growly, I knew he went deep at times but I didn't know he went all out death metal.

[Shadows]

Opeth is amazing. In every way. anyone who says different is a fool. I suggest you get Blackwater Park ASAP.

[Daven]

Lucky. No one around here ever wants to play any Opeth songs with me! I'm trying to talk one of my friends into playing Master's Apprentices or The Leper Affinity with me though.

My friend wasnt into Opeth, but after heargin M's vocals he loved them.

[MRDuCran]

Opeth is amazing. In every way. anyone who says different is a fool. I suggest you get Blackwater Park ASAP.

I have Damnation and My Arms, Your Hearse already from the Daily Upload, but if you're recommending that, I'll get it.

[Luc2142]

Opeth is amazing. In every way. anyone who says different is a fool. I suggest you get Blackwater Park ASAP.

I reccomend Still Life over BWP.

[TojesDolan]

I reccomend Ghost Reveries for diversity.

<_<

[Luc2142]

Ghost Reveries is great too.

[Otherside]

My first was Morningrise and possibly still my favorite.

Though I somewhat hate Opeth for never playing it live >:|

[Amphetamine]

My God, Dirge of November is so awesome.

[magicbus]

How is Damnation? I heard from a particularily picky friend that it's not as good, but he's pretty serious about the music he listens to.

I really like Orchid, BWP, Still Life is cool, I haven't listened to much of Morningrise, but I love "To Bid You Farewell". Do you guys think I'd like Damnation? I also wondering cause I heard they play it on Lamentations.

[Kage]

Damnation is clean/acoustic. Dark and quite beautiful. I love it. If your liking of Opeth isn't dependent upon high-octane heavy sections, then you'll undoubtedly like it.

[i am the robots]

How is Damnation? I heard from a particularily picky friend that it's not as good, but he's pretty serious about the music he listens to.

It's really a beautiful album.

[Crysiss]

I have Damnation and My Arms, Your Hearse already from the Daily Upload, but if you're recommending that, I'll get it.

The title track is amazing:)

[Pickles]

Quick question guys. What are some essential Opeth CDs to get? I'm pretty sure I have Black Water Park but I've never listened to it for some odd reason.

[Otherside]

Listen to it then, it's one of the best to start on.

[Shattered_Future]

Yea, BWP is your best bet if you're just getting into Opeth.

[Pickles]

Alright, thanks guys :thumb:

[Kage]

Is that Devin Townsend in your avatar?

[Darkness]

If you're talking to Pickles, then no. That's the drummer from Dethklok.

[Kage]

His hair looks a lot like how Devin Townsend wears it these days.

Never seen Dethklok, don't particularly want to.

[Pickles]

It's Pickles the Drummer from the show Metalocalypse, the band Dethklok. His character's look is based on Devin though.

[3FingeredHoek]

My God, Dirge of November is so awesome.


No kidding. It's one of Opeth's most underrated songs IMO.

[magicbus]

I've got no problem with clean/acoustic, I like everything about Opeth.

So I'll probably check out Damnation then.

[Sleepy]

I've got no problem with clean/acoustic, I like everything about Opeth.

So I'll probably check out Damnation then.

Damnation is secks for teh ears.

[Det_Nosnip]

Much preferable to secks in teh ears, if you ask me.

[Insipid2000]

DAMNATION! - rules.

[pate]

Indeed it is. It was my favorite Opeth album for awhile, but now it's right in the middle.

[BurningSky]

Damnation might be Opeth's most mature album to date. The melodies are extremely melancholy, the song structures are their best yet, the bass and drums mesh perfectly, and the production is solid...

[TojesDolan]

The lyrics are lightly cheesy.

Which Mike didn't want them to be, anyway. But they are lighlty cheesy here or there.

Nonetheless good lyrics.

[Kage]

That's bound to happen from time to time.

[Kronos]

Damnation cheesy lyrics? Where? Examples please!


/ goes to find bundles of twigs and petrol to burn the heretic...

[TojesDolan]

Summer is miles and miles away
And no one would ask me to stay

Taken from "In my time of need".


In the corner beside my window
There hangs a lonely photograph
There is no reason
I'd never notice
A memory that could hold me back

There is a wound that's always bleeding
There is a road I'm always walking
And I know you'll never return to this place

That's borderline cheesy, taken from "Hope leaves".

Stain me, save me
Take me to my home
Hold me, show me
Take me to my home

"Weakness".

As beautiful as they are they are CHEESY LYRICS, LYRICS that you can find in most pop albums, but written better. It was hard to pick moments that I find cheesy. They are good lyrics, I adore them. BUT THEY ARE CHEESY.

[Kronos]

Fair enough. It took you to remind me....

Anyway, I wish I could write lyrics like Mikael - and he's not even a native english speaker.

Shows us all up

[jpshortstuff]

^^ i know exactly what you mean with the pop album thingy. i rarely listen to lyrics intently enough to notice/care, but when there is a passage on Damnation or other songs that i do listen i notice this.

but who cares?

[Luc2142]

Summer is miles and miles away
And no one would ask me to stay

Taken from "In my time of need".


In the corner beside my window
There hangs a lonely photograph
There is no reason
I'd never notice
A memory that could hold me back

There is a wound that's always bleeding
There is a road I'm always walking
And I know you'll never return to this place

That's borderline cheesy, taken from "Hope leaves".

Stain me, save me
Take me to my home
Hold me, show me
Take me to my home

"Weakness".

As beautiful as they are they are CHEESY LYRICS, LYRICS that you can find in most pop albums, but written better. It was hard to pick moments that I find cheesy. They are good lyrics, I adore them. BUT THEY ARE CHEESY.

How are they cheesy?

[pate]

They're sort of trite-ish.

[TojesDolan]

How are they cheesy?
They are common-place-love-lyrics.

They are not bad at all. I mean, you can relate to those and they are some of my favorite choruses that Mike has ever come up with, but they are nonetheless common-place.

: |

[Det_Nosnip]

I've found Opeth's lyrics to more likely be nonsensical than cheesy.

[Shattered_Future]

I like Mike's lyrics. And this is coming from somebody who thinks lyrics mean just a little more than how the band dresses.

[Toaster]

I've found Opeth's lyrics to more likely be nonsensical than cheesy.

Same. I mean, they're great and all, and flow with the music very well most of the time, but sometimes you can tell Mike just strings some cool-sounding phrases together. Many more of his lyrics are very meaningful though.

[lightningmetal666]

Finally I've managed to listen to Blackwater park just to see what the hype was all about and DAAAAMMMMMN!!!!

This has to be one of the best Cd's i've ever listened to. Stand out tracks for me are the title track and the drapery falls.

Plus, I'm going to go see them live on Sunday. I cannot wait.

[i am the robots]

I've found Opeth's lyrics to more likely be nonsensical than cheesy.

Alright then...

wtf?

[Sleepy]

Finally I've managed to listen to Blackwater park just to see what the hype was all about and DAAAAMMMMMN!!!!

This has to be one of the best Cd's i've ever listened to. Stand out tracks for me are the title track and the drapery falls.

Plus, I'm going to go see them live on Sunday. I cannot wait.

They're a fun show. You'll probably have a blast.

[Darkness]

They sure are. I would know since I've seen em twice. :cool:

[pate]

Same. In two weeks it'll be three.

[VomitStainedCretin]

Seeing them in November - should be a Dirge (bad pun, sorry). What do you guys think of the support act Paradise Lost, I havent listened to them so Id be interested in your opinion.

[Kronos]

Seeing them in November - should be a Dirge (bad pun, sorry). What do you guys think of the support act Paradise Lost, I havent listened to them so Id be interested in your opinion.

Paradise Lost own.

They've been around since 1988 and basically invented doom/goth metal.

I love them. Saw them last year support Nightwish at The Apollo and I'm really glad they'll be supporting Opeth at The Roundhouse (I'm going too)

Nick Holmes and Mikael get on like a house on fire - Mike thinks Nick's the funniest man alive and they've supported Opeth before.
If you post your email I'll send you a couple of their tracks as a sampler if you want.
I = huge PL fanboy. :)

[pate]

Opeth's Gigantour setlist, as confirmed by Dave Mustaine:

Ghost of Perdition
Godhead's Lament
Windowpane
Deliverance
Leper Affinity


Oh hell yes :) :)

[suspect]

Wow, the interlude in the middle of Harlequin Forest is sex for the ears. I've just started listening to Ghost Reveries again, for the first time since it was released. Its a great album, that although it doesn't measure up to Opeth's best ones, is good in is own right.

[Stoo]

Opeth's Gigantour setlist, as confirmed by Dave Mustaine:

Ghost of Perdition
Godhead's Lament
Windowpane
Deliverance
Leper Affinity


Oh hell yes :) :)
No real suprises there. Cept maybe Godhead's Lament.

[Jude]

Godhead's Lament is a pretty sweet surprise. I'd love to see that live.

[JamJar]

That is a pretty godly setlist as far as I'm concerned. I'd kill to see Opeth live, but I can't afford to see them in November.

[Kage]

I'd really like to see Ghost of Perdition.

[TojesDolan]

Considering it's a festival, it's an awesome setlist.

[Pinhead13]

I got my tickets an hour ago. Floor tickets!!! $60.00 is kinda expensive.

[VomitStainedCretin]

Paradise Lost own.

They've been around since 1988 and basically invented doom/goth metal.

I love them. Saw them last year support Nightwish at The Apollo and I'm really glad they'll be supporting Opeth at The Roundhouse (I'm going too)

Nick Holmes and Mikael get on like a house on fire - Mike thinks Nick's the funniest man alive and they've supported Opeth before.
If you post your email I'll send you a couple of their tracks as a sampler if you want.
I = huge PL fanboy. :)

Thanx for offering, but Ill just DL the tracks. Could you give me song recommendations? Are PL more My Dying Bride or Candlemass style Doom?

[VomitStainedCretin]

OK, Ive just beeen on PL's Myspace and had a listen. I wasnt too keen on what I heard, but from what I read on the site Im assuming these were songs from their recent albums and not their older stuff, which it says was more metal than their new material.

[Kronos]

Yeah the early stuff is vastly superior - they went a bit soft from 97-02 and the last album was ok, but still watered down a bit.

My fave tracks (in no particular order)
Pity The Sadness
Remembrance
Hallowed Land
As I Die
Widow
Shadowkings
Once Solemn
Embers Fire
Seriously, if you'd like a couple of them I'll send them to you - it'll only take a few mins.

[Shattered_Future]

Opeth's Gigantour setlist, as confirmed by Dave Mustaine:

Ghost of Perdition
Godhead's Lament
Windowpane
Deliverance
Leper Affinity


Oh hell yes :) :)

No.
Freaking.
WAY.

/CAN'T WAIT FOR SEPTEMBER 30TH ANY LONGER! :mad:

[Carrionshine]

Sunday for me!!!!

[Det_Nosnip]

Alright then...

wtf?

That's exactly the reaction I have to alot of Opeth's lyrics. :lol: Don't get me wrong, alot are also great, but at times there's definitely a "wtf" value.

Opeth's Gigantour setlist, as confirmed by Dave Mustaine:

Ghost of Perdition
Godhead's Lament
Windowpane
Deliverance
Leper Affinity


Oh hell yes
Wow. That's awesome! Can't wait until the 22nd for me.

[Shattered_Future]

Man, favorite songs from Damnation and Still Life, and the other 3 rank in my top Opeth songs as well.

[3FingeredHoek]

The setlist owns! Unfortunately, Gigantour is coming nowhere near me this year. :(

[Insipid2000]

****ing awesome Setlist! Ghost of Pertition is the perfect song.

[Insipid2000]

Man just listened Still Life for the first time in awhile and its one hell of an album damn!

[Flynn]

Godhead's Lament is a pretty sweet surprise. I'd love to see that live.



Me too :thumb:

[TojesDolan]

There's a video in youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvISRsalkWI

It souds heavily off.

:(

[3FingeredHoek]

There's a video in youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvISRsalkWI

It souds heavily off.

:(

Wtf? I can only hear one bass drum.

[Det_Nosnip]

It sounds like one of Martin's triggers was misfiring.

[pate]

My fantasy for Gigantour was Opeth playing GL, and now it will come true!!

[Det_Nosnip]

I've been itching to hear GOP live, personally.

[pate]

I've seen it once, Baying of the Hounds and TGC twice.

Live, I would rank them like this:
1. TGC
2. BotH
3. GoP

[Epicurus]

Yeah TGC went off when I saw them.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Man,for a festival,that setlist ****ing owns.

[Captain Quentin]

Gigantour is coming to the land of oz, but instead of opeth we get ****ing soulfly!!!!! :angry: :angry: :upset:

[Kronos]

Gigantour is coming to the land of oz, but instead of opeth we get ****ing soulfly!!!!! :angry: :angry: :upset:



UNLUCKY!!



:p

[Daven]

Gigantour is coming to the land of oz, but instead of opeth we get ****ing soulfly!!!!! :angry: :angry: :upset:

That sucks man.

[Captain Quentin]

That sucks man.
:upset:

[Daven]

At least you're seeing some other good bands.

[Shattered_Future]

I'm sorry to hear that. I don't think Soulfly is as bad as people make them out to be, personally, but Opeth > Soulfly by miles.

TGC is unbelievable live. There's something about it that just works in a live atmosphere.

[Kronos]

I'm getting all excited about Nov 9th. Absolutely no Soulfly at all.

Just Opeth, and Paradise Lost.

/smug mode

[Kage]

TGC is unbelievable live. There's something about it that just works in a live atmosphere.
I have to confess that when I saw them and that song came on, I went crazy in the mosh pit. It really worked for that.

The rest of the set, I watched and listened intently, though.

[Thor]

TGC is unbelievable live. There's something about it that just works in a live atmosphere.
I could imagine it being alot better in concert just because it's so darn heavy. On CD the riffs just don't give off enough power as they would in concert.

[Shattered_Future]

I could imagine it being alot better in concert just because it's so darn heavy. On CD the riffs just don't give off enough power as they would in concert.

It was more the vocals than anything that made it unbelievable.

Normally, you got the chorus riff with "THE EYES! OF THE DEVIL!" where Mike adds the pause in between the lines. Live, he just HELD "eyes" out over the passage up until the next line. It was flat out BR00TAL (for lack of better term).

[Statutory Ape]

The only Opeth album I have is Blackwater Park, and it's quite good, I don't really find myself listening to it often, but every now and again a song pops up on my iTunes and i'll pay attention. I love his clean vocals, but his growl is kind of comical.

[Kage]

I know a lot of people that find the growling comical, and I can definately see it that way.

[Stoo]

comical?

[Kage]

Think about it: Here's this guy just belting out a ridiculously low growl trying to sound sinister or whatever. I don't find it funny, but I can see how people would. It might just be hard to take seriously because it could border on gimmicky.

[Stoo]

Why Opeth though? loads of bands growl buh. I see other bands growling/screaming as comical because they suck hard compared to Mike...

[Kage]

Well, growling in general can be hard to take seriously for someone for whom it doesn't click.

[Statutory Ape]

Well basically this is an Opeth thread, so when I find a Black Dahlia Murder thread or such i'll be sure to make fun of their growl.

I find it comical becuase he sounds like the cookie monster, I don't hate it, it's quite enjoyable, just kinda smirk worthy.

[Thor]

The only Opeth album I have is Blackwater Park, and it's quite good, I don't really find myself listening to it often, but every now and again a song pops up on my iTunes and i'll pay attention. I love his clean vocals, but his growl is kind of comical.
Mikael's growls straight up own, stop with your blaspheming.

[Statutory Ape]

Okay crazy lady

[Thor]

Okay crazy lady
That's the spirit. Most people in here are Opeth fanboys (including myself) so whenever anyone says something negative about their stuff I naturally freak out.

[Statutory Ape]

I wasn't trying to be negative...I said it in a light spirited way. I really like Opeth, just the growl is always good fr a laugh.

[Avalanche.]

What's that in your avatar? (Sorry for spam)

[i am the robots]

Divine my boy.

And I shook Trevor Strnad's hand last night.

Be jealous.

@Statutory Ape

[Shattered_Future]

What makes Blackwater Park so freaking good? The first 4 tracks are genius...especially when you're eating.

[Daven]

The best track, IMO, off BWP is Bleak.

[Det_Nosnip]

You would not be alone in that opinion.

[Stoo]

no you would not

[TojesDolan]

The leper affinity is very consistent.

[Daven]

TLA is very good as well.

[Shattered_Future]

I think Bleak edges it out a bit more.

[Stoo]

I desperately want to see Blackwater Park live. Fantastic song.

Brutal...

Beautiful...

Blackwater Park... :cool:

[Shattered_Future]

I desperately want to see Blackwater Park live. Fantastic song.

Brutal...

Beautiful...

Blackwater Park... :cool:

While we're on B words...

Boring...

[Daven]

You dont like BWP, SF?

[Shattered_Future]

Not the first 5 minutes, no...

[Stoo]

you suck

get out!

[Daven]

The beginning is my favorite part of the song. What i dont like about it, is the acoustic riff that gets repeated like 1000 times.

[Shattered_Future]

The beginning is my favorite part of the song. What i dont like about it, is the acoustic riff that gets repeated like 1000 times.

Exactly. The beginning riff is passable, but it just spirals down. I skip right to the part with the layered vocals, which is my favorite part of the whole freaking album.

[Mr. Ron]

Opeth are ok I guess.

[i am the robots]

:lol: that was the most amazing post ever.

[Kage]

Exactly. The beginning riff is passable, but it just spirals down. I skip right to the part with the layered vocals, which is my favorite part of the whole freaking album.
You fast-forward through a song to get to a certain part? Talk about killing it. Yow.

[Shattered_Future]

I can't help it if I love parts of a song, but hate others. I don't want to sit through 3 minutes of a crappy acoustic riff.

[Kage]

I assume you're talking about the huge breakout after the acoustic section. While that part is amazing, it's made all the better by the long build up to it. It makes the release just that much more exciting and satisfying. But I adore every single part of that song like a son, so that's just me.

[Jude]

The beginning of BWP is awesome. The riffs are just sick and amazing. Then the acoustic section drags on soooooooooo damn long...and IMO the section after it isn't too amazing.

Fortunately it ends with one of the most awe-inspiring 5 minutes of music ever.

[Daven]

^^Âgreed.

[ironmanx]

THE SUUN SETS FOREVERRRRR OVER BLACKWATER PAAAAARRRKK!!!

that gives me chills every damn time. My neck just goes numb. Such an emotional and powerful moment.

[TojesDolan]

If the acoustic riff was repeated only say, one time and they didn't go to coda, the song would keep the edge.

[Thor]

THE SUUN SETS FOREVERRRRR OVER BLACKWATER PAAAAARRRKK!!!

that gives me chills every damn time. My neck just goes numb. Such an emotional and powerful moment.
One of the best closers to any Opeth album. To Bid You Farewell is the only other one to top it.

[Jude]

One of the best closers to any Opeth album. To Bid You Farewell is the only other one to top it.
Yup. Although I dunno, White Cluster is absolute madness.

[Darkness]

Yup. Although I dunno, White Cluster is absolute madness.
Especially live. Very intense.

[Clunge]

BWP is probably both my favourite Opeth song and album.

It's just, immense all the time.

Though I do dig their acoustic stuff more than their heavy stuff, but every second of the BWP album just grips me.

[Insipid2000]

Yup. Although I dunno, White Cluster is absolute madness.

Yes Still Life kicks *** almost more than BWP. :thumb:

[VomitStainedCretin]

I was kind of disappointed when I first heard White Cluster, but after a while it really grows on you. I love Mikhael clean singing in this part:
"They wear white for me
Seemingly jaded and lost
I forge myself into your dreams
And here I am your life "

[Thor]

BWP is probably both my favourite Opeth song and album.

It's just, immense all the time.

Though I do dig their acoustic stuff more than their heavy stuff, but every second of the BWP album just grips me.
The only problem I have with that song is that the initial clean guitar part goes on for a bit too long without really changing. That's about it, though.

[Mr. Ron]

I love BWP, but i don't like the song blackwater park, oddly enough.

[Thor]

I love BWP, but i don't like the song blackwater park, oddly enough.
That is odd, seeing as how most fans of that album adore that song.

What's your reasoning?

[jpshortstuff]

BWP is my fav. album + song of Opeth

[Mr. Ron]

That is odd, seeing as how most fans of that album adore that song.

What's your reasoning?
It was cool the first time I listened to it, but after more listens it got old to me I guess.

*shrug*


I'm jamming out to Forest of October currently.

[Thor]

BWP is my fav. album + song of Opeth
BWP, while being an epic an excellent track, can't compete with the greatness of the album's opening two titans.

It was cool the first time I listened to it, but after more listens it got old to me I guess.

*shrug*


I'm jamming out to Forest of October currently.
So are you a fan of older Opeth to their newer stuff, then?

[Mr. Ron]

BWP, while being an epic an excellent track, can't compete with the greatness of the album's opening two titans.


So are you a fan of older Opeth to their newer stuff, then?
I love all of their stuff. Just some songs of theirs get old to me, but they are only a handful. I'm more of a old school Opeth fan though.

[Thor]

I love all of their stuff. Just some songs of theirs get old to me, but they are only a handful. I'm more of a old school Opeth fan though.
Their older stuff had more atmosphere, but the newer material appeals to me more because their songwriting improved greatly and has some of the best metal riffs known to man.

The Leper Affinity at 2:10 = orgasms everywhere for Thor

[Mr. Ron]

Their older stuff had more atmosphere, but the newer material appeals to me more because their songwriting improved greatly and has some of the best metal riffs known to man.

The Leper Affinity at 2:10 = orgasms everywhere for Thor
The Leper affinity is such a good song.

[Thor]

The Leper affinity is such a good song.
You couldn't more correct.

Currently I'm really digging "In the Mist She Was Standing" though. Those opening harmonized guitars get me every time.

[Mr. Ron]

You couldn't more correct.

Currently I'm really digging "In the Mist She Was Standing" though. Those opening harmonized guitars get me every time.
Thats what attracts me to their old stuff more. Double harmonies are sweet.

[Thor]

Thats what attracts me to their old stuff more. Double harmonies are sweet.
While most Opeth fans love that stuff, Mikael hates it now. If you've seen their documentary on their DVD he says that he just can't stand that sound anymore because everyone in Sweden was doing it.

Shame that they won't ever sound like that again. It'd be cool for them to do an album that went back to the early days of Opeth. A nice change of pace.

[Mr. Ron]

While most Opeth fans love that stuff, Mikael hates it now. If you've seen their d0cumentary on their DVD he says that he just can't stand that sound anymore because everyone in Sweden was doing it.

Shame that they won't ever sound like that again. It'd be cool for them to do an album that went back to the early days of Opeth. A nice change of pace.
Yeah, I have the DVD. It's a shame, since their earlier stuff was brilliant.

NP: Opeth- The night and the silent water.

[Thor]

Yeah, I have the DVD. It's a shame, since their earlier stuff was brilliant.

NP: Opeth- The night and the silent water.
I like their "newer" stuff more (BWP and Deliverance being my two favorites), but the old songs still have a soft spot for me. To Bid You Farewell is so close to being the band's best song ever.

[Eliminator]

What kidn of music are Opeth?

[Thor]

What kidn of music are Opeth?
Progressive death metal.

[Shattered_Future]

Progressive death metal, but they aren't held down to the stereotypes of progressive metal or death metal. It's heavy at parts, soothing at others. Intertwining distorted guitars and death growls mixed with singing, keyboards, and acoustics.

I'd like to see Opeth rerecord Morningrise with Steve Wilson.

[Eliminator]

oh i always thought they were nu-metal or something

[Mr. Ron]

oh i always thought they were nu-metal or something
Oh god no. the "nu" in nu-metal stands for "new urban" which means it's rock or metal with hip-hop elements in it. Opeth clearly does not have any rap influences in their music. :p

[Shattered_Future]

oh i always thought they were nu-metal or something

That's an offense punishable by death.

I won't do it, but others will...

[Thor]

oh i always thought they were nu-metal or something
Quit messing around. I know that you don't really think that. :thumb:

[Mr. Ron]

Then again....if Opeth ever did release a album with rap influences, I think i'd have to burn their CD's.

[Thor]

Then again....if Opeth ever did release a album with rap influences, I think i'd have to burn their CD's.
That would be the day the world would end. Babies heads would explode and my hair would light on fire.

[Mr. Ron]

That would be the day the world would end. Babies heads would explode and my hair would light on fire.
That's so tr00.

[BurningSky]

Then again....if Opeth ever did release a album with rap influences, I think i'd have to burn their CD's.

Start burning...

White faced, haggard grin
This serenity painted death
With a halo of bitter disease
Black paragon in lingering breath

[Mr. Ron]

Start burning...

White faced, haggard grin
This serenity painted death
With a halo of bitter disease
Black paragon in lingering breath
Just because it ryhmes doesn't mean it's rap.:p


When an Opeth album comes out referring to Melinda as a "ho" or "chicken head", THEN i'll start burning.

[BurningSky]

Just because it ryhmes doesn't mean it's rap.:p




Of course not, but this particular section emulates a hip-hop style beat. Just because the riff is created with distorted guitar doesn't mean it can't be rap...

Besides, rap as a style isn't bad at all, it's when the mainstream black stereotypes ruin it that makes it bad...

EDIT: Mikael refers to melind as "A harlot of God upon the earth" which is the same as a ho'...

[Spoonful of Shame]

I think in the Lamentations dvd Mikael says the first song he ever wrote when he was young was called "I hate hip-hop". hahaha.

[TojesDolan]

oh i always thought they were nu-metal or something
Silly eliminator.

And yeah Mike is tha homiez.

[Eliminator]

But... isn't this Opeth?

http://www.los40.com/los40media/los40/media/200508/11/actualidad/noticias/20050811l40l40not_11_I_SCO.jpg

[BurningSky]

Sombody on UltimateMetal did this awesome photoshop of Mikael during an interview. They put a backwards hat on his head, gave him hilarious shades, and a huge piece of bling. I wish I could find it...

[Toaster]

Start burning...

White faced, haggard grin
This serenity painted death
With a halo of bitter disease
Black paragon in lingering breath

Haha. True!

Mikael refers to melind as "A harlot of God upon the earth" which is the same as a ho'...

:lol:

[Sleepy]

Sombody on UltimateMetal did this awesome photoshop of Mikael during an interview. They put a backwards hat on his head, gave him hilarious shades, and a huge piece of bling. I wish I could find it...

I've seen that. I almost pissed myself the first time I stumbled across it.

I thought it was real for a while, too. Doesn't that strike anyone else as something Mikael would do to poke at the hip-hop trend?

[Thor]

But... isn't this Opeth?

http://www.los40.com/los40media/los40/media/200508/11/actualidad/noticias/20050811l40l40not_11_I_SCO.jpg
Eliminator: master of posting controversial ****.

[Mr. Ron]

But... isn't this Opeth?

http://www.los40.com/los40media/los40/media/200508/11/actualidad/noticias/20050811l40l40not_11_I_SCO.jpg
Oh dude....Korn is like....the new pink floyd.

[TojesDolan]

Anyway, there's nothing wrong with being metal and wearing von dutch.

z_z

NP: Novembre - Old lighthouse tale

[Thor]

http://qsysue.tagplazen.org/shows/opeth/03-14-06/DSCF4618.JPG

That's one of the sickest Opeth pictures I've ever seen. Mikael looks soo badass, and he's wearing a Darkthrone shirt! \m/ :)

[Cocaine]

Darkthrone isn't good.

[i am the robots]

Darkthrone is extremely good.

[Shattered_Future]

Darkthrone is lame.

[Thor]

I've got a soft spot for them, but I can easily understand why you wouldn't like them.

Here's another sweet pic:
http://myspace-837.vo.llnwd.net/00966/73/86/966646837_l.jpg

[Eliminator]

The only time I listened to Darkthrone, it sounded like static with some shouting overtop.

[Daven]

Darkthrone is ok.

[Txus]

Darkthrone are more than Ok :mad:

[Thor]

This is no longer the Opeth thread. :)

[Daven]

Opeth is ok. :eek:

[Txus]

Opeth are mediocre.

[Riva]

Ima hand out summa bans me boyos iffin' yous dun start not bein so goggly darn stupid, eh?

[i am the robots]

How about this thread becomes OPETH VS DARKTHRONE, THE BATTLE OF THE MOST UNRELATED BANDS EVER!

edit: Jason, you ban me, I'll unmake you.

[Riva]

That sounds like a dare. Do you double dare me, Matt. DO YOU?!?

[Anglachel]

Darkthrone isn't good.
Darkthrone is extremely good.
Darkthrone is lame.
I've got a soft spot for them, but I can easily understand why you wouldn't like them.
The only time I listened to Darkthrone, it sounded like static with some shouting overtop.
Darkthrone is ok.
Darkthrone are more than Ok




I agree with Thor

[Shattered_Future]

Man, this episode here has more drama than those stupid new UPN shows.

Opeth in less than 20 days. :cool:

[i am the robots]

That sounds like a dare. Do you double dare me, Matt. DO YOU?!?

I'm willing to take on the Universe ;).

edit: actually, feck that

[Shattered_Future]

And lose horribly?

[Futuro]

Probably already been talked about to death, but what are your opinions on this Axe guy? Last time I saw Opeth, Lopez blew me away. Im nervous about the drumming on the next album :(

[Thor]

I'm sure he'll be great with the heavier and faster material, but I'm skeptical about his playing in the soft spots. That's what made Lopez truly amazing.

[Sleepy]

Gah...I was so sad when Lopez left. I was lucky to have caught him live before he split.

[i am the robots]

Yeah, Lopez was mindblowingly good, I'm just sad he's gone, especially after the letdown of Ghost Reveries.

[Sleepy]

Yeah, Lopez was mindblowingly good, I'm just sad he's gone, especially after the letdown of Ghost Reveries.

I think I'm one of the only people here who don't bash GR fervently. It wasn't as good as, say, Still Life, but I still enjoyed it.

[i am the robots]

It's got a few good songs, but I can't listen to it all the way through.

[Jude]

I like it, but not near as much as other Opeth albums. The best tracks are up there with the classics, but some of the others are quite meh.

[pate]

Twelve days until I get to hear Godhead's Lament live!!!! :)

[eighty d]

I like it, but not near as much as other Opeth albums. The best tracks are up there with the classics, but some of the others are quite meh.

I don't think there's a single song on the album that doesn't have at least one part that completely blows me away. A lot of his clean vocal lines do it.

[Stoo]

I Love Ghost Reveries.

[Insipid2000]

I love it too.

[Carrionshine]

I just got home from Gigantour.

I'm sad to report that there was no Godhead's Lament for us. Just the other 4 songs. I was actually quite surprised at how big a reaction Opeth actually got. I walked around after their set and heard a bunch of "Holy ****, I've never heard of those guys before, but they were badass".

It was quite a kick *** performance from them. Every song was flawless. I felt it was just way too short. Megadeth owned all though. Wow. Just wow.

[Jude]

I don't think there's a single song on the album that doesn't have at least one part that completely blows me away. A lot of his clean vocal lines do it.
For me it's the lack of interesting riffs. Also the fact that the soft songs are totally lacking that beautiful acoustic playing that used to make mellow Opeth sections so long. It seems like the guitar is just thrown in there to get the job done, on heavy sections as well as soft.

[Mr. Ron]

Darkthrone isn't good.
You progs wouldn't understand blackmetal.

/snide

[TojesDolan]

You progs wouldn't understand blackmetal.

/snide
I understand it man. It's mildly good at times.

[Tyr]

I understand it man. It's mildly good at times.
Some of it, yes. Although I've never heard Darkthrone, so I'll reserve my judgement on that one.

[Mr. Ron]

I jk ITT

[Thor]

It's got a few good songs, but I can't listen to it all the way through.
A massive 123 on that. It's got some of Opeth's heaviest (and coolest) parts to date, but as a whole it's often painful to listen to.

I love Ghost of Perdition though. Such an amazing song.

[Stoo]

I agree with Jude. There's not enough of Opeth's trademark acoustic passages. I really like the mellow parts in the heavy songs but I feel like the full mellow songs aren't THAT amazing.

Put it this way, To Bid You Farewell is like 5 leagues above Hours Of Wealth, Isolation Years. (Even though I like them both).

[Luc214]

I Love Ghost Reveries.

I love Ghost Reveries too.

[Shadows Within]

Yeah thats a cool one, Im not a fan of there older stuff much neways.

[Luc214]

Darkthrone isn't good.

Yes they are.

[TojesDolan]

How reiterative. :p

On a related note, I think they are going a little bit more jazz in their slower pieces, so good times.

[alytee123]

I love Ghost Reveries too.

I really like it too, though admittidly some of it feels a bit repetitive, mostly just The Grand Conjuration feels a bit long to me, but its still a great album to me. Nothing beats Still Life though, though I havent heard all of BlackWater Park yet, its on my list...

[Shadows Within]

Actually the main reason I like Ghost Reveries is because it changes alot, like Ghost Of Perdition.

[TojesDolan]

The grand conjuratio nis the only song with apparent "commercial success" purposes, and I'm almost positive it was meant to be repetitive to be catchy. Nonetheless, it is a crime to make repetitive long songs, so whatever.

I like it. I'm listening to it at the moment.

[Luc214]

I really like it too, though admittidly some of it feels a bit repetitive, mostly just The Grand Conjuration feels a bit long to me, but its still a great album to me. Nothing beats Still Life though, though I havent heard all of BlackWater Park yet, its on my list...

The Grand Conjuration is one of my favorite Opeth songs, I don't know why, I just love it.

It's also the song that got me into Opeth.