Opeth

[Squirrel]

Outstanding drumming and bass playing, interesting, original riffs, great vocals, and contrast between light and shade.

Plenty of bands use this 'light and shade' [and in my opinion, to much much better effect]

I find the drumming rather bland and pale; it doesn't seem to jump out and grab me in any way.

I find his growls to be rather lacklustre, same for his riffs.

It's all subjective, as I say, so to that end, I find the points you stated to be the opposite to my thoughts.

[eighty d]

Ok, not in a derogative or provocative way, can somebody explain to me what makes this band so highly regarded ?

I just do not find anything interesting about Opeth; I find it to be drawn out and actually physically draining to listen to in the sense that I just cant stand it, it really really grates me.

I know this is subjective, but if anyone could chuck in what makes them so great, i'll listen to them with some more things in mind.

It's hard to say exactly what makes Opeth so great for me. I think what first drew me in (back when I was first starting to get into heavier music) were the vocals. At the time the switches between growling and clean singing were totally foreign to me and it got me hooked. Now it's not so much something totally different from other stuff I listen to, it's just that I still love both Mikael's clean singing and his harsh vocals.

I also really like the way the songs are constructed. Take The Drapery Falls for instance. That short little tension-building intro, then the opening heavy section, the soft first verses... it all flows perfectly for me. I think Mike uses dissonant intervals extremely well, without becoming abrasive in texture.

And on the Dirge For November vs. TGC: I love TGC and Dirge is my least favorite post-Still Life track. The middle section of TGC makes it for me. That part where it cuts out and then swells into a scream... ownage.

[Squirrel]

I can see the attraction of their use of tension and feel in songs; i'll give them that, they seem very good at writing songs more than just growl/clean etc, more the use of such things in a way that creates and atmosphere.

[Kage]

Opeth is inexplicably epic and beautiful music. Saying they combine heavy/soft is lame, because every other metal band and his mother does that.

The only other thing is that his vocals are amazing.

[Tyr]

Considering Blackwater Park has The Funeral Portrait and Dirge For November which has some hugely boring parts in it, Ghost Reveries is definately up there with it as an album. The worst part of Ghost Reveries is TGC, which is better than both of those songs.

Still Life beats Ghost Reveries though. Regardless... My Arms Your Hearse is a better album than Blackwater Park, probably. Even though Blackwater Park has some awesome songs.
MAYH is better than BWP, that's true. I just took two albums as examples.

[Stoo]

I really like Ghost Reveries. :)

[JamJar]

I really like it aswell, it's just that Opeth have at least four albums which are better than it IMO.

[BurningSky]

I really love the contrast and atmosphere that Opeth creates. Also, I love how they use dissonances and rhythmic variation to make the music heavy rather than downtuning and going "chug chug chug"...

I also really like the vocals...

[Thor]

MAYH is better than BWP, that's true. I just took two albums as examples.
Do I detect blasphemy in here? I think so! :thumb: Blackwater Park is much better, but I've really become partial to MAYH lately.

I can understand if you like it for its incredibly dark and gloomy atmosphere, but BWP just has flat out better songwriting.

[jpshortstuff]

i still have trouble listening to MAYH. i can't seem to concentrate on each song individually or through the album as a whole. same with orchid actually, but i really want to get into MAYH like i have with BWP and Deliverence.

[VomitStainedCretin]

I love MAYH, but it does have a couple of tracks that arent utterly amazing. In particular, I cant really get into Karma the same as Demon of the Fall or April Ethereal. Ive just bought Still Life and Deliverence, although Ive only listened to the former so far and just the once. On first impression, I thought Serenity Painted Death was a great song (I love the pinch harmonics and the evil sounding chorus). What does everyone else think of it?

[JamJar]

^It's my favourite song on Still Life. I love it for pretty much the same reason that you liked it on the first listen. Great song.

[Tyr]

Do I detect blasphemy in here? I think so! :thumb: Blackwater Park is much better, but I've really become partial to MAYH lately.

I can understand if you like it for its incredibly dark and gloomy atmosphere, but BWP just has flat out better songwriting.
BWP is a better album in terms of production, songwriting etc. It's the atmosphere that does MAYH for me.

@VomitStainedCretin: Serenity Painted Death is one of my favourite songs of all time.

[VomitStainedCretin]

Im just wondering something. As I mentioned, Ive just bought Deliverence(₤5) and Still Life (₤6), but Blackwater Park was just a tad more expensive (₤7) which is why I chose not to get it. Should I have bought it instead of either of the albums I got?

[Stoo]

Serenity Painted Death \M/! That pinch harmonic riff is awesome.

WHITE FACE, HAGGARD GRIN AND THE SERENITY PAINTED DEATH! :evil:

[Tyr]

All of those albums are incredibly good, but personally I like Blackwater Park more than Deliverance. I think Still Life and Blackwater Park are the two favourite albums for most.

[VomitStainedCretin]

Deliverence was just going incredibly cheaply and Im a sucker for bargains. Plus, I liked the title track when Id previously heard it, although its not amazing the whole way through - it has parts to it which dont really work that well together.

[jpshortstuff]

i need to listen to Still life a lot more too really pass my judgement on it or any of the songs. i've listened enough to know its a good album, but i still haven't got a good picture of all the songs in my head yet. except The Moor.

[Tyr]

For me Still Life is their best, but I know alot of people like BWP more.

[Jude]

Still Life reigns supreme. BWP and Morningrise are its right/left hand men, though.

[pate]

For me it's BWP reign supreme, with SL and MAYH as its right/left hand men.

[Tyr]

Righty and Lefty are BWP and MAYH.

[JamJar]

So I've just realised how much Wreath owns. I used to never like that song that much, but I've just listened to it now and it owns so much.

[Tyr]

Good for you! :thumb:

[Moses]

I think I really like Still Life.

I still don't understand you haters, Ghost Reveries is awesome. In terms of being good metal, it sucks, but in being prog and having great songwriting it owns.

[AA-12]

Metal Opeth >>>>>>>>>> Their prog stuff.

[Moses]

I completely disagree. Almost everything that I find interesting about them completely lies in their prog/genre crossing type stuff.

[pate]

Pre-GR Opeth > GR Opeth

:)

[AA-12]

I hate progressive when mixed with metal normally though. It ruins it for me. I highly prefer stuff like Orchid now.

[Moses]

I think their songwriting started getting good on MAYH, got significantly better on Still Life, stayed solid with better vocals on BWP and the songwriting is nearly perfect on GR.

Orchid and Morningrise are good but as a band they weren't very strong in my opinion. Very emotional and great content, but wasn't carried out as well as the new stuff, in other words amateur.

I'm starting to dislike any metal that isn't progressive. Besides even the old stuff of Opeth is progressive.

[AA-12]

MAYH will always be my favorite.

GR was just terribly unintersting and not heavy at all. Orchid and Morningrise are great. Very intense and heavy, which means me = happy ;)

[Moses]

I thought GR was significantly more interesting than most of the other stuff they've done. It's definately a newer sound and there's so much going on. It's also pretty heavy straight from the start.

[AA-12]

Well interesting to me =/= prog/expiramental stuff like GR. I can't grasp the heaviness though. There's more heaviness in St. Anger than GR :p

[Moses]

Oh for sure. St. Anger was a generally heavy album, just don't forget that heavy =/= good.

I imagine GR as a mixture of Deliverance and Damnation, what with the jazz influences and stuff they adopted on those albums.

[Spoonful of Shame]

Actually both of the times of I have seen Opeth live I would say that the songs they played off GR were the heaviest. I couldn’t believe how kick-*** the grand conjuration was live.

[AA-12]

Oh for sure. St. Anger was a generally heavy album, just don't forget that heavy =/= good.

I imagine GR as a mixture of Deliverance and Damnation, what with the jazz influences and stuff they adopted on those albums.
Metal must be heavy to be good (in my opinion of course), but yeah, heavy =/= good.

[Tyr]

TGC is alot better and heavier live than on the album.

[pate]

TGC is alot better and heavier live than on the album.

QFT

I hate the recorded version, but I've seen it live twice, and it owned both times.

[Moses]

Metal must be heavy to be good (in my opinion of course), but yeah, heavy =/= good.
I don't know, I like Iron Maiden because they're awesome, not because they're heavy.

[Tyr]

QFT

I hate the recorded version, but I've seen it live twice, and it owned both times.
The atmosphere created live is awesome. The last time I saw them, they opened with TGC. Great opener.

[AA-12]

I don't know, I like Iron Maiden because they're awesome, not because they're heavy.
They are definitely heavy though.

[Moses]

Not to me really.

Anyway, in my opinion Orchid and Morningrise aren't really that heavy. They sound pretty thin to me for some reason, but I'm pretty sure they weren't going for the whole heavy thing.

[AA-12]

Hmm.

Maybe we just see things different. You being a jazz/fusion lover and me being a typical metalhead type, haha. Ironically enough, my favorite guitarist is a fusion player.

[Moses]

Who's that?

[AA-12]

Shawn Lane. I figured you'd know because of my unholy level of whoring, haha.

[TojesDolan]

Not to me really.

Anyway, in my opinion Orchid and Morningrise aren't really that heavy. They sound pretty thin to me for some reason, but I'm pretty sure they weren't going for the whole heavy thing.
It's the drums, the bass drum is way too high in the mix and there are no interesting fills or rhtyhms around to make it overall a "heavy" album.

I think.

[Moses]

Haven't been around for a little while though so I didn't know. Shawn Lane is great. As far as fusion players go I love Frank Gambale and Al Di Meola, except Al's fusion stuff is nothing compared to his new acoustic stuff with Stanley Clarke. Anyway yeah I like jazz.
It's the drums, the bass drum is way too high in the mix and there are no interesting fills or rhtyhms around to make it overall a "heavy" album.

I think.
That and the way the guitar parts were written. The harmonies are good but thin and weren't really intended to be heavy. The vocals are thin and didn't adopt his amazing growl in at the time. In my opinion the heaviest moment on Orchid is the long part in Under the Weeping Moon and it's an acoustic section. That's just how I see it.

[AA-12]

Hearing Lane just changed my opinion on music. Not only is he arguably one of the best all around players (not only on guitar either) of all time technical wise, but he puts so much feeling and emotion into his playing. It just boggles my mind how one man can be so dedicated to achieve that during his short lived life.

[Carrionshine]

Pre-GR Opeth > GR Opeth

:)

Are we comparing 7 albums to 1 album? If so, then yes, the easy victory does indeed go to pre-GR Opeth.

It's funny, GR is quite unpopular on this site. However, on other sites I go to it's actually very liked by everyone. I guess it just depends on where you go.

I personally love that freakin album. I was listening to The Baying of the Hounds this morning and it gave me chills like I havent had in a long time while listening to a song. That song is pure genius.

[Kage]

Allmusic puts Ghost Reverie well for me:

"Ghost Reveries comes together like a suite, characters have various faces and traits, but they are all reflections in a mirror that retains no permanent image. This album is a culmination of everything Opeth have worked toward throughout their career. It's fully realized, stunningly beautiful, and emotionally fragmented; it's a terrain where power, tenderness, and sheer grief hold forth under heavy manners. Awesome. "

[Moses]

Allmusic puts Ghost Reverie well for me:

"Ghost Reveries comes together like a suite, characters have various faces and traits, but they are all reflections in a mirror that retains no permanent image. This album is a culmination of everything Opeth have worked toward throughout their career. It's fully realized, stunningly beautiful, and emotionally fragmented; it's a terrain where power, tenderness, and sheer grief hold forth under heavy manners. Awesome. "
I agree. It's a really big mix of things, yet isn't a hodgepodge of crap.

[Det_Nosnip]

I agree that Orchid/Morningrise are generally not very "heavy" albums. The emphasis was very much on the dual harmonies and experimental song structures...for me, MAYH was the first truly heavy Opeth album...although it arguably remains their heaviest to date (although Deliverance is definitely more straight-forward aggressive, I personally feel that MAYH maintains a much stronger emotional weight, so to say).

Oh, and GR is a great album.

[hollowpainting]

I cannot stand GR. It pales in line with MAYH & MA.

[i am the robots]

Allmusic puts Ghost Reverie well for me:

"Ghost Reveries comes together like a suite, characters have various faces and traits, but they are all reflections in a mirror that retains no permanent image. This album is a culmination of everything Opeth have worked toward throughout their career. It's fully realized, stunningly beautiful, and emotionally fragmented; it's a terrain where power, tenderness, and sheer grief hold forth under heavy manners. Awesome. "

Where's the flamenco passages if its a combination of everything Opeth has worked on?

[Darkness]

Wheres the killer acoustic guitar lines... I didn't hear any of those on GR. Oh and the lyrics fail. "These are the trees" as apposed to "*insert any other Opeth lyric ever*"

Oh wait, wasn't the riffing horribly sub part to that of every other Opeth album? (save the obvious Damnation and Orchid/Morningrise)

[Shadius]

As i've said before. I never listened to Opeth just for the riffs. I listen to them for the overall feel of the songs, and Mike's voice. GR is an amazing album, and I love it. So the riffs arn't as good as riffs on previous albums, fine, fair enough, really, if anything, that would bring the album down half a star or a star tops seeing as Opeth arn't all about the riffs anyway.

Then you consider the fact that Mike's clean singing is the best it's ever been. That takes it back up, plus I love the songs on it. The single being the worst song, oddly.

GoP and Baying of the hounds are classic Opeth songs that should be on every set, that alone shows the album isn't lacking. Most other albums have a couple of so stand-out tracks too, and the standouts here are just as good.

[pate]

Yeah, I thought the riffs(mostly) failed.

GR just sounds really bland compared to any other Opeth album.

[TojesDolan]

That and the way the guitar parts were written. The harmonies are good but thin and weren't really intended to be heavy. The vocals are thin and didn't adopt his amazing growl in at the time. In my opinion the heaviest moment on Orchid is the long part in Under the Weeping Moon and it's an acoustic section. That's just how I see it.

Yeah, those are my feelings on it. That and the fact that it doesn't "flow" like the rest of their material.

Where's the flamenco passages if its a combination of everything Opeth has worked on?

In that part of Ghost of perdition after the first growled-verses, then a clean vocal, and then there's this "flamenco passage" :p

[Kage]

GR didn't have MAJOR METAL RIFFAGE so it SUX DICK.

[i am the robots]

In that part of Ghost of perdition after the first growled-verses, then a clean vocal, and then there's this "flamenco passage" :p

Nothing like anything off of Morningrise :angry:.

[Moses]

Where's the flamenco passages if its a combination of everything Opeth has worked on?
Lol Opeth has never done any flamenco.

Just because it sounds like it's spanish doesn't mean it's flamenco.

[TojesDolan]

Maybe we're all thinking about the FINGERPICKED PARTS by Opeth but that don't constitue flamenco, but FINGERPICKED PARTS themselves.

I like that one in Bleak, The moor and Serenity Painted Death. Those have got to be my favorite.

[Moses]

I just see Opeth as more diverse now. Plus they have more jazz influence which is an excellent.

[TojesDolan]

I just see Opeth as more diverse now. Plus they have more jazz influence which is an excellent.
Hmmm.

Where exactly? I fail to see where. O_O

[Carrionshine]

Nothing like anything off of Morningrise :angry:.

Nothing after Still Life has acoustic passages like Morningrise.

[UpperDecker]

Wheres the killer acoustic guitar lines... I didn't hear any of those on GR. Oh and the lyrics fail. "These are the trees" as apposed to "*insert any other Opeth lyric ever*"

Oh wait, wasn't the riffing horribly sub part to that of every other Opeth album? (save the obvious Damnation and Orchid/Morningrise)

The album is fine. I just find it to be more of an upbeat kinda thing that the other albums don't have. I don't listen to GR that much but when i do its great.

[i am the robots]

Nothing after Still Life has acoustic passages like Morningrise.

That's my main beef with newer Opeth.

[eighty d]

Oh and the lyrics fail. "These are the trees" as apposed to "*insert any other Opeth lyric ever*"


Enough of this
You will leave me now
You will see it now


Losing sleep
In too deep
Fading sun
What have I done

Lyrics aren't really Opeth's strong suit. And I still maintain that GR is a fantastic album.

[TojesDolan]

Lyrics aren't really Opeth's strong suit. And I still maintain that GR is a fantastic album.
You didn't pick the particularly better written parts.

That was biased.

On a related note, BWP has the most complex Opeth lyrics, in my opinion.

[JamJar]

My favourite Opeth album lyrically is definitely MAYH.

[eighty d]

You didn't pick the particularly better written parts.

That was biased.

On a related note, BWP has the most complex Opeth lyrics, in my opinion.

And he picked a bad part of GR. Same deal. The parts that I picked get overlooked because of the general amazingness of BWP and Deliverance. I do the same for the bad lyrics on GR.

[Moses]

Hmmm.

Where exactly? I fail to see where. O_O
Just listen to the bass and drums.

[i am the robots]

Lyrics aren't really Opeth's strong suit. And I still maintain that GR is a fantastic album.

Opeth's lyrics are actually quite fantastic when Mike's not trying to rhyme.

[TojesDolan]

Just listen to the bass and drums.
Ah OK.

Yeah I saw that sometime.

Anyway, they might change that after Lopez left, with Axe and all that jazz, you know.

[hollowpainting]

Lyrics aren't really Opeth's strong suit. And I still maintain that GR is a fantastic album.
You cannot deny the lyrics on damnation were quite deep and well illistrated.

[Nostalgia]

Damnation has good lyrics, but I still think The Twilight Is My Robe is still one of their best-written songs.

[Txus]

I love Opeth lyrics, Morningrise contains my favorite lyrics.

[i am the robots]

The lyrics on Damnation are solid gold.

I can't see the meaning of this life I'm leading
I try to forget you as you forgot me
This time there is nothing left for you to take
This is goodbye

awesome.

[UpperDecker]

It just occurred to me that it would be so funny if the next Opeth album had Behemoth vocals.

[Carrionshine]

That's my main beef with newer Opeth.

I actually agree. I sorely miss those.

You cannot deny the lyrics on damnation were quite deep and well illistrated.
If I remember correctly, I believe Mikael said he sat in a room in the studio and wrote whatever bull**** came to mind for both those D/D albums. ****, he himself will tell you that most of the lyrics are pure meaningless rubbish. Nevertheless, I enjoy his lyrics a great deal because they do paint some great beautiful pictures and atmospheres.

I however love the lyrics on GR. I mean, how can you read the lyrics to The Baying of the Hounds and not think it's awesome? They're so evil! Isolation Years is another stand out lyrical track.

[pate]

A lot of the beauty of his lyrics comes naturally, because of the elequence with which he speaks. He has an awesome vocabulary and wit.

[Jude]

Lyrics aren't really Opeth's strong suit. And I still maintain that GR is a fantastic album.
Harlequin Forest is almost the only part of GR with really bad lyrics, and likewise most Opeth lyrics are great. Everyone picks on GR's lyrics because HF's are just SO horrible, but the whole album's lyrics are on par with any other Opeth, really.

I mean, how can you read the lyrics to The Baying of the Hounds and not think it's awesome?
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That "his mouth is a vortex....his body is a country" part is ****-mazing.

[Kage]

What are you on about? I think Harlequin Forest is with Ghost of Perdition as the best song on the album, and it has great lyrics.

[Jude]

What are you on about? I think Harlequin Forest is with Ghost of Perdition as the best song on the album, and it has great lyrics.
It just oozes cheese. I think Beneath the Mire is also kind of weak, and Atonement isn't really too great either...in fact, neither is Hours of Wealth. None of the songs are really lyrically great...except Ghost of Perdition and Baying of the Hounds, which by themselves make up for any other deficiencies the album has.

[Kage]

Ghost of Perdition is truly a lyrical masterpiece.

In fact, now that I think about it, those lyrics remind me of a literature short story I read. Damn it, I can't think of the name. It was about a guy who couldn't get past his girlfriend dying so he kept her corpse around or something. There was more to it than that, though.

[Darkness]

Lyrics aren't really Opeth's strong suit. And I still maintain that GR is a fantastic album.
That was stupid. Read the MAYH lyrics all the way through, as well as Still Life. Prepare to be schooled in the art of lyrics.

GR didn't have MAJOR METAL RIFFAGE so it SUX DICK.
Pretty much, the amazing riffs blended with Mikaels always excellent vocals are what make Opeth, thats pretty much fact. This album had Mikaels always excellent vocals, but "DUN DUN DUN" and "CHUG CHCHCHUG" doesn't work - listen to BWP for the amazing riffing I'm talking about.

I'm only pursuing this argument because I really was disappointed with GR, and I know I'm not the only one. It's not like I really mind that this album doesn't stick with me like the others do, I just hope the future brings a better progression for the band. I won't argue anymore about this album, it's nearly been done to death in this thread.

[Kage]

Well it's not like I haven't heard the obviously legendary riffing on BWP. But there's more to an album than that for me. Maybe that's not so for you.

[Darkness]

Well good riffing helps make good song writing IMO. Though you obviously can have one without the other. GOP doesn't really have any good well written riffs IMO, but the song writing was just so good that the song is now an Opeth classic. It's not one of my favorites, but noone can deny that the song is anything short of amazing just because of the structure and sheer vocal emotion.

[Moses]

I disagree. Riffs are a big part of why I dislike alot of metal.

[Shadius]

I disagree. Riffs are a big part of why I dislike alot of metal.

Riffs are just as good as chords for me. Thats why all my songs contain both, well, most do. Ideally the vast majority of my songs would have a good riff in them to make them stand out. Either that or an interesting arpeggio'd chord progression or two.

That said, songs arn't all about the riffs, damnit.

[Moses]

It's just a really uninteresting and stupid idea to me. It's like every band on the face of the earth has to have a repeating guitar part in every song. Like there's no other way to make a song. Go talk to mister Beethoven for a bit, Opeth.

[Clunge]

Atonement sounds JUST like Porcupine Tree.

Steve Wilson influence d'ya think?

[JamJar]

Atonement sounds JUST like Porcupine Tree.

Steve Wilson influence d'ya think?

I only just realised that it sounded like PT when you said. It really does doesn't it?

[Darkness]

It's just a really uninteresting and stupid idea to me. It's like every band on the face of the earth has to have a repeating guitar part in every song. Like there's no other way to make a song. Go talk to mister Beethoven for a bit, Opeth.
...are you kidding man? Nothings wrong with haveing some riff based songs. Opeth never does only like 3 riffs repeated throughout a whole song, you've picked the wrong band to say that about. Opeth always blend wonderfull riffs/leads with dissonant, heavy chords (The Drapery Falls). Just because a riff in the intro shows itself at the end of the song (often 6-8 minutes later) doesn't meen the band is uninteresting and stupid.

[Moses]

...are you kidding man? Nothings wrong with haveing some riff based songs. Opeth never does only like 3 riffs repeated throughout a whole song, you've picked the wrong band to say that about. Opeth always blend wonderfull riffs/leads with dissonant, heavy chords (The Drapery Falls). Just because a riff in the intro shows itself at the end of the song (often 6-8 minutes later) doesn't meen the band is uninteresting and stupid.
Of course Opeth probably has the best usage of riffs than any other metal band, which is probably because they are the best metal band, but I'm saying the whole entire idea of riffs in music at all was a bad idea. Classical composers laugh at the idea of "riffs". I don't laugh I just think it oversimplifies things.

/getting *** kicked by Wreath.

[pate]

*riffs Moses's head off*

[i am the robots]

I like when kids who don't know anything about music criticize Opeth:

'Their riffs are gay, it's like they threw a bunch of notes together to sound hard.'

[pate]

I'd rather hear that instead of "They are emo. 'Waah, my girlfriend'"

At least the riff argument is somewhat subjective, but give me any "Waah, my girlfriend" in Opeth, other than maybe parts of Still Life, but that's part of a story so it's acceptable. And it isn't exactly whining.

[Moses]

I'd rather hear that instead of "They are emo. 'Waah, my girlfriend'"

At least the riff argument is somewhat subjective, but give me any "Waah, my girlfriend" in Opeth, other than maybe parts of Still Life, but that's part of a story so it's acceptable. And it isn't exactly whining.
Believe it or not I've heard that before. The guy that I heard it from is a big Devildriver fan so I wouldn't expect him to have a very high IQ or anything like that though.

[Kage]

I agree with Moses on this matter.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ghost of Perdition is truly a lyrical masterpiece.

In fact, now that I think about it, those lyrics remind me of a literature short story I read. Damn it, I can't think of the name. It was about a guy who couldn't get past his girlfriend dying so he kept her corpse around or something. There was more to it than that, though.

You mean the movie Psycho?

Or wait, that was the dude's mom, huh. :p

Anyways, I agree with you that Ghost of Perdition and Harlequin Forest are the best tracks on GR. My least favorite is probably The Grand Conjuration. The last 3 minutes are so meaningless. It would be so much more powerful if Opeth would have just ended the track after the intro riff was played again. Ugh.

Oh, and regaring Atonement sounding like Porcupine Tree - Maybe. Maybe I can heard the main 'riff' in a Porcupine Tree song, but other than that, there are no similarities. The atmosphere isn't even close, the bass is extremely un-Colin...You guys need to listen to more PT. :p

[Det_Nosnip]

Just listen to the bass and drums.
Not to mention Mikael's guitarplaying and tone.

Anyways, I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about. Some of my favorite Opeth riffs are from GR - the climactic stop/start one on Ghost of Perdition ("Ghost of Perdiiiiiittttiiiioooon") is a great example.

I've heard alot of criticisms of GR that are just plain silly. For example, "Too many repeated riffs" is a fairly ironic thing to say, considering that the album probably has the LEAST amount of repetitions compared to previous albums. That, actually, is my one major complaint with GR. The repetition and development in the older songs tended to give them a bit more...breathing room. With GR, I feel like the band was trying to cram too many ideas onto one record - they almost could have done another D/D type thing with the amount of material on it.

I still think that it's a solid as hell album, though. You guys who are complaining about the lack of fingerpicked guitaring need to seriously get over that. Yeah, it's cool...but they've already put out 7 albums chock full of it. If they started forcing those kinds of parts onto the music, it would sound horribly contrived..."oh, the fans want us to do this, better find a way of making it work or else the album won't sell!" :rolleyes:

[Kage]

Progressive fans tend to, ironically enough, hate change and/or progress. It's funny when people go on about evolving but what they really want the band to do is keep doing the same thing they've always done.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm not sure if they ever used 12 sting guitars before GR, but I really like that sound in Ghost of Perdition. There are very few things that sound bad on a 12 string, but still, they sound even better played by Opeth.

[Kronos]

12 stringers do figure quite heavily pre-GR.

My brother could give you chapter and verse on it but I can't.

[Flynn]

My favourite Opeth album lyrically is definitely MAYH.


Ditto. I like My Arms, Your Hearse all around, in every aspect.

[i am the robots]

I've grown to be in that grouping too... it seems to be the progression of every Opeth fan after a couple of years of listening.

[Crysiss]

Ditto. I like My Arms, Your Hearse all around, in every aspect.

Oh yes..

Ive really been wanting to listen to still life for the longest time. I lost that CD and I cant find a link now:(

[Stoo]

I wonder what songs Opeth will play when I see them in November... I mean they already toured after the release of Ghost Reveries, hopefully they'll look back at what they played last time, and mix it around.

I really wanna hear these songs;

Serenity Painted Death
The Moor
The Baying Of The Hounds
Blackwater Park!
Master's Apprentices
April Ethereal.

Anyway, I'm really just rubbing it in all the Americans faces. :p

[Kage]

They played Blackwater Park when I saw them. Definately one of the highlights, along with Face of Melinda and Baying of the Hounds.

[Stoo]

Ugh man that would have ruled.

When I saw them in November last year they played; (In no order cept first and last)

Ghost of Perdition
When
Under The Weeping Moon
Bleak
Closure
Deliverance
The Grand Conjuration
White Cluster
Requiem
Demon Of The Fall.

[Kage]

I think When is one of Opeth's absolute worst songs. It's so dry, it's just powerchords and annoyingly frenetic drumming. It lacks the usual Opeth dynamic.

The rest of that sounds pretty good though. Requiem would have been amazing to see.

[Stoo]

It was a nice suprise.

I saw them at Download this year and they played;

TGC
Deliverance
Closure
The Leper Affinity.

Was a bit annoying in that TLA was the only one I hadn't seen live...

And of course I have Lamentations which has it. So no real suprises.

[Shattered_Future]

I hope they pull out a so called "greatest hits" setlist when I see them in September. They're on Gigantour, so there's probably gonna be a good chance they'll play their more famous songs.

[TojesDolan]

*Waits patiently for a tour near tojes location*

[Daven]

Hey, where exactly in Mexico do you live?

*hopes is somewhere near GT*

[Flynn]

I think When is one of Opeth's absolute worst songs. It's so dry, it's just powerchords and annoyingly frenetic drumming. It lacks the usual Opeth dynamic.


I think When is one of my favorite Opeth songs from the hearse. The song has great structure, building up to the climax on the outro. You're missing something really big on MAYH if you dislike this song.

[Carrionshine]

^Word.

When is and always will be one of my top Opeth songs.

[Kronos]

I've grown to be in that grouping too... it seems to be the progression of every Opeth fan after a couple of years of listening.
Not me. Careful with the use of that word "every"
I think it's their worst by some margin.


My opinion of course

[Neoteric]

Argh, I want to go see Opeth but I'm broke....

[JamJar]

Argh, I want to go see Opeth but I'm broke....

I share your pain. :(

[Jude]

Atonement sounds JUST like Porcupine Tree.

Steve Wilson influence d'ya think?
I'm sure there's some SW influence in general, but Atonement does NOT sound like Porcupine Tree

[Kage]

In fact, it's amazing just how little it sounds like Porcupine Tree.

[Jude]

It does sound more like PT than other Opeth songs, but that's not saying much.

If anything, Ghost of Perdition reminds me of PT. That riffing at the beginning with the organ backing it reminds me of Arriving Somewhere.

[BurningSky]

Nah, no Opeth songs sound like Porcupine Tree because Mikael never uses Dsus2, Cadd9, or that crazy Bb chord...

Also, there is no point on any Opeth song where the bass sounds remotely similar to Colin...

[Sleepy]

I'm seeing Opeth on Gigantour on the 12th of September. Just thought I'd rub it in everyone's face. :)

And this time, they better ****ing play The Moor.

[BurningSky]

I'm seeing Opeth on Gigantour on the 12th of September. Just thought I'd rub it in everyone's face. :)

And this time, they better ****ing play The Moor.

Don't get your hopes up. Look forward to The Grand Conjuration, Deliverance, and either In My Time of Need or Closure...

[Kage]

Nah, no Opeth songs sound like Porcupine Tree because Mikael never uses Dsus2, Cadd9, or that crazy Bb chord...

Also, there is no point on any Opeth song where the bass sounds remotely similar to Colin...
Yeah, definately. All those things and more contribute to a completely different vibe.

[Sleepy]

Don't get your hopes up. Look forward to The Grand Conjuration, Deliverance, and either In My Time of Need or Closure...

Hmmm.

I saw them in February. They played Ghost of Perdition and The Grand Conjuration, but that was it off Ghost Reveries.

They played a lot of MAYH and Orchid, which was a pleasant surprise. Just nothing good off Still Life (my personal favorite Opeth).

[BurningSky]

Hmmm.

I saw them in February. They played Ghost of Perdition and The Grand Conjuration, but that was it off Ghost Reveries.

They played a lot of MAYH and Orchid, which was a pleasant surprise. Just nothing good off Still Life (my personal favorite Opeth).

Well, you are seeing them on Gigantour which gives them limited time, am I correct..?

In those situations, Opeth usually stick with a rather flat setlist (IMO), so I always make sure to see them when they have at least an hour...

[Sleepy]

Well, you are seeing them on Gigantour which gives them limited time, am I correct..?

In those situations, Opeth usually stick with a rather flat setlist (IMO), so I always make sure to see them when they have at least an hour...

Yeah, they had an hour the other time I saw them. That's when they were touring with Dark Tranquillity :) and Devildriver :angry: . They don't have any of the supporting acts playing on this show, though, only the four main bands. Maybe that means longer setlists for all?

[BurningSky]

Yeah, they had an hour the other time I saw them. That's when they were touring with Dark Tranquillity :) and Devildriver :angry: . They don't have any of the supporting acts playing on this show, though, only the four main bands. Maybe that means longer setlists for all?

We all hope...

The most played Still Life song is, I think, White Cluster. They pulled out Face of Melinda in that one tour which was a treat, but I really wish they'd make The Moor or Serenity Painted Death a staple of their setlist...

[eighty d]

We all hope...

The most played Still Life song is, I think, White Cluster.

Which is a shame, because IMO it's the worst song on the album. I'd kill to see Moonlapse Vertigo live. I've never understood the lack of love for that song.

[BurningSky]

Which is a shame, because IMO it's the worst song on the album. I'd kill to see Moonlapse Vertigo live. I've never understood the lack of love for that song.

Apparently it's a song that doesn't work too well live. At least that's what Mike says in interviews...

[Captain Quentin]

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR:angry: opeth is being replaced by ****ing soulfly for Gigantour in Australia :angry: :angry: :angry:

[Mr. Ron]

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR:angry: opeth is being replaced by ****ing soulfly for Gigantour in Australia :angry: :angry: :angry:
Hahaha, soulfly are ****ing terrible!

[Sleepy]

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR:angry: opeth is being replaced by ****ing soulfly for Gigantour in Australia :angry: :angry: :angry:

You have my condolonces, friend.

[Elmo McCheese]

I'm missing Opeth at Gigantour because my dad is having his third wedding on that day. The place they're playing at is about a half mile from my house too, so at least I would have been able sit on my back porch and hear some of the bands.

I better be able to wear a top hat.

[Det_Nosnip]

Progressive fans tend to, ironically enough, hate change and/or progress. It's funny when people go on about evolving but what they really want the band to do is keep doing the same thing they've always done.

Too true, unfortunately.

I may as well plug this track that I'm working on while in the Opeth thread, as it shows the clearest Opeth influence out of most of what I've done. It's all MIDI programming right now so it sounds like **** (especially the electrics :( ), but I actually think that the classical guitar bit came out pretty well. If anybody is willing (and able) to play and record this once I'm finished, that would rock. Otherwise, if anyone wants to let me know what they think, that'd be cool too!

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=501637&songID=4322723

If that doesn't work:
http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=4322723&q=hi

I can provide sheet music and/or midi track to load into guitar pro if needed.

[Crysiss]

Ill check that out^^

EDIT: I can hear the influences...

[Moses]

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR:angry: opeth is being replaced by ****ing soulfly for Gigantour in Australia :angry: :angry: :angry:
owned

[Jude]

Which is a shame, because IMO it's the worst song on the album. I'd kill to see Moonlapse Vertigo live. I've never understood the lack of love for that song.
WTF? White Cluster owns the crap out of most of Still Life.

Well actually, I'd say Face of Melinda>The Moor>Godhead's Lament>White Cluster>Serenity Painted Death>Moonlapse Vertigo>Benighted.


So....HALF of Still Life.

[the2stranger]

AFter owning the mp3 version for 3 years, I finally bought BWP original yesterday. :cool:

[Tyr]

Awesome. One of my top three Opeth albums. \m/

[TojesDolan]

Eh, I want to get My arms, your hearse.

Original. I used to have a crappy rip.

[the2stranger]

Awesome. One of my top three Opeth albums. \m/
My 2nd favorite, nothing can top Morningrise in my opinion though. :)
\m/

[Tyr]

Still Life FTW!

[the2stranger]

DAAAAAH!!!!
Too many great albums. :(

[pate]

BWP > SL > MAYH

My top 3.

[Txus]

Morningrise > MAYH > BWP

My top 3.

[BurningSky]

Don't tell me it's list time again..?

SL>D2>BWP>MAYH>GR>D1>Orchid>MR

How do we abbreviate Orchid here..?

[JamJar]

We do lists far too many times.

SL > MAYH > BWP > GR > D1 > D2 > MR > Orchid

[Tyr]

Still Life > My Arms, Your Hearse > Blackwater Park

[Moses]

BWP>SL>Deliverance>MAYH>Damnation>GR>Orchid>Morningrise

And they switch around alot.

[pate]

Oh hell...

BWP > SL > MAYH > Damnation > Deliverence > Morningrise > Orchid > GR

[Tyr]

SL > MAYH > BWP > Deliverance > Damnation > GR > MR > Orchid

[the2stranger]

I started this, so I'd better finish. :p

Morningrise>BWP>SL>Deliverance>MAYH>Damntion>Orchid>GR

[Stoo]

I'll attempt this.

BWP>SL>M>MAYH>GR>D1>D2>O.

Probably changes.

[Jude]

For me it's

FPB>RSO>FJS>AKR>NFH>VNNFF

[Shadows]

Why do we constantly move to lists? :p

Orchid>GR>Damantion>BWP>MR>MAYH>Deliverance>SL

[Det_Nosnip]

WTF? White Cluster owns the crap out of most of Still Life.

Well actually, I'd say Face of Melinda>The Moor>Godhead's Lament>White Cluster>Serenity Painted Death>Moonlapse Vertigo>Benighted.


So....HALF of Still Life.

How come Benighted is so low? :(

[8VM]

I gave a listen and I dont see the big deal about them

[Det_Nosnip]

So, just got my Gigantour tickets...I'm mostly going for Opeth, Arch Enemy, and Into Eternity, but it should be a fun show nonetheless. :cool:

[Moses]

I gave a listen and I dont see the big deal about them
You will learn.

[Sleepy]

You will learn.

Or mebe he is teh masterer of teh universe and opeth is bad cuz he say it is!!1!!1!111one!!!!1

And Benighted is probably my favorite Opeth ballad.

"Came and distorted your sight...
...Saw you benighted by your friiiiiiiight"

:)

[eighty d]

WTF? White Cluster owns the crap out of most of Still Life.

Well actually, I'd say Face of Melinda>The Moor>Godhead's Lament>White Cluster>Serenity Painted Death>Moonlapse Vertigo>Benighted.


So....HALF of Still Life.

Benighted>The Moor>Moonlapse Vertigo>Face of Melinda=Godhead's Lament>Serenity Painted Death>White Cluster

C'mon, Benighted kicks all kinds of ***. And it's one of my favorite songs to play on an acoustic too.

EDIT:
If anybody is willing (and able) to play and record this once I'm finished, that would rock.

I can't guarantee having time to learn and record it, but if you could send me the music when you're done with it I'll give it a try.

[Tyr]

Serenity Painted Death and Face of Melinda are my two favourite songs off of SL.

[the2stranger]

I love The Moor and Godhead's Lament, esp, the clean part in Godhead's.
SO great.

[Stormrider]

The Moor and Serenity Painted Death are my favroites off of Still Life.

And yeah, that clean part in Godhead's Lament is great.

[the2stranger]

"What would they care, if I did stay, no one should know oooh ooh."
Pure beauty.

[Stormrider]

Yeah, except a few people in here seem to make fun of that part.

cough-Darkness-cough

:mad:

[Tyr]

Best part of the song.

[the2stranger]

Yeah, except a few people in here seem to make fun of that part.

cough-Darkness-cough

:mad:
Why is that? :-\

[actionfan32]

Yeah the soft part in Godhead's Lament is awesome. Although Face of Melinda's my favorite song off of Still Life. The part where the heavy riff comes in and Mikael starts singing ("I took her by the hand...") is just amazing, my favorite part of the whole album, and one of my favorite Opeth moments in general.

[JamJar]

"What would they care if I was gay
No one would know, homo."

That part is great though.

[the2stranger]

:lol:
It does sound funny, but no one has the right to make fun of that song. :mad:

[Stormrider]

It does kinda sound like that haha, but who cares, I love that part.

And yeah, when the distortion comes in Face of Melinda, it's awsome.

[Flynn]

It does kinda sound like that haha, but who cares, I love that part.

And yeah, when the distortion comes in Face of Melinda, it's awsome.


Yes it is :)


My Arms, Your Hearse>Morningrise>Orchid>Still Life>Deliverance>Blackwater Park>Damnation>Ghost Reveries

[Spoonful of Shame]

Serenity Painted Death and Face of Melinda are my twp favourite songs off of SL.

I love Serenity Painted Death. I am going to learn it on guitar soon.

[Flynn]

I love Serenity Painted Death. I am going to learn it on guitar soon.


That's the first song from Still Life I learned, and it's really fun to play. Great song too, my favorite from Still Life by far :)

[Jude]

How come Benighted is so low? :(
The thing about Still Life is, it's super consistent so each song is barely lower on my list than the song above it. Most could easily trade places any time.

[TojesDolan]

Call me a mad man but I really enjoy Moonlapse Vertigo out of Still Life.

Maybe I'm slightly tired of the rest of the songs.

[Tyr]

I enjoy all of the songs off of SL.

[JamJar]

Moonlapse Vertigo is awsome. SL is easily Opeth's most consistent album.

[Shadows]

I think I'm the only one here who favors all other Opeth albums over Still Life. =\

[Darkness]

I think I'm the only one here who favors all other Opeth albums over Still Life. =\
Probably. Though I don't really have a favorite, Still Life is on the higher end of the list for me. It's something like... Still Life = BWP = MAYH = Deliverance > Morningrise = Orchid = Damnation > GR for me.

[Shadows]

For some reason SL just doesn't strike me as conveying much of an atmosphere. That and I don't like many of the riffs.

[Sleeper]

I wasn't very impressed with Ghost Reveries the first time i heard it.

Edit:

I love that little tribal bongo part in the song 'Wreath'.

[Darkness]

For some reason SL just doesn't strike me as conveying much of an atmosphere. That and I don't like many of the riffs.
Really? IMO Still Life has probably the strongest atmosphere Opeth has created... oh well. Do you at least like the killer acoustic parts?

[the2stranger]

I wasn't very impressed with Ghost Reveries the first time i heard it.

Edit:

I love that little tribal bongo part in the song 'Wreath'.
The etnic percussion rules!

[BurningSky]

Changing the Godhead's Lament lyrics reminds me of another thing I love about Opeth...

"I hear the baying of the hounds in the distance
I hear them devouring THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!!"

I actually went to Taco Bell a few months ago and asked them for "THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!!" in my best death metal growl...

The look on the guy's face was priceless...

[the2stranger]

Changing the Godhead's Lament lyrics reminds me of another thing I love about Opeth...

"I hear the baying of the hounds in the distance
I hear them devouring THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!!"

I actually went to Taco Bell a few months ago and asked them for "THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!!" in my best death metal growl...

The look on the guy's face was priceless...
:lol:
Awesome.
Now I;m hungry though.

[Darkness]

You meen the Baying of the Hounds?

Godheads Lament would be "what would they care if I was gay? noone would know, hoooomoooo!".

[Stormrider]

He never said he was talking about Godheads Lament. He just said us talking about changing the lyrics to it the song, made him think about something else.

You're a silly one, Darkness.

[Captain Quentin]

I love The Moor and Godhead's Lament, esp, the clean part in Godhead's.
SO great.

SL is my favourite album too, and that acoustic part in Godheads Lament that comes in at about 4:50.........ive overlistened that bit :p


For some reason SL just doesn't strike me as
conveying much of an atmosphere. That and I don't like many of the riffs.

and ShadowsFallen, what do you mean you don't like the riffs!! they are some of the best riffs ive ever heard! best riff on the album imo = chorus of moonlapse :chug:

[Jude]

"what would they care if I was gay? noone would know, hoooomoooo!".
Classic. Some dude made an avatar of that over at the Opeth forum a while ago with a background of a pic of Mike looking pretty fruity.

[pate]

Classic. Some dude made an avatar of that over at the Opeth forum a while ago with a background of a pic of Mike looking pretty fruity.

Photoshopeth FTW

[Shred Danson]

Photoshopeth

lawl

Changing the Godhead's Lament lyrics reminds me of another thing I love about Opeth...

"I hear the baying of the hounds in the distance
I hear them devouring THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!!"

I actually went to Taco Bell a few months ago and asked them for "THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!!" in my best death metal growl...

The look on the guy's face was priceless...

:lol: That's just damn awesome.

SL discusiion: Sorry to upset everyone but I haven't heard Still Life yet. :upset: I fail at the fanboy business.

[Flynn]

Changing the Godhead's Lament lyrics reminds me of another thing I love about Opeth...

"I hear the baying of the hounds in the distance
I hear them devouring THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!!"

I actually went to Taco Bell a few months ago and asked them for "THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!!" in my best death metal growl...

The look on the guy's face was priceless...




:lol: :lol: Now that's funny.

[Det_Nosnip]

Call me a mad man but I really enjoy Moonlapse Vertigo out of Still Life.

Maybe I'm slightly tired of the rest of the songs.

I think it's a great song. Mikael's clean singing during the verses = saweet.

[Det_Nosnip]

I can't guarantee having time to learn and record it, but if you could send me the music when you're done with it I'll give it a try.

Cool! What format do you prefer?

[TojesDolan]

I'm not outgoing enough to do things like scream at people with my best deat metal growl.

Damn, I don't even sing in public because I don't feel like singing in-tune while everyone else are trying their best to sing, yet they **** up vastly.

Man I wish I didn't like singing so much.

On a related note, I don't know if I should suffer a whole month by not going out or enjoying simple pleasures in life like, eating a burger when I feel like it or buy My Arms, Your Hearse.

tricky tricky decisions.

[Luc214]

Changing the Godhead's Lament lyrics reminds me of another thing I love about Opeth...

"I hear the baying of the hounds in the distance
I hear them devouring THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!!"

I actually went to Taco Bell a few months ago and asked them for "THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!!" in my best death metal growl...

The look on the guy's face was priceless...

:lol:

I'm not outgoing enough to do things like scream at people with my best deat metal growl.

Damn, I don't even sing in public because I don't feel like singing in-tune while everyone else are trying their best to sing, yet they **** up vastly.

Man I wish I didn't like singing so much.

On a related note, I don't know if I should suffer a whole month by not going out or enjoying simple pleasures in life like, eating a burger when I feel like it or buy My Arms, Your Hearse.

tricky tricky decisions.

I like singing Death Whispered A Lullaby

[Tyr]

I'm not outgoing enough to do things like scream at people with my best deat metal growl.

Damn, I don't even sing in public because I don't feel like singing in-tune while everyone else are trying their best to sing, yet they **** up vastly.

Man I wish I didn't like singing so much.

On a related note, I don't know if I should suffer a whole month by not going out or enjoying simple pleasures in life like, eating a burger when I feel like it or buy My Arms, Your Hearse.

tricky tricky decisions.
Tricky indeed. If you have a downloaded version of MAYH, I'd say save the money, but if you don't have it...
MAYH is a fantastic album. Maybe you could save some money this month and buy it next month?

[TojesDolan]

Yeah that's my plan, at least until my mother sends me the money to buy clothing and assorted gear to wear. Which I also desperately need too, haha.

Geez I should get an e-job or something.

[Tyr]

Money's always an issue when you're a student, I find.

[TojesDolan]

Ugh, I know.

Anyway, I didn't know Mike had a myspace. It's an interesting place, though. haha.

[the2stranger]

Yes, money is tricky.
Always need to find a balance between some good food, buying cd's, going out, bying clothing and saving.

[Tyr]

I never manage to save any money :-/

[Avalanche.]

I'm thinking about going out and buying Still Life tonight. I love Blackwater Park, how does it stack up to that?

[Tyr]

I like SL better than BWP, but they're both amazing. SL is a little more consistent. The songs are more or less equally good on SL, while some songs on BWP are a little less good and some are fantastic.

[TojesDolan]

SL is more consistent than BWP.

But BWP has more single good moments, so good times.

[Kronos]

Agreed. On the whole SL is about my favourite, but the highs on BWP are a bit higher, if you see what I mean

[pate]

That is my feeling exactly, except the highs of BWP are enough to make it my favorite Opeth album...with SL in second.

[Kronos]

To be honest, I alternate those as faves. With Damnation/Deliverance in3rd and MAYH last. By a long chalk.

[pate]

Wow. MAYH is my 3rd place album.

[JamJar]

MAYH is my third as well. It has two of my favourite Opeth songs ever: Demon Of The Fall and When.

[Shadows]

I think Blackwater Park is very consistent. My only complaint is that Bleak and Blackwater Park don't really get interesting until several minutes into the songs.

[pate]

At least you don't hate Dirge for November. Everybody bags on it, and I love it.

[Shadows]

No way, I love that song.

[JamJar]

Everone should love it but so many people don't and it really baffles me.

[pate]

My feelings exactly.

[TojesDolan]

I like Dirge.

And of course, BWP drags a lot. In the beginning.

WTF MAYH is in my first place screw you guys. :angry:

[the2stranger]

The lyrics on Dirge are amazing.

[pate]

And of course, BWP drags a lot. In the beginning.


In the beginning????

The drag part of it is toward the end.

[Stoo]

I really like Dirge For Novemeber and The Funeral Portrait, great songs.

Bleak and Blackwater Park taking several minutes to start??

The Drapery Falls?????

[Shattered_Future]

That is my feeling exactly, except the highs of BWP are enough to make it my favorite Opeth album...with SL in second.

Exactly.

/dislikes MAYH

Bleak takes a long time to start? Every single second of that song is pure awesomeness.

BWP, on the other hand...

[Whale and Wasp]

i like bleak except for steven wilson's vocals

[Darkness]

So I finally got a bought copy of Morningrise. I now own all Opeth releases, as well as various merch and signed merch. :D

[Txus]

i like bleak except for steven wilson's vocals
:eek: Blasphemy!

[Darkness]

:eek: Blasphemy!
I actually agree fully with him. His vocals fail in that song.

[Txus]

They don't.

/Is a PT/SW fanboy....

[Whale and Wasp]

I actually agree fully with her. His vocals fail in that song.
fix'd


and yeah steven wilson is good but his vocals plain dont fit at all on that song

[Darkness]

They don't.

/Is a PT/SW fanboy....
He's normally not bad (but never great), but in that song he sounds so whiny. I wish Mikael would have done it alone.

fix'd


and yeah steven wilson is good but his vocals plain dont fit at all on that song
Ah, I apologize.

[Whale and Wasp]

yeah it doesnt go at all with the rest of the song

[Txus]

Yeah, maybe you're both right. I love the whole song anyway. I've been listening to Damnation a lot again, Windowpane is such a fun song to play.

[Kage]

Steven Wilson's vocals are the best damn part of that song.

[bucket]

That song, and more specifically, that part helped me digest Opeth. Those vocals are the only reason I ever went back to the song repeatedly.



I just found some rather disturbing talk on Opeth's lastfm shoutbox. http://www.last.fm/music/Opeth

"Most Thrash Metal bands strive for godly musicianship and those that attain it, gain the praise that Opeth sadly attains yet does not deserve."

Heh.

[pate]

SW's vocals are awesome in Bleak.

That last.fm poster fails.

[Insipid2000]

I just got Morningrise and am going to listen to it tonight, Have you guys in here bought or DL your Opeth albums?

[Det_Nosnip]

Money's always an issue when you're a student, I find.
Uh...no. Money's ALWAYS an issue. :upset:


I actually agree fully with him. His vocals fail in that song. Well, yeah...but we've already concluded that your opinions don't count. :D After all, you ARE the one who doesn't like Godhead's Lament, either...crazy bastard.

[Concubine]

Just got Damnation, Blackwater Park, and Deliverence for AU$39 :eek:... I only need to buy Orchid and My Arms, Your Hearse to complete my Opeth discography :cool:

[Alma]

Best metal band. Period.

[Kronos]

I just got Morningrise and am going to listen to it tonight, Have you guys in here bought or DL your Opeth albums?

Bought!

Someone being hammered by Mikael for DL ing his albums :smash:

[Captain Quentin]

is it just me or is MAYH really bad production? don't flame me if im wrong, it could be my Mp3's (downloaded) :)

EDIT: what part of bleak does steven wilson do vocals? is it the part where it goes Devious movements in your eyes, moved me from relief.....--> onwards?

[Kronos]

is it just me or is MAYH really bad production? don't flame me if im wrong, it could be my Mp3's (downloaded) :)

EDIT: what part of bleak does steven wilson do vocals? is it the part where it goes Devious movements in your eyes, moved me from relief.....--> onwards?
Yup, that bit.


Which I really like. There's nowt wrong with those vocals - they make the song for me.

[TojesDolan]

They are stupidly high for a singer alone to do them, at least live.

You need too much of a range to sing all that as it is on the album.

I have problems with the higher parts. Steve's, for instance.

[pate]

I just got Morningrise and am going to listen to it tonight, Have you guys in here bought or DL your Opeth albums?

I own BWP, Deliverence, Damnation, SL, and Morningrise. The rest are downloaded, for now.

[Toaster]

I just got Morningrise and am going to listen to it tonight, Have you guys in here bought or DL your Opeth albums?

I own all. :cool:

[TojesDolan]

I own Lamentations, Ghost Reveries and Deliverance.

Next one is My arms, your hearse.