Opeth

[Nostalgia]

Yeah, I think that or Hours Of Wealth is the best song on the album.

[Moses]

Yeah, I think that or Hours Of Wealth is the best song on the album.
Got Deliverance?

[Nostalgia]

Yeah, I received it but I don't know how to transfer it to itunes. I downloaded it, but it's not in my documents.

Do you have AIM? If so, can I just get the file off of you?

[Moses]

Sorry, I can't trade files on AIM. My connection ****s up every 5 minutes or so.

So you just can't find the file?

/gotsta go to the YMCA.

[Nostalgia]

Hold on; let me go let me go back to my files and see if I can't find track it down and convert it to itunes.

Thanks though.

[Shuk]

Is it just me or is the song "Deliverance" (obviously on the Deliverance album) sorta "meh" compared to other Opeth stuff? I mean, its still good, but it gets more praise than it deserves.

[i am the robots]

I think that song is absolutely fantastic.

[guitrguy]

Is it just me or is the song "Deliverance" (obviously on the Deliverance album) sorta "meh" compared to other Opeth stuff? I mean, its still good, but it gets more praise than it deserves.
Are you kidding me? The time is what makes is so great, especially the outro.

[Moses]

Is it just me or is the song "Deliverance" (obviously on the Deliverance album) sorta "meh" compared to other Opeth stuff? I mean, its still good, but it gets more praise than it deserves.
No, it's really as good as people say it is.:thumb:

[eug008]

Is it just me or is the song "Deliverance" (obviously on the Deliverance album) sorta "meh" compared to other Opeth stuff? I mean, its still good, but it gets more praise than it deserves.

No way, probably my favourite song off that CD

[guitrguy]

I honestly prefer Master's Apprentice

[Nostalgia]

I think that song is absolutely fantastic.
Pfft, you're not aloud to listen to Opeth; they're metal! :p

[TojesDolan]

On the good days, I enjoy a good share of Deliverance.

On the bad days, I prefer everything else.

Pfft, you're not aloud to listen to Opeth; they're metal!

Oh, quiet you. :p

[Captain Quentin]

has anyone got their DVD Lamentations?

EDIT: /realizes this is probably a stupid question

[TojesDolan]

It's been out for a while but yes. Go get it it's awesome.

[Carrionshine]

Beneath The Mire kicks *** too, gotta love that song. :)

"Lost love, of the heart
In a holocaust, scene memory"
*solo*

Good stuff.

[Captain Quentin]

It's been out for a while but yes. Go get it it's awesome.

yeah i thought it was going to be a stupid question :p
i'll go and get it when i get the money :thumb:

[eug008]

has anyone got their DVD Lamentations?

EDIT: /realizes this is probably a stupid question

I want it but they seem to of stopped selling it at JB HIFI

[The Sandman]

Everyone should go out and buy Lamentations. It's an absolutely brilliant performance.

I'm pretty sure they sell it at JB Hi-Fi...maybe yours just sucks :p

It makes me laugh how the crowd is yelling for Demon of the Fall the entire time but they don't play it.

A Fair Judgement is like a billion times better when they play it live. Rather epic way to finish the show.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

They did play Demon Of The Fall,but couldnt film it because of restrictions with their old label or something.

[eug008]

Everyone should go out and buy Lamentations. It's an absolutely brilliant performance.

I'm pretty sure they sell it at JB Hi-Fi...maybe yours just sucks :p

It makes me laugh how the crowd is yelling for Demon of the Fall the entire time but they don't play it.

A Fair Judgement is like a billion times better when they play it live. Rather epic way to finish the show.

It's funny cause I remember seeing it there once then a few days later I asked whether they had it and they said they didn't :confused:

[TojesDolan]

yeah i thought it was going to be a stupid question :p
i'll go and get it when i get the money :thumb:
You can see my review of the DVD on Sputnik if you feel like knowing what it's like. :)

[The Sandman]

They did play Demon Of The Fall,but couldnt film it because of restrictions with their old label or something.
:upset:

That is so lame. I officially hate the old label.

[Killtacular]

The best dvd ever would be like Lamentations but with songs pulled from their entire discography, like a live show would be normally, without all the Damnation whore-age. But, alas, Lopez is gone, and with him is the potential best dvd ever.

:(

[suspect]

Bye bye guys, I'm off to Tuska metal festival to see Opeth, Wintersun, Kalmah, Celtic Frost, Norther ++.

[ghettoeddo]

woooow.

wait, im a little behind on this but...
opeth is confirmed for the G2 bill right?

[rhcp pman]

Bye bye guys, I'm off to Tuska metal festival to see Opeth, Wintersun, Kalmah, Celtic Frost, Norther ++.
Dammit - this is why I hate living in NZ. I would never have the chance to go to an awesome festival like that - that's a killer lineup!

[eug008]

woooow.

wait, im a little behind on this but...
opeth is confirmed for the G2 bill right?

Well I thought so too? not confirmed but yeh I thought so cause of the gap between their tour dates???

Killer lineup with Wintersun and Opeth BTW

[Carrionshine]

The best dvd ever would be like Lamentations but with songs pulled from their entire discography, like a live show would be normally, without all the Damnation whore-age. But, alas, Lopez is gone, and with him is the potential best dvd ever.

:(

Or better yet, a live DVD for each album.

[TojesDolan]

Still life + My arms, your hearse

Orchid + Morningrise
(on separate DVD's)

=

Awesome

[Slapping Penguin]

God Wreath is good.

[jpshortstuff]

ordered Lamentations yesterday :)
can't wait for that, reasonable price too i think.

this threads been a bit slow lately.

[Whale and Wasp]

good for you :) i want to see lamentations so badly but i dont kno where to get it :(

[Spoonful of Shame]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=Live+Lamentations+DVD&search_type=search_videos&search=Search

You just found it. \m/-_-\m/

[jpshortstuff]

i got it for £6.74 off Amazon.

hasnt arrived yet :upset:

[UpperDecker]

God Wreath is good.


Yes but Deliverance and Master's Apprentices are much better imo. Wreath still kicks *** though.

[Tyr]

So, I saw Opeth this weekend at the Metaltown festival in Gothenburg. Really sweet, a bit short, though. One hour isn't very long and they only had time to play five songs. But I got to see Tool as well, so I'm happy anyway.

[jpshortstuff]

well, my verdict is Lamentations = Damn good. the heavier set was incredible and i liked the damnation set more than i thought i would. the documentry was a bit long.

[Tyr]

well, my verdict is Lamentations = Damn good. the heavier set was incredible and i liked the damnation set more than i thought i would. the d0cumentry was a bit long.
Yeah, Lamentations's really good, even though they just play songs from Deliverance and BWP. I like the documentary, though.

[jpshortstuff]

i love the way they show us numerous clips of recording the drums and then Akerfeldt says: "watching the drums being recorded is really boring"

[Tyr]

That part is a classic.

[Shadows]

Does anyone else here effing love Opeth?

[Darkness]

Nah.

I have the most posts in the thread, though.

[Shadows]

I'll be honest. Anyone who doesn't love Opeth should go frickin' boink themselves.

[Darkness]

Wow, that's a lot of people.

[Shadows]

Finally, the world will be purged of the unworthy.

[Darkness]

Starting with the elitist scum that think Opeth aren't cool because they have more then 4 fans.

[Shadows]

Mos def. God forbid talented bands should get a little recognition for what they do.

[Slapping Penguin]

Yeah I hate those pricks. I have no problem if someone does not enjoy their music understandable but god I hate those who go, "opeth is so gay go listen to NokurngjaurAGOrthahal" Then you go to those people umm, do you know anything else insanly underground. "No I only know that band that no one knows so I can sound Kvlt and troo and hate opeth" Why can't people just say "its not my cup of tea but they are not bad" or "you go enjoy them ;) "

[i am the robots]

Opeth iz liek borring n repetive

[Darkness]

Well, if were talking about GR, the first isn't far off... :lol: :p

[i am the robots]

i actually agree

[Spoonful of Shame]

Opeth iz liek borring n repetive

If I had a gun I would shoot you.

Long live Opeth \m/-_-\m/

[i am the robots]

sar·casm
n.
A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.

[Spoonful of Shame]

You hear sarcasm in someone’s voice and then it becomes clear what they are implying. Kind of hard for me to determine sarcasm from typed speech don't you think? :smoke:

[Darkness]

Are you kidding? The internet "slang" styled text was proof enough of his sarcasm

[C.O.A.]

so. does anybody like bloodbath.

i can't wait for their dvd to come out.

[Darkness]

Yeah, Bloodbath has some great songs. The Breeding Death EP especially.

[The Cynic]

Would Anybody happen to have that number thingy that It asks for when you get Guitar Pro? I'd apprecciate it very much.

[i am the robots]

I wish Akerfeldt was still in Bloodbath... his gutteral stuff on RTC is so much lower than anything he did on Opeth, unfortunately that album is crap compared to NMF, and I just feel nostalgic listening to it and trying to figure out how much better Akerfeldt could've made it.

[C.O.A.]

yeah i liked mikes voice better. did you guys know bloodbath is looking for a new singer?

[i am the robots]

Yeah... a bunch of people said I should try out, I laughed at their faces.

I highly, highly, doubt that Bloodbath would like a singer who sounds like the Black Dahlia Murder's singer.

I just find it funny how dense people are when it comes to screaming... it's like... he doesn't suck at it... he must be AMAZING!!!!

[rhcp pman]

I'm a fan of Bloodbath and I dig that oldschool death metal sound. Akerfeldt's vocals were good on the first album and Nystrom's guitarwork is nice - I wish Nystrom would let loose more often in Katatonia.

[i am the robots]

I don't... it wouldn't fit in a band like Katatonia.

[rhcp pman]

I don't... it wouldn't fit in a band like Katatonia.
I already love Katatonia's guitarwork, but I think he should maybe write an instrumental where he lets loose a bit more.

Doom might be depressing, slow and lumbering, but if you've got the right person, a fast guitar solo can fit in fairly well.

[jpshortstuff]

/is wearing Deliverence shirt

btw got my Deliverence shirt yesterday :cool:

a bit late but yes, yes i do effing love Opeth.

[Det_Nosnip]

I already love Katatonia's guitarwork, but I think he should maybe write an instrumental where he lets loose a bit more.

Doom might be depressing, slow and lumbering, but if you've got the right person, a fast guitar solo can fit in fairly well.

They aren't a doom metal band anymore.

[Shadows]

Ugh, I hate the vocalist from Black Dahlia Murder.

[Toaster]

They should get the guy from Lord Gore. :p

[i am the robots]

Ugh, I hate the vocalist from Black Dahlia Murder.

You'd probably hate my vocals too then :(.

[Shadows]

Probably not. I just think his attempts at growling are laughable.

[i am the robots]

His growling is freaking awesome, what are you talking about?

[Darkness]

Maybe he doesn't think it's awesome. I know I don't.

[Shadows]

His high scream I don't mind, but his growl sounds like those cheesy sounds that close-minded people make when they try to make fun of death metal. I can't believe he actually records himself doing it.

[i am the robots]

Listen to the growling on Unhallowed, his vocals on Miasma just aren't that good.

[Shadows]

Unhallowed is the only BDM album I have.

[i am the robots]

I think the growling is pretty good on that album.

[AA-12]

I have to agree with Matt here, BDM's vocalist slays.

Why i'm discussion this in an Opeth thread I do not know.

/exits

[Shadows]

Let's talk about Opeth now.

I ****ing love Opeth.

[i am the robots]

Opeth is epic.

[Txus]

Opeth sucks =0

NP: Opeth - Advent :p

[Stormrider]

Advent is awsome.

[Insipid2000]

Opeth have a ****ing killer catalogue.

[Shadows]

It's like sex in the form of music.

[Stormrider]

I havn't been listening to much Opeth lately though...

NP Thyrfing - Digerdoden

[Shadows]

Neither have I, but I suddenly had a hankering for some Morningrise.

Hey Jammie, do you have an instant messenger or something?

[Stormrider]

Hmm, maybe I'll put some on in my stereo for the night. Still Life or Morningrise..hmmm

NP Thyrfing - The Voyager

[rhcp pman]

They aren't a doom metal band anymore.
I know. That's why it's more likely to work.

[penelope weird hands]

B-b-bump.

Wreath is the best song off of Deliverance.
Followed very closely by Master's Apprentices.

..Who's still in denial!? :p

Anyway, I must say this album is moving up in the ranks of the l word.




list!

[Det_Nosnip]

I'd reverse that order, personally.

[Tyr]

I'd reverse that order, personally.
I agree, Master's Apprentices is the best song off of Delivrance.

[Mr. Ron]

I've come to the conclusion that Morningrise is their best. And no, thats not just because most fanboys say it is, it's because the album is simply their best work IMO. Orchid is a so close to being their best also, it is so hard to decide between them.

[Jude]

B-b-bump.

Wreath is the best song off of Deliverance.
Followed very closely by Master's Apprentices.

Yo I am.

BTPISIO ~= Deliverance > AFJ > MA > Wreath

Edit: Mr. Ron: Most fanboys think MR is the best? I always thought Still Life was massively favored as the best by the fans...

[Shadows]

Still Life is my least favorite album of theirs. I guess I just like to go against the trends.

NP: Windowpane

[Mr. Ron]

Yo I am.

BTPISIO ~= Deliverance > AFJ > MA > Wreath

Edit: Mr. Ron: Most fanboys think MR is the best? I always thought Still Life was massively favored as the best by the fans...
I've always heard that it was MR?

[Jude]

I've always heard that it was MR?
I dunno. Still Life wins in every poll I've ever seen. I think SL is my first favorite, followed by either MR or BWP, depending on my mood.

[Mr. Ron]

I dunno. Still Life wins in every poll I've ever seen. I think SL is my first favorite, followed by either MR or BWP, depending on my mood.
Still life is the only Opeth album I do not own. :-(

[Shadius]

I've come to the conclusion that Morningrise is their best. And no, thats not just because most fanboys say it is, it's because the album is simply their best work IMO. Orchid is a so close to being their best also, it is so hard to decide between them.

Neh.

The songwriting isn't that good, IMO. Cool riffs though.

The songs from every other album grab my attention more than the ones on the first two albums, simply because the songwriting become more sophisticated.

[penelope weird hands]

Morningrise is shocking.

Shockingly good but mostly shockingly shjtimo.. in comparison with My Arms, Your Hearse, Still Life and Blackwater Park and in amongst my favourites of albums/songs.

What do ^you think is good about it?

I fail to see anything outstanding on that album. ;(

EDIT: To Mr. Ron

[Tyr]

Yeah, my favourite is SL followed by MAYH and BWP. MR and Orchid are my least favourite Opeth albums.

[Mr. Ron]

Morningrise is shocking.

Shockingly good but mostly shockingly shjtimo.. in comparison with My Arms, Your Hearse, Still Life and Blackwater Park and in amongst my favourites of albums/songs.

What do ^you think is good about it?

I fail to see anything outstanding on that album. ;(

EDIT: To Mr. Ron
Nah, I wouldn't go that far. The songs are amazing, especially the many awesome riffs on that album.

[Jude]

Nah, I wouldn't go that far. The songs are amazing, especially the many awesome riffs on that album.
I'd say the riffs are mostly awesome, but the songs as a whole are just kind of meh.

[Shadows]

Orchid is amazing but I can see where they started to slip a bit with Morningrise.

Just got back from buying new CDs! I now own my third official Opeth album. BWP ftw. :cool:

[Stormrider]

I only legally own 2. And illegaly own 0 :(

[Txus]

Pfft, I have them all :D

[Tyr]

Me too, legally, that is.

[Txus]

Yeah, me too.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Opeth is an awesome fuking band, very creative and heavy music. I just burned deliverance, black water park, and ghost reveries from my friend. I like baying of the hounds, master apprentices, the leper affinity, and grand conjuration the most.

[BurningSky]

So last night, and couple of friends and I were driving back home after a nice evening in Pennsylvania, when we decided to stop at Taco Bell to soothe our hunger pains. Prior to this, we had been listening to Baying of the Hounds. So, when the nice man in the window handed me our food, I just had to respond with, "These are THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!" in my deepest death metal growl. Needless to say, the taco man was quite confuzzled...

[Carrionshine]

"I HEAR THE BAYING OF THE HOUNDS, IN THE DISTANCE
I HEAR THEM DEVOURING, THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!!"

ROFL

"FADING RESISTANCE, DRAINING THE WEINERS
PENATRATING ANALLY"

"GAY AND BEHIND ME, I HEAR THE HOUNDS
COCKS CHASING TO FIND, ME TO BONE"

"A TRAIL OF DICK JIZZ, LEADING TO ME
IF I LICK COCKHEAD, THEN YOU WILL SKEET"

Ok I'm done.

[Txus]

^^ :lol:

[Jude]

Orchid is amazing but I can see where they started to slip a bit with Morningrise.


WTF? Morningrise is like a much better version of Orchid.

I own SL, BWP and Damnation...downloaded the rest. I'll get them all eventually. I'm waiting for the GR special edition, for one thing.

"These are THE BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!!" in my deepest death metal growl."
:lol: :lol: :lol: Classic!

[Shadius]

I only legally own 2. And illegaly own 0 :(

I've only bought three of their albums, shall we say.

I own Ghost Reveries, Still life and Deliverance. I have the music from all their albums on my computer though. If they came down in price somewhere I'd pick them all up. I've never seen Damnation or Deliverance in stores in the UK, my girlfriend got Deliverance from Poland for me when she was there, lol.

[Shadows]

WTF? Morningrise is like a much better version of Orchid.
What makes you lie like that?

[Shattered_Future]

I own one, yet have all. :p

I'll buy them eventually...figure 2 30 dollar tshirts and a concert ticket should cover the cost of most of the albums.

[Stoo]

I legally own all... :cool:

[Jude]

What makes you lie like that?
Dude, it's the truth. MR is either equal or better in all areas.

Songwriting = equally bad on both
Riffs/solos = pretty much all the ones on MR are better
Acoustic sections = the ones on MR are vastly better
Clean vocal melodies = "
Production = equally bad on both

Basically that's it.

[Shadows]

Dude, it's the truth. MR is either equal or better in all areas.

Songwriting = equally bad on both
Riffs/solos = pretty much all the ones on MR are better
Acoustic sections = the ones on MR are vastly better
Clean vocal melodies = "
Production = equally bad on both

Basically that's it.
I disagree with everything there except the production.

[Stoo]

Personally I enjoy Orchidrise more...

[Crysiss]

Personally I enjoy Orchidrise more...

Morchidrise Noob:rolleyes:

[Stoo]

Oh.

Shup.

[Stoo]

Only...*Thinks*...

5 months till Opeth!! ... for the 3rd time. :cool:

Unholy Alliance (Slayer, In Flames, CoB, Lamb of God) then Opeth within one week, omg!

[Crysiss]

I didnt know that The Unholy Alliance was still going in 5 months. Unless you meant weeks?

[Shattered_Future]

Yea, it's probably weeks, no? :p

I wanna get tix to G2 to go see Opeth again, along with Arch Enemy. Gotta see if my friend can take me.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

wow, i wish i lived in europe to see UHA with in flames in the lineup.

[Crysiss]

Yea, it's probably weeks, no? :p

I wanna get tix to G2 to go see Opeth again, along with Arch Enemy. Gotta see if my friend can take me.

Not old enough?

[Shadows]

I think he just needs a ride.

[Crysiss]

Oh... Well, Im gonna have to check the g2 dates and see if im lucky.

[Shattered_Future]

It's ride problems. Doubt my dad wants to take me...he's already taking me and my bro to Blind Guardian. Plus, his schedule is mad spotty...

[Stormrider]

Getting your bro into Blind Guardian, eh ? Cool. \m/

[Det_Nosnip]

BG are touring? ****, I'll have to look into that.

[Stormrider]

Yup, the north american tour dates are up on their site ;)

NP Symphony X - Inferno

[Thor]

Since when did this become the Blind Guardian thread?

[Stoo]

Yea, it's probably weeks, no? :p

I wanna get tix to G2 to go see Opeth again, along with Arch Enemy. Gotta see if my friend can take me.
No Months.

The European one with In Flames instead of Mastadon.

[Jude]

Since when did this become the Blind Guardian thread?
Since when did your avatar become extremely awesome?

[Shattered_Future]

Getting your bro into Blind Guardian, eh ? Cool. \m/

He was the one who bought TFTTW, which I still haven't listened to yet...

Thor, I must say, your avatar is really awesome.

[Stormrider]

Steal his copy ! :p

okay, no more BG talk before a bunch of you get angry :-P

[Shattered_Future]

I have stolen it, just haven't listened to it yet.

I haven't listened to Opeth in a LOOONG time. I should do that soon...

[Shadows]

I bought Blackwater Park yesterday and haven't listened to it yet. =\ I should fix that later today.

[Shattered_Future]

Best album by them IMO.

[Jude]

Best album by them IMO.
Second or third best. It's still amazing though.

[Shattered_Future]

I think it's the best. Everything is great. The riffing is great, production is probably the best out of any of their albums, and Akefeldt's voice is at its absolute best on there.

And I think hearing The Drapery Falls live really made me like that song better.

[Darkness]

I think Akerfeldt is at his beset on Still Life overall. The clean vocals have more feel on that album IMO, and the growls are the most clear.

[Luc214]

I think Ghost Reveries is their best release yet.

Plus it has one of my favorite Opeth songs: The Grand Conjuration

I'm only comparing it to Damnation and Blackwater Park though.

[Det_Nosnip]

Right now, I'd have to say I like My Arms, Your Hearse best. That album grows on me every time I listen to it, which is scary considering the fact that I already love it.

[Tyr]

MAYH is awesome! That was the first Opeth album I bought, so it obviously has a special place in my heart.
Ah, the memories...

[Jude]

I think it's the best. Everything is great. The riffing is great, production is probably the best out of any of their albums, and Akefeldt's voice is at its absolute best on there.

And I think hearing The Drapery Falls live really made me like that song better.
BWP is close to being the greatest, but IMO it takes a dip in quality between the end of The Drapery Falls (the death metal part basically) and most of The Funeral Portrait...whereas Still Life, which is the other main competitor for the top, is solid 100% of the way through.

BWP is helped massively by Steven Wilson's producing skill, though. It just sounds so much more refined and intricate.

[Shadows]

Still Life bores the crap out of me.

[UpperDecker]

When I'm listening to Still Life i tend to get bored after Godhead's Lament. Its probably just cause i don't feel like listening to the whole album.

[Stormrider]

Still Life is good. I gotta be in the mood though.

[Jude]

Still Life bores the crap out of me.
wtfbrigade

[Clunge]

Poke.

Righto, I'm really really really into Opeth and Agalloch at the mo and I want to dig up as many bands that are doing similar stuff to these two. Any bands that match these kinda criteria:

- Mixture of clean/growled vocals
- Proggy bits
- Acoustic sections
- Riffage

Anything going is good :).

[Tyr]

You could always try Woods of Ypres, but they don't have growls. Instead they have harsh, black metal-ish vocals. That's the only similar band that I can think of at the moment.

[Clunge]

Righto, I'm on the case :cool:.

[Shattered_Future]

NOVEMBERS DOOM!

Why do people not like them that much? I think they're really good.

The Funeral Portrait I could care less about, but Dirge For November has some really awesome parts in it.

[Darkness]

Novembers Dooms a decent band. Just not on the level of Opeth. Dark Feilds for Brilliance is a really sweet song though.

[Shattered_Future]

Novembers Dooms a decent band. Just not on the level of Opeth. Dark Feilds for Brilliance is a really sweet song though.

I'm well aware they're not as good as Opeth, but people give them a lot of **** for no good reason. I think they're one of the best American bands around today.

[Darkness]

People give them ****? I didn't know that. I didn't think they got enough attention to get ****.

[Det_Nosnip]

There's always Orphaned Land. They're kinda like a Middle-Eastern Opeth. :D

[Txus]

To the guy asking for recommendations, try these bands:
Novembre
Soundsleep
Sculptured
Drudkh (They have nothing to do with Opeth but they're really similar to Agalloch)
Empyrium

[Whale and Wasp]

Poke.

Righto, I'm really really really into Opeth and Agalloch at the mo and I want to dig up as many bands that are doing similar stuff to these two. Any bands that match these kinda criteria:

- Mixture of clean/growled vocals
- Proggy bits
- Acoustic sections
- Riffage

Anything going is good :).
not metal, but you may be interested in checking out Camel; theyre a prog band from the 70s that mikael cites as one of his big influences

[pate]

not metal, but you may be interested in checking out Camel; theyre a prog band from the 70s that mikael cites as one of his big influences

Camel \m/

They may just be the most metal non-metal band.

[BurningSky]

Check out Pelican. They are filed under post-rock, but they switch between really doomy chugging riff and some sweet dissonant acoustic parts. They are all instrumental, though. Still, really great band for anybody with a decent attention span...

The Fire In Our Throats Will Beckon the Thaw is a brilliant piece of music...

[Shattered_Future]

People give them ****? I didn't know that. I didn't think they got enough attention to get ****.

Nah, I've seen some people around give them **** before. I don't even remember how I found out about them...think it was on a search for female fronted bands. :p

[Shadows]

I saw the Novembres Doom video for Pale Haunt Departure and I thought it was horrible. Not even close to Opeth's level.

[Darkness]

Nah, I've seen some people around give them **** before. I don't even remember how I found out about them...think it was on a search for female fronted bands. :p
That kinda went the other way then. :lol:

I saw the Novembres Doom video for Pale Haunt Departure and I thought it was horrible. Not even close to Opeth's level.
The Pale Haunt is a decent song, but thats not the song I'd use to say the band has some similarities to Opeth. In that song theres no clean sections with there acoustic guitars (kinda like Opeth) and there clean vocals (not as good as Opeth, but still decent).

[Killtacular]

Still Life bores the crap out of me.
Pffffffffffft.

Go listen to your Ghost Reveries, nubcake.


On a side note, My Arms, Your Hearse finally clicked with me. It's in my top 3 now.

[Det_Nosnip]

Yeah, it does that.

[Nostalgia]

My Arms, Your Hearse was just okay for me. Nothing special, really. Orchid and Deliverance still remain my favorite albums.

[Killtacular]

That's how it was for me for about a year, now. After a while I finally 'got it.'

It's a fantastic album.

[Stormrider]

MAYH and Orchid are the Opeth albums I want the most right now :-/

[Panvium]

My Arms, Your Hearse is definitaly my favorite, with Blackwater Park coming in second.

[Shadius]

Pffffffffffft.

Go listen to your Ghost Reveries, nubcake.


On a side note, My Arms, Your Hearse finally clicked with me. It's in my top 3 now.

Yeah, it did that with me too. I used to consider MR a lot higher and MAYH was much lower down. They sort of swapped positions over time.

SL>GR>MAYH>D2>BP>D2>MR>O

[Shadows]

MAYH was the first Opeth album that clicked with me.

[AA-12]

That album clicked with me, and clicked hard.

[Whale and Wasp]

the first one that clicked with me was deliverance, then still life \m/ awesome albums

[Blackest_Eyes]

My dad introduced me to Opeth. The first album that I heard was Damnation. I fell in love with that cd. Then my dad showed me Deliverance, and I couldn't even believe it was the same band, but nonetheless, I was blown away. I currently own all 8 albums and I think they're all classics, but I would have to say Blackwater Park and Morningrise are my favorites.

[pate]

1. BWP
2. SL
3. Damnation
4. MAYH
----------------- big dropoff
5. MR
6. Deliverence
-------------------- bigger dropoff
7. Ghost Reveries
8. Orchid

I still love Orchid though, I just love the others more.

[Darkness]

My dad introduced me to Opeth. The first album that I heard was Damnation. I fell in love with that cd. Then my dad showed me Deliverance, and I couldn't even believe it was the same band, but nonetheless, I was blown away. I currently own all 8 albums and I think they're all classics, but I would have to say Blackwater Park and Morningrise are my favorites.
That is one awesome dad. My dad listens to really old country... :upset:

[bluewizard]

I bought the Ghost Reveries CD last week and was constantly playing Ghost of Perdition, The Grand Conjuration, and The Baying of The Hounds. The singing is decent but I don't think I'll ever be buying the Damnation CD because I like Opeth the best when the singer growls. Are there any Opeth albums where all the singer does is growl because if so I'd like to get that CD.

[Shattered_Future]

No, most of their songs contain growling and sung passages. Pick up Blackwater Park though...the growls he does on that album are absolutely freaking scary.

[bluewizard]

No, most of their songs contain growling and sung passages. Pick up Blackwater Park though...the growls he does on that album are absolutely freaking scary.
I heard the Deliverance album was the heaviest. Would you suggest that over Blackwater Park?

[Darkness]

If you want the heaviness of it, yeah. Get My Arms, Your Hearse too. Tied with Deliverance for heaviness and amount of growls.

[Det_Nosnip]

Deliverance is a bit more straight-forward heavy and brutal. MAYH is more of an artistic, emotional heaviness.

[Darkness]

Yeah, that's very true.

[Shadows]

1. BWP
2. SL
3. Damnation
4. MAYH
----------------- big dropoff
5. MR
6. Deliverence
-------------------- bigger dropoff
7. Ghost Reveries
8. Orchid

I still love Orchid though, I just love the others more.
You're feakin' crazy.

[pate]

How so?

[Shadows]

I understand that a lot of Opeth fans don't care for Ghost Reveries, but ranking Orchid as their worst album ever is flat out unacceptable.

[Nostalgia]

Orchid's their best IMO. I don't dislike Ghost Reveries, but It's not on my top list. BWP is probably my second.

[pate]

Worst is a relative term. I said I still love it, but I love the others more.

Being the worst Opeth album is like being the worst $2000 PRS guitar: it's still pretty ****ing awesome.

[Nostalgia]

What don't you like about Orchid?

[Shadows]

Hm, let's see if I can make a list. It will be my first one ever here.

1. Orchid
2. Ghost Reveries
3. My Arms, Your Hearse
4. Morningrise
5. Damnation
6. Blackwater Park
7. Deliverance
8. Still Life

I think that will suffice. The first four are really hard for me to rank amongst each other. I'm sure my list will be different simply because I ranked GR so high and Still Life so low.

[pate]

What don't you like about Orchid?

I love it, and now that I think about it, I would put it above GR.

It's really a great, great album, but I feel that the others are better.

[Nostalgia]

Oh, okay. My list would go something like this:

Orchid
Black Water Park
Damnation
Deliverance
Morningrise
Ghost Reveries
My Arms, Your Hearse (I just cracked this CD yesterday. :()

I've never heard Still Life though.

[pate]

Ooh, you need to.

I went through BWP and SL back-to-back earlier today...2+ hours of non-stop awesomeness.

[Killtacular]

Hm, let's see if I can make a list. It will be my first one ever here.

1. Orchid
2. Ghost Reveries
3. My Arms, Your Hearse
4. Morningrise
5. Damnation
6. Blackwater Park
7. Deliverance
8. Still Life

I think that will suffice. The first four are really hard for me to rank amongst each other. I'm sure my list will be different simply because I ranked GR so high and Still Life so low.
And you call yourself a fan....


Here's my awesometastic list:

1. Still Life
2. Deliverance
3. My Arms, Your Hearse
4. Damnation
5. Morningrise
6. Blackwater Park (tongue my butt)
7. Orchid
8. Ghost Reveries

[pate]

Pretty nice list. Swap Deliverence with BWP and you've just about got my list.

[Shadows]

And you call yourself a fan....


Here's my awesometastic list:

1. Still Life
2. Deliverance
3. My Arms, Your Hearse
4. Damnation
5. Morningrise
6. Blackwater Park (tongue my butt)
7. Orchid
8. Ghost Reveries
That's the worst list in the history of lists. :mad:

[Shadius]

I understand that a lot of Opeth fans don't care for Ghost Reveries, but ranking Orchid as their worst album ever is flat out unacceptable.

Why? The songwriting dosn't hold my interest as much as every other release.

Putting Deliverance in the top 3 is hilarious too. It just screams "We rushed this album and put parts together regardless of how much they might fit". The band even mostly agrees.

Strongest releases: Still Life, Ghost Reveries, My Arms Your Hearse and Damnation.

Inconsistant but still awesome release: Blackwater Park.

Lacking releases: Morningrise, Orchird, Deliverance.

Even the lacking releases have awesome songs, or parts of songs in them, bare in mind. And many, many metal bands would do well to release albums of even that quality.

[Shattered_Future]

I heard the Deliverance album was the heaviest. Would you suggest that over Blackwater Park?

I think there's less singing in that one, so if that's your thing, by all means get Deliverance. I personally don't think the songwriting is as good, and the growls are a lot better on BWP, but there's a few who will disagree with me.

Ben, you have no right to rank Still Life so low, you fool.

[Kage]

Hm, let's see if I can make a list. It will be my first one ever here.

1. Orchid
2. Ghost Reveries
3. My Arms, Your Hearse
4. Morningrise
5. Damnation
6. Blackwater Park
7. Deliverance
8. Still Life

I think that will suffice. The first four are really hard for me to rank amongst each other. I'm sure my list will be different simply because I ranked GR so high and Still Life so low.
Well, I think that rating Still Life as their worst ever is unacceptable. I'm not an old-skool fan, though, so I'm obviously not as badazz.

[Mazeppa]

Well, I think that rating Still Life as their worst ever is unacceptable. I'm not an old-skool fan, though, so I'm obviously not as badazz.
Meh. Still Life remains my favourite too, I also think that it doesn't deserve to be at the bottom.

[Otherside]

1.Morningrise(THAT'S RIGHT DAMNIT :angry:)
2.BWP
3.Still Life
4.Deliverance
5.Damnation


Ghost Reveries would be at the bottom if I were to continue :x

[Tyr]

1. Still Life
2. MAYH
3. BWP
4. Damnation
5. Deliverance
6. GR
7. Morningrise
8. Orchid

[Neoteric]

Are Opeth any good live? I might have a chance to see them when they come over here.

[Shattered_Future]

Are Opeth any good live? I might have a chance to see them when they come over here.

They are KILLER live. One of the best experiences I've ever seen live. Everything sounds so much more awesome.

[Otherside]

Opeth live is pretty much and undescribable experience. Very crowd friendly, and just overall greatness.

[Neoteric]

Opeth live is pretty much and undescribable experience. Very crowd friendly, and just overall greatness.
I saw a live video of Death Whispered A Lullaby and the atmosphere looked great.

[pate]

Indeed. They are amazing live. Best live sound I've ever heard as well.

[Thor]

Opeth live is pretty much and undescribable experience. Very crowd friendly, and just overall greatness.
Which is perfectly demonstrated by their DVD. That atmosphere is ideal for me because I like concerts where people mosh, but I hate it when people go overboard like at Slayer concerts. It takes away from the musical aspect because you're just fighting to stay alive when you're watching bands like that. With Opeth that's not the case, but the moshing is still there.

[Nostalgia]

That's interesting. Does everyone just stop when they play acoustic songs?

What kind of mishing is it?

[Thor]

That's interesting. Does everyone just stop when they play acoustic songs?

What kind of mishing is it?
From what I've seen it's just people throwing each other around, and nothing big ever happens. And they do stop during the acoustic songs because it just doesn't fit at all. I mean, could you imagine moshing to a song like "Windowpane"? I don't think so. :thumb:

[Nostalgia]

Haha, yeah, that'd be really strange. I wanna see Opeth so bad though. I'm guessing they'd put on a great show.

[Tyr]

Opeth live is nothing short of amazing.

[Thor]

Haha, yeah, that'd be really strange. I wanna see Opeth so bad though. I'm guessing they'd put on a great show.
Oh, they certainly do. :thumb:

Anyone here a fan of the song Nectar? I really got into that track today. The bass work on there is superb.

[Tyr]

Sure, it's good, but I'm not really a fan of Morningrise as a whole.

[Shadows]

I love Morningrise in general.

On a serious note, people who don't worship Opeth's first albums are fools. That is all.

[Tyr]

I just can't stand the lousy production.

[Thor]

I love Morningrise in general.

On a serious note, people who don't worship Opeth's first albums are fools. That is all.
I don't like Orchid as much as I probably should, but I'm a huge fan of Morningrise. That album is no doubt one of the most amazing albums in the progressive metal genre. To Bid You Farewell also remains to be the most beautiful songs I've ever heard.

Well, it's dinner time for Thor. I'll be back later.

[Shadows]

To Bid You Farewell is a masterpiece, but I prefer Orchid as a whole to Morningrise.

I just can't stand the lousy production.
That definitely holds Orchid and Morningrise back, but the music is still top-notch.

[Nostalgia]

The great thing about Orchid is it has like a lot of really, really great tracks on it. The Twilight Is My Robe is amazing.

On Ghost Reveries I like more of their acoustic stuff, like Isolation Years, or Hours Of Wealth.

[Daven]

I don't like Orchid as much as I probably should, but I'm a huge fan of Morningrise. That album is no doubt one of the most amazing albums in the progressive metal genre. To Bid You Farewell also remains to be the most beautiful songs I've ever heard.

Well, it's dinner time for Thor. I'll be back later.

I must agree with this, my favorite off Morningrise.

[Tyr]

True, if I could somehow manage to not be disturbed by the production, I would listen to Orchid and Morningrise a lot more than I do now.

EDIT: To ShadowsFallen

[Daven]

The production is not the best, but you can get used to it.

[Tyr]

Probably, I just have to listen time and again 'til I get used to it, I guess.

[Nostalgia]

After hearing that albums so much, I don't even notice the production anymore.

[Shadows]

I've always thought it would be a dream come true if Opeth did to Orchid and Morningrise what Dimmu Borgir did to Stormblast. Go back into the studio and re-record the entire album(s) as if they were making a whole new album. I would only hope they didn't alter any of the music like Dimmu did.

[Nostalgia]

I've always thought it would be a dream come true if Opeth did to Orchid and Morningrise what Dimmu Borgir did to Stormblast. Go back into the studio and re-record the entire album(s) as if they were making a whole new album. I would only hope they didn't alter any of the music like Dimmu did.
Glad to see you're posting a lot more now.

[Tyr]

I think I'm going to listen to Morningrise tomorrow and see if I can change my mind about the production.

[Thor]

I like the old production in a way because it really adds to the whole atmosphere that those albums needed. Their newer material would sound pretty bad with that production style, but it certainly worked for their earlier songs.

[Insipid2000]

Really, I like the newer production better because its probably easier to listen to I really like the production on Ghost of Pertition.

[Thor]

Really, I like the newer production better because its probably easier to listen to I really like the production on Ghost of Pertition.
Yeah, the new production is close to perfect but I still like the old one because the bass guitar was very distinct and easy to hear. Nowadays Mendez's bass lines are often overshadowed by everything else and that's always been a pet peave of mine.

[Insipid2000]

Plus, the old sound was probably more raw for the heavier side of fans.

[Shadows]

The old albums would benefit greatly from cleaner production because they're based heavily around guitar harmonies and acoustic passages, neither of which sound very good the way they are now.

[Shadius]

Yeah, the new production is close to perfect but I still like the old one because the bass guitar was very distinct and easy to hear. Nowadays Mendez's bass lines are often overshadowed by everything else and that's always been a pet peave of mine.

The old bass tone was shite though. You can hear it too well on most songs off Morningrise, and to a lesser extent Orchid.

Mendez is a far better bassist, IMO. I mean, I suppose it could do with being brought up a little in the mix, but what with the heavily distorted guitars it would be drowned anyway.

[TojesDolan]

Its the overal sensation, it's fitting in each album, and they work greatly as they are.

However, a re-editin of Orchid\Morningrise would be interesting, with much better vocals.

[Shadius]

Its the overal sensation, it's fitting in each album, and they work greatly as they are.

However, a re-editin of Orchid\Morningrise would be interesting, with much better vocals.

And maybe some more vocal melodies in the clean sections. Along with his stronger growling. Less repetitions of the more boring riffs.. yeah, the albums could be made into their best work, totally. I just can't see a lot of fans being that happy though, haha.

[Darkness]

I'm totally down for a redo of those albums.


/top poster has spoken :cool:

[Otherside]

I think GR was a bit too over-produced. I think BWP probably was the most well done in production values.

[Det_Nosnip]

Yeah, the new production is close to perfect but I still like the old one because the bass guitar was very distinct and easy to hear. Nowadays Mendez's bass lines are often overshadowed by everything else and that's always been a pet peave of mine.

They're still there, though. I kinda like the fact that you have to actually pay attention in order to hear what he's doing...it's one of those things where you'll notice different things with each listen. He's a bit more subtle of a player, but he adds some really nice touches.

[pate]

Indeed he is subtle.

Good subtle bass playing = good flashy bass playing IMO

[Carrionshine]

The only real problems I have with the production on Orchid and Morningrise would be the thin drums and the super reverbed vocals. I really got used to them though. I really dont see a need for a remastering. Orchid with BWP production would be awesome though.

Being that Mikael doesnt even like those albums anymore, he probably would pull a Dimmu and alter the **** out of them.

[Shadius]

I personally think he's too much of a creative guy to want to go back and redo things. Maybe if he didn't have enough material for a full new album he might consider it...

..but man, his work rate is immense and the original stuff he comes up with all the time. I can see quite a few new albums being made before he resorts to redoing anything.

[AA-12]

Redoing Orchid and Morningrise would kill the albums. That underproduced and raw feel MADE them.

[Shadows]

No it didn't. Please cease your crazy talk ASAP.

[Whale and Wasp]

Redoing Orchid and Morningrise would kill the albums. That underproduced and raw feel MADE them.
i agree; it sort of added to the spooky, angry atmosphere


though it would be interesting to hear the albums in the new opeth sound....and if you dont like it the old versions are still there

[Jude]

I'm for Orchid and Morningrise being remixed/remastered by Steven Wilson (because he is the God of Production) but not re-done or whatever...there's no reason to change the albums from how they were. I think a good remastering job could make the guitars less painful to listen to, but the guitar and vocal tones were a crucial part of those two albums. No need to get rid of those.

What really brought them down was the lack of any attempts at songwriting. They basically strung a bunch of riffs together and called it a ten minute song. Of course there's also the fact that the riffs on Orchid are kind of contrived for the most part and that the acoustic riffs on it are downright weak. Morningrise remedied those but still suffered from lack of songwriting.

[Shadows]

I couldn't disagree more.

[Daven]

I feel the urge to listen to The Master's Apprentice, but i dont have it in my computer!!! :mad:

[rhcp pman]

BWP and Morningrise are my fav Opeth albums - I don't think Morningrise suffers from bad songwriting.

But yeah, I'd like to see Steven Wilson remaster Orchid and Morningrise. I don't mind the production, but I'd like to see how it sounds after Wilson has had a go with it.