Opeth

[musicnerd]

Carboard Headgear...what's your interpretation? I'm interested to know. Do you have any thoughts on the songs from Blackwater Park or Deliverance? peace, Chris

[Det_Nosnip]

ooh, and if you like lyrics on the evil of humanity check the lyrics of meshuggah.


especialy on the 'contradictions collapse' and the 'chaosphere 'album

Their lyrics aren't so much about the "evil" of humanity as much as the inhumanity of humanity, if that makes any sense. Machines are not by nature evil; they're amoral. Meshuggah seems to be reacting against the dehumanization of humanity resulting from the state of modern society.

*puts on "Destroy Erase Improve* :cool:

[musicnerd]

Speaking of evil...would anyone on this board characterize Opeth's lyrics as evil? As far as I can tell...they're a lot like poetry. Not to be taken literally, there's always a deeper meaning and sympolism under the surface...am I just stating the obvious? peace, Chris

[Det_Nosnip]

If by "evil," you mean encouraging bad acts, then no.

[Iron Man]

Speaking of evil...would anyone on this board characterize Opeth's lyrics as evil? As far as I can tell...they're a lot like poetry. Not to be taken literally, there's always a deeper meaning and sympolism under the surface...am I just stating the obvious? peace, Chris

Evil? I wouldn't say so. They do tend to get quite deep, and quite morbid at times however. I love them, personally.

[Grey Incision]

I would say Opeth's lyrics are quite poetic as you said, you just have to listen to black rose immortal to figure that out. After reading the full bio at www.opeth.com last night, it seems mikael doesn't look to make evil lyrics/music, but he did state that he prefers dark sounding music. (which isn't evil, just dark)

btw, Det-was the woman in your avatar on Ayreon-the human equation album?

[musicnerd]

I would say Opeth's lyrics are quite poetic as you said, you just have to listen to black rose immortal to figure that out. After reading the full bio at www.opeth.com last night, it seems mikael doesn't look to make evil lyrics/music, but he did state that he prefers dark sounding music. (which isn't evil, just dark)

btw, Det-was the woman in your avatar on Ayreon-the human equation album?

That's good to know. I try to steer clear of evil lyrics/music. It's no question that Mikael's lyrics are dark. It seems that he leaves them open to interpretation, but at the same time...I'm sure he knows what they're about since he wrote them. I enjoy these discussions. peace, Chris

[Cardboard Headgear]

btw, Det-was the woman in your avatar on Ayreon-the human equation album?
No, it's neither of the three female singers on that album. Seeing as how it's Det, I'm going to make the WWWWIIIIIILLLLDDDD assumption that it's Anneke Van Giersbergen from The Gathering.

Also, YAY, real conversation in this thread again.

[musicnerd]

Grey Incision--is there a new bio on Opeth.net. I haven't been to that site in a couple months, and I can't access it from work. Do you have thoughts about what The Leper Affinity is about? Some folks seem to think its about rape and murder..and to me, that's pretty evil. I hope my interpretation is accurate. peace, Chris

[Iron Man]

Go vote for Blackwater Park!

*rabble rabble*

[Grey Incision]

Grey Incision--is there a new bio on Opeth.net. I haven't been to that site in a couple months, and I can't access it from work. Do you have thoughts about what The Leper Affinity is about? Some folks seem to think its about rape and murder..and to me, that's pretty evil. I hope my interpretation is accurate. peace, Chris

haven't been to Opeth.net but the bio on Opeth.com is awesome (dunno if they are the same thing or not) With Leper affinity, i have the same sort of interpretation as you, as Mikael did express his feelings about the album were his disdain for humanity. Opeth oasis brought up a valid point earlier in the thread. BWP can be considered as a concept album, although Mikael didn't intend it to be.

Leper affinity-The town of Blackwater park is plagued by a disease(Leprosy) and the character is not affected "i am beyond death"

Bleak-The character works to find a cure "heart still beating for the cause"

Harvest-The townspeople are dying but the character ist still working for a cure "halo of death, all i see is departure, mourners lament, but it's me who's the martyr"

The drapery falls-A lover, or somebody dear to the character dies "you turn your back and you walk away"

Dirge for november-The character is contemplating suicide, throwing it all in as a result of the death of somebody dear to him. "Preparations are done,this can't last The mere refletion brought disgust No ordeal to conquer, this firm slit"

The funeral portrait-He has given up, finally commited suicide, and left the town to it's own. "I'm greeting my downward fall, leaving the throes to others."

Patterns in the ivy-instrumental

Blackwater park-The town is left with the last of the townspeople dying off.
"Lepers coiled neath the trees Dying men in bewildered soliloquys Perversions bloom round the bend Seekers, lost in their quest Ghosts of friends frolic under the waning moon

It is the year of death Wielding his instruments Stealth sovereign reaper Touching us with ease."


This is just 1 interpretation of The leper affinity and the BWP album as a whole. Personally, i prefer the conclusion you have come to, it is more logical, considering that Mikael did not mean BWP to be a concept album

[Cardboard Headgear]

It's not a concept album with a storyline!!!! LAKJSDSOAIDH8023ghroawuef

[Grey Incision]

It's not a concept album with a storyline!!!! LAKJSDSOAIDH8023ghroawuef

i know card, don't worry :) i was saying, opeth_oasis said it earlier, and it is an interpretation

[Cardboard Headgear]

Lol ok, I thought that everyone kept ignoring me the million times I said it. "No worries."

[Det_Nosnip]

No, it's neither of the three female singers on that album. Seeing as how it's Det, I'm going to make the WWWWIIIIIILLLLDDDD assumption that it's Anneke Van Giersbergen from The Gathering.

Also, YAY, real conversation in this thread again.

;) The very same.


btw, Det-was the woman in your avatar on Ayreon-the human equation album?

No, but she HAS performed with Arjen Lucassen before, on an earlier Ayreon album (into the Electric Castle).

[/obsessed]

[GnRguitarist]

Do all opeth songs have a lot of screaming in them? jw because i downloaded one of them (it was something about a park im not quite sure though) and i didnt like it because of all the screaming (i am not a big fan of metal). so are they all like that?

[Iron Man]

Do all opeth songs have a lot of screaming in them? jw because i downloaded one of them (it was something about a park im not quite sure though) and i didnt like it because of all the screaming (i am not a big fan of metal). so are they all like that?

Mikael does growl in the majoriry of Opeth songs, yes. Either you learn to enjoy it, or there's not that much Opeth material open for you...although they did produce an all soft album.

[GnRguitarist]

Mikael does growl in the majoriry of Opeth songs, yes. Either you learn to enjoy it, or there's not that much Opeth material open for you...although they did produce an all soft album.
i guess opeths not for me then :( . there still a good band.

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted by GnRguitarist
Do all opeth songs have a lot of screaming in them? jw because i downloaded one of them (it was something about a park im not quite sure though) and i didnt like it because of all the screaming (i am not a big fan of metal). so are they all like that?

Pretty much all of the albums except Orchid have at least one soft, acoustic song. Try the song Harvest, thats the first Opeth song i ever heard and it got me hooked on them.

[GnRguitarist]

Pretty much all of the albums except Orchid have at least one soft, acoustic song. Try the song Harvest, thats the first Opeth song i ever heard and it got me hooked on them.
ok.

[3rdplanet]

Pretty much all of the albums except Orchid have at least one soft, acoustic song. Try the song Harvest, thats the first Opeth song i ever heard and it got me hooked on them.

Harvest, first Opeth song I heard, genius...

*memories*

[Grey Incision]

April ethereal, first song i heard..............i thought it was trash.............then it grew on me...........and kept growing:) and now, it's always in my top 5 songs:)

[opeth_oasis]

is there any song that you guys find kind of weak for Opeth standards? I think i would have to say the Amen Corner, that just doesnt appeal to me the way the other songs do.

[Gibbers3095]

is there any song that you guys find kind of weak for Opeth standards? I think i would have to say the Amen Corner, that just doesnt appeal to me the way the other songs do.

For me it would be Ending Credits. Don't get me wrong, I like it quite a bit, but it tends to get on my nerves after I hear it a few times.

[Grey Incision]

For me it would be Ending Credits. Don't get me wrong, I like it quite a bit, but it tends to get on my nerves after I hear it a few times.

could it be the repetitiveness (sp?) and i agree with amen corner, it's one of the only songs i don't rate highly on the MAYH album, i still like it, just not as much. Also, many would disagree, but i say Wreath, that's never done much for me.

[opeth_oasis]

yes, for me the first time i was listening to Amen Corner i found it to be a really cool song, but it kind of lost me about halfway through.

[Cardboard Headgear]

The Amen Corner loses me everytime. I like the individual parts and riffs and such, but the song as a whole just never manages to hold my interest all the way through.

[opeth_oasis]

:lol: ok good im not the only one :lol:

[deadinholywood]

i dislike Moonlapse Vertigo i dont really know why, it just does nothing for me.

[Grey Incision]

i dislike Moonlapse Vertigo i dont really know why, it just does nothing for me.

/me slaps you

for moonlapse vertigo is my favourite song by opeth :(

[deadinholywood]

im sorry im sorry :upset:

[Grey Incision]

im sorry im sorry :upset:

all is well, for i just listened to it, and my rage has subsided again :thumb:

[Grey Incision]

By the way, i have a question for all you Opeth fans, i was wondering, what is the hardest song to play, guitar wise? i need a nice little challenge/goal to work for. i was thinking White cluster maybe? blackrose immortal even( that's not too hard, just amazingly long)

[deadinholywood]

^well which song do you dislike the most?

[opeth_oasis]

the funeral portrait i have never been able to get for some reason

[deadinholywood]

Na i dont mind that song i find it better than 'Dirge for November' and i enjoy the sweep picking solo on it

[opeth_oasis]

the hardest guitar work would be off orchid and still life

[opeth_oasis]

o try singing and playing wreath at the same time, now thats something i think even Mike has troubles doing

[deadinholywood]

Agreed. One of the big positives with opeth for me is that the guitar parts arent always impossibly hard yet always sounds impressive.
Where do you live oasis?

[opeth_oasis]

aussie champ

[Cardboard Headgear]

o try singing and playing wreath at the same time, now thats something i think even Mike has troubles doing
Which part are you talking about? I don't find it to be too difficult.

[opeth_oasis]

pretty much whole song, u must be pretty good then.

[Cardboard Headgear]

Nah, it's really not that hard, just give it a go. Overall I'd have to say Still Life (as an album) is the trickiest to play and sing the parts at the same time, it's got all that unconventional riffing going on that's got vocals over it at the same time.

[opeth_oasis]

yeh, for sure that would be the most difficult

[musicnerd]

Lol ok, I thought that everyone kept ignoring me the million times I said it. "No worries."
To Cardboard Headgear--
If you believe that BWP is not a concept album...then what is your interpretation of the leper affinity or the other songs for that matter? I think its more of a thematic album. Feel free to email me about this too. funkydrummer_@hotmail.com peace, Chris

[relliK]

http://noddy.free.fr/bootleg/links2.htm

^Go there, scroll down to Opeth and stream an hour long video.If you could rip it, I wouldnt shed a tear.My 56gay only gives me audio.

[opeth_oasis]

hmm i think i've seen this one before

[Grey Incision]

is that the one where they start with Godhead's lament?

[LeperAffinity]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, as I haven't checked in on this thread in a while. But I was recently introduced to this band Farmakon, and they sound remarkably like Opeth. Not saying it's a bad thing, they actually pull it off quite well. There are a few samples on their site if you're curious:

http://www.saunalahti.fi/~htp/farmakon/multiarea.html

[Grey Incision]

yeah, i heard farmakon were similar to Opeth, never really checked anything out though, thanks for the link, i'll have a look later

[Cain]

Just took a look. A bit more power metal than Opeth (more vibrato on the clean vocals, way more technical guitar solos), but a bit less melodic and dense. Maybe that one clip that I could hear wasn't so representative.

[Grey Incision]

you've earnt your stars ripper.

rep++

[Cain]

you've earnt your stars ripper.

rep++

Thanks dude! Have some rep as well.

[Det_Nosnip]

is that the one where they start with Godhead's lament?

Yeah....awesome set. God, I love that song+album. :cool:

[Grey Incision]

Yeah....awesome set. God, I love that song+album. :cool:

qouted for the simple fact that i agree, that album is the only album that puts me in such a hypnotic state, truly a masterpeice

++rep for a fellow still life lover :thumb:

[ArcLite]

BWP is very atmospheric. It has such a dark and gloomy feel to it which makes it very enjoyable yet strange at the same time. Indeed the best Opeth album for me.

[Grey Incision]

nice, BWP hasn't struck home as the best for me, Still life, then MAYH, both have the same effect on me

[4130]

The first solo in The Lepper Affinity on BWP gets me everytime, I just love it. That's why I never bothered learning it, by the time I'm finished learning a song I know it so well taht it doesnt put me in the same mood anymore.

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Exactly what I was thinking awhile ago. (rep ++)

Sometimes I dont want to learn how to play a song, cause after Ive played along, it doesn't have the same feeling it once possesed. With Opeth's complex music, I sometimes just leave it be.

Let the masters do it!

[Fallen Zero]

The first solo in The Lepper Affinity on BWP gets me everytime, I just love it. That's why I never bothered learning it, by the time I'm finished learning a song I know it so well taht it doesnt put me in the same mood anymore.

that song has more than one solo?

[relliK]

There is one done by Lindgren right after the acoustic part.At about 6 mins or so.

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted by cjborton
BWP is very atmospheric. It has such a dark and gloomy feel to it which makes it very enjoyable yet strange at the same time. Indeed the best Opeth album for me.

hmm i havent listened to BWP in a while, been really into orchid and still life, white cluster has been my fav song lately, though i never used to really like it. It's quite experimental but has some of the best riffs, very evil type song. :evil:

[opeth_oasis]

haha i found a christian metal band that sounds very similiar to early opeth called sanctifica, their site has some samples http://www.sanctifica.com

[Fallen Zero]

There is one done by Lindgren right after the acoustic part.At about 6 mins or so.

Oh i see. I just always considered that an extension, or part of the interlude.

[Cain]

That's one of the reasons Deliverance disappointed me: there was very little of the thickness of BWP and especially Still Life had, and little layering of guitar parts. That was a disappointment.

[akerfeldt]

opeth_oasis, rep++ this band is like identical to orchid style opeth, they even look quite similiar. Anyone know anything on this brilliant bands new album? Like what month it will be released?

[Epicurus]

^^^ my friend knows i'll find out

[ArcLite]

Does anyone know if Mike intentionally made Bleak with the middle-eastern sounding riffs in it? It certainly has that vibe, but I fail to see how a sound that would be good in a desert fits in well on an album called Blackwater Park. Anyone else see what I mean? Don't get me wrong, Bleak is my favorite Opeth song, but it seems oddly placed on BWP.

[ArcLite]

Bump

Where did all the Opeth fans go? My above inquiry still stands.

[Cain]

Blackwater Park is just the name of an old prog band that they decided to pay tribute to in the title, is my understanding. Middle Eastern scales are some of the most dissonant and unique, so it's natural for a melodic death-metal band such as Opeth to make use of them. They did the same thing on "Closure" on Damnation. The song itself has much denser, non-Middle-Eastern sections too, which are in keeping with the general layering and sound of the album (I'm talking about the acoustic and the breakdown sections in particular). I don't really think it sounds out of place at all.

[ArcLite]

The thing is, from a normal standpoint it isn't out of place, I agree with everything you said. However, when I'm listening to the album I kind of get the mindset of being in a dark, gloomy swamp-like forest. This is simply because of the albums title. Despite whether or not the name had anything to do with the songs' sounds, all the other ones work with that theme for me except Bleak. It was more of a personal critique rather than a general one, but I figured I'd bring it up just to see if anyone else had that feeling going.

[Cain]

The thing is, from a normal standpoint it isn't out of place, I agree with everything you said. However, when I'm listening to the album I kind of get the mindset of being in a dark, gloomy swamp-like forest. This is simply because of the albums title. Despite whether or not the name had anything to do with the songs' sounds, all the other ones work with that theme for me except Bleak. It was more of a personal critique rather than a general one, but I figured I'd bring it up just to see if anyone else had that feeling going.

Ah. Sorry I couldn't help you there. :)

[Det_Nosnip]

The thing is, from a normal standpoint it isn't out of place, I agree with everything you said. However, when I'm listening to the album I kind of get the mindset of being in a dark, gloomy swamp-like forest. This is simply because of the albums title. Despite whether or not the name had anything to do with the songs' sounds, all the other ones work with that theme for me except Bleak. It was more of a personal critique rather than a general one, but I figured I'd bring it up just to see if anyone else had that feeling going.

Eh, I disagree even with that. "The Funeral Portrait," for example, calls to mind a snowy landscape with a raging inferno. "Harvest" is a warm song, with more oranges and light browns than greys or blacks.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

Eh, I disagree even with that. "The Funeral Portrait," for example, calls to mind a snowy landscape with a raging inferno. "Harvest" is a warm song, with more oranges and light browns than greys or blacks.
Also, The Leper Affinity brings up a snow image (lost are days of spring...your gaze covered in virgin snow)

I think Mike is talking about a wide array of emotions and is associating them with seasons. He does this a lot, especially on ****ation with Summer. Like in "In My Time of Need"...Summer is miles miles away and in Death Whispered..."Out on the road, fireflies circing", which is in summer.

I think that's just Mike style...I jumped back in this, so if someone already said this...my bad

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted by Det_Nosnip
Eh, I disagree even with that. "The Funeral Portrait," for example, calls to mind a snowy landscape with a raging inferno. "Harvest" is a warm song, with more oranges and light browns than greys or blacks.

i agree with you, couldnt of said it better myself, rep++:thumb:

[IvortheEngineDriver]

is that the one where they start with Godhead's lament?
No, Still Life starts with The Moor. Godhead's Lament is the second song...The Moor = A mind****...

then, comes Benighted...has to be one of the most beautiful songs ever!

[ArcLite]

Like I said fellas, its just what I feel when I listen to it, nothing more. But at least give me that BWP, the song, gives a little dark forest vibe (or maybe not).

[IvortheEngineDriver]

Like I said fellas, its just what I feel when I listen to it, nothing more. But at least give me that BWP, the song, gives a little dark forest vibe (or maybe not).
More Swampish...because I think it shows someone overcoming and becoming powerful and leaving his problems behind...that's my interepation

[opeth_oasis]

i think it does, but thats only my thought on the song

[ArcLite]

More Swampish...because I think it shows someone overcoming and becoming powerful and leaving his problems behind...that's my interepation

Yeah in one of my previous posts I had the swamp element there too.

[opeth_oasis]

anyone know where i can get an Opeth shirt in Australia, i have one but i want a still life or blackwater park one, anyone know?

[dUSK]

anyone know where i can get an Opeth shirt in Australia, i have one but i want a still life or blackwater park one, anyone know?

I've seen them online at Sanity.com, so they could probably get them in store for you. Although, I wouldn't buy from them, apparently their shirts a dodgy, and I just don't like Sanity.

[opeth_oasis]

ok, im going to buy one from melbourne, blackwater park looks good.

[Cardboard Headgear]

No, Still Life starts with The Moor. Godhead's Lament is the second song.
He's talking about on the streamed concert from the link.

[4130]

ok, im going to buy one from melbourne, blackwater park looks good.

When you find some tell me. I got a deliverance shirt from Smoke Dreams, it was the last one, apart from the ones with old style logo, which I don't like that much. I also tried Metal Mayhem but they only had long sleeves (and a lot of them, which pissed me off).

[Grey Incision]

No, Still Life starts with The Moor. Godhead's Lament is the second song...The Moor = A mind****...

then, comes Benighted...has to be one of the most beautiful songs ever!

you dick, i know my own favourite album, i was talking about the concert setlist ****wit, there was a downloadable concert ehre ages ago that started with godhead's lament, and this guy put another one up, i couldn't download, so i said "is that the one that starts with godhead's lament. christ, read it in context for ****s sake

-sorry, im just pissed off, nobody tells me i don't know my favourite album

[opeth_oasis]

:lol: u proved your point :lol:

[Grey Incision]

:lol: u proved your point :lol:
:p sometimes these people need to be put in their place oasis. Plus, i've had an annoying day, me asked really really **** irresistably hot (and not slut type) chick out and got rejected :upset: *sounds quite emo right bout naw*

but she can't resist for long :naughty:

[opeth_oasis]

:lol: tell her she has the face of melinda :lol:

[Grey Incision]

:lol: tell her she has the face of melinda :lol:

:lol: i love it, shall be done,

and people, is Epilogue a good song to do by yourself to show your music teacher an understanding and a small repertoire of guitar? Most of the stuff i listen to/play is heavier and over 11 min long. So i was thinking epilogue as a nice little thing for music

[BradyEB]

:naughty:
Every time i see that face it gets laughing. Good last couple of posts :thumb:
Anyone no where i could find a bootlet of Godheads Lament live over the net BTW?

[IvortheEngineDriver]

you dick, i know my own favourite album, i was talking about the concert setlist ****wit, there was a downloadable concert ehre ages ago that started with godhead's lament, and this guy put another one up, i couldn't download, so i said "is that the one that starts with godhead's lament. christ, read it in context for ****s sake

-sorry, im just pissed off, nobody tells me i don't know my favourite album
Jesus tapdancing Christ! Chill, misunderstanding here...You never know with people...calm down

[the2stranger]

Also, The Leper Affinity brings up a snow image (lost are days of spring...your gaze covered in virgin snow)

I think Mike is talking about a wide array of emotions and is associating them with seasons. He does this a lot, especially on ****ation with Summer. Like in "In My Time of Need"...Summer is miles miles away and in Death Whispered..."Out on the road, fireflies circing", which is in summer.

I think that's just Mike style...I jumped back in this, so if someone already said this...my bad

the lyrics of 'death whispered a lullaby' are by Steven Wilson.

but nonetheless I agree with you that Mikeal's lyrics often talk about seasons to express his feelings and emotions.

he's one of my favorite lyricists together with MJK

[musicnerd]

Yeah, The Leper Affinity does have a "wintery" and cold feeling to it. "We entered Winter once again..." Come to think of it Ivortheenginedriver, Mikael does use seasons alot. Although, I didnt' notice it much, if at all, on Deliverance. Speaking of Deliverance. I know the title track is about a guy who drowns a woman and then realizes he'd lost is salvation, or "deliverance". Does anyone think there is meaning below the surface, like most Opeth songs? peace, Chris

[RouteOne]

I have been listening to Opeth for about a year now, but I have a bit of a n00bish question. What is "master's apprentice" about?

[IvortheEngineDriver]

the lyrics of 'death whispered a lullaby' are by Steven Wilson.

but nonetheless I agree with you that Mikeal's lyrics often talk about seasons to express his feelings and emotions.

he's one of my favorite lyricists together with MJK
I know! I like Steven Wilson, though I wish he would stop producing Opeth's albums, he's done his part, now they need to expand and grow without him.
*I love PT, man, glad to see someone else like them as well.

I think we all have associations with weather and seasons. Its a staple of writing, you know, when someone says its raining in a song, usually means something isn't right. I think Mike is just using his prog roots and taking this mantra and running with it.

Personally, I agree, MJK, Mike and Brandon from Incubus are my favorite lyricists (along with Dream Theater and PT)...Mike's lyrics are amazing, especially on The Drapery Falls. God, that song is an orgasm!

[Det_Nosnip]

Spiraling to the ground below...like autumn leaves left in the wake to faaaaaaaaaddddeeeeeee

:cool:

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted by amostbitterseason
I have been listening to Opeth for about a year now, but I have a bit of a n00bish question. What is "master's apprentice" about?

it seems to have a bit of a desert theme, but it is not very clear. Masters Apprentices has my favourite ever clean vocal part.

[opeth_oasis]

i remember passing a site that showed the covers to opeth singles, does anyone know the site? cheers :wave:

[the2stranger]

I know! I like Steven Wilson, though I wish he would stop producing Opeth's albums, he's done his part, now they need to expand and grow without him.
*I love PT, man, glad to see someone else like them as well.

I think we all have associations with weather and seasons. Its a staple of writing, you know, when someone says its raining in a song, usually means something isn't right. I think Mike is just using his prog roots and taking this mantra and running with it.

Personally, I agree, MJK, Mike and Brandon from Incubus are my favorite lyricists (along with Dream Theater and PT)...Mike's lyrics are amazing, especially on The Drapery Falls. God, that song is an orgasm!



you have some awesome taste for music :thumb:
and I like your approch of looking at lyrics.

have some rep+ man!

grtz from a fellow Opeth, Porcupine tree, Tool and DT fan ;)

ps.
are you going to any of the PT concerts?

[bahamut_0]

it seems to have a bit of a desert theme, but it is not very clear. Masters Apprentices has my favourite ever clean vocal part.

Yeah, I love the clean part almost as much as I love how it goes back into the heavy part. That just blew me away.

[the2stranger]

Yeah, I love the clean part almost as much as I love how it goes back into the heavy part. That just blew me away.


what I admire so much about Opeth is:

they can blend in so many different parts.
try this:

take along song of them (almost any :p)
which has both clean an growling parts (almost any :p)
and take four short sections of the song.

one clean singing part
one growling part
one accoustic (interlude) part
and 1 heavy riff



keep those sections in your head, and then trry imaging how you could put all of these so different song parts togeher in one song, I fail at that.
and thaen I listen to the song in it's whole, and realize how brilliantly it's done.
transiton's from DT growls to the most beautyfull clean vocal parts in 5 seconds.
Mikael is awesome :thumb:

[IvortheEngineDriver]

you have some awesome taste for music :thumb:
and I like your approch of looking at lyrics.

have some rep+ man!

grtz from a fellow Opeth, Porcupine tree, Tool and DT fan ;)

ps.
are you going to any of the PT concerts?
I will try...I live in Arkansas, its hard to get close to anywhere where PT would play. I think their new album comes out in March? So, I'm hoping Opeth tours with them, like they did for In Absentia.

Also, I heard Mike plays guitar on a track for the new PT album...also, Steve ripped off the Face of Melinda riff in Prodigal...in case anyone hadn't seen that.

Thanks though man! I love seeing people who love PT, DT, Tool and Opeth!...those 4 are probably my favorite bands of all time! :)

You rock, dude :thumb:

[IvortheEngineDriver]

Yeah, I love the clean part almost as much as I love how it goes back into the heavy part. That just blew me away.
that middle part reeks of Steve Wilson and you can hear him harmonizing with Mike on the "Ahhh" part...to me, its one of my favorite

I think my favorite soft part in an Opeth song might be on Still Life with The Moor and Godhead's Lament (Thought I could not leave this place on this immient day...god I love that part)

[opeth_oasis]

yeah steven wilson can sing bloody high, check out how high he sings in the backing vocals in harvest

[3rdplanet]

http://www.deadwing.com/

Seeing as the thread I made on this got ignored, a link to a site with spoilers of the new Porcupine Tree album, which has memebers of the Band OPETH appearing on it.

Opeth rox!

[Swiftystrick]

Say hello to Opeth's newest fan!!
Oh god. I can't believe I have been missing out on this band.
I agree with you Flynn, they CERTAINLY do deserve their own genre IMO as well. :thumb:
I love how several Opeth songs began with hell-raising riffs then tranquilize you with beautiful acoustic then raises your sedated body back with a vengeance(prime example, Masters Apprentice.) :evil:
I am in love with this band(is that normal?). I only own Deliverance and Blackwater Park but the entire collection is soon to be in my possession.
phew...I'm hyperventilating.
lol


Oh don't mind this offset post...I had skipped about 30 pages.

[opeth_oasis]

hehe up opeth! nice post, rep++:thumb:

[Det_Nosnip]

New avatar. :) Check it out!

[Tyler]

still life....niiiiiiiiiiiice.

[deadinholywood]

ok, im going to buy one from melbourne, blackwater park looks good.

I got mine from smoke dreams on flinders street but of course thats closed up shop now. Im pretty sure you can order from Metal Mayhem.
Its worth going up to Heartland near the Vic Markets too they sometimes have opeth shirts and they have so much rare vinyl and metal cds its well worth checking out :thumb:

[opeth_oasis]

i meant order one from melbourne lol but yeah thanks

[dUSK]

/is very angry with polls :mad:

I hope you guys have all voted. GO OPETH

[ArcLite]

I voted BWP. Seems like in all these polls they come so close but never win.

[viperfg]

ive never really been an Opeth fan, i liked a couple of songs i heard. But a couple days ago i picked up Blackwater Park and was so surprised by the talent of this band. Now i'm obbsessed with this album. Once i get more money im definetly picking up some more

thanks guys for getting me informed about Opeth :D

[Cain]

My Blackwater Park review didn't make it onto the new CD Reviews site. :angry:

[TrainTakeMeHome]

I've been getting into Opeth for a while now. I liked them before, but I fell completely in love with them after seeing my friends Lamentations DVD recently. Ordered Blackwater Park and Morningrise off the internet, I already have Orchid, and soon will get ****ation and Deliverance.

[ArC]

I will try...I live in Arkansas, its hard to get close to anywhere where PT would play. I think their new album comes out in March? So, I'm hoping Opeth tours with them, like they did for In Absentia.



March 21st :D . PT are definatly my favorite band, followed close by Opeth. I REALLY hope they tour together this year. Yes, Mike does do a guitar part for the new PT album

[dUSK]

My Blackwater Park review didn't make it onto the new CD Reviews site. :angry:

Just re-post it, that's what they advised anyone who's review didn't get copied over to do. :thumb:

[TheSubtleArts]

i like Opeth, BWP is a good album.

[bucket]

My Blackwater Park review didn't make it onto the new CD Reviews site. :angry:

Neither did my Deliverance... :cool:



Well, I'm giving up listening to Opeth for Lent.. so I won't be around this thread too much so... :wave:


Everyone: Who the hell are you?

:upset:

[Grey Incision]

bajeebus, i haven't been here for a while, sorry lads. been busy, listening to When right now, it has rekindled a lost love with MAYH

[Cain]

bajeebus, i haven't been here for a while, sorry lads. been busy, listening to When right now, it has rekindled a lost love with MAYH

Still the only Opeth album I don't own... :upset:

[Cardboard Headgear]

Still Life is the only Opeth I still own...

(My car was stolen with most of my cds in it)

[opeth_oasis]

that sucks cardboard, u insured?

[ArcLite]

That's why I only take about 5 CD's into my car at a time. Just finished learning how to play most of Bleak on my guitar, I'm pretty pumped about that. Certainly needs lots of fine tuning but I have the main body of it down.

[evil ernie]

There are like 4-5 different guitar tracks in this song. I'm in a Opeth cover band and we play Bleak, very cool to play but somtimes I think it fails to deliver (think about that beautiful bass driven riff shortly after the acoustic break).

[ArcLite]

There are like 4-5 different guitar tracks in this song. I'm in a Opeth cover band and we play Bleak, very cool to play but somtimes I think it fails to deliver (think about that beautiful bass driven riff shortly after the acoustic break).

Yeah, its kinda hard playing it as a single guitarist. I just do my best to kind of blend the parts together. But its a bit impossible at some points so a lot of times its just one part.

[BradyEB]

There are like 4-5 different guitar tracks in this song. I'm in a Opeth cover band and we play Bleak, very cool to play but somtimes I think it fails to deliver (think about that beautiful bass driven riff shortly after the acoustic break).

Aye awesome man! What other songs do you guys cover?

[Cardboard Headgear]

Ok, well since we're on the subject of covering Opeth, the band I'm putting together at San Francisco State is most likely going to cover When. Oh man, I can't wait to sing the end of that infront of an audience, it's fun enough just singing it to myself.

[opeth_oasis]

love the beginning growl in when, it really is surprising for first time listeners of the song

[BradyEB]

Ok, well since we're on the subject of covering Opeth, the band I'm putting together at San Francisco State is most likely going to cover When. Oh man, I can't wait to sing the end of that infront of an audience, it's fun enough just singing it to myself.

That would be so mean if you can hit the vocals perfectly.

[opeth_oasis]

im rather good at singing soft opeth such as credence, to bid you farewell, windowpane etc but i find by growls to be too raspy and sound like a coughing whisper

[Grey Incision]

yeah, i can't growl for nuts,

back:)

[Iron Man]

yeah, i can't growl for nuts,

back:)

Either can I...yet

Welcome back :wave:

[Cardboard Headgear]

Ha, am I the only one in this thread that can growl?

I feel so alone, a growling American adrift in a sea of rasping Aussies.

[ArcLite]

I can to an extent, in fact, maybe good enough to be an Opeth cover band singer. I'm no Mike though.

[BradyEB]

I'm a growler but not amazing or anything.

[opeth_oasis]

im not good at growling, but i pull a pretty good soft mike voice, ive recorded a few opeth cover songs

[the2stranger]

Opeth_oasis

could you put some of you recordings in the audio area?
I'm curious

[opeth_oasis]

umm i dont have them on my computer atm but ill see what i can do

[the2stranger]

alright

thanks in advance :thumb:

[evil ernie]

Aye awesome man! What other songs do you guys cover?

Our current set consists of :

Bleak
The Drappery Falls
Hope Leaves
Windowpane
Serenity Painted Death
Demon of the Fall
To Bid You Farewell

Up next are :

Master's Apprentice
A Fair Judgement
Moonlapse Vertigo

Of those I think Windowpane is the hardest to play (I play lead guitar). I suck at finger picking. The interlude before de clean solo in bleak is quite hard to. Our singer can growl quite good, but he is better at singing.

[bahamut_0]

Our current set consists of :

Bleak
The Drappery Falls
Hope Leaves
Windowpane
Serenity Painted Death
Demon of the Fall
To Bid You Farewell

Up next are :

Master's Apprentice
A Fair Judgement
Moonlapse Vertigo

Of those I think Windowpane is the hardest to play (I play lead guitar). I suck at finger picking. The interlude before de clean solo in bleak is quite hard to. Our singer can growl quite good, but he is better at singing.

Very cool setlist, I love Serenity Painted Death.

Me, I can't growl very well. I'm better at doing Mike's older growling. And I can't sing very well at all :(

[clayman112388]

Very cool setlist, I love Serenity Painted Death.

Me, I can't growl very well. I'm better at doing Mike's older growling. And I can't sing very well at all :(

There is a difference between the old and new growl? I always thought it was just better recording.

Serenity Painted death owns :thumb:

White face, haggard grin!
This serenity painted death!

I love that part :D

[Cain]

There is a difference between the old and new growl? I always thought it was just better recording.

Serenity Painted death owns :thumb:

White face, haggard grin!
This serenity painted death!

I love that part :D

There is a difference. Mike has been the model of constant vocal improvement as time goes on. Hell, if the music in Morningrise wasn't so beautiful, I'd say that it was a pretty amateur album. Mikael's earlier growls were raspier, and more high-pitched. They were growls more suited to fast, high-speed death metal rather than the slow progressive, melodic black metal they were playing. By Still Life, however, everything just became head and shoulders above what came before it. This is why I think Steven Wilson is the best thing that ever happened to the group.

[clayman112388]

There is a difference. Mike has been the model of constant vocal improvement as time goes on. Hell, if the music in Morningrise wasn't so beautiful, I'd say that it was a pretty amateur album. Mikael's earlier growls were raspier, and more high-pitched. They were growls more suited to fast, high-speed death metal rather than the slow progressive, melodic black metal they were playing. By Still Life, however, everything just became head and shoulders above what came before it. This is why I think Steven Wilson is the best thing that ever happened to the group.

I guess you are right. But Morningrise is my favorite Opeth album.

[evil ernie]

He certainly has improved over the years, both in growling and singing. Of course, the better production helps a lot, but I think he puts a lot more intensity and emotion in his growls now. Listen to Blackwater Park (the song), he's frightening.

[Cain]

He certainly has improved over the years, both in growling and singing. Of course, the better production helps a lot, but I think he puts a lot more intensity and emotion in his growls now. Listen to Blackwater Park (the song), he's frightening.

I agree whole-heartedly. And to clayman, Morningrise is excellent, believe me: I love that album too. I am not a fan of the production, the drummer, or the vocals. The entire reason to get it for me is for the heavenly guitar and basswork. I love the album a ton even so. But Still Life I just can't praise enough.

[craggyisland]

I haven't seen this posted in here so far, and the search function isn't working, so if you've already seen it I apologise.

From www.opeth.com:

"Opeth will be entering Fashination street studios on March 15 to record their 8th yet untitled opus. The band are currently in rehearsal mode, which is a rare occasion having recorded the last 4 records without rehearsing. The recording will be overseen by the uprising recording mogul Jens Bogren. As of today no names for production duties have surfaced and it looks like the next record will be a band produced effort. Nothing has been decided regarding who's taking care of the mix either so we'll have to keep you wondering.

Opeth and their management have spent the last month meeting the 5 top label candidates for the next Opeth recording contract. The names are still secret but a decision will be made very soon and obviously announced here earlier than anywhere else.

Several Summer festival appearances have been confirmed and will be posted here soon. A Summer tour of the US has also been confirmed and will be posted here soon as well. The matters are still very "hush, hush" so we can't say anything more at this point. What can be said is that the band will make a few low-profile apperances prior to the next release and several full blown headline tours all over the world after the release. Take your rest now!"

This is good news.

[Cain]

I haven't seen this posted in here so far, and the search function isn't working, so if you've already seen it I apologise.

From www.opeth.com:

"Opeth will be entering Fashination street studios on March 15 to record their 8th yet untitled opus. The band are currently in rehearsal mode, which is a rare occasion having recorded the last 4 records without rehearsing. The recording will be overseen by the uprising recording mogul Jens Bogren. As of today no names for production duties have surfaced and it looks like the next record will be a band produced effort. Nothing has been decided regarding who's taking care of the mix either so we'll have to keep you wondering.

Opeth and their management have spent the last month meeting the 5 top label candidates for the next Opeth recording contract. The names are still secret but a decision will be made very soon and obviously announced here earlier than anywhere else.

Several Summer festival appearances have been confirmed and will be posted here soon. A Summer tour of the US has also been confirmed and will be posted here soon as well. The matters are still very "hush, hush" so we can't say anything more at this point. What can be said is that the band will make a few low-profile apperances prior to the next release and several full blown headline tours all over the world after the release. Take your rest now!"

This is good news.

Yes it truly is! I'm quite excited.

[the_shmoo]

The Drapery Falls is a brilliant song, really well put together. I love what Opeth does wither their acoustic interludes, they've influenced my music tremendously. Akerfeldt is an amazing vocalist because of the range of tones he can produce, despite not being "classically trained" or whatever arrogant choir pansies say about 'im. He's also made some of the most clever and memorable riffs in all of metal. And you don't have to play at 20 notes per second to be a good guitarist; Akerfeldt's compositions thoroughly own a good portion of other metal guitarists' stuff.

[Det_Nosnip]

I haven't seen this posted in here so far, and the search function isn't working, so if you've already seen it I apologise.

From www.opeth.com:

"Opeth will be entering Fashination street studios on March 15 to record their 8th yet untitled opus. The band are currently in rehearsal mode, which is a rare occasion having recorded the last 4 records without rehearsing. The recording will be overseen by the uprising recording mogul Jens Bogren. As of today no names for production duties have surfaced and it looks like the next record will be a band produced effort. Nothing has been decided regarding who's taking care of the mix either so we'll have to keep you wondering.

Opeth and their management have spent the last month meeting the 5 top label candidates for the next Opeth recording contract. The names are still secret but a decision will be made very soon and obviously announced here earlier than anywhere else.

Several Summer festival appearances have been confirmed and will be posted here soon. A Summer tour of the US has also been confirmed and will be posted here soon as well. The matters are still very "hush, hush" so we can't say anything more at this point. What can be said is that the band will make a few low-profile apperances prior to the next release and several full blown headline tours all over the world after the release. Take your rest now!"

This is good news.

Huh. There IS a god!

[4130]

OMG, I am so happy its unbeliavable. How long was the start of recording/release wait on all the other albums?

[relliK]

US tour this Summer!!!!

[Grey Incision]

/me gets deck chair out and sits in front of hordern coz they will most likely play there in about a year :)

[opeth_oasis]

omg hordern pavilion????? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lost_profits]

I wonder if theyd come to new zealand. :upset: I doubt it but what's the chances they'd tour aussie again?

[lost_profits]

is there any song that you guys find kind of weak for Opeth standards? I think i would have to say the Amen Corner, that just doesnt appeal to me the way the other songs do.

The Amen Corner doesn't do much for me, neither does Karma.

From Still Life, theres a few patches I think fall below their high standards, and The Funeral Portrait is another that doesn't have that mindblowing goodness songs like When, April Ethereal, Drapery Falls have.

[4130]

I wonder if theyd come to new zealand. :upset: I doubt it but what's the chances they'd tour aussie again?

I'd say there is a pretty high chance of them coming to Australia yet again. :D :D :D

[openmicer2424]

hey opeth fans, i'm looking for the chords for the song closure off of their ****ation CD i believe. I can only find half *** tabs and I can't find the chords that go along with it. anyone know anything? thanks guys!! :)

[openmicer2424]

i cant beleive i cant say that word! this is so gay. "darn-nation" i guess would work

[evil ernie]

I think that the GTP tab for this song is accurate enough. www.mysongbook.com

[bball_1523]

US tour......I'm there!

[opeth_oasis]

just wondering, is lopez okay now, i remember ages ago somebody said he had a bad ankle or something

[Westy]

what are their vocals like

[Riva]

I just have to say, MorningRise is my favourite OPeth album, ever.

[Cain]

I just have to say, MorningRise is my favourite OPeth album, ever.

Whatever you say, Jason. :)

[Deth]

yo, I've just gotten into Opeth. I have BWP and Orchid and both are in my top 5 albums of all time. Question: do the albums morningrise and still life have the vocals of Orchid or BWP? Which should I get next?


*smiles at first post in musicianforums*

[the2stranger]

what are their vocals like

death metal
low growling, it;s awesome
and great clean vocals too :)

yo, I've just gotten into Opeth. I have BWP and Orchid and both are in my top 5 albums of all time. Question: do the albums morningrise and still life have the vocals of Orchid or BWP? Which should I get next?


*smiles at first post in musicianforums*

his vocals now are more BWP style
and as your next album I recommend Still life(i you prefer the newer vocals) or Morningrise ( if you like the older vocals more)

but morbingrise is my favorite Opeth album anyways
the overall sound is so great ,although i don;t really like his growling on the older recordings

ps:
welcome to MX

[Deth]

sounds like morningrise then. I like the orchid vocals more, but I like everything else about BWP more (structure, riffs, acoustic sections, etc.) :thumb:

[i am the robots]

I agree whole-heartedly. And to clayman, Morningrise is excellent, believe me: I love that album too. I am not a fan of the production, the drummer, or the vocals. The entire reason to get it for me is for the heavenly guitar and basswork. I love the album a ton even so. But Still Life I just can't praise enough.

C'mon ripper, you and I both know that Anders Nordin > Martin Mendez. IMO his drumming is the best part of early Opeth.

[evil ernie]

I prefer Mendez to Nordin by far. He's much more versatile and creative.

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted by HeavyRiva
I just have to say, MorningRise is my favourite OPeth album, ever.

morningrise is my fav album too, rep++ for a fellow morningrise lover:thumb:. I do like Anders Nordin's drummer but the only percussion instrument hes better than Lopez at is piano.

p.s speaking of ander's piano playing, i can play the first three pages of silhouette, almost to perfection now. I need the other pages though.

[Cain]

C'mon ripper, you and I both know that Anders Nordin > Martin Mendez. IMO his drumming is the best part of early Opeth.

Martin Mendez is the current bass player. You're thinking of Martin Lopez, who is their current drummer. And c'mon, the drumming on Deliverance is just so great. It pwns any drumming on Morningrise, and besides the production is all off on that album: the snares sound like friggin' gongs with all the reverb put on them, yet the bass drums sound like pillows being smacked. Not cool.

[opeth_oasis]

i wudnt say it was that bad, but true it is no deliverance

[3rdplanet]

The beat at around the 10:00 mark in Deliverance just shows Lopez pwns.

[Deth]

are the songs on d*mnation as good as harvest? Cause that song is awesome.

[Magicaltroll]

does anyone else find opeth songs incredibly hard to play... i find the stuff too technical for me to play...
that guy is such a great guitar player, ive been working on the "black rose immortal" solo, the one around 16 min., man its crazy.
im just starting on solos, so its insane for me

[Iron Man]

does anyone else find opeth songs incredibly hard to play... i find the stuff too technical for me to play...
that guy is such a great guitar player, ive been working on the "black rose immortal" solo, the one around 16 min., man its crazy.
im just starting on solos, so its insane for me

It is very technical, mostly due to Mikael's use of odd, dissonant chords/lines...at least that's my take on things

I'm still far away from playing Opeth on my guitar :(

[Det_Nosnip]

The Amen Corner doesn't do much for me, neither does Karma.

From Still Life, theres a few patches I think fall below their high standards, and The Funeral Portrait is another that doesn't have that mindblowing goodness songs like When, April Ethereal, Drapery Falls have.
Ugh...not at all, I love that song! And Still Life's probably my favorite album. :( Ah, well...different strokes.



C'mon ripper, you and I both know that Anders Nordin > Martin Mendez. IMO his drumming is the best part of early Opeth.
Not at all. Lopez easily blows away Nordin...much smoother groove, a great deal more diverse, and he's got incredible chops when he chooses to use them.

[4130]

A bit of topic, but what does everyone think of Camel. I know Mikael often mentions that he likes them and they have influinced him a lot. I bought Mirage today but haven't had tme to listen to it yet.

[evil ernie]

does anyone else find opeth songs incredibly hard to play... i find the stuff too technical for me to play...
that guy is such a great guitar player, ive been working on the "black rose immortal" solo, the one around 16 min., man its crazy.
im just starting on solos, so its insane for me


I don't agree. There are some tricky parts, but most of the time it is pretty easy. Sometimes you just have to be patient and play it slowly to understand the weird rhytms he's using.

Of course it also depends on your guitar skill level.

[the2stranger]

A bit of topic, but what does everyone think of Camel. I know Mikael often mentions that he likes them and they have influinced him a lot. I bought Mirage today but haven't had tme to listen to it yet.


I ahve one cd of them 'breathless'
but I don't think it's their best work, I still like the album, especially the titlesong.

and I like the use of the flute
I will be checking more stuff of thse guys

[Magicaltroll]

I don't agree. There are some tricky parts, but most of the time it is pretty easy. Sometimes you just have to be patient and play it slowly to understand the weird rhytms he's using.

Of course it also depends on your guitar skill level.
I've been playing guitar for about 5 years now, and im not anywhere near the skill level i should be at. i mean im not bad, im just not that great on the electric guitar. im MUCH better at playing/writing acoustic stuff.

but im trying to get started on solo's, so yeah.

i tryed learning deliverance, i can play most of the parts right. just some of the little riffs he throws in ther sometime are complicated for me. but im practicing at it, so ill get it eventually. i JUST got down the riff in leper affinity around 2:15. it was sort of hard for me to play that up to speed.

[DeathMetalHeart]

I have Deliverance and Blackwater Park. Both amazing.

[Flynn]

Wow this thread is growing :D

I have noticed a strange noise in the song April Ethereal for some time...It's right at around 1:46...It's like a high pitched noise. And you can hear some a few seconds before 1:46 also. Do you guys hear that too?

.....Very eerie.

[the2stranger]

Wow this thread is growing :D

I have noticed a strange noise in the song April Ethereal for some time...It's right at around 1:46...It's like a high pitched noise. And you can hear some a few seconds before 1:46 also. Do you guys hear that too?

.....Very eerie.


yup I hear that too, sounds very electronic like, weird, but it sounds in place, so who cares? :p

[Flynn]

yup I hear that too, sounds very electronic like, weird, but it sounds in place, so who cares? :p

I care.
I just wanted to know if it was a defect in the MP3 download. But it does sound like it has purpose. What kind of intrument is that? I think he strummed the strings at the neck. :thumb:

[the2stranger]

sorry, I can't help you with that, I'm no guitar man
but atleast it's no fault in your mp3

coulnd't it be a E-bow
I've read something about t a bit ago, and that device can make a hellof alot of weird sounds, out of a common guitar

cheers

ps>

welcome back.
haven't seen you on in a hile, were you the person who was busy recording Opeth? or am I wrong?

[Flynn]

sorry, I can't help you with that, I'm no guitar man
but atleast it's no fault in your mp3

coulnd't it be a E-bow
I've read something about t a bit ago, and that device can make a hellof alot of weird sounds, out of a common guitar

cheers

ps>

welcome back.
haven't seen you on in a hile, were you the person who was busy recording Opeth? or am I wrong?



;)

I have been busy recording some stuff with a few guys...Really no direction or genre specified. We just mess around and make music. Mostly Twin leads...a LOT of twin leads actually. I recently bought Kreator - Enemy of God. I like it a lot. Listened to it maybe 14 times in a row when I got it haha. But I have been mostly playing World of Warcraft. Man that game really takes a hold of your life. At any rate...I have been listening to MAYH every morning on the way to work. Never gets old. idc :thumb:








Searching my way to perplexion
In crumbling faith I saw her
Bearing her pain in the wilderness
The gleam of her eyes
In that moment she knew
-`Godhead's Lament`-

[Last Ditch Effort]

Would anyone be able to send me a link to listen to "The Moor"?

[Iron Man]

Would anyone be able to send me a link to listen to "The Moor"?

I might be able to upload it

[Cardboard Headgear]

Wow this thread is growing :D

I have noticed a strange noise in the song April Ethereal for some time...It's right at around 1:46...It's like a high pitched noise. And you can hear some a few seconds before 1:46 also. Do you guys hear that too?

.....Very eerie.
I think it's the acoustic guitar that comes in after the distortion, but all you can hear at that point is the string squeaks from his hand moving.

[Iron Man]

Last Ditch, here's your song

http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3SW127YILWIBM2XN90LK7GLAJ9

Edit: Take note that it's a real big file :p

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Could somebody post one of the best Opeth prog-metal songs. Key word: PROG

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

^^^
The file

[relliK]

Wow this thread is growing :D

I have noticed a strange noise in the song April Ethereal for some time...It's right at around 1:46...It's like a high pitched noise. And you can hear some a few seconds before 1:46 also. Do you guys hear that too?

.....Very eerie.

Ive noticed that too.I remember Mikael mentioned the use of mellotrons on that song.I think he said it in the Deliverance/Damnation diary from their official site.It might be that.

[relliK]

are the songs on d*mnation as good as harvest? Cause that song is awesome.

The songs on Damnation are very different from Harvest.Or any of their previous soft songs for that matter.The songs on it have a bunch of keyboard effects on them.Which is a good thing because it keeps the album interesting all the way through.I'd say they are better than Harvest though.

[Deth]

awesome. on the neverending list it goes, right behind Still life.

[evil ernie]

Would anyone be able to send me a link to listen to "The Moor"?

Enjoy your listening, The Moor is such a great song.

[Cardboard Headgear]

Ive noticed that too.I remember Mikael mentioned the use of mellotrons on that song.I think he said it in the Deliverance/Damnation diary from their official site.It might be that.
April Ethereal isn't on Deliverance or ****ation, it's from about 7 years earlier actually.

I'm pretty sure it's string squeaks.

[XyleM]

Could any of you guys upload or direct me to some Opeth to get started? I think I have heard some stuff off 'blackwater park'(?) If thats the album and I would like to download a few songs before I go spend like $28 on an album.

[relliK]

April Ethereal isn't on Deliverance or ****ation, it's from about 7 years earlier actually.

I'm pretty sure it's string squeaks.

I know that.Its just that Damnation is filled with keyboards and mellotrons.Mikael mentioned that the only previous experimentation with mellotrons was April Ethereal.*goes to read it*

Ok he said the intro to April Ethereal, which is probably Prologue.I guess it is string squeaks.You may have won this time. :upset:

[relliK]

Could any of you guys upload or direct me to some Opeth to get started? I think I have heard some stuff off 'blackwater park'(?) If thats the album and I would like to download a few songs before I go spend like $28 on an album.

Go to the previous page and download The Moor.Mikael considers it the most accurate representation of what the band is about.Its a great mix of soft and heavy.

[the2stranger]

I wonder if Opeth will ever consider geting a fulltime keyboardist.

but I wonder who would fit that spot, Steven Wilson is way too occupied for that.
I liked the session keyboardist on their last tour: per Wiberg, but he plays with, the spiritual baggers, if I'm not mistaken, and deathmetal isn't really his style.

any thoughts?

[Cardboard Headgear]

They asked Per to join as a fulltime member end of last year, but as far as I know he still hasn't given an answer.

[the2stranger]

^
:amaze: I didn't know that, but I would love it if Per joined.

the most piano parts and keyboards/mellatron parts are awesome.
and keys have always been invloved in Opeth, but their drummer used to do all that stuff
( I love silhouette)
but there are more songs with key underneath, It ook me a while before I even noticed.
listen to to bid you farewell, it's just very subtle sounds, but it adds a lot to te music.

but there are som many good key parts
a fair judgment
pattrns in the ivy
by the pain I see in others
the leper affinity
a lot of the dam'nation album
I just love the keypart on 'in my time of need' with the choir pad

[XyleM]

Go to the previous page and download The Moor.Mikael considers it the most accurate representation of what the band is about.Its a great mix of soft and heavy.

:amaze::amaze::amaze:

The accoustic stuff and when he sings clean is awesome!!!

:upset::upset::upset:

Don't like it when he screams :( But I like the instrumental aspect of when its heavy. However it is equally matched by the softer stuff as well. Is his voice/style of singing an acquired taste?

[the2stranger]

:amaze::amaze::amaze:

The accoustic stuff and when he sings clean is awesome!!!

:upset::upset::upset:

Don't like it when he screams :( But I like the instrumental aspect of when its heavy. However it is equally matched by the softer stuff as well. Is his voice/style of singing an acquired taste?


yup, it's aquired, give it a little time, and you'll come to love his growling.

it's amazing once you can enjoy it.

[the2stranger]

any other thoughts about the keyboarding?


oh

and I just finished my my arms your hearse review in sputnik, please check it out, and tell me what you think

thanks

[Det_Nosnip]

:amaze::amaze::amaze:

The accoustic stuff and when he sings clean is awesome!!!

:upset::upset::upset:

Don't like it when he screams :( But I like the instrumental aspect of when its heavy. However it is equally matched by the softer stuff as well. Is his voice/style of singing an acquired taste?

Yeah, that's a pretty standard response. I found that once I researched and realized how much effort+technique goes into being able to do that with your voice (it's NOT just blind screaming), I developed alot more respect for it, and for some reason that transfered into me enjoying it. :lol: I dunno, musician's mind I suppose. But there is something to growling that gets...addicting. Opeth is often a good "gateway" band into death metal for alot of people.

In addition to that, I'm in love with the kinds of contrasts that it creates - "holy ****, THAT came out of the same guy?" :lol: It provides for an incredible range of moods and emotions; Opeth's music is very unique, sometimes I think that Mikael's growls are used to make up for the fact that the band does NOT simply resort to distorted power chords in order to make their songs heavy...they needed something like that in order to create further contrast and heaviness. Just my take. :)

[Iron Man]

Yeah, that's a pretty standard response. I found that once I researched and realized how much effort+technique goes into being able to do that with your voice (it's NOT just blind screaming), I developed alot more respect for it, and for some reason that transfered into me enjoying it. :lol: I dunno, musician's mind I suppose. But there is something to growling that gets...addicting. Opeth is often a good "gateway" band into death metal for alot of people.

In addition to that, I'm in love with the kinds of contrasts that it creates - "holy ****, THAT came out of the same guy?" :lol: It provides for an incredible range of moods and emotions; Opeth's music is very unique, sometimes I think that Mikael's growls are used to make up for the fact that the band does NOT simply resort to distorted power chords in order to make their songs heavy...they needed something like that in order to create further contrast and heaviness. Just my take. :)

One of the reasons I like Opeth as much as I do is because of Mikael's weird chords and time sigs and such. It really interests me as a guitarist :)

The first growling I heard was a sample of Blackwater Park from around 5:15, I heard the growling and I was like "This is ****ing cool!" and I ordered it later that day

[Cain]

Yeah, that's a pretty standard response. I found that once I researched and realized how much effort+technique goes into being able to do that with your voice (it's NOT just blind screaming), I developed alot more respect for it, and for some reason that transfered into me enjoying it. :lol: I dunno, musician's mind I suppose. But there is something to growling that gets...addicting. Opeth is often a good "gateway" band into death metal for alot of people.

In addition to that, I'm in love with the kinds of contrasts that it creates - "holy ****, THAT came out of the same guy?" :lol: It provides for an incredible range of moods and emotions; Opeth's music is very unique, sometimes I think that Mikael's growls are used to make up for the fact that the band does NOT simply resort to distorted power chords in order to make their songs heavy...they needed something like that in order to create further contrast and heaviness. Just my take. :)

That's an excellent take, repped. I agree with everything you've said.

[dracma]

opeth are the must amazing band ever!!! they are like i dunno they cauz me a chill in my bones every time i hear i love em specially TO BID YOUR FAREWELL

[relliK]

:amaze::amaze::amaze:

The accoustic stuff and when he sings clean is awesome!!!

:upset::upset::upset:

Don't like it when he screams :( But I like the instrumental aspect of when its heavy. However it is equally matched by the softer stuff as well. Is his voice/style of singing an acquired taste?

The way I got passed the growls was by reading the lyrics.Its how they grew on me.I guess it helps when you know what he is actually saying.You'll be walking around chanting those lyrics in no time.Once you get into the growls, everything of theres comes easier and is an awesome first time listen.

[whatduffhuck7]

Could any of you guys upload or direct me to some Opeth to get started? I think I have heard some stuff off 'blackwater park'(?) If thats the album and I would like to download a few songs before I go spend like $28 on an album.

15$ tops

[Shadows Rise]

Anyone know the opeth touring schedule for the US this year?

[Darkness]

I have a problem..I heard alot about this band a while back so I downloaded the song Blackwater Park and I love it ALOT. So I went to my cd store and they didn't have any opeth! well they had a section for them but there was no cds..Anyways I want to hear anothe good track off of this cd..Any suggestions?

[bball_1523]

download "bleak" and "The Funeral Portrait" off blackwater park. Also "The Drapery Falls" and "The Leper Affinity" wait you might as well get the whole cd, because it's that freakin good.

[Darkness]

Thanks dude..

[Last Ditch Effort]

Thanks dude..
Don't limit yourself to Black Water Park
It's good, but it is only a tiny taste of what opeth is like.
For a first Opeth Album I'd suggest BWP because its the easiest album to submerge yourself into for most of the public. Although BWP is the most accesible, I'd try Still Life.
Just my opinion though.

[Darkness]

Alright..thanks to you to

[Last Ditch Effort]

Glad to help.

:)

[XyleM]

15$ tops

Unless your from Australia :rolleyes:

[Hive]

I own ****ation, Deliverance, Blackwater Park and the Lamentations DVD.

Opeth is the best. Period.

[Hive]

Morningrise is their best album BTW. I'll be purchasing it within the month.

[hafez]

Opeth are an amazing band. incredibly creative and very skilled
been listening to them non-stop for like a month

[opeth_oasis]

theres a new diary entry on the site, mostly bout a new years eve party though (and the weirdest pic of mike ever)

[Det_Nosnip]

I still don't get the obsession with Morningrise. Still Life+BWP all the way!!

[opeth_oasis]

morningrise is addictive, but for a while you may get sick of it. I never get sick of still life, but morningrise and bwp are my favourite albums. BTW, do you think the lineup of Opeth is the best ever? I mean if you had the chance would you change the lineup, say put johan or anders back in? I feel the lineup to be perfect how it is, it would be cool to have anders as a full time piano player though

[magicbus]

To CARMEN77 if he shows up here, check out Orchid.

[Deth]

I got Orchid about a week ago and I love it. I never thought I'd be able to listen to a 3 minute piano piece and love every second of it. :)

[Det_Nosnip]

morningrise is addictive, but for a while you may get sick of it. I never get sick of still life, but morningrise and bwp are my favourite albums. BTW, do you think the lineup of Opeth is the best ever? I mean if you had the chance would you change the lineup, say put johan or anders back in? I feel the lineup to be perfect how it is, it would be cool to have anders as a full time piano player though

I'd never change the lineup (sans adding members). IMO, the band is at its peak right now, the Martins are both excellent musicians, alot more well-rounded and diverse than johan and anders. In fact, that's a big part of why I hardly find myself listening to the first few albums...it's just not the same without them, I feel that Lopez and Mendez better embody the kind of band that Opeth is. IMO, there could never have been a song like "Face of Melinda" or an album like Dam nation without them.

[Det_Nosnip]

I got Orchid about a week ago and I love it. I never thought I'd be able to listen to a 3 minute piano piece and love every second of it. :)

Hah...try "Star Crossed" by Arcturus. Best. Piano. Intro. EVER!!!

[RouteOne]

Any new info on their new album????

[nicksilver101]

I just started to get into opeth, the more I listen the more they amaze me. They can pull off a song like hope leaves, which I really like, and then they have brutal, wicked death metal songs.

Is there any other songs people can suggest the are like hope leaves by them

[BradyEB]

the Whole ****ation album, Credence, Benighted and Harvest.

[opeth_oasis]

you might also like to bid you farewell

[willis2441]

can you guys recommend me some good opeth albums?thx much appriciated

[opeth_oasis]

for a new opeth listener i recommend blackwater park, simply because it is pretty much what opeth is all about. Still life is another great album to get into opeth.

[4130]

Well I dont know. Personally the way I got into Opeth:

I was in a heavy mood and I wanted to listen to something brutal, so I asked my friend what's a good death metal band he instantly said Opeth. So from hearing much praise about them and now this reccomendation I decided to go to the record store and get a CD.

So 30mins later I come hope wth Damnation. It wasn't at all what I was expecting but it was an amazing album. I listened to it twice through and then thought "man, these guys kick some serious ***"

In 30mins I come home from the record store with Deliverance. Listen to that twice through and absolutely loved it. In another 30 minutes I get home with Blackwater Park, and that absolutely blew me away.

Fast forward about 2-3 weeks, and I owned the rest of the albums, and the DVD. These CDs have been on constant replay for the last 6 months. Seriously, I cannot believe that I had not listened to these guys before.

[evil ernie]

Yeah that dude should have told you that Dammnation was not a death metal album. It's good that you have enjoyed it anyway though, it's a brillant album.

[whatduffhuck7]

MOS DEF the best opeth song with out a dought is 'the leper affinity'
anybody agree?

[BradyEB]

Ive got the dvd but not the studio album of ****ation. Do you guys think its worth buying if i own the dvd?

[ArC]

MOS DEF the best opeth song with out a dought is 'the leper affinity'
anybody agree?

I this the Drapery Falls is their best. Haunting guitar riffs, perfect transitions, and a great mix of clean and growling vocals. Amazing

[Det_Nosnip]

I keep coming back to "Godhead's Lament." I dunno, though..."best Opeth song"? Maybe I could pick a "best Opeth song for x mood," but best overall would be pretty **** near impossible. I mean, you CAN'T compare a song like Demon in the Fall to Harvest or Death Whispered a Lullaby, because they're completely different songs.

[Cain]

I keep coming back to "Godhead's Lament." I dunno, though..."best Opeth song"? Maybe I could pick a "best Opeth song for x mood," but best overall would be pretty **** near impossible. I mean, you CAN'T compare a song like Demon in the Fall to Harvest or Death Whispered a Lullaby, because they're completely different songs.

"Bleak" is my favorite all-around, with "The Moor" probably at a tie. "Blackwater Park" best for the heaviest. "Benighted" for best acoustic guitar. "Black Rose Immortal," "Windowpane," and "A Fair Judgement" for the most complex, cool melodies and harmonic content.

[relliK]

The Moor all the way for me.With The Leper Affinity coming in second.

[Dancin' Man]

Dark Suns = Most similar band to Opeth in terms of genre I've ever heard. Every should check them out if they can be found.