Opeth

[Knifeboy]

I don't think you should blow Lopez out of proportion. He's really good, but not as good as most Opeth fans think of him being.

He wasn't talking about Lopez, he was talking about the drummer for Porcupine Tree

[Flynn]

I like Lopez's work on My Arms, Your Hearse the most I think. His display of technicality throughout the album is superb.

[vashts80]

Honestly, I think Lopez's best work is on D&D. The whole Damnation album, and Deliverance's title track. They win.

[Flynn]

I don't know...the drums on Karma alone seem to be more advanced then anything on Deliverance and Damnation combined to me.

[Knifeboy]

Some of the grooves on Windowpane are quite advanced.. And Deliverance (the song) has some of my favorite drum parts..
I haven't listened much to My Arms, Your Hearse though, since I don't own it, so I wouldn't know

[Flynn]

It's definitely worth owning if you like Opeth. I think the album has some of their best work in all areas.

[Shattered_Future]

I love his drums on Damnation...he uses a rather minimalist kit, and manages to craft some beautiful drum lines out of them...

[Crysiss]

I agree with Shattered.

np. Closure:D

[guitrguy]

Some of the grooves on Windowpane are quite advanced.. And Deliverance (the song) has some of my favorite drum parts..
I haven't listened much to My Arms, Your Hearse though, since I don't own it, so I wouldn't know
Not to mention Lopez's beats are very original.

[Shattered_Future]

I agree with Shattered.

np. Closure:D

Case in point.

[Crysiss]

You were the one that made me want to listen to that track.

[Shattered_Future]

Well, I feel happy that I did now. :p

[Hive]

Round 3 of my question:
Hey, I tried this a few months ago and got like 2 responses before I was drowned out in the usual "official thread" mindless banter, but here goes...

I recently got my copy of Lamentations signed by Opeth at Scrape Records in Vancouver. It's super cool, but I can't tell whos signature is whos! Does anyone else have anything signed by Opeth that they can compare this to to help me out? Can anyone identify these scribbles?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...l/c2417ecb.jpg

I'm pretty sure the bottom right is Per Wiberg, but beyond that I'm lost!

[Shattered_Future]

Oops! My image for this link is no longer here...

[Thor]

It's definitely worth owning if you like Opeth. I think the album has some of their best work in all areas.
Agreed. You haven't fully experienced the band until you've heard every song they have.

[Crysiss]

Has anyone heard Steel?

Or I Hate Hip-Hop:p

[Slapping Penguin]

I am seeing Opeth on Tuesday :D, I want make sure I have the full experience by knowing ever song there. Now I have ever Opeth album buts its hard to get to everthing esepically when we all know the length of Opeth tracks. Can people tell me songs they are really likely to play?

PS: Does anyone else Closure just cut off kinda at the end?

[Killtacular]

PS: Does anyone else Closure just cut off kinda at the end?
Mine does that, as I'm sure everyone else's does, too. And I really, really don't know why. I guess Mr. Wilson had a bit too much nose candy that day.

[G_Mac07]

I am seeing Opeth on Tuesday :D, I want make sure I have the full experience by knowing ever song there. Now I have ever Opeth album buts its hard to get to everthing esepically when we all know the length of Opeth tracks. Can people tell me songs they are really likely to play?

PS: Does anyone else Closure just cut off kinda at the end?

This is from the Perth Show. Post taken from somebody on another forum.

Ghost of Perdition
White Cluster
The Amen Corner
The Baying of the Hounds
Closure (w/ extended Improv)
Under a Weeping Moon
*power goes out*
Martin Axenrot drum solo
*power back in*
Under a Weeping Moon continued
The Grand Conjuration
The Leper Affinity
-------
Deliverance

Obviously the drum solo and power outage weren't part of the show proper but was due to the stupid venue and their faulty fuses. There was a power outage just before Eternal were due to go on as well, which caused a delay. Mikael handled it all like a ****ing champ though.

[The Sandman]

Oh, how I despise The Forum.

:upset:

I need a fake id sooo bad.

[<mIkE>]

damn wish i could see opeth or tool live it would make my life...

[Thor]

I am seeing Opeth on Tuesday :D, I want make sure I have the full experience by knowing ever song there. Now I have ever Opeth album buts its hard to get to everthing esepically when we all know the length of Opeth tracks. Can people tell me songs they are really likely to play?

PS: Does anyone else Closure just cut off kinda at the end?
They'll probably play "Ghost of Perdition" and "The Grand Conjuration" because they need to promote the new album. They'll also probably play something off of Deliverance (probably the title track) and that's about all I can guarantee you.

Just be prepared for an awesome time! :thumb:

[Jude]

The setlist Gmac posted is basically the one they've been playing this whole tour, they probably won't deviate too much from that.

[Thor]

Well then there you go. I haven't seen them yet, but I've seen some videos and I know that they'll play popular songs.

[Vaper]

just got back from opeth in melb and damn it was good , only dissapointment was they didnt play demon and there was no dark tranquility support. Support band was a aussie band named "the eternal" oh and i was in a cue for about 5hours besides that it was awesome, setlist i think was like this.
Ghost of Perdition
White Cluster
The Amen Corner
The Baying of the Hounds
Closure
Under the Weeping Moon
The Grand Conjuration
Deliverance

[Thor]

just got back from opeth in melb and damn it was good , only dissapointment was they didnt play demon and there was no dark tranquility support. Support band was a aussie band named "the eternal" oh and i was in a cue for about 5hours besides that it was awesome, setlist i think was like this.
Ghost of Perdition
White Cluster
The Amen Corner
The Baying of the Hounds
Closure
Under a Weeping Moon
The Grand Conjuration
Deliverance
WHAT?! No Blackwater Park? WEEEEAKKK!

[Vaper]

WHAT?! No Blackwater Park? WEEEEAKKK!

at the end of the show mikael said tommorows(todays) setlis would be somewhat different

[Jude]

BWP hasn't been in the setlist this tour...

[Thor]

BWP hasn't been in the setlist this tour...
Well that's a shame, seeing as how The Leper Affinity and Bleak are two of my favorite Opeth songs.

[Shattered_Future]

I think everybody thought that you meant they didn't play BWP the song, Thor. :p

I would have rather gotten The Leper Affinity, but The Drapery Falls still kicked some ***.

[Toaster]

I am seeing Opeth on Tuesday :D, I want make sure I have the full experience by knowing ever song there. Now I have ever Opeth album buts its hard to get to everthing esepically when we all know the length of Opeth tracks. Can people tell me songs they are really likely to play?

PS: Does anyone else Closure just cut off kinda at the end?

You might say that ending lacks...closure...

rofl

[Vaper]

oops forgot leper affinity

Ghost of Perdition
White Cluster
The Amen Corner
The Baying of the Hounds
Closure
the leper affinity
Under a Weeping Moon
The Grand Conjuration
Deliverance

the grand conjuration i dont listen to much but live it was incredible , sounded like a totally diff song.

[AA-12]

Thank god for no DT :p

That looks like a good show, just needs some DoTF, When, April Ethereal, and The Drapery Falls.

[penelope weird hands]

I saw them at Perth on the 20th.
It was amazing.
Why are so many metalheads over 6'4 though? ;/
I was stuck behind some giants so I couldn't see much.
Still, it was fvcking incredible.

The aforementioned power outage was bollocks.
Mikael was quite angry.
Which was a good thing because the songs after that he screamed like satan wishes he could scream.
He did take it well, though.

Example:
*power comes on finally*

"Well.. that was fun."
*crowd boos*
"No, no.. it was fun... and we planned that for an Axenrot solo"

heh.

They were note perfect and were all champs with the crowd.
Favourite song was The Leper Affinity, which they didn't play too fast, like on the Lamentations DVD, so it was sweet.
But.,. Deliverance owned everything x1000 that they played that night.
It was like the only song they came into themselves.
Good gig allround.

[guitrguy]

Did they play geuss the guitar riff before they played Deliverance?

[Stoo]

Did they play geuss the guitar riff before they played Deliverance?
I don't think it's something that he does that often.

[Tyr]

On Tuesday I'm going to buy tickets to the Metaltown festival in Gothenburg. Soon, really soon, I will finally get to see Opeth live...

[guitrguy]

On Tuesday I'm going to buy tickets to the Metaltown festival in Gothenburg. Soon, really soon, I will finally get to see Opeth live...
Good for you. They put on such an amazing show.

[EverytimeIBodom]

I'm doing a project on Mikeal for my guitar class, and we get to use a 2 minute sound bite to show off the guitarist. What song should I use? I can't really decide.

[i am the robots]

Benighted.

[Jude]

Or the solos on White Cluster...I'm pretty sure it's Mike and Peter alternating right?

[Darkness]

It looked like Mikael did most of it when I saw it live.

[Crysiss]

I would pick something fairly tame if it were for school:) just my opinion.

[guitrguy]

I would pick something fairly tame if it were for school:) just my opinion.
I would chose something off Damnation, so people will be more open to listening to it.

[Flynn]

I was just messing around with the rythm section from Epilogue and recorded my own solo to it. If anyone wants to hear it, my MSN is
Puritan77@hotmail.com

[Det_Nosnip]

Favourite song was The Leper Affinity, which they didn't play too fast, like on the Lamentations DVD, so it was sweet.


I liked the sped up version. :( Especially since they still managed to keep everything clean and tight...lent it a more sense of urgency and unpredictability.

[Det_Nosnip]

I'm doing a project on Mikeal for my guitar class, and we get to use a 2 minute sound bite to show off the guitarist. What song should I use? I can't really decide.

Windowpane.

[Crysiss]

I liked the slower one.

The one on Lamentations was the first one I heard though.

[Thor]

It looked like Mikael did most of it when I saw it live.
I've seen a video of it and he did all of the solos on it.

Too bad they don't play The Moor instead.

[Stoo]

Or Serenity Painted Death...

[Shattered_Future]

I'm doing a project on Mikeal for my guitar class, and we get to use a 2 minute sound bite to show off the guitarist. What song should I use? I can't really decide.

Some of his acoustic work. I personally think the riff in Closure right before the distortion kicks in works rather well.

[Flynn]

Here's my Epilogue solo.

http://download.yousendit.com/2DB7AE0A16BA255D

[Stoo]

Good Stuff. :cool:

[Tyr]

Yeah, really good stuff :thumb:

[Flynn]

thanks :)

[Darkness]

Here's my Epilogue solo.

http://download.yousendit.com/2DB7AE0A16BA255D
OMFG craporz!



/will post real thoughts after download

[Flynn]

OMFG craporz!



/will post real thoughts after download


You bastard

[Darkness]

Jesus Todd, the solo was just fine and Y O U ruined it...way to go, loser. I hope you rot in hell.

[Flynn]

:confused:

[Darkness]

:lol: That's what you said on MSN. I told you I actually think it's pretty good, now stop fishing for compliments. :evil:

[Flynn]

lol



http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=2DB7AE0A16BA255D

[Thor]

Here's my Epilogue solo.

http://download.yousendit.com/2DB7AE0A16BA255D
Excellent job, it sounds great! :thumb:

[Flynn]

Thanks :) Now I need to find out why some parts distort, mainly the outro.

[Thor]

Are you going to be doing any other Opeth songs in the future?

[Flynn]

Okay. Here's my finished version of Epilogue. Enjoy!

http://download.yousendit.com/2781099A39173736

[BeaZ]

I saw Opeth last night in melbourne and it was amazing, they sound exactly the same live as on the album. I'm actually considering seeing them again tonight, they're playing 2 shows.

[guitrguy]

I would.

[Det_Nosnip]

Hell yeah.

[Vaper]

Did they play geuss the guitar riff before they played Deliverance?

yep :thumb:

[Vaper]

I saw Opeth last night in melbourne and it was amazing, they sound exactly the same live as on the album. I'm actually considering seeing them again tonight, they're playing 2 shows.

thinking the same , just cant be bothered (hangover) getting up to get the tickets

[MidnightRider]

Okay. Here's my finished version of Epilogue. Enjoy!

http://download.yousendit.com/2781099A39173736

Sweet man, that sounds pretty good.

Vaper your avatar is great.

[Jude]

That was a pretty sweet version. :thumb: Although I don't like your guitar tone too much.

[Crysiss]

Sweet man, that sounds pretty good.

Vaper your avatar is great.

I thought so too

I thought so too

[Thor]

I thought so too

I thought so too
Why say that twice?

[UpperDecker]

"What woul they say if i would stay, noone would know. ooooooohhhhhhoooooo."

[Knifeboy]

Why say that twice?

The first line was reffering to the first underlined sentence.. and the second bold line was reffering to the second bold sentence

[Jude]

"What woul they say if i was gay, noone would know. hooooooooomoooooooo."
123

[Crysiss]

The first line was reffering to the first underlined sentence.. and the second bold line was reffering to the second bold sentence

Hes got it:D

[Darkness]

"What woul they say if i would stay, noone would know. ooooooohhhhhhoooooo."
Somebody stole my job. :upset: Pissing off the Godhead fanboys...

[Crysiss]

I like the Mikael sings that part alot:)

[Thor]

HORRRRAYYYYY!!!! My Opeth DVD just came!!!!!!!

...and it's just as I'd expected. Fantastic.

[Crysiss]

Lamentations is awesome. Look for when Mikael is trying to look all emotional singing with his eyes closed and he keeps peeking at the fretboard lol.

[Thor]

I noticed that a few times and chuckled a bit. While they don't really move around a whole lot, they make up for it with their musical greatness.

The Leper Affinity live is an orgasm-fest.
...and Mendez's headbanging is great!

[Crysiss]

He gets teased for his horizontal headbang:lol: Its not on the DVD though, Watch the documentary as well:thumb:

[Jude]

He gets teased for his horizontal headbang:lol: Its not on the DVD though, Watch the d0cumentary as well:thumb:
Mike always calls him a cnt for headbanging wrong :lol:

[Crysiss]

yea thats what i was talking about :lol:

[Flynn]

Alright guys, this version of Ending Credits took about an hour to put together thanks to Dunkelheit for drums. :)


http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0QFR2TIW393FX38AQSY043T8QK

[eighty d]

You skipped a measure in the beginning. Instead of coming in with the lead at the beginning of a phrase you came in right after the B7 chord.

Then in the lead part, in the pickup to the third measure of the phrase you play an F# instead of a D. Still sounds fine, just different.

Other than that it was good. A little sloppy overall, but I can understand that from throwing it together in an hour.

I nitpick

[Thor]

Alright guys, this version of Ending Credits took about an hour to put together thanks to Dunkelheit for drums. :)


http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0QFR2TIW393FX38AQSY043T8QK
A most excellent job. :thumb:

I watched about half of the documentary. Watching Lopez was a total treat.

...and "A Fair Judgement" live is absolutely mind-blowing.

[Flynn]

You skipped a measure in the beginning. Instead of coming in with the lead at the beginning of a phrase you came in right after the B7 chord.

Then in the lead part, in the pickup to the third measure of the phrase you play an F# instead of a D. Still sounds fine, just different.

Other than that it was good. A little sloppy overall, but I can understand that from throwing it together in an hour.

I nitpick

It's the way the drums fade in, I did my own thing.

[RustedPieces]

Sounds pretty good.

[Darkness]

Alright guys, this version of Ending Credits took about an hour to put together thanks to Dunkelheit for drums. :)


http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0QFR2TIW393FX38AQSY043T8QK
Good job. :thumb:


I can't take credit for the drums, I stole em off of someone elses guitar pro tab. :evil:

[UpperDecker]

I think its time for Opeth to make a really dark cd. More so than My Arms Your Hearse. Just a thought. I know what i'm trying to say but its hard to explain.

[Happy]

Like recorded in the dark?

:p
Nah, I agree.

[UpperDecker]

Like recorded in the dark?

:p
Nah, I agree.


Lol no, but you know, some music that just pushes they're extremes even further.

[Knifeboy]

I think Mikael wanted Ghost Reveries to be a really dark album, and I believe he succeeded to some degree... The problem is though, part of what makes some of the earlier Opeth albums so dark and atmospheric, is the fact that the production is so bad/muddy.. And I think Mikael doesn't want to move away from the crystal clear production they've had since blackwater park

[Duman]

Alright guys, this version of Ending Credits took about an hour to put together thanks to Dunkelheit for drums. :)


http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0QFR2TIW393FX38AQSY043T8QK

Great job :)

[UpperDecker]

I think Mikael wanted Ghost Reveries to be a really dark album, and I believe he succeeded to some degree... The problem is though, part of what makes some of the earlier Opeth albums so dark and atmospheric, is the fact that the production is so bad/muddy.. And I think Mikael doesn't want to move away from the crystal clear production they've had since blackwater park

When i listen to Ghost Reveries it comes across to me as more of a happier kind of album. I guess its cause of the great production/bright keyboards.

[Stoo]

When i listen to Ghost Reveries it comes across to me as more of a happier kind of album. I guess its cause of the great production/bright keyboards.
Yeah, I agree.

It's all to do with the production.

[Jude]

I don't think bad production has anything to do with how dark the albums sound. BWP has excellent production and is probably the darkest album (IMO). Morningrise on the other hand has crap production but is the least dark album, atmosphere wise (again, IMO).

[Tyr]

I think production does have something to do with darkness. If you'd ask me, I'd say that MAYH is the darkest album, and the production's not tiptop.

[Thor]

As far as evil goes, Morningrise is pretty dark, too. Their older albums had a more sinister feel than their newer releases, but their production has improved immensely. I like both old and new Opeth, and I can't decide which one that I like more.

NP - Opeth - Advent

[Crysiss]

It is a hard decision. But I kinda like the part where they made the transition from old opeth to new opeth.

Like MAYH. Still Life is awesome as well. It was my least favorite album a month ago:D

[Thor]

I think that MAYH was still old Opeth. They didn't make a real drastic change until Blackwater Park, methinks. And that's my favorite album by them, in case you've missed my constant raving about it before. :thumb:

To those of you who heard the interview posts before, did Mikael say if they were making another DVD or did he not? I can't remember.

[Crysiss]

IF he was making another DVD, He would have to get the copyrights to the older albums if he was going to play the older ones.

It'd be pretty weird showcasing just one album in a DVD.


I think there was a change in MAYH, listen to Morningrise and Orchid, Mikael screams. Mikael starts to growl in MAYH and theres less leads as well.

[Thor]

IF he was making another DVD, He would have to get the copyrights to the older albums if he was going to play the older ones.

It'd be pretty weird showcasing just one album in a DVD.


I think there was a change in MAYH, listen to Morningrise and Orchid, Mikael screams. Mikael starts to growl in MAYH and theres less leads as well.
I bet he'd get the copyrights if he needed to seeing as how he's the principle songwriter for the band.

Sure, there's less leads and the screams have changed, but every band changes over time. The first drastic change was with BWP, with which they had superb production and a new musical style.

[Shadius]

I think that MAYH was still old Opeth. They didn't make a real drastic change until Blackwater Park, methinks. And that's my favorite album by them, in case you've missed my constant raving about it before. :thumb:


Nah, Opeth changed EVERYTHING with My Arms, Your Hearse. They became more dissonant and darker, and moved away from the harmonised gothenburgish sound and came into their own even more. They still use many of the traits today that they first began to use in MAYH.

Blackwater Park didn't change style *that* much from Still Life. The biggest change is Morningrise to MAYH by far.

or Deliverance to Damnation if you're being picky, but that dosn't really count.

I even think there's a fair bit in common between MAYH and Blackwater park, in style.

[Crysiss]

Nah, Opeth changed EVERYTHING with My Arms, Your Hearse. They became more dissonant and darker, and moved away from the harmonised gothenburgish sound and came into their own even more. They still use many of the traits today that they first began to use in MAYH.

Blackwater Park didn't change style *that* much from Still Life. The biggest change is Morningrise to MAYH by far.

or Deliverance to Damnation if you're being picky, but that dosn't really count.

Agreed. I dont really see much of a change from SL to BWP as how morningrise went to MAYH.

[Thor]

Nah, Opeth changed EVERYTHING with My Arms, Your Hearse. They became more dissonant and darker, and moved away from the harmonised gothenburgish sound and came into their own even more. They still use many of the traits today that they first began to use in MAYH.

Blackwater Park didn't change style *that* much from Still Life. The biggest change is Morningrise to MAYH by far.

or Deliverance to Damnation if you're being picky, but that dosn't really count.

I even think there's a fair bit in common between MAYH and Blackwater park, in style.
Deliverance and Damnation doesn't count. :p

I guess you're right about MAYH being the biggest change. It's my least favorite album by them, so I can't say that I listen to it that often.

[Jude]

Shadius = yes.

The biggest drastic changes in Opeth's style were from MR to MAYH - the two albums almost sound like they're by different bands - and from Deliverance to Ghost Reveries. One could say Damnation is a sort of transition between Deliverance and GR. The influence of keyboards was a major stylistic change; the other changes since MAYH had mostly been gradual (unless you count the change from crappy production on Still Life to excellent production on BWP, but aside from that the two albums are nearly the same in terms of musical style).

[Shadius]

Deliverance and Damnation doesn't count. :p

I guess you're right about MAYH being the biggest change. It's my least favorite album by them, so I can't say that I listen to it that often.

Go out, at night, for a walk, and while avoiding getting mugged, play that album.

It really is amazing. I'm not into tons and tons of heavy music like a lot of Opeth fans are, and MAHY still really appeals to me, it has this amazing atmosphere. I just love it.

[Crysiss]

Shadius = yes.

The biggest drastic changes in Opeth's style were from MR to MAYH - the two albums almost sound like they're by different bands - and from Deliverance to Ghost Reveries. One could say Damnation is a sort of transition between Deliverance and GR. The influence of keyboards was a major stylistic change; the other changes since MAYH had mostly been gradual (unless you count the change from crappy production on Still Life to excellent production on BWP, but aside from that the two albums are nearly the same in terms of musical style).

Thats what I thought as well.

<---Doesnt count production quality as a change.

[Thor]

Plus, Steven Wilson made quite an impact on Opeth's style in the more modern days.

While MR and MAYH are different, I wouldn't go so far to say that they sound like they're from different bands. Had I have not heard one of the albums and someone was playing it, I would be able to recognize that it was Opeth.

MR is simply fantastic. I just finished Black Rose Immortal and now To Bid You Farewell just came on, which is one of my favorite songs ever. :)

[Crysiss]

Also, MAYH had more flow to it than the previous albums.

BRI is amazing, I like the part where he whispers "Black Rose Immortal".

[Shadius]

While MR and MAYH are different, I wouldn't go so far to say that they sound like they're from different bands. Had I have not heard one of the albums and someone was playing it, I would be able to recognize that it was Opeth.

Hmmm.. Even though his growling is much deeper and sounds very different?

And the songs became darker and more chord based and dissonant rather than being melodic. And the fact that guitar harmonies were pretty much dropped entirely? And the song structures being totally different?

The only link in terms of style is possibly Mikaels clean voice being recognised, or the fact that they still use the clean/heavy thing... which, a lot of bands do.

Retrospect is a wonderful thing.

[Jude]

Pretty much everything changed between MR and MAYH, aside from the basic "long songs that switch between death metal and classical acoustic" premise. The guitar playing went from Gothenberg style with lots of guitar harmonies to a heavier, dissonant style...the drumming and bass playing styles changed pretty much completely (due of course to the loss of De Farfalla and Nordin) and the clean vocals took on a larger part while the growling style became much deeper. Not to mention MAYH took the first steps towards the "actual song structure" direction as opposed to just "play a riff for a while then go on to another and never replay the first" style of the first two albums.

[Crysiss]

Pretty much everything changed between MR and MAYH, aside from the basic "long songs that switch between death metal and classical acoustic" premise. The guitar playing went from Gothenberg style with lots of guitar harmonies to a heavier, dissonant style...the drumming and bass playing styles changed pretty much completely (due of course to the loss of De Farfalla and Nordin) and the clean vocals took on a larger part while the growling style became much deeper. Not to mention MAYH took the first steps towards the "actual song structure" direction as opposed to just "play a riff for a while then go on to another and never replay the first" style of the first two albums.

Thats what I didnt really like about the first two albums.

[Shadius]

Thats what I didnt really like about the first two albums.

Me too, but some people seem to love it.

[Crysiss]

Agreed.

np. Into the frost of winter

[Jude]

Me too, but some people seem to love it.
Well, I love Morningrise, but it's in spite of that, not because of it.

[Thor]

Pretty much everything changed between MR and MAYH, aside from the basic "long songs that switch between death metal and classical acoustic" premise. The guitar playing went from Gothenberg style with lots of guitar harmonies to a heavier, dissonant style...the drumming and bass playing styles changed pretty much completely (due of course to the loss of De Farfalla and Nordin) and the clean vocals took on a larger part while the growling style became much deeper. Not to mention MAYH took the first steps towards the "actual song structure" direction as opposed to just "play a riff for a while then go on to another and never replay the first" style of the first two albums.
It's true, the original songs didn't have as much structure as the new ones did, but I don't see much of a problem with that. They were younger and not as experienced musicians. They've all become alot better and know much more about how to write a song that would keep a listnener hooked alot more.

New Opeth is alot easier on the ears than the older material was. It's less confusing if you ask me. But don't get me wrong, the older material is still fantastic stuff. They've just gotten better with time.

[guitrguy]

Thats what I didnt really like about the first two albums.
I honetsly like that because is keeps the songs fresh, and say alot about their creativity, but all that is just my opinion.

[Thor]

I honetsly like that because is keeps the songs fresh, and say alot about their creativity, but all that is just my opinion.
It keeps them fresh, but at some points they don't seem like songs. At times it sounds like just a bunch of separate riffs piled together.

I still like it though, but the structure a bit slack.

[guitrguy]

It keeps them fresh, but at some points they don't seem like songs. At times it sounds like just a bunch of separate riffs piled together.

I still like it though, but the structure a bit slack.
For some reason I don't get that sense.

[Thor]

For some reason I don't get that sense.
I don't get it on most of their songs, but there are a few times on Orchid and Morningrise where the song does a total 360 on me and it confuses me a bit. It doesn't anymore because I know the songs very well, but for a first time listener I could see them thinking that the songs could be a bit random at times.

[guitrguy]

I don't get it on most of their songs, but there are a few times on Orchid and Morningrise where the song does a total 360 on me and it confuses me a bit. It doesn't anymore because I know the songs very well, but for a first time listener I could see them thinking that the songs could be a bit random at times.
I get what you're saying now, basically that they take a complete change in the feel and sound in the middle of the song.

[Thor]

Yeah, now you're getting what I'm saying. Do you agree, or do you just now comprehend what I was trying to tell you?

[Futuro]

Finally got my lamentations DVD last week. :D I was impressed. They play great live.

[Thor]

Finally got my lamentations DVD last week. :D I was impressed. They play great live.
Yeah I just got mine yesterday and I've been watching it alot.

While the performance is fan-freakin-tastic, I still wish there were older songs on there. But you can't have everything.

[Jude]

Finally got my lamentations DVD last week. :D I was impressed. They play great live.
The only problem is they really don't change anything from on the albums...they just play the songs exactly as recorded. I guess now with Per they rearrange things for keyboards, but not on the DVD.

[Crysiss]

It's true, the original songs didn't have as much structure as the new ones did, but I don't see much of a problem with that. They were younger and not as experienced musicians. They've all become alot better and know much more about how to write a song that would keep a listnener hooked alot more.

New Opeth is alot easier on the ears than the older material was. It's less confusing if you ask me. But don't get me wrong, the older material is still fantastic stuff. They've just gotten better with time.

I still love Morningrise and Orchid alot, Its just that I prefer to have a flow to the song. And yes, I know about the points you've made.

and congrats on the DVD coming in:thumb:

I think that it was Thor that I was discussing with about the DVD.

[guitrguy]

Yeah, now you're getting what I'm saying. Do you agree, or do you just now comprehend what I was trying to tell you?
I personally love there early stuff because of that fact, so no I don't agree but comprehend what you are saying:thumb: .

[Crysiss]

Yeah I just got mine yesterday and I've been watching it alot.

While the performance is fan-freakin-tastic, I still wish there were older songs on there. But you can't have everything.

I know what you mean. For awhile I was wondering why there wasnt the older stuff on there til I realized they had different labels.

[Shadius]

I know what you mean. For awhile I was wondering why there wasnt the older stuff on there til I realized they had different labels.

Apparently they played Demon of the Fall as an encore at the show, but it obviously wasn't put on the DVD.

*sigh*

[Det_Nosnip]

Label reasons. Opeth's label at the time didn't own the rights to any of their pre BWP stuff.

[Jude]

Which is funny because without knowing that and watching the DVD, it looks like they just dicked the crowd despite all the "Demon" chants :lol:

[Toaster]

Label reasons. Opeth's label at the time didn't own the rights to any of their pre BWP stuff.

Really? Man, I always thought they just dicked the crowd, like you^ said. I feel a bit better about it now.

[UpperDecker]

Which one's better, My Arms, Your Hearse or Blackwaterpark? I actually sat here for like 5 minutes debating and I can't pick. They both have so much good songs on them.

[Grey Incision]

MAYH in personal opinion.

Last night was a slight let down for me setlist wise, (Sydney Opeth show)

Ghost of perdition
White cluster
The amen corner
The baying of the hounds
Closure
Under the weeping moon
The grand conjuration
The Leper affinity

I would've prefered to see some tracks like

Moonlapse Vertigo
April Ethereal
Bleak
Advent
Atonement
Demon of the fall
windowpane

But that's just my preference, it was a decent show though:).

[Deth]

No Demon of the Fall?

Which one's better, My Arms, Your Hearse or Blackwaterpark? I actually sat here for like 5 minutes debating and I can't pick. They both have so much good songs on them.
I'm going with MAYH.

[Darkness]

A tough one indeed... BWP I have more history with, but MAYH has the consistency that BWP doesn't have, so I'll give it to MAYH. Though I think the song BWP is better then anything on The Hearse.

[Jude]

Ehh...I think BWP is better than Hearse in terms of overall quality AND consistency.

[guitrguy]

No Demon of the Fall?
ITs been out of their set for a while now. They didn't play it when I saw them.

[Slapping Penguin]

I think Mikael wanted Ghost Reveries to be a really dark album, and I believe he succeeded to some degree... The problem is though, part of what makes some of the earlier Opeth albums so dark and atmospheric, is the fact that the production is so bad/muddy.. And I think Mikael doesn't want to move away from the crystal clear production they've had since blackwater park

Production has little to do with that. I feel the song writing on Ghost wasn't actually that evil.

It keeps them fresh, but at some points they don't seem like songs. At times it sounds like just a bunch of separate riffs piled together.

I still like it though, but the structure a bit slack.

Well last night when they played Under a Weeping Moon, Mik asked the crowd if they liked it, one guy said no he just smiled and said "well you’re just not smart enough for that song."

So I saw them last night, my first proper metal gig and it was nothing short of amazing. They were so tight and sounding perfect. I had never being to a proper and every band I ever really saw sounded horrible or not that great, but I was flabbergasted at the exact perfect sounds this band brought and not an ounce of messiness. I was waiting too see if it was true about Mikeal the funny man and yes it was true. At the start of the show, "be ready for a night of sh*t humour." hahah yes it was dry but you couldn't help but laugh.

Setlist was:

Ghost of Perdition
White Cluster
The Amen Corner
The Baying of the Hounds
Closure
Under a Weeping Moon
The Grand Conjuration
The Leper Affinity

Encore:
Soldier of Fortune (Deep Purple Cover)
Deliverance

TGC was soooo good live, along with Closure, TLA and to end the concert there was nothing like the repetitive BANG BABAB BANG BANG of Deliverance. That was cool.

Mik's jokes

Because it was at a theme park Mik said "yaa the carousels outside will suck power from my amp now and again but that’s wonderful."

"Mendez is going to get naked and suck his long co*k" (Mendez gives cheeky grin" PS: He looks so cool live.

"I f-ing love your country, actually I have being f-ing in you country, I had my honeymoon in this country, I have had blow jobs in the country".

And many many more, actually sometimes you were common get on with it.

The gig was the most people who had ever came and saw them. WHich I found amazing consirdering it was in Australia.

Someone call out Black Rose Immortal and Mik said "You only like that friggin song because its 20 mins long. You wanna see us suffer. I played a riff of that song the other day and no one knew it" Play a little bit of Black Rose.

The opening act the eternal was pretty cool, so I brought their CD.

Great great time.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Production has little to do with that. I feel the song writing on Ghost wasn't actually that evil.



Well last night when they played Under a Weeping Moon, Mik asked the crowd if they liked it, one guy said no he just smiled and said "well you’re just not smart enough for that song."

So I saw them last night, my first proper metal gig and it was nothing short of amazing. They were so tight and sounding perfect. I had never being to a proper and every band I ever really saw sounded horrible or not that great, but I was flabbergasted at the exact perfect sounds this band brought and not an ounce of messiness. I was waiting too see if it was true about Mikeal the funny man and yes it was true. At the start of the show, "be ready for a night of sh*t humour." hahah yes it was dry but you couldn't help but laugh.

Setlist was:

Ghost of Perdition
White Cluster
The Amen Corner
The Baying of the Hounds
Closure
Under a Weeping Moon
The Grand Conjuration
The Leper Affinity

Encore:
Soldier of Fortune (Deep Purple Cover)
Deliverance

TGC was soooo good live, along with Closure, TLA and to end the concert there was nothing like the repetitive BANG BABAB BANG BANG of Deliverance. That was cool.

Mik's jokes

Because it was at a theme park Mik said "yaa the carousels outside will suck power from my amp now and again but that’s wonderful."

"Mendez is going to get naked and suck his long co*k" (Mendez gives cheeky grin" PS: He looks so cool live.

"I f-ing love your country, actually I have being f-ing in you country, I had my honeymoon in this country, I have had blow jobs in the country".

And many many more, actually sometimes you were common get on with it.

The gig was the most people who had ever came and saw them. WHich I found amazing consirdering it was in Australia.

Someone call out Black Rose Immortal and Mik said "You only like that friggin song because its 20 mins long. You wanna see us suffer. I played a riff of that song the other day and no one knew it" Play a little bit of Black Rose.

The opening act the eternal was pretty cool, so I brought their CD.

Great great time.


Last night was one of the best nights of my life.Easily the best show ive been to.I was very happy with the setlist,mainly cos they played The Lepper Affinity which i was praying they play.I recorded the whole concert on a tape voice recorder.The quality is fairly **** in the distorted sections,but sounds reasonable in the soft parts and while mike is talking between songs.It will just good to go back and listen to it.

More funny stuff:

Mike to the crowd after the first song "Shh,Shh....Shut up"

"I love this country,i had my honeymoon here.Ive been ****ing in this country......and even got blow jobs too".

"People has this big perception that everyone in Sweeden just **** all the time and all the chicks have blonde hair and big tits.......Its true!"

Theres more i will put up later.

I waited around after and the band pulled out of the car park thing in front of us, i was hoping they would stop to sing **** but the just waved and kept going.So that was a little annoying.Overall though,an amazing night.Imo the best song live was White Cluster.It blew me away and will now be one of my favourite songs from them.

[Grey Incision]

I know i'm going to get flamed to the sh*ts for this, but Mike's clean vocals last night were terrible, i'm not sure if it was a tech issue, but they sounded all nasal and at times, chipmunk-ish, it ruined a lot of clean parts for me. I was really dissapointed in the setlist, as i mentioned above, because they only really displayed one side of their music, and as we all know, Opeth is a 2-sided band. My favourite song of the night was either The amen corner or Under a weeping moon. They also focused a lot more on a psychadelic kind of aspect of their music, using a fair amount of wah and relying on keyboards in some of the older songs, which kinda missed the point for me.

[Shadius]

Ehh...I think BWP is better than Hearse in terms of overall quality AND consistency.

I'd give it the quality but not the consistancy.

[Thor]

My dream setlist would be:

The Moor
Deliverance
Bleak
Demon of the Fall
In My Time of Need
The Grand Conjuration
Black Rose Immortal
The Leper Affinity

Encore: To Bid You Farewell

[Shadius]

My dream setlist would be:

The Moor
Deliverance
Bleak
Demon of the Fall
In My Time of Need
The Grand Conjuration
Black Rose Immortal
The Leper Affinity

Encore: To Bid You Farewell

*drool*

Mine would be something like...

Leper Affinity
Bleak
Drapery Falls
In My Time of Need
Ghost of Perdition
The Baying of the Hounds
When
Windowpane
The Moor
White Cluster

Encore:
Demon of the Fall
To Bid You Farewell

[Thor]

Pretty similar to mine. I kept mine a bit shorter just because all of the songs I picked were very long (especially Black Rose Immortal). I can hardly complain with your list though. It's good that you picked plenty of BWP, but I don't see anything off of Deliverance:(

[soadrulez]

i remember when they played dallas with the sounds of the uderground. they only gave them time to play 2 songs so lamb of crap can play their full 45 minute set. how on earth do u pick lamb of crap over opeth, i still wonder to this day. i drove 4 hours alone to that show. considering i was alone it seemed wayy longer. but it was still worth it for opeth. in addition gwar was awesome.

[Thor]

That's quite a bummer. Wasn't Opeth even headlining? That's such a crime against music, even though I like Lamb of God.

[Shadius]

Pretty similar to mine. I kept mine a bit shorter just because all of the songs I picked were very long (especially Black Rose Immortal). I can hardly complain with your list though. It's good that you picked plenty of BWP, but I don't see anything off of Deliverance:(

I had Deliverance in there, but I removed it along with some other songs cos my list was so big. :(

lol

[soadrulez]

i like lamb of god to...well to some extent. their just above ur average crap metal band. i find their songs repetitive. a lot of the people went to see lamb of god more than opeth. it was that whole american metal crap hype. what happened was that a 1 hour rain delay put the show behind. it was right after gwar. but clutch got a fll set then opeth was next. they got screwed and thats when lamb of god came on. it was 12am by then. i don't understand why opeth was headlining. if it was me opeth would headline a tour that included metallica. they are just superior

[soadrulez]

wasn't** sorry bad habit of not reviewing my messages

[Tyr]

Which one's better, My Arms, Your Hearse or Blackwaterpark? I actually sat here for like 5 minutes debating and I can't pick. They both have so much good songs on them.
MAYH, every time.

[Epicurus]

Seeing them tomorrow night!

[penelope weird hands]

^Have fun, champ! :thumb:

I saw them on the 20th, excellent stuff.
However, they seem to be playing the exact same setlist throughout Australia.
Travel back a couple of pages if you want to see said setlist.

MAYH is very swiftly becoming my favourite album, and to those who mentioned before that the Morningrise to My Arms, Your Hearse transition was their most different(and fruitful), I completely agree.
It's a very definitive album for them and I think Opeth really discovered the direction and style they wished to take.
It goes without saying that I am extremely glad they made such decisions to not clone dual guitar/melody slutting.

NP~ When @!@@!

[JamJar]

MAYH is also swiftly becoming my favourite album.

[Shadius]

I love how Mikael thought MAYH was **** after they recorded it, then he really got into the style.

[penelope weird hands]

The Funeral Portrait, Moonlapse Vertigo and By The Pain I See In Others ftw for most underrated Opeth songs.
They are amazing!!
But, in particular The Funeral Portrait.
That has some of the best riffs/solos/vocals I've ever heard.
I would cause genocide to see that live.

Any thoughts(on most underrated)?

[Drone]

I definitely agree with your choices.

I would also say the following:

Wreath
Master's Apprentices
The Night and the Silent Water
Nectar

[Jude]

Underrated?

WHITE CLUSTER all the way man.

[JamJar]

I would say Moonlapse Vertigo and White Cluster would be the most.

[Crysiss]

Wheres the love for Morningrise and Orchid:p

EDIT: Didnt read drones post.

[guitrguy]

I love how they have one part in In the Pain I See in Others thats sounds kind of like demented circus music.

[Crysiss]

:lol:

I know man. I was smoking weed one time with my friends, we were all high and my friend is like "Man i hear like....a clown song or something"

Its funny you say that.

[guitrguy]

I love it, I actually was listening to it on the way home from school.

[Thor]

Wheres the love for Morningrise and Orchid:p

EDIT: Didnt read drones post.
Morningrise has plenty of love, I think. Even Mikael said on the documentary that most Opeth fans find it to be their best album.

Orchid is still good, but it's just a lesser version of MR.

[Jude]

"Man i hear like....a clown song or something"


:lol: That part does sound like a circus. It's awesomely creepy though, especially with the lyrics.

And that reminds me, BTPISIO is another HIGHLY underrated song. Probably my second favorite off Deliverance after the title track. In fact maybe my first favorite.

Morningrise does have lots of love. Even if the songs are just a bunch of parts all thrown together, the parts are too incredible not to love. I think it's the acoustic parts that really make that album, too, especially Black Rose Immortal. That song has a bunch of Opeth's very best acoustic parts ever.

[Thor]

:lol: That part does sound like a circus. It's awesomely creepy though, especially with the lyrics.

And that reminds me, BTPISIO is another HIGHLY underrated song. Probably my second favorite off Deliverance after the title track. In fact maybe my first favorite.

Morningrise does have lots of love. Even if the songs are just a bunch of parts all thrown together, the parts are too incredible not to love. I think it's the acoustic parts that really make that album, too, especially Black Rose Immortal. That song has a bunch of Opeth's very best acoustic parts ever.
Black Rose Immortal is truly an amazing song, even though it's basically several different songs thrown under one title.

But still, Morningrise wouldn't be nearly as amazing if it wasn't for "To Bid You Farewell", the best song on the album and Opeth's 2nd best song ever (IMO). You can't beat the very chilled out jamming the band does until the very depressing and beautiful guitars at 7:06. It's pure musical bliss.

[Shadows]

Orchid is still good, but it's just a lesser version of MR.
I'll pretend I didn't hear that. :mad: :p

Morningrise is great, but it has some severe flaws in my eyes. Black Rose Immortal has to be one of my least favorite Opeth songs, despite some really sweet parts.

[Thor]

I'll pretend I didn't hear that. :mad: :p

Morningrise is great, but it has some severe flaws in my eyes. Black Rose Immortal has to be one of my least favorite Opeth songs, despite some really sweet parts.
Do you just not like it because of the length, or are there actual musical parts that you don't like?

By the way, nice to see you back. Haven't seen you posting in a while.

[Toaster]

I'll pretend I didn't hear that. :mad: :p

Morningrise is great, but it has some severe flaws in my eyes. Black Rose Immortal has to be one of my least favorite Opeth songs, despite some really sweet parts.

I agree with this.

[stinger]

i have bought every opeth album from blackwater park onwards, and iv been into them since 2002 (im guessing, i cant really remember when BWP came out) i'v also 'aquired' *wink wink nudge nudge* the rest, i think im also going to buy still life aswell, but iv not really listened to the rest enough to warrent me buying them yet, the slightly poorer production quality compared to the newer stuff really throws me off, but give it time, and i can probably see me buying them all, (and who says internet piracy damages record sales)

my favourite song is probably really predictable, but its bleak. basically i think the whole of blackwater park is amazing

[guitrguy]

Normally people buy the albums with out really knowing what it is going to sound like.

[Crysiss]

I never see a problem with poor production, I fall in love with the music:)

[Shattered_Future]

Opeth's production doesn't really bother me, except for the bass tone on Morningrise. It sounds really, unbelievably crappy...which is a shame, since the basslines are so damn good.

Some bands just have production that makes their music completely unlistenable though.

[Crysiss]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4153372561067572007&q=opeth&pl=true

The vocalist sounds identical to Mikael. I have heard the cleans though.

EDIT: It cuts off right where he starts to sing the "Soothing Trance" part.

[Darkness]

Opeth's production doesn't really bother me, except for the bass tone on Morningrise. It sounds really, unbelievably crappy...which is a shame, since the basslines are so damn good.

Some bands just have production that makes their music completely unlistenable though.
Agreed 9 trillion percent. FINALLY someone else who thinks the same.

[Elmo McCheese]

Something I've noticed with production is that whenever Martin Lopez does straight 16ths or triplets on double bass, it often sounds pretty sloppy. Maybe it's just me.

[UpperDecker]

I watched Lamentations again today and I really think they should have played Demon of the Fall instead of A Fair Judgement. The whole croud was screaming for it, it just would have made the ending alot better.

[guitrguy]

I watched Lamentations again today and I really think they should have played Demon of the Fall instead of A Fair Judgement. The whole croud was screaming for it, it just would have made the ending alot better.
The whole point of that tour was that they were only playing Damnation/Deliverance material.

[UpperDecker]

The whole point of that tour was that they were only playing Damnation/Deliverance material.

They still could of threw it in there in there. Its a pretty short song.

[JamJar]

By Opeth's standards, Demon Of The Fall is short.

I intend to buy Lamentations when I have enough cash and I really wish that there was material from Still Life and MAYH. Damn you copy right laws etc. :mad:

[Slapping Penguin]

Last night was one of the best nights of my life.Easily the best show ive been to.I was very happy with the setlist,mainly cos they played The Lepper Affinity which i was praying they play.I recorded the whole concert on a tape voice recorder.The quality is fairly **** in the distorted sections,but sounds reasonable in the soft parts and while mike is talking between songs.It will just good to go back and listen to it.

More funny stuff:

Mike to the crowd after the first song "Shh,Shh....Shut up"

"I love this country,i had my honeymoon here.Ive been ****ing in this country......and even got blow jobs too".

"People has this big perception that everyone in Sweeden just **** all the time and all the chicks have blonde hair and big tits.......Its true!"

Theres more i will put up later.

I waited around after and the band pulled out of the car park thing in front of us, i was hoping they would stop to sing **** but the just waved and kept going.So that was a little annoying.Overall though,an amazing night.Imo the best song live was White Cluster.It blew me away and will now be one of my favourite songs from them.

Mm yes I didn't like the set list too much but it was one of the best nights of my life. It annoys me how short Opeth set lists are, I often think it lazy. I think Opeth could be more caring of their fans but I think they have this rock star image with themselves now. I mean 8 songs, common who can do more.
If it was the biggest show they had ever played to you think they might have being a little more caring.

I know i'm going to get flamed to the sh*ts for this, but Mike's clean vocals last night were terrible, i'm not sure if it was a tech issue, but they sounded all nasal and at times, chipmunk-ish, it ruined a lot of clean parts for me. I was really dissapointed in the setlist, as i mentioned above, because they only really displayed one side of their music, and as we all know, Opeth is a 2-sided band. My favourite song of the night was either The amen corner or Under a weeping moon. They also focused a lot more on a psychadelic kind of aspect of their music, using a fair amount of wah and relying on keyboards in some of the older songs, which kinda missed the point for me.

WHAT!, his vocals were perfect.

I didn't really know the fuss about Mendez until the concert night. He was amazing, his bass fills were aubile and clear as crystal, his headbanging rocks just overall great musicanship. Very tight, and had a great bass tone.

Who is their stand in drummer. He is a f-ing gun.

[Cardboard Headgear]

Who is their stand in drummer. He is a f-ing gun.
Probably still Martin Axenrot. And they played for over an hour, how is that not caring?

[Slapping Penguin]

You can do more.

What is with Opeth and Martins....

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Mm yes I didn't like the set list too much but it was one of the best nights of my life. It annoys me how short Opeth set lists are, I often think it lazy. I think Opeth could be more caring of their fans but I think they have this rock star image with themselves now. I mean 8 songs, common who can do more.
If it was the biggest show they had ever played to you think they might have being a little more caring.


Dude, the show was just about two hours long.Thats the standard length,if not longer for most concerts.They played nine songs too,not eight.Well actually ten if you include the Deep Purple song.So thought it was a pretty good length.

[Slapping Penguin]

I didn't include the encore on purpose. 20 mins was wasted on waiting for an encore.

[Still Life]

The Sydney show was ****ing awesome. The Eternal weren't bad either.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

I didn't include the encore on purpose. 20 mins was wasted on waiting for an encore.


You seem like your pissed about the show or something.I recorded the whole show nad have listened to it.its was barely 5 minutes waiting for the encore.

[G_Mac07]

bootleg? Is the sound quality decent?

I'm seeing Opeth in an hour. I'm so excited. :D

[Happy]

Lucky you.
Hopefully I can get a day ticket to see them at Download.

[Mother]

And Just when i tought Mikeal couldnt get any more respect from me than he already has


http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bla...wsitemID=51463

OPETH frontman Mikael Åkerfeldt has commented on the negative reaction to the remarks he made to Australia's Time Off magazine about the state of today's metal scene.

In an interview posted at TimeOff.com.au, Åkerfeldt is quoted as saying, "Most of the bands today, I don't really like them. When I grew up it was like heresy to compare KILLSWITCH ENGAGE and whatever you got going with MAIDEN and PRIEST. Especially in America, it seems to be a little trend goin'... it's corporate business. The bands feel manufactured, almost like boy bands with guitars. I don't want my bands to be ****ing pretty."

Writing to OPETH's official forum, Åkerfeldt defended his comments, stating, "The quote [published by Time Off magazine] is a bit misleading. I don't particulary like KILLSWITCH but have nothing against them really. All I was saying that I don't see the same quality in them as I do in PRIEST or MAIDEN. Partly because they were innovators and [KILLSWITCH ENGAGE] to me sounds like a rehashed version of what's been going on in Sweden for 16 years or more. Had you lived in Sweden, you'd share my opinion on that I'm pretty sure.

"Then the thing with the boy-band comment...was not addressed to [KILLSWITCH ENGAGE] but an observation of the overall 'nu' or whatever metalcore scene in the U.S. And here I stick to my guns... I will not deny anyone liking these bands and what the **** would they care what I think is good or bad anyways."

An hour later, Åkerfeldt — who is currently on tour in Australia — returned to the official OPETH forum to address the comments from BLABBERMOUTH.NET visitors regarding the above topic. He wrote, "Wow, just saw the Blabbermouth thing and it really escalated out of control there. All I can say is that the interview has mistakes. For one, I didn't compare [KILLSWITCH ENGAGE] to PRIEST when I was growing up as...well, they weren't around then. Blabber is also out for drama taking that line as the headlining quote.

"I hope people are smart enough to understand that there are U.S. bands that I completely adore...like NEVERMORE and TOOL. I was only talking about the so-called metalcore or nu metal scene and it looks as if I was bashing the whole of the U.S. metal scene.

"We're jealous? OK, whatever...

"Seems a lot of people won't allow me to have or express my taste in music anymore, so I guess I'll have to become a fan of whatever's selling to prove I'm not jealous.

"And I've met the guys in [KILLSWITCH ENGAGE] once and they seemed like nice dudes (not that pretty either), I'd never publicly bash a band that didn't deserve it. And is it an attack . . .by saying PRIEST and MAIDEN mean more to me than [KILLSWITCH ENGAGE]?

"All of you gotta understand that out of the zillion interviews I do, some will take the so called 'good stuff' and put it forward and make me seem like a prick."

[PeEpHoLe_10]

bootleg? Is the sound quality decent?

I'm seeing Opeth in an hour. I'm so excited. :D

Nah its pretty ****.The heavy sections sound crap,while the clean sections sound okay.Im just happy i can hear Mikes funny jokes over and over lol.

[Slapping Penguin]

You seem like your pissed about the show or something.I recorded the whole show nad have listened to it.its was barely 5 minutes waiting for the encore.

Nahh man, hahah I f-ing loved it soooo much. I was just looking on the negative, sorry.

^^^^ Good on him. You can't say anything these days without being attacked for some reason.

bootleg? Is the sound quality decent?

I'm seeing Opeth in an hour. I'm so excited.

Don't really know you mate too much but as a fellow Aussie I wou;d. You will have an awesome time they are SOOO amazing.

The Sydney show was ****ing awesome. The Eternal weren't bad either.

Yeah, good doom.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Nahh man, hahah I f-ing loved it soooo much. I was just looking on the negative, sorry.

Hahah nah thats cool,it did actually feel like an hour beofre they came to play Deliverance,but maybe that was cos i was just anxious,hoping that they would actually come back on.

[The Sandman]

Damn...I recently listened to the live version of A Fair Judgement on Lamentations and it's absolutely amazing.

It far exceeds the studio version imo.

Anyone else agree/disagree?

[Thor]

I finally watched the documentary on the Lamentations DVD all the way through, and it was very entertaining. It's always great to watch your favorite band play music, but even cooler when you see them warm up with riffs that you know. Like during the scene where Akerfeldt is helping Mendez remember a bass line and then I ended up shouting out "Hey! That's Deliverance!". :)

...the documentary also gave me much more respect for Steven Wilson. Sure, I knew that he was extremely talented, but I didn't know that he lots of Opeth's vocal arrangements. Listening to him add the keyboards, piano parts, guitar solos, vocals, and effects is just entertaining to watch and listen to. Long live Steven Wilson and Opeth!

/is listening to the vocal arrangement in "Master's Apprentices"

[Jude]

I love the acoustic part of Master's Apprentices.

And that whole thread on the Opeth forum about Mike allegedly insulting Killswitch was one of the stupidest things ever. People on that forum are ****in morons.

[G_Mac07]

Well, Opeth weren't the gods I was hoping they'd be, but they came damn close. Excellent show. The Deep Purple cover was cool.

The Eternal were a good opening act as well, although my mates seemed to dislike them.

[Thor]

Well, Opeth weren't the gods I was hoping they'd be, but they came damn close. Excellent show. The Deep Purple cover was cool.

The Eternal were a good opening act as well, although my mates seemed to dislike them.
If they weren't gods, then what did they do wrong?

[G_Mac07]

They didn't do anything wrong, which is why I said they came damn close and that it was an excellent show.

Perhaps I'm just a little dissappointed with the setlist (could have been slightly better, imo), or that I ended up stuck with a chick who wasn't enjoying herself for the majority of it. Maybe I just have my knickers in a twist because I've had 4 hours sleep in the last two days. Anyway, none of that stuff is even remotely Opeth's wrongdoing. I guess I just didn't enjoy myself as much as I thought I would have.

[matt4]

Dude, when I saw them in New Orleans, their setlist was AMAZING! They played In The Mist She Was Standing (Orchid), White Cluster (Still Life), April Ethereal (MAYH), and like a 15 minute version of Closure (Damnation). All sort of obscure songs compared to what everyone was expecting. Definitely didn't expect ANYTHING pre-MAYH. They played more songs, obviously; those are just the "obscure" ones that come to mind.

No Demon of the Fall; Deliverance was the encore. I guess if this had been my first show, I may be disappointed by that... What was your setlist like? It couldn't have been much different...

[G_Mac07]

Ghost of perdition
White cluster
The amen corner
The baying of the hounds
Closure
Under the weeping moon
The grand conjuration
The Leper affinity
----------------
Deep Purple - Soldier Of Fortune Cover
Deliverance

The set list was the same for every Aussie show, I think.

[Thor]

Dude, when I saw them in New Orleans, their setlist was AMAZING! They played In The Mist She Was Standing (Orchid), White Cluster (Still Life), April Ethereal (MAYH), and like a 15 minute version of Closure (Damnation). All sort of obscure songs compared to what everyone was expecting. Definitely didn't expect ANYTHING pre-MAYH. They played more songs, obviously; those are just the "obscure" ones that come to mind.

No Demon of the Fall; Deliverance was the encore. I guess if this had been my first show, I may be disappointed by that... What was your setlist like? It couldn't have been much different...
April Ethereal!?!?!?!?!

I just had an orgasm, seeing as how that's my favorite song off of MAYH.
Ghost of perdition
White cluster
The amen corner
The baying of the hounds
Closure
Under the weeping moon
The grand conjuration
The Leper affinity
----------------
Deep Purple - Soldier Of Fortune Cover
Deliverance

The set list was the same for every Aussie show, I think.
Pretty good setlist, but where's the Morningrise?

[Stoo]

They never play Morningrise stuff?

[Thor]

They never play Morningrise stuff?
They'll play it occasionally, but not much at all, sadly. :upset:

They really need to start making To Bid You Farewell as their encore song because it would be truly epic to see live.

NP - Opeth - Ghost of Perdition

[Stoo]

They'll play it occasionally, but not much at all, sadly. :upset:

They really need to start making To Bid You Farewell as their encore song because it would be truly epic to see live.

NP - Opeth - Ghost of Perdition
Yeah, TBYF would be sweet.

NP - Advent. :cool:

[Thor]

Yeah, TBYF would be sweet.

NP - Advent. :cool:
It would be. Even the title of the song fits perfectly as an encore song, so it puzzles me why they don't play it.

Excellent choice with Advent. Almost the entire Morningrise album is awesome, but Nectar tends to drag along in some parts.

[Shadius]

It would be. Even the title of the song fits perfectly as an encore song, so it puzzles me why they don't play it.

Being a death metal band, and having a lot of extreme metal fans, having a soft encore would be an anti-climax for a lot of people.

I wouldn't mind myself, but I totally see where they're coming from. Demon of the Fall would be an amazing encore for me anyway, and Deliverance would be cool.

[Stoo]

We got Deliverance and Demon of The Fall. :cool:

[guitrguy]

By Opeth's standards, Demon Of The Fall is short.

I intend to buy Lamentations when I have enough cash and I really wish that there was material from Still Life and MAYH. Damn you copy right laws etc. :mad:
Lamentations is about $15 new, I would buy it used if my lil bro didn't already own. You should check amazon for a used copy.

[Jude]

I got Lamentations for 15 (shipping included) from Amazon - new. It's totally worth it. The concert rules and the documentary is very interesting.

[Thor]

I got Lamentations for 15 (shipping included) from Amazon - new. It's totally worth it. The concert rules and the d0cumentary is very interesting.
I just got it off of amazon for about the same price. That's where I get all of my Opeth stuff, but now I'm out of things to get. I finally ordered the last of the CDs that I don't already own.

[Knifeboy]

If you're american, you can't afford not to get Lamentations http://dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=570485 .. 9 bucks!

[Stoo]

I just got it off of amazon for about the same price. That's where I get all of my Opeth stuff, but now I'm out of things to get. I finally ordered the last of the CDs that I don't already own.
I ordered the last 2 I don't own like 5 months ago!! :angry:

[Thor]

If you're american, you can't afford not to get Lamentations http://dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=570485 .. 9 bucks!
That's a deal and a half right there. The DVD is well worth every penny. The documentarty is a great way to get an inside look on how Opeth really functions.

...and of course, the performance is wonderful. I'm still bitter that there aren't any old songs though, but the ones that they do are fantastic.

I ordered the last 2 I don't own like 5 months ago!! :angry:
What's to be angry about?

[Stoo]

I haven't received them yet...

[Thor]

I haven't received them yet...
Oh you didn't say that, so I thought that you were mad at me for some reason. Never mind. Which ones did you order, and what site did you get them from?

[Stoo]

D & D

Amazon.

I actually will not be getting Damnation as they "Cannot Source Product"

[Thor]

D & D

Amazon.

I actually will not be getting Damnation as they "Cannot Source Product"
You should try and find a way to get your money back and then just buy them both at a CD store. They're both pretty easy to find, at least they are at the stores in my town. They never had Orchid or Still Life, so I had to get those online.

[Stoo]

You should try and find a way to get your money back and then just buy them both at a CD store. They're both pretty easy to find, at least they are at the stores in my town. They never had Orchid or Still Life, so I had to get those online.
No.

Like I've said loads of times in this thread, where I live, D & D are the 2 rarest Opeth albums.

I walked into HMV the other day n tehy had 5 Ghost Reveries and an equal amount of Still Life's.

Another place had one copy each of MAYH, Morningrise and Orchid.

I haven't seen Blackwater Park in a while come to think of it.

In fact the only time I've seen that is when I bought it possibly.

[Thor]

That's really odd. You could always try eBay or CDNOW. They usually work, and I really don't understand why amazon has screwed you over. I order from them all the time and my stuff always comes quickly. Tough luck, man.

[Stoo]

Yup. They are still saying I'll recieve Deliverance.

I may try eBay, I dunno why, but I never thoguht to check there.

(For the record I usually order my CD's from Play.com, and it's like the best site to get CD's. But it's the same problem as in store...Out of Stock!!)

I ordered Slayer - Seasons In The Abyss/South Of Heaven and Death - Symbolic from that site and I won't get them until all 3 are back in stock. God knows when that will be eh?

They did post 10,000 Days today though. :cool:

[ObviousEnigma]

Well, i know its all been said before, and we all know that they are possibly the most amazing band ever.. or one of a select few, but i just want to make my first post and dedicate it to the one and only "Opeth" They are the essence of what it means to make music.. and may they make much more so that those true music lovers in the world will not die of deprevation. :chug:

[Thor]

Don't worry about saying it again, it's always good to hear the same praise from a new person.

Welcome to the forums.

[ObviousEnigma]

Well yea, good point.. of the great, to much can never be said. And thanks, i feel welcome already.

[Thor]

You should feel welcome, just stick to the rules and you'll be another great addition to the R&M crew. :thumb:

God, since when was "Epilogue" so good? I listened to it again and finally realized its greatness.

[Stoo]

Did you listen to Flynns version?

[Jude]

Yup. They are still saying I'll recieve Deliverance.

I may try eBay, I dunno why, but I never thoguht to check there.

(For the record I usually order my CD's from Play.com, and it's like the best site to get CD's. But it's the same problem as in store...Out of Stock!!)

I ordered Slayer - Seasons In The Abyss/South Of Heaven and Death - Symbolic from that site and I won't get them until all 3 are back in stock. God knows when that will be eh?

They did post 10,000 Days today though. :cool:
On Amazon I usually buy from third party sellers. They almost always ship really quickly (unless it's just some person selling a used CD) and the prices are better than from Amazon itself.

[Shattered_Future]

I tried that once and they shipped my DVD about 3 weeks after I got my CD...

I ordered the CD directly from amazon, the DVD from a third party.

[Crysiss]

I never order online. Never have. Im not saying that its bad, its just that I've never had the chance. :upset:

[Thor]

I never order online. Never have. Im not saying that its bad, its just that I've never had the chance. :upset:
Well it's obvious that you have internet access, so why havent you?

NP - Opeth - When

[ATC]

I feel awful not having made it to the Opeth shows with the Ballet Deviare. Not that they were anywhere near here, but I should have gone nonetheless. They really would suit the music. I found a video of them with Swallow the sun, who're a great band in their own right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L87MlhO-GHM&search=swallow%20the%20sun

[Crysiss]

Well it's obvious that you have internet access, so why havent you?

NP - Opeth - When

I dont know. I know that I could use PayPal. I guess I should start looking into it.

[Thor]

I dont know. I know that I could use PayPal. I guess I should start looking into it.
It's a worthwhile thing. It's all the joy of buying things, just minus the driving part. :thumb:

I listened to Deliverance all the way through again today, and it just gets better every time I hear it. There are some parts on there that are just so chock full of emotion that it's often unreal. The riffing right before the two epic solos in "A Fair Judgement" actually brought a tear to my eye, no joke.

[Crysiss]

I love that part. The first time I heard it was in the documentary. I fell in love with that part at first listen.

[Thor]

I love that part. The first time I heard it was in the d0cumentary. I fell in love with that part at first listen.
It truly is an amazing part, one of Opeth's finest moments. It's even better when they play it live just because you can feel the energy that the band and the crowd are generating as the band plays their final song of that night.

Oh Opeth, how do you do it?

[CaptainWaits]

Alright, I have a question not relating to Opeth, but related to this thread...

Last time I looked at the number of replies, it was somewhere's around 5,000, and it wasn't too long ago I remember it. How did this thread skyrocket up to nearly 14,000 posts :confused:

[Thor]

People just love talking about Opeth, I guess. You must have been gone for quite sometime if that's what the reply count was when you last saw it.

NP - Opeth - The Leper Affinity (I just got to 2:10, the best part)

[CaptainWaits]

People just love talking about Opeth, I guess. You must have been gone for quite sometime if that's what the reply count was when you last saw it.
I haven't left these forums for a long time at all.....It just amazed me when I saw the postcount on this thread :amaze:

hmmmm, w/e. doesn't matter to me.

[guitrguy]

I haven't left these forums for a long time at all.....It just amazed me when I saw the postcount on this thread :amaze:

hmmmm, w/e. doesn't matter to me.
I think the fact that Opeth just recently toured might have played a part in it.

[Thor]

I think the fact that Opeth just recently toured might have played a part in it.
That's probably a good reason, and there are always new fans coming in, and the talk of old albums is always constant as well.

[Darkness]

Alright, I have a question not relating to Opeth, but related to this thread...

Last time I looked at the number of replies, it was somewhere's around 5,000, and it wasn't too long ago I remember it. How did this thread skyrocket up to nearly 14,000 posts :confused:
Because theres like 3-4 new people that just post like mad. :p

[Shattered_Future]

I haven't been listening to much Opeth lately...

Other stuff with Mike in it though. Mostly The Human Equation by Ayreon...

[Darkness]

Yeah I haven't been listening much either, just a song or two here and there.

[Jude]

Yeah I haven't been listening much either, just a song or two here and there.
Same here. It's because it's spring. It's Porcupine Tree season. In September I'll probably start going heavy on the Peth again.

[Elmo McCheese]

Yeah I listen to lighter stuff in the summer, heavier stuff in the winter. My friend makes fun of me for listening to Sublime too much these days.