Opeth

[Flynn]

Ending Credits and Weakness were the songs that I liked the most when I first heard Damnation, I liked Hope Leaves, I just found the former to be more apealing to me on my first listen. They still don't compare to Epilogue. That has to be my favorite Opeth song at this moment.


N.P. Epilogue ~ Opeth

[eighty d]

The chord progressions are cool too.

Ah, the ever creative i-iv-V... at least Mike threw some color notes in the chords to make it decent. The lead is really what makes that song though.

[Shattered_Future]

Weakness I don't like that much...it's too...weird, even by Opeth standards.

Ending Credits rocks though...

Man, I just can't get over that sung part in Godhead's Lament. I was listening to it again today, and it never ceases to amaze me...

[Stoo]

Tool AND Opeth? Dredg too! When do we find out if it's the same day? Because if they are then I'm definately going.
I know mang. :upset:

On Topic...

I was listening to My Arms, You're Hearse in my bed last night.

Man, I knew it was gooood.

But afterwards I think it's definately in my top 3 Opeth observations. :p

[Stormrider]

Weakness I don't like that much...it's too...weird, even by Opeth standards.

Ending Credits rocks though...

Man, I just can't get over that sung part in Godhead's Lament. I was listening to it again today, and it never ceases to amaze me...

I havn't listened to Still Life is a week or 2 now...I must later tonight. But I too love that part. The firts part that really stood out in that song for me I would say...

[Elmo McCheese]

The sung part in Godhead's Lament somehow reminds me of a Christmas song, it's so good.

[Drone]

http://www.theblaze1260.com/interview/akerfeldt.mp3

Here is a cool little interview with Mikael. The discussion at the very end excites me. :D

[Thor]

http://www.theblaze1260.com/interview/akerfeldt.mp3

Here is a cool little interview with Mikael. The discussion at the very end excites me. :D
I heard talk of the album with Steve Wilson, Akerfeldt, and Portnoy?

I just had an orgasm. :)

[NymphetamineX]

http://www.theblaze1260.com/interview/akerfeldt.mp3

Here is a cool little interview with Mikael. The discussion at the very end excites me. :D

I haven't listened to it all yet, but the part where Mikael says he wants to open on a tour with Tool damn near stopped my heart; I stopped breathing for a moment.

[guitrguy]

I haven't listened to it all yet, but the part where Mikael says he wants to open on a tour with Tool damn near stopped my heart; I stopped breathing for a moment.
Once you listen to them you will go into cardiac arrest. :thumb:

[Shattered_Future]

Jesus Christ...

Tool AND Opeth, ON THE SAME TOUR?

Ok, I can't accept anything as shocking anymore...

[Darkness]

Jesus Christ...

Tool AND Opeth, ON THE SAME TOUR?

Ok, I can't accept anything as shocking anymore...
And... Nevermore as openers...

/drools

[MidnightRider]

That interview gave me an erection.

There's no way in hell I'd miss Tool and Opeth. I don't care how far I have to go.

[guitrguy]

And... Nevermore as openers...

/drools
Oh god if that were too happen I don't know what I would do.

[Darkness]

Oh god if that were too happen I don't know what I would do.
That would be my three favorite bands, in order, Tool being number 1.

[Grey Incision]

I put an interview in this thread a very long time ago in wich mike expressed interest in touring with Tool and Metallica. In particular, Mike said that the band were big Tool fans and that a tour with Tool would be great for the audiences of both bands to experience something new. So it isn't a new ambition of his to tour with them, just depends on if it progresses past the talk stage.

[guitrguy]

I put an interview in this thread a very long time ago in wich mike expressed interest in touring with Tool and Metallica. In particular, Mike said that the band were big Tool fans and that a tour with Tool would be great for the audiences of both bands to experience something new. So it isn't a new ambition of his to tour with them, just depends on if it progresses past the talk stage.
I think it could be possible especially seeing how Opeth is rapidly gaining fame.

[Drone]

It seems like they may do Gigantour for now, though. I love Megadeth, so that excites me, but Tool and Opeth...well, I think that speaks for itself! :D

[Thor]

I thought it was pretty funny when Mikael just started bashing Ozzfest. It's great to know that the bands hate it as much as real metal fans do.

[Darkness]

It seems like they may do Gigantour for now, though. I love Megadeth, so that excites me, but Tool and Opeth...well, I think that speaks for itself! :D
They're doing Gigantour? :confused:

[UpperDecker]

http://www.theblaze1260.com/interview/akerfeldt.mp3

Here is a cool little interview with Mikael. The discussion at the very end excites me. :D


Cool interview, thanks.

[Deth]

He said he was offered it and was considering it. I don't think he will though, they've been touring so long.

[eighty d]

Opeth on Gigantour would kick ***. Opeth with Tool... that I'd be torn. Opeth is amazing, Tool I could do without.

[Darkness]

Opeth on Gigantour would kick ***. Opeth with Tool... that I'd be torn. Opeth is amazing, Tool I could do without.
How dare you...


/holds self back

[Deth]

Tool just doesn't move me as much as other bands. I enjoy them, but I'm not constantly going :eek: like I do with some bands.

/pours gasoline on the fire of Darkness' fanboyism

[Darkness]

Tool just doesn't move me as much as other bands. I enjoy them, but I'm not constantly going :eek: like I do with some bands.

/pours gasoline on the fire of Darkness' fanboyism
No band moves me as much as Tool does...

Judas Preist sucks.

[eighty d]

How dare you...


/holds self back

Convert me. Give me a song or two to download that'll blow me away.

Keeping in mind that I have Lateralus, and nothing on it really grabbed me.

[Darkness]

The whole Ænima album should do the trick. Songs like.. Eulogy, H., 46&2, Pu****, and Third Eye. Epic songs.

Tool just doesn't move me as much as other bands. I enjoy them, but I'm not constantly going :eek: like I do with some bands.

/pours gasoline on the fire of Darkness' fanboyism
No band moves me as much as Tool does...

Judas Preist sucks.

Quoted due to page pwn.

[Shadius]

Convert me. Give me a song or two to download that'll blow me away.

Keeping in mind that I have Lateralus, and nothing on it really grabbed me.

Parabol/a is one of the most amazing pieces of music ever written. How that song couldn't grab someone who listens to it a few times is beyond me.

I'd recommend Prison Sex, or something like 46 & 2 or Stinkfist from Ænima for instant grabbage.

[UpperDecker]

Convert me. Give me a song or two to download that'll blow me away.

Keeping in mind that I have Lateralus, and nothing on it really grabbed me.

Listen to Sober, Third Eye, Ticks & Leaches, Aenima. Those should do the trick.

[Drone]

He said he was offered it and was considering it. I don't think he will though, they've been touring so long.

Stop bursting my bubble! :mad: :p

I wouldn't blame Mike and the guys, though, I would imagine that touring is extremely tiring and difficult.

Convert me. Give me a song or two to download that'll blow me away.

Keeping in mind that I have Lateralus, and nothing on it really grabbed me.

I would recommend Eulogy and H. from Aenima. Floods is also a personal favorite of mine. :thumb:

[Tyr]

I'm actually going to see both Opeth and Tool on the same day on Metaltown festival in Gothenburg \m/

[guitrguy]

Lucky bastard.

[Crysiss]

I'm actually going to see both Opeth and Tool on the same day on Metaltown festival in Gothenburg \m/

Lucky *** Sucka:O

[Moses]

Convert me. Give me a song or two to download that'll blow me away.

Keeping in mind that I have Lateralus, and nothing on it really grabbed me.
That's odd... You struck me as a Tool fan on these boards. Actually now that I think about it, at the show, not so much.

[penelope weird hands]

mmm.. Tool and Opeth.
I have to use this behavioural description again.
*dances around like gollum finding a rabbit*

That beats all wet dreams and real circumstance to the same effect - combined.
I don't care how many pr0nstars ones imagination can conjure up, it still wins.

Fvck, I haven't listened to any decentmusic all easter.
NP ~ By The Pain I See In Others
Anyone seen ^that live?

3 days to go. :} :} :}

[Vaper]

my dying bride is ok too listen too :cool: 6 days to go


np ; my dying bride : a kiss to remember
whoa

[Vaper]

OH and if u like novembers doom try "swallow the sun" i recently heard a few songs by them and i was quite suprized. Imo they sound more like opeth do than novembers doom sound like opeth even tho they dont come close if you know what i mean.

[Det_Nosnip]

Nice ***.

[Darkness]

Nice ***.
Was just thinking that...

[eighty d]

That's odd... You struck me as a Tool fan on these boards. Actually now that I think about it, at the show, not so much.

I'm sure I'd be more into them if i didn't find Maynard to be such a ****. As it is I don't really dislike them, I've just never found anything about them that makes me want to listen again.

I downloaded Eulogy and H. Eulogy started out kind of cool, but I got bored before it changed. H. again was alright, I liked the guitar. I'll give them a few more listens, but right now nothing really stuck with me. I'm still singing Devin Townsend - Vampira in my head.

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

The whole Ænima album should do the trick. Songs like.. Eulogy, H., 46&2, Pu****, and Third Eye. Epic songs.



the title track to that album is the one that moves me the most...

[Crysiss]

Nice ***.

Ahh, the wonderful Keyra Augustina.

[Shadius]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=W1RRiA92Ku8&search=opeth%20live

Oh yeah. Opeth live, recently. There's more on there too, I'm just still watching the GoP from December 2005.

Edit: Watching White Cluster from the same show now, sweet.

Mikaels voice is even better than off Lamentations here, though the recording quality is worse, obviously.

[Darkness]

the title track to that album is the one that moves me the most...
Yeah, that's a good song to. Good message. :)

[UpperDecker]

Forest of October is amazing live. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzbnBtd-gG4&search=Opeth

[Shadows]

Woah, how old is that show? Peter's playing a Jackson RR and the drummer doesn't look like a Martin.

[UpperDecker]

I didn't realize how many Opeth vids are on youtube.

[Jude]

Woah, how old is that show? Peter's playing a Jackson RR and the drummer doesn't look like a Martin.
Very recent. Lopez hasn't been drumming on recent tours, they have some other guy filling in. In fact nobody is sure if Lopez is even coming back to the band, which really sucks :upset:

[Shadows]

Very recent. Lopez hasn't been drumming on recent tours, they have some other guy filling in. In fact nobody is sure if Lopez is even coming back to the band, which really sucks :upset:
That video can't possibly be recent.

And it does suck that Lopez may never come back. I love that guy's style. :(

[Knifeboy]

Very recent. Lopez hasn't been drumming on recent tours, they have some other guy filling in. In fact nobody is sure if Lopez is even coming back to the band, which really sucks :upset:

That video is very nonrecent. I've had it for years

[Jude]

Wait if the video's non recent, the video would have to be from before Lopez was drumming, i.e. like 1997.

[bucket]

Lopez had anxiety problems during a tour a few years ago. SYL's drummer filled in for him for a bit. It might be from then.

[Shadius]

We're on page 666 guys.

DEMON. DEMON OF THE FALL. \m/ :angry: \m/

*makes a fool of self*

[Knifeboy]

Lopez had anxiety problems during a tour a few years ago. SYL's drummer filled in for him for a bit. It might be from then.

A few years ago?......
A few months, more like

[Shadius]

Did it happen before as well though?

[Darkness]

w00t! 666! :evil:

[Tyr]

That looks like Lopez to me. I can guarantee that it isn't Gene Hoglan or Martin Axenrot. Hoglan is huge and Axenrot is blond.

[Darkness]

It's probably that Anders guy then...

[Crysiss]

666:p

Which vid are you guys talking about?

[Shadows]

It's most likely Anders, the original drummer. Besides that, it's an Orchid song, which could've been played anytime since 1995. What gave it away for me was Peter's guitar. He hasn't used an RR since MAYH was released, which narrows the show down to 95-98.

[UpperDecker]

We're on page 666 guys.

DEMON. DEMON OF THE FALL. \m/ :angry: \m/

*makes a fool of self*


OH SNAP!! thanks for reminding me.

DEMON! DEMON OF THE FALL!!
DEMON! DEMON OF THE FALL!!
DEMON! DEMON OF THE FALL!!
DEMON! DEMON OF THE FALL!!

[Crysiss]

OH SNAP!! thanks for reminding me.

DEMON! DEMON OF THE FALL!!
DEMON! DEMON OF THE FALL!!
DEMON! DEMON OF THE FALL!!
DEMON! DEMON OF THE FALL!!

666 more posts for you UpperDecker:p

[Panvium]

post on page 666, will now play demon of the fall

After pantera's floods, love this song.

[Stormrider]

Just for the sake of posting on the 666th page of this thread :p

I havn't listened to my Still Life album in a few weeks I think :( I must listen to it some more later.

[bucket]

A few years ago?......
A few months, more like

And two or three years ago. This chunk of touring was not the first time he missed shows.

[UpperDecker]

Silent Fart Of Death!!!!!!
Demon! Demon Of The Fall!!!!
Demon! Demon Of The Fall!!!!!
666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666

[guitrguy]

Silent Fart Of Death!!!!!!
Demon! Demon Of The Fall!!!!
Demon! Demon Of The Fall!!!!!
666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666
Owned by page turn.

[penelope weird hands]

Silent Fart Of Death!!!!!!
Demon! Demon Of The Fall!!!!
Demon! Demon Of The Fall!!!!!
667 667 667 667 667 667 667 667

Fix'd.
Mmmm.. two days 'til Opeth..!
Go go go go gogo g ogo g ogo go go go go :smash: :smash: :smash:

[guitrguy]

Fix'd.
Mmmm.. two days 'til Opeth..!
Go go go go gogo g ogo g ogo go go go go :smash: :smash: :smash:
awesome dude. Is it gonna be you first time seeing them?

[UpperDecker]

Owned by page turn.

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[penelope weird hands]

awesome dude. Is it gonna be you first time seeing them?

Yep, certainly is. :smoke:

I don't know what to expect.. I mean.. I've seen Lamentations, but actually being there well.. it's going to be crazy!
Can't wait for the atmosphere.

Not to mention I haven't seen any live music in aaages.
This show will definately quench that thirst. :p

[guitrguy]

You will not be disappointed.

The best part about seeing them, for me anyways, I just got to be in the same building as Opeth. Mikael Is great with the crowd. He makes jokes, and talks to the crowd and stuff.

[Darkness]

Yeah, being in the very presance of the band is just awesome. :)

[eighty d]

If at all possible, get to the show early and get a rail spot. Being on the rail made it the most incredible concert of my life. *shook hands with Mikael Stanne*

*...and caught one of Peter's picks*

[Darkness]

That is true...

/also shook with Mikael Stanne, and the guitar player.. the one with dreads... *name slips mind...*

[guitrguy]

*shook hands with Mikael Stanne*

*...and caught one of Peter's picks*
Me too, but I shook peters hand instead catching his pick.
That is true...

/also shook with Mikael Stanne, and the guitar player.. the one with dreads... *name slips mind...*
His dreads were intense

[Crysiss]

Id rather Shake hands with someone than catch a pick. Unless the pick is signed of course:D

[Shadows]

That is true...

/also shook with Mikael Stanne, and the guitar player.. the one with dreads... *name slips mind...*
Martin Henrikkson?

I'd do both, if possible. Shaking hands obviously means meeting the guy, but a pick is something I'd be able to keep as a mememto.

[aria444]

seein opeth friday gonna be awesome

cant wait :grin: :lol:

[Crysiss]

nice ***

[aria444]

thx :smoke:

[Stoo]

Can't believe I missed the whole 666th page. :upset:

[Det_Nosnip]

That is true...

/also shook with Mikael Stanne, and the guitar player.. the one with dreads... *name slips mind...*

You mean the badass? ;)

He originally played bass on the first few albums, and now does half of the guitar solos and leads. Gotta love the guy. Plus, he looks like he belongs in a sci-fi movie. :lol:

[Det_Nosnip]

That is true...

/also shook with Mikael Stanne, and the guitar player.. the one with dreads... *name slips mind...*

Well, when DT came to Chicago, I chatted with Mikael and Anders Jivarp extensively, so PFFFFFTTTT. :p

[i am the robots]

Oh man, from what I've heard Mikael Stanne is the nicest guy ever.

[PatientOfLakeshore]

You will not be disappointed.

The best part about seeing them, for me anyways, I just got to be in the same building as Opeth. Mikael Is great with the crowd. He makes jokes, and talks to the crowd and stuff.I'll be seeing them this summer at Sounds of the Underground. One of the many shows I'll be going to. :naughty:

[UpperDecker]

I have a newfound love for Ghost Reveries now. I never really listened to it as close as i did with the other albums and just assumed it wasn't as good. But now i'd say it actually is about as good as their other albums. Its just very different.

[Darkness]

Martin Henrikkson?
That's correct.

And yeah Eleventeen, Mikael Stanne seems like an awesome guy. I could tell from the way he was talking to the crowd.

[Crysiss]

I have a newfound love for Ghost Reveries now. I never really listened to it as close as i did with the other albums and just assumed it wasn't as good. But now i'd say it actually is about as good as their other albums. Its just very different.


Its not a bad album at all, Its just more different than all the other opeth albums.
I loved maybe the 2nd or 3rd time i heard it.

[Thor]

Does anyone know if there are any videos on the internet of Opeth playing anything off of Morningrise, Still Life, or Blackwater Park? If so, could you post it on here. Thanks.

[Jude]

There was some video of them playing Advent and Godhead's Lament (as well as 3 later songs) at some festival. I can't seem to find the link though.

[Stormrider]

Search it on youtube if you havn't. I'm just saying this, I havn't searched it.

[Darkness]

There was some video of them playing Advent and Godhead's Lament (as well as 3 later songs) at some festival. I can't seem to find the link though.
You meen this?

mms://straum.nrk.no/Musikk/2003-06-16/Opeth_300k.wmv

[UpperDecker]

You meen this?

mms://straum.nrk.no/Musikk/2003-06-16/Opeth_300k.wmv

Wow, its a hour long. GOOD FIND!

[Darkness]

Wow, its a hour long. GOOD FIND!
I can't take credit for it, someone else found it in this thread a while back.

[AA-12]

http://ytmnd.com/list/?search=opeth This is some of the best stuff i've ever seen.

[Jude]

Desperate tacos of the earth \m/

[Darkness]

Desperate tacos of the earth \m/
You meen Best Made Tacos of the Earth. :D

http://opethtacos.ytmnd.com/

[penelope weird hands]

^Hahaha, yeah, those ytmnd things are classic.

ARGH!
I am getting a badas$ cold now, a day before the concert.
My throat is fvcked. >:/

I guess I just have to be a vitamin slut and sip tea all day.

[Darkness]

Get lots of sleep to, and take a hot shower. That always fixes me right up. :cool:

[Crysiss]

You meen Best Made Tacos of the Earth. :D

http://opethtacos.ytmnd.com/

:lol: thats hilarious man. I cant believe I havent heard that

I like that "pray there are no weiners one" alot:)

[Mr. Ron]

You meen Best Made Tacos of the Earth. :D

http://opethtacos.ytmnd.com/
So thats the concept of that album....:eek:

[Kreator2112]

its kinda dumb how popular opeth is now of days. they basically went from unknown to headlining summer festivals.

[Mother]

Yeah just last year i was introducing my friends to the bands .. Now days I dont have to ask anyone new I meet if they heard of opeth.




So ... I was thinking Whats opeths Worst/Least Best album?

[Kreator2112]

doesnt worst mean least best? redundant?

Worst - Deliverance

Best - MAYH or Still Life

[Mother]

I know .. but when if I say only worst there will be some smart *** who says "they have no worst album". I just wanted to avoid that.

[guitrguy]

I dunno there are albums that I prefer over others, but I can't pin down a worst album.

Best would have to Morningrise for me.

[Kreator2112]

yea, in lamentations mikael described morningrise as their best album. there are elements to every album i like.

maybe deliverance is better than ghost reveries.

[Jude]

Best album....extremely hard to say. My FAVORITE would be Still Life, but most of their albums are in the running. Worst would have to be Orchid...bad production, weak, amateurish, sloppy songwriting, acoustic parts far less interesting than even on Morningrise...yeah.

[BurningSky]

My opinion of which album is best is always in constant rotation, but lately I've been listening to Morningrise the least. I'm pretty sure that I like Orchid better than Morningrise (except for BRI)...

I don't know, this opinion will be invalid a week from now...

[Hevy Tred]

Still life, is my favorite album.


It's a damned story! I always spend the hour listening to the whole album, first to last.

It's an experience, not a CD.

[Drone]

Yes, I love that album. Every song is amazing.

[Shadius]

http://ytmnd.com/list/?search=opeth This is some of the best stuff i've ever seen.

ROFL!

Clitoris race!

The picture that accompanies "I'm fixing a pair of Jeans" is so class

My favourite Opeth ALBUMS are Still Life, Damnation, Ghost Reveries and My Arms, Your Hearse. Blackwater Park has some of my favourite Opeth songs on it, Deliverance has two great Opeth songs on it, Morningrise also has two very good Opeth songs on it, Orchid isn't really to my tastes.. I think due to production and their songwriting ability at that point.

[eighty d]

yea, in lamentations mikael described morningrise as their best album.

No he didn't. He said that some people consider it to be their master work. And then said that there are parts of it that he can't even bear to listen to anymore.

[PatientOfLakeshore]

I like Ghost Reveries and Deliverance about the same. Still Life and Morning Rise are my favorites.

[Tyr]

Favourites: Still Life and MAYH.
Least favourite: Orchid

[JamJar]

Favourite: Still Life
Least Favourite: Morningrise

[Shattered_Future]

I still maintain my favorite is Blackwater Park...everything just blends together so well on that album...

Least favorite might have to be My Arms, Your Hearse. Not really sure why, it just doesn't appeal to me...

[Shadius]

I used to think it was weak, but seriously, just overall as an album it's amazing. Concept like Still Life, in fact, I see it as a slightly weaker Still Life really, except its darker and colder, and muddier. And the clean sections have more obvious 70's prog leanings with the effects used and such.

I just love the atmosphere of it now.

[Thor]

I still maintain my favorite is Blackwater Park...everything just blends together so well on that album...

Least favorite might have to be My Arms, Your Hearse. Not really sure why, it just doesn't appeal to me...
My thoughts exactly. MAYH, while not being bad, is just not as epic and wonderful as their other releases.

and yeah, BWP meshes so well together that I can listen to it all the way through countless times and never get tired of it. It's my favorite metal album of all time.

[AA-12]

Weird, MAYH is my favorite. It really, really affects me.

[Thor]

Everyone has different opinions about Opeth, so I wouldn't say you're wrong. The band has something for everyone so I can see if you like that album most.

The song that really blows my mind in terms of emotional greatness is "To Bid You Farewell". I don't know if I've heard a more beautiful song.

[AA-12]

Yeah, that song is amazing. By the way, I think I should become a reg in this thread, as I am a pretty big Opeth fanboy, haha.

[Thor]

Yeah man, the more the merrier. I'm trying to become a regular in here too, seeing as how Opeth is my favorite metal band.

[Crysiss]

:D This thread kinda dies down during the day at times. It'll be better with more people.

Favorite: MAYH
Least Fave:Orchid. Little flow in the album.

[Darkness]

I love Orchid... I can't even defend why, I just get such an amazing feeling listening to that album, that I get with no other Opeth. I'm not saying it's my favorite, but I like it alot.

[Shadius]

I wish I got it. I've tried to like it, and sadly I don't feel it. :(

[Darkness]

When those acoustic lines kick in on any of the songs... I just forget all my troubles. :) And I don't care how amaturish the songs sound, those acoustic parts...

/drools

[Shadius]

The stuff sounds cool, I just don't feel the songs.

Stupid brain!

[Crysiss]

The parts are great, I just dont really like the flow. One song seems like ten in one.
Its just my opinion though.

[AA-12]

Forest of October is one of my favorites. That one riff is just amazzzzing.

[Crysiss]

I like that one part in In the mist she was standing. that part around the 2 minute mark.

I love the album, Its just that its not my favorite Opeth album:D

[Stoo]

My favourite is between Blackwater Park/Still Life/Morningrise. :p

I have been waiting on Damnation and Deliverance from Amazon since January and they informed me yesterday that they "Could not source" Damnation. Ugh. So, another 2 weeks or so for Deliverance.

Where the hell can I get Damnation??

Anyway...

Least favoured album uhm... Orchid. I like it alot, but just like other albums more.

[Crysiss]

Cant you get damnation from a CD store? They're pretty common around here. They always have a copy.

[Darkness]

Yeah, I see Damnation everywhere.

[Stoo]

Cant you get damnation from a CD store? They're pretty common around here. They always have a copy.
not ****ing common here I'll tell you that for nothin.

It's annoying. I have gotten all 6 of my Opeth CD's from HMV etc... and I even saw D + D once in the same shop. On the same day. But I hadn't planned on buying them that day. So I didn't, and I haven't seen them since. :upset:

And on play.com they dont have either...

[Darkness]

Ask HMV if they can order it in for you.

[Crysiss]

Well thats gotta suck man. Is HMV over there really overpriced as well? They were trying to sell Orchid for 45$ couple months ago. Got reduced to 30 and I bought it.

HMV usually orders CDs for me if I ask:D

[Darkness]

On Monday I paid 65 bucks for Prometheus by Emperor, and Filosofem by Burzum...

[Stoo]

No, the prices are fine... I got Orchid and MAYH for like 10 quid. (as in 5 each).

I might ask them to get it in.

[AA-12]

Well thats gotta suck man. Is HMV over there really overpriced as well? They were trying to sell Orchid for 45$ couple months ago. Got reduced to 30 and I bought it.

HMV usually orders CDs for me if I ask:D
Orchid = $8 for me.
On Monday I paid 65 bucks for Prometheus by Emperor, and Filosofem by Burzum...
Wtffff, I got Prometheus for $10.

[Crysiss]

HMV= over priced metal CDs.

Canadian currency= 15% less that American.

[Thor]

On Monday I paid 65 bucks for Prometheus by Emperor, and Filosofem by Burzum...
Gah! Why would you do that?!

NP - Opeth - Windowpane

[Darkness]

Gah! Why would you do that?!

NP - Opeth - Windowpane
Because they slay.

[Det_Nosnip]

^^ That they do....but my copy of Prometheus was like $13. Why was yours so expensive? :confused:

I still maintain my favorite is Blackwater Park...everything just blends together so well on that album...

Least favorite might have to be My Arms, Your Hearse. Not really sure why, it just doesn't appeal to me...

Give it some time. I was the same way at first, but now it's one of my favorites.

[UpperDecker]

On itunes (if you have it) go to play count and see which song by opeth you've played the most. Mine is April Ethereal, The Moor, and Benighted in that order.

[Darkness]

^^ That they do....but my copy of Prometheus was like $13. Why was yours so expensive? :confused:
I have no idea, I got hosed for sure. But then again, I cannot find it at any other store. I checked another store in the same mall, they didn't even have a section for Emperor...

They must think us metal heads are made of money. :upset:

[guitrguy]

I have no idea, I got hosed for sure. But then again, I cannot find it at any other store. I checked another store in the same mall, they didn't even have a section for Emperor...

They must think us metal heads are made of money. :upset:
Or must think that they don't sell alot of metal CDS and have to make money some how.

[Darkness]

Lowering the prices would have been more effective. I would have bought another Emperor I had my eye on, as well as the 2 other Burzum albums they had. But they were all 30 dollars each, I wasn't going to spend 150 on 5 CDs!

[Jude]

My most played Opeth songs (since a few months ago when I started using Winamp)

Black Rose Immortal - 27
To Bid You Farewell - 16
Bleak - 9
White Cluster - 8
The Leper Affinity - 7
Nectar - 7
TNATSW - 7
BTISIO - 6
Face of Melinda - 6

Whoa wtf? I went and did it on Porcupine Tree and my most played song is Open Car?!?!?!? at 29?!? And SOSB is 27 and Trains is only number 3 at 26?!?!?

[Kage]

On that note, I actually tend to listen to my favorite songs less, so it's always a special experience when I do.

[guitrguy]

My most played Opeth songs (since a few months ago when I started using Winamp)

Black Rose Immortal - 27
To Bid You Farewell - 16
Bleak - 9
White Cluster - 8
The Leper Affinity - 7
Nectar - 7
TNATSW - 7
BTISIO - 6
Face of Melinda - 6

Whoa wtf? I went and did it on Porcupine Tree and my most played song is Open Car?!?!?!? at 29?!? And SOSB is 27 and Trains is only number 3 at 26?!?!?
MAybe its because Mikael appears in Open Car.

[Mr. Ron]

MAybe its because Mikael appears in Open Car.
.......he does?

[guitrguy]

.......he does?
Yep, hes appear on one or two more songs on Deadwing. I think he lends some of his leads in Open Car.

[Kage]

He plays an AMAZING jazz solo in Arriving Somewhere But Not Here.

[Mr. Ron]

Damnit, I never knew this.

/orders deadwing

[Kage]

Damnit, I never knew this.

/orders deadwing
A good choice, regardless. :)

[guitrguy]

A good choice, regardless. :)
ITs a grat album. Its the album that got me into PT.

[Mr. Ron]

How absolutely sick would it be if Wilson and Akerfeldt did a side project together?

[guitrguy]

How absolutely sick would it be if Wilson and Akerfeldt did a side project together?
There's been talk about it for a while now.

[Crysiss]

I'd like to see it happen:)

[JamJar]

And Mike Portnoy is meant to be a part. I hope that because of a Dream Theater member being there it doesn't mean over extended, self indulgent solos.

[espjunkie]

Yea Mikeal does some cool sounding rake leads on that song..

[Happy]

And Mike Portnoy is meant to be a part. I hope that because of a Dream Theater member being there it doesn't mean over extended, self indulgent solos.
Someone has a different view to me :p
But yeah, I guess they do get boring after a while but I don't think Portnoy is responsible for the 12 minute guitar solos.

[penelope weird hands]

Yeah, yeah.. Porcupine Tree rocks yadda yadda yadda... who cares.

I'm kidding.. :)

Sorry to break the topic and all, but... I see Opeth in less than two hours. :P

Fvck I'm excited!!@
I look forward to my ears being barraged by some form of heaven-sex.
Plus, I am a virgin to their live show so.. yeah.

W00H00!

I'll be sure to tell you all how it went.

Have a good day and/or night.
:wave:

[Thor]

And Mike Portnoy is meant to be a part. I hope that because of a Dream Theater member being there it doesn't mean over extended, self indulgent solos.
Yeah, I was hoping the same thing. Akerfeldt and Wilson would probably let him play some sweeeet drum parts but would still keep him in line. I'm really looking forward to that happening.

[Jude]

How absolutely sick would it be if Wilson and Akerfeldt did a side project together?
Dude, they are doing a side project together. With Mike Portnoy. It's going to be amazing.

I don't think Mikael is on Open Car...he did backup vocals on some tracks, the mellow solo on ASBNH, but I don't think anything on Open Car. The reason I think I was listening to that song so much was because of the chorus, it has such a mellow mood.

And yeah, BRI is one of my favorite songs, but my real favorite by Opeth is Face of Melinda and that only has 6 plays. And my favorite song ever, Echoes by the Floyd, barely has any plays. Go figure.

[Thor]

...and Maynard's going to be there too?

/ I keed, I keed.

[Shadius]

On itunes (if you have it) go to play count and see which song by opeth you've played the most. Mine is April Ethereal, The Moor, and Benighted in that order.

Note: This is my computer at home, and my one at Uni will display very different results, not to mention my mp3 player.

Leper Affinity - 19
Then the next 3 tracks from Blackwater Park.
Then Windowpane and To Rid the Disease.

I think I was just getting into Opeth on this computer and those two albums got me into them.

At Uni I *think* Ghost Reveries may be at the top, or Still Life.

On my mp3 player MAYH is at the top, probably followed by Still Life.

Yeah, some songs are so good you just don't want to overplay them. I find that, and equally, some songs are an experience, and you like/love it, but arn't always in the mood to listen to such a long song.

It's like.. you can say what your favourite movies are after only watching them one or two times. The same can sometimes apply to songs, I guess.

[Stoo]

My iTunes doesn't show my play count. :upset:

I changed it so that it does but it's all back at zero. Boo.

[Knifeboy]

I only listen to Opeth via my cd player.. Wich doesn't go on my last.fm playlist

[Shadius]

lol, my Porcupine Tree plays on this PC are so steriotypical.

Shallow - 16
Sound of Muzak - 15
Lazarus - 14

They're not my favourite PT songs, well, maybe Sound of Muzak is, the other two are just good songs. I'm really digging the songs in the vein of Start of Something Beautiful, Heart Attack in a Layby, Collapse Light into Earth. They write them very well.

[matt4]

NOTE:
Mikael is on #'s 1, 3, and 5 on Porcupine. He does some vocals on all three, actually. I'm pretty sure that's Mike's voice in Arriving Somewhere, but not Here, at least.... I know he plays a kick *** solo! Anyway, it's all in the album notes.

[Mr. Ron]

Dude, they are doing a side project together. With Mike Portnoy. It's going to be amazing.

I don't think Mikael is on Open Car...he did backup vocals on some tracks, the mellow solo on ASBNH, but I don't think anything on Open Car. The reason I think I was listening to that song so much was because of the chorus, it has such a mellow mood.

And yeah, BRI is one of my favorite songs, but my real favorite by Opeth is Face of Melinda and that only has 6 plays. And my favorite song ever, Echoes by the Floyd, barely has any plays. Go figure.
Good god.....

[Det_Nosnip]

He plays an AMAZING jazz solo in Arriving Somewhere But Not Here.

Yeah, that solo is incredible.

Has it occured to anyone else of the irony that Steve Wilson recruited someone from a death metal band to play a jazz solo? :lol:

[Det_Nosnip]

With Mike Portnoy

Only snag in it for me. :( He seriously could ruin the project.

[Happy]

Only snag in it for me. :( He seriously could ruin the project.
Why do you think that?

Not being rude or anything.

[Shadius]

Portnoy is a great drummer!

It wouldn't sound anything like Dream Theater or LTE, the music surrounding the drumming would be totally different. If there was to be a drummer involved in this project, the ones that would spring to mind for me would be Danny Carey, Josh Freese, Mike Portnoy, even martin Lopez. They'd all fit the project for me.

[the2stranger]

Portnoy is a great drummer!

It wouldn't sound anything like Dream Theater or LTE, the music surrounding the drumming would be totally different. If there was to be a drummer involved in this project, the ones that would spring to mind for me would be Danny Carey, Josh Freese, Portnoy,n martin Lopez. They'd all fit the project for me.

:lol:

EDIT: damn you Shadius, you edited before I could quote it :p

[JamJar]

I'd love to see Danny Carey in the project. Damn I just can't get over how much of a great drummer he is and how I love his style.

My top 8 played Opeth tracks are all the Damnation tracks (all in their 20s) and my top played PT song is Lazarus (30).

[Shadius]

:lol:

EDIT: damn you Shadius, you edited before I could quote it :p

Har har. :lol:

[Laztec]

Only snag in it for me. :( He seriously could ruin the project.

What?? How so?

[Happy]

I'd love to see Danny Carey in the project. Damn I just can't get over how much of a great drummer he is and how I love his style.

My top 8 played Opeth tracks are all the Damnation tracks (all in their 20s) and my top played PT song is Lazarus (30).
Off topic but what Tool songs really show Carey's skills?

[JamJar]

Reflection, Ticks And Leeches, Lateralus, The Grudge and Aenima are proabably some of his best work.

[Happy]

Reflection, Ticks And Leeches, Lateralus, The Grudge and Aenima are proabably some of his best work.
Cool thanks.

[Kage]

As we've been saying in the Porcupine Tree thread, I think Portnoy is absolutely the wrong choice for a drummer in the Wilson/Akerfeldt project.

[Jude]

Good god.....
?

As for Portnoy, I've barely ever listened to Dream Theater so I know nothing about what kind of drummer he is. I've just heard he's good. But the point is, Wilson + Akerfeldt = ****-mazing

[Crysiss]

Im finally checking out Camel. I dont like the whistling in the songs, but I see the influence.

[Shadows]

I can't stand Portnoy or anything related to Dream Theater, so he definitely wouldn't be my first choice for an Akerfeldt/Wilson project.

[i am the robots]

Portnoy's a good drummer, he's just so damn overrated.

[JamJar]

Indeed he is overrated and has an unhumanly sized kit. Why do you need three bass drums?

[Happy]

It's two kits put together. He plays different kits for different songs.

[Moses]

Mike Portnoy's old style might go a bit better with Akerfeldt and Wilson but I'd prefer a more jazz/hip-hop influenced drummer. I think Abe from Deftones would do well with those two.

[Crysiss]

That would be interesting Moses.

[Moses]

Or even better, Danny Carey.

[JamJar]

I can't stop whoring Danny Carey, I love his drumming style too much. :(

[Shadius]

I think Portnoy would be versitile enough to pull it off, tbh. He's not going to be showing off any overly complex beats and such, if he does it wouldn't even fit the music, and Steve and Mikael would be like... wtf, get out.

It'd be like a Flea in the Mars Volta type situation, his basslines on De-Loused bare no resemblance to anything he's done with the Chilli's, and it works really well.

[AA-12]

On the opposite spectrum, this owns for me.

Mikael = Favorite singer/maybe guitarist
Portnoy = Favorite drummer
Wilson = Great producer

[3FingeredHoek]

Mike Portnoy's old style might go a bit better with Akerfeldt and Wilson but I'd prefer a more jazz/hip-hop influenced drummer. I think Abe from Deftones would do well with those two.


Man he's soo underated. :chug:

EDIT: Referring to Abe.

[Deth]

Thomas Haarke ftw.

Kick up the ol' technicality meter.

[Thor]

Portnoy's a good drummer, he's just so damn overrated.
I'll drink to that. :chug:

I'd rather have them use Bobby Jarzombek or Gene Hoglan.

[Mr. Ron]

?

As for Portnoy, I've barely ever listened to Dream Theater so I know nothing about what kind of drummer he is. I've just heard he's good. But the point is, Wilson + Akerfeldt = ****-mazing
Good god meaning, I want to hear them.

[Thor]

?

As for Portnoy, I've barely ever listened to Dream Theater so I know nothing about what kind of drummer he is. I've just heard he's good. But the point is, Wilson + Akerfeldt = ****-mazing
Well since you're not really acquainted with Portnoy, here's a rather famous video of him just so you can understand how good he really is.

http://drummerworld.com/Videos/mikeportnoysolo.html
/laughs at his stupid facial expressions.

[Insipid2000]

Or even better, Danny Carey.

Definitly:thumb:

[Crysiss]

Well since you're not really acquainted with Portnoy, here's a rather famous video of him just so you can understand how good he really is.

http://drummerworld.com/Videos/mikeportnoysolo.html
/laughs at his stupid facial expressions.

/laughs as well.

I cant see the 3 of them playing together.

[Thor]

I can easily see Wilson and Akerfeldt playing, seeing as how they already have in past Opeth albums, but I can agree with not seeing Portnoy not playing with them. They seem more like a group that would have Danny Carey or someone along the lines of that.

[Darkness]

Mikael seems to be good friends with Portnoy though. He doesn't even know Danny Carey. Mikael even thanks Portnoy and Dream Theater in the booklet to Ghost Reveries. And it's not like Portnoy wouldn't know what he's doing with them, he's a farily technical, prog rock/metal drummer, I'm sure whatever he does with Mikael and Wilson will be great.

[Thor]

Oh, I was unaware of the Ghost Reveries shoutout. That changes my opinion on things. If they do actually record an album together I'll surely be getting it as soon as it is released.

[Knifeboy]

I think Portnoy would be versitile enough to pull it off, tbh. He's not going to be showing off any overly complex beats and such, if he does it wouldn't even fit the music, and Steve and Mikael would be like... wtf, get out.


Portnoy isn't versatile though.. He's got no groove and sense of dynamics, Lopez and Gavin Harrison (PT's drummer) is in a completely different league to Portnoy

[Thor]

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. While I can't stand Dream Theater as a band, I have the utmost respect for their abilities. Portnoy is capable of doing many different things on a drumset and is at a higher level than Lopez is.

[Darkness]

Portnoys a fine drummer Knifeboy. Listen to the Awake album, he's got enough groove and dynamics to be able to work with Mike and Steve.

[Thor]

This is a hopeless dream, but I'd love to hear Bobby Jarzombek play with them instead of Portnoy. That would be a musical orgasm at it's finest.

[Knifeboy]

I've heard all of DT's catalogue, and I'd say that Mike Portnoy wouldn't be able to write anything like the drumparts for Windowpane or PT's The creator has a mastertape....

[Thor]

He's got enough skill and plenty of time to come up with new ideas so I think he would be able to. I think you're underestimating Portnoy's potential.

[Knifeboy]

I'd love it for him to prove me wrong......

[Det_Nosnip]

Why do you think that?

Not being rude or anything.

Because he's a terrible drummer. His feel is completely flat, very robotic touch...I don't think I've ever heard him groove. He's been reusing the same goddam licks since Awake, and about the only thing that seems to change about him is the size of his kit. Steven would be better off just dragging Gavin Harrison with him, as he is 100x the musician that Portnoy will ever be.

This is a hopeless dream, but I'd love to hear Bobby Jarzombek play with them instead of Portnoy. That would be a musical orgasm at it's finest.

Jarzombek would be a decent choice. Sean Reinert would be awesome as well.
PT's The creator has a mastertape....

Honestly, he doesn't even have the chops for that. Some of the licks that Gavin pulls in that song are just sick.

If push came to shove and Portnoy ended up having to cover the song, I would put money on the fact that he would replace every fill Gavin played with hand/foot trades. :lol:

[Stormrider]

woah triple post :p

[Det_Nosnip]

Don't worry, I'm cleaning it up.

[Deth]

Wow, Reinert would be really good.

[Det_Nosnip]

^^ Yeah...now THAT is a well-rounded musician.

Reflection, Ticks And Leeches, Lateralus, The Grudge and Aenima are proabably some of his best work.

You forgot 46&2. :)

[Darkness]

Wow, Reinert would be really good.
I've only heard his work with Death, and it was pretty awesome. He probably would do well with them.

[AA-12]

Yeah, Portnoy has a ton of groove and feel. I don't get the whole OMGHEJUSTPLAYSTECHNICALSTUFFFAST.

[Det_Nosnip]

Well, groove is a hard thing for some people to grasp.

I've only heard his work with Death, and it was pretty awesome. He probably would do well with them.

Oh, man...that's barely a taste of what he can do. Check out Aghora's self titled album - incredible work there. Cynic - Focus was the classic album that really introduced him to the scene, and his work with Gordian Knot is fantastic.

[Darkness]

Yeah, I've heard a few Cynic tracks (thanks to Flynn), and they were pretty decent to.

[Hive]

Hey, I tried this a few months ago and got like 2 responses before I was drowned out in the usual "official thread" mindless banter, but here goes...

I recently got my copy of Lamentations signed by Opeth at Scrape Records in Vancouver. It's super cool, but I can't tell whos signature is whos! Does anyone else have anything signed by Opeth that they can compare this to to help me out? Can anyone identify these scribbles?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/stefanreindl/c2417ecb.jpg

I'm pretty sure the bottom right is Per Wiberg, but beyond that I'm lost!

[Darkness]

Mikaels is the one right next to Pers, thats the only one I can pull from memory. I'll to take a look at my signed stuff closly...

[Crysiss]

I cant identify any of them. I dont have any signed stuff to analyze it either:(

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Is there any Opeth fans from Sydney here?I was just wondering if they are going to be doing any in-store signing at Utopia Records?

[Shadius]

I've heard all of DT's catalogue, and I'd say that Mike Portnoy wouldn't be able to write anything like the drumparts for Windowpane or PT's The creator has a mastertape....

The drum parts to Porcupine Tree never really stood out to me. The guy has good groove, definately, I always feel like he should change the beats up a bit more, add some simple, tasteful fills in more often, to be honest. He's a *very* solid drummer with good groove, but Portnoy... Man, if Flea can drop his happy slapping and popping and create some tasteful interesting basslines than Portnoy can tone down while still keeping things interesting.

You know, I'm not saying there arn't better drummers, but I think Portnoy would be a decent choice. Personally I think Lopez would be better because I love his style, or Danny Carey, but he's more unlikely. I think it would be more interesting to see what Portnoy can do in the situation than PT's drummer...seeing as we know what he can do with Steve anyway.

[Knifeboy]

The drum parts to Porcupine Tree never really stood out to me. The guy has good groove, definately, I always feel like he should change the beats up a bit more, add some simple, tasteful fills in more often, to be honest. He's a *very* solid drummer with good groove, but Portnoy... Man, if Flea can drop his happy slapping and popping and create some tasteful interesting basslines than Portnoy can tone down while still keeping things interesting.

As Det mentioned on the previous page.. Gavin Harrisons drumming is far from "toned down" compared to Portnoy's drumming...

[Laztec]

I know this has been asked a thousand times. But can you recommend an Opeth album that I should start out on?

Thanks:thumb:

[Thor]

I know this has been asked a thousand times. But can you recommend an Opeth album that I should start out on?

Thanks:thumb:
Well, a good way to start would be on Still Life, methinks. It's a very strong impression of what the band is about.

[Darkness]

Or Blackwater Park, as it is usually easier to find in stores, and still a good starter album.


Back to the drummer discussion. If Lopez joined in with Mike and Steve, it would probably sound a lot similar to stuff we've already heard (the Opeth albums with Steve on them..) or if PTs drummer joined, it would probably sound like Mikael joins PT. If Portnoy joins... well, it could be something intirely new.

[Stoo]

They would be making a mistake to limit it to those 3 drummers though...

[Darkness]

Yeah, but it IS Portnoy, people here are just saying they use one of these 2 instead.

[guitrguy]

They would be making a mistake to limit it to those 3 drummers though...
Are they limiting it to those three drummers?

[Stoo]

Yeah, but it IS Portnoy, people here are just saying they use one of these 2 instead.
Oh have they selcted him already?

I see...

Will be intresting no matter what drummer.

[G_Mac07]

Is there any Opeth fans from Sydney here?I was just wondering if they are going to be doing any in-store signing at Utopia Records?

Doesn't look like it (http://www.utopia.com.au/sections/instores/).

I was hoping that they'd do an in store in Brisbane as well, at Skinny's Music. They did one there last time they were here. Unfortunately, stupid Coheed And Cambria is taking up all the instore spaces, by the looks of things.

[Det_Nosnip]

The drum parts to Porcupine Tree never really stood out to me.
So I take it you've never heard Blackest Eyes, then? Sound of Muzak? Creator Had a Mastertape? Halo? :confused:

The guy has good groove, definately,
Understatement of the century.

I always feel like he should change the beats up a bit more, add some simple, tasteful fills in more often, to be honest. He's a *very* solid drummer with good groove, but Portnoy... Man, if Flea can drop his happy slapping and popping and create some tasteful interesting basslines than Portnoy can tone down while still keeping things interesting.
It's not an issue of toning down. Although Mike does overplay from time to time, it's the fact that he plays with such unbelieveable disregard for groove, feel, or finesse that bothers me about him.

[Thor]

Understatement of the century.
I don't think you should blow Lopez out of proportion. He's really good, but not as good as most Opeth fans think of him being.

[Toaster]

I don't think you should blow Lopez out of proportion. He's really good, but not as good as most Opeth fans think of him being.

Actually, I think it's the opposite. Most people don't know how good he really is.

[Thor]

I'm definitely not saying that he's bad or anything, but all I'm saying is that tons of Opeth fans like to say that he's one of the best drummers ever. I don't think he's like to 10 worthy or anything, but he's certainly a solid percussionst.

[guitrguy]

I'm definitely not saying that he's bad or anything, but all I'm saying is that tons of Opeth fans like to say that he's one of the best drummers ever. I don't think he's like to 10 worthy or anything, but he's certainly a solid percussionst.I have never heard any Opeth fan, or anyone for that matter say hes the best ever.

[Thor]

Well I was exaggerating there, but I just know that Opeth fans say that he's one of the best drummers in metal.

If you want to talk about the most talent in Opeth, let's stick to talking about Akerfeldt. :thumb: I actually think that he is one of music's best musicians right now.

[matt4]

I'm a huge fan of the guy's in Dream Theater/Liquid Tension Experiment. I just wish Labrie would shut the hell up, you know? I hope that the project does get recorded, and I feel confident that Portnoy will pull of something great. I honestly think everyone here is totally underestimating his abilities. However, I think the most interesting drummer proposed so far (in this thread) is Abe Cunningham from Deftones. THAT would be perfect!

[Toaster]

Well I was exaggerating there, but I just know that Opeth fans say that he's one of the best drummers in metal.

If you want to talk about the most talent in Opeth, let's stick to talking about Akerfeldt. :thumb: I actually think that he is one of music's best musicians right now.

I think Lopez is by far the most technically gifted member of Opeth. The guitar playing in Opeth isn't that impressive, really. Could you clarify what you mean by "musician"?

[Thor]

Well we can all dream, but that would never happen. I bet Portnoy will come in and do a great job, despite what people may think.

I think Lopez is by far the most technically gifted member of Opeth. The guitar playing in Opeth isn't that impressive, really. Could you clarify what you mean by "musician"?
Maybe I should have said songwriter instead.

[Crysiss]

Thats quite a better word. Akerfeldt is amazing.

[Flynn]

Portnoy isn't versatile though.. He's got no groove and sense of dynamics, Lopez and Gavin Harrison (PT's drummer) is in a completely different league to Portnoy


Agreed.