Opeth

[Shadows]

Holy ****, I just listened to Death's Sacred Serenity for seemingly the first time. That is some sweet ****ing metal.

[Flynn]

Want the rest? :chug:

[Shadows]

Hell yes! :)

[Crysiss]

Isn't there a band called Isolation Years?

[Flynn]

Yes. And just by looking at their track titles, it's probably something I'll never own in my lifetime.


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[TojesDolan]

These last 3 posts, I am totally lost... :confused:
In Mexico, can't remember what part exactly, there's this tradition that in Easter, there's a play about the Passion of the Christ, in which this person makes the whole ordeal Jesus went through, and carrying a big cross and all that jazz.

But then there's people who like to flagelate themselves and they hit themselves with sticks or whips, or walk in their knees uphill to the church in what they call "mandas" or oaths they make with God in order to get something, like health, good riddance, or whatever.

The last one is silly, but the first part is kind of interesting.

[Flynn]

In Mexico, can't remember what part exactly, there's this tradition that in Easter, there's a play about the Passion of the Christ, in which this person makes the whole ordeal Jesus went through, and carrying a big cross and all that jazz.

But then there's people who like to flagelate themselves and they hit themselves with sticks or whips, or walk in their knees uphill to the church in what they call "mandas" or oaths they make with God in order to get something, like health, good riddance, or whatever.

The last one is silly, but the first part is kind of interesting.



...and that has something to do with Opeth how?

[JamJar]

How about we go into Opeth stuff like more pointless lists?

[UpperDecker]

One of you on here told me you were learning The Moor on guitar. How is that coming along?

[BurningSky]

I tried to learn The Moor on guitar a few months ago. I turned out to be too hard/I didn't have the patience to learn all of the difficult riffs. Yesterday, I learned Paranoid Android by Radiohead. Maybe I'll go back to trying to learn The Moor again...

[JamJar]

The main bit of playing The Moor which annoys the hell outta me is in the first verse:

B|---2--
G|-6----

My fingers refuse to play those two notes in quick succession without sounding horribly muted.

[Crysiss]

Trying to learn the leper affinity right now. Man the riffs are tough, Im gonna get it though

[Jude]

You think learning their stuff on guitar is hard, try learning Mendez' parts. You can't even HEAR them, for one thing :angry:

[Crysiss]

My friend has that tascam GT-1. I dont know what he does but he kind of makes the guitars go quieter. You can hear the bass much more.

[Deth]

You think learning their stuff on guitar is hard, try learning Mendez' parts. You can't even HEAR them, for one thing :angry:
I don't find it too hard to learn them.

[BurningSky]

You think learning their stuff on guitar is hard, try learning Mendez' parts. You can't even HEAR them, for one thing :angry:

I can play most of the Damnation stuff on bass as well as The Drapery Falls. Playing Opeth is a lot of fun on bass...

[Det_Nosnip]

No actually it's a very old ritual prepared and the whole staging is pretty serious and interesting.

I'm talking about the play performed in.. eh, forgot the city.

But if you're talking about the drunk ****s that nail themseleves to the crosses and beat themselves with whips and/or sticks. Yeah they are very wrong.

What? No, I'm talking about people who are simply named Jesus. People were talking earlier about how Mikael's daughter should be creeped out knowing that she was named after a woman who was brutally killed, and I was pointing out that there are alot of people who are named Jesus who probably aren't creeped out for being named after J.C., who died on the cross.

[Stormrider]

The main bit of playing The Moor which annoys the hell outta me is in the first verse:

B|---2--
G|-6----

My fingers refuse to play those two notes in quick succession without sounding horribly muted.

Yeah, its gotten better for me with practice, but that part is really anoying.

[Shadius]

But... G-6 is C# and B-2 is C#... they're the same note. Why would you need to do that?

[Crysiss]

I think its so the notes could ring into each other:)

[JamJar]

Sorry, I wrongley named the strings. The notes are on the D and G strings. So it goes up a semitone.

[Shadius]

ohh, creepy stuff. I love that song, anyways, one of my favourite Opeth songs.

[Crysiss]

:lol:

so why not play it

G------6-7---|

????

[JamJar]

Because you need to let the notes ring.

[Crysiss]

I think its so the notes could ring into each other:)


So its like I said up here. I see.

[Deth]

Crazy guitar players and their chords. You're so silly.

[UpperDecker]

I just came to the conclusion that My Arms, Your Hearse is infact Opeth's heaviest and best album. Here's why. All the songs are amazingly thought out and flow together, the concept is great and its cool that the last word of each song is the first of the next, the growls are the best out of all their releases(imo), this cd contains the best riffs Opeth have ever made. I'll end my ranting now. This cd just blows me away. Oh and i forgot, very vivid and thought provoking lyrics.

[Deth]

It's a shame the booklet sucks so much for MAYH. If the presentation of it had the shine of Still Life, it would be the perfect compliment to the story. I would have love to have seen more artwork and the lyrics presented better.

[UpperDecker]

It's a shame the booklet sucks so much for MAYH. If the presentation of it had the shine of Still Life, it would be the perfect compliment to the story. I would have love to have seen more artwork and the lyrics presented better.

Doesn't it say in the booklet that Michael pretty much made the album himself. If thats true he truly is a genius because all of the instruments are top noch.

[RustedPieces]

I've just recently been getting into Opeth, over the past month or so. I've avoided them before because I thought they were some generic death metal band. Wow I was wrong, they are amazing. They write the best ballads I have ever heard from any band.

[UpperDecker]

I've just recently been getting into Opeth, over the past month or so. I've avoided them before because I thought they were some generic death metal band. Wow I was wrong, they are amazing. They write the best ballads I have ever heard from any band.

Definitely, atleast from all the bands i've heard. If you haven't yet, check out A Fair Judgement[I], [I]To Bid You Farewell, and Still Day Beneath The Sun. All of them are really amazing.

[RustedPieces]

Definitely, atleast from all the bands i've heard. If you haven't yet, check out A Fair Judgement[I], [I]To Bid You Farewell, and Still Day Beneath The Sun. All of them are really amazing.
Yeah, I've heard them all. To Bid You Farewell was actually the song that got me into them. It's a really good song. I really like In My Time Of Need, The Drapery Falls, Windowpane. Ghost of Perdition is a good song too.

[Killtacular]

...the growls are the best out of all their releases(imo)...
Still Life for the win!

[Flynn]

I just came to the conclusion that My Arms, Your Hearse is infact Opeth's heaviest and best album. Here's why. All the songs are amazingly thought out and flow together, the concept is great and its cool that the last word of each song is the first of the next, the growls are the best out of all their releases(imo), this cd contains the best riffs Opeth have ever made. I'll end my ranting now. This cd just blows me away. Oh and i forgot, very vivid and thought provoking lyrics.



This is true. :chug:

[JamJar]

Still Life for the win!

Quoted for fothermucking truth.

[Killtacular]

Right on, brotha.

:hi5:

[JamJar]

You should so cross out the burger on your avatar and leave it at king, because you are king for thinking that Still Life is their best.

/returns hi5

[Stormrider]

Stop sucking up :p joking

[UpperDecker]

Opeth need to track down their old bass player and kick out the other dude. Now the current guy isn't bad but the old bass player was soo much better.

[JamJar]

IMO the old bass parts (quite obviously refering to Morningrise) were sometimes way too hectic, and sometimes the song just didn't need that.

444 posts... I'm 2/3 of the way to the devil mwahahaha!

[Darkness]

I agree, some of the bass on Morningrise can be annoying. Mendez is much more enjoyable.

[Shadius]

Opeth need to track down their old bass player and kick out the other dude. Now the current guy isn't bad but the old bass player was soo much better.

Not really, he just played higher up a lot, and was more about improvising. Dosn't mean he was better.

Mendez can play his parts when they do the Orchid/Morningrise songs, but the parts he writes are more bassy, which is, IMO (and in the opinion of Opeth) what the band needs.

[Stoo]

Wait... Mike done the Morningrise bass?

[Darkness]

No...?

[Stoo]

What the fudge. I don't know what I'm thinkin of but I'm sure I head sumwhere that he did the bass on an album because at the time of the recording Opeth did not have a bassist therefore Mikael did it?

[Darkness]

He did, on My Arms, Your Hearse.

[Stoo]

Ahh okay. I was thinking of that. For ages I thought it was Morningrise. Oh well.

[RustedPieces]

I think the bass on To Bid You Farewell is amazing, not sure of the others though.

[vashts80]

Opeth need to track down their old bass player and kick out the other dude. Now the current guy isn't bad but the old bass player was soo much better.

The Orchid/Morningrise songs were more riff-based (because they were playing that Gothenburg riff style then), and therefore they needed a lead bass to fill the void left by the absense of chords. Now that they play more chordal-based stuff (since MAYH), a lead bassist wouldn't work.

Mike also recorded the bass on MAYH, because I believe that they didn't have time to teach Mendez all of the basslines, so Mike just recorded it himself.

[JamJar]

I think the bass on To Bid You Farewell is amazing, not sure of the others though.

I completely agree. The bass on TBYF is amazing fun to play.

[vashts80]

I completely agree. The bass on TBYF is amazing fun to play.

I can't play the "double-stop" part at like 5:15 right. It's hard.

[Shadius]

Yeah, the bass in TBYF is great stuff, but thats easily my favourite song on that album anyway, overall.

[RustedPieces]

I like the diversity of Mikael's voice, he has some of the best death metal vocals I've heard and his clean voice is really amazing, like in Hours of Wealth.

[Kage]

The bassist on Morningrise was terrible. He did not know his place in the music, and the way his parts stuck out was distracting, contrary to a lot of peoples' belief that if you can hear a bass part in a metal song it must be great.

[Darkness]

The bassist on Morningrise was terrible. He did not know his place in the music, and the way his parts stuck out was distracting, contrary to a lot of peoples' belief that if you can hear a bass part in a metal song it must be great.
I agree, it was distracting.

[Stormrider]

Yeah, I agree too. At times it was.

[Kage]

There's a certain niche that bass fits into in music. The great thing about the current bassist is that he can always find that niche perfectly and use it to his advantage. The old one could not.

Oh, and those god-awful effects he would use sometimes.

[Toaster]

There's a certain niche that bass fits into in music. The great thing about the current bassist is that he can always find that niche perfectly and use it to his advantage. The old one could not.

Oh, and those god-awful effects he would use sometimes.
I think the word you're looking for is "tasteful", which Johan wasn't.

[Crysiss]

Johans styling was pretty odd. But I like some of it.

[Deth]

If you had your way, there wouldn't be any bass player :p.

I love Johan and Martin and each complemented the albums they were on perfectly. I do wish Martin was higher in the mix though.

[New name Spiraldown]

I have been listening to Opeth for a while now but dont have any albums from them I was thinking about Ghost Reveries but can anyone suggest what I should get first?

[Darkness]

Nah, that was a weak effort from the band. Get Blackwater Park or Still Life first.

[RustedPieces]

Nah, that was a weak effort from the band. Get Blackwater Park or Still Life first.
Really? I thought Ghost Reveries wasn't bad at all. It has some great songs on it.

[Darkness]

Yeah, it's got a few good tunes. But as a whole, fails compared to the likes of the albums I mentioned before. IMO, anyway.

[New name Spiraldown]

Ok, thanks

[UpperDecker]

Just to let you all know, i wasn't bashing their current bassist. He is very skilled, i just think their old bassist was really great. But yea, the older bassists style probably wouldn't mesh good with their more recent styles. Their first bassist had some cool funky lines.

[vashts80]

There's a certain niche that bass fits into in music. The great thing about the current bassist is that he can always find that niche perfectly and use it to his advantage. The old one could not.

Oh, and those god-awful effects he would use sometimes.

Like I said on the last page, Johan filled in the void left by the absense of chordal-based guitars on Orchid/Morningrise. He wouldn't fit in if he was on MAYH or any of the albums after that, because they moved away from the harmony guitars and into more chordal-based stuff.

[Killtacular]

I really don't like their old drummer. Anders Whatshisface.

[Shadows]

The two Martins completely own the old guys. The drum tone on Ghost Reveries is one of the best I've ever heard.

[Killtacular]

I wouldn't know. I haven't listened to "that album" in months.

[JamJar]

Ghost Of Perdition and Isolation years are easily my two favourites on the album. But definitely get Blackwater Park or Still Life first.

[Slapping Penguin]

Oh, and those god-awful effects he would use sometimes.

:O The bass at the start of Black Rose Immortal has some of the coolest scarist bass tone ever.

[Shadius]

Nah, that was a weak effort from the band. Get Blackwater Park or Still Life first.

As if, it's one of their best albums. Silly Ghost Reveries haters. :p

I would recommend Still Life and Blackwater Park for definitive Opeth albums though, and Damnation if you're looking for something mellow.

If you're a death metal guy, My Arms, Your Hearse Might be your best bet.

And if you're a Gothenburg lover go for Morningrise.

[Jude]

Dude stop hating on Johan. Sure he used some annoying phasers now and then but To Bid You Farewell by itself makes up for anything bad he might have done.

[metalhead_matt]

what do you guys think to the ghost reveries album?

[Darkness]

what do you guys think to the ghost reveries album?
Some good songs, some bad ones.

[Stoo]

I like it alot. But I like all their albums. Personally I would have liked a long ballad track instead of just a few shortish mellow songs. Something along the lines of Face Of Melinda/TBYF.

As far as getting into Opeth in concerned choose either Still Life or Blackwater Park, it's a more true reflection of Opeth...

[metalhead_matt]

which ones are good/bad

[Tyr]

Some good songs, some bad ones.
Exactly. :thumb:

[metalhead_matt]

to bid you farewell is awesome :)

[Darkness]

which ones are good/bad
I like the first three a lot, then it falls apart, then Isolation Years was kinda cool. The Grand Conjuration is better live.

[Stoo]

which ones are good/bad
The only ones I think worth Downloading if that is infact what you're doing are...

Ghost Of Perdition
The Baying of The Hounds
The Grand Conjuration
Isolation Years.
Possibly Hours Of Wealth.

[metalhead_matt]

ive got the album, i was just wondering what you guys thought of it, because i havent listened to it all yet. i was uploading it, got through ghost of perdition then went to play guitar for a bit so i didnt hear the others, but ghost of perdition was good :)

[Tyr]

Ghost of Perdition's good, but there's definitely some less good songs on the album as well. Not bad songs all in all, but with Opeth's usual standard... some of the songs aren't up to that standard.

[Sixty Ton Angel]

Hey guys, just picked up Still Life.
Ripping it to my computer and listening to the Moor now.

How do you all compare it with the rest of their albums?
(First Opeth album I've bought)

[RustedPieces]

Reverie/Harlequin Forest is a strange song. It's not bad IMO though.

[vashts80]

Reverie/Harlequin Forest is a strange song. It's not bad IMO though.

The bit starting at 2:54 kind of reminds me of the part in Serenity Painted Death that starts at 1:30

[RustedPieces]

The bit starting at 2:54 kind of reminds me of the part in Serenity Painted Death that starts at 1:30
Never heard Serenity Painted Death, is it any good?

[JamJar]

Reverie/Harlequin Forest has a good start but goes nowhere and gets boring. In general I like Ghost Reveries apart from Atonement, The Grand Conjurarion and Reverie/Harlequin Forest getting boring.

[Tyr]

Hey guys, just picked up Still Life.
Ripping it to my computer and listening to the Moor now.

How do you all compare it with the rest of their albums?
(First Opeth album I've bought)
I think Still Life is their best album, followed by My Arms, Your Hearse with Blackwater Park on third place, but a lot of people rate Blackwater Park as the best. Most people will either say Still Life or Blackwater Park, in my experience.

[RustedPieces]

Reverie/Harlequin Forest has a good start but goes nowhere and gets boring. In general I like Ghost Reveries apart from Atonement, The Grand Conjurarion and Reverie/Harlequin Forest getting boring.
The Grand Conjuration is a decent song, but it's kind of mainstream death metal if ya know what i mean.

[vashts80]

Never heard Serenity Painted Death, is it any good?

Yup.


TGC is only boring to me on the album because of how repetative the riffs are. Live, the atmosphere it creates is amazing.

[Tyr]

Never heard Serenity Painted Death, is it any good?
Serenity Painted Death is one my favourite songs of all time.

[JamJar]

The Grand Conjuration is a decent song, but it's kind of mainstream death metal if ya know what i mean.

I've never really got TGC. I see what you mean about it being more mainstream death, and in general, I am far from a death metal fan.

[RustedPieces]

I've never really got TGC. I see what you mean about it being more mainstream death, and in general, I am far from a death metal fan.
Yeah same here, their ballads are what got me into them, mostly Damnation. THen i slowly got into their heavier stuff.

[Sixty Ton Angel]

I've barely got anywhere with Still Life yet still I'm blown away.

Heard a lot of good things about Serenity Painted Death too so I'm looking forward to reaching it :thumb:

[JamJar]

I've barely got anywhere with Still Life yet still I'm blown away.

Heard a lot of good things about Serenity Painted Death too so I'm looking forward to reaching it :thumb:

Look forward to my favourite Opeth riff ever in that song as Mikael growls, 'White faced haggard grin.' Best use of a pinched harmonic ever. Still Life is so amazing.

[Sixty Ton Angel]

Indeed I shall, maybe my dad will be back in time to hear it too.
I'm sure he'll love it :rolleyes:

Zomg, 10 more pages to teh evil number!!!!

[Shadius]

When we get to 666 pages, we all just need to post "DEMON, DEMON OF THE FALL" repeatedly until we hit the next page.

This will show our tr00ness.

[Killtacular]

Hey guys, just picked up Still Life.
Ripping it to my computer and listening to the Moor now.

How do you all compare it with the rest of their albums?
(First Opeth album I've bought)
It's the best thing they've ever done. Judging by GR, it'll stay that way for a while, too.


I only see 437 pages. You crazy kids.

[Sixty Ton Angel]

I only see 437 pages. You crazy kids.
Ah yeah, depends on how many posts per page you have.

The Moor was probably the song that stood out the most first time through.
Shame I can't get it onto my Walkman :mad:

[Shadius]

It's the best thing they've ever done. Judging by GR, it'll stay that way for a while, too.


I only see 437 pages. You crazy kids.

*slap*

Ghost Reveries is a fantastic album.

[Jude]

*slap*

Ghost Reveries is a fantastic album.
Not even close to Still Life though.

[Tyr]

Or MAYH or Blackwater Park.

[Crysiss]

Still,Great album:thumb:

Im listening to alot of Orchid lately.

[Det_Nosnip]

He did, on My Arms, Your Hearse.

And he actually did a surprisingly good job on it. Unfortunately the poor production makes it hard to hear sometimes, but there are some rather ace lines that he threw in on there.

[Killtacular]

*slap*

Ghost Reveries is a fantastic album.
:cry:

No it's not!!

[penelope weird hands]

Sixty Ton Angel -Good choice of first album to get. :thumb:

Still Life has remained my fav for ages now.
The riffage and acoustic picking just peak as the best stuff they've ever written, for me anyway.

Serenity Painted Death is a fvcking good song, as you probably know by now. :)

Is anyone able to play the acoustic picking bit near the end of SPD?
I mean the a-minor part where he keeps hitting the high e in odd timing.
It's got my head fcked. ;/

edit: failed at posting skillfully

[New name Spiraldown]

Are there any other songs like Demon of the Fall on MAYH cause that song kicks ***

[penelope weird hands]

^I suggest getting all the songs.
The entire album is heavy as hell.

My Arms, Your Hearse is in second place now for me, as far as album ratings go.

[JamJar]

^No 3 for me. Still Life > BWP > MAYH. The favourite album list will begin again no doubt.

[New name Spiraldown]

Is there many other progressive bands like Opeth because I havent heard any the closest prgressive band I have heard to Opeth is maybe Tool

[penelope weird hands]

In my experience, there aren't many similar bands to Opeth.

I've heard Woods of Ypres mentioned before, and Katatonia.. I haven't heard them myself so I don't know if they're a decent comparison.

Ask one of the regulars, probably the threadstarter, Flynn, if there are similar artists.
I don't know when he comes on here, but he'll see your post no doubt.

I'm sure there are others who can help you, just not me. heh.

[JamJar]

I could recommend you some modern prog bands to check out who a lot of Opeth/Tool fans like. Dream Theater, Dredg, Nevermore (Not really prog but a lot of Opeth fans like them), Pain Of Salvation (I've been completely obsessed with these recently. Listen Now!), Porcupine Tree, Riverside, Symphony X (I don't like them but a lot of people do)

[New name Spiraldown]

Ill give Dream Theater a try and also some others that you mentioned

[Deth]

Try some Agalloch. They aren't that musically similar to Opeth, but both are progressive bands with a lot of contrast.

Also, Woods of Ypres latest album reminded me of Opeth.

[Crysiss]

I find it odd his UN is Numetal:( , Even though hes getting into progressive music.

Try out Nevermore man:thumb:

[Daven]

Is there many other progressive bands like Opeth because I havent heard any the closest prgressive band I have heard to Opeth is maybe Tool
Try some Novembre.

[Shadius]

A lot of those prog metal bands with death vocals and acoustic breaks just remind me of bad versions of Opeth though. Without Mikael's clean vocals and songwriting they don't sound anywhere near as good.

[guitrguy]

also...
Lacrimas Profunde
Novembers Doom (I highly recommend them)
Vintersorg
Pain of Salvation

[RustedPieces]

I could recommend you some modern prog bands to check out who a lot of Opeth/Tool fans like. Dream Theater, Dredg, Nevermore (Not really prog but a lot of Opeth fans like them), Pain Of Salvation (I've been completely obsessed with these recently. Listen Now!), Porcupine Tree, Riverside, Symphony X (I don't like them but a lot of people do)
Yeah Porcupine Tree is awesome. Didn't Steven Wilson produce a few Opeth albums?

[the2stranger]

Yeah Porcupine Tree is awesome. Didn't Steven Wilson produce a few Opeth albums?
Yes he did.
BlackWater Park
Deliverance
Damnation.

All exellent albums, I prefer Wilon's styyle of production to the guy who did production on Ghost Reveries.
Only after hearing that album I realized what a huge influence Wilson had on Opeth's albums

[Jude]

A lot of those prog metal bands with death vocals and acoustic breaks just remind me of bad versions of Opeth though.
123. After hearing Opeth I can't really listen to those other bands, they just sound like bad imitations.

[the2stranger]

123. After hearing Opeth I can't really listen to those other bands, they just sound like bad imitations.
I try not to draw comparisons with Opeth, and it really helps.
I love Agalloch, and November's Doom is a band that I've been gettingin to recently, they're good too.
Without sounding too much like an Opeth clone.

[Crysiss]

123.

Its rumoured Novembers Doom started out before Opeth so I dont think they can be a clone. :)

[Darkness]

Novembers Doom is great. My favorite song would have to be "Dark Feilds For Brilliance".

And yeah, check out Nevermore forsure. :D

[Shattered_Future]

Novembers Doom released their first album in 92, if I'm not mistaken...

Great band. I have all of their stuff...

[Thor]

Yes he did.
BlackWater Park
Deliverance
Damnation.

All exellent albums, I prefer Wilon's styyle of production to the guy who did production on Ghost Reveries.
Only after hearing that album I realized what a huge influence Wilson had on Opeth's albums
Wilson gave the band the "edge" that they didn't have on earlier albums. While this may aggrivate some older Opeth fans, I really like the direction that he took the band in.

[Larz.]

Wilson gave the band the "edge" that they didn't have on earlier albums. While this may aggrivate some older Opeth fans, I really like the direction that he took the band in.

It's also interesting to note how Wilson's own musical direction was altered a bit after he had worked so much with opeth. If you listen to some of Porcupine Tree's newer tracks, I'd say it's quite easy to hear the influence that Opeth's style has had on them. I like it how it works both ways with Wilson afflicting and helping shape Opeth's sound and vice versa.

[Thor]

Well they've both matured and become better musicians, so I can't ask for more than that.

It would be nice to hear some more songs from Opeth that would sound like Morningrise, just for old time's sake.

[Stoo]

The thing about Orchid and Morningrise is that, okay, we all know the guitar harmonies were really random and didnt really have structure, (Which I believe is the reason most of the songs on these albums were Opeth's longest) but I think this made the Acoustic parts better, they were long and, I don't know, had a more mystical feel to them.

And more importantly the "Riffs" and Acoustic licks did not repeat themselves excessively.

The "Acoustic" parts on the later albums are good, but not in the same league as the Orchid/Morningrise era*. I mean, In the song "Blackwater Park" there is the mellow tune near the start that goes on for about 10years. I like it... but you wouldn't have had that in the first 2 albums. I think, that's something they really miss.

I agree with Thor... Some old style Opeth. Not nessesarily a whole album but a mixture.

Orchid/Morningrise Style + My Arms, You're Hearse/Still Life/ Blackwater Park Style on one album?? Exquisit. :)

*Excluding Damnation.

[i am the robots]

I really miss the flamenco playing that they ditched after Still Life... it was sooooo good.

[UpperDecker]

The thing about Orchid and Morningrise is that, okay, we all know the guitar harmonies were really random and didnt really have structure, (Which I believe is the reason most of the songs on these albums were Opeth's longest) but I think this made the Acoustic parts better, they were long and, I don't know, had a more mystical feel to them.

And more importantly the "Riffs" and Acoustic licks did not repeat themselves excessively.

The "Acoustic" parts on the later albums are good, but not in the same league as the Orchid/Morningrise era*. I mean, In the song "Blackwater Park" there is the mellow tune near the start that goes on for about 10years. I like it... but you wouldn't have had that in the first 2 albums. I think, that's something they really miss.

I agree with Thor... Some old style Opeth. Not nessesarily a whole album but a mixture.

Orchid/Morningrise Style + My Arms, You're Hearse/Still Life/ Blackwater Park Style on one album?? Exquisit. :)

*Excluding Damnation.

I agree completely about the newer acoustic stuff not having that "mystic" feel to it. Ghost reveries is my least favorite album. I really hope they don't stick with this style unless they put 100 percent in to each album (Compare Ghost of Perdition to say... Atonement. Its 100percent effort to about 50percent).

[Thor]

Well after Still Life they began using much more keyboards which is just fine with me.

[i am the robots]

Well after Still Life they began using much more keyboards which is just fine with me.

That's an awesome feature they have on the new stuff, but still... the flamenco was so good!

[Stoo]

I agree completely about the newer acoustic stuff not having that "mystic" feel to it. Ghost reveries is my least favorite album. I really hope they don't stick with this style unless they put 100 percent in to each album (Compare Ghost of Perdition to say... Atonement. Its 100percent effort to about 50percent).
Ghost Reveries is good IMO. But yeah, What's the deal with Atonement? I don't dislike it at all... but it's just, if the next album was Orchid/Morningrise style, you would not have a song like that.

Ghost Reveries is one of the only Opeth albums that I consider to have Filler. Okay on "My Arms, You're Hearse" there is some dare I say pointless tracks, but even then it has more song in total than GR. And I suppose the songs that I consider "pointless" in MAYH contribute in some way to the concept.

Bring back long epic acoustic tracks!

777th POST OMG NOWHERE NEAR THE MOFOING BEAST !!!!!ONE!!!EXCLAMATION1111!!

[Jude]

Well after Still Life they began using much more keyboards which is just fine with me.
They didn't start really using keyboards until Damnation and Gr. Before that there was just the occasional piano part which has been around since Orchid, plus the mellotron on MAYH.

[Toaster]

I think they should ditch the keyboard. I'm thinking back on it, and I dislike pretty much every keyboard part in Damnation. Some fit on Ghost Reveries, but some parts just seem really forced in (we all know what I'm talking about).

[Darkness]

I like the keyboards on Damnation more then the ones on GR, to tell the truth. Weakness and TRTD worked well.

[Deth]

The mellotron makes Damnation for me.

I think Per will be more integrated with the band on the next album when compared with GR, so it should be better.

[UpperDecker]

i was thinking of recording me playing some opeth on guitar. I can play all of Black Rose Immortal, April Ethereal, Demon of The Fall and and only some of Blackwater Park, The Moor, Deliverance, Masters Apprentices. If anyone would like me to record any of these let me know.

[Deth]

If you learn all of The Moor, I would like to hear that.

[Darkness]

If you learn all of The Moor, I would like to hear that.
So would I.

[UpperDecker]

I can play most of it up to the acoustic part and can play only the first couple acoustic sections. I suppose tomorrow i can record it.

[Killtacular]

I don't know if I like this "Per" guy. He tickles ivories. That can't be natural.

[Toaster]

The mellotron makes Damnation for me.

I think Per will be more integrated with the band on the next album when compared with GR, so it should be better.

Well, I don't really like Damnation, so that could tell you something. :p

If Per is more involved in songwriting it might sound better. I just think the sounds Opeth made with simply guitars is way better than using a synthesizer to get any sound you need.

NP: The Drapery Falls

[Darkness]

Yeah, the 'boards pretty much replaced guitar leads...

[Flynn]

That's very sad...

[Stormrider]

For The Moor, I'm at the riff after the verse riff. I havnt practiced the part yet though.

[Darkness]

For The Moor, I'm at the riff after the verse riff. I havnt practiced the part yet though.
Dude I have something for you, go on MSN.

[New name Spiraldown]

I find it odd his UN is Numetal:( , Even though hes getting into progressive music.:thumb:

sorry, but I chose that name at the time and then opened my mind to much better music than Nu metal like Opeth.

[guitrguy]

I would create a new account its not like you have alot of posts.

[New name Spiraldown]

Ok but ill keep the avatar

[New name Spiraldown]

I would create a new account its not like you have alot of posts.

How do you just change your username instead?:confused:

[Crysiss]

I made my avatar, just a fun fact:)

I think you'd need to have a legitimate reason for that.

EDIT: I honestly dont know If you need a legitimate reason for that.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363429

EDIT 2: Heh, I requested an account merge:D

Also, My original version of my avatar was jacked. by fukifiknow

[New name Spiraldown]

Done, I hope this works cause I dont know if I got it Right but hopefully

[King_Karl]

I just bought the latest Opeth album today. It's sick.

[Still Life]

I'll be going to see them in 14 days! Can't wait.

[JamJar]

^Lucky... I need to see them live, but the only show I could make was an 18+

[Shadius]

I just bought the latest Opeth album today. It's sick.

It really is. Overall great creepy atmosphere, some amazing songs. I'd rate GoP, Baying of the Hounds and Harlequin Forest in with their best, and Isolation Years in with their best clean tracks. Beneath the Mire and Hours Of Wealth just below the rest, with Atonement and The Grand Conjuration among my least favourite of their work, though still half decent tracks.

The progressive atmosphere of the whole album I just love though, even though it has two weak tracks.

When I compare it to something like Blackwater park which has four of their very best songs, and three of my least favourite.

I've given up on trying to rate Opeth albums I think. All I know is Still life, Ghost Reveries, Damnation, Blackwater Park (Plus the bonus tracks) and My Arms, Your Hearse are amazing albums.

[UpperDecker]

I think Isolation Years should have been a big longer and had a few more parts thrown in. It seems so.......unfinished i guess. But thats just me. I know i said this is my least favorite album by them but Ghost of Perdition is one of the best songs they've ever made along with Baying of The Hounds.

[Shadius]

To be honest, I think i'd like it if Opeth started making some shorter songs.

I love their work in general, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against long songs at all, but I was thinking, in order for Opeth to do something different... song structure wise, making a fairly short death metal song would be something fresh. Something like Demon of the Fall, maybe shorter.

[Kage]

I fail to see the logic in that a short death metal song would be fresh. Fresh for Opeth, maybe, but I can't imagine anything more stale than that in general.

Anyway, in my opinon the way they did Ghost Reveries was pretty fresh.

[Shadius]

Oh, I agree, it was. By a death metal song, I meant an Opeth death metal song, which wouldn't be stale because they always out their own twist on things anyway, and arguably havn't played "proper" death metal for a while. I mean, you could argue that the idea of a 3 minute ballad would be stale, but it sounded fresh in Isolation Years.

[UpperDecker]

I posted my cover of April Ethereal (on guitar) in the jam session part of the site. Here's the link if you wanna hear it. http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IBACNUQ0DE1I0O7RVLQTPHNG6

[Toaster]

I posted my cover of April Ethereal (on guitar) in the jam session part of the site. Here's the link if you wanna hear it. http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IBACNUQ0DE1I0O7RVLQTPHNG6

Sounds cool. Nice work. :thumb:

If you're into doing that kind of thing (I know I am), you should download Audacity and a drum program. You can record professional-sounding songs for free. I find it to be a lot of fun, although it requires a lot of effort and patience. I can elaborate if you're interested.

[UpperDecker]

Sounds cool. Nice work. :thumb:

If you're into doing that kind of thing (I know I am), you should download Audacity and a drum program. You can record professional-sounding songs for free. I find it to be a lot of fun, although it requires a lot of effort and patience. I can elaborate if you're interested.

I downloaded audacity on my other computer (just to play stuff backwards lol). If its anything like setting up drums in powertabs then it'll be useless cause i dn't do that if my life depended on it. But yea i'll probaly download it again for other purposes with recording besides drums. Thanks.

[eighty d]

with Atonement and The Grand Conjuration among my least favourite of their work, though still half decent tracks.
.

Have you seen it live? If no, your mind may change if/when you do.

EDIT: Just about any drum program should be easier to use than the Powertab drums. I never got the hang of Powertab drums, but now I have Fruity Loops, and I love it.

[Stormrider]

I need to get Audacity. I want to record myself, I just havn't gotten around to getting it yet.

NP Iced Earth - Winter Nights

[ATC]

It really is. Overall great creepy atmosphere, some amazing songs. I'd rate GoP, Baying of the Hounds and Harlequin Forest in with their best, and Isolation Years in with their best clean tracks. Beneath the Mire and Hours Of Wealth just below the rest, with Atonement and The Grand Conjuration among my least favourite of their work, though still half decent tracks.


:upset:

Atonement's my favorite Opeth track on that album, and in my top 5 Opeth tracks. I'm actually hoping they take an Atonement route on their next album. It's the next logical progression.

I thought Beneath the Mire was their worst on GR.

[Flynn]

Really? I think Beneath The Mire is my favorite track on Ghost Reveries. It's such an eerie song.

[guitrguy]

^Lucky... I need to see them live, but the only show I could make was an 18+
Thats why I love being 19.

[Darkness]

I posted my cover of April Ethereal (on guitar) in the jam session part of the site. Here's the link if you wanna hear it. http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IBACNUQ0DE1I0O7RVLQTPHNG6
Very good job dude!

[Jude]

Really? I think Beneath The Mire is my favorite track on Ghost Reveries. It's such an eerie song.
Also probably my least favorite, it or Hours of Wealth. It just seems kind of boring riffwise, and the lyrics and the way the vocals are delivered are just terrible. It does come back at the end with a sweet solo though.

[Flynn]

My favorite Opeth solo is displayed on Epilogue. I can almost play it perfect. I absolutely love the twin leads at the end. It's such a beautiful song, I can't get enough of that solo.

What's your favorite Opeth solo?

[UpperDecker]

Very good job dude!

Thanks alot.

[Duman]

My favorite Opeth solo is displayed on Epilogue. I can almost play it perfect. I absolutely love the twin leads at the end. It's such a beautiful song, I can't get enough of that solo.

What's your favorite Opeth solo?

I'd have to say either the Blackwater Park solo or the first Deliverance solo, the one Peter plays

:upset:

Atonement's my favorite Opeth track on that album, and in my top 5 Opeth tracks. I'm actually hoping they take an Atonement route on their next album. It's the next logical progression.

I thought Beneath the Mire was their worst on GR.

I'm gonna have to agree with everything there

[Sixty Ton Angel]

I never really notice solos in Opeth songs.
I just sort of listen to the whole song.

Guess I'll have to mass listen to Opeth then and decide...

[Stoo]

I never really notice solos in Opeth songs.
I just sort of listen to the whole song.

Guess I'll have to mass listen to Opeth then and decide...
Same here.

They're just such a small part.

[JamJar]

I'm the same about not really noticing solos. They just seem to flow so well with the songs that you barely really notice them.

[Stoo]

It's because in most metal songs, you get a kind of build up to the solo and then it's usually a blistering shred fest where you can hear pretty much nothing all except for the guitar(s).

Opeth have a much more mature way of making/slotting solos into a song.

[JamJar]

^I know what you mean. Instead of having a solo for the sake of having a solo, Opeth's solos just really flow well with the song and are very melodic.

[Duman]

^I know what you mean. Instead of having a solo for the sake of having a solo, Opeth's solos just really flow well with the song and are very melodic.

Yeah that's a fair point, maybe that's why I like the ones I do, cos I haven't noticed the others enough for them to stand out in my head.. But I mean Deliverance, that one just blows your head off

[Crysiss]

The one in Moonlapse Vertigo is weird.

I was kinda thinking what the hell he was doing.

6 more pages to go...:D

[JamJar]

The one in Moonlapse Vertigo is weird.

I was kinda thinking what the hell he was doing.

6 more pages to go...:D

I notice the rhythm guitar more in that part and I really like Moonlapse Vertigo as a whole. It's such an under appreciated song.

Only 160 posts to go :p

[Knifeboy]

Favorite Opeth solo.. Both the Windowpane solos.. Been listening to that song alot lately, and I realised that Windowpane is all about the solos.. The rest is just.. Sort of "filler".. I mean, the vocals are sort of boring in that song... And it wouldn't be as amazing a song as it is, if it wasn't for the beautiful expressive solos

[Crysiss]

I have another account, so im trying to make to 666 twice:D

I like that song alot, the flow is actually pretty good in that one.

EDIT: the vocals are good IMO.

The solos kick *** too. I fell in love with the 2nd solo when I heard it for the first time.

[JamJar]

I can't remember how solos go to save my life. Damnation is probably the most played album on my computer and I can't remember how any of the solos go. :(

[Crysiss]

Do you play guitar? Usually that contributes to why people remember solos. Or just sheer wankery:p

[JamJar]

Yes I do play guitar. :( Opeth solos are probably the only solos I can't remember

[Shadius]

Atonement's my favorite Opeth track on that album, and in my top 5 Opeth tracks. I'm actually hoping they take an Atonement route on their next album. It's the next logical progression.

I thought Beneath the Mire was their worst on GR.

Really? I think Beneath The Mire is my favorite track on Ghost Reveries. It's such an eerie song.

This is my point, GR is a great album, different people see and get different things out of. It's just that Opeth has changed their sound slightly and some people won't keep up or don't enjoy the direction rather than it actually being any worse.

As for Opeth solo's... I love so many of them, off the top of my head:

The Leper Affinity
Windowpane
When
Epilogue
All the solo's on Still Life

etc.

Most solo's are great stuff, very mature and well used in the songs.

[Oriah]

Most solo's are great stuff, very mature and well used in the songs.

agreed

[MidnightRider]

My favorite Opeth solos:

The Leper Affinity
Godheads Lament

[Jude]

I'm partial to White Cluster myself. I also rather like the ones on BRI.

[MidnightRider]

Yeah, all of the solos on BRI are great.

I've always liked the one in Harvest.

[Stormrider]

The second solo on BRI is really sweet. Its a sudden mood change from the riffs before. Great stuff.

[Elmo McCheese]

I like the Windowpane solos and Ending Credits as a whole.

[BurningSky]

I can't believe nobody has mentioned the A Fair Judgement solo yet...

That solo is two and a half minutes or orgasm for me...

The Serenity Painted Death solo gets second place...

[Stoo]

The best bit of Serenity Painted Death is the amazing pinch harmonic riff at 2:20 onwards and then the awesome growling that follows.

:)

[JamJar]

^I've said it before and I'll say it again. That is my favourite Opeth riff ever.

[Deth]

Mine too. Incredibly good.

[Tyr]

Serenity Painted Death FTW!

[Shadows]

Boink this argument, I <3 Opeth!

I've been listening to a lot of Ghost Reveries lately.

[Shadius]

I'm listening to the Smashing Pumpkins, I'm not sure why I'm telling you all this.

[JamJar]

I'm listening to some random radio station waiting for the new AFI single to be premiered. (Don't laugh that I like AFI)

[Shadows]

There's nothing wrong with liking AFI.

[Crysiss]

The first solo of a Fair Judgement is cool:D

[Kage]

I love the solos on the Deliverance album as a whole.

I like Mikeal's style better than Peter's for sure.

I know everyone goes on about this part, and it finally hit me at the part in Serenity Painted Death when he growls, "white faced, haggard grin, this serenity painted death." That part is so awesome.

[Crysiss]

Serenity Painted Death was the first Opeth song I had heard from Still Life. And yes, that part is awesome.

[Stormrider]

What's AFI ?

NP Death - Crystal Mounstain

[Shadius]

I love the solos on the Deliverance album as a whole.

I like Mikeal's style better than Peter's for sure.

I know everyone goes on about this part, and it finally hit me at the part in Serenity Painted Death when he growls, "white faced, haggard grin, this serenity painted death." That part is so awesome.

One of the first growled Opeth parts that I actually really started to enjoy. Amazing stuff. The way he says "Death" one of the times is awesome.

[Grey Incision]

Personally, I love the part in Moonlapse vertigo 2:37 in. That song is and always will be my favourite Opeth song of all time.:) I hope they play it at the Sydney show coming up. By the way, is anyone going to that?

[Shattered_Future]

I know everyone goes on about this part, and it finally hit me at the part in Serenity Painted Death when he growls, "white faced, haggard grin, this serenity painted death." That part is so awesome.

It really is. One of my favorite parts off of that album, along with the sung part of Godhead's Lament.

[Stormrider]

You mean the "What would they care, if I did stay, no-one would know, ohhh no" ?

I love that.

There edited.

[Tyr]

"What would they care if I did stay
No-one would know
What would they care if I did stay
No-one should know"

That's an awesome part.

[Stormrider]

Yeah, it really is an awsome part.

[Det_Nosnip]

Haha....*waits for Dunkel to come be a dick*

[Kage]

That's one of the first Opeth melodies that grabbed me as well.

All the songs on Still Life stick out as being great, except Moonlapse Vertigo, which I like, but doesn't really have any features that jump out and make it a stand out. The part in White Cluster, though, where the choir-like voices rise up in the background and mimic the guitar part is probably my favorite section of the entire album.

[Shadius]

I just love how desperate he sounds in White Cluster, fits so well with the lyrics and the music and everything, great stuff.

[JamJar]

I really dig Moonlapse Vertigo. From the amazing intro riff to the outro it keeps me interested. I can't really describe what I like about it and IMO it is one of the most underappreciated Opeth songs.

EDIT: AFI = Sorta gothy hardcore punk band.

[Crysiss]

Moonlapse is a great song. I like it alot.

[Grey Incision]

As i mentioned on the previous page, moonlapse vertigo is and always will be my favourite song. I played it for an exam just recently. I think the acoustic sections are just amazing in it, as well as the bluesy kind of part at 4:56. The guitar in that song just hits me hard every time, i love it.

[Jude]

"What would they care if I was gay
No-one would know
What would they care if I was gay
No-one should know, hooooo-moooo"

That's an awesome part.
Yeah it is

[Stoo]

Oh my god.

It's been like 4 months now... Damnation and Deliverance...

...Still waiting... AMAZON!! :Shakes Fist:

EDIT: I just realised the name change. :cool:

[Stormrider]

They didn't send a notice or anything for why its taking so long ?

[Stoo]

It was my sister's credit card and her e-mail address. She said they mailed her a while back saying one of the albums was delayed, but they're just going to keep the other one till they can send them both at once.

As far as I'm aware that's all that's been said. :confused:

[Stormrider]

Hmm. Are you still going to wait, or are you going to be asking for your money back soon ?

[Stoo]

I dunno. I wanna look at her emails myself to see excatly what they said. I'll do that next time I see her. I'll take it from there.

[Darkness]

Haha....*waits for Dunkel to come be a dick*
Want an average song! :p

:lol: I like it more then you guys think, it's just nothing to The Moor or Face Of Melinda... eh, forget it.

[Alex]

anyone got the grand conjuration vid?

[Shadius]

anyone got the grand conjuration vid?

Why would you want it? More to the point.

It's not very good by any means.

[Whale and Wasp]

anyone got the grand conjuration vid?
music.yahoo.com


i find it to be a poor repreentation of opeth tough :/

[ok lateralus]

music.yahoo.com


i find it to be a poor repreentation of opeth tough :/

major understatement.

[UpperDecker]

Listen to this cover of The Drapery Falls i found, the singing is hilarious. Good acoustic cover though.http://www.grumlee.com/mp3/228_Grum_Lee_Acoustic_(Opeth_-_The_Drapery_Falls).mp3

[Mr. Ron]

Listen to this cover of The Drapery Falls i found, the singing is hilarious. Good acoustic cover though.http://www.grumlee.com/mp3/228_Grum_Lee_Acoustic_(Opeth_-_The_Drapery_Falls).mp3
lol

[Shattered_Future]

major understatement.

That may be the world's most nonsensical video ever. Random images, anyone?

[Grey Incision]

A stab in the dark would be that they were attempting something extremely cryptic and hidden with the video and failed miserably because they tried too hard and it lost any point amongst the randominity or it is just bordering that line which makes it nonsensical.

[Deth]

Opeth had nothing to do with the video. I read an interview with Mikeal and he was confused with it as well.

[Thor]

Here's a cool and pretty funny video for all of you Opeth fans who like hearing funny things that Mikael says inbetween songs:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=651935474&n=2

[Shadows]

When even the band hates the video, you know it has to be bad. But sometimes it's the hilarious kind of bad, like CoB's Needled 24/7. :lol: I've never seen the entire TGC video though, as the first 10 seconds I have seen were enough to make me realize that it was probably as bad as Mikael said.

[Whale and Wasp]

major understatement.
true......"appalling" then



they should seriously make some videos for the older songs....with like beutiful forest/ emotional scenes. those would rule! also it would be pretty cool if they made a movie for still life or mayh concept albums (like how pink floyd di one for the wall, etc):thumb:

[Crysiss]

The TGC video was alright. I think its on youtube right now.

[Shadows]

I just downloaded...watching now...

EDIT: that sucked

[Shattered_Future]

That it did. There were some hot chicks in there though...

[Stoo]

Anyone know Opeth are going to Download? UGH!!

[JamJar]

^Yeah, I only found out yesterday and I really want to go as Tool, Opeth, Dredg and DragonForce are playing, but I don't have any money to buy tix. (They've probably sold out anyway)

[Stoo]

Yea I was checking the dates for someone and I just saw.

Mang, wish I had friends who like Metal!! Then I'd go. :upset:

I'm seeing Tool in June anyway, but still. Tallica etc.

[Flynn]

Favorite Opeth solo.. Both the Windowpane solos.. Been listening to that song alot lately, and I realised that Windowpane is all about the solos.. The rest is just.. Sort of "filler".. I mean, the vocals are sort of boring in that song... And it wouldn't be as amazing a song as it is, if it wasn't for the beautiful expressive solos


The solo's on Windopane are really good. I really like the solo's on Ending Credits also. It's such an amazing song.

[Crysiss]

Ending Credits is the song most people around here first started liking. Thanks to the whoring of one specific person:D

The chord progressions are cool too.

[Shadius]

Yea I was checking the dates for someone and I just saw.

Mang, wish I had friends who like Metal!! Then I'd go. :upset:

I'm seeing Tool in June anyway, but still. Tallica etc.

Tool AND Opeth? Dredg too! When do we find out if it's the same day? Because if they are then I'm definately going.