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guitrguy
03-14-2006, 02:31 PM
:lol: what I first thought was "omfg the intro is so...Arabic!"..the acoustic guitars give it that vibe. Still feckin' awesome.
Don't you love Harmonic Minor scales. I know I do :thumb:
Shadius
03-14-2006, 02:32 PM
Bleak was one of the songs that got me into heavy Opeth, along with The Drapery Falls.
Moses
03-14-2006, 02:33 PM
Don't you love Harmonic Minor scales. I know I do :thumb:
So does every other unoriginal metal group.
Shred Danson
03-14-2006, 02:34 PM
Don't you love Harmonic Minor scales. I know I do :thumb:
Hell yeah, buddy. So fun to play. Especially descending.
guitrguy
03-14-2006, 02:36 PM
Hell yeah, buddy. So fun to play. Especially descending.
That would be Melodic.
Shred Danson
03-14-2006, 02:37 PM
That would be Melodic.
No, I know which is which, I just like playing harmonic minor runs descending. Just sounds cooler, I guess.
guitrguy
03-14-2006, 02:42 PM
No, I know which is which, I just like playing harmonic minor runs descending. Just sounds cooler, I guess.
oh ok. I like to screw around with the second half of the scale.
Shred Danson
03-14-2006, 02:45 PM
oh ok. I like to screw around with the second half of the scale.
yeah, and those Yngwie-ish triplet runs are cool to, like this:
|-15-13-12--------------------------
|-----------13-12-10----------------
|---------------------12-10-9-------
|-----------------------------10-9-7
|------------------------------------
|------------------------------------
etc
Either they're harmonic minor based, or I'm just an idiot.
guitrguy
03-14-2006, 03:26 PM
G F E C B A G F E C B A
It could be many things but I want to say its a descending A Melodic Minor.
Slapping Penguin
03-14-2006, 03:38 PM
So does every other unoriginal metal group.
Well I just hit random things :(
Now really whats some other really good scale.
guitrguy
03-14-2006, 04:14 PM
Well I just hit random things :(
Now really whats some other really good scale.
I take it you know your Blues Pentatonic. Try to incorporate Major scales.
Harmonic Minor scale is very useful and not as confusing as a Melodic Minor scale.
So does every other unoriginal metal group.
So does every musician that plays a harmony in a minor scale.
Darkness
03-14-2006, 05:06 PM
The Drapery Falls was the song that stuck with me in the early days. It's not really one of my favorites anymore though.
Yeah same with me. That and Blackwater Park convinced me to get the album.
Shadius
03-14-2006, 05:41 PM
Yeah same with me. That and Blackwater Park convinced me to get the album.
Thats funny, cos Blackwater Park would have put me right off them straight away. I still don't like the song, it's one of the few Opeth songs I just don't like.
Darkness
03-14-2006, 05:56 PM
Thats one of Opeths best, IMO. Top 3, easily.
Moses
03-14-2006, 07:23 PM
So does every musician that plays a harmony in a minor scale.
No. You can play a harmony in natural minor scale. Harmonic minor scales are just used way too often in metal.
Now really whats some other really good scale.
Dorian is good for modern rock. Diminished is really good for death metal. Whole tone is cool too. Just some I'd like to reccomend.
Shadows
03-14-2006, 07:49 PM
Thats funny, cos Blackwater Park would have put me right off them straight away. I still don't like the song, it's one of the few Opeth songs I just don't like.
That's odd. I was surprised at how good it was last night. There are a few songs on Blackwater Park and some on Still Life that I genuinely dislike, but aside from that, I like every song.
Moses
03-14-2006, 07:51 PM
BWP is my favorite song at the moment.
That's odd. I was surprised at how good it was last night. There are a few songs on Blackwater Park and some on Still Life that I genuinely dislike, but aside from that, I like every song.
Wow, I can't see disliking any songs on those albums...I rather dislike Master's Apprentices though (well the heavy part at the beginning anyway, though I love the acoustic part).
Shadius
03-14-2006, 08:07 PM
I wish I got it, I really do. It's not like I don't like heavy Opeth, either, I mean, MAYH is probably my 4th favourite Opeth album out of the 8.
Shattered_Future
03-14-2006, 08:09 PM
Wow, I can't see disliking any songs on those albums...I rather dislike Master's Apprentices though (well the heavy part at the beginning anyway, though I love the acoustic part).
Man, that is one of the best simple riffs I've ever heard though. It's a hell of a lot of fun to play and listen to.
I think BWP has the best and worst moments on the album. The best being the riff and Mikael's layered vocals at around 5 minutes, after the acoustic riff. The worst being the acoustic riff.
Shadows
03-14-2006, 08:10 PM
Wow, I can't see disliking any songs on those albums...I rather dislike Master's Apprentices though (well the heavy part at the beginning anyway, though I love the acoustic part).
I love every second of Master's Apprentices. People think I'm crazy for not liking everything from Still Life, but considering that The Moor, Godhead's Lament, and White Cluster are the only songs I really like from that album, it's easily my least favorite Opeth record. Blackwater Park I love, except Bleak I dislike. I used to hate every song on that album passed Dirge for November, but it really grew on me.
NP: The Funeral Portrait
Stormrider
03-14-2006, 08:16 PM
Man, that is one of the best simple riffs I've ever heard though. It's a hell of a lot of fun to play and listen to.
I love playing along to that song.
I also love the acoustic passage of that song. Realy good stuff.
MidnightRider
03-14-2006, 08:17 PM
I love BWP, but it took a long time to grow on me. I love how it just kicks straight into that awesome riff.
And The Funeral Portrait is definitely the weakest point on the album.
I learned to play the first riff on Godheads Lament today, it's really fun to play.
I love every second of Master's Apprentices. People think I'm crazy for not liking everything from Still Life, but considering that The Moor, Godhead's Lament, and White Cluster are the only songs I really like from that album, it's easily my least favorite Opeth record. Blackwater Park I love, except Bleak I dislike. I used to hate every song on that album passed Dirge for November, but it really grew on me.
NP: The Funeral Portrait
Whoa your tastes are basically opposite to mine...I love all of SL and it's my favorite album...Bleak is probably my 1st or second favorite BWP song...Master's Apprentices bores the crap out of me until the acoustic part..... :\
TojesDolan
03-14-2006, 08:38 PM
"Serenity Painted Death" is a really fun song to play as well. That's gotta be my fave out of Still Life.
And I hardly ever play BWP because the middle acoustic section (the one after the first verse) is kind of boring.
Serenity Painted Death is retardedly good.
Shadius
03-14-2006, 08:47 PM
I love how everyone has such varied opinions on Opeth's music. Such a complex band that attracts such different listeners, that get different things out of the songs.
At least we can all agree that To Bid You Farewell is an amazing song though... right?
Of course. There are no heretics here.
NP: Advent
4,300th post. Woo.
Darkness
03-14-2006, 08:59 PM
That song sucks.
/is just trying to be different
TojesDolan
03-14-2006, 08:59 PM
Yeah... a very good song. I don't think there will be disagreement there.
Then again this is the internet and opinions fly like Pigs in Pink Floyd's albums so yeah.
I need to listen to Animals again sometime. Fantastic album.
NP: Serenity Painted Death
Shadows
03-14-2006, 09:01 PM
That song is indeed unbelievable. Flynn sort of made me realize the greatness of Morningrise. I still prefer Orchid, but it definitely has that same older Opeth feel.
Toaster
03-14-2006, 09:44 PM
That song is indeed unbelievable. Flynn sort of made me realize the greatness of Morningrise. I still prefer Orchid, but it definitely has that same older Opeth feel.
I prefer Orchid too. I wouldn't say To Bid You Farewell is unbelieveable, really. I don't enjoy it that much. The intro is awesome, and there are a few great parts within the song, but I just don't think it's that good as a whole.
All the good conversation goes on when I'm not around! :angry:
Of course. There are no heretics here.
:cool:
Crysiss
03-14-2006, 10:13 PM
I prefer Orchid too. I wouldn't say To Bid You Farewell is unbelieveable, really. I don't enjoy it that much. The intro is awesome, and there are a few great parts within the song, but I just don't think it's that good as a whole.
Which one of the softer songs hit you harder than to bid you farewell?
Darkness
03-14-2006, 10:18 PM
To tell the truth, no soft song hits me as hard as Face Of Melinda. I do NOT know why, but Opeth have never topped that song for me.
Crysiss
03-14-2006, 10:30 PM
Face Of Melinda hit me the hardest. when i heard the intro, the hairs on my neck went up. And that part before it gets heavy....Oh my god..
Darkness
03-14-2006, 10:32 PM
Face Of Melinda hit me the hardest. when i heard the intro, the hairs on my neck went up. And that part before it gets heavy....Oh my god..
Yes! Yes!!!
If you don't care for Bleak and Godheads Lament, I have a feeling we'll be good friends. :thumb:
Blanka Flip
03-14-2006, 11:52 PM
It's so awesome to hear all the little things about music that excites everybody... I'm not the only one. I'm always the one's out of my friends that is always, "Hey! Listen to that! Did you hear that?!" *Rewinds CD for 30th time*
And no band does that quite like Opeth for me- It always seems like you hear something new each and everytime you listen... The replay value is through the roof, just one of the many reasons why Opeth is so brilliant to me...
As for the softer songs, I was huge into Death Whispered A Lullaby for a bit, then fell back into the serinity of both Benighted and of course FOM... But those two tracks are on such an elavated plain, it's like a given to say... I'd say currently I'm really into Hope Leaves.
guitrguy
03-15-2006, 12:15 AM
No. You can play a harmony in natural minor scale. Harmonic minor scales are just used way too often in metal.
Natural Minor scale Is only used when You don't know what you are doing,
Shadius
03-15-2006, 09:52 AM
Natural Minor scale Is only used when You don't know what you are doing,
That's not true, it depends upon the type of harmonies you want.
penelope weird hands
03-15-2006, 10:02 AM
It's so awesome to hear all the little things about music that excites everybody... I'm not the only one. I'm always the one's out of my friends that is always, "Hey! Listen to that! Did you hear that?!" *Rewinds CD for 30th time* ...
Haha, yeah... I'm the the same.
Thankfully, I rarely get a reply of '...Huh?', as most of my friends are, also, the same.
I hope it's mutual.
Ahh.. the glory of proverbially masturbating over a moment of a good song. :rolleyes:
Shadius
03-15-2006, 10:32 AM
I don't usually rewind songs or listen to songs over and over anymore, I've overplayed too much music in the past and now i'm sick of it. I'd hate to do it with some amazing music like Opeth, not matter how much replay value the tracks have.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I listen to probably at least two Opeth albums a day. But I do it in albums, so I won't get sick of any particular song.
Det_Nosnip
03-15-2006, 12:47 PM
Serenity Painted Death is retardedly good.
:lol: It's so true!
ok lateralus
03-15-2006, 01:08 PM
I always loved the chorus of SPD, but overall it feels not very well put together, kind of flimsy, and my least favorite on SL.
Stormrider
03-15-2006, 01:52 PM
I wouldn't say To Bid You Farewell is unbelieveable, really. I don't enjoy it that much. The intro is awesome, and there are a few great parts within the song, but I just don't think it's that good as a whole.
Same here. I love the intro, and some other parts through out the song, but as a whole...
...I rather Face of Melinda.
Shattered_Future
03-15-2006, 02:21 PM
I STILL don't know what is so good about that song.
Stormrider
03-15-2006, 02:22 PM
Face of Melinda ?
I can't im ALL huge on it and all, but I still enjoy the song...its growing on me every listen.
Shattered_Future
03-15-2006, 02:32 PM
It just seems really weak.
Stormrider
03-15-2006, 02:34 PM
At first, I wasn't realy into it. It was weak. But now, like I said its growing on me.
I have it stuck in my head now :p
Shadows
03-15-2006, 02:40 PM
Face of Melinda sounds very odd to me, but I kind of like it for some strange, twisted reason.
Shattered_Future
03-15-2006, 02:43 PM
I personally think that's the worst song on the album...I got more used to Damnation era clean songs, so the earlier ones sound a bit odd to me.
Face of Melinda rules because
Vocal melodies
Great lyrics
that awesome first electric riff is just amazing when it kicks in
Det_Nosnip
03-15-2006, 03:13 PM
Same here. I love the intro, and some other parts through out the song, but as a whole...
...I rather Face of Melinda.
Or Benighted. :)
Shadius
03-15-2006, 03:21 PM
The clean songs in Still Life just fit in so well with the eerie atmosphere. Plus, they help tell the story.
Darkness
03-15-2006, 04:03 PM
I personally think that's the worst song on the album...I got more used to Damnation era clean songs, so the earlier ones sound a bit odd to me.
:angry:
FOM rules for the reasons Jude posted. Theres just so much emotion/power in it!
Anyone else in here a big fan of Wreath? Right now that's one of my current Opeth favorites.
and also, the long guitar solo in A Fair Judgement is just simply...wow.
Darkness
03-15-2006, 04:07 PM
^ I was REALLY into Wreath when I first got Deliverance. Awesome song, and though it's kinda died off on me right now, I still think its the most under-rated Opeth song. That second solo is madness, as well as Mikaels growls on the last few verses.
I love Wreath, especially when the vocals start in the beginning.
^ I was REALLY into Wreath when I first got Deliverance. Awesome song, and though it's kinda died off on me right now, I still think its the most under-rated Opeth song. That second solo is madness, as well as Mikaels growls on the last few verses.
His growls on that song are even more harsh than on just about any other Opeth track I've ever heard.
Darkness
03-15-2006, 04:12 PM
Yeah, the only song that he sounds as evil/angry in is Demon Of The Fall, but theres no effects in Wreath! The part where he says a growled line and then a breif clean line.. so awesome.
Yeah, the only song that he sounds as evil/angry in is Demon Of The Fall, but theres no effects in Wreath! The part where he says a growled line and then a breif clean line.. so awesome.
Yeah, it really shows that Mikael is one of the most talented vocalists to ever come out of the metal scene.
I just listened to Wreath again and it's even better than I remembered. Awesome!
TojesDolan
03-15-2006, 05:13 PM
Yeah I thought Wreath is quite underappreciated.
I started liking it after I watched the documentary for Damnation and Deliverance. That and "By the pain I see in others".
I need to get Lamentations some day, so I can watch that damn documentary
Stormrider
03-15-2006, 05:39 PM
I saw it in a store for 19.99 once. Incrdeible price I would say considering the prices of a cd.
I didn't get it though...
Knifeboy
03-15-2006, 05:43 PM
http://dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=570485 9 bucks
free shipping for us customers (as far as i remember... I'm from denmark so I didn't get free shipping)
Shadows
03-15-2006, 05:43 PM
I have soooooooooo many Opeth albums I still need to get. :( I love them way too much to live off Orchid and Ghost Reveries alone.
Hopefully I'll be able to match Mike's clean tone on Damnation with my new axe. :D I plan on mastering Windowpane by then, which shouldn't take long since I know the whole song already. It will be the first time I ever learn and record a full song.
Stormrider
03-15-2006, 05:46 PM
I only have Still Life and Morningrise :(
I'de like to record, but I dont have any equipment or program too so yeah...
I would liek to learn an Opeth Acoustic song, Don't know which though.
I've seen it for 199 Skr (Swedish crowns), that would be like 25 USD. That's the cheapest that I've seen. I know, CD's and DVD's are ridicolously expensive here, 25% VAT on almost everything.
I got Lamentations for 11 bucks on Amazon. You can too, try it.
Anyone who sees any website selling Opeth shirts that are medium or small (preferably small) please alert me
=-fukifiknow-=
03-15-2006, 09:31 PM
^ www.infinity1.com
i got my opeth shirts like an hour ago...
i got the still life one and the white T with opeth up front and in the back it says "look your last upon the sun"
i want a morningrise shirt tho
Shadows
03-15-2006, 09:34 PM
I want the one that says "Look Your Last Upon the Sun", but I do have a sweet imported Damnation shirt coming as we speak. Check it out:
front (http://www.rockabilia.com/%5CImages%5CTSHIRT%5C42621f.jpg)
back (http://www.rockabilia.com/%5CImages%5CTSHIRT%5C42621b.jpg)
eighty d
03-15-2006, 09:38 PM
I'de like to record, but I dont have any equipment or program too so yeah...
I would liek to learn an Opeth Acoustic song, Don't know which though.
You can download free recording programs online. I think there's a legitimately free one called Audacity, but I got my copy of Cool Edit Pro free... Then either get a cheap mic or a 1/4" to 1/8" adapter to record via line in and you're good to go.
I suggest Closure and Benighted for fun acoustic songs.
Darkness
03-15-2006, 09:47 PM
I want the one that says "Look Your Last Upon the Sun"
I got that one for Christmas. Good shirt. :cool:
Crysiss
03-15-2006, 10:24 PM
You can download free recording programs online. I think there's a legitimately free one called Audacity, but I got my copy of Cool Edit Pro free... Then either get a cheap mic or a 1/4" to 1/8" adapter to record via line in and you're good to go.
I suggest Closure and Benighted for fun acoustic songs.
IMO, closure is the uhh...funnest opeth acoustic song to play.
TojesDolan
03-15-2006, 11:09 PM
IMO, closure is the uhh...funnest opeth acoustic song to play.
It's not the funniest.
It's the best to play AND sing along to.
=-fukifiknow-=
03-15-2006, 11:20 PM
did anyone notice during closure in "lamentations" when mikael is singing the part "redemtion for my pathos" it sounds JUST like he's saying "redemption for my penis" i laugh everytime...
guitrguy
03-16-2006, 12:14 AM
I do need an Opeth shirt. I'm surprised I already Have an Age of Silence shirt but not an Opeth.
Crysiss
03-16-2006, 01:18 AM
It's not the funniest.
It's the best to play AND sing along to.
lmfao
Sorry about that my boy. Theres no I in there. I was trying to say that its a fun song to play lmao. sorry for confusion heh
Flynn
03-16-2006, 01:23 AM
I just realized how strange Beneath The Mire is...guitars, drums, keyboards, lyrics, and especially they way it was put together...definitely the most eerie song on Ghost Reveries.
Shadows
03-16-2006, 01:28 AM
It is a very strange song. I love it; one of my favorites on GR.
Flynn
03-16-2006, 01:42 AM
Yes, but my favorite song on that album still remains Reverie/Harlequin Forest. I absolutely love the twin harmonies on that track.
I can't believe Flynn likes something on GR more than me, but I hate Beneath the Mire and I'm not a real big fan of R/HF either :amaze:
I do need an Opeth shirt. I'm surprised I already Have an Age of Silence shirt but not an Opeth.
You should get the Damnation shirt, just because I've never seen anyone else have it. Not to mention that Damnation is incredible too...
Stormrider
03-16-2006, 10:08 AM
You can download free recording programs online. I think there's a legitimately free one called Audacity, but I got my copy of Cool Edit Pro free... Then either get a cheap mic or a 1/4" to 1/8" adapter to record via line in and you're good to go.
I suggest Closure and Benighted for fun acoustic songs.
Yeah, I've heard those programs. Ijust never got around to getting any of themn yet...
I think I have not heard Closure yet :(
Closure's amazing, you're missing out.
JamJar
03-16-2006, 12:06 PM
Closure's amazing, you're missing out.
I adore Closure. I need to get round to learning it on guitar. It's probably my favourite on Damnation.
Toaster
03-16-2006, 12:08 PM
The second last riff (the one with the bend) is really fun to play. It's easily my favourite on Damnation.
Stormrider
03-16-2006, 02:02 PM
Closure's amazing, you're missing out.
Hmm, I checked in my songlist, and I only have a live version. I don't remember it though :( :upset:
Anyone would be so kind and send it to me plz :)
twinky_123@hotmail.com
Hit me up on AIM for the whole album (MisterGroovy1023)
I love Closure live because while usually Opeth just play the songs exactly as they are on the album, they throw in that crazy jam part on this song.
Stormrider
03-16-2006, 04:04 PM
Hmm, me will listen to it now.
NP Closure
My mistake, this isnt live. Atleast, it doesnt sound like it.
Ah what the hell...i dont have a full version. It stops at 5 minuutes 15 seconds..just cuts off
Hmm, me will listen to it now.
NP Closure
My mistake, this isnt live. Atleast, it doesnt sound like it.
Ah what the hell...i dont have a full version. It stops at 5 minuutes 15 seconds..just cuts off
:lol:
You're not the first to be owned by the end of Closure.
It's supposed to end suddenly like that. On the album the next song starts right after it and it's disorienting because it's in a different key, tempo, guitar tone etc.
Stormrider
03-16-2006, 04:13 PM
:lol:
You're not the first to be owned by the end of Closure.
It's supposed to end suddenly like that. On the album the next song starts right after it and it's disorienting because it's in a different key, tempo, guitar tone etc.
Oh :lol:
Meh, atleast I'm not the first :p
Oh well, it is a good song...me like it.
TojesDolan
03-16-2006, 04:21 PM
lmfao
Sorry about that my boy. Theres no I in there. I was trying to say that its a fun song to play lmao. sorry for confusion heh
OIC hehe sorry for the misunderstanding. :D:D
And yes regarding Beneath the mire I think it's a great song. And no one believed me. :(
Thank God we have our local Flynn for support.
JamJar
03-16-2006, 04:21 PM
Oh :lol:
Meh, atleast I'm not the first :p
Oh well, it is a good song...me like it.
It owned me too. I was like gwaaah??? Hope Leaves is a great song though. Damnation is a great album.
i am the robots
03-16-2006, 04:24 PM
Yeah, Closure does that to you.
Det_Nosnip
03-16-2006, 04:25 PM
I love the Lamentations version of the Closure ending. Although Martin's multi-layered percussion was pretty stellar, I loved the atmosphere that they created live. God, they need to get that guy back behind the set.
Shadows
03-16-2006, 04:26 PM
I don't really like Closure. :(
Darkness
03-16-2006, 05:12 PM
OIC hehe sorry for the misunderstanding. :D:D
And yes regarding Beneath the mire I think it's a great song. And no one believed me. :(
Thank God we have our local Flynn for support.
It's one of the three GR songs I like more then average. :thumb:
TojesDolan
03-16-2006, 05:28 PM
Yeah Dunkelheit ftw as well. :chug:
Anyways... on Lamentations, my favorite drumming has got to be the extra parts for "In my time of need", much more potent, I suppose, and the ending for Closure. The extra minutes really make the song feel complete, unlike the studio version.
Blanka Flip
03-16-2006, 05:59 PM
Yeah, it really shows that Mikael is one of the most talented vocalists to ever come out of the metal scene.
Thor, I keep running into you around the forums, and it always seems that we are on the same page... Interesting.
To catch up on the last couple things, Serinity Painted Death is an amazing song... In my music theory class, I did a report on Still Life and played it before the class... It was great. Most of the people that were in there listen mostly to Frank Sinatra, Classical, and some varied pop music... SPD scared the **** out of all of them...
And yes, I think wreath is one of the evilest sounding Opeth songs created, thanks to Mike's amazing vocal work... The song itself is a complete journey, which is another reason I like it so much. It's like a story in itself...
But I think I've come to realize that, though I can never pick what album is my favorite, I think I've figured that Deliverance is my favorite Opeth song... I can't explain why, the song just announces itself to me with every listen. It was also one of the first Opeth songs I was able to learn on bass...
Oh and when Det Nosip said, "I love the Lamentations version of the Closure ending. Although Martin's multi-layered percussion was pretty stellar, I loved the atmosphere that they created live. God, they need to get that guy back behind the set."
Good Lord I agree!
:wave:
Krabsworth
03-16-2006, 06:29 PM
So I was just watching some Opeth on google videos...and I really like them. What are some albums I should look into on umm...*cough cough torrentspy cough cough* ? Do they scream much?
Darkness
03-16-2006, 06:32 PM
Yeah, there usually is more growls then clean vocals, but theres an even amount on the new cd, Ghost Reveries. Theres no screaming on Damnation. But the rest have more growling. Check out Blackwater Park and Still Life first. Thats standard Opeth.
Krabsworth
03-16-2006, 06:33 PM
Okay thanks.
Darkness
03-16-2006, 06:35 PM
BTW I saw that Laiho video last night with the strings, that was hilarious. :lol:
Flynn
03-16-2006, 06:41 PM
I don't really like Closure. :(
Me neither...it's one of my least favorite Opeth songs.
Darkness
03-16-2006, 06:47 PM
Me neither...it's one of my least favorite Opeth songs.
But it's the heaviest off of Damnation!!!
..That's not saying much..
But you can't help but love that second acoustic riff thats like, incredibly evil/catchy.
Shadows
03-16-2006, 06:48 PM
Closure and Weakness are the only Damnation songs I don't like. It's a good thing Closure is followed by the amazing Hope Leaves.
eighty d
03-16-2006, 06:49 PM
I like Closure's acoustic parts. It just seems like Mike got lost and didn't know where to take it after that. Live it's good, but studio it just meanders and doesn't go anywhere.
The acoustic parts are wicked fun to play though.
Shattered_Future
03-16-2006, 06:49 PM
Hope Leaves is ungodly, though Closure absolutely rocks live. Keyboard solos = awesome.
Darkness
03-16-2006, 06:51 PM
Hope Leaves pwns all other post Still Life ballads.
Flynn
03-16-2006, 06:57 PM
Closure and Weakness are the only Damnation songs I don't like. It's a good thing Closure is followed by the amazing Hope Leaves.
I don't mind Weakness, it's a good song to just put on repeat and sleep to. I just can't stand Closure all of the sudden. The only thing I like about it, is when it ends and Hope Leaves begins.
Shadows
03-16-2006, 06:59 PM
Weakness isn't as bad as Closure, I just find the keyboard part during the intro very frightening.
Flynn
03-16-2006, 07:05 PM
Hope Leaves pwns all other post Still Life ballads.
I'm going to have to agree with you on that one. :)
eighty d
03-16-2006, 07:06 PM
Weakness is a very creepy song. I think it's the perfect song for how they use it. On Damnation it comes after Ending Credits and is a very somber end to the album. On Lamentations it make a great contrast between the mellow set and the heavy set.
Hope Leaves pwns all other post Still Life ballads.
a big 123 on that, good sir.
Flynn
03-16-2006, 07:10 PM
Something about Weakness reminds me of Super Metroid, I think on one level the music was very similar...
Shadows
03-16-2006, 07:11 PM
Something about Weakness reminds me of Super Metroid, I think on one level the music was very similar...
Now that you mention it, they do seem to fit together.
Krabsworth
03-16-2006, 07:13 PM
Ghost Reveries is great. I'm listening to it now.
Flynn
03-16-2006, 07:14 PM
Now that you mention it, they do seem to fit together.
It was that one underwater level...where you had to grapple a lot. That's it, I'm breaking out my SNES...
Ghost Reveries is great. I'm listening to it now.
It's a pretty solid album. I was obsessed with it when I first got it, but I don't listen to it nearly as much as I used to. Still, it's very enjoyable for a listen every once in a while.
The Grand Conjuration.....yes!
Shadows
03-16-2006, 07:17 PM
It was that one underwater level...where you had to grapple a lot. That's it, I'm breaking out my SNES...
Dude, can I spend the night at your house? I haven't played that game in so long! :( I can bring a sleeping bag and pillow...we'll stay up past midnight talking about girls and ninja turtles...drinking Tang the entire night. Yes! I am so coming over!
Flynn
03-16-2006, 07:20 PM
Ghost Reveries is great. I'm listening to it now.
Yeah, it's decent. It's actually starting to grow on me. I never used to like the album at all, (With the exception of Ghost Of Perdition). I guess it just needed to settle in, like most of Opeth's music, it grew on me like vines. Maybe next year I'll have more memories attached to the album and like it even better. Only time will tell.
Atonement and The Grand Conjuration are the only songs on the album I really don't care for.
Dude, can I spend the night at your house? I haven't played that game in so long! :( I can bring a sleeping bag and pillow...we'll stay up past midnight talking about girls and ninja turtles...drinking Tang the entire night. Yes! I am so coming over!
:lol: the only beverage here is Budweiser! :chug: God I haven't played Super Metroid for yeaaaaaars...
Shattered_Future
03-16-2006, 07:23 PM
I don't understand why everybody doesn't like The Grand Conjuration much...
Stormrider
03-16-2006, 07:27 PM
Mortal Kombat FTW for SNES. I don't have it anymore though :(
I'll listen to Grand Conjuration afterwards, but I remember not liking it either :-/
Flynn
03-16-2006, 07:28 PM
I don't understand why everybody doesn't like The Grand Conjuration much...
The song is too repetative. I don't like the way it opens or ends. The keyboards, IMO, sound out of tune to the song at times. I don't like the lyrics, drums, all guitars and it's too long for what it is.
Shadows
03-16-2006, 07:29 PM
:lol: the only beverage here is Budweiser! :chug: God I haven't played Super Metroid for yeaaaaaars...
Sounds good to me. We'll get drunk, play video games, look for women, and pass out on the floor of your place. :lol:
Shattered_Future
03-16-2006, 07:31 PM
I love that riff though...the really evil sounding one. Again, another mad fun riff to play.
Darkness
03-16-2006, 07:50 PM
Sounds good to me. We'll get drunk, play video games, look for women, and pass out on the floor of your place. :lol:
I want in!
Shattered, how can you like and defend The Grand Conjuration, but not like Face Of Melinda? :p
Shadius
03-16-2006, 07:55 PM
I've been meaning to ask...
What's everyone here's favourite bands besides Opeth? Just so we can see everyones backgrounds and what other type of music people like. Got me thinking after that round of everyone liking/hating different Opeth songs.
Shall we say five bands that you really like, either at the moment, or just generally. Mine would probably be;
Tool/APC
The Mars Volta
In Flames
Muse
Radiohead
Bands like Porcupine Tree, Pink Floyd and Iron Maiden would be up there too. I'm also really enjoying At the Drive-In's Relationship of Command album at the moment too, even though I can't really stand their older stuff.
Darkness
03-16-2006, 07:57 PM
Tool
Nevermore
In Flames
Emperor
And I've been listening to Blind Guardian a lot.
I also really like Death and Iced Earth right now.
Shadows
03-16-2006, 07:59 PM
Children of Bodom
Shadows Fall
Arsis
Cradle of Filth
I'm binging on Opeth though.
Otherside
03-16-2006, 07:59 PM
Mine would be Weezer, Radiohead, Godspeed you! Black Emperor, Muse, Explosions in the Sky, Sigur Ros, Wilco, Dinosaur Jr, and Elliott Smith.
Those are just what I'm currently digging, don't like making all-time favorite lists.
Opeth is really the only metal band I listen to.
Megadeth
Metallica
Kreator
Dream Theater
Incubus
I dunno, wide variety of different music (Although at the same time, a lot of it is the same)...
Shattered_Future
03-16-2006, 08:01 PM
I want in!
Shattered, how can you like and defend The Grand Conjuration, but not like Face Of Melinda? :p
No idea. I'm a weird guy.
Nightwish
Dark Tranquillity
Blind Guardian
Symphony X
Sonata Arctica/Arch Enemy (they're about even)
PM and MDM for me...though I like tons of other stuff, these are some of my favorites.
guitrguy
03-16-2006, 08:01 PM
Age of Silence
Winds
Beatles
Porcupine tree
Novembers Doom
Shadius
03-16-2006, 08:02 PM
I forgot to mention the Pumpkins too, the Smashing ones.
Opeth, In Flames and Iron Maiden are the only metal bands I would consider myself big fans of, in that order. Other ones I usually only listen to maybe a song or two of. I reckon it's the more progrssive elements of Opeth's music, along with Mikael's clean vocals that really attracted me to them, plus their general heaviness. I mean, they probably are the heaviest band I listen to.
I seem to have a weird thing for good prog bands and 90's/00's art-rock type bands.
Darkness
03-16-2006, 08:03 PM
I seem to have a weird thing for good prog bands and 90's/00's art-rock type bands.
Tool fans unite. :chug:
Otherside
03-16-2006, 08:04 PM
Who's Tool?
Porcupine Tree
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Blind Guardian
Death
Dream Theater
Manowar
Pelican
Those are up there in the ranks.
Shadius
03-16-2006, 08:05 PM
Tool fans unite. :chug:
:cool:
Who's Opeth?
Flynn
03-16-2006, 08:05 PM
I've been meaning to ask...
What's everyone here's favourite bands besides Opeth? Just so we can see everyones backgrounds and what other type of music people like. Got me thinking after that round of everyone liking/hating different Opeth songs.
Shall we say five bands that you really like, either at the moment, or just generally. Mine would probably be;
Tool/APC
The Mars Volta
In Flames
Muse
Radiohead
Bands like Porcupine Tree, Pink Floyd and Iron Maiden would be up there too. I'm also really enjoying At the Drive-In's Relationship of Command album at the moment too, even though I can't really stand their older stuff.
Death
Fragments Of Unbecoming
Red Sparowes
Into Eternity
Iron Maiden
Pelican
Darkness
03-16-2006, 08:06 PM
Who's Tool?
How quickly you Hispanics forget the excellence of the prog rock masterpeice that is Tool. :D
Queensrÿche
Tool
Symphony X
Bad Religion
Gamma Ray
And quite a lot more, but these five have been in the top for a long time.
Otherside
03-16-2006, 08:08 PM
How quickly you Hispanics forget the excellence of the prog rock masterpeice that is Tool. :D
XD
actually I havn't listened to them in a while... waiting for new album, I've pretty much played out the other cds.
Shadius
03-16-2006, 08:08 PM
What do you guys think of Pain of Salvation? You all seem to have good/decent tastes in music.
I've been wondering if I should check them out, anyway, which album would you guys say first, I've heard 'Be' and 'Remedy Lane' are their best?
Pain of Salvation is also one of my favourite bands. I would recommend 'Remedy Lane', as that is a little more accessible, I think. 'Be' is VERY progressive, but still very good.
Shattered_Future
03-16-2006, 08:11 PM
I have NO idea why POS is so good. My friend keeps getting mad at me for saying they're rather bad...I personally don't like them much, from what I've heard.
Stormrider
03-16-2006, 08:12 PM
Iced Earth
Blind Guardian
Nevermore
Death
Atheist
Edguy
Thats it for now. The first 2 never change though.
NP Death - The Philosopher
I need to get back into Opeth. I fear I may have outgrown them. Suggestions?
Since we're doing top 5s, I figured I might do it genrewise as in two similar bands I enjoy almost equally so people get a better idea of the music instead of looking at the anomaly.
Holcombe Waller/Jeff Buckley
Cafe Tacuba/Radiohead
Riverside/Agalloch
Woven Hand/Songs Ohia
November's Doom/Lacrimas Profundere
Oh, and the guy that wanted Pain of Salvation recommendations, Remedy Lane before Be though Be is a stronger album overall.
Shadius
03-16-2006, 08:17 PM
Alright, thanks guys. I might just get them in that order then.
Unless anyone has any objections?
Shattered_Future
03-16-2006, 08:19 PM
Listening to Remedy Lane, I can see why people like it...it just doesn't appeal to me at all though. I like prog, just I don't understand why this is so good, aside from the vocalist. He's quite excellent.
That is extremely true, Daniel Gildenlöw is easily one of my top 5 vocalists.
Well my TOP 5 favorite bands besides Opeth are:
Tool
Behemoth
Death
Agalloch
Haggard
Shadows
03-16-2006, 09:49 PM
I'm surprised by how many non-metal lovers there are here.
Darkness
03-16-2006, 09:51 PM
Well, Opeth does have a lot of non-metal stuff. :p
Cardboard Headgear
03-16-2006, 10:25 PM
I'm not sure what we're talking about right now cause I'm too lazy to go back a page, but I thought I'd just interject to say that Katatonia is amazing.
Flynn
03-16-2006, 10:50 PM
Didn't Åkerfeldt do the vocals to Brave Murder Day and Sounds of Decay?
Cardboard Headgear
03-16-2006, 10:53 PM
Yes the growls, but I prefer their albums after those more.
Flynn
03-16-2006, 10:54 PM
Have you heard anything from The Great Cold Distance ?
Shadows
03-16-2006, 10:55 PM
The Great Cold Distance isn't nearly as good as Viva Emptiness.
Cardboard Headgear
03-16-2006, 10:57 PM
Yeah, I've got the promo copy by less than legal means, but I plan to buy it anyways. Not to mention every song has got "You are listening to the song _____ from the forthcoming Katatonia album blablabalbah" interspersed throughout. Anyways, the album itself is fantastic, Anders's voice just keeps getting more mature, though it has it's own great charm on the older stuff when he didn't have as much control over it.
The Great Cold Distance isn't nearly as good as Viva Emptiness.
Well, right now I'd agree, BUT the album hasn't had much of a chance to grow on me, and all of Katatonia's albums are growers for sure. There'll be a few songs that stick to you right away on each album, but then the more you listen the more they all start to rule.
Flynn
03-16-2006, 11:02 PM
I haven't heard anything from the latest album yet, but if it's decent, I will buy it. btw, is that Chuck in your avatar?
Moses
03-17-2006, 12:21 AM
I have NO idea why POS is so good. My friend keeps getting mad at me for saying they're rather bad...I personally don't like them much, from what I've heard.
Remedy Lane is the most accessible, if you want somthing truly mindbending listen to Be. They really really grow on you. It's like they carry the true essence of prog better than any band I can think of.
Det_Nosnip
03-17-2006, 02:21 AM
I've been meaning to ask...
What's everyone here's favourite bands besides Opeth? Just so we can see everyones backgrounds and what other type of music people like. Got me thinking after that round of everyone liking/hating different Opeth songs.
Shall we say five bands that you really like, either at the moment, or just generally. Mine would probably be;
Tool/APC
The Mars Volta
In Flames
Muse
Radiohead
Bands like Porcupine Tree, Pink Floyd and Iron Maiden would be up there too. I'm also really enjoying At the Drive-In's Relationship of Command album at the moment too, even though I can't really stand their older stuff.
Hmm....in the rock/metal category?
the Gathering (can you tell?)
Nevermore
Tool
After Forever
Dark Tranquillity
I'm about equally into jazz as I am into metal, and I'm also really into alot of world music, mostly Middle Eastern, Celtic and latin. And, of course, you've gotta love the classics - Liszt, Orff, Rachmaninov, Tchaichovsky, Mozart, etc. I'm pretty much always discovering something new. :)
Det_Nosnip
03-17-2006, 02:23 AM
Haggard
:chug: Those guys are awesome...don't get nearly as much attention as they deserve. Eppur Si Muove = :amaze: .
What I've been listening to...past couple days I've been going back to the classics a lot. My top 5 would probably be
Porcupine Tree
Pink Floyd
Hendrix
Cream
Deep Purple
What I've been listening to...past couple days I've been going back to the classics a lot. My top 5 would probably be
Porcupine Tree
Pink Floyd
Hendrix
Cream
Deep Purple
/Just purchased Hendrix "Best Of..." :cool:
MidnightRider
03-17-2006, 10:17 AM
My top 5 outside of Opeth are:
Pink Floyd
Porcupine Tree
Tool/APC
Dream Theater
Radiohead
UpperDecker
03-17-2006, 11:03 AM
Cryptopsy
Slayer
Korn
Nile
Between The Buried and Me
Whale and Wasp
03-17-2006, 05:37 PM
top 5 other than opeth...
camel
pink floyd
pantera
ozzy
joe satriani
It appears the Opeth thread's topics of conversation have nothing to do with Opeth...
Shadows
03-17-2006, 05:42 PM
Someone asked for people's top 5 favorite bands besides Opeth to get an idea of everyone's taste. It's the first time I've seen this thread go off topic.
guitrguy
03-17-2006, 06:03 PM
So how long is Lopez going to be out?
:chug: Those guys are awesome...don't get nearly as much attention as they deserve. Eppur Si Muove = :amaze: .
Ah, Haggard. They are great. Very singular, indeed.
[Shadowfox]
03-17-2006, 06:25 PM
/thread n00b
Big Opeth fan. They've been a huge influence on my musical perception. And from browsing the past few pages, I'll go ahead and post my top five outside if Opeth.
Mastodon
Metallica
All Shall Perish
Hendrix
Emperor
Five isn't enough...
Hey there, stick around will you :).
So how long is Lopez going to be out?
No word on it, but it's already been a while so I would assume it would be a while longer.
TojesDolan
03-17-2006, 07:43 PM
OMG lists!
I don't think I'm that fond of other bands... Opeth is MY life. :(
Nonetheless:
Death
King Crimson
Dream Theater (And all it's variables)
Iron Maiden
And I don't know... Probably In flames. Those are the ones in the top of my mind at the moment.
I started watching the DVD again. I love it so bad.
guitrguy
03-17-2006, 07:49 PM
Hey there, stick around will you :).
No word on it, but it's already been a while so I would assume it would be a while longer.
Hopefully the replacement can do Lopez justice.
He does live, but I'm sure Lopez will still be able to do studio stuff.
guitrguy
03-17-2006, 08:06 PM
He does live, but I'm sure Lopez will still be able to do studio stuff.
Ya I meant for their show, I'm sure the disease isn't serious enough that Lopez would have to quit that band.
Axenrot just looks out of place if only because he has blonde hair. It clashes with the rest of the band :p.
Darkness
03-17-2006, 08:17 PM
Axenrot just looks out of place if only because he has blonde hair. It clashes with the rest of the band :p.
Heh yeah...
I wonder what a studio album with him playing would sound like... don't say "O IT WUD SUCK CUZ MARTIN ROX", I'm actually wandering what good death metal beats would sound like in the harsher sound of Opeth...
I don't want to hear blast beats, I know that. I think it would be similar to the style on the first 2 albums.
Darkness
03-17-2006, 08:22 PM
I like blast beats... :p
Me too, but not in Opeth.
Darkness
03-17-2006, 08:24 PM
Why not take there extreme part farther? Theres always room for more progression in Opeth.
guitrguy
03-17-2006, 08:25 PM
Axenrot just looks out of place if only because he has blonde hair. It clashes with the rest of the band :p.
He's a tr00 swede.
Why not take there extreme part farther? Theres always room for more progression in Opeth.
But it's so cliche at this point. It wouldn't progress the music in any way imo.
Darkness
03-17-2006, 08:27 PM
But it's so cliche at this point. It wouldn't progress the music in any way imo.
Opeth never put any limits on themselves in the past...
Shadows
03-17-2006, 08:28 PM
But it's so cliche at this point. It wouldn't progress the music in any way imo.
How is it cliche?
But it's so cliche at this point. It wouldn't progress the music in any way imo.
Not to mention I would take Martin Lopez's incredible finesse and subtle style over any in-your-face, play-as-fast-and-loud-as-I-can metal drummer any day. He is to drums what Mikael Akerfeldt is to songwriting in metal.
Darkness
03-17-2006, 08:31 PM
Not to mention I would take Martin Lopez's incredible finesse and subtle style over any in-your-face, play-as-fast-and-loud-as-I-can metal drummer any day. He is to drums what Mikael Akerfeldt is to songwriting in metal.
Well yeah, but whats wrong with a truly aggressive beat for the more brutal sections?
TojesDolan
03-17-2006, 08:31 PM
Either that or it will sound a lot more technical, and very blasty.
My parents think blast beats is music from the devil. :(
They don't mind Harvest though. Harvest gets everyone.
Well yeah, but whats wrong with a truly aggressive beat for the more brutal sections?
Far as I can tell Opeth have had some insanely brutal beats...brutaller than anything I've heard. Then again I don't listen to anything heavier than Opeth so I wouldn't know, but they sound plenty aggressive to me at times like Wreath or Deliverance.
Moses
03-17-2006, 08:33 PM
I'd love to hear some more stuff like the middle part of Under the Weeping Moon.
Darkness
03-17-2006, 08:34 PM
I was just thinking of those 2 songs... but imagine an even more death metal like beat over the first few min in Wreath? I think if used correctly, blast beats could sound nice in Opeth. But it won't ever happen, so forget it...
How is it cliche?
Because every heavy band with death metal influences uses them. I see no reason to start using them as Lopez's style crushes any blastbeat in Opeth songs.
I just don't want to see them in my favorite band, I love the drumming as it is. Maybe VERY light use of them, but nothing more.
Shadows
03-17-2006, 09:18 PM
Opeth really uses no techniques that metal bands haven't used 3627505 times beforehand. If anything blast beats would be very fresh sounding, since they've never used them before. I can picture them making Deliverance even better.
guitrguy
03-17-2006, 09:20 PM
Opeth really uses no techniques that metal bands haven't used 3627505 times beforehand. If anything blast beats would be very fresh sounding, since they've never used them before. I can picture them making Deliverance even better.
Even they're heavy stuff is very melodic. I just don't see how blast beats would accentuate their melodies.
Shadows
03-17-2006, 09:22 PM
Listen to the intros of Wreath and Deliverance. Does that sound particularly melodic? I'm not saying use them whenever possible, but if they used them during especially brutal times like those two intros, it would sound great.
Darkness
03-17-2006, 09:24 PM
Opeth really uses no techniques that metal bands haven't used 3627505 times beforehand. If anything blast beats would be very fresh sounding, since they've never used them before. I can picture them making Deliverance even better.
Yeah, I agree. Just something new that could work well for them, thats all.
I don't even know a "blast beat" is :\
vashts80
03-17-2006, 09:45 PM
I'm preferring Axe right now. I like his little snare rolls on songs like Deliverance atm, as opposed to the tom fills M-Lo did. I posted this on the Opeth forum, but I wouldn't mind Lopez as a strictly studio drummer/songwriter while Axe plays the stuff live, as long as he can pull it off.
"Blast beat is a drum beat consisting of rapid alternating strokes on the snare and bass drums. The snare drum forms the focus of such a beat, with bass drum often played beneath the snare to create a 'wall of sound'. The hi-hat or a ride cymbal is often played simultaneously with either the bass drum or rarely with the snare drum, however crash cymbal or china cymbals can often be featured as well. Bell accents on the ride cymbal are often employed in the same manner as accents in funkier drumming styles in order to give the beat an emphasised 'push'. Diverse patterns and timings are also frequently used by more technical players." - Wikipedia.
Shattered_Future
03-17-2006, 10:03 PM
I've noticed that blast beats usually detract more from a song then add to it. They sound really off on occasion with the rest of the music.
invisiman
03-17-2006, 10:17 PM
I've noticed that blast beats usually detract more from a song then add to it. They sound really off on occasion with the rest of the music.
I agree with those sentiments.
Darkness
03-17-2006, 10:22 PM
I've noticed that blast beats usually detract more from a song then add to it. They sound really off on occasion with the rest of the music.
Check out "Thorns On My Grave" by Emperor.. I think that sounds awesome.
=-fukifiknow-=
03-18-2006, 12:09 AM
Karma = opeths heaviest
/now listening to "on an island" by david gilmour but when i hop in the car in a few mins, KARRAMMMMAAAAA
Ist Nein Kreig
03-18-2006, 05:51 AM
Someone needs to teach Opeth the meaning of the word "motif", and tell them to apply it to their music.
To be fair, they aren't as bad as Enmity or Origin (particularly on their first album) when it comes to lack of direction or motif in their music.
Check out Still Life and My Arms Your Hearse, they are concept albums. Blackwater Park also has a lot of motifs running through it, lyrically. These are the most noticeable, at least.
ok lateralus
03-18-2006, 08:46 AM
to bring up a topic from a few pages ago:
mine are
Radiohead
Hendrix
The Beatles
Sigur Ros
Pink Floyd
penelope weird hands
03-18-2006, 08:58 AM
Mine would be:
Tool
Radiohead
Mastodon
Nine Inch Nails
The Smashing Pumpkins
Probably the five most influential bands, for me, outside of Opeth.. although five is too few.. as, I believe, was mentioned before.
Interesting to see how there seems to be quite a few Radiohead fans that are also fans of Opeth.
Flynn
03-18-2006, 11:37 AM
Karma = opeths heaviest
/now listening to "on an island" by david gilmour but when i hop in the car in a few mins, KARRAMMMMAAAAA
That's my Favorite Opeth song. :thumb:
Darkness
03-18-2006, 12:06 PM
That's my Favorite Opeth song. :thumb:
Better then Black Rose Immortal?!
Shadows
03-18-2006, 12:07 PM
Better then Black Rose Immortal?!
Better than Black Rose Immortal!
Det_Nosnip
03-18-2006, 12:32 PM
Someone needs to teach Opeth the meaning of the word "motif", and tell them to apply it to their music.
To be fair, they aren't as bad as Enmity or Origin (particularly on their first album) when it comes to lack of direction or motif in their music.
Someone did, and the product was My Arms Your Hearse-Ghost Reveries.
:chug: Those guys are awesome...don't get nearly as much attention as they deserve. Eppur Si Muove = :amaze: .
I know man, I made a Haggard thread last year and it failed horribly but their awesome indeed. IMO their best album is Awaking The Centuries (and also their best song). :)
Toaster
03-18-2006, 12:44 PM
I'd love to hear some more stuff like the middle part of Under the Weeping Moon.
Atonement reminds me of that style a bit.
I don't think blast beats would fit in Opeth. I'm a huge fan of them, and I've rarely heard one that I thought didn't fit, but I think they'd take away a lot of the subtlety and power of Opeth's music. I enjoy hearing a really heavy part that doesn't rely on constant blasting to make it aggressive. Deliverance, Karma, Demon of the Fall, the middle of Serenity Painted Death.. all examples of what I'm talking about.
guitrguy
03-18-2006, 01:18 PM
OPETH tomorrow. I am so excited!
ok lateralus
03-18-2006, 05:09 PM
I just bought Camel- Moonmadness. I figured they would be good cause Mike praises them so highly and also I'm into 70's prog like KC and Yes. Anyone else get into Camel?
[Shadowfox]
03-18-2006, 06:18 PM
Yeah, I've heard a few Camel songs. Good stuff.
Crysiss
03-18-2006, 09:54 PM
I tried chcking out camel a couple times. Didnt quite succeed at finding anything and there wasnt anything in the music store.
I think i need a special order or sumfin
Flynn
03-18-2006, 10:48 PM
Better then Black Rose Immortal?!
Now that I've thought about it, no. But Karma is up there, real close...
Darkness
03-18-2006, 10:49 PM
Now that I've thought about it, no. But Karma is up there, real close...
/sigh of relief
I thought we lost our good ol' Morningrise fanboy for a second. :thumb:
Flynn
03-18-2006, 10:50 PM
:lol: I'll always be a Morningrise fanboy. :)
sonicst0rm
03-18-2006, 10:52 PM
Atonement reminds me of that style a bit.
I don't think blast beats would fit in Opeth. I'm a huge fan of them, and I've rarely heard one that I thought didn't fit, but I think they'd take away a lot of the subtlety and power of Opeth's music. I enjoy hearing a really heavy part that doesn't rely on constant blasting to make it aggressive. Deliverance, Karma, Demon of the Fall, the middle of Serenity Painted Death.. all examples of what I'm talking about.
I don't like blast beats but I like a lot of double bass.... Yanic Bercier of Quo Vadis does it really well. There's no blast beats in his drumming but it's still some of the fastest around (lots of fills)
I think one of Opeth's best 'heavy' moments is the breakdown part @ 4:10 in Gost of Perdition, in clean vocals too, surprisingly. No blast beats, growling, or fast drumming, and it's still powerful as hell.
Darkness
03-18-2006, 10:54 PM
^ Kind of like all (save the slow part) of Blackwater Park.. only a select few parts are fast, but its all brutal as hell.
:lol: I'll always be a Morningrise fanboy. :)
Good to hear. :p
Shattered_Future
03-18-2006, 11:18 PM
Yea, BWP conveys its true evil without speed or blast beats.
UpperDecker
03-18-2006, 11:37 PM
In all honesty, Still Day Beneath The Sun is probably the best song i've ever heard. I'm not comparing it to any music standards. It's just so amazing. I can't even describe it, its just so wonderful. Man did i make this post sound fanboyish or what. Oh well, this is the greatest song ever in my book.
Darkness
03-18-2006, 11:38 PM
^ Yes, that song is excellent.
Shattered_Future
03-18-2006, 11:38 PM
I have to sort of agree with you there. While it's not the best song EVER (that goes to either And Then There Was Silence by Blind Guardian or Ghost Love Score by Nightwish :thumb:) it certainly is one of the best acoustic songs Opeth has done.
UpperDecker
03-18-2006, 11:46 PM
I just get so much out of the song (Still Day Beneath The Sun). It makes you feel so much. I'm starting to sound like a little emo bitch, this'll probly be my last post about this.
Flynn
03-18-2006, 11:53 PM
No, you don't sound like an emo bitch, ...it's a great song, definitely worth talking about. Patterns In The Ivy II is great also.
UpperDecker
03-18-2006, 11:55 PM
No, you don't sound like an emo bitch, ...it's a great song, definitely worth talking about. Patterns In The Ivy II is great also.
I still have never heard Patterns part II. I guess since Patterns part I isn't all that great to me. Is it alot different/better than part I?
Darkness
03-19-2006, 12:01 AM
It's alot similar to Still Day, just different guitar parts, and different lyrics.
I can send it to you tomorrow, if you want.
UpperDecker
03-19-2006, 12:03 AM
It's alot similar to Still Day, just different guitar parts, and different lyrics.
I can send it to you tomorrow, if you want.
Thanks but i can just download it. Thanks again.
Darkness
03-19-2006, 12:06 AM
Alright. I do recommend the download. That one appealed to me more then Still Day at first for some reason, though now I like both equall.
UpperDecker
03-19-2006, 12:14 AM
Can anyone here play Godheads Lament on guitar? If so, i'd really like to hear it.
Killtacular
03-19-2006, 02:17 AM
You crazy kids with your guitars and your "strings."
And your "notes."
Det_Nosnip
03-19-2006, 02:49 AM
Huh? :confused:
penelope weird hands
03-19-2006, 09:00 AM
^Obviously a percussionist. :)
I haven't heard Still Day Beneath The Sun, or Patterns In The Ivy II.. ;|
penelope_weird_hands@yahoo.com.au
Please, please, please ?
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guitrguy
03-19-2006, 09:44 AM
I'll be leaving for New Orleans to see Opeth in a few minutes.
penelope weird hands
03-19-2006, 10:07 AM
^Excellent, man.
Be sure to post how it went.
Only another month to wait, for me !
JamJar
03-19-2006, 10:13 AM
^Obviously a percussionist. :)
I haven't heard Still Day Beneath The Sun, or Patterns In The Ivy II.. ;|
penelope_weird_hands@yahoo.com.au
Please, please, please ?
I'll give you money! Power! Women!! .......... Men !?
I'll give more money/power/women if I can have it aswell!
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Flynn
03-19-2006, 10:35 AM
I still have never heard Patterns part II. I guess since Patterns part I isn't all that great to me. Is it alot different/better than part I?
If you like Still Day Beneath The Sun, you will definitely like Patterns In The Ivy II, and yes it's way better then Part I...IMO.
ok lateralus
03-19-2006, 12:01 PM
anyone willing to send still day beneath the sun and/or patterns in the Ivy II?
oklateralus@yahoo.com
AIM= m0rningrise
thanks
Darkness
03-19-2006, 01:04 PM
I guess I'll get on that now then...
Neoteric
03-19-2006, 01:07 PM
I just bought Still Life and all I can say is wow! I had BWP but this is just godly!
Darkness
03-19-2006, 01:09 PM
^It sure is... Still Life is becoming my favorite, even though I said I'd never have a favorite Opeth album.
Sent.
Killtacular
03-19-2006, 01:16 PM
Still Life > Blackwater Park
Forever and always.
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