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Darkness
03-07-2006, 06:27 PM
I just create a text file or something, paste it there, copy the other, paste it there, then have both. :cool:

Deth
03-07-2006, 08:01 PM
Hey, me too. It's what I did when I sent you that awesome Blind Guardian song you didn't appreciate :angry:.

Flynn
03-07-2006, 08:20 PM
I kind of agree, except for MAYH, which is an amazing album

Definitely. I can't get enough of that album, the feeling I get when I listen to it is amazing.

ok lateralus
03-07-2006, 08:27 PM
I've been really getting into the song When recently, it's one of my favorites now.

Flynn
03-07-2006, 11:15 PM
I've been really getting into the song When recently, it's one of my favorites now.


That song is really good. I always get misty the last few lines...

Det_Nosnip
03-07-2006, 11:15 PM
You'd probably appreciate this then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G2jlXUkJ84&search=Opeth

Shadows
03-07-2006, 11:17 PM
I've been really getting into the song When recently, it's one of my favorites now.
Me too. I love everything about that song. Fun to play too, except the first solo has annoying fingering.

I'm using By the Pain I See In Others for a school video. :)

Flynn
03-07-2006, 11:27 PM
You'd probably appreciate this then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G2jlXUkJ84&search=Opeth


Thank you :)

Edit: That was uncoooooooooooooooooooooooool

Slapping Penguin
03-08-2006, 06:35 AM
I'm using By the Pain I See In Others for a school video.

What about mate?

penelope weird hands
03-08-2006, 07:15 AM
I think Still Life and Blackwater Park are their best.

Yeah, me too, Moses.
Best song-writing, IMO.

But God damn..
I just can't seem to get into Orchid or Morningrise like any of their other albums. :\
The production doesn't worry me either.. they just don't seem to flow all too well.

I need to listen to them alot more, I'm sure I'll appreciate them after more thorough listens.
Hopefully, they will grow on me like vines. (<- borrowed from Flynn, sorry. :smoke: )

i am the robots
03-08-2006, 07:24 AM
Haha, grow on you like vines... they grope me like the firm, erotic, grip of a loving tentacle monster.

penelope weird hands
03-08-2006, 10:20 AM
The Moor.

That is all.

*eargasmspasms myself*

EDIT: Has anyone seen Opeth play any songs from Still Life other than White Cluster? Live, of course.

Shadius
03-08-2006, 10:34 AM
They play the Moor and Godhead's Lament all the time. I've read they play Serentiy Painted Death too. They don't usually play White Cluster, they only did that recently as a rare thing, I believe.

They also played Face of Melinda fairly recently too, and Benighted for the first time when they were doing the Damnation tour.

Wo@lcan
03-08-2006, 11:37 AM
Opeth is coming to my town in June... I've heard alot of good things about their guitarists and I think I'm going to attend their show but I haven't heard much of them to be honest. Can someone recommend me some songs that aren't too black metal? I'm not the biggest fan of black metal in general...

JamJar
03-08-2006, 11:44 AM
Opeth is coming to my town in June... I've heard alot of good things about their guitarists and I think I'm going to attend their show but I haven't heard much of them to be honest. Can someone recommend me some songs that aren't too black metal? I'm not the biggest fan of black metal in general...

The 'Peth are hardly black metal.

Songs:

Softer Stuff:

To Bid You Farwell
Credence
Face Of Melinda
Benighted
Harvest
Windowpane
In My Time Of Need
Death Whispered A Lullaby
To Rid The Disease
A Fair Judgement
Isolation Years

Heavier Stuff:

April Ethereal
When
Demon Of The Fall
The Moor
Godhead's Lament
Serenity Painted Death
The Leper Affinity
Bleak
The Drapery Falls
Deliverence
Master's Apprentices
Ghost Of Perdition
The Baying Of The Hounds

Those are the best! Far too many but too hard to pick from. :P

I'll leave someone else to name songs from Morningrise and Orchid as I'm not really to big a fan of those albums.

Stoo
03-08-2006, 11:52 AM
BRI??

And the played White Cluster when I went.

Wo@lcan
03-08-2006, 12:13 PM
The 'Peth are hardly black metal.

Songs:

Softer Stuff:

To Bid You Farwell
Credence
Face Of Melinda
Benighted
Harvest
Windowpane
In My Time Of Need
Death Whispered A Lullaby
To Rid The Disease
A Fair Judgement
Isolation Years

Heavier Stuff:

April Ethereal
When
Demon Of The Fall
The Moor
Godhead's Lament
Serenity Painted Death
The Leper Affinity
Bleak
The Drapery Falls
Deliverence
Master's Apprentices
Ghost Of Perdition
The Baying Of The Hounds

Those are the best! Far too many but too hard to pick from. :P

I'll leave someone else to name songs from Morningrise and Orchid as I'm not really to big a fan of those albums.
Wow I didn't expect that! Thanks man!
What I meant by black metal (I'm not that good at seperating genres like black/death/viking metal and so on) is the "I'm an angry orc" vocals.

I've heard Opeth has some of that :upset:

JamJar
03-08-2006, 12:27 PM
Wow I didn't expect that! Thanks man!
What I meant by black metal (I'm not that good at seperating genres like black/death/viking metal and so on) is the "I'm an angry orc" vocals.

I've heard Opeth has some of that :upset:

Opeth are the only band with "I'm an angry orc" vocals that I can actually stand and are easily balanced out with the mellow acoustic passages.

Wo@lcan
03-08-2006, 12:48 PM
Opeth are the only band with "I'm an angry orc" vocals that I can actually stand and are easily balanced out with the mellow acoustic passages.
Yeah the band sounds really great but the vocals kinda ruins stuff a little for me. Maybe I'll get used to it over time.

Stoo
03-08-2006, 12:50 PM
Its weird hearing someone say Mike's vocals ruin it.

JamJar
03-08-2006, 01:06 PM
Its weird hearing someone say Mike's vocals ruin it.

My brother says it sadly. Though, fortunately, he is starting to like them more and more especially after I suggested Damnation to him.

Shattered_Future
03-08-2006, 01:51 PM
If anything, Mike makes the music BETTER. Imagine them with...say...Karl Sanders as a frontman. Wouldn't work...

Shred Danson
03-08-2006, 01:56 PM
Its weird hearing someone say Mike's vocals ruin it.

My rythym guitarist said this of them after seeing them at Sounds of The Underground:

"Man, they were boring! He wasn't that great of a singer and their songs were too long!" (he's not the most keen of metal fans :p) I proceeded to make fun of his obsession with Dave Mustaine.

Toaster
03-08-2006, 02:26 PM
If anything, Mike makes the music BETTER. Imagine them with...say...Karl Sanders as a frontman. Wouldn't work...

Sanders' singing voice is good for a few laughs though.

Crysiss
03-08-2006, 02:40 PM
Its weird hearing someone say Mike's vocals ruin it.

yea. Mike has one of the best singing voices in the metal genre. Well, i dont want to make him out as a god, But he does have a great voice.

Missed my concert on the 5th:upset:

JamJar
03-08-2006, 02:41 PM
yea. Mike has one of the best singing voices in the metal genre. Well, i dont want to make him out as a god, But he does have a great voice.

Missed my concert on the 5th:upset:

That sucks. Why did you miss it?

Stormrider
03-08-2006, 02:42 PM
That sucks. Why did you miss it ?

Woah, I think me and JamJar are mind related somehow :p

JamJar
03-08-2006, 02:43 PM
That sucks. Why did you miss it ?

Woah, I think me and JamJar are mind related somehow :p

That's scary! :P

Crysiss
03-08-2006, 02:49 PM
That sucks. Why did you miss it?


My step-dad was going to take me, because he didnt want me taking his truck, but his sister got real sick and she was about to die of cancer.

I was pretty psyched about it, but i understood. Hell i was even getting ready to give him a couple hundred bucks.

JamJar
03-08-2006, 02:51 PM
My step-dad was going to take me, cuz he didnt want me taking his car, but his sister got real sick and shes about to die.
I understood though.

Wow... ummm... that's really, really bad and I'm sorry for you and your step-dad's family. That's really bad. :(

TojesDolan
03-08-2006, 02:55 PM
The biggest complains I've heard:

a) Vocals
b) length of the songs

Those are the "worst" things aobut Opeth. Then again, growled vocals aren't for everyone. I'll audition for a band at school (it's only 10-13 year old kids) As a vocalist. I'll give them a little death metal esque growling and see what happens. Yeah.

Whale and Wasp
03-08-2006, 02:58 PM
aaaah i wish i could growl well.....but i dont know how.....and i sound especially weird when i try to cause im a girl

Stormrider
03-08-2006, 03:01 PM
Meh I wish I could sing but...I'm not too good at it. I sometimes will sing along to something, not very good but its OK, then my voice cracks and I shut up :p

Crysiss
03-08-2006, 03:04 PM
The only thing i can do vocal-wise is the high pitched raspy thing.

Like BDM, I suck at low pitched growls

EDIT: Sorry gotta rephrase that, i make it look like i said BDM sucks at low growls.
I can do highpitched screams like BDM, there lol

JamJar
03-08-2006, 03:04 PM
Meh I wish I could sing but...I'm not too good at it. I sometimes will sing along to something, not very good but its OK, then my voice cracks and I shut up :p

I have a range of about two octaves before i get into my falsetto. (Which I can't control at all.) I'm no good at agressive vocals and I find Mikael's clean vocals to suite my voice (Especially on Damnation, though they're still not great). My growling is inomprehendable. Terrible.

Stormrider
03-08-2006, 03:08 PM
I don't have a menacing voice.. whenever i try it like all falls apart. I only soing along to clean parts.

I should sing along more though...

JamJar
03-08-2006, 03:13 PM
I don't have a menacing voice.. whenever i try it like all falls apart. I only soing laong to clean parts.

I should sing laong more though...

Same typo twice. :P

I sing along even if it sounds awful. Me trying to sing to Maiden = hilarious!

Moses
03-08-2006, 03:18 PM
I have about two octaves before my falsetto and I can growl pretty well. Death metal growls are the easiest for me though I can do a pretty good mid-range scream. I have a jazz type singing voice kind of like Mark Murphy's but not quite as good as him obviously. Another vocalist I sing like, whom more of you might know, is Gavin from dredg.

Stormrider
03-08-2006, 03:18 PM
Same typo twice. :P

I sing along even if it sounds awful. Me trying to sing to Maiden = hilarious!

Hehe, fixed that. :p

I dont know, I have no aggressive voice. It doesnt come out as agressive...never. Wimpy me lol

Like I siad with practice I'm sure Ide get a bit better.

Toaster
03-08-2006, 03:30 PM
I can growl pretty well, I can do midrange vocals to an extent, but I don't have a good-sounding scream at all. I was born with great control over falsetto, though. :cool:

Kelvin
03-08-2006, 03:53 PM
Going to see opeth in four hours!!!!:)

Tyr
03-08-2006, 03:57 PM
My falsetto's pretty good, and the midrange vocals are pretty decent, as well. Especially the higher ones and my deep, boomy singing (has no clue whatsoever of the name). My scream, on the other hand is terrible, and the growls tend to vary from day to day. They probably don't, really, I'm guessing that my perception of my growls vary... or something.

Shattered_Future
03-08-2006, 03:59 PM
I can't scream, but I can growl. And rather well, I think...

Shadows
03-08-2006, 04:05 PM
I can do a Phlegton style growl. It's very easy and sounds great when I cup my hand around the mic.

Now that I have every Opeth album, I can't believe I didn't like Still Life and Deliverance before. I now know this band has never released a bad album.

Darkness
03-08-2006, 04:18 PM
Going to see opeth in four hours!!!!:)
Where you at? me to dude!

LOOVER
03-08-2006, 04:31 PM
3 1/2 hours now guys. Can't wait.

Shattered_Future
03-08-2006, 04:34 PM
Still Life I'm still attempting to get into, but Deliverance i adore. Some great material on there...

Master's Apprentices and By The Pain I See In Others = \m/ worthy.

Kelvin
03-08-2006, 04:34 PM
Edmonton man. I'm going to the mall real soon to see if they might be walking around.

TojesDolan
03-08-2006, 04:52 PM
Still Life I'm still attempting to get into, but Deliverance i adore. Some great material on there...

Master's Apprentices and By The Pain I See In Others = \m/ worthy.
I like the backward-going solo that's played and other lead-guitar things, but overall it feels like... a song from the first couple albumns... you know, the riffs aren't all very tight together... but I still like that song a lot.

Anyway, I don't know excatly how many octaves I can sing to, but I suppose they aren't many. I can growl at times, but after too much growling, it just fades and sounds godawful. I don't have a very high pitch, either. I think bass or something like that. yeah.

Shattered_Future
03-08-2006, 04:55 PM
I have a voice where I can do the low stuff Dani Filth does without a pitchshifter, and a falsetto where I can sing I Believe In A Thing Called Love (the chorus) on key and on octave, but no midrange. It blows. :amaze:

Shadows
03-08-2006, 05:18 PM
I have that exact same thing, except I have an adequate midrange. I can sing Mikael's clean parts when he doesn't go extremely high. It does pay to come from a family of singers, only I wish I was as good as my parents. :(

Shattered_Future
03-08-2006, 05:32 PM
I mean, I can hit most stuff on pitch (usually...at least, I think I can) but I don't have a powerful voice at all. It kinda sucks, as I'm a huge guy...

Kage
03-08-2006, 06:02 PM
Still Life I'm still attempting to get into, but Deliverance i adore. Some great material on there...

Master's Apprentices and By The Pain I See In Others = \m/ worthy.
The best parts of the album Deliverance for me are Mike's amazing guitar solos. Some of his best licks on there.

Stormrider
03-08-2006, 06:33 PM
Now that I have every Opeth album, I can't believe I didn't like Still Life and Deliverance before. I now know this band has never released a bad album.

Didn't you just have 2 Opeth abums yesterday ?

Oh well...

NP Blind Guardian - Bards Song In the Forest live

I mean, I can hit most stuff on pitch (usually...at least, I think I can) but I don't have a powerful voice at all. It kinda sucks, as I'm a huge guy...

Same here.

Deth
03-08-2006, 07:39 PM
I can pull of Dark Tranquillity style vocals as well as the less intense growls (The Moor and stuff) decently. My clean voice isn't anything to write home about though.

Shadius
03-08-2006, 07:54 PM
Does anyone have Opeth's version of Iron Maiden's Remember Tomorrow that they could upload and send to my email?

junkiesandwhores@hotmail.com

I would love you so much if someone could do that for me, I don't have it here on my computer at University, and I have a huge craving to hear it.

Deth
03-08-2006, 07:55 PM
Does anyone have Opeth's version of Iron Maiden's Remember Tomorrow that they could upload and send to my email?

junkiesandwhores@hotmail.com

I would love you so much if someone could do that for me, I don't have it here on my computer at University, and I have a huge craving to hear it.
I'll start now.

Panvium
03-08-2006, 07:57 PM
Could I get that too please?

ObsoL33T@hotmail.com

Deth
03-08-2006, 07:59 PM
Sure.

Toaster
03-08-2006, 07:59 PM
I mean, I can hit most stuff on pitch (usually...at least, I think I can) but I don't have a powerful voice at all. It kinda sucks, as I'm a huge guy...

Yeah, the worst part about my singing voice is how weak it sounds. It's pretty nasal and thin. I can sing in pitch though.

I'll send you Remember Tomorrow, Shadius.

Whoops, never mind.

Moses
03-08-2006, 08:02 PM
Yeah, the worst part about my singing voice is how weak it sounds. It's pretty nasal and thin. I can sing in pitch though.

I'll send you Remember Tomorrow, Shadius.

Whoops, never mind.
Get vocal lessons. It'll help your tone, pitch control and range and singing in general along with making your voice stronger. Anyone can benefit from vocal lessons.

guitrguy
03-08-2006, 08:02 PM
Yeah, the worst part about my singing voice is how weak it sounds. It's pretty nasal and thin. I can sing in pitch though.

I'll send you Remember Tomorrow, Shadius.

Whoops, never mind.
try to sing from your gut, and lift your soft pallet when you singing. It will create a thick and more heady tone. Trying to sing in an operatic tone will help you trying to get a fuller tone.

Moses
03-08-2006, 08:04 PM
try to sing from your gut, and lift your soft pallet when you singing. It will create a thick and more heady tone. Trying to sing in an operatic tone will help you trying to get a fuller tone.
You can't really get the operatic tone by trying though, you can find it but it takes alot of exploration in your own voice or have a vocal teacher coach you.

Definately sing with your gut though.

Deth
03-08-2006, 08:06 PM
Song is sent to both who requested it.

Toaster
03-08-2006, 08:07 PM
Get vocal lessons. It'll help your tone, pitch control and range and singing in general along with making your voice stronger. Anyone can benefit from vocal lessons.

I'd love to, but I'm far too self-conscious. I'd even be embarrassed to ask my parents.

I have a great falsetto (I think), but I have a terribly weak-sounding head voice.. my falsetto is actually stronger and thicker than my head voice.

Moses
03-08-2006, 08:10 PM
I'd love to, but I'm far too self-conscious. I'd even be embarrassed to ask my parents.

I have a great falsetto (I think), but I have a terribly weak-sounding head voice.. my falsetto is actually stronger and thicker than my head voice.
Sing from the bottom of your gut. Also try the vocal lessons in the Jam Session section of the forums.

Toaster
03-08-2006, 08:13 PM
Sing from the bottom of your gut. Also try the vocal lessons in the Jam Session section of the forums.

I've been checking those lessons out for the past few months, actually. Merkaba is quite the teacher. I'd be able to use his lessons more effectively if I had more practice time.. the only time I can really belt it is when no one else is home, which is almost never.

Shadius
03-08-2006, 08:32 PM
Song is sent to both who requested it.

You're a star, man! Brilliant.

And thanks Toaster, for offering.

Shadows
03-08-2006, 09:40 PM
I've come to the conclusion that Opeth is a really good band.

By the Pain I See in Others ftw

^Dream~Theater^
03-08-2006, 09:41 PM
Just got back from the show. Devildriver kicked the hell outta DT and possibly Opeth, no wonder they played after them, absolutely brutal and they were filming for the live DVD so people were going insane. Not one person had any respect for the security gaurds, I guess one guy pissed them off so much they beat him down and tossed him in a puddle outside, pretty rank. Opeth was good, my neck hurt so much it was kinda hard to enjoy them, they played:
Ghost Of Perdition
White Cluster
The Amen Corner
Baying Of The Hounds
Closure
Under The Weeping Moon
The Grand Conjuration(Still awful)
The Drapery Falls
Demon Of The Fall

The drumming was more than excellent, They definately found a very good replacement for Lopez on this tour. Imo DevilDriver stole the show though, they had the most raw energy and kept everything going at all times, Dez has very good stage presence. At one point Dez looked at the security gaurds that were standing up on the railing catching the crowd surfers getting in the way, and Dez looks at them and says "You mind getting the F uck outta the way so I can interact with the fans, It's a free country boys, They sure didnt seem to like that anyway. All in all it was a good night, except for all the 13/14 year olds who thought they were so hardcore there.

Flynn
03-08-2006, 10:02 PM
Imo DevilDriver stole the show though, they had the most raw energy and kept everything going at all times, Dez has very good stage presence. At one point Dez looked at the security gaurds that were standing up on the railing catching the crowd surfers getting in the way, and Dez looks at them and says "You mind getting the F uck outta the way so I can interact with the fans, It's a free country boys, They sure didnt seem to like that anyway. All in all it was a good night, except for all the 13/14 year olds who thought they were so hardcore there.

I told you man, they kick major *** live. Dez is cool as hell. I wouldn't mind seeing them for a 3rd time.

Demon Of The Fall huh, you lucky ......

guitrguy
03-08-2006, 10:12 PM
I can't wait until the 19th its going to rock so ****ing hard

Det_Nosnip
03-08-2006, 10:20 PM
I can pull of Dark Tranquillity style vocals as well as the less intense growls (The Moor and stuff) decently. My clean voice isn't anything to write home about though.

Wow, nice. Stanne has a really unique growling style, especially on the later albums.

Killtacular
03-08-2006, 10:25 PM
What's the deal with Lopez, nowadays?

Is he still dealing with that cocai.... blood disease?

^Dream~Theater^
03-08-2006, 10:26 PM
I told you man, they kick major *** live. Dez is cool as hell. I wouldn't mind seeing them for a 3rd time.

Demon Of The Fall huh, you lucky ......
ya I seen DD last year at Sotu but they had a smaller set and it was in a bigger stadium and last night we were in a nightclub called the Odeon and it wasnt the nicest place ive ever seen for a show, nice high balcony where you could watch and drink/relax, and another "middle floor" where you could stand n watch or the pit on the lower level of stairs down and it was made very nice, couldnt of asked for anything better. I was 3 people behind the gaurdrail on the left so i was like 4 feet away from the guitarists all the time, man I watched the bald guitar from Dd and he just hammerred out the whole time, he got real into it, I love when bands get right into it like the fans. I was suprised at how talented their drummer is, they had a delay before the set started and they couldnt get all the drums to sound right so, took them like 20 minutes to get them all sounding nice, but he was busting out some nice beats on em while he was waiting. I cant wait for another Devildriver show, I will definately be right in there. As for Opeth again, Everytime the band would stop in between songs, everyone was screaming Demon of the fall, everytime. And then they said last song, drapery falls, then they left for a bit and came back and said i guess we will play another song for you, and he just used this insane scream and said Demon, waited a few seconds and said of the fall. I dunno, i got the craziest adrenaline rush ever when he said that. Was anyone else in Saskatoon that night?

Moses
03-08-2006, 11:08 PM
I don't like Devildriver's music but they definately have an awesome live show. However, Opeth were the stars at the show I saw. They just molded the audience.

Slapping Penguin
03-09-2006, 12:37 AM
Yeah the band sounds really great but the vocals kinda ruins stuff a little for me. Maybe I'll get used to it over time.

At first you will hate it, then you will love them. Opeth got me into harsh vocals.

Shadows
03-09-2006, 01:34 PM
I'm going to attempt to get a friend into harsh vocals with Opeth. He developed a liking for progressive when he realized he worships Dream Theater, so I'm going to ease him into growling/screaming with some sweet, sweet Opeth.

The question is what albums to get him.

Stormrider
03-09-2006, 01:45 PM
Ben, I read on the last page that you now had every Opeth album...but didn't like just a few days ago only have 2 ?

Meh, if you got them all fast, cool.

Shadows
03-09-2006, 01:47 PM
I've bought two of them and have the rest downloaded. I'll be buying the rest as soon as I have money though, I'd rather support the band than strictly pirate.

Shadius
03-09-2006, 01:54 PM
I actually adore Michael's growls now, and they used to give me a headache. it's brilliant.

Anyway, I've been listening to a lot of My Arms, Your Hearse lately and I'm really starting to love this album. The atmosphere is brilliant, and the riffs are damn good, it has a lot of energy in it when you get used to it. I think the reason I didn't used to like it as much was because the clean parts arn't quite as catchy/good or as frequent as in Still Life, yet after listening to this album a few times, it has some amazing parts, and is pretty consistant too.

Does anyone else think that Opeth's older albums have more atmosphere somehow?

Actually, what I mean is, Deliverance dosn't really have much atmosphere compared to all the releases before it. I really love the overall feel of the albums from MAYH-Blackwater Park, even Ghost Reveries has a creepy atmosphere. Deliverance though... I don't know, it just seems a lot more straightforward and like a collection of songs rather than an album - which is odd considering Opeth's back catalogue.

Stormrider
03-09-2006, 01:58 PM
I've bought two of them and have the rest downloaded. I'll be buying the rest as soon as I have money though, I'd rather support the band than strictly pirate.

Ah ok, thats cool.

I do not own any downloaded albums :) Don't plan on doing that either.

Shadows
03-09-2006, 02:14 PM
I actually adore Michael's growls now, and they used to give me a headache. it's brilliant.

Anyway, I've been listening to a lot of My Arms, Your Hearse lately and I'm really starting to love this album. The atmosphere is brilliant, and the riffs are damn good, it has a lot of energy in it when you get used to it. I think the reason I didn't used to like it as much was because the clean parts arn't quite as catchy/good or as frequent as in Still Life, yet after listening to this album a few times, it has some amazing parts, and is pretty consistant too.

Does anyone else think that Opeth's older albums have more atmosphere somehow?

Actually, what I mean is, Deliverance dosn't really have much atmosphere compared to all the releases before it. I really love the overall feel of the albums from MAYH-Blackwater Park, even Ghost Reveries has a creepy atmosphere. Deliverance though... I don't know, it just seems a lot more straightforward and like a collection of songs rather than an album - which is odd considering Opeth's back catalogue.
I agree with all of that! Mikael is probably my favorite metal vocalist. He can sing, scream, and growl better than anyone I've ever heard in the genre.

Lately I've really been into My Arms, Your Hearse as well with a little Blackwater Park and Deliverance on the side. I noticed that they really progressed on that album. There was more clean singing, more clean guitar parts, and the growling was taken up a few notches. The songs were unusually short, but I could listen to When, April Ethereal, and Demon of the Fall over and over.

I think all of their albums have amazing atmosphere, but older stuff differently than the new. While listening to Orchid I heard a kind of amazing simplicity about it. The music was not as dynamic as it is now in many ways, but it was more progressive. The acoustic sections were very memorable and had a kind of folkish/dreamlike atmosphere that's hard to put into words.

The music now is almost frightening. Per's keyboards on Ghost Reveries sound very creepy and really reflect the occult themes of the album. when I first heard the album I thought it fit nicely with the rest of their work, but listening to it closely I can tell that it's really very different for them.

I think Deliverance has atmosphere, but not at all like the other ones. Wreath and Deliverance both have a very menacing tone about them, as well as Mikael's voice (like the growling in By the Pain I See in Others). Damnation and Deliverance were both much darker than their other albums.

Holy hell, I could write an essay on this band.

JamJar
03-09-2006, 02:15 PM
Ah ok, thats cool.

I do not own any downloaded albums :) Don't plan on doing that either.

I have too many. :( I try and buy the CDs that I can but otherwise (They are horribly overpriced) I download for about £1 per album which is cool. About 65% of my collection is actual CDs.

Shadows
03-09-2006, 05:08 PM
I need info on Damnation/Deliverance. The two were written together as a double album weren't they? I thought I remembered reading background info on th making of them, but I can't find it.

Crysiss
03-09-2006, 05:11 PM
Well, if your willing to buy lamentations, theres a documentary on the making of the albums. I was very intrigued when i watched, hell I still pop it into my dvd player once a month or so.

Shadows
03-09-2006, 05:20 PM
I plan on buying it sooner or later, but I was hoping to do some writing about it, and I'm trying to make it interesting. :(

Reading through Chapter X of Opeth's bio, Mikael seems pretty pissed off about being called a sellout by fans after signing to Roadrunner. Man, I've never heard of such an insulted musician. I can't say I blame him though.

Cardboard Headgear
03-09-2006, 05:25 PM
Since people are talking about vocals n such, here's a clip of some of mine from my band Successor. Mixing's being finished today hopefully, so there'll be some full songs for me to shove down everyone's throat soon.

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2EO0OY0RR72U10JRT5D1IGEQWY

Darkness
03-09-2006, 05:28 PM
Yeah, so Opeth was incredible last night. Mikael was a little sick, and at first his clean vocals sounded a bit off, but then he really picked it up, and it was incredible...

I was crushed the whole time between moshers and people just pushing. Normally, I loath being pushed around, but this time, I actually liked having my ribs get crushed. It was awesome, the setlist was the same as the rest, and it was a lot better then I thought it was going to be. My bassist took this giant 7x6 bed sheet and painted the Opeth O on it, and it looked awesome. So we managed to get it in (after a little stint with a security guard) and we got someone (who wasn't a minor) to go up onto the balcony and then hang it off facing the band. Mikael saw it, and was something like "Oh! thats very nice! You know, thats not the Swedish flag..." and then went on to talk about how most Swede's don't care about patriotism at all. It was pretty good. There was some other funny stuff, but I don't feel like getting into it.

Dark Tranquil also rocked my *** off, they all kept reaching out the crowd and stuff, and I touched there hands a couple times. :cool: We just went and played arcades during Devil Driver... They had big pits, but I wasn't interested in that at all.

I also bought a Still Life shirt, which is awesome. And today, at the mall, I went to the CD store I get everything from. And they had Still Life in stock... they never have anything pre BWP! So I bought it.. for 16 bucks! They also had Orchid, for 26 bucks, but I had it already anyway...

TojesDolan
03-09-2006, 06:43 PM
Good times. The few times I've seen Orchid it's been the cheapest album actually. :confused: Besides, I've never seen My arms your hearse in stock.

Darkness
03-09-2006, 06:45 PM
The only bought CD I do not have is Morningrise, now... I'll get it soon enough.

Stormrider
03-09-2006, 06:50 PM
Tojes, how much was Orchid when you saw it ?

Thats pretty cool, Dunkelheit. I want a Still Life shirt.

TojesDolan
03-09-2006, 06:50 PM
Yep, I need to buy some albums. And big headphones for college, although some kids at my school who are also musicians and I are going to the same university, so we may share music and all that jazz. Yeah. School-

I need info on Damnation/Deliverance. The two were written together as a double album weren't they? I thought I remembered reading background info on th making of them, but I can't find it.

Yes. Well, no. As they were recording, they had a lot of heavy parts, and a lot of acoustic parts that didn't really fit the rest of the stuff, so someone (that's not mentioned, I think) came up with the idea of making 2 albums, a mellow one and a heavy, but not precisely a "double album". Just two different albums.

Tojes, how much was Orchid when you saw it ?

Thats pretty cool, Dunkelheit. I want a Still Life shirt.

It was 20-21 dollars, more or less. The rest were like $24-$26.

Darkness
03-09-2006, 06:52 PM
^Yeah, but Mikael had wanted to do that idea since the 90s, it was only then that they had the support they needed to actually do the 2 albums.

Stormrider
03-09-2006, 06:55 PM
It was 20-21 dollars, more or less. The rest were like $24-$26.

Ah lucky. I would have gotten the album a long time ago if it was that price. It;s 30.99 here :-/

So I guess I'll be ordering it.

Flynn
03-09-2006, 07:10 PM
Yeah, so Opeth was incredible last night. Mikael was a little sick, and at first his clean vocals sounded a bit off, but then he really picked it up, and it was incredible...

I was crushed the whole time between moshers and people just pushing. Normally, I loath being pushed around, but this time, I actually liked having my ribs get crushed. It was awesome, the setlist was the same as the rest, and it was a lot better then I thought it was going to be. My bassist took this giant 7x6 bed sheet and painted the Opeth O on it, and it looked awesome. So we managed to get it in (after a little stint with a security guard) and we got someone (who wasn't a minor) to go up onto the balcony and then hang it off facing the band. Mikael saw it, and was something like "Oh! thats very nice! You know, thats not the Swedish flag..." and then went on to talk about how most Swede's don't care about patriotism at all. It was pretty good. There was some other funny stuff, but I don't feel like getting into it.

Dark Tranquil also rocked my *** off, they all kept reaching out the crowd and stuff, and I touched there hands a couple times. :cool: We just went and played arcades during Devil Driver... They had big pits, but I wasn't interested in that at all.

I also bought a Still Life shirt, which is awesome. And today, at the mall, I went to the CD store I get everything from. And they had Still Life in stock... they never have anything pre BWP! So I bought it.. for 16 bucks! They also had Orchid, for 26 bucks, but I had it already anyway...


That's awesome, too bad you missed DevilDriver though. So what song did Opeth play last?

Darkness
03-09-2006, 07:15 PM
I watched a bit of DevilDriver... just wasn't interested. Opeth encored with Deliverance. Which Mikael made us cheer for like 5 min before he finally said "fine, we'll play.. but we don't want to bore you"

Deth
03-09-2006, 07:28 PM
I wish they had Still Life shirts when I went to my show. I have a nice GR one with the Devil being summoned though.

Shattered_Future
03-09-2006, 07:40 PM
I bought a Still Live shirt. It's unbelievably sexy. :cool:

Shadows
03-09-2006, 07:41 PM
I can't believe I never liked Deliverance before. Every single song on this album is amazing. It does have some of their heaviest moments, but it has much more than that.

Deth
03-09-2006, 07:44 PM
Yeah, it's a sweet album. A Fair Judgement is one of my favorite Opeth songs.

NP: Deliverance \m/

Shattered_Future
03-09-2006, 07:45 PM
Deliverance still bores me a bit, though the last 3 minutes or so of it were one of the coolest concert experiences ever. Almost nonstop headbanging.

Master's Apprentices, though, is teh secks.

Shadows
03-09-2006, 07:46 PM
A Fair Judgement, For Absent Friends, and Master's Apprentices are probably my favorites. Although Wreath, Deliverance, and By the Pain I See in Others have are nothing to ignore. I must buy this album.

eighty d
03-09-2006, 07:49 PM
Deliverance is an amazing album and I don't know why Opeth fans don't rate it higher. The title song itself has some of the most incredible parts of any Opeth songs, so many changes in mood. And that clean vocal part "the piercing sounds you make..."

Stormrider
03-09-2006, 07:50 PM
I wasn't very into A Fair Judgement the last time I listened to it...which was a while ago. I'de have to listen to it again.

Darkness
03-09-2006, 08:46 PM
Dilverance is indeed one of my favorite Opeth albums. I also think every song is awesome.

TojesDolan
03-09-2006, 09:00 PM
^Yeah, but Mikael had wanted to do that idea since the 90s, it was only then that they had the support they needed to actually do the 2 albums.
Ah yes. Well he needed support to make an album that resembled to his 60's-70's influences. I'd really like to know what are the exact names. I've heard Camel for "Ending credits"... but I can't find the song he based it on... -___-

Flynn
03-09-2006, 09:05 PM
Dilverance is indeed one of my favorite Opeth albums. I also think every song is awesome.

Oh yeah man, I love Deliverance. I can still remember a long time ago when quite a few people in this thread trashed it, but I always stuck up for it. It's Opeth's 2nd heaviest album IMO.

Shadows
03-09-2006, 09:06 PM
What's their first?

Darkness
03-09-2006, 09:07 PM
The Hearse, probably. I still think Deliverance may be a bit heavier though...

TojesDolan
03-09-2006, 09:08 PM
Nope, Still Life for the win.

Flynn
03-09-2006, 09:08 PM
What's their first?


My Arms, Your Hearse I think.

Darkness
03-09-2006, 09:10 PM
Nope, Still Life for the win.
For heaviest? Are you mad?!

Shadows
03-09-2006, 09:10 PM
You might be right. The way When comes crashing in after that clean intro - very brutal. I'd say Deliverance is close though.

TojesDolan
03-09-2006, 09:14 PM
Despite it has some of the softest by Opeth (Benighted and Face of Melinda, c'mon) It also has way more heavy stuff.

And My arms, your hearse.... eh it has it's moments, but I don't know.

I still have to make some serious considerations.

For real. Oh wait, Deliverance has very, very counted acoustic moments. Even less than MAYH.

Flynn
03-09-2006, 09:14 PM
You might be right. The way When comes crashing in after that clean intro - very brutal. I'd say Deliverance is close though.



Yeah they are real close. Although, Deliverance is lacking in the area of the fierce double kick that MAYH has, and all out screaming, the riffs and growls on Deliverance make up for it. I think MAYH has some of the most twisted and evil riffs I've ever heard. Superb guitar work by Akerfeldt, including bass.

Darkness
03-09-2006, 09:16 PM
I think the druming is pretty fierce on Deliverance, I'm sure you all know Wreath. And that first Chorus to By the Pain I see In Others is crazy heavy.

Flynn
03-09-2006, 09:22 PM
Definitely, Wreath has some extremely heavy moments in it, and expecially By The Pain I See In Others. When comparing MAYH and Deliverance, I really do think MAYH is heavier, not by far though...as once I've stated Deliverance as Opeth's heaviest album in my own words. Dealing with the Hearse, every song except Prologue, Madrigal, Credence, and Epilogue have heavy attributes, especially Karma. That song is so lethal, love how it ends. That's one of Opeth's heaviest moments, IMO.

Crysiss
03-09-2006, 09:23 PM
Deliverance to me is more straight up metal than anything else by opeth. Using E as a pedal tone in the intro, more power chords in this song than most, Tight rhythms and sweet solos.
The first song i liked by opeth

Flynn
03-09-2006, 09:26 PM
Deliverance to me is more straight up metal than anything else by opeth. Using E as a pedal tone in the intro, more power chords in this song than most, Tight rhythms and sweet solos.
The first song i liked by opeth


I absolutely love Deliverance. It's a great song to listen to every day, and not get sick of. It's a perfect title track, definitely my favorite title track of all bands/songs.

Shadows
03-09-2006, 09:30 PM
Wreath has some pretty badass heavy metal shredding though, I almost starting drooling when I heard it.

Crysiss
03-09-2006, 09:32 PM
I was recently wondering what Mikaels most wanker moments was. Possibly the solo in the grand conjuration.

Yea deliverance is awesome, i can listen to the song constantly, that goes for the whole album too.
I just started getting sick of listening to morningrise recently. But my favorite moment of morningrise is in Nectar, when it goes acoustic. I absolutely love that part.

Darkness
03-09-2006, 09:34 PM
I actually like TGC's solo.

Shadows
03-09-2006, 09:40 PM
New avatar. :cool:

NP: By the Pain I See in Others

*drools*

Darkness
03-09-2006, 09:40 PM
New avatar. :cool:

NP: By the Pain I See in Others

*drools*
Very cool.


N.P - My brand new copy of Still Life. :cool:

Flynn
03-09-2006, 09:51 PM
New avatar. :cool:

NP: By the Pain I See in Others

*drools*


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Det_Nosnip
03-09-2006, 09:51 PM
What's the deal with Lopez, nowadays?

Is he still dealing with that cocai.... blood disease?

It's a hereditary blood disease common throughout 3rd world countries. The coccaine rumors were just that: rumors.

Crysiss
03-09-2006, 09:53 PM
It's a hereditary blood disease common throughout 3rd world countries. The coccaine rumors were just that: rumors.

I dont know exactly where Lopez is from...

:upset:

Cardboard Headgear
03-09-2006, 09:57 PM
Since people are talking about vocals n such, here's a clip of some of mine from my band Successor. Mixing's being finished today hopefully, so there'll be some full songs for me to shove down everyone's throat soon.

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2EO0OY0RR72U10JRT5D1IGEQWY
:wave:

Shadows
03-09-2006, 10:01 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
:(?

Crysiss
03-09-2006, 10:57 PM
We should all go to drawball.com And draw the opeth logo, Im going to start drawing by the big yellow rubber ducky

guitrguy
03-09-2006, 11:02 PM
I dont know exactly where Lopez is from...

:upset:
I believe he's from Paragauy

=-fukifiknow-=
03-10-2006, 12:46 AM
on Lamentations, during the song closure, when mikael sings "redemtion for my pathos" it sounds EXACTLY like he's saying "redemption for my penis"
check that **** out.
sorry i couldnt contribute with a more intellectual post.

Crysiss
03-10-2006, 01:08 AM
Lol, well i might have to check that out later on tonight

Stoo
03-10-2006, 08:52 AM
When I first got Lamentations I was reading the setlist and I thought to myself, "Why are the ending credits have way through the set? :confused:"

:p

Toaster
03-10-2006, 04:37 PM
Well, today I bought Still Life.. twice. My friend had recently gone to a music store where he saw several copies of Still Life, and today he picked two up, one for him and one for me. The sticker on the CD said 25$, so I paid him. When I get home, it turns out my brother actually went to the same music store on the same day, and bought me Still Life. I was going to return it, but he opened it before I got my hands on it.

Meh. 50$ is a small price to pay for one of my all-time favourite albums.

sonicst0rm
03-10-2006, 05:00 PM
Well, today I bought Still Life.. twice. My friend had recently gone to a music store where he saw several copies of Still Life, and today he picked two up, one for him and one for me. The sticker on the CD said 25$, so I paid him. When I get home, it turns out my brother actually went to the same music store on the same day, and bought me Still Life. I was going to return it, but he opened it before I got my hands on it.

Meh. 50$ is a small price to pay for one of my all-time favourite albums.

owned!!! :amaze:

i wanna see opeth live... none of my friends 'understand' it so no one would go :(. fav albums are damnation and blackwater

I'm Charming
03-10-2006, 05:33 PM
Well, today I bought Still Life.. twice. My friend had recently gone to a music store where he saw several copies of Still Life, and today he picked two up, one for him and one for me. The sticker on the CD said 25$, so I paid him. When I get home, it turns out my brother actually went to the same music store on the same day, and bought me Still Life. I was going to return it, but he opened it before I got my hands on it.

Meh. 50$ is a small price to pay for one of my all-time favourite albums.

A good lesson for us all in fanboyism.

"Autograph" one of them. Put it on ebay, then get be rich. :p

Shattered_Future
03-10-2006, 05:34 PM
Oh man, I really, ridiculously love my Still Life shirt. Even if somebody says the band members on the back look like Hanson. :lol:

I'm Charming
03-10-2006, 05:36 PM
Oh man, I really, ridiculously love my Still Life shirt. Even if somebody says the band members on the back look like Hanson. :lol:

Who would say that?

oh wait.. An idiot. :smash:

Darkness
03-10-2006, 05:37 PM
Oh man, I really, ridiculously love my Still Life shirt. Even if somebody says the band members on the back look like Hanson. :lol:
I also love my Still Life shirt. :D It really does look awesome, and the whole Still Life Still Death thing on the back is sweet. :thumb:

Cardboard Headgear
03-10-2006, 05:38 PM
Well since you guys completely ignored my other posts anyways, go here and listen to the band I sing/play guitar for, cause we gots new recordings up.

http://www.myspace.com/successor

yay for whoring!

Shattered_Future
03-10-2006, 05:39 PM
Boo for myspace. Get another music link, and I'll listen...

I just love the cover art to that album so much.

Flynn
03-10-2006, 06:00 PM
:(?


Goodbye, 100x100 Sterling Black Icon :mad:

bucket
03-10-2006, 06:43 PM
Hey Cardboard, that small clip was quite good. What instrument are you?

/listens to myspace

Darkness
03-10-2006, 07:56 PM
He said he sings and plays guitar.

Killtacular
03-10-2006, 11:29 PM
Oh man, I really, ridiculously love my Still Life shirt. Even if somebody says the band members on the back look like Hanson. :lol:
Is that shirt as orange as it looks in the pictures?

Tyr
03-11-2006, 02:01 PM
I believe he's from Paragauy
He's actually from Uruguay.

Shattered_Future
03-11-2006, 04:08 PM
Is that shirt as orange as it looks in the pictures?

It's pretty damn orange...I haven't seen any pictures of it though.

guitrguy
03-11-2006, 04:45 PM
He's actually from Uruguay.
I was close, I knew it was one of those guay countries.

Tyr
03-11-2006, 05:09 PM
I know, it's pretty hard to keep those countries apart.

King B
03-11-2006, 06:00 PM
So I went to see opeth last night and it was incredible. The support was great and opeth's set was awesome.

However, the best part was after the show. We were standing by the busses and my friend starts talking to this one roadie type guy. Well, after a while she asks him if the band would be interested in smoking some weed. I was just thinking, "yeah, good luck with that."

But he says yes and he takes her inside. So me and my other friend are standing outside wondering if we're ever going to see her again, and the guy comes back out and invites us inside because we have the weed. He brought us to the band's dressing room and I just about **** my pants cause I immediatly see Mikael and Peter.

Then we go over to this couch and I sat right next to Mendez! We had this nice circle with me and my friend, Mendez, that one roadie guy, and some other guy. So we all start talking about music, and UFOs, and how good the weed is, and eventually I realize it's an hour later and we have smoked eight bowls. Then before everyone has to leave the venue, Mendez buys more weed from my friend.

Overall, I left feeling extremely lucky, and extremely high.

Thor
03-11-2006, 08:15 PM
So I went to see opeth last night and it was incredible. The support was great and opeth's set was awesome.

However, the best part was after the show. We were standing by the busses and my friend starts talking to this one roadie type guy. Well, after a while she asks him if the band would be interested in smoking some weed. I was just thinking, "yeah, good luck with that."

But he says yes and he takes her inside. So me and my other friend are standing outside wondering if we're ever going to see her again, and the guy comes back out and invites us inside because we have the weed. He brought us to the band's dressing room and I just about **** my pants cause I immediatly see Mikael and Peter.

Then we go over to this couch and I sat right next to Mendez! We had this nice circle with me and my friend, Mendez, that one roadie guy, and some other guy. So we all start talking about music, and UFOs, and how good the weed is, and eventually I realize it's an hour later and we have smoked eight bowls. Then before everyone has to leave the venue, Mendez buys more weed from my friend.

Overall, I left feeling extremely lucky, and extremely high.
Well I guess you can't complain with that. :)

Shattered_Future
03-11-2006, 09:11 PM
Hahahaha, that's great. Selling weed to a band...:thumb:

Deth
03-11-2006, 09:12 PM
That's classic right there.

Moses
03-11-2006, 09:18 PM
So I went to see opeth last night and it was incredible. The support was great and opeth's set was awesome.

However, the best part was after the show. We were standing by the busses and my friend starts talking to this one roadie type guy. Well, after a while she asks him if the band would be interested in smoking some weed. I was just thinking, "yeah, good luck with that."

But he says yes and he takes her inside. So me and my other friend are standing outside wondering if we're ever going to see her again, and the guy comes back out and invites us inside because we have the weed. He brought us to the band's dressing room and I just about **** my pants cause I immediatly see Mikael and Peter.

Then we go over to this couch and I sat right next to Mendez! We had this nice circle with me and my friend, Mendez, that one roadie guy, and some other guy. So we all start talking about music, and UFOs, and how good the weed is, and eventually I realize it's an hour later and we have smoked eight bowls. Then before everyone has to leave the venue, Mendez buys more weed from my friend.

Overall, I left feeling extremely lucky, and extremely high.
Heh, should've asked to keep in touch or somthing. That's awesome though. A real classic.

King B
03-11-2006, 09:35 PM
Heh, should've asked to keep in touch or somthing. That's awesome though. A real classic.

Yeah, I should've, but I wasn't exactly thinking clearly...

Slapping Penguin
03-12-2006, 03:01 AM
You brain will go dumb bum from grass.

Cardboard Headgear
03-12-2006, 03:12 AM
Oh man, please lets not start a drug discussion.

Jude
03-12-2006, 04:09 AM
It's band related :\

But yeah, smoking weed with members of Opeth has got to rule. (I don't even get high)

Thor
03-12-2006, 07:48 AM
Oh man, please lets not start a drug discussion.
I second that. This little conversation that we've been having should end.

To start a new topic: Deliverance or Damnation?

I'm more of a Damnation person myself.

penelope weird hands
03-12-2006, 08:00 AM
^ Ultimately, it depends on mood.
Although, I would rather listen to Deliverance.
.. Most of the time.

Oh, and I just put a layby payment on what is soon to be my first Opeth shirt. A nice, Ghost Reveries orientated one. :thumb:
Concert on April(Ethereal LAWLERS HOCH HECH!) 20th, for me.

*dances around like gollum finding a rabbit*

Thor
03-12-2006, 08:28 AM
^ Ultimately, it depends on mood.
Although, I would rather listen to Deliverance.
.. Most of the time.

Oh, and I just put a layby payment on what is soon to be my first Opeth shirt. A nice, Ghost Reveries orientated one. :thumb:
Concert on April(Ethereal LAWLERS HOCH HECH!) 20th, for me.

*dances around like gollum finding a rabbit*
I have that Ghost Reveries shirt. It's a pretty sweet one.
and great Gollum description. :thumb:

NP - Opeth - Bleak
Yes!!! I just got to the long clean section!

penelope weird hands
03-12-2006, 09:10 AM
^ Nice, man.
Is yours the one with the candles on the front, or the one with the undercover of the CD(without track titles) on the back?
I'm getting the latter.
Forgot whats on the front of mine, I'm too inebriated to remember. ;}

And yes, Bleak freaking owns (as demonstrated above)! :P

JamJar
03-12-2006, 10:15 AM
I'm more of a Damnation person myself.

Both are great but I love the mellow feel of Damnation. Closure ftw.

Jude
03-12-2006, 10:20 AM
I like Damnation more. Deliverance is one of my less-liked Opeth albums.

Flynn
03-12-2006, 11:16 AM
I like Damnation more. Deliverance is one of my less-liked Opeth albums.


I like them both about the same. It all depends on what mood I'm in depending on which of the two I listen to.

Shadius
03-12-2006, 11:43 AM
I like Damnation more. Deliverance is one of my less-liked Opeth albums.

I agree. Though Deliverance still has good songs on it.

Jude
03-12-2006, 12:31 PM
I agree. Though Deliverance still has good songs on it.
Oh yeah definitely. But Deliverance IMO is the only song on there that's really great all the way through, the others all suffer from weak spots in various amounts. Damnation is almost all great except Weakness I don't like too much.

Shadows
03-12-2006, 12:59 PM
Damnation is one of my top Opeth albums but I just recently discovered my love for Deliverance. Every song on both of those albums are top-notch. Currently my least favorite Opeth is Still Life despite the presence of several of their most amazing songs ever.

Flynn
03-12-2006, 01:36 PM
Oh yeah definitely. But Deliverance IMO is the only song on there that's really great all the way through, the others all suffer from weak spots in various amounts. Damnation is almost all great except Weakness I don't like too much.


What about The Master's Apprentices? I think that's the best song on the album.

ok lateralus
03-12-2006, 02:43 PM
I kind of like D1 better, but it depends on mood

Flynn
03-12-2006, 03:11 PM
Come on, where are all the ''Hearse'' fans????

Stormrider
03-12-2006, 03:20 PM
What about The Master's Apprentices? I think that's the best song on the album.

First Opeth song I heard :)

I saw Lamentations today for 19.99 $ Which is an extrmemly good price. Is it this cheap where you guys found it too ?

NP The Moor

guitrguy
03-12-2006, 03:30 PM
I can't wait, one week from today about this time I'll be on my way to New Orleans to see Opeth.

Shadows
03-12-2006, 03:36 PM
Come on, where are all the ''Hearse'' fans????
MAYH fans for the win.

NP: Karma :cool:

Stormrider
03-12-2006, 03:38 PM
I don't have MAYH and I think I've heard one song off of it :upset:

/Checks

guitrguy
03-12-2006, 03:39 PM
MAYH was the first Opeth Album I bought.

^Dream~Theater^
03-12-2006, 03:40 PM
I dont know what the big hype over MAYH is...maybe I need to listen to it more, I really can't stand the Amen Corner though.

Shadows
03-12-2006, 03:41 PM
Y'all are fools, MAYH is probably my favorite Opeth album. April Ethereal, When, Demon of the Fall, and Karma are beastly songs. The flurry of screaming at the end of Karma is ****ing vicious.

JamJar
03-12-2006, 04:29 PM
MAYH is the earliest 'Peth album that I really appreciate. The intro to Karma is amazing.

Shadows
03-12-2006, 04:43 PM
Woah woah woah, where's the love for Orchid and Morningrise?

Jude
03-12-2006, 04:58 PM
What about The Master's Apprentices? I think that's the best song on the album.
Other than the acoustic part in the middle, that song doesn't do much for me.

MAYH also isn't that great to me.

And I have lots of love for Morningrise, but not Orchid so much.

azbassman
03-12-2006, 04:59 PM
MAYH was the first Opeth Album I bought.
The first album i bought was Blackwater Park. The only one i dont have now is Ghost Reveries

Tyr
03-12-2006, 05:03 PM
I love MAYH, it's definitely one of my favourite Opeth albums.

Flynn
03-12-2006, 05:04 PM
Other than the acoustic part in the middle, that song doesn't do much for me.

MAYH also isn't that great to me.

And I have lots of love for Morningrise, but not Orchid so much.


I love the lyrics and how the music flows with them. The Master's Apprentices is really one of their best songs.


MAYH is the earliest 'Peth album that I really appreciate. The intro to Karma is amazing.


Karma is my favorite Opeth song, hands down.


I dont know what the big hype over MAYH is...maybe I need to listen to it more, I really can't stand the Amen Corner though.


That song is great, really, I absolutely love it.


Woah woah woah, where's the love for Orchid and Morningrise?


Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa .... Lois, this is not my Batman glass. :lol:

I love them both, previous posts from me will prove it.

UpperDecker
03-12-2006, 05:55 PM
The first album i bought was Blackwater Park. The only one i dont have now is Ghost Reveries

Aside from Ghost Of Perdition, your not missing much. To me this album really doesn't sound like Opeth. A couple parts do but i think they were just trying something a little too different.

Moses
03-12-2006, 06:03 PM
Aside from Ghost Of Perdition, your not missing much. To me this album really doesn't sound like Opeth. A couple parts do but i think they were just trying something a little too different.
It does sound like Opeth though because it is Opeth. Most of the songs are better live and there are some really cool moments on the album. It really grows on you especially after they play some of the songs live.

Isolation Years is one of my favorite Opeth songs too.

Shadows
03-12-2006, 06:09 PM
GR is at the top of my Opeth list. I love that album immensely. It has a much darker feel to it than past albums, which really reflects the occult theme.

eighty d
03-12-2006, 06:30 PM
Most of the songs are better live

That's true. The Grand Conjuration is a good song on the album, good not great. Live it was unbelievable. The clean sung sections build the tension so perfectly, and then the heavy sections just punish.

Shadius
03-12-2006, 06:39 PM
MAYH is an amazing album, it's my Opeth album of the moment. After playing Ghost Reveries a lot and having that as my fav, then Still Life. Hearse has been the next one to fill the void. Deliverance couldn't quite cut it to the same level.

Damnation was actually the first I was obsessed with. Blackwater Park and Deliverance were both good, but as whole albums they don't satisfy me like the others I mentioned. Nor have Orchid or Morningrise satisfied me as full albums either. Still though, these "lesser" albums have some amazing songs on them.

I think Opeths albums are in about this order for me now:

Still Life
Ghost Reveries
Damnation
My Arms, Your Hearse
Blackwater Park
Deliverance
Morningrise
Orchid

Subject to change, I could yet fall in love with Deliverance or Orchid, or maybe get what the all the fuss is about over Blackwater Park as a title track, that could mess things up a bit.

Whale and Wasp
03-12-2006, 06:47 PM
my order would be....

orchid/deliverance/still life

then

ghost reveries/damnation

then

my arms your hearse/morningrise

then

blackwater park


slashes mean they switch around that level a lot

^Dream~Theater^
03-12-2006, 07:06 PM
Aside from Ghost Of Perdition, your not missing much. To me this album really doesn't sound like Opeth. A couple parts do but i think they were just trying something a little too different.
Reverie/Harlequin Forest blows me right away, Imo that's a very good song.

Shadius
03-12-2006, 07:35 PM
Baying of the Hounds is also a great song, along with Beneath the Mire.

Shadows
03-12-2006, 07:41 PM
Baying of the Hounds, Beneath the Mire, and Reverie/Harlequin Forest are my favorites. The clean singing in Reverie is unbelievably amazing.

Deth
03-12-2006, 08:01 PM
I'm a huge MAYH fan. The Amen Corner took a long time to grow on me, but I love it now.

Ghost Of Perdition and Harlequin Forest are my faves off GR.

Flynn
03-12-2006, 08:07 PM
Ghost Of Perdition and Reverie/Harlequin Forest are the better songs from Ghost Reveries. I enjoy them both.

Jude
03-12-2006, 08:09 PM
I favor Ghost of Perdition and Baying of the Hounds....Beneath the Mire annoys the crap out of me until the very end of it there's one cool part...Atonement is nice but it doesn't do it for me like other soft Opeth songs do...R/HF is OK but I find a lot of the riffs really boring and some of the vocal melodies are just meh, not up to Mikael's standards really...Hours of Wealth is really nice except for the singing part grinds my nerves...TGC is cool but too repetetive...and Isolation Years is really nice, I like it.

Shattered_Future
03-12-2006, 08:12 PM
TGC absolutely slays live though. Probably one of the best songs of the night.

Flynn
03-12-2006, 08:17 PM
It was good live, but that didn't change my opinion about the song. I still don't care for it.

Deth
03-12-2006, 08:20 PM
It was really good live, I have to say. Plus, I'm enjoying it more on the album as well.

Flynn
03-12-2006, 08:21 PM
Of all their songs they played, The Amen Corner was by far the best.

Shadows
03-12-2006, 08:21 PM
You wanna hear something weird? Me and Flynn started listening to Black Rose Immortal at the exact same time. :eek:

Flynn
03-12-2006, 08:24 PM
You wanna hear something weird? Me and Flynn started listening to Black Rose Immortal at the exact same time. :eek:


Yeah, that was pretty crazy...

Shadows
03-12-2006, 08:42 PM
I've come to the conclusion that anyone who doesn't absolutely love Master's Apprentices is a fool.

Shattered_Future
03-12-2006, 08:44 PM
I've come to the conclusion that anyone who doesn't absolutely love Master's Apprentices is a fool.

That be an excellent conclusion. Song is especially fun for scaring Asian girls in school hallways.

Shadius
03-12-2006, 08:59 PM
I think the growling is cool in that song, and the mellow parts are pretty interesting, it's not one of my favourite Opeth songs though, maybe my 3rd fav on that album even. :p

Hey... has anyone got any Opeth videos or streams of them online? I'm at Uni and I can't use most programs to d/l videos and such here but I seem to be able to play streams, and straight up d/ls. Any full concerts would be awesome to watch, or individual songs.

I've watched everything on youtube.com and I thirst for more. I'm watching the live set with Godheads Lament first, with Advent second at the moment. Someone (probably from in here) linked me to it a while back.

Deth
03-12-2006, 09:06 PM
That's the old standby here, and I don't think anyone has found anything similar.

If they have, they're holding out on us.

TojesDolan
03-12-2006, 10:09 PM
There are some in you-tube, let me see what I can do for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G2jlXUkJ84&search=opeth

LIVE VIDEO OF "WHEN", FROM THE ALBUM "MY ARMS; YOUR HEARSE"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsKVKrfyQgs&search=opeth

LIVE VIDEO FOR "THE DRAPERY FALLS" FROM "BLACKWATER PARK"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i9zlACbaog&search=opeth

LIVE VIDEO FOR "FOREST OF OCTOBER" FROM "ORCHID"


EDIT:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=opeth&search_type=search_videos&search=Search

Just check that link. :D

LARGE EDIT:

I still don't get why in Ghost Reveries the division is:

Atonement
Reverie/Harlequin Forest

Yet, Reverie is INSIDE Atonement, but with a silence stretching out the fact that it's not part of Atonement, yet it's part of Harlequin Forest... I'm confused... :(

Flynn
03-12-2006, 10:34 PM
Don't forget to edit: When is cut short, thus making it one of the worst videos ever.

Shadows
03-12-2006, 10:36 PM
Yet, Reverie is INSIDE Atonement, but with a silence stretching out the fact that it's not part of Atonement, yet it's part of Harlequin Forest... I'm confused... :(
I never understood that either. I don't like Atonement, so I never listen to the song, consequently I didn't even know the Reverie section existed. It wasn't until I looked at a GP tab of the entire song several days ago that I heard the intro and said, "woah, what is this first part? Is the file mislabeled?" Then I backed up into the end of Atonement and heard it. I'm glad they did it that way though, I don't like Reverie. It sounds very disturbing and doesn't fit the wonderful mood of Harlequin Forest.

Det_Nosnip
03-13-2006, 12:42 AM
I love it.

BTW Cardboard I checked out your band...cool stuff! Sorry, I somehow missed all of your earlier plugs.

penelope weird hands
03-13-2006, 01:10 AM
Man, Deliverance is awesome.
Wreath is just so brutal!!
Deliverance is kicking my asz as we speak.
The riffage is spectacular and I actually really like the production they ended up with, despite their woes in the studio.

Walk with me, you'll never leave
Wait to see your spirit free
Tell me how your heart's in need
As I drown you in the sea

Mwah.

EDIT: Hahahaha, Demon Of The Fall is number 666 on my Winamp playlist when all of my songs are on there.
\m/ :evil: \m/

Mr. Black
03-13-2006, 12:00 PM
Do All The Opeth albums have Growled Vocals?

Cardboard Headgear
03-13-2006, 01:03 PM
Do All The Opeth albums have Growled Vocals?
Damnation has none, though all their other albums have clean singing mixed in with the growls.

Toaster
03-13-2006, 01:41 PM
I never understood that either. I don't like Atonement, so I never listen to the song, consequently I didn't even know the Reverie section existed. It wasn't until I looked at a GP tab of the entire song several days ago that I heard the intro and said, "woah, what is this first part? Is the file mislabeled?" Then I backed up into the end of Atonement and heard it. I'm glad they did it that way though, I don't like Reverie. It sounds very disturbing and doesn't fit the wonderful mood of Harlequin Forest.

Reverie is part of Harlequin Forest. It's in the negative numbers that come before it- when you put the album into a CD player it says track 5, but it's about a minute and a half in negative numbers. Since mp3 files don't have those negative numbers, you can't see it unless you use a CD player. Incidentally, Reverie is right in the middle of the album, between tracks 4 and 5, which I think is pretty cool.

Aakon_Keetreh
03-13-2006, 04:01 PM
I just got my parents into Opeth :cool:

Whale and Wasp
03-13-2006, 04:12 PM
am i the only one who friggin' loves atonement??

Tyr
03-13-2006, 04:20 PM
I just got my parents into Opeth :cool:
That's really cool :thumb:

Jude
03-13-2006, 06:25 PM
am i the only one who friggin' loves atonement??
Probably not. I think it's not bad song but it just doesn't do it for me like other soft Opeth songs...it doesn't have that same eerie dark vibe as Harvest or TBYF.

Darkness
03-13-2006, 06:29 PM
I think it's darker then Harvest. Thats a really positive song for me... I liked Atonement more the first time I heard the album, but now it kinda wore off on me (like the rest of the album..).

Flynn
03-13-2006, 06:51 PM
I never could get into Atonement, the song lacks something...

Shattered_Future
03-13-2006, 07:23 PM
I'm not sure whether it was Atonement or Hours Of Wealth that I liked, but I know it was one of them...very proggy/atmospheric song.

Flynn
03-13-2006, 07:28 PM
You might be thinking of Hours Of Wealth, I could be wrong though.

Darkness
03-13-2006, 07:54 PM
Yeah, I don't think Atonement is very proggy... Hours Of Wealth is better.

Shadows
03-13-2006, 08:02 PM
Atonement is the only song on the album I don't like.

Shattered_Future
03-13-2006, 08:04 PM
Blimey Ben, you've turned into quite the Opeth fanboy lately...

What I don't understand is why everybody loves GOP so much. Granted, it's a good song, but it's not one of the best on the album IMO...

Darkness
03-13-2006, 08:06 PM
I think it's one of the best. It simply seems to have the best structure, and has good riffing, as well as that amazing clean peice 3 minutes into it...

Shadius
03-13-2006, 08:07 PM
Blimey Ben, you've turned into quite the Opeth fanboy lately...

What I don't understand is why everybody loves GOP so much. Granted, it's a good song, but it's not one of the best on the album IMO...

It is. :p

It pretty much sums up a lot of Opeth's style.

Shadows
03-13-2006, 08:09 PM
Blimey Ben, you've turned into quite the Opeth fanboy lately...

What I don't understand is why everybody loves GOP so much. Granted, it's a good song, but it's not one of the best on the album IMO...
I know! It's cray!

I don't think it's that good. I like it but not near as much as others on the album.

Stormrider
03-13-2006, 08:17 PM
I think it's one of the best. It simply seems to have the best structure, and has good riffing, as well as that amazing clean peice 3 minutes into it...

I absolutely love that part !

I would listen to it, but my freind still has the cd I made with all the Opeth on it..

It was my attempt at trying to get him into them :p

Note: my friend is the drummer in our band. Which is only me and him so far :p

King B
03-13-2006, 08:55 PM
Does anyone know who the touring drummer for opeth is? And what is the status on Lopez?

^Dream~Theater^
03-13-2006, 08:58 PM
Does anyone know who the touring drummer for opeth is? And what is the status on Lopez?
Mendez, and he's insane live, it's like he plays with no emotion. and I have no idea on Lopez

Deth
03-13-2006, 09:00 PM
No, the replacement is Martin Axenrot of Witchery (I think) and Bloodbath. He's a good fill in.

Mendez is the bassist.

King B
03-13-2006, 09:03 PM
No, the replacement is Martin Axenrot of Witchery (I think) and Bloodbath. He's a good fill in.

Mendez is the bassist.

Ah yes, they were calling him ax. He's freakin great.

^Dream~Theater^
03-13-2006, 09:08 PM
No, the replacement is Martin Axenrot of Witchery (I think) and Bloodbath. He's a good fill in.

Mendez is the bassist.
Forgive my ignorance:(

Jude
03-13-2006, 09:09 PM
What I don't understand is why everybody loves GOP so much. Granted, it's a good song, but it's not one of the best on the album IMO...
It just seems to have something the rest of the album lacks, I dunno. It's a great track, though still not on the top of my Opeth list by any stretch.

One thing I have to say about GR, the lyrics sure took a dive from the quality of the previous albums. Perhaps it's because Mike was writing about things less personal to him, although MAYH and SL were both like that too...but who knows. All I know is the lyrics just don't have the same feel of dark, gothic poetry as the other stuff, and some of them are downright bad (see: Harlequin Forest)

=-fukifiknow-=
03-13-2006, 11:02 PM
the other day me and a buddy went into one of our local music stores, i was going to buy "morningrise" i have had all the songs for a long time, but out of respect to the band i figured i had to buy the album.
anyway as i picked it up some guy goes dude OPETH IS AMAZING, **** yes i replied, then across the room some guy goes ORCHID BABY. five opeth fans in one place coincidently?
i felt like i was in a movie (none of them worked at the store)

Darkness
03-13-2006, 11:09 PM
^That's cool... I've never seen more then 3 real Opeth fans together (including me), save the concerts I've been to.

guitrguy
03-13-2006, 11:50 PM
Opeth is increasing in popularity. There is a few people down here (Mississippi of all places) I know of that likes Opeth without me or my brother getting them into Opeth.

MrJack
03-14-2006, 12:22 AM
I'll listen to GOP before any other song just because it does a good job of setting the tone for anything else. Its the one song that I wish didn't have any slow parts. It would have been nice to keep that pace the whole time. Sadly, that and Beneath the mire are the only GR songs im listning to constantly. Oh and BOTH.

penelope weird hands
03-14-2006, 01:01 AM
Opeth is increasing in popularity. There is a few people down here (Mississippi of all places) I know of that likes Opeth without me or my brother getting them into Opeth.

I agree, although I can't justify that on a large scale.

I ran into a guy in JBHiFi's in Perth the other week, and he had a Ghost Reveries shirt on so I talked to him a bit about the upcoming performance in April.
Turns out he's seen them about a dozen times, he's traveled the world and followed them around, basically.
Lucky guy! *envy*
Plus, I'm getting all my mates to come to that concert too, they don't really listen to Opeth all that much, if at all, but I'm sure they'll change their views and become fans.

Power to the 'Pethians.
:thumb:

Moses
03-14-2006, 01:02 AM
I'll listen to GOP before any other song just because it does a good job of setting the tone for anything else. Its the one song that I wish didn't have any slow parts. It would have been nice to keep that pace the whole time. Sadly, that and Beneath the mire are the only GR songs im listning to constantly. Oh and BOTH.
Isolation Years has become my favorite on GR after GOP of course.

guitrguy
03-14-2006, 01:14 AM
Plus, I'm getting all my mates to come to that concert too, they don't really listen to Opeth all that much, if at all, but I'm sure they'll change their views and become fans.
Im trying to get one of my freinds to go. His extent of Metal knowledge is Slayer and Metallica. He's been wanting to get deeper into metal and I think taking him to the Opeth show would be a good way to start.

Thor
03-14-2006, 08:10 AM
the other day me and a buddy went into one of our local music stores, i was going to buy "morningrise" i have had all the songs for a long time, but out of respect to the band i figured i had to buy the album.
anyway as i picked it up some guy goes dude OPETH IS AMAZING, **** yes i replied, then across the room some guy goes ORCHID BABY. five opeth fans in one place coincidently?
i felt like i was in a movie (none of them worked at the store)
Great to hear that Opeth has ensnared yet another listener. Which song was the first one to really get you into them?

The first Opeth song that really got me hooked on them was Bleak.

Stoo
03-14-2006, 10:57 AM
Great to hear that Opeth has ensnared yet another listener. Which song was the first one to really get you into them?

The first Opeth song that really got me hooked on them was Bleak.

123. When I heard it first time I was like "omfg intro is soo evil" :p

Deth
03-14-2006, 11:30 AM
The Drapery Falls was the song that stuck with me in the early days. It's not really one of my favorites anymore though.

ok lateralus
03-14-2006, 01:09 PM
Ive always seen GR as having two separate 'sides', one good and one bad- one is a new sound that is almost like a pop death metal, an epic, progressive, heavy, yet commercial with soulful clean vocals- ex, GOP, the end of BotH, parts of BtM and Atonement, or Isolation Years. The other side is a duller and more blatantly commercial metal music that isn't terribly interesting or creative, and belongs on MTV2- ex, TGC and most of R/HF. I just hope they keep the better sound for the next album.

Shadius
03-14-2006, 02:19 PM
Ive always seen GR as having two separate 'sides', one good and one bad- one is a new sound that is almost like a pop death metal, an epic, progressive, heavy, yet commercial with soulful clean vocals- ex, GOP, the end of BotH, parts of BtM and Atonement, or Isolation Years. The other side is a duller and more blatantly commercial metal music that isn't terribly interesting or creative, and belongs on MTV2- ex, TGC and most of R/HF. I just hope they keep the better sound for the next album.

I mostly disagree. I don't see what's blatently commercial about Harlequin Forest at all, it's cleaner and the riffs arn't quite as interesting as a lot of Opeth, but the vocals more than make up for it, IMO, and are very interesting. I don't think the riffs are even THAT inferior, anyway, I don't think theres anything wrong with playing a vocal melody as a riff, but a lot of people do. It's the longest song on the album, it's not commercial. Ghost Reveries as an album has a more easy to digest sound than most Opeth, but commercial? I wouldn't go that far at all.

I would say that that GoP, BotH and R/HF are the best songs on that album along with IY, BtM coming close behind with HoW then Atonement and TGC last, and so long as they don't go down the TGC route for their next album I'll be happy.

Shred Danson
03-14-2006, 02:27 PM
123. When I heard it first time I was like "omfg intro is soo evil" :p

:lol: what I first thought was "omfg the intro is so...Arabic!"..the acoustic guitars give it that vibe. Still feckin' awesome.