Opeth

[Shattered_Future]

The second verse of Bleak:

Moving/I am moving closer to your side
Luring/You are luring me into the night
Crying/Who is crying for you here?
Dying/I am dying fast inside your tears

Everytime he growls that line, it gives me goosebumps...

[Flynn]

Yeah I will.

I also listened to Forest of October for the first time. Once again, I'll have to listen to it again :p I liked it though.


Oh man, that song is great. :thumb:

[Stormrider]

Hmm, I'll listen again to it right now :p

EDIT: I think I've just found my nexy Opeth song to learn...

[^Dream~Theater^]

2nd time opeth played The Amen corner on tour, and on thursday night they let out THE LEPER Affinity!!!

[Stoo]

The second verse of Bleak:

Moving/I am moving closer to your side
Luring/You are luring me into the night
Crying/Who is crying for you here?
Dying/I am dying fast inside your tears

Everytime he growls that line, it gives me goosebumps...
123. Awesome growling + line.

[Seed Awakening]

2nd time opeth played The Amen corner on tour, and on thursday night they let out THE LEPER Affinity!!!

Man that would have been awsome. Where did you see them?

[^Dream~Theater^]

Man that would have been awsome. Where did you see them?
I didnt see them, i frequently check the forums at Opeth.com for the setlists and it seems they are switching up 2 songs every night.

[Flynn]

Hmm, I'll listen again to it right now :p

EDIT: I think I've just found my nexy Opeth song to learn...


That's a great song to play along to, there's a few parts I'm still working on.

[Stormrider]

That's a great song to play along to, there's a few parts I'm still working on.

I'll go look at the tab after. But I want to finish Black Rose Immortal before starting any other Opeth song.

And the song was great :thumb:

[Darkness]

Mikael: We want solos too but were no jeff loomis. (laughs)

I found that pretty funny
NOBODYS Jeff Loomis. :D


NP - Born - Nevermore :thumb:

/fanboy

[Seed Awakening]

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]NOBODYS Jeff Loomis. :D

True. I got This Godless Endevour a few weeks ago and it's excellant.

[Seed Awakening]

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]NOBODYS Jeff Loomis. :D

True. I got This Godless Endeavor a few weeks ago and it's excellant.

[Seed Awakening]

Sorry for the double post, I'm still a newbie.

[Flynn]

Sorry for the double post, I'm still a newbie.

Don't sweat it, **** happens. Welcome to the forums. :)


True. I got This Godless Endeavor a few weeks ago and it's excellant.


I'm still waiting for my copy. :angry: Nice avatar btw. \m/ -_- \m/

[Darkness]

Seed dude, (first off, Seed Awakening is an awesome song :D ) but try useing the edit button, you can change posts, delete posts, etc.

Flynn dude, nice, you're now at just over half of my post count. :chug:

But you'll still never catch me... :evil:

[Shattered_Future]

I love the second to last song off of TGE (name eludes me now...).

[Darkness]

A Future Uncertain. I love that song.. the intro is excellent.

[Flynn]

I think I'm going to work on Under The Weeping Moon today.


Seed dude, (first off, Seed Awakening is an awesome song :D ) but try useing the edit button, you can change posts, delete posts, etc.

Flynn dude, nice, you're now at just over half of my post count. :chug:

But you'll still never catch me... :evil:

rofl :p

[Stormrider]

I think I'm going to work on Under The Weeping Moon today.
I'm going to work ona little more fronm Black Rose Immortal later on.

/irrelevant

[Flynn]

That's a great song to learn, especially if you have some type of multi track playback recorder. It's fun to play along with. :thumb:

[Stormrider]

That's a great song to learn, especially if you have some type of multi track playback recorder. It's fun to play along with. :thumb:

Yes, very fun to play along to.

And yeah, I was looking for a recording program that I could have fun with. Only have this cheap mic so far.

I'm at the 14 minute mark, plan to get further later on today.

EDIT: Since I know you like Death a lot, would you mind sending me some of their stuff when you have time ? Thanks a lot. Well, if you want..

[Flynn]

Yes, very fun to play along to.

And yeah, I was looking for a recording program that I could have fun with. Only have this cheap mic so far.

I'm at the 14 minute mark, plan to get further later on today.

EDIT: Since I know you like Death a lot, would you mind sending me some of their stuff when you have time ? Thanks a lot. Well, if you want..


Get on MSN, I'll hook you up with a few songs.

Puritan77@hotmail.com

[Stormrider]

Get on MSN, I'll hook you up with a few songs.

Puritan77@hotmail.com

Just added you..I'm scared :p

[Darkness]

Just added you..I'm scared :p
You should be... he won't leave you alone... ever.


:lol:

[Stormrider]

You should be... he won't leave you alone... ever.


:lol:

Haha :p I dont think he wants to talk to me on MSN...im 13.

Come to think of it Flynn, its okay, you dont have to send me those songs...thanks though.

[Darkness]

I'm 16, and he talks to me.

I could send you songs, if you like. Though I don't have the vast knowledge of Death that Flynns does, I still have some songs and albums, which I love.

[Stormrider]

Well, Flynn, if you have the time on your hands then go ahead.

He's the only MX'er i have on MSN. I dont know what to say :-/

[Darkness]

Just be like "hey mang whats bangin sen me dem trax yo".


..or something to that effect.

[^Dream~Theater^]

Add me to MSN
Miracleandthesleeper@hotmail.com

[Stormrider]

Just be like "hey mang whats bangin sen me dem trax yo".


..or something to that effect.

Heh, I'll just say hi, and watch ho any convo with an MX'er go down to about 10 lines :p

And Dream Theatre, sure.

[Darkness]

Well don't leave me out. :(

somebodysomeone509@hotmail.com

[Flynn]

I could send you songs, if you like. Though I don't have the vast knowledge of Death that Flynns does, I still have some songs and albums, which I love.

You have pretty good taste. :) I will have to say my favorite Opeth album atm is Orchid.

[Stormrider]

So I was learning this part on Black Rose Immortal up to the 16 and half minute mark, and everything was fine, so I decided to play along to it...and at about the 13 minte mark or so, I for got what was between the part I had just leaned and the 13 minute mark...I hate when that happens.

/felt like pointing it out

NP Death - Bite the Pain

[Flynn]

haha just keep playing with it, it'll all fall into place. :thumb:

[Stormrider]

Yeah, I know. I'll keep playing that part so it will stick in my head.

And thanks for the Death song. I realy like it :)

[Flynn]

Anytime :)

[MidnightRider]

Harvest is really fun to play on guitar. So are For Absent Friends and Patterns In The Ivy.

[Flynn]

Patterns In The Ivy II is really fun to play also. Great chord progressions on that song. It's almost impossible to play and sound good without a Capo though.

[Toaster]

Blackwater Park is a really fun song to play. So are Deliverance and The Moor.

[The Cynic]

Patterns In The Ivy II is really fun to play also. Great chord progressions on that song. It's almost impossible to play and sound good without a Capo though.


I've been looking all over the place for that tab, I never knew what fret the capo went on.

[TojesDolan]

Harvest is really fun to play on guitar. So are For Absent Friends and Patterns In The Ivy.
Don't forget ending credits.


NEVER forget ending credits.

[Jude]

I was just trying to learn BRI on bass. Some of the parts are pretty complex and crazy, but a lot of it is fills and stuff, not that hard to get down. It's a fun song to play.

[Deth]

Do you have a good tab of it? If so, could you give me a link?

[Cardboard Headgear]

Patterns In The Ivy II is really fun to play also. Great chord progressions on that song. It's almost impossible to play and sound good without a Capo though.
Just play it in a different key if you don't have a capo.

[Jude]

Do you have a good tab of it? If so, could you give me a link?
Nah, I was just figuring it out. I could use a good tab too though.

[Crysiss]

Gah! first of all OPETH ****ING SUCK!!!!!!!!!!! I agree with you axe of darkness! And martin is a complete ****! i love his drumming on the demo's STTNW and OSFTGH but what kind of ****head goes from the best band in the world to a gay pansy flower band such as OPETH??? And anyway Fredrik's drumming on A Canorous Quintet is very similar to the drumming of early AA anyway. So thats why he kills Martin.

Looks like this guy is just pissed off because Martin Left Amon Amarth

[Slapping Penguin]

Have I ever metioned how much I hate the name of this thread.

I am excited, I bought my Opeth ticket and I was trying to get a mate to come along. He usually likes good R&M and in his words as long as the tunes are kicking he is happy. So to try and get him to come I lent him Lamentations. He really like it espically the Damnation set. We needed something to play for music and he said he wanted to play Windowpane. So I am excited.

[Darkness]

Have I ever metioned how much I hate the name of this thread.
Hey! :angry: I came up with it.

[MidnightRider]

I've always liked the name of this thread, I'm glad you'll didn't make it lame by turning it into "Look Your Last Upon The Thread," or something like that.

[Shattered_Future]

I like it...it's got a nice ring to it.

Best Opeth riff ever = opening riff to Master's Apprentices. SO much fun to bust out in school hallway after Les Miserables pit practice. :lol:

[Cardboard Headgear]

Come to think of it, that song would sound pretty nifty rearranged and played by a symphony.

[Shattered_Future]

It would. Maybe I should slip it into everybody's book...*shifty eyes*

[MidnightRider]

Well, I just downloaded and heard The Twilight Is My Robe for the first time. I must say, it's pretty amazing. The growls are incredible, I'm definitely going to buy Orchid in the near future.

[penelope weird hands]

w00 !
Have just been trekking around Perth today and saw Morningrise, My Arms Your Hearse, Deliverance, Blackwater Park and Damnation in 78 Records.. and Orchid in JBHifis!
I get paid in two days.
I have Still Life and Ghost Reveries already.

I have heard every Opeth album.. but I have hardly heard Orchid and Morningrise since a 'mate' (heh) of mine has had them for months! ;/

Which one should I get!?

I'll probably only get one for now, I need to save for my Opeth ticket. ;}

*ravenously drools*

[Seed Awakening]

Well, I just downloaded and heard The Twilight Is My Robe for the first time. I must say, it's pretty amazing. The growls are incredible, I'm definitely going to buy Orchid in the near future.

That was the first non clean Opeth song that I heard, it is pretty amazing, the acoustic section that comes on halfway through the song, and then the clean solo. Incredible music.

[Seed Awakening]

w00 !
Have just been trekking around Perth today and saw Morningrise, My Arms Your Hearse, Deliverance, Blackwater Park and Damnation in 78 Records.. and Orchid in JBHifis!
I get paid in two days.
I have Still Life and Ghost Reveries already.

I have heard every Opeth album.. but I have hardly heard Orchid and Morningrise since a 'mate' (heh) of mine has had them for months! ;/

Which one should I get!?

I'll probably only get one for now, I need to save for my Opeth ticket. ;}

*ravenously drools*

I would go with My Arms, Your Hearse only because that is the only Opeth album that I can't find. But for your situation I would reccommend Morningrise if you want early Opeth, Blackwater Park if you want to hear Opeths most popular album, and Damnation for their quieter side. Good that you have Still Life, thats their best in my opinion.

[ok lateralus]

Yeah, Twilight is My Robe is an amazing song.

[Thor]

Are there any other Opeth fans in here that are amazed by "A Fair Judgement"? I think that has one of the band's best guitar solos ever.

[ok lateralus]

Are there any other Opeth fans in here that are amazed by "A Fair Judgement"? I think that has one of the band's best guitar solos ever.

Yeah, I love it... I am so sick of Deliverance right now though. I listened to it way too mcuh

[Stormrider]

Yeah, Twilight is My Robe is an amazing song.

First song of the "old" Opeth I heard. Great song. I've looked for the powertab of that for a long time and came up empty...

[Txus]

This is a pretty good cover of Masters Apprentice...it´s a video of some guys playing it at school.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4153372561067572007&q=opeth

I think its a good cover, their singer is good.

[TojesDolan]

Yeah, it was posted a while ago...

Good stuff, indeed.

On a side note, I'd like to make notice the fact that the album I'm PLANNING to buy now is Deliverance, since Still Life... well I can't find it anybloodywhere I look for it. However, I may be dissapointed by the lack of attention to the lyrics, the incredible drag-on and the über-repetitive riffs at times... but I'll try and getitgetitgetit.

[Stoo]

/Still waiting for D&D from Amazon.

1 month now. :angry:

[Shattered_Future]

I should probably buy some of Opeth's cds...I have all of them, but have only bought Damnation.

Sucks not having a good source of income. :angry:

[Stormrider]

I only bought one...but have none of the others :upset:

[Tyr]

So far I have half of their cd's, but I will try to buy the rest soon. So many cd's to buy, so short on cash (story of my life... the cash part, that is).

[Flynn]

I've been looking all over the place for that tab, I never knew what fret the capo went on.

The Capo goes on the 1st fret. There's tabs for it without a capo, but they don't sound good at all.

http://metaltabs.com/tab/8150/

[Jude]

/Still waiting for D&D from Amazon.

1 month now. :angry:
A month? You should check up on that...sounds shady.

[GenuineImitation]

I have a problem. I only have enough money to get two cds. Im getting the new kalmah cd and the other one is going to be either Orchid or Still Life. Which one is better?

[Darkness]

Flynn would say Orchid, but Still Life seems to more of the fan favorite. :)

[MidnightRider]

Still Life. I don't have all of Orchid, but Still Life is a masterpiece.

[GenuineImitation]

Which one is heavier?

[Darkness]

Probably Still Life, though Orchid has more harsh vocals. Orchid focuses more on the twin harmony thing, where as Still Life is melodic, heavy riffing with lots of acoustics. It's also probably the most technical Opeth album, guitar wise.

[GenuineImitation]

Probably Still Life, though Orchid has more harsh vocals. Orchid focuses more on the twin harmony thing, where as Still Life is melodic, heavy riffing with lots of acoustics.


I think I may get Still Life then and get Orchid for my birthday.

[Darkness]

Don't let me turn you off, Orchid is still excellent. It's just Still Life is often reguarded as the bands master peice, and for good reason.

[GenuineImitation]

Don't let me turn you off, Orchid is still excellent. It's just Still Life is often reguarded as the bands master peice, and for good reason.


Im going to get Orchid anyway. Just not this week.

[Killtacular]

Don't let me turn you off, Orchid is still excellent. It's just Still Life is often reguarded as the bands master piece, and for good reason.
Unless you're part of that filthy "Blackwater Park" crowd.

You stay away from those kids, they'll get you into trouble.

[^Dream~Theater^]

Unless you're part of that filthy "Blackwater Park" crowd.

You stay away from those kids, they'll get you into trouble.
Reya Dawnbringer...4/9 Angel I believe that brings a creature from your graveyard to play at the beginning of each upkeep? "hangs head in shame"
I played Mtg for too long:)

[Shattered_Future]

Unless you're part of that filthy "Blackwater Park" crowd.

You stay away from those kids, they'll get you into trouble.

Don't make me castrate you with a ballpoint pen. :angry:

But yea, Still Life is miles better, I think, than Orchid. And a ton harder to find.

[Darkness]

Unless you're part of that filthy "Blackwater Park" crowd.

You stay away from those kids, they'll get you into trouble.
I think both are equal, personally.

[Moses]

I think both are equal, personally.
I like BWP slightly more...

/shrug

[Darkness]

I still think both are equal, but Still Life is a little more consistent in goodness, but the high points of BWP are higher then that of Still Life, thus making the albums pretty equal for me.

[Shattered_Future]

^ I'd say that theory is pretty true. Still Life on the whole is better...only 1 track seems like it doesn't belong (Face Of Melinda, IMO). BWP has a few.

However, what BWP lacks in consistency, it makes up for in awesomeness in the good parts. Bleak, The Leper Affinity, certain other riffs throughout the whole album are 30 times better than the good moments on Still Life.

Oh, and the iTunes visualizer is officially the greatest thing ever. A Change Of Seasons by Dream Theater supplied the theory, Blackwater Park confirmed it. Go try it.

[=-fukifiknow-=]

meh, dont pick at things, all albums are amazing in thier own respect.
honestly, i prefer still life to blackwater park, but that is as of now, it seems ever few weeks i have a new "favorite" opeth cd

[UpperDecker]

You know that real melodic riff at the end of Forest Of October. Ive been listening to this song for months and just realized that that riff is the same riff as right after the intro but not distorted. How slow am i.

[Stoo]

A month? You should check up on that...sounds shady.
Yeah, they sent me an email sayin one of them is delayed so they're just gonna stall the one they have so they send me both together.

So close to havin all 8!

Same thing happened when I ordered from Play.com, they sent me Come Clarity a week before Reign In Blood. Pain in the Beeeehind.

As far as BWP and SL...

BWP is my fav, I agree with DoG, the highs are much higher... on BWP.
Plus it was my 1st Opeth album and the 1st Opeth song I ever heard was Bleak.

/Hold BWP close to chest. :p

[Neoteric]

Most people I know say that the song Dirge For November is boring but I love it!

[Jude]

Most people I know say that the song Dirge For November is boring but I love it!
I've started to like it a lot more recently.

I'm one of the Still Life crowd...BWP is up there, but I think my order goes SL > Morningrise > BWP. Not necessarily in order of quality but just how much I like the albums. I think BWP has more high points than SL but SL is more consistent. Plus the concept is really cool.

[Neoteric]

I've started to like it a lot more recently.

I'm one of the Still Life crowd...BWP is up there, but I think my order goes SL > Morningrise > BWP. Not necessarily in order of quality but just how much I like the albums. I think BWP has more high points than SL but SL is more consistent. Plus the concept is really cool.
I love how the song has no intro, it just starts with some beautiful acoustic and Mikeal's clean voice, the song loses it's goodness near the end but I can stand it.

[^Dream~Theater^]

I was looking up all of Opeth's setlists they've done in America and In Mist she was standing has never been played :(

[Darkness]

I was looking up all of Opeth's setlists they've done in America and In Mist she was standing has never been played :(
That's actually good, because Mikeal said he doesn't like to play the same songs over and over again in the same place, so that just raises the chances of it being played over some other Orchid song that has been played.

[JamJar]

Hehe, The new skin is cool. And I personally think that Dirge For Novermber is great. The heavy section has some very cool and interesting riffs.

[Treebeard]

Most people I know say that the song Dirge For November is boring but I love it!

Dirge for November is one of my favorite Opeth songs.

[Shadius]

I agree with the consistancy thing. Still Life is more consistant. Blackwater park does have some slightly better songs on it though (Some of Opeth's best; Leper Affinity, Bleak, Harvest, Drapery Falls) but the rest of the stuff isn't anywhere near as good IMO. Still Life does have some amazing moments though, I'd say it's the best Opeth album.

When I listen to My Arms, Your hearse now though, I hear an almost consistantly inferior version of Still Life. Which isn't necesserally a bad thing, cos I honestly think it's actually a good album now, just never quite being a masterpiece.

[Treebeard]

Still Life and onward > before Still life

[JamJar]

Still Life and onward > before Still life

I totally agree. IMO It's predecessors lacked in the songwriting department.

[i am the robots]

Uhh... what? That's sheer idiocy.

IMO, it goes in this order:

My Arms Your Hearse > Still Life > Morningrise > Deliverence > Damnation > Blackwater Park > Orchid > Ghost Reveries

[Darkness]

Uhh... what? That's sheer idiocy.

IMO, it goes in this order:

My Arms Your Hearse > Still Life > Morningrise > Deliverence > Damnation > Blackwater Park > Orchid > Ghost Reveries
It's not idocy, it just depends what you look for in the band. I prefer Still Life and on to pre SL also. But I love it all, as I've said before.

[Shattered_Future]

It really ISN'T idiocy. Pre SL songs lacked any sort of structure...it was just a bunch of different riffs jammed together.

[i am the robots]

It really ISN'T idiocy. Pre SL songs lacked any sort of structure...it was just a bunch of different riffs jammed together.

I disagree, the newer stuff has hardly any actual structure for the most part either, just certain songs, and for the most part those songs are on Damnation.

[UpperDecker]

Morningrise owns every other Opeth album.

[Darkness]

I disagree, the newer stuff has hardly any actual structure for the most part either, just certain songs, and for the most part those songs are on Damnation.

What? The songs are way more structured on the newer releases, the way they return to previously played riffs, or verses. The stuff on the older albums really did have no structure, it was just stuff put together, but it still worked for that style of music.

Morningrise owns every other Opeth album.

Yeah, well, that comes down to opinion.

[JamJar]

What? The songs are way more structured on the newer releases, the way they return to previously played riffs, or verses. The stuff on the older albums really did have no structure, it was just stuff put together, but it still worked for that style of music.

I concur. And D&D are now my favourite Opeth albums!!!

[i am the robots]

What? The songs are way more structured on the newer releases, the way they return to previously played riffs, or verses. The stuff on the older albums really did have no structure, it was just stuff put together, but it still worked for that style of music.

Yet if you compare it to something like, oh say Linkin Park, it's a lot less structured, is it not?

A lot of progressive stuff isn't structured at all, and that's what gives it its beauty, the songs progress from one part to a whole new section. It's not just a bunch of cool sounding riffs thrown together, it actually flows well, does it not?

Underoath's first two albums were a lot like that too, to say that their newer stuff is better because it's, "more structured," would be a crime.

[JamJar]

Yet if you compare it to something like, oh say Linkin Park, it's a lot less structured, is it not?

A lot of progressive stuff isn't structured at all, and that's what gives it its beauty, the songs progress from one part to a whole new section. It's not just a bunch of cool sounding riffs thrown together, it actually flows well, does it not?

Underoath's first two albums were a lot like that too, to say that their newer stuff is better because it's, "more structured," would be a crime.

But the structure is not the only reason I prefer the newer stuff. They have generally IMO improved their sound and have evolved more as musicians. And by structured, it doesn't necesserily have to be Linkin Park's Verse/Chorus/Verse/Chorus/Bridge/Chorus. I prefer some structure in songs and generally I feel that the earlier stuff is two stop starty for my taste. Thus Morningrise is my least favourite album. (I do not have Orchid yet but I have some songs from it.)

[TojesDolan]

I guess what's being... said here is that around... pre My arms, your hearse, the songs flowed from a riff to another like just copied-pasted after the other. Black Rose Immortal is a great example of that. The song is like a bunch of songs put together into one massive song. Not exactly bad or anything like that, it just seems like they have really found a way to make it "progress" into the next section, more than just putting unconnected riffs one over the other.

However, Ghost Reveries was D&D minus the double package. It contains both the soft/mellow side and the heavy side, all in one package, but for some reason it just doesn't feel very well together.

...

Oh yes and Still life drags in the acoustic parts. :eek:

There I said it.

[JamJar]

Oh yes and Still life drags in the acoustic parts. :eek:

There I said it.

:amaze:

How dare thee!!!

[Thor]

I concur. And D&D are now my favourite Opeth albums!!!
While they are both very solid, they don't compare to Blackwater Park and Still Life if you ask me.

And if I had to pick between Deliverance and Damnation, I'd probably go with Damnation.

[i am the robots]

But the structure is not the only reason I prefer the newer stuff. They have generally IMO improved their sound and have evolved more as musicians. And by structured, it doesn't necesserily have to be Linkin Park's Verse/Chorus/Verse/Chorus/Bridge/Chorus. I prefer some structure in songs and generally I feel that the earlier stuff is two stop starty for my taste. Thus Morningrise is my least favourite album. (I do not have Orchid yet but I have some songs from it.)

Blah, I think the newer stuff is better than Orchid, but I think My Arms, Your Hearse and Morningriseare masterpieces.

[TojesDolan]

:amaze:

How dare thee!!!
I don't know. I'm not particularly in love with the acoustic parts in "the Moor" and some other assorted acoustic parts. They are just way too much.

However, I enjoyed the little acoustic parts such as... the one in "karma". Short, amazing, to the point. Yep. Probably the song length had something to do.

[Thor]

I don't know. I'm not particularly in love with the acoustic parts in "the Moor" and some other assorted acoustic parts. They are just way too much.

However, I enjoyed the little acoustic parts such as... the one in "karma". Short, amazing, to the point. Yep. Probably the song length had something to do.
How many people have told you that your avatar is slightly disturbing?:)

And I'll agree that the opening two or so minutes to "The Moor" is a great way to open the album right before the heaviness kicks in. That's got to be one of Opeth's best songs of all time.

[Darkness]

Yet if you compare it to something like, oh say Linkin Park, it's a lot less structured, is it not?

A lot of progressive stuff isn't structured at all, and that's what gives it its beauty, the songs progress from one part to a whole new section. It's not just a bunch of cool sounding riffs thrown together, it actually flows well, does it not?

Underoath's first two albums were a lot like that too, to say that their newer stuff is better because it's, "more structured," would be a crime.

Actually, there are some parts on Orchid that I find don't flow very well, where as you would almost never find that on SL or BWP. Linkin Park is formuletic (verse, chorus, etc.) and repetitive, where as the later Opeth, while still holding on to the main structure of a song, is still able to venture outside the box and explore new sounds all within one song, while still making it fit, and have meening in the song. This is done well with songs like "The Drapery Falls" where the song starts off formuletic, but instead of just returning to the chorus after the solo, it goes into a completly new direction that still flows perfectly, then it returns to the sound displayed earlier in the song, then fades away with the intro riff. That's an example of what I meen by "structured". There are songs that are much different then this obviously. Dirge for November comes to mind, and I think the reason I (and seemingly many others) don't like it as much as the rest of BWP, is because it doesn't flow as nicely, as say, Bleak. Bleak has a structure, it's just a different structure then that is shown throughout the rest of the album, but still flows very well. (I still hate Steves vocals in that song though :p )

I hope this made sense, it's kind of hard to explain what I have in mind.

[Hells Bells]

A lot of progressive stuff isn't structured at all, and that's what gives it its beauty, the songs progress from one part to a whole new section.

It usually is structured, but the structure is much more complex and harder to get a grasp of. I wouldn't say that their earlier stuff isn't structured either. I just finished listening to Under the Weeping Moon, and IMO it's one of their best structured songs. The parts lead into each other, and there is a continuity in the atmosphere of the song that ties it together very well. Other than that, it's just become my favourite Opeth song. The soundscape Mikael creates in the middle is stunning :eek:

[ok lateralus]

I realized that I think I like Opeth's first 4 better than the newest 4. The old stuff just has this amazing atmosphere combined with emotional guitar work and clean vocals... just outstanding. They never quite captured the beauty of Morningrise and MAYH (my 2 fav Opeth albums) again. Still, I'm not going to rag on BWP or Deliverance & Damnation... those are fantastic albums too. BWP is probably my favorite of the bunch at the moment. I'm just tired of Deliverance because I over-listened to it, and also it lacks the atmospherics of the other albums.. don't get me wrong, I love it, but it's kind of... empty sounding, sometimes. Damnation is beautiful, and Ghost Reveries is by far their worst album, though it does have a few of their very best songs, actually. I just think it's impossible for songs like R/HF and TGC to be compared seriously to amazing works of art like When or The Moor.

[TojesDolan]

How many people have told you that your avatar is slightly disturbing?:)

And I'll agree that the opening two or so minutes to "The Moor" is a great way to open the album right before the heaviness kicks in. That's got to be one of Opeth's best songs of all time.
I think I've gotten two or three this week. :p

Anyhow, the intro to the Moor is fantastic, in my opinion. The middle section after "there is no forgiveness..." is what bugs me a bit. Other than that the song is awesome.

On a side note, I like the structure in some Damnations songs... Especially Windowpane. It's suppsoed to end when the first riff is repeated, but all of the sudden, Mikael starts singing again, for what it'd be the third verse. There's the "unpredictability" factor in most Opeth, however, it just seemed much more evident afterwards.

[Det_Nosnip]

Most people I know say that the song Dirge For November is boring but I love it!

The beginning is one of the high points of the CD for me, but the rest of the song is average. For BWP standards, at least. ;)

[Flynn]

I realized that I think I like Opeth's first 4 better than the newest 4. The old stuff just has this amazing atmosphere combined with emotional guitar work and clean vocals... just outstanding. They never quite captured the beauty of Morningrise and MAYH (my 2 fav Opeth albums) again. Still, I'm not going to rag on BWP or Deliverance & Damnation... those are fantastic albums too. BWP is probably my favorite of the bunch at the moment. I'm just tired of Deliverance because I over-listened to it, and also it lacks the atmospherics of the other albums.. don't get me wrong, I love it, but it's kind of... empty sounding, sometimes. Damnation is beautiful, and Ghost Reveries is by far their worst album, though it does have a few of their very best songs, actually. I just think it's impossible for songs like R/HF and TGC to be compared seriously to amazing works of art like When or The Moor.



Well said.

[Toaster]

Morningrise owns every other Opeth album.

It's my second least favourite Opeth album. Orchid is far better. I'd make an argument for the lastest four albums, but everyone probably knows how it'd go.

[UpperDecker]

On a random note, how awesome is that part in In Mist She Was Standing where he screams "It will fade awayyyyyyy aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh". I freakin love that part. He sound so damn evil.

[ok lateralus]

On a random note, how awesome is that part in In Mist She Was Standing where he screams "It will fade awayyyyyyy aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh". I freakin love that part. He sound so damn evil.

Yeah, true, that part kicks ***.

.... but not as much as the outro! Hah, just had to throw that in there for like the millionth time in this thread

[Thor]

UpperDecker, Morningrise owns all other Opeth albums? No way. I actually find that to be their weakest release actually. Here's how it breaks down for me:

Blackwater Park > Still Life > Damnation > Ghost Reveries > My Arms Your Hearse > Deliverance > Orchid > Morningrise

On another note: is the DVD worth getting?

[Darkness]

^ Yes, if you like Damnation. They play all of it, plus Harvest, then they play 5 of the heavier songs. It's pretty good. The documentry is pretty good also, you will like Deliverance more after seeing it.

[ok lateralus]

Yeah, Lamentations is definitely worth buying if you like D&D... too bad they don't play anything from before BWP in the concert though. The documentary is really cool too though, so it's worth getting def.

For me, it would be probably
Morningrise > MAYH > Still Life > Orchid > Blackwater Park > Deliverance > Damnation > Ghost Reveries

[Darkness]

How many times are we going to list our favorite albums in order guys?

[Stormrider]

I saw a bit of Damnation once...when my brother had borrowed it from a friend. I want it. But there is another DVD I want first.

[ok lateralus]

Hah, I dont know. I just decided to do it now cause I'm bored, and it always changes.

Anyway back to more important topics....
Wuts ur fave Opeth song guyz??! LOLZ

[Toaster]

Hah, I dont know. I just decided to do it now cause I'm bored, and it always changes.

Anyway back to more important topics....
Wuts ur fave Opeth song guyz??! LOLZ

I'd say Bleak.

/gets the joke.

[UpperDecker]

UpperDecker, Morningrise owns all other Opeth albums? No way. I actually find that to be their weakest release actually. Here's how it breaks down for me:

Blackwater Park > Still Life > Damnation > Ghost Reveries > My Arms Your Hearse > Deliverance > Orchid > Morningrise

On another note: is the DVD worth getting?

Yea its my favorite, followed closely by My Arms and Still Life. If you like Opeth then you should get Lamentations, i hardly watch it but it is good. I just wish they played other stuff besides from D and D.

[Darkness]

Face Of Melinda or Blackwater Park for me. :p

[ok lateralus]

Demon of the Fall for me
(predictable I know)

[UpperDecker]

Oh my god, one song? Thats nearly impossible. I'll have to say........ The Moor

[Flynn]

The Grand Conjuration! :lol:

[Darkness]

LIAR!

I bet your favorite is Black Rose Immortal Flynn. :p

[Flynn]

You know me too well...

[penelope weird hands]

The Leper Affinity. \m/ ~.~ \m/

On a side note.. anyone know who Opeth will be touring with during their time in Australia?

[JamJar]

Oh my god, one song? Thats nearly impossible. I'll have to say........ The Moor

Definitely. 123 to everything there.

[Darkness]

Definitely. 123 to everything there.
The Moor makes sex look like church, I agree an awesome song indeed.

[Jude]

The Moor makes sex look like church
:lol:

My favorite song is Face of Melinda but there are a lot of songs VERY close behind it. Black Rose Immortal is my most played song of the moment at all in Winamp...it's got almost twice as many plays as the next two which are TBYF and Trains by Porcupine Tree.

[Flynn]

:lol:

My favorite song is Face of Melinda but there are a lot of songs VERY close behind it. Black Rose Immortal is my most played song of the moment at all in Winamp...it's got almost twice as many plays as the next two which are TBYF and Trains by Porcupine Tree.


:lol: that's awesome, my play count for Black Rose Immortal is at 96 on my media player alone.

[Mother]

Favrite song - The Moor Definetaly

[Darkness]

My favorite song is Face of Melinda
Good choice indeed. How can you tell how many plays you have on Winamp of a particular song?

[TojesDolan]

Good choice indeed. How can you tell how many plays you have on Winamp of a particular song?
The media library counts it for you.

Anyhow, at the moment I get the shivers with Wreath and key moments of Deliverance (the song)... But Serenity painted Death has become a late favorite.

[Cardboard Headgear]

AHHHHH this thread just goes in circles!

[Huber]

I've always wondered, where exactly did this thread's title come from?

[Flynn]

Opeth concert shirts

http://www.backstreetmerch.com/images/products/bands/clothing/opeth/bsi_opeth38.gif

[UpperDecker]

Since people agreed with me that The Moor is their best song we should change this thread title to "There is no forgiveness in this thread". Just a thought.

[G_Mac07]

On a side note.. anyone know who Opeth will be touring with during their time in Australia?

Hasn't been released yet. Although they are harsher bands, my guess is either Psycroptic, The Amenta of The Furor. Vanishing Point is another possibility, but I haven't heard much from them. I could be surprised though.

[Det_Nosnip]

Since people agreed with me that The Moor is their best song we should change this thread title to "There is no forgiveness in this thread". Just a thought.

I disagree. It's a great song, one of the best intros, but there are better. *glances at Dunkel* BLEAK AND GODHEAD'S LAMENT!!!

"Look Your Last..." is a nice neutral compromise.

[UpperDecker]

I'll probably get flamed for this but can you imagine Mikael on American Idol. He would own everyone. Just something i've been thinking about.

[Stoo]

Flame Flame

[i am the robots]

I'll probably get flamed for this but can you imagine Mikael on American Idol. He would own everyone. Just something i've been thinking about.

#1) No, he wouldn't win at all, he's not a pop singer.
#2) He wouldn't go on American Idol anyhow, he's Swedish, and he's already got a music carear going for him.

[UpperDecker]

#1) No, he wouldn't win at all, he's not a pop singer.
#2) He wouldn't go on American Idol anyhow, he's Swedish, and he's already got a music carear going for him.


ok ok, im not saying he should turn into a pop singer i just meant that his voice is just as good as everyone on there.

[Whale and Wasp]

I'll probably get flamed for this but can you imagine Mikael on American Idol. He would own everyone. Just something i've been thinking about.
:lol: that would be a good idea for one of those parodies

[i am the robots]

ok ok, im not saying he should turn into a pop singer i just meant that his voice is just as good as everyone on there.

Ah, I see... better than most too, unfortunately that's not the type of voice the American populus is looking for :upset:.

[Moses]

ok ok, im not saying he should turn into a pop singer i just meant that his voice is just as good as everyone on there.
Not really, Kelly Clarkson owns him by miles.

[Stoo]

I can just imagine Kelly Clarkson on Opeth's next release.

Trying to growl.

[Stormrider]

I can just imagine Kelly Clarkson on Opeth's next release.

Trying to growl.

You have a good imagination :p

[Stoo]

Be readin the CD booklet like "Kelly Clarkson wtfunk thought it was Matt Heeeeaaafy omfg"

[i am the robots]

Not really, Kelly Clarkson owns him by miles.

Yes, but the majority of the people in the contest... this arguement sucks, it's so pointless.

[Shattered_Future]

Mikael on American Idol would be hilarious.

*walks in* I swear I'm a normal guy.

*opens mouth* SATAN GROWL!!!1!1ONE!1!!!11!!!

Opeth tomorrow. Uberpsyched. :cool:

Anybody have any final details on setlist, or is it essentially the same as before?

[Stoo]

Same as before I think. Just the usual changes here and there.

Make sure you post it.

[Shattered_Future]

Will do. Hopefully I remember everything, and know all the songs. :)

[Stoo]

I didnt think I would remember the setlist when I went, but I did. I'm proud. :)

[Darkness]

I disagree. It's a great song, one of the best intros, but there are better. *glances at Dunkel* BLEAK AND GODHEAD'S LAMENT!!!
Blast you!

[Stormrider]

Whats the all the fuss with Godheads Lament ? Me must check it out.

/too lazy now

[Shattered_Future]

Godhead's Lament I could see where you're coming from, Dunky, but Bleak? Cmon man...Bleak has a kickass intro.

[Darkness]

It has a really gay* vocal line that pisses me off. :p

Shattered - Yep, Bleak has a pretty solid intro and ending, and the mid section. I just can't stand Stevens vocals there! I'm sorry! :upset:


*"what would they care if I was gay... no one would know, hooooomoooooo"..

[Stoo]

I agree with Bleak, but I can't get into Godheads' Lament. The intro riff is really annoying.

[Flynn]

Mikael on American Idol would be hilarious.

*walks in* I swear I'm a normal guy.

*opens mouth* SATAN GROWL!!!1!1ONE!1!!!11!!!


:lol: I'd just love to see Akerfeldt scream in Simon's face.

[Toaster]

I don't see the greatness of Bleak. Godhead's Lament is really awesome, but Bleak isn't anything special in my eyes.

[Flynn]

I really dig Godheads Lament, that's a great song. Bleak is cool, I've listened to that song so many times though...it's starting to wear and tear.

[Shattered_Future]

Wilson's vocals DO get a bit annoying, yes, but the riffage throughout that is just phenomanal.

[Flynn]

Wilson's vocals DO get a bit annoying, yes, but the riffage throughout that is just phenomanal.


Bleak? I actually think it's perfect for the song, especially in the lyrics. They are some of the coolest lyrics I've ever seen in a chorus. I like the verse's, my god god that song is powerful. I better give BWP a break until Fall, it's wearing and tearing...:lol:

[Shattered_Future]

No, I love the lyrics to that song, don't get me wrong, but Wilson's voice is a bit...whiny, almost. Not enough to turn off in disgust, but JUST enough to irritate me.

[Stoo]

To be honest, I had to come into this thread to find out it was Wilson singing and not Mikael (In Bleak). The singin is good, I just assumed it was Mike.

[Flynn]

No, I love the lyrics to that song, don't get me wrong, but Wilson's voice is a bit...whiny, almost. Not enough to turn off in disgust, but JUST enough to irritate me.



I like his vocals a lot on that song, I love singing along with the chorus, I definitely can't scream along with Akerfeldt, that's for sure :lol:

[Thor]

To be honest, I had to come into this thread to find out it was Wilson singing and not Mikael (In Bleak). The singin is good, I just assumed it was Mike.
The same thing happened to me when I first started listening to the band. I was a little dissapointed by that fact though, as I loved Wilson's vocals in that song and thought that it was one of the song's very high points.

NP - Opeth - The Moor

[Shattered_Future]

I can proudly say I can sing along with Akefeldt...or growl, however you want to put it.

Wilson does a decent job with the vocals, but Akefeldt could have done much better, I think.

[Flynn]

I can proudly say I can sing along with Akefeldt...or growl, however you want to put it.


I can for about 20 seconds, then I start coughing blood and lose my voice for about 3 weeks...

[Toaster]

Growling only really hurts after about an hour of going straight for me. I find that I take a couple minutes to find my "zone" anyway.

[Thor]

I can proudly say I can sing along with Akefeldt...or growl, however you want to put it.

Wilson does a decent job with the vocals, but Akefeldt could have done much better, I think.
If you've ever happened to see them play it live he does them. They're very impressive.

[Stoo]

Yeah, like Steven Wilson says in the Lamentations Documentary Mike has an awesome clean voice, more like Thom Yorke etc...which seperates him from pretty much all other Metal singers... < His words.

[Flynn]

Yeah, like Steven Wilson says in the Lamentations d0cumentary Mike has an awesome clean voice, more like Thom Yorke etc...which seperates him from pretty much all other Metal singers... < His words.


I'll drink to that. :chug:

[Stoo]

/Drinks.

NP: Face Of Melinda... Omfg hardcore beautifullness in a cup.

[Sixty Ton Angel]

^ That song scared me when I first heard it :upset:

[Flynn]

^ That song scared me when I first heard it :upset:


If that scared you, I can't immagine the effect you'd get from listening to some Bloodbath.

[Stoo]

^ That song scared me when I first heard it :upset:

:amaze: Slightly odd aren't you buddy.

[Stormrider]

You know what song scares me ? Lammoth by Blind Guardian. Its 30 seconds long, but it gives me shivers...

Now Opeth related, I want to continue learning BRI later on tonight. I'm at the 16 minute mark where there is a solo. I'll learn the riffs behind it. I practiced those riffs a little but the timing is still off by a little.

[Flynn]

You know what song scares me ? Lammoth by Blind Guardian. Its 30 seconds long, but it gives me shivers...

Yeah, I can't really tell what's happening on that track, but I know it's evil. :evil:


Now Opeth related, I want to continue learning BRI later on tonight. I'm at the 16 minute mark where there is a solo. I'll learn the riffs behind it. I practiced those riffs a little but the timing is still off by a little.


I'm still practicing those riffs at around 16:00. I need a nice acoustic to play some of the riffs on BRI like I want it to sound.

[Shattered_Future]

I STILL don't like Face Of Melinda. I don't know what it is...

[Deth]

You need a good beating then I suppose.

[Flynn]

I STILL don't like Face Of Melinda. I don't know what it is...


I know what it is...your taste!!!!! haha j/k

Give it more time, you'll like it. I'm sure it will take a while for the ''witch incantations'' that were put on the song to take effect.

[Darkness]

I STILL don't like Face Of Melinda. I don't know what it is...
I die a little every time I hear that... much like when you guys when you hear about my thoughts on those other songs.

[Shattered_Future]

That's true...I haven't found the urge to sacrifice puppies yet from listening to that.

However, I'm slowly appreciating White Cluster more. It's going to own live tomorrow. 21 hours!!!

[Toaster]

You need a good beating then I suppose.

I know what it is...your taste!!!!! haha j/k

Give it more time, you'll like it. I'm sure it will take a while for the ''witch incantations'' that were put on the song to take effect.

:lol: Owned hard!

I love it as a song in itself, but it might have more meaning to you if you check out the lyrics and how they connect with the concept of Still Life, if you haven't already. I wasn't a big fan of it either until fairly recently.

[Darkness]

Man.. me and that song clicked the first time I heard it... that last main electric riff just blows me away.

[i am the robots]

I die a little every time I hear that...

Same here son, same here.

[Flynn]

Man.. me and that song clicked the first time I heard it... that last main electric riff just blows me away.

My thoughts exactly. Not to mention, also, that's my favorite part of the concept.





''Endlessly gazing in nocturnal prime
She spoke of her vices and broke the rhyme
But baffled herself with the final line
My promise is made but my heart is thine...''

[Darkness]

^ Yeah, the lyrics are perfect also.

[The Cynic]

^ Opeth Is Perfect.

[Flynn]

They could of made an epic video to that song, or any of their songs for that matter. I'd really love to see a well directed video to an early Opeth song, I don't know why...

[Darkness]

The Grand Conjuration takes care of all my Opeth video needs!

[Flynn]

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit...thanks. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see them actually try and make something epic for any song off of GR. Preferably, Ghost Of Perdition...they have the talent.

[Darkness]

Yeah a well done Ghost Of Perdition would be awesome.

[Flynn]

Yes indeed. By video, I don't mean shots of the band on stage, then in the forest, then on top of a pyramid, but something more intricate and storylike yet very well directed with nice visuals and flow to the actual song. That would be awesome.

[Jude]

Yes indeed. By video, I don't mean shots of the band on stage, then in the forest, then on top of a pyramid, but something more intricate and storylike yet very well directed with nice visuals and flow to the actual song. That would be awesome.
I'm OK without it. The visuals Opeth generates in my head are better than any video could be.

[Flynn]

I'm OK without it. The visuals Opeth generates in my head are better than any video could be.


Yes, this is true. I'd still like to see at least one well directed video to an Opeth song.

[Cain]

ATTN: OPETH CAREER RETROSPECTIVE CONCERT REVIEW AND SETLIST

Great show, all things considered. The experience tonight was considerably more novel and artistic than the last Opeth show in New York a few months ago. As it took place in Town Hall, a high-class venue just off of Times Square, the show was seated and built around a "sit and appreciate the artistry" motif: there was only standing in the bottom seats, there were no pits, and barely anyone could stop gazing at Opeth onstage long enough to headbang. To a degree, I really missed the unpleasentness of being crammed up against untold bodies between the barrier and the crowd at the last show, for all its discomfort I loved the rush it gave to the music.

Since I was sitting for the whole show, encore excepted, I noticed that this show took on a decidedly head-scratching, analytical air. No doubt that was Opeth's intention, but given their decision to not only play a career retrospective but to deliberately pick obscure, non-fan-favorites I confess myself a teeny bit disappointed. I wanted to get lost in the true highlights off of Morningrise and so on, given that songs off those records are never played anyway. Even so, the power of Opeth live is mind-boggling: one of the benefits to this set construction was the way we could see Opeth's evolution and the true breadth of their compositional artistry, and when confronted with the sheer gravity and volume of music Opeth have created over their twelve-year career, I am amazed. All told, this was an excellent show.

Small critiques and comments of special note: I would have easily taken Black Rose Immortal or two different songs over the twenty-five-million-minute version of "Closure" they did this time around. It was the only point during the concert where I became outright bored, although the drummer and Per had fantastic extended solos in the song. The ballerinas were a rather apathetic experience for me: I was hoping for something awesome, but I'm sorry, there was nothing to convert me to dance's brand of art in this performance set to "Deliverance." Per Wiberg's keyboards were even more well-integrated with the band's sound than at the last show: his Hammond organ sounds and E-bow simulations caused a lot of their darker numbers to increase the ambience and musical depth tenfold. I am very impressed with how well he is becoming an asset to Opeth with his keyboards: very often the notes he played sounded almost like screams, which made the majority of the heavy music INCREDIBLY eerie, and very artsy and progressive-sounding. I was a little disappointed by the setlist, but I understand that the point of the retrospective was to pick more obscure songs rather than fan favorites.

SETLIST FOR THE RETROSPECTIVE:

ORCHID: Under the Weeping Moon
MORNINGRISE: The Night and the Silent Water
MY ARMS, YOUR HEARSE: The Amen Corner
STILL LIFE: White Cluster
BLACKWATER PARK: The Leper Affinity
DELIVERANCE: A Fair Judgement, Deliverance
DAMNATION: Windowpane, Closure
GHOST REVERIES: Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds, The Grand Conjuration
ENCORE: Demon of the Fall

[UpperDecker]

SETLIST FOR THE RETROSPECTIVE:

ORCHID: Under the Weeping Moon
MORNINGRISE: The Night and the Silent Water
MY ARMS, YOUR HEARSE: The Amen Corner
STILL LIFE: White Cluster
BLACKWATER PARK: The Leper Affinity
DELIVERANCE: A Fair Judgement, Deliverance
DAMNATION: Windowpane, Closure
GHOST REVERIES: Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds, The Grand Conjuration
ENCORE: Demon of the Fall


Sounds good, im glad to hear they played something from Morningrise.

[Werny]

Sounds pretty dayum sweet, Cain. Thanks for the review.

I just discovered something... my favourite Martin Lopez moment is the instrumental acoustic bit in The Baying of the Hounds! FLOOR TOMS EVERYBODY, FLOOR TOMS ARE YOUR FRIEND. And the little cymbals... aaaah.

[BurningSky]

The highlight of the show was when a man in the front row yelled something Swedish to Mike, which was followed by a short conversation. A few seconds later, Mike walks over to Peter and does a really cheesy pose with a thumbs up sign and a goofy smile. The crowd erupted in laughter, it was awesome...

[Cain]

The highlight of the show was when a man in the front row yelled something Swedish to Mike, which was followed by a short conversation. A few seconds later, Mike walks over to Peter and does a really cheesy pose with a thumbs up sign and a goofy smile. The crowd erupted in laughter, it was awesome...

Yeah, I loved that too. Where were you sitting?

[BurningSky]

Yeah, I loved that too. Where were you sitting?

Second to last row in the bottom middle section. I could see everything decently, and the guys in front of me were awesome...

[Shattered_Future]

The setlist leaves a little to be desired, true, but it's still Opeth.

Judging from your description, I can't tell if you had fun or not...I'm assuming you did. :thumb:

I leave for mine in...oh, 20 (read: 1 hour) minutes or so. My dad takes forever to get out of the house...

[Cain]

Second to last row in the bottom middle section. I could see everything decently, and the guys in front of me were awesome...

I was up in the balcony, Row J. :-/ I still had a decent view, but we had few die-hards in my area. Lots of girls who, I suspect, came to see the ballet and failed to recognize the extent of how "metal" the band behind them was going to be.

What did you think of the ballet?

EDIT: Shattered, I loved it. No worries. I'm just pissed that they played White Cluster instead of Serenity Painted Death and a completely self-indulgent, unneccesarily long version of "Closure" instead of another Morningrise song! (Even though the Closure solos made up for it)

[Shattered_Future]

Ah, ok.

Yea, I'm kinda pissed about the setlist too...none of my favorites in there.

Well, except for The Leper Affinity. That should kick epic ***.

[Deth]

I'm really suprised that they played The Night and The Silent Water, what with all of them professing their dislike of their song.

[BurningSky]

I was up in the balcony, Row J. :-/ I still had a decent view, but we had few die-hards in my area. Lots of girls who, I suspect, came to see the ballet and failed to recognize the extent of how "metal" the band behind them was going to be.

What did you think of the ballet?

EDIT: Shattered, I loved it. No worries. I'm just pissed that they played White Cluster instead of Serenity Painted Death and a completely self-indulgent, unneccesarily long version of "Closure" instead of another Morningrise song! (Even though the Closure solos made up for it)

The ballet was interesting. I was curious to see how they would incorporate such the seemingly innocent dancing style of ballet with such a harsh and dissonant style of music, and I think they pulled it off quite well.

Mikael's comment about them was also pretty funny...

As for Closure, I thoroughly enjoyed the extended "ambience", but I'm a sucker for lengthy space rock type stuff (hence my huge love for Porcupine Tree, especially the Sky Moves Sideways and Signify days), but I guess my tastes don't apply to all...

I was also hoping for The Moor, Godhead's Lament, or Serenity Painted Death rather than White Cluster, but I was quite happy with the song selection...

I also called them playing The Amen Corner along with the guy sitting in front of me, and when the opening riffs began, he gave me a huge high five...

[Cain]

The ballet was interesting. I was curious to see how they would incorporate such the seemingly innocent dancing style of ballet with such a harsh and dissonant style of music, and I think they pulled it off quite well.

Mikael's comment about them was also pretty funny...

As for Closure, I thoroughly enjoyed the extended "ambience", but I'm a sucker for lengthy space rock type stuff (hence my huge love for Porcupine Tree, especially the Sky Moves Sideways and Signify days), but I guess my tastes don't apply to all...

I was also hoping for The Moor, Godhead's Lament, or Serenity Painted Death rather than White Cluster, but I was quite happy with the song selection...

I also called them playing The Amen Corner along with the guy sitting in front of me, and when the opening riffs began, he gave me a huge high five...

It's great having experiences like that...sadly, they seem to happen mostly near the front. My section had next to no diehards and not very many people who looked like they would welcome a chat. That, plus my appearence (I'm the least metal-looking kid to ever go to a metal show) made me a little uneasy when it came to just striking up conversation.

Ah well, when I saw Rush I had experiences like that, so hey. :)

EDIT: I'm really suprised that they played The Night and The Silent Water, what with all of them professing their dislike of their song.

Yeah, they said they had never played it live before ever because of it. But they also said they were deliberately trying to find obscure numbers and said it sounded "pretty good" in rehearsals. The drummer wrote some new parts for it, as well, the whole thing sounded MUCH tighter and cohesive, plus Per had some really nice keyboard flourishes. It sounds even more epic than it does on the record.

BurningSky probably heard what Mikael had to say about NATSW better than I did. I was straining to hear. Do you remember, BurningSky?

[BurningSky]

Something along the lines of...(not the exact quote)

"That was from our first album, Orchid, so which one comes next? Morningrise I think. We were unhappy with the production of this album, but a lot of the fans seem to like it a lot. The song we are going to play...we have never played before. We were unhappy with it in the studio, but we tried it out in rehearsals and it sounded pretty good. So here it is, The Night and the Silent Water."

It was something along those lines, no where near what he said exactly...

[Deth]

You both are very lucky. I would love to have seen those songs live.

[Cain]

Yeah, so Mikael's problems were production problems. The same problems I have with Morningrise.

The song sounds MUCH better with the new vocal styles, clean vocal control, keyboards, and tighter, more virtuosic and thick drums. They should really do more Morningrise tunes.

[BurningSky]

Yeah, so Mikael's problems were production problems. The same problems I have with Morningrise.

The song sounds MUCH better with the new vocal styles, clean vocal control, keyboards, and tighter, more virtuosic and thick drums. They should really do more Morningrise tunes.

Yeah, Black Rose Immortal and To Bid You Farewell should definitely make a return...

[Knifeboy]

I hope there's a bootleg of it out there somewhere

[guitrguy]

To bad the show im goign to isn't goign to be an evening with... show.
But I'm still excited as hell to go seem them.

[Jude]

Knifeboy, some people on the Opeth board were mentioning some bootleg someone had, somewhere, of TNATSW, but I haven't seen it yet.

I thought in addition to production, Mike didn't like TNATSW because of all the emotional issues around it (it was written abotu his grandfather's death, etc)

[BlindWriting]

ATTN: OPETH CAREER RETROSPECTIVE CONCERT REVIEW AND SETLIST

Great show, all things considered. The experience tonight was considerably more novel and artistic than the last Opeth show in New York a few months ago. As it took place in Town Hall, a high-class venue just off of Times Square, the show was seated and built around a "sit and appreciate the artistry" motif: there was only standing in the bottom seats, there were no pits, and barely anyone could stop gazing at Opeth onstage long enough to headbang. To a degree, I really missed the unpleasentness of being crammed up against untold bodies between the barrier and the crowd at the last show, for all its discomfort I loved the rush it gave to the music.

Since I was sitting for the whole show, encore excepted, I noticed that this show took on a decidedly head-scratching, analytical air. No doubt that was Opeth's intention, but given their decision to not only play a career retrospective but to deliberately pick obscure, non-fan-favorites I confess myself a teeny bit disappointed. I wanted to get lost in the true highlights off of Morningrise and so on, given that songs off those records are never played anyway. Even so, the power of Opeth live is mind-boggling: one of the benefits to this set construction was the way we could see Opeth's evolution and the true breadth of their compositional artistry, and when confronted with the sheer gravity and volume of music Opeth have created over their twelve-year career, I am amazed. All told, this was an excellent show.

Small critiques and comments of special note: I would have easily taken Black Rose Immortal or two different songs over the twenty-five-million-minute version of "Closure" they did this time around. It was the only point during the concert where I became outright bored, although the drummer and Per had fantastic extended solos in the song. The ballerinas were a rather apathetic experience for me: I was hoping for something awesome, but I'm sorry, there was nothing to convert me to dance's brand of art in this performance set to "Deliverance." Per Wiberg's keyboards were even more well-integrated with the band's sound than at the last show: his Hammond organ sounds and E-bow simulations caused a lot of their darker numbers to increase the ambience and musical depth tenfold. I am very impressed with how well he is becoming an asset to Opeth with his keyboards: very often the notes he played sounded almost like screams, which made the majority of the heavy music INCREDIBLY eerie, and very artsy and progressive-sounding. I was a little disappointed by the setlist, but I understand that the point of the retrospective was to pick more obscure songs rather than fan favorites.

SETLIST FOR THE RETROSPECTIVE:

ORCHID: Under the Weeping Moon
MORNINGRISE: The Night and the Silent Water
MY ARMS, YOUR HEARSE: The Amen Corner
STILL LIFE: White Cluster
BLACKWATER PARK: The Leper Affinity
DELIVERANCE: A Fair Judgement, Deliverance
DAMNATION: Windowpane, Closure
GHOST REVERIES: Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds, The Grand Conjuration
ENCORE: Demon of the Fall
I was at the same show last night. MY GOD, it ruled. The band sounded fantastic (hoping Martin's alright, wherever he is...) and Mikael was hilarious in between songs.

I really liked Per's e-bow simulator as well. That worked fantastically, along with his organ sounds.

The version they played of Closure was great, I thought. The jamming really worked, and I agree, it was a great showcase for the drummer. I love that everyone was expecting the big Middle Eastern section at the end to come, but the band just kept building it up, and finally when it hit everyone went nuts.

That was also the first time I'd heard White Cluster. I loved it, I'm determined to pick up a copy of Still Life now.

It was kind of odd that they played Deliverance, seeing as how the Ballet Deviare danced to it. I wasn't crazy about the opening dance either, but I loved what Mikael said about it.
"Did you guys like the ballet?"
*Cheering.*
"Good, cause we get to party with them afterwards!"
Then some dude in the crowd yells, "What about your wife?!"
Mikael says, "Oh it's alright, she knows I don't dance."

And then some other dude asked if he could take a picture of Mikael and Peter in Swedish. A lot of great interaction between Mikael and the audience.

I was in row H. I could see pretty much everything, except for Per. The only glimpses I caught of him were if he was leaning forward.

I would have loved to see them play When, The Funeral Portrait, and Wreath, but overall the show was amazing. Oh man. So cool.

[i am the robots]

My God, I'm jealous... why do they have to play in Western PA this tour? GO TO PHILLY OR AT LEAST TRENTON!

[Thor]

They played in Raleigh on my birthday and I couldn't go because it was sold out. I'm still kind of mad about it. :(

[^Dream~Theater^]

Ya, I woulda been pretty upset. I still have faith they play play IMSWS..but the faith is growing thin :(

[ok lateralus]

Holy ****, I would KILL to see The Night and the Silent Water live. That is so amazing, man. I think it would be cool if they re-recorded Morningrise, just to see how it would sound with clearer production and new drum and keyboard parts. Still, I think the 1996 version can't be beat but it would be interesting at least

[azbassman]

Holy ****, I would KILL to see The Night and the Silent Water live. That is so amazing, man. I think it would be cool if they re-recorded Morningrise, just to see how it would sound with clearer production and new drum and keyboard parts. Still, I think the 1996 version can't be beat but it would be interesting at least
There playing up in Tempe on March 15...im going to try hard as hell to get tickets to that.

[ok lateralus]

There playing up in Tempe on March 15...im going to try hard as hell to get tickets to that.

Yeah, I wish I could go soo badly but I'm going to be out of town. Sucks even more because I was going to see them last October too, bought my ticket and everything, but they cancelled

[Toaster]

Cool review, Cain. I'd love to see The Amen Corner live.. has anyone here seen them with DT yet? I'm going on the 28th.

[^Dream~Theater^]

Cool review, Cain. I'd love to see The Amen Corner live.. has anyone here seen them with DT yet? I'm going on the 28th.
Where in Canada are you ? I'm seeing them on the 7th in Saskatoon

[azbassman]

Yeah, I wish I could go soo badly but I'm going to be out of town. Sucks even more because I was going to see them last October too, bought my ticket and everything, but they cancelled
Got lucky....the day there here is the one week we have school off. :thumb:

[Toaster]

Where in Canada are you ? I'm seeing them on the 7th in Saskatoon

Ontario.

[Flynn]

ATTN: OPETH CAREER RETROSPECTIVE CONCERT REVIEW AND SETLIST

Great show, all things considered. The experience tonight was considerably more novel and artistic than the last Opeth show in New York a few months ago. As it took place in Town Hall, a high-class venue just off of Times Square, the show was seated and built around a "sit and appreciate the artistry" motif: there was only standing in the bottom seats, there were no pits, and barely anyone could stop gazing at Opeth onstage long enough to headbang. To a degree, I really missed the unpleasentness of being crammed up against untold bodies between the barrier and the crowd at the last show, for all its discomfort I loved the rush it gave to the music.

Since I was sitting for the whole show, encore excepted, I noticed that this show took on a decidedly head-scratching, analytical air. No doubt that was Opeth's intention, but given their decision to not only play a career retrospective but to deliberately pick obscure, non-fan-favorites I confess myself a teeny bit disappointed. I wanted to get lost in the true highlights off of Morningrise and so on, given that songs off those records are never played anyway. Even so, the power of Opeth live is mind-boggling: one of the benefits to this set construction was the way we could see Opeth's evolution and the true breadth of their compositional artistry, and when confronted with the sheer gravity and volume of music Opeth have created over their twelve-year career, I am amazed. All told, this was an excellent show.

Small critiques and comments of special note: I would have easily taken Black Rose Immortal or two different songs over the twenty-five-million-minute version of "Closure" they did this time around. It was the only point during the concert where I became outright bored, although the drummer and Per had fantastic extended solos in the song. The ballerinas were a rather apathetic experience for me: I was hoping for something awesome, but I'm sorry, there was nothing to convert me to dance's brand of art in this performance set to "Deliverance." Per Wiberg's keyboards were even more well-integrated with the band's sound than at the last show: his Hammond organ sounds and E-bow simulations caused a lot of their darker numbers to increase the ambience and musical depth tenfold. I am very impressed with how well he is becoming an asset to Opeth with his keyboards: very often the notes he played sounded almost like screams, which made the majority of the heavy music INCREDIBLY eerie, and very artsy and progressive-sounding. I was a little disappointed by the setlist, but I understand that the point of the retrospective was to pick more obscure songs rather than fan favorites.

SETLIST FOR THE RETROSPECTIVE:

ORCHID: Under the Weeping Moon
MORNINGRISE: The Night and the Silent Water
MY ARMS, YOUR HEARSE: The Amen Corner
STILL LIFE: White Cluster
BLACKWATER PARK: The Leper Affinity
DELIVERANCE: A Fair Judgement, Deliverance
DAMNATION: Windowpane, Closure
GHOST REVERIES: Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds, The Grand Conjuration
ENCORE: Demon of the Fall


Yeah they pretty much did the same thing with Closure when I saw them in 2004, and admittably was the boring spot of the concert, but they didn't play anything from Orchid, Morningrise or My Arms Your Hearse at that show. It was still a good show, but it didn't have as powerful of a track list as I was expecting. The only chance I have of seeing Opeth is on March 4th, in Minneapolis. Still waiting on a few people to decide, hopefully by monday, then I'm going.

By the way, Cain, good review of the show.

[TojesDolan]

Yeah they pretty much did the same thing with Closure when I saw them in 2004, and admittably was the boring spot of the concert,

I think the extended version is a live-must thing going on. I dig the Lamentations version...

:upset:

I mean... It's good right!?!?

:moreupzet:

[Deth]

Yeah they pretty much did the same thing with Closure when I saw them in 2004, and admittably was the boring spot of the concert, but they didn't play anything from Orchid, Morningrise or My Arms Your Hearse at that show. It was still a good show, but it didn't have as powerful of a track list as I was expecting. The only chance I have of seeing Opeth is on March 4th, in Minneapolis. Still waiting on a few people to decide, hopefully by monday, then I'm going.

By the way, Cain, good review of the show.
Are you excluding Demon for obvious reasons, or didn't they play that either?

[Flynn]

Are you excluding Demon for obvious reasons, or didn't they play that either?


No. They didn't play anything from any of those albums, and they only played White Cluster from Still Life. The rest of the show was basically the Deliverance/Damnation works, and some of Blackwater Park.

[Deth]

That's really strange. I would be slightly disappointed.

[Flynn]

Yeah I was kinda disapointed, but the show was really great. I used to hit 3-4 concerts a year, and that was definitely the best concert I've ever been to. If everything goes according to plan, I'll be able to see them March 4th with that awesome setlist!

[Shadows]

I've been on such an Orchid binge lately. :( In Mist she Was Standing is such a musical orgasm.

/random courtesy post

[uberphreak]

When I say "Best" I mean Opinions. Opeth Is my "Best" Always will be.

If you never heard Opeth before I will give a list of songs to DL.


Black Rose Immortal :thumb:
To Bid You Farewell
The Twilight Is My Robe
Karma
When
Credence
Face of Melinda
The Moor
Still Day Beneath The Sun
Advent
The Night And The Silent Water
In Mist She Was Standing
The Apostle In Triumph
Hope Leaves
The Masters Apprentices
Bleak :thumb:
Serenity Painted Death :evil:
April Ethereal
Demon Of The Fall



:Note: These tracks are in no order of Importance or favor.
Except Black Rose Immortal :)

*clutches chest* you've got to include The Drapery Falls on there! <3 that song

[Deth]

:lol: That's one old post there. Welcome to the thread buddy.

Bleak > The Drapery Falls anyway :p

[Flynn]

ahh the memories :')

[Shadows]

Hey Flynn, I know this is old as hell, but this post interested me:

I despise Metallica, In fact I LOATHE them. I should'nt capitalize the "m" in metallica anymore cause that would give that name respect...I would want that now...
Why the M(m?)etallica hate?

[azbassman]

The only Opeth album im missing now is Ghost Reveries. Thought id get the others before Ghost Reveries. Favorite album-Still Life, Song-Serenity Painted Death.

[Stormrider]

I've been on such an Orchid binge lately. :( In Mist she Was Standing is such a musical orgasm.

/random courtesy post

Such a great song.

/puts it on

I want that album badly :(