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I do indeed. I won't be able to trade right now, but if you give me a day or so I can YSI if you like.
Crysiss
02-11-2006, 10:05 PM
I do indeed. I won't be able to trade right now, but if you give me a day or so I can YSI if you like.
Mind sending a link my way?
nightrise713@gmail.com
I only plan on downloading requiem
ok lateralus
02-11-2006, 10:05 PM
Does anyone here have Orchid? If so I would really like to trade for it.
Ill trade with you on AIM. my aim is m0rningrise
Crysiss
02-11-2006, 10:10 PM
:upset:
/feels left out
Stormrider
02-11-2006, 10:12 PM
24.99 is a decent price.
Yes, but then theres 15% tax. Well, where I live.
Darkness
02-11-2006, 10:21 PM
I was going to say im Canadian but i see you are too :lol:
The reason it was 45$ was because it was HMV. I usually buy CDs From A&B music but i think it closed down. And they didnt have orchid at CD plus, so i just bought a wintersun CD.
HMV sucks
Where are you at in Canada? Thats the exact situation that happened to me, except my Orchid was a little cheaper. CD Plus is usually the best for me, but their selection just can't compare, but the prices blow HMVs away.
ok lateralus
02-11-2006, 10:25 PM
I know this has probably been done here before, but what is your least favorite Opeth "epic" song? "Epic" as in not including the short instrumentals.
I would say The Grand Conjuration. Whereas other Opeth songs like Dirge or SPD just don't do that much for me, they're still very pleasant and not bad or anything. But TGC is what worries me about Opeth's newest direction. It seems so prepackaged for MTV2 and all the mainstream metal scene, it's really sad. Plus, they repeat the main riff too much and overall it's way too simple and boring.
i am the robots
02-11-2006, 10:28 PM
My least favorite Opeth song basically. All of their stuff is pretty epic sounding. it's hard to say, I can't think of even a least favorite, with Opeth there's the ones I really like, and then the very-slightly-less-good-ones.
I know this has probably been done here before, but what is your least favorite Opeth "epic" song? "Epic" as in not including the short instrumentals.
I would say The Grand Conjuration. Whereas other Opeth songs like Dirge or SPD just don't do that much for me, they're still very pleasant and not bad or anything. But TGC is what worries me about Opeth's newest direction. It seems so prepackaged for MTV2 and all the mainstream metal scene, it's really sad. Plus, they repeat the main riff too much and overall it's way too simple and boring.
I still don't get how anything about TGC is "prepacked for MTV and the mainstream metal scene."
My least favorite epic song...probably Dirge for November.
MidnightRider
02-12-2006, 12:39 AM
My least favorite would probably be The Funeral Portrait or The Baying of The Hounds. The riffage in TFP just annoys me and the lyrics in TBOTH seem kind of cheesy to me.
I hear the baying of the hounds, in the distance, I hear them devouring..
I mean come on, have any of you ever been hunting with dogs? They do nothing of the sort.
Neurotripsicks
02-12-2006, 02:02 AM
I know this has probably been done here before, but what is your least favorite Opeth "epic" song? "Epic" as in not including the short instrumentals,
you need a hobby
Crysiss
02-12-2006, 02:59 AM
Where are you at in Canada? Thats the exact situation that happened to me, except my Orchid was a little cheaper. CD Plus is usually the best for me, but their selection just can't compare, but the prices blow HMVs away.
I stated where i was from a few posts ago. NW Ontario.
I find that the CD plus i go has much more CDs than HMV.
EDIT:
Your the top poster of the thread man
MidnightRider
02-12-2006, 09:05 AM
Today I woke up and put on Morningrise while it was snowing, it was really cool. It really seemed to fit in well with the music.
Shadius
02-12-2006, 09:25 AM
I know this has probably been done here before, but what is your least favorite Opeth "epic" song? "Epic" as in not including the short instrumentals.
I would say The Grand Conjuration. Whereas other Opeth songs like Dirge or SPD just don't do that much for me, they're still very pleasant and not bad or anything. But TGC is what worries me about Opeth's newest direction. It seems so prepackaged for MTV2 and all the mainstream metal scene, it's really sad. Plus, they repeat the main riff too much and overall it's way too simple and boring.
Probably (Not including Orchid, because I'm still not entirely sure where this album stands alongside the others) Blackwater Park. I actually don't like the song all that much, oddly. Even though some riffs are cool, overall I just havn't really gotten into it.
Blackwater Park is a weird album for me; I think it contains some of Opeth's very best songs, and some of Opeths very most mediocre or flawed.
Opeth songs i'm the least fond of would be the last two or three "epic" songs off Blackwater Park. Though they are decent songs in places.
Whale and Wasp
02-12-2006, 11:23 AM
Today I woke up and put on Morningrise while it was snowing, it was really cool. It really seemed to fit in well with the music.
:D thats awesome, same happened to me when i was listening to apostle in triumph
Blackwater Park is a weird album for me; I think it contains some of Opeth's very best songs, and some of Opeths very most mediocre or flawed.
Agreed. That's a big part of why it's not quite in the running for best Opeth album for me. It has some fantastic songs but some parts (basically from somewhere in the middle of Drapery through TFP) that are downright mediocre.
Moses
02-12-2006, 12:35 PM
Agreed. That's a big part of why it's not quite in the running for best Opeth album for me. It has some fantastic songs but some parts (basically from somewhere in the middle of Drapery through TFP) that are downright mediocre.
It's my favorite Opeth album. I don't consider any of the songs on there mediocre...
It's my favorite Opeth album. I don't consider any of the songs on there mediocre...
I dunno, Dirge For November seems really dull to me, TDF kind of gets blah towards the middle/end, and Funeral Portrait is cool but doesn't really stick out.
The other albums that would be in the running for best in my book are Still Life and Morningrise, and neither of those really have any parts that are weak or dull. Blackwater Park has some of Opeth's best ever songs on it, but it isn't as consistent.
Moses
02-12-2006, 01:15 PM
I dunno, Dirge For November seems really dull to me, TDF kind of gets blah towards the middle/end, and Funeral Portrait is cool but doesn't really stick out.
I love all those songs though...
The other albums that would be in the running for best in my book are Still Life and Morningrise, and neither of those really have any parts that are weak or dull. Blackwater Park has some of Opeth's best ever songs on it, but it isn't as consistent.
Morningrise has too much amaturish songwriting on it for me. I think they just tried to hard for all epic songs. Still Life is my second favorite though.
MidnightRider
02-12-2006, 01:19 PM
I dunno, Dirge For November seems really dull to me, TDF kind of gets blah towards the middle/end, and Funeral Portrait is cool but doesn't really stick out.
I don't understand all the Dirge hate, it starts off with one of Opeth's most beautiful acoustic selections and then goes into an insane riff with some of the best growls on the album.
I don't understand all the Dirge hate, it starts off with one of Opeth's most beautiful acoustic selections and then goes into an insane riff with some of the best growls on the album.
Right. One of my favorites on the album.
I love all those songs though...
Morningrise has too much amaturish songwriting on it for me. I think they just tried to hard for all epic songs. Still Life is my second favorite though.
Oh Morningrise definitely has amateurish songwriting, but I still love it and there's barely any part of the album that I don't like.
TojesDolan
02-12-2006, 01:38 PM
I realize that Deliverance isn't badly written, (the album, I mean) but seems to be the least metaphorical.
Blackwater Park is the most complex, metaphorical album of the whole pack.
ok lateralus
02-12-2006, 02:03 PM
I love Deliverance, but it is a little boring in comparison to BWP or Still Life- not very colorful if you know what I mean. Its a fantastic album, just doesn't have as much atmosphere as most Opeth.
Shattered_Future
02-12-2006, 03:27 PM
Least favorite song...probably The Drapery Falls. It takes a ridiculously long time to start, and doesn't do much for me.
Moses
02-12-2006, 03:29 PM
Least favorite song...probably The Drapery Falls. It takes a ridiculously long time to start, and doesn't do much for me.
That's one of my favorites.
Darkness
02-12-2006, 03:30 PM
That's one of my favorites.
Mine to, that last growled verse is incredible IMO, such power and emotion. Rivaled only by the last 2 lines in Blackwater Park. :thumb:
ok lateralus
02-12-2006, 03:34 PM
Yeah, The Drapery Falls is a classic. The D minor to C acoustic part at the end is so amazing
Darkness
02-12-2006, 04:06 PM
I believe Mikeal called that "the easiest riff ever". :p But yeah, still sounds really nice.
ok lateralus
02-12-2006, 04:22 PM
Yeah, it is simple, but it's so unexpected that it's awesome
TojesDolan
02-12-2006, 04:51 PM
hmm... The drapery falls takes too much to begin, but indeed, it's a beautiful song.
Among the songs I dislike, I guess... I'm not too fond of the funeral portrait. And sometimes "the baying of the hounds" isn't my favorite song.
Crysiss
02-12-2006, 05:44 PM
The only song i dont like is (Reverie harlequin forest. Very boring IMO
Another song that doesn't quite do it for me is The Night And The Silent Water.
hmm... The drapery falls takes too much to begin, but indeed, it's a beautiful song.
Yea, first time i heard it, it was taking a helluva long time to get me into it, but it gets progressively better over a few minutes. I like that old school riff with the power chords n all.
Toaster
02-12-2006, 06:52 PM
The Drapery Falls is great. The only problem I have with it is that the intro is the best part of the song.
I think my least favourite would be A Fair Judgement. It has some nice sounding parts, but it's the only Opeth song I don't feel like listening to once I put it on.
Stormrider
02-12-2006, 07:08 PM
I'm not that much into A Fair Judement either...
^Dream~Theater^
02-12-2006, 07:12 PM
I actually love Dirge, Spd and Tdf. I've been listening to In mist she was standing quite a bit lately, What's your guy's thoughts and opinions on that? I think it's a brilliant song but thats just me.
Stormrider
02-12-2006, 07:13 PM
In Mist She Was Standing is a Brilliant song.
The first I heard from Orchid though was The Twilight is my Robe. Which is another very good song. Sadly, their the only 2 I know from the album...But this hasnt stopped me of wanting the album badly.
Acidflux
02-12-2006, 07:19 PM
I actually love Dirge, Spd and Tdf. I've been listening to In mist she was standing quite a bit lately, What's your guy's thoughts and opinions on that? I think it's a brilliant song but thats just me.
I love In Mist She Was Standing. It's a great song to play along to, not to mention the lyrics give me chills. I especially like the ending acoustic riff before the outro, some good music.
Stormrider
02-12-2006, 07:25 PM
I love In Mist She Was Standing. It's a great song to play along to. I especially like the ending acoustic riff before the outro, some good music.
Heh, yup :)
Welcome to the forums.
Acidflux
02-12-2006, 07:31 PM
Heh, yup :)
Welcome to the forums.
Hey thanks! My account was hacked, had to start over. :)
Hey thanks! My account was hacked, had to start over. :)
Who were you before?
Acidflux
02-12-2006, 10:42 PM
Who were you before?
I'd rather not say. Someone has been going on my account and ruined everything for me. First, my brother went on and posted some crap to ruin my rep, but I think someone else actually hacked it last night. It's all good, I've been on MX for a couple years, post count means nothing to me. :)
I'd rather not say. Someone has been going on my account and ruined everything for me. First, my brother went on and posted some crap to ruin my rep, but I think someone else actually hacked it last night. It's all good, I've been on MX for a couple years, post count means nothing to me. :)
But now I'm all curious :upset:
Knifeboy
02-13-2006, 10:18 AM
It's not really that well hidden considering you have the same usertitle as your old user :p
Artemician
02-13-2006, 01:18 PM
My least favorite song'd probably be The Funeral Portrait. It has a few good parts but just overall doesn't do much for me. It's usually the skippable one. Come to think of it, When I'm listening to the whole album, I either completely tune out during this one or just basically wait for Patterns in the Ivy to begin.
...And on that note, am I the only one who completely loves Patterns in the Ivy? I have a habit of listening to it on repeat over and over again. Makes me wish I had the Blackwater Park with the bonus tracks, so I could listen to part two.
I don't think Patterns in the Ivy is THAT great...it's a nice little interlude and a cool intro to the epic beginning of Blackwater Park but in itself it isn't all that creative or interesting.
Knifeboy
02-13-2006, 01:43 PM
When I first got Blackwater Park I thought Patterns in the ivy, was the most amazing song ever for a few weeks
Its a good build up to Blackwater Park. I never play BP withought playing Patterns In The Ivy first.
Also a cool lil song to play on acoustic when it's quiet at night...
guitrguy
02-13-2006, 03:07 PM
My Opeth ticket just came in. :D I'm extremely excited for the show.
That reminds me, I have to check when they will release the tickets for the show in Stockholm...
ok lateralus
02-13-2006, 05:18 PM
I love In Mist She Was Standing. It's a great song to play along to, not to mention the lyrics give me chills. I especially like the ending acoustic riff before the outro, some good music.
Indeed, it is one of Opeth's best songs. The last 2-3 minutes after the acoustic break is some of the best, most beautiful music I've ever heard. I know I've mentioned that a lot in here
Acidflux
02-13-2006, 06:35 PM
Indeed, it is one of Opeth's best songs. The last 2-3 minutes after the acoustic break is some of the best, most beautiful music I've ever heard. I know I've mentioned that a lot in here
Yes we both have :) Hardly ever see people talk about that particular segment.
Shattered_Future
02-13-2006, 06:48 PM
How many days now...11 days. Yes. :cool:
Wow, Still Life was loads better than I previously thought...
Acidflux
02-13-2006, 06:54 PM
How many days now...11 days. Yes. :cool:
Wow, Still Life was loads better than I previously thought...
I told you! :chug: It's one great solid album.
Crysiss
02-13-2006, 06:59 PM
It's not really that well hidden considering you have the same usertitle as your old user :p
I know who it is. And i do remember he was being quite a d!ck, I was starting to not like him for awhile, but welcome back man
Acidflux
02-13-2006, 07:04 PM
I know who it is. And i do remember he was being quite a d!ck, I was starting to not like him for awhile, but welcome back man
I apologize for anything disrespectful. I took care of it though. I know who it is and got some Vindication. :p
MidnightRider
02-13-2006, 08:04 PM
...And on that note, am I the only one who completely loves Patterns in the Ivy? I have a habit of listening to it on repeat over and over again. Makes me wish I had the Blackwater Park with the bonus tracks, so I could listen to part two.
I love Patterns In The Ivy, it makes me think of waterfalls for some reason, it's so peaceful.
And Patterns In The Ivy Pt. 2 is pretty cool, but not as good as the first.
ok lateralus
02-13-2006, 08:15 PM
Yes we both have :) Hardly ever see people talk about that particular segment.
Yeah, it's amazing... they never did anything like that again. It's like triumphant, yet sad.... those twin harmonies are just so beautiful.
Acidflux
02-13-2006, 08:20 PM
Yeah, it's amazing... they never did anything like that again. It's like triumphant, yet sad.... those twin harmonies are just so beautiful.
It sounds almost like Renaissance, it's a great feel for that song, especially when it's played. :)
ok lateralus
02-13-2006, 08:29 PM
It sounds almost like Renaissance, it's a great feel for that song, especially when it's played. :)
Hey, I just realized who you are ;)
One of the other great harmony parts in the song is the whole beginning stretch of instrumentation. It's unlike anything I've heard- classical, very colorful, slightly dark, and heavy at the same time
Acidflux
02-13-2006, 08:36 PM
Hey, I just realized who you are ;)
One of the other great harmony parts in the song is the whole beginning stretch of instrumentation. It's unlike anything I've heard- classical, very colorful, slightly dark, and heavy at the same time
Yes indeed. This is why I absolutely love Orchid. I never get sick of any song from that album.
:lol: Yeah, that comment gave it away. Nice to see you stick around though.
Acidflux
02-13-2006, 09:03 PM
:lol: Yeah, that comment gave it away. Nice to see you stick around though.
Gave what away? I'm a MX noob, I don't know what you're talking about. :p
Darkness
02-13-2006, 09:04 PM
The Fragments avatar gave it away to, since you're the only hardcore fan on here. :D
Some of you may have seen the list of summer festivals on the website... but if not, go check em out.
Stormrider
02-13-2006, 09:10 PM
I feel like repeating myself. The other day I saw Orchid in stores and did not buy it. I was short on money...I should have, it was the first Opeth album I wanted.
NP - To bid You Farewell
Darkness
02-13-2006, 09:11 PM
^ Yeah, that was a mistake dude... excellent album indeed. Very powerfull...
Have you heard anything off of it?
Stormrider
02-13-2006, 09:13 PM
^ Yeah, that was a mistake dude... excellent album indeed. Very powerfull...
Have you heard anything off of it?
Yeah, In Mist She Was Standing and The Twilight is my Robe. Both excellent songs. And yes it was a mistake...
Acidflux
02-13-2006, 09:18 PM
I apologize to everyone for my rep and all the crap fake posts in here and many other threads on MX. I found out who was on my account and got my revenge. That's all that matters. I don't care if anyone on MX thinks I would be stupid enough to type all that retarded BS that was posted on my main account. The people that know it wasn't me, know my posts and I am greatful to have talked to you about this. You know who you are.
Crysiss
02-13-2006, 11:13 PM
I apologize to everyone for my rep and all the crap fake posts in here and many other threads on MX. I found out who was on my account and got my revenge. That's all that matters. I don't care if anyone on MX thinks I would be stupid enough to type all that retarded BS that was posted on my main account. The people that know it wasn't me, know my posts and I am greatful to have talked to you about this. You know who you are.
I remember in the pit, there was a thread titled Vodka and Beer tracers and you were like
its beer CHASERS Idiot
haha, that was actually pretty funny
janyeno
02-14-2006, 11:22 AM
Hey... i have an opeth ticket for sale... at Recher Theater in maryland on the 17th of FEB... Looking to sell for negotiable price... I believe show is sold out.
penelope weird hands
02-14-2006, 11:27 AM
Greetings, Opethians!
Just felt the need to express my admiration for this band because of how much they have influenced me musically.
Been playing to some selected riffs and one i've been obsessed with, for quite some time now, is the third riff on Closure.
Fvcking badass.
I love playing that on an acoustic guitar.
But anyway.. With me being a n00b and all i'd like to spark some n00b discussion.. ;}
What would everyones' favourite Opeth riffs be?
Maybe top 3 or something?
Include solos if you like.
..Or you could not reply at all.
Then I would be sad. ;{
heh..
But I think it'll be interesting because there's always much love for songs.. but not as much expressed in the detail of certain arrangements and parts.
My 3, for the moment, would have to be that aforementioned riff from Closure (~1:07), the end of The Leper Affinity (~8:01 onwards, amazing!) and the acoustic guitar of Serenity Painted Death (~8:06 onwards, the fingerpicking timing breaks my mind).
Just brilliant stuff!
:chug:
It's hard to pick favorite riffs, but off the top of my head....
The second main riff in Black Rose Immortal, it goes electric-acoustic-electric with variations on the same riff.
The main riff on April Ethereal....jah JAAAAAAAAAH jah JAAAAAAaaaaaah
The opening acoustic/electric riff of The Moor.
JamJar
02-14-2006, 11:47 AM
Top 3 riffs:
"White face, haggard grin" part of Serenity Painted Death. Possibly the greatest use of a pinched harmonic ever.
The intro to Karma. I just really like it for some reason
The 2nd riff of White Cluster. It just sounds really evil.
Crysiss
02-14-2006, 02:20 PM
Top 3 Riffs
The Drapery Falls - At about 6 50
Deliverance - Opening Riff
Ghost Of Perdition - The first riffs with all those octaves
Hells Bells
02-14-2006, 02:37 PM
Yes indeed. This is why I absolutely love Orchid. I never get sick of any song from that album.
Oh! haha now I know who you are ;)
Favourite Riffs?
The first acoustic break in Blackwater Park, and the heavy riff with the same melody that follows it, the clean break that starts at 2:50
The intros to The Drapery Falls and Dirge for November
That spanish-type acoustic break in the Moor
The main riff in The Master's Apprentice
In the Mist She Was Standing - 8:50-9:20
Bleak...the main riff, the acoustic breaks, and that riff at the very end, the one with the fuzzy production
MidnightRider
02-14-2006, 02:47 PM
Top 3 riffs:
The Leper Affinity - The very first riff
Dirge For November - The acoustic intro
Bleak - The riff where Wilson comes in on vocals.
Yes, I love BWP. :)
Acidflux
02-14-2006, 06:59 PM
Top 3 Riffs:
Number 3: Even though I didn't really get into Ghost Reveries that much, one of the coolest riffs I've ever heard is on the song The Baying Of The Hounds. At around 9:44 to around 10:14. That riff is badass.
Number 2: If there was one riff I had to listen to for eternity, it would probably be the outro to Credence . At around 4:00, that riff always takes my mind and makes it wander. Great riff.
Number 1: There are so many to choose from, but I think the acoustic riff on Black Rose Immortal at around 9:43 takes the spot for me. That is seriously the most beautiful acoustic riff I've ever heard.
Stormrider
02-14-2006, 07:02 PM
There are a lot of good riffs in Black Rose Immortal. But if I remember correctly which riff you're talking about, then yes that is a beautiful acoustic riff.
/will put on Black Rose Immortal after A Question of Heaven.
i am the robots
02-14-2006, 07:16 PM
The part where it's like doo-doo-doo-dum-dum-doo-doo-doo-dum-deedy-dum?
TojesDolan
02-14-2006, 07:18 PM
Riuffz!1!!
Number one: I like The leper Affinity intro, it's quite teh evile, great sounding riff. Probably one of my favoritest riffs out of Blackwater Park.
Number two: The intro to Wreath. Very... yeah!
Number three: Let me think of one... In "face of Melinda", the acoustic part before the chorus, after the verse finishes... Pretty amazing.
Acidflux
02-14-2006, 07:22 PM
The part where it's like doo-doo-doo-dum-dum-doo-doo-doo-dum-deedy-dum?
lmao yeah!
Stormrider
02-14-2006, 07:24 PM
So yes I do remember correctly. I love playing that whole section of acoustic.
I also like the first acoustic riff of the song.
NP Black Rose Immortal
Crysiss
02-14-2006, 07:28 PM
Three Parts that give me the chills
3.Windowpane - solo
2. The Chorus part of In My Time Of Need
1. To Bid You Farewell, The part where mikael Sings
We Walked Into the Night
Am I To Bid u farewell
Why can't you see that i try
When ever tear i shed is for you
Np. The Drapery Falls
i am the robots
02-14-2006, 07:28 PM
Anyhow Top 3 Opeth Riffs:
Number One: the opening riff of April Ethereal
Number Two: the main riff of Master's Apprentices
Number Three: the opening riff of Advent
:cool:
Acidflux
02-14-2006, 07:29 PM
So yes I do remember correctly. I love playing that whole section of acoustic.
haha yeah that's awesome to play. I play that riff at music stores when I'm checking out acoustic guitars a lot.
Stormrider
02-14-2006, 07:33 PM
haha yeah that's awesome to play. I play that riff at music stores when I'm checking out acoustic guitars a lot.
I love playing Opeth's acoustic stuff on my acoustic.
Have you learned the whole song ?
2. The Chorus part of In My Time Of Need
I absolutely love that chorus.
NP - To Bid You Farewell
Acidflux
02-14-2006, 07:37 PM
I love playing Opeth's acoustic stuff on my acoustic.
Have you learned the whole song ?
Oh yeah, a while ago. It's satisfying playing along with it all the way through. I haven't played with it for a while though, I've been practicing Symbolic, almost to Misanthrope.
N.P. Furnace Funeral ~ Bloodbath
Crysiss
02-14-2006, 07:39 PM
I love playing Opeth's acoustic stuff on my acoustic.
Have you learned the whole song ?
NP - To Bid You Farewell
I know the majority of the song, About half the song but both guitar parts. I usually learn a riff from that song like once every two weeks.
I can't right now because when i bought strings, There was only 5 in there. So i was thinking meh, at least i bought two packs. I opened up the 2nd pack and the same string was missing. The nearest place i could buy strings is an hour away.
Stormrider
02-14-2006, 07:41 PM
Oh yeah, a while ago. It's satisfying playing along with it all the way through. I haven't played with it for a while though, I've been practicing Symbolic, almost to Misanthrope.
N.P. Furnace Funeral ~ Bloodbath
I'm at the 14 minute mark.
Misanthrope ?
To Aphotic: I didnt learn both guitar parts. I switch guitars every now and then. So it's not like always guitar 1 for example.
Acidflux
02-14-2006, 07:44 PM
I'm at the 14 minute mark.
Misanthrope ?
Yeah, it's track #8 off of the Death album Symbolic. I'm almost done with Crystal Mountain. Working on the leads. Just as far as playing along with songs. After that, I'm going to My Arms, Your Hearse. :)
Darkness
02-14-2006, 07:46 PM
I'll just say my number one.
The main electric riff in Face Of Melinda. :D
TojesDolan
02-14-2006, 07:47 PM
Three Parts that give me the chills
3.Windowpane - solo
Specific?
My guess is that you like the last one.
Stormrider
02-14-2006, 07:48 PM
Yeah, it's track #8 off of the Death album Symbolic. I'm almost done with Crystal Mountain. Working on the leads. Just as far as playing along with songs. After that, I'm going to My Arms, Your Hearse. :)
Oh, you're learning a whole Death album ?
After Back Rose Immortal, I've thought of maybe learning Advent...still not sure.
Acidflux
02-14-2006, 07:50 PM
I'll just say my number one.
The main electric riff in Face Of Melinda. :D
The pre-chorus guitars? Yeah, that's a cool riff. I especially like the outro to Face Of Melinda. It's mesmerizing.
Oh, you're learning a whole Death album ?
Haha trying to man, the solos are working me. :p
Advent is so fun on bass. We should cover it.
Stormrider
02-14-2006, 07:53 PM
Haha trying to man, the solos are working me. :p
Hehe, I'm not a lead person. So I only learn a solo that I realy realy like...with out it being too hard.
And Deth, who would do vocals ? :p
/goes looks at Advent tab.
EDIT: Crap, something is wrong with 911tabs..
I have a cool tab I can send you if you would like.
I could give vocals a try, I'm alright with the old Opeth style.
Stormrider
02-14-2006, 08:00 PM
Is it a power tab ?
If so I'de apreciate it but I don't have powertab editor yet because I'm using my new computer...so theres nothign on it yet, and I have to wait before I do anything. Thanks though.
And thats cool. I suck at growling...or at singing in general for that matter :p
Months of tearing my throat apart have helped my growling immensely. I still can't hit the ultra-low growls, but I can make my way through a song like The Moor.
Crysiss
02-14-2006, 08:04 PM
Specific?
My guess is that you like the last one.
I forgot there was two solos for a bit lol. Yes, the clean solo is beautiful
Months of tearing my throat apart have helped my growling immensely. I still can't hit the ultra-low growls, but I can make my way through a song like The Moor.
I read an interview from a death metal singer and he said that your throat shouldn't be hurting when your growling.
And his pointers for getting extra low growls is drinking milk with honey in it i think.
It doesn't hurt anymore, but when I started it hurt like a bitch. I'm probably doing something wrong, but whatever.
Acidflux
02-14-2006, 08:09 PM
It doesn't hurt anymore, but when I started it hurt like a bitch. I'm probably doing something wrong, but whatever.
Do you smoke?
Hells no. I'm 100% clean.
No need to tell me I'm doing it all wrong, I know :p.
Acidflux
02-14-2006, 08:16 PM
Hells no. I'm 100% clean.
No need to tell me I'm doing it all wrong, I know :p.
:lol: No man, I didn't mean that. I used to smoke, but I could scream really good ...but now that I quit, I hardly have a voice in that department anymore. I haven't had a Cigarette in almost a year and a half. Just curious is all. :)
Stormrider
02-14-2006, 08:17 PM
Arent you suppose to use your stomach muscles or something ?
Acidflux
02-14-2006, 08:20 PM
I have no vocal chords left. I smoked too much.
Stormrider
02-14-2006, 08:22 PM
Heh, I wasnt directing that towards you. Its just that I had heard that for proper growling, you were suppose to use your stomach muscles..
But besides, don't mind me, I don't know much anyways about proper growling :p
Darkness
02-14-2006, 08:22 PM
The pre-chorus guitars? Yeah, that's a cool riff. I especially like the outro to Face Of Melinda. It's mesmerizing.
The one right at 4:38. :thumb:
Flynn
02-14-2006, 08:35 PM
The one right at 4:38. :thumb:
Yeah, I like the outro riff a lot too. The twin leads on that song are really nice.
Damn it Flynn, you're confusing me now.
Darkness
02-14-2006, 08:39 PM
Yeah... which account are you using...
Flynn
02-14-2006, 08:42 PM
Damn it Flynn, you're confusing me now.
I might as well post with my main account, I can't merge yet :mad: Plus everyone knows it's me...
I won't get hacked again.
nobodyblossomsforever
02-14-2006, 08:44 PM
:lol: No man, I didn't mean that. I used to smoke, but I could scream really good ...but now that I quit, I hardly have a voice in that department anymore. I haven't had a Cigarette in almost a year and a half. Just curious is all. :)
How could you have ever wanted to smoke before? I've always found I nice bottle of Dr. Pepper is more refreshing than smoke and ashes in my mouth.
NP: Opeth - Forest of October
ok lateralus
02-14-2006, 09:04 PM
I have no vocal chords left. I smoked too much.
Ah, lol I guess I should stop before it's too late
Flynn
02-14-2006, 09:05 PM
I recently found out my Brother has been getting on my account more then a couple of times. Now that I've read through hundreds of posts, I know he's been on my account frequently. He comes in my house when I'm not home and thinks it's funny to get on my account and ruin my rep on MX. It's all good though, I changed the locks and pawned off his Metallica Collection for beer. So again, I apologize for any disrespectful/ignorant posts on this user.
ok lateralus
02-14-2006, 09:06 PM
Three Parts that give me the chills
3.Windowpane - solo
2. The Chorus part of In My Time Of Need
1. To Bid You Farewell, The part where mikael Sings
We Walked Into the Night
Am I To Bid u farewell
Why can't you see that i try
When ever tear i shed is for you
Np. The Drapery Falls
Yes! I agree with all three, amazing stuff
pawned off his Metallica Collection for beer.
:lol:
Darkness
02-14-2006, 09:10 PM
:lol:
I laughed when I heard that the other day to. :lol:
Flynn
02-14-2006, 09:14 PM
He called me ''Dude where are my Metallica CD's!?'' I said 'Oh, I thought it was funny to just go pawn them off. Sorry man, your door was unlocked.''
nobodyblossomsforever
02-14-2006, 09:15 PM
I recently found out my Brother has been getting on my account more then a couple of times. Now that I've read through hundreds of posts, I know he's been on my account frequently. He comes in my house when I'm not home and thinks it's funny to get on my account and ruin my rep on MX. It's all good though, I changed the locks and pawned off his Metallica Collection for beer. So again, I apologize for any disrespectful/ignorant posts on this user.
:lol: brpwned
He called me ''Dude where are my Metallica CD's!?'' I said 'Oh, I thought it was funny to just go pawn them off. Sorry man, your door was unlocked.''
Ouch, man, ouch.
If you end up fighting him, be sure to tape it and post it on MX for the benefit of the community.
Stormrider
02-14-2006, 09:22 PM
So Flynn, was it you who posted in the Metallica thread or your brother ?
Just curious...
TojesDolan
02-14-2006, 09:27 PM
He, brothers.
So it's all good now? I haven't seen you go all drunken pirate around. Probably I've just been luckylucky
Flynn
02-14-2006, 10:06 PM
So Flynn, was it you who posted in the Metallica thread or your brother ?
Just curious...
I have posted in that thread yes.
bball_1523
02-14-2006, 10:31 PM
so who's going to the LA evening with show on march 14? I'll be on the side of the 3rd section on the floor.
Flynn
02-15-2006, 08:20 PM
Riuffz!1!!
Number one: I like The leper Affinity intro, it's quite teh evile, great sounding riff. Probably one of my favoritest riffs out of Blackwater Park.
Number two: The intro to Wreath. Very... yeah!
Number three: Let me think of one... In "face of Melinda", the acoustic part before the chorus, after the verse finishes... Pretty amazing.
Yeah Wreath is tight, it's a great way to start out that album indeed.
Shattered_Future
02-15-2006, 08:53 PM
Man, 9 damn days...can't wait. :D
guitrguy
02-15-2006, 08:54 PM
I still have a month from sunday.
The Cynic
02-15-2006, 08:55 PM
They're not coming here so I can't go. :angry:
Whale and Wasp
02-15-2006, 09:07 PM
theyre coming here in a few days but i have no possible way of going
/sniff
Whale and Wasp
02-15-2006, 09:10 PM
Greetings, Opethians!
Just felt the need to express my admiration for this band because of how much they have influenced me musically.
Been playing to some selected riffs and one i've been obsessed with, for quite some time now, is the third riff on Closure.
Fvcking badass.
I love playing that on an acoustic guitar.
But anyway.. With me being a n00b and all i'd like to spark some n00b discussion.. ;}
What would everyones' favourite Opeth riffs be?
Maybe top 3 or something?
Include solos if you like.
..Or you could not reply at all.
Then I would be sad. ;{
heh..
But I think it'll be interesting because there's always much love for songs.. but not as much expressed in the detail of certain arrangements and parts.
My 3, for the moment, would have to be that aforementioned riff from Closure (~1:07), the end of The Leper Affinity (~8:01 onwards, amazing!) and the acoustic guitar of Serenity Painted Death (~8:06 onwards, the fingerpicking timing breaks my mind).
Just brilliant stuff!
:chug:
mine would be...(in no particular order)....
the chorus of "harvest"
under the weeping moon - that part after the long acoustic breakdown where it starts building up again.....oohhhh that part is AWESOME! reminds me of a approaching storm
the night and the silent water (the last stanza thing whatever you call it where he whispers)
ps: welcome to the forums!
TojesDolan
02-15-2006, 10:39 PM
I forgot my three favorite acoustic riffs.
1. Bleak, the acoustic breakdown after the chorus. Brilliant acoustic guitar playing.
2. Karma, the acoustic part is the highlight of the song, in my humble opinion.
3. A fair judgement, another fantastic acoustic breakdown that is really fun to play, and listen to... too bad in the Lamentations DVD it's so low-played (at least in the beginning)
matt4
02-16-2006, 09:09 AM
My least favorite would probably be The Funeral Portrait or The Baying of The Hounds. The riffage in TFP just annoys me and the lyrics in TBOTH seem kind of cheesy to me.
I hear the baying of the hounds, in the distance, I hear them devouring..
I mean come on, have any of you ever been hunting with dogs? They do nothing of the sort.
When you go hunting with them, no they don't. You kill the hog (only animal I know of that are truly "bayed" when you hunt them. Deer are just sort of chased). But what do you think wild packs of dogs do? (Or should I say "did"...not too many packs of wild dogs running around anymore). I'm not sure what wolves or Coyotes do, but I'm sure it must be pretty similar.
Toaster
02-16-2006, 09:15 AM
When you go hunting with them, no they don't. You kill the hog (only animal I know of that are truly "bayed" when you hunt them. Deer are just sort of chased). But what do you think wild packs of dogs do? (Or should I say "did"...not too many packs of wild dogs running around anymore). I'm not sure what wolves or Coyotes do, but I'm sure it must be pretty similar.
The song doesn't make a particular reference to hunting dogs.
I can't really pick three favourite Opeth riffs, I think most Opeth riffs are on the same plane of greatness. Not to mention that a song isn't the sum of it's riffs.
Hells Bells
02-16-2006, 09:44 AM
No, it isn't, but everyone has parts of the song that stand out for them over everyone else.
penelope weird hands
02-16-2006, 10:00 AM
I can't really pick three favourite Opeth riffs, I think most Opeth riffs are on the same plane of greatness. Not to mention that a song isn't the sum of it's riffs.
Well sure.. I said.. riffs ... but I mean any arrangements.. aswell as solos.. or drum parts .. just anything specific like that.
Something that really brings you together to make you feel as unique as Opeth make you feel.
A select penultimate as to engage that feeling that you get from Opeth.
Crysiss
02-16-2006, 12:19 PM
The song doesn't make a particular reference to hunting dogs.
I can't really pick three favourite Opeth riffs, I think most Opeth riffs are on the same plane of greatness. Not to mention that a song isn't the sum of it's riffs.
C'mon man. Sure they're great but theres gotta be at least three riffs that makes you quiver.
Otherside
02-16-2006, 03:01 PM
Ghost of Perdition
White Cluster
Drapery Fallls
???
Deliverance
Grand Conjuration
Under a Weeping Moon
Baying of the Hounds
Demon of the Fall(encore)
Setlist from the concert last night, in case anyone was wondering.
TojesDolan
02-16-2006, 03:12 PM
Anything you particularly remember of the "???" song?
Any lyric
Or something
help us out a little here
Otherside
02-16-2006, 03:29 PM
It was mostly acoustic, can't remember any lyrics at all, didn't try to pick any out... was having enough trouble remembering the order of the songs in the first place, especially after the beer :p
Oriah
02-16-2006, 03:54 PM
You are fading from my sight
Break of morning, coldness lingers on
Shroud me into nightmares of the sun
Otherside
02-16-2006, 03:58 PM
Update: I found from someone else who was at the show that the song was Closure. I kind of figured it was from Damnation, which was why I didn't recognize it.
Darkness
02-16-2006, 05:19 PM
Setlist is alright, bit dissappointed actually... I was hopeing for BWP and Face of Melinda... oh well.
^Dream~Theater^
02-16-2006, 05:21 PM
Weak setlist man..Wheres IMSWS!!
Shattered_Future
02-16-2006, 05:23 PM
Man, that is a LAME *** setlist. No Leper Affinity, no Bleak, no Godhead's Lament, no Master's Apprentices...what gives?
Darkness
02-16-2006, 05:23 PM
They can't please everyone... I'm sure it'll still be a killer show...
^Dream~Theater^
02-16-2006, 05:24 PM
I'm so mad about the setlist, hopefully I'll get someone elses setlist and maybe they change it up each night(Hoping)
Otherside
02-16-2006, 06:00 PM
Even if the setlist seem disappointing to you guys, it was a great show. I'm not the biggest fan of the setliest either, but I seriously didn't find a single person who went who didn't love them. One person said they did everything on those songs better live, which I somewhat agree with...
Ghost of Perdition and Grand Conjuration have a much bigger impact live than studio, trust me.
Shattered_Future
02-16-2006, 06:11 PM
Yea, I guess that's true. Even though the setlist is somewhat below par, it's still Opeth. And it's still live.
They DO have a few gems in that setlist though.
TojesDolan
02-16-2006, 06:19 PM
That was good enough for a two-hour show or so. Damn, there's still people complaining on why Lamentations was post-blackwater Park. I Suppose it's all relative. Like EVERYTHING else in life.
On a non-related side note, good to know it was Closure. I prefer the sound of it live. Did they start fooling around after the last sung part, or did they just started playing a riff over and over again...?
Moses
02-16-2006, 06:22 PM
Ghost of Perdition and Grand Conjuration have a much bigger impact live than studio, trust me.
Ghost of Perdition has alot of impact in the studio for too so I guess that's doubleplusgood*.
*Sorry I've been reading 1984 too much.
Otherside
02-16-2006, 06:24 PM
I think they started playing the riff over and over again, for some reason a mosh pit broke out during that part of that song right beside me so I had to watch out for flailing drunk metalheads so I didn't get killed.
That being said, the mosh pit for Demon Of The Fall is intense. Very, very intense.
Shattered_Future
02-16-2006, 06:26 PM
Well, there goes the notion that there won't be a pit for Opeth...
That being said, I feel like moshing this time around...
Otherside
02-16-2006, 06:26 PM
Not a pit for Opeth? Is that possible?
One broke out for every song I think, at one point or another.
And for anyone wondering, I wasn't too impressed with the T-shirt selection... they only had one tour shirt and it was $30, but I ended getting it anyways.
Stormrider
02-16-2006, 06:28 PM
Moshing worries me :(
/has never been to a gig
NP - Dark Moor - By the Strange Path of Destiny
Shattered_Future
02-16-2006, 06:29 PM
Dammit. I was counting on 25 dollar tshirts. :mad:
Oh well, Connecticut doesn't have sales tax on clothing. :)
I got used to moshing at the one concert I went to...just make sure to stay pressed up at the people on the very edge, and you should be fine.
BurningSky
02-16-2006, 06:31 PM
One week until the NY show..\m/
^Dream~Theater^
02-16-2006, 06:31 PM
I managed to get my hands on the MP3 of Closure from last nights show if anyone is interested. Gotta have Msn though;)
BurningSky
02-16-2006, 06:33 PM
I managed to get my hands on the MP3 of Closure from last nights show if anyone is interested. Gotta have Msn though;)
I have trillian, my screen name is Unknown1400...
Stormrider
02-16-2006, 06:35 PM
Dammit. I was counting on 25 dollar tshirts. :mad:
Oh well, Connecticut doesn't have sales tax on clothing. :)
I got used to moshing at the one concert I went to...just make sure to stay pressed up at the people on the very edge, and you should be fine.
Hmm, I will try to get in the front. I'll have to arrive early though.
^Dream~Theater^
02-16-2006, 06:38 PM
I have trillian, my screen name is Unknown1400...
Hence "Gotta have Msn":thumb:
Crysiss
02-16-2006, 06:48 PM
Dude, send me it
nightrise713@hotmail.com
Cardboard Headgear
02-16-2006, 06:54 PM
Out of the times I've seen them, the pit for Deliverance always ends up being funny, just cause of the parts where it's going back and forth between clean and heavy really fast, you know between the "come with me" etc etc parts. Its people swaying to the music and then moshing for a few seconds then back to swaying.
Darkness
02-16-2006, 06:55 PM
Yeah, that kinda happened when I saw em to. :lol:
Crysiss
02-16-2006, 06:56 PM
Out of the times I've seen them, the pit for Deliverance always ends up being funny, just cause of the parts where it's going back and forth between clean and heavy really fast, you know between the "come with me" etc etc parts. Its people swaying to the music and then moshing for a few seconds then back to swaying.
I was looking for that on lamentations haha
TojesDolan
02-16-2006, 07:23 PM
It's funny to see how the kids in the front got "mad-crazey-headbangin'" with Closure. That and Per Wiberg doing it with the keyboards going on... yeah, good times.
I'm interested in the Closure track, Dream Theater. I'm logged on. :)
Shattered_Future
02-16-2006, 07:40 PM
Hmm, I will try to get in the front. I'll have to arrive early though.
Bah, moshpits aren't really that bad if you're not directly in them. Just get bumped a lot.
Hope the NY show is quite interesting. It sure sounds like it.
Stormrider
02-16-2006, 07:48 PM
Bah, moshpits aren't really that bad if you're not directly in them. Just get bumped a lot.
Yeah, I know, but I'm 13. Very easy to get pushed around.
Meh, I'm worrying for nothing :p
NP Sinergy - Razor Blade Salvation ... Weren't you the one who loved bands with female vocals ? If so, check this power metal band out...if you havn't yet.
Shattered_Future
02-16-2006, 08:08 PM
Sinergy bores me. Goss is kind of a crappy vocalist...
It's got Marco though. Can't touch him. :thumb:
Flynn
02-16-2006, 08:18 PM
Out of the times I've seen them, the pit for Deliverance always ends up being funny, just cause of the parts where it's going back and forth between clean and heavy really fast, you know between the "come with me" etc etc parts. Its people swaying to the music and then moshing for a few seconds then back to swaying.
Hahaha yeah, exactly. Except the dude I went with was going berzerk during the entire song, it was hilarious. People were swaying to the melody as he was rampaging through the pit. He actually kissed the ''sun'' logo on the ground at one point. It's kinda sad he doesn't remember the concert, it was a great one. :)
Mr. Ron
02-16-2006, 08:21 PM
I found this on christianforums......it's so ignorant. The thread was about people's opinions on Opeth.
Totally satanic. It is more then obvious just like all metal. Metal bands just tell the media what they do so that they make it seem like a big joke. They know what they are doing and the majority of them have already sold themselves out to the devil in trade for money and fame. They usually have witches or satanist come to the recording studios and put incantations on the cd's and all promotions so that the innocent 14 year old kid who buys the Slayer or Opeth album will open a doorway to the occult and be oppressed and be forever tormented. Then when they play the cd demons manifest and are drawn to the music that gives them the right to operate.
Heavy metal was carefully crafted by Satan to trap America's youth and recruit so many people into serving Satan. So many innocent people just buy cd's because of the phenomenal guitar riffs and the intimidation of the music and get sucked right into occult bondage and so many end up committing suicide or doing extremely heanous crimes.
My prayers go out to Christians who are blinded to what is really going on behind the scenes of the bands and how they are totally sold out to Satan and are just leading America's youth right into bondage and to being enslave to Satan.
How many of you Christians that listen to Satanic music suffer from bad dreams and out of body experiences?
Those dreams and experiences are just doorways that have been opened for the demonic spirit of death to torture you body and to instill fear into your life.
DISCERNMENT- to discover; to recognize; the ability to discover or recognize.
Hebrews 5:14
But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.
We must train our consciences, our senses, and our minds to discern good from evil.
We need to recognize temptation before it traps us?
Let's see here:
Heavy metal that glorifies the sinful nature, the flood of dissipation that pagans endulge in daily, promotes Satan's kingdom of darkness, and the evil desires of the human heart.
Would a Christian discern this music as good or evil?
Praying that the blinders will be removed here and the right discernment will be made.
He cannot be serious. If he is, he's a complete dick.
Mr. Ron
02-16-2006, 08:26 PM
Yeah here's the thread.
http://www.christianforums.com/t2414608-opeth.html
Hells Bells
02-16-2006, 08:26 PM
Oh noes! Watch out for those bad dreams!
/runs and hides
By the way, wouldn't it be easier to use YSI?
Flynn
02-16-2006, 08:39 PM
I found this on christianforums......it's so ignorant. The thread was about people's opinions on Opeth.
Totally satanic. It is more then obvious just like all metal. Metal bands just tell the media what they do so that they make it seem like a big joke. They know what they are doing and the majority of them have already sold themselves out to the devil in trade for money and fame. They usually have witches or satanist come to the recording studios and put incantations on the cd's and all promotions so that the innocent 14 year old kid who buys the Slayer or Opeth album will open a doorway to the occult and be oppressed and be forever tormented. Then when they play the cd demons manifest and are drawn to the music that gives them the right to operate.
Heavy metal was carefully crafted by Satan to trap America's youth and recruit so many people into serving Satan. So many innocent people just buy cd's because of the phenomenal guitar riffs and the intimidation of the music and get sucked right into occult bondage and so many end up committing suicide or doing extremely heanous crimes.
My prayers go out to Christians who are blinded to what is really going on behind the scenes of the bands and how they are totally sold out to Satan and are just leading America's youth right into bondage and to being enslave to Satan.
How many of you Christians that listen to Satanic music suffer from bad dreams and out of body experiences?
Those dreams and experiences are just doorways that have been opened for the demonic spirit of death to torture you body and to instill fear into your life.
DISCERNMENT- to discover; to recognize; the ability to discover or recognize.
Hebrews 5:14
But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.
We must train our consciences, our senses, and our minds to discern good from evil.
We need to recognize temptation before it traps us?
Let's see here:
Heavy metal that glorifies the sinful nature, the flood of dissipation that pagans endulge in daily, promotes Satan's kingdom of darkness, and the evil desires of the human heart.
Would a Christian discern this music as good or evil?
Praying that the blinders will be removed here and the right discernment will be made.
:lol:
Mr. Ron
02-16-2006, 08:47 PM
:lol:
Exactly.
:lol:
Shattered_Future
02-16-2006, 08:49 PM
I read the first sentence. And started cracking up by the part where it said witches and satanists come and put incantations on the cds.
True, Opeth does have some satanic elements to them, but they're quite subtle. And everyone knows nobody's gonna go postal by listening to Opeth.
They're more references to Satan than actual satanism though.
Det_Nosnip
02-16-2006, 09:21 PM
My least favorite would probably be The Funeral Portrait or The Baying of The Hounds. The riffage in TFP just annoys me and the lyrics in TBOTH seem kind of cheesy to me.
I hear the baying of the hounds, in the distance, I hear them devouring..
I mean come on, have any of you ever been hunting with dogs? They do nothing of the sort.
:eek:
Sorry if this is a little late, but I've been out of town and away from the forums. Scrolling through the thread, I came to this, and just had to say something...
Dude, seriously...read the ****ing lyrics book. Mikael is not singing about a pack of pink poodles, here...these are the hounds of hell!
TojesDolan
02-16-2006, 09:21 PM
I read the first sentence. And started cracking up by the part where it said witches and satanists come and put incantations on the cds.
True, Opeth does have some satanic elements to them, but they're quite subtle. And everyone knows nobody's gonna go postal by listening to Opeth.
Apparently they haven't had a chance with Black metal.
On a brighter note, I think the most "satanic" references by Opeth are... mostly located in Ghost Reveries, and they aren't that evil.
I suppose I am a bad christian for liking riffz.
I won't be buried in a proper cemetery. :(
here...these are the hounds of hell!
That cracked me up. :lol:
Cardboard Headgear
02-16-2006, 10:25 PM
Sinergy bores me. Goss is kind of a crappy vocalist...
It's got Marco though. Can't touch him. :thumb:
I agree on all points. Too bad Marco doesn't sing though, at least then it would be a boring band with awesome vocals.
ElectricalStorm
02-17-2006, 12:17 AM
That christianforums post was hilarious. I actually read the first couple pages and was surprised to find most people that posted thereafter disagreed with that user. That guy does produce another gem on page 2 though.
And there is nothing satanic about Opeth at all. The themes, whether they be dark or overtly occult or what have you, only shape the context of the story. Nothing immoral is being glorified in the least. Take the song Deliverence for example, neither murder nor Satan are being promoted(although both are mentioned). They're just elements of the story.
We can even take Ghost Reveries as a whole, I'm sure most of you can agree that it does maintain a loose sense of continuity throughout the album. Does anyone one of you think that it portrays giving your soul to Satan as a desireable thing?
I'm listening to Opeth omfgz!!111!!! GoIn2HElL!
That Christianforums guy got railed on by everyone else in the thread. They backed him up so far that he was basically saying any music which isn't directly praising God is Satanic.
UpperDecker
02-17-2006, 11:35 AM
Opeth do sing about satan. On Deliverance he sings "the devil guides the way" and The Grand Conjuration is about satan as well.
Treebeard
02-17-2006, 01:13 PM
Opeth aren't satanists though. Singing about it or even mentioning it in music doesn't make you a satanistz0rz.
Otherside
02-17-2006, 03:08 PM
Grand Conjuration seems to be more of an anti-satan song to me, much more than a actual satanist song.
His orders in your mouth
A decree for domination
Beneath the tides of wisdom
Spins the undertow of hate
Injected seeds of vengeance
Usurper's eyes of the powerless
Clean path to his kingdom
Beckoning in the mist
If you would consider this praise, I don't know what's wrong with you :\
Tell my why
Love subsides
In the light
Of your wishes
Definitely not satanist, not as far as I see it.
UpperDecker
02-17-2006, 03:13 PM
So when do you think they'll start working on another album?
TojesDolan
02-17-2006, 03:35 PM
Probably they'll use all this year to promote GR, and if they are not into taking long breaks, we may see a new album in mid 07, or late 06.
I guess mid 07 is more like it.
ok lateralus
02-17-2006, 04:35 PM
In regards to the satanism discussion: It's interesting to note that Black Sabbath, one of the most 'evil', dark, heavy bands of all time, the Godfathers of heavy metal, were practically a Christian band. So things are not what they seem
OMG, Tojes postcount is so EVIL. :p
/Has nothing to do with Opeth....sorry.
TojesDolan
02-17-2006, 04:50 PM
Indeed. :p
I left it run for a while. I copeid the scren for further use. :cool:
Crysiss
02-17-2006, 05:06 PM
Probably they'll use all this year to promote GR, and if they are not into taking long breaks, we may see a new album in mid 07, or late 06.
I guess mid 07 is more like it.
Man, i shouldn't be listening to opeth so much. Of all music i listen to, I listen to opeth like 8:1.
I shouldn't be doing that.
^Dream~Theater^
02-17-2006, 07:38 PM
I'm doing the same thing too man, and it's definately working very good.
Cardboard Headgear
02-17-2006, 07:42 PM
I'm doing the same thing too man, and it's definately working very good.
Working very good at what, converting you to the devil's path?
Flynn
02-17-2006, 07:48 PM
:lol:
:lol: The italics are what make that line.
Darkness
02-17-2006, 08:25 PM
Is mx being kinda wierd for anyone else... the top banner is gone, it keeps taking me to this.. parent directory thing..
It's been running smooth for me. It's probably because it doesn't like you, and I can't blame it.
Flynn
02-17-2006, 08:34 PM
Totally satanic. It is more then obvious just like all metal. Metal bands just tell the media what they do so that they make it seem like a big joke. They know what they are doing and the majority of them have already sold themselves out to the devil in trade for money and fame. They usually have witches or satanist come to the recording studios and put incantations on the cd's and all promotions so that the innocent 14 year old kid who buys the Slayer or Opeth album will open a doorway to the occult and be oppressed and be forever tormented. Then when they play the cd demons manifest and are drawn to the music that gives them the right to operate.
Wow, I'm glad I bought all of my Opeth CD's, I could of missed out on the Incantations which make me love Opeth so much, but what about the people that Download Opeth? So many people are missing out on the incantations!!
When I read this I literally laughed for over 20 minutes. Seriously, this dude must be really high up in the music industry to know so much about it or he's a 43 year old night manager at Wendy's who has never been with anyone, collects Diet Dr. Pepper caps, has no kids, and has never read the bible but likes to preach to 15 year old female employees about how God saves and music is the devil to scare them into converting into his psycho babble BS so he feels better at night before he cries his pathetic life to sleep.
ok lateralus
02-17-2006, 08:37 PM
Wow, I'm glad I bought all of my Opeth CD's, I could of missed out on the Incantations which make me love Opeth so much, but what about the people that Download Opeth? So many people are missing out on the incantations!!
When I read this I literally laughed for over 20 minutes. Seriously, this dude must be really high up in the music industry to know so much about it or he's a 43 year old night manager at Wendy's who has never been with anyone, collects Diet Dr. Pepper caps, has no kids, and has never read the bible but likes to preach to 15 year old female employees about how God saves and music is the devil to scare them into converting into his psycho babble BS so he feels better at night before he cries his pathetic life to sleep.
:lol:
probably true about the night manager at Wendy's part
I'm going to say probably to all of the things you listed. I think he just picks the parts of the Bible he likes though.
Flynn
02-17-2006, 08:40 PM
:lol: What about those poor Satanists? Man, they gotta stand in one spot and enchant demonic incantations on each CD that passes by them on the rollers. That would suck! And what if a Satanist/Witch misses one? Do they dock that from their pay? Or do they make them work weekends?
xNerox
02-17-2006, 08:49 PM
haha, i actually registered to leave a post... i just reread it and it's not really very coherent ( i left it at like midnight) but oh well.
a stupid complaint deserves a stupid rebuttle.
Flynn
02-17-2006, 09:17 PM
Welcome to the forums! \m/ -_- \m/
Darkness
02-17-2006, 09:22 PM
It's been running smooth for me. It's probably because it doesn't like you, and I can't blame it.
ur ghey
Anyways, after you oil a guitar neck, are you suppost to
A) Go over it with a dry, clean cloth or
B) Go over it with a clean, wet cloth?
Shattered_Future
02-17-2006, 09:29 PM
Dry. Wet will warp the wood...
Darkness
02-17-2006, 09:30 PM
Ok, thanks. Thats actually what I did right after, but I just wanted to make sure... :thumb:
In regards to the satanism discussion: It's interesting to note that Black Sabbath, one of the most 'evil', dark, heavy bands of all time, the Godfathers of heavy metal, were practically a Christian band. So things are not what they seem
They're not really a Christian band...the songs After Forever and Lord of This World and Into the Void have a pretty Christian slant to them but most other Sabbath references to religion are along the lines of "Don't need it/want it, etc."
Perhaps they briefly converted while making the Master of Reality album?
But yeah, to call Sabbath or Opeth Satanic is really dumb.
Stormrider
02-18-2006, 07:38 AM
Is mx being kinda wierd for anyone else... the top banner is gone, it keeps taking me to this.. parent directory thing..
It does that to me too. So I just get the link to R&M. Then everything works fine.
Darkness
02-18-2006, 10:33 AM
It's working fine now, but the top banner is still gone...
Flynn
02-18-2006, 10:57 AM
Mine's gone too, :chug:
vashts80
02-18-2006, 01:01 PM
That thread on the christian forum ftw.
Seriously what does "ftw" mean?
Stormrider
02-18-2006, 01:08 PM
For The Win.
NP Blind Guardian -The Script for my Requiem
Flynn
02-18-2006, 01:23 PM
That thread on the christian forum ftw.
:lol: I must join them, their ingorance is intriguing.
N.P. When ~ Opeth
TojesDolan
02-18-2006, 02:48 PM
Almost all ethnic/religious groups are rather close-minded.
That's why I try to be a regular human being that takes advantage of all philosophies. Like science. and Jesus. and the d3v1L!!
Meatshield
02-18-2006, 03:40 PM
I have a question - does Mikael use a mouthharp in windowpane, or is that some other instrument?
Sorry if this was already answered in this thread, i can't look through so many pages.
TojesDolan
02-18-2006, 04:19 PM
I don't think so... Any part in particular?
However, Steve Wilson is known for his frecquent use of vocal arrangements and several tools to make them sound... different. But I truly have no idea.
Scuba_Steve
02-18-2006, 04:31 PM
I just got ghost reveries today, and I tihnk it is probably my favorite opeth album so far.
Also, in defence of that christian thing, only one person mentioned that opeth was satantic, and everyone else in the thread pretty much owned him.
Meatshield
02-18-2006, 04:32 PM
I watched the lamentation dvd, i saw him playing something with his mouth(and his mouth alone). And that was the only sound in that sound that's not guitar, drums, or bass.
Darkness
02-18-2006, 04:40 PM
I watched the lamentation dvd, i saw him playing something with his mouth(and his mouth alone). And that was the only sound in that sound that's not guitar, drums, or bass.
Maybe you were hearing the keyboards?
Meatshield
02-18-2006, 04:57 PM
maybe, yeah.
Flynn
02-18-2006, 04:57 PM
I have a question - does Mikael use a mouthharp in windowpane, or is that some other instrument?
No. You were probably hearing something else while he had his pick in his mouth.
Seed Awakening
02-18-2006, 06:51 PM
Doubt it. Nothing like that listened in the credits for Damnation, could be wrong though.
Flynn
02-18-2006, 06:57 PM
If he did, it'd be pretty noticeable. Welcome to the forums! :)
ok lateralus
02-18-2006, 06:58 PM
They're not really a Christian band...the songs After Forever and Lord of This World and Into the Void have a pretty Christian slant to them but most other Sabbath references to religion are along the lines of "Don't need it/want it, etc."
Perhaps they briefly converted while making the Master of Reality album?
I don't think so, I mean they're pretty Christian throughout their career. Their title song, for example, may portray a dark, scary figure, but Ozzy is saying he's scared of it, in fact, and is basically asking God to help him "OOOH NOO LORD PLEASE HELP ME". Still, it is a pretty damn dark song. I could see hardcore Christians thinking it was some sort of Satanist thing. Plus, The Wizard could not be about some Tolkien character but it sounds like some sort of Jesus figure, perhaps? He seems to be magical, walking around healing and making people happy, the song says.
Seed Awakening
02-18-2006, 07:05 PM
My buddy once told me that Sabbath wrote some christian lyrics, specifically on the Master of Reality album, under the influence of their manager because he wanted the group to downplay their satanic image, I don't think this is true but who knows.
ok lateralus
02-18-2006, 07:08 PM
My buddy once told me that Sabbath wrote some christian lyrics, specifically on the Master of Reality album, under the influence of their manager because he wanted the group to downplay their satanic image, I don't think this is true but who knows.
Woah, if they did it just because their manager said so that would be lame.
Seed Awakening
02-18-2006, 07:12 PM
Agreed. But I wouldn't take it seriously, my buddies a bit of a moron
Seed Awakening
02-18-2006, 07:23 PM
We should get back to something Opeth related. Has anybody heard any news about the Akerfeldt/Wilson project?
Darkness
02-18-2006, 07:26 PM
^Wasn't Portnoy going to be involved in that? I know that kinda seems unlikly, but Mikeal does thank him the GR booklet.
Seed Awakening
02-18-2006, 07:31 PM
I think so, but I don't think there's been anything official released.
Shattered_Future
02-18-2006, 09:28 PM
Man, Opeth keeps changing their setlist now? I heard they took out Demon Of The Fall now. :mad:
MidnightRider
02-18-2006, 09:29 PM
Damn, an Akerfeldt/Wilson/Portnoy project would be insane. I doubt it will ever happen.
Flynn
02-18-2006, 09:35 PM
Yeah, that'd be cool. I'd rather see Akerfeldt do another Bloodbath album though. His voice is so perfect with them.
Crysiss
02-19-2006, 04:20 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vLBMxLmEF1Y&search=akerfeldt
Mikael giving singing lessons. lol Sorry if its been posted
Theres another video of them giving a lesson.
Martins playing a squier. Mikaels playing a strat and Peter is playing a jackson
Mikael: We want solos too but were no jeff loomis. (laughs)
I found that pretty funny
Stormrider
02-19-2006, 08:07 AM
NP Blackwater Park
Finally I'm listeing to it. I had only heard a few parts of the song but never the whole thing.
Flynn
02-19-2006, 11:50 AM
^^ well, what did you think?
Shattered_Future
02-19-2006, 11:51 AM
Blackwater Park isn't all it's cracked up to be, I think. It drags on HORRIBLY in places.
However, the growled parts are the best on the album, which brings the song up to average.
MidnightRider
02-19-2006, 11:55 AM
It took BWP a long time to grow on me, but I love it now. I don't think it drags on that bad, I never get bored with it. The growls are amazing.
Treebeard
02-19-2006, 12:02 PM
Does anyone know any of the set lists that have been played so far?
Flynn
02-19-2006, 12:04 PM
It took BWP a long time to grow on me, but I love it now. I don't think it drags on that bad, I never get bored with it. The growls are amazing.
I love how it fades off into that really slow riff for a while, it builds up to the climax so perfectly. :)
Seed Awakening
02-19-2006, 12:10 PM
Does anyone know any of the set lists that have been played so far?
When I saw them with Nevermore in Toronto they played something like:
Baying of the Hounds
When
Deliverance
In My Time of Need
Bleak
Grand Conjuration
Face of Melinda
Blackwater Park
Demon of the Fall
They usually play Demon of the Fall as an encore, unless the crowd sucks I guess.
Stormrider
02-19-2006, 12:11 PM
^^ well, what did you think?
It was good. I'll have to listen to it again though...after one listen to an Opeth song, not everything goes in :)
Flynn
02-19-2006, 12:20 PM
yeah, give it a few listens...it's grow on you like vines. \m/ -_- \m/
Stormrider
02-19-2006, 12:24 PM
Yeah I will.
I also listened to Forest of October for the first time. Once again, I'll have to listen to it again :p I liked it though.
Seed Awakening
02-19-2006, 12:24 PM
Blackwater Park is a sick song, my second favorite from that album other then Bleak. I found it was better live, Mikael sounds way more evil.
TojesDolan
02-19-2006, 12:24 PM
The biggest drag-on in Blackwater Park is the acoustic part after the first stanza. If it was put a little bit... probably some good minutes after that, I suppose it could've been better. But no. It's too boring considering the... mood of the song up to that point.
On a related note, let's also discuss... our favorite line songs in Opeth songs. I start.
Deliverance, somewhere after the growled section finishes:
the piercing sounds you make
soaring higher, higher now
and once left in my wake
your memory is nothing but the scars on me
And, Hope leaves, the chorus thingy:
There is a wound that's always bleeding
There is a road I'm always walking
And I know you'll never return to this place
Yeah, out of that part, those are the ones I have very stuck in my head at the moment.
Seed Awakening
02-19-2006, 12:26 PM
I like the last verse of Windowpane:
Haunting loneliness in the eye
Skin covering a secret scar
His hand is waving a goodbye
There's no response or action returned
There is deep prejudice in me
Outshines all reason inside
Given dreams all ridden with pain
And projected unto the last
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