Opeth

[-Listy-]

Why not go back to the Death heads thread were your subtle jackassery towards bands you don't like will go over better, hmm?

Agreed

[Lord_Hypnos]

Right so iv got the special edition Morningrise cd (the one in the tin case) and at the end theres the song "eternal soul torture" At first i thought it would maybe just be a cover but then i noticed some riffs in the song that are also in some other songs on the album.Basically im just asking if anyone knows more stuff about it and why they never used it on the original morningrise as its possibly one of their heaviest songs ever.

[opeth_oasis]

hey does anyone know where i can get sheet music to silhouette? im up 4 a challenge

[Grey Incision]

my friend heard silhouette and said it sounds piss easy to play













































so i beat him down with a leather belt, that's ludicrisy, i've never played the piano before, and it sounds freakin hard

[opeth_oasis]

it wouldnt be too hard, just a fast tempo

[Cain]

Right so iv got the special edition Morningrise cd (the one in the tin case) and at the end theres the song "eternal soul torture" At first i thought it would maybe just be a cover but then i noticed some riffs in the song that are also in some other songs on the album.Basically im just asking if anyone knows more stuff about it and why they never used it on the original morningrise as its possibly one of their heaviest songs ever.

It was Opeth's first attempt at anything like an "epic," and the recording you hear is from the demo tape that got them signed to Candlelight Records, and for obvious reasons, aside from a killer opening distorted riff and the light sections that found their way into other songs, the song was considered too amateur and not cohesive enough to be worth rerecording and putting on a full-length. The best parts found their ways into other songs, and so...that's that.

[opeth_oasis]

i like all the heavy opeth stuff, but i think mikael is wasting his voice singing so many heavy songs, he has a fantastic voice

[LeperAffinity]

i like all the heavy opeth stuff, but i think mikael is wasting his voice singing so many heavy songs, he has a fantastic voice
That was probably the purpose of the Damnation album, to give him a chance to express that side of him.

[Cardboard Headgear]

http://hem.bredband.net/frisun/Sorskogen_-_Mordet_i_Grottan.mp3

Little Swedish sideproject Mikael had. The song is excellent, very 70s proggish sounding. The chorus actually made it's way into To Rid The Disease. Found the link on the official forum btw.

[evil ernie]

i like all the heavy opeth stuff, but i think mikael is wasting his voice singing so many heavy songs, he has a fantastic voice

What do you mean by wasting his voice? Opeth wouldn't be Opeth without death metal vocals.

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Wouldn't be Opeth without the clean vocals either...

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Maybe this has been mentioned before but I think My Arms, Your Hearse is the best album.

I know they're all great but there is just something special about this one. it was the last one I checked out (because I thought it was abit heavy), but its defintely the best!

I think this album often gets over looked. Dont know why...

[Cain]

Maybe this has been mentioned before but I think My Arms, Your Hearse is the best album.

I know they're all great but there is just something special about this one. it was the last one I checked out (because I thought it was abit heavy), but its defintely the best!

I think this album often gets over looked. Dont know why...

Hey, it's our First Soldier! What's happening: haven't seen ya in a while.

[Cain]

That was probably the purpose of the Damnation album, to give him a chance to express that side of him.

Yeah, but ****ation was a bit disappointing...

[omgwtfboogie]

Yeah, but ****ation was a bit disappointing...
If you were expecting folk death, then yes, I assume it would be. But if you were expecting great musicianship, I don't see how it was disappointing..

[Cain]

i like all the heavy opeth stuff, but i think mikael is wasting his voice singing so many heavy songs, he has a fantastic voice

Lots of people only like Opeth for the singing, this is true. Personally, I love the whole package as far as Mikael is concerned, and I agree, Opeth wouldn't be Opeth without those death growls.

/is pissed at every friend that laughed at Opeth because "it sounds like Cookie Monster." :angry:/

[Cain]

If you were expecting folk death, then yes, I assume it would be. But if you were expecting great musicianship, I don't see how it was disappointing..

Well, I just think that Mikael shouldn't have put so many electrics on it. I was expecting a lot more stuff along the lines of Patterns In The Ivy II or another such song, only with better production. I think Mikael should have built more of the album around his clean vocals rather than the "light" instrumentals. I wanted many more acoustics and singing than I got. It was neat, but I definitely don't think it's as spectacular as some of the others on this forum seem to think.

[LeperAffinity]

Well, I just think that Mikael shouldn't have put so many electrics on it. I was expecting a lot more stuff along the lines of Patterns In The Ivy II or another such song, only with better production. I think Mikael should have built more of the album around his clean vocals rather than the "light" instrumentals. I wanted many more acoustics and singing than I got. It was neat, but I definitely don't think it's as spectacular as some of the others on this forum seem to think.
True, but the thing about the other Opeth albums is that they work with the heavy songs, then the one-off acoustic track. They balance each other out. If Damnation had been made up of just tracks like that, it would have gotten repeptitive. Why would someone but an album composed of entirely songs like that when you could just listen to them on their respective albums, where they flow so well? I'm glad that it was different from the softer songs on their albums, it showed yet another side of Opeth to the world.

[TemperamentalGoat]

hey does anyone know where i can get sheet music to silhouette? im up 4 a challenge

Silhouette is fairly easy, especially for level 10 pianists. Still a hell of a good song though.

[opeth_oasis]

ok its good and fairly easy, but do u hav the music or know where i can purchase it online? sum1 should make a guitar pro tab for it

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted by Ripper22
Lots of people only like Opeth for the singing, this is true. Personally, I love the whole package as far as Mikael is concerned, and I agree, Opeth wouldn't be Opeth without those death growls.

yeah, ive come to appreciate those growls alot after watching the lamentations dvd. Has there been a date set to when the new album will be coming out?

[bucket]

They're still writting it as far as I know... so no date set.

They aren't even signed to a label right now are they?

[The Flabbit Rides High]

yeah, ive come to appreciate those growls alot after watching the lamentations dvd. Has there been a date set to when the new album will be coming out?

Yeah, Ive got that as well and I was expecting him to struggle, but he handles it with great finess. The only thing that bothers me concerning his lyrics is when on the cd there are more than one vocal track. Then on the DVD he has to end on line quicker to get to the other. Not a big prob, but it does get noticed.................................

Like that "girl" in the audience. :p

BTW, when's the "ol' Gang Getting together? --------->(revering to the Clan Of Truth)

[Det_Nosnip]

Come back here, Opeth thread! :p

I was just watching the Lamentations DVD for the millionth time, but this time on an actually decent soundsystem.....whoooooa. :eek:

The extended ending of "Closure" still boggles my mind. They capture the emotion SO well, it just feels like this huge ball of energy just barely kept under control, ready to explode as it expands further and further until.....BAAAAAAAMM!!

Aaah, you can't beat that. :thumb:

PS The Martin Lopez rumors are just that - rumors, correct? He's still in the band and everything, right? Someone mentioned something about him hurting his ankle and having to be replaced...God, I hope not.

[LeperAffinity]

Hopefully, it's been quite a while since I've heard anything else about it. It probably just stemmed from the dates he missed due to his stress attack.

[opeth_oasis]

stress attack????

[scrowler]

*bump*

[Grey Incision]

no, you just wanted post 777................:upset:

ah well, might as well contribute something...................................I heard the rumors about Lopez are true.........:upset: sucks so bad, he was an integral part of opeth

[ArcLite]

I don't really know the band members other than Mike. What's Lopez play and what's the story?

[Det_Nosnip]

Martin Lopez is(was?) Opeth's drummer from Still Life on. He's brought so much to the band; he has an awesome sense of groove, incredibly diverse range of influences and styles. Just check out the Lamentations DVD; he smokes on it.

I can't listen to Orchid, My Arms, or Morningrise because the music feels so inferior without Lopez there (the later stuff is also much better written IMO). The old guy was a good metal drummer, but Lopez brings so much depth and subtly to his playing.

[opeth_oasis]

hes awesome at double kick, perfects everything he plays, very solid drummer

[opeth_oasis]

is it true their old drummer went insane or sumthing? hes nothing compared to lopez but a mad piano player

[xtreme_skatah]

hey guys, I've started to listen to Opeth now. When I first heard them, I couldn't get used to the vocals but know I'm starin to get used to it. I got Still Life and my favourite song is Moonlapse Vertigo. I play Thrash pretty much and wanna broaden my playing to I've started playing them and they are pretty interesting. I like how the guys integrate acoustic with heavy. Any way, just wanna say they are pretty good and what are some more good songs to listen to.

[LeperAffinity]

is it true their old drummer went insane or sumthing? hes nothing compared to lopez but a mad piano player
No, Anders(the old drummer) moved to Brazil and could no longer be a part of the band.

[Flynn]

hey guys, I've started to listen to Opeth now. When I first heard them, I couldn't get used to the vocals but know I'm starin to get used to it. I got Still Life and my favourite song is Moonlapse Vertigo. I play Thrash pretty much and wanna broaden my playing to I've started playing them and they are pretty interesting. I like how the guys integrate acoustic with heavy. Any way, just wanna say they are pretty good and what are some more good songs to listen to.


Vocals grow on ya don't they? They did for me too...Wasn't used to them..but it grew on me. I have been recently practicing some of their older songs on guitar. In Mist She Was Standing from Orchid is what I am currently working on. If you haven't heard Black Rose Immortal yet, I recomend you should. It's one of their best recordings IMO.











Lullaby of the crescent moon, took you
Mesmerized, its kaleidoscopic face.

Granted you a hollow stare.
Another soul within the divine herd.

[Mr. Ron]

Opeth=One of the greatest bands ever essembled. :thumb:

I got goose-bumps when I watched their DVD. Any of you guys know if they are having a show around the Albany NY area any time soon?

[linkotim]

sorry to ask this, but ive never heard opeth... how heavy are they, and wat is their best songs? like 2-3 songs in peticular

[Mr. Ron]

sorry to ask this, but ive never heard opeth... how heavy are they, and wat is their best songs? like 2-3 songs in peticular

Pick up either Blackwater park or Morning rise and find out. They are amazinly diverse ranging from heavy death metal to melodic singing.

[LeperAffinity]

Go here

http://cdzlimited.org/rock/M_R/opeth.html

You can stream all albums except Morningrise and Orchid for free. The quality could be better though.

[linkotim]

cheers;)

[Det_Nosnip]

Opeth=One of the greatest bands ever essembled. :thumb:

I got goose-bumps when I watched their DVD. Any of you guys know if they are having a show around the Albany NY area any time soon?

Been pretty quiet on the Opeth page for a while. I believe that they're currently working on a new album right now, which explains the lack of touring.

[SofaKing713]

I can't wait until the new Opeth CD comes out. I wonder if it will be like ****ation or their other CDs.

[Mr. Ron]

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Been pretty quiet on the Opeth page for a while. I believe that they're currently working on a new album right now, which explains the lack of touring.[/QUOTE

Excellent. I would rather have them making another great album then having them tour....well......kind of. Whatever they come out with next I am sure will be amazing.

[LeperAffinity]

I can't wait until the new Opeth CD comes out. I wonder if it will be like ****ation or their other CDs.
They said Damnation was a one-off thing, and the next album will go back to the heavy/soft formula of records from before.

[Grey Incision]

in an interview with mikael, apparently he said that their next album would be yet another concept album, and they would have a more black metal style about them..........i'm not sure how this will work, but IMO it will definatly be a good album

[opeth_oasis]

****ation was alright, cept all the effects done on mikael's voice. I rekon opeth was at their prime when they recorded blackwater park, easily imo the best opeth album

[opeth_oasis]

is it true that mikael featured in some ayreon songs? I rather like ayreon, does anyone know if he did and if yes, which ones

[Grey Incision]

i know he did, he featured in day 4, and day 12 on the human equation ( i'm not certain of these tracks, but i'm FAIRLY certain it's those days)

and IMO, Still Life was their pinnacle, an absolute killer album, beautiful acoustic/clean interludes with some real burning riffs, which still retained beauty in it's own ways. i love this album.

[Cardboard Headgear]

On Ayreon's The Human Equation, Mikael was on Days(off the top of my head) 2, 5, 6, 8, 11, 12, 15, and 20. I believe that's all of them.

[Grey Incision]

i knew it was either 4 or 5, but i'm certain he was the feature vocalist in 12 and 4/5

[Det_Nosnip]

i know he did, he featured in day 4, and day 12 on the human equation ( i'm not certain of these tracks, but i'm FAIRLY certain it's those days)

and IMO, Still Life was their pinnacle, an absolute killer album, beautiful acoustic/clean interludes with some real burning riffs, which still retained beauty in it's own ways. i love this album.

Still Life's fantastic, except for the production. I'd love it if they re-mastered/redid all of those early albums. Actually, that would be ****ing cool as hell....take the new Opeth, and go back and re-record all of the old albums.

[Iron Man]

Still Life's fantastic, except for the production. I'd love it if they re-mastered/redid all of those early albums. Actually, that would be ****ing cool as hell....take the new Opeth, and go back and re-record all of the old albums.

Yeah, Still Life was my favorite but I think sometimes the lead part got lost in the background, and sometimes the sound on my right speaker cuts out...I would buy a remaster without a flinch

[Lateralias]

Still Life's fantastic, except for the production. I'd love it if they re-mastered/redid all of those early albums. Actually, that would be ****ing cool as hell....take the new Opeth, and go back and re-record all of the old albums.

That would be awesome, Still Life's production isn't bad as Morningrise and Orchid though, but a remastered version of those would be great!

[evil ernie]

That would be awesome, Still Life's production isn't bad as Morningrise and Orchid though, but a remastered version of those would be great!

A rerecorded version would be even better in my opinion. Or maybe a early days best of rerecorded like Testament did.

[Iron Man]

Thing is, all of their early songs are close to or over 10 minutes...

[4130]

^^^ So? What are you saying, that they can't be bothered playing an old song for 10 minutes? Or are you saying you could only fit a few onto a best of CD?

[Iron Man]

I'm saying it will be the 6-7 song greatest hits CD. No insult to the band.

[4130]

Alright, you could make a double, or a triple CD I guess. Although I'm not a huge fan of best of or greatest hits, I prefer listening to the whole album, and I really don't think a best of CD of Opeth would work too well, I just reckon every album they have creates a different atmosphere (Although I haven't heard Orchid yet, so i can't comment on that).

[naboo]

Still Life's fantastic, except for the production. I'd love it if they re-mastered/redid all of those early albums. Actually, that would be ****ing cool as hell....take the new Opeth, and go back and re-record all of the old albums.

I'd really doubt that they'll do it though. Mike said on the dvd that he can't even listen to stuff on Orchid and Morningrise anymore.

[Cain]

I love the production on Still Life!! But yeah, remixes of an album as awesome as Morningrise, in addition to better death and clean vocals, would truly make that album the best EVER.

Too bad it won't happen, though. :upset:

[naboo]

I'm saying it will be the 6-7 song greatest hits CD. No insult to the band.

Meh, I think if someone bought any Opeth cd, it would basically be a greatest hits.

And I think there is no reason to rerecord Still Life; I think the production is absolutley fantastic.

[Det_Nosnip]

I'd really doubt that they'll do it though. Mike said on the dvd that he can't even listen to stuff on Orchid and Morningrise anymore.

I can understand why. I see more potential than mastery on their first couple of albums. As blasphemous a statement as it may be, I think alot of the songs on Orchid could have been alot shorter than they were. :lol: IMO, they just kept getting better with each CD until Blackwater Park. While I actually do like the Deliverance album (seems to be a least favorite for many other people), I wouldn't consider it better than BWP. ****ation is kinda hard to fit into the scheme of things, because it's so different...I love the album to death (ha), but it's not what I would listen to when I'm in the mood for, say, BWP or Still Life, so it's impossible to compare them.

[Lateralias]

I can understand why. I see more potential than mastery on their first couple of albums. As blasphemous a statement as it may be, I think alot of the songs on Orchid could have been alot shorter than they were. :lol: IMO, they just kept getting better with each CD until Blackwater Park. While I actually do like the Deliverance album (seems to be a least favorite for many other people), I wouldn't consider it better than BWP. ****ation is kinda hard to fit into the scheme of things, because it's so different...I love the album to death (ha), but it's not what I would listen to when I'm in the mood for, say, BWP or Still Life, so it's impossible to compare them.

I thought Deliverance was pretty good, with tracks like A Fair Judgement, Master's Apprentices, and of course, the title track. But yes, it didn't match up to BWP though, because BWP is superb among Opeth albums, along with Still Life.

[harps2cool]

i got into Opeth about half a year ago. I heard Deliverance on Sirius radio and i saw Drapery Falls on some hellfest dvd. I was blown away completely. I am a drummer, so i really admire Martin Lopez....admire is really an understatement ha. He is so incredibly original. All the other members are incredibly talented at what they do. Mikael is easily my favorite vocallist, simply because his clean vocals are so beautiful and powerful, and yet he can death metal growl better than most. I also love the fact that within his Death metal vocals he can produce so many pitches and still keep the death metal sound.

Second to the amazing musicianship, i love the feel Opeth has....they keep that kind of "mystic forest music" feel no matter how heavy or crazy the music is. You can really hear this vibe on Blackwater Park.

I have Blackwater Park, Deliverance, and the Lamentations DVD. I plan on getting alot of their older albums and ****ation and their new cd when it comes out.

[4130]

I don't see why everyone says that Deliverance wasn't a very good album. I absolutely love it. I'm learning A Fair Judgment at the moment and I'm up to the second solo. It has to be one of the best solos I have ever heard. And the title track on that album, holy crap, such awsome drumming. And of course all the other songs rule majorly as well!

[Cain]

I wrote a second review in the review thread for "Deliverance" in the CD Reviews forum. Check it out.

[CreepingBlack]

getting close to 1,000.

[Cain]

Yeep. It's very exciting, let me tell you.

[CreepingBlack]

ha, yeah, i bet it is. I never had the joy of getting my 1,000 post, because i got all my accounts merged at around 800 posts, and that put me at 1100.
oh well. our clan needs a thread all our own, that we can always talk and stuff, like the old Metallica vs. Opeth thread. Those were my favorite times on mx so far.

[Cain]

ha, yeah, i bet it is. I never had the joy of getting my 1,000 post, because i got all my accounts merged at around 800 posts, and that put me at 1100.
oh well. our clan needs a thread all our own, that we can always talk and stuff, like the old Metallica vs. Opeth thread. Those were my favorite times on mx so far.

Agreed. We should, I think. We would have to be wary of making it into an elitist Community Thread, though. We need a legitimate subject. Maybe posting something in the Pit? But there are so many idiots there...

[CreepingBlack]

Agreed. We should, I think. We would have to be wary of making it into an elitist Community Thread, though. We need a legitimate subject. Maybe posting something in the Pit? But there are so many idiots there...
you're right. we should make one in the pit though. But should we base it on our clan?
hmmm...now's a better time then ever. Me, you, zep and steer are more popular now then ever. You and him will probably make the top 100 mxer list, and i might too. I think if we made a thread, itd be taken seriously.
but what subject?

[Cain]

you're right. we should make one in the pit though. But should we base it on our clan?
hmmm...now's a better time then ever. Me, you, zep and steer are more popular now then ever. You and him will probably make the top 100 mxer list, and i might too. I think if we made a thread, itd be taken seriously.
but what subject?

Subject's the tricky one. Maybe it can just be a simple community thing. Modeled on the one in R+M. That's what all the Pit convos are about anyway.

[CreepingBlack]

Subject's the tricky one. Maybe it can just be a simple community thing. Modeled on the one in R+M. That's what all the Pit convos are about anyway.
well, lets do it then. now though? And i think personally that zepfan should make the thread. His is the most popular of us, and the most credible. He should though mention the clan, its members, our goals, and how the clan was formed. But, it should be a basic community thread.(our home)

[Cain]

well, lets do it then. now though? And i think personally that zepfan should make the thread. His is the most popular of us, and the most credible. He should though mention the clan, its members, our goals, and how the clan was formed. But, it should be a basic community thread.(our home)

Meh, I'll do it. I personally don't think zepfan is as hot on the Clan as he was before. But we'll see. That okay? I'll do it right now.

EDIT: He may be most popular, but you, me and Steer thought up the whole thing.

[CreepingBlack]

Meh, I'll do it. I personally don't think zepfan is as hot on the Clan as he was before. But we'll see. That okay? I'll do it right now.

EDIT: He may be most popular, but you, me and Steer thought up the whole thing.
hey, oh ****. Go for it man, but do a good job,( i know you will)

[Permanent Solution]

Meh, I'll do it. I personally don't think zepfan is as hot on the Clan as he was before. But we'll see. That okay? I'll do it right now.

EDIT: He may be most popular, but you, me and Steer thought up the whole thing.
Meh, give it direction and we'll see, it sorta died out for awhile so I didn't see anything happening, but all's cool if something starts happening.

[CreepingBlack]

its time to make a thread. look at your popularity now. and me and ripper are well-received around here too. Making a community thread but tying in our clan and our positive outlook sounds great.

[LP444ever]

Yo i have a question, What exactly is progressive music? many people say opeth are, but my friend disagrees. He says its bands that make really fast music, like songs over 200 bpm, bands like necrophagist....but i highly doubt thats what prog music is, can someone shed some light over here?

[Iron Man]

Most stuff that is technical is labeled Progressive, and it can go from slower (Opeth may not be fast, but have you looked at the tabs? ****) to faster (like Symphony X, Romeo can play, haha)

[Grey Incision]

ripper, creepingblack, please, discuss this in the community thread, or a neutral place, sorry, it's just that the last page was basically not opeth related, and some mods (not naming, just thinking out loud) may consider this as spamming up a thread by staying off topic. We wouldn't like the thread to get closed now would we:). Also, i just sort of dropped out of the clan because i believe the best way to achieve our collective goal is to set an example as individuals, you 2, steer and zepfan have done a good job, the posters have been following suit in almost every thread i read.

now, back to topic,

If Opeth did a remastered greatest hits cd, i think it would fail, because each album has a different atmosphere about it, and if you ran 3 or 4 of these atmosphere's together, it would collapse and sound terrible IMO. Also, i can't see waht everyone's fascination with morningrise is, the only song off that cd i truly love is "to bid you farewell"(don't get me wrong, i still like the album, but i don't love it.) it is their poorest album IMO

[Cain]

now, back to topic,

If Opeth did a remastered greatest hits cd, i think it would fail, because each album has a different atmosphere about it, and if you ran 3 or 4 of these atmosphere's together, it would collapse and sound terrible IMO. Also, i can't see waht everyone's fascination with morningrise is, the only song off that cd i truly love is "to bid you farewell"(don't get me wrong, i still like the album, but i don't love it.) it is their poorest album IMO

Curses rain down upon you! Dropped out of the clan AND Morningrise is their weakest album!!!!

Meh, I see where you're coming from. I've always thought that Morningrise had some of the best musical sections Opeth ever wrote hands down, but it also has some of the worst screaming and singing by Mikael, some of the least bit of coherency and tightness, the bass is virtuosic but weird, and the production is pretty terrible. The harmony riffs would sound so much cooler with a good corresponding powerchord underneath.


REMIX MORNINGRISE IS THE MESSAGE HERE. (edit)

[opeth_oasis]

what are you on about? Morningrise is amazing, has some great songs on it, like advent and black rose immortal.

[opeth_oasis]

i havent herd much from still life, whats the best song on the album?

[ArcLite]

I think The Moor is the best song off still life. But it's definitely not my favorite album of theirs, more like 4th or 5th favorite.

[opeth_oasis]

BWP will always be my fav

[Grey Incision]

still life owns, IMO, it's a lot more different from their other albums, the first 2 opeth albums had that true death metal feel to my mind, blackwater park, has a lot more rythm to it, it's a great album, deliverance is once again something different, the music is a lot more experimental, and no need to explain ****ation. Still Life though, it sort of fuses the death metal feel with rythm ya know? sorry, that's the best way i can explain why i think it is different and so much better

[bahamut_0]

i havent herd much from still life, whats the best song on the album?

I personally love Godhead's Lament, great song.
Morningrise is a great album, not their best, but it's still great.
Yeah, I agree about the Greatest Hits not working, for the reasons stated.

And Blackwater Park is my favourite album ^^

[Flynn]

its time to make a thread. look at your popularity now. and me and ripper are well-received around here too. Making a community thread but tying in our clan and our positive outlook sounds great.


Dude, I gotta say, That is the COOLEST avatar I have ever seen on a forum's page! Where did you get it from? I am deeply into RPG's and MMORPGs...Playing WoW atm...world of Warcraft. Nice Avatar :thumb:



...R.I.P Darrell Abbott

[IvortheEngineDriver]

i havent herd much from still life, whats the best song on the album?
Depends on who you ask...my favorite hard song is Godhead's Lament and my favorite soft is Benighted

But, I think every album has some awesome songs on it...as a whole, Blackwater Park is their best album, IMO. Every song is amazing, IMO...god, I just love that album


BTW, did anyone else know that Steven Wilson co-wrote Death Whispered a Lullaby and PT plays it in their shows? Pretty interesting, no?


AND...welcome back Flynn, been a long time! Glad to see this thread is still going :)

[feelsoinvincible]

i havent herd much from still life, whats the best song on the album?
The entire album kicks ***. The best part, though, is that the lyrics of all the songs relate to each other, and they tell a story. If you haven't read this - http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220887. Scroll a ways down and it gives an outline by song.

[Cardboard Headgear]

Yo i have a question, What exactly is progressive music? many people say opeth are, but my friend disagrees. He says its bands that make really fast music, like songs over 200 bpm, bands like necrophagist....but i highly doubt thats what prog music is, can someone shed some light over here?
Progressive the adjective is different from 'prog' the genre. Anything that is creative in a new way, breaking new ground, etc can be labelled as progressive; it is not, however, a genre. You can say that Opeth are progressive, along with, say, Borknagar. However, the term prog rock/metal whatever has come to mean a somewhat defined genre of music. Basically, if it sounds like Dream Theater or has the same basic characteristics, it's prog. That's why you can call Opeth progressive, but not prog metal, because they are doing something different, but they aren't prog genre.

Besides the fact that your friend has his definition all wrong, and that Necrophagist is technical death metal.

[bball_1523]

Progressive the adjective is different from 'prog' the genre. Anything that is creative in a new way, breaking new ground, etc can be labelled as progressive; it is not, however, a genre. You can say that Opeth are progressive, along with, say, Borknagar. However, the term prog rock/metal whatever has come to mean a somewhat defined genre of music. Basically, if it sounds like Dream Theater or has the same basic characteristics, it's prog. That's why you can call Opeth progressive, but not prog metal, because they are doing something different, but they aren't prog genre.

Besides the fact that your friend has his definition all wrong, and that Necrophagist is technical death metal.

You know I don't think there's a true definition to it. We all have our own definitions I guess. I don't think Dream theater is the first prog rock/metal band, so I wouldn't say they are the best exampe of progressive music, but they definitely are prog to me.

I think of prog with crazy time signatures, amazingly talented musicians, fusion of musical styles, long songs.

Bands like Dream Theater, Symphony X, Ayreon, Pain of Salvation, Rush all fit the progressive rock/metal category in my view. I think Opeth are definitely progressive, but not in the same sense as these bands. But Opeth's music/composition is what counts most, so I don't what they are labeled as.

[Children of Opeth]

Curses rain down upon you! Dropped out of the clan AND Morningrise is their weakest album!!!!

Meh, I see where you're coming from. I've always thought that Morningrise had some of the best musical sections Opeth ever wrote hands down, but it also has some of the worst screaming and singing by Mikael, some of the least bit of coherency and tightness, the bass is virtuosic but weird, and the production is pretty terrible. The harmony riffs would sound so much cooler with a good corresponding powerchord underneath.


REMIX MORNINGRISE IS THE MESSAGE HERE. (edit)
I agree that Morningrise needs to be remixed or just totally rerecorded.
But it isn't their weakest album. Opeth hasn't made a bad album yet, but I think most people will agree that Morningrise is better than Orchid.

[opeth_oasis]

morningrise imo its their 2nd best album, though remixing it wud be mad. Its got probably the best ever opeth song on it, to bid you farewell, thats one fantastic song.

[Grey Incision]

to bid you farewell is my favourite opeth song, but still, the album doesn't do enough for me, it's a great album, like, all the songs on it are awesome, but it still doesn't top my list, my top 3 are, Still Life, My arms your hearse, and Blackwater park

[opeth_oasis]

my order is
1- Blackwater Park
2- Morningrise
3- ****ation
4- Still Life
5- My Arms, Your Hearse
6- Orchid
7- Deliverance

Even though deliverance is last, its still a fantastic album, better than anything by metallica. And to this day i have only heard one opeth song which i dislike, Circle Of Tyrants

[ArcLite]

My top 5

1. BWP
2. Morningrise
3. Orchid
4. Still Life
5. ****ation

[Grey Incision]

my order is
1- Blackwater Park
2- Morningrise
3- ****ation
4- Still Life
5- My Arms, Your Hearse
6- Orchid
7- Deliverance

Even though deliverance is last, its still a fantastic album, better than anything by metallica. And to this day i have only heard one opeth song which i dislike, Circle Of Tyrants

dude, circle of the tyrants was a cover of 'circle of the tyrants' by celtic frost. celtic frost were more death metal IMO, that's why you probably didn't like it.

[opeth_oasis]

yeah i knew that it was a cover, just doesnt appeal to me

[Grey Incision]

ah ok, kool. just checking buddy :thumb:

btw, how is it that nobody around here likes MAYH too much, it's great, it has demon of the fall, april ethereal, when, karma and credence on it, a ****ing brilliant work.

[Cain]

I agree that Morningrise needs to be remixed or just totally rerecorded.
But it isn't their weakest album. Opeth hasn't made a bad album yet, but I think most people will agree that Morningrise is better than Orchid.

Morningrise is their best one compositionally. My post has a typo in it. It's just that Opeth hadn't fully developed the most important areas of their talent yet.

[Lateralias]

ah ok, kool. just checking buddy :thumb:

btw, how is it that nobody around here likes MAYH too much, it's great, it has demon of the fall, april ethereal, when, karma and credence on it, a ****ing brilliant work.

I love MAYH, it has a more mysterious mellow feel to the album, and the album concept is pretty cool, the lyrics are fantastic.

[Grey Incision]

**** oath, i'll drink to that mate :chug:

[Iron Man]

MAYH is the only Opeth I don't own :'(

[Grey Incision]

get it, i can gaurantee you it will thoroughly own you :thumb:

[bball_1523]

I think morningrise is fine the way it is, except that it sounds a bit raw, but it still has a good atmosphere to it.

[guitrguy]

MAYH is the only Opeth I don't own :'(
I own it!!

[opeth_oasis]

MAYH is pretty good and demon of the fall is my favourite heavy song by opeth. I also really like the remember tomorow song that they covered off iron maiden, its a dissapointing iron maiden song(the ONLY dissapointing song) but was made good with the vocals suiting mikael's voice.

[Mr. Ron]

Morning rise is argueably their best album.

[opeth_oasis]

yeah the more i listen the more i love it, its tieing now with BWP in my fav album. Black rose immortal just amazes me, beautiful variation of soft and heavy singing

[opeth_oasis]

i never knew this till now but did you know that MAYH is actually a long story, like still life, i found this at sonicdeath.com:
The story tells of a man that died prematurely before being stranded on earth in his spirit form. His attempts to keep his grasp on the physical world are futile — all he can do is watch the world through spring to winter as his lover's devotion to him melts away in front of his very eyes.

[Det_Nosnip]

Morningrise, Orchid, etc for me are just too unfocused. Alot of it was just heavy music with acoustic breaks thrown in there just to jolt you and surprise you, but at times it didn't really make sense. With Still Life, BWP, etc, you can trace the path back....you just never see it coming the first time. For their first albums, it was enough to have random acoustic breaks, because it was unique, but then they decided that they had to actually make it WORK. For me, Opeth's early career was a process of heavy experimentation and then applying what was learned through experimentation in the later masterpieces, Still Life and Blackwater Park. Now, they've started to experiment again with Deliverance/****ation...I'm thinking that they're going to have a few more albums that are REALLY different as the band continues to experiment, and then there's going to put out another masterpiece that's going to just blow us all away. Don't get me wrong, I like to listen to the early stuff, there's some really beautiful music in there, but it was too unfocused for me to put it on par to Still Life.

[Cardboard Headgear]

Advent is the most focused song (imo) from the first two albums, as in all the breaks and changes seem like they absolutely belong there. To Bid You Farewell is also really cohesive, but at the same time it has this really meandering quality to it that I find fascinating.

[Grey Incision]

one song that i find odd, it's not my favourite opeth song by any stretch of the imagination, but the little solo around 7:44 in the twilight is my robe, just after the acoustic section, it isn't an exceedingly difficult solo, but it just sounds amazing, probably one of my favourite moments in all the opeth songs.

[m0ngaa]

what do you think makes black rose immortal so appealing to everybody?

[ArcLite]

I like the changes in tempo and sound. It's like reading a book while listening to a song. Lots of good riffs and whatnot also.

[Prince of Darkness]

Jaco Ber! Dis Ernst! Gan op MSN Messenger!

[Uber-Termite]

Morningrise, Orchid, etc for me are just too unfocused. Alot of it was just heavy music with acoustic breaks thrown in there just to jolt you and surprise you, but at times it didn't really make sense. With Still Life, BWP, etc, you can trace the path back....you just never see it coming the first time. For their first albums, it was enough to have random acoustic breaks, because it was unique, but then they decided that they had to actually make it WORK. For me, Opeth's early career was a process of heavy experimentation and then applying what was learned through experimentation in the later masterpieces, Still Life and Blackwater Park. Now, they've started to experiment again with Deliverance/****ation...I'm thinking that they're going to have a few more albums that are REALLY different as the band continues to experiment, and then there's going to put out another masterpiece that's going to just blow us all away. Don't get me wrong, I like to listen to the early stuff, there's some really beautiful music in there, but it was too unfocused for me to put it on par to Still Life.

Dude you make alota sence!!
And you r right about experimenting with their new albulms
I've heard that they are combining deathmetal with gregorian chants!!
Freaky but so BRILLIANT!!
I just love this band!!! :D

[Cain]

Morningrise, Orchid, etc for me are just too unfocused. Alot of it was just heavy music with acoustic breaks thrown in there just to jolt you and surprise you, but at times it didn't really make sense. With Still Life, BWP, etc, you can trace the path back....you just never see it coming the first time. For their first albums, it was enough to have random acoustic breaks, because it was unique, but then they decided that they had to actually make it WORK. For me, Opeth's early career was a process of heavy experimentation and then applying what was learned through experimentation in the later masterpieces, Still Life and Blackwater Park. Now, they've started to experiment again with Deliverance/****ation...I'm thinking that they're going to have a few more albums that are REALLY different as the band continues to experiment, and then there's going to put out another masterpiece that's going to just blow us all away. Don't get me wrong, I like to listen to the early stuff, there's some really beautiful music in there, but it was too unfocused for me to put it on par to Still Life.

I would agree. But good God Almighty, they have got a truckload of beautiful music throughout Morningrise. The harmonized acoustics in particular blow me away every time.

[relliK]

I have a question.Does Mikael Akerfeldt write all the music?Or at least the majority of it?He is the only one credited in the Deliverance/****ation booklets.Can someone please verfiy if this is true?If so, Mikael Akerfeldt=God.

[opeth_oasis]

Steve Wilson helps out with some of the song lyrics and also provides some backing vocals.

[Cardboard Headgear]

Yes Akerfeldt writes pretty much everything.

[Mafia_Tom]

Just thought I'd jump in and add my voice to the praising of Opeth.

Seen them once, got all the CDs and the Live DVD.

\m/

[Iron Man]

Morningrise, Orchid, etc for me are just too unfocused. Alot of it was just heavy music with acoustic breaks thrown in there just to jolt you and surprise you, but at times it didn't really make sense. With Still Life, BWP, etc, you can trace the path back....you just never see it coming the first time. For their first albums, it was enough to have random acoustic breaks, because it was unique, but then they decided that they had to actually make it WORK. For me, Opeth's early career was a process of heavy experimentation and then applying what was learned through experimentation in the later masterpieces, Still Life and Blackwater Park. Now, they've started to experiment again with Deliverance/****ation...I'm thinking that they're going to have a few more albums that are REALLY different as the band continues to experiment, and then there's going to put out another masterpiece that's going to just blow us all away. Don't get me wrong, I like to listen to the early stuff, there's some really beautiful music in there, but it was too unfocused for me to put it on par to Still Life.

I still kinda miss the double guitar lines...

[Det_Nosnip]

I would agree. But good God Almighty, they have got a truckload of beautiful music throughout Morningrise. The harmonized acoustics in particular blow me away every time.

Oh, no doubt. IMO, it's brilliant music, but not organized/structured in as effective a way as Still Life+. It's still Opeth, though.

[opeth_oasis]

Morningrise is pretty much perfect IMO except the growling doesnt sound as good, also in orchid

[Grey Incision]

don't get me wrong when i said i didn't rate morningrise in opeth albums, it's still an awesome album, but in comparison to other opeth albums, it doesn't match up IMO

[opeth_oasis]

as if it doesnt match up, what are you on about mate?

[Grey Incision]

IMO= in my opinion

don't try and change it without justifiable evidence.

I'll tell you why i don't think it compares to opeth's other work. The sections do not flow as cleanly as other albums, it sounds as if acoustic sections were just thrown in there. certain acoustic parts last for ever and are extremely repetitive. The sound production on it is poor ( this i cannot blame opeth for, but it still does not float my boat). Mikael's growls on it are kind of awkward, and annoying, same with Orchids.

remember, this is MY OPINION, you are aloud yours, and i'm not going to have a shot at you for it. The only thing i'm on MATE, is orange juice, and seeing as it hasn't fermented, i am fine and my mind straight. i appreciate your one sentence response though champ.

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted By Grey Incision
IMO= in my opinion

don't try and change it without justifiable evidence.

I'll tell you why i don't think it compares to opeth's other work. The sections do not flow as cleanly as other albums, it sounds as if acoustic sections were just thrown in there. certain acoustic parts last for ever and are extremely repetitive. The sound production on it is poor ( this i cannot blame opeth for, but it still does not float my boat). Mikael's growls on it are kind of awkward, and annoying, same with Orchids.

remember, this is MY OPINION, you are aloud yours, and i'm not going to have a shot at you for it. The only thing i'm on MATE, is orange juice, and seeing as it hasn't fermented, i am fine and my mind straight. i appreciate your one sentence response though champ.

yeah fair enough i respect your opinion and what your saying makes sense, not as much to me but hey its your opinion and i respect it. I must agree though that the growls are not as good as their later works. All in all i dont exactly agree with your statement but i respect your opinion. :thumb:

[4130]

I agree with Grey Incision, the acoustic parts don't fit in as well, and the vocals are worse, and the production quality is pretty bad. Although I would say Morningrise is probably my favourite album after BWP, so don't get me wrong, I love the CD, but with all Opeth's greatness, I have come to expect better than completely awsome albums.

Edit: I'm learning Benighted on guitar, great fingerpicking song!

[relliK]

i never knew this till now but did you know that MAYH is actually a long story, like still life, i found this at sonicdeath.com:
The story tells of a man that died prematurely before being stranded on earth in his spirit form. His attempts to keep his grasp on the physical world are futile — all he can do is watch the world through spring to winter as his lover's devotion to him melts away in front of his very eyes.

Yeah, the fact that the last lyric to every song is the title of the next track made me believe it was a story.I love that album.I love how the clean vocals sound "ghost-like".Mikael's vocals on When give me the chills everytime.I think that cd is probably his best vocal performance.Well, the singing anyway.I like the growling on BWP better.

[Grey Incision]

MAYH is my second favourite album, it's bloody amazing, april ethereal is and will always remain my favourite opeth song, i love the clean vocals in the middle

I will endure, hide away
I will outrun the scythe, glaring with failure

i just love that part, and the song itself just sounds so good, mikael can write some amazing stuff.

[Grey Incision]

geez, i found this on the 5th page, come on folks, keep this thread alive

in other words.......

BUMP!

[4130]

Does anyone else think the part in When, when Mikael sings

"And I cried, I knew she had lied,
the obsession had died, it had died"

Sound like a 10 year old poetry class? Although I love that part, sooo good, but the lyrics have always bothered me.

[Grey Incision]

are you kidding? Why do you think this? because he added a rhyming pattern in? it relates completely with the whole song, and if you follow the story, it is the turning poiint in the story.

edit: sorry if this came across as aggresive or anything, but yeah, it fits the song well, i think

[4130]

It does fit in with the song awsome, I love the part. But rhyming cried, lied and died and then died again, is just so simple. I guess it work well, but just, arghhh.. i dunno it bothers me, it's like hearing a grade 1 poem.

[Grey Incision]

yeah, i can see where your coming from, hehehe, it is a little simplistic, but please, don't use the term grade 1 poem when talking about opeth's lyrics, it just cut me, is all :upset:

[Mr. Ron]

It does fit in with the song awsome, I love the part. But rhyming cried, lied and died and then died again, is just so simple. I guess it work well, but just, arghhh.. i dunno it bothers me, it's like hearing a grade 1 poem.
Meh, every band has at least one line that is garbage.

Ok, what does everybody think Opeth's BEST song is. I mean OVERALL BEST, the lyrics, the drums, bass, guitars, vocals.

???

[Grey Incision]

gee, that's a toughy, there are quite a few that have a good standing...........ummm, i can give you top songs for each instrument

1. guitar- I really like Moonlapse Vertigo
2. Bass-To bid you farewell or blackwater park
3. Drums-ummmm, ITMSWS? Demon Of the fall?

[Lateralias]

Meh, every band has at least one line that is garbage.

Ok, what does everybody think Opeth's BEST song is. I mean OVERALL BEST, the lyrics, the drums, bass, guitars, vocals.

???

That is a tough one indeed....
I'd say maybe Bleak... or Blackwater Park, but then again there's the songs on Still Life... and a select few on MAYH.... even some worthy ones on Deliverance... meh, yes that's a hard question.....

[Mr. Ron]

gee, that's a toughy, there are quite a few that have a good standing...........ummm, i can give you top songs for each instrument

1. guitar- I really like Moonlapse Vertigo
2. Bass-To bid you farewell or blackwater park
3. Drums-ummmm, ITMSWS? Demon Of the fall?
Personally, I like Blackrose Immortal the best. Morning rise is an amazing album.

[Grey Incision]

blackrose immortal is an awesome song, but i don't think it is the best instrumentally wise.........****, i forgot one, it has to be the best Opeth song instrumentally(well, IMO).........THE TWILIGHT IS MY ROBE.......

amazing song that, really superb stuff, especially the solo, now that's a treat

...................../sounds like richie benaud :upset:

[RiceMonster]

Black Rose Immortal is good but not the best, in my opinion.

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted By amostbitterseason
Meh, every band has at least one line that is garbage.

Ok, what does everybody think Opeth's BEST song is. I mean OVERALL BEST, the lyrics, the drums, bass, guitars, vocals.

???

I'd say
Lyrics-Face Of Melinda or April Ethereal
Guitar-Moonlapse Vertigo or A Fair Judgement
Bass-Advent
Drums-umm not sure maybe Wreath??

overall best song IMO would be a three way tie between To Bid You Farewell, Advent and The Moor

[naboo]

Guitar - Black Rose Immortal
Bass - This one is hard but I think im going to say Nectar or Advent
Drums - Deliverance
Lyrics - The Moor and To Bid You Farewell

Opeth's overall best is Black Rose Immortal. It's absolutley amazing. Forest of October comes pretty close. Yeah I love the Orchid and Morningrise stuff.

[4130]

Deliverance deffinetly has the best drums, the outro is :thumb:

[opeth_oasis]

who do you guys reckon was better, the old or new bass player? I'd have to say the old

[Cardboard Headgear]

DeFarfalla's style wouldn't fit Opeth's sound past the first two albums.

[Kreator2112]

i hate people who say opeth is boring, they arent boring at all. you just need to have an appreciation for the music. the acoustic intros own. i dont know any other band in death that uses acoustic.

advent=my fav

[Grey Incision]

yeah, i would say he probably would be a better bassist, but you don't know, since the bass lines in the old stuff is quite prominent, in the new stuff, it's just there, ya know?

[Cardboard Headgear]

Right, but if Mendez went off the way DeFarfalla did it wouldn't sound good at all with Opeth's current sound. Sometimes the better bass player is the one who knows when NOT to play. Mendez's style fits Opeth's current sound perfectly, he locks in with Lopez and makes a solid rythmn section for the guitars to do their thing over.

[Grey Incision]

that's true, and even in a song like blackwater park, he's shown us he can shine a little, so all is well.

[Gibbers3095]

Actually, Mike wrote almost all of the bass parts for Orchid and Morningrise, which were the albums when DeFarfalla was still with the band. In my opinion, Mendez is far better than DeFarfalla was, not only because the music is better fitting, but because he can really ****ing shred on bass (just ask anyone on the Opeth threads at Ultimate Metal).

[Det_Nosnip]

Aye, he's a better musician. You have to look harder to see what he's doing, but his approach is very interesting and unique. I love the Martins. :)

[opeth_oasis]

apparently DeFarfalla was "too boring" for the band, i thought he was pretty good, his bass lines were pretty rockin

[Iron Man]

Aye, he's a better musician. You have to look harder to see what he's doing, but his approach is very interesting and unique. I love the Martins. :)

It's weird that they're both named Martin, both came from Brazil (Not sure on that one) and both joined at the same time, eh?

[Det_Nosnip]

^^ :lol: Yeah. I believe that they knew eachother, Mikael met one and that one recommended the other. It's very Quentin Tarantino-esque, though. :lol:

Those guys work together brilliantly, though...Lopez is one of my favorite drummers right now.

[Cardboard Headgear]

Yeah, Lopez joined up and then brought Mendez with him. I think it's cool how they're both trilingual too (Spanish, Swedish, and English). They're from Uraguay btw, not Brazil.

[4130]

Man, this thread has to reach 1000, so bumpity bump.

I'm trying to find Orchind, its the only album I need to complete my Opeth collection. What are the extra's on the re-issue, because it is $10 more expencive than the original so I can't decide. But you get that sexy round, silver case with the re-issue.

[Grey Incision]

yep, so there is no contest really is there

[Flynn]

Man, this thread has to reach 1000, so bumpity bump.

I'm trying to find Orchind, its the only album I need to complete my Opeth collection. What are the extra's on the re-issue, because it is $10 more expencive than the original so I can't decide. But you get that sexy round, silver case with the re-issue.



Orchid is a great one. The recording quality isn't the greatest, but for some reason, I like it that way. I knew when I first listened to "In Mist She Was Standing" That Opeth was my new juice :thumb:
















"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process
that he does not become a monster. And when you look long
into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you"


-Frederick Wilhelm Nietzche-

[Mr. Ron]

Orchid is a great one. The recording quality isn't the greatest, but for some reason, I like it that way. I knew when I first listened to "In Mist She Was Standing" That Opeth was my new juice :thumb:


















"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process
that he does not become a monster. And when you look long
into the abys, the abyss also looks into you"



-Frederick Wilhelm Nietzche-


Mmmmm, good ol' Nietzche. :thumb:



How would you guys describe Mikael's growling technique? I have herd of it referred to as "whisper growling".

???

[Lateralias]

[/SIZE]


Mmmmm, good ol' Nietzche. :thumb:



How would you guys describe Mikael's growling technique? I have herd of it referred to as "whisper growling".

???

Whisper growling? Nah.. it's pretty strong if you ask me, not "whisper-ish"...
Though I've noticed as the albums have gone by, Mikael's growl has gotten stronger.. Deliverance has some great growling on it. I think he's got a great growl that doesn't make the music to heavy but at the same time keeps your attention only to lead you into a verse of Mikael's soft vocals, which are some of the best vocals I've ever heard... The song "Deliverance" does this for example... Mikael has a great talent :thumb:

[bahamut_0]

Deliverance deffinetly has the best drums, the outro is :thumb:

**** straight, I love the outro ^^

[Kage]

^That's the song/part that got me hooked

[Flynn]

[/SIZE]


Mmmmm, good ol' Nietzche. :thumb:



How would you guys describe Mikael's growling technique? I have herd of it referred to as "whisper growling".

???


Yes I agree, I can sing along with him as long as I am whispering hehe, But his voice has bass to it, I don't know how he sings like he does. It's very Unique though :cool:








The cold season drifts over the land.
They huddle in the brown corners. Some would settle for less.
The castles were all empty, asleep. Long awaiting their king.
Beckoning round the bend.
Amidst the forest one would hear that I had been there.
Draped within a fate I could not change, and always welcoming Winter´s Epilouge. -Karma-

[Iron Man]

I just recieved Deliverance as an early Christmas present, which leaves only MAYH left to get :thumb:

[Flynn]

I just recieved Deliverance as an early Christmas present, which leaves only MAYH left to get :thumb:



If you have yet to hear any tracks from My Arms, Your Hearse, I recomend you listen to all tracks on order with headphones and the booklet out. :thumb: Thats what I did and what a KICK *** experience!

[Iron Man]

If you have yet to hear any tracks from My Arms, Your Hearse, I recomend you listen to all tracks on order with headphones and the booklet out. :thumb: Thats what I did and what a KICK *** experience!

I plan to get it as soon as I can find it. Then I will have all 7 albums, the DVD, AND a shirt! :p

[Mr. Ron]

What would you guys think of Opeth if they ever were to grace the cover of Rolling stone? Would you think of them any differently?



Btw, I know this will never happen. :upset:

[Lateralias]

What would you guys think of Opeth if they ever were to grace the cover of Rolling stone? Would you think of them any differently?



Btw, I know this will never happen. :upset:

Well, Opeth are for the music, not the publicity.. to quote Mikael "If music was a woman, I'd be desperate to **** her!" hehe... if they were, I'd be suprised they got that popular, but kinda feel bad cause I wouldn't know if the band just wanted fame or what.. I guess they would go down on my scale but I'd definitely still listen to them...

[Iron Man]

No difference, these guys already have my utmost respect.

[Mr. Ron]

Well, Opeth are for the music, not the publicity.. to quote Mikael "If music was a woman, I'd be desperate to **** her!" hehe... if they were, I'd be suprised they got that popular, but kinda feel bad cause I wouldn't know if the band just wanted fame or what.. I guess they would go down on my scale but I'd definitely still listen to them...

I think Opeth is one of those bands who would give the big "**** off" to rollingstones. They, as you said, are about the music not the publicity.

[Lateralias]

I think Opeth is one of those bands who would give the big "**** off" to rollingstones. They, as you said, are about the music not the publicity.

Right on man! What I abosolutely love about Opeth...

Opeth forever...

[Mr. Ron]

Is there any new news about Opeth's new record????

[Iron Man]

All I know is that it's supposed to come out late-spring 2005.

[Mr. Ron]

All I know is that it's supposed to come out late-spring 2005.
Gah.....I need my Opeth fix. They are like crack to me. lol

I picked up MAYH today, which completes the set, it is simpley amazing.

[Lateralias]

Gah.....I need my Opeth fix. They are like crack to me. lol

I picked up MAYH today, which completes the set, it is simpley amazing.

Awesome man, yeah MAYH is a great album, of course they are all great... I finished my collection last week after getting Orchid and Morningrise, I worked my way backwards. Both albums are awesome though, vocals are different but they grow on you pretty fast. :)

[Iron Man]

What album is your favorite out of the 7? (To Lateralias and amostbitterseason)

[Mr. Ron]

What album is your favorite out of the 7? (To Lateralias and amostbitterseason)
Well it's a throw up right now between MR and MAYH. BWP is also very good. I would say MR.

[Lateralias]

What album is your favorite out of the 7? (To Lateralias and amostbitterseason)

A tie between Still Life and the classic BWP... but Still Life wins by a hair. I love every song on there, and there all so fun to play on guitar, of course alot of Opeth's songs are.

[Mr. Ron]

My friend is also a diehard Opeth fan, but he says ****ation was a huge mistake. Personally, I love ****ation. I just don't get why he doesn't like it. Maybe it's too mellow for him???

[Iron Man]

My friend is also a diehard Opeth fan, but he says ****ation was a huge mistake. Personally, I love ****ation. I just don't get why he doesn't like it. Maybe it's too mellow for him???

I don't think it was a mistake, but personally I think the soft parts are more effective when contrasted with the heavy parts. His clean voice is so **** good though, so I can't dislike this.

[Gibbers3095]

My friend is also a diehard Opeth fan, but he says ****ation was a huge mistake. Personally, I love ****ation. I just don't get why he doesn't like it. Maybe it's too mellow for him???

There are a lot of people on the Opeth forums that think that way, but most of them are usually assholes who listen to music because its heavy, not because its well-made or good.

[Mr. Ron]

There are a lot of people on the Opeth forums that think that way, but most of them are usually assholes who listen to music because its heavy, not because its well-made or good.
Exactly. Some Opeth "fans" only like the heavy parts, which are extreemly good, but you have to look past the heavyness to the technicality and theory of the songs.

[Gibbers3095]

Exactly. Some Opeth "fans" only like the heavy parts, which are extreemly good, but you have to look past the heavyness to the technicality and theory of the songs.

Exactly. I love Opeth because of the lyric quality and the beauty of the music, even if its really heavy, it is all very well done, and perfectly atmospheric.

[Iron Man]

Exactly. I love Opeth because of the lyric quality and the beauty of the music, even if its really heavy, it is all very well done, and perfectly atmospheric.

And I feel that the Heavy/Light contrast futher improves the music.

Think about it, where would you more appreciate water? Near a lake or in the desert? Having light parts in the middle of a heavy song makes you appreciate those light parts oh-so much more. Sorry for the ****ty analogy, but I think it serves it's purpose.

[Gibbers3095]

And I feel that the Heavy/Light contrast futher improves the music.

Think about it, where would you more appreciate water? Near a lake or in the desert? Having light parts in the middle of a heavy song makes you appreciate those light parts oh-so much more. Sorry for the ****ty analogy, but I think it serves it's purpose.

No, the analogy works well, and I understand what you mean and agree completely man, but I just think that it sucks that people don't respect the ****ation work as much, just because it isn't as heavy. I'll agree that it definitely isn't my favorite album by them, but it is still an amazing piece of work.

[Iron Man]

No, the analogy works well, and I understand what you mean and agree completely man, but I just think that it sucks that people don't respect the ****ation work as much, just because it isn't as heavy. I'll agree that it definitely isn't my favorite album by them, but it is still an amazing piece of work.

Yeah, I love Hope Leaves and To Rid the Disease. Beautiful stuff. I can't get enough of Opeth's clean tone, especially on this album. I wish I could get my guitar to sound like that.

[Lateralias]

I absolutely loved Damnation... Soft and heavy parts. Opeth said it was a last minute experimental type thing (they only rehearsed once before they recorded it), but it only proves that Opeth know what they're doing when experimenting. Some good songs off that album.. Windowpane, Closure, To Rid The Disease, and Ending Credits, actually, they whole album is great, shows Opeth have a "just" soft mellow side too.

[Gibbers3095]

I don't know if this has been dicussed yet, I'm sure it has, but is anyone else excited for the next album being another concept?

[Lateralias]

I don't know if this has been dicussed yet, I'm sure it has, but is anyone else excited for the next album being another concept?

Where'd you hear it was going to be a concept album?

[Gibbers3095]

Where'd you hear it was going to be a concept album?

I've heard it mentioned in the Opeth forums, and I read a few places that it was supposed to be. Also, Mike personally updates on their forums, so if you look for a thread about it, I'm sure you'll find him saying something about it.

[Lateralias]

I've heard it mentioned in the Opeth forums, and I read a few places that it was supposed to be. Also, Mike personally updates on their forums, so if you look for a thread about it, I'm sure you'll find him saying something about it.

Ah figures, I haven't been to that forum in awhile... alrighty, I'll check it out, thanks for the info :)

[Gibbers3095]

Ah figures, I haven't been to that forum in awhile... alrighty, I'll check it out, thanks for the info :)

No problem, happy to help another Opeth fan out anytime.

[Mr. Ron]

I don't know if this has been dicussed yet, I'm sure it has, but is anyone else excited for the next album being another concept?
That would be truely intersting to see what they come up with.

[Lateralias]

That would be truely intersting to see what they come up with.

I hope they make it more "brutal" and focused than Deliverance (and obviously ****ation :p ), not saying Deliverance wasn't great, cause it was fantastic... but they're not rushing this time, so we should be in for a suprise around Spring next year :)

[Gibbers3095]

From what I've heard, the concept is supposed to be somehow about the occult, which will be very cool.

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted By Gibbers3095
I don't know if this has been dicussed yet, I'm sure it has, but is anyone else excited for the next album being another concept?
The concepts before were fantastic, so this should continue the fantastic concepts. I reckon they should make MAYH or SL into a book or a movie. That would be great.

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted By Iron Man
What album is your favorite out of the 7? (To Lateralias and amostbitterseason)

Morningrise and Blackwater Park are my favourites, i would love to see Black Rose Immortal played live, apparently they vowed never to play it live and also that they hate all of Morningrise. I think thats dissapointing cos Black Rose Immortal live would go off :thumb:

[Cardboard Headgear]

They don't hate all of Morningrise, Mike simply stated that he doesn't like some of the twin-guitar harmony style riffs anymore becuase that's what every band in Sweden was doing at the time. He even says he still thinks it's a great record though.

[opeth_oasis]

hmm fair enough got me there :thumb:

[Flynn]

What would you guys think of Opeth if they ever were to grace the cover of Rolling stone? Would you think of them any differently?



Btw, I know this will never happen. :upset:


I don't care if that happens cause I showed all my friends Opeth and they can then think of me when they see the cover. :thumb:






"Although I may not agree with what you say,
I defend to the death your right to say it"

-Peter Griffin-

[Jesus Macaroni]

Which Opeth song is your favorite `?

Mine is Face of Melinda...it has all the aspects of Opeth in one song...I think

BTW : Thank you Flynn for starting this thread

[Cardboard Headgear]

"Although I may not agree with what you say,
I defend to the death your right to say it"
-Peter Griffin-
Just so you know, that's a quote from Voltaire, not a Family Guy episode.

[Grey Incision]

Just so you know, that's a quote from Voltaire, not a Family Guy episode.

This guy knows everything, and i'm not joking, rep++ for you

[4130]

^^^

Actually I dunno where it is from originally but that quote is from Family Guy, I think it is the episode where Peter borrows 50 grand from the bank and has some otehr people move into his house.

[Cocaine]

I think he means it's originally by voltaire, and was used within a family guy episode.

[Kafkastolemyslippers]

They don't hate all of Morningrise, Mike simply stated that he doesn't like some of the twin-guitar harmony style riffs anymore becuase that's what every band in Sweden was doing at the time. He even says he still thinks it's a great record though.

Morningrise is my favorite record. I think it is actually the most unique sounding of any of them.

[Lateralias]

Which Opeth song is your favorite `?

Mine is Face of Melinda...it has all the aspects of Opeth in one song...I think

BTW : Thank you Flynn for starting this thread

I agree with you, even though it's not my favorite, of course I couldn't pick a favorite Opeth song. They're all stuck in my head and easy to fall in love with, so thats a tough choice, but nonetheless Face of Melinda is a great song, fun to play too. :thumb:

Random fact: Mikael's daughter is named Melinda :)

[thefourdegreesofhumanity]

Have any of you listened to Opeth's cover of 'Remember Tommorow' by Iron Maiden?? It's amazing.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I just bought MY ARMS, YOUR HEARSE, and BLACKWATER PARK.

[slaytalica25]

i just burned deliverence of my step bro but i havent got to listen to it yet. i plan on buying morningrise sometime soon.

[Cardboard Headgear]

Have any of you listened to Opeth's cover of 'Remember Tommorow' by Iron Maiden?? It's amazing.
Mikael hits that 'sky' note better than Dianno imo.

[James Van Halen]

Is Opeth religious? I've heard that, and i've never found out what religion they are.

[Grey Incision]

Have any of you listened to Opeth's cover of 'Remember Tommorow' by Iron Maiden?? It's amazing.


I have never ever disrespected maiden in any way, my opinion is that NOBODY can do a maiden song better then maiden..............................but opeth aren't nobody are they :cool: IMO, their version is better than maiden's, just.

[G_Mac07]

I have never ever disrespected maiden in any way, my opinion is that NOBODY can do a maiden song better then maiden..............................but opeth aren't nobody are they :cool: IMO, their version is better than maiden's, just.

/agrees. That cover is awesome:thumb:

[Grey Incision]

/agrees. That cover is awesome:thumb:

another aussie in the opeth thread, rawk forth brother (sounds like a 1970's black priest)

[thefourdegreesofhumanity]

Mikael hits that 'sky' note better than Dianno imo.

I cry everytime I hear him say 'sky'.

[Lateralias]

Yeah, even though I love Maiden... Opeth did do the song better with their cover.. but after all I love Opeth too.

[Lateralias]

Is Opeth religious? I've heard that, and i've never found out what religion they are.

Nope, but neith are the occultic or satanic, or anything of the such.. I've heard Mikael say that Opeth have some slight anti-Christian themes in a few songs.. but I have yet to notice any in the lyrics.. maybe it's on some older material. But, nope, no religion on their hands.

[Kafkastolemyslippers]

Nope, but neith are the occultic or satanic, or anything of the such.. I've heard Mikael say that Opeth have some slight anti-Christian themes in a few songs.. but I have yet to notice any in the lyrics.. maybe it's on some older material. But, nope, no religion on their hands.

I think the lyrics on Orchid have a bit of that. Can't remember right now. And possibly Deliverance.

[Lateralias]

I think the lyrics on Orchid have a bit of that. Can't remember right now. And possibly Deliverance.

I thought MAYH couldve had some considering the concept was about a guy dying and being a ghost. I don't know, I'll do another listen-to-album-and-read-along type thing soon, maybe I'll find something.

[Kafkastolemyslippers]

Yeah I actually just looked over the lyrics for Orchid and I can't find anything. Except maybe The Apostle in Triumph.

[Kafkastolemyslippers]

Master's Apprentice from Deliverance could be religiously themed, but the lyrics are fairly oblique.

[Cardboard Headgear]

I've heard Mikael say that Opeth have some slight anti-Christian themes in a few songs..
Well look at Still Life; Christianity ruins and eventually ends the main character's life.

[all_mighty_guitar_player_666]

hey cardboard great avatar, chuck was a god.

[Mr. Ron]

From what I've heard, the concept is supposed to be somehow about the occult, which will be very cool.
Yeah about the occult, Opeth seems to have a lot of occult and or heathenistic elements in their lyrics. Anybody else notice?

BTW, does anybody know any good Opeth forums?

[Believer]

One of my all-time favorite bands! \m/

Cant wait for their new cd to come out... whenever that time may be

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Morningrise is my favorite record. I think it is actually the most unique sounding of any of them.


Ill Agree Morningrise is a good solid album but its not the epic everybody sets it out to be. One thing that puts me off is the sound quality, and then the unique ''sound'' which they had back then. IMO , Opeth started their sound with MAYH, which to date remains their finest work . it contains everything a Opeth album needs which is light and heavy songs, but more than that, it maintains just the right balance within songs. Thus I would have to say that MAYH is the best album in this light.

However, Not every Opeth fan is alike. Some like more heavy songs while others choose more soft-like songs. For more heavy you would go for Deliverance, while more soft would probebly go for Still Life. It just depends, But IMO MAYH (Abbreveation(sp?) Nightmare! :confused: ) contains just the right elements. :thumb:

[Grey Incision]

Ill Agree Morningrise is a good solid album but its not the epic everybody sets it out to be. One thing that puts me off is the sound quality, and then the unique ''sound'' which they had back then. IMO , Opeth started their sound with MAYH, which to date remains their finest work . it contains everything a Opeth album needs which is light and heavy songs, but more than that, it maintains just the right balance within songs. Thus I would have to say that MAYH is the best album in this light.

However, Not every Opeth fan is alike. Some like more heavy songs while others choose more soft-like songs. For more heavy you would go for Deliverance, while more soft would probebly go for Still Life. It just depends, But IMO MAYH (Abbreveation(sp?) Nightmare! :confused: ) contains just the right elements. :thumb:

champ, another MAYH fan, for me it is a tie for first with Still Life, They are both amazing, and i have converted many a rock fan with demon of the fall :)

rep++ to you

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Thanx Grey. :thumb:

But I think its in the way they play the full chord in distortion that gives it that lush, warm, melodic sound that diverenciates it from other Opeth albums.(MAYH) ex. April Ethereal, When. In this way, the songs can sound very heavy, but maintain a sort of soft melodic tune. (IMO)

Yes Demon is a killer (''run away!''), But i will have to go with ''When'' for my fav song. It contains everything a perfect Opeth song needs.(''Demise!'') :p

[Grey Incision]

that is true there. I love playing april ethereal, it's just such a cool song to play, because of the chords, i've also tried to use this sort of thing when i create music, (to no avail, but i try.) Demon isn't my favourite on the cd, When is :thumb:, april ethereal is my second, and demon third. Demon of the fall is just a familiar track with everyone, so i use that a lot when i talk about opeth.

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Another song which is clearly a stand-out must be Wreath. I know its long and a rough ride, but the end is so worth it. A killer solo and some contrasting moods set against each other.

A must listen for everybody!

[Grey Incision]

hahaha, yeah, Wreath stands out, as does Leper Affinity (my overall favourite). It's just an amazing song, Akerfeldt's voice holds much more emotion in this song than others ( sounds impossible, but it does) and the guitarwork isn't of Yngwie or Vai pace, but amazingly written nonetheless,

*listens*

btw, you are the next Steerpike, i swear :p such detailed and well thought-out responses

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Ha, thanx. I must say I have been a keen student of Steerpike since my days in the Initiation process to the Clan of Truth. Troll-Hunting will stay with me forever! ;-)

But yeah, Leper Affinity was my first favourite. But I feel that Blackwater Park has sounds very different to all the other Opeth albums. It has been said to be the most popular cd, but after hearing all the others, I have to say that it was a epitone in their career, sort of like MAYH. Sort of like the dawning of a new age in the world of Opeth. But MAYH remains my all time fav!

and yeah, the solo's aren't incredibly fast, but after watching the DVD, you get a much clearer understanding of the detail involved in the solo's. You then realize that its not about speed, but like always, about the atmosphere.

[Grey Incision]

i've always liked Blackwater park, but it's never been my favourite cd. Your right, it does have a different sound to all the others. The only way i can describe it, every time i hear it, the album is not as emotional. It doesn't have as much feeling for me, it seems kind of like an album that was more towards the conventions as far as metal goes. It's difficult to describe, and that's the best i can do:(

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Although people discribe Deliverance as the heaviest, I might go and say that Blackwater Park is in fact the heaviest.

The reason that you struggle to get emotions out of the alum is because it only contains single emotion songs. Yes there are in between acoustic sections, but it doesn't lighten the mood or anything. Its still morose.

Opinions?

[Grey Incision]

Although people discribe Deliverance as the heaviest, I might go and say that Blackwater Park is in fact the heaviest.

The reason that you struggle to get emotions out of the alum is because it only contains single emotion songs. Yes there are in between acoustic sections, but it doesn't lighten the mood or anything. Its still morose.

Opinions?
that's exactly what i was trying to say, except i can't word something like that :p. I would actually say MAYH is the heaviest, with April ethereal, Demon of the fall and Karma, all very heavy songs

[The Flabbit Rides High]

Yeah, I agree they are heavy songs, but in a way, one can still find some other form of emotion through those songs. ex. the demise part in when, the run away part in demon etc.

Wheres in BWP, songs like BWP and The Funeral Portrait only bring forth agression. Even The leper affinity.

ps gatta go . flying back to SA now and will only be back tomorrow. cheers good talking.

[Lateralias]

MAYH might not be the most easily recongnized Opeth album, but it was an important one in their career. I think MAYH turned and put Opeth on the track of making such great albums like Still Life (my absolute favorite)and Blackwater Park, which makes MAYH such a great album, it's got all the great elements of progression and "Opethiness" in it, and from that album, the band just got better at what they did... I'm not saying MAYH is horrible, quite the contrary. With songs like April Ethereal, When, and Demon of the Fall.... I also really like Madrigal and The Amen Corner, in fact The Amen Corner is probably my favorite song off the album, following with April Ethereal and Demon of the Fall. Another worthy mention is the last song, "Epilogue". Alot and alot of emotion coming from Mikael's guitar in that song. Overall amazing album.... and it needs to be noticed more :thumb:

[all_mighty_guitar_player_666]

MAYH might not be the most easily recongnized Opeth album, but it was an important one in their career. I think MAYH turned and put Opeth on the track of making such great albums like Still Life (my absolute favorite)and Blackwater Park, which makes MAYH such a great album, it's got all the great elements of progression and "Opethiness" in it, and from that album, the band just got better at what they did... I'm not saying MAYH is horrible, quite the contrary. With songs like April Ethereal, When, and Demon of the Fall.... I also really like Madrigal and The Amen Corner, in fact The Amen Corner is probably my favorite song off the album, following with April Ethereal and Demon of the Fall. Another worthy mention is the last song, "Epilogue". Alot and alot of emotion coming from Mikael's guitar in that song. Overall amazing album.... and it needs to be noticed more :thumb:

exactly :thumb: i think they get better with every album with the exception of ****ation, its a awesome album don't get me wrong but i think the production wasn't to good, i hate the way Ending Credits starts out and it just doesn't have the right feeling overall

[i am the robots]

Ending Credits kinda starts out weird, and gets very reppetative, but it's freaking awesome..... and I totally agree with teh My Arms Your Herse statement, it is very very good, seriously, when I heard April Earthreal for the first time, I didn't know what to think.

[Lateralias]

I thought Ending Credits was pretty cool, and I loved Damnation, although it was just experimentation, it proves to me that Opeth can experiment very well...

[all_mighty_guitar_player_666]

ya the song rules but the way it fades in is what i hate, it is a awesome record though

[Bertovo]

mms://straum.nrk.no/Musikk/2003-06-16/Opeth_300k.wmv

Could anyone tell me the setlist of this?

[Cardboard Headgear]

I've got 56k, so Godhead's Lament is as far as I get. :upset:


EDIT: I'll download it tonight and have an answer tomorrow, if someone doesnt beat me to it.

[Hardest_Rocker]

i dont care much for opeth but Damnation is an awesome album. Windowpane is one of my favorite songs. For that album I respect Opeth much.

[Grey Incision]

hmm, give Opeth another chance, try the Still Life album, i think it will change you. It does take time to get used to Mikael's growls. If your not a fan of Death metal, Mikael's growls are the only ones you should be able to take, they really do grow on you, just give it a chance :thumb: